Episode 171 with Dan-e-o

Well just a few weeks ago, we had former member of this show Dan-e-o on as a guest because he had just released a killer new single.  Well..... last week Dan-e-o released ANOTHER banger, so we said let's bring him back!

Dan's new track is called "Like We" and features Juno winning reggae artist Blessed.  This song is absolute fire.  Dan joins Donnie and Tid to talk about the process of putting this track together, and the thought that went into the lyrics.

Of course the boys decided to discuss some big stories that broke this week including the death of OJ Simpson, the end of Curb your Enthusiasm, Larry David's phone call with The Rock, JK Rowling and more!

To pre-order Dan-e-o's new album "Vigilante" (dropping on May 10th) go to Dan-e-o.com

Also... check out the video for Like We on YouTube, and if you're a dude with a beard (or a dude who wants a beard) go to BaronialBeard.com

Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-godfathers-of-podcasting--4303576/support.

Episode Transcript

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It is April eleventh. And likethe man said, my name is
Donnie, and that man next tome, he is the Hall to my
Oats, the Ernie to my Bert, the Blake to my Gwen. Although
I hear they may be on therocks. That's notorious tid. Chris did
well, what up? Did Didyou say I was the Ernie to your
Bert? Yeah? No, no, I would say I was more of

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the monster to your Cookie. Idon't want to be eaten by you.
Oh, yes, you do,brother, Although I think Ernie and Bert
were eating each other quite a bit, if you know. Well, I
mean allegedly, not that there's anythingwrong with that, but I mean they

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never had any girls. Yeah.It was the first televised homosexual relationship that
I was aware of. And Iwasn't even aware of it. I mean,
did it matter when you were akid. No, it wasn't until
you're like turning and Bert. Itwasn't until you became an adult and you
were like, oh huh, Iguess that's a thing. When I got
older and I was like, youknow, Bert's kind of hot. Really.

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I mean, anything can be usedif you're adventurous, anything is insertable.
This week's episode is brought to youby Vigilani. The new album from
your bro Danny O is dropping onMay tenth. You can get the fire

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Orange vinyl. You can get theCD or the digital download. They're all
available on dannio dot com. That'sDan hyphen E Hypheno dot com. The
new theme you heard off the topof the show is a track on the
album, which we will be talkingabout shortly, So make sure you go
ahead and get your ass over todannyo dot com and pre order Vigilani now

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tid before we got to our guest, anything fun and exciting from this past
week. You know what I'd liketo do first is I would love to
shout out Baronial And I only saythat. I only say that because I
am just about out of soap rightnow. That stuff is audit now,

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Yeah, just about brother. Uh. It is fantastic stuff. It smells
absolutely great, it works wonderfully.And here's the thing. Here's the thing
that I'm gonna tell you and everybody. This isn't a spiel because I don't
give a shit about the soap.It lasts longer than you would expect from
like a a one of these youknow, artisanal small company soaps. You

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don't expect it, but this lasts, man, and I have a lot
of body to be bathing up,you know what I'm saying. So shout
out to those dudes for and ladiesfor getting it right. Absolutely, And
you still have to get a barof their fine soap or any of their
ibulous beard products. You can goto Barronealbeard dot com. We'll have the

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links up on Godfather's a podcasting dotcom, as well as your link to
go and pre order Vigilante at DanipheneHypheno dot com. Before we get to
the guest, did you enjoy overall? Did you? Because we spent the
whole episode last week talking about it, so in a nutshell, did you
enjoy WrestleMania Weekend? Yes? Yes, I did. It's been a long

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time since I've actually gone through theprocess, you know, of watching,
uh an entire weekend. Oh mygod, it is yeh, bro it
is tough to do, but Idid it. And uh, I mean
it's it's an exciting time of year. You get to watch WrestleMania, You
get to watch night one, Nighttwo, biggest show on Earth. You
know, that is kind of thethe the catalyst for what time of year

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it is, and to some people, an even bigger event that happens right
around the same time of year.I'm talking about Opening Day for Major League
Baseball. Oh well, I knowa guy that's jacked up about Opening Day
of Baseball. We'll talk to himin a second. Before we do,
I just want to plug if youdo want to hear more WrestleMania recap in

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WrestleMania Conversation, tit and I,along with Brady Wedham got into it on
The Law. You can check thatout this week. Also, I will
be on with Boris this Sunday onTSN Radio on Sunday Night's Main Event talking
about WrestleMania, talking about what happenedlast night on ae W with their big
expose, and all sorts of otherstuff. So check out Sunday Night's Made

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Event, check out The Law,all kinds of fun content for you wrestle
heads out there. And if you'renot into that shit, that's okay because
we got other stuff for you thisweek. Cool. All right, ladies
and gentlemen, it is time nowfor the big Hello. And you know,
are we gonna bring him in?Yeah? I'm instantly interested in every

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inkling of his existence. No I'mnot. That is the opening line to
this unfeavably hot new track titled LikeWe. That video dropped just last week
and the response has been insane,so insane that we thought, even though
he was on the show a fewweeks ago, we just had to have
him back on and talk about itagain. This dude is just burning shit

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up. If you have ever listenedto the show before, you don't know
who the man his bredren. He'san actor, writer, lyricist, educator,
producer, musician, but of coursehis favorite title is dad. Hey
yo yo. He rocks the sickeas flows, he reps the Illness Crew.
Sometimes he gets vexed about the shitthat I didn't do because now he's

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checking for my friend. It seemsyou want to bubble too, yo.
Dark Honey's Indians, light skinned Filipinos, Latina's, even some white things.
He's chuckling. But you know whatI remember back in the day me he
was bros, steady, rocking flows, shared a dream of fully making it
into the pros, thinking of thefame. Try to run this game now.

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The fact you think I'm act andwack has made you feel a shame.
But if he's too ashamed or hasa problem with any part of this
intro, may I gotta treat himlike this record and give him a nice
beat right now for the Spanish Jamaicansensation. He is deadly. He is
the bullfighter, he is the vigilante. This is your bro, Danny O.
What's up? Reggie's well done?Man? You know I gotta say,

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man, I appreciate that intro atfirst, when you started ripping the
rhymes. I'm like, oh,Donnie wrote some new shit. I'm like,
oh no, he's spitting my shit. He just has no flow.
Yeah, no, he's he's DannyO with less. Yeah, he's Danny,
He's Donnie. No is what heis. He's like, it's like
the Carlos mean rap. I justripped off your lines and now you ripped

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off mine. Yes, that's absolutelyright that Oh that's exactly how it goes.
Bruh. But thank you for that. Yeah, I know that's probably
like you might be the only oneon the planet who knows that song or
would remember that song. It's Over. It's over twenty years ago and was
just on a mixtape. And yeah, that's still your favorite joint, bro,
You've had a lot of years.Was new Daniel joints. Okay,

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It's Over was my favorite Danio songuntil last week. Okay, all right,
that works for me. So Iwill say, and this is no
hyperbole, being one hundred percent honest, So Dan sent me the full album
of Vigilanti. I don't know howlong ago, admit it, right,
it's been a while. Well youboth got both you guys got to hear

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it. By the time I wason the Shoe last time, so we
listened to the whole album. ButI will admit when I was listening to
it, I was in one ofthose headspaces where I'm multitasking and I'm not
really zoned in on the lyrics andI'm not really like focused. I listened
to the to the single that youreleased the last time You're on the show,
and listened to that in great detail, but the rest of the album

