Episode 492: Joey Bonadonna (Blizzard)

Richard and Malcolm take a break from interviewing the "usual suspects" as far as players and coaches, and instead welcome a familiar VOICE to the show. First time guest, Joey Bonadonna, the voice of the Green Bay Blizzard! Plus, a recap of Week 14, the playoff picture for the Eastern and Western Conferences, and of course, PICK EM!

Episode Transcript

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Hello everyone, and welcome once againto the one, the only, the
fan show. I'm your host isalways the tea Man, Richard Teman and
the man in the other box.Well, he believes that a hot dog
is actually a sandwich. Where didthey get these people from? Man?
He is Malcolm McCoy, father Malco. How you doing, man, I'm
doing great? Man, Man,you can't argue. I know, I'm

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definitely in the sandwich family. Youknow, someone even call it a sub
you know, dude, that's it. That's a real debate online like there's
been when we had the whole COVIDthing. I started posting on the Fan
shows page daily debate, and Iwould just scroll through the internet just to
see, you know. I meanthere was some easy ones, like you
know, Backstreet Boys are in sync, which we're gonna talk about a little

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later, but you know, therewere some easy ones like where you team
Backstreet Boys are in sync, oryou know, pepsi or coke, things
like that. But then you know, you start kind of going further down
the rabbit hole and you're like,okay, So there's people that think legitimately
that a hot dog is a sandwich, and and they are willing to die
on that hill, and I'm like, this is a thing. Okay,

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so we got another one, butuh, that's uh, it's it's good
fun. There's there's stuff that youstir the pot with and that's that's one
of those things where you're like,is this really a crowd or a thing?
I want to engage, you know, if people are that serious about
where the hot dog is food money. So here we are episode four hundred

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and ninety two. We got tostart thinking of episode five hundred ideas just
because that is that is coming up. I do know what I want to
do for our last one of theregular season of the IFL regular season.
I think I want to give ina zoom link invite and give give them
all a heads up so it's notjust like random, but give everybody that's

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been on the show a zoom linkinvite and just see who shows up,
just the party. That might bethe way that we round out the regular
season, but yeah, that couldget crazy. Did have very good response
for if people want me and Malkto invade the championship game, So I'll

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put in the request to see ifwe get approved. And that's you know,
it's been it's been a minute sinceI've been approved for that in the
IFL world, so we'll have tosee. But also any help to get
me in milk down there, Iwould be greatly appreciated. There's always sponsorship
opportunities for everything that the fan showdoes. So if you have a business

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or a company or something that youwant to have represented, I'm all ear
so we'll talk about it. Butso that was the week after the episode,
and now after the weekend. Welike to start every show off with
some good, bad and funny.For me, malk you already know this.
I've got two goods and a bad. I don't really have anything funny
that happened. Not that there wasn'tfunny stuff that happened, just not like

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noteworthy for our segment here. Sothe good props to the Stallions. Man
who would have thought that we wouldbe in the year twenty twenty four and
have not only three championships for SpringLeague Football, but a three peat champion
that is the Birmingham Stallions, Imean the AAF. That's a whole horror

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story. I was actually featured ina documentary that my buddy from Full Sale
did that went behind the scenes andlooked at everything that went wrong with the
alliance, and it's just a heartbreakingstory, especially for those athletes that thought
their lives instantly changed. But youknow, you have the USFL and then
you have the XFL, and bothhad to battle COVID, right, and

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you once their seasons got cut short, you didn't know if they were going
to come back because it was likeall they needed was an excuse, any
excuse, and you're like, yougot a pandemic, there's your excuse.
But they did and then they joinedforce. It like first they finished the
season, which is how you crownedthe Birmingham Stallions as the USFL champions.
So they each finished the season andthen they merged for the UFL and Birmingham

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has won three times. They areyour three peat champions, and it is
just I think it's great for football. You can call them a dynasty if
you want. I don't know howmuch weight that holds, but good for
them. And then the Celtics they'reeighteen times I'm champions, they're champions of
the NBA World, which I meanI got eighteen. That's that's just a

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lot. That is oh yeah,oh yeah. If you're a Boston fan.
Man, that's gotta be great,right, but sure, but sure?
Actually, I think I heard onthe radio. Could I forget the
team who they were tad with previously? But this championship puts them at the
top as far as most NBA championshipswon. So I mean, yeah,

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Boston, they're definitely on. Theyhave us right now. Yeah, So
props to the Celtics and the Stallions. Really, props to everybody involved with
the UFL. I know that it'sboth the XFL and USFL working together,
but to have two seasons of USFLfootball, which is where the Stallions come
from originally, and they're that championtwice and now to be it a third

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time over the XFL, I thinkit's just nobody loses, right, like
everybody wins in that scenario. Soit's good to see spring football is so
strong. We're there in any otherchampions crowned over the weekend, No,
none that really come to mind.So we will move on now and we

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will talk about my bad and thatis and you're gonna laugh at this partly
because you're kind of involved. It'sBrandon ayuk man, like this happens every
off season, and I don't understandit for the life of me. Like
I get it if you're a guythat's on like on a Washington or on

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New York the Jets or Giants,or is on an Arizona or a team
that's like not in the picture,and of course anything can happen any given
Sunday, any given season. Butyou just went to the Super Bowl,
and yeah, you're one of theguys, like on that offense, which
has a lot of weapons. You'reone of the guys. And to behave

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like this when you have a legitimateshot of going right back there possibly,
I just don't understand that mentality.Because there were guys that wanted to go
to New England for years, rightlike they weren't going anywhere on their team,
their quarterback just got hurt or traded. Free agency comes up, and
they're like on New England's a landingspot with Randy Moss. You know,

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he ended up there, And thisis like the opposite. And so he's
talking with your guys's quarterback in Washingtonsaying San Francisco doesn't want him. It's
like, we want you to justnot be an ass about it. I
mean, as a fan, likecheck the attitude because I get that guys
are getting paid and you want tobe paid accordingly. There's markets and whatnot,

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but this just is a bad look. It's been. He's been in
the headlines for this, I thinkfour or five different times and has yet
to really address any of it.So it's like he's just letting it run.
And I hate it. I lovedBA, loved everything that he brought
to the tape and all the thingsthat he's done for San Francisco and their

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years of success with him part ofthe team, But at this point,
it's like, dude, I gotnothing for you. It's just I hate
it. And I don't know ifyou've had experience with that with athletes and
what drives them to behaved certain ways, but man, it just breaks my
heart. Yeah, nah, forsure, And I think that's something that

