Episode 353: Kayla from Australia Returns!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The following presentation is Del Marvis Studio's production. You're listening
to the fact Hunter Radio Network. Here is your host,
George Hobbs.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time
for a very special presentation of the fact Hunter podcast
as we record on this Wednesday, June the eighteenth, twenty
twenty five. As promised, I told you we had a
special guest for today. And I know for the longtime
listeners who have been emailing often asking about Kayla, well,

(00:37):
we've located her and I know it's been a couple
of years. She's been busy with her family. But it's
so good to have you back. Kayla, welcome back to
the podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Thanks for having me. George, I love being here.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Miss missed it.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
What have you been up to for the last couple
of years besides raising a big family?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, listen, not just just raising the family.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
It takes a lot. It takes a lot of focus
and like a time, it takes a lot of time,
and there's only twenty four hours in a day and
seven days in a week, and it tends to swallow
that up, especially when you've got them home all the time.
You can't hand them off to a school or anything
for eight hours a day. It's all at home. It's
all on me, which is great. I love it and
I wouldn't change it for the world, but it does

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take a lot of time and effort and.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Work, absolutely the two assets, and we never have enough
of us time and money. And really quickly before we
get into the discussion, are you playing into homeschool and
what is the rules in Australia for homeschooling, So it.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Differs state to state, but I already homeschool.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I've homeschooled all the kids, like since they were born
pretty much like learning is an everyday thing.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's not just a not a formal acurity.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
You sit in front of a desk. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh know.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
It's like my nine year old can have full conversations
with any adult he meets about the most interesting stuff.
Like it's great. It's great to watch it because most
kids are just like confined to their screens and they
don't really have any interactions with adults or even like
children and other children. Yeah, and the same ways, like
they're raped by other children rather than just interacting with

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them and playing with them.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, that is something, you know, the communication you have.
That is something that's very important. And we worship with
people locally, and you can see the people who've been
homeschooled who actually interact. They're not staring at their their
cell phones every thirty seconds. And again that's not I
never like to criticize an entire group, an entire generation,

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or things of that nature, but listen, with technology, it
is a double edged sword. We have all this information
at our fingertips. However, even for me, it can become
a distraction when I should be focused on other things.
You know, I get lost into YouTube and all of
a sudden, I'm watching parasailing or something ridiculous. In two
hours have gone by, I wanted.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
You to tell it's just not doom scrolling, right, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's something right saying.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Is it doom scrolling?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah exactly. And that's something I try to warn people,
even our conversations that we'll have today. People shouldn't just
bury their head in the sand and be worried. These
are exciting times. And I've said it a thousand times.
God puts you here in this timeline because he knew
you could handle it. And I truly believe what we're
seeing now is just a fraction of what things to
come in the next one, five or ten years.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Agreed, Well, they did give us the timeline of twenty
twenty and twenty twenty twenty thirty five.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You know, this is extremely exciting times and it's so
good to see how many people are actually like waking
up and not just waking up to like agree with
everyone else. They're actually asking questions and they want to
know for themselves, you know, they want to learn the
things from the ground up rather than just be like,
what's your opinion, Okay, I'm going to adopt that opinion

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as soon as they hear it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, And speaking of doom scrolling and fear porn, at
what level is the mass media in Australia pushing you know,
the Israel Iran World War three agenda over there?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Solid? It's solid, it is so solid.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I can't I can't, you know how Like when you
scroll through YouTube on the main page, it comes up
with like your local news channels and like what they're
releasing and stuff. It's just all Israel Iran. That's all
it is. It's all of it.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
I just.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I don't know. I try not to. I try not
to tune into that because if you feed it, it's
going to like get worse and do the things, and
I don't want that to happen.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
So yeah, sometimes it can be hard to draw what
happened regardless. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Sorry, No, No, you're
you're spot on, because I also try to I want
to be cognizant of what's going on. I don't want
to be blind, deaf and dumb to everything that's going
on around us. But you can't feed the monster. You
can't give into it. And you can't because they want
you to be in fear because as far as a

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government goes, the more you depend on them, the more
empowering that monster becomes.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, and then they make it.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
I actually found a meme that I saved today for
this exact moment, and it was pretty much just around
the same lines, like, they want you to fear these things,
so hang on. Riots are manufactured, chaos. Pandemics are manufactured, chaos.
Wars are manufactured chaos. Geoengineering is manufactured chaos. The world
is ruled by chaos magic, so that you'll beg for order,

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their order. Resist the urge to emotionally react, stay calm,
staying calm is the best defense.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's well said. And I think another thing that people
need to remember is when an event does happen, whether
it's nine to eleven or the next war or a
false flag like you know, say the Boston marathon bombing,
don't react immediately, take your time, look at different resources.
But most importantly, I always like to see, well, who
does this benefit this event? Right, like nine to eleven?

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Who did that benefit? Well, we put boots on the
ground and we were able to protect Israel. And you
know that is the biggest question, is who does it benefit?
And ninety nine times out of one hundred, that fits
right into Akam's razor, right the least, what is it?
The easiest answer is probably the correct one.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, And people just overcomplicate it and then you just
strip it back to the bare minimum and you always
get the truth.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, always, one hundred percent. Last night on the podcast,
we were talking about COVID accountability, and that's something that
when you were back we were doing the roundtables, et cetera,
back during twenty one and twenty two, was something we
talked about a lot, and since then we've had so
many other things, right that they're trying to push another
summer of love. We have protests going on, but it

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just seems that once again we have forgotten about such
a large scale effect that still has ramifications to this day.
Like last night, as I mentioned to you before we
came on the air, that young cheft fifty five, she
passed away and she was showing off her jab from
I think twenty twenty one. But not only that, which
I mean we shouldn't just say just that, because that

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has killed and maimed millions of people, but all the
small businesses that got shut down, all the churches that
had to shut down, Pastor Pulaski up in Canada getting arrested,
and all those things. Is it too late for any
account And again, as Christians were told to forgive, but
accountability is very much biblical and that is something that

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we should have. And do you think it's too late?
Do you think we've passed that point?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I think everyone is really COVID fatigued. I think it's
a fatigue. It's the word COVID has lost its some
has lost its umph. Now everyone hears it and they
roll their eyes, like everyone you look at the like
they've had another massive round of pushing here in Australia
where they like released the ads for getting vaccinated for
the season, and they tried a couple of weeks ago.

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I think it was about two and a half weeks ago.
They tried to push oh there's a new strand of
COVID that they've discovered in China, and every single comment
there was thousands. I think there was like ten thousand
plus comments on the Facebook post, and every single one
of them was like, what are you talking about? Just
stop it. Just everyone just needs to go and live

(08:33):
their life and not worry about this stupid virus anymore
and do the things. But like you said, the accountability
is a different level of accountability to the people that
shut the world down the way they did that. I
genuinely believe that needs to happen, but I don't think
it will happen in the way we think it will.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Sure? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Like I would love to.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I would love to match much people like Anthony actually
to the gallows, you know what I mean, and publicly
do what we needed to to show them that we
will not stand for that. As a human race, we
won't stand for it. But regardless of creed or color
or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's not okay to mass murder people. People get the
death penalty for way less.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
We've had so here in my circles of like friends
and acquaintances, we've had three people between the ages of
twenty four and thirty die from cancer that was turbo cancer.
And these are the same people that rejected everything that
I was telling them at that point in time. Don't
get shabbed, don't get jabbed, don't do it, don't do it.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Just wait, just wait. If you really really think you
need it, then get it later on.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Just don't do it now. Even if you'd ever ever,
don't do it ever was my biggest thing. But if
you had to do anything, just delay it and see
what happens. And we're talking like twenty four years old
dying of like advanced can in your gut that's spread
to your brain and your spinal cord, dying like an

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eighty year old person that's lived their.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Life, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
They've left kids behind, they've left and it's it's absolutely
devastating on multi generational levels. And maybe that's what they're
trying to do, because like, if you think about it,
if you like, if did you grow up with your grandparents?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, So like I know plenty of my friends that
don't have their grandparents and I'm only thirty five, you
know what I mean? Like, how is that like?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
And they haven't had them since they were young.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I haven't had my grandparents since I was seven.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
So it's one of those things, right, like they take
away those things so that we don't get insight into
previous times.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
That is such? You know, I've never thought of it
that way. You know, for me, I always looked at it,
and it's silly because when you have all the money,
who needs the money? But I did always look at
it as a financial thing. Why would you know, the
powers that be want older people who are collecting Social
Security that are you know, higher insurance claims because they're

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ill more and they go to the hospital more. I
always looked at it that way, but I never thought
of looking at as simple a transfer of knowledge from
that generation. And I wish so much now that we're
sitting here talking about it, that all of these questions
that we've had, and you know, because my grandfather was

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born in nineteen seventeen, grandmam nineteen twenty one. And to
ask them, you know, what were you taught in school
about this, this or that? And I bet you it
would be completely different than what we learned when we
were in school, one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
And to have them alive, you'd be able to relay
that information to them. They would be interacting with your children.
They'd be like, what the heck is he talking about?
Why are they teaching them this?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
And sort of bring everyone's attention onto what's not necessarily
the same or is very very wrong with what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
That. You know, one of the questions we ask all
the time is are we really in the timeline that
they say we're in? And one of the big YouTube
channels that has taken off is my lunch Break and
he does deep dives into archaeology and you know, saying
that this doesn't add up. Are we truly in this timeline?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah? I'm I'm so. There's a there's an author that
I've actually been reading his books about like Tartaria and
mud flood and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
His name is Guy Anderson.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I highly highly recommend him You can find him anywhere
on Facebook, and he sells his books directly. He just
released a new one about the Cabbage Patch Kids. Have
you heard about that theory?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, I've heard about it, but I don't recall the
entire story about it. Could you fill me in.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I haven't actually finished reading the book. I'm only a
couple of chapters in. It got here yesterday, and I
can't put it down whenever I've got a spam in it.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
It is in my hands. But excuse me.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
He's got so pretty much like you know, the world fairs. Yes, yeah,
so that the theory, well, the theory, well, the proof
that he's found is is that those world fairs were
advertising like mass amounts of babies and like cloning humans
and putting them pretty much on for show, or adopting

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them out to repopulate the world, or taking them from
the parents that had died during the mud floods and
then selling them on to the people that had survived
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's really interesting.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I'm looking at his book now, Tesla and the Cabbage
Patch Kids, exploring the Lost Empire of Tartaria in the
reset of seventeen seventy six. Now that's the second or
third person who pointed to that date, because many of
the people who I'm gonna put this link in the
show notes folks, so in case you're interested in purchasing
the book, you can check it out. But most of

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the people who talk about the reset believe it was
some time in the eighteen hundreds. But I wrote an article,
I guess two months ago on exposing our founding fathers,
and even people in the truth community hold up George
Washington and these people Ben Franklin on this high pedestal
and how they saved America. And then the next night

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they'll do a podcast on Freemasons. How evil they.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Are, all of that free even the guy of Sam Houston,
the guy who founded the city of Houston at Texas.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
A big family, he was, they're all Freemasons, and they
I'm getting more and more convinced that obviously this country
was not founded under you know, the guys of saying
King George the Third, we will not pay your taxes.
It was taking a bunch of loose canons, because if

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you go back and look and that this is kind
of separate from the mud flood and resets. But if
you believe the history, all of the thirteen colonies here
in the States. They did not want a federal government.
They wanted to stay separate entities. And I think you
could consider the the invasion of England kind of a
false flag. And they could even write because who ran

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all the printing presses in the United States, Ben Franklin.
So if all these people who are living on farms
reading stories, they just believe what they're told, there could
have been not even hardly any any war. They could
just be reading it and assuming that both I guess
there was a war and we won and we're free now.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, And the way that technology didn't exist at that
point the same way we have it now either, So
it wasn't easy to get a message across the world,
or if it was, it not to see it wasn't
just wasn't easy. But then if you look at the
old technology and stuff. I've always had this, I've always
had this like fleeting thought, like when we find like
stone tablets and stuff. And I know this is going

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to sound a little bit out there, but hear me out.
When we find like stone.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Tablets that are literally clay tablets and.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Stuff, what happens if that did, Like, because do you
know this area behind the mud flood, like how.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
It works, Well, I've heard different versions.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
So well, not not necessarily like what it is, but
how it happened, so like, like what actually happened. It
was like I can't remember, I can't remember exactly the
term that's used for it, but it pretty much is
just like liquefied hot mud pretty much, and it like
there's something happened in the atmosphere and it just like
wiped out everything that it touched pretty much. But the

