The Heavenly Mandate Halloween Special - Basket Case (1982)

Harken! The mountain's four wise men/women left the summit to discuss Frank Henenlotter's Basket Case! Released in 1982, the film stars Kevin Van Hentenryck, Terri Susan Smith, Beverly Bonner, and many others. It was filmed in the United States and was distributed by Analysis Film Releasing Corporation (and numerous others)! Enjoy your bi-weekly trip to Shaolin.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everybody. This is justin the hoary Urchin and before
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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special someone Eric has been looking for. Without further ado,
onto the show.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Welcome to the Heavily Mandates. We have descended from our
mountain abode, momentarily forsaking our Kung fu studies to bestow
our unique perspective on films to the beleaguerated wretched people
of the earth. I am justin your favorite crypt crypt
keeping Cellar Feller enjoining to me day is the killer
Comrade himself, Kellen. How are you doing for me?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh man? Apparently I'm taking it back by our rebranding
that I.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Did not know.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Touche killer cop.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I would. I would say I have a certain amount
of enthusiasm about being here today, although well we'll see
what exactly the nature of that enthusiasm is.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Kevin's in the shadows right now. He looks like a silhouette.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
It's mood lighting.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, I've got that, but I've got that. JJ Abrams
Lens Flair going up, see.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
The Flair Live for the Flair. Josh the creepy Crusader
is here. How bulls that do?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
I'm feeling sleazy and sloppy? Man? How are you?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, sleazy and sloppy. Nice like a night I totally
blanked out there. Never mind, I'll just move on.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
You got lost in an image? Yeah, this was this
was your This was your glitch in the matrix.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Ok, hok hole. Right now, Erica the eerie Enabler is here.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
You can usually find her selling potions and peddling candy
corn behind the Nova Mall and Noba Michigan. How are
you doing, Erica?

Speaker 6 (02:44):
Oh, I am a bottle of fun. I don't know,
a bag of fun. There we go, a Halloween candy
bag of fun.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
I don't know. I'm in a mood.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Today, you're a You're a bag of caramel covered apples
with razor blades in them.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
I get that all the time. I think, I like
that description.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
All right, you are a living urban legend.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I like that. We are excited to bring you all
a very special Halloween episode. Turn off the so, turn
off the lights, lock the doors, and prepare for a
mountain of murder, mayhem, and madness as we review nineteen
eighty two low budget orror film basket Case was a

(03:41):
low budget Yeah, three five thousand dollars, right.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
What is that in today's money?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well, don't don't ruin one of my talking points.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'm sorry, we'll say it, We'll save it.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I did, I did a lot. I did the math
budget on this episode.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
So math budget.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
That's like my favorite saying I don't have any math
budget left because I'm like, I'm a smart person who
really bucks up math a lot. I gotta tell you,
it's like embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
To be smart and also suck at math too. It's cool,
it's good.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
I mean, I'm like, I did Calculus. I technically passed
the exam, but like the ape exam. But then I'm like,
sometimes when I have to do mental math on the Spy.
I hate it, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Like the furthest from calculus that you can come up with.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
So I asked me to like find the derivative of
a concave sign or something, and then I'll be.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Like, yeah, I can do that.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Don't worry, I've got that.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
But when I learned about the math budget thing, I'm like,
I'm putting that in my pocket along with I'm an
English major, don't worry about it.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
You know that should be a T shirt.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
This is frank hinnen Latter's dictorial to debut. He gave
us such classics as Brain Damage and Franken Hooker and
three sequels, so this is very two scules is very movie.
It stars Kevin Van Hint and Rich I believe he's

(05:27):
a native of Oak Park, Michigan, which is where Erica
hangs out after dark. The stars Terry, Susan Smith, and
Beverly Bonner, all actresses and actors who had long story
careers else he was in the sequels. I would like

(05:50):
to give a special shout out to TB so please
sponsor us to Be and the Museum of Modern Art
for presenting in restoring the film for us. We're all
gonna tork and celebrate. Let's start working. Eric's doing a
really great job, Kellen dropping it low very nice before

(06:13):
we began, what's your go to horror film for the holiday?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Like?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
What ship is your timbers? What clitches your buttle other
than this one? Yeah? What's your go to Halloween or
Halloween film that you return to every year?

