Episode 375: Nation or Corporation?

In this episode of The Fact Hunter, we expose how America shifted from a constitutional republic into a corporate system that treats its citizens as collateral. We trace the redefinition of “people” into “persons,” the corporate charters that shaped our nation, the Organic Act of 1871, the Federal Reserve takeover of 1913, and the bankruptcy of 1933. We show how "elites" shield themselves while ordinary Americans carry the burden—and why true freedom can only be found by anchoring ourselves in God’s Word, not man’s corporate fiction.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Here is your host, George Hobbs.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's time for a special Thursday edition of The Fact
on our podcast. As we record on this late right now,
it's about four thirty as we hit the record button
pm Eastern Standard Time on this Thursday, October twenty third,
twenty twenty five. Hope everybody's doing well. Another week just
about gone by as we enter the weekend. It's pretty

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unbelievable how fast time it goes. I know I probably
say that every week, but it just blows my mind
how fast everything is going. A lot of positive feedback
from the last couple of episodes. Greatly appreciate it. Today
we're going to take a little different, different road, and
it's something that I think we've talked about. It's something
that we've mentioned several times. The United States of America.

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Is it a nation or is it a corporation? Right?
What exactly is the United States of America? And again
I have to mention, this is not an all encompassing podcast.
It's impossible to touch every subject that is included in
the greater subject. If you will, but we're going to

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try to answer some basic questions at least, right, is
it the constitution, constitutional republic that we pledge allegiance to,
right built by we the people, as we're told, or
is it something else operating in plain sight? Is it
a corporate system that reveals and treats living men and
women not as people but as accounts, as assets and

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even collateral. And I know folks who have been in
the truth community for many years have heard, you know,
many YouTube videos and podcasts and people talk about this right,
and it's an interesting subject, but it's really hard to
nail down because much of it is, you know, written

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in the land of the law, and how many laws
have been passed over the last two hundred and fifty
years eighty eight thousand or some incredible amount, So it's
really hard to encompass everything. But when you really start
paying attention, when you start following the paper trails, the charters,

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the statues, the banking acts, right, the legal ease is
what we're really talking about here. You're going to find
a story that doesn't match the grade school civics lessons
that we got in late elementary, junior, high and even
in high school right where, once again I think the
greatest lie in this country is if you work hard enough.

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You know, if you do good in the school, and
if you do a few years in the military, you
can be president of the United States. Nothing could be
further from the truth. I'm here to tell you you've got
to bend your knee to some evil forces if you
want to be in the upper echelant of this government.
That's what I believe right now. Something that I heard

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a few weeks ago on another I think it was
a YouTube video somebody mentioning two words that seem harmless
until you start to drill down people versus person. Now,
one thing you'll understand in the history of our country
how the English itself was standardized and repackaged so that

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the same words carry different legal meanings than you think.
For instance, you bump into the Organic Act of eighteen
seventy one, and you've realized that it did far more
than draw this neat you know, municipal boundary around Washington, DC.
You study and look into the Federal Reserve Act of
nineteen thirteen, the bankrupt Emergency of the nineteen thirties, and

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then you truly start to see how the money and
the credit and the debt right, how it redefined citizenship
into a form of commercial participation. And you know, this
is one of those subjects that I've been working on
for years. And it's not just a tidy subject where

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you get some facts together and you kind of put
a bow on it. This subject is ever evolving. Why
because the laws are ever evolving. But one thing you
are left with when you've done peeling back the layers
of the onions is that the parasites at the top
they write the rules, they break the rules, and they

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themselves never pay the price. So we're going to unpack
this carefully, and we're going to compare the official story
versus what's really out there. Right, We're going to explore language,
words of power, and we've talked about that especially in
the last few weeks. People is the language of sovereignty

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in the plain reading of the founding documents. Person is
the language of jurisdiction in the world of codes and contracts. Now,
one suggests God given rights which we demand, but others
imply state mandated privileges. Okay, the more our public life

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migrated from the old common law mindset to this dense
web of statutes and administrative rules. The more that single
substitution mattered. It is how a free man with God
given rights becomes a regulated participant without ever even noticing
he crossed the line. Then we'll get into charters, a

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corporate structure, money, and more specifically, the leverage of debt. Right,
and we'll talk about the two Americas. Right, we'll talk
about accountability and why does it seem that the ruling
class or the parasitic class, whatever you want to call them,
they always escape it. We were promised nine years ago

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that there was going to be accountability and someone was
going to get locked up, and people still champion the
left and the right, thinking someone's going to get arrested, right,
And you always hear, oh this guy you got indicted.
These people never go to jail. It's a distraction. So

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you know, by the end of this series whether I
get it all in today or we make it a
two part. By the way, one of the reasons I'm
doing a Thursday episode is I'm not sure I'll be
able to do much on Tuesday. I'm getting a couple
of teeth pulled unfortunately, and I'm not sure I'm going
to have time Monday to do one prior to it's
very busy. So if I don't do one Tuesday, I'll

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get one out Wednesday or Thursday, for sure. But we're
going to give you enough details to decide. That's my hope.
That is, I'm able to give you enough details to
decide whether or not we live in a constitutional republic
that occasionally misbehaves, or do we really live inside a
corporate architecture, right, an oligarch that uses the republic as

