Ravi Hutheesing "PIVOT: Empowering Students Today to Succeed in an Unpredictable Tomorrow"

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PIVOT: Empowering Students Today to Succeed in an Unpredictable Tomorrow

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Boyer. Welcome, It is FrankieBoyer. So glad you're with us today.
And many people from younger generations arewondering, are absolutely wondering. Are

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they going to have jobs? Willwill artificial intelligence take over? Will they
be able to be trained in askill that will be obsoletely? Well a
third So this was a new surveythat found almost half Americans think artificial intelligence

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could easily replace their jobs. Soit's from Bloomberg. A third of employees
surveyed are already using AI at work. So what does that mean for them?
For the next generation of workers?And joining us today is Education and
Global Workplace expert and I have tosay, Robbie, Robbie huttiasing author of

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Pivot, Empowering Students today to Succeed, kind of surprising how high those numbers
are that people really think AI isgoing to knock them out. You know,
it was just a few years agowhen it was the opposite, where
it was seventy five percent or soof people thought that their jobs were safe.

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But now AI has just become soapparent, you know, and so
it's such a big part of theconversation that statistics really flipped and everybody's starting
to get a little scared about it, and you know, maybe with good
reason, but you know, atthe same time, where there are challenges,
there are opportunities. And that's whatI try to focus on and when

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I give my keynote speeches to educationleadership, that's what we're talking about.
How do we convert these challenges intoopportunities so that our students today really can
succeed in the future. So,Robbie, we interviewed two high school students
a couple of weeks ago. Theywere absolutely brilliant. They came up with
a new technology using AI to helpwith eyesight, and it was brilliant and

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their technology and their background and whenyou listen to these two young high school
kids, so this is an exampleof how they were using it, using
AI to enhance and to create newtechnology. And I think that we forget
that that's that's what this is allabout. But I did see I have

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to say, Robbie, I sawa brand new list of the top thirty
movies coming out for the fall,and one of the movies is about AI
taking over and it's about robots thatjust take control. And I think that

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this is a trend and I thinkthat this is where this is. This
is a concern a lot of peoplehave. Well, you know, Steve
Wasney at co founder of Apple,he said some years ago I heard him
in an interview and he basically saidthe same thing. He's really scared scared
of what technology can do. Imean, when AI starts making AI,

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you know, do we lose controlover it as a human beings? And
does it you know, do westart to become the pets of the robots?
You know? So I think that'swhat a lot of these movies explore.
And you know, I think it'sit's good to keep that in check.
It's good to stay aware of youknow, what that possible. He
looks like. But at the sametime, you know, then your other
example of these two high school students, I mean, look at what they're

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doing. They're doing exactly what weneed to be teaching them to do,
which is to embrace technology, touse it in a way the benefits society,
to stay in control of it,but not be afraid of it.
It's it is, you know,at this point, it is a tool,
and it's a tool that we needto be using as a you know,

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as a force for good and aforce for productivity and efficiency and all
of those things. So you know, when we ask this question, right,
you know, asking the question willthese kids have jobs in the future,
Statistics tell us that forty percent ofthe jobs today are going to be
automated within the next ten years.And what that means is that about sixty
five percent of today's students are goingto work in jobs that we don't even

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know about yet, that haven't beencreated. So there's lots to be excited
about as well. You know,that's I think that's really the point.
I also want to say that technologyscares the heck out of you, and
should It's at times. But acouple of weeks ago, we were on

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the way to a location and wewe had our phones because we rely on
GPS. I put on I putin a separate set of directions, and
he put in a separate set inhis phone, and we got two.

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It was a very very hot dayand we were in the country and we
got two different, totally different setsof directions that were really confusing, and
one route kept taking us around ina circle like and I said that this
is we've we've been down this roadbefore. It's like, no, yeah,

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we literally have been down this roadtwice already. And it was it
was maddening, and it added anextra hour I'm not kidding, an extra
hour to where our destination was.And again it was very hot and we
were in the country. But buteven technology today can fail us. And

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that's my point is that we needto have backups as well. You know.
It's uh, you know, mybackground really was as a musician.
But after that, and I wasa guitar player for the band Hanson back
in the late nineties, top sellingband in the world. Yeah at the

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time, you remember Hanson, ofcourse I do. Yeah, And it
was it was an amazing, amazing. Actually your band, your band,
your band was a top selling bandand and Triple Grammy nomand and my goodness,
yes, you were on the stagesof the White House, Madison Square

