July 18, 2022 • 23 mins
Bassey Brazil sits down with us and expresses how music from the deep roots of Mississippi have been untapped for years. He explains his progressive plan on how to showcase homegrown talent to the rest of the world.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Uh uh, step right on the step right on the
jaws a life. It's the Enoch gonna be MOI Yeah,
I literally just picked the headphones up and walk up
to the right like over the real So open the cord, yeah,
(00:23):
life line, I got your perier yo.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Chucking.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So this perier press play, the grind starts, the rhyme starts.
We come together like car parts to make your move.
J'alls are life gonna help you out on this little groove.
The purpose too light in you with all we do,
flaws exposure you if you see, can get your closer
to poster. We poster help each other out, no doubt it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
For this closure. Get tune into the grind.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's time we take it over and it's just life
on your line.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Other what's going on everybody? Thank you for joining us
for another week of the Grind. I'm your host, James Perrier.
We have a industry professional in the house today, good
friend of mine, Basie Brazil.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
What's going on, Basie? Hey?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
What's up man? How you doing?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I'm doing good man. Thank you for joining us on
the Grind this week, and we'll be talking music and
some projects that you have with your company. Track sol
and I'm very excited for everybody to hear what you
have going on.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Oh yeah, man, I'm just excited about creating a show.
It's been it's been a long thing coming because it
was something that I always wanted to do. So to
see it starting to blossom now, it's pretty dope.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I had the opportunity to look at For everybody that
doesn't know track so t R a K. Soul, you
can find him on Instagram and Basi will be able
to answer any questions if you want to contact him,
but he is here to explain what's going on his
new projects. And like I said, I was very excited
on everything that you have going on. Your brand is
(02:09):
amazing and I think everybody else is gonna be impressed.
So I'm gonna let you take it from there. Man,
why don't you introduce yourself and let everybody know where
you're from?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Cool cool so names based Brazil.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I'm from Mississippi and I've been actually doing the music
thing for almost like ten years, almost ten years, and
so a lot of stuff that I've been doing is
like the behind scenes as far as like producing and promotion,
promoting music and stuff like that, and so one of
the ideas that I had gotten before was to do
(02:42):
a platform or something like a showcase for artists in
Mississippi because of the lack of exposure that is in
that state. And so that's how the whole idea of
Creative Track show and the show that we're doing and
ignol your show. And so, just like I said before,
just to see a Boston now it's pretty dope is
(03:04):
actually my second attempt.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I tried doing something like this a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Back, and I really couldn't get legs under it due
to like, uh, opportunities and financial situations. So the fact
that you know, everything's working out the way that I
planned out for the workout, it's truly a blessing.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I believe it's gonna it's working out at the
time it's supposed to. You know, I could think back
at some projects that I've started years ago. You know,
me and You've talked, We had deep conversations about this stuff.
So I just think that when I've tried it before,
the idea was good, the concept was good. It's just
everything else to make it a success wasn't there for
(03:42):
me at that time. So you know, I was kind
of appreciate it now and we just take those lessons
learned and apply them now.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah, And it's crazy, right, like as the thing with
life is, like things happen and you learn certain things,
and then at that point it becomes pieces to a
puzzle and you have to decide whether to keep that
piece or or throw it away.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And when you keep that piece, sometimes it can.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Go somewhere where you didn't even see it going into
the piece of the puzzle before you know, like you'd
be like, oh, that's what, that's what, that's what that
purpose of that was for kind of thing. And so
with the whole tex sawd thing, one of the things
that helped me a lot, help me out a lot
with building the brand itself was that when I went
to college, because when I was in college, I didn't
(04:35):
think that I would get anything out of it because
I ended up taking up a degree that I didn't
want kind of thing. It was just going on with
my mom's like you're gonna need it in your future,
so much as well come and go and get it.