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theory is, right, is if we all right now, if
that happened to us all right now, right now as
we speak, I'm sitting in front of my computer.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
I've got the web cam on.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
If that happened, how would the people that dug us
up in a thousand years or even two hundred or
three hundred years, how would they know what they were
looking at? They think it was a tablet, They would
think it was a stone tablet because it was stone.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Right, absolutely precisely. And that's what the guy from my
lunch break talks about. Is when you see the word
founded in seventeen eighty four, it doesn't mean it was
established and built in seventeen eighty four. It means they
found it and dug it up in seventeen eighty four.
I'm using that as an example.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's exactly right. And then they redress
it and that make a try and make a pig
look like a lady pretty much, and it sells it
to people because they were people really genuinely just want
to be free to do to live their lives, you
know what I mean. We want to be able to
build a house wherever we want and live off the

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land and be with our families and not have to
work till we die to pay other people's taxes, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Like, yeah, I don't know, I do know it. That's
the fact.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
So in your mind, looking back at this event, do
you think this is something? Because we know that the
powers that be they can create events or be when
something happens that is actually organic, they can hijack it
and use it to their advantage, So do you think
it was either one of them? And then see it

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is can we point to anything biblical that relates to
this type of event?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
So I think both of the first points A and
B are definitely true because they will they literally will
use anything to get to get what they want through
order out of chaos, you know what I mean. That's
that's the way they work. It's they will use whatever
they need to the what is it called the Hegelian
dialect yep, you know what I mean. Whether or not
it's created, they've already got a solution for whatever the

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problem is, and it always leads back to their best
like their self interests, you know what I mean, like
what they want out of the world. And as for
the Bible references, I think I think there's warnings all
through the Bible about these things. I just don't know
if we know how to interpret those warnings because we

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haven't experienced those things. And when we finally experience those things,
it's kind of like everyone going, oh, Book of Revelation.
It's because those things are happening now, so it's easy
to recognize it. Whereas like if you read something from this,
say you say, the seventeen hundreds or something, if you
were if you were living in that time, I'm sure
that you could read the Bible and relate that back

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to the same thing that it's talking about somewhere in
the Bible, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, By the way, I put this in the cart
it's really a very highly rated book. And I put
the link on Amazon. You get it in two days,
the author says, mister Guy. Peter Anderson says that it
was a combination of mud floods, fire, earthquakes, and a
good portion of those in Europe who were left were

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killed off by the Napoleonic Wars, which were after seventeen
seventy six. I think they ended around eighteen oh five. So,
like you said, the children were taken and distributed to
every major town in city, not just to be used
as labor, but to repopulate. Yeah, And he also.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Liked because there's he's found pictures of like these like
mile and a half long trains just full of children,
not adults, just like children part of it. And I
don't know if I think they're actually like drawings and stuff,
but like because that was right at the turn when
they started getting photographs, right, and he's got like there's
photographs of entire massive main cities, like big cities that

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are completely empty. When would that ever happen? It wouldn't,
especially when you didn't have photo editing tools and stuff
like that. Like these are like cameras that have like
the big flash bang in the gas off put and
you know what I mean, Like it's nothing like what
we know now.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
So according to the author, he said that there were
originally places called centers of healing which drew energy from
the ether, which is something Tesla talked about, and they
eventually became cathedrals and churches to hide the fact that
these buildings had a technology that harnessed energy from the ether.
And we know these type of things can be used

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a for energy and b for healing remedies.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, hands down, And I genuinely think that that's the case,
and in because it's one of the ways that they
keep us under under wrap is literally by by making
it charging us for basics that we should have access
to for free. And I think there is there's actually
there's actually a couple I can't remember them off the
top of my head, but if I remember them and

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I'll find them after the show because my Bible's in
my bedroom. But there's actually a couple of references to
those types of things, like where there's like free energy
and stuff available, like that God made everything so that
we had those things. It's like medicine, right like the
Rockefellers took over the petroleum industry and then made all
these different medicines. But we've got all the medicine that

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we need, and their teach us to kill them with
pesticides and stuff like dandelions. Yep, Like on a very
basic level, you know what I mean, if you had
a yard full of dandelions, you could be one of
the healthiest people you'd ever meet, whether it was anti
cancer or ex mile or what breathing issues like everything.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, that's what I was taught is that's what my
dad taught me growing up. That was part of my
summer chores. I had to go out and pull the dandelions,
and then he would go out, unfortunately and sprang with roundup.
So we were actually pulling medicine out of the ground,
throwing them away, and then you know, spreading the gress
that I walked on barefoot a lot of times with

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you know this cancer causing you know, I laugh, But
that's out of just just just goes to show how
evil this world is.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Well, and I don't think the world itself is evil.
I think that the people that implement these things I have.
So this is where like the timeline comes into it
as well, like with ages and stuff.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Right, like these.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
People have such a long term goal that it made.
That's where it turns spiritual for me in a way,
because there's not there's no one that outlast these plans
the way that they're implemented and have been implemented throughout time,
do you know what I mean? That's where it comes
back to like like satan and like the everlasting side

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of that, right, the spiritual side of that, because spirit
like being in the spiritual realm, it's more everlasting that
there's no like body to keep you here for a
certain period of time, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, absolutely, And again I think you're right. People are
inherently we're flawed. But that people, most people, no matter
what country it is, right, they will tell you that
everybody in Iran is evil and wants to kill you.
I can assure you that's not the case. It is
the people who run this world. And in this case,
going back to that book, the author what was his name, Peterson?

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Anderson says that all of these people are descendants of
the Anaki.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, and see that is what I'm talking about. So
those kinds of things one percent absolutely have been and
see everyone thinks Anionaki in like a Gnostic way, But
if you read the Bible, God God repelled two hundred
angels down to the earth during like the whole, the

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whole the Satan flight and Lucifer. Actually, I'm not going
to call him Satan anymore, or the or the devil,
because it is It's Lucifer, and that's that's he's He
sent him and two hundred of the angels back to
Earth to to do whatever he thought they were going
to do. I don't know what did That's where I
get a little bit confused, right, Like what did he

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think was going to happen by sending these these beings
down here? Like they were already like fashionizing with humans? Right,
that's why they got killed? Right, Like why would you
put them right in the middle of us? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Right? Well, that is makes And this is again something
i'd probably ask even though my grandparents weren't, I mean,
there weren't really big Bible readers, but I would like
to ask. I wish I could have asked older people
maybe who were like, did you ever come across the
Book of Enoch, because that's where the Onanaki are prominent.

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In the Book of Enoch and right, and again, was
that intentional to pull some of the apocrypha out of
the Bible because Martin Luther thought it was important enough
to at least include it. Maybe it's not canon, but
it certainly maybe should be considered supplemental reading. I mean,
if you're going to pick up and read up a
love story, why couldn't you read Enoch?

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well, I don't think. I think that so. I've had
a long standing theory that the Bible isn't a whole anyway.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't think through if you listen to the way,
like if you speak other languages, if you talk to
someone that speaks like other languages, there's always something lost
in translation to English. And if you think about what
it says in the Bible, it says that one day
everyone's going to speak one language. Right, And maybe that's
because the older languages have secret like not secrets as such,

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but meanings in their words that are different to.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Ours, well spelling, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, And it can always be misinterpreted. Yeah, And I
think I think that's why. I think that's one of
the biggest problems with like reading older books like reading
translated books especially, there's always something lost. Always you can't
you can't not have something lost in there or added

(26:33):
in very easily because you can misinterpret the word, like
one word has like fifty different meanings in it in
the English language, that's.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Right, And just going from King James version to the
NIV or the ESV, especially when you're talking about Biblical cosmology,
it does take away from the meaning of a lot
of things. And every time you translate something, it does
lose a it loses meaning, and b the person who
is translating is, whether intentional or not biased. That's just

(27:04):
a fact.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Yeah, because we're only human. We're not perfect.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
It's not You're never going to have a perfect interpretation
of anything, especially something like the Bible, because it is,
like we were just talking about that, like how many
you can read one verse to one hundred people and
there'll be fifty different, fifty different opinions on what it means.
You know, So.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
He's back down to that, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah? I agree.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
One other thing that I wanted to mention about this
book before we moved on. This is fact, but I
already put it in my cart that I already ordered
it Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
It's really good. And he's got two other ones as
well that are really really good.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
They're the ones that I've already read.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
This one is the new one.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
But he says again, the Cabbage Patch Babies was a
repopulation program produced thousands of human clones. Yeah, so the cloning.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Networks you can't make, you wonder, doesn't Yeah, well, have
you ever seen the old memes of one is Nicholas
Cage and the picture next to them is a guy
from the eighteen hundreds who looks exactly like them, and
then like Keanu Reeves and like that.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, So it makes sure Nick, how long
have they had this technology?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
And how and that? And that's where it gets confusing,
right because what if it's the cloning technology, But at
the same time, what if it's like, especially those those
kinds of people, I've always felt like they're part of
the elite, so speaking know what I mean, Yeah, I
bet you if you tested their blood and stuff, they'd
all be recist negative and oh is it oh positive

(28:44):
or oh negative? I can't remember which one, but they
would have that really rare blood type, you know what
I mean. And I think that that's back to the
Anionarchi conversation. We were just having the fallen angels breeding
with humans so they get longer lives, and could they
disguise themselves in a way that we wouldn't recognize because
they didn't have technology back then, so there's not a
massive amount of records when it comes to like pictures

(29:07):
and videos and things like that. Who's to say that
they're not the same person and that they've just lived
that long?

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Right? And I try to always you know, when I
come up with the theory, does this align with you know,
biblical teachings and things of that nature. But yeah, the RHO.
You know that these people who are rh negative, which
means they lack a certain factor of protein in their

(29:37):
blood cells, their red blood cells. And then you go
back to things like COVID. Again we've come full circle
and you realize that these wars not on the surface
like Iraq or Vietnam or World War two. We're talking
about the real wars, the spiritual wars, and they're they're
the seed wars, seed wars. So I think, really all

(30:01):
this stuff is to cover up just wanting to exterminate
God's greatest creation, and that is us.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Or at least manipulating it to be different.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Of food.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah. Satan can't create anything, but he can distort it
and pervert it and deceive it, right.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
And then and then claim that he created it, right,
that's right. Yeah, And that's what it all falseome say
that again, I.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Was just saying, that's what it all comes down to,
is we were deceived. And people need to be aware
that simple things such as Netflix and the movies, and
that they're all used to deceive us. And you have
to be very wary of everything on a daily basis.
You have to have your guard up. That's why I
say keep your head on a swivel. Because Satan doesn't

(30:55):
care about the people who are already lost. He already
has them in the bag. He's coming for the people
who were spiritually already saved. He wants them to He
wants to get to the good people to take them
away from God. That's why, you know, you see how
many ministers in your lifetime have fallen, have made mistakes,
have been just you know, disgraced, because Satan knows what

(31:17):
your sweet tooth is and that's how that's what he
uses to tempt you. And and how many people who
used to follow these preachers turn their back to the
to the church because of this, right, all of these things.
It's he he's very smart. You know, the mainstream media
and the movies picture Satan is this guy with a

(31:38):
you know, he's got a big long tail, and he's
got a you know, a little pencil thin mustache and
a and a pitchfork. That's not what the Bible says.
He's one of the most beautiful. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Lu literally means a lot like he's yeah, yeah, to
imagine him ugly and cruel. Whilst he might be cruel
in the end, like after he's already got you in
the bag, he won't present that way to get you
to the point where he wants you. He'll present to
you in a very in a very very very different

(32:13):
way to being scary, because you can't you can attract
you tracked bees with honey.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (32:18):
You do you get more?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
You get more from honey?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
You know you don't?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, yeah, yep, and that kind of that's very interesting.
I'll put all his links in the show notes. Very
highly rated. I'm really looking forward to it. He's I
guess he's from England. And his father apparently was a
master freemason who had the obsession with Egypt.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Talks about that as well, does he.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, so if you go to his Facebook, he actually
if you buy, if you buy his books directly from him,
he'll personally sign them for you too.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Oh okay, I'll try to find that. I'm not on Facebook,
but I'm sure i can find the one. Think I'll put
a note here to find him on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's yeah. If you just look up
his name on Facebook from the name on the book,
he's really easy to find. But yeah, if you message
him directly, he'll send you a signed copy. But he
talks about on his Facebook constantly, Like not constantly, but
he's done a few really really interesting, really good posts
about how he found that out and how it affected