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Garden, the Tonight Show, GoodMorning America, Saturday Night Live. I
mean, Robbie, you have beeneverywhere as a rock star. Yeah,
and you know, it was areally, really exciting time in my life.
But I also also always call youknow, when I tell my audiences
about my time in Hanson, Irefer to Hanson at the Harvard Business School
of Rock and Roll because it wasalso such a learning opportunity and a and

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a you know, lifelong learning opportunityof you know, the music business and
the things that were really important tome. But after the industry basically collapsed
because of ye uk and Napster andpeer to peer file sharing, you know,
my my career in the music industrywent with it, and I some

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years later pivoted and became a pilot. And one of the great things about
becoming a pilot is I found thatthe cockpit of an airplane was the greatest
classroom I had ever been. Andone of the reasons is because it taught
me data triangulation, which is whatyou're talking about with this GPS situation where
you had two different sources that wereconflicting each other. You know, in

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the confit of an airplane, younever rely on one or two sources to
tell you what your airplane doing.You always look for the third, the
tiebreaker, and then you ask,you know, does this all make sense?
And I think to your point thattechnology does fail us at times,
and therefore we have to have thecommon sense skills to be in, the

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analytical skills, the critical thinking skillsto be able to say, well,
wait a second, this just doesn'tmake sense. Let me try and figure
out something else that will help meunderstand what's going on. So we have
so much to talk to you about, Robbie, because not only were you
part of of the guitars for Hansen, but you're also the first America can

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warn member of the family that createdand governed the world's largest democracy for over
forty years. You're the nephew ofof of India's only female prime minister,
yep and Dera Gandhi exactly, andI grew up in a very politically charged
family that was amazing to be partof those kind of geopolitical discussions and have

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that sort of thing. I canonly imagine. So when did you become
okay, the rock hot wait man, how does someone from your background wind
up in hands? I'm like puzzledhere, how do you wind up?
How do you wind up in Hanson? And then did you become a pilot?

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And then the entrepreneur, so tellus the sequence sequence of the of
events. Yeah, so I grewup basically, you know, right in
this in this family that had apolitical legacy and fought aling Mahat and Gandhi
of course, and then of coursewho was the youngest prime minister as well?

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That was well, so that wasmy cousin, Rajiv Gandhi. So
my great uncle jabrajo El Neru wasthe first prime minister, and he and
Gandhi, you know, fought againstthe British in order to I'm sorry,
an independent nation. Robbie, wehave got to take a quick break,
so when we come back, wehave so much to talk to you about.
Your new book is out. It'scalled Pivot, Empowering students today to

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succeed in an unpredictable tomorrow. Giveus the website. My website is is
RAVI Unites dot com r A vI n U I T e s dot
com. It's all about bringing peopletogether in uniting them so and all my
social media handles are also rav uniteswonderful And we will take a quick break

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and be right back for we haveso much to talk about. On Frankie
Boyer joining us today, someone whoI don't the background. Your background is
so extraordinary and that's what makes youso unique to share your vision for young

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people. And Robbie at Teasing iswith us, author of Pivot empowering students
today to succeed in an unpredictable tomorrowas a global education and corporate speaker and
a cultural diplomat for the US StateDepartment. Nice to have you back with

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us, But I have to goback to your background, your family and
you have had this amazing life becausethe first American born member of the family
that created and governed the world's largestdemocracy and India in Daria Gandhi, and

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she was India's only female Prime ministerand the cousin of the youngest prime minister.
What tell us what came first inyour desire to be a rock star
pilot and an entrepreneur. Give usthe sequence of events, and then we

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need to talk more about the family, because that's just so extraordinary, all
right. So we were an immigrantfamily because my dad decided not to go
into politics in India, so hedecided to come to the United States and
go into business. And he wasactually one of the first Indians to ever
work on Wall Street. So Igrew up in the suburbs of New York
City. I had two older brothers, seven and nine years older than me

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that followed in my dad's footsteps.So here I was coming from a family
of a political legacy, but workingin finance. I basically just rejected at
all. I didn't I didn't wantto have anything to do with that.
I was a younger kid. Iwas the rebel black sheep of my family,
and at the age of eleven,I basically decided that I wanted to
be anguts young of ACDC. Thatwas what spoke to me. And I

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was lucky that my mother. Myparents were going through a pretty ugly divorce
at the time, and I wasjust alone with them and she said,
Hey, I'm glad my youngest sonhere is into something. So she brought
me an electric guitar, and Ihad just found my passion at that point,
and that's what I pursued. Anddidn't you know anyone that played the
guitar? Did you know of anyother family members or I mean, did