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you know, his his on thefield talent is one thing to consider,
you know, for teams, notjust Washington but any team, any perspective
team get where you can end up. But also one thing that a lot
of athletes don't take into consideration,I think is that front offices pay attention
to your character and stuff like thattoo. A lot of players I'm not

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accusing brand Akz. I'm not surehow he is off the field, but
I remember Stefan Diggs was in trouble, well in trouble with the fans quite
a bit for this, Like youknow, they accused him of being like
be type of guy, you know, And by that, I mean,
you know, you've got players whoare willing to you know, take pay
cuts or you know, do whateverneeds to be done to benefit the team

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as a whole. But when youhave guys being looked at the way he's
being portrayed in the media right now, it's kind of like he doesn't really
care about the well being of theteam. It's more so we can I
get paid, or we can thisperson do for my stats or whatever the
case is. I mean, Ifeel like as an athlete there is room

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to kind of be a little selfish, but at the same time, it
does it doesn't look good in themedia at all, Like you said,
so, I mean, as aWashingtons fan, I love to have him
over there in the maroon and goal. But I mean, we'll see,
we'll see man for sure, don'tI don't know what's in his future at

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this point. So that's my mytwo goods and bad. Like I said,
no funny. What about you?What what was your weekend? Like?
Uh so same here. I don'thave a funny necessarily. It's a
lot, like you said, alot of stuff to laugh at, especially
when we're discussing those championships. Butuh oh, I just got a good

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and bad for this week good,you know, being over here in Maryland.
Let's talk about Javont Davis, thestill undefeated, you know, undisputed
champion. This past Saturday, protectedhis title against Frank Martin and I want
to say a ninth round knockout.Man. It's it's just it's crazy looking

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at these guys. He's from outof Baltimore, Maryland, so it's kind
of close to home, you knowfor me. And he started gaining a
lot of notoriety, like when hestarted reaching those upper teams and wins and
stuff, and just watching the guyfight, man, it's like a work
of art. I love I lovesports all together, but you know,

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just watching someone who's almost like completelyperfected their krafft, like, you know,
it's it's almost it's as like whenyou go into the fight, there's
no doubt that he's gonna win.It's just when he'll do it and how
it happened. So, I mean, that was that was fun. I
went to a fight party and watchedit, and you know, it was
everybody was just off the wall whenhe when he knocked the guy out.

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So it was that was that wasfun to watch, especially being, like
I said, the Maryland resident badstaying in the room of Combat Sports.
Connor McGregor was forced to drop outof his main event fight in UFC three
hundred three against Michael Chandler. Itwas supposed to take place on twenty nine.

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Yeah. Yeah, apparently this wasdue to a training injury or something
like that. You know, alot of people were looking forward to it
because this is the first fight hewould have had since twenty It's been a
few years now, but he's he'shad the most recent one. You may
have seen footage of it. Itwasn't pretty at all, but he actually

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snapped his shin or something like that. It was like a leg kick that
just landed wrong and it literally likethe bone broke. It was almost like
a compound fracture. But yeah,this was supposed to be his big coming
back fight and uh, like Isaid, you know, the place was

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packed out. Everybody was looking forwardto it. Supposed to be a good
one for sure, but because ofuh, you know, an injury,
an unspecified injury that he was forcedto withdraw, and you know, his
camp was disappointed about it. MichaelChandler of course was disappointed. He actually
took the social media. It waslike, yeah, he said he was

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drinking away his disappointment. He hadsome shots on like Instagram. Last it
was funny. It was funny,but I mean, yeah, Speedy recovered
to Coono McGregor. For those CooMcGregor fans who were looking forward to it,
I hope this doesn't mean the endof his career, but a lot
of people are trying to, youknow, frame it in that way since
he is and is uh, Ithink late thirties. Now, you know,
it's not a it's it's kind ofan uphill battle in any sport when

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you're trying to bounce back from aninjury and you're ya when you're a little
up in age. So you know, we'll see how that goes. But
that's mine for the week, mygood and bad. Well, as I
see here right now, I thinkI do have a funny that just came
up, and that is I gotto know what store sells a quarter zip

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comforter combo, because you match yourcomforter in the background and your quarter zip
right now, that is a boldcombo. I don't know if that's their,
but man, that is that isthinking next level. That's that's the
year twenty three. They're living it. That's why I like you, minch
I was. I was hoping youwould have noticed you. Not only am

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I comfortable right now, but Igotta be comfortable when I laid out too,
so and believe it or not,they were bought. It just happened
to be like this. You know, I love I love a good good
lep print. So I mean,you know, I put it together this
way, and I just you know, I had to had to compliment my
my my fit with the with thedrakes, you know. So I'm glad

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you noticed. Okay, Well thatis our good, bad and funny and
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man, take it. And that'sbrought to you. F three energy,

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F three energy, fucky a.Let's go ooh peach, Oh yeah,
that's good. My fit Today isbrought to you by the green Bay Blizzard.
I knew number one team in mypower rankings. I finally got some
swag courtesy of coach Robson. Sowe are go green Bay for the rest

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of the se and go some otherteams. But I mean, I'm starting
to feel it. I'm starting tofeel this Green Bay vibe right now.
In fact, that brings us toour you know week recap or IFL headlines,
which you know green Bay is thenew number one in my power rankings.
They have clinched the first playoff spotof the twenty twenty four season,

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which is huge for them, firsttime, I believe since twenty eighteen or
twenty nineteen. But it's been aminute, and they've been on the cusp
several seasons and for them to comeout have the longest active winning streak,
have a quarterback that's in well,at least for me and malk the MVP
conversation, and at this point,I don't see how Miler could not be
in that conversation. They got somestuds on defense. It's just clicking in

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all phases. If you're a fanof the league, if you're a fan
of this sport. Then you're afan of what the Blizzard are doing right
now because it's just fun to watcha team, you know, be so
close and now really start to putit together. So to them, they
did clinch that Friday, so itwas a great weekend for them. The

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end of season is going to begreat for me in malk. I'm excited
for us to look back at allthe things that we said we're going to
be a certain way and that wewere right about, because there's been a
few times that people have been like, wait what, And some of it
was, you know, when wetalked about Max Miler possibly being MVP and
it looks like you can't really leavehim out of the conversation now and Green
Bay being a team to watch,mass being kind of pretenders. But there's

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a lot I can't wait to bringit up. So San Diego, Arizona
and San Antonio all one, whichdoes not make things any clear in the
Western Conference. In fact, Arizonabecause they beat NAS now leap frogs them
and is in the third playoff spot, and then NAS is in the fourth

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playoff spot, So it goes BayArea Vegas, Arizona, NAS, and
technically San Antonio know is like afull game behind Arizona and NAZ and San
Diego and San Diego is like ahalf game because they've played one less than
than Arizona and NAS. But it'sit's starting to get really clustered in that

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pack. So San Diego beat BayArea, which I mentioned when we did
our little conference breakdown and the remainingplayoff spots and who might get it.
I said, they're going to needto do it at least once because they
play them twice. So they've gotthe one out of the way. It
did come down to a missed fieldgoal. We went from either a great
or terrible weekend for kickers to aterrible weekend for kickers. Man. Wow.