(33:24):
him as like being from a child who didn't understand
what it was now being an adult and learning all
these different things that he's learning and writing about, and
how it affects him now knowing the information that he's got,
and it's really cool to see his evolution in his
own words. He's a very very prolific writer.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
It's interesting. I'm not sure i've come across him before,
and I'm not sure if that's he's over the target,
so you know, tech, big tech knows how to censor him,
or I just missed the boat on this one because
it's very interesting on Amazon. Sure does have a lot
of reviews. But you know, the biggest thing for me
right now that I've been researching, is was there a

(34:07):
reset the truth about you know, I certainly believe at
a minimum that we've been lied to. And you know,
like I mentioned, they took the thirteen colonies, created this,
you know, fight with Britain to create the federal government,
and look what it's become today, just this monster that
controls every like, every facet of our lives. And like

(34:27):
you mentioned earlier, something that I think about often is
how parasitic they've created the world we live in paying
for gas, knowing that people like Stanley Meyer created an
engine that works on water. They killed him and the
Buffalo top shooting, right, that guy, he was a former policeman.
He also made a car with an engine that ran

(34:48):
on water, and he just happened to be killed at
that shooting. At that what did I just say? It
was the top shooting? I guess it was like a
grocery store or something. But I asked this on my podcast,
and I want to ask you. You know, they talk
about the greater good, would we be willing to accept

(35:10):
the fallout in order to bring back all of this
free energy? Because if you really think about it, right,
let's say they went ahead and they green lit the
motor that you can just pour water into and go.
The ramifications of our economy, right, all the oil businesses
collapsing and all of that thing, Well, do you think

(35:30):
that you know, I know this is a hard way
to ask it, but did you understand what I'm trying
to get to here?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah? And I think I think the collapse of like
things like the petro dollar and stuff. They've invested so
much in putting the fear into people about it collapsing. Yeah, yeah,
because everyone thinks that there'll be nothing on the other
side of it, right, But to get to the other
side of it, Like, that's the thing is they constantly
want it's always a catastrophe. It's never a slow movement

(36:02):
to like into anything like that, like anything good anyway,
Like they always make it a massive catastrophe and that
it'll be it'll be yeah, it'll be like so terrible
that hundreds of millions of people will die and all
this other stuff, you know what I mean. Before it'll
be like before, it could just be a gentle transition

(36:23):
of like teaching people things slowly and because that's how
humans work. If you really want them to be functional
and you want them to learn something new, it doesn't
have to be like snail paced, you know what I mean.
It can still be fairly quick, but it just can't
be dumped on us in chaos.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's like it's like.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
When you stick your when you put a stick in
the middle of one of those lines of ants, you
know what I mean, where the ants that have a
path already built to and from the nest and doing things,
and then and then and then you drop the stick
in the middle and they all just go wow and
freak out. And that's I think that's that's part of
what they want they want from us, is they want
us to freak out because people die by other people's hands.

(37:03):
Like people will freak out and kill each other, and
they think that they have to fight for everything. So
if you have to feed your kids, you're gonna do
whatever you need to do to do that, right, So
they'll instill that fear so that you'll never take that
full step into trying to be free in a meaningful
way when it comes to like electricity and things like that.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
I genuinely think that.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Kind of putting a bow tie on the COVID talk.
Do you think that is something they could ever try
to pull again on this generation? Or is that ship sailed?
Because there's still you know, talk of something Spars twenty
twenty five and Agenda twenty thirty, because I think they
would have to really put on a show, maybe heavily
spray a certain area like they did with Operation Sea

(37:51):
Spray in the fifties and everybody in San Francisco got
really physically sick in order to pull that off. Do
you think that ship is say again, they.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
All got kidney infections, point of hospitalization within twenty four hours.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
So does that something you think they could do again
in this generation or do you think they're going to
go another route?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I think that there's a couple of different ways that
you could think about that, right, because if you think
about it, so do you remember doctor Rashid Bhutar, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
He passed last year, right.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
He passed about he passed about nine months after he
gave this interview about he had a military a military
someone from the military contact him and show him these documents,
and he didn't have a chance to release the documents.
He died within like six weeks of him saying this
in an interview. But he was talking about how the cope.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
So when they inject the wow, what was it the
lipid particle?

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Right, when they injected that into people, even if it
didn't hurt you or your body straight away, what it
what it had en cased inside of it was what
was what mattered?

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Right?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
And it was made up of like thirteen different serious
things like there was a bowler. There was like all
these crazy scary things like rabies and all these other illnesses.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
But then the ones.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
That we're in there that kind of didn't make sense
at first, but the more you think about it does.
Is like things like salmonella and all these other all
these other things that we have existing in our body
right now, right that that's spread really easy because they're
they're natural, they're organic in your body. It's just a
matter of having an immune system and a healthy digestive

(39:41):
system that would get rid of it. So and what
he said was is when when when they released a
certain megahurtz of energy. So whether it's five G or
six G, don't really know yet. What it does is
it melts the fat layer off the lipid particle and
it releases all these things into the body. So there's

(40:03):
a couple of theories around five G and one of
them is that they haven't actually released it, even though
they talk about it and they've put the fear into
everyone about it. I say fear they don't they here
in Australia, everyone is so ignorant to five G is
it blows my mind. But I don't think that on
a real level they have an active five G system

(40:23):
the way that we think it is. I think that
they wanted us to think that so that we invest
in it, and so that they can then spend the
money that we've invested into it without knowing that it
doesn't exist properly. Still they can use that money to
make it exist. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Well? Sure? That would be like me telling you that
the new technology of baking cakes is really this way
much cheaper, but I tell you, like the real way
it costs to make a cake is only five dollars,
But I tell you it costs twenty dollars to make
a cake, so I end up pulling fifteen dollars off

(41:01):
every cake, and I use that for my black operations.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Right, And that's exactly what I think five G is,
to be brutally honest, after all of the research that
I've done in it, and I think four G in
itself is super dangerous as well, right, like any electromagnetic
I think that that's another reason why they got rid
of the old school energy system in the ether, right
because ether isn't damaging to the human persone, like the
human body or the like or anything around it in nature.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
It's it's at one with nature.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Because it was created by God, right and he made
it also that it all worked together. Whereas then you
get these other the state the other like electromagnetic issues
coming in. And what you'll find is is if you
trace back, like the Spanish flu, I can't remember if
it was one G or two G that came out
at that point in time, But every single time that

(41:51):
there's been a massive pandemic, there has been an upgrade
in the technological like electromagnetic energy that's put out into
the atmosphere to be able to do the technology technological
stuff that we've got going on now. I've always found

(42:12):
that I've always found that really interesting to think about.
But the bringing it back with the lipid nanoparticle, What
if they did that so say that that's true and
they wanted they wanted to like just randomly one day,
they release that five G pulse or the six G
pulse through those towers that they've built everywhere, and anyone

(42:33):
within a say, a fifty mile radius starts getting sick
and dies because like, you get overloaded in an instant
with all of those nanoparticles of those diseases, and you're
gotta die, and it's going to be a very very
very brutal way that you die. And is it still
pathogenenic in the way of like spreading at that point

(42:55):
even though it's been confined in that lipid nanoparticle so long?
So if someone dies next you and you're not vaccinated,
but they're dying from a bowler because they just got
released into their system, are you then susceptible to catching
that even if you're not vaccinated, Like, these are all
questions that come from that theory, and it would make
sense that that would be something that they would do right,

(43:16):
because then they could isolate it and say that, oh wait,
hang on, here's the reason, here's something that we could
do to fix it, and then all of a sudden everyone.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Stops getting it.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
But they just turned off the five G or the
six G in that area, and now everyone's you know
what I mean. So I think that they have the
ability to cause mass panic and get the results that
they want. But I think that they test the waters
by using things like social media, by doing posts through
say like like what I was explaining before about this

(43:46):
new JAB roll out here in Australia, like they're pushing
everyone to go get the COVID JAB again, and it's
I think they use those things as a test, and
I think that they read the comments. I think they
pay attention to that sort of stuff, especially when it
creates mass, like a mass interaction, and they pay attention
and they listen to it because they know that if

(44:08):
there's a certain percentage of people that don't go along
with their story, then they're never going to win it.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yep, they'll never be successful.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
That's right, one hundred percent. And if you go back,
there was I was while you were talking. I was
trying to find a guy we just talked about him
in a podcast two weeks ago. There was a guy
who was using a wireless phone in the eighteen hundreds
on a boat and he was talking to people on
the shore. And you know, Tesla was the same thing.
In order for their matrix to be successful, the people

(44:36):
have to be paris, you know, they have to be
parasites to the people. They don't want people only have
to work twenty hours a week to cover their expenses,
so they have to pay for gas, they have to
pay for their cell phone bill, which I see some
people pay two hundred dollars a month for a cell
phone bill. Oh my goodness. And then insurance is another
scam which here in the States are insurance is skyrocketed.

(44:58):
But like property insurance, when things come back down, they
never come down with it. They stay the same.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, And it's like the California fires and stuff, right,
like they won't ensure any of those houses now. But
everyone's like there's lots of interesting proof and theories about
how like they were created by like say lasers or something,
you know what I mean. So they do this sort
of stuff to get people off certain parts of the

(45:24):
land as well. I think like.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
To reduce the ability to live in those.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Places and then create say like the smart cities, So
they use these they use that that what would you
call that, like those calculations to their advantage.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yep, one hundred percent, And you're spot on. I've talked
about it before. If you go back through history and
you look at nineteen eighteen, the nineteen sixty eight was
that I forget the name of that Korea flew or
high H one and one and all of them. There
was a new techno, there was a new like radio

(46:00):
that had been changed. And even if you go back
to November first, twenty nineteen, G or G was it
five give G made its roll out in Wihan, Chana
on November first, twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yep. And if you remember, like there was always during
the during the lockdowns and stuff, and that first initial year,
there was all these toimes, like there was an underground
flow of information that was like, hey this is five G,
Hey this is five G.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
And it was always there. It was always ringing in
the background.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
And I was paying so much attention to the fact
that I knew that they were going to release a
vaccine that I just kind of brushed it under the
rug until like the vaccine came out and I was right,
and then I was like, right, let's.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Look at everything else, you know what I mean? And
then it was like.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Whoa, that's that's they were right, They were right.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, And what is six G coming twenty twenty eight?

Speaker 1 (46:59):
I certainly hope not because I'm listen. I don't know
if it's legal for me to say this or not,
but there'll be minor explosions happening all over the city.
All those towers will will definitely be cut and run down.
Have you seen the I think they call themselves the
Blade Runners.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah? Is it in the UK where they're doing that? Yeah,
in the UK.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
And they do such good work. Oh my gosh, they're
so amazing. They've even got these stickers now that they
put on the poles because there's so many people doing it,
and they put it on like the camera poles and
all the five G the five G installations and stuff,
and it shows people where to cut and how to
cut and do the things.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Great.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
And of course we're talking about doing it on Minecraft,
not real like it. We would never do that that.
The guy was definitely Minecraft they I was talking about
earlier was Nathan Stubblefield. He created a wireless telephone network
back in the eighteen hundreds. And once again, if you
can to history, you'll see a lot of famous people
at one point or another worked at PTO, the US

(48:04):
PTO where the patents are given out. So if they
see something that is life changing, they're going to they
will steal it from you. They will one hundred percent
steal it from you.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
And they've got your address, they've got all of your
details by doing that, by filing the PA. Yeah, and
that's where it comes into the system, is the systemic corruption,
right Like, these places are specifically set up so that
they can do things like that. Whether or not it's
the patent office, medical field, the government, it's every single

(48:36):
aspect has got a piece of this corruption in it,
which makes it that's why it's so parasitic. It's literally
every single facet of the system is infested with these things.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah, I agree. And all of these people who are involved,
do you think that they're all part of a bloodline
or do you think they are people who just sold
their souls to become wealthy and in joy life here
on earth or a combination of both.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Well, I think it's definitely a combination of both.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
It's kind of like when you look, Yeah, I think
it's a combination of both. But I think I think
that the real I think that the people that do
it just for the money or to live lavishly in
this life or I think that those are the people
that get thrown under the bus. So like there they're
like the foot soldiers that they don't care about. They're

(49:28):
the ponds in the game that the bloodlines are, the
kings and the queens on the board, do you know
what I mean. They're the they're the main pieces at
the back, behind the ponds that are like, oh, that's okay,
you go, you go get knocked off the board for me,
you know what I mean. Like, we'll just wait back here,
and then we've got all these special moves where we
can just like zoom across the board and knock out

(49:50):
anyone that we want in any direction that we want,
and we'll just we'll just stay behind the ponds. Yeah,
And I think that comes back to what you were
saying about, like knowing what everyone's sweet tooth is, knowing
that humans do have a weakness for those things.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Because we have free will.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
So and the world is so messed up sometimes that
you kind of go, oh, I wish I could just
do AB or C, you know what I mean, And
like it's it's an outlet for you to sort of
be able to go, ah, the world's not so bad now,
you know, whether it's money or anything else like that.
You know, do you.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Think every ruler is controlled? Like like you know, good guy,
bad guys. So you know you have Zelenski, you have Putin,
you have Netanyahu, you have Komani, you know Israel, Iran, Ukraine, Russia.
Do you think it's all theater or do you think
there's generally people who are not part of the club
and that's why the powers that be want to take

(50:47):
them out?

