Erica Knows about Soaking - South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (1999)

Harken! The mountain's four wise men/women left the summit to discuss Trey Parker and Matt Stone's South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut! Released in 1999, the film stars Matt Stone, Trey Parker, Mary Kay Bergman, Isaac Hayes, and many others. It was filmed in the United States and was distributed by Paramount Pictures! Enjoy your monthly trip to Shaolin. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everybody. This is Justin the Hoary Urchin and before
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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special someone Eric has been looking for. Without further ado,
onto the show.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's bad news. It's travelers. Watch up a group of men.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
That's fine, you saved me.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I have nothing to welcome to you.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Welcome to the Welcome to the Heavily Mandate. Welcome to
the Heavily Mandates. We have come down from the mountain
and interrupted our study of Kung Flu to review films
of sundry quality for the wretched and belagued people of
the Earth. My name is Justin the Hoary Urchin, and
today I'm joined by the Drunken Master. Kellen, how are

(01:20):
you doing, sir?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Oh, well, fuck you buddy.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Welcome to season five, Season.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Five welcome, Yeah, something it almost feels like but it's
been a long time, so it's great to be back
in the house. Yeah, this is curious. Yeah, we've we've
talked many, many an hour about this and other things
in the interim, but let's get after it.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Josh, the delist Venoms is here. How are you doing, sir?

Speaker 5 (01:55):
I'm super.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I feel like that defensive to someone.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
We'll find out by the end of this episode.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
And Erica, Lady Desstab is here. He's kicking an old
school behind the mull at Nova. How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (02:18):
I don't know what to do with that either. I'm good.
I'm very excited about our new season, although I feel
like I'm gonna regret that.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
But we're going to start with nineteen ninety nine's South Park, Bigger, Longer,
and Uncut, which was named that because the MPAA thought
that South Park All Hell Breaks Loose was just a
little bit over the top. Is that a joke?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Is that for real?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
No? That is true. I forgot that. Yeah, they said
they couldn't call it the movie itself is censorship, and
then they're making commentary about what's happening to the movies.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
They said they couldn't call it that because there's a
curse word in the title. Well then they then they
came back with bigger, longer, and uncut, and they were like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
And that's so much better and less awkward sounding.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, are trying it.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
It's super awkward, especially if you have to google that, right, Like, no, is.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
That your preference?

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I believe, Oh my gosh, I'm not even Oh. Okay,
before we get into this musical, though, I think we
should go around and talk about our individual thoughts on
musical theater and our experience with it.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Okay, I'll start. I hate Rogers and Hammerstein with a passion.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Okay, you're your second emotion.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
I generally I generally hate musicals until maybe the mid seventies,
and I try to be selective, but I do like
musical theater.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
You wait, I'm sorry, you do or you don't like
musicals until the mid seventies.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
I don't generally like any musicals until at LEAs the
mid seventies.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Okay, that makes sense. Okay, Yeah, there's a lot of
good stuff out there.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
All right, justin you you yourself have starred in a
musical theater before, so that was true.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah, I was. I was in a performance of Into
the Woods, how a movie version of Into the Woods.
My heart was hut.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Can I with Josh Into the Woods?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
This was our freshman year of high school. And I
also auditioned for Into the Woods. And I remember, yeah,
same part, and I remember very like self conscious because
I was nervous to sing in front of people, and
nervous because like you had to bring a song and
you had to like have someone accompany you. I remember
what I was saying, but it was super awkward and

(04:49):
I was very shy. But I was a dancer and
so I killed that. But somehow I was very shocked
I didn't get cast. And then Josh. I remember Josh
walking in no accompanist and he's saying, take me out
to the ball game. That's what Josh said of confidence.
And Josh as a freshman, gets like not just an
ensemble part, but like a real part. And I was

(05:11):
like low key jealous, like I'm not gonna lie. I
remember this lash. This was a core memory.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I remember that. Now that you say that that brings
it back. I do kind of remember that being a
bit shocking. No offense to you, Josh, but.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
What I also wasn't and I also wasn't inchoirir I.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Know you weren't.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
No, you just auditioned out of the blue. It didn't
even seem like something.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
I mean, but I will say you did a nice job. Like,
I'm not bitter about it, but I remember that as
a fourteen year old, like, I am fine, it's fine,
I'm right. I wanted to be the old man, damn it.
That was my rule.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Hate Hate makes you stronger. Hate makes you stronger.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Luckily they didn't cast me at all, so I could
like a sho show girl's.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Move, you know, like I would have. Really that would
have really changed things around.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah wait, you mean like the Stripper movie? What happened
in that? Did she sabotage Stripper to get her a part?

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Basically? I mean she's not just a strippers.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I don't want an.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
I don't want to get too much into that movie,
but it is being weird.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
It's weird.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Basically, It's like I believe it's all there hoping.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
So yeah, yeah, basically sabotage is the lead character so
she can like take the part like that's it.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
That Black Swans with tits. Yeah, got it?

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I would say more Ion, just kidding, okay, Erica, tell
us about your No, No, I'm going to go last.
I'm gonna go last. It's next, I know, I know.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Justin love for a second Street.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
I literally did not even watch the last twenty minutes
the film. I didn't know that was an option. If
I knew I could cut out parts of the film
we don't want to watch, I will spend a lot
less time on what we've been selecting here too.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
So I hate musicals. I've been very vocal about this
over the last few years of dealing with Eric. They
are cringe. They take all the good aspects of good
things and somehow make it worse. Like you just have
you just haven't seen a good one. Yeah, you gotta

(07:32):
find the right You got to go go see a
Book of Mormon.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, the Mormon. It's fun.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I only have listened to that on audio, and that
was hilarious by itself without so good.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah, to be fair, just just yeah, I keep going.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I am open to be persuaded, and I feel like
I'm a persuadable person at certain things, and I have
yet to be persuaded. So maybe this season firmly convincing me.
I want to shoot myself in the head if I
have to watch more than eight of these.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
So I am curious, though, are do you have a
particular few musicals that you have seen from which you
have this basis said that there.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Are I've seen, miss, I've seen you La Miss or Hamilton?
I mean they're okay. I mean I'd rather read a
book about Alexander Hamilton then hear some goofball sing about him.
I guess I would rather go to France and watch

(08:34):
fair Enough pretend to be French.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Justin you didn't say you'd rather read La Miss.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
No that books too long.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I have a prediction read Russian literature.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Are you that.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
I have a prediction by the end of the season,
you are going to be super.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
What can I ask you? What you find valuable in musicals?
Maybe that I can get draw some inspiration from that
will gets you hard in the morning? What gets you musicals?

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I guess I can jump in now. Then, So background
on me is basically I want to say, probably at
least fifty percent of my waking free time is somehow
involved in musical theater for me. Yeah, I mean in
different ways, right, Like that's clinically a problem. Yeah, okay,

(09:33):
maybe I don't know. Here's the reality. I'm not talking
about my working day, right, but like I love okay, okay, yeah,
I'm not saying I'm in one, you know, or anything,
but I mean I listen to show tunes all the
time I see a time of theater, you know, especially
because your free tickets usually, which is great. I started
doing community theater again last year, and I'm currently in

(09:56):
a show. I'm currently in News's for all, like the
Disney You're remember this nineteen ninety two could classic that
was actually pretty terrible as a movie, but got way
better when they brought it to the stage anyway, And
so I'm I love it. But that means most of
my evenings now are doing this. My throat is sword today,
so singing too much yesterday. But I love musical is

(10:19):
because I feel like the songs come when there's big
emotional change. So it's like when you I think, if
it's now, let's be fair, Like musicals are the same
just like books and films and other and books and
other formats like that. Where there are good ones and
there are bad ones, right, So if it's a good one,

(10:40):
then it takes the emotion of the show and it
just amplifies it. So if you're feeling a lot of joy,
like it's just it makes it like ten times better. Right,
you can express that in a way that you wouldn't
get just with like a straight book or a straight show.
And if something's really sad, it's the same thing. Like
Lame Is is one of my favorites. And I'm not
a big crier, you know, in terms of like sad movies,

(11:03):
like when Mufassa dies, I don't really cry, but I
cannot not. It's your example at the end of Lames.
At the end of Lames, it's like Fawcett's every time.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
It's so cathartic.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, when all those whiny rich college kids get massacred,
that's kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
I mean, there's nothing, there's nothing the French like as
much as a good massacre of overly intellectual elite student types.
Even though that's the basis of what all this is.
They don't mind throwing that in or at least uh
fuck Victor Hugo sure doesn't mind that. Victor Hugo definitely

(11:44):
has some thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I just think too, Like, I don't know, I think
I can. I can understand why people don't like it.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Right.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
A lot of especially the old school musicals, are very cheesy.
The original ones are very fresh out of vaudeville. They
don't really have strong stories. It's like, let's take these
great songs and dance numbers we have and try to
string them together. Totally get it. But I do think
there's a show for everyone. You just got to find
the right one. And Josh Rogers and the hammer sign