(09:03):
I didn't really drill down into it, you know what I mean. You
made a little Ignora's but I waslike, you know, the album's good,
but I'm not I'm not clicking onit yet. And then you sent
me the link to go check outthe new music video, and I went
and checked out the video, andI realized, first of all, I
think I have ADHD because the videowas easier to watch than listening to the

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music. That's changing that's for alot. I really, yeah, I
really, really really like this track. Like I hollered it, Dan,
I didn't text him. I didthe old man thing. I picked up
the phone and I called him andI said, this is the best thing
you've ever released. Thanks man,ever, I appreciate you know, and

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and it's true what you're saying,because even for me, as the artist
who's created all this music, ittakes on a new life when you do
visuals for it and then you dropit as a video. And I have
never written a song. I thinkI might have talked to you guys about
this last time. I've never writtena song with the mind set that this
will be the single. Right.I create songs that are specifically meant to
be, you know, important partsof the album, and you put all

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the songs together to create this project. It's not until it's finished that we
start plucking songs off and going,okay, you know, what do we
turn into a single? What dowe use as a video? And when
we shot like we and obviously releasedit as a single, even for me,
it took on a whole new life. Like now I'm seeing the visuals
and like all my visions you know, comeing to reality. And then,
of course, like you mentioned earlier, all the feedback I'm getting from it.

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People are telling me like this isI made a half joke online the
other day is like I think Ifinally superseded dear hip hop, Like people
like, yo, this is yourbest shit, and You're not the only
one to say that. And I'mkind of feeling that too, with renewed
confidence after the video came out.So thanks for that call and thanks for
the plug. It's this is goingin the direction I was hoping it would
go. I'll lets it jump in, but before it does, I just

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want to say I also sent thatvideo link out to a whole bunch of
people I know, and I hadthe exact same experience where and I told
you this already, where people werethen picking up the phone, not texting,
picking up the phone and calling meand going that song is unbelievable,
And I'm like, Yil thinks Iwrote it right. Yeah, of course
that sounds like the conversation went exactlythat way. I pretty good. I

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think what it is. I thinkwhat it for me anyways, is it
starts off like it hits and it'sfun. It's got this super fun like
kind of almost like a like abig pun Twins kind of thing at the
beginning, you know what I mean. Then in the middle of little lialy
like it's got that kind of hole, that that tone to it or whatever,

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and then it just boom stop atfuck you here, we go right.
It was. It's very super donein the video itself. Dude,
talk to me about the process ofdoing that, because clearly you've never like
this is something new. As I'mwatching this, I'm like, Oh,
he's having a fucking blast doing this. How how cool was that? Super
cool? Brother? Two things Iwanted to rest based on your question.

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Man, Thank you actually for pointingout how the song begins, because when
I was in the studio with TJall of our brother TJ, you know
who engineers all my music, Irecorded several takes of the beginning and for
those who haven't heard it yet,I'm instantly interested in every inkling of your
existence. No I'm not. Therewas on purpose alliteration by using several eye
words in a row, So that'slike the lyrical point of it, But

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the delivery is what you're commenting on. There did, and that was purposely
being sarcastic, because the song iscalling shots on those who use social media
to present themselves other than what's true. And I did a few takes,
some not so sarcastic, and Iwas like, Ah, maybe it's a
little corny, maybe it's too youknow, I don't know Eminem even and
people have been comparing it to Eminem. I appreciate you comparing it to Big

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Pun because while Eminem is a hugecompliment, Big Pun is a huge compliment.
Those are two of the greatest MC'sto ever live. That's what I
was trying to get across, asI am making fun off the top and
now it's time to get serious andgo in battle record style. The video
that you brought up, of course, brings a whole new life to it,
and it was a great process becauseI want to shout out my man

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Flea Normality aka Connor Dooley, whoI met on my hip Hop Food Drive
tour of twenty twenty two. Heis a videographer and photographer and only just
about a month and change ago.You know, we've been boys for the
past year and changed since the tour. And I saw that he shot a
video for Hawaiah Mighty and oh man, his name escapes me. I believe
it's Connor PRIs who just got nominatedfor a JUNO. I'm like, bro,

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I can't believe I didn't holler atyou for a video before, and
He's like, dude, let's doit up. So the process was fun.
It was easy. He loved thetrack. We both threw ideas back
and forth, including actually on set, I was like, Bro, you
know what we need to do.Let me hold up my phone and take
a selfie. Shoot us taking theselfies because that's sort of the gimmick of
the point of the song. Andit was a lot of fun. It

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was a cold day, though,bro goose the day doesn't it look like
it in the video, But otherthan it being cold, it was a
lot of fun. And what I'mreally really honored by is that the people
that we shout out in the video, those who said they could make it
did make it. So shouts tothe legend DJ Ron Nelson, my brother
Lindo p who got me started inthis business, and more Juno Award winners,

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Ghetto Concept all came through to bein the video, and those who
couldn't come through sent me videos likeSocrates and Mischie Me and so man.
Just being amongst legends is still athrill to me, and I'm glad we
got to do that as part ofthe video too. Lots of people you
shut out in this track, dreamWarriors and Maestro and shouts the Blessed did

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all that my feature artists two timesJuno Award winning artists, Blessed. Really
he took the track to a wholenew level. Not only did he write
the hook, but when I senthim the verses, I remember him saying
this is a hit before he wroteanything. Him writing the hook really took
it to the next level, andthen him adding the verse where he does
show out legends. I love theyin and yang of the song. Someone

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mentioned that online, my boy PaulSalvatore, thank you for that. He's
like, there's a yin and yangto this because Daniel's filing grievances and calling
shots. But then Blessed uplifts anddolls out flowers. So it's the yin
and yang of if you front andon social media you draw my ire Now
here's all the people who never evenneeded social media to become legends. And

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so I love that we do bothof that in the song and the video.
I just needed Rahap City. Sogoing back to Blessed for a second,
like you said, two time,you know recipient, and we're talking
about a guy who huge, youknow to reggae lovers everywhere. Absolutely talk
to me about the process of justgetting Blessed involved in this project. Well

(15:54):
the crazy thing is that and youknow this because you helped design the cover
Sino Evil. Hear No Evil ismy second album twenty years ago. Blessed's
on it, so we haven't workedtogether in twenty years, and there's no
reason for that other than life andthe way things go and you create music
and time flies. So the processwas kind of easy because I reached out
to him. He's just one ofthose regeends who maybe he didn't speak to

(16:15):
in a long time, but it'sall love. Still sent him the track
and as I mentioned, he jumpedall over it because he loved it before
he even wrote anything. And I'mthankful because when I was writing it,
you know, it's just this boombatbeat. Shouts to Charisma aka Skids from
Monolith for producing it. I justyou know, I went in on the
lyrics and just something told me Ineed reggae, I need Bud Moine energy

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on this song, and so hejust laced it perfectly. Man. It
really took no time. Actually,like the song itself, my process took
some time, but hitting up Blessedand getting him to send me vocals that
was the easy part and unlike alot of other collabos, I didn't really
have to go back and forth.As soon as he sent me the hook,
I'm like, oh my god,damn, it was catchy. You

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mentioned all the social media platforms,like that's what I was looking for.
And then it was after that hesurprised me with his verse and I was
like, oh, okay, nowthis song is complete now. So the
process was amazing and it was itwas like that for the video too.
Shouts to Christy Skinner because I gotto meet Blessed's wife is part of the
process, and she's so cool andsupportive and just showed so much love to

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not just the process of it,but like promoting it, and it's good
to be around like a family atmosphere. That's what it felt like on set
and finishing this song. So fromthe time that this song was being conceived,
you said you just envisioned a reggaestyle hook. Yeah, Was it
always going to be a reggae hookin your mind? Did you have any

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other iterations of a hook? Anddid you have anyone else in mind that
maybe your cousin Red Rat or someoneelse. I wasn't so throughout the process
of creating the Vigilante album. Iwas in talks with Red Rat chip Fuu
shouts to Chip Foo, who,by the way, was on boss Man,
the former theme of this show,Linda p himself, you know.

