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Here is your host, George Hobbs.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time
for a special edition of The Fact on our podcast.
As I record on this early afternoon Friday, September twelfth,
twenty twenty five, I just wanted to take some time
to reflect over the last twenty four hours. Obviously, for
several weeks I was planning my September eleventh podcast, and
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then September tenth changed all that. And I'm glad in
retrospect that I came from a very empathetic standpoint because
there are many truthers out there that don't exactly have
a keen sense of tact. And again, I'm not telling
other people what to say, hey, but to do how
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to act. I'm just talking as far as my actions.
I'm glad I presented it the way I did because
it was very much a psychological operation to get people
to feel a certain way. And the more and more
as you analyze what the media is trying to orchestraight,
especially on social media, you'll see you know, this school
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teacher said this here in Delaware, in a school district
twenty minutes away from us. There was a teacher who
went on to social media and praised Charlie Kirk's death.
And now the parents are outraged. It's outrage after outrage,
and you know, maybe we are on more of a
tinder box than I originally thought. Hopefully cooler heads prevail
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and the actual people who were behind this are held accountable.
And as we know, the official narrative is that police
have arrested a suspect and the assassination of Charlie Kirk
identified as Tyler Robinson, a twenty two year old Utah resident.
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And here's the questions that I didn't hear at the
press conference. Now listen, I was doing things, didn't hear
the whole thing. So if I missed it, correct me again.
Email is thefacthunter at mail dot com. Where did he
get his rifle? Where did he get his scope? Where
did he go to zero? What range did he go
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to to zero his scope? Like those type of questions
you don't for those who have never shot before. You
don't go to the store and grab a scope and
put it on and it works the same forever user.
You have to zero your scope the same way you
zero your iron sights. Three clicks to the right, one
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click to the left, up down, Kentucky Wendage, all those
type of things. And the story is his father apparently
works with the Sheriff's department. I think it's Washington County, Utah,
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a twenty seven year veteran. I'm not sure if he's
still with them. I did a little research, and again
this is all right, real time investigation. Couldn't find a
lot of information on him. Try to look at the
local free and by all means, if you guys, you know,
look at the local Mason chapters in Utah, see if
you can find any connections between those who work right
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either at the university or the police, Sheriff's department, those
involved that there's a tie with the local Masonic lodges there.
But the official story is this twenty two year old
young man shot Charlie.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Kirk and escaped.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So we're going to start with a couple of emails. Again,
this is from just use first names, and he had
mentioned that he wanted to let me know. Obviously, as
I opened the podcast yesterday, I said I wasn't super
familiar with Charlie Kirk. Obviously, I knew who he was,
the characters of him, and I believe he was on
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South Park recently. I thought he was kind of like
a big YouTuber, right, but in the email, I'm told
he as far as MAGA and the Christian right. He
was as big as Martin Luther King was to the
black community and the anti war community of the nineteen sixties.
He was everywhere on YouTube, Facebook, and was famous for
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standing against abortion and illegal immigration. And that is something
obviously that I touched on yesterday. That's the real holocaust.
And it just amazed me how they can manipulate the people. Oh,
we're going to change our logo. You know, people go berserk. Man,
Where's where's that energy when it comes to abortion right
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And a lot of people were visibly upset. I spoke
to a family member today, very upset. But we should also,
as Randy said, cry for our nation because of this
trauma based mind control that is being implemented on the
American psyche. And this whole left right battle will be
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strengthened by this. The divide will be further and this Sunday,
this weekend, it'll be in the churches as well. It's
very divisive point. And I also think, as I think
I mentioned yesterday, it could very much be a tool
to try to convince the right that maybe, just maybe
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we need a little bit of gun control. And you
guys know, just as soon as they get their foot
in the door, it's all over, like the Patriot.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Another email.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I've got so many, I can't just read them all
because there's other things I want to cover. Pardon me,
and I don't have a whole lot of time. But
this is Marshall again his first name, and he said
he's been listening since the COVID years. It's a long time,
so thank you very much, brother, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
He said.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I wanted to shed a little more light on the
reaction to the assassination from the point of view of
our younger audience. He says, twenty four years old, grew
up with faithful, God fearing and Jesus loving parents who
taught me the ways of Christ and to read the Bible.
Graduated college in twenty twenty three, got married the same year.
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Growing up as a young man in these crazier times,
which is something as us older folks we have to
remember these younger folks. I mean they were born into
nine to eleven and the financial collapse of eight War Afghanistan, Iraq, Obama, Covid.