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its brand identity? Right. If it's the latter, the next
question is unavoidable. We can't look past it. If the
United States of America is a corporation, well then who
owns the shares? Who sits on the board? And what
does that make you and I? If we're the shareholders,
we should be getting our shares back. We pay shares,

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We pay money every year, so how can we be shareholders?
All right? So let's jump into it. Okay, let's get
into the language and the definitions. So again, if the
in question is whether the United States functions as a corporation,
then the first step is answering, not looking at money

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or politics or even the charters. Okay, you have to
really start peeling the onion one ladder time, and it
starts with the definition of the language. Because in law,
the battle feel is words. Right, everything is contractual. Now
here's the thing that I never had even thought about before.

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But if you control the definition of a word, you
control the outcome of the case, the meaning of a contract,
and ultimately the status of the individual standing before the court. Okay, now,
let's get down to a very important shift that has
often overlooked, the meaning of people versus person. People in

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the plain language of the Declaration of Independence in the Constitution,
the people are sovereign. The people are sovereign, they exist
before the state. The rights come from God, not a statute.
We the people. Is not poetic flourish. It was supposed

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to have been this foundation of natural law. And again
one of the greatest conversations we have. You know, we're
our founding fathers. Really all of that or was it
just you know, the original packaging of the Patriot Act,
Because most of the people in the Thirteen Colleries, the

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Thirteen Colonies did not want any central government because they
know they're untouchable and they will abuse it. And they
were right. But I digress, Right, So what it means
is the men and women in their living, breathing form
are the source of political power. Now person again, that

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was people. Now we're talking about a person. In legal dictionaries,
person is not the same thing. Person is a legal entity.
Black Slaw Dictionary, and I've said this before on this program.
One of the most cited legal references in the United
States defines a person as an entity with legal rights

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and duties. That can mean a man or a woman,
but it can also mean a corporation, a trust, a partnership,
or even a government agency. In other words, a person
is a placeholder. It's a role you play within the system.
It's not your flesh and blood reality. Now, to many

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people the difference may sound subtle, but in legalese it
has massive consequences. If you treat as one of the people,
you are sovereign and protected by God given rights. If
you are treated as a person, you're an artificial subject
inside a commercial jurisdiction. The courts, the tax code, and

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the regulatory state operate on the assumption that you are
not standing before them as one of the people, but
as a legal person under their authority. It's eye opening, really,
when you sit down and understand it. So with the
power of legales, how did all this happen? Now? The

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answer lies, as always the gradual replacement of plain English
with legal leese. It's a specialized version of old English,
or I should say of English, I'm jumping ahead of myself.
That looks familiar but carries hidden definitions. Let's take two examples,

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the word driver and an ordinary conversation. A driver is
simply someone who operates a car, right, But historically, in
common law a driver meant someone engaged in commercial transportation,
someone for hire. So by redefining driver in statutes, now

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governments could require licenses and fees and tolls and regulation
from every individual behind the wheel, not just commercial operators.
Right because back in the day they could only claim
tolls on commercial operators. Back in the day, licenses were

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for commercial operators. But by redefining the word driver, everyone
came subject to require license, fees, tolls, plates registered, you know,
the whole ki kaboole. How about the word commerce Now,
Originally commerce met trade between parties or nations. Right In

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modern US law today, commerce is defined so broadly that
nearly every activity doesn't matter. If it's farming, crafting, intrastate
transactions is classified as commerce. What does that mean, Well,
it means it's subject to federal oversight. This is the

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sleight of hand that allows lawmakers and judges to stretch
jurisdiction far beyond what ordinary citizens believe is being discussed.
It's not that the words changed naturally. They were defined
strategically to expand control. So the transformation is not just

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about isolated words. The evolution of English itself played a role.
Old English common law carried it with assumptions about natural lights,
moral order, and divine authority over centuries. As English became
standardized through dictionary, statutes and court decisions, those older meetings

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were quickly retired. What survived was a streamlined, technical vocabulary
designed for administration, not liberty. So this is why researchers
and alternative historians argue that America didn't lose its sovereignty overnight.

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It lost it word by word, definition by definition. Once
you accept that you are a person in the legal sense,
you are consenting to step into a corporate framework where
you are managed, where you are licensed. You were taxed
as an asset. So here's the trap. Nobody told you.

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Not one of us ever stood in front of a
judge and agreed to stop being one of the people
and to start being a person. You never se signed
a form that said you consent to be collateral in
a corporate system. Right. You never signed a document saying
you're willing to be part of a military draft or

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conscription if need be, or that you want to be
a part of this system by paying in taxes. But
like everything else they do, it's done invisibly. Every time
you check a box on a form, every time you
sign your name under US person, every time you accept
a license or a government ID, you are playing into

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a definition that was engineered long before you were born.
And I should take this moment to say, in no way,
shape or form, is this a class to try to
get to to, you know, teach you how to strip
yourself of your sovereignty. Right. I am not a part

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of that. I am not researched enough. I just know
how they pull the wool over our eyes. Right. I
believe we are too far down the rabbit trail to
kind of undo anything. Now I'll get some email saying that, hey,
I haven't paid taxes in thirteen years. I'm not a
part of the system, and what every individual does. God
bless you, But I am no way, shape or form,

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are going to be responsible for someone else's you know,
legal repercussions. I'm simply exposing the scam. That's my intent
here today. Okay, So again, this legal system is not
describing reality, it's creating it. And the creation it prefers
is not sovereign man or woman with God given rights.

