August 3, 2024 • 59 mins
The Godfathers are back with another killer episode! This week's guest is the hilarious executive producer of the very popular Toronto morning show / international podcast, Roz & Mocha! His name is Shem Parkinson. If you've ever listened to Roz & Mocha, you're already a fan of his - and if not, you will be after this!
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
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Speaker 4 (00:43):
Donnie de Silva and christid Well.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yes, yes, yes, I'm Donnie da Silva. That is my
partner Trus t I d Chris did Well. We are back.
You know, we've been off for a couple of weeks
because you know, summer things.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
But we're back.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So you know, if you're unsatisfied with the service we provided,
feel free to email me and we'll send you a
full refund.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what we'll do.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Let me let me let me set it up properly, ladies,
and Gentvien. He is the peanut butter to my chocolate.
He's the Kobe to my shack. He's the Estelagetti to
my b Arthur. That is the infamous Chris Tidwell.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Wow, those are some mighty big shoes to fill, Like.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
B Arthur's shoes were like size twelve. They had to
have been at least right, Yeah, that was a big lead.
I think they were bigger than that. Somebody got to
do some research on that. I bet you b Arthur
had a bigger foot than a twelve. What's your shoe size?
I don't even know. Thirteen extra fat, You're only a
thirteen at your height.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I thought you'd be a bigger shoe. Yeah, but it's like,
it's not that, that's not the issue. It's the I
gotta get like that triple E thing.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh you got the fat foot, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Those super wide flo and stone I can stop a
car feet yeah yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
The kind of beats the sides.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's why you just wear those like strap on sandals
whenever you can. Right, No, No, I've worked my way
up to slides.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It'll never be crocs. That is just the stupid That's
the dumbest thing.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
In the world. I have to tell you. I'm fine
with people wearing slides, especially this time of year. But
the people that wear the Jesus sandals, like those birken Stocks,
I don't know what it is. Bro Ever said, birken
Stocks and like fong sandals, both of them, the ones
that go between the toe that, Oh my god, those
are the weirdest shoe designs ever to me.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay, first of all, feet are gross. Yeah, they're disgusting.
And let alone having something like stuck between your toes
like that, forget about it. That's disgusting. And the other
thing with the other sandals, the reason you hate those
is because you don't like hippies, Donnie, Is that why?
That's what it is? Yeah, you don't like hippies.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I would have been really angry if I was old
enough to be at what stock. I would have just
been like, can you all put on some fucking vans?
You know, Like I don't know if they had vans
back then, Michael J. Fox some converse. I don't know.
Some Chuck Taylor's up in this house.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Dude, Oh a little saw the videos of how muddy
it was going on over there. But I don't think
some Chuck Taylors would have been a good idea.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
All the more reason now you got mud feet? Who
wants mud feet? While you're listening to Jimmy Hendrix man,
at least then you don't got to look at the feet.
Oh god, it's so gross. Mud feet.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Would you ever? Would you? Would you ever do one
of those foot fetish things?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
What what are you talking about? In one of those guys,
It's like stuck a toe in your mouth. Listen, don't
tell everybody what you and I do.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
On the weekend.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I did share a story, well we could. I'll tell
you this quickly and then we'll get to our featured guest.
Last weekend, I was I had the opportunity at a
super Kick Pro Wrestling show to spend a little bit
of time with two people who I really really like
and I know you like them too, Alex Shelley and
Chris Saban the MotorCity Machine Guns. And we were just,
(04:23):
you know, shooting the breeze, exchanging stories, and somehow, I
don't know how his name came up. We started talking
about Tony Atlas and I told Sabin this story about
one time when I was at a show in Milton,
Ontario for this Mark promoter that ended up ripping everybody off.
(04:46):
And I'm there with Tony and I'm changing in the back.
I'm putting on, you know, nice clothes because I'm going
to do the announcing and all this. I'm putting on
nice clothes I'm changing out of running shoes putting on
dress shoes, and I take off my socks, and Tony
Atlas looks at me. You got some nice feet? Because
(05:07):
Tony has a bit of a foot obsession, and apparently
he doesn't care who they're attached to.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You know, you say he doesn't care who they're attached to.
I'm telling you that he probably thinks you got some
sexy lady feet. I might.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I do think that. For a giant man, I have
pretty feet.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Like like like Britney grinder feet, but like you got
some sex lady feet.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
This is gross. I hate this whole conversation. That's what's happened, dude.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
One day, I'll tell you the story about how when
I first introduced him to WWE referee Adrian Butler. Okay,
oh yeah, and he liked Adrian's pretty feet. Oh, he
liked more than just his feet. Boy, Tony fell in
line and ribbed this kid so hard.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's the best. I feel like I heard this story
a million years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It's the best.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, If I can pull it together
and be a quase professional, it is time right now
for the big hello, and this week's guest is a
man that I met just a few months ago. You know,
it's that old timeless tale of your buddy who also
works in media. Shout out to Jeffer Holman who calls
(06:21):
you up and says, Hey, my pals at Kiss FM
they want to learn how to wrestle and they want
to film it for Instagram. Do you know anywhere they
could go and do that? And I said do, I,
of course I do.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Let me introduce you.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
To my friends at Superkicked Pro in Toronto. So this gentleman,
where's he at?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Is he here?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, let's bring him in.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
This gentleman right here. He showed up a log with
one half of the famed Roz and Mocha morning show,
and they decided to learn the basics of pro wrestling.
And to say I was impressed by this man's tenacity,
ability to absorb pain and just sheer determination would be
an understatement when he's not falling down inside of a ring.
(07:07):
He works daily as the executive producer of the aforementioned
Rosin Mocha show. But let's be honest, he ain't your
typical producer, y'all. This dude's got main character energy, He
shows his comedic chops regularly, both on radio and socials.
His monthly recap tunes are a delight. Let's check out July.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Yes back with another kiss recap.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
First, I'm gonna set a big rest in piece of
Shannon Doorny, Richard Simmons and Bob Newhart. All Right, here
we go, new movie Dead Loverine, Toronto.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
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Oh By, but there could win big at the Emmy's
Donald Trump's shooting by scary stuff oh By not like
us be theo.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Kendrick Ross hiccups A's right, Boblin Case got this missed
Sebo strike of him determined the best Go Canada EuroCup
There was one by Spain Man Copa America Love Island
season was drama and mandam drapa album ingrid andres anthem Disasta,
(08:19):
Rick Ross had beat in Vancouver.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Robert Downey Junior's back, he is Doctor Dum. Microsoft shut
down the place with the movie.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Look good Bye. Didn't out enter kamelap By, didn't out
enter comelap By, didn't out enter Kamala By did out
enter Kamala Hello Kitty not a cat's mister beast O
Why new music Kady Perry and this month July.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I don't know what's wrong with you, young people.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Do you think you just fell.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Out of a coconut tree?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And in addition to all of that, you've seen him
in the past as a contributor on breakfast Television, and
he's an instructor at my alma mater, Humber College Gohawks,
and he even leads his church's choir group.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Good love.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This man have too many job ladies and gentlemen. If
he ever tries stand up, he'll be a problem. He's
got that street cred but plays the system. Everybody done no,
ask demandem everybody done no from here to Bethlehem. Follow
his ig for the monthly post. Mordem. But that bark
and bow those are hominem's. Yeah, that line was whack,
(09:36):
but I'm not eminem. Now give it up to mister Parkinson,
first named shem Bro.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I don't even know what to say. That is an introduction.
Let me tell you I need to save that. Just
play that every time I walk into the office. Thank
you as a reminder.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
As a reminder, this ain't how you wrap That's what
you need to do. Hey, I'm telling you straight up listen.
I'm telling Donnie, I think that that last rap of
yours might have given me Parkinson's all right, I.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Never called it rap. It is just creative poetry, that's
all it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Is, Okay, all right, not that slam poetry though, right, No,
not quite.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I don't have this treet cred to pull off slam poetry.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Sham.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
What up?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Man?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Hey man? How are you getting man?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
We're doing well. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You guys.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
We've been trying to put this together for a minute now,
and I'm glad that you I'm glad that you have time, dude,
because listen, here's the thing. Like I said in the intro,
you and I had a chance to meet a few
months back, and like, I knew that you were coming
into the show, and I don't I'll be honest with you.
I don't listen to the Ras and Mocha show a
lot these days, but when I do, when I do listen,
(10:53):
I love the show. But when you came in and
I met you that day, I was like, this dude
is like he's got star power, energy, and here you are.
You're the executive producer of the show. First and foremost.
Talk to me about that talk to me about that role.
(11:14):
I know that you went to the same school as me,
Humber College. You graduate from their radio broadcasting program, although
you and I are not in the same class. We're
about fifty years apart. But yeah, when you have some
when you when you went to school, was your thought,
(11:35):
I want to be in production or were you thinking
I'm an on air star.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
That's a great question. So actually got to go back
even further. I actually went to Ryerson or now known
as Toronto Metropolitan University, and I did law. So my
degree is actually in law. And I guess I must
have decided, who needs money, Let's get into media. And
so I went to Humber for a year and I
did I did radio broadcasting course there now and no,
(12:02):
you know what, I actually wanted to be a radio star.
I wanted I had my own show for a little while,
was doing overnights for a bit, did the evenings, which
is typically sort of how you start out in radio. Anyways,
you don't you don't get to just jump to the
morning show unfortunately, and then four years into that gig,
there was an opportunity to produce on the Rozmoka Show.
I kind of felt like my on air sort of
pathway had been stagnant quite honestly, and I just decided,
(12:24):
you know what, let's let's shake things up a little
bit and do producing. And I got to say, at first,
I was like, oh man, I'm gonna be buried. I'm
gonna behind the scenes. Who the hell's going to notice me?
Who's going to see me? And being on this show
has given me a platform, I would say, even bigger
and greater than doing my own show has, you know,
and and I and again not to sort of blow
(12:46):
smoke up their ask so they don't need it, but
Rozumoka had been incredibly selfless in allowing myself as one
of their producers, to shine, right Like they they understand that,
you know, if I shine, and the other producers shine
and the people on the show shine, it only enhances
their brand. Right. So they've been incredibly selfless in terms
(13:07):
of allowing me to you know, grow and spread my
wings a little bit. And you see in the that
monthly recap for July that's part of the creative thing
that I get to do that's separate from the show,
but and it gets to be sort of my own thing.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, I want to talk about that in a second
in detail. But I mean Tit and I have known
this forever, like like our theme song says, you know,
he and I have been broadcasting together since ninety six,
and over the course of those years, we've done several
different shows together. But one thing we've always loved is
the concept of having having us and then having a
(13:43):
cast of characters associated with the show. Basically, we just
ripped off Howard Stern's and I think everyone's been ripping
off Howard Stern ever since. So, but it does take
there's a there's a two prong thing there, right. It
takes a pair of posts that are secure enough to
not feel upstaged, because a lot of times those people
(14:06):
that are doing those bit parts actually become more popular
because you're getting them in small, tight, well produced doses.
So it takes a couple of hosts that can keep
their egos in check. But it also takes those other people.
It takes them keeping their ego in check, right, because
(14:27):
it can be tough if you have a live mic
during ras and mocha, Man, is it hard for you
not to just become a third host?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
But you know that's not your role totally. Yeah, And
we've had.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Sorry, I'll let you finish. I'll let you jump in.
I just want to finish the thought Tid and I
and Ted. You remember, over the years, we've had people
a third or fourth in studio with us and they
would complain. They're like, well, I never had time to talk.
