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September 14, 2023 39 mins
Jonathan Glass ND
https://www.jonathanglassnd.com/
https://healingessencecenter.com/


Dr. Adrienne Edwards
https://www.amazon.com/Firescaping-Your-Home-Readiness-Wildfire/dp/1643261355
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Dan Dain
https://daintorpy.com/attorneys/daniel-p-dain/
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Don't you always want to be thebest you can be. The Frankie Boyer
Show it's more than a lifestyle show. It's a show about living in today's
world. I think something is happening. Frankie enthusiastically brings an amazing, eclectic
mix to the airwaves. That oneof the reasons she's earned legions of loyal
fans is very simple. When youlisten to the Frankie Boyer Show, you

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just never know what's going to happen. So listen for yourself. Here is
Frankie Boyer and welcome. It's FrankieBoyer. And I absolutely am so excited
because joining us today is doctor JonathanGlass. We go back so many years.

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I don't even want to we'll bedating ourselves, so we won't do
that. But I will just tellyou that the people in Conquered Massachusetts are
very lucky to have him and havehis practice there because he is such an
extraordinary practitioner, so open minded,so into how we function in the world.

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Iovetic medicine. And one of thethings that has happened is he started
doing this cleanse and this cleanse andif for anyone out there, if you
are waking up fatigue. You know, you wake up and you're still tired.
You don't have the energy to dowhat you're doing. You know,

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you need to change your eating habits. You know you do? Yeah,
I know, stress is really gettingto you. Then you need to listen
and if you want to lose anextra few pounds on top of it all,
but you need to listen to whatdoctor Jonathan Glass has to say because
this is his specialty. So hestarted doing this cleanse for his patience years

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ago, and everybody wanted to knowabout the cleans, and it just got
bigger and bigger and bigger, andthen the book came out and he gave
everybody an opportunity to find out aboutthe cleans because the Total Life Cleans is
the book and it's an amazing,absolutely phenomenal book and it's available on paperback,

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by the way, on Amazon,Total Life Cleans Book. And so
now he's doing another expanded version becauseif you want to be the best that
you can be, the next nineweeks will absolutely put you into that category

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in that shape. And doctor JonathanGlass, and I never call you doctor,
but you are you're You've been doingthis for so long and I think
people need to have a break fromthe crazy life that we're all living.
And you know, we've gotten outof COVID and we feel like we're getting

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right back in it, especially inthis area. In our area, there's
been so many people getting sick thisfall early fall, and tell us why
we need to cleanse first of all, and welcome to the program. Thank
you, Frankie. I really appreciateit. It's always great to talk to
you. And yeah, I meancleansing has been part of natural medicine for

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thousands and thousands of years. Evenwhen the water was clean, the air
was clean, the food was organic, naturally, people still needed to cleanse.
It's natural a couple of times ayear for the body to hold onto
things, and then it's natural acouple of times a year for the body
and want to let go of thingsand to reset. And the times that

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we're living in now, it isjust so essential to help the body let
go of all kinds of toxins.And we're talking about toxins and the food,
toxics from herbicides and pesticides, toxinsin the water, toxins in the
air, toxins that we've ingested toxinsthat we get in so many different ways,

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and these things interrupt the innate,the beautiful innate intelligence of the body,
and then we start feeling sluggish,tired, We gain weight, we
sometimes feel depressed. I mean alot of people have mood issues and grumpiness
and irritability and depression just from toxicity, just from how they're eating the abundance

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of junk food. So the cleanseis an opportunity to really reset. It's
not a starvation program. People gothrough this and they discover food again in
a really really healthy way. Butyou know, we have to say,
and it's I'm being really really honest. We don't always like to hear it,
but we are exposed on this planetto toxins that we've never been exposed

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to before. You know, youknow, a hundred years ago, or
even or two hundred years ago,it's over one hundred thousand chemicals, man
made chemicals in the environment. We'refinding now the science is really doing the
research and discovering how it's really impactingthe body. I mean, cancer,
autoimmune diseases. It's just it's rampantright now. And I'm just always been

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in favor of empowering people to livethe best lives it possibly can and reduce
those toxins and live and energized,mentally clear, emotionally clear life as much
as possible. So cleansing is afoundational part of that. So that's why

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I've been meeting this for twenty fiveyears now, and we just see wonderful,
wonder for results of people, peopletaking their left back, connecting with
their inner joy, with their mentalclarity, and their sense of empowerment and
well being. Jonathan, this isnot something new. This is cleansing,

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as you say, has been donefor a very long time. And when
people think of cleansing, they geta little nervous. I don't know if
I can do this. I don'tthink. I don't what if I get
a diarrhea or what if I startvomiting. It's not that kind of a

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cleanse. This is not shocking,radical, disruptive. This is an easy
way. It eases you into ahealthier way of life, and you do
it in such a brilliant way.So explain a little bit about that.