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It's a person. You are a commercial unit in a
corporate leisure. So if the language is a trap, the
charters are certainly the mechanism. Long before United States appeared
on any parchment, America was a corporate project. Literally, most

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English settlements on this continent were founded not by the
crown but by chartered companies, joint stock ventures, granted monopoly privileges,
land claims, and governing powers in exchange for profit and
imperial expansion. So, in other words, the template was commercial

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from the start. Let's look at a few of them.
How about the Virginia Company, London and Plymouth investors pooled capital,
The Crown issued a charter and a company board, appointed governors,
councils and rules. Profit was the engine. Governance was the
function of the business plan. How about the Massachusetts Bay Company.

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This is a very very interesting case. The charter allowed
the company's governing body to sit in the colony, not
in England. This meant a private corporation effectively operated as
a body politic and corporate on this soil. They had

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the ability to make laws, to tax, militia powers, embed
it within its corporate framework, and when you start to
hear it laid out like this, you start to understand
what's going on. Then you had proprietary colonies Pennsylvania, Maryland
were they had grants to individuals or syndicates who were

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then structured governance in ways that look in hindsight they
looked like private administration with public consequences and the same
thing we deal with today. So why does that matter?
Number One, because public authority was cloaked in the form

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of corporate pocracy. Okay, it's nothing more than public authority
cloaked in corporate form. Number two, Subjects reclassified as stakeholders, tenants, freemen,
or inhabitants were defined by company rules rather than timeless

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natural law how or how we should be governed by right.
So another thing we have to take the time to
research is what really is a charter a charter is
a poem or a proclamation. It is a contract. It

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grants privileges, immunities, and remember why are they never held accountable,
because well, maybe we're in a legal corporation and some
people are granted immunity and they play the parts like
somebody is going to get arrested, but they're not going to.

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The entire DNA of the structure is corporate. Right. It
names an entity and its perpetual succession, which we now
call corporate immortality. It describes in ternal governance. It grants
exclusive rights, trade monopolies, land minerals. Right, and those who
don't play along, the corporation sets its soldiers out and

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puts them in line. Right, We're about to take a
lot of oil from Venezuela. They'll make it sound like
there's a drug problem down there, right, No, they want
the oil. So, from the perspective of first principles, a
charter inverts the relationship we associate with a free people
under God. Instead of people creating a government, what is

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really going on is the crown creates a company that
governs the people. That is what's going on today. Okay,
whereabout is free? You know, we're a little more free
as a guy sitting in an eight by twelve. So
we're in an open air prison. We are not. You know,

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the people are supposed to create the government, and the
people should flourish or suffer during good times and bad.
But the fact of the matter is when the company
does well, the company gets rich, and when the company suffers,
the people get stuck with the bill. They always benefit.
We never do. This company that runs the United States

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five years ago told small business to shut down, and
those who didn't comply were shut down by other civilians. Right,
who receive their paycheck from the police departments. Right, how
many times did we hear? You know, I hate to

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do this. I don't agree with it, but it's my job.
That's what happens when you have a crown that creates
a company that governs people. That's a persian, that is
the seed. That was the seed as the nation as
a corporation frame. So as the colonies matured, many converted

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from corporate to royal or self governed status. But without
a doubt, corporate corporate logic persisted. Right, property titles, town patents,
municipal incorporations. Right, each one is just a mini charter
defining rights and obligations as terms of membership, the language

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of incorporation. Right, most towns are incorporated right franchise privilege
by laws. They all migrated from merchant ledgers into town halls.
So by the time independence arrived, Americans had both the
rhetoric of natural rights and a deep familiarity with corporate

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forms as everyday governance tools. And then you have the
post independence area. But the charter principle continues, right, So
the new Republic didn't banish corporations mistake number one, It
domesticated them. States continued to charter banks, bridges, canals, turnpikes, universities.

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And then the big dagger was the municipal governments. And
there were two legal developments that entrenched the corporate frame
number one trusteeship and entity shielding. Well, this means the
law redefined the idea that an entity owns assets, makes contracts,

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and faces liabilities separate from the natural persons behind it.
That shield is efficient for commerce, very useful for anyone
who wants power without personal exposure. Right, the people with
the money behind the rules. And then you have the

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judicial protection of the charters. The courts increasingly treated corporate
charters as contracts that the state simply couldn't casually rewrite.
So what did this do? This protected the investors. That's
what the Supreme Court is in place for to ensure
that the important rulings go their way. They're going to

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throw us a bone every now and then, right, but
that this is to reinforce the fact that when it
comes down to it, they have their people in place. Right,
protected investors, fortified the status of incorporated bois bodies as
these quasi sovereign actors in their own lane. So what