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Like, and there's there's something thatI'm going to bring up for you
to touch on as a player,Malcolm, that I think really needs some
attention here specifically about that. Butanyway, so forty three forty two is
your final there. So San Diegoone game closer to clinching a playoff spot,

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but Vegas finally snapped out of theirfree fall and they have continued to
lock up the number two spot,but it was against d C, and
DC is overhauling their coaching staff.Currently, they have parted ways with Fred
Griggs and so now Lachlan, whowas with Billions the Outlaws, is their

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new head coach. So Vegas overDC fifty three thirty nine. Kind of
what we expected there. Arizona Overnassfifty six forty nine. Not nearly as
close as you thought it would havebeen. Arizona pretty much had this one
and control the whole game, Sothe West playoff picture gets a little bit
more muddled. But Arizona definitely controllingtheir fate, which I think was something

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that you and I weren't sure thatthey would do. They might have to
rely on other teams winning or losingto get into the postseason picture all together.
Now they're the projected number three.San Antonio over mass We knew it
was going to happen, fifty twofifty one. Castronova needs to be not
just in the talks for Offensive Playerof the Year, but he has now

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shifted into the MVP conversation, especiallyespecially if they make the postseason, because
if he's hurt, which he toldme that he was, like his non
throwing shoulder, so if he's atlike seventy five eighty percent and he's still
putting up three hundred and fourteen yards, six touchdowns and no picks like this
dude at one hundred percent. Imean, my god, like malk you

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know him well, like this shouldn'tsurprise you at all. Yeah, man,
and you would think so, I'veseen the man play in person,
I've seen him practice, but yeah, he's like a robot at this point.
Rich, I don't know what tosay, right, I mean,
like you said, he's like atabout seventy percent, definitely not one hundred
with the hurt shoulder, but he'sstill he's making it look easy out there.

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Man. That's crazy. It's it'shard not to still be impressed by
somebody like that. But the finalseconds of that game was the most exciting.
So Castronova throws a touchdown one ofthe six, and then they go
for a two point conversion instead ofthe pat and they miss, like it's

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a failed conversion, but there's aflag, so they redo it, and
so then they redo the two pointconversion, so they get two cracks at
it now and they finally get it, and then it was a missed field
goal for mass But really, Imean, that's like super Superman Sam,
right, there. That's that's that'sCastronova MVP worthy stuff to be able to

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do that knowing that like you haveto keep winning to lock up a postseason
spot and that you're currently on theoutside looking in. So that was good
by them. Iowa over QC thisone, I knew we probably could go
either way. I really thought QuadCity would have it. But twenty eight,
twenty seven one point Kaplan missed thefield goal to win there, So

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there's another missed field goal that's thethird one of the weekend to win.
It's just crazy that you go fromthese games where these guys are getting carried
off the field for walk off fieldgoal wins and now they're missing ones that
are well within their range. Soit just goes to show you that you
can't can't really count on anything inthis league like you can in the NFL.

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And then your last games that reallyweren't any surprise, well maybe for
some the Tulsa over SF fifty fiveto forty one. There, Frisco over
Tucson, no surprise, thirty fiveeighteen. I feel bad for Tucson.
They got to figure it out.And then, like I said, Vegas
over DC, so notable performances fromthat week, Max Miler fifteen and nineteen

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one hundred and fifty seven yards,four touchdowns through the air, no picks,
and two on the ground. ThenSnead for A z Dalton Sneed thirteen
and nineteen one ninety five seven touchdowns, no picks, no touchdowns on the
ground, all through the air,and Corey read his receiver five receptions one

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hundred yards, three of those weretouchdowns. That's just craziness. And then
finally Sam Castronova twenty eight to thirtyeight three fourteen, six touchdowns through the
air, no interceptions, none onthe ground, but Nikwan Murray five receptions
ninety six yards and three touchdowns.So those are your notable performances. But

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like I said, we were goingto talk about something and real quick before
I get too far ahead of myself, what were your takeaways, any surprises,
or anything that you thought was noteworthyfrom from that slate of games one
in particular, I just found itfunny how it seems like at this point

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we have it down to a sciencelike things that the fans don't expect,
but we kind of almost predicted.They start to they seem like they're happening
regularly. Now. I think itwas you, like you said before,
how San Diego needs to win atleast one of those matchups against Bay Area.
I personally didn't see it happening,but I've said a number of times.

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You know, it's hard to bethe team twice, and I mean
it shows, especially in this league. You can't really call it. You
seemed a lot more confident than Iwas about them pulling out one of those
victories. And although, like yousaid, it came down to a missfield
goal, on beyarious part, itwas it was. It was nothing less
than an interesting game for sure.That's my If I had to choose one

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game that I guess one game ofthe week for me, that would definitely
be it. It was just itwas a lot going on. Man.
I got to shout out the guyJohnson. Johnson, I think it's uh.
He wears number seven. I forgethis first name, but he's he's
one of their on the roster.He's listed as a backup quarterback, but

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at this point he's just a utilityplayer. Man. He's uh. He's
like one of those guys I mentionedearlier and a previous episode. Now he
just embodies the what football is aboutreally not really getting down when you're not
playing your primary position quote unquote whatyou know, he can be utilized elsewhere,

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and he's doing it. Man.He's played some receiver, he's played
some running back, you know,just like I said, his natural position
quarterback. He's everywhere. Man.He was a huge part of that that
victory they pulled out. So yeah, and you know, I looked at
the scores and of course watched thegames, and there was never really any
sort of turning point for some ofthose games. Like I said, Arizona