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just pick up the guitar and taketo it as such? I mean,
it's amazing. Yeah, I justtook to it. You know, my
brothers were into music, and myeldest brother classical piano, so music was
always part of our life growing up. But for some reason, the electric
guitars what spoke tomantic. I hada friend in school that maybe got one,

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and I thought it was really cool, and so I just wanted to
travel down that road. And Iwas so lucky because you know that my
educational journey, which is what Italked about with my audiences, was complicated
because I didn't relate to school.I wanted to be a rock and roll,
a rock star. I didn't wantto go to classes in school and

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all that. But at least Ihad two wonderful music teachers in high school
that gave me a reason to getup every day and come to school.
Because it's only so much later inlife that I realized how valuable my education
has been for the journey you knowthat I've taken. But but for me,
it was all about music. AndI had my own recording studio and

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I was teaching guitar before I graduatedhigh school. And when I went to
college, I just didn't relate tocollege either, and I wanted to drop
out. And one of the storiesI love to tell is what my dad
said to me. Right this investmentbanker, highly educated, comes from a
highly educated family, and his youngestson wants to drop out of school.

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And he said to me, said, Okay, there's one thing I want
you to do for me before youleave school. I want you to write
me a business plan. No onehad ever asked me to articulate my vision
for my future before like he did. And it was probably the greatest lesson
that I've ever had. And Ithink it was that lesson that's allowed me
to do many of the things thathave done since then, because you had

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to create a plan, you know, and you had to formulate and articulate
my vision. Tell us how yougot into the rock band, I mean
not just getting into a rock band, but you got into a famous a
group that became so famous and Grammynominated how and tour it all over the
place. How did that happen?Yeah, well sort of. The short

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version of the story really is thatI had a studio client while I was
in high school and running the studioout of my mother's basement, and he
got a great job at Mercury Records, and somebody asked them one day for
a recommendation of a young guitar playerfor a band that they were trying to
launch, and I was the firstone that came to mind, and he
gave them my phone number, andbasically, you know, after a few

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conversations, they hired me to helplaunch this band. It was just for
one show, one appearance, andthe band took off so fast that the
Hanson family and they're now the HansonCompany, hired me as their guitar player.
And I was on the road withIsaac Taylor and Zach Hanson, you

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know, living the dream for therest of that year, playing everything from
David Letterman to Jay Lanos, Saturdayand I Love One House, Today Show,
Good Morning America. I mean,the list goes on. It was
unbelievably fortunate that I happened to landin a band that that just a few
months later, outsold every other bandon the planet that year, So why

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would you leave that? Well,so what happened was the Internet popped up
and the music industry didn't know howto handle the Internet. Napster then came
out and people were starting to sharefiles and all of our contracts were put
on hold while the music industry wasgoing to try to figure out how to
contain this threat to their bottom line. And it's an interesting when we look

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at artificial intelligence today and we lookat the education industry that's trying to figure
out how to deal with chat GPT, we can look back at the music
industry and say, wow, therewas an industry that didn't embrace technology,
and as a result, tons ofpeople lost their jobs and lots of record
companies closed. Instead, they couldhave tried to embrace the technology, seen

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it as a marketing resource, andused it as a tool the way we
have to be using artificial intelligence today. So it wasn't so much that I
left it. It left me unfortunately, and I had to pivot, you
know, like like what I talkabout in my book is that all important
skill of pivoting, which is whenI ultimately got into flying airplanes. And

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while that was really a hobby,private pilot, you make it sound like
you could just fly an airplane takesa tremendous amount of schooling and education.
Tell us, yes, that room, yeah exactly. So well, that's
another interesting experience where I met anairline pilot and we were just talking and
I said to him, I said, you know, I've always wanted to

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learn to fly airplanes. And hesaid to me, said, you know,
I've always wanted to learn to playthe guitar. So we bartered airplane
flying lessons for guitar lessons, andI spent the next you know year learning
to fly with him and getting mygetting my license, and I just loved
it. As I mentioned earlier,you know, I thought that the cockpit

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of an airplane was the greatest classroomI'd ever been in. So I started
visiting middle schools and high schools andtelling kids how cool it is to listen
to your teachers and then apply youreducation so that you can go out and
live your dreams. And so Imade we have to take another break in
the industry. Can you stay withus? We're gonna do this is there's