Speaker 1 (50:51):
I think, well, listen, I think that they're all part
of the club. I think that I think that. I
don't think I know, because you know what, you go
to the average human being in a school when they're ten,
and every single one of them, at some stage of
their lives want to be a president, you know what

(51:12):
I mean. They want to be the president of the
United States of America. But which one of those people
will ever become that none of them. You have to
have these special bloodlines. Yeah, like, and that's just the
president of the United States, right Like.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
If I think that, I think that.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
If if the leader that gets in, because it's like
a smaller country and they actually have a democratic voting system,
in that moment, I think that if the person gets in,
that's not going to comply with the general census of
all of the other leaders of the world. I think
they fall really quickly. It's proven in history that like

(51:49):
the CIA will infiltrate and kill them, like it could
be anyone from Saddam Husseining to I don't know, think
of like that Japanese prime minister that got killed last
year or was it this year?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
That was a year or two ago? Yeah, how quickly
we forget.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Right, Well, he came out right and he came out
against the COVID vaccine, and he made it so that
the Japanese kids don't get vaccinated until after they're too
and things like this, right like, and he got he
got killed fairly quickly after he got in. And I
genuinely think that people like that don't live for long
in those in that system. They can't you can't exist

(52:29):
with those the type of people that are willing to
kill anyone to get what they want.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah, and it's interesting if you go back and again,
I'm not condoning anything that this guy did as far
as bombing people, although it's interesting if you look at
the list of people I'm talking about Ted Kaczynski, they
called him the un obomber. There was a guy one
of the scientists he killed was named Epstein. But I'm
sure that's just a h Isn't that just a coincidence?

Speaker 1 (52:56):
But if my coincidence is full and overflowing, mate, it is.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
But he wrote in his you know long I played
the audio version of it, the two and a half
hour the Technocracy that he knew was coming, and he
was telling he was trying to tell people not to
embrace the technology, like once again, just like Satan, it's
presented as beautiful, awesome, great, but it really has and

(53:23):
will play a big part of our downfall. And I
believe that AI was created on the backs of people's
social media posts because we were teaching AI what we
liked and what we didn't like.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yep, I agree, And I think like if you look
back at like patents as far back as like the seventies,
the sixties and the seventies. There's plenty of proof that
these things, they've created, these screens to control and manipulate
your nervous system. Really so like yeah, yeah, hang on,
oh there is I'll look it up and i'll send

(53:58):
it to you so you can post it. It's nervous
system manipulation patents on Google. It's it's like multifaceted, right, like, yeah,
here we go, nervous system manipulation by electromagnetic field.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Like, and that's just one.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
There's plenty of them and you just have to search
it and it's all there in front of you.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
See.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
This is the thing about the information age. They took
a real chance at trying to get trying to get
this stuff through by using it and not Yeah. Yeah,
and I think that was like a nineties one, that
one that I just pulled up, like from the nineties.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
It is that right, two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, see there you go, wow, two thousand and one.
That's just a coincidence, right. It is possible to manipulate
the nervous system using electromagnetic fields admitted by computer monitors. Specifically,
certain post electromagnetic fields emitted by monitors particularly those displaying

(55:06):
post images. And isn't it funny anytime you watch something
on like Prime Video or even Netflix it says warning
flashing lights and things like that, which I know they
tell us is I think because of seizures, but yeah,
but also here it is telling you that these type
of things can interact with your nervous system, causing the

(55:30):
excitation of sensory resonations. And how many posts I don't
know if you've seen this. I don't want to assume
that you've seen this, But over the last year, I've
seen hundreds, if not thousands of people saying online that
they feel tired all the time, no matter how much
exercise they get, and no matter how much sleep they get.
Could it be that they are manipulating this exciting our

(55:52):
sensory so much that it mentally exhausts.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Us hands down every day of the wake And it
works in a very it's like a spider web.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Every single little bit is connected. It's everything.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
It's the food, then it's the electromagnetic pulsations that they've
got running through the air all the time.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Like I think it's multifaceted.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
I think that there's lots of different angles that they
take so that it maximizes the power of these things.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
How deep does the rabbit hole go? Is there anything
that we have that they don't use against us?

Speaker 1 (56:28):
No, the rabbit hole's deep and it's wide, and there's
a reason for us because they don't want to fail.
Like and this is where it comes back to the
whole spiritual conversation, right, this is why people get to
this point and then they go, ah, I'm out, I
just don't even know, I don't think it's real, and
they just go into full denial mode because at that

(56:48):
point you have to kind of acknowledge the fact that
it is a spiritual war, that there is a war
going on for the spirit of you and the people
that you love and everyone else in the world that
you don't even know that they want, that they want
their souls or their energy, whatever it is that they want,
they are going to do anything to get it, and

(57:09):
they put it right in front of you like this, right,
Because have you ever heard of Mark Passio of course, yeah, yeah, yeah,
So he talks about he talks about natural law and
how if they if they do something so say, like
I don't know, like this whole five G thing, right,
Like if if everyone just stays silent about it.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Silence is consent, yes, agreed.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Right, right, and so so then they don't get if
I know, karma is the wrong word to use for it,
but that's just the best, excellent, explent, explanatory word that
I've got for it. They get they can't get their
karma first, like doing something against someone's consent, do you
know what I mean, Like whether it's God's law, which

(57:52):
I think it is genuinely, but like I don't, they
don't get the repercussions of doing it without your without warning.
You can find this information anywhere. See, that's the double
edged sword of the information age. They know that the
information is in front of people, but they put them
in the position where they don't want to see it
or they don't want to acknowledge it. But that silence

(58:12):
and that non acknowledgment is still consent and they don't
have to face the consequences for it if they get
everyone's consent.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
One hundred percent, right, Because that's why they use certain
agents in the truth community as consent. I always and
I never tell anybody, don't listen to Alex Jones.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
I will.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
You'll never hear me say don't listen to someone. Everybody
use your own judgment. But I believe Alex Jones is
obviously controlled. I mean, here's a guy who they found
was a billion dollars for what he said about Sandy
Hook and then his business was going to be sold,
and you know, miraculously something happened and is still on
the air today. They use him for disclosure. That's see

(58:56):
what we told you that you should have listened to
this guy. The same with I think Tucker Carlson, right,
you can't have a guy who's part of a family
like the Swanson Empire, just like Anderson Cooper part of
the Vanderbilt Empire, not be part of the club they
use them. You got to have your good guys, you
have to have your bad guys, and you have to
have disclosure. And I believe that's what they use Tucker
Carlson for.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Although I have to admit though that laugh, his laugh
makes me smile every time I hear it. Oh yeah,
I love that laugh is gold. I remember hearing that
when I was a kid on the news and being like.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Huh yeah, and listen. I genuinely hope I'm wrong. Maybe
it's just the conspiracy part of me that just accepts
that anybody who's on the world stage has to be
a part of the show. Right.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I think you're right, though. I think you're right, and
it's being aware of that is a good thing, knowing
what the Vanderbilt The Vanderbilts are very well renowned to
be a part of the same configuration as the Rothschilds
and those thirty odd.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Families that have.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Most of the power and the old money in the world.
And they call it old money for a reason because
it's been around for a long time. And how do
they always have it? Like it's usually like, isn't it
Like you get a lot of money in one generation
and then by two generations later they broke and they're
working nine to five, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Like, how do they keep that that for so long?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Right? And that's just the families we hear of. If
you look at the real old families like the Orsines.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Orsines, Yeah, if.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
You look them up on Wikipedia, they'll tell you that that, oh,
that ended one hundred years ago, although the people are
still alive. That that is not the fact. I will
tell you there's probably families who are more wealthy than
the Rockefellers and Rothchilds who you don't know of that
are behind the sales pull and the strings.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah, and you won't hear those names. You won't hear
the names of those families because they don't want that attention.
It's kind of like Epstein, right, he was linked to
all these different people, but they threw him under the
bus because he was the least bad, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
He was the lowest on the total pool. Yeah, and
that should say a lot. A guy who knew everything
about who had the secrets of presidents and kings and
he's low on the totem poll. That should scare you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
That should scare everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
And I think that's why everyone latched onto that so hard,
is because that could actually like it was like the
Pieteragate thing, right, Like once they once they propagandized that
whole subject, it was really hard to sort of find
truth in amongst the weeds if you weren't in it
from the original day. It was like even now you
have there's only very few like documentaries or anything that

(01:01:34):
you can actually watch to get to the basic foundational
truth of that situation. And I think that's like that's
what they used Epstein for like they which is like
you said, it's terror that's terrifying. Like there's even like
he was he wanted to repopulate the world with his seed.
Like if that doesn't talk like in this he was

(01:01:54):
part of a cloning company. He he had all of
these things. And if he's the lowest the totem pole
for that stuff, then these people have got some dirt.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
They've got some dirt.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
And I want to see it all. I want to
see it all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
George, Oh, yeah, we should, and when we find it,
we should expose it for what it is and point
out the true evil people in this world for sure.
And you don't know the name that's been coming up.
And I want to ask you if you think this
person was genuine or controlled And people will point out
while he was killed so obviously, but you just never know.

(01:02:31):
Isaac Cappy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
I knew you were going to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Say, Isaac Cappy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I
knew it. No, I think I was in the midst
of that. I was watching him live on some of
those videos really and I remember, yeah, like he was
going through those motions live and like talking to us
in the chat like when that happened.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
He Some of the things that he said is what
led us down, like say, like the Tom Hanks rabbit hole,
and he said all of these things that were true.
If he if he, I think his I think he was.
I think he was a part of the MK Ultra program.
I think he was one of their lowly like not lowly,

(01:03:17):
but yeah, lowly robots. I think he was one of
the like the NPC type programs where he was there
to spread information. But I think his programming got broken somehow.
I think something broke in that guy's brain and made
him see everything without the rose colored glasses on, so

(01:03:37):
to speak, and those rose colored glasses being the programming
that had happened to him since he was a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Because you could see it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
He literally like he'd had some sort of psychotic break
at some point during during the course of like leading
up to him doing those lives right before he got suicided,
there was something in him that was it still wasn't
all there. It's kind of like listening to Paul Bonacci
or like Fiona Fiona from Australia talking about like Nicole

(01:04:11):
Kidman and stuff. It took her years to get to
the point where she could have a cognitive thought of
her own without being suppressed or changed in a way
that makes the look psychotic or like they're having a
psychotic break. Do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Yeah, one hundred per I think they had Fiona on
two or three years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
I'd have to go back and look, she's Amazingona is
a phenomenal human being.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, you recommended me to her, and I think maybe
even twenty twenty two, she was on talking about her
abuse of what was her name again, the actress.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Nicole Kidman, that's right, and her dad, her dad literally
suicided within two days of her releasing this statement to
the press that she was a part of the what
was it called my mind is blanking out on the name?
The Woodrow Commission that we had here Antonia and it

(01:05:09):
was like system systemic child abuse, and she was part
of that. She was part of the group of people
that came out and testified and put their record on
the books. Do you know they made it so that
they can't release the details of that until like twenty
forty or something twenty fifty or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Of course, remember JFK when they first did it. They
put that away for sixty or seventy years, all of
these things.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
And they're trying to do it with COVID as well. Yeah,
they tried to do it with the fires of papers
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
PISA said that they needed one hundred and seventy five
years to release all of the documents.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Nine months to release a bio weapon, but seventy years
to release the documents. What kind of by that point, No,
not at all. By the way, if you look at
his name is Anthony Kidman. If you look at his Wikipedia,
it says he died of a heart attack.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Yes, but it was also it was also the they yeah,
he definitely he was definitely.