(12:14):
that wasn't very nice comments, but.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
There they'll they'll get over it. Yeah, I mean to be.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Honest, it's not my favorite, but I do like the
sound of music a lot. And I was just at
the Redford Theater last weekend and they did a sing
along which was that's when you know what you found
your tribe, right when like you're with a bunch of
other weirdos who are in costume and tomorrow I'm planning
I'm going in the Broadway.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah not me.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
I didn't. I didn't know that was a thing. But like,
people aren't non costumes they're in, like the dresses made
from curtains they're in. That someone had the Baroness straighter
like wig on like I was impressed.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
And tomorrow it sounds like just fetish fetish.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
I'm gonna I'm gonna caveat what I said. Like, if
you are into Rogers and Hammer Sign, it's fine. I'm
not gonna. I'm not going to you're young, but I
don't like it.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Some people like Michael Bay for whatever reason.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Yeah, whatever, as long as it's not hurting anybody else,
it's fine.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
So I will say that tomorrow. I've been wanting to
go to this for a while. They have this scene
called a Broadway rave. I guess they're all over the country.
They had two in Detroit last year that I missed.
I want to go tomorrow. From what I gather, it's
literally like what it sounds is that all these people
go and you like dance to show tunes and apparently
you get dressed up in character. So I'm very much

(13:30):
looking forward to this tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
While doing dm A, you have to do that. It's
not a rave if it's not a rave, if you're
not like.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Are we talking about drugs?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yes, yes, we're talking about drugs.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Preferably it needs to be in a abandoned UH factory
in some Sortle's St Andrew's.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
I feel like St.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Andrews is like a reputable vege. I've never been too sadly, but.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
We gotta Kellen.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah. My my background come from a very musical family
on one side. That simply skipped myself entirely. So I
definitely have, you know, deep seated resentments about that. Oh yeah, everyone,

(14:32):
sister and I together.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
We did community theaters together.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Emily and I did all right.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, yank show wasn't.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
No it was no no, no, no, no, it was.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
It was high school musical with theater.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Oh interesting was the lead.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
She did a great job, did a great job.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I remember that now. So I've always been around and obviously,
whether I wanted to or not, I was taken to
very shows. So I've got a fairly mixed opinion overall.
I've certainly had fun. It does feel far more like
something that is it's a live medium, and when it

(15:13):
becomes something that isn't live, I think it loses quite
a bit. I certainly don't get us into it when
it's something on a screen as opposed to it being
an immersive experience, which is to say I will get
into it just because it is an immersive experience, but
I think that's kind of fundamental to the genre. So
when it's not, that kind of loses me on a

(15:34):
fair number of points, just because I'm not as in
the moment. So some have been good, some have been bad.
I enjoyed Into the Into the Woods when you don't
did that one, and Wicked is fine. The books are
way better, and I know Erica hates that, but.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, well that's agree, That's ok. They're very different. They're
practically different things.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Oh yeah, I should say yes. And that's the thing,
the practically completely different things altogether, So I can accept that.
And lay Miss is a cool story. I don't need
the singing and be fine in the straight version for me.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
But yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
I'm not totally opposed to it. I just don't want
to be subjected to Rogers and Hammerstein, Gilbert and and
all of those. But Joseph and the Technicolor Ingcoat, pretty
good show. God Spell. I didn't mind that one. Obviously.
I come from a Christian musical theater background, whether or
not I am, so those are the kind of things

(16:30):
that I got exposed to. For the most part, what's
your favorite?

Speaker 4 (16:37):
What's your favorite?

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Sorry, here in my mouth, I don't think favorite, like
just a musical? Yeah, I mean also you have to
differentially one other point here animated versus live action, because
obviously the vast majority of animated movies we saw as
kids are musicals.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Mixed Disney I'll together, unless you're talking about news is
which is different.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
I think that's where all the ones I like would
be would be in the realm for the most part. Yeah,
we might have to circle back on that one. I'm
not sure if I could even name one off the
top of the dome, given how infrequently I watch these sorts.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I do have a musical. I do have two musicals.
I can tolerate, okay, like I don't actively hate and
I kind of enjoy in some regards. Cannibal the musical
is really fun to me, which I think we're watching
that for this season at some point. And the other
one that I find really interesting is Rocky Horror Picture Show.

(17:46):
That's only because you see a lot of Susan Sarandon
in her prime. To get my drifts, Oh, you're also drift.
You also get to see a lot of Tim Kurry
in his crime.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
That's a good But here's my question, justin have you
actually seen Rocky Horror, like like live with other like
Rocky Horror people.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I went to a midnight screening of the film. I
don't know if that counts or not. I've never seen
it on stage.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
No, oh no, sorry, that that's what is the film screening.
That's what I meant, not a live thing, Okay, because
if you want to buck an immersive theater experience, that
is what I think for musical that is that is
a weird group of people who like that show.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
And I saw the live show. I liked that it
was incomprehensible. I did not understand what was going on,
but it was entertaining the whole time.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I was like, why is everyone just shut up and
let me listen to the show?

Speaker 5 (18:49):
That's my That's the thing.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
I feel like the movie itself that my brain waves
like don't mesh with that movie. Not I don't connect
with it, but I do think going to if you're
gonna watch it, you might as well watch it with
the people who do connect with it, because they are
part of the show.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Like, I always thought it was fun to just watch.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
The people watching, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (19:14):
That makes it better.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
But yeah, at least once from then you don't.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Have to watch it again. Well, right, that might be
a limited h Maxy Python and the Holy Graiola. Is
that a musical? Yeah, there's like two musical numbers. I'm
not talking about the Broadway show. I mean the Richard
that Yeah, was there?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Oh yeah, all right, Josh, what's your favorite?

Speaker 5 (19:41):
I would probably say Book of Mormon versus Avenue Q.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yes, good job on Avenue?

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Is that the Muppet one?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Yeah, okay, it's really funny. Yeah, I mean I.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Always heard it. I always heard I mean, I know,
We're delicious. Sure, it's R rated. Muppets play so oh
very much.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
So just a little like Avenue Q. It's a parody
of Sesame Street and it's about this kid who just
graduated college stars in his eyes and then moves on
to Sesame Street and realizes that the real world sucks.
Like that's the whole premise. And I always describe it
as ultimately it's hilarious but ultimately depressing. And I saw

(20:29):
it at the very perfect age because I saw it
in London right after I graduated from college when and
like the lyrics are, what do you do with the
BA in English? What is my life going to be?
Four years of college, plenty of knowledge have earned me
this useless degree. And he talks about being twenty two

(20:50):
and this was me lost twenty two with an English degree,
naive as hell. And that show has stated in my
bones ever since.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
And here's the thing, Avenue Q is so little known,
which is funny because it's really a big deal. But
like my favorite, I would say is probably Wicked, though
it rotates, but Wicked is everyone knows Wicked at this point,
even if you haven't seen it, you know of it.
It's huge, making the big ariana Grande movie, and Wicked
came out the same year as Avenue Q, and Avenue

(21:25):
Q took home the Tony for Best Musical over Wicked
that year.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Really, I'm sure, I'm sure that's two thousand and two,
two thousand and four, I think, is that?

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Might be yeah, earlier than that.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was two thousand and three,
thousand and four, I think. But that's what's crazy about it.
I mean, both those shows are phenomenal, but one lasted
way longer and it's more popular ultimately. But that's not
the one that won that, Tony.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
That's what you in on a known intellectual property.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Well, yes, true, but if they if you didn't do
a great job. I mean, think about that that prequel
they did years ago, right, the the one with Yeah
I Love But that movie flopped, right, even though it
has the same basic subject matter. I mean, if it
was just based on that, it wouldn't hold legs. But
it's great music, it's a great story.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
No, but.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Just because it doesn't mean it's gonna last.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
No, it's not guaranteed. No, no, of course. All right,
Well that's where we all stand on this particular topic.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Sorry, guys, I'm gonna have to very much watch myself
this season because I talk about musical there for very years.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
We're just gonna, We're just gonna on occasion.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Let's not forget that. Tonight, we're talking about one of
the most important musicals of all time.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Right, Seminel Park in many ways, several ways.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
And I believe my good friend the Drunken Master will
be narrating this this masterpiece for us tonight.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I am going to attempt my best. It had been
quite some time, but at least for starting off with
one that I have seen at least a few times
in my life. Although fun fact, I learned that the
very first time I watched this movie, when you could
still get away with putting shit like this on YouTube
before they would catch you on infringement of rights, I

(23:27):
actually did not see the whole movie. It was a
because at that time, I believe YouTube had restrictions on time.
So the version that I saw was roughly fifteen minutes
shorter than the actual movie was.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
So you're saying, so they actually did not see the
uncut version.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
In fact, did not see bigger, longer and uncut.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
I saw slightly longer and cut. You saw the bigger,
longer and circumcised version.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
And slightly thank you for making that joke. That was
the next place I was going to go anyways, So correct,
And I do remember on that first viewing thinking there
were a few points where it was like, what just happened?
We just jumped away from something that was clearly going on,
and now we're just on the next scene. But South
Park is random enough, it didn't necessarily seem unintentional. So

(24:14):
all right, so we are getting into South Park, bigger, longer,
and uncut, written, directed, produced, hens mostly starring Trey Parker
and Matt Stone as just with the show for those
who don't know, originally on a paper thin, pun intended budget,
so everything is the same two dudes for the most part. Obviously,

(24:37):
when they got big enough to make a theatrical run,
they did have a little bit more in the way
of resources and talent going on, but it's still ninety
percent their materials.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
So I didn't realize the two of them did all
the characters.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, they're they're well my most Yeah, out of the
core characters, including supporting casts, they are like all but
two or three characters.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
So who is out of the four boys, who plays
who that.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
I don't actually know who plays which characters, to be honest, like,
I've never bothered to look that deeply. I just know
it's one of them doing every single character until like
the probably two.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, justin tredoes Stan, Matt does Kyle, Tred does Eric,
and I believe.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
It's really native voice.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
It doesn't really.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I think it's Matt, but I can't be correct, but
I think it's Matt who does Kenny.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, and then all of the I mean most of
the adults and variations of the same voice, and yeah,
I think Eldie. There's like one or two women in
the cast for some of the female parts, but it's
mostly just them speaking falsetto anyways.