My goodness, we have to keep that in mind. So again,
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growing up as a man in these crazier times, there
are so few voices you can really count on to
express your voice. And to be completely honest, I would
not have even said I was a huge fan of
Charlie Kirk before September the tenth. He wasn't perfect, and
he definitely struggled to move past the basic ingrained beliefs
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in Israel that I once had to myself. But I
do believe he truly feared God, and I agree Marshall.
He wanted to love his wife and family and make
a difference for the Kingdom of Christ. And by all evidence,
without any doubt, a young man at the age of
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thirty one accomplished a lot, and he did bring a
lot of people to Christ. And as he said, he
didn't get everything right. It's impossible to truly assign motive,
whether ignorant, deceived, or cowardly. But there was a thing
he was never cowardly about was I always respected him for,
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and it was for his defense of Christ. In a
time when you hear so many politicians throwing around the
term God with zero mention of the god they actually serve.
And that is one of my pet beeves breaking away
for the email for a second. There's a senator somebody's
trying to get a bill, you know, one nation under
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God back.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
In the schools or something like that.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And I replied, I quoted, And I replied, if you
really want to make a difference words count, it should
say one nation under Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
Because anybody can say, praise God, I love God. Well,
what God do you worship? Do you worship our God?
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Do you worship our Father, the Father of our of
Jesus Christ, or do you worship Moloch or some Canaanite
Babylonian saturnalia.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Marsia.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
You know, yeah, Marshall, it's it right on the head here.
Zero mention of the god they actually serve, and they
show zero effort to actually show any fruit of the
spirit and mention the man Jesus Christ, whom there is
no other way to the Father except through him. And
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again the Ted cruisers and these guys will quote Genesis,
old Covenant stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
They don't know the Bible. The fact is they know it.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
But again, I don't know if I mentioned this yesterday,
But if if you want to know about Ted Cruz,
research his father. That's all you got to do. He's
part of the club. Look at his father. Look what
he was involved in in the sixties. End of conversation,
the end. Charlie was different. He was not afraid to
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proclaim the name of Jesus Christ and his gospel. Out
of all the shills and puppets out there, I think
Charlie was different. And I couldn't think of more of
an effective and poignant target to cut down in this
way like Charlie Kirk, a father and a husband for
grabbing the attention of the young right like this, and
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he was I didn't realize it. My wife and I
were both shaken deeply. I think partly because in some
way we both watched it live. My brother texted me
he was shot while I was at work. I immediately
went to X to look through the feed and I
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see the initial video same as everyone else. I see
he's in critical condition, and then you see he was
shot right in front of his children.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And I too, and I didn't even know the guy right.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
You are overwhelmed with emotion when you see something like that, right,
not the trump theatrics, and pray to God, prayed for Charlie,
prayed for his family, prayed for peace and comfort, and
then several minutes later, found out.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
He was dead.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I'm horrible, says I don't really believe there was ever
a moment like that in my lifetime, that sensational. I
was only a few months old when nine to eleven happened.
I'm pretty sure I will always remember where I was
when I heard the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I too
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have more questions and answers, and know well enough to
remain steadfast in the Lord and to keep my head
on a swivel, not letting my emotions or the media
direct me, but only Christ. That's what I replied to
a listener yesterday. So keep your head on a swivel,
in your heart in Christ. Not sure how it will
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play out, but I thought I would just share my
thoughts as a younger man growing up in this weird
social media era.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
God bless you.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
There you go, And that's two of I think over
fit And just just now another email came through. It's insane.
Thank you all, God bless you, and we're going to
work through this together. We're going to get to the
bottom of it. And with that being said, we're going
to transition into some kind of clues that I found.
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But I also want to mention there are some other
pieces of evidence that I am not ready to mention yet.
It's not I'm not trying to like leave a teaser.
You must listen Tuesday, but I'm just not prepared some
of the names that we're going to name in some
of the companies that we're going to mention. I feel
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like we need a better We should have our p's
and q's in order before we kind of start talking
about these things. You know, I need to make sure
I dot my eyes and cross my t's before our
I start mentioning names and corporations. With that being said,
let's move on and again, thank you off for your
emails thefact hunter atmail dot com. During the press conference,
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Cash Pattel said, a certain number that we have mentioned, oh,
ten thousand times on this podcast.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
In thirty three hours, we have made historic progress for Charlie.
Governor Cox. Did you hear that in thirty three in
thirty three hours, we have made historic progress for Charlie.
Governor Cox, our partnership has been absolutely incredible these last
few days. Our partnership will endure.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
And remember, this young man was turned in by his father.
The FBI didn't find him, the police didn't find him,
his father turned him in. I think the story goes
something like the father notes him from the picture, called
a clergy member. They came over, talked to him, convinced
him to turn himself in. The FBI didn't find him.