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
Oh yeah, but no, no, say but he fell down
the stairs or something as well, like there was something
to do with there are initial reports was that he
like jumped out of a window or he fell down
some stairs or something, and then they changed it later
on to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
He had a heart attack and fell out the window
or fell down the stairs.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Yeah, And that was within literally two days of Fiona
going on the news, like because her lawyer she didn't
she didn't know that she was going on that present
like that she was going to say the things that
she said to the Australian media, and she had like
every single station of the Australian media in front of
her with their cameras and their microphones, and she was shocked,
the lawyer like, you could see it in her if

(01:06:51):
you've spoken or watched her for any length of time,
you can actually see in her face that she was
shocked that she was having to say what she was saying.
But within two days he was dead because she dropped
names and she wasn't. That's the only reason why that
woman is still alive right now, because if they killed her,
I would have made her a marta exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
And if you go back to the news, there's a
newspaper called Independent Australia Anthony Kidman dies amidst child abuse allegations.
And again it was just a coincidence that just a
few days after this came out that he just happened
to die, right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Yeah, Oh, always a coincidence.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
That's why I need a bigger job.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Yeah, I need a house just for our coincidences.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
I think I just need another planet that would be good,
because I think our whole planet is made up of
these coincidences.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Yeah, I agree. Do you think most you know, we
talked about Tom Hanks and I don't know if you
saw the news, but two weeks ago the news came out,
you know, Diddy's trial, and I think that's part disclosure too.
Mike Myers, the guy who played Austin Powers and was
on Saturday Night Live, it turns out he was part
of the CIA. Do you think most of these actors

(01:07:57):
are you know, Tom Hanks, the Mike Myers, the time
cruisers are part of this and we give them names,
whether it's the CIA or scientology, but do you think
they are part of the club? And A do you
think it is for Intel or B? Do you think
it is all for them? They have a special thing
to control our minds or you know Hollywood? What is Hollywood?

(01:08:20):
It is? It's a stick that they used to cast spells,
right right?

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Well that and then you've got on top of that,
they're put through the television, which we both just discussed,
and manipulate your nervous system. And they they've we we
as human beings and our brains have been studied for
long enough to understand that we can be manipulated in

(01:08:45):
certain ways. And I think that the Hollywood elite.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
It's hard for me to say whether or not all
of them are elite. I don't think they're elite. I
think their parents were.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
And then they are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Programmed and manipulated through things like the mk Ultra programs
that they would have had running to be able to
change those kids from the time of the from the
very from the moment that they were conceived in their
mum's womb. Probably you know like that that those those
systems of manipulation and mind control happened from those stages

(01:09:22):
in life, Like there's there's reports that that happened. You
know that they started those programs from the time of conception.
They would do things to the baby in the womb
that then led them to to being born, and then
continuing that work in a more intense way. And then
then you get like robots or NPCs, all these people

(01:09:45):
like Britney Spears and all of these people. Like you
look at all of them, you can bring up mugshot
after mugshot after mugshot of these kids turning into adults
that break down, They break down in a serious way.
And I think that that's part of that programming, breaking
down in their brain because it only lasts so long, you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Know, and then they and then they bring out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Oh, she's psychotic or she's got a mental illness or
she's you know what I mean like it, and that's
how it always works. And then they always die, like
and if they don't die, then they just stay crazy
in the media, and then they're like and then that's
more of a distraction, right, because then they're crazy and
then everyone's like, oh, I remember when she was like

(01:10:27):
this or he was like this. It's like the whole
Justin Bieber is at that point now, and like with
this ditty stuff coming out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
It's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Justin Bieber was past my point in like time, Like
he wasn't the pop star that I listened to when
I was a kid, you know what I mean, Like
that was back Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears were like
early early teens, you know what I mean. Like we're
talking those those people now look at them now, Yeah,
those people want the world at their feet, and now

(01:10:57):
they're broken and they're they're they're not who they should be,
and all these things have come out slowly, like like
and I'll use Britney Spears again for a really interesting example,
like the conservativeship that her dad had over her. That
was he could he got a contraceptive device implanted in

(01:11:17):
her so she could not have any more babies. Like
what what kind of like normal or even slightly saying
human being would do that to their child, especially one
that made you millions, right, like because she didn't get
she could spend her own money, she couldn't do anything
under the conservatives ship. And you tell me that that's
not all that's not all connected. And you look at

(01:11:38):
his history and his family history, and it's really interesting
his connections too to some of the bigger names.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Yeah, that I've stopped listening to secular music last year,
just because when you find out how evil it is,
how they how parasitic it is. I've heard the stories
of musicians who've just they get thirty twenty percent of
record sales, how they break people. You hear the musicians
who were just put out on tour year after year
after year, and you know, and then of course you know,

(01:12:07):
if you look at the music from the sixties and seventies,
the backward masking and the subliminal messages and when you're
singing these verses and lyrics you're chanting things that once
again you were programming yourself when you don't even know it, and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
You're charging the general atmosphere around you with that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Yeah, Like that's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
It's well known.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Like they've they've just brought out this new They brought
out a new study about six weeks ago, and it
was about Beethoven's Fifth Symphony. It actually destroys cancer cells
without destroying anything else around it, and they've actually released
the science about that. So you tell me, like they
changed the hurts that music is played back to you

(01:12:49):
at it's non harmonious with the human field, like the
general field of the earth, Like what I remember I
went to the I went to this It was like
a It was like a big festival, and it was
a metal festival because I was always a bit of
a metal head and that Metallica was on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
And I remember standing at the very.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Back of the crowd, like because I don't know if
it's the same Oaver there or not, but they put
up like fences to keep the eighteen year olds and
drinking behind the fence because that's an all ages event
and I'm talking hundreds of thousands of people in front
of me, right and I remember it was the moment
that I stopped listening to secular music too, because I
looked across this crowd and I was standing just like

(01:13:30):
half a foot higher than all of them, and they
were all doing this and singing the lyrics. And I
remember seeing that when I was a kid in the
podiums while the while they were preaching and singing godly
songs and stuff, people were literally worshiping these like these
people singing these words, and I just like, I remember

(01:13:50):
having that epiphani. I'll never forget it because I was
really really into music. I loved music. Now I can't
even listen to it without being like, well, that was
really really bad to think, like even thinking those thoughts.
You don't want to think the thoughts. Why are you
singing the words out of your mouth?

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
And they put like happy music behind it too. I
think sometimes you listen to some of the lyrics and
you're like, hang on a second, why am I Why
am I bopping to this? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
You know, one of the most popular songs of the
eighties was imagined by John Lennon, and that's like literally
the communist national anthem no Heaven, no Hell, just you
know everybody almost it's basically Alistair Crowley's do what Thou
Wilt into a song?

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Yep, absolutely absolutely, speaking of that evils sod yep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
And I also wanted to mention Tesla's three six nine rule.
It's also known as the three six nine method, which
is a technique based on the belief that the numbers three,
six and nine hold us special significance, potentially holding a
quote a key to the universe. Now, back in the day,
you were talking about Beethoven's fifth or most I forget

(01:15:00):
which one was it again, it was symphony.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Yeah, So Western music for many years up until the
sixties used to be in four thirty two hurts. So
if you take four plus three plus two you get nine. Well,
in the sixties they changed it to four forty four
plus four plus zero equals eight. So again, while this

(01:15:25):
seems subtle, there are all kinds of thesis and papers
and websites that have written about this subject about how
it is just changing the hurts of the music to
popular music and all types of music, it has become
detrimental to our health and mental well being.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Yeah, and I mean, and all you have to do
is like.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
And listen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
I know not everyone likes listening to her, but Candice
Owen's talks about it because she talks about the black
community and how rap was introduced and how the wrappers affected,
like the way that their community has developed in the
like and led them to where we are today, where
they've got like high higher non marriage rates, like kids
kids that don't have dads in the homes, people like

(01:16:13):
them shooting each other all the time, that the crime
rates are through the roof, Like that's not that's not
an accident.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
That's not that's not an accident. That is deliberate and
it's and it kind of leads.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Back to what we were talking about before, Like these weaknesses
all all coagulate and work together to make a really
big problem. So you could take one of those problems
and you could say, right, well, this is only doing this.
But then your food is healthy, so you're still getting
light from somewhere, you know what I mean, You're still

(01:16:47):
getting You're still healthy to ninety percent of the time.
But then you add then you add the dirty water
that you bathe bathe your body in and that you
drink from the tap, and then you add in all
of these other things that like, it makes a perfect
storm of stupidity and underdeveloped human brains that make it

(01:17:07):
so that it they're easier to control through things like
this nervous system manipulation and music and tactile things, right,
so they use the non tactile things to accentuate the
tactile things that we get addicted to quite easily. Because
human nature is that we want to be surrounded in
sounds and music. Music is in every culture across the world.

(01:17:29):
That's why they manipulate it, because they know that the
human brain is aligned with it. It's the same reason
why they destroyed all the bells, like the bells that
they used to ring on Sundays and stuff like. That's
all related back to the Tartaria subject because it was
around the same time that they started destroying the buildings
that were built in.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
That time era.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Like you said that it had the sound frequency stuff
in it, and that they started destroying them because they
knew that it changed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
It changed the world.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
It energized the world the way that it was meant
to be energized. And they don't have bells anymore. Where
do you know that they have bells that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Ring even in our church? Which was built in eighteen
ninety two. Unfortunately it's been it wasn't properly maintained, and
if they rang the bell today, the whole tower would collapse.
This is something that I'm not sure I've ever mentioned,
but if you take a little bit of time and research,

(01:18:27):
right and again, world War two is not what most
people think it is. But one of the reasons, one
of the goals, I should say, of World War two
was the destruction, the removal, and the melting down of
bells during World War Two. And they actually think about
how evilis was. They took these bells that were able

(01:18:48):
to heal, right, and they melted them down to be
used in weapons. That's the same that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
They did that deliberately. Those things are so deliberate.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
That's like all relative to gnosticism and stuff like that.
Like if you look at the way that Alistair Crowley
did things, that's what he that's what he preached, right,
things like that. If you want to change something, you've
got to It's like the na It's exactly what you
just said. You take something beautiful and pure and you
turn it into something evil. It's like have you ever
heard of lay lines? Of course, Yeah, Yeah, So like

(01:19:21):
it's like lay lines all of those buildings.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
I think that's that works.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
I think lay lines work in conjecture with where we
were able to access ether.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
That's why like those energy fields and stuff, then the
magnetic fields are a lot stronger around those points. And
if you look at all the major buildings around the
world that like have any historical significance, that's they're built
on lay lines, right. So what happens when you take
say a lay line and build a military base on it,
or you build Giitma on it, and you've got torture

(01:19:52):
going on, and you've got all of this bad, bad
stuff happening. It pollutes. It pollutes the energy grids of
the earth yep.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Yeah. And Alistair Crawley and that the whole thelema thing.
They gridded each other with ninety three ninety three because
will and love in the Greek words thelema and a gape,
but they both equal ninety three. And if you look
at all the numbers that have relative to ninety three
in the world, like the sun is nine hundred, they
tell us the sun is ninety three million miles away.

(01:20:22):
Adam lived to be nine hundred and thirty God, Right,
So God's original son Adam that the Sun God created.
That's the mockery they use in all of this. And
ninety three. You can look at United ninety three, right,
And if you look at the movie poster for United
ninety three, it's an upside down plane that looks like
an upside down cross right. Yeah, Flight ninety three.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
So the numbers they again, you will never you will
never convince me that that's not the way that they
do things.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
It's like hidden in plain sight.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
And the reason why they use numbers is because they've
dumbed people down enough that they don't look at numbers anymore.
They don't look at giamatra anymore, the same way that
they used to. Numbers were the original language of the
entire world. Yep, you know what I mean. They're the
original language. Like why wouldn't they continue to use them?

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
They're effective?

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Yeah. If you look in the Bible, you'll see the
number seven everywhere, and the one forty four is everywhere,
and the number two.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
A book, a whole book cold numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Yep, you know what I mean, Like, there's literally a
whole book in the Bible cold numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Yeah, the fourth Book of the Bible. That's right before
we transition into I want to talk a little bit
about I know, do you have to go? Do you
stop a little bit of time?

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Oh, I'm good, I'm very good. Okay, how he didn't
work today. Hoby didn't work today. So he's got the
kids under control.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Okay, awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
The two oldest ones have gone to bed, but the
little one is still running around.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
I don't know how.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Takes the energy straight from my soul. That's where she
gets it from.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
All of the talk of nukes, and you know, we
talk about the constant fear porum and the depending on
the government. What are your thoughts on nuclear missiles? Are
they real or another her fear porn tool for.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
I've read enough that makes me doubt them. I've read
enough information and come across enough things that make me go.
But if that's the case, then why didn't this happen
or why didn't it whether it's Chernobyl or even Fukushima
and all these other things like I don't know, I
just I actually just had a friend get back from

(01:22:30):
the touring Japan and she spent like three weeks in Fukushima.
I would have never expected that from her. Let me
just say, fly I disappeared from nowhere. But yeah, she's
she reckons that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
It's like that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
She said that there was like garbage bags of like
what they called radioactive waste that she could see from
a far, far, far away, Like they're not supposed to
get that close to it or whatever. But what are
they hiding there? That's what I want to know. If
nuclear Like if you just go along with the fact
that nuclear isn't what they say it is, what do
they use those places to hide? Do you know what

(01:23:09):
I mean? Because everyone's so afraid of it, they don't
go near it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Why would you go near it?