So I went to school for business management, and so
I was there, I said, man, I'm not gonna to
use any of this stuff at that time, I was
so focused on being a producer. I said, Man, I'm
(04:56):
gonna use any of this stuff. I got this deal
coming up with records. I you know, my mind was
in a different state than what it was supposed to
be at that time, And so I did the whole
I got the degree and just felt like I just
connected dust kind of thing. And so when I came
to try to do the traps thing, a lot of
(05:17):
the stuff that I had learned and a lot of
the connections to connections and like connections that I made
in college they were still there. And so I was
able to use those tools to help me build this
a lot better than I probably wouldn't have been able
to without that without that information.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Now, one one thing I wanted to ask you is
who gave you the music book? Like when you started
very early? Was somebody in your family?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Was it your.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Mom, your pop's cousin. What was it about music that
attracted you to that field?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh? Man, I'm a I'm a product un music, right.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
So my mom just tended to start the time when
when she was when she was pigging it with me,
she would put headphones on her on the stomach or
She would listen to music like speakers like right beside me,
and she would play like classical music like beth Over
and stuff like that just to get me kind of
(06:19):
exposed to it before I even walking on his earth.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So she used to do that a lot. My mom
was showing to music.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
She would listen to artists like she was a huge
Prince fan, which is kind of how what my name
kind of play off of.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
She was a huge Prince fan. She was.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
She loved Michael Jackson. She was into like all that
type of style of music. Then my dad was the
same way. He was into different type of music as well,
and he was a little more diverse into it prepared
to my mom, because he was listening to I turn
her Rock, he was listening to blues. He would listen
to country music and stuff like that. So he would
playing in his car and being in a car That's
what I was here, so growing up around on that,
(07:01):
I can vibly picture the first CD that like I
remember word by word, which was like The Miseducation the
Lawn Hill. I know that city from the beginning of
the end and the back of Belly City because that
was like something that my mom would always play in
her car. So that's that was the type of stuff
(07:21):
that I was supposed to. And then being around my grandparents.
My grandmother on my dad's side, she was part of
the Mississippi Mass Choir before she had gotten sick, and
so she would go out and perform with them. And
then my grandmother on my mother's side, she was heavily
in the church too, and so we would always uh,
(07:43):
you know, just make up.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Like we was almost like a jasifire, me and my cousin.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
So we would listen to church music and then we
would like pat this routine and stuff so we can
do it at church. And so I was just always
surrounded by music, Like literally music with the soundtrack of
my life.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We had endless conversations, you know, the mis education of
Lauryn Hill, classic hip hop, the mcavel A album, All
Eyes on Me.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I mean, I mean you.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Come from a production your production ear is amazing. So
like you know, we talk lyrics, production, how it was arranged,
and you know, if people are really hip hop heads,
they listen to everything when it comes to a record,
it's just not the So I think we have a
greater appreciation as well as everybody else's with with hip hop.
(08:36):
But moving forward, I mean going into high school, did
you play any instruments?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Okay, so give a little give us a little background
on that, so so everybody knows.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Okay, so you got the bug, you're young. Moving forward,
now you're in a band. What instruments did you play?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I played the trombone.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I played the trombone, and then on my off time
at the house, I would play the piano because my
mom bought me a piano a keyboard back when I
was like seven, and so I just always played the
piano and keyboard and stuff, and then I'll watched my
grandmother play and so she would teach me notes here
(09:14):
and there. So that's how that's like something that I
always kept with me, Like I still have that keyboard
from when I was seven because it was a studio
keyboard and so it was I never realized the quality
of it until I got older and I was like,
oh man, this is this is a really you know,
this is a pretty good keyboard. My Mom's been a
pretty penny on this, and so it just one of
(09:36):
those things where I kept it every now and then
I look at it as a reminder of like, you know,
that was how I started kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I remember when my mom bought me a CaCO Kmart keyboard.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I don't know if you remember those.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Little rap threw back in the day, and uh we
make ot a little music on there and then have
the tape machine and put it on there. But you
know we wanted the advances you were with the you know,
stupid but it was pretty fun man. And it's just
like music just brings out the better side of people.