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But if you listen to the hour long press interview,
they're patting themselves on the back like they did something.
And then once again another governor hijacking a situation to
advance his political career, and speaking of.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
He tips the cap to thirty three as well.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Is now in custody and we'll be charged soon and
we'll be held accountable. And yet all of us have
an opportunity right now to do something different. I want
to thank my fellow Utah's. You know, this bad stuff happens,
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and for thirty three hours.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Oh I'm sorry, I thought you said thirty three.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
For thirty three hours.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Oh you did? You reinforced it? So you really want
to get on the big stage, both of you guys.
And when I freeze the picture on this video and
I'll put the links in the show notes, you guys
can check it out. Cash has a you know what
eating grin on his face. As the governor Cox I
believe his name is c o X is saying thirty three.
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And of course he goes on. And you know how
politicians are, they can't stop listening to themselves. But wait,
there's more. Yesterday I introduced you to a gentleman named
George Zinn. He was the one who was arrested when
right after Kirk was shot, he jumped up and down
said it was me, it was me, read me my rights,
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which gave the real shooter time to get away.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Did you know that this guy George's in my computer
slow today?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Now?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
This story is dated April twenty fourth, twenty thirteen. Man
charged with terroristic threat for email sent to the Boston Marathon.
I'm sorry the Salt Lake City Marathon, but this was
the Boston Marathon. Bombing happened on April the fifteenth, twenty thirteen,
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so a couple days later when this article was written.
This guy, the same guy who said arrest me, arrest
me emailed the Salt Lake City Marathon organized if he
could help set up bombs at the finish line. George
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Zin fifty nine told investigators he didn't mean anything by
sending an email to the marketing director of the marathon
asking quote, I was wondering if you needed anybody to
help place bombs near the finish line on Saturday. But
Salt Lake City District Attorney Sam Gills had given the
level of concern around the country following the bombings at
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the Boston Marathon that killed three and entered one point
seventy are taken seriously. There are things you just can't
engage in. Zen was charged in district court with threats
of terrorism, a second degree felony. Gil acknowledged that Zen
is well known to law enforcement, though he declined specifically
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to talk about Zen's case and whether he actually had
explosive devices or intended to obtain them. So there's a
tie to the Boston Marathon. The same guy, but it
gets even crazier. This guy goes on the major Brent
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Taylor Foundation. So this major Brent Taylor Foundation has thirty
six subscribers, and there's different people. Rod Arke at a
radio Horse radio host. Sorry, I've been up. I got
very little sleep last night. One hundred and four views.
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The average view of this of all these different individuals
talking about Remembering nine to eleven, eight views, five US
Senator Mitt Romney thirty six views. And then just in
the last couple of hours, we find that George Zin
sits down and talks about his story nine to eleven,
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two thousand and one.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
You know, it was an interesting time when I went to.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
I was at Denver just on September tenth.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Twenty, two thousand and one, and I'm a huge Broncos fan,
so I was it was the opening night of the
Denver Broncos Stadium. I went down there and we were
playing the Giants that night, and.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
So it was a huge event for us. I even
remembered everything that happened.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
We opened the stadium on September tenth, two thousand and one,
and so you know, I was We won the Giants,
which was good.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
I remember that was when a.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
McCaffrey actually got herd that night on a season ending injury.
And so I'm ready to go leave the hotel on
September eleventh, thirty that morning and go back.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
To Salt Lake City and they said, come down, look
in the lobby. Something's happening here. They said, there's a
plane that's headed towards one of the towers in New
York City. And we're just glued. Everybody in the lobby
is just going, wow, this is pilot era. What's going
on here? You know. It was very confusing.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
And we see that that plane go in and we
just think, wow, you.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Know, and then I think it was what a nine
to twelve or.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
Something like that, that that second plane hit that tower.
Immediately chaos in that hotel lobby. There was everybody was
on cell phones, people had friends, family, everybody they you know,
knew in New York.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And we just said, oh, you know, that's got to
be something that's that's that's terrorist attacked or something like that.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
We were quite sure, we.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
Thought, because you know, there's been attacked like several years
earlier in the basement of that town.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
We thought that, well, this was the same guy that
had come in and just kind of finished the job.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
And uh so, you know, Denver immediately turned.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Now Denver does have a World Trade Center, but it's
it's really not.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Uh on the same level as the one in New York. City.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
I mean it's just, uh, it's just an operating facility.