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too much to talk about. Wehave so much to talk about. We're
going to keep you for the hostshow because I'm just I think people need
to hear the gut, the determinationand how creation can happen with what you
want and then go out and getit, get your dream. We'll be
back in just a moment. Giveus the Robbie, give us the best

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website, Rabbi units dot com.That's r v I U n I t
ees dot com. I'm Frankie Boyerwill be right back. Stu too,

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and welcome back. He is herefor the full hour because there's just I
have to tell you. We justhave too much to talk about in just
a couple of segments, because you'refascinating. Life is so amazing. Robbie
ut Teasing is with us, authorof Pivot, empowering students today to succeed

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in an unpredictable tomorrow. Okay,starting out as the group Hanson, you
meet a pilot, you barter.What how long did you become a pilot
for? Well, So this wasin two thousand and eight, after the

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global financial crisis. You know,it was just like I had to find
something. I had to pivot andfind something else to do because my music
industry, I had a career.I wasn't able to revive it. Between
two thousand and two thousand and eight. I was just sort of plugging along,
but it wasn't growing anymore. AndI really always wanted to learn to
fly an airplane. So I spentabout a year learning to fly, and

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I was able to get my,you know, my first license at that
point, and was able to goout and see the world from above,
which is a vantage point that I'vealways loved. And as I mentioned,
you know, for me, Ijust loved everything I learned when I was
in the cockpit of an airplane.Is I like to say, somebody taught
me trigonometry in high school, butI learned it in the cockpit of an

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airplane, and I didn't know itwas trigonometry experiential learning. And so I
started speaking to high school students andmedical middle school students about how great it
is to apply your education in anexperiential way. And all of a sudden,
I was an aviation speaker. AndI found myself hanging out with people
like Buzz Aldrin and the Tuskegee Airmenand you know, these astronauts and Blue

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Angels, and I mean, Iwas in an arena that I never imagined
I would be in, you know, I haven't come out of the rock
and roll industry, and now,you know, flying high with some of
these just amazing, amazing people,and it was wonderful. You know,
I just really enjoyed that until thenext pivot I had to make, which

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was in twenty fifteen. I gotan inner ear infection and I could no
longer be a pilot and I lostmy gosh, and so I had to
pivot again, and I managed toget myself invited to speak at a conference
in Moscow and Russia. I wantedto go really international and go to places
that I'd never been and see partsof the world that I'd never seen,

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and that evolved to me meeting theambassador, and the ambassador introducing me to
the Indian ambassador, and to gettingto know people at the State Department,
which, you know, to keepkeep a long story short, ultimately resulted
in me becoming a cultural diplomat forthe US Department of State and being able
to do lecture tours in Russia andin Indonesia, Iraq, Lebanon, all

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about two different things, the artsand also entrepreneurship, two things that the
United States really excels where the USexcels. So this was part of something
I could do as a cultural diplomat, is really showcase what the United States
has to offer the world. Andit was a very proud opportunity for me.

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And again that's another thing I neverthought i'd be doing, given that
I just wanted to be angus herein the BCDC when I was eleven years
old. Wow, unbelievable. Nowall of this makes sense. It makes
sense the title of your book pivot, because you know that what life Isn't

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that what life so has become,Robbie, And you're trying to get younger
people to know that it's okay topivot. And how many athletes have had
to leave their sport and have recreatednew lives for themselves. How many people

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in everyday life there aren't that manyrole models out there to say to us,
wait a minute, just because itdidn't work out the way you thought
or wanted or however, doesn't meanit's not going to work out. And
pivoting is so critical? Isn't itso critical? You know it really is.

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And you know I wrote the bookduring the pandemic where we all had
to pivot. And it just seemedthat obviously this was something the whole education
industry was pivoting. Everybody was goinginto online learning. People that used to
go to offices were pivoting, theywere working room totely. Everything was just
changing so fast, and I realizedthat this is this is a skill that

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I guess I have, but moreimportant than that, it's a skill we
need to be teaching. It's askill that we need to be encouraging.
We have to be able to encourageour students to take risks. We have
to encourage them to fail so thatwe can teach them how to get back
up. There were a lot ofthings that I started thinking about in my
own education and in our education industrythat needs to change, that needs to

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pivot in order to make sure thatwe do prepare our students for an unpredictable
future. It's it's really essential,and you know those I sort of I
break it down in the book intofour things. We need to inspire curiosity,
we need to nurture talent, weneed to provoke critical thinking, and
we need to foster communication. Andthose are really things that have guided you.