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was the result here? You had an American landscape filled
with public facing corporations, some private, some municipal, operating under
contract logic while exercising functions we normally associate with government.
Right now, let's talk about what we've heard a lot, right,

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And once you accept this municipal corporate form is normal,
it becomes easier to accept corporate form at higher levels,
which is precisely the debate that erupted when we get
to Washington, d c. And the Organic Act of eighteen
seventy one the United States in all caps the entity questions. Now,

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many many researchers point out the stylistic convention of rendering
United States in all caps and argue that it signals
an entity name the way a corporation styled on filings. Now,
mainstream lawyers dismiss this as a you know, that's just

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the way it is, right, just the typography. But in
the there's your pattern. The question is not typographical, It
is structural. Right? Do federal institutions operate like a corporate
entity with a consolidated account officers and perpetual succession? Seems

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that way? Do citizens interact primarily as customers obtaining benefits, numbers,
and permissions in exchange for compliance? Do courts treat the
entity as the accountable unit while natural persons behind it
often remain insulated? Sounds familiar? Now, Listen whether or not

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capitalization proves anything. I would say that the daily experience
of most Americans forms, license numbers, fees, fines feels more
to me like we're dealing with a service provider that
claim aims sweeping terms and conditions right now. Throughout the

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nineteenth century, the courts expanded the idea that a corporation
is a person for many legal purposes, whether it's owning
property and you don't really own property, entering contracts, due process,
et cetera. Once that move is made, that person or

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entity distinction that we raised a little earlier becomes practical,
not theoretical. If the system treats entities as persons, it
can treat persons as entities. Right, So now they're trying
to flatten the moral distinction between a living man and
a paper construct. Governance can migrate from rights language to

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risk and compliance language. Now, when you hear the term
franchise franchises old law, it's not just a fast food license, right,
what's the big thing now by a pick a ball
franchise that's been all over the social media feed lately.

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It's more than that. It's a special privilege granted by
the sovereign. Consider how many aspects of modern life are
mediated as franchises or permits. How about the right to
operate a vehicle, the right to build on land, to
run a business, to work in a trade right. A

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lot of trades require occupational license. How about access to
a payment system, bank accounts, tax identification, your social Security
number for those in business, your EI in right, even
in communications secs, in the house spectrum licensing. Every step

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in our world feels like we're interacting with a charter
granting authority. Each step nudges us from sovereign usage to
corporate participation. Over time, people come to believe that they
must hold a franchise to live, and if they must,

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then those who grant the franchise hold the real sovereignty. Right,
and we see the same pattern repeated over and over again.
You create an entity with special privileges, then they define
the membership within that entity, residents, citizens, licenses. Then you

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translates rights into benefits administered by policy, translate duties into
compliance enforced by code. And then, of course the big
one shield, the decision makers be behind the entity when
harm occurs, right, nobody these people send our boys and

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girls into war without thinking twice about it. Bush was
never held accountable. All these monsters have never been accountable
for their actions. That's because the shield decision makers are
behind the entity. When harm okers, they're protected ladies and gentlemen.

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That is the corporate pattern and it is visible from
colonial companies to modern day capitals today. So all of
this really set the stage for eighteen seventy one, because
by the late eighteen hundreds, America already had a long
history of governance by charter, widespread municipal and corporation, a

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court blessed entity shield, and a culture of franchises. So
here we go enter the Organic Act of eighteen seventy one.
Now officially it rationalized the government of the District of Columbia. Practically,
according again to many many researchers, what it did was
consolidated a federal municipal corporate form that would later dovetail

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with central banking and emergency finance. So this is eighteen
seventy one, and all within sixty years, where three generations
are and if you count twenty years as a generation. Okay,
everything changed, and we're going to talk about each one.

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So again, the Organic Act of eighteen seventy one. You know,
if the colonial charters set the pattern, this was the
lightning rod. Now for some it was nothing more than
a housekeeping statute that reorganized Washington, DC. For others, for
truth seekers, for people who conceal, who can see behind

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the screen if you will, it is the moment the
United States ceased to be a constitutional republic and became
a corporate entity. So the Organic Act of eighteen seventy one,
forty First Congress, the third Session was passed on February

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twenty first, eighteen seventy one. Its stated purpose was to
provide a single, unified government for the District of Columbia.
Before the Act, DC was governed in what you would
call a patchwork fashion. Right, Georgetown, Washington City, and the
County of Washington each had separate administrations. Now the Act

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consolidated them into one municipal government overseen by a governor
and council appointed by the President. So what happened. They
created a territory government for the district. They established an
appointment of a governor, elected legislature, and appointed judiciary, and

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they gave them to powers to levy taxes, manage infrastructure,
and and govern the affairs of the district. So it
became its own territory. Now, alternative researchers argue that the
Organic Act did more than consolidate local government. They claim

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it incorporated the United States as a municipal corporation, transforming
the Republic into a corporate entity. Right in law, a
municipal corporation has perpetual succession, has the ability to sue
to be sued, own property, exactly like a private corporation.