Speaker 7 (25:50):
So favorite South Park character, of course, because not even
in this the typical fan.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
As they gradually turned the entire show into something about
Stan's dad over the years, rather than being about any
of the central characters.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
He's not even like in this movie barely.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I think he's like in one shot or something totally.
You can tell how much the show has evolved over
the years, because this is obviously a physical phenomenon longer
than season two or I want to say two or three,
because I remember thinking how fairly how idiotic this show
was when I was in middle school and being like,

(26:35):
this is two seasons and it's done. And then a
few years in suddenly there's a theatrical movie and I go,
this is the bursting point. It's going down after this,
And then I was soundly and resoundingly over and overproven
incorrect as it became an ever bigger and more topical
and somehow relevant. Show it to me.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
So it was even able to it's it's so funny
and it's smart. But it does shock me how far
they were able to push the bar, and that this
movie came out in nineteen ninety nine. Even that surprises me.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, I mean as apparently president a juggernaut.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yeah, the former president of the MPAA, uh like lamented
that he didn't give this movie an NC seventeen.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Well what did you give it?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
I'm glad it's.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Right it r R.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Well what's the difference.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
NC seventeen is basically just soft core porn like Showgirls
or or that's two.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Men kissing and loving each other.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Do you say that R is stronger than NC seventeen.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
No, no, no, regular Yeah. Now they don't remember NC
seventeen in theaters anymore. So what often happens is the
the if something's going to be NC seventeen, it's like
released as an unrated version or something like that, or they.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Get a list of potential modifications. They send it back
to the studio or the director whoever's going to be
in charge of the movie and be like, change these things,
you might get an R rating. So they'll judiciously go
in That famously happened to the first cut of Clerks
by Kevin Smith when he initially submitted it for rating,
they came back with an NC seventeen based almost entirely

(28:37):
on language, because there's virtually nothing else in the movie
that you could be but there's no violence, there's no
sex on screen. There's literally just so much swearing in
vulgarity that they got an NC seventeen, And then Kevin
Smith resubmitted it, according to him, with practically no modifications,
and on the second time they just said, okay, it's

(28:58):
an R.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
So so now what you can do is you can
make your initial submission so outrageous and have stuff in
it that, yeah, you don't actually intend to be so
then they tell you to make these cuts, and then
you cut that out stuff you didn't even actually want
in there, and then sometimes they surprise you.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
But it's fine, and why don't you over you over sell,
Like why does that matter?

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Because NC seventeen is is considered so prescriptive that it's
almost guaranteed to bomb that it's not going to make
money with a rating that high that it cuts down
the audience to such a small slipper that there's no
way it's going to make that its release cost, so
no one wants.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Financial financial catastrophe. Yeah, it's so funny.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
I almost think it'd be the opposite, Like if something
is so scandalous it has to be no. Seventeen under
it all that you'd be more enticed to see it.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Well, that's what colver Hoven was betting on with Show Girls,
that he could.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
With an R rated movie you can take children in
as long as they have an adult revision. Seventeen you can't.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, I just I just read that because it's funny
because you tell it why kids that much? Like what's
the difference? It doesn't mater I always actually you joked
about that.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
But sometimes it's just like themes such as like homosexual
love and there's like no violence, and.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
They're like, yeah, my grandma took me to see this,
Are you serious? Yeah, we my grandma saw together. And
if it was in seventeen when you and your.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Grandma saw a lot of your grandma sounds like she
would get awesome.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
She was awesome. She hated the film and she was
very very upset because all the anti god talk that
we get later on in the film were that one character,
like all the stuff that bothered her, those two little
lines is what made her. I read that was it?

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
That's yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Do you guys think of like, how like meta this
movie is considering, Like, oh yeah, it's subject matter.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
And very on the on the point. I mean that
was they made. They're absolutely right becoming successful.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
I mean they also they also specifically say that we
can have all the violence we want in this, but
too many swear words, and it's no.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Absolutely now the old Thing is a.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Giant, intentional metal middle finger to the entire industry and
proving their point that also, once we're making you enough money,
you don't give a ship what we do. Anyways, without
any further ado, this is South Park, bigger, longer, and uncut.

(31:38):
We enter South Park, a quaint Colorado mountain town everyone
sings about in the spirit of a Disney film. Our
main hero Stan rounds up his squad consisting of nervous
Jewish kid Kyle and his adoptive Canadian brother Ike, loudmouthed
contrary Cartman and mushmouth pavo boy Kenny to go see
Asses of Fire, a movie by their favorite Canadian comedic

(32:00):
duo Terrence and Philip. It is terrible that the boys
adopt all of the vulgar language that they can from it.
The rest of their class follow those suit and soon
the parents of South Park are badly against Terrence and
Philip on every front they can. In the aftermath of
a second viewing, Kenny dies in a tragic fart related accident.

(32:20):
But unlike the TV shows unexplained episodic resurrections of Kenny,
we learned that this time the boy is hell bound
for swearing. Meanwhile, Kyle's mother, missus Broflovsky, orchestrates the on
air arrest of Terrence and Philip, which escalates to Canada
bombing the Baldwin brothers for retaliation. War is declared.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
I will say Canada responded completely appropriately, like you're going
to take our celebrities, We're going to take your celebrities.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah, it seems a little over the top for Canada
given their their history.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
It works so well that they turned Canada into the villain.
Like I think that was like one of the most
brilliant choices that could have made about this film.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Oh yeah, there's a little people in the world.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Like there's a little known uh movie from the early
nineties called Canadian Bacon Oh, directed by Michael Moore, that
has this as a central plot point for different reasons.
But that movie is comparatively terrible.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Although I know exactly what that movie is, I've never
seen it at all.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
It's not very good.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Yeah, But before we get into that, I just want
to say really quick, I don't watch The Town of
south Park, but when I do watch it, I enjoy it.
But as I watched this, I just think like, Justin
just makes so much more sense to me. Like I
feel like south Park like raised him or something. I
don't know. I just feel like I have an insight

(33:56):
into Justin's brain. It's like it's a scary place to
be in that long But anyway, visit once in a while, Yes, exactly.
I mean even this one was a bit much for me.
I had to do a little bit.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
They were unleashed from the TV limitations.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
So the opening song, Oh sorry, what were gonna say?
The opening song? I don't know if you wrote down
the songs.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I did not.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Maybe I'll try to be better at the future. But
I did think it was charming. It was one of
those stereotypical happy opening happy day in the life song.
So this is something like people probably most well known
you know, Belle opening and the Beast like her little snobby,
condescending song about the villain.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
That's one of those many points and the Beast that
you look at in retrospect here like wait a minute,
is this happy? It kind of sounds like actually the
lead character doesn't like it, and all the other people
are like, who the fuck is that bitch?

Speaker 8 (34:56):
Anyways, there's there's literally a name that says there goes
Bell singing her daily mean song about us, you know,
and then same with like the opening of.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Sorry sending music, and then like good Morning Baltimore from Hairspray,
like that definitely cheerful, uplifting tone. This is the life
that I'm living, Oh skid row from from which is
gonna come up this season? Josh Us Exactly. It's so

(35:31):
very Yeah, that's what I thought when I saw this.
One is like typical opening number. Great job.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
It was what they were doing, which is totally appropriate.
This is just a song because mountain Town. Yeah I
was just a quiet Mountaintown but yeah, I'm out mistake in.
Nothing in the show had yet been musical, so this
was kind of I don't think so one this was

(35:57):
the one more joke of being like, oh, yeah, we
may a movie and it's a cartoon. Of course it's
going to be a musical like Disney would be. It
doesn't matter that it's our content, and like that even
by itself took me by surprise. The first time I
saw it. It was like, oh, it's really they're going
to like lean that heavily into the idea that we're
making a cartoon movie, so we're going to sing, so

(36:20):
you know, that definitely done it way more.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
It dawned on me that this probably influenced Avenue Q
to some degree because then because even the Avenue Q, right,
they the one of the composers of Avenue Q then
approach or if someone approached to but they met with
Trey Parker and Matt Stone and the three of them
did a Book of Mormon, so there's a lot of activeness.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
I knew there was some connection, thank you, Yeah that
I knew there was some link between them like that,
and yeah, that definitely I think this proof. This was
probably in a weird way of strange proof that like
we can make.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
All radiosus Robert Robert Lopez, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Book
of Mormon Avenue Q.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Hey, that's a yeah, I remember that being like kind
of the selling point to Book of Mormon. They're like
from the guys of South Park and the guy who
did a new Q Book of Mormon type of thing.
Neat neat connection.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Wait, hold on, I think I just found a quote
about it. I just read an article from twenty ten
that was about Book of Mormon. Okay, entitled Book of Mormon.
The production will be co directed by Avenue Q and
Strike the Musical as Jason Moore and South Park's Parker
okaying fun their South Park movie Okay, so this is

