Episode 172 with Ryan McCombs

This week, the Godfathers welcome one of the loudest voices in metal, the front man for both Drowning Pool and SOiL, Ryan McCombs!

Ryan has an interesting story in the music world.  He started out as the singer of Nu Metal band SOiL before decided to leave in 2004.  A year later, the band Drowning Pool (known for their mega smash hit "Bodies") was in need of a new front man after singer Dave Williams passed away.  So Ryan stepped in and became the singer of Drowning Pool ... for 7 years.  At that point, he left and went back to SOiL!  

Last year, it was announced that Ryan was going to re-join Drowning Pool, while continuing to front SOiL!  What a love triangle!

We talk to Ryan about all of that, and a whole lot more!  Don't miss this fun interview!

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Episode Transcript

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Now Here are your hosts, twoguys that have been podcasting online since
nineteen ninety six. The Godfathers arepodcasting themselves, John de Silvas and christ
On everybody. It is Epril eighteen, twenty twenty four. Man that might
name Donnie, and that man overthere, well he's not on screen yet.

(01:15):
There he is that ugly so obis my boy. He is the
Jack Black to my Kyle Gass,the James Hetfield to my Lars Alrich.
He is the Lemmy to my Larry. That's notorious. T I D Chris
did well, what up? Tod? I'm so glad you took the law's
role. Yeah, I gotta bethe dick. That's just all space made.

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There might have been a problem otherwise, But thank you for the lamban
though I appreciate. Yeah, youlove me, but listen. As much
as appearances would lead people to thinkthat you're the asshole amongst us, the
truth of the matter is you havesort of softened in your old age.

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You're not as much of an assholeas you used to be. And yet
I'm becoming more of an asshole.Well, you're also like, I don't
know, like ten years younger thanI am. Wow, not exactly,
but sure, I'll take it,you know what. I you know what
I realized today, Bro. Irealized today because I was looking at a
new house, and I realized todaythat like, this is the year when

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my birthday comes around this year inNovember, I can fucking qualify to live
in a retirement community. What's up? You should have told me that.
What's up? You shouldn't told methat. Yeah, man, that fifty

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five sneaks up on you real quick. After fifty is a cool thing,
though, because you're like, youget to that point or you wait for
so long, you're like, youknow, what that over fifty thing?
Fuck it. I can say whatI want. You can't say shit about
it because what are you gonna do? Oh, it's just old guy spewing
garbage. Right cod On, Imet you when you were like twenty three

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or something. Since when have younot said what you want? That has
that's irrelevant. I'm an old soul, Donnie at twenty three, I'm an
old sol That's that's really what itis, right, the mouthy prick.
Hey, yeah, we were aboutto get to our guests, but something
just came across my screen. Actually, legit, it just came across my

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screen. I don't know if yousaw this. Breaking news, A little
bit of news, A little bitof news, breaking breaking current news,
news, breaking news, breaking newsfrom the sports world. The Arizona Coyotes
from the NHL are moving to Utah. That's I don't know. Is that
a move up? Is that alateral move? Is that a down move

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a Utah? I mean, look, the players aren't gonna feel like Tempe,
Arizona is South Beach compared to SaltLake City. Like there's into Salt
Lake City. They're ain't shit todo. Yeah, and is it gonna
be Salt Lake City or are theygonna be stuck in like Ogden or some
bullshit? Or did the jazz play? I think they're in Salt Lake City,

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right, I'm assuming they're sharing thearena. More than likely it's Utah
Lask my brother. He lives therenow, poor soul. But he's getting
a hockey Good for him. It'sgetting a hockey team, all right?
Follow up news, Nobody in Arizonanoticed a Yeah, it's just nobody gives

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a shit. All right. Interesting. We will maybe talk about that a
little more later, probably not,hope nobody cares. So without further ado,
ladies and gentlemen, it is timeright now for the Big Hello and
this week's guest. He is makinghis first appearance on this show, and

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we are stoked to have him.He was born in the tiny town of
Monsey, Indiana, and despite thefact that Munsey has fewer people living there
than people who attended Night one ofWrestleMania, there have been a few big
names to come out of there,mainly athletes like Pro Bowl linebacker Ryan Kerrigan,
ball state legend and NBA fan favoriteBonzi Wells, and a guy who

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played ten years of pro baseball righthere in Toronto, Adam Lynd. That
is to say, tiny little Munciehas made an impact on the world,
but this man might be the bestmetal front man that that cute little town
will ever produce. Back in nineteenninety seven, his voice was heard on
a bunch of mixtapes and compilation CDsand members of the band Soil thought that's

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our guy. Two twos later,he's the frontman for Soil and Damn,
where they cranking out music that Iused to listen to on repeat. My
Soil EP ran through the CD playerso many times it looked like a cat
had scratched that bitch up. Intwo thousand and four, he left Soil
and decided to do his own thing, and about a year later he got
into talks with the guys from DrowningPool. They're iconic. Lead singer Dave

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Williams had passed away at the youngage of thirty and the band needed a
new face and a new set ofpipes and lead. He did. Drowning
Pool released a couple of albums withthis man as their featured vocalist and did
not disappoint, But then he feltsent Seven years after joining Drowning Pool,
who was announced that he was leavingand going back to Soil and today he's

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still with Soil, but it seemshe was longing for that opportunity to go
home again, you see. LikeLady Perry and Orlando Bloom, like Jlo
and Ben, like Gabrielle Union andDwayne Wade, he just can't quit Drowning
Pool. In March twenty twenty three, he was announced he was going on
back and while maintaining his duties inSoil and now he gets to have his

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wife and his girlfriend. Drowning Poolhas a massive resurgence in twenty twenty three
after he rejoined. They're currently workingon media. They got a pack twenty
twenty four and twenty twenty five withdate all over the place. They're currently
on a shore two week break andthen heading back on the road. He's
co headlining a tour with Saliva.Ladies and gentlemen, you're ready for us

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to go while you're sitting in yourhomes. He's the loudest common denominator.
Ain't no Davy Jones. This man'sgot talent. Like his name's Pat Mahomes.
Now let the bodies hit the floor. Give it up for Ryan McCombs,
what's going on? What a frigginintro Jesus Christ. Yeah, we're
completely out of time now, singyou guys, thanks for the time.

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Later, everyone's got a hopidemic,Ryan, that's mine. You just maybe
realize how screwed up my Wikipedia mustlook like? Is that right? What's
wrong? It just looks well?All that was right? I'm just that
at my Wikipedia has to be justa fucking mess, aren't they all?