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And once you United States was housed in this municipal framework.
The argument goes that the entity became a corporation distinct
from the constitutional republic, so the citizens no longer dealt
with the organic constitution, but with a corporate fact syllam

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corporate facts simile, I should say, pardon me, that operated
under statutory law. The capitalization of the United States in
later documents is cited as evidence that the name itself
became a corporate trademark or identity design. So obviously, timing

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is everything, and it certainly mattered here. Just six years
out of the Civil War, the nation was tremendously in debt.
Reconstruction was underway right, and Congress was consolidating federal power,
structuring the capital into a corporate style municipality. Congress created

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a model that blended governance with corporate logic at the
very heart of the republic. Supporters of the corporate United States,
they argue, this was the turning point, right. It was
based on the Constitution to give way to a de
facto corporate entity operating under municipal charters. Sovereign people became

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persons or participants in a corporate system rather than free
citizens of a republic. Then the groundwork was laid for
future financial restructurings, especially the Federal Reserve in nineteen thirteen,
and then, of course the bankruptcy the emergency bankruptcy measures
of the nineteen thirties. Now, of course, the mainstream historians,

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they dismissed the corporate United States theory, right. They all
say it was about local governorance, not national corporations. Nothing
in the statute dissolved or replaced the Constitution. However, even
mainstream voices acknowledge that the Act cemented a corporate model

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of governance for DC itself. And given that all federal
agencies and courts and offices operate out of Washington, d C.
It's obvious to see that the line between municipal and
national became blurred. It's a big one, it truly is.

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So ask yourself, if the Organic Act of eighteen seventy
one laid the structural foundation for corporate style United States,
then you have to say the next great transformation came
with money. Who wishes it, who controls it, and who

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guarantees it? Because once you control the medium of exchange,
you just don't influence commerce, you control people's lives. Nineteen
thirteen Congress passes the Federal Reserve Act, creating a private
central banking system to manage US currency and credit. By

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the way, we just went over thirty eight trillion the
other day. On the surface, this was built as reform,
stabilizing the economy, preventing panics, and smoothing out the banking system.
But we know what really happened. It handed enormous power
to private bankers, allowing them to issue money not backed

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by gold or silver, but by government debt. So here's
the key. Every every Federal Reserve note is a liability.
Remember our money used to represent actual value, right you
could take that note and get it's worth in silver
or gold. Right Now it's FIA currency, it's worthless. It

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represents debt not well. So to issue dollars, the government
borrows money from the Federal Reserve, and the Fed creates
the money electronically or on paper, and that debt accrues interest,
and the taxpayers, the ordinary citizens, are on the hook.

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So it's obvious we're not the shareholders because we don't
get any dividends at the end of the year. Now,
maybe some people, maybe some of you all get a
tax return. God bless you. If you do. The Republic's
wealth was effectively mortgage to be a banking cartel. Then

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came the Great Depression that really worked out twenty years right,
they're in the middle of a depression. By nineteen thirty three,
the United States could no longer redeem its obligations in gold,
so FDR. To say that FDR is a socialist is
like saying the Atlantic Ocean is a little wet. Declared

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a national emergency, confiscated private gold, suspended redemption because the
corporate couldn't manage their own money. Overnight, citizens could no
longer exchange paper notes for gold. The gold standard was dead.

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The corporate United States was bankrupt. So how did the
government keep running? By pledging the labor and property of
its citizens as collateral. This is the crucial pivot point,
and there are several eighteen seventy one, nineteen thirteen, but

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this one, and when we we talked about it last year,
we mentioned how big this was and how little attention
this bankruptcy forcing people to give up their goal and
pledging the labor and property of its citizens as collateral.
The government didn't simply go bankrupt. It restructured its citizens

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into financial assets. Now this is. Anytime I bring this up,
I'll be sure to have plenty of emails tomorrow. And
that's fine, but it's interesting. There are very few people
on the fence about this subject, but the birth certificate

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system is to believe to be a part of this.
So to break it down, there's a lot of people
who argue that since the nineteen thirties, every American born
has had a birth certificate filed not just as a
record of life, but as the creation of a legal

(41:03):
entity or a straw man or a corporate person. Now,
there was a famous video that went around and I'm
just guessing here five or six years ago, where this
guy was able to go on Amazon or some website
and by four car tires it was like twelve hundred

(41:25):
bucks by using his stock with his social Security number
and again with the world today. Who knows, but it
went pretty viral and I don't even know if I
could find it today. But they say, your name written
in all capital letters is not you, but the legal
fiction created by the state, and that entity is tied

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to a government bond and it's used as collateral for
national debt. So what are we saying here? We're saying
that the government is effectively monetizing its citizens by trading
these certificates on financial markets. Now, even the most boolish

(42:10):
economic person understands that the stock market does not properly
reflect the world today. Right, nobody's working yet, there's still
everybody has money. Like that, the system has not collapsed yet.
So what's keeping the system afloat is that our bonds?