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Yeah, So you know, Idid a couple of cleanses in the eighties
and they were radical, and I'mglad I did them, and they were
great experiences. And I remember oneday, after coming off of the cleans
the wrong way, saying to myself, one day, I'm going to teach
people how to do this, becausecoming off of a cleans entering into a
cleanse is just about as important asa cleanse itself, because the point is

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is to have the experience and thencome out of it with some foundational,
basic bottom line changes. So wego into the cleans very gently, We
slowly start removing the common food stressors, and then we get into we have
some smoothies and a few supplements,but there's a lot of education to a

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very common sense education. I meana lot of people hear the word are
veda and they think it's some fancytechnological or to know Sanskrit terminology, but
you don't. You just need to. It's common sense, common sense health
principles. And when the mind andthe heart connect and the body connects and

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everything starts working well together, andit becomes really really easy to get into
the deeper layers of the cleanse.Once we do that, we gradually come
out. So we eliminate some foods, we do some deep cleansing practices,
and dietary changes. I mean,yes, we're going to remove sugar,

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We're going to remove dairy. Youknow, those are just a couple of
things. We're going to remove refinedwheat. But even that's done gradually so
that it's not a shock to thebody. We don't like to shock the
body, and the body can adapt. And over the years I found that
people, even sometimes people that havejoined the cleans and I think, wow,
this is going to be interesting.People are very resilient when they're given

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the right support and information. Peoplecan do anything if they put their minds
to it. And so I wantto make people aware that absolutely. So
you may not be aware of thechemicals that you're using, and that's part
of the for a lot of peoplelistening, they're not as into health,

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So a lot of people may notunderstand that the mints that you go to
to to have our breath mints orwhatever, the chemicals and the toxins in
them, the gum that you're chewing, you know, we are not We
were not many of us are notaware of what we're consuming in a daily

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basis. So what you're doing ismaking people aware of what they're eating.
And is there a chemical problem.Is there something in that food? Oh
I didn't know it had sure,Oh I didn't realize. So it's also
that awareness that starts to happen,a very heightened awareness of what am I

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eating? Right? Well, waita minute, that dryer sheet is so
toxic that I'm drawing my clothes withand I'm sleeping on those sheets right.
So, and it's an accumulation,you know, when you're doing a couple
things here and there, But whenwe're doing most people are unaware that,
like you said, there are somany different avenues that we're exposed to these

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talks, and they build up intime. They definitely build up in time.
Oh, absolutely absolutely. I can'tbelieve it's already time for us to
take a break. I can't believeit. Give us the best website for
people, and we'll come right backwith doctor Jonathan Glass. Okay, Jonathan
Glass ND dot com Jonathan Glass Glassn D for Natropathic Doctor dot com,

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and that's very can find information aboutthe upcoming cleans and a little bio about
myself. And the book is thebook is available wherever books are sold,
Total Life Cleans, and we'll beright back. I'm Frankie Boyer's Stay Tune

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and Welcome Back. It is FrankieBoyer and doctor Jonathan Glasses with us and
his nine nine Weeks to Your BestLife is coming up the end of September,
so you still have time, andhis book is also available. The

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book is such a great book.It's really full of tremendous, tremendous information.
It's called Total Life, Clean's Book. And I can just tell you
that I've had a couple of copiesand they've been taken from me and never
returned Jonathan, just so you know, it's really a good book. It's

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very thick, thick and beautiful andfull of good stuff. And I would
love for you to talk a littlebit about we're you know, we're all
under tremendous stress and life. Lifeis very stressful. On a good day,
I was a dear friend was infrom out of town. I was
showing her how the neighborhood has changedin Seaport and we were over at Newberry

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Street and lovely areas of Boston.But one thing she said, hasn't changed
the traffic, And it was absolutelyhorrific and the stress of oh my gosh,
we gotta get back she had togo. So, you know,
it was like the stress of beingin the car and nowhere to go because
it's bumper to bumper traffic in downtownBoston. You know, crazy, crazy,