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And and sometimes when you work througha project, certain songs you just need
to find that right fit. Andit just so happened that it was blessed
because the guest artist has to lovethe track as much as you. Right.
Some sometimes it's like you might reachout to an artist and like,
for example, there are other songson the album where you'll hear there are
guest artists on the record who weresent to other beats. For example,

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Cleanse My Soul, which Master Acechose, that was sent to Quake Matthews.
It was sent to Wordsworth. Quakechose another song bars Mean is the
song that Quake Matthews is on.He was also sent so we're Sunday Socrates
chose that one, but he washe was given Barsmen. He didn't.
So it's to me, it's it'sas much about what my vision is as

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much as it is how the guestartist feels about being on the track,
because it's got to be like weboth have to really really feel it.
So sometimes it's like you're putting togetherpieces of a puzzle. You think you
have the piece and you don't.The piece is fit in the right places,
and blessed unlike we was the rightfit. I think that's got to
be the greatest part about doing acollaboration though, right It's like you think
that you've got the perfect spot forthis person and they're like, so you

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send them all of this stuff andyou're like, they're totally gonna hit me
up and we're gonna do this onetogether. And then they're like, no,
you know what, I'd really liketo do this other way. They're
like, wait, what, Yeah, you know what I mean. So
so what's the next step for it? Then? For the song the project,
well, thankfully, and I appreciatebeing on today's episode because I literally

(19:38):
just launched Tim Tid's Gonna love this. I just launched the album promo campaign
on the tenth of April, whichjust passed because the album drops of the
tenth of Me and man, Idon't know why I remained superstitious about it,
but that's the next step. It'swe're going hard on album promo.
So I love that this is myfirst podcast, which is only right.

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I will be on a ton overthe course of the next month. Also,
there is a listening party being scheduledso I have no information about it
yet, but we are planning fora listening party in the city of Toronto
before the album drop. I willbe in Autawa for the Cranium Festival between
May third and fourth, and anothersingle and video is on the way,

(20:21):
so I may as well also usethis as the platform to give you some
exclusive news. Another single featuring mymighty Monolith brother Nish drops April nineteenth.
It's called Supreme. You guys knowthe record and that single and video will
also drop before the album. Sothe train is rolling, man, and
looking forward to see what happens withit and how many how many songs are

(20:44):
on How many songs are on thisalbum? This is a twelve us.
Yeah, it meant to be ten. You won't be surprised, so did
ten and two bonus tracks? Iswhat you're telling? Yeah? Well,
yeah, I know, you know, you know, speaking on your point?
Did about like just the creative process? Man? Sometimes I go into
projects. I always go into projectswith an idea and the idea turns into

(21:04):
a thousand different things before it's itsfinal product. And as I was working
with Biggs Brocks, shout to himbecause he produces five joints on the album
Charisma and I want to shout outSky the Cook and Jack's from Japan.
Those are the three producers of thealbum. And sometimes you think, Okay,
I have what I think I setout to do, and then you
hear another beat and you have anotheridea. And everything that I wrote needed

(21:27):
to fit the theme. And asyou guys know from the last time we
spoke, Vigilante is all about killingthe negativity in the world or the shit
that was weighing on my mental health. And there were just things that I
still needed to get off my chestand I did. That turned into twelve
songs. I wanted to ask youabout something, but before I did,
I just I don't want to losethis thought, only because it's so stupid.

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But we have a mutual friend ofall of ours who a while back
told me this is only a maybea year or two ago. She said,
Oh, I got invited to alistening party. I'm like, oh,
that's cool, sounds really bad.I'm like, what do you mean?
And she's like, well, whatdo you do? You just go
there and everyone puts on headphones andlistens. That would be the best.

(22:10):
That would be the people show up. Just give them a set of earbuds,
personalized earbuds that they can take homeout of there listen at whatever you're
listening party. I am listening.Yes, I want to say this is
more of a comment than a question, and I'll let you react to it.

(22:30):
But you and I have had theseconversations offline, Dan, and I'm
I'm impressed by the amount of hustlethat you've been putting on Vigilanti. The
first two singles. We've talked abouthow in the past you would do the
thing where it was like, youknow, I'm going to share my Spotify
thing on Instagram, which is goingto post that same photo every time,
and it may or may not getgreat engagement because to people it's like,

(22:52):
oh, I saw that yesterday,right, And now you're doing a lot
of customized marketing. You're doing aton of promotion and it's it's getting some
traction. But here's the funny things. As digital savvy as you've become in
this new world, you are stillcommitted to production of physical media. You

(23:17):
are still committed to printing CDs andand pressing Vinyl, Orange Fire, Vinyl
mind you, and I wonder ifthere's a chart of you that says,
Look, I get it, we'rein the digital age of music, but
at my soul, at my core, I cannot put out an album that

(23:40):
does not have a physical version.I can't do it. I know it's
cheaper, I know it's probably smarter, I know it's more economical. I
know it's what the majority of theaudience wants, is just digital. But
I can't do it. Is thatwhere you're at? Obviously you know me,
and you know that's true. Imean, as you guys see behind
me, that's my You know Idon't have them platinum style, but I'll

(24:03):
put them on display anyway. Bruh. You know I grew up pa,
I grew up in love with vinyl. Man. You know, I've talked
about it. I've wrote songs aboutit. I'm literally sitting beside my turntable
and my record collection behind me,because right above toys was records, And
to this day I have such ajoy playing records. And I don't know
what it is about the experience,the placing of the needle on a vinyl

(24:26):
and watching it spin and reading theliner notes as it happens. That's something
we did in the eighties and ninetiesas kids growing up, and I haven't
let go of it. Why I'vedecided to still make it part of my
business practice is that there are peopleout there like me. Now, these
are limited edition, we didn't goheavy on pressing, but yeah, do
we already have pre orders? Yes, I continue. I even get people
hit me up personally, because thankfullyI have those type of loyal fans who

(24:48):
live in the city. I'm like, save a record for me. I'm
gonna come by and grab it,or we're gonna hook up and I'm gonna
grab it. Because they are alsocollectors. I mean, even as I
take a look at the backdrops there, you brothers are collectors. See stuff
behind you Donnie representing Star Wars andprofessional wrestling. I see football and luchador.
You know, memorabilia behind Tid,you see vinyl behind me. We

(25:08):
are all collectors and lovers of particularforms of art. And as you said
it, it is in my heartto go. I can't have this not
exist physically for the people out therelike me who wish to collect and add
to their pieces of their art collection. But I think, yeah, I'm
a collector. I think at thesame time, though, it's got to

(25:30):
be like the most hip hop thingto do, my bro. Yes,
you know what I'm saying, Like, if there's a part of it,
like if you're if you're into thathip hop culture and that light, like
it comes along with it because that'sthe roots of it is. Yes,
Vinyl, right, you almost youalmost have to. You're not like,
yo, here's here's my here's myflash drive. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(25:55):
one hundred percent. Brother as always, tid you nail it, man,
Like that's exactly hip not just becauseyou know that's what we came up
doing in terms of like ones andtwos, cutting and scratching on turntables,
but the the product that is arecord or cassettes. Shouts to rbnet by
the way, the label distributing myalbum, celebrating their twenty fifth anniversary this