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Is it the illegal drug war that that somebody made
a good mention of a few weeks ago. What's really
floating this boat? And when I say everybody has money,
I don't mean it like we're all, you know, doing
super great. Right. The money that we have go it
is not worth nearly what it used to be just
five years ago. Right. If you're you and a couple

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of people are going to dinner, you're going to spend
one hundred dollars. Right. The price of everything is insane.
But what's really keeping this market afloat? And it could
possibly be us? The flesh and blood is distinct from
this corporate fiction. But every time you use your Social

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Security number, or you sign official documents or accept government benefits,
you're operating in the name of that entity. Right now,
mainstream people they'll come on, Professor Dave and they'll say,
a birth certificates are simply vital records. You know nothing more.
But we know that the social security system and t

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bon markets are intimately connected. We also know in legal
context that the capitalization of names signals entities, not natural persons.
And we know that since nineteen thirty three, the government

(43:58):
solvency has been tied to to the productive labor of
its citizens. And whether or not bonds are literally sold
on your name, the principal stands you are the collateral.
And maybe that's why they needed World War two, for
the money, for the assets, for the minerals, for the oil,

(44:19):
for the technology. It's the one thing people never talk about,
was the technological advance of Germany from the late twenties
into the thirties, and that we were coming off of
bankruptcy as well. So after nineteen thirty three, Americans lived
in two realities. The Republic on paper write what was

(44:40):
taught in the schoolhouses. We the people are constitutional rights,
the Bill of Rights. But then you also have the
corporation in practice, where every transaction, license and identification ties
the person to a commercial system backed by debt, not sovereignty.
Every citizen became both debtor and collateral in corporate framework

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they never consciously signed into. Okay, now, notice the pattern again.
In corporate bankruptcy, executives may reorganize, restructure debt, and walk
away shielded. Same logic applies here. However, ordinary Americans were
forced into collateral statutes, while the banking elites who engineered

(45:31):
the crisis simply gained more control. Corporations commit the crime,
the people pay the fine. Why does it matter today
whether if you walk into a courtroom, when you sign
a mortgage, when you apply for a license, you were

(45:53):
not interacting as one of the people. You are interacting
as a legal person, a corporate entity that was created
without your knowledge. This is why judges bureaucrats. They do
not care about your natural rights. They're dealing with a

(46:15):
straw man, not the living man or water. So by
the time we reached the mid twentieth century, the divide
is clear. On one hand, the America, we were taught
to salute the flag, to memorize poems, and believe in
the dajour Republic, a government of limited powers founded on

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natural lights, existing only by the consent of the governed.
On the other hand, there is the America that we
live on today, the de facto corporation, a commercial system
that treats every interaction as a contractual relationship right, every
person as an account, every right as a privilege to

(46:59):
be licensed, taxed, were revoked. So again what we're taught
is no, everything is based on the constitution. The authority
flows from God to the people, to the government, and
your rights are unalienable. Sounds great, right, That's what the

(47:20):
civic books say. That's why we celebrate the fourth of July.
But the truth is this corporation is based on statutes, codes,
and administration rules. The authority flows downward corporation, government into people.
Rights are treated as benefits contingent on compliance. That word

(47:44):
was used a lot five years ago. We sat behind
this microphone in twenty twenty and twenty one and we
went out into the streets and we said, do not comply.
So in this de facto corporation system that does exist today,

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you're not free by default. You are regulated by default.
The assumption is that you're engaged in commerce, and therefore,
under the jurisdiction of commercial codes. You want to drive
a car, you get your driver's license right. You want
to build a shed, you need a permit. You want
to cut hair, sell lemonade, run a small business, you

(48:27):
have to pay fees and register with the state. Remember
your Social Security numbers not just for retirement. It is
the account number for your participation in the system. Without it,
you can't open a bank account, you cannot get a job.
You pay tax is the whole thing. Remember that number

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ties you to the corporate entity, the straw man created
at birth. You look at any court document Hobbs versus
the State of or not that it exists. I'm giving
you an example. It's all caps, every court document, right
Smith versus Johnson, hall caps. It's not a typo. It

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represents the legal entity, not the living man or woman.
By the way, and I think most of you already
know this, but judges do not acknowledge natural law and practice.
They one hundred percent adjudicate based on statutory law, the
rules written for persons engaged in commerce. Right, the income

(49:37):
tax established with the sixteenth Amendment and expanded once again
through statutes, and treat you not as a sovereign freeholder
but as a participant in a commercial enterprise. Look at
go on. The IRS's website. The IRS deals with US
persons entities with taxpayer identification numbers, not with people sovereign beings. Right,

(50:04):
and this, you could argue, this is where the birth
certificate theory bites the hardest. Every American effectively has two identities, right,
A living man or woman wor flesh and blood with
God given rights. And then the straw man all caps name,
a legal fiction created at birth, tied to bonds, accounts,

(50:26):
operating as a person in the corporate system. So when
you sign official paperwork, right, we always use our Social
Security number, when you cast your paycheck, you're functioning as
the straw man. And that's the great duality of modern America.