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
It's gonna kill you. That's a really good way to
keep people away from really really interesting stuff that you
would want to know the truth, well me, or you
might want to know the truth about it, because we're
asking those questions. But I don't know radiate. I'm in
two minds, right. I think the real problem radiation that
we have is literally the electromagnetic pollution.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
I think that that's the real radiation.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Whether or not nuclear stuff is real or not, it's
still a debate in my mind. I haven't actually got
a firm a firm belief either way. And that might
be because my fear holds me back, Like I seriously, Oh,
that's probably one thing that I would fear happening, you know,
like they've put enough fear into everyone about like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
The nuclear the nuclear is ticking, We're.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Gonna all die, you know what I mean? But I
do that with everything, so it's really hot to take
it seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Right, And you know, I went to AI and I
gave it the specifications of Earth and our spinning and
how fast we were traveling, and then I said, what
would happen if an explosion of And then I put
the however many kilotons it was in Hiroshima would make
that spinning ball change trajectory? And it said yes, it

(01:24:26):
would change it slightly, but enough. And I said, would
it be enough to affect the people who are living
on it? It said yeah, so basically. But what it
was saying was nuclear weapons kind of disprove that we're
on this spinning ball hurling through space, because if it
did happen at that massive explosion, it would have changed
trajectory and the spin rate. It would have put us

(01:24:48):
off course and just screwed everything up and obviously we
know what would have happened after there. So and again
I find it interesting the Bible, we're on God's time.
Man can't destroy this earth. They tried in the fifties
with Operation Fishbowl, right, they tried that and it didn't work.
So I think a lot of it is fear born.
And again that they have things that probably the real

(01:25:09):
technology that they're hiding from us and they're using it
against us.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Yeah, and it's things like I can't remember what movie
it was, but it actually scared me more than a
nuclear bomb. It's the a bomb that goes off and
it's not like an explosion bomb, but it sucks all
the oxygen.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Out of his thermaicer or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Yeah, and it sucks all the it's just sucks all
of the oxygen out of everything within a certain radius
of whatever kiloton or wherever the boundaries are that they
write into it. I always found that more terrifying than
a nuclear bomb, at least, you know what I mean.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
It's the thermobaric weapon. It basically it's like a vacuum bomb.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
It just sucks the oxygen out of everything.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Yeah, they called a vacuum bomb just because of that exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
That's crazy that the fact that that's even in the
human brain.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Just like, what, why why create these things?

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
I know, I know, I know the guy who created
the the AK forty seven. You know, he went on
record to say he was you know, he regretted. I
guess I think I remember he regretted making that because
you know, he created something. But again, these are just tools.
These things don't fire themselves, right, I mean, we blame

(01:26:26):
guns here in the United States on things. The guns
don't walk on their own. They don't. It's the people.
I mean, the first murder happened second generation with cannon
abel and they people driving through crowds. In the UK,
people get stabbed, So blaming these ananimate.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Australia people get stabbed. They just banned they just literally
banned our local supermarkets from being able to sell knives.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Are you serious?

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
I am so serious, George. It would blow your mind
just because literally, well listen, if you were walking down
the street and you had to thought, oh, I'm going
to stab this person, you would have second thoughts about
that if you neither had a gun like a carry
you know what I mean that they were caring possibly
they could be, they couldn't be.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Who knows, You don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
You'd have a much safer environment if you just allowed
everyone to have bloody guns here, of course, much rather.
I'd much rather have a gun aimed at me and
know that I've got a gun in my side pocket too,
than have a knife shoved in my chest.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Yeah, for sure. And that's the perfect segue, is you know.
I did a podcast just a couple of weeks ago
on Port Arthur and there there was so many and
I'd never really taken the time to really do a
deep dive into it. And this two day event and
it's always these guys, you know. He I think his
IQ was around sixty six or so and one person.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Full Sorry what was that number again?

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Oh yeah, just that's just a coincidence, sixty six.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Coincident.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
But he was a blonde hair right m hm. And
can you explain that to the listeners because that's something
I don't even think I mentioned on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Right, So there's there's a there was a there was
a cult and you can look them up. They were
called the Great White Brotherhood. It was run by a
lady that had properties here and in the US, so
she was.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
She would travel quite a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
She she would adopt and recruit these kids. And for
some reason, they always had white hair, and there was
there was there was a theory behind it. And she
it's the kid that she chose didn't have white hair,
white blonde hair. She would make it white blonde. And
there's a very interesting picture. I've actually got it in

(01:28:39):
one of my steam It posts. There's a picture of
all of these children at one stage standing together, and
one of them looks like Martin.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
Martin, he looks like him, Bryant.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
He looks he looks identical to him as a kid,
you know, like and then there's another picture with what
I thought looked very similar to Juliana Sante and the
connections that I don't know if everyone knows, but how
Julian Assange actually came to be who he was was
he hacked. He hacked a military system when he was
like sixteen, when he was fifteen or sixteen here in Australia.

(01:29:13):
And then like you tell me, the CIA didn't like
grab that and run as fast as they could with it,
you know, like those those types of people don't stay
don't stay normal for long. They get used and put forward.
But yeah, no, he was definitely he was definitely a
part of both of those men. I can safely say

(01:29:33):
that after my research that they were definitely a part
of that in.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
The Great White Brotherhood.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Also with the links to America, there was links to
like the farm that they lived on in the US,
there was links to other other big players in the government,
and they there was rumors of child trafficking and so
on and so forth. You can just imagine. But I
don't think that he had an IQ of sixty six.
I think he was a lot smarter, And I think

(01:29:59):
they said that to play down so people didn't look
beyond that, so they were like, oh, yeah, he was
just a simpleton. He just shot all these people, whereas
someone with that kind of IQ, you can't even the
best military people have tried to reenact what happened that
day with the way that the shots happened and the

(01:30:20):
way that everything happened. Not even the best shooter of
like in the military, one of the best shooters in
the military can reenact the way that they said that
that happened.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Yeah, that sounds similar to the Kennedy assassination. Right at
most of them at the speed and everything. So Martin
Bryant was it was the assassin and he had a
really there's always the backstory of him hurting animals, being
in special education. But his early twenties, I think his

(01:30:56):
mom and dad died under unusual circumstances and they ended
up living with a rich woman.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Well, I think I think that I think that they
can rewrite history when it comes to childhoods. Yeah, I
think I think that his his mum and dad probably
died myster if they did, if they say that that
was a real event, right, that they weren't trying to
pin that on him, to make him look like crazy psycho,
to try and prove that he did do what they
say he did on that day. They they would have

(01:31:27):
been involved in him being a part of this great
White brotherhood, And it makes sense that he would have
like at that age, if he did kill them, right,
or he did do something to them, it would make
sense that he did that out of anger, because why
would you kill your parents if you weren't angry, And

(01:31:48):
why would he be angry that angry? What would make
you that angry that you got sold to someone that
abused you and took advantage of you. And who you
were until you were old enough to say no more
like what, I don't know that that's that's that's what
I that's what I think happened. I think that he
was sold as a kid. And I think that it

(01:32:11):
maybe lent, maybe borrowed to is a better way to
put it. I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
I think the stitches are so tightly wound around that
and his childhood that it would be really hard to
prove anything without getting top secret documents or something.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Yeah, I agree. And the two things that stick out
to me was the woman he met, Helen Harvey or
I'm sorry, yeah hh, Helen Harvey, right, was a lottery winner, right,
and then she lived in a place called Newtown, right,
And we had a shooting in Connecticut in a place
called Newtown. And how many people, how many of those

(01:32:56):
families were one lotteries? Did you ever look into that
rabbit hole?

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
I did? Actually, Yeah, it was a very interesting It
was definitely an interesting read. How many millions of dollars
went into that community through lottery, lottery wins?

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Yeah, and the I can't remember them, the woman who
wrote the Hunger Games, which was about children killing each other?
Was she lives in Sandy Hill, Connecticut?

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
That that that show is insane?

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Have you actually watched those movies?

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
So we saw the movies back in the day, but
I always fell asleep in the movies.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
But I always find those it's like, it's like Game
of Thrones, right, like, yeah, I try not to participate,
but if you watch those shows with like an awake
point of view and you're trying to see what they're
trying to show you, because they show you it in
real time like game Game of Thrones. There's an ice
wall in Game of Thrones. George Yep, yep, and Ice Walt,

(01:33:52):
Ice Walt, I'm just gonna say it again, and Ice Walt,
what like, come on people? And that's just the start
of it. I don't know, just the way and the
and and the thing that always got me about Game
of Thrones is that like all of these kings and
queens and drama rah. But then the people that are
funding it, and they say it all the time, they say,

(01:34:13):
who is who? How are you going to win this war?
I've got the bank of Bravas behind me. Where did
Bravos Bravos? Which is also what Sweden or Switzerland in
our time, in our world, that's what they would be,
you know what I mean? Where are all those places
inhabited with what are all those places inhabited? The w EF,

(01:34:36):
the like what was like? The who? Who has their
main office there as well?

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Like the U and the World Bank is there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
The bankers are the ones that roll everything, And they
actually say that multiple times. And the only people that
walk away from that war, like those massive wars in
that show, is literally the bankers. They sit in their
little iron thrones with their money and they fund these wars,
and it literally shows you, It shows you the truth
in all of these things, you know. And that's where

(01:35:09):
Hunger Games always was really interesting because I always had
a feeling that that was like a a few that's
kind of what they do to us now, right. They
put us in a ring and they expect us to
kill each other, not necessarily literally sometimes yes literally, but
they put us in this ring and they pit us
all against each other, and they wonder, like we wonder
why we're always stuck in this rotating hamster ball, you

(01:35:31):
know what I mean, where nothing changes and we're always
stuck in this system. And it's like well, hello, they
pitted us all against each other and they put us
in this dome, this like matrix dome, and then they
let us go at each other because we're trying to survive.
And that's exactly what the whole point of that movie
is is that they're trying to survive. Yeah, like if

(01:35:53):
if you don't kill someone, then they're gonna kill you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
That's right, that's right. His name is dav Seaworth.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
There you go, Davos Seaworth.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
So I know you were geez, you must have been
five or six years old when Port Earthur happened. But
there's been more things since, and you just mentioned within
the last month there's been another event and they've continued.
You know, all of these things are used to take
you know, your protection from you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Yeah, so it started last last year or was it
twenty twenty one. I think it was twenty twenty one
or twenty twenty two. There was a massive I say massive.
It wasn't like a school shooting what you guys get
over there, It wasn't It wasn't anything like that. It
was literally like these cops tried to get onto this

(01:36:46):
property where it was a massive property. They weren't allowed there,
they weren't under arrest, No one was under arrest, No
one was They were just literally going there to start havoc,
so to speak. And the cops got killed and they
got killed, and they were writing it all over the news,
the conspiracy theorists that have have this idea about the

(01:37:08):
world and their homesteaders and they lived off the land
and they you know what I mean, and they demonized
all these things that we value and they made it
this huge, big thing where they tried to take off,
like we've got really really basic gun rights here. There's
I don't know exactly what they are right now because
we're in the middle of a bit of a fight

(01:37:28):
over them, but rifles are pretty much the only thing
you can have here, and they're very limited. There's like
four or five different kinds of rifle that you can
have here, and they're like single shot like hunting rifles. Yeah,
pretty much. They may as well call the muskets because
that's what they pretty much are, right But people were

(01:37:49):
satisfied with that because ninety nine percent of the time
the people that have gun license a gun license here
have big properties and they have animals to look after
and they've got they've got to have that for like
pest protection and all sorts of things. Right, it's never
been about human protection since the marm and Bryant thing,
like that's all been weeded out of the Australian state

(01:38:11):
of mind. Right, And if you said to someone like
I've had massive arguments with people over it, like what
do you want to go back to America? Because I
could carry a gun. That's why, like I want. I
want to be able to protect my family, you know
what I mean. Like I don't understand why you don't.
And they're like, oh, well, yo, you couldn't send your
kids to school because there'd be school shootings every week

(01:38:33):
and ra rah rah rah rh. It's like, Okay, I
don't send my kids to school, so that's not going
to happen, you know what I mean. Like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
The system over here is very broken.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
But leading back to what we were talking about, the
new laws that they try to bring out because of
that shooting, they were trying to take ninety percent more
of the limited amount of rifles that we had. They
were trying to limit it to the point where you
had to have like I think it was like two
hundred acres at least to be able to even apply
for all license and like people were literally renting their

(01:39:04):
properties to people like on paper so that more people
could get their licenses again. And there was a huge
there was a huge uproar over it. All of that,
all of those policies have only just now been seen
in the last six weeks through Parliament. And they started
a buyback scheme where they they said, well, hang on,
They started a scheme where you had to turn in
your rifles that didn't match the new laws, and people

(01:39:27):
kicked up such a stink that they had to change
it to a buyback because people were losing money and
they were they were really upset about it, right, They
were like, I'm not handing my rifles in. You're not
giving me anything back for it, Like I've spent thousands
of dollars on them, like never going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
I'm not turning him in.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
And so they started threatening him with jail and fines
and all these things. And now we've gone to the
point where there was such there was such a huge
wave of fight back, which is kind of hopeful in
my in my being because I didn't expect it to happen.
But the new legislation was renounced last week, so they've
completely taken away the buyback scheme and the new laws

(01:40:06):
that they were trying to pass trying to take these rifles,
and they've reversed it. So three days ago, what happens
there's a shooting in broad daylight in Sydney. Really, are
you kidding me? Like, are you actually trying this right now?
Like there's it was all over the news and it

(01:40:28):
was like I think they said, I think three people
were shot or something in broad daylight in the middle
of Sydney, and it was like, this is literally after
you've tried taking the guns for how many months now,
Like you've tried years at this point, Like you said,
I was really young when that happened. I'm thirty five now,
like Australia has been without guns for a quarter of
a century. Like that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
So according to this he's still on the loose. They
haven't found on me yet.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
Oh isn't that interesting?