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had the lead the whole time atleast three of the four quarters. I'm
not sure about I can't recall thefirst some of the games that got too
late, but fifty six forty nine, I mean, there's not really a
spot in there where there was likea huge momentum shift or swing, like
Arizona knew the assignment right. SanDiego Bay Area. Bay Area did have

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the lead at halftime, but itwas you know, like some twenty one
point lead. It was a onescore game, so you can't really say
that there was any sort of lostopportunities there. But props for San Diego
for rallying back both quarterbacks Neil andDavis threw picks that game, so the
defense is really stepped up good.And then you know, san Antonio over
mass that's just saying, you know, we gotta win. You know,

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we can't tie. We definitely can'tlose if we want to punch our ticket
to the postseason. So NAS it'scrazy to think that they're in the fourth
spot and could potentially be out ofthe playoff picture by the end of it.
But that game against Arizona was onethey needed. But that brings us
to the topic now full disclosure.I completely understand kickers. The stereotype is

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that they have one job to do. You know, they don't sometimes run
the ball, they don't sometimes catchthe ball like receivers and running backs.
But at the same time, it'sI can't tell you how many games I've
been upset about because of a missedfield goal or a made field goal if
you're on the other end of it, or because of the refs making what

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we all considered a bad call.And so I've always said, you know,
don't leave it up to the refs, don't rely on a make or
a missed field goal. You know, put the game away when you have
the chance to. But the morethat I watch these games and the more
I get familiar with it from yourperspective as as a player, is that
football is a game of inches,but it's not meant to be literal.

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It's meant to be kind of,you know, literal, metaphorical, figurative
as far as it's a game ofinches where it will come down to the
little things like a call in thesecond or a field goal in the third,
or a field goal at the endof the game. So when as
a player, when somebody said toyou, you know, can't leave it

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on the refs, or you can'tyou know, leave it up to your
kicker or whatever, like, howhow did that make you feel? Just
because you know, sixty minutes definedby five seconds or three seconds or one
moment. That really just kind ofI don't know, that would rub me
the wrong way, Oh for sure, for sure. I mean, and
I could imagine how any team thatyou know, face with Bay Area face

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just this past weekend, could couldbe could shaded us those same your same
sentiments for real. You know,it's just it's it kind of feels like
a slap in the face to youknow, doing your job, just drive
after drive and just for it toessentially not even matter. And I don't.
I mean, I say that witha grain of salt, because I

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know every play matters, but it'shard not to feel that way after taking
a taking a loss like that.I think ultimately that added pressure of kind
of putting the game away early whenyou can, it's it can be a
bit intimidating to something, but forplayers like myself, it kind of gives

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us a sense of a sense ofpride almost. You know, the coach
trusts us enough to challenge us withthat task of you know, putting the
game away or you know, justbeing that dominant presence enough when you are
on the field so that it doesn'thave to come down to something as a

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trivial as a kick or or justone one drive. You know, you
want to you want to do yourjob to the point where there's no questions
asked or there's nothing left to bedesired on any other phase of the ball.
That's just how I've always looked atas a defensive player, as a
defensive minded guy. You know,you look at it from the other perspective

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and it's like it it is likeit that's an aspect of the game.
Also, though it's special teams's kicking, the refs and the calls, that's
an aspect of the game too.For sixty minutes, you have all these
components that are churning together for whatis football. And so I think people
can be right but also wrong whenit comes to don't leave it to the

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refs and don't leave it up toyour kicker or the other team's kicker to
make or miss a field goal.But that is part of the game,
you know. So it's just kindof tough to say that to people and
be like, well, you can'tdo this or can't do that. It's
like, but that's part of thegame. So that was just something I
kind of took away because, yeah, I did feel for Bay Area.
It felt for every team that lostbecause of a missfield goal, which I

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don't think there were any that wonbecause of the made field goal. So
just way opposite of a week fromwhat we had last week. But that
is our weekly round up for theIFL action And as far as my power
rankings and the coaches pull, wedisagree on two teams. They have Vegas
above Frisco and I have Frisco aboveVegas. But fourteen weeks in and we're

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different on how we feel. Twoteams ranks out of sixteen, so not
too bad for us over here atthe fan show. And that will bring
us to our interview portion of theshow, which today is not a player
and it's not a coach. It'sactually an unsung hero of the world of
indoor football representing the Green Bay Blizzard. That's right, folks, welcome at

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this time the voice of the GreenBay Blizzard, Joey b Joey Bona,
Donna. How you doing, man, I'm doing great, you know,
ten and two teams doing pretty well. I mean I can't say that.
You know, if I walked intothis season, I thought this team was
going to be pretty good, butI wouldn't be saying at this point in
the season they'd be sitting at numberone in your rankings coaches poll. You

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know, it's been a fun season, fun season to cover for sure.
Like me and Malcolm said, it'sa beautiful thing. If you love indoor
football, if you love this league, you love to see Green Bay be
what they are right now, justfiring on all cylinders, all aspects of
the game. Robson's got it clicking. You guys have an MVP candidate and
Max Miler, who we called earlyin the season, I said, you

(31:07):
know, could he be the MVP? And right now it looks like he
might have to compete with Sam Castronova, you know, who we thought maybe
was the gimme for Offensive Player ofthe Year, but after their performance against
mass he's right up there for MVP, especially if they make the postseason.
So there's been a lot that's happenedover the last few weeks, especially out
West, but out East, youguys reigned supreme. And you know,

(31:30):
I love having guys like you,you know from the front office or you
know, commentary booth, you know, things like that, because it's like
when I used to have Joe Staceyof the Barnstormers on. You guys just
have a certain pulse on the teamand everything right now. So this is
I believe, the first playoff appearancesince either twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen,

(31:52):
and you know it was how's itfeel like? What's the mood around the
locker room, around the fan justeverything like that. I mean, honestly,
so that twenty nineteen team, thatteam went nine to five in the
regular season, and that felt likeunbelievable because obviously, like the two years
prior, it was back to backtwo win seasons, and it was just

(32:15):
like getting that jump up to anine win season was awesome, Corey one
Coach of the Year. Getting backto the playoffs, hosting playoff football was
great. Then obviously losing in thefirst round a game that Blizzard had the
lead with a minute to go withthe football fumbling it away and giving Tommy

(32:37):
Armstrong and Sap Lynch and that Dangerteam a chance to go take the win
at the end, that stung.That absolutely stung. And then all that
team kind of came back for twentytwenty and then there was no season.
The mantra that we always go withis one more and this week it's it's
one more against the Quad City steamWheelers. And obviously he saw last a