(26:17):
year, they pressed cassettes for alot of their artists and they saw so
and I haven't done that, right, They're like, you want to do
cassettes. I'm like, I thinkI'm gonna let's hold off on the tapes
good for Yeah, we can't wecan't do some we can't do some real
the reels like YO. But partof my heart would love to just just

(26:37):
for myself to own a car likehey One. But to your point,
did yes, it is a hiphop thing to do, and that is
also the mindset. We talked aboutthis a little bit last time. That
was also the mindset I went intoworking on this record. Is I really
did go back to I guess thetrue essence of what got me into hip
hop, and that is boom backnext, snapping beats and lyrical content that

(27:00):
is strong, you know, justrhyme wise, but also message wise and
all of it. I remember lasttime we were here, you asked me,
is it a hip hop album?And we defined hip hop versus rap
music and how important it is tothe culture, the contributions to the culture,
that the messages of the music andalso the music itself adds to the
legacy. So to your point,having it physically exist adds to the legacy,

(27:26):
which is hip hop. Man,you gotta put it on wax.
It jokes about real to real.But I got to tell you, when
I hear those words, I geta real visceral reaction because it takes me
back to my days when I wasin school learning how to do this right.
And I was there right at thattime when humber College was switching over
from teaching kids how to use realto real and then how to use digital.

(27:49):
And my old radio broadcast teacher,Bob Holiday rip, I don't know.
I'm assuming he's dead, he shoutout, ojay wow. Oh yeah
he would. He was like this. He'd be like, well, they
tell us that we have to teachyou how to use this computer, but

(28:11):
that's crap. The way to editis on the reel to reel. It's
like, oh shit, okay,well I guess I better listen to this
man. And I would sit therefor hours with a razor blade and tape
and little crayons, and I'm like, I'm like this with the with the
headphones on and I'm just manually rewindblue blah blah. I'm like, okay,

(28:33):
just a hair eat, Okay,mark it with a crayon, snip,
take that ship back together, crazybro. That is it is such
a satisfying way of editing, likeobviously digital editing or non destructive editing as
they used to call it back inthe day. Is is so much faster,
but it's not nearly as satisfy Rand and so to that point,

(28:57):
I understand, I understand your connectionto physical media. At some point,
at some point, I'm going togo out and get myself a real to
real machine just to have it inmy home. And when I'm bored,
I'm gonna spool some ship up andstart razor blading. Wow, dude,
I never did that. I've spooledtape together. I've done some surgery on

(29:19):
some cassettes. You know, whenit get caught up in with the pencil.
Yeah, you gotta, you gottacarefully pull the tape out of the
deck, reel it back in.Sometimes you got to open the whole cassette,
reel it back. Man. Thisis some old school talks right now.
When some asshole borrows yours effects tapeand doesn't give it back in good
shape, and that's what happens exactly. Oh man. I'm blown away by

(29:47):
everything you've released so far off ofVigilanti, and I think that this album
is probably going to be your mostlucrative to date. I've already had the
vision, and I told you thisalready. I see it, Juno in
your future at least a nomination,you know, like this crack right now,

(30:08):
I smelled nomination for this track,like we between You and Blessed Man,
there's a gnom on the horizon.I definitely appreciate that given his track
record with Juno's maybe you're onto somethingthat'd be nice. Obviously. I've actually
had more than one person say that, and that's to me, that's icing
on the cake. I remember wetalked about that last time. I would

(30:30):
love for that to happen, noquestion about it. But you know,
the content of the record is soimportant to me and the amount of energy
and effort I put into it.It matters so much to me because this
is my best album without question,and you know, just want to address
something that you mentioned there, donLike, Yeah, I straight sucked at
social media marketing before hands down,didn't know what I was doing. I

(30:52):
didn't. I still think I havea lot to learn. But going through
the process of like discussions and meand figuring things out before this album was
ready to go encouraged me to likecreate unique content for every release, every
song, for the album itself.And yes, that's what my social media

(31:14):
feeds have been predominantly filled with nowbecause similar to this, like this is
content. Obviously it's a podcast,right, So clips of this and every
different piece of information that can beunique or interesting to my fan base has
to become part of the campaign.And yeah, I wasn't doing that before.
I was like, yo, it'sout, you know, and expecting
people to take interest because I wasn'treally in tune with how it all worked.

(31:37):
It took the field of dreams approach, uh kind of man, And
I'll be honest, I also tookthe ah, I'm not really down with
social media. I cannot tell youhow many people still in the game musicians,
not just musicians, but different peopleof different you know, talents in
the world of art and entertainment goaoh, don't business with social media or
ah whatever for that, and it'sjust their excuse for yeah, not really

(32:00):
like it, but dude, it'snot helping you. And I learned that
it's you know, I seem likewithin the music world, especially when we're
talking about independent artists, right,we're not talking about like the people that
have big conglomerates pushing their shit outthere for them. You're hustling for yourself
essentially right. But I feel likewhen we look at you know, a

(32:22):
small small sample size, a smallmicrocosm, but even just independent artists that
guess on this show, feel likehip hop is the one genre that's really
dragging their feet on that world whenit comes to social media marketing, interest
in doing shows like this and talkingabout your shit. We reach out to

(32:43):
someone from the you know, thesouk from a folk rock band. They're
like, they're pumping shit out onInstagram NonStop. They're putting shit out there.
They're making sure that you know everythingabout their day, and they're making
you feel like you're there friend,so that when they announced that there's a
concert, oh, I have togo see my friend, you know,

(33:06):
and they build this online community.I feel like hip hop is the one
genre that's still slow to get tothat stage. I don't know for sure,
but I think this could be it. There are people in my life
who I highly respect as incredible artistsand they're friends too, and they'll say
stuff like I don't even like performing, I don't like doing interviews. It's

(33:27):
just their steas bro And I think, you know, I got a bregn
Ian Spinet shouts to him who remindedme recently. He always calls me up
and we talk hip hop, andhe goes, do you remember that time
I was like, Dan, yougot to get your music streaming? And
I apparently said I don't remember itthat well, but I apparently said like,
ah, forget streaming, bro likebecause you know, like you and
the cutting of the tapes. Iwas like, it's gotta be vinyl or

(33:49):
if you don't own it, it'snot a real album. And I do
remember before having a Spotify account,stick in to those guns like no,
I gotta own this da da daman, Listen, I get it.
The times have changed. Not everybodyis hip to that. Yet some people
are just like, it's not evenyou know, to our conversation tit,
it's not hip hop to you know, put something out digitally alone. Of

(34:09):
course, there's a lot of peoplewho don't subscribe to that, So maybe
some people think it's not hip hopto be all self promoted or you know,
do shows all the time. Man. I can't speak for them,
but I'm guessing that could be it, because I do know people like that.
There's this group that I've been listeningto. I don't know if you're
familiar with them or not. Thegroup of guys out of Florida called the

(34:30):
Same Olds, and they've been aroundfor six seven years or whatever. They
got the very very hip hop field, but like with a little bit of
like Wu Tang thrown in there,that kind of old, dirty bastard kind
of craziness, you know what Imean. But they've really managed to find
a way not to intricate interject bothso to speak. They're very much They're

(34:52):
on TikTok, They've got all oftheir little clips, they're doing all of
their little thing and I think oneof the things was is that it allows
to people can see their stuff digitallyand then send away and get a physical
copy from their music. So Imean, listen, it sounds like you
hired somebody about thirty years younger thanyou. I can teach you these ways