Speaker 6 (06:28):
I don't think it works that way for Halloween movies, Like,
I feel like it's not a Christmas movie where you
like feel good, like they scary movies are sucressful, right,
and there's usually like an element of like surprise, right,
So it's like, once that's over, you don't go, oh,
I want to watch that person get slaughtered again. I mean,
I guess some people do. But that being said, I

(06:50):
suppose you can guess one of mine.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
If I had to have.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
A horror movie, Watcher in the Woods has to be,
you know, after chopping Mall, maybe.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Yeah, after chopping mom.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
I when I learned about the term elevated horror, I
was like, oh my gosh, exactly like I am a
horror movie snub. Like I I like them, but they're
they're scary and they're stressful. So if I'm going to
invest that time and energy into this, I want the
story to be compelling and I want it to be
worth it.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
So young with this one.

Speaker 8 (07:30):
The wrong podcast, and I know, I yeah, I know, right.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Well, maybe the next season we'll do like part two
of the horror movies, but like we'll call them good.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
Horror movies, So we'll do like.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
The Witch and Midsummer But actually, I think probably my favorite,
if you can include a series, is uh the Haunting
of the Haunting of Hill House.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
No series?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, the one that just was like two
years ago.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, that was a good series. Definitely, right, yep.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
And I'd like all of the series, but I do
think the original is the best one.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
You guys remember Alien Autopsy?

Speaker 9 (08:08):
Oh yeah, the Fox, Yeah, I remember that, like twenty
years ago, were marketing as this real documentary.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
God yeah, gosh, what about you?

Speaker 4 (08:22):
If you're going I don't have a I don't necessarily
a go to, you know. I I'd like watching something
new every year. So what are we on Faces of
Death seven?

Speaker 1 (08:42):
You got one?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Well, I believe my reputation precedes me, and it's well, no,
I don't really care about this genre at all, so
I don't watch anything routinely. Therefore, my preference is just
really cheeseball horror that I can ms T three K

(09:06):
two is anything Mystery Science Theater three thousand, like the
Puppets talking and riffing on how stupid the movie is,
like what we do? Yeah, lot kind of but live.
So yeah, I was pretty well set up to do
this podcast, it turns out by that since age seven.

(09:29):
But yeah, all the classic Slashers, I'm always gained for
the holy Trinity of Jason, Freddie and Michael. Those are always.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Hilarious, especially when they're all together.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, waiting for that. We're waiting for that crossover. Still,
he got to you in all seriousness, I know I've
already mentioned it probably on some prior cast. I've only
watched the second one once, but the Scare Package anthologies
are primo beautiful horror parody, just lampooning the shit out

(10:04):
of it. But it's so wild and all over the
place that it's enjoyable every five minutes.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
So I've never heard of that.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
It's I think it's by What's justin? What's that horror Shutter?
I think it's by Shutter TV. It's just as of
yet two films as far as I know, that are
nominally in anthology, except they're not really in anthology. It's
actually a meta story that is connecting a bunch of

(10:34):
interior small stories that make fun of different horror genres
and movies. But they're all linked together in a sort
of Kevin Smith way of like. It's very hard. It's
a pretty much impossible type of film to describe. You
just have to look up scare package and go in
with blinders on and see.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
What happens, all right, justin I end up watching Evil Dead,
the Evil Dead series pretty much every year for Halloween.
Have you seen you?

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Also? I watched Watch one and three.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Three in the in the past, right, Yeah, I usually
watch one or two.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
You remember actually seen two?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I should watch it?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well. Two is just a comedic remaking of number one,
So it's kind of confusing because it's not really a
second part.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, it's totally very strange.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
They are all very strange, for sure.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
But I read the other day that the Coen Brothers
were the editors on the original Evil Dead.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Really.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah. I also watch a movie called Tucker and Dale
Versus Evil Have you seen that one?