I think that is that in mathematics, are the two
(10:15):
things that stand true in this world that brings everybody together.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I know we have very entering.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I'm glad we came into the nice seguay. So we
talk about hip hop, we talk about soft rock. I
think when we've sat and listened to everything from air
Supply to Hall of Notes to you know, BB King
and Bob Marley, like what groups really.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Amazed you?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
What bands out there really impressed you to say?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I'm talking about everything from arrangement to lyrics to the
stage presence.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
What's your top three?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
So I can't I can't go by top by tops, right,
but I can go by I guess age time timelines,
So that's fine.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
So when I was nine, my dad had this thick
uh Martin Marvin gay uh cit packet. I was like,
I forgot what they called it, but it was like
it was it was almost like a book and you
had the CDs in it. Yeah, and it had the
(11:29):
little panto in there that had like the pictures of
him and different notes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And so that was like my first.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Exposure to Marvin Gaye when he played in the card
and I was listening to and I was just I
was amazed. I was just like just the complexity of
the range that he was hitting and how he just
seen made it. It just seemed effortless, like you just
seen it was like efforting. It just seemed like it
was just another day for him. And so just listening
to that, uh, just listening to like all the instruments
(11:59):
that were all and the dynamics and the climate as
everything that just made a song and it was just like, Wow,
what am I listening to?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Kind of thing. So that was like around that timeframe.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
When I got a little bit older and I started
going more into like a little bit more into like
seventies rock. I listened to led Zeppelin and I was
listening to When the Levee Breaks, and it blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
How much was put into that song.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
That's just the beginning along, and I'm like, and I
think about the song. I think about one of my
friends because he had the same moment too when he
heard When the Levey Breakes. He said he had heard
it on a bus and then I guess he had
a stint. He had borrowed see You from his friend
and was listening to walking and he said the song
(12:53):
came on and the harmonica playing and guitar the background
and stuff, and he said he was so on away
by it, and he was pointing at his headthones and
looking at somebody and smiling like they can hear it too.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I've had a couple of moments like listening to music.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I would say Very White had that effect on me
with the orchestra and everything, because I had the box
set for very very White's music.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
M H.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Luthor really M Flourence impressed me because Luthor was one
that was singing behind a beat. Yeah you know what
I'm talking about. So a lot of people can't sing
with Luther because he drags behind the beat.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
He'll just tell you go ahead and play, go ahead
and play. I'll catch up. And a lot of musicians
weren't used to that, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
I think Lala Hathaway was like that too. Really, yeah,
she did to this day. I think she still does that,
and she'll do it to the point where she occurred
her voice where it sounds like it's that, but it's
her curving her voice to like almost come behind the
track and bring it almost like a fade out.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
But it's her. It's not the producer.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
It's just her right, and she's They're amazing, man, it's
just hall of notes. I like watching Daryl Hall play
and sing. And you know, Sarah Smile really got me.
And I mean, I mean we share the same same
appreciation for music.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
But those those those are some of the groups that
got me to got me into music. And really really
I played the guitar, so I was self taught, did
a lot when I was in high school. Wanted to
get back into it, and then my wife bought me
a guitar a couple of years ago and I got
back into it.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
But I really love it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
So.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You know, moving forward, Hey, I got a question for
you so one thing that your audience is going to
see when they see your videos, so remember to go
to track so at track soul on instr you can
also find the YouTube page. Where can we find a
YouTube page too for your artists that you have out.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
It'll be check at YouTube dot com, slash checks slash three.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
So you have a very unique concept and people are
going to be surprised. How did you come up with
the concept which is amazing mural art around Mississippi your
home state, Repid, Mississippi. How did you come up with
a concept to say, man, I could put an artist
in front of art and see how it goes. Because
(15:32):
people they're not going to get the gist of what
we're saying right now until they actually watch it.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
So how did you come up with the concept?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Just being around art? My mother she's she's she's a painter.
She has a master's in art right and so she
would she would paint murals and stuff like that when
she was in college. And so I growing up around that,
I had such appreciation toys that I actually have summer
(16:00):
paintings in my house now and like lamp states he
created from scratch, I have them around the house. And
so I always had appreciation for art and being in
certain areas where we lived at I did theater and
stuff like that. So the art dynamic itself, I always
had appreciation for it. And so being from Mississippi, I
felt like a lot of stuff down there don't get
(16:23):
enough shigne because the people need the Mississippi. They think
like old plantation, cotton house, backyard, corn of cottonfield, right,
and it's like, no, dude, this is like twenty twenty.
It's not like that. But there are things down there
that are work looking at you know, there are things
down there work being like, wow, that's there. So I
(16:47):
was I was actually on a live feed on Instagram
and I was listening to like a talent show, and
I was listening to artists from Mississippi because you know,
there's a they have a really music scene in the jactionary.
It's almost like a hippie, earthy like vibe. And so
(17:10):
I was listening to these artists to perform and I
was like, wow, they are really good. And then I
was kind of up sales cups like I wouldn't have
never known who they were if it wasn't for this
live feed that I randomly stumbled upon, and so I say,
you know what, I'm going to create this platform where
I can get them more of an attention towards their art.