You guys didn't let me. And it's like, we're not
going to force feed you lines like it's your job
(15:01):
to find the opportunities on when to interject. Well, I
don't know when, then it ain't gonna work out. No.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
You mentioned that you guys were the Shaq and Kobe,
and I'll use this as a Lakers analogy. Those Lakers
in the early two thousands win obviously because Shaq and
Kobe are great, but they don't win those titles without
Robert Lorry, without their sure, without those other guys Rick Fox, right,
they don't win without those And you mentioned the having
a live mic. There are three other people on the
on the show with outside of Brosmo, including myself, and
(15:35):
those guys trust us to have a live mic. We
get to control our own mics and trust us to
be able to jump in and add to a conversation.
And the one thing that they always tell they told
me from day one, is if you're gonna jump in,
jump in all the way, don't have asset, you know,
pick your spots. We trust us to lead you or
(15:55):
lead the conversation in a certain type of way to
make sure that you shine. And I will also say
they are really good. And I'm sure you guys have
come across this in your years of broadcasting, but a
lot of people are very very keen on having the
last word, right, having the big last having the moment
in whatever the sort of topic of conversation is. And
those guys are like, whatever, whoever has the line or whatever,
(16:18):
it doesn't need to be us. We don't need to
necessarily take the last shot right. As long as we
win or in this case, as long as that segment
or that bit works, well, that's all they care about.
And I think having that mindset, having two people who
can have that mindset is critical to success.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And at the end of the day, it's their name
on the moniker.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Hell yeah, I'm gonna seeing them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Right. Here's my question though, and this is an honest
question that I've had for so many years, why radio,
like what is it that makes somebody say, you know what,
I want to get into radio? There's a TV. Those
people are like megastars, you know what I mean. Like
you've movies, huge stars, and you say to yourself, I
(17:02):
want to be because you said at the beginning of
this you want to be a radio star. So why
what happened? What happened in your life as a child
that pushed you in that direction.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I looked in the mirror and I said, TV not
for you.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Everybody says that. Everybody's like, ah, he's got a face
for you know, radio and a voice for newspaper.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
But I'll tell you the truth matter is is that
there is a certain intimacy to radio that just does
not exist with television. Right we are in people's households,
or in their cars or wherever they listen to us
or however they listen to us every single day. And
radio has now really evolved into really goving into the
podcast podcast world, and the Rozamocha Show podcast is massive, right, like,
(17:46):
especially for a radio show. It's one of the biggest
in North America. And so we do a really really
good job of connecting with our audience there and for me,
it's the intimacy of the audience. Again, we're in there
every single day. There is a I like in us
to bart in this sense. Well, hey, we probably drive
people that want to drink with some of the things
that we say, but also people trust us. People come
(18:10):
in and spill their guts to us and talk about
their life. They want to hear us talk about our lives,
and you know, for the most part, we connect with
them in a way that I just don't think television
allows you to do so. Right, So, even this medium,
podcasting has a level of intimacy that television just does not.
So for me, I was really sort of keen on
(18:32):
building that bridge and building that bond with the audience,
and I'm telling you it is. It is incredible the
things that our audience knows about me. And again I
ain't shit. I My name is not in the marquee.
I am just I'm a Derek Fisher, I'm a Rick Fox, right,
I'm just one of those guys. But the way that
our audience has taken to myself and have embraced me
I've been on the show for in almost ten years now,
(18:54):
has really been incredible. I don't think that happens if
I'm on a TV show.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Hold on, hold on, hold on ten years and you
still ain't got a sniff of the name on that sign.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
A new agent.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I need a new agent. Yeah, I'll tell you something.
I'm okay with it because it's not it was. It's
not mine and I still have goals for me to
build my own thing from you know, from from from
ground zero that like, that's my big thing. I'm happy
to help contribute, but I don't want my name on
this because it wasn't mine for to begin with.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Uh. In fairness, you're not a Rick Fox and you're
not a Robbert Rory. You're a James Harden with Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Oh okay, I'm gonna say you're just all right.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You're just you're just waiting for the next team where
you're dropping thirty five points a night.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
That's the hope, man, that's the hope.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And that's what's good, because dude, you have you have
star factor. And you know, when I want to respond
to what you said about you know, the intimacy of radio, man,
I learned early on in my career, like TV is
so produced, right, like you don't I don't see anyone
on TV just wing it right. I remember working at
(20:05):
Sports Sports Center back when it was still called Sports Desk,
and like every line, even their banter was scripted, you
know what I mean, And it was like it was
so so produced it drove me nuts. And then those guys,
the Gino Rettas, the Darenttitians rest in Peace, the you know,
Teresa Hergertz, Michael landsberg Man, when they got opportunities to
(20:28):
go do radio, they went crazy, like I can say
whatever I want for an hour. And then podcasting became
the bigger extension of that. It's like, now there's no rules, baby,
do whatever you want. And I think one of the
biggest changes and you can tell me if you agree
in the radio world over the last seven to ten years,
(20:49):
is they finally have stopped looking at podcasts as the
ugly step cousin. Now it's like we have to embrace
this part of the industry.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
You will lose as a radio show if you don't
embrace podcasting, you'll just flat out lose, right, like especially
you know posts, especially pre pandemic. Podcast radio listing has
changed since the pandemic, It has really really changed, right,
and radio really relies on that sort of morning tuning
(21:20):
people driving into work, but now people are hybrid or
working completely from home or going into work later. So
radio needed to radio is late. Let's let's be very clear.
It's not like radio has discovered something. Radio is late,
but they needed to embrace podcasting because of those habits.
So it's interesting you mentioned podcasting. The one thing that
(21:42):
our show has always sort of understood, or especially over
the last couple of years, is we are no longer
competing against other radio shows. We are competing for people's
attention in all forms of media, whether it's podcasting, whether
it's Spotify, Apple Music, whatever the case is. We are
competing for your attention. So what can we do? What
can we bring to make you decide when you're in
your vehicle, when you're working out, when you're doing whatever
(22:04):
you're doing, to decide, you know what, I want to
go tune in and listen to five people talk as
opposed to listen to music or watch TV. Right, And yeah,
it has changed, for sure, but it needed to because
if without it, radio would just die.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Tid you wanted to jump in, I don't even remember
what I was going to say. Now, well, then I
can jump in. I can tell you this chem I
don't know. Is Joe Anderson still wandering the halls at
Humber College? Is he still around there?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I don't think so, I'm not. I don't even think
I know Joe Anderson.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
So he was. He was one of the head honchos
at the radio program back when I was there, him
and Robert Holiday and so I love those guys, and
I remember the two of them telling me when I
was in school there, They're like, you know, it's just
a matter of time before AM and FM radio are
(23:04):
a thing of the past. We're moving towards a digital medium.
And at the time, satellite radio hadn't even launched, okay,
and I'm like, get out of here, And you could
see people's faces like, well shit, what am I doing
in school? For radio radio is going away? And people
were just like freaking out. Now you see the emergence
(23:28):
of satellite radio, You see the explosion of the podcast world,
which I don't think anyone could have anticipated what that
would look like. And now we see things like OEMs,
car manufacturers not putting AM radio into vehicles moving forward.
When you see stories like that, as a hardcore radio guy,
(23:51):
does it scare you.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
No, it used to. It definitely used to. I'm thankful
to be on a show that understands that we need
to be progressive in that sense. Right. Yeah, you made
a point about cars not even putting radios anymore into
their vehicles. That's why it's always surprises me that people
actually know our show as a podcast first before a
(24:13):
radio show. We have a large audience that only know
us as a podcast. They don't even know that we
exist on the radio, and that's a good thing for us.
I think, you know, we need to make sure that
we are staying ahead with the times. I don't think
radio is, you know, dying or anything like that, but
much like TV, it's just become digital. Right. TV numbers
are down. If anybody listened to TV or Nielsen numbers,
those numbers are way down. It doesn't mean TV necessarily dying.
(24:35):
I think the way people consume TV and radio is
just changing, right, And I think it's up to those
mediums to make sure that they stay ahead with the times.
It's why social media is so important. Most people would
have no idea what the hell I look like without
social media videos, they wouldn't, right, they have no idea
how many times people think that I'm a white man.
I can't tell you how many times. And for anybody
(24:56):
who's listening, I am not. I am a black man.
The amount of people who show up to community events
and be like, WHOA, I had no idea that you
were a black guy, right, and they'd be stunned, They
literally stunned. So social media and all that stuff is
so critical to what we do. And again, people are
just consuming us in a different way to not just
(25:17):
sitting at home turning the dial trying to find us anymore.
It's different.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I thought Maurice Sherman was a six foot five black guy.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I'm just fucking with you.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Maury Sherman is one of the guys I went to
Hummer College with. I've known that little guy forever. That's
an interesting point you make, though, dude, about you know,
being bigger in the podcast world. And you know what
strikes me about that sentiment. The Roz and Mochas show
is essentially unfirable, right if kiss that fam ever said
(25:49):
one day we're switching formats, we're going all country all
the time or whatever, because we know we've seen crazy
stuff like that happen in the radio world, and they
flip the switch and the Roz and Mocha show is
no longer on Kiss FM. All you do is get
yourself a studio, launch a podcast, and you've got the
exact same people tuning in every single day. Like you're
(26:12):
you're literally unfirable.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Listen, well your lips to God's ears. I hope that's
the case. But you know what, we're also very fortunate,
right there aren't a lot of radio shows who who
are able to sort of say that, who can really
rely on a massive podcast audience to continue their brand.
If you mentioned, you know, radio doesn't work out, but
it's a rarity. But the guys have worked hard to
(26:35):
build that brand and to build that podcast audience. And
I will say, and I want to make this point
because I think it's important. A lot of radio shows
will do podcasts, but they'll do it in a very,
in my opinion, very lazy way, which is just a
simple rip and read. So they'll take the beginning of
their show, let's say it starts six am. They'll take
the end of their show that ends at ten am.
They'll they'll piece it together and then they'll say boom,
(26:57):
now it's a podcast and you know, we are very deliberate.
I'm the person actually in charge of the Rodsmolka podcast,
so took my own horn a little bit, but we're
very deliberate with how we put together our podcast and
we drop an episode every single day. Now, we're very deliberate,
and it's not just as simple here's what we did
at six am. From ten am boom, here you go
and deliberate and that's a that's a strategy for sure,
(27:19):
it's just not one that we found that has worked.
And I think that's really contributed to us being the
podcast that we are today.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I think that's a lot a lot to do with
the fact that radio isn't radio anymore, you know what
I mean, Because there was a time, there was a
time that you know, when when satellite first came out
and everybody in radio is like, oh what is this
we you know, you either had you either were a
satellite listener or you were a regular terrestrial radio listener,
(27:46):
you know, and podcasts was always just sitting back in
the back going we're just mining our own damn business
over here, like hello, right right, you know we've been
we've been around for a minute, but you know, you guys,
keep fighting among yourselves. We're just gonna sit here and
do our thing right. But now it's got to the
point where it's become so easy for a lot of
people to put out, quote quote a podcast. Just because
(28:09):
you put it out there doesn't mean it's good totally.
Like there's a lot of people out there that should
not own a microphone, just like there's a lot of
people out there who should not be on the other
side of the railing inside of a wrestling show. This
happens most transition. Just just step on it. Just step
(28:31):
it's just gonna put you over. That was brilliant. Fucking
step on it, you piece of shit. Sure showing the
fucking radio guy. I don't got a damn thing to
know about business and radio, but I was about to
do some fucking magic up in here, and Donnie's over here,
(28:54):
just like, Hey, wat's this. I'm gonna kick him in
the dick.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Shit was patting you on the back. I thought that
was genius.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Continue please, So it brings me to my point because
Donnie said earlier that you had gone down to try
your luck. It taken a couple of bumps or two
in the ring. How did that go for you first
of all, And what did you think after that first
(29:22):
initial bump? Please tell you.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I'm a big wrestling fan. I have been a wrestling fan.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And got ship to ship.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
You're absolutely right. It is not myself personally. I said
to myself, Holy shit, these guys are big and are fast.