Speaker 4 (11:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
If you liked Cabin in the Woods, I think you'll
like Tucker and Dale.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Versus Evil had like, yeah, I had a weird meta
impression of what it might be, So that sounds right.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
You know what? Justin I feel like I would watch
Cabin in the Woods again.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Like that could be like my feel good movie, but
because I feel like that one has more to offer
well when you watch it multiple.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
Times, right, yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
You could like read the rest of that board and
you can like watch all those monsters in the end,
like you could see it with like knowing the end,
And I'd watch that again.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, I agree. I mean I've seen it with.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
The Haunting of Hillhouse. Once you know, I guess any
of those horror movies. Once you know what the idea is,
it's fun to rewatch.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Oh, it's very nice. Thank you all for sharing that
and watch these movies. Okay, are you ready to discuss
the film?

Speaker 6 (12:48):
Yes, I'm going to open and say, let's peel open
this basket.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah, I did not watch this film. I wasn't supposed
to be here.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Today, so she's not even supposed to.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Oh what I should do?

Speaker 6 (13:05):
I should keep my mouth shut and act like I
watched it the whole time, but no watched.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
The wrong movie and kept out to the podcast.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
So yeah, I think I'm going to go from an
outside perspective and see if I have any idea if I.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Can get a picture of what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
No idea what it is then, and then you need
to google or talking about because.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
That is something that's an interesting approach.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
The film starts with the murder of doctor Julius or
left Lander, outside of his beautiful upstate New York home.
It's a nice little kill to get the juices flown
before we cut to beautiful, classy, early nineteen eighties New
York City where.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
We wants I'm assaying.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, New York City is a cess pit of drug dealers,
porno shops and other kinds of prostitutes and sundry griff raft.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
It's only twenty five cents for a live show.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, you can see some titty for twenty five cents.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
It seems like it wasn't even that much back then.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Those places always truck me as they have to be
just nasty. Twenty five cents you get to go in
to a booth, watch ladies dance and just jerk off furtively.
That's nasty.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, Petri dish. They put towels down. I mean it's fine.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
It probably smells like chlorine bleach and semen constantly in
this place.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, I mean that's why you you don't go in
with any other assumption.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
I feel like Justin would still participate, though, Like I
don't feel like I would stop him.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
I feel like it's it's it's very reminiscent of that
scene in Oh Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
That's the the shoot Dump. Yeah, that's that's exactly what
we're talking about. To quote to quote Conner, it's a
scumbag yard sale. This is.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
No I've never been to a NWDI booth. I'd be
too nervous, I think.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
I think you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I feel like I would be very very anxious.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
So Times Square looks a lot different nowadays for our
listeners who may not have been to New York City.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Thanks Juliani.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I think where this uh, where this strip club is currently?
Uh it's an eminem.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Store candy, not the rapper.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
I had to think about that for a minute, Like
I didn't know he had his own merch.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Like, FYI, if you're in Times Squirreen, you have to
take a piss. There is a bathroom in eminem story
you can use or if you got to take a dump.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
We watch Dwayne Bradley newly arrived carrying a locked wicker basket,
flashing a ton of money, and checking into a CD
hotel full of drunks, rousedabouts, and hookers with hearts of gold.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
The first guy he meets is hilarious. The drug dealer
a thing for sale.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I know, he's like, I got women, I got morphine,
I got drugs, I got lows, like you know everything.
I love that it's American capitalism. Before turning in for
the night, we watched Dwayne feed a bag of burger
Hamburgers to whatever lives inside the basket. Whatever it is,

(16:39):
it's a cute little burger boy. And uh, they communicate telepathically,
or or so we're.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Led to believe. We don't actually know if this is true.
As the as the film begins.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Erica, what do you think is inside the basket?