(17:32):
And then while I'm at it, I'm going to go
ahead and put these mirrors like had them do it
in front of these mirrors, and I'm gonna have the
person who was recording and have them also from Mississippi too,
because you know, I want to put I want to
bring everybody with me kind of thing. You know, if
I'm going doing in Mississippi, I want everything to be
Mississippi all the way down from the film all the
way down to just everything. And so that was where
(17:54):
that all that came from.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Is just I just.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Want to bring my state to the forefront so people
can see what we're doing down in there.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Man, I must say you, I know you're gonna have
people lining up to partner with you the brand with you.
Your brand is very unique. Everybody's going to enjoy what
they see. Can you shout out the name of a
couple of artists that you've worked with so far?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
So Viottam is see she was still on my first
the first episode, and I think because of her is
what wasgitimized the show because she's really well known in
the on the ground scene as far as like Mississippi music,
and she's such a very humble person, and I just
I hit her up and she was she was down
(18:37):
for it, and so just talking to her and just
getting some insight from her it really.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Helped me out lots, like, Yeah, this is what I
want to do.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So when I finally got the whole footage for the
first episode, that was the confidence I needed to just
keep it, just keep it moving. And so that helped
out a lot. Uh, let's see a cool kid rich
He's he's very humble as well.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
He's a very talented artist I had.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I was still trying to figure out how I wanted
to do the episodes, and so I put up a
status trying to get you know, artists to hobabam hop.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Upon doing the show.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
He hit me up immediately, like as soon as I
posted up, he hit me up like five seconds later.
And so he's chopping it up with him and like
he was very humble, and it was like he was
very determined. You could say they was very passionate about
his music because I've seen him perform before at this
thing called Jason Music Festival that happened once a year.
(19:36):
Did they have. It's like they get a bunch of
independent artists Mississippi and they go on tour at different
places in Mississippi to get their name and brand out,
and they do it once a year around January timeframe.
And so I saw him perform and he had he
has almost like a natural stage president, and so it
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was just it was just dope just to see him
perform stuff like that, and for and then for episode three,
Dre he's really amazing and he has such a stage
president and its just like he's his ora is just amazing.
So it's just dealing with these artists that have almost
that are like almost a walking brand of themselves. It
(20:23):
helps out a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
You know, I'm glad you said that, because these artists
have they have their stuff together.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I've watched all three of you episodes.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
And thanks, thank you for including me in that, and
you can't compare all three of these like each one
has their own lane in their stage presence. The way
they come across on video is it's very authentic.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
The one thing that I've noticed as well is that
these murals that they have in the background of their video.
They seem to match the type of art artists that's
in front of the camera. Was that on purpose or
when you scout, are you looking for that particular artist
to represent that, you know, vision of that mural?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It was on purpose. I looked.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I would look at mirrors and like, oh, like I
would talk to the artists and stuff and see if
Darryl Okay would doing the show. And the person who
does the video shoot for me, Alexander Fresco, he has
like pictures of mirrors in the town and stuff and
he would send it to me. So I was like, oh, yeah,
that artist be perfect for that or no. I would
(21:35):
prepare which mirror would be perfect for that type of
style that that that that artist white does And so
it's literally like putting pieces together to match it up.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
And so far there's been. It's been doing good so.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Far, man, I can't see this going nowhere but up,
because you know, five years from now, ten years from now,
when your brand is like being the strict it everywhere
in digital media and whatever type of media form platform
is gonna be out.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Man, you got it. You know. When I first heard it,
I just looked at you like what.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
And that's okay because I talked to you about it
and like I sold you the storyboard for it and everything,
like and the fact that even for like the first episode,
like I was saying here, I wanted this to do this, this, this, this, this,
and then to show you the video of it, and
just everything went exactly how I planned it out for
that first episode.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, you got some people in your circle that really
show your visit, man, and I wish you nothing but
luck you know, we always talking about success. If how
if we can help you anyway, just let me know. Man,
you know we're here for you. But before we get
on out of here today, please let everybody know how
we can find you social media phone number if you
(22:53):
want to give it out. Just let everybody know how
we can find you and your branded material.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Oh so yeah, just go to We're available on all
social media sites, but we're mostly on Instagram for updates
and for like, uh, for information on who's going to
be on the next show. You'll find that on Instagram.
(23:19):
The whole show, the whole show and whole episode themselves
you can find on YouTube just type in the name check.
So we're currently in the process of doing shirts for
the seasons that we'll be doing. So season one surf
would be available at some point a couple of months,
and we got to, like you said, got nowhere else
to go but up. We have a lot of ideas
(23:40):
and stuff that go be outside of the box. It's
gonna be really dope. Season finale it's gonna be amazing,
and the season two first episode is gonna be really great.