(35:15):
of social media. Now, isthat what happened or what you're half right?
I wouldn't say they're thirty years youngerthan me. But actually, all
jokes aside, I'm working with ateam of people, some of them actually
older. I do have a publicist. Shouts to Sasha Stolts, shouts to
my brother Chris Jackson. There isa team of people who are working my

(35:37):
publicity again shouts to Erbet as well, like they are working my records as
well. So this is just ateam of people who they believe in the
record. And that's something that wasimportant to me. It's one thing to
just hire someone or say hey,can you do me a favor, but
if they Chris actually was kind ofsemi retired from the whole music game,
and he took a listen to Vigilante. He got it somewhere around the time

(35:59):
you guys did, and he's like, dude, you're going to bring me
out of retirement. I love thisalbum that much. That's what I really
feel is the strong point of thisalbum. Because I'm no expert still,
I'm not some social media expert byany stretch, but learning the ropes in
terms of okay, putting out contentand all that stuff. I'm doing it
because I believe in the album,not because I want to be some social

(36:21):
media maybe, and it's just likeI really want people to hear this album.
Chris, for example, was like, when's the album coming out?
Original release date was April fifth,Bros. Obviously it's not push the album
that he wanted it push to June. I was like, we had conversations,
we went back and forth. Wecreated at the time a three month
plan and it was February March April. February was cleansed my soul. March

(36:44):
was like we here, we arein April another single may will be the
album. So this three months wasa plan that I honestly, I didn't
come up with that on my own. It was thanks to him. A
publicist has given me information on whatwe should and shouldn't do, who I'm
going to hit up, what podcastto be on, etc. So I
had a team of people who firstand foremost believed in the project and made
me feel like, yeah, itwas worth putting all this work into it.

(37:07):
Can I can I just say?Can I just say? Am I
the only one that is going toreally see the irony of this when you
do win a juno? Considering thatthe basis of a lot of the stuff
that you're feeling now is we talkedabout it last time, was that being
overlooked and this is going to bethe one that is going to get you
looked, you know what I mean? Yeah, I would love that irony

(37:30):
to take place, especially because again, as you guys know, I'm from
the school of whatever for awards,you know, they don't really determine what
real hip hop is. But anyartist would be lying if they said they
wanted nothing to do with a nominationor a look like that from that type
of entity like the Juno's. Okay, the question then the question is which
one of your albums do you moveout of the shelf behind you to put

(37:52):
up your Juno? Oh? Greatquestion, there's enough space up there there.
We'll get another shill. Yeah,there it is. Uh. I
was I was about to say,on that team that you have that you
spoke of, who's the who's theleft fielder with the weak arm? Uh?

(38:17):
Just a left fielder with the weakarm? Maybe me, I'm still
learning the ropes. There you go, that's the politically correct answer. Good
job. I do think it's youknow, just to touch on tit's point.
I do think it's funny that youknow, here you are this guy
who has fought the social media revolution. You have this song that's probably the

(38:38):
best ship you've ever put out,which is literally all about social media,
and that could be the one thatgets you the trophy. Yeah, there's
there's all sorts of layers of ironyin there, but I think it's I
think it's really cool man and continuedsuccess with the track, continued success with
the album. As I mentioned offthe top, go to Daneo dot com

(39:01):
to pre order Vigilante. You cando it now. But we're not done
with you. I want to getyour take on a few different things that
are happening in the world this week. Dan Ted already mentioned it. He
sort of threw it in there rightin the middle, and maybe I'll start
with tit. What was your reactiontoday, mister Tidwell, when you heard

(39:23):
that Orenthal James Simpson had passed awayat the age of seventy six. My
initial response was, if they donot put him in the back of a
white Bronco and give him a leastescort to the cemetery, they are missing
out on the greatest moment ever.That was my initial Don't ask me what

(39:45):
my initial thought was, if youdon't want to know. It wasn't like
I pulled a Caitlyn Jenner or somethingthat was as tit an answer as you
could get. Yeah, what aboutyou, dan Well? You hit me
up with the news bro. Itend to get a lot of the news
from a Donnie text. It's like, this guy's on it. Oh he

(40:07):
is, he is, he isone of he's the weekly World News.
He is a rag magazine I read. I'm sorry. I think my response
was, Yo, that's huge newsbecause obviously the story of Nicole Brown and
Ron Goldman's murder is the biggest storyto ever come out of anything O.

(40:30):
J. Simpson related, regardless ofhis football heroism. I thought it was
goofy as fuck today to see asmany tributes as I did. He's a
double murderer and there's nothing to tribute. And that was my thought, is
let's see how the world reacts tothis, because I'm like, you know
what. I talked to my momabout it. She's like, well,

(40:52):
you know, at least he finallygot his come up, and so I
go, no, he didn't.He lived another thirty years, right,
and uh, you know those fansevery day playing golf. Yo had the
ad speaking of social media, hadthe audacity bro to get an account and
start giving his take on ship likelike people were about O Jay. Listen,
man, I'm not that I promisenot trying to use this as a

(41:15):
plug. But the vigilante in mesays someone should have got him a long
time ago. And honestly, uh, you know, good riddance, you're
a murderers. That's my that's mythought. My second thought on what was
he awesome? Now I own footballjerseys of two dead murderers. Wow?

(41:38):
What? Yeah? What is it? Hernandez? Yeah? I got a
jersey you do. Yeah, Igot a Ray Lewis jersey because I'm convinced
he must have somewhere in his lifehe must have done somebody. Those are
some savage Halloween costumes. Bro.Oh wow, it only collects jerseys of
murderers. That is true. Thatis true. Wow, you got Tom

(42:00):
Brady in your closet because I thinkthat guy is suspicious for a lot of
shit. Wow. So my initialthought was, you know, at least
now O. J. Simpson canrest peacefully knowing that the man who killed
his wife is dead. Yeah,that was my That was initially my first
thoughts. But when I was lookingon social I was shocked at the number

(42:23):
of people and I think it's mostlythese gen Z gen Z trolls that are
like, seriously, it's it's wildthat he had two thousand yards in a
fourteen game season. Who who care? Like are we kidding? Like you
know this is this is something thatwe just it's irrelevant, it's you know.

(42:46):
And I had a similar conversation withsomebody. Sorry, I had a
similar conversation with somebody last week becauseit's Wrestledmania week. So this name pops
up and it was Chris ben Waugh. And you know, someone made a
comment to me and said, youknow, Chris bin Wall deserves one day
to get into the Hall of Fame. I'm like, no, he doesn't,

(43:07):
No, he doesn't. And you'retalking about me, a person who
was a huge Chris ben Wah fan. I literally sat down with Jeff Merrick
and Chris ben Wah. We brokebread together on more than one occasion.
I could never say he was afriend, but he was someone I would
text with on occasion. He wassomeone that I had a familiarity with,

(43:30):
and if I saw him, itwas always like the you know, the
DAP and the and the bro hugand all that shit. Right, And
then as soon as I heard this, I'm like, fuck him. I
don't care if he was good atSuplex's. He killed his wife and child.
Fuck him. We also you gotto remember, though, we come
from the same generation that it wascool to be walking around with a Charlie

(43:54):
Manson T shirt on, right,right, So there's a sect of people
out there that that's just early trolling. If you were walking around with a
Charles Manson T shirt on, youwere trolling before there was the Internet.
Like you have to you absolutely haveto assume that people are not silly enough

(44:15):
to actually think, oh, hey, he was just misunderstood, or he's
just having a bad hair day.Oh he's a fucking murderer. Yeah,
And I think what people need torealize, even if they're attempting really poorly
to acknowledge a different part of hislife or whatever he brought to football lore