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
CIA agent.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Yeah, and by the way, you were talking about oh
I just had it in front of me. Goodness, gracious,
the shooting we were just talking about. Oh, here it
is they William Billa shootings that took place December twelfth,
twenty twenty two, and I'll put the links if you
all want to look at this. How convenient was it

(01:41:19):
that these were quote unquote Christians that apparently where was
my notes here? They participated in Australian conspiracy theory forums.
They were anti government, anti police, anti vaxxers, and how
dare they support the sovereign citizen movement. He also claimed

(01:41:43):
that the Port Arthur massacre was a false flag operation
and that the Princess Diana killing was a blood sacrifice.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
Isn't that interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
I think this is.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
I think that's what we talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
I was just say, I think he listens to the fact.
I know, but obviously this is this was during the
height of the anti JAB movement, and I think this
was put in place to quell that conversation, hoping to
quell that conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
Yeah, I gat completely. Yep, I agree completely, And I
think that they used it. It was like a double stranded
like wind right. They could use it to reduce the
guns again because they saw the sentiment in the people
coming up against them.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
With the anti vaxx movement. Here, we had like the
to protest in Australia.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
Just to give you an idea, right, Like, so a
Perth is the most isolated city in the whole world.
So we can drive eight hours I think eight hours
any single way and you only come across one town, wow,
any direction, and like to get people from towns that
are so far spread out to come to one place

(01:43:00):
to do something like protests. That's why the protests never
really take off here because everything is so far away
from each other that you have all these mini protests
in the city, but you never have a massive protest
in a city. You never have like the Canada trucks
or like you know what I mean, There's nothing that
makes a massive difference anywhere because everyone is so far apart.

(01:43:20):
Whereas during the COVID stuff, the anti lockdown protests were massive.
They had hundreds of thousands of people camped out on
the on the front.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Step of the Parliament for days.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Like they used there's people still today having health effects
from the electromagnetic weapons that they used on them. Really
during those protests. Yeah, yeah, it was massive, and it's
like it's probably the biggest thing we've ever seen in
Australia when it comes to like protesting and stuff. Yeah,

(01:43:55):
literally one of the biggest things we've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
Yeah, in Iraq, we used something called a l RAD,
which was a long range audio. It just made this
ungodly sound and you chased people away.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Yeah, and and there was so they used l RAT
and then they had one of the vehicles that made
your skin feel like it was burning. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
I can't remember what technology that is, but yeah, they
used that as well on the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
People vehicle that makes your skin burn. Nothing comes up
on that. I'll have to check that out. But it
is a shame that, you know, all the technology we have,
much of it get used against us. So much time
and energy gets used into making bombs and you know that,

(01:44:48):
Like you were talking about things that can burn your
skin and things like that. Is there anything else that
you were working on that you wanted to talk about?

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
So I think there's there's a well, there's a few
things in the works. Fingers crossed that we get everything
where it needs to be to be able to start
start doing podcasts again.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
But I think I think I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
Just gonna I'm trying to take it slow because the
last time I did it was super unprepared and I
really wish I'd been a bit more organized and done
a few things differently, mostly just because of the kids
and stuff like that. Trying to be consistent is really
hard because I have to be consistent with them first.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Yeah, of course, but there was.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
Yes, hello, hello, are we what happened? Sorry?

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
Give me one second?

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
Yeah, worries somebody should be asleep already, by the way,
that's why she's sad, and it's OUI. Everything is OUI
because she needs to be asleep. But yeah, so like
like I, like you just saw, like the kids. The
kids are definitely still like just that too too young
to be able to be super self sufficient and not
need mum all the time. So I'm trying to make

(01:45:58):
a little bit more of a plan to get the
way they need to be before I commit to everything.
But fingers crossed, there's plans in the books.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Well that's awesome. Make sure you come back when you
have that going, because we definitely you're just a plethora
of knowledge. And how long would I'll ask you these
two questions, how long have you been awake? And what
kind of led you to waking up?

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
I genuinely don't know the answer to that question, but
I remember I don't know. I've always had these weird, like,
these weird realizations ever since I was a kid. I
remember sitting in the pews of this massive Christian church
when I was like five, I think it would have
been four.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
Or five, and I just started reading.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
I'd like just been able to read, and the whole
time I'd been listening to the preachers while I'm sitting
on the floor drawing and stuff as kids do, right,
And I remember hearing I remember hearing him talk about
the Son of God, and in my naivete because I
was only a kid and I didn't read at that point,
I just automatically assumed he was talking about the sun,
like the actual sun in the sky, right, And then

(01:46:59):
I remember that that I had the epiphany where I
read the word at the same time he said it,
and I just like my brain was like, what, like
what what is that? I don't know. I've always sort
of questioned things ever since I was a kid, Like,
I've always had these weird moments where like whether or
not you want to call it God or I would

(01:47:20):
call it God, I would call it the guidance. That
guidance has always been with me for some reason, and
I've never been one to conform with everything around me.
I've always been a bit of a rebel and a
bit of a rule breaker, and I think it took
me a long time to realize that that's what Jesus
was as well. So I rejected it, you know what

(01:47:42):
I mean, like and it led me down some really
dark paths. But when you start to embrace the fact
that God overturned tables in places that he didn't like
in the temples where he didn't think that things were
right and he didn't it was like what you said before, Yeah,
we have to be forgiving, but if we don't use
judgment in a righteous way, then what what are we

(01:48:03):
here for? You know what I mean? You have to
you have to use your judgment. Judgment is a God
given gift that if we do it in the right way,
and we do it in a righteous way. I think
that it should be I think it should be that way.
I think that's how God made us. We're supposed to
be able to do those things and be able to

(01:48:24):
choose the right thing versus the wrong thing, and it
in that way. I've always been a bit outspoken on
like things like I think Bradley Manning was my first
big thing, like where I kind of like latched onto
it and on knew everything inside and out about it.
I organized my first protest. I was like the main

(01:48:44):
speaker at the protest, and it was like, I don't know,
that's kind of where it catapulted into a into like
a involving other people in my train of thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
I've always been kind of a wake in a rebel though.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
You know, it's funny you mentioned that. I remember when
I was in the Army and the whole bad Bradley
Manning thing dropped and all of us thought he was
just a trader, right, and because you're in the military
and you know, and then after I retired, because I
think that happened towards the end, it was like twenty ten,

(01:49:21):
twenty eleven. And then years later, after I was out
of the Army, I actually watched the videos and I realized,
and I'm not going to call him a she because.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
I would never call him Chelsea.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Yeah, but he did what we're supposed to do. He
saw a crime that was committed, people tried to cover
it up, and you know, he reached out to I
guess the songe right, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
And that's what led me down the ass rabbit hole
as well. So that was like that's where I became
way more public.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
And it was crazy. This is how big it was. Was.
They actually originally charged him with hitting the enemy.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Which is crazy to the Yeah, it treat them they yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
Which would have resulted in the death penalty.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
Yeah, and they were going to kill him, yep. And
they would have killed him if no one had paid
attention to that. George, you tell me that that man
would not be dead right now, yep. Absolutely, Like somehow
he got he got a lucky hook because anyone else,
they would have just thrown him in Gitmo and waited
until he died, staffed him to death, killed him by
doing whatever they do to them in there, you know

(01:50:30):
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Yeah, Yeah, they spent seven years in jail.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
Yeah. Well, and then and then he had to he
had to claim all these mental health issues and all
this stuff. Like I think that's what led him down
the trends thing, because he's he knew that that would
get him LENI and see to get out, because how
terrible would that be being in there, Like knowing that
you were doing the right and listen, I think, I
think I think about that stuff all the time because

(01:50:58):
the world we live in today, the stuff that me
and you talk about now could one day be a
jailable offense. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
Am I willing to sit in at jails for my beliefs.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
In our lifetime? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent? And it's getting closer and
closer to that D day. And I say it all
the time, like to anyone, anyone that we're having this
conversation with, I'm like, well, what happens when they make
speech illegal? What happens when when they throw me in
a cellar? Are you going to fight back? Like because

(01:51:29):
or are you going to be too scared and you're
going to hide in your hovel? You know, you're going
to hide in your little cave hole and never come
out and just working nine to five and Kaylor.

Speaker 3 (01:51:37):
Never existed or George never existed?

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
You know what I mean this?

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
Well, we saw that, We saw that with the January
sixth people we got on the internet. We yelled about it,
but we didn't do anything for them.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
Yeap, And well and see like there's there's certain they're
out now. Yes, But I think I think there was
a bigger plan. I think there was a bigger plan
behind the people that were screaming about that, because, like you,
you were talking to them, like people were still talking
to them. There was still a very there was a
big enough group of people that were willing to stand.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
Up for them and their rights. Yeah, sure that they
were always going to get them back.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
Yep, don't you know what I mean? I talked to
Jeremy Brown two or three times from prison.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Yeah, yeah, I thought I remembered that. I thought I
remember those phone goals. But I think that that's I
think that that's the key, right, Like, if you're going
to speak up, speak loud, and don't hesitate, don't you can't.
You can't let your foundations be loose underneath your feet
because otherwise you'll never have people that And you have
to be truthful.

Speaker 3 (01:52:40):
You have to be full of truth.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
And if you don't do that, then you'll get caught
in the undertoe and you'll just become another name on
a statistic that no one will ever see, you know
what I mean. And some people it's like, what's that saying?
What's that saying about the tree and the seed? A
man plants a seed and knows that he'll never sit
under the shade of the tree.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
Is it true?

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Is the true hero?