So just to tune in and En Jordan Enjordia Show
Uh uh, step right on the step right on the
jaws a life. It's the Enoch gonna be MOI Yeah,
I literally just picked the headphones up and walk up
to the right like over the real So open the cord, yeah,
(00:23):
life line, I got your perier yo.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Chucking.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So this perier press play, the grind starts, the rhyme starts.
We come together like car parts to make your move.
J'alls are life gonna help you out on this little groove.
The purpose too light in you with all we do,
flaws exposure you if you see, can get your closer
to poster. We poster help each other out, no doubt it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
For this closure. Get tune into the grind.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's time we take it over and it's just life
on your line.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Other what's going on everybody? Thank you for joining us
for another week of the Grind. I'm your host, James Perrier.
We have a industry professional in the house today, good
friend of mine, Basie Brazil.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
What's going on, Basie? Hey?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
What's up man? How you doing?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I'm doing good man. Thank you for joining us on
the Grind this week, and we'll be talking music and
some projects that you have with your company. Track sol
and I'm very excited for everybody to hear what you
have going on.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Oh yeah, man, I'm just excited about creating a show.
It's been it's been a long thing coming because it
was something that I always wanted to do. So to
see it starting to blossom now, it's pretty dope.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I had the opportunity to look at For everybody that
doesn't know track so t R a K. Soul, you
can find him on Instagram and Basi will be able
to answer any questions if you want to contact him,
but he is here to explain what's going on his
new projects. And like I said, I was very excited
on everything that you have going on. Your brand is
(02:09):
amazing and I think everybody else is gonna be impressed.
So I'm gonna let you take it from there. Man,
why don't you introduce yourself and let everybody know where
you're from?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Cool cool so names based Brazil.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I'm from Mississippi and I've been actually doing the music
thing for almost like ten years, almost ten years, and
so a lot of stuff that I've been doing is
like the behind scenes as far as like producing and promotion,
promoting music and stuff like that, and so one of
the ideas that I had gotten before was to do
(02:42):
a platform or something like a showcase for artists in
Mississippi because of the lack of exposure that is in
that state. And so that's how the whole idea of
Creative Track show and the show that we're doing and
ignol your show. And so, just like I said before,
just to see a Boston now it's pretty dope is
(03:04):
actually my second attempt.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I tried doing something like this a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Back, and I really couldn't get legs under it due
to like, uh, opportunities and financial situations. So the fact
that you know, everything's working out the way that I
planned out for the workout, it's truly a blessing.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I believe it's gonna it's working out at the
time it's supposed to. You know, I could think back
at some projects that I've started years ago. You know,
me and You've talked, We had deep conversations about this stuff.
So I just think that when I've tried it before,
the idea was good, the concept was good. It's just
everything else to make it a success wasn't there for
(03:42):
me at that time. So you know, I was kind
of appreciate it now and we just take those lessons
learned and apply them now.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah, And it's crazy, right, like as the thing with
life is, like things happen and you learn certain things,
and then at that point it becomes pieces to a
puzzle and you have to decide whether to keep that
piece or or throw it away.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And when you keep that piece, sometimes it can.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Go somewhere where you didn't even see it going into
the piece of the puzzle before you know, like you'd
be like, oh, that's what, that's what, that's what that
purpose of that was for kind of thing. And so
with the whole tex sawd thing, one of the things
that helped me a lot, help me out a lot
with building the brand itself was that when I went
to college, because when I was in college, I didn't
(04:35):
think that I would get anything out of it because
I ended up taking up a degree that I didn't
want kind of thing. It was just going on with
my mom's like you're gonna need it in your future,
so much as well come and go and get it.