(33:00):
few weeks ago when when Keevan wason the show, like he said,
they still got to see us,and we do. We got to see
him this week and it'll be afun one down there in mo Lean.
Yeah, I do recall that twentynineteen season very well. I had been
doing my annual awards for the fansshow, because there's like five more categories
that all put out there that theleague won't you know for like best broadcaster

(33:23):
or Call of the Year stuff likethat, you know, things that I
think deserve a little spotlighter appreciation.And people were so convinced, well by
people, I mean the Rattlers fanbase, that Kevin Guy was going to
get Coach of the Year. AndI was like, you're out of your
mind, Like you it's expected thatKevin Guy leads this team to the playoffs.
And what Roverson has done in GreenBay is is nobody saw that and

(33:46):
it's really something to watch him takethat Green Bay team to the playoffs for
the first time. And I thinkit was an even longer drought that time.
So yeah, I think it wastwenty twelve, but that was the
last time with them, so itwas seven years since then. And you
gotta remember that was his first yearas full time head coach. He was
the interim the year before then.That was his first team that he could

(34:07):
really put together by himself. Broughtguys in like Mark Wez Golman that was
a great player on that. MakariTriggs won Defensive Rookie of the year.
That year he really established his styleof ball, his defense, Leonora's footman
quarterback, and that was a funteam to cover. But it's been it's
been trending upwards since. I mean, having to start back from from square

(34:31):
one, you can see they've beenclose, and the last three years,
it feels like the last month ofthe season they've been in that playoff discussion.
Yeah, you guys have had somestuds over the years. It's crazy
that, you know, when westarted this thing back up for this year,
I was like, I don't knowif I know anybody from Green Bay,
and that'll be a first, tobe honest, but you know,

(34:52):
we knew that Max had returned MVPcaliber season. He's just a stud on
that offense. So really great thingsfor Green Bay. We'll say this though,
I remember vividly that playoff game,and if there's one piece of advice
for you as the voice of theBlizzard, is to not do what Alex
did in that game, which wassay we're going, yeah, you know,

(35:14):
we're moving on to the next roundand the next play fumble. Yeah.
I always say don't run out ashotgun and under a minute ago,
But then every time I very rarelyI go back and watch that game because
it's just so painful for me.Yeah, I still give Alex a little
bit of grief for that, because, yeah, I remember we had actually

(35:36):
pulled together a stat before the gameof how many days it had been since
the Blizzard had been in the playoffs. It was something like, you know,
thousands of days something like that,and he asked me like, hey,
do you have that number? Pullit? I was like, right
out of break, you have thatnumber, you can pull it up,
Like, yeah, I got itright here. First play out of the
one minute warning, Botch snapped afootman Nebraska picks it up. Hey,

(35:59):
I think they up taking a fieldgoal, Like there was still a shot
at the end. There was athrow to the end zone that just missed
Keishan Taylor. And yeah, thatone was when we go back on and
yeah, there's no other other,no other words for it other than it's
stung. I mean, between forme, I'm obviously growing up here in
Green Bay, big Packers fan.It took me longer to get over that

(36:22):
game than the twenty fifteen NFC Championshipgame against Seattle. It took me,
along any any heartbreaking loss that I'veexperienced as a fan. It took me
long longer to get over that thatNebraska, and still until they win a
playoff game, I still don't knowif I'll be true, it's one of

(36:43):
those games, all right, Malcool, hand it over to you to talk
to mister Joey B here and andget his thoughts on what's what's on your
mind? For sure, Man,Joey B was going on. Brother,
you already had a warm welcome forRich but you know, like you said,
very nice to me. Yeah,man, for sure, I'm definitely

(37:04):
interested in hearing just picking your braina little bit as the side of the
puzzle that we haven't had a chanceto speak to too often on here.
You said earlier about how you guyslike the stat that you looked up and
you know, the thousand or sodays out of the playoffs and stuff like
that, Just like I know onyour end with the coverage and stuff,

(37:27):
it takes a lot to a lotof a lot of research. And I've
actually spoke to one of my guys, Daryl Stoneham in Duke City. He's
former NFL guy, played receiver forDuke City for some time. He actually
said to me in a conversation thatconverting to doing like the media and coverage

(37:50):
side of the team actually took alot more preparation than preparing as a player.
So for you, how much preparationgoes to like, you know,
coverage and like doing the commentary andstuff like that. Yeah, I actually
here on my desk, I havethis right in front of me. I
put together one of these, likeevery week, just a spot chart of

(38:10):
you know, every guy who's onthe field, you know, position,
heightweight, where they went to school, experience, stats on the year,
stats from last week, little tidbitslike they. I think I got Kevin
Ransom on here. He played baseballin high school. Yeah. There,
So like little tidbits like that Ihave on their season schedule, where they

(38:36):
rank in the league in terms ofany team stat coaches record things like that.
So one of those every week forboth teams, and then just trying
to find those tidbits like that ifthere's an interesting storyline to follow, like
one from this past week was Blizzardhave never been on a six game winning

(38:58):
streak since that twenty two off season. You find a lot of interesting things
that you might not ever use,but it's nice to have, like I've
never put on a broadcast in oureight games this season that Kevin Ransom played
baseball in high school, but Ihave in case something of the nature comes
up. I see, I see, And I could definitely say from the
perspective of a listener, like fromthe outside looking in, it definitely does

(39:22):
make the game a lot more enjoyable. Hearing some refreshing commentary were opposed to
just you know, guys is backand forth about what's going on in the
field. Of course, you wantto know what's going on. Just hearing,
like you said, those interesting tidbitsand fun facts definitely makes it a
lot more engaging and fun for surefor you, as you know, someone

(39:45):
who does the coverage, how longdid it take you to really get used
to the game speed and you know, calling things as you see it,
while also, like you said,mentioning those fun facts and things about players.
Yeah, so, I mean mybroadcast experience actually was with the Blizzard
when I was the color commentator forfor Alex back in twenty nineteen. So

(40:07):
I was new to the game,so that this is kind of where I
got my start, and I didn'treally know anything different. I kind of
got that that first year opportunity tosee how everything adjusted. And then after
that, I I mean twenty twentyone, I took over as play by
play, So I was kind ofready from that, from that first year

(40:29):
of just feeling things out. Butyeah, definitely the indoor game is it's
interesting. It's it almost feels likea hybrid of football and then hockey because
it I mean, it's smaller,it's faster paced, it's things like that.
And you know, this year I'mat UW Madison and I you know,

(40:51):
get to broadcast a little bit ofhockey and that kind of helps just
trying to figure out the speed ofthe game and then have that translate over
once once March kick off all footballnut. I grew up here in Green
Bay. Football is a part ofme, and now being be able to
have this year round over the lastfew years is it's pretty cool. Yeah,

(41:15):
yeah, I can imagine. Man, that's good stuff and good stuff
for sure. You know, you'reat the Green Bay game and they're playing
whoever they're playing, and you're thevoice of the Blizzard and so you technically
have every right to be as biasedas you want on the call, but
at the same time, you arethe voice that people who are not there,
which is probably majority of the opposingteam or tuning in and hearing.