(37:49):
what Lopez said. It's been such a thrill to get
to work with two guys I've always admired so much,
Matt Stone and Trey Parker. Their South Park Movie musical
is beloved within the Broadway community. It was certainly one
of my biggest influences writing Avenue Q. It's been a
lot of art and a lot of last Oh yes,
so it's like one led to the other one or
the other.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I love it. I love it, ye see art inspiring
art and to the point that this was that this
was such a phenomenon. If you remember they got Robin
Williams to once again host the Oscars that year Rest
in Peace and and they had him perform some of

(38:30):
the music from this movie as part of the musical
interludes to the Oscars fully censored, so it was basically
just Robin Williams manically dancing around with just bleeps going
left and right the whole time. Oh my gosh, with
one of those once in every four years, the Oscars

(38:51):
is an interesting show. That was one of them where
it was like an interesting show again.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
I mean, I will say I did know at least
some of the connection between like Avenue Q and Book
of Mormon in South Park, but I did not know
like I this is the person I've ever watched the
South Park musical. I didn't know how old it was.
And I kind of love the idea that even though
this is a little bit too intense for me, that
it started things off and like seeing a calm full circle,

(39:18):
like I never would to pick this musical, Josh, So
I will give you credit for, you know, expanding my
horizons in this regard because it does connected the shows
that I didn't really actually love.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
So see, Josh's just making connections.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
I'm a facilitator.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Right, can we talk about the uncle Fucker song waiting?

Speaker 4 (39:40):
That's what I'm saying, justin, I was waiting for you
to come in.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
It's not so much that I like the lyrics, but
there is this moment where they do like a breakdown
and it's them fart cat dancing. Are we all remembering
the scene? That's basically how every musical sounds to me,
regardless if it's actual words or not.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
You got to include an audio clip of that right now.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Justin just for our listeners, Can you sing a little
so they know how it goes and what the worst?
I don't use such language, so I would do it otherwise.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Oh no, never, never, never from your lips?

Speaker 4 (40:27):
All right, one of you asked to sing it.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
My favorite part of that song is at the very end,
when like the music cuts off and he's like my boss.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
It feels it feels like improv. There was something else
about that song in particular. I know that's one of
them that Ron Williams performed. That might have been the
show piece of.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
The You couldn't get any lyrics in, it would be
all the Oscar.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Wait, it was the Oscar.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
The Oscars because this isn't a stage show. They wouldn't
give it a tony.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Oh yeah, you're right, Sorry, I'm just in music.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, because this got this got this got
nominated for Best Animated Picture, Best Original Song, Best Original whatever,
the other music award is like, it got it got
just enough Oscar enough attention that they're like, we can
feature this. This is enough of the zeitgists right now

(41:34):
to just make your part of the show.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
I will say though every time that's like they have
the Oscars for like the Best Animated Feature, there's not
that many. I just feel like if you made one.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Especially then back then, basically, if you made an animated feature,
you were going to get a nom yea that they
were just going to deny. They were going to not
give it to you and give it to Disney. That
was just the way it worked. Yeah, right, because I'm
pretty sure they did not give this Animated Movie of
the Year because that would be a stretch for the

(42:08):
Oscar audience at that time.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
That would have been hilarious.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Though, there's there was a there's a weird line by
Cartman that I was like, wait, this is breaking the
reality a little bit. As they're when they first get
to the theater and they're rejected by the guy selling
the tickets. And then and Cartman says something the effective
leg I didn't think we'd get in any ways, and

(42:32):
he's like, what the fuck, dude, you love Terrence and Philip.
He's like, oh yeah, but the animation is always crappy,
and it went, wait, are they are terror than Phillips
supposed to be cartoon characters in their world? They're real people?
What is what is talking about this viewing? For me

(42:52):
to go this doesn't make any sense because they're real
people in your world.

Speaker 6 (42:59):
Like that.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I wondered if that was just like an that feels
like an off the cuff line. One of them improvised
that it was funny, so they just animated it at
the end, even though it doesn't really make any sense
within the reality of their show.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
I think they were just trying to be like meta
and funny, right.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
They're definitely making fun of their own animation style.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
It is.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
I'm really impressed by the observation talent. I don't know
how many people it would have even dawned on. I
wonder if they even really got that.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah, well, I'm pointing out per half hour one thing
I have noticed, probably besides the obvious, at the very beginning,
they pulled the Indiana Jones of turning the Paramount logo
directly into a mountain and the scene, which is an
absolute Indiana Jones opening credit Hallmark. Every Indiana Jones movie

(43:49):
has to do that for some reason, even if it
turns out it's nothing but a prairie dog's hill, but
we don't talk about that. I also to deeply enjoyed
that the movie is supposed to be somehow three hours
long after that point, and.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
In no way they would have run out of part
gas way before that.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Well maybe not.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, who knows if you have enough gravy on your
poutine goes on for m oh my god.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
Yeah, And the whole thing is.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Kind of I mean, I remember even thinking watching this
the first time. This movie is meant to be relatively
approachable if you're not familiar with everything from the TV show, Like, yes,
it definitely helps, But you could watch this without deep
knowledge of the show by easily.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
But they also in order for the conceit of them
making the meta joke about censorship, they have to kind
of act like these kids aren't ridiculously foul mouthed all
the time. Anyways, Like I've been building for seasons now
of them saying horrendous stuff all the time. But for
the same of this movie to make sense, they had
to kind of retc on the reality and be like,

(45:04):
oh no, they didn't talk like that until they saw
this movie.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
That's where I got a little confused. Yeah, because I've
seen south Park but not a ton, so it's like,
is this different?

Speaker 5 (45:16):
You know, Yeah, I mean they were foul from the beginning,
but yeah, it's it's that.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
That was half the humor was just being like, oh
my fourth grader talking like that, that's enough. We don't
have to have anything else going on.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
And it was mostly fun terrific.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
But anyway, Eric, extremely stupid.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Eric, you got a news lingo from the film that
you're gonna bust out in real life slang she faced
cock master. Maybe you busted out out of your next practice.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Oh my god. There were so many things I couldn't
even hear half of itiate it. So yeah, Luckily I've
got so much newsies in my head right now that
like that that that motherfucker song, like not, there's no
space for it. So I'm not gonna be going around
public singing that and getting myself in trouble, although I

(46:07):
feel like one gentleman who's not on Bulgarest should be
showing demonstrating that song.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Don't worry. Well, well, we'll insert an a cappella cut
of it in the future before we released this.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Episode our album.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yeah, obviously we have to drop an album sooner or later.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
Might as well. I want I want piemade a sing.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
But anyways, it still feels kind of quaint that this
was considered controversial in the real world at this point,
but that's fine.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
We also we were show in then in nineties, the
internet hadn't completely ruined everything in this Can we.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Talk about how much of a time capsule this film
actually is, because like, there's so much like they make up.
We'll get to it later, but there's so many nineties
references that, like I watched it with Maddix.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Oh, he doesn't probably get half of this ship.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Max is uh he will be fourteen and July Holy.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Okay, I can't believe he's again with parental supervision.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, but there was things He's like, who's that Who's
the bad guy? And I was like, you say and
he's no, who's that, Who's Saddam? Who's saying you know?

Speaker 5 (47:21):
Oh yeah, like you even make any sense?

Speaker 6 (47:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Well it also dawned to me though too, just now
that this is before nine to eleven.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, and I.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
I thought he was an interesting choice and even more
so now. But we haven't even talked about that part yet,
like we'ven't got.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
We're getting, yeah, we'll get, except that they they referred
to the fact that he's dead does have one of
my best car one of the best Cartman's one liners
as far as I know, as little I've watched that
ever has happened when mister Garretson is trying to correct
them all on their constant using of the F word

(48:06):
and exclaims cod and you just use the F word
and Cment's response is jew, that's just it's the perfect response. Also,
that entire sequence of events is one of the most
hilarious I've forgotten. But like from the moment that last
starts till the time that they are like kicked out

(48:28):
of the principal's office is some of the best, like
five minutes of just rapid fire back and forth jokes
for as dumb quote unquote as they are, it all hits,
it hits prety well.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
It's kind of all in that South Park is going
to turn being Jewish from being relatively innoculous before it
starts in ninety seven ninety eight, and then it becomes
like it can like people will like start making fun
of Jews in really weird ways after that, because all
because Kyle and uh that kind of like playful light

(49:04):
anti scientism in a weird way.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Rather antisemitism light. Well, right, I mean, and this is
probably it's worth noting, as we said time capsule part
of what contributed to my maybe not childhood but like
youthful understanding of of anti Semitism being such a fucking

(49:26):
relic that it seemed irrelevant that like I couldn't even
comprehend that being look at how like much it was
being mocked in this show. So I'm like, obviously, nobody
actually thinks that way in the real modern world. That's
such a like pre World War two mindset. Nobody in
the world could possibly think that way anymore. What would
behold good God, But at this time, so yeah, it