So I went to school for business management, and so
I was there, I said, man, I'm not gonna to
use any of this stuff at that time, I was
so focused on being a producer. I said, Man, I'm
(04:56):
gonna use any of this stuff. I got this deal
coming up with records. I you know, my mind was
in a different state than what it was supposed to
be at that time, And so I did the whole
I got the degree and just felt like I just
connected dust kind of thing. And so when I came
to try to do the traps thing, a lot of
(05:17):
the stuff that I had learned and a lot of
the connections to connections and like connections that I made
in college they were still there. And so I was
able to use those tools to help me build this
a lot better than I probably wouldn't have been able
to without that without that information.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Now, one one thing I wanted to ask you is
who gave you the music book? Like when you started
very early? Was somebody in your family?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Was it your.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Mom, your pop's cousin. What was it about music that
attracted you to that field?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh? Man, I'm a I'm a product un music, right.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
So my mom just tended to start the time when
when she was when she was pigging it with me,
she would put headphones on her on the stomach or
She would listen to music like speakers like right beside me,
and she would play like classical music like beth Over
and stuff like that just to get me kind of
(06:19):
exposed to it before I even walking on his earth.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So she used to do that a lot. My mom
was showing to music.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
She would listen to artists like she was a huge
Prince fan, which is kind of how what my name
kind of play off of.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
She was a huge Prince fan. She was.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
She loved Michael Jackson. She was into like all that
type of style of music. Then my dad was the
same way. He was into different type of music as well,
and he was a little more diverse into it prepared
to my mom, because he was listening to I turn
her Rock, he was listening to blues. He would listen
to country music and stuff like that. So he would
playing in his car and being in a car That's
what I was here, so growing up around on that,
(07:01):
I can vibly picture the first CD that like I
remember word by word, which was like The Miseducation the
Lawn Hill. I know that city from the beginning of
the end and the back of Belly City because that
was like something that my mom would always play in
her car. So that's that was the type of stuff
(07:21):
that I was supposed to. And then being around my grandparents.
My grandmother on my dad's side, she was part of
the Mississippi Mass Choir before she had gotten sick, and
so she would go out and perform with them. And
then my grandmother on my mother's side, she was heavily
in the church too, and so we would always uh,
(07:43):
you know, just make up.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Like we was almost like a jasifire, me and my cousin.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
So we would listen to church music and then we
would like pat this routine and stuff so we can
do it at church. And so I was just always
surrounded by music, Like literally music with the soundtrack of
my life.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We had endless conversations, you know, the mis education of
Lauryn Hill, classic hip hop, the mcavel A album, All
Eyes on Me.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I mean, I mean you.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Come from a production your production ear is amazing. So
like you know, we talk lyrics, production, how it was arranged,
and you know, if people are really hip hop heads,
they listen to everything when it comes to a record,
it's just not the So I think we have a
greater appreciation as well as everybody else's with with hip hop.
(08:36):
But moving forward, I mean going into high school, did
you play any instruments?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Okay, so give a little give us a little background
on that, so so everybody knows.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Okay, so you got the bug, you're young. Moving forward,
now you're in a band. What instruments did you play?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I played the trombone.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I played the trombone, and then on my off time
at the house, I would play the piano because my
mom bought me a piano a keyboard back when I
was like seven, and so I just always played the
piano and keyboard and stuff, and then I'll watched my
grandmother play and so she would teach me notes here
(09:14):
and there. So that's how that's like something that I
always kept with me, Like I still have that keyboard
from when I was seven because it was a studio
keyboard and so it was I never realized the quality
of it until I got older and I was like,
oh man, this is this is a really you know,
this is a pretty good keyboard. My Mom's been a
pretty penny on this, and so it just one of
(09:36):
those things where I kept it every now and then
I look at it as a reminder of like, you know,
that was how I started kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I remember when my mom bought me a CaCO Kmart keyboard.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I don't know if you remember those.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Little rap threw back in the day, and uh we
make ot a little music on there and then have
the tape machine and put it on there. But you
know we wanted the advances you were with the you know,
stupid but it was pretty fun man. And it's just
like music just brings out the better side of people.