And I've always sort of wondered about the the artistry
of wrestling, right and and and what it takes to
(29:52):
put on a quality, great wrestling match. The appreciation that
I have as a fan of wrestling for what those
men and women do has just gone through the friggin roof.
I'm talking A simple chop to the chest, which I
took quite a few hurt like a bitch. It hurt
(30:12):
like hell, But it was the coolest experience ever that
first bump. Person. The hardest thing was learning how to
just take a bump like that was the That was
the most painful thing for me. I'll take a body slam.
That's that's for anybody listening. I don't actually want to
take a body slam, but I'm just saying that the
actual bumping was the hardest, hardest thing in the world.
(30:34):
But again, my appreciation for what they do and they
make it look so friggin effortless, like nuts, just it's
just crazy, it's crazy, and then jumping off the rope
and all like crazy. So good.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
But here's my question. When you were there, you were
obviously there was a Day one thing you're in, which
there are other Day one ers there as well.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah. So my coworker, Mocha, he was also taking bumps
with me, and he's also a big wrestling fan, and
I think he would probably echo the same sentiment, just
how again you just I feel like people who don't
understand wrestling, or who don't know wrestling, who are complete outsiders.
I think they look at wrestlers and like, oh, just
a bunch of dummies, a bunch of guys just hitting
each other. And I'm in my mind, I'm like, firstly,
(31:16):
you're an idiot. Secondly, you don't know what it takes
to put on this art form that is wrestling. You
don't you have no idea, the interest, the detail that
goes into this. And also to be safe, right, like
imagine like I forget, I forgot, I forget the gentleman
that beating the shit out of us at Jesse see
(31:39):
JESSEV Yeah, shout out to jessev Uh the way that
he would punch me. He was safe and he was careful.
You know what I mean. You don't even think about that.
I think people on the outside don't think about how
important it is to be safe when punching somebody in
the face. And he again was He was a pro
and he was great at it. And I guess, as
a fan of wrestling for the last something years, I
(32:01):
didn't think about that type of stuff. And that's why
I have such an appreciation for what those men and
women do inside that ring. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I wish I filmed it that day, Tid, because when
you asked Shem about that first bump, before he took
his first bump, Chris Chambers was training and he said, okay, guys,
now you're going to learn how to take a bump.
And Chambers was still recovering from his torn pictorial so
he wasn't working. So he had jessev in the ring.
(32:31):
And Jesse, for anyone who doesn't know, is six three
to sixty fast athletic. And Jesse says, all right, Shem, mocha,
I'm going to show you a simple back bump, and
Jesse hits the mat with force and velocity like any
experienced pro wrestler would do. Tid the look Shem's face like,
(32:53):
I'm sorry for the people listening not watching, But Shem's
eyes just they just bugged out of his head, like
you want me to do what?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
It sounded like a car wreck when he hit the mat,
and that was just a simple back bump.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, But here's the thing. It's the most unnatural thing
in the world for you to do, will it we
just throw yourself to the ground. You haven't done that
since you were a child trying to get a fucking
box of cereal at the store, all right, So as
an adult to go and do this, it just seems
completely ridiculous. My favorite part was how you said that,
(33:29):
you know, the thing that hurts the worst is an
open hand slap to the chest, Not the pile driver,
not the body slam, not anything like that. It was
an open hand, little slappy slap to the to the titties,
and you thought that that was the worst thing that
you could experience in professional wrestler. Now, my next question is,
(33:49):
since you've been there that one day and you've taken that,
what how many bumps did you take in that day
less than ten.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
If you might have taken twenty.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, I've been backcent.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Hell no, you think I'm crazy?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
No, boy, and that and that's the difference. And that's
the difference right there between people that do it and civilians,
the ones that you refer to, right, because it does
take a certain sense of stupidity to say to yourself
after that first day, because you got home, you're in
the bath, you're like Yepsen salts Man, that was really tough.
You wake up the next day feeling it right, And
(34:23):
instead of saying to yourself, you know what, I'm gonna
go back there and do it again, you thought to yourself, no,
I'm gonna go to my job. I'm gonna do my
normal everything life, the shit that I was doing before,
because I am not a lunatic.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Thank you, you are a thousand percent right. I was
sore for four or five days, and I'm dead serious.
Or if I was sore and I said to myself,
how do these people do this every single night in
night out tour travel at night and do this? And
I did. I didn't do much right. I didn't. I
didn't I didn't have somebody to jump on me, you know. Uh,
(34:56):
but again, that's why my appreciation for them is so high.
I will never step in a ring again. Are you
kidding me? I'm not stupid.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Hey, you left that day saying you would love to
do it again.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I talked shit for a living now, not stupid job,
just talk some shit?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
It did. I know it's almost thirty years ago, but
can you can you think back to that time you
took that first bump and what, Yeah, knocked myself out, I.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I thought to myself, because I'm I'm I'm six four
at the time, probably like two fifty two sixty, you
know what I mean? Then? Right? And I said to myself,
there's no way, like I knew. I knew from martial
arts and how to fight and how to wrestle and
how to fall right and how to do breakfalls and
all of that kind of stuff. So cool, no problem.
But I was not going into this. There's no way
(35:55):
in hell I was going into this and jobbing out anything.
It was like I was going to show all of
these guys that I knew exactly what the fuck was up.
And the one thing that I forgot to do was
the most important thing, and that's tuck your chin. And
when I came back, you know what I mean, it
was that white flash boom up. You get up and
you're like, oh, I gotta go sit up against the
(36:16):
fucking ropes for a second, right, and everything just the
world starts doing one of these things. But I did
that stupid thing. See, I should have been smart like
you and just gone home and been enough is enough? No, no, no, no.
Twenty six plus years later, and that's why he's a
broken down piece of meat and the stupidest white man
(36:39):
you will ever meet. Chick, you're white, it's when are
you white? On Wednesday? Okay?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Your indigenous ancestors are cursing you from the grave.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, you got that right. Every day they do that.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Okay, So last question about that experience. You've talked about
how it made you appreciate what these guys do every
day since that day when you went into the studio
you bumped around and what have you. Does it change
the way you watched wrestling on TV?
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Oh that's such a good question. You know, No, it
doesn't change. But I find that I'm watching for things
now a little bit differently. Right, So I'm watching when
wrestlers fall, they sort of break their fall. I know
people who are you can't see it, but I can.
I notice when they when they do this, when they
break their fall. I noticed it. Yes, I noticed that.
(37:40):
I noticed the tucking of the chin, right, I notice
even the punches, right. I noticed those things a little
bit more more interesting. But again it doesn't. It's it's
only made me appreciate the wrestling so much more and
just again the artistry and the putting on a match
and just following your instincts. They know, he was saying,
(38:01):
how you know oftentimes you know, he just goes off instinct, right,
He and the other wrestler will go off instinct and
and they may not have a chance to discuss things,
you know, prior to a match. They just sort of
go with it and call it in the ring and
do their thing. And I'm just saying, like, that's that
takes skill. That takes an incredible amount of skill to
think on the fly, to be safe and not hurt
(38:24):
somebody and also entertain people. I mean, come on, that's
that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
It's physical improv is what it is.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Totally. I sit behind a microphone and talk every day
and try to entering people. I use one part of
my creativity. That's it, one part of my brain, and
that's it. Try to make people laughing, people feel good.
Wrestlers do a hell of a lot more and have
to again come across as these larger than life figures.
Entertain be smart, be safe, you know again, just a
(38:54):
different appreciation for what wrestlers do.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So I will that's all bullshit. Actually, it's actually the
easiest thing to do in the world. We just wait
until radio guys and news guys come in and want
to do their stupid little stories. Right. We look like
it's much harder than it actually really is. Just think
about it. Think about it. If it wasn't that easy,
(39:16):
there wouldn't be a bunch of mud shows in every
little backwater town north Kakilaki. This is an actual thing
going on right now, all right, the pot wrestling has
become the podcast worlds of radio.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I'm telling us, sick lift out there, what a callback
to you're the best? Uh So I want to move
on to something else, but I will say this is
the last thing on that subject, which is, as a
member of super Kick Management, I am officially extending the
invitation to you shem anytime you want to come back.
(39:51):
I understand you don't want to get in the ring,
but you'd make a hell of a manager.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I would love that, and talk.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
The only thing the manager has to do is take
a chair shot to the face.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Oh, you might need to take a couple of chair shots.
And the way that you bump as a manager is
different than the way you bump as a wrestler.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Okay, it hurts way less. Listen, I'm sold.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Okay, I am so.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
I would love that. You see, now you got me
thinking that'd be amazing. Yes see August twenty third.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
We'll see you August twenty third at the Great Hall.
Talk to me about these monthly recaps that you do
for the radio show for Kiss. When I do my
big hello intro every week for a guest and I
put my my my four bars of bullshit rhyming together
(40:45):
at the end, I mean, I probably spent an hour
pulling research, figuring out what I want to say about
the person, figuring out what the fuck I'm gonna rhyme
with their name, And you know that's about it. It's
it's usually, on average, about an hour's worth of work.
When I look at what goes into those recaps, and
(41:06):
I just think the research on what stories happened, did
it happen this month or did it happen in the
week the last week of the last month, and the research,
the writing in order to make it rhythmic and melodic
and fit a tune, the filming, the production, the number
of cuts and edits and everything like are you starting
(41:30):
the July recap in April? Like what is going on?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Like how are you doing this?
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Thank you for that question. Firstly, I don't do this
by myself. I get I'm the one that gets a
lot of the praise, but there is a team of
people who film, people who edit, people who help me
produce the song that deserve a ton of credit. So
these started back in January twenty twenty two, and I've
done one every single month since then. So you're talking
about thirty one thirty two months in a row of
(41:58):
recap songs. And I'll never forget it started because that
month a bunch of stuff happened, like Betty White died,
called back to b bar Arthur and whatnot. Betty White
had died, Bob Saget had died. There was a bunch
of stuff that happened that month and I had said
to myself, well, you know, I feel like we should
be doing something with This was a crazy month in
(42:18):
pop culture. So came up with the song and did it,
and you know, it was good. It was you know,
poorly produced, but it was it was fun. It was
kind of something I kind of did on the fly,
last minute. And then there was this need to have
original content on our across our social pages, and as
somebody who has been singing my entire life, I thought, huh,
this might be kind of cool. It might be a
(42:39):
fun challenge. So I did it again the next month
in February and that was again crazy, and then I
did it in March. And for those who want to
go back to March twenty twenty two, that's when Will
Smith slapped the shit out of Chris Rock right, and
that was a massive, massive story, and I said, oh,
you know, I think I've got something in here now.
(42:59):
So I decided to do these monthly. And it's funny
that you ask me if I start these early.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I can't, right, I know, I'm fucking with you, but
of course.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
But you know what I mean. Like, but it's a
great question because people will ask me how long these take.
They'll be like, oh, do you just do it all month?
And I'm like, I can't. I can't. I have to
wait until there's content before I even begin writing, right,
So my first process, My first thought is to figure out, well,
what song am I gonna parody? That's the very first thought.
And then I say and then I say to myself, Okay,
(43:30):
if I'm going to choose this song, can the song
that I choose match the original rhyme scheme? So it's
so important with parodies that you match the original rhyme
scheme of the song, otherwise it's not catchy at all.
And what I do is I just keep track every
single day of something big that's happened in pop culture
in and around the twentieth or so of the month,
I say, all right, let's do a first sort of
(43:51):
rough draft of a song. I give myself about three
days or so to write the full song, and then
I record it in about a day and a half
a half or so. And then I got a guy
named Albert.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Do you write it yourself?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
The writer?