(41:37):
And so I remember talking with likeStacy and Rossy and a few others and
asking them, you know, likehow do you gauge, you know,
how you call a game? Andthey said, well, I mean it's
it's not necessarily that we understand thatwe're who they're hearing, and that's it's
either us or nobody or the mutebutton. But it's like we called the

(41:59):
game with the energy that we feelthe game and the plays deserve. You
know, if it's a great play, how did you approach that? When
did it click? And you know, how have you kind of adapted how
you call accordingly? Yeah, Ithink that, you know, I can
definitely understand that that frustration. Therehave been a few times on my side

(42:22):
that there are times where I'm justI'm starting to go down a path where
I'm like, I disagree with thecall or something of that nature. I'm
kind of just got you got toreel it in. I feel like in
situations like that you can be alittle biased, because obviously you are under
there the voice of the Blizzard,the Barnstormers the storm things like that.

(42:44):
But I totally agree with with whatyou just said, is that if it's
a good call or a good play, you give it its props. Like
there was a play last week whereI think Peyton rolled out and the pass
got tipped like two or three timesand it got caught by Stoche for a
touchdown. And at that game,that play was pretty cool too, and

(43:06):
you had to give it its props, give it its energy. It's a
boost. But then when there's ayou know, a big play by you
know, one handed pick by VyRivers, you give in my give it
a little bit more juice, that'sfor sure. So it is interesting and
something that not necessarily weighs on you, but something you gotta pay a little

(43:28):
bit of attention to and know thatyour audience is, like you said,
mostly the visiting audience. Well,good on you man. I know,
like I said, it's it's avery tough gig because I think a lot
of people feel like it should beone way, but in the reality it's
like it's it's the opposite. It'sall right, though, I think you've
done phenomenal job out there. Evenwith the early audio issues, you guys

(43:52):
have still had still are broadcast.So my last question for you is,
you know, from your perspective asa guy who's been part of the squad
for five years seeing the ups anddowns, what is it about this team?
You know, what is it thatis clicking for this Roberson team that
didn't click when he had Taylor andFootman and Hill and those guys. There's

(44:15):
no quit in these guys, andI think there have been multiple situations where
you know someone's gone down. There'sa big next man up mentality. You
know, guys that go down themiddle of a game, just you know,
with a little injury here and there, and someone's ready on the bench,
ready to go. This is ateam that's filled with rookies. I

(44:35):
mean, we mentioned a few guysthat are back, but there's no true
IFL veterans on this roster. Themost experiences Rafiq abdul Waheat who's in his
third season with us. But outsideof that, we got a bunch of
first, second, and third yearguys and everyone's just raring and ready to
go for their opportunity to go outand make a play, and it's just

(45:01):
winning that one more game. Thatthat is the mindset of this team play
in play out week in week out. I think losing that game to Massachusetts
week one was that was the biggestwake up call you could get. When
it comes to the fourth quarter,someone's got to step up and make the
play to win, and everyone onthis roster has done it to that point,

(45:24):
so it's exciting to see. It'srefreshing. These guys know that it's
one step at a time and theyhave not wavered from that since. And
I'm excited to see how it goesthis week going down to Moleen. Obviously
an opportunity to sweep the regular seasonseries with the playoff spot being locked up,

(45:46):
is there any kind of whatsoever ofjust the weight being lifted or like,
you know, we win, wewin. If not, you know,
like we're still we're still in it, or can you not have that
at this point? I don't thinkso. I think there's obviously you're fighting
for one this week, trying towin one more game to get a home
playoff game. You gotta stay stridefor stride with Frisco. You can you

(46:09):
know, go three or four downthe stretch and still get a home get
home field advantage, but I mean, why not go four for four.
But again, you got to takea one step at a time, and
you first step right now is winthis game. You clinch a home playoff
game over Massachusetts, you sweep theseason series. Again, there's always just

(46:30):
something that you're playing for that week. Awesome stuff. Well, Joey,
we appreciate you filling in this week. Hopefully we'll get a chance to sit
down with Max in the coming weeks. But it's been so great as an
IFL fan, just indoor football fantasygreen Bay and having the season that they're
having, especially, you know,they're one of the teams that when I
started covering the league, it wasyou know, they were a staple and

(46:51):
I've been there, love you guysover in Wisconsin and that whole fan base
and that squad. So it's justdefinitely good time to see it finally coming
together for them. So one moretime for mister Joey b the voice of
the Green Bay Blizzard and join theride that they're currently on as they are
the first one in the entire leagueto lock up a playoff seed and now

(47:15):
it's just about finishing the rest oftheir business. So Joey, thank you
so much for your time. Listenessfinishing, finishing business. Absolutely appreciate you
having me on Rich Good to meetyou, Milk, and yeah, looking
forward to tuning in every week.All right, thanks again, Joey,
We'll talk to you later. Andone more big thank you to Joey b

(47:38):
Joey Bonadonna for joining us here.It's nice to have some perspective from you
know, not just players and coachesaround the league. Everybody plays an integral
part in teams. I would knowif it wasn't for me, then Beef
would have won their first championship.I'm okay with that. You know,
it's it's a heavy burden. It'sa heavy one. But coach did call

(48:00):
me his lucky charm. No onecan ever take that away from me.
So that's my story. I'm stickingto it. Malk Hey, Hey,
I would grab that one to thewheels full man, You got it all
right. That brings us to oneof our favorite portions of the show is
pick him And because I'm the generousguy that I am, Malcolm and I

(48:22):
both went one for one. Asfar as I got one of mine right,
he got one of his right.And the scores they weren't all that
close, but close enough. Wherehe's just like, you know, maybe
I should just give him a pass. You know, he's he's been through
it this week, and in allhonesty, going through this episode, I
think it's punishment enough that his zipup is matching his comforter on his bed,