I think that is that in mathematics, are the two
(10:15):
things that stand true in this world that brings everybody together.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I know we have very entering.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I'm glad we came into the nice seguay. So we
talk about hip hop, we talk about soft rock. I
think when we've sat and listened to everything from air
Supply to Hall of Notes to you know, BB King
and Bob Marley, like what groups really.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Amazed you?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
What bands out there really impressed you to say?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I'm talking about everything from arrangement to lyrics to the
stage presence.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
What's your top three?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
So I can't I can't go by top by tops, right,
but I can go by I guess age time timelines,
So that's fine.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
So when I was nine, my dad had this thick
uh Martin Marvin gay uh cit packet. I was like,
I forgot what they called it, but it was like
it was it was almost like a book and you
had the CDs in it. Yeah, and it had the
(11:29):
little panto in there that had like the pictures of
him and different notes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And so that was like my first.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Exposure to Marvin Gaye when he played in the card
and I was listening to and I was just I
was amazed. I was just like just the complexity of
the range that he was hitting and how he just
seen made it. It just seemed effortless, like you just
seen it was like efforting. It just seemed like it
was just another day for him. And so just listening
to that, uh, just listening to like all the instruments
(11:59):
that were all and the dynamics and the climate as
everything that just made a song and it was just like, Wow,
what am I listening to?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Kind of thing. So that was like around that timeframe.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
When I got a little bit older and I started
going more into like a little bit more into like
seventies rock. I listened to led Zeppelin and I was
listening to When the Levee Breaks, and it blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
How much was put into that song.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
That's just the beginning along, and I'm like, and I
think about the song. I think about one of my
friends because he had the same moment too when he
heard When the Levey Breakes. He said he had heard
it on a bus and then I guess he had
a stint. He had borrowed see You from his friend
and was listening to walking and he said the song
(12:53):
came on and the harmonica playing and guitar the background
and stuff, and he said he was so on away
by it, and he was pointing at his headthones and
looking at somebody and smiling like they can hear it too.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I've had a couple of moments like listening to music.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I would say Very White had that effect on me
with the orchestra and everything, because I had the box
set for very very White's music.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
M H.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Luthor really M Flourence impressed me because Luthor was one
that was singing behind a beat. Yeah you know what
I'm talking about. So a lot of people can't sing
with Luther because he drags behind the beat.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
He'll just tell you go ahead and play, go ahead
and play. I'll catch up. And a lot of musicians
weren't used to that, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
I think Lala Hathaway was like that too. Really, yeah,
she did to this day. I think she still does that,
and she'll do it to the point where she occurred
her voice where it sounds like it's that, but it's
her curving her voice to like almost come behind the
track and bring it almost like a fade out.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
But it's her. It's not the producer.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
It's just her right, and she's They're amazing, man, it's
just hall of notes. I like watching Daryl Hall play
and sing. And you know, Sarah Smile really got me.
And I mean, I mean we share the same same
appreciation for music.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
But those those those are some of the groups that
got me to got me into music. And really really
I played the guitar, so I was self taught, did
a lot when I was in high school. Wanted to
get back into it, and then my wife bought me
a guitar a couple of years ago and I got
back into it.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
But I really love it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
So.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You know, moving forward, Hey, I got a question for
you so one thing that your audience is going to
see when they see your videos, so remember to go
to track so at track soul on instr you can
also find the YouTube page. Where can we find a
YouTube page too for your artists that you have out.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
It'll be check at YouTube dot com, slash checks slash three.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
So you have a very unique concept and people are
going to be surprised. How did you come up with
the concept which is amazing mural art around Mississippi your
home state, Repid, Mississippi. How did you come up with
a concept to say, man, I could put an artist
in front of art and see how it goes. Because
(15:32):
people they're not going to get the gist of what
we're saying right now until they actually watch it.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
So how did you come up with the concept?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Just being around art? My mother she's she's she's a painter.
She has a master's in art right and so she
would she would paint murals and stuff like that when
she was in college. And so I growing up around that,
I had such appreciation toys that I actually have summer
(16:00):
paintings in my house now and like lamp states he
created from scratch, I have them around the house. And
so I always had appreciation for art and being in
certain areas where we lived at I did theater and
stuff like that. So the art dynamic itself, I always
had appreciation for it. And so being from Mississippi, I
felt like a lot of stuff down there don't get
(16:23):
enough shigne because the people need the Mississippi. They think
like old plantation, cotton house, backyard, corn of cottonfield, right,
and it's like, no, dude, this is like twenty twenty.
It's not like that. But there are things down there
that are work looking at you know, there are things
down there work being like, wow, that's there. So I
(16:47):
was I was actually on a live feed on Instagram
and I was listening to like a talent show, and
I was listening to artists from Mississippi because you know,
there's a they have a really music scene in the jactionary.
It's almost like a hippie, earthy like vibe. And so
(17:10):
I was listening to these artists to perform and I
was like, wow, they are really good. And then I
was kind of up sales cups like I wouldn't have
never known who they were if it wasn't for this
live feed that I randomly stumbled upon, and so I say,
you know what, I'm going to create this platform where
I can get them more of an attention towards their art.
(17:32):
And then while I'm at it, I'm going to go
ahead and put these mirrors like had them do it
in front of these mirrors, and I'm gonna have the
person who was recording and have them also from Mississippi too,
because you know, I want to put I want to
bring everybody with me kind of thing. You know, if
I'm going doing in Mississippi, I want everything to be
Mississippi all the way down from the film all the
way down to just everything. And so that was where
(17:54):
that all that came from.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Is just I just.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Want to bring my state to the forefront so people
can see what we're doing down in there.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Man, I must say you, I know you're gonna have
people lining up to partner with you the brand with you.