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crazy, We're all under stress,but there are some people that have
never been able to get back fromwhere they were before COVID and mental health
has become a serious, serious problem. Talk to us about the benefits for

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our mental clarity with this cleanse yes. I mean, one thing is so
essential, it's really simple. There'sdefinitely a connection between the body mind,
and I mean most people know thatand they're aware of it to some degree.
What a lot of people aren't soaware of is how much control we

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have over that. And you know, really, at least for a phase
of time, cleaning up the diet, eating delicious food, cleaning up the
diet, really focusing on some selfcare practices, whether that's a little bit
of breathing practices or yoga or goodexercise, some very simple meditation, things

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like that. If we really focuson it for a period of time,
it becomes actually very pleasurable. AndI would say that nine percent of the
people that go through the cleans experienceimproved mental clarity, a greater sense of
inner well being, an inner senseof peace and calmness. And there these

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are blessings that and experiences that peopleare really really looking for and really needing
these days, because, like yousaid, I mean after COVID or during
COVID, there was a huge shift. My practice has changed tremendously, and
the challenges that people are going throughnow physically, mentally, emotionally very different.

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But the principles of health are thesame. The things that actually bring
us back to balance mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually are all the same,
the same principles, so we canWhat we do is during the clans
we bring those back in. Wegive people an opportunity to focus on them
and the good thing is they getto experience it, and many people find

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that their need for you know,even medications like blood pressure, metic medications
or cholesterol, even antidepressant medication maydecrease, and in many cases we've experienced
over the years, it is eliminatedbecause when people do the right thing for

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their health, things come into balance. The mind, the body, the
heart, the emotions, the spirit, everything starts lining up and people just
feel better, feel more like ahuman, feel more like yourself and more
empowered to move forward in life.A lot of people have lost that sense
of well being and confidence and hopeand excitement about life. So no matter

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what's happening out there, it's reallyimportant. I mean, one of my
missions is to keep you emphasizing thatpoint that we do have some control.
We're not the controllers of everything,but we do have control over certain aspects
of our life, certain aspects ofour health. But it's really up to

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us. And when we when wemake those changes, it's often remarkable,
and people's lives change for the better. So a lot of people are saying,
can I do this cleanse and stillgo out to lunch with the girls?
Can I do this cleanse and stillhave dinner out with friends? You

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know? So I would say yes. And but with the new new education,
so if you're going out for dinner, you're going to know what to
ask for. You're going to knowwhat to say I'm avoiding, and you
you know, we actually talk aboutthat, how to be direct with your
you know, with your waiter,waitress, and what you're asking for.

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I mean, generally, during thecleans we recommend that you don't go out
for dinner. That often, althoughsome people travel, some people will have
to go out for dinner. Exactly. It's like making better choices, making
better choices, so it's finely possible. I mean, I don't think we
realize the amount of fats and preservativesand additives and hidden hidden fats, the

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hidden additives, the hidden sugars ineverything, including everything, yeah, including
our salad dressings. I mean,you go out to eat and you have
this lovely piece of salmon if youeat fish, and you think you're so
good, and you have you know, vegetables without any butter and nothing,
and people think better is terrible,but without any oil and or or anything

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on it. And then you putthe salad dressing on your salad and you
may not be aware that that saladdressing has a lot of chemicals in it,
right, exactly exactly, So forthe cleans you recommend, you know,
just have them bring olive, oiland lemon. You know, you
put a little salt and pepper.But you know, honestly, during the
cleans, people get through it andthey're perfectly happy with the simple people.

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You know, a simple thing canI just share for dinner? That's true,
Those things impass our moods also impact. I did the cleans. I've
done the cleans so many times.It's it's awesome cleans. It's an awesome
cleanse. And one time, Iway back when when we were in person
before Hybrid and Zoom, there wasa woman that was in the cleans with

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us that had MS. She camein with a cane and had a very
hard time maneuvering the stairs. Iremember watching her. By the end of
the cleans, she didn't even haveher cane. I'm not kidding. It's
amazing. It's awesome. You know, we've seen and it still surprises me.