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yeah, all written by me? And then we you know,
and then we we jump into the studio for about
a day and a half two days, we we write
stuff and it's and then we do the same thing
with the video and then in about three you know,
about three days after that outcomes the output. And so
in total it's about ten days of work, I would
say for these recaps from from like literally start to finish.
(44:27):
But the real challenge with these recaps is a I'm
always wanting to try to top the next one. It's
really important to me to take care of these. These
are sort of my baby. But you can't predict what
the hell is going to happen in a month, right,
I'll tell you the one for July. We finished that
on like the twenty sixth, and then I think that
weekend Robert Downey Junior is announced as doctor Doom. How
(44:50):
can you not include that? Right, So you've got to
go ahead and include that. Say, now you have to
do a couple of edits and whatnot. So it's it's
a stressful ten days because once I'm the thing and
I'm I hope nothing else crazy happens, and and but
it's it's it's honestly the most fun that I've had
creatively speaking, uh, since doing media for what almost fifteen
(45:15):
years now.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
What's been your favorite song to parody though?
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Love this question. Eddie Murphy Party all the time my favorite.
In fact, we actually shot it in the studio that
I'm sitting in right now. I had the whole wig
and on and everything. It was. It was. That was
my favorite one to do for sure.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Do you remember what month that was?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I gotta look that up.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
That's gotta be July twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
I think, Okay, I'm gonna go pull that.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
That was fun. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Going back for one second, because the similarity just strikes me.
But I know you're a wrestling fan. I think you
followed WWE.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Mainly, right, yeah, any e w both.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Okay, have you seen Joe Hendry?
Speaker 4 (45:58):
I believe that the.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, because man, his parody songs have turned that kid
into a star, I flat out star.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah that way for a while though, Like you know
what I mean, Like when he was doing ICW stuff.
That was the big thing is when Joe Henry was on,
you were going to get this ridiculously overproduced entrance song
of him, you know, making his way to the ring
and then the entrance along with it. Like he's got
a great brain for stuff. Like that.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Oh my god, he's so smart. Even I heard him
do an interview recently where he talked about his theme song,
and he talked about how when he wrote the theme song,
he studied the science, the neuroscience of how to make
something addictive. So he's like, you know, in the song,
I literally clap my hands and zoom in on that
(46:50):
so that all the monkeys know. Clap your hands now,
you know, and play along. And he's like, I literally
put in the lyrics way your hands back and forth.
Because he's like, it's all about that interactivity. And then
when he does the song parodies like like you're doing
with the monthly recaps, he talks about, I want to
(47:10):
find a catchy song, and then I want to find
the best way possible to roast my opponent, right, And
I saw one. Someone just sent this to me this week,
and I peed myself. It was so good. He was
having a match somewhere. I don't know when this was,
maybe Tid knows. He was working against the former WW
star Elias, and Elias used to do the thing in
(47:32):
the ring where he sang with his guitar and all
that Hendry comes out. First off, Elias is in the
ring talk He's like, ah, this Joe Hendry, he's an
Elias wanna be and blah blah blah. And then all
of a sudden, the music hits and it's like, I
can't remember what the lead up to it was, but
the hook was like, h Hendry took his job, took
(47:56):
his job. Hendrey took his job. I was I was
in tears. I'm like, he kind of did. He took
his spot completely. I was dying. I'm like, this guy
is a genius. You know, he's gonna rocket to the
top of the industry. And dude, I see the exact
same thing with you. You have this creative energy and
(48:18):
you have this firing your belly, which I had when
I was young and good looking, but now I'm an old,
broken down piece of meat. And and you know what, Dude,
I look at this and I go, holy shit, this
guy Sky's the limit. So chev man, I'm so impressed
by everything you're doing.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
I can't tell you how much I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Man.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
That means a lot. Again, these these recaps mean a
lot to me, and I I give a shit about them,
you know what I mean. I never want to have
a throwaway month, you know, the worst. The worst thing
somebody could say to me is, oh that was cool,
But I like last month's better, you know, and sometimes
you get that frontrolls, right, So I again, those words
mean a lot. Thank you man, you got it.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
You gotta appreciate a year like this year too, right,
because we're getting the United States is going into an
election year.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Oh listen, Donald Trump is the gift that keeps on giving, right,
like he begins, Yeah, he is, he really is. But
to your point, I have to be so careful with
what I say about Trump, right because again, like even
in the one that you played, I just mentioned that
he got shot and that was it. There's a lot
(49:25):
more I can say about Trump, but you don't want
to come across as partisan, and then you get the
Trumpers and their anti Trumpers, and then your comment section
is all of a sudden not what you want it
to be, and then it becomes a whole shit show. Right.
So I it's a delicate balance. And again you're right,
if he wins in November, these recaps twenty twenty five
might get real, get a little dicey.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
The craziest thing, and I'm surprised it didn't make it
into your parody this month. The craziest thing he has
said in a long time, and that's a big mountain
of crazy things to say. The crazy, busiest thing I
think he's ever said. He said this past week when
he said in front of an open mic, and no
one can say, oh, it was edited, it was out
(50:09):
of context. In an open mic, he says, I know
that you don't want to get out there and vote,
Just come and vote this one last time. I'm gonna
fix the country and then you never have to vote again.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Crazy, right, But how do you tackle that? What do
you do with that? In song?
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Right?
Speaker 4 (50:30):
Like?
Speaker 6 (50:30):
What?
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Yeah, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
But that is one of the scariest and craziest things
any leader has ever said. I'm going to fix the country.
Guess what I'm gonna be king.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah, yeah, and we're all gonna sit on this side
of the border and with our popcorn and watch the
whole thing go down.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
Yep, all right.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
I picked up this new habitshm, which I just love.
Whenever people you know, just like defiantly post like like
someone like a celebrity or whatever will post like I'm
supporting Harris right, and then you'll see the comments section
it's like Trump twenty twenty four or Trump twenty and
like they don't have anything else to say. That's that's
(51:15):
their comment. So I've now got a copy and paste
hot key on my phone and I'll just respond with
have you read his platform? I'm not being an asshole,
I'm not being derogatory. And you know what, ninety nine
percent of the time they don't have a clue what's
in his platform, And if anyone actually goes and reads it,
(51:38):
it is terrifying. The things that he's talking about making
homelessness illegal, Like if you're homeless, you're gonna get a
chance to be taken to an internment camp, but if
you refuse, you go to jail. This is in his platform.
Or he talks about college credits will no longer be
(51:59):
awarded his students unless they pass a secondary exam confirming
their belief in traditional patriotic values. What the fuck is that?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Well, that the one that gets me is the federal
federal amnesty basically for police officers.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
That's the one.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
That one is wacky and listen, if that's what you
want to do, cool, but then don't be hiring every
seventeen and eighteen year old, fresh out of fresh off
the street. To have that job, there needs to be
a lot more strangility. Right, It's crazy, it's it's wacky stuff.
(52:41):
It's wacky stuff, and I think that a lot of
it is just to you know, he's a monkey throwing
shit up against the wall, right, And I literally said
to him, and you're just eating it up.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
I literally said to a friend of mine this week,
I said, look, if you support Trump, you're not being
a conservative. You're a fascist, bordering on communists. What are
you talking about? And I'm like, read his platform. Just
read the platform, okay, Like instead of just saying he's
a good businessman and he's gonna run the country like
(53:12):
one of his businesses, which is always the shit that
they trumpet, just go read his platform because it is terrifying.
And then if you still want to vote for him, cool,
go ahead. But if you do, I have a feeling
your comprehension skills are very low.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
But I also think people vote for individuals as opposed
to their interests nowadays, right, I mean, you don't.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Know, in Canada, maybe not in the US. Man they're
so are the.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Affiliated well, because there's a thing. Here's the thing that
you have to remember. And you might think that like
IQ's might be low and whatever, and you might be
talking about like, oh, they're the troglodytes of the earth
that would vote for him and stuff like that. That's
not always the case because you got to remember the
Republicans also represent a very, very very big part of
the other country, and that's the extremely well and the
(54:00):
tax breaks they go along with it. So you're talking
a very big sect of people with influence and money,
and the Democrats are no different. Listen, it's all a
gigantic shit show one way or the other. It's just
a matter of how we digested ourselves and how we
decide to, you know, take that take all of that
information and spew it out there on social media for
(54:22):
everybody else.
Speaker 4 (54:25):
I mean, you hit the nail on the head. You're
absolutely right. It's it's it's all. It's all scary. I'm
glad we're on this side of the border. Don't get
me wrong. We got a lot of you know, our
own to take care of. But I am also glad
that we're on this side because America is I feel
like we're in the middle of watching the series finale
of America sometimes, you know what I mean, like that
that that's that's kind of how it feels.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Let's all remember, let's all remember how that country started, right,
let's all remember how that country started. You were there,
tell us, I wasn't. I mean, I saw the rerun.
You know, there's a gigantic tea party. We were sick
and tired of you telling us what to do, So
we're going to go to war with you to have
our own way. I mean, they've done it before. They
(55:12):
went to war with themselves. The last time a war
was fought on North American soil in the United States
was against themselves in the Civil War. Like, they're not
afraid to do this, you know what I mean. Let's
just hope that it doesn't come down to that, and
cooler heads prevail and democracy, true democracy, not a bunch
of fabricated bullshit, ends up taking place for everybody across
(55:34):
the world.
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Speaker 4 (56:39):
Appreciate that. I got a big ass head, so thank you.
Speaker 3 (56:43):
Hey, Listen, if people want to get in touch with you,
if they want to pay attention to the monthly recaps,
if they want to find out more, where do they go?
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (56:49):
Easy, Just across all socials at sham at sh e M.
That's the best way to get ahold of me. And
I'm really good at answering DM, so yeah, hit me
up anytime.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
That's not true. You're not that good at answering.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Yeah, why Yeah, it sounds like you would be with
all of that free time that you have on your hands.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
Listen, I want to do this again sometime. Okay, we're
gonna have you on again. And when we do, I
want to check out those pipes. I want to hear
that that church choir voice of yours, and I want
to hear you belt something.
Speaker 4 (57:21):
Out, dude, Deil. I'll have a song ready to go
for you. How about that?
Speaker 3 (57:24):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
I will have a little jingle ready to go for you.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
Guys, give it up to Shem everybody. That was fun.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
That was amazing.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Absolutely, I like him.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
He's a talented He's a talented dude. We'll be able
to say we talked to him before he blew up
like Drake.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
Did Drake blow up?
Speaker 3 (57:52):
We can only dream.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
I mean, I know that's what Kendrick Lamar would have
in mind.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Ted final thoughts, shit, you want to plug?
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Yeah? Touch chin oh? Now, as always, you know what,
it's always a blast. You can see it there at
Notorious tid on all of my socials, all of the
stuff out there, as well as the Law live audio
wrestling over on YouTube. Go check that out. New content
stuff going up all the time, a lot of MMA talk,
(58:20):
a lot of boxing talk, a lot of wrestling talk,
and a lot of shit talk. First and foremost. If
you think that this is one thing, man who stuff
gets a little crazy over there, so please, you know,
check it out. And outside of that, it's been too long.
Let's not make it so long next time. Donnie sounds
good to me, don't forget. You can check me out
(58:41):
on Instagram at Donnie dot da Silva. Don't look for
me on Twitter, don't look for me on Facebook. You're
not gonna find me. But you can find me on Instagram.
That's the place to hit me up. Or you can
find us at Godfathers of Podcasting, also on Instagram. Those
are your two best bets. And thank you so much
to everyone for checking out the episode. Thanks to Sheam.