Your brand is very unique. Everybody's going to enjoy what
they see. Can you shout out the name of a
couple of artists that you've worked with so far?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
So Viottam is see she was still on my first
the first episode, and I think because of her is
what wasgitimized the show because she's really well known in
the on the ground scene as far as like Mississippi music,
and she's such a very humble person, and I just
I hit her up and she was she was down
(18:37):
for it, and so just talking to her and just
getting some insight from her it really.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Helped me out lots, like, Yeah, this is what I
want to do.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So when I finally got the whole footage for the
first episode, that was the confidence I needed to just
keep it, just keep it moving. And so that helped
out a lot. Uh, let's see a cool kid rich
He's he's very humble as well.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
He's a very talented artist I had.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I was still trying to figure out how I wanted
to do the episodes, and so I put up a
status trying to get you know, artists to hobabam hop.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Upon doing the show.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
He hit me up immediately, like as soon as I
posted up, he hit me up like five seconds later.
And so he's chopping it up with him and like
he was very humble, and it was like he was
very determined. You could say they was very passionate about
his music because I've seen him perform before at this
thing called Jason Music Festival that happened once a year.
(19:36):
Did they have. It's like they get a bunch of
independent artists Mississippi and they go on tour at different
places in Mississippi to get their name and brand out,
and they do it once a year around January timeframe.
And so I saw him perform and he had he
has almost like a natural stage president, and so it
(20:01):
was just it was just dope just to see him
perform stuff like that, and for and then for episode three,
Dre he's really amazing and he has such a stage
president and its just like he's his ora is just amazing.
So it's just dealing with these artists that have almost
that are like almost a walking brand of themselves. It
(20:23):
helps out a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
You know, I'm glad you said that, because these artists
have they have their stuff together.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I've watched all three of you episodes.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
And thanks, thank you for including me in that, and
you can't compare all three of these like each one
has their own lane in their stage presence. The way
they come across on video is it's very authentic.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
The one thing that I've noticed as well is that
these murals that they have in the background of their video.
They seem to match the type of art artists that's
in front of the camera. Was that on purpose or
when you scout, are you looking for that particular artist
to represent that, you know, vision of that mural?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It was on purpose. I looked.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I would look at mirrors and like, oh, like I
would talk to the artists and stuff and see if
Darryl Okay would doing the show. And the person who
does the video shoot for me, Alexander Fresco, he has
like pictures of mirrors in the town and stuff and
he would send it to me. So I was like, oh, yeah,
that artist be perfect for that or no. I would
(21:35):
prepare which mirror would be perfect for that type of
style that that that that artist white does And so
it's literally like putting pieces together to match it up.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
And so far there's been. It's been doing good so.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Far, man, I can't see this going nowhere but up,
because you know, five years from now, ten years from now,
when your brand is like being the strict it everywhere
in digital media and whatever type of media form platform
is gonna be out.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Man, you got it. You know. When I first heard it,
I just looked at you like what.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
And that's okay because I talked to you about it
and like I sold you the storyboard for it and everything,
like and the fact that even for like the first episode,
like I was saying here, I wanted this to do this, this, this, this, this,
and then to show you the video of it, and
just everything went exactly how I planned it out for
that first episode.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, you got some people in your circle that really
show your visit, man, and I wish you nothing but
luck you know, we always talking about success. If how
if we can help you anyway, just let me know. Man,
you know we're here for you. But before we get
on out of here today, please let everybody know how
we can find you social media phone number if you
(22:53):
want to give it out. Just let everybody know how
we can find you and your branded material.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Oh so yeah, just go to We're available on all
social media sites, but we're mostly on Instagram for updates
and for like, uh, for information on who's going to
be on the next show. You'll find that on Instagram.
(23:19):
The whole show, the whole show and whole episode themselves
you can find on YouTube just type in the name check.
So we're currently in the process of doing shirts for
the seasons that we'll be doing. So season one surf
would be available at some point a couple of months,
and we got to, like you said, got nowhere else
to go but up. We have a lot of ideas
(23:40):
and stuff that go be outside of the box. It's
gonna be really dope. Season finale it's gonna be amazing,
and the season two first episode is gonna be really great.
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