(48:45):
so I couldn't even have picked thepunishment. That good for you.
But ladies, there you have it. Malk's gonna come at you and be
like, if you think this isgood, you should see what my bets
covered. This is comfortable. Youjust see my baby. Oh man,

(49:06):
I'm assuming that his phone's been burningup after his karaoke you know which I
want it that way was the winner. I cannot wait to see that video.
So we will give we will givemalcoa pass for being such a good
sport all season. I know thatit was an idea I came up with
and kind of threw him into.But we've had fun with it. I've

(49:29):
owned up to mine, he's ownedup to his. So now we're back
to picking them again, fresh start, clean slates. And so we start
with Saturday. We have no Fridaygames. So week fifteen, Saturday,
Massachusetts on the road, taking onJacksonville. I mean, I want to

(49:50):
say mass should win this. Youand I both like Jacksonville, but at
the same time, like, Ithink mass just needs to win this.
They've really been really as of late. And as much as I like the
Sharks, I just don't think thatthey've got enough in the tank even at

(50:10):
home, to upset probably very angryand pissed off Pirates teams. So I
will take Massachusetts. I like Madsin this one too. First, I
like what you did that. Soyou said you don't think the Sharks have
enough in the tank. I don'tknow that was intentional, but I liked
it. I liked it. No, but so, uh, I think
I think Mads to get this onetoo. Man, for sure. I

(50:32):
know they're definitely uh pissed off abouttheir loss this past week, and they're
looking to you know, kind ofsecure their their spot right now a little
more. Yeah, and I alwayswent over Quad City didn't change anything necessarily.
It just didn't make anything better foranybody involved. I mean, now

(50:55):
you've got I think a one gamedifference between Tulsa, Iowa Quad City even
Sioux Falls now, and if massloses again, they could be in danger
of not just losing their number threeseed. But being knocked out altogether.
So we both like Mask to getit right. All right. Next Saturday

(51:15):
matchup, This one should be interesting, especially because both teams coming off of
a win and both teams realizing thatthey are in fact still in the mix.
It's Tulsa Oilers going to Iowa totake on the barn Stormers. Malk
who you like in this one?I like Tulsa. I like Tulsa for
sure. You know, they alwayscompete. They're definitely going to put on

(51:37):
a good show against Iowa. Ithink they're a better team, So I'm
taking Tulsa for sure. Yeah,I'm not knocking Iowa. I just think
that Tulsa getting that win over SoueFalls was bigger than Iowa getting the win
over Quad City. Big win forthe Oilers, and we think they keep

(51:59):
it going. So we both likeTulsa. Our next Saturday game. We
just talked to the voice of thisteam. It is the Green Bay Blizzard,
the only team as of right nowplayoff bound. They take on rival
Quad City, and oh man,we I don't think there's a pick we
can make that's not going to upsetsomebody on this one. But hey,

(52:20):
I will say this though I don'tlike when I feel that things are this
way with teams that I like,and that being if I pick against Quad
City they win, and if Ipick them, they lose. I don't
like it. I don't, butI am aware that that can be the
case sometimes. So I'm gonna pickgreen Bay knowing that you know, Green

(52:42):
Bay is already locked up their theirplayoff spot. Now it's just a matter
of seeding, which is still important. But if I pick them, and
it happens to be true that pickingagainst Quad City means that they win,
well, then that helps out QuadCity in their you know, postseason push.
So I will pick green Bay.You just have to put that out
for fans watching the good Old RichCurse. Man, don't start that what

(53:12):
that man said. I'll go aheadand pick Quad City. Man. You
know, we had Rudd on herelast week. Uh they I think Rudd
along with his guys, they knowthat this is one that they have to
pull out to, uh, youknow, keep themselves in a pretty good
position in Green Bay. You mentionedit when we were talking to Joey,

(53:34):
but it's easy to say. Ithink he gave you the answer that you
know he's supposed to say on onsomething like this, you know they're not
they're not taking their foot off thegas. But as a player after a
long season, knowing that you clinchedthe playoffs, but it's almost inevitable that
you're gonna kind of let up justa bit. You know. Obviously they

(53:57):
still want to win, but it'snot I don't think it's so much.
I don't think it's important to themto win as it is for Quacity at
this point. Yeah, and Itotally agree. I think if it was
a one game race right now,which it's closed, but they still have
a little bit of breathing room withFrisco, so they can afford to lose

(54:20):
one. I just don't think thatyou necessarily want to lose one. But
you're right, it's been a longseason. Your postseason fate is sealed,
so now it's about playing. Areyou gonna host the game? Are you
going to get a buye or howeverthat works. So I get it,
but yeah, I mean, it'sbeen a long season. So I also
wanted to make sure that I saidhow I picked this game very specifically because

(54:43):
Rudd's receipts. I don't I don'twant that smoke man. I just don't.
I don't need to be his receiptof the week. So we're gonna
we're gonna play it safe on that. Rudd gets it, man, I
love talking to him. Okay,So knoplex Quad City, I like Green
Bay all right. Next Saturday game, oh boy, this one bay Area

(55:08):
and Duke City in Duke City.So bay Area coming off a tough,
tough loss to San Diego. DukeCity changing things up with the coaching staff,
going different routes with the quarterback.I mean, they're just they're throwing
everything at the wall right now andseeing if it sticks. I don't know
if I necessarily agree with making acoaching change at this point in the season,

(55:30):
but I guess you know you doyou Duke City, So I will
defer to you because I know howmuch you love love your Gladiators. But
time to be real, Malk Yeah, I love the Gladiators, I love
Albuquerque, I love you know,the front office. But it's been real,

(55:52):
man, Bay Area got I'm forsure. And it's a touch on
what you said a little bit aboutDuke City. And there they're late coaching
staff changes and stuff. Gina GinaPressca and Thomas the owner of the Gladiators.
She she's the realist, you know, sweetest lady alive. But she

(56:13):
she wants she loves football. She'sa front and center at all the games.
Uh, she's talking her talk.You know, you can't you can't
get her to sit down during thegames. She one thing she loves,
uh, outside of the players themselvesis the team. And and uh,
she loves Albuquerque. She wants tosee them, she wants to she wants

(56:37):
to give Albuquerque what she feels likethey deserve. And uh, that's a
that's a winning team. Uh.Nonetheless, bay Area is gonna win.
And I'd say that without a shadowof a though. So yeah, I
think it's pretty obvious. We weboth agree that Duke City will not be
the one that bites Malcolm in theass this week, so we both pick
bay Area. I like the Panthersto win. So the next game,