That's just uh business facility. So I don't think it
had any kind of particular attraction towards.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
What was happening at the time. But I go down
in Denver downtown, you know, to see what's going on,
and uh, it really had to hit people, I mean people.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
It was kind of business as usual for a while,
and then that night they had frozen all the airplanes
and all the flights out. I couldn't get home, so
I was stuck a little bit longer, I think at
least two or three days longer, uh in Denver, and
UH was just glued to my TV, just wondering what
was what was always happening because you know, we just
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didn't know exactly that, you know that it was exactly
a terrorist to try.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
We did to have some idea, you know, there was
something going on, because we dealed with being laiden before.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
In separate instances, so we did suspect that it was
al Kaeda involved in that.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
I've since been to Ground Zero at least twice. The
first time they were just they were just barely cleaning up.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
I think I was there two years later up in
New York City.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
I was with the I was.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
I went up there for the We actually had the
National Republican Convention up in New York, and I went
up for the.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
National Convention and just got to see a little bit
of ground zero.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
In fact, our headquarters was right across the street of
the Marriott Hotel, and we could over we could oversee
what was going on there.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
We could see some of the workers and the things
that were going on. Just very sad.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Couldn't be very very close to it because they were
still cleaning the place up and it was still it
was still a recovery effort.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Uh. And so what I did, and uh, I left
a little remn.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
I left a little note on you know, I left
a I drew a f American flag.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
They had a wall around there where people could leave
different messages or whatever they wanted, you know about loved ones.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
And while I drew an American flag and UH gave 'em.
I'd again upset whatever and God bless America. And uh.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Then I went back, I think a few years later,
and I noticed they had blackened over the entire uh
uh memorial wall with pain and I.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Felt very sad that uh they had taken everybody's sentiments
and just uh uh.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
Basically just but there was no way they could keep
it anyway cause it was just the temporary wall and
they wanted to put.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
That uh memorial up there.
Speaker 9 (23:46):
So you know, basically that's my experience with what I
went through with nine to eleven.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I really didn't have anybody I knew that was up there,
but uh, the feeling of you know, I changed America orherever.
I just you know, I just unbelievable with.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
The amount of patriotism we saw, you know, flags in
every every window, and you know I did for that
short period of time.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
I just wish that it could just stay that way.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Somebody said that they haven't seen that kind of unity
in the in the country since Pearl Harbor in nineteen
forty one, and when we were brought together in that
kind of thing.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
And anyway, God bless America. It was a great it was.
I can't say it's a great experience. It was an
experience all always remember.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
And that's kind of my story as far as where
I was.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah, so none of that happened, George, But that's the
psychological state that George Zen is whatever word you would
use to categorize what he is. That's the type of
person that the CIA that would work perfect for an
MK ultra. Again, you're talking about a guy who is
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able to contrive a story and share it with a
major Brent Taylor Foundation, who gets arrested for emailing the
Salt Lake City Marathon a day or two after the
Boston Marathon bombing. Right, hey, can I help you? Guys
plant bombs at the end of the finish line, and
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the same guy who was detained after falsely admitting to
shooting Charlie Kirk Right, the shot rings out, he jumps up,
it was me, it was me, read me my rights.
There's no there are no coincidences. The comments greetings from
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Spain noticers and look at all the replies, Hello, fellow noticer.
People are waking up. The fact that this guy was
involved in both should tell you enough about these events.
This is a classical comment, and this is on the
YouTube video. I'll put in the show notes. Thank you,
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mister Zen for your audition to the Juilliard School, but
unfortunately we've passed.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
On you at this time. We wish you well with
your future endeavors.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Another person says downloaded and added to the Sloppy Job folder.
I'm going to need bigger hard drives at this rate.
And one person says they're going to scrub this soon.
So get this video, download it and put it in
your coincidence jar folder if you will. Right a couple
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for there. I had a couple more notes before we close.
I've got to get back to work. The cords of
the school forty north latitude one to eleven west longitude
gives you the four forty number.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Update.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
President Trump confirmed at four forty pm that Charlie Kirk
has died of his injuries. So there's a four to
forty in there. Very interesting as well. I think that's
about it for today. Spencer Cox was the governor of
Utah that was getting all that airtime. They'd love to
hear themself talk. Yeah, I think that's it for today.
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I'll get to work and I'll bring you more information
this coming Tuesday. But I wanted to share that with
you if you had any other thoughts that you would
like to share with myself. For the audience, it's the
fact Hunter at mail dot com. Again, it is the
fact Hunter at mail, not gmail dot com. Have a
wonderful weekend. Pray, pray for healing, Pray for cooler heads
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to prevail, and pray for a better tomorrow. And as
we say, keep your head on a swivel, your heart
and Christ God bless you all.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
We'll see you Tuesday. Have a great weekend. You're listening
to the Fact Hunter Radio Network, Just the Facts, Mammy