(59:01):
We'll see you next time.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
But this ship I'm mount, But this ship I'm mount.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
No thanks, don't mummy, I'm gonna just grab myself and
lease excuse me. Please, but this shit, I'm mout no,
but this shit I'm mouth all right.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
Then, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
What the butcher's happened, but I don't really care. I'm
gonna get the fucker Patty here
Welcome the Godfathers and podcasting.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
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Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now here are your host You guys.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Have been broadcasting online? Say god Fathers is podcasting himself.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Donnie de Silva and christid Well.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yes, yes, yes, I'm Donnie da Silva. That is my
partner Trus t I d Chris did Well. We are back.
You know, we've been off for a couple of weeks
because you know, summer things.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
But we're back.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So you know, if you're unsatisfied with the service we provided,
feel free to email me and we'll send you a
full refund.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what we'll do.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Let me let me let me set it up properly, ladies,
and Gentvien. He is the peanut butter to my chocolate.
He's the Kobe to my shack. He's the Estelagetti to
my b Arthur. That is the infamous Chris Tidwell.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Wow, those are some mighty big shoes to fill, Like.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
B Arthur's shoes were like size twelve. They had to
have been at least right, Yeah, that was a big lead.
I think they were bigger than that. Somebody got to
do some research on that. I bet you b Arthur
had a bigger foot than a twelve. What's your shoe size?
I don't even know. Thirteen extra fat, You're only a
thirteen at your height.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I thought you'd be a bigger shoe. Yeah, but it's like,
it's not that, that's not the issue. It's the I
gotta get like that triple E thing.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh you got the fat foot, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Those super wide flo and stone I can stop a
car feet yeah yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
The kind of beats the sides.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's why you just wear those like strap on sandals
whenever you can. Right, No, No, I've worked my way
up to slides.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It'll never be crocs. That is just the stupid That's
the dumbest thing.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
In the world. I have to tell you. I'm fine
with people wearing slides, especially this time of year. But
the people that wear the Jesus sandals, like those birken Stocks,
I don't know what it is. Bro Ever said, birken
Stocks and like fong sandals, both of them, the ones
that go between the toe that, Oh my god, those
are the weirdest shoe designs ever to me.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay, first of all, feet are gross. Yeah, they're disgusting.
And let alone having something like stuck between your toes
like that, forget about it. That's disgusting. And the other
thing with the other sandals, the reason you hate those
is because you don't like hippies, Donnie, Is that why?
That's what it is? Yeah, you don't like hippies.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I would have been really angry if I was old
enough to be at what stock. I would have just
been like, can you all put on some fucking vans?
You know, Like I don't know if they had vans
back then, Michael J. Fox some converse. I don't know.
Some Chuck Taylor's up in this house.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Dude, Oh a little saw the videos of how muddy
it was going on over there. But I don't think
some Chuck Taylors would have been a good idea.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
All the more reason now you got mud feet? Who
wants mud feet? While you're listening to Jimmy Hendrix man,
at least then you don't got to look at the feet.
Oh god, it's so gross. Mud feet.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Would you ever? Would you? Would you ever do one
of those foot fetish things?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
What what are you talking about? In one of those guys,
It's like stuck a toe in your mouth. Listen, don't
tell everybody what you and I do.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
On the weekend.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I did share a story, well we could. I'll tell
you this quickly and then we'll get to our featured guest.
Last weekend, I was I had the opportunity at a
super Kick Pro Wrestling show to spend a little bit
of time with two people who I really really like
and I know you like them too, Alex Shelley and
Chris Saban the MotorCity Machine Guns. And we were just,
(04:23):
you know, shooting the breeze, exchanging stories, and somehow, I
don't know how his name came up. We started talking
about Tony Atlas and I told Sabin this story about
one time when I was at a show in Milton,
Ontario for this Mark promoter that ended up ripping everybody off.
(04:46):
And I'm there with Tony and I'm changing in the back.
I'm putting on, you know, nice clothes because I'm going
to do the announcing and all this. I'm putting on
nice clothes I'm changing out of running shoes putting on
dress shoes, and I take off my socks, and Tony
Atlas looks at me. You got some nice feet? Because
(05:07):
Tony has a bit of a foot obsession, and apparently
he doesn't care who they're attached to.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You know, you say he doesn't care who they're attached to.
I'm telling you that he probably thinks you got some
sexy lady feet. I might.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I do think that. For a giant man, I have
pretty feet.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Like like like Britney grinder feet, but like you got
some sex lady feet.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
This is gross. I hate this whole conversation. That's what's happened, dude.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
One day, I'll tell you the story about how when
I first introduced him to WWE referee Adrian Butler. Okay,
oh yeah, and he liked Adrian's pretty feet. Oh, he
liked more than just his feet. Boy, Tony fell in
line and ribbed this kid so hard.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's the best. I feel like I heard this story
a million years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It's the best.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, If I can pull it together
and be a quase professional, it is time right now
for the big hello, and this week's guest is a
man that I met just a few months ago. You know,
it's that old timeless tale of your buddy who also
works in media. Shout out to Jeffer Holman who calls
(06:21):
you up and says, Hey, my pals at Kiss FM
they want to learn how to wrestle and they want
to film it for Instagram. Do you know anywhere they
could go and do that? And I said do, I,
of course I do.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Let me introduce you.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
To my friends at Superkicked Pro in Toronto. So this gentleman,
where's he at?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Is he here?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, let's bring him in.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
This gentleman right here. He showed up a log with
one half of the famed Roz and Mocha morning show,
and they decided to learn the basics of pro wrestling.
And to say I was impressed by this man's tenacity,
ability to absorb pain and just sheer determination would be
an understatement when he's not falling down inside of a ring.
(07:07):
He works daily as the executive producer of the aforementioned
Rosin Mocha show. But let's be honest, he ain't your
typical producer, y'all. This dude's got main character energy, He
shows his comedic chops regularly, both on radio and socials.
His monthly recap tunes are a delight. Let's check out July.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Yes back with another kiss recap.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
First, I'm gonna set a big rest in piece of
Shannon Doorny, Richard Simmons and Bob Newhart. All Right, here
we go, new movie Dead Loverine, Toronto.
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Oh By, but there could win big at the Emmy's
Donald Trump's shooting by scary stuff oh By not like
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Sebo strike of him determined the best Go Canada EuroCup
There was one by Spain Man Copa America Love Island
season was drama and mandam drapa album ingrid andres anthem Disasta,
(08:19):
Rick Ross had beat in Vancouver.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Robert Downey Junior's back, he is Doctor Dum. Microsoft shut
down the place with the movie.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Look good Bye. Didn't out enter kamelap By, didn't out
enter comelap By, didn't out enter Kamala By did out
enter Kamala Hello Kitty not a cat's mister beast O
Why new music Kady Perry and this month July.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I don't know what's wrong with you, young people.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Do you think you just fell.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Out of a coconut tree?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And in addition to all of that, you've seen him
in the past as a contributor on breakfast Television, and
he's an instructor at my alma mater, Humber College Gohawks,
and he even leads his church's choir group.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Good love.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This man have too many job ladies and gentlemen. If
he ever tries stand up, he'll be a problem. He's
got that street cred but plays the system. Everybody done no,
ask demandem everybody done no from here to Bethlehem. Follow
his ig for the monthly post. Mordem. But that bark
and bow those are hominem's. Yeah, that line was whack,
(09:36):
but I'm not eminem. Now give it up to mister Parkinson,
first named shem Bro.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I don't even know what to say. That is an introduction.
Let me tell you I need to save that. Just
play that every time I walk into the office. Thank
you as a reminder.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
As a reminder, this ain't how you wrap That's what
you need to do. Hey, I'm telling you straight up listen.
I'm telling Donnie, I think that that last rap of
yours might have given me Parkinson's all right, I.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Never called it rap. It is just creative poetry, that's
all it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Is, Okay, all right, not that slam poetry though, right, No,
not quite.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I don't have this treet cred to pull off slam poetry.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Sham.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
What up?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Man?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Hey man? How are you getting man?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
We're doing well. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You guys.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
We've been trying to put this together for a minute now,
and I'm glad that you I'm glad that you have time, dude,
because listen, here's the thing. Like I said in the intro,
you and I had a chance to meet a few
months back, and like, I knew that you were coming
into the show, and I don't I'll be honest with you.
I don't listen to the Ras and Mocha show a
lot these days, but when I do, when I do listen,
(10:53):
I love the show. But when you came in and
I met you that day, I was like, this dude
is like he's got star power, energy, and here you are.
You're the executive producer of the show. First and foremost.
Talk to me about that talk to me about that role.
(11:14):
I know that you went to the same school as me,
Humber College. You graduate from their radio broadcasting program, although
you and I are not in the same class. We're
about fifty years apart. But yeah, when you have some
when you when you went to school, was your thought,
(11:35):
I want to be in production or were you thinking
I'm an on air star.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
That's a great question. So actually got to go back
even further. I actually went to Ryerson or now known
as Toronto Metropolitan University, and I did law. So my
degree is actually in law. And I guess I must
have decided, who needs money, Let's get into media. And
so I went to Humber for a year and I
did I did radio broadcasting course there now and no,
(12:02):
you know what, I actually wanted to be a radio star.
I wanted I had my own show for a little while,
was doing overnights for a bit, did the evenings, which
is typically sort of how you start out in radio. Anyways,
you don't you don't get to just jump to the
morning show unfortunately, and then four years into that gig,
there was an opportunity to produce on the Rozmoka Show.
I kind of felt like my on air sort of
pathway had been stagnant quite honestly, and I just decided,
(12:24):
you know what, let's let's shake things up a little
bit and do producing. And I got to say, at first,
I was like, oh man, I'm gonna be buried. I'm
gonna behind the scenes. Who the hell's going to notice me?
Who's going to see me? And being on this show
has given me a platform, I would say, even bigger
and greater than doing my own show has, you know,
and and I and again not to sort of blow
(12:46):
smoke up their ask so they don't need it, but
Rozumoka had been incredibly selfless in allowing myself as one
of their producers, to shine, right Like they they understand that,
you know, if I shine, and the other producers shine
and the people on the show shine, it only enhances
their brand. Right. So they've been incredibly selfless in terms
(13:07):
of allowing me to you know, grow and spread my
wings a little bit. And you see in the that
monthly recap for July that's part of the creative thing
that I get to do that's separate from the show,
but and it gets to be sort of my own thing.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, I want to talk about that in a second
in detail. But I mean Tit and I have known
this forever, like like our theme song says, you know,
he and I have been broadcasting together since ninety six,
and over the course of those years, we've done several
different shows together. But one thing we've always loved is
the concept of having having us and then having a
(13:43):
cast of characters associated with the show. Basically, we just
ripped off Howard Stern's and I think everyone's been ripping
off Howard Stern ever since. So, but it does take
there's a there's a two prong thing there, right. It
takes a pair of posts that are secure enough to
not feel upstaged, because a lot of times those people
(14:06):
that are doing those bit parts actually become more popular
because you're getting them in small, tight, well produced doses.
So it takes a couple of hosts that can keep
their egos in check. But it also takes those other people.
It takes them keeping their ego in check, right, because
(14:27):
it can be tough if you have a live mic
during ras and mocha, Man, is it hard for you
not to just become a third host?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
But you know that's not your role totally. Yeah, And
we've had.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Sorry, I'll let you finish. I'll let you jump in.
I just want to finish the thought Tid and I
and Ted. You remember, over the years, we've had people
a third or fourth in studio with us and they
would complain. They're like, well, I never had time to talk.
You guys didn't let me. And it's like, we're not
going to force feed you lines like it's your job
(15:01):
to find the opportunities on when to interject. Well, I
don't know when, then it ain't gonna work out. No.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
You mentioned that you guys were the Shaq and Kobe,
and I'll use this as a Lakers analogy. Those Lakers
in the early two thousands win obviously because Shaq and
Kobe are great, but they don't win those titles without
Robert Lorry, without their sure, without those other guys Rick Fox, right,
they don't win without those And you mentioned the having
a live mic. There are three other people on the
on the show with outside of Brosmo, including myself, and
(15:35):
those guys trust us to have a live mic. We
get to control our own mics and trust us to
be able to jump in and add to a conversation.