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Yeah, you're like, aren't all? Wikipedia is just an absolute atrocity?
Anyways? They really are. Ican't remember one time I read. One
time mine read that I lost myfingers on my right hand. I lost
my fingers from playing the guitar sofuriously, so so ferociously that I that
I actually lost lost the digits.Bro. That is that is a pretty

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metal way to say it, youknow what, More metal than that?
I think it's more like I suckedso bad a guitar the fingers just fell
off so I didn't have to embarrassthem anymore. But it was I tell
you what, the what it wasthe end? I don't even know.
It seems like that I've been watchingyou guys right now for about an hour
and a half, but that withthe intro. Sure, it was part

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of the intro that was like,if you're wondering why they're called the Godfathers.
And I was thinking that same thinguntil the picture of me came up,
and then all I could think ofwas Jesus, did you guys like
look for a while to try tofind like a like a picture that looked
more like I was trying to smugglea Michelin tire underneath my chin. I'm
old, I'm self conscious of thatship. Man. Come on, we

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all grow our beards for different reasons. Brother and the wife's girlfriend, tomment,
Dude, that's I'm gonna get insuch trouble with that ship. Listen,
isn't there a metaphor there? Youyou were in soil, you went
to drowning pool. Drowning pool iskind of like your girlfriend and you broke

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up with soil, and now yougot both. Yeah. My wife's English,
she's got one of those dry Englishsense of humors. I don't know
how that's gonna sit. Really,I'm I'm my suckered a little bit,
just wondering how this is gonna go. That's all right. I was like,
you still got drowning Pool. Myhead up after seeing that picture.

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I gotta keep it down. I'mdoing the whole interview like this, no
neck, no net it all.I thought that picture just looks so rock
and roll, man, I wasall over it. Hey, listen,
how the hell you doing. You'vebeen busy, You've been on the road,
You've been playing shows with saliva allover the place. How's that going?
Yeah? Good, good, Thatis good, dude. That is

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the most. That is the mostI have done. Too much fucking media
answer I've ever heard in my life. Oh it went really good. Uh,
we we did. We did abouttwo months run. Drowning pol did
about two month run with them.In any given sin Adelide's way towards it

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is about It was about end ofthe end of third quarter, beginning of
fourth quarter last year, and itwas received so well that the powers that
be decided to throw us all outin the road again together. And it's
a it's a we all get alongso well that it's an easy time on
the road, And when you're outthere for those lengths of time, that's
all you can really hope for,is that you get along with everybody crew

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wise, band and everybody enjoys eachother's company, which is exactly what's going
on with with Saliva and any givenSin, any given Sin man. There's
like new family members right there there. I was not at all familiar with
I don't mean I am, Ilive, I live in the dark,
and I was not familiar with anygiven Sin and I know now that I

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should have been. But UH,got really familiar with them. Got well
that sounded. That sounded. Igot really familiar with them. But no,
the uh I got I got toknow the guys and meant to super
good people and that always means theworld to me. So uh any given
Sin and uh Saliva. As yousaid, we just finished up that run.
We got two weeks off now tillwe finished, we go out to

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a third leg because clearly, youknow, we just haven't beaten the shit
out of it enough. Yeah,your joints are still not aching enough,
apparently, right. Yeah. Yeah, it's been long, it's been a
you know, it's been fun.But at the same time, I flew
into the States February twenty seventh forto start an with soil and Union underground

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and raw and flaw, and thenthat ended, I flew directly to Dallas
to start recording some new music withDrowning Pool, and then flew we then
we started that that snap the legof the snaf Food tour that we just
did. So I actually I gotone more show with Soil this coming weekend,
and then I actually fly home forthe first time, and I'll be
home for the first time in twomonths and move forward to that. Wow,

(12:26):
it's what I mean, how sooninto a two month run do you
just throw your hands up and go, I'm fucking tired of living out of
a suitcase. Bro. It's aboutthe same time that my airplane lands in
the US. Yeah, day one, right, It's it's a I'm not

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gonna you know, it's it's ablessing. I want to start I'm not.
I don't want to come across likeI've had whatever, because it is
a lessing to be able to dothis, and the fact that people give
us the time of day and allowus to still be doing it's frigging amazing.
So I'm beyond thankful for that.But yeah, I mean, there's
a lot of white in this beardhere nowadays, there's a I think CJ

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just came into the room earlier andsaid he was reading something and it said
something along the lines like if youwere born on this date or after,
you're considered a senior now. Andwe both fell into that category. So
we were like, son up,Just like, so what you're saying is
and you and Tit are both lookingfor retirement homes. Is that what you're

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saying exactly? It's the live entertainmentat Shady Oaks, tod It's what I
say to people is like, evenwhen I have to travel to go home
and see family or just travel fromwhen I was doing wrestling and you know,
later on in the year and stuff. It was it turned into I

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love you love being there, youlove performing, you love being in front
of that crowd there, But thattime between that travel, that hopping on
the bus, having to sleep inweird awkward positions, not you know what
I mean. All of that stuffis like time out. I can do
with all of that, you knowwhat I mean, But being the performing

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part. So I get what you'resaying, right, Yeah, I mean
when you look at how long you'reon stage, you're talking, depending on
the tour, you're talking an hourhour, fifteen hour, thirty, depending
on the tour. So I meanthat's your payoff. That's that that hour,
fifteen hour, twenty hour, thirtywhatever it is, that's your's That's

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what makes everything else worthwhile. Butman, when you're in the midst of
all those the other twenty three hoursof the day, it's, uh,
yeah, you kind of you know, I can't wait to go home and
see if my wife will, youknow, let me make the sex with
her or something. You know,it's it's a sex that's awesome, see

(15:05):
Tid. That's why. That's thereal reason. Why not the neck injury.
This is the real reason why youhad to retire from pro wrestling,
right. It's because Ryan talked aboutthe payoff is that hour and a half
on stage, You had seven minutesper match, and you're like, fuck
this. When I got home sevenminutes, it's the same when I got
home too, to do the makethe sex. I thought that that's what

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was going to happen when I retired, But it was seven minutes, and
that was like with a three minutenap in between. Who I'd have to
have at least two sandwiches in there, though, sort of saying, bro,

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let me ask you this, becauseyou've been doing this for a while,
right, we're making all these agejokes. But you've been doing this
for a while. When you're onthe road and you're and you're performing at
this point of your career, doyou give a ship about feedback either from
critics or fans or is it justlike shows done next town. I don't

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give a shit about feedback critics.I mean, that's something I've dealt with
for years. You just you learnright away. You learn right away that
you're not gonna please everybody and don'thelp whether you're wasting wasting You learn that
pretty quick. You know you're wastingyour time if you're trying, and if
you are pleasing everybody, then you'renot being true to yourself more likely.