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
Because you plant the seed today and in ten years
time there's going to be an oak there that saves
someone's life with its shade, you know, and you'll never
sit under that shade. You'll be gone before then. You
know that it's going to do it for someone else.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
And there's many examples in the Bible that tell us
that if you speak truth that you're going to be persecuted.
So it's better to just accept it and speak truth
rather than worry about repercussions from men.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
Yeah, because it's the yeah. Yeah, like world percussions have
no that they can break you in an earthly way,
but if you stand true, they won't. If what you've
done is truthful and it's righteous and it's solid, you
will never be broken by man's punishment upon you. That's

(01:53:54):
genuinely the fight for your soul at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
It is, and that's what that's what all this is about.
It's not about you know, all the wealth, the money,
all of those things are tools, but but the the
the the the king of all battles is the spiritual
battle right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
Yeah, every day of the week, I've actually I've actually interesting,
I've I've been laid down.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
Do you know who Andrew Wilson is.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
I've heard of the name.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
Yeah, he's like, he's a really really good debater. He's
super intelligent.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
I really like him. He's he's he's a pretty he's
an interesting human. Like I've started watching a few months back.
I started watching something called the Whatever podcast because I
really like I like social I like learning about where
people are socially right. And that's the like six seven
eight hour shows mind you how where they have this, Yeah,

(01:54:47):
they have this panel of girls and everything from only
fans and courtesans as they like to call themselves, and
like occasionally he'll have a guy on there as well,
but usually the guy are pretty based in christian and
Andrew is an Orthodox Christiana And watching watching how, watching

(01:55:09):
how these girls are in today's intol George makes my
brain hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
Some days.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
I'm watching these girls and I'm listening to and I'm like,
holy crap, we are so done for like and they
talk like oh but yeah, Andrew Andrew and his wife,
they bring a real good grounding to understanding, like the
the the way that feminism has ruined, like the roles
that we have in the world, and listening to some

(01:55:37):
of these girls like on of and stuff like OnlyFans
and stuff like that, like talk and there's just he
calls them degenerates. He literally will just sit there and
be like you're degenerate, like ill, like are you kidding me?
Like what? And listening but watching the social side of things,
I'm really I'm really into that at the moment, just
watching how everyone is socially and I use that to

(01:55:58):
measure where we are in the world sometimes, you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
Know, it's a very good measuring stick.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
Absolutely super and the way that they question these girls
is insane.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
It's so interesting to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
And you can watch like one panel will be like
super based right Christian. Some of them virgins like waiting
to start their families, like they don't want to be
boss bitches, they don't want to be alone with their
cats by the time they're forty, you know what I mean,
And these other these other women like that. It's mind
blowing how much it's changed over the course of a

(01:56:30):
year as well, Like a year ago, you would have
never seen, Like if you watched a show from a
year ago, you would have never seen any conservative women
on this on these panels ever, they were all they
were the only ones that would come on.

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
Were only fans girls.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
And all these degenerate girls literally like that would had
nothing going for them except for their careers.

Speaker 4 (01:56:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
And now you've watched this like slowly, this slow evolution
where you get like it started with like a couple
here and there, there'd be a couple of conserves ladies
on there. Now all of a sudden, there's full panels
and the show is boring because there's no like, what
are you doing? You degenerate?

Speaker 3 (01:57:07):
They're all talking like real, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
They're all being like, yeah, well I'm gonna have a husband.
I want to do this. I want to be a homemaker.
I want to be a wife. I want to be
you know what I mean. I want kids, I want
all these wholesome things that we're actually built to want,
right like the world has demonized those things in women's eyes.
And it's really sad watch, but I'm really into watching
the anthropology of it at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
It's so good. It's such a good measuring stick.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Yeah, for sure, And you know that the whole feminization
and that movement started with Berne's and the freedom torches
back and you know, one hundred years ago. And it's
interesting that his great nephew is the one who runs
Netflix today. So this whole mind control through movies, through music,
especially through music and people. I think miss that how

(01:57:54):
you know, things and money are you know, should be
number one priority in your life, and that's you know,
and listen, my generation, the eighties, we were known as
the Age of excess, right, and that is what distorts
people's priorities and is one of the reasons that things
like Only Fans allows, you know, not only to exist,

(01:58:16):
but my goodness, I've you know, I've seen articles with
how much money these people make, and you see Mames
on Twitter talking about you know, I get up to
work every morning at five am to go work eight
hours a day, while some girl and Only Fans is
making what I make in a day or in a year,

(01:58:38):
she makes in a day. But that is really if
you look at the Bible, you know, those who struggle
and we're meant, right, Adamsond, go till your fields the
rest of your time. You're really shorting yourself. And I
wonder what these girls are going to feel like whether
it's the Bonnie whatever her name.

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
Is, who Bonnie Blue?

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
Oh my goodness, these people I mean, and I get
it too when I was young and stupid, right, I
don't want to sit here and pretend that I always
you gain wisdom because of the mistakes you make. But
some of these mistakes that are accepted as normal today
just blows my.

Speaker 1 (01:59:16):
Mind, absolutely blows everything that you or I ever did
as little degenerate. No, you know nothing, you know what
I mean, Like the word degenerate was never met for
people like us, like I think, I think you're whites.
They did this play at the church that I used
to go to in the US when I was a kid,

(01:59:37):
and it was called the Heaven Hell Play, and I
had this id like I had. They would show like
people going through things like whether it was drugs or
sex or anything like that, right, and they would it
would depict like humans having human like human things happened
to them, and it would like like the demons and
the devil would pop out of the ground and grab

(01:59:58):
them and drag them the hell or like then like
like the angels would come and say come up to
Heaven or whatever, depending on how they existed, right, And
I've always seen it like that, like the devil has
created a highway because he wants as many people on
it as he can.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
But you had to put you had to put the
tarmac down, You had to get the chemicals to put
that down. You had to build it. He had to
build it, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:00:21):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
Whereas the path that we usually take on the road
to Christ is usually in a forest, in a dense,
dense forest where there's there's rocks on the ground, your barefoot.
You're not in a car on tarmac and it's a
smooth ride. It is. It's hard, but you get tough
by the end of it. You're tough. Your feet have

(02:00:42):
calluses on them. You don't need to wear shoes. You
could run across those rocks and not get one one
cut on the bottom of your foot.

Speaker 4 (02:00:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
But those people that step out of that car from
that like, from that tarmac, onto the road their feet
a week, they've got no resistance, They've got no they've
got no umph in their step, you know what I mean.
They've got no they've got no way to direct themselves
to where they need to go in that forest. They
don't know how to follow the path because the path

(02:01:11):
was always.

Speaker 3 (02:01:11):
Written for them. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
There's no gold, there's no it's survival, you know what
I mean. And I think I think that's I think
that's a really, really good point you made, because it's true,
like the road with Lucifer is always a highway, and
it's always easy. It's easy to make bad decisions. It's
hard to be a good person in today's world. And
I think that that's the true that's the true lesson

(02:01:37):
in it be able to look up at the trees
while you're while you're toughening up your feet on these
rocks on this path to where you know it's going
to be a kingdom.

Speaker 3 (02:01:46):
You know what I mean, You're gonna You're gonna have
a kingdom.

Speaker 1 (02:01:48):
Because you've built it with your feet. You know, your
mute you're.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
Muted, Yes I am. You know. One of my squad
leaders always used to say, you know, it's always easier
to choose what is it, the easy wrong over the
hard right. And that's life, like in a snapshot, it's
what it is right. Because if we had everything that
tasted good, we'd all be four hundred pounds right, if
we all ate milkshakes and pizza things we like to
eat versus a garden salad and a four ounce steak

(02:02:21):
cooked medium, and you know, all of these other.

Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
Things sounds really good.

Speaker 2 (02:02:25):
I said that. I'm like, oh man, I'd love a steak.
But you know what I mean by examples, the candy,
the pizza, the soda, right, all of the things that
that we have a sweet tooth for versus eating healthy
and exercising. That's life in general, right, the hard right
over the easy wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:02:41):
Yeah, And I think that's that's that's what we just
need to keep our minds on at this point in history,
because I think that's going to be the fact that
we can survive. That's that's the most important part, right,
is being able to survive what's coming and knowing that
no matter what happens, the end, the end result, the

(02:03:02):
end result is always going to be that we're saved.
That's what we that's what we've fought for, you know
what I mean, That's why we walked that hard road.

Speaker 2 (02:03:15):
YEP.

Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
I just hope that more people come to that point.

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
I hope so too, And I hope Christians, if you're
listening or followers of Christ because I don't even I
use the word followers of Christ now, the words follower
of Christ now because Christian has become so loose. Right,
I'm a Christian and my name is you know, Clarissa.
I'm a lesbian pastor, and my pronouns are you know
what I'm saying, And I'm just like check please, yeah,

(02:03:41):
And that's why I follow Christ. I follow the Bible.
I don't follow I don't write. I told you about
you know my what my path is right now and
planning a non denominational church that strictly just follows the Bible,
not a hierarchy of deacons and this and that the
other thing. Who wants to talk about secular things more

(02:04:03):
than just about the Bible. And I wish more Christians
would speak out and be uncomfortable because if you're too comfortable,
that probably means you're not doing enough, Right Is that
fair to say? I just mentioned, you know, for these people,

(02:04:24):
if they're too comfortable, they're probably not doing enough, whether
it's you know, sharing the Gospel of Jesus or just
speaking truth of you know, the things we've spoken about
over the last two hours.

Speaker 3 (02:04:35):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
I think that I think being comfortable is definitely a
symptom of not doing enough.

Speaker 2 (02:04:42):
Amen. It's been an incredible two hours, and again we're
twelve hours apart from each other. You're out there in
Western Australia, and I really chaerish the friendship we've had
over the many, many years, and I hope we can
do this again in the near future and certainly keep
us up to date when you get your new podcast
up and going. But before we go, was there anything

(02:05:04):
else that you wanted to mention or say to the audience?

Speaker 1 (02:05:08):
I no, I wanted to say thank you for having
me back. Hi everyone, I missed you all, and I
hope everyone is doing really really well. I just I
really hope everyone is on their path and doing the
things that they need to be doing to make their hope,
their families happy, and them happy, and just loving their

(02:05:29):
immediate surroundings, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:05:31):
Like being part of a family is one of the.

Speaker 1 (02:05:33):
Most rewarding and hard things that you'll ever be and
it's worth every minute of it, and I hope everyone
is enjoying that for themselves.

Speaker 2 (02:05:42):
I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you so
much for your time, and God bless you. And your
beautiful family, and keep in touch and I look forward
to hearing when you decide to start your new podcast
and whatever else the future brings you. Thank you so
much for your time. We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:00):
Thank you, George, Thank you for having me as always.
I really missed you guys. Missed you mate. It's really
nice to see you.

Speaker 2 (02:06:07):
Miss you too, and all the people. We've got so
many emails all the time to this day, it's just
like a week ago. Where's Kayler.

Speaker 1 (02:06:15):
I'm right here. I was always here.

Speaker 3 (02:06:16):
I'm in the most isolated city in the world.

Speaker 2 (02:06:19):
So and I should talk. I don't know if but
I don't know if you have an email or if
there's a way the listeners want to reach out to you.
You can let me know after the podcast or go ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:06:30):
Absolutely, it's always it's always the same. It's the ancient
resistant army. Resistance Army email is still open and accepting emails.

Speaker 2 (02:06:38):
All right, cool, I'll put that in the show notes
as well. God bless you.

Speaker 3 (02:06:42):
Awesome. I'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 4 (02:06:47):
I'm not it's been a struggle.

Speaker 1 (02:06:51):
I don't know you've had. I'm not the.

Speaker 7 (02:06:59):
Hell down all the way.

Speaker 4 (02:07:02):
Yeah, don't you feel more.

Speaker 7 (02:07:07):
Your smile ain't the same.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
I saw wall go from You feel like.

Speaker 7 (02:07:15):
You've lost your way.

Speaker 1 (02:07:20):
Don't give it, No, don't give it, and never this home.

Speaker 2 (02:07:25):
Don't let call the primis He ain't done yet. He's
got up, glad. Why it's away?

Speaker 1 (02:07:33):
Time got up? May me come?

Speaker 4 (02:07:39):
Why wait?

Speaker 6 (02:07:42):
God baby came.

Speaker 4 (02:07:50):
I can see the straight beside you. Child's are putting
up five. Oh, you're stronger that I think you.

Speaker 1 (02:08:02):
Guy.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
You're gonna be all right.

Speaker 4 (02:08:06):
You're accepting a dead valued.

Speaker 2 (02:08:10):
Beautiful. You're shoving bride.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
Yeah, you're living, breathing, move.

Speaker 7 (02:08:18):
You can hold your head of phide. Don't give up, No,
don't give in, never lose home, don't.

Speaker 2 (02:08:30):
Let gone on the primise, it ain't done.

Speaker 4 (02:08:33):
And this god a plant wat some way town, the
god of me, because don't give up, No, don't give in.

Speaker 2 (02:08:44):
You never lose home.

Speaker 1 (02:08:45):
Don't let go on the promise. It ain't don.

Speaker 2 (02:08:49):
Of life, it's worth living. Wat's a way town, the.

Speaker 5 (02:08:54):
God may cold.

Speaker 2 (02:09:00):
What's the play down the god?

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
Oh yeah, what's the play down?

Speaker 6 (02:09:09):
The god?

Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
Baby? Oh yeah, you got.

Speaker 7 (02:09:28):
Don't give up, no, don't give in. Never, So do
they go of the primis Ian and dune yas got
a plan? What kind of even caught? Don't give no
dog giving? Never it's home, don't they go of.

Speaker 1 (02:09:50):
The tribe's it ain't done?

Speaker 7 (02:09:53):
Other's worth living? What's the god of heaven? Call all
the god of needles?

Speaker 1 (02:10:12):
White dun god of.

Speaker 2 (02:10:22):
You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
Just the facts, ma'amy.

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