Speaker 5 (16:53):
The first image came to I was at gremlin.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
M yep, I'm not wrong about that general question.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Pretty close, Okay, do you.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Think the hotel Braslin has bed bugs?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
The bed bugs in this hotel have already been eaten
by weirder bugs. You don't know though, as long as
as long as we're on that category, anybody here actually
experienced bed bugs. It's fucking.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
And Callan is the one that's like, let me tell
your story.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
When I was when I was overseas last year transpired
that I encountered that for the first time. Where is
uh in Wales?

Speaker 5 (17:38):
Really?

Speaker 4 (17:39):
I mean they're all like at.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
A hostel or some random you met or what.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
That he met.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Someone just handed me a handful of something. I was like,
I'll take those.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Pants.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
No, but seriously, was it like is it like a hostel?

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Was that just you know, I don't mind like calling
out at at Mary's at Saint Mary's hostel in Wales,
they should take better care of whatever they have.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
Did you know that like when you were there, like
after you left or what?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oh no, not until I was like done staying there
and I was like, what are what's this? What's going on?
I went, oh, God, damn it, I know exactly what
this is.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Well, what did you do?

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Took a lot of hydricord a zone and benadryl pills
for the rest of the trip.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
But like you're closing steps is it can use.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
They don't.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
They don't get into anything like that. They don't. They
don't travel there, they don't. They strictly, no, they strictly
they're not like well even fleas don't travel with humans
because they need more hair to like live in. Now,
they just bite you while you're present and then they
abandon and run away.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
So but I thought that like when places have like
a bedbug.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
Infestation, like they have to like get rid of everything,
like it's a big you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Like well on site, yeah, right right, but like they
don't trap, they don't, they don't jump into your ship
and stuff. They just stay where they are until someone
kills them.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
You think. Do you think the bed bugs had a
blood orgy with Kellen's blood?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, blood orgy presumably.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
So I just remember that when I was in Spain,
I think it was in San Sebastian, staying at this hostel,
and I went out to the beach with some girls
of the hostel and they were meeting up with her
boyfriend and his friends. And she was telling me that
like the guys, these guys had spent like a thousand
dollars and they bought this van off of someone online,
and so they were driving this van and they found

(19:34):
out it was infested.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
With bedbugs, and then they all showed up at the
beach and I was just like, get the fuck away
from it, do you know what I mean? Like this
was like an ongoing situation.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
As long as you didn't go in their van, you
would have been fine, which probably you shouldn't go in
their van anyways.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
That's just a solid traveler, got one last kidney.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
A lot of bites, don't Yeah, a lot of bikes.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, I imagine the betting in this hotel is at
least musty.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I mean, but that's the thing, Like, is it even
a hotel? It doesn't appear to be. It seems more
like it's a bedsit or like just a flophouse.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
It's not kind of like it's like their permanent residence.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Almost.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, it does seem like it has a lot of
turnover per se. But just to rewind back to the
opening kill scene, which definitely gave me flashbacks to our
own not even student film of Hybrid, this really sets
the tone for what the bar is going to be

(20:38):
on of just someone yelling something and then cut the
static shot of something else and then something else and
then weird sound effect that sounds like someone maybe on
roller skates on a wooden floor elsewhere, And this is
our strange feedback glupe that's supposed to build tension and horror.

(21:00):
Also pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I love that they tied a string to one of
the trees and they were just pulling on the string
to make.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
I love. I love the fact that the phone line
is pretty obviously just a like clothes line that they're like,
we're going to say, that's the phone line. The lack
of urgency in the doctor's part in getting his message
out over the phone line anyways means it probably wasn't
going to work, like he didn't really seem to care
all that much. He also he also warns to shoot

(21:35):
and then pursues to shoot every single bullet that he
has into walls without any effort to any sort of
a target. So we know where everything is going until
we get to the weird yeah, the Times Square scene
where all these other things happen. It's also apparently very
normal for the residents of a hotel or a possible

(21:58):
apartment building to just gather in the lobby at night
and have weird discussions about and sort of interrogate anyone
who comes in the door. I feel like the person
that wrote this wasn't quite clear on like the difference
between a tenement building and a hotel and like a ghetto.