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So it's a you try to Itry to keep a near two the people
out there that that allow us todo what we do. But at the
same time, you can only doso much of that, because I mean,
I'm a one trick I can't believeI'm still allowed to do this ship.
I'm a one trick pony. Imean, I don't My range is

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about that big. You know,I don't have some There's no Jeff Tait
crap going on here. There's no, Uh, there's no range is even
smaller because you're missing the tip there. I know. Yeah, don't talk
about my tip man, you friendmy wife. Now it's the weird but

(17:15):
uh, the fact that at theend of the day, I'm only gonna
be able to do what I do. And and that goes not just with
with just vocally, not just withwhat comes out of my mouth hole,
but it's also just the writing andthe style of the writing and everything I've

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I've never been it's ever been aIt's I've never been one like like iron
made, like Bruce, like Jamesthat field, and that they can take
like a subject like in history ormatter and write about it. I've always

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just written when I hear a riffthat catches my interests DJ are depending on
the band, whether CJ or whetherit's Adam or throws a riff at me
or Stevie, and it's like,whatever is going on in life at that
point in time is what comes outlyrically. And so you know, if
if if someone didn't like what itwas, it isn't like I could really

(18:23):
change it because I'm pretty limited inwhat I in what I do. I
want to ask you this because Iknow you've done ten million interviews in your
career and you've probably been asked thisquestion a million times. But when I
go around poking for stuff, I'mnot finding unless I'm missing it, bro,

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I'm not finding what feels like definitiveanswers, like, aside from the
cliche irreconcilable differences, what really happened? What really happened? Dude? When?
When? Because when I hear irreconcilabledifferences, all I hear is somebody
fucked somebody's girl or someone's ego isjust out of control. It's one of

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the two. And so what I'mtrying to understand is what happened with soil
and what happened with drowning pool?And then what was the process to patching
those things up? The issues thatwere there before were no longer there?
That is that a person Well youlook at the changes between the when I

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was there originally and when I wasright to be fair, that's yeah,
whatever, And there were issues beforethe band ever got signed. There were
there were personality conflicts before the bandever got signed. There was before we

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went and did we did one demowith a producer. Well, we decided
to do one more demo. Iwas. I got talked to do one
more demo because I left. Wewere at a rehearsal that almost went south
in a bad way, in aphysical confrontation way. And I packed up
my truck and up in Chicago becauseI was from you know, as you

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said, Monsey, India, Iwas from that area, born in Munsey,
but I lived in a town calledDunkirk, or from a town called
Dunkirk. I had my truck packedup, and I was man at that
point in time, I was.I was living in a garage. I
was living in a garage in Chicago. I woke up in Chicago's summers,
in Chicago winters. So it wasbetween waking up and a puddle of your

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own sweat and waking up and scrapingfrozen slive office side of your face.
Did that for three years. Sowhen I had it, when enough was
enough, man, I was justI was done. But I got talked
to do one more demo. Andthat was the demo that we did with
with Johnny Kay and that had Haloand my own and need to feel on
it and everything popped. But uh, we held it together for for two

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records. There but after a whileit was it was. It was very
much I'm a small town guy.Man, I grew up. You talk
about how small months he was.The town that I actually was born and
I was raised in my entire childhoodwas way smaller than that. You're talking
three thousand population, one stop car, one one cop car, one stoplight.

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I'm very simple, a very simpleperson. And the type of people
that you had to deal with industrywise, the industry is we you guys
know, it's not pretty. Ohso the people that I had to deal
with industry wise, as well asthe personalities in the band itself with the

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they wore on my simple, mysimple ways, and I've always believed in
I've always believed in, you know, saying what's up and being able to
fall back for the fact that whateverwas said was was. I'm I'm rambling
on, but yeah, it was. It was personality thing. But for

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me, it was it wasn't justthe band. It wasn't just the band.
It was it was also just theindustry itself. Because when I walked
away, well, I walked awayfrom Soil. There was even from the
label that we were wrong. Therewere so many different opportunities that came about
from bands and from the like differentlabels got a hold of made for like
want me to write with some oftheir baby bands that they were signing,

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And there was a couple opportunities tosing for for different projects that guys that
I was friends with in the withthe then the bands that we're putting together
and and UH, as well asestablished bands that were looking for singers at
the time. But I was justso burnt out from it all that I
didn't have any It was just nothing, nothing interested me. So it was

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I don't blame it on one person. It was it was just a personality
conflict and at the end of theday, be fair and so I don't
look up across the wrong way hispersonality conflict. And you know, as
much as as much as I cansay it was this that because of that
person, I'm sure they could lookat me and go that Country Bumpkin was

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fucking hard to deal with. Soright, but I imagine the process of
going like it doesn't happen a lotin music, right, Like it happens
Vince Neil, Steve Perry Bruce fromIron Maiden. Like it happens where they
leave and come back not a lotof instances of people that leave two different

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bands and go back and and Ilike, when I think about that,
to me, it's like harder thangoing back to an ex wife, because
you got three ex wives you gotto patch up with right in each band,
you got to put your arms aroundthe drummer. Now you got to
kiss and make up with the guitaristsand fuck. I think the best thing
about when when we got back togetherdrawing pool wise, it is it had

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been so long that nobody can rememberwhy we split up. That's the last
it was me and CJ that hadthe conversation was like the last conversation that
was had before we split, beforewe went our separate ways. And I
swear to god, we were laughingabout it because it was it was like,
man, kind of feel like you'reburnt a little bit, yeah,

(24:18):
and blah blah blah. How aboutshould I think maybe we should just take
a you know, take a littlebit off, just take a little time
off. And it was like,yeah, I agree. Next, Yeah,
so that's it, man, We'rejust gonna take a little time off.
And then the next thing you know, it's like twelve thirteen years later
and it's hey, man, doyou feel like going doing some shows?
All right? Sure? And thatthat's really as simple as it was.
It was just kind of like,hey we post is that the most guys

(24:41):
being guys statement? Ever? LikeI just forgot why we were mad,
so we said fuck it. Yeah. It was a Stevie started message of
me one night. And Stevie isstraight up Texas. If you're familiar with
people from Texas, he is straightTexas. No small talk, No,
he's he He's just straight to thepoint and you know, no nonsense.

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So he started texting me one nightand uh, and all of a sudden
it becomes a conversation of small talk, and I'm just like, what the
hell's going on? And so finally, about about an hour out, about
an hour of I was like,dude, you sure everything's all right?
Because usually Stevie and I through theyears, we'd only like get a hold
of each other if there was somethinggoing on in the football world. And
uh, and finally he was like, yeah, man, everything's cool.

(25:26):
He was, well, actually,I was wondering if you'd be interested in
getting together for some reunion shows.And I was like, you know,
without even thinking, I was likeoh hey, hell yeah, let's let's
do that. And then a coupleof days later, their manager at the
time got a hold of me andit was just like the reunion shows is
whatever, Like Niger, the band'sback together. So I was like,
okay, that's cool. I gottaimagine though, like a lot of that

(25:52):
had to do with We also wentthrough COVID as well, so and you
weren't in the United States when COVIDhappened, right right, right, Yeah,
I've lived in England for this willbe my seventh year I've lived in
England, so you had to havesome cabin fever. So I can imagine
the first the first calling that happens, You're like, yeah, yeah,
which I'm there? What well,what, yeah, I can be yesterday.

(26:15):
By the way, you hang upand you go, who the hell
was that? You know? Ohship, I am screwing the big time.
There you are? What the hell'sgoing on here? I don't know?

(26:36):
There you are, but you don'teven know what I did. You're
so small, okay, old guywith technology, Okay, that's all right,
it's story in my life. Whatwas I thinking about right before I
just screwed up my phone? Wewere talking talking about COVID things. Yo.