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Frankie, it really does when Isee these transformations that people go through,
and it's that's built my confidence inwanting to keep doing this, and
it's given me the faith that,you know, if you just make these
changes and give ourselves opportunity, thesewonderful things can happen. Wonderful things really
can happen, and they do.I'm encouraging your basis. I'm encouraging everybody

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to check out the website. Workwith Jonathan. It's so awesome. He's
so awesome. I think we're outof time. Why don't you give the
website and all of that. Okay, yep, So it's Jonathan Glass ND
dot com. And for a littlebit more information about our whole center,
it's Healing Essencenter dot com. Bothplaces you can access information about the clowns.

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And yeah, and our phone numbernine seven eight three six nine nine
two two eight. So yeah,better Healing Umcenter dot com or Jonathan Glass
ND dot com. Thank you somuch, doctor Jonathan Glass. We'll take
a quick break and be right back. I am Frankie Boyer's day tune and

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welcome back. It is Frankie boyor in Doctor Adrian Edwards joins us now
one of the authors of fire EscapingYour Home, a manual for readiness in
wildfire country. But you know whatI have to tell you something, doctor,
welcome to the program, not justand not just in wild in wildfire

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areas, because we are now seeingfires all over and horrific, horrific experiences
in this country with fire, andboy, I don't know where do you
want to even begin with this conversationbecause it's so it's so important, and

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it's so immense, and you're absolutelyright, any place can burn, and
in fact, the very first massivefire that caused major mortality here in the
United States within the late eighteen hundredsin Pestigo, Wisconsin. So we do
have these drought cycles in all overthe US. And of course we've seen

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Louisiana burning this summer as well asCanada. Right, so we even felt
it understood where we live a littlebit better and how to manage that education.
I was gonna say, we evensmell the fires from Canada here in
Boston quite a bit during the summer, quite a bit. Oh my goodness,

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wow. Yeah. Yeah, Butyou're a botanist, plant ecologist,
a garden designer, environmental consultant,teacher, decays of experience, and we're
so thrilled because because of your background. But let's let's begin from the basics.

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So should every home have a kitto get ready? That's where everyone
should start actually, and of courseemergencies natural disasters are not limited to wildfires,
so everyone should have an emergency actionplan. Rachel and I, my
co author, have boxes by ourbackdoor. We each keep boxes by our

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back doors full of a few dayssupply of food. When there's when wildfire
season comes up, we fill foodsafe containers of water, and we have
phone charger backups. But we alsohave our emergency plan on paper because the
first thing that goes out, aswe saw in in Lahinah in Maui,

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was that south cell phone towers godown and communication breaks down. And so
if you need to coordinate with yourfamily, you need to know where the
rendezvous. Where's the safe rendezvous pointfor us? In wildfire country, it
might be uh, it's good tohave multiple sites. And some of those

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sites might be you know, aparking lot, a big parking lot,
Yeah, away from structures, rightwherever. So, but in Buon it
could be uh, you could alsohave fire. You could also have fire,
earthquake. You certainly can have tornadoesand hurricanes. No, no,

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no, I have to tell youthat prepared south south of South Boston are
all of these old triple deckers anddouble deckers and they're made of wood,
and you know, and I knowthat they could go up in a second,
in a second, yes, yeah, And we have we've seen that

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with wildfires too. That if youknow, parts of Oakland burned during a
wildfire, which is a completely urbanarea. So when you have a big
fire, one of the biggest waysthat buildings of night is actually from flying
embers, not so much just houseto house. On the other hand,

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many of us in the US nowhave wood fences, and wood fences are
one of you know, it's dryfuel and that makes railroad tracks between houses
right for fire to travel. Sowe should all be thinking about not just
emergency plans, but just look atthe potential fuel around your house. Another

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thing to consider, of course,is what kind of flammable household chemicals do
you store in your house? Andyou should maybe consider consolidating goes into one
corner of the house or in thataway from bedrooms. Yeah, a lot
of really good ideas that happens.Yeah, a lot of the cleanup that

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happens after a wildfire. You know, they don't want people going in there
because they're hazardous. Household waste needsto be cleaned up so it's safe to
walk around, So the hairspray,the draino, the nail polish remover,
all of those things that you don'tthink you're any big deal, but they

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are when there's a fire, theyare. And just being able to tell
someone after a house burns down wherethose things were in the house can help
and clean up. So, youknow, consolidating them can help in that
process. If you are houseburns yes, no, okay ahead please, Oh

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I was just gonna say anytime ahouse burns down. You also have to
consider the fact that a house isnot the same as a forest, and
in that there are lots of othermaterials that we build our homes with,
the plastic coating on wires, thePBC pipes and can exude chemicals. But

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you also have to watch out forand so the like in Paradise where we
live near here in Chico, California, the residents in Paradise couldn't drink their
water out of their cap even thoughit was testing safe at the water plant
because the pipes going to their homewere made of PVC that melted partially and

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released some of those otherwise inert chemicals. Right, So there are ever we
do when we build our homes thatyou have to keep in mind in a
disaster scenario. Have the people everbeen able to rebuild in Paradise? What's
happening the latest? I'm just curious. Yes, there are people rebuilding.