(49:50):
felt it felt so ridiculous that it didn't seem it
was possible. Oh, and there was a good There was
a good line for Justin In there about the Canadian
government apologizing for Brian Adams, because oh yeah, Justin has
a particular hatred for Brian Adams.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
But you know what, we are apologized about that.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
I don't know what's funny. If this would have been
made like ten years later or something, they would have
had a much bigger, like Canadian enemy, which would have
been fantastic. It's Justin Bieber, who's way worse.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Oh, they would have gone to town. Yeah, there weren't
really any There weren't. I will say there didn't seem
to be any like giant a list celebrities from Canada
at this time, which kind of helped sell the joke
of these fictional celebrities being like.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
They could have gone for like, there weren't a lot.
I mean there was Brian Adams or Celene Deon whatever
in like Selene.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
They've thought of Selene in some episodes, but I don't
think at this time she didn't fit that they needed
their own made up narrative about Canada for the talks.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
So it's that weird to enter stitual period period between
Brian Adams and Nickelback and it kind of fell right
in that crack history.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Oh that would have been that crack of history.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
They're too easy to make fun of.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah, And honestly, I'd still rather hear every Nickelback song
than certain songs from the eighties one time.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
So whatever, it's so funny, like, I just don't I
don't think I've ever met any person that likes Nickelback,
and yet somehow they're a big band, so like, oh.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
I have, They're a giant fan base, They're out there.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
I just literally haven't met one.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
It's weird, right for them.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
One of our dishwashers at my job last year, who's
only twenty uh, would often play the entire Nickelback catalog
while they while they washed dishes. So wow, which led
me to the unfortunate conclusion that I think I actually

(51:57):
know every Nickelback song because of radio play. I've like,
no song came on their playlist that I was like,
never heard this song, I have no idea what's listen to.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
So it sounds like Kellen is a closeted Nickelback fan.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
No, but I would rather listen to them than all
of the top forty eighties pop hits that people play
all the time, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Oh, I don't count Callen is ambivalent about nickelback, but yeah, to.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Say the least.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Oh and did everybody catch the cameo in the operating room?
The only effort, by the way, we've ever seen to
save Kenny's life. He always just dies normally in the stains.
So bloody that episode. But we've got a nice graphic
bit of violence in the o R or in the er,
I should say, so bloody. And who was who is
the operating doctor in that?

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Your boy?

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (52:51):
Remember that?

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Justin Wait, who George Clooney is?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
It is George Clooney?

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Oh really?

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah, look e R is George.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
I didn't make that connections interesting.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Yeah, it's funny because like itewing for me to notice.
We're thinking, like, one, this is very early for them
to kill Kenny is the beginning of the movie. And
then two, I don't think they ever tried to save
them before.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
So yeah, but it enabled us, It enables us to
get this fantastic other.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Worldly Yeah, that's the best part of the movie.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
Rising to heaven, right and then back down to hell.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
And I want to say probably that descent to Hell
sequence with Kenny was the most expensive part of the
movie because it's like nineteen ninety nine and they're trying
to like generate demons with computer graphics. Todd McFarlane's Spawn
that came out two years prior to that, it definitely
has that aesthetic, and also that aesthetic is then borrowed

(53:52):
forward into the theatrical Constantine movie with Keanu Reeves like
years later.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
Yeah, I love the.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
We and the only one that the only song that's
completely sung by some outside voice that does nothing, And
I don't actually know if that one is Matt or
Tray doing the vocals or.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
If that's think that's an official part of the soundtrack actually.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
And then my guess is that some secret cameo by
some actual singers and something.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
But who knows.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Kenny they go with, Actually they try to save him
after his very brutal death. How does he die again?

Speaker 3 (54:36):
He tries to light a fart on fire because Cartman
says that's not possible in reality.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
Basically, But then the actual cause of death is they
accidentally in it's just instead of his heart because people
are using the.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Same Oh yeah, real medical question. How much stuff gets
left in your body.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
Using the organ microwave for food prep.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Isn't the same as forbid?

Speaker 5 (55:14):
What are you gonna ask me?

Speaker 4 (55:16):
I think that, But now I'm.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Medically this This movie gets it pretty close.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Yeah, yeah, what I liked about it, Kenny doesn't make it.
So you see his spirit floating out into like outer space,
and you see him approach heaven population of like sixteen
and you have a bunch of naked, big boobed angels

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that is apparently what their conception of heaven is. But
he doesn't get to stay there. He has to go South.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
Yeah, there's alf it says denied.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I think in the South Park universe only the Mormons
go to Heaven.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Yeah, I actually know they established that somewhere.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
That's that's like my favorite South Park.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
No, I distinctly remember that because even before I saw
Book of Mormon, I remember seeing that episode where like
somebody goes to Hell. It was like a nun or
a priest or something. It's like when I'm a holy man.
He's like, Yeah, it turns out the Mormons had it right.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
All along, where we see the Hitler and then we
see George Burns.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Yeah, I mean I wonder if itself part of the
same universe, like that they have because of that. I
don't know when that other episode came out, but I
do remember hearing about it, reading it like Stray Parker
and like Mark Stone think they is it mark Stone?

Speaker 3 (57:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
They have like a real fascinating Matt Stone. They have
a real fascination with Mormonism. I mean maybe this is
because of the whole musical they did and that you know, so.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yeah, and it's they are. They are well renowned for
more or less accurately portraying what the official doctrine of
Mormonism is, whether or not that's what people think or practice.
They are accurately representing what what the idea get.

Speaker 5 (57:27):
Those got to give those golden plates.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Do you think they're going to put soaking in the sequel.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
To a Book of Mormon. Yes, yes, I think they
are going to do that because they at that.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
I don't know what they mentioned earlier. I don't know
that was a joke, but like learning about soaking, I
don't even I don't want to be the one to
talk about because I'm so embarrassed about it, but it's
so funny. I'm weird.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
You don't sound that embarrassed. But okay, I.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Don't you sound slightly curious of anything?

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Curious I think that I was in such I don't.
I have no interest in No, but when I heard
about that, I was just nuch disbelief.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
That was the thing.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
It's like a Dutch rudder.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
You never know.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Yeah, should someone explain it?

Speaker 3 (58:22):
No, No, we'll get to that at the end. This
was also such a throwback. I literally had to literally
not that part, but overall I had to literally look
and be like, was Bill Clinton actually still the president?

Speaker 5 (58:35):
When this came out my brain?

Speaker 3 (58:37):
It was at least George it was George Bush. I
definitely did not think it was still Bill Clinton in there,
but sure was sure.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Was it definitely was, Which is ironic because, uh, like
you would think that, you know, Bush would be like
a much better like warmonger character for this.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Yeah, he makes more sense for the context of the story.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
But not there.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
Sorry, what did you say, oh Clinton was the president
because this was still before George W. Bush?

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Yeah, so who were you thinking would be about it?

Speaker 3 (59:09):
But Bush would have made Bush would have made more
sense for this story of like war.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
With Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Yeah, absolutely, being the kind of guy that he was
at that time, that was in the future, that whatever. So,
and unfortunately for south Park, they don't have nearly the
prognostic ability that that Simpsons does for just declaring everything
that's going to happen in the future by some weird virtue.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
What can you find in hell?

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Oh, and that's the next point of the next bullet
point of our narrative.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
Actually, yeah, it's down there.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Well, I mean it's it's part of the next bullet point.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Wait, justin did you have some final thoughts in the
previous Oh?

Speaker 1 (59:55):
No, I was just gonna sum up my first when
I when I watched this for the first it's been
years and years and years now, I don't think it's
probably been maybe the early two thousands was the last
time I would have watched this.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
It's probably for me too, so.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Nostalgic for that time and place in which nothing like
it's hard to conception. I's try and tell my kid this,
but like, shortly after this, you get nine to eleven,
then you get in the war in Afghanistan, the war
in Iraq, and then you get all the turmoil that
has led to our very dark presence, and it felt
so refreshing to be like, oh yeah, nineteen ninety nine

(01:00:32):
was probably the last good year before everything started to
go to We.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Were so concerned about cussing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Yeah, right. It becomes more poignant the longer time goes on,
you know. Yeah, let's not delve too deeply into that.
Steph justin thank you. Let me catch up on hell Now,

(01:01:03):
let's hold on. I'm going to do a quick read. No,
I'm not going to rearrange it. We'll just break it out.
I'm not positive if it's perfectly chronological, but it's all
part of the same act of the story. So, having
caught Cartman in an obscene song about her missus, Broflovsky
has a censoring v chip installed directly in the boy's brain.

(01:01:27):
Fed up with the way things are going, the boys
resolved to rescue their heroes and end the war before
it starts via an underground resistance Meantime, back in hell,
Satan reveals that the deaths of Terence and Philip will
usher in World War three and Armageddon. Kenny overhears this and,
in a ghostly apparitional form, goes to visit Cartman to

(01:01:48):
warn that the mortal world is in deep and imminent peril.
But back in Hell, Satan and Saddam Hussein, recently killed
by wild hogs, are engaged in an extremely toxic relationship.
The best part of the movie always best Stand decides

(01:02:09):
that he and his friends will lead the mission to
free Terrence and Philip with the help of a recommended
French child mercenary called the Mole. A massive USO show
ensues for the new recruits to the US Army, all
very tastefully done. Cartman is Cartman fails in his efforts

(01:02:31):
to turn off the alarms that surrounds and Philip.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
We'll come back to it, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Yeah, oh yeah, We're gonna have to retrace a bunch
of this.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Are you going to the end?