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Right on paper, you're still free, the Constitution still exists.
In practice, your bound is collateral in a corporate system
that manages your labor, your property and participate participation through codes,
license and contracts. Now, let's get to the point that

(51:09):
we talk about often. What's that word we all we
always mentioned accountability. So at this point the pattern is undeniable.
Language has been weaponized, charters have been normalized, corporate governance, finances, mortgage,
the republic, on and on. Right, So why is it

(51:30):
the decade after decade, crisis after crisis, the elites, the
ruling class, the parasites. Why don't they ever seem to
face real punishment. That's probably the easily the easiest answered
question of this podcast is that they're protected by design.

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In corporate law, one of the greatest innovations was two
words limit dd liability. The corporation is treated as its
own person, separate from the individuals who run it. That
means if a corporation commits fraud or pollutes rivers, the

(52:15):
officers can claim immunity. Right. We talk about the Sackler
family often. Well, sure they had to pay seven billion
dollars or whatever it was, but they didn't spend a
minute in jail. If you killed hundreds of thousands of
people with opioids, again, I say this all the time,

(52:37):
we'd be down in Guantanamo Bay in a hot box,
awaiting in Article thirty two hearing with the highest trees
and against humanity, crimes against humanity would be done. But
we're not them and they're not us. Right, what do

(52:58):
we hear all the time? We hear corporation commits fraud,
pollutes rivers, shareholders risk their investment. Right, how many times
have you seen a CEO just absolutely destroy a company.
They walk away no charges, unharmed, and in many cases

(53:20):
with their bonuses, while the entity absorbs the damage. Ladies
and gentlemen, This is exactly how the ruling class operates.
In the larger system the United States is a corporate
entity shields the decision makers. Wars can be launched, banksis

(53:43):
can collapse, Trillions can disappear. You know how many billions
alone in that short period of time in two thousand
and three disappeared from Baghdad Paul Wolfowitz's pocket. They never
see jail cells. At worst, the design with a golden parachut,
testify before Congress with no consequences. But let's cite our sources,

(54:09):
all right. How about two thousand and eight financial crisis.
You had major banks that were involved with fraudulent mortgage
securities and it collapsed the global economy. What happened, Well,
the corporations were fined a drop in the bucket compared
to profits, but not a single CEO from the top

(54:36):
firms went to prison. The entity paid, not the men
behind it. The same with political scandals. Time and time again,
we see abuse of power lying under oath nothing ever
happens to him because the office or the agency, right,
the person in law absorbs the liability. Visual simply retires,

(55:01):
writes a book, where's free assigned and the one that's
near and dear to me? You know the war crimes
and foreign policy. Entire regions have been destroyed by American
wars that were fought on false pretenses. No one was

(55:25):
ever held accountable. The corporate state pays reparations, issues statements,
Oh my bad, we bad information. Could have sworn there
was you know, weapons of mass destruction. Wouldn't you know?
I will do better next time. Right, It's the same

(55:45):
thing over and over again. The entity takes the blame,
the elites extract the gain, and the people absorb the cost.
Right it a county. Accountability never reaches the top. So
you know, we trace the timeline the manipulation of the language,
the corporate roots of governance, the Organic Act of eighteen

(56:08):
seventy one, the bankers takeover of nineteen thirteen, the Bankruptcy
of nineteen thirty three, and the two tier system that
shields the ruling class, the elites, the parasites, while binding
you and I ordinary citizens into corporate servitude. But what
does it look like in practice today right now, to

(56:31):
live inside the system. You know, that's really where where
the story hits home. And if we think about our
daily life or what we do over the course of
the year, does the DMV treat you as a sovereign
man or woman exercising your right to travel or does

(56:51):
it treat you as a customer applying for a license
for permission to use the roads? The irs does recognize
your labor as the fruit of your God given capacity.
It treats you as a taxpayer under contract. You're simply
an account number with obligations. The court doesn't greet you

(57:14):
as one of the people with constitutional rights. They treat
you as a legal entity subject to statutory codes, fines,
and there's that word again, compliance in law enforcement. They
don't act as public servants under common law. They enforce codes,

(57:36):
They enforce ordinances, which are the by laws of the
corporate body. In every case, the assumption is that you're
operating in commerce, and because you're a person in their books,
you're bound to follow their corporate policies what we call laws. Right,

(57:58):
and if you add the bigger institutions, the United Nations,
the IMF, the World Bank, the World Economic Forum, who else,
the who? Right, these bodies they operate under the exact
same corporate style, but on a higher level, an international level.
Right nations are treated as members or stakeholders. Sovereignty is

(58:22):
rebranded as participation. As participation, I should say, in global governance. Right.
Look at the IMF, they treat countries like debtors in
bankruptcy court. The UN drafts binding agreements that national governments adopt,
and we know the WF they openly promote the ideas

(58:42):
of this public private partnership and where we always are
on the losing end every single time. And in retrospect,
this dual system that we live within probably explains why
so many Americans feel unheard, right when we see our

(59:05):
brothers and sisters struggling during these dire economic times. And again,
I don't know how this economy is being held up.
Like we went to Dover today to handle business and
the Sam's called. This is a Thursday afternoon at at
twelve forty five or one pm or whatever, and the
parking lot is mobbed. It's full of people. Now, granted,

(59:29):
we have a huge population here in Delaware of over
sixty five people, over sixty five. So what happens is
people retire out of New York and they all come
to Delaware. So that's part of the reason why, you know,
but you don't see a lot of young people. And