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How do you save them again?Because they're they're all important, say
it again. Inspire curiosity, nurturetalent, provoke critical thinking, and foster
communication. Yes, because you canhave all the challenge in the world,
but it doesn't necessarily mean you'll goanywhere. You know. That's one of

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the things that I often tell peopleis there were so many more talented people
than I who could have done youknow, playto himbop and handsome. I
mean, it's it's the fact isthat there's so many talented people that don't
have the other skills to leverage theircareers in the way that they need to.
So it takes all of that,and it takes It's really to me,

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those are the four pillars of lifelonglearning. That's what I call them,
and I think that if we empowerour students with those, then they'll
be fine in an unpredictable future.It goes back to what I said at
the beginning of our conversation Frankie,is that sixty five percent of today's students
are going to work in jobs thatwe don't even know about yet. So
if we give them those tools,then they're going to be fine. They're

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going to be able to create theopportunities that they need and convert and capitalize
on the opportunities presentatism. You know, Robbie, those tools are so critical.
And what concerns me, What concernsme and I and I chuckle because
I'm wondering, where where do weget people to start becoming independent in their

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thinking and how do we even promotethat among kids? What I'm seeing are
a bunch of sheep. It's likeeverybody follows everybody else. And we've had
this this these fifteen year olds inBoston and downtown Boston, gangs of fifteen
year olds that are coming from thesuburbs, and I don't know if it's

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through social media, but they're gatheringand they're and being destructive at the same
time on the expense of other people. They crowded a movie theater and trick
it over, and they harassed policeofficer in downtown Crossing. They came into

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the festival, the North Ends SacredWonderful Saint Anthony Festival. They just seemed
to be everywhere, freewhere. Theyare part of the sheep mentality, and
that just I just am saddened byit, so saddened by it. You

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know, you're you're touching on somethingthat's that's something I talked to my educational
audiences about, you know, whenI was telling you about my cultural diplomacy,
and I had all this opportunity todo this work and meet all these
different diplomats, including Jill Biden andColin Powell, and get to learn from
these people and talk to them.One of the things that happened around that
time was on November thirteen, twentyfifteen, the terrorists attacks in Paris,

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where young radicalized terrorists. Basically,we're going out and killing innocent people in
cafes and in nightclubs and everything atrandom. And the next day I woke
up and I asked myself and thenasked all of these new ambassadors and everybody
that I knew, what are wedoing to help youth rise above this violence
and this radicalism, what's causing it, and what are we doing to combat

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it? And you know that ledsome of my significant work with the State
Department, where I created a sonwritingcamp we launched in Indonesia, and it's
the idea was, why don't wehave why don't we put people from traditionally
opposed cultures and religions and put themin a room together and have them write
music and see what happens. Soone of the things that I think our

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education system needs to do, andthis is what I sort of proved to
myself and to others through this project, Well, we need to make sure
that we continue to have the artsin education and things that generate more empathy
so that we don't get this sortof destructive youth mentality that is often promoted

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by social media and by other influencesthat encourage this kind of activity that you're
referring to. That just, yeah, seems so what we need. I
have a new idea for you whenwe come back from break, we'll talk
about that. Robbie give us thebest website ravunites dot com. That's riv

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i U n I t ees dotcom. His new book is out Its
Call, which is what he does. He pivots all the time, pivot
empowering students today to succeed in anunpredictable future. And Robbie Hutti Sing will
be with this our last segment injust a moment seeing is can you only

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imagine what the memoir is going tolook like at the end of one's life,
At the end of Robbie Huttinson's lifebecause it is such an extraordinary life
that he's had. And Robbie,welcome back. Pivot. Empowering students today
to succeed in an unpredictable tomorrow isyour new book. You're a global education

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and corporate speaker. You've served asa cultural diplomat for the US State Department.
You've been a member of the rockband Yes, I know it.
He was the guitarist for Hansen.They traveled and toured all over You became
a pilot. We heard your pilotstory in an air infection. And now

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you are helping young kids and entrepreneursall over this world. And I my
question to you is what about thenext phase taking young people and doing musical
workshops around the country for them.Yeah, I mean, you know,

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there's so many things that we cando with the arts that help sort of
realign our young people with humanity.You know, we got into this conversation
and so much of what I talkabout now with my education audiences is the
influence of AI and chat, GPTand what is technology doing to the future
of jobs. But at the endof the day, we're all people and