(44:35):
or in Benoa's case, wrestling history, is even like, for example,
I think, is it CPT thewhat's the the brain CTT? What did
I say, Compton? That's aptas I'm still too fun ct Even though
there are arguments to be made thatmaybe that was impacting Chris Benoit, you
still have to understand the impact ofwhat happened. And out of respect for

(45:00):
Daniel ben Wah and Nancy, youhave to respect their lives enough to go
I won't celebrate him because this iswhat happened to them. So same thing,
even if you're convinced, like andI don't know who is, but
oh J didn't do it, Likeyou don't have enough to go around with

(45:22):
an O. J. Simpson jerseyor T shirt on and not expect side,
Like, come on, man,those people were murdered and let's be
real about what happened. We allreally know. So I don't care how
many Heisman Trophy, whatever his successwas, it's it is irrelevant. And
you just even if you even ifthere is doubt, because he did he

(45:42):
was acquitted, right, there's reasonabledoubt. Respect the dead more than you
do a football career or a wrestlingcareer. He was acquitted because that prosecution
team was fucking disaster. But yeah, the last point I'll make on this
was, you know, this pastweekend, Dan was at my place all
weekend we were taking in WrestleMania,and I told him about this thing where

(46:05):
people did were getting all over PaulHayman because during his Hall of Fame speech
for the WWE, he mentioned abunch of names of people that you know
he was with early on, especiallyin the ECW days, and someone said
to Paul afterwards in a press conference, said well, what about my boy
ben Wah? You didn't mention him? And he goes, oh yeah,
fuck your boy, ben Wah.He said, you know what, that

(46:29):
house in Atlanta, only one ofthree people had a choice not to die.
That's it. And if he hatedlife so much, he should have
just killed himself and moved on,you know. And like Paul knew Chris
very very well, and he's notinterested in sharing a hall of fame with
that guy or anything. Switching gears. I want to throw this one at

(46:53):
you, Dan, because I'm reallycurious to hear your take. The author
of the Harry Potter series, JKhas said today that she will never forgive
the stars of that franchise, DanielRadcliffe and Emma Watson for speaking out in
support of trans rights. Wow.She she's going to She has gone so

(47:17):
far as to say grand's rights takeaway from the rights that women have fought
hard to earn. Hmm. Wow. Yeah, she's she's really holding on
to that one. Man. That'scrazy. I think that honestly, bro.
And you know, we've had alot of off camera, off show

(47:40):
conversations about this. You know howhuge I am on human equality, on
peace, love and harmony, youknow, and you know it always really
just gets under my skin when there'sa group of people being disrespected and prejudice
against, and I just I don'tstand for that, this whole thing with

(48:02):
I don't know the specifics as towhat Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Thompson have said
outside of what you just did,but I do think that there's facets where
you can say, okay, inthis particular facet. I'm concerned about safety
for example. Like we've talked alot about say sports mma and competitors who
are trans fighting non trans competitors,and the discussion is around whether or not

(48:27):
that's fair in terms of their say, muscle mass or body size and stuff.
I've heard conversations like that. Theygive me pause and go, yeah,
I can see a point if aperson's health is in jeopardy, I
understand points being made in that specificconversation. The simple idea of offering equal
rights to human beings, though,I think, is a non negotiable topic.
We all deserve to be treated equally, period, And if you're going

(48:51):
to take that hard a stance,it shows me what side of the fence
you're on. It's pretty simple tofigure out. It's really simple to figure
out. Guys. If you donot agree with somebody's personal life stands,
don't fuck with them. Yeah,it's pretty simple. If I don't like
a show on TV, I canchange the channel. It's not in my

(49:13):
life, it's not in my wheelhouse. If you if you make it a
point of going after somebody because ofthe life that they're living or right,
then that's more. That's more atail on the type of human being you
are, not the type of beingthey are. I agree when the conversation
goes one way, but and whenwe're looking at it back the other way,

(49:37):
by your logic, I hear jkRowling spitting anti trans hate speech,
and because I don't agree, Ishould just turn a blind eye and say
that's not for me. I don'tcare about that take. To me,
it's the same as the difference betweenI'm not in favor of racism and I
am vehemently anti racist. For me, it's the same. And when I

(50:00):
a person say trans rights take awayfrom women's rights, to me, that's
the same as saying, well,white lives matter too, right, right,
right right, it's stop stop givingthis other group preferential treatment because I
want that preferential treatment. I deserveit, and that's generally I have to
try to take it from you.Yeah, that's generally where that type of

(50:22):
hate comes from from the people whohave already experienced and enjoyed preferential treatment and
feel somehow that it's going to begiven to somebody else now, and therefore
my rights have been taken. No, your rights aren't being taken. They're
just getting the same ones that you'vealready enjoyed this whole time. You have
to share. It is share.Yeah, you have to share, you
know what I mean? Oh,oh, somebody took my crayons and this

(50:45):
is what I mean, psificity,What did I don't know if she said
it, bro, But what typeof rights are does she think are being
taken away from women? There's awhole list of things, but you know,
we don't have enough time to gointo the dive of it. Regardless
it's if a person is trans maleor female, they are still a person.

(51:07):
I probably won't like the person ifthey're an asshole more so than what
they're what their deal is, youknow what I mean? I mean,
Yeah, that's my barometer for judgmenttoo asshole or cool? Right? Right?
Just because you're trans doesn't mean I'mdown with you. Caitlyn Jenner's an
asshole, you know that's like right, They've just become a horrible human being.

(51:30):
Has nothing to do with the lifestylethey choose to live. That's the
barometer we should be judging people byswitching gears tid. I don't know if
I remember having a conversation about thiswith you in the past. I probably
have, and I've forgotten because I'mgetting old and I'm I'm becoming a little
senile. Are you a fan orhave you been a fan of the greatest

(51:52):
television show of all time, CurbYour Enthusiasm. I do appreciate Curb your
Enthusiasm absolutely. Did you check outthe series finale on Sunday? I have
not as of yet. No,okay, it's so. As soon as
WrestleMania forty ended, Dan and Ifired up in the last episode of Curb,

(52:13):
which just finished airing. It wasfantastic. The show is great.
I personally feel a small hole inmy heart that after twenty four years,
there are no more new episodes ofCurb coming. But a funny story that
came out this past week while LarryDavid was out promoting the final episode of
Curb, which, by the way, he's like those old hip hop heads.

(52:35):
He hates doing it. Yes,he does. I know that about
him. Yeah, he might bea rapper, yes like that for sure.
He's old school. But Larry Davidsaid, I don't know if you
heard the story or not. Dan, he got his agent to get a
hold of Dwayne the Rock Johnson.Okay, and he got onto an hour
long phone call this past week withDwayne the Rock Johnson, and I heard

(53:00):
both guys talk about this individually ontwo separate interviews. They both gave their
take and they were surprisingly similar.So what happened was they got on the
phone and Larry says, hey,Duayne, you're you're starting this UFL football?
Do we need the field goal posts? Do we need goal posts?