(26:57):
Yeah, the COVID thing was realtough because I had been married,
uh my wife there who lives inEngland. Reason I live in England and
been married you know, for avery short period of time, just for
a couple of years there before COVIDhit. So all of a sudden,
when it did hit, it waskind of like, we're getting into it,
and she's looking at me, going, you know when we first got

(27:18):
together, you were touring all thetime, and we didn't see a lot
of each other. You leaving sometimesoon, you know, She's like,
better to watch it, And inthe I'm looking back and I'm like,
you know, I haven't woken upin the same place this many days in
a row in my adult life.So I was definitely a feeling it as
well, So you know, you'reright. I mean, they could have
been calling, like trying to getthe mamas and papa's back together and made

(27:41):
the wrong fucking phone call, andI've been like, yeah, I'm in,
I'm in whatever. How many howmany pro athletes have said that right
when they come back from retirement,it's like, I'm going to retire early
because I missed the family and Iwant to spend time with them, and
then they're at home for a yearand it's like they didn't like me that
much, so I'm going back.That's exactly right, I really seeing you

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you right. I want to divein a little bit on the differences the
contrasts between Drowning Pool and Soil,because on the surface, you know,
similar concepts, but I mean,when you think about it, both bands
have gone through several singers, right, and they've had different voices, and

(28:27):
oftentimes your lead singer is also youryour songwriter. So it would stand to
reason that over the course of twentyyears or twenty plus years, that different
albums, different songs are often goingto feel very different thematically because they've come

(28:47):
from different people. But for me, and maybe this is just me,
when I listen to Drowning Pool,whatever album it is, I feel like
there's this common thread. And nowI'm not saying every song, but I'm
saying there's a common thread of isolation, alienation, maybe mental struggles. When
I listened to Soil thematically, itfeels a lot more like interpersonal relationships and

(29:10):
sometimes how those things suck. AmI am I out to lunch or is
there a thematic difference with the withthe bands. And when you're writing a
song, do you think to yourselfinstantly, oh, this is this is
a soil song or this is definitelya fucking drowning pool song. No,
because I've never been able to writemusic. I'm I'm a straight up lyrics

(29:33):
So for me, I've been luckyenough to have to have been in bands
with talented musicians like DJ and Stevieand Mike with A with with with Drowning
Pool or Adam and Tim with withA. Well, I've been lucky enough
to be in bands that there were. When it comes to the music aspect

(29:56):
of been very talented. Music involvedthat that threw stuff to me or threw
stuff at me that got my wheelsturning and got my creative juices going and
and uh and then from there itwas always and also not just talented musicians,
but talented musicians with open enough mindsto understand that if they group project,

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it's they group effort, and sothat in both of those situations,
both bands were always the main songwritersmay be the main songwriters, but they
also understood that every bride brought somethingto the table and they never They weren't
the type of songwriters that it hadto be their way or the highway.
So by the time the song wasyou know, you might get presented the

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song idea by by one of theguys, but by the time everybody did
their thing to it, it's youknow, you could still hold on to
some aspects of the original, butit was, you know, it was
a completely different think and everybody hadto throw a flavor on it. So
I've been blessed being with those typeof guys. So now lyrically speaking,
though, yeah, Like for mepersonally, I can look at my writing

(31:08):
lyrics and be like, thank god, it took me a couple of decades
to find a good woman because Igot a lot of I got a lot
of good songs out of some shittyrelationships or some or some fucked up you
know, childhood trap. And eventhough I don't, new metal is not

(31:30):
conducive to I'm slack, like it'sjust it's it doesn't work, man,
No, No, it's I wasactually I was. I'd actually been out
of a relationship. It was therelationship I was in when we did and
soiled to the album Hole lived witha girlfriend I was in the midst of

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We lived Togeess for about five yearswhen that album came about, and it
was it was a couple of yearsafter we'd split up. She she got
a hold of me and she waslike, I just heard I just listened
to the album whole. She wasfor the first time beginning to the end.
She was like, man, youreally didn't like me very much,
did you? Wow? And thenthe correct answer was like wow, a

(32:16):
little presumptuous that you thought it wasabout you. Huh fuh. Here's my
here's my question. Because you've beendoing this long enough, and you've been
writing, and you say lyrically,that's you're that's your jam. And you
mentioned somebody earlier, and you mentioneda few singers you know that I really

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enjoy as well, Bruce Dickinson oneof the like amazing, unbelievable, but
you talk about Jeff Tate and JeffTate, I mean, for those that
don't elite singer of Queen's Reich orwhatever, and one of the greatest albums
in my opinion for myself, oneof my favorites. It has always been
Operation Mind Crimes, one of thegreatest albums out there, and whatnot.

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But my question you is, howcome you haven't done a concept album yet?
I don't know I got but isit is? It? Is?
It? Is? It not themost metal thing to do? You know
what I mean? Because it wasat one time. I've got nothing good

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for you, because me, asyou guys already know, you can ask
me. You can ask me aquestion and I'll spend seventeen minutes answering the
wrong. But no, I haveno good one with that one that would
be that. Nope, I haven't. No. All right, well,
I want to hold on the list. I want full credits when it happens.

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When you're sitting around next time,ship, you know what we're gonna
do. The concept album. CJwould be the one to right one too.
Yeah. Yeah, he grabbed acouple bottles of wine and me a
couple of bottles of buck and wekick something out pretty quickly, because because
metal hasn't had a it hasn't hada good concept album. And quite sometime,
dude, in a minute, hum, yeah, I'm not at the

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wheels turned well, I'm trying todecide whether you want to mention that to
CJ or not. Just like aconcept album, you would do like a
concept discography. I mean, itwould have its own It would have there
would be a whole nother branch tothe drowning pool tree and that thing is
already looks like a bush anyway,but there would be another branch, Yeah,

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right, it would. It wouldhave like a whole other branch with
seedlings that grew other trees and shipand that would be the concept. Yeah,
you up like you'd end up likethe guys in Sabotage. You know,
I transian afterwards and then you're like, what's going on all of a
sudden, right, You know,guys, guys in our general age bracket

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and I'm not counting Tid because he'smuch older, but guys in our g
age bracket when they were growing up, and I'm guessing it was the same
for you in a small small townand me I grew up in a city,
but I experienced this too. Ifyou were a fan of one genre
of music, specifically, if youliked rock or metal and you're going through

(35:16):
those awkward teen years, there wasa lot of voices from ears of well,
fuck that, like you know,soft rock shit and fuck that pop
music and fuck country and fuck everything, and I feel like there was this
very toxic like gay key and theneven within like for example, the metal

(35:39):
world, right then there was likethe subgenres within metal, and then people
would really be gatekeepy and fucking weird. Two part question one was that your
experience growing up where people were reallyfucking toxic about every other genre of music
if they were really into rock andmetal, And do you see a difference