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Not quite now. I'm gonna still wait for it because
the last ten minutes take up a huge amount of material. Okay,
Carton fails to turn off the alarm surrounding Terrance and
Philip when Kenny appears to once again terrify Cartman, and
per usual for the series, the adults do not listen
to the last second please of the Boy is for Sanity,

(01:03:01):
and they attempt to execute Terrence and phil up On
stage live.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Okay, so a lot happens, But the best part I
think movie is the Satan Saddam relationship. I will say.
When I asked the earlier question who your favorite like
South Park character was, I was thinking of just the boys,
but then when we expanded it, I think Satan is

(01:03:29):
my favorite character because he's on more than one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Really, you don't say.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Wait, what does that mean? I don't know. He's so
like he loved, he's lonely.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
Yeah, he has a bottom, a very large bottom.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
But yeah, this is such a bizarre thing where like
he's like.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
This movie and if it made him really mad, it
seems like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
They purposely created him off.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
And they have to have he has to.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
They just make him like a horn a man who
all he wants to do is have sex with the devil,
and Satan just wants to have his feelings acknowledged and
feel validated, like the stereotypical woman who's just trying to
get some actual love from her boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Like, oh my god, I had forgotten too. Do they
do they do every real life person.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
Well actual cutout? Yeah, well at this point they were no.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
No, no, not not always, but do they always do
them as if they are quote unquote Canadians and they
just cut their head in half and just flap the jaw.
Like I've forgotten that they did that with every person
who isn't like an American character. I mean, what are
you talking.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
I don't know that they did it for every non
American character.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
Oh you mean like the No, No, I just mean.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
That every character who's a real person, they just took
a cutout and then did the Canadian treatment to their
head and just have them talk like a.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
Past He didn't know. No, No, they didn't always do that. Okay,
they may have done that early on, but like definitely,
by like season three, they were featuring characters that were not.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
We liked photos.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
There was like a Pat Robertson in an episode and
he wasn't like that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Right because well, because there doesn't seem to be any
rhyme or reason to when they use a real picture
of someone, and when they make an actual South Park version,
it's just a lott know, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
Funnier than they did it like that because he's got
he's got some great facial expressions, which.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Is the rule of it just being comedic because it
is slightly confusing that Saddam speaks the same way that
the Canadians do in terms of how he's animated, So
it just kind of seems like any character who's not
an American character, that's just the default for how they talk.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
Oh my god, you guys, I saw something that currently
when Saddam Hussein was in captivity, they forced him to watch.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
The movie on repeat.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Yeah, that seems right.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
All right, hold on, let me just read a little
bit more on this. But this is Huffington Post.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Oh, I mean that weird drag?

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
What weird?

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Well, but I saw I saw a couple of things
when I was scrolling. That's the first that came up.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
It's like, this is grossly inaccurate. But the music, Yes,
I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
I'm sure that was his reaction.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Do we want to talk about this USO show?

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Not? Hold on, Parker, a lot of other stuff. I
definitely jumped out a bunch of stuff received. Sigh.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Okay, I'm just gonna read this, Okay. Matt Stone and
Trey Parker, the creators of South Park, say that they
received a sign photograph of Saddam Hussein from US marines
charged with guarding the Iraqi dictator prior to his two
thousand and six execution, the Marines reportedly made Hussein watched
the south Park movie Bigger, Longer and Uncut repeatedly while imprisoned.

(01:07:10):
This is from the telegraph during his captivity. US Marines
for Saddam, who was executing twousand and six, to repeatedly
watch the movie south Park, Bigger, Longer, Cut, which shows
him as gay as well as the boyfriend of Satan.
He was also regularly depicted in a similar manner during
the TV series.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
And then.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
So Weird, No Go Ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Stone apparently said, We're very proud of our sign Saddam
picture and what it means. It's one of our biggest highlights.
I have been pretty good information from the Marines on
detail and Irraci. They showed sit down the movie over
and over again, which is a pretty funny thought. That's
really adding insult and injury.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
So it also completely clashes with my constructed memory of
this time and place that I was under the impression
the United States had almost nothing to do with the
capture or captivity of Hussein, given that he was summarily hanged,
right he was hanged.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
No, oh no, we definitely captured him and then we
held him and then we basically but we did not.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Enforce it two Iraqis, like, we didn't we had nothing
to do with a trial.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
No, okay, the Iraqi government tried him and they executed him.
I mean we held him them.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Yeah right right, Okay, See, I I had vaguely remember
to capture and then us being like hands off about
everything from that point out. So obviously that was incorrect.
But yeah, overall, an interesting choice for them to make.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
Creatively, sure, I mean, definitely original.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Yeah, it does. It does introduce a secondary villain so
that we can get some fun stuff at the end.
We also kept over of course, sort of somewhat on purpose.
To me, this is where I why I thought the
movie was longer, because I do feel this middle sections
a little laggy and its indulged a little bit too
much in like, hey, we thought of another one minute

(01:09:13):
song to throw in, so let's throw it in, and
they do it anyways, It's like, yes, Kyle's mom is
a Big fat Bitch is a hilarious song. I think
that one nowadays probably would just be completely cut out
because we're no longer allowed to even be that racially
insensitive to anybody. Though it's explicitly Cartman, who's explicitly that

(01:09:37):
kind of a person anyways, But I don't think we'd
get to see it and then we get the but
we do get the one that just or that Josh
alluded to earlier that during my final exams during some
year of college, I made the mistake of staying up
late to watch South Park rather than do any studying

(01:09:59):
for any of my moves coming up. Yeah. Yeah, So
during my logic exam, the entire time I was trying
to do, the writing what would Brian Boitano do was
on endless loop in the back of my brain, stopping
me from doing anything productive on the exam.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Do you remember your grade? Did you do well?

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
I'm a fairly logical person, so I think I still
squeezed like a bee olid like that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Yeah, it's so weird, Like I was watching that and
I was like that name rings a bell and like
the figures here what.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Just barely another case of like this feels like a
single stone thought that then spiraled out into a hole.
So yeah, because I did not even remember who Brian
Boitano was when this came on the screen the first time,
I'm so.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Together his purported achievements include fighting grizzly bears in the
Alps with his magical firebreath, time travel to the year
threenty ten to do battle with an evil robot king
to save humanity again, and construction of the Great Pyramids
of Egypt. Well at the same time beating up thirteenth
century Mongol emperor Kublai Khan.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
Yeah, out is Brian Boytana like in real life famous
for anything other than figure skating? Like, was there some
scandal or weird thing that came about why he was.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
So completely It seems like it seems like they would
be given this context, but there's not. Okay, just literally
a thing they came up with and it in it
plays just fine. He motivated these kids, right, He got
them the beginning of their montage to to get to

(01:11:58):
savior status. Did anybody else catch also the really weird
not that this is at all related getting back to hell,
that for some reason, Satan has a large portrait of
skeet Ulrich up in his bedroom.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Oh I didn't catch that. That's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
I like kept rewinding it because it kept being like
cropped out of the frame. But I'm like, that's a
real picture. Behind him. I need to see who is
in the portrait behind his bed, and it's Skeet Older. Sure.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
Yeah, there's there's some easter. There's some layers to this one.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
This is so nineties, so very.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
I'm like, is this a I mean, he was the
killer in Scream one? Is that a reference to that?
I don't really, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
I mean it seems like he was just a dream boat,
you know what I mean, Like, well he was.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
He was the poor man's Johnny Depp. If you couldn't
get Johnny Depp, you got you was Skeet Ulrich. There
you go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
What do you think of the beach of My family
got had a beach up on our TV, and they
tried to install it and I just kept that didn't work.
It did not work because their passwords are always the
most basic ship So I always just like, yeah, it
was always a dumb you have you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Had your own f chrip?

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
Yeah, I remember.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
I remember the the technology that the Clinton's introduced that
let you basically set censorship bars across all programming on
your television, so that like certain programs wouldn't play at
all unless you entered a pass code, originally, of course,
to protect your kids from your Cinemax account, but yeah,

(01:13:36):
the ostense ostensibly it also stop you listening to anything
foul anything after nine pm on cable TV.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
I don't think my mom knew about that, but we
didn't really have cable anyway. So yeah, well, speaking of.

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
Of that sort of kind of was a layer of
clockwork orange there. Yeah, the demonstration, right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, good, good call. I want to swear.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
Yeah. I would say you missed kind of a big
storyline in terms of I get Stan and Kyle mixed up,
but in terms of the love and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, I kind of consciously realized that towards
the end, I'm like, I'm completely sidelining the earlier.

Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
Yeah, that was like an earlier season storyline.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
It's one of the few things. Yeah, it's one of
the few things they carried on specifically from the show
that Stan has this crush on a girl named Wendy
in his class, but he projectile vomits anytime he tries
to talk to her out of nerves, and yeah, keeps
coming up in this but very conspicuously as like irrelevant
to the story going on. So I kind of omitted
it in my descriptions, assuming we'd pick it up somewhere

(01:14:51):
in here and here we are doing that. But yes, uh,
Stan is advised to seek the clearests.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
But he goes, and he goes, how do I make it?
So he asks someone I remember who, He goes, how
do you say? He goes to chef, how do I
make a girl like me? And the chef goes find
the glitterists and then he like leaves, So how old
are they?

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
Like eight?

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
So Stan, Kyle, whichever one it is, just keeps going down,
asking everyone is.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Which makes for some.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Great You're the only female here, you only want to
answer this question.

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
I love they They innocently get on the Internet and
within seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Oh yeah, are completely ruined. Yeah, as you would be,
especially back then.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
It's those Shisa films. Was that alt of us that
they were using? Like was Google even around as a
thing in ninety nine? I don't recall Google being on
the scene.

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
I think it just existed, but it didn't have like
the market dominance.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Yeah, Like it's funny because I didn't think remember the
first time I heard about Google as when I was
hanging out with Jeremy. So we were in like high
school sometime, and I remember him telling me about this
new search engine that was coming up and that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
This is not gonna be better than asked Jeeves.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Come on, yeah, And so it must have been like
two thousand, probably two thousand and one. I don't know.
We can we can google when Google was invented.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
We can google Google, and it has to tell us
the truth about itself.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
Very early the greatest though, very early on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
I believe it must have been Yahoo.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
I don't think it was nineteen ninety eight Google.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
And Yahoo was given the opportunity to buy Google out
for one hundred million.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
I heard that, yeah, and it passed.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
It went back and forth until this point. Now, like
Google just brought them for like way less than what
they were offered to buy Google for, and they're like,
we won the long game on you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
It's like it's like the Netflix Blockbuster thing.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Did they buy block Does there get the opportunity to
buy Netflix?

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
I bet? Oh, I bet they did. I'm probably they were.
They were probably the same service for a brief while.
If I was guessing. Let's see, going back to the list,
just making sure we've covered all the things. Oh, I
love the World War two propaganda reels going around America
about the war effort and signing up to fight a

(01:17:25):
Canadian obvious internment camp references referred to as happy camps,
as they obviously would have been.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
I love that they also referencing the fact that the army,
in being World War II was segregated still and the
fact that their war plan was all based around UH
segregation was really funny to me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Yeah, there's actually a good I don't have the full full,
but there was a good story from UH European theater
during that time when obviously a ton of our military
was stationed all over the world world on the Western Front,
and they had to abide by the rules of whatever

(01:18:06):
country they were in, not our country. So all the
services were integrated in the United Kingdom, and they were told,
like you all have to like live and dine and
and everything, that you were not stopping anyone from entering
anyone else's space. And our soldiers were the ones that
had to start a fucking riot about being integrated. So
that's they did well live up to it and own it.

(01:18:33):
That's the important thing. I also didn't think Soadam whosey
needed his own song, but that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Oh yeah, that was. That was a pretty good song.
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
It sounded like if I was a rich girl, right like,
it sounded like something out of the on the Road.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
Stefani No no, no, Gwani stampled it. She sampled Fiddler,
So you're wrong. Yeah, it's from Fiddler a Girl. Yeah,
because the original song is if I was a rich
man from Fiddler.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
Oh no, it goes if I was a rich man.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
No no, no no no no no no no no
no no no no no.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Oh yeah, okay, I can hear it now. Thanks.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
But honestly, I don't know that originally either. But no,
it's a great concept because Satan is son saying, listen,
I desre to be treated better. I'm not going to
put up with this anymore. And he tries to get
rid of Saddam, and Saddam says no, and he does
this big song about how he'll change and he'll get better,
and it's like, it's so funny. I don't I don't

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engage in these kind of relationships, you know, but like
I'm aware of them. I feel like a long time
ago I might have but so watching it is just like, oh,
it's cringey because you see these stories, especially a women
who are like, you know, not believing this real ship.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Like, yeah, I did think Saddam's line was I had
forgotten that one entirely until he said. It's when the
devil asks him, is it do you want to go
from behind? Because you want to pretend that I'm someone else?
And he says, you're as gigantic in bed? Who else
would I pretend you're being?

Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
Which is fair enough.

Speaker 9 (01:20:24):
Dogs, I'm going very and then Eric is taking that
America I know, Eric Acolyte basically talking about reality over here.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
This was well start with yeah, I know you're running theater.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
This everything turned off from it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:54):
That turned on.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Some. Some will be quite.

Speaker 5 (01:21:04):
With Socio.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Yeah we can get into.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
Wait wait is there anything else about I guess we
covered it's like the main potatoes of the show. That
that's the second chunk.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Yeah, that's most of the second tact.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Yeah, Windows ninety eight reference though Windows ninety eight.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Was just running, was just running the death Star plans
for the US military.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Yeah, yeah, this time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
I remembered what was going to happen. Anyways, but I
do remember the first time watching it just being like
side splitting of like they're going to do anything they want.
Now they're just like, yeah, fucking in they cat Bill
Gates for the inefficiency of windows ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
It's just.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
And then they're immediately doing the whole like not just
to segregated military, but using all of the black soldiers. Yeah,
just like like all right, all the myths, the gloves
are off, just doing anything they want. The final act
of this movie is not happy about.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
That, but it's like it's not even that they just
put them in the front. They had them wrapped around
the Oh my god, it's so bad.

Speaker 5 (01:22:21):
The show, Yeah, the USO Show. We had a performance
by Winona Ryder being funk show.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Turns out was actually much tamer than we thought.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
Yes, yes, and then was that actually one known a
writer playing herself Like I assumedy to get some kind
of premission for her.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
To do this.

Speaker 5 (01:22:44):
No, yeah, now you can make fun of other people.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
I do wonder like she could have Yeah, but could
she have sued them for slander or libel?

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
I get to make no no, because it's this is
so over the top, it's it's parody, like no one
would think that, You're like.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
Yeah, I mean sure, but isn't there something that like,
what's another one defamation or something?

Speaker 5 (01:23:14):
No, no, something that's parody.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
No. The standard is if any if would any idiot
on the run reasonably confuse this with the real one
on a writer, and I think most people would.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
I mean, it's a cartoon.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Yeah, but that's the thing, you never know. The funny
thing is that they can occasionally get celebrity voice, but
it's never going to be that person playing themselves. Whenever
they want it to be the celebrity, they were going
to do the voice for the celebrity, and then it'll
be like, oh cool, George Clooney wants to do a voice,

(01:23:49):
He's just going to be the doctor in the in
the war. He's not going to play George.

Speaker 5 (01:23:53):
George c Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Plus she wasn't funny.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Not just the fact that, like, given the reputation that
South Park has, that an obvious celebrity liberal icon like
George Clooney also was interested in being in this subversive
type of movie. He wasn't with people directly in line
with his thoughts.

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
So we get we get a ping pong show which
ends up being quite benign.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
As clipping dog yippie oh.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
Yeah, yeah yeah, and then we get Big gayl performs
though they haven't rehearsed and one of the best musical
numbers in this film. I'm super I had actually completely
forgotten this character existed.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Yeah, he definitely falls off after a few seasons.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Yeah, like mister Garrison really takes over. Like the one
gay character slid Yeah show.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
He's much more versatile as a character, where as Big
gay Al was just kind of like, yeah, we get it,
there's something. There's not a lot, we.

Speaker 5 (01:25:06):
Don't have much to offer here, man, but for.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
This shining moment, he gets to be in the spotlight.
And then he does get his own special a couple
of years later. Oh yeah on Comedy Central. Boat Show.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
There are quite a few television movies that followed this
one up, but as we discussed, since all these movies
are basically just three to four episodes anyways, you might
as well keep it to that format. But yeah, the show,
the show provides. The show provides enough of a smoke
screen to keep the boys at their subterfuse the entire time,

(01:25:44):
albeit it doesn't matter at all. They screw up everything
they're trying to do. So I also love that Cartman
is so culturally ignorant that he thinks that the Mole
is British rest in peace. The mole turns out, sorry, folks,

(01:26:07):
we forgot to mention he died right, So final bullet points.
So all out war breaks out as the Canadians launch
a surprise invasion. In the midst of the battle, Stan
receives a vision of the Cleatorus which tells him to
take the lead and bring the resistance to the parents.

(01:26:30):
So the kids of South Park rally to form a
human shield for the liberated Terrence and Philip, but Missus
Broflovsky shoots the Comedians anyways, unleashing Satan and Saddam from
the underworld. Kenny convinces Satan to break it off with
the megamoniacal Saddam, while Cartman discovers an unexpected power. His

(01:26:51):
malfunctioning be chip gives him the extraordinary ability to fight
off the former Iraqi dictator. The Devil, however, takes the
killing blow and thanks Kenny for his intervention. In return,
Kenny uses his one wish to restore the reality that
was before the war began. His face is revealed for
the first and only time as he says a fond

(01:27:12):
farewell to his friends, but his sacrifice is recognized by
the powers that be and his fate is mitigated as
he returns to the Booby Heaven and all of South
Park rejoices with a reprise of their original song.

Speaker 5 (01:27:29):
Was this this the only time they showed his face
up to this point?