(53:22):
We don't need goal posts. Comeon, Duayne, let's get rid of
the goalpost. Nobody likes the kicker. And he went on a rant for
an hour. Field goals are stupid. Extra points are stupid. Get rid
of it. And the Rocks like, well, we did get rid of
extra points in the XFL touchdown withseven points. He's like, hey,

(53:45):
you get it, you get it, okay, me and Migo, All
right, now, how about thefield goals and the punts just stupid.
If it's fourth down, you losethe ball right there, That's it.
The game is more fun. Nobodywants to see kicking. It's this tiny,
little nuanced part of it. Hegoes. He goes, imagine if
a baseball game is tied at theend of nine innings and then you have

(54:07):
a guy step up to the plateand take a ball and just try to
throw it into a net in theoutfield. Right, He's like, it's
a completely different skill that has nothingto do with everything else you've watched to
this point, right right right,That sounds like it should have been an
episode. The only thing I get, Yeah, the only thing I get

(54:29):
from that story is I'm sorry thatthe Rock was never a guest on Curb
Your Enthusiasm, because that that soundslike it would be unbelievable. Yeah,
but that show is probably my favoritecomedy series ever. I speaking of old
school and speaking of collectors, Iown every season of Curb Your Enthusiasm,

(54:49):
and yes, I will buy numbertwelve when it's out, and I can't
tell you how much I love literallyall one hundred and twenty episodes. I
don't think they took an episode offwhere I'm like, yeah, I didn't
really laugh. It's always been funny. I think it's superseded Seinfeld. Yeah,
it's unbelievable that it's been twenty fouryears, twelve seasons. It is
beyond hilarious and wow, but Iget his reasoning for an all fairness in

(55:15):
all fairness, twelve seasons over twentyfour years. Come on. He could
have been like everybody else in Hollywoodand just put him out at a normal
pace. But he was like,now now I'm gonna make all you assholes
wait an extra year every single time. It sounds even, but it wasn't
sorry. Since he was done,he didn't wan't do anymore. Well,

(55:36):
he was touched. They took ahiatus after season eight, so it wasn't
as even as the math makes itsound. After eight he took a few
years off. Don have you evenseeing clear history yet? I keep plugging
it. Yes, I did watchit. I did Okay, so he
did that and he did something onBroadway I think, so he took time
off and came back and I rememberthem going. HBO has an open contract
for this guy, like, We'renever canceling your show. Whenever you want

(56:00):
to do it, do it.He finally came back. So season nine
was the tagline was he left,he did nothing and he returned, or
something to that effect, and thenhe did nine through twelve and he called
the shots. He's like, Okay, I'm done now. It feels like
going. If he wanted I feellike Larry Davis a guy though that if
he took time off, it wasto go come up with new material,

(56:21):
go have more new life experiences thathe could bring back stories and create new
episodes for. I mean, hedid talk about he did talk about how
he had anxiety when Seinfeld got renewedafter season three because he's like, I
can't think of anything else, right, I'm gone. I don't want to
talk about that. Yeah. Yeah, But I'm surprised though, because the

(56:42):
brilliance of both Seinfeld and the Curbshows are it's about everyday bullshit we always
go through. They just make ita point to really be naggy about specific
things, and I think that's thebrilliance of the show. I actually saw
an interview where Jerry and Larry agreat offense to this narrative that's out there
about the Seinfeld Show that it's ashow about nothing. He's like, we

(57:06):
made that joke in one bit onone episode, and it became the glue
that everyone connected to our show.He's like, it's ridiculous that it's a
show about nothing. It's a showabout everything. It's a show about small
things. Agreed, that's what it'sreally about. Yeah, And Jerry took
great offense to the to this taglinethe show about nothing, because that that

(57:28):
tagline stuck forever. When when Danand I were watching the finale, there
was a moment in the last inthe last act of the of the show
when we thought, oh my god, yeah, Larry wrote this episode and
he's going to kill himself off sothere's no more crew, and so the
network can't be like, please Larry, season thirteen, We'll give you whatever

(57:52):
you want. No, I'm dead, you know, but thankfully that door
is still open. But tid yourthoughts on Larry's request to the Rock,
should football get rid of goalposts?I mean, if you're asking everybody but
the kicker, yeah, then probably. But that dude, that dude's got
bank kickers make a hell of agood living. And he can go around

(58:15):
and tell people I play in theNFL. Now we know what that kind
of you know gets him right?So do you agree with him that it
would be a more entertaining game withoutkicking. It's kind of double sided.
I mean, yes, I understandwhat he's saying, because you know,
for the punting so much, butif you have those field goal attempts,
when we've got guys now in theNFL that are kicking sixty plus yard attempts,

(58:40):
it's just getting further and further back, and you have that possibility of
that doink, that double doink comingoff of there, those game winning like
you know, field goal attempts.That is gonna make it? Do you
ice the kicker? Like so,I see the drama and the allure of
having that the field goal kicker.But punting, I mean, come on,

(59:00):
there's another word that rhymes with punt. I think instead of I think,
instead of the drama of a fortyfive yard kick, I'd rather see
the quarterback step back and air oneout and if you make it, you
make it, and if you don't, you fucking lose. Maybe you do

(59:22):
something, Maybe do something like howthe NHL is doing overtimes. Now it's
three on three. You take abunch of players off the field, spread
everybody out and see if you canpass to a dude and just dodge the
three or four dudes who's still onthere? Bro, Like throw in two
weapons, one for each team.Yeah, add weapons. Yes, that's
the chairs and Davis at LEAs WarriorDan everyone knows. Now May tenth,

(59:51):
my mom's birthday. Very nice,although I won't get to see her this
year. On her birthday, mymom is getting on a jet plane and
to the Motherland. So but Iwill get on a video call with her
on May tenth, and I willget myself my copy of Vigilante And all

(01:00:12):
of you out there can pre orderit right now by going to Dan Hypheny
Hypheno dot com and you can dothat today and then you can get it
on the tenth of May. Yes, rhyme done. Yeah, thank you.
So make sure you go to YouTubeand check out the video for the

(01:00:34):
new song like We featuring Blessed.It is Danio's new track, and I'm
telling you all don't even give ashit. If you're a hip hop fan,
this song will connect with you.I sent it to one of my
good friends who doesn't really even likehip hop, and she called me within
ten minutes and said, that freakingsong is amazing. That's so dope.

(01:01:00):
I'm telling you, Uh, it'sthe best ship that Dan has put out.
And he's he's put out five hundredalbums over his career, so our
give or take. But there's beena lot of stuff, a lot of
collabs, a lot of singles,a lot of music that he's put out
over the years, a lot offeatured on for other people. This is
the best shit you have done,in my opinion. So I want everybody

(01:01:23):
to get behind it, and we'reall going to start writing letters to the
Juno Committee. Okay, that's whatwe're mel Boogie. I'm coming for you.
I'm getting in your inbox, melBoogie, And I'm telling you,
Danny Oh, you need to makesure your boy gets himself a Juno nam.
This is the kind of album thatwill make Helen Keller tap her feet
a man, yo, Brose,I gotta I gotta tell you this.

(01:01:47):
Something I want to say is Iwanna I want to shout out this incredible
thing that the three of us oncecreated. The Godfather's at podcasting has a
deep tie to the Vigilante album andways, and I want to shout that
out real quick. Tid. Firstof all, thank you man, your
recommendation to the homie Doug Knight pannedout. Doug Knight of Cross Eye Comics

(01:02:08):
is the illustrator of the Vigilante albumcover, so that was a tid referral.
And not only is Doug a reallydope dude, but man is he
talented. And for a legally blindartist to have taken the vision that I
had my head and the way thathe came with it for this album cover,

(01:02:28):
I couldn't be happier. Also,a huge thanks to both of you,
because, as you guys know,one of the reasons I had to
take a leave from this very showwas that I was so hyper focused on
this album and many of the topicsthat the three of us discussed on this
show during COVID when we started theshow, George Floyd's murder, amaud Arbery's
murder, I mean, the listgoes on and you know what I'm talking

(01:02:50):
about, made its way onto thisalbum. This was one of the outlets
that I was able to use todiscuss my feelings about these things. But
as you guys know, my numberone outlet to express myself is my music.
And thanks to you guys and thesupport you showed me both on the
show and also the support you showedme when I had to leave the show
to focus on the album. That'swhat helped make the album what it is.