(36:00):
in either your own musical taste today, not necessarily what you want to play,
but what you listen to or peoplearound you, or like, where
are you at with that? Ithink you're you're absolutely rights. But when
I was younger, I think becauseI paid more attention to it, and
it was more, you know,you kind of find your niche when you're

(36:22):
younger. I think more, maybemore so now. Mine was always really
what I listened to at home wasdifferent than what people knew I was listening
to as far as the people aroundme outside of my home because my dad.
I was really blessed with the familythat I grew up and my parents
were freaking awesome, and and mydad was like one of the one of

(36:45):
the five head supervisors of a classfactory that like employed everybody in every county
around so I and my mom wasa school teacher. I grew up as
Mike and Susie's boy, you know, Oh, it's Mykensusies boy. And
uh and so I I was veryblessed with the incredible parents that I had.
And uh. But what people didn'tknow is that when when the when

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you know, after dinner rolled around, when the front door of the Macomb's
house closed, that my dad strategicallyhad placed in four corners of the front
room these huge stereo speakers. Theywere all wired to a speaker to a
whole stereo system that was kind oflike behind closed doors in a side room.
And when when that big giant frontdoor closed to the front, to

(37:30):
the front of the house, Dadhad that stereo going on. And there
was everything from a C. DC. To Aerosmith to Creeden's clear Water
to the Beatles to Bob Dylan toPink Floyd, Grateful Dead and rolling Stones
going on the house. And mybrother was five years older than me,
So my brother was he got intothe whole Motley crue at years and the

(37:51):
the guns n' roses and poison andand wasp and all that and and so
I grew up with that as muchas I did all this stuff my dad
listened to. So I grew upwith a wide variety of stuff. And
it wasn't ntil then I got alittle bit older that I kind of find
my way in with the als andchains and metallica and and stuff, and
so I was. I grew upwith just a big, wide variety of

(38:14):
music. But of course, asfar as the people outside knew, it
was the Metallica shirt and the andthe black skinny jeans. But uh,
but no, so yeah, Isee exactly what you're saying. You and
that was my niche in school.Those were my that was my that was
my my guy. But yeah,but the but now nowadays, for my

(38:37):
own nowadays, I respect and Iappreciate the fact that there's a there's a
style of music out there that thathits home, regardless of what you know,
hits home for every mood that you'rein. You know, there there's
times when Run to the Hills justain't gonna It's not going to be the

(38:57):
tune you need to hear at thatmoment, right and maybe you know,
and I don't want to I don'twant to dash anybody's thoughts or anything,
but maybe maybe a little you know, maybe attract Mumford and Sons is something
you need to freak and hear atthat moment in time, or or something
off the original Book of Shadows forback while, or or just uh,
you know, the pole Rain andBlood ain't always going to be the mood

(39:22):
center for you. Else that cancan can say what's on your heart at
the moment. And the beautiful thingabout music is when someone's out there saying
that. So I like the factthat today it doesn't feel quite as box
sick as it did, because whenI was a kid in high school,

(39:43):
I was the weird kid who lovedheavy metal but also loved hip hop,
and you know, like people wouldlook at me like, hey, pick
a side, motherfucker. You knowthat was literally, you know, the
attitude I got. I was ina very multicultural school, and all the
metal heads hung out in one hallwayand all the black kids hung out in

(40:05):
another hallway, and they're like,Yo, you with us? Are you
with them? I'd be like,I'll sit at your lunch table today.
Tomorrow I'll sit with them. It'stoday my Spotify playlist. It looks like
it was made by thirty different people. Like it's ridiculous, you know,
because my musical taste is all overthe place, you know, But I

(40:28):
think that's I think that's okay.Like I'm so tired of these people are
like, Oh, I like Ilike heavy metal, not new metal.
Oh I like grindcore, I like, you know, horror core. It's
like, fuck off, you know. Like, my wife had some friends
over to the house. This isa couple of years it's like shortly after
COVID or maybe before. I don'tknow. We know how COVID grewed up

(40:51):
everybody's timeline, but it it wasit was a couple of years ago,
and that it was her friend andher new boyfriend. And he was really
big in the Doom Medal, whichI thought I knew what doom was until
spending two hours with this guy.And he's breaking down the genre of doom

(41:15):
metal into like three hundred and seventyfive different subcategories of doom metal. God,
yeah, watch too much, eachtheir own. Man, And that's
the beautiful again, we just hitit a second that it's a beautiful thing
about music, is there's something outthere for everybody. Yeah, but man,
yeah, I don't give a shitwhat you say. There's not three

(41:36):
hundred and seventy five subcategories of doommetal. Yeah, yeah, it's Northeastern
Norwegian. Didn't burn a church downdoom metal? Yeah. Listen. At
the end of the day, HankWilliams the Third does a set on all
of it, like it doesn't matter. He does the country, he does

(41:57):
the rock, he does the rockabillity, he does the doom stuff is He's
got it all covered. So youknow, just check out Hank three.
So all that, all that beingsaid, Ryan, I want to if
tid, if you have that linkhandy that one of our listeners sent in.
I don't you do? You justdon't want to play it for I

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don't. I posted a question yesterdayon Instagram Ryan, I said, hey,
Ryan mccomb's going to be joining us. If you have questions, let
us know. And one person nameis Stephanie sent this in and she said,
please ask him if he has heardthis remix of Bodies featuring Meghan the

(42:42):
Stallion. I don't know that you'veever heard this tit and I heard it
and we both said, oh,this is not good. But we wanted
to get your take on it,so I wanted to get tit is against
this whole idea. But we're gonnaplay this for It's on SoundCloud and it's
made by thought. Ish. Yeah, well I know what, we know

(43:07):
what thought thought. Okay, let'slet's give this a people, and then
you can just wait hod en right, Okay, listen, listen. Here's

(43:50):
here's the thing. You know whatthis sounds like to me? It sounds
like it should be on the soundtrackof a really confused TV show. Uh
us TV show. Yeah, Idon't. I don't like the uh it's
slow. It puts me to sleep. It's like it's like it's it's drowning

(44:14):
pool played over the top of asex scene on a c W on a
CW program. Everybody's on methadone,right you. I would like to be

(44:35):
as politically correct as er. Ireally appreciate somebody taking the time to uh
sure, yeah, yeah, Iwish them all luck in the world looking

(44:59):
out or tell us what you reallythink. I think that, you know,
to be a part of a bandthat to be a member of a
band that did a song that hasstretched the years as a draft man,
there's gotta be some way I canget out of this? What the fuck?