(59:51):
these are very difficult times. And I just don't understand
with the inflation, the minimum wage being fifteen dollars an hour,
nobody working, how it's all still continuing to Is it
just the Are we doing just enough to get by?
I don't know. Maybe if you're listening to this right

(01:00:11):
now and you really understand what's going on, are we
really just one more you know, big corporation dropping the
ball for us to all feel it full fledged? I
mean we all feel it. Our dollar does not nearly
go as far as it used to, right, But when

(01:00:36):
corporations fail, they're bailed out, but they're always it's always
us who gets the short end of the stick, and
we just continue to take it. It's it's incredible, right,
we feel powerless because in their eyes, we're not sovereign people.
You are the collateral person, right, And it's going to

(01:00:58):
continue through digital ID It's going to continue with central
bank digital currencies, social credit scores, biometric passports, which is
already in place, and with the debit cards and our phones,
they've already got us mentally prepared to just accept CBDCs.

(01:01:19):
And again, these are all marketed as convenience, but understand
these all represent deeper integration of the individual into a
corporate ledger. Now let's kind of wrap this up. I
appreciate you all listening to the podcast. You know, if

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we believe the official narrative, the United States was founded
on a rebellion against a chartered company that was the
British Crown and its monopolies. Right, this government is supposed
to stand up against monopolies, and I think the last
time it did was in the early eighties against Mabel
right Bell Telephone, and that brought MCI and Sprint and

(01:02:02):
all these other telecorporations. But the colonists fought to escape
corporate governance. Yet over two centuries, America has been maneuvered
back into the same system it rebelled against, only bigger,
more sophisticated, hidden in plain sight. So you know, we're

(01:02:28):
traveled through the language games and the charters, and the
central banking and the bankruptcy and the birth certificates and
the corporate shielding of the ruling class. But I think
when you sit and ponder this, you have to say,
is America a corporation? But I think you have to

(01:02:49):
look at the deeper question, Right, what's the next logical question? Well,
what does it mean for us? How do we live
in spite of it? Or in light of it? How
do you want to put it? If America, you know,
functions as a corporation, then we, the so called citizens,
are treated as its property. We are the collateral for

(01:03:10):
its debts, for the workforce, right, it's ledgers. The secular
conclusion would be bleakd. You're trapped in a rig system.
There's no way out. But if that's where we stop,
we'd be no different than the cynics who shrug and
simply accept their chains. So here's where we must cross

(01:03:35):
from the secular, you know, to the eternal. Because the
corporate system is powerful as it is, it cannot rewrite
the truth of God. It can't erase the sovereignty, right,
it cannot erase the reality that the sovereignty doesn't belong

(01:03:56):
to bankers, it doesn't belong to charters, it doesn't belie
belong to Congress, but to the Creator. And that's why
I've always said, if a law written by man crosses
the line of God, you have an inherent responsibility to
turn your back on it. Right. So Psalm twenty four
to one says that the earth is the Lord's and

(01:04:18):
the fullness thereof the world, and they that dwell Therein
No act of Congress, no banking cartel, no global charter
can overwrite that. Okay, men may create persons, entities, and corporations,
but they cannot manufacture a single soul. When Jesus said,

(01:04:44):
render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto
God the things that are God's. In Matthew, he exposed
the very tension we live in under now. Caesar, whether
in Rome or Washington, always tries to brand you, to
tax you, to regulate you, and to claim you as his.

(01:05:07):
But Caesar's claims ends where God begins, and your soul
and your ultimate allegiance and your destiny that belongs to
God alone. So yes, in many cases we are forced
to navigate to the license and taxes and courts and codes.
But I want you to walk away with one important thing.

(01:05:31):
You are not simply just a person in their books. Okay,
you are one of the people in God's book. The
corporate state can hold your paperwork, but just remember that
Christ hold your name that is written in the Book
of life. That's the great divide. Right. The corporation wants compliance,

(01:05:53):
but the Kingdom of God demands obedience. Now, I can
assure you, I don't know if it's tomorrow or hears
from now. This system, the secular system that the United
States operates under, is going to collapse one day because
of the debt and because of the corruption. So you know,

(01:06:19):
it's our call of duty to wake people up to
the deception. Share your knowledge with people, right, learn the
difference between person and people. Know the true history. But
more importantly, anchor yourself in God's word. Right, you shall
know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

(01:06:43):
There you go, we'll call it a day. There. It
was nice to sit down this afternoon, beautiful day, for
about you know, seventy five minutes and chat with you today.
I hope you enjoy this episode. I hope you take
something away. And if if this is something that is
near and dear to your heart, which I know in

(01:07:04):
the truth community it is to a lot of people,
you know, send me your thoughts it's the fact hunter
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day or two to get back to you, but I
try my best to get back to everyone. Interesting times

(01:07:24):
we're living in, that's for sure. So there you go.
God bless y'all. Have a wonderful weekend. And again, if
there's not an episode Tuesday night, I'll ensure that there's
one Wednesday. Your Thursday, God bless have a wonderful weekend.
Keep your head on a swivel. And until we meet again.

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