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
And I believe yes, I don't think it was ever.
I don't believe they ever really showed his face or
had him speak clear There was one or two other
times he did speak clearly, but I don't think you
saw his face. And they spent the subsequent two seasons with.

Speaker 5 (01:27:49):
No Kenny Yeah, and Butter's kind of replaced him for
a while, but initially.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Hunts my handle on the first season. Afterwards, it was
Tweak who replaced.

Speaker 5 (01:28:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot about tweets and Tweak.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Tweak was one of my favorite characters of all time,
and I was very disappointed when he got he got
voted off the Island because they very much turned it
into a reality TV show riff. You have to you
have to earn your spot with the Core four, and
Tweak at it for one year and then was voted
out and Butters replaced him.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Butter is becoming a pit though, I get I get.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
The transition, and they've definitely used him to the hilt
since then, also notably after two so it would have
been the like seventh season, probably out of the blue
and apropos of nothing Ken he simply reappears and no
one says a word about it, and then he's just
back for the rest of the show. And I remember

(01:28:53):
that hardly ever dies. I think I think like three
seasons later he dies once and then comes back per
normal and then subvert those expectations after Yeah, literally weird.
Literally Sanders turns and goes, oh hey, Kenny, what have
you been doing? And he's like, They're like, all right, cool,
and then he's just back in part of the group again,
and they never reference anything else that's happened.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
I should have also mentioned that, obviously Kyle has to
eventually stand up to his mother pers the urgings of
all of his friends, but yes, whatever's.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
That's where Josh's Lyne comes in, where she says it's
much better to have a lot of violence and to
have people say naughty words, and that Friends is the
crux of the show, of the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
The end of a mirror in society, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 5 (01:29:46):
And it's yeah, it's still going on, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
So do we have any final thoughts on south Park? Bigger, Longer,
and uncut?

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
To quote the great to quote the great Chinese philosopher
Zuang Zau quote, consider the children innocent yet curious, get
curious encountering the complexities of resistance through this movie. Like
the butterfly emerging from its cocoon, they must navigate the
intricacies of the world, facing both light and darkness. I

(01:30:17):
give this film ten stones out of ten. Oh wow, wow, Yeah.
By the musical he likes not like south Park.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
They happened to you'll excuse yea happen.

Speaker 5 (01:30:34):
South Park, Bigger, Longer, and Uncut sores to Dizzey Heights,
and as it falls into the pits of Hell, it
sticks the landing. Okay, fewer movie musicals can claim it's
better than this one. I would say that, aside from
some minor dragging in the middle slash last act, this

(01:30:55):
morning is down near perfect and has me feeling super
rating nine stones out of ten. And we don't have
any poetry this year, because if you really think about it,
songs are poems put to music. So I'm probably gonna

(01:31:15):
regret this, but for this season, I'm going to be
karaoke singing my favorite song from the from the musical
that we watch, so.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
I love it. I'm in support of this.

Speaker 10 (01:31:31):
Sometimes I think when I look up real high, that
there is such a big world out there, I'd like
to give it a try. But then I sink because

(01:31:52):
it's here I'm supposed to stay, but I get so
lonely down here.

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
Tell me, why does it have to be that way?

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Up there?

Speaker 5 (01:32:07):
There is so much room where.

Speaker 11 (01:32:10):
Babies burping, flowers bloom, everyone dreams.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
I can dream too.

Speaker 11 (01:32:18):
Up there, up where the sky's are ocean blue, I
could be safe and live without a care.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
Up baby, Yay, yay.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
This is why Erica doesn't get the fucking party.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
Yes, Josh's MVP this episode. All right, you know what, Josh,
you established something here. I cannot participate in this particular
episode because a lot of it did not stay with me.

Speaker 5 (01:32:57):
But I'll get your one. Yeah we can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
Oh my god, Yes, we're producing so much art.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
I remember when me and Alex put in to do
karaoke at Lefty's lounge once and we're gonna do We're
gonna do all I want for Christmas front Teeth and
they didn't pay us.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
That boggles the mind, truly.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
I'm just I'm just trying to envision would like to
go to I don't eat. I never want to go
to bars in general, but like, I never go to
bars in Cold Water. That's just weird to me.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
They're not missing much.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
We'll go together sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:33:49):
In fact, I'm gonna say, you're missing nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
We'll do it live. We'll do it live cast. The
first time we do a live cast, it will be
from a bar in Cold Water. Thoughts you're next, You're
gonna defer yet again? Or go.

Speaker 4 (01:34:04):
Fine, I'll go. It's so weird. I know this is
a musical, but I just feel like it's sort of
in its own little island because, as Justin noted, it's
South Park. It is an extended South Park episode with
music in it. So it's just my brain is still
not quite putting it in the same thing. I'll give
it a seven, though. I think it's very smart, it's

(01:34:26):
very clever. Yeah, you know, it's it's just hard because
I feel like having it be the first of the
season is going to be strange because it sets a
bar for the other real quotation mark, you know, musicals.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
So maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
We'll see yeah, but okay, sure we'll go with seven.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
I thought it was smart, and I like the the
statan in Saddam relationship. It's super weird, and yeah, I
thought the concept is funny.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
Yeah. Are those relationship goals for you, Erica.

Speaker 4 (01:35:03):
I'm hoping one can help.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
Maybe here you go.

Speaker 5 (01:35:09):
Oh yeah, I said, nine out of ten?

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
Oh he did. Are we just doing numbers?

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
We're not.

Speaker 7 (01:35:14):
You're not giving like, all right, I'm gonna get I
gave it nine objects out of ten units.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
I'm gonna go with seven out of ten tonys.

Speaker 5 (01:35:26):
Okay, all right, Erica.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
I like how you're like me and my friends are
going to come up with a scale and you guys
never came up with a scale.

Speaker 6 (01:35:35):
I gave.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
I gave suggestions for the scale, but there objected.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
I'm going to go to a throwback, not a full
fledged song, but we are going to go to a
rap by one of the most universally esteemed and acclaimed
hip hop groups that has ever graced the Western world.
I am, of course, referring to win Biscuit, which perfectly

(01:36:05):
encapsulates the thoughts about this movie. It's a fucked up
world in a fucked up place. Everybody's judged by the
fucked up face, fucked up dreams, fucked up life, a
fucked up kid with a fucked up knife, fucked up
moms and fucked up dads. It's a fucked up cop
with a fucked up badge, fucked up job of fucked

(01:36:26):
up pay, and a fucked up boss. That's a fucked
up day, fucked up press with fucked up lies, while
lethal's in the back with the fucked up eyes.

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
So now our podcast has become NC seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
And that is the intent to try to match as
many as possible with this movie's content, and also a
bit of commentary about the world that the south Park
kids live in, Isn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:52):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (01:36:53):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
Unsurprisingly, I did love this movie because it helped me
get over or my stigma against what I thought was
the stupidity of south Park and realized how smart it
can be as especially as a matured. It's worth saying
I probably only saw like or three two or three
episodes of this show before I saw this movie, so

(01:37:16):
I didn't have a ton of context other than who
the characters were and like what the basis of the
idea was. So this movie kind of changed my perspective
on that. And aside from that, it's still obviously pretty
well constructed movie, despite as noted, some lagging in certain
parts and probably a deplorable excess of songs even for

(01:37:37):
a musical. I think there's like fourteen songs in this
fucking movie and it's an hour and twenty minutes long.
But that being sad, even if they're not memorable, they're
fun for the moment, and therefore I'm going to also
give this nine units out of ten units to be determined.

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
All right, as an aside, justin you have every single
CD from Limp Biscuit, right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
Yeah, Chocolate Chocolate Star all the way through the bottom
of Flavored Water is still that's what this is?

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
Awful? Yeah, that's that's.

Speaker 6 (01:38:15):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
The average for this film is eight point nine or
eight point seventy five mean, the mean is nine and
the mode is nine.

Speaker 5 (01:38:26):
So there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
What is the mode?

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
The mode is the most common one.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
Right, Yeah, it's also like the mom it's also like
the most useless of the.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
Yeats, right, yeah, I remember learning the stuff and actually doingdence.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
Interval mode is useful.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Modes useful when you're trying to figure out because sometimes
average pay distorts it because you can have really high
people raising it up motive actually I think you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Mode actually allows you to get a clear sense of
what actual people kind of are actually getting across.

Speaker 5 (01:39:11):
A different I will say in like I never studies,
like I never see the mode used.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
Yeah, yeah, but the mean is average, right, isn't it
the same thing?

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
And then but.

Speaker 4 (01:39:24):
Yeah, I think median.

Speaker 5 (01:39:28):
Median is the middle value of all of all the range,
like the over it's just the average value.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Yeah, hey, look at all of us. We apparently chipped
science at some point.

Speaker 5 (01:39:39):
Like if you have if you have like nine out
of ten values that are like between one and ten,
but then you have one value that's like five thousand,
your your mean is.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
Going to be something stupid and useless.

Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
It's going to be really high. But like if your
median is going to be closer to where all the
other numbers are ittill lot great. It depends on your
data set, like which one is actually most useful.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
Chime in. Tell us what we're wrong about.

Speaker 5 (01:40:07):
I've rarely ever seen the mode you Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:40:14):
OK.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
One two, three bits of poems.

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
It's dank, straight up