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There are people. There's even asmall contractor who's working with fire very fire
resistant modular modular building of homes.You know, like not trailers, but
the component pieces that can be puttogether quickly. Though the whole town is

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still a mere shadow of its formerself, and many people left the area
permanently, and some people just arehanging onto their land up there, but
they can't afford to rebuild because theinsurance didn't cover their losses. Yeah,
I know, it's so sad,it's so devastating, devastating as an ecologist,

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is this one of the worst yearsyou've seen? Doctor? Huh?
Who? Hell? It depends onwhere you live, right. This has
been a horrible year for people inthe Midwest, for people in the north
and northeast. The southeast has seena lot of really high temperatures, but
actually on the west coast it's beena mild er somewhere than normal. And

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because of all the rainfall we got, we actually haven't seen as much wildfire
compared to recent previous years. Yeah, yeah, I should say, oh
boy, it takes a long timeto to rebuild. And give us some

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more tips speed. We don't havea lot of time left with you.
Give us a couple of tips thatyou would recommend for us that we should
be aware of and in our homes. Yes, So saying you have a
home in the city and you decideto move up into the hills or into
a more rural environment, those interfaceand intermixed areas with housing and wildland areas

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are absolutely most vulnerable for wildfire.And yet when we move to those spaces
we make if we're not careful,we're going to make Swiss cheese of them
and kind of ruin the habitats.So the whole A major thrust of fire
scaping your home is that you needto support native wild life and native wild

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plants in your landscaping, and thatlandscaping can actually be maintained in a way
to help protect your home. Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. When are
we finally going to get materials thatwill be sustainable and help us survive fires?

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Will that ever happen in our lifetime? Oh, that's a really good
question. You could actually look toplaces like Australia where wildfires in many parts
of that country. Of course theydon't have a dense of population, but
they have learned some big lessons onhow to fight wildfires, how to prepare

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for wild Doctor, we're out oftime. I'm so sorry, thank you,
thank you, thank you. Doctor. Fire escaping your home and that
is the book, and we soappreciate your time place for Instagram and wild
fire escaping. The Louie is thename of it. Thank you so much.
We'll take a quick breaking be rightback. This is Franks and welcome

(31:15):
back. And I'm so proud asa Bostonian to have all of you meet
Dan Dane, author of A Historyof Boston, and we are so thrilled
you're with us today. You havetaken on this massive undertaking called A History
of Boston. Why so? Iso? I love Boston. I'm from

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Boston, and I didn't actually intendto write a book. I just really
love the history of Boston and wantedto understand it more. And I my
law I'm a lawyer by day,and I represent real estate developers who,
when they make investments in the cityare sort of making a bet that the
city's period period right now that we'rein what I call high urbanism of people

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wanting to live, workplace, studyin the city, visit the city,
he's got to continue. And soI had all these thoughts in my head
about the city. And so inDecember of twenty seventeen, I went around
my house and pulled off by theway I got off the shelf about Boston,
and by the way you started takingyou're you're one of Boston's top lawyers,

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So we just have to mention thatas well. Well. Thanks.
I've had a very successful career representingcommercial real estate developers, and so as
an advocate for them, I feltI really needed to understand the history of
Boston more. And as I starteddoing research on the history, really for
my own education, I was takingnotes, and you know, it was

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I sort of had a twenty pageoutline that I thought I would just sort
of use to refer to periodically,and then it was fifty pages because I
got into it and was enjoying itso much, and then one hundred pages,
and I realized that they was nosingle volume book that told the whole
history of the city from its logicfortune to the present. And so,
all right, Dan, Dan,I have a I have a couple of

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questions. First of all, whyoh why would we ever give up that
the most gorgeous city hall I thinkever, the old city Hall on School
Street. Why would we give thatup for the monstrosity that is so disgusting

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in Government Center today? Why didthey do that? Dan Well. In
hindsight, it was a terrible disaster. The twentieth century policies were largely motivated
by good intentions, horribly executed.It was a period of great decline for
the city and the city was wentfrom eight hundred thousand people in nineteen fifty