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we have to get back to whatto the human spirit and make sure that
we never lose the human spirit.And that's one of the things that I
just love about music and the arts, and your idea of creating these workshops
really help will help us keep ouryoung people and all people together and you
know, around the human spirit becauseultimately, like we were talking about what

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happens when when AI starts to createAI and robots take over. Well,
you know, nothing is going toreplace the human spirit as long as we
keep developing it. And so that'swhere I think the arts and music and
sports and all of those things reallyhelp. And that's why our education system
has to keep those types of opportunitiesavailable to our students so that they remain,

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you know, in touch with thataspect of life. I want to
ask you, is there any plansfor you to get back into music or
is that just the early chapter.No, I think, you know,
one of the things that I seein my life all is is kind of

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a full circle approach. You know. It's it's kind of funny, right
because I grew up with a familywith a political legacy. Never did I
think I would end up work onbehalf of the United States for the State
Department as a cultural diplomat, butthat was one sort of complete circle.
Music has always remained part of mylife even that my work as a cultural

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diplomat is creating the songwriting workshops thatbring people together from traditionally post cultures and
religions through music. So music's constantthreat. It's never left me and never
will. Whether it becomes, youknow, at the forefront of what I
do again is yet to be seen. But I'm starting to get that hitch.
To be honest, I'm starting toplay my guitar a lot more again

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and writing songs again. So maybe, yeah, I just feeling. My
feeling is that it's not done yet. It's not done yet. When when
you are sitting back and relaxing andtaking time to reflect between the police,

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political and for those of you thatthat are just joining us, your political
your family tree, oh my gosh, talk about Gandhi talk about your family
tree. A lot of pressure,you know, but a lot of exposure
to to what it means to fightfor freedom, what it means to be

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a leader. As I tell myaudiences, true leadership is empowering those below
you to rise above you. Soit requires a lot of humility and That's
something that I've learned from my familylegacy, is that if we're really going
to change the world, if we'rereally going to make it a better place,
it's not about lifting ourselves. It'sabout lifting others and giving them and

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empowering them, just like when Italk about in my book regarding students,
empowering them to really succeed. Sothat's that's the gift that I've gotten from
my family legacy. The pressure,though, must be so intense. And
by the way, did your dadlove the fact that you had such tremendous

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success in Hanson. Yeah, hedid. You know. I always used
to joke that even before Hanson,when I was playing the dive bars in
New York City, that the threeguys in the suits in the back where
my dad and my two brothers.You know, they were very supportive always,
and they were loving it when Iwas with Hanson, and they would
come to the shows and they wouldbe in the TV audiences, and you

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know, they they really did supportme a lot, and you know,
I think respected the fact that Idecided to venture on my own path and
try to find my own way,and they were all very proud of me
for for succeeding. Yeah, Ibet, I bet. I have to

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say that that the way in whichyou have pivoted is inspirational so many and
and that's that's the story, thatis so that's that's the piece that we
need to hear. The hope,the fact that if it doesn't work out,

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turn around, look below, lookabove, look beside, and you
have so many connections that you havemade, and that people don't realize that
these connections that you think are youknow, the power of networking, the
power of connection in your life hasbeen extremely powerful, extremely powerful. One

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of the things that I also sayin my keynotes is the worst thing we
tell children is don't talk to strangers. How can you imagine if I had
never talked to strangers, I wouldn'thave been able to have created any of
these opportunities. We need to teachkids how to talk to strangers. And
you know, that's where you canconvert opportunities and ignize them and then convert

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them into realities. That's the skill. And then you know, Pivot is
my life story. It is whatI talk about in the book, and
it is my hope that it notonly inspires people, but that it actually
gives them a blueprint on how theycan create these scenarios and these opportunities for
themselves in their own way, sothat they can achieve happiness, so that

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they can achieve success not just forthemselves, but for those around them,
and you for the greater good too, because we all absolutely serve in that
sense. So Robbie, this hasbeen so enjoyable. Thank you, Thank
you for all that you bring tous and the new book. Congratulations,
come back sooner than later. Iknow it's been a while. We'd love

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to continue the conversation because your insightsand information is just so critical and very
important. Thanks for being with usand give us the best website. Thank
you, frank I really appreciate itto everybody. Can come and visit me
at RAVI units dot com, rA v I U n I T e

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s dot com. Thank you somuch, and thank all of you.
This has been another edition of theFrankie Boyer Show. Thanks for listening.
Make it a great day everybody,and as always, smile, handsome