And the one thing that they always tell they told
me from day one, is if you're gonna jump in,
jump in all the way, don't have asset, you know,
pick your spots. We trust us to lead you or
(15:55):
lead the conversation in a certain type of way to
make sure that you shine. And I will also say
they are really good. And I'm sure you guys have
come across this in your years of broadcasting, but a
lot of people are very very keen on having the
last word, right, having the big last having the moment
in whatever the sort of topic of conversation is. And
those guys are like, whatever, whoever has the line or whatever,
(16:18):
it doesn't need to be us. We don't need to
necessarily take the last shot right. As long as we
win or in this case, as long as that segment
or that bit works, well, that's all they care about.
And I think having that mindset, having two people who
can have that mindset is critical to success.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And at the end of the day, it's their name
on the moniker.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Hell yeah, I'm gonna seeing them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Right. Here's my question though, and this is an honest
question that I've had for so many years, why radio,
like what is it that makes somebody say, you know what,
I want to get into radio? There's a TV. Those
people are like megastars, you know what I mean. Like
you've movies, huge stars, and you say to yourself, I
(17:02):
want to be because you said at the beginning of
this you want to be a radio star. So why
what happened? What happened in your life as a child
that pushed you in that direction.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I looked in the mirror and I said, TV not
for you.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Everybody says that. Everybody's like, ah, he's got a face
for you know, radio and a voice for newspaper.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
But I'll tell you the truth matter is is that
there is a certain intimacy to radio that just does
not exist with television. Right we are in people's households,
or in their cars or wherever they listen to us
or however they listen to us every single day. And
radio has now really evolved into really goving into the
podcast podcast world, and the Rozamocha Show podcast is massive, right, like,
(17:46):
especially for a radio show. It's one of the biggest
in North America. And so we do a really really
good job of connecting with our audience there and for me,
it's the intimacy of the audience. Again, we're in there
every single day. There is a I like in us
to bart in this sense. Well, hey, we probably drive
people that want to drink with some of the things
that we say, but also people trust us. People come
(18:10):
in and spill their guts to us and talk about
their life. They want to hear us talk about our lives,
and you know, for the most part, we connect with
them in a way that I just don't think television
allows you to do so. Right, So, even this medium,
podcasting has a level of intimacy that television just does not.
So for me, I was really sort of keen on
(18:32):
building that bridge and building that bond with the audience,
and I'm telling you it is. It is incredible the
things that our audience knows about me. And again I
ain't shit. I My name is not in the marquee.
I am just I'm a Derek Fisher, I'm a Rick Fox, right,
I'm just one of those guys. But the way that
our audience has taken to myself and have embraced me
I've been on the show for in almost ten years now,
(18:54):
has really been incredible. I don't think that happens if
I'm on a TV show.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Hold on, hold on, hold on ten years and you
still ain't got a sniff of the name on that sign.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
A new agent.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I need a new agent. Yeah, I'll tell you something.
I'm okay with it because it's not it was. It's
not mine and I still have goals for me to
build my own thing from you know, from from from
ground zero that like, that's my big thing. I'm happy
to help contribute, but I don't want my name on
this because it wasn't mine for to begin with.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Uh. In fairness, you're not a Rick Fox and you're
not a Robbert Rory. You're a James Harden with Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Oh okay, I'm gonna say you're just all right.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You're just you're just waiting for the next team where
you're dropping thirty five points a night.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
That's the hope, man, that's the hope.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And that's what's good, because dude, you have you have
star factor. And you know, when I want to respond
to what you said about you know, the intimacy of radio, man,
I learned early on in my career, like TV is
so produced, right, like you don't I don't see anyone
on TV just wing it right. I remember working at
(20:05):
Sports Sports Center back when it was still called Sports Desk,
and like every line, even their banter was scripted, you
know what I mean, And it was like it was
so so produced it drove me nuts. And then those guys,
the Gino Rettas, the Darenttitians rest in Peace, the you know,
Teresa Hergertz, Michael landsberg Man, when they got opportunities to
(20:28):
go do radio, they went crazy, like I can say
whatever I want for an hour. And then podcasting became
the bigger extension of that. It's like, now there's no rules, baby,
do whatever you want. And I think one of the
biggest changes and you can tell me if you agree
in the radio world over the last seven to ten years,
(20:49):
is they finally have stopped looking at podcasts as the
ugly step cousin. Now it's like we have to embrace
this part of the industry.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
You will lose as a radio show if you don't
embrace podcasting, you'll just flat out lose, right, like especially
you know posts, especially pre pandemic. Podcast radio listing has
changed since the pandemic, It has really really changed, right,
and radio really relies on that sort of morning tuning
(21:20):
people driving into work, but now people are hybrid or
working completely from home or going into work later. So
radio needed to radio is late. Let's let's be very clear.
It's not like radio has discovered something. Radio is late,
but they needed to embrace podcasting because of those habits.
So it's interesting you mentioned podcasting. The one thing that
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our show has always sort of understood, or especially over
the last couple of years, is we are no longer
competing against other radio shows. We are competing for people's
attention in all forms of media, whether it's podcasting, whether
it's Spotify, Apple Music, whatever the case is. We are
competing for your attention. So what can we do? What
can we bring to make you decide when you're in
your vehicle, when you're working out, when you're doing whatever
(22:04):
you're doing, to decide, you know what, I want to
go tune in and listen to five people talk as
opposed to listen to music or watch TV. Right, And yeah,
it has changed, for sure, but it needed to because
if without it, radio would just die.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Tid you wanted to jump in, I don't even remember
what I was going to say. Now, well, then I
can jump in. I can tell you this chem I
don't know. Is Joe Anderson still wandering the halls at
Humber College? Is he still around there?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I don't think so, I'm not. I don't even think
I know Joe Anderson.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
So he was. He was one of the head honchos
at the radio program back when I was there, him
and Robert Holiday and so I love those guys, and
I remember the two of them telling me when I
was in school there, They're like, you know, it's just
a matter of time before AM and FM radio are
(23:04):
a thing of the past. We're moving towards a digital medium.
And at the time, satellite radio hadn't even launched, okay,
and I'm like, get out of here, And you could
see people's faces like, well shit, what am I doing
in school? For radio radio is going away? And people
were just like freaking out. Now you see the emergence
(23:28):
of satellite radio, You see the explosion of the podcast world,
which I don't think anyone could have anticipated what that
would look like. And now we see things like OEMs,
car manufacturers not putting AM radio into vehicles moving forward.
When you see stories like that, as a hardcore radio guy,
(23:51):
does it scare you.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
No, it used to. It definitely used to. I'm thankful
to be on a show that understands that we need
to be progressive in that sense. Right. Yeah, you made
a point about cars not even putting radios anymore into
their vehicles. That's why it's always surprises me that people
actually know our show as a podcast first before a
(24:13):
radio show. We have a large audience that only know
us as a podcast. They don't even know that we
exist on the radio, and that's a good thing for us.
I think, you know, we need to make sure that
we are staying ahead with the times. I don't think
radio is, you know, dying or anything like that, but
much like TV, it's just become digital. Right. TV numbers
are down. If anybody listened to TV or Nielsen numbers,
those numbers are way down. It doesn't mean TV necessarily dying.
(24:35):
I think the way people consume TV and radio is
just changing, right, And I think it's up to those
mediums to make sure that they stay ahead with the times.
It's why social media is so important. Most people would
have no idea what the hell I look like without
social media videos, they wouldn't, right, they have no idea
how many times people think that I'm a white man.
I can't tell you how many times. And for anybody
(24:56):
who's listening, I am not. I am a black man.
The amount of people who show up to community events
and be like, WHOA, I had no idea that you
were a black guy, right, and they'd be stunned, They
literally stunned. So social media and all that stuff is
so critical to what we do. And again, people are
just consuming us in a different way to not just
(25:17):
sitting at home turning the dial trying to find us anymore.
It's different.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I thought Maurice Sherman was a six foot five black guy.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I'm just fucking with you.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Maury Sherman is one of the guys I went to
Hummer College with. I've known that little guy forever. That's
an interesting point you make, though, dude, about you know,
being bigger in the podcast world. And you know what
strikes me about that sentiment. The Roz and Mochas show
is essentially unfirable, right if kiss that fam ever said
(25:49):
one day we're switching formats, we're going all country all
the time or whatever, because we know we've seen crazy
stuff like that happen in the radio world, and they
flip the switch and the Roz and Mocha show is
no longer on Kiss FM. All you do is get
yourself a studio, launch a podcast, and you've got the
exact same people tuning in every single day. Like you're
(26:12):
you're literally unfirable.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Listen, well your lips to God's ears. I hope that's
the case. But you know what, we're also very fortunate,
right there aren't a lot of radio shows who who
are able to sort of say that, who can really
rely on a massive podcast audience to continue their brand.
If you mentioned, you know, radio doesn't work out, but
it's a rarity. But the guys have worked hard to
(26:35):
build that brand and to build that podcast audience. And
I will say, and I want to make this point
because I think it's important. A lot of radio shows
will do podcasts, but they'll do it in a very,
in my opinion, very lazy way, which is just a
simple rip and read. So they'll take the beginning of
their show, let's say it starts six am. They'll take
the end of their show that ends at ten am.
They'll they'll piece it together and then they'll say boom,
(26:57):
now it's a podcast and you know, we are very deliberate.
I'm the person actually in charge of the Rodsmolka podcast,
so took my own horn a little bit, but we're
very deliberate with how we put together our podcast and
we drop an episode every single day. Now, we're very deliberate,
and it's not just as simple here's what we did
at six am. From ten am boom, here you go
and deliberate and that's a that's a strategy for sure,
(27:19):
it's just not one that we found that has worked.
And I think that's really contributed to us being the
podcast that we are today.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I think that's a lot a lot to do with
the fact that radio isn't radio anymore, you know what
I mean, Because there was a time, there was a
time that you know, when when satellite first came out
and everybody in radio is like, oh what is this
we you know, you either had you either were a
satellite listener or you were a regular terrestrial radio listener,
(27:46):
you know, and podcasts was always just sitting back in
the back going we're just mining our own damn business
over here, like hello, right right, you know we've been
we've been around for a minute, but you know, you guys,
keep fighting among yourselves. We're just gonna sit here and
do our thing right. But now it's got to the
point where it's become so easy for a lot of
people to put out, quote quote a podcast. Just because
(28:09):
you put it out there doesn't mean it's good totally.
Like there's a lot of people out there that should
not own a microphone, just like there's a lot of
people out there who should not be on the other
side of the railing inside of a wrestling show. This
happens most transition. Just just step on it. Just step
(28:31):
it's just gonna put you over. That was brilliant. Fucking
step on it, you piece of shit. Sure showing the
fucking radio guy. I don't got a damn thing to
know about business and radio, but I was about to
do some fucking magic up in here, and Donnie's over here,
(28:54):
just like, Hey, wat's this. I'm gonna kick him in
the dick.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Shit was patting you on the back. I thought that
was genius.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Continue please, So it brings me to my point because
Donnie said earlier that you had gone down to try
your luck. It taken a couple of bumps or two
in the ring. How did that go for you first
of all, And what did you think after that first
(29:22):
initial bump? Please tell you.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I'm a big wrestling fan. I have been a wrestling fan.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And got ship to ship.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
You're absolutely right. It is not myself personally. I said
to myself, Holy shit, these guys are big and are fast.