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to in nineteen eighty cents five hundredand twenty thousand. We lost almost three
hundred three decades. We're leaving thecity. And so there was this belief
of needing to bring trying to competewith the suburbs and bring the suburbs and
jobs back into the city. Andso there was a sense that Boston needed
a government center or center of business, but also the sense of let's tear

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down our dense neighborhoods and replace themwith sort of suburban type development, and
that was unquestioned at the time.What's sort of remarkable about all the urban
renewal and the loss of old neighborhoods, and in particular, as you mentioned,
City Hall, which was where ScullySquare used to be. We we
tore down would fall into disuse,but it was a great center of the

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city, Scully Square, and suchan enormous loss. We lost the New
York Streets area, which is overwhat's Ink Block today, and the West
End, of course, and partsof the South End of course, it
got wiped out, wiped out completely, and then we have this stupid building,
tragic loss for the city. Tragic, tragic, stupid, stupid building,

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Boston. There's no rhyme or reason. By the way, is it
true cows kind of determined what streetswe we used today the cow pass,
Yes and no. So this iswhat's interesting. Uh, streets were put
down where cows did wander. Butfrom my from my research on it,

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most of the cow paths were straight. The cow pass did not meander.
Most of the meandering roads were morebecause of adhering to the natural contours of
a small peninsula surrounded by water withlots of coves and so, yes,
some of the some of the streetswere laid down by cows, but cows
actually tend to walk straight. Sothe intricate street pattern we have in Boston

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is really not attributable to cows.But cows did contribute to the fact that
we have streets. It is sofunny, and I have a question we
we have I was I'm blown awayby there's an area for everyone from out
of state that you're not familiar withBoston. Seven ten years ago, maybe

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eight years ago, the Natural ProductsShow came to Boston and it was booed
out of town. They got outquicker than they could because the convention the
new Convention Center, could not accommodatewith hotels in the area or in restaurants.
Well, the fastest, in myopinion, one of the fastest growing

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neighborhoods is now Seaport and it isone massive high rise after another after another
after another, and some people callit the concrete jungle. That is some
development, isn't it. Well,the Seaport's interesting. There's a lot to
criticize of it, and there's aseries of factors why visually it's perhaps not

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as attractive as we'd like. Someof the factors are federal aviation limitations on
height, and so if limit heightand you're trying to with land costs being
high and labor material costs being high, developers need to build out to the
setback lines, and so it tendsto push buildings down and make squat boxy
type buildings. It was also laidout, you know, historically it's landfill

(37:16):
and then was used by the railyards, and Boston had a vision for
it in the seventies and eighties asa new industrial district, and industry tends
to like large blocks, and sothe street grid was laid out with the
view of it being an industrial neighborhood. So you have very very large city
blocks. But what we've learned fromgood urban building is the most walkable and

(37:37):
interesting neighborhoods have small blocks, andso it was not really laid out well
to be a neighborhood. So ithad had a number of challenges to be
to being successful. And yet ifyou walk around downtown at night today,
it's it's empty, it's dead,it's dark, There aren't there are very
few people. There aren't a lotof restaurants. You walk around the seaport
at night today and it's absolutely packedwith people. It's fiber and it's full

(37:58):
of restaurants. It's ride criticized isnot being as diverse as it should be,
but it's so absolutely absolutely bring diversityinto the city. But someone from
the North End, we have it. I think we have it all here
in the North End, but that'sjust my own personal bias. We're almost
out of time it really is.It's such a fun neighborhood. Hey Dan,

(38:21):
this was great. Give us thebest website. So I have a
lot. I don't have a bookwebsite, but I have a low firm
website with information about where you canbuy the book. It's www dot DANTORPI
dot com, which is the nameof my firm, d AI n p
O r PY dot com. Andby the way, Boston was the home

(38:42):
of the Great Puritan Migration, theAmerican Revolution, the Industrial Revolution, the
first civil rights movement. It goeson and on and on. We didn't
even get to any of those,so maybe you'll come back and talk about
that as well. Thank you,thank you, thank you, and thank
all of you. This has beenan the rendition of the Frankie Boyer Show.
Thanks for listening. Make it agreat day, everybody, and as

(39:06):
always, smile, oh smile,and lady tomorrow you'll see the light as
still worth while if you somemorrow,somebody
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