(45:20):
Do you ever get sick? Doyou ever get sick of playing bodies?
No? No, I don't.Dave was a good friend, and
uh in any time I get theopportunity, I I didn't know that was
when when the guys came to meback in two thousand and five about getting
in the band. I wasn't sureabout it, just because I felt like

(45:44):
I was stepping on Dave's toes,you know. And and it wasn't until
his mom actually called me. AndI had just gotten I'd blown to Dallas
and jammed with the guys, andI was back home in Indiana, or
I was living at time, andJoe his his mom called me and she

(46:04):
was like, where are you at. I was like, I'm in Indiana.
She goes, well, Joe's friendor they they've had a friend.
He rehearses right underneath Dranna pulls rehearsalspot and she goes and he said he
called me and he said that therewas some that they were rehearsing this past
weekend and the singer sounded just likethat Ryan McCombs from Soil, and she

(46:24):
goes, So I was just callingto see where you were, And I
said, I'm in Indiana, Joe. At this time, I was in
my car, so I'd pulled overto take the call. And he goes,
well, I just want you toknow if case it might have been
you, or could be you somedayor whatever she was, I just want
you to know that if anybody wasgoing to do it, David wanted to

(46:45):
be you. Wow. And sowhen when when when Mama Williams said that
it was, it was it wasa go so for me to get back
to your question, for me tobe back doing that stuff, to doing
those songs again, tear Away andCenter, and we just had we added

(47:06):
a song that guys haven't done becauseI when I was getting ready to do
a Drowning Pool set again, I'mlistening. I'm walking around England listening to
my songs again, trying to rememberthe lyrics and uh, and I came
across like the song mute from thatalbum and stuff and got the whole guy
that was like, man, canwe do that? I love the groove
of that song, I love thevibe of it, and that'd be awesome.

(47:28):
I've played that since we did itwith Dave and so. But just
anytime I get to do songs fromthat era in particularly, it's it's special
because it's it's days, you know, and it's it's an opportunity. He'll
always live in our hearts. Andthen I don't I don't mean, I
mean, I love the guy justfor the time that we spent together at

(47:49):
festivals and on tours to you know, on as shows and stuff together.
I got we just hit it offfrom that crap. So when I say
in our hearts, I don't wantto. I don't make a sell like
that. I mean, those dudes, Stevie, Mike, you know that
those guys, those were that's awhole another level. But even for me,
just because of David being the typeof person that he was, he

(48:12):
hit me, so he struck hewe just instantly whatever. So to be
a part of being able to keepthose songs alive, to be a little
piece of still carrying that because ina way it's in a way for me,
it's it's keeping him, you know, it's keeping him in people's ears
and keeping his because they're his words, you know, it's it's his heart.
It's so it's it's an opportunity forme to keep him to keep him.

(48:38):
A contrastly, when you sing songsthat Jason wrote right the previous singer
and in the band when you leftthe first time, I'm assuming there's not
this like emotional feeling because like,you know, he's still around and he's
just doing other things. But isit possible to sing Dave Williams songs without

(49:02):
getting emotional? And if so,at what point did that stop happening?
You know, I'm definitely not beingable to do them again has definitely opened
up a whole another appreciation. ButI'm not sure if I followed directly,

(49:25):
but I do know that that inmy first run of it, I was
so in love with everything I justsaid to you, you know, being
a part of it. But thenas as the years went on, I
did lose some of that. Youknow, shows a week, you know,

(49:51):
you're, yeah, you're doing fivefive to six shows a week every
freaking week one, you know,And after five six years of you know,
you start to you start to Idid. Maybe someone else wouldn't.
Maybe some of us have been better, but I started to lose that hold

(50:12):
on you know. It was morewe were I don't know how to describe
it, man, I just Ileft, I lost I lost a little
bit of grasp on the importance ofthe of the shoes that that I wasn't
saying in his shoes I was bringing. I was trying to bring a good
pair of my own. But butjust uh, yeah, I think I

(50:35):
lost sight of the importance of whatI was being allowed to do and being
I appreciate that now more, Ithink, because or I should say I
appreciate it again as much as Idid at the beginning, if not more,
because you know, I sure didn'tlook I mean, this was us

(50:57):
getting back together. I don't thinkit was on anybody's radar two years,
you know. So you know,all of a sudden happened and I'm able
to take that stage again, andI'm able to go up there and sing
tear Away, and there's I knowwhat that song meant today, he's told
me about We've talked about it.You know, I've heard the other guys
talk about when they were writing thatsong. I've been there for those conversations.

(51:19):
I know what the song meant,But I also know what those lyrics
mean to me. You know,everything happens for reasons. I just don't
know. Do I really want tosometimes and scare myself. I just can't
let you go. You know,there's there's lyrics in that song that as
a as me being a friend tothe person who originallys saying that, it's

(51:40):
a whole nother emotional perspective for me. So yeah, this has been this
if it all ends tomorrow, beingable to get back up on the stage
with those guys and doing these songsagain had been a blessing in my career.

(52:01):
What it's done, in my opinionis it's made you a fan all
over again. If I can youknow what I mean of those lyrics again
because you have a whole new perspectivefor it and you have the enjoyment now
of being able to see it froma different light like everybody does. That's
a beautiful thing about music is youcan hear lyrics and you can always find

(52:23):
some kind of relatable way to whatthose lyrics mean, you know what I
mean. That's what songwriting is allabout. I mean, let's face it,
and you're playing and not only insome of these smaller venues, you
know what I mean, as wellas like these festivals, these massive festivals
that have just got to be thecoolest thing in the world for you guys

(52:47):
again, you have one coming up. I know that you guys are playing
the big one in Columbus, theSonic Temple One. Is there a festival
yet that you haven't played that?You're like, Man, I got to
get this one off my off ofmy checklist that I really want to play.
This one would be fair a little, It's fair. It may be

(53:08):
worked out of my mouth. Man. The between the two bands there there
isn't like the rock rock and rockand Rio Okay, I never I haven't
played that one, and uh maybeI don't know, maybe there's like a

(53:30):
little Since I've lived in England forseven years now, they're like the little
police. A piece of me thatthinks doing that Glastonbury sometime might be cool
or something. But I'm not sureexactly how we'd fit into that whole weird,
weird little thing. But uh,round hole, let's go. If
Skinndrid can do it, they canbring us along them. I will do
it, right. Uh. Iwant to ask you a question that's a

(53:54):
little bit off. Uh oh,sorry, I think you're cutting out there
for a second. I think Imight have jumped over you and we didn't
get what you were saying, Oh, I just I've been I've been blessed
to uh to do pretty much everyevery festival I can think I've gotten to

(54:14):
do. And you mentioned Sonic Templethis year, but we're also doing the
Louder than Life in Kentucky and theWelcome to Rockville down in Florida, and
After Shock and count and we wewe were We got invited to all those
the CWPS festivals this summer. Sothat's gonna be awesome because that's it's like
a big family reunion backstage, justgetting see bands that you've shared time with

(54:36):
over through the years, and twoguys you've gotten to work with and stuff
over the years. Just kind ofcatch up with everybody. Everybody's families are
doing stuff. So looking forward tothat. That's the best I'm gonna go
out on a limb here. Totallydifferent line of questioning, And I really
want to ask this question because Ifeel like most people I've known in the

(55:00):
world, they fit into a certainstereotype of things they like. Do you
like horror? Are you a horrorfilm guy? You're not, okay,
so you're not part of that thatstereotype of metal guys and they love their
slasher films. No, I couldn't. If you notice how quickly I answered
that, No, that I donot have any tolerance for that. We

(55:21):
were I think, I think Iget confused sometimes. I think it was
Soil that was on the Saul twosoundtrack or something like that. You never
saw it. No, I wentto the theater to go see it,
and before that I was okay withhorror films or and that's not necessarily a
horror, it's more of a makeyou tense up and and ruin your day.