And I've always sort of wondered about the the artistry
of wrestling, right and and and what it takes to
(29:52):
put on a quality, great wrestling match. The appreciation that
I have as a fan of wrestling for what those
men and women do has just gone through the friggin roof.
I'm talking A simple chop to the chest, which I
took quite a few hurt like a bitch. It hurt
(30:12):
like hell, But it was the coolest experience ever that
first bump. Person. The hardest thing was learning how to
just take a bump like that was the That was
the most painful thing for me. I'll take a body slam.
That's that's for anybody listening. I don't actually want to
take a body slam, but I'm just saying that the
actual bumping was the hardest, hardest thing in the world.
(30:34):
But again, my appreciation for what they do and they
make it look so friggin effortless, like nuts, just it's
just crazy, it's crazy, and then jumping off the rope
and all like crazy. So good.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
But here's my question. When you were there, you were
obviously there was a Day one thing you're in, which
there are other Day one ers there as well.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah. So my coworker, Mocha, he was also taking bumps
with me, and he's also a big wrestling fan, and
I think he would probably echo the same sentiment, just
how again you just I feel like people who don't
understand wrestling, or who don't know wrestling, who are complete outsiders.
I think they look at wrestlers and like, oh, just
a bunch of dummies, a bunch of guys just hitting
each other. And I'm in my mind, I'm like, firstly,
(31:16):
you're an idiot. Secondly, you don't know what it takes
to put on this art form that is wrestling. You
don't you have no idea, the interest, the detail that
goes into this. And also to be safe, right, like
imagine like I forget, I forgot, I forget the gentleman
that beating the shit out of us at Jesse see
(31:39):
JESSEV Yeah, shout out to jessev Uh the way that
he would punch me. He was safe and he was careful.
You know what I mean. You don't even think about that.
I think people on the outside don't think about how
important it is to be safe when punching somebody in
the face. And he again was He was a pro
and he was great at it. And I guess, as
a fan of wrestling for the last something years, I
(32:01):
didn't think about that type of stuff. And that's why
I have such an appreciation for what those men and
women do inside that ring. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I wish I filmed it that day, Tid, because when
you asked Shem about that first bump, before he took
his first bump, Chris Chambers was training and he said, okay, guys,
now you're going to learn how to take a bump.
And Chambers was still recovering from his torn pictorial so
he wasn't working. So he had jessev in the ring.
(32:31):
And Jesse, for anyone who doesn't know, is six three
to sixty fast athletic. And Jesse says, all right, Shem, mocha,
I'm going to show you a simple back bump, and
Jesse hits the mat with force and velocity like any
experienced pro wrestler would do. Tid the look Shem's face like,
(32:53):
I'm sorry for the people listening not watching, But Shem's
eyes just they just bugged out of his head, like
you want me to do what?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
It sounded like a car wreck when he hit the mat,
and that was just a simple back bump.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, But here's the thing. It's the most unnatural thing
in the world for you to do, will it we
just throw yourself to the ground. You haven't done that
since you were a child trying to get a fucking
box of cereal at the store, all right, So as
an adult to go and do this, it just seems
completely ridiculous. My favorite part was how you said that,
(33:29):
you know, the thing that hurts the worst is an
open hand slap to the chest, Not the pile driver,
not the body slam, not anything like that. It was
an open hand, little slappy slap to the to the titties,
and you thought that that was the worst thing that
you could experience in professional wrestler. Now, my next question is,
(33:49):
since you've been there that one day and you've taken that,
what how many bumps did you take in that day
less than ten.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
If you might have taken twenty.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, I've been backcent.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Hell no, you think I'm crazy?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
No, boy, and that and that's the difference. And that's
the difference right there between people that do it and civilians,
the ones that you refer to, right, because it does
take a certain sense of stupidity to say to yourself
after that first day, because you got home, you're in
the bath, you're like Yepsen salts Man, that was really tough.
You wake up the next day feeling it right, And
(34:23):
instead of saying to yourself, you know what, I'm gonna
go back there and do it again, you thought to yourself, no,
I'm gonna go to my job. I'm gonna do my
normal everything life, the shit that I was doing before,
because I am not a lunatic.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Thank you, you are a thousand percent right. I was
sore for four or five days, and I'm dead serious.
Or if I was sore and I said to myself,
how do these people do this every single night in
night out tour travel at night and do this? And
I did. I didn't do much right. I didn't. I
didn't I didn't have somebody to jump on me, you know. Uh,
(34:56):
but again, that's why my appreciation for them is so high.
I will never step in a ring again. Are you
kidding me? I'm not stupid.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Hey, you left that day saying you would love to
do it again.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I talked shit for a living now, not stupid job,
just talk some shit?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
It did. I know it's almost thirty years ago, but
can you can you think back to that time you
took that first bump and what, Yeah, knocked myself out, I.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I thought to myself, because I'm I'm I'm six four
at the time, probably like two fifty two sixty, you
know what I mean? Then? Right? And I said to myself,
there's no way, like I knew. I knew from martial
arts and how to fight and how to wrestle and
how to fall right and how to do breakfalls and
all of that kind of stuff. So cool, no problem.
But I was not going into this. There's no way
(35:55):
in hell I was going into this and jobbing out anything.
It was like I was going to show all of
these guys that I knew exactly what the fuck was up.
And the one thing that I forgot to do was
the most important thing, and that's tuck your chin. And
when I came back, you know what I mean, it
was that white flash boom up. You get up and
you're like, oh, I gotta go sit up against the
(36:16):
fucking ropes for a second, right, and everything just the
world starts doing one of these things. But I did
that stupid thing. See, I should have been smart like
you and just gone home and been enough is enough? No, no, no, no.
Twenty six plus years later, and that's why he's a
broken down piece of meat and the stupidest white man
(36:39):
you will ever meet. Chick, you're white, it's when are
you white? On Wednesday? Okay?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Your indigenous ancestors are cursing you from the grave.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, you got that right. Every day they do that.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Okay, So last question about that experience. You've talked about
how it made you appreciate what these guys do every
day since that day when you went into the studio
you bumped around and what have you. Does it change
the way you watched wrestling on TV?
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Oh that's such a good question. You know, No, it
doesn't change. But I find that I'm watching for things
now a little bit differently. Right, So I'm watching when
wrestlers fall, they sort of break their fall. I know
people who are you can't see it, but I can.
I notice when they when they do this, when they
break their fall. I noticed it. Yes, I noticed that.
(37:40):
I noticed the tucking of the chin, right, I notice
even the punches, right. I noticed those things a little
bit more more interesting. But again it doesn't. It's it's
only made me appreciate the wrestling so much more and
just again the artistry and the putting on a match
and just following your instincts. They know, he was saying,
(38:01):
how you know oftentimes you know, he just goes off instinct, right,
He and the other wrestler will go off instinct and
and they may not have a chance to discuss things,
you know, prior to a match. They just sort of
go with it and call it in the ring and
do their thing. And I'm just saying, like, that's that
takes skill. That takes an incredible amount of skill to
think on the fly, to be safe and not hurt
(38:24):
somebody and also entertain people. I mean, come on, that's
that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
It's physical improv is what it is.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Totally. I sit behind a microphone and talk every day
and try to entering people. I use one part of
my creativity. That's it, one part of my brain, and
that's it. Try to make people laughing, people feel good.
Wrestlers do a hell of a lot more and have
to again come across as these larger than life figures.
Entertain be smart, be safe, you know again, just a
(38:54):
different appreciation for what wrestlers do.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So I will that's all bullshit. Actually, it's actually the
easiest thing to do in the world. We just wait
until radio guys and news guys come in and want
to do their stupid little stories. Right. We look like
it's much harder than it actually really is. Just think
about it. Think about it. If it wasn't that easy,
(39:16):
there wouldn't be a bunch of mud shows in every
little backwater town north Kakilaki. This is an actual thing
going on right now, all right, the pot wrestling has
become the podcast worlds of radio.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I'm telling us, sick lift out there, what a callback
to you're the best? Uh So I want to move
on to something else, but I will say this is
the last thing on that subject, which is, as a
member of super Kick Management, I am officially extending the
invitation to you shem anytime you want to come back.
(39:51):
I understand you don't want to get in the ring,
but you'd make a hell of a manager.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I would love that, and talk.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
The only thing the manager has to do is take
a chair shot to the face.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Oh, you might need to take a couple of chair shots.
And the way that you bump as a manager is
different than the way you bump as a wrestler.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Okay, it hurts way less. Listen, I'm sold.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Okay, I am so.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
I would love that. You see, now you got me
thinking that'd be amazing. Yes see August twenty third.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
We'll see you August twenty third at the Great Hall.
Talk to me about these monthly recaps that you do
for the radio show for Kiss. When I do my
big hello intro every week for a guest and I
put my my my four bars of bullshit rhyming together
(40:45):
at the end, I mean, I probably spent an hour
pulling research, figuring out what I want to say about
the person, figuring out what the fuck I'm gonna rhyme
with their name, And you know that's about it. It's
it's usually, on average, about an hour's worth of work.
When I look at what goes into those recaps, and
(41:06):
I just think the research on what stories happened, did
it happen this month or did it happen in the
week the last week of the last month, and the research,
the writing in order to make it rhythmic and melodic
and fit a tune, the filming, the production, the number
of cuts and edits and everything like are you starting
(41:30):
the July recap in April? Like what is going on?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Like how are you doing this?
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Thank you for that question. Firstly, I don't do this
by myself. I get I'm the one that gets a
lot of the praise, but there is a team of
people who film, people who edit, people who help me
produce the song that deserve a ton of credit. So
these started back in January twenty twenty two, and I've
done one every single month since then. So you're talking
about thirty one thirty two months in a row of
(41:58):
recap songs. And I'll never forget it started because that
month a bunch of stuff happened, like Betty White died,
called back to b bar Arthur and whatnot. Betty White
had died, Bob Saget had died. There was a bunch
of stuff that happened that month and I had said
to myself, well, you know, I feel like we should
be doing something with This was a crazy month in
(42:18):
pop culture. So came up with the song and did it,
and you know, it was good. It was you know,
poorly produced, but it was it was fun. It was
kind of something I kind of did on the fly,
last minute. And then there was this need to have
original content on our across our social pages, and as
somebody who has been singing my entire life, I thought, huh,
this might be kind of cool. It might be a
(42:39):
fun challenge. So I did it again the next month
in February and that was again crazy, and then I
did it in March. And for those who want to
go back to March twenty twenty two, that's when Will
Smith slapped the shit out of Chris Rock right, and
that was a massive, massive story, and I said, oh,
you know, I think I've got something in here now.
(42:59):
So I decided to do these monthly. And it's funny
that you ask me if I start these early.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I can't, right, I know, I'm fucking with you, but
of course.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
But you know what I mean. Like, but it's a
great question because people will ask me how long these take.
They'll be like, oh, do you just do it all month?
And I'm like, I can't. I can't. I have to
wait until there's content before I even begin writing, right,
So my first process, My first thought is to figure out, well,
what song am I gonna parody? That's the very first thought.
And then I say and then I say to myself, Okay,
(43:30):
if I'm going to choose this song, can the song
that I choose match the original rhyme scheme? So it's
so important with parodies that you match the original rhyme
scheme of the song, otherwise it's not catchy at all.
And what I do is I just keep track every
single day of something big that's happened in pop culture
in and around the twentieth or so of the month,
I say, all right, let's do a first sort of
(43:51):
rough draft of a song. I give myself about three
days or so to write the full song, and then
I record it in about a day and a half
a half or so. And then I got a guy
named Albert.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Do you write it yourself?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
The writer?
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yeah, all written by me? And then we you know,
and then we we jump into the studio for about
a day and a half two days, we we write
stuff and it's and then we do the same thing
with the video and then in about three you know,
about three days after that outcomes the output. And so
in total it's about ten days of work, I would
say for these recaps from from like literally start to finish.