(01:03:14):
I put in a ton of effortand work, and with your support,
you know, literally, I wasable to focus and make it happen.
So thank you bros for having meback man to obviously promote it,
but also thank you for the supportyou gave me during the process of making
it, because without it, Idon't think it would be what it is.
Much love to Reed, and that'swhy I want you to understand what
you've just stated is a legally bindingverbal contract that entitles Tidwell and I to

(01:03:37):
royalties on this album. I wantyou to realize you just said publicly you
could not have made the album withoutus. Therefore, we are both accepting
EP credits and we are both takinga chunk of sales. Listen, I
was gonna be free and give youall of that stuff. I just was
going to be your plus plus oneat the Junos. That's it. Okay,

(01:03:59):
Well, I'm sure I can workthat out, man, because y'all
deserve it, and I appreciate youguys so much, always have, always
will. Man a man who oncehad a comment a line about even if
he was nominated for a Juno,he wouldn't go because it's on WrestleMania weekend,
and he was like, fuck that. That once happened. There was
a WrestleMania weekend which was also theJunos, and those were the days where

(01:04:23):
it's like all about WrestleMania. Yeah, yeah, hey, Juno's I'm sorry,
see what happens? To see whathappens. Yeah, regardless of what,
man, this this is my favoriterecord. I'm proud of it,
so looking forward to seeing what everybodyelse thinks. But I appreciate you guys

(01:04:44):
for helping me push this thing forto Dan Hypheny Hypheno dot com and pre
ordered now. Thanks my brother,We'll talk, Thank you peace. Guys.
Is he gone? The album sucks? It? Really? Do quite
good? Still this? No?Hey, he's still around back there.
Listen. Here's the reality of it. And I've said this before about about

(01:05:05):
Dan's music. I either like itor I don't listen to it. And
I listened to all of this albumlike I listened to it, you know
what I mean, Because it's good. It deserves it. Listen. I'll
be the first one to tell him, you know that right, this one
deserves every little bit. I toldhim I really wanted it to suck because

(01:05:26):
it's so much more fun to risehim. Yeah, it is, but
you can't fun. You can't onthis one because you be a liar.
Yeah. I really wanted to notlike it, but good his hairline,
it's horrendous. We gotta find something. Let's wrap this bitch up. Remember,

(01:05:49):
go to Dan Hypheny hyphenode dot comand uh pre order Vigilante. Also
go to barboneal Beer dot com.And while we were doing this show,
tid well, I just got newsabout a new sponsor that's going to be
coming on board with us next week. So I won't I won't shut it

(01:06:10):
out just yet, but the conversationis there, and I'm stoked because I
really love their product and I thinkit's going to be a cool thing for
us to share with people. Socome back next week. I meant to
ask Dan, by the way,because next week's guest is a guy who
he knows really well. We arescheduled to be sitting down with the man

(01:06:30):
of a million voices, Eric Bowsa, Toronto Zone, Scarborough Zone and obviously
Dan and Eric go back a millionaires. And Eric is one of the featured
voices on the new Disney Plus showX Men ninety seven. Now, I
know that you always make fun ofthe the the the marvel shit tid,

(01:06:55):
but back in the day, inthe in the nineties, in the mid
to late nineties, to watch theoriginal X Men animated show and it was
good. It was good. Andthis show, this new one, is
so fucking god. It's just sucha fucking nerd well, good good.

(01:07:16):
I'm sure Dan is like you.He hasn't watched a minute of it,
but I'm sure his brother, theinfamous comic Heead, has been all over
it and telling Dad, Yo,Dan, you gotta watch X Men ninety
seven. I'll bet you that conversationhas happened at some point. And I'm
telling you now, Ted, youshould go watch X Men ninety seven.
Oh, I could tell you afew things you should go do to yourself.
Okay, listen, regardless, reirregardless, whatever it is. Eric

(01:07:39):
Bowsa is such an amazing talent,and it's been a minute since we've had
a chance to catch up with him, and he's been just busier than the
three pacord Billy got. I canonly imagine the stories he's gonna have for
us next week. So you knowwhat I mean, Check it out,
come back, see you then that'stid I'm Donnie. This is episode one
seventy one. It's the same forwardsand backwards. Can listen to this whole

(01:08:00):
show on rewind, and I thinkit'll be the same. We'll see you
next time less Okay, okay,I'm instantly interested in every inkling of your
existence. No I'm not, butInstagram gives you that impression, and so
you show a lot of picks andbits, some intimate, some ignorant.

(01:08:21):
Most are not legitimate. But ifit may boost your reck, you'll consider
it worthy of poster. It's dirty, of boasting. You make more money
than most men to dash. Youlike to hold up like a cloth man.
I need I be broken. Seekat how you got your confidence,
your lines, get your likes.I see through them with no opometrists.
Honestly, I'm astonished with how,let's say, Twitter makes today's critters think
there's a chance they can fucking playwith us back in the day's fitters.

(01:08:43):
I'm repping for all of us wholaid the foundation, but just having a
master followers. Trive Swallow was watchingthis new era of artists tear an a
pause, this culture. We careron our hardest gaily laws when they got
no flow, but to figure outan algorithm to make them are famous than
that photo of moth Tin. Ilike where they're not off, like where
I like where iven't been for ithook shit the world, norwhere they're not

(01:09:09):
off like wit. I like wherethere not off, like where I like
where I before hook the world,norwhere don't believe the heights and the flavor
flavoring eighty eight. The statement madethe lad to waste the media like they
for plates they got served decades laterin the pot stir they got replaced socially
for kids are booking something they don'twant to face. Ironic leader. They

(01:09:30):
educate themselves via perspective a strangers basedon the various posts they've selected, till
I can comment on so fast asa Ramadan kist herself to be friends a
lot like they constantly go in thecomic con who guess they give up real
girls and dudes for box live showstraded for our feeds with no food for
thought, loud streams with no clothes, no pros to hiring. Go see
hands in the Aaron streaming host spotfor fire remojis. I'm dying here slowly.

(01:09:53):
I find that I'm lonely because whyI'm U poste a hundred life.
You know, it's like nobody knowsme. I don't get to real talk.
I'll let embarrassment can use the sky. I don't set limits by character
camera. I'm not bad language ourlike where they're not talk like where I
like when Love before spoken the worldNorway that's not stuf like way A like

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wire and I'm rof like w Ilike when Love before it but spoken the
world Norway them fas on my strofirst daft ormanship is so drum chest studies
extream worry us from cheers on thefish. You have the concept b cheesy
be with them when Danny You're abouton the electric sir, because battle bit

(01:10:39):
definitely as Defoe around Nelson for drums, shock clear around their grip soccer te
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ware love before it with spok anight ches there were now and then not
sound like well our live wire andoff like I like home before I get

(01:11:02):
off. He spoke the world Norway. But this ship I'm mount, But
this ship I'm mount. No thanks, don't many. I'm gonna just grab
myself and lease, excuse me,please, but this ship I'm mount.
Help, but this ship I'm mout. All right, then, I don't

(01:11:25):
know what the butcher's happened, butI don't really care. I'm gonna get
the fucker Patty here his ship.I'm out