(57:01):
this is my interesting game of theweek, Sue Falls in Frisco. And
it's because Sue Falls is kind oflike Quad City where I just never know
from one week to the next,like are they going to win this or
are they are they not? Likeare they outmatched? Are they going to
go toe to toe and with Friscothough they have become one of the quietest

(57:21):
third or fourth ranked teams ever,just like with Vegas, but Vegas was
because of a losing streak they wenton. The Frisco is just like they're
not being talked about as much,and I'm not sure if that should be
a red flag or what, butthis is I feel like a game to
watch and it's one that Frisco definitelyneeds to win. Sue Falls is going
to go in there looking to winbecause they know that they're still technically in

(57:43):
it after Iowa beat Quad Cities,so there's a lot that can happen here.
I will go with Frisco the hometeam for sure. I like that.
I like that. I'm going withFrisco as will. I definitely agree.
And just to kind of touch onwhat you said about them not getting
big, kind of like an underthe radar team who is sneaking into those

(58:05):
spots and you know, just takingtheir time with it seemingly, I think,
does it right where they want tobe, all right, So we
both like Frisco in that one.Then the next Saturday game, another Super
Saturday on the schedule here for Weekfifteen, is Arizona and Vegas. So
this is a rematch from Week twowhen Arizona stunned the Rattlers with a walk

(58:28):
off field goal and went on thelongest winning streak of the season. I
mean, at least pending what GreenBay does, but they were the sole
remaining undefeated team in the IFL.And now we're at a very different point
in the season where both are comingoff of when wins. They both needed
Vegas to snap their losing streak andArizona just to keep pace with San Diego

(58:50):
and San Antonio and now apparently NorthernArizona. So no big prize here.
As far as who I'm picking,I'm going to go with Vegas. I
was about to say I could havepicked for you. I mean, I
would love to say Vegas, Ireally would, but it's hard to say
that with confidence. You know,Arizona seems to be catching fire at the

(59:14):
perfect time of the season. Youknow, Yeah, I'm gonna go on.
I'm gonna say Arizona. Man,I like I like the Ratlers.
With this one, Malcolm doesn't justlike the Rattlers. He likes it if
he beats me and pick them.It's it's partly because he picked the Rattlers
to win. That's it. That'sit. I'm hoping. I'm hoping that's
when it comes down. He knowsit, thinks that much more for me.

(59:37):
Our last Saturday game is the SanDiego Strike Force, fresh off of
win against the Tucson Sugar Skulls whohave not seen a win in quite some
time, and Malcol leave it toyou, uh to pick this one first.
I know you got a soft spotfor both teams, so this should
be interesting, but so definitely geta sauce for both of the guys.

(59:57):
But at this point, I'm justbeing real and not really leaving too much
to hope these days, because Imean, obviously it hasn't been working out
for me, having lost the Pigosthree what three weeks in almost, I'm
saying San Diego, you know,it's just like we said earlier, Tuson
just they have to find a wayto get together and San Diego is not

(01:00:22):
the team to help them get ittogether. Yeah, I'm going to take
San Diego as well. Their winagainst Bay Area is huge because I said
if they play twice, they needto get at least one of them.
But this one is huge because thisis a game that you're supposed to win,
right and so to keep pace withNAZ and Arizona and San Antonio,
like, you got to have thisgame. If you don't, you might

(01:00:43):
as well just give your playoff spotto one of the other teams, because
what does that say? Really,so we both like San Diego. That'll
bring us to our week fifteenth finale, the lone Sunday game, and this
will be a good one. Thisvery well could be as far as that
fourth and final spot in the West. Like this game could determine it.
It's when the San Antonio Gun Slingerstake on the Northern Arizona Wranglers in a

(01:01:07):
battle for best cowboy outlaw logo,which, in my opinion is the gun
Slingers. They have a superior logo. But really it is about so much
more. I said that if SanAntonio won their first three from when we
you know, did that outlook onthe Eastern and Western Conference, that they
would be the ones. This isthe third one, and it is a

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huge one now with NAS losing toArizona and so really, if the Gun
Slingers win, they could be inthe postseason with Arizona and nas could be
out entirely. That's that's where we'vethe point we've reached in the season.
So this one huge implications. I'mgoing to take san Antonio because I need

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to back up what I've been sayingas far as what they need to do
to get to the postseason. Butwe'll see what Malcolm says for who he
likes in this one. So andyou know, I have to speak from
the experience of a player. That'sthe only perspective that that no personally,
So I'm gonna say I'm gonna takethat, and I'm gonna tell you why.
Like you said, this can potentiallydetermine the ultimate trajectory of how there

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the rest of their season goes,whether they make it to the postseason or
not. At this point in theseason, everybody, people are banged up,
people are tired. It's just that'sjust how the game goes. You
know, that attrition sets in andit's it's it's hard to ignore that as
a factor. So it a lotof times doesn't come down to who has

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the better athletes. It comes downto who wants it more, and that
that will that wants to can besparked and sending an overdrive by the thought
of not making a postseason. Youknow, I've been there before, I've
seen it, and I think NASthey know their backs against the wall right
now. They know that they haveto win this game. They know that

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it's, like I said, itcan potentially be the end of their postseason
hopes, so they don't. Theyhave a lot of weapons on that team.
So we'll see how it goes.But I'm definitely taking NAS in this
one, all right. So we'redifferent on three games, including the week
fifteenth finale, which I mean,this is the game of the week,

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playing and simple because the regardless ifSan Diego and Arizona win or lose,
these teams need to win this gamein order to keep their postseason hopes alive.
So malcol and I will be gluedto that that will do it for
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So, malk this has been agood one. I still cannot get
over your your zip up and comfortercombo Man's I think I'll make this a
thing, though I think I'm onthe passable commodations. I gotta. I
think I'm liking it's a little toomuch. He shows up in plaid next
week. He's got a flannel buttonup and flannel sheets. It's just oh
my god. Oh and I'll belike, what have I done? What

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have I started? Okay, Soonce again he is Father malk As,
ridiculously dressed and coordinated as he is. We love him, you see him
all the time. And he willhave a karaoke video for us on the
social very surely. And I am, as always the tea man, Richard

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Teman. This has been episode fourhundred and ninety two of the Fan Show.
So once again, thank you fortuning in. We will see you
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