(44:27):
But the real challenge with these recaps is a I'm
always wanting to try to top the next one. It's
really important to me to take care of these. These
are sort of my baby. But you can't predict what
the hell is going to happen in a month, right,
I'll tell you the one for July. We finished that
on like the twenty sixth, and then I think that
weekend Robert Downey Junior is announced as doctor Doom. How
(44:50):
can you not include that? Right, So you've got to
go ahead and include that. Say, now you have to
do a couple of edits and whatnot. So it's it's
a stressful ten days because once I'm the thing and
I'm I hope nothing else crazy happens, and and but
it's it's it's honestly the most fun that I've had
creatively speaking, uh, since doing media for what almost fifteen
(45:15):
years now.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
What's been your favorite song to parody though?
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Love this question. Eddie Murphy Party all the time my favorite.
In fact, we actually shot it in the studio that
I'm sitting in right now. I had the whole wig
and on and everything. It was. It was. That was
my favorite one to do for sure.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Do you remember what month that was?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I gotta look that up.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
That's gotta be July twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
I think, Okay, I'm gonna go pull that.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
That was fun. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Going back for one second, because the similarity just strikes me.
But I know you're a wrestling fan. I think you
followed WWE.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Mainly, right, yeah, any e w both.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Okay, have you seen Joe Hendry?
Speaker 4 (45:58):
I believe that the.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, because man, his parody songs have turned that kid
into a star, I flat out star.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah that way for a while though, Like you know
what I mean, Like when he was doing ICW stuff.
That was the big thing is when Joe Henry was on,
you were going to get this ridiculously overproduced entrance song
of him, you know, making his way to the ring
and then the entrance along with it. Like he's got
a great brain for stuff. Like that.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Oh my god, he's so smart. Even I heard him
do an interview recently where he talked about his theme song,
and he talked about how when he wrote the theme song,
he studied the science, the neuroscience of how to make
something addictive. So he's like, you know, in the song,
I literally clap my hands and zoom in on that
(46:50):
so that all the monkeys know. Clap your hands now,
you know, and play along. And he's like, I literally
put in the lyrics way your hands back and forth.
Because he's like, it's all about that interactivity. And then
when he does the song parodies like like you're doing
with the monthly recaps, he talks about, I want to
(47:10):
find a catchy song, and then I want to find
the best way possible to roast my opponent, right, And
I saw one. Someone just sent this to me this week,
and I peed myself. It was so good. He was
having a match somewhere. I don't know when this was,
maybe Tid knows. He was working against the former WW
star Elias, and Elias used to do the thing in
(47:32):
the ring where he sang with his guitar and all
that Hendry comes out. First off, Elias is in the
ring talk He's like, ah, this Joe Hendry, he's an
Elias wanna be and blah blah blah. And then all
of a sudden, the music hits and it's like, I
can't remember what the lead up to it was, but
the hook was like, h Hendry took his job, took
(47:56):
his job. Hendrey took his job. I was I was
in tears. I'm like, he kind of did. He took
his spot completely. I was dying. I'm like, this guy
is a genius. You know, he's gonna rocket to the
top of the industry. And dude, I see the exact
same thing with you. You have this creative energy and
(48:18):
you have this firing your belly, which I had when
I was young and good looking, but now I'm an old,
broken down piece of meat. And and you know what, Dude,
I look at this and I go, holy shit, this
guy Sky's the limit. So chev man, I'm so impressed
by everything you're doing.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
I can't tell you how much I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Man.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
That means a lot. Again, these these recaps mean a
lot to me, and I I give a shit about them,
you know what I mean. I never want to have
a throwaway month, you know, the worst. The worst thing
somebody could say to me is, oh that was cool,
But I like last month's better, you know, and sometimes
you get that frontrolls, right, So I again, those words
mean a lot. Thank you man, you got it.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
You gotta appreciate a year like this year too, right,
because we're getting the United States is going into an
election year.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Oh listen, Donald Trump is the gift that keeps on giving, right,
like he begins, Yeah, he is, he really is. But
to your point, I have to be so careful with
what I say about Trump, right because again, like even
in the one that you played, I just mentioned that
he got shot and that was it. There's a lot
(49:25):
more I can say about Trump, but you don't want
to come across as partisan, and then you get the
Trumpers and their anti Trumpers, and then your comment section
is all of a sudden not what you want it
to be, and then it becomes a whole shit show. Right.
So I it's a delicate balance. And again you're right,
if he wins in November, these recaps twenty twenty five
might get real, get a little dicey.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
The craziest thing, and I'm surprised it didn't make it
into your parody this month. The craziest thing he has
said in a long time, and that's a big mountain
of crazy things to say. The crazy, busiest thing I
think he's ever said. He said this past week when
he said in front of an open mic, and no
one can say, oh, it was edited, it was out
(50:09):
of context. In an open mic, he says, I know
that you don't want to get out there and vote,
Just come and vote this one last time. I'm gonna
fix the country and then you never have to vote again.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Crazy, right, But how do you tackle that? What do
you do with that? In song?
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Right?
Speaker 4 (50:30):
Like?
Speaker 6 (50:30):
What?
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Yeah, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
But that is one of the scariest and craziest things
any leader has ever said. I'm going to fix the country.
Guess what I'm gonna be king.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah, yeah, and we're all gonna sit on this side
of the border and with our popcorn and watch the
whole thing go down.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
Yep, all right.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
I picked up this new habitshm, which I just love.
Whenever people you know, just like defiantly post like like
someone like a celebrity or whatever will post like I'm
supporting Harris right, and then you'll see the comments section
it's like Trump twenty twenty four or Trump twenty and
like they don't have anything else to say. That's that's
(51:15):
their comment. So I've now got a copy and paste
hot key on my phone and I'll just respond with
have you read his platform? I'm not being an asshole,
I'm not being derogatory. And you know what, ninety nine
percent of the time they don't have a clue what's
in his platform, And if anyone actually goes and reads it,
(51:38):
it is terrifying. The things that he's talking about making
homelessness illegal, Like if you're homeless, you're gonna get a
chance to be taken to an internment camp, but if
you refuse, you go to jail. This is in his platform.
Or he talks about college credits will no longer be
(51:59):
awarded his students unless they pass a secondary exam confirming
their belief in traditional patriotic values. What the fuck is that?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Well, that the one that gets me is the federal
federal amnesty basically for police officers.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
That's the one.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
That one is wacky and listen, if that's what you
want to do, cool, but then don't be hiring every
seventeen and eighteen year old, fresh out of fresh off
the street. To have that job, there needs to be
a lot more strangility. Right, It's crazy, it's it's wacky stuff.
(52:41):
It's wacky stuff, and I think that a lot of
it is just to you know, he's a monkey throwing
shit up against the wall, right, And I literally said
to him, and you're just eating it up.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
I literally said to a friend of mine this week,
I said, look, if you support Trump, you're not being
a conservative. You're a fascist, bordering on communists. What are
you talking about? And I'm like, read his platform. Just
read the platform, okay, Like instead of just saying he's
a good businessman and he's gonna run the country like
(53:12):
one of his businesses, which is always the shit that
they trumpet, just go read his platform because it is terrifying.
And then if you still want to vote for him, cool,
go ahead. But if you do, I have a feeling
your comprehension skills are very low.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
But I also think people vote for individuals as opposed
to their interests nowadays, right, I mean, you don't.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Know, in Canada, maybe not in the US. Man they're
so are the.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Affiliated well, because there's a thing. Here's the thing that
you have to remember. And you might think that like
IQ's might be low and whatever, and you might be
talking about like, oh, they're the troglodytes of the earth
that would vote for him and stuff like that. That's
not always the case because you got to remember the
Republicans also represent a very, very very big part of
the other country, and that's the extremely well and the
(54:00):
tax breaks they go along with it. So you're talking
a very big sect of people with influence and money,
and the Democrats are no different. Listen, it's all a
gigantic shit show one way or the other. It's just
a matter of how we digested ourselves and how we
decide to, you know, take that take all of that
information and spew it out there on social media for
(54:22):
everybody else.
Speaker 4 (54:25):
I mean, you hit the nail on the head. You're
absolutely right. It's it's it's all. It's all scary. I'm
glad we're on this side of the border. Don't get
me wrong. We got a lot of you know, our
own to take care of. But I am also glad
that we're on this side because America is I feel
like we're in the middle of watching the series finale
of America sometimes, you know what I mean, like that
that that's that's kind of how it feels.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Let's all remember, let's all remember how that country started, right,
let's all remember how that country started. You were there,
tell us, I wasn't. I mean, I saw the rerun.
You know, there's a gigantic tea party. We were sick
and tired of you telling us what to do, So
we're going to go to war with you to have
our own way. I mean, they've done it before. They
(55:12):
went to war with themselves. The last time a war
was fought on North American soil in the United States
was against themselves in the Civil War. Like, they're not
afraid to do this, you know what I mean. Let's
just hope that it doesn't come down to that, and
cooler heads prevail and democracy, true democracy, not a bunch
of fabricated bullshit, ends up taking place for everybody across
(55:34):
the world.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
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who appreciates a good hat. So I want to just
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Speaker 4 (56:39):
Appreciate that. I got a big ass head, so thank you.
Speaker 3 (56:43):
Hey, Listen, if people want to get in touch with you,
if they want to pay attention to the monthly recaps,
if they want to find out more, where do they go?
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (56:49):
Easy, Just across all socials at sham at sh e M.
That's the best way to get ahold of me. And
I'm really good at answering DM, so yeah, hit me
up anytime.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
That's not true. You're not that good at answering.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Yeah, why Yeah, it sounds like you would be with
all of that free time that you have on your hands.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
Listen, I want to do this again sometime. Okay, we're
gonna have you on again. And when we do, I
want to check out those pipes. I want to hear
that that church choir voice of yours, and I want
to hear you belt something.
Speaker 4 (57:21):
Out, dude, Deil. I'll have a song ready to go
for you. How about that?
Speaker 3 (57:24):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
I will have a little jingle ready to go for you.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
Guys, give it up to Shem everybody. That was fun.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
That was amazing.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Absolutely, I like him.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
He's a talented He's a talented dude. We'll be able
to say we talked to him before he blew up
like Drake.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
Did Drake blow up?
Speaker 3 (57:52):
We can only dream.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
I mean, I know that's what Kendrick Lamar would have
in mind.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Ted final thoughts, shit, you want to plug?
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Yeah? Touch chin oh? Now, as always, you know what,
it's always a blast. You can see it there at
Notorious tid on all of my socials, all of the
stuff out there, as well as the Law live audio
wrestling over on YouTube. Go check that out. New content
stuff going up all the time, a lot of MMA talk,
(58:20):
a lot of boxing talk, a lot of wrestling talk,
and a lot of shit talk. First and foremost. If
you think that this is one thing, man who stuff
gets a little crazy over there, so please, you know,
check it out. And outside of that, it's been too long.
Let's not make it so long next time. Donnie sounds
good to me, don't forget. You can check me out
(58:41):
on Instagram at Donnie dot da Silva. Don't look for
me on Twitter, don't look for me on Facebook. You're
not gonna find me. But you can find me on Instagram.
That's the place to hit me up. Or you can
find us at Godfathers of Podcasting, also on Instagram. Those
are your two best bets. And thank you so much
to everyone for checking out the episode. Thanks to Sheam.
(59:01):
We'll see you next time.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
But this ship I'm mount, But this ship I'm mount.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
No thanks, don't mummy, I'm gonna just grab myself and
lease excuse me. Please, but this shit, I'm mout no,
but this shit I'm mouth all right.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
Then, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
What the butcher's happened, but I don't really care. I'm
gonna get the fucker Patty here
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