(55:45):
Yeah, what it did to me. I remember leaving the theater and
I had been so tense watching thatmovie that I physically felt like I had
been in a car wreck. AndI was like, never again am I
paying money to feel this way?So like the last time I went to
watch a movie that was even closeto the horror genre, I just I've

(56:07):
got to I'd rather I'd rather havesome laugh. I'd rather go watch some
stupid comedy than then, or someyou know, some some like World War
two drama or something, and thenwatch a h then watch a horror movie.
I'm with you. I'm not ahuge horror guy myself. Tidd loves
that genre. He loves it todeath. I'm not I'm not huge there,

(56:28):
but there is a franchise that Iam partial to, and that's the
original Nightmare and Elm Street franchise.I love that shit. And the whole
reason I mentioned this is because rightbefore we went on air, I saw
a story that came down that saidthere is a new prequel TV series about
Freddy Krueger that's coming out in October, directed by Rob Zombie. Yeah,

(56:53):
and the kid, the skinny dorkykid from Road Trip is playing Freddy.
DJ Qualls, the one hundred pounddork from that film is playing Freddy.
And I looked at this that gois Zombie doing a comedy, like like,

(57:14):
it's either going to be brilliant castingor it's going to be ridiculous casting.
And I'm not sure yet. Ohthat the casting definitely makes you wonder.
But good for him. I seenit's good when when old timers get
a job. Damn it. It'sjust when I saw that story, man,

(57:37):
like, hey, God, Igot a picture here, can we
uh? I want to put thisup on the screen for a quick second,
tid I don't yeah, I don'tknow for just for like, that's
Freddy Krueger. Yeah, I don'tknow if I have the heart to tell

(57:59):
you or not. An Hm,you you got interneted. That's not a
real story. It's not a realstory. No, you got interneted.
That's from like a couple of monthsago, even because yeah, I looked
into that as well. This isa new thing going around the internet,
old man is they're putting up robZombie is coming out with these new movies

(58:24):
Dirt Farmer, Dot with You.I literally had it come across on a
news app on my phone right beforethe show news app. I love it.
I love it. I love everythingabout this fucking Internet world that old
people live in now. It's great. Damn it. I'm out, I'm

(58:52):
saying I know. I was like, shit, I'm gonna settle in for
this before we go. I wantto ask you this, Ryan, because
you're a veteran of the industry andyou've been doing this for a long time.
In your opinion, what do youngmusicians today that are coming up,
what do they get wrong? Andwhat are they not willing to hear?

(59:15):
Man? I don't know one thingabout the thing that I see more and
more, or I was seeing itmore and more here in the States,
and I started, I started promotingshows over in the UK, and I

(59:37):
was actually very happy to see ifthere was what I'm getting ready to talk
about was starting was happening over there. I was I was privileged. I
was lucky. I should say thatI was lucky enough too, and and
and soil was lucky enough to bea part of the Chicago scene when we
were and at that point in time. And this it is true with every

(01:00:00):
scene that has ever ever been there. La wasn't saw some magical place.
Seattle wasn't some magical place. NewYork wasn't some magical place. Uh,
Chicago wasn't unmagical. It was thebands in those places at the time that
it happened that that those scenes becamescenes that those bands working together and pulling

(01:00:22):
for each other. And there wasn'tthis cutthroat And I can't say I mean
I saw decline and fall of theWestern civilization in the Middle years. You
know, I'm not so sure therewasn't some cutthroawt shit going on in LA
back in the day. So Iwheb you shouldn't use that as a reference.
But when you think about Seattle,I think it's the same. Same

(01:00:42):
thing can be said that the scenewas strong because the bands worked together when
there was a when there, whenwe were on a show and there was
a band couldn't make it, wewere on the fan with like Dan or
David being like, you know,hey, can you guys get here?
Can you know, Distri, canyou guys get here? You know,
feel out? Or they would dothe same thing for us. You had
five point zero, you had fromzero, you had loud mouth, you

(01:01:06):
had you had a bunch of bandsright there in the Chicago scene. That
made that scene healthy because we weren'tworried about whether we had the coolest gear
or the most the newest gear,or we weren't We weren't worried about the
trivial bullshit we were pulling for eachother because we were smart enough to understand
that if one person could get throughthe doorway, they would kick that door

(01:01:29):
open, and as many of uswould run through it as possible. So
now that it can't necessarily be saidtoday because it is a completely different world
today that we live in. Whenit comes to the music industry, it's
it's it doesn't even resemble anywhere nearthe same monster that it was so I
wouldn't even know where to tell someoneto begin today. And that's I hate
to say that because I don't wantto sound like it there's it's a doom

(01:01:52):
and gloom. I'm just saying thatme personally, I wouldn't know where to
begin today. I wouldn't know whereto start art because it's I mean,
back in the day, you kindof you beat the streets and you you
you sat outside the music venues aftera show and you handed out flyers or
or CD singles or whatever you have, they you just hand you know,

(01:02:13):
you just tried to get your nameout there, and you tried to get
on shows, and you tried toget in the scene. That then you
could build a good scene out oftoday, I don't even know. I
don't know where I begin to tellabout bandy, how you get going?
And I hate that because I don'twant anybody to get discouraged, because if
it's in you, it's if themusic bugs bitten, you're gonna just you

(01:02:35):
gotta you gotta do it. Iwish I had a I wish I don't
know, and I know I justtook your question and went the wrong direction
with it again. And I apologize, but the uh, no, I
I was lucky enough to because I'veplayed, I played on show stages with

(01:03:00):
musicians back then as well, thatI shared the stage with the musicians back
then that were a hell of alot more talented than I was, that
just never got the break, thatnever got the They weren't in the right
place at the right time. Andand regretfully, that's a lot of it.
There's a whole lot of shit youcan do to make sure wet and
head your bet, you know,to make sure that you're you're that guy

(01:03:23):
that's in the right place at theright time, or that you can better
you're odds of being that right guyin the right place. But at the
end of the day, man,there's a lot of frigging. There's a
lot of just trying to do everythingyou can do to make sure the scene
you're in is healthy and that you'reyou're pulling you're pulling attention that way,
at least that's the way it wasfor us back then. Is there more

(01:03:44):
pressure? Is there more pressure becauseyou're a frontman of the band, and
you know, we all know thatthere is a certain image that comes along
with being able to kick those doorsin, especially with the record companies,
because they're looking for something, They'relooking for something special. And I mean,
let's face facts, it's never thedrummer. I wasn't right but you

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but you understand what I'm saying.Like you've your look has changed as you've
gotten older, you know what Imean. But you've you've always had this,
You've always had this like this,this southern flare to you, you
know, for if I can usethat, right, You've you've had this
like this Lenyard, Skinnyerd Almond Brothers, you know, very very hot,

(01:04:27):
you know what I mean. AndI mean this in the highest regard because
I love everything about southern rock,right, Like that's what what the labels
were looking for back then. Wasnot me, That's all because when you
think about like, the only thingthat has changed about my look is is
weight and and the beard. Thebeard isn't just the Abraham Lincoln thing anymore.

(01:04:51):
It's'stasha joined the party. Otherthan that, it's im. You
know. I was walking down thestreet one time going to a Soil show
before we got signed in Chicago.I'm walking down the street and I hear
somebody going Greg, Greg and I'mwalking because my name ain't fucking greg so
I'm not sure. And finally theguy comes up and grabs me by the

(01:05:14):
shoulder and he goes, oh,oh, I thought you're a Greg olmen
amazing, fucking amazing, right.So, but I can tell I can
tell you without a doubt that Idon't know what the industry was looking for.
And you're absolutely right. It's soso often, so often it is
that front man having a look,having a way about them that that is

(01:05:38):
uh, that is part of themystique of the band that draws the attention
of the label. In my inmy case, the label didn't like me.
The label didn't like my look.The label like, you know,
you got to think when Soil cameout me how I could cut their hair
off, And it was it wasa it was a different moment. It

(01:05:58):
was a weird moment. And uh, the label, the label didn't like
my long hair, they didn't likemy beard, they didn't like they didn't
like a lot of shit about me. They didn't they didn't like my my
I don't think they liked my myflat billy accent. They didn't like,
Uh, they didn't like much todo and It wasn't until the Redefined album
that the A N R Our Aand R personal label actually came up to

(01:06:21):
me, goes, for this nextrecord, they didn't like the way I
dressed either. They were like,you know, they wanted more flair and
I was. I was. Theywere like, you can't tell difference between
you and the tech and I waslike, well, fuck, I ain't.
I'm wearing a goddamn Superman costume upthere, that's anyway. But no,
it was. It was. Itwas right after the album Redefined,

(01:06:41):
and and the A and R guycame up to me and goes, I
just want you to go into thisrecord with this in mine. Whatever you've
been doing, whatever you are whatever. He goes, I don't get it,
None of us get it. Butpeople are connecting. But just keep
being yourself. And yeah, I'mlooking at him, going well, good,

(01:07:05):
because I don't know how to beanything else, but you bring out
No, You're absolutely right ninety timethat the singer had to carry a certain
amount of flair or something with himto garner the attention of the labels,
because the label thought that's what Iwas going to take to garner the attention

(01:07:26):
of the of the fan out there. But uh, and they did not
think I had it. They didn'tthink and I saw I still agree with
him, but but yeah, butyeah, he came up to me.
I remember you remember that conversation andwhatever, whatever you've been doing, just
keep on doing it. We don'tget it, but evidently or so.

(01:07:47):
It reminds me of It reminds meof Eddie Murphy's great comedy album Raw,
when he said Bill Cosby called himon the phone and said, you cannot
curse and you cannot talk like this, and then he spoke to Richard Pryor
ta Prior said do the people laughwhen you say that ship? Then fucking
do that ship. And that wasit. There's the best advice ever,

(01:08:12):
the up. Shut the fuck up. Listen, this has been a lot
of fun. Can you do usa favorite next week? Can you put
on a different outfit and come backon the show and do the interview as
Greg Almon? No? I loveall that like, change the outfit and

(01:08:35):
come on the show as Greg Almond. You had the right answer, no
matter what, it was, absolutelythe correct answer. No. Anytime Donnie
says hey, let me ask youa question, the corre answer the correct
answer is Hello Bucks now, amazingToms. Thank you so much for your

(01:09:00):
time. Man, it's been alot of fun. If people want to
get at you, if they wantto find out more about the tour,
where should they go? The probablythe safest bet. As you know,
we've got the Drowning Pool dot comand Drowning Pool dot whatever. Melltickes to
the same drinding Pool website. Butuh, also, you know Facebook is

(01:09:23):
everybody's on the damn thing anyway,So just go over there to the official
Drowning Pool site and everything you needto know tour wise and merch whatever,
whatever the hell you need to knowabout Drawing Pool. It's all on there.
Now. I got my own Ryanmccomb's official page for my own bowl
crap, so yeah, it's allthere. So it's all It's all gettable.

(01:09:44):
I like the way that you constantlyput yourself over. You're like,
you're just like get out there andget some You're whatever. If you find
it, you fucking find it.If I'm around what, I don't know,
dude, you are just as asold as I am. Get off
exactly exactly. We will post thelinks on Godfathers Apodcasting dot com in case

(01:10:13):
you're looking for ship. We'll getit all up there for you. Thanks
so much, man, appreciate yourtime. Thank you guys for your time,
man so much. And you know, keep keeping the metal world connected
much appreciate it. Thank you guys. All right, it's our pleasure.
Harry goes, Ladies and gentlemen.Ryan mccomb's lead singer of not one but
Cool Bands did cool bands? Yeah, pretty cool that he took out the

(01:10:36):
time to talk to us too,schlubs. You know what I mean.
You know, live in a rockand roll lifestyle, and he's like,
you know what I want to do. I want to talk to these two
assholes for an hour of my lifeand I'll never fucking get back. I
want to take time out from makingthe sex. As he said, unbelievable.

(01:10:56):
I'm gonna use that forever. I'mnever gonna stop using that. Well,
I mean, thankfully, you onlyhave to say it to yourself.
Wow, you're stiff something your wifenever says. No, not at this
age. Bro told you retirement community. I'm going to have that employment with
the doctor. Can't roasted. He'sunroastable. It's say fucking annoying. Anything

(01:11:24):
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It's a lot like this without theswearing. It's yeah, it's boring

(01:12:27):
and we're just talking about professional wrestlingon Sunday Night's main event. We'll be
doing another one this Sunday at elevenpm Eastern Standard Time, and I will
be doing a one on one interviewwith our longtime friend, former WWE referee
Jimmy Cordaris. He was at WrestleManiaweekend taking in the festivities, catching up

(01:12:48):
with old pals, and Jimmy isalways a pleasure to chat with, so
I'll be sitting down with him andwe'll be presenting that for everyone this Sunday
at at eleven pm Eastern Standard time. That's it for me on Behalfy Notorious
Tid. My name is Donnie deSilva. Thank you so much to Ryan
McCombs. Thank you to o'donald Mediafor brokering that interview and always being so

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us info at Godfather's Apodcasting dot comand give us your thoughts, your feedback,
whatever you like. Till next time, keep your stick on the ice
and keep your fucking head up.Doss. Fuck this share. I'm mount.
Fuck this shit, I'm mount mount. Thanks, don't momy. I'm

(01:13:34):
gonna just grab myself and please excuseme. Please fuck this share. I'm
mount. Help fuck this shit.I'm Mount. All right, then,
I don't know what the buck justz happen, but I don't really gay.
I'm gonna get the fucker Patty