(22:20):
Like they just kind of married all of their vague
impressions of what New York City might be into one thing,
so we get this this very strange, very strange initial impression,
despite it being shot in Times Square at the time.
Oh and thank you, thank you, weird lady in the

(22:40):
stairwell for a complete exposition dump on a baby rich
heiress that has nothing to do with anything that will
happen in this entire movie. Thanks for that. Three minutes
you call that that's that's Chekhov's heiress. That's the opposite
of Chekhov's gun. It's just introduced and then you just

(23:01):
let it ride and you don't talk about it ever again.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Erica, at this stage of the narrative, are you intrigued
to watch the movie?

Speaker 5 (23:10):
Hmm, it's a good us.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Is it catching your attention?

Speaker 6 (23:13):
Yeah, I'm getting a picture.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
I don't know if it's I need.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
I would want to imagine Ronnie.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, I'm not imagine.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
I mean it.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
Seems like we're in a pretty gross part of the world.
But I'm by Gizmo the Gremlin.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
It's dank in there, like Hamburgers the moist room.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Its very loudly, very and they can communicate apparently maybe telepathically.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
But also there's some question because there was one line
in this that, because I only knew a little bit
going into this, where Dwayne says, are you going to
pace the floor all night? Where I went, wait a minute,
is this purely delusional? Because obviously whatever is in that
basket is not pacing the floor, So it's all of

(24:10):
this just a projection of his psychology, like he can't
do differentiate something. So for a brief moment, I thought,
perhaps there is more to this besides really easily obtained
stock footage of the New York City skyline the worst
line reads I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
But I watched this with Jana and one of her
first comments was like, I don't think I like this.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
I really want to be I feel like Jenna's very
specific idea.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Of Max Mac did not. I told him, I asked
him if you wanted to watch it. He had no
interest in watching. He doesn't he doesn't trust my movie
picking ability very he's been burned too many times.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
I bet he loved Watch in the Woods though, and
was like, I'm gonna trust ericas picks.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, he didn't like that. He didn't like the idea.
That idea either Erica. The next day, Dwayne in his
basket visit the office of doctor Harold Needelman, one of
the higher rated doctors in New York City, one of many.
I'm sure it looked like he was. His doctor's office

(25:29):
was just like some spare room, Like it didn't even
look like a real office.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
No, I mean they didn't have access. This is obviously
all shot in the hotel, and they just changed the set,
dressing occasions.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
The office very very dank.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
The kind of doctor you'd go and visit if you wanted.
Like Oxicon on the low, you know what I mean.
He's not gonna ask questions. He's gonna give you unique
because that's how he makes his nut.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Absolutely. I mean, if you look at him, yeah, you
can tell.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
The secretary Sharon aggressively starts to knack on this pretty
young boy and they organize a date for the next day.
She's coming on quite hardy.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Is that her name?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Does she Sharon, Yeah, Sharon, Yeah, Sharon, don't.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Forget her first interaction is a lengthy description of a
typewriter malfunction, which is a fantastic way to kick off
any relationship you plan to develop.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
You wrote a film with crazy intense eyes. Her eyes
are so big and so wild and so intense in
these scenes. I'm like, this bitch is going to kill
someone by the.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
One would hope? I mean because as to say her,
her efforts are incommensurate to the interest or motivation of
what's going on in this Are you is working in
this office so bad? Are you this hard up? That
the guy you thought might be a typewriter mechanic? You're like,
that's it, that's him magic.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Josh. On the Sharon scale, how does she rate.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
On the Sharon scale? She's gotta get done.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
But I thought you said sharing scale.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
I was like, what are we sharing?

Speaker 4 (27:27):
On some other scales, it might be a little weird
for the secretary of the doctor's office to try to
pick you up.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Doctor Needleman examines Duwayne and notices a car running down
the young man's side. He also learned about the death
of his former colleague, doctor Liftlander, worried about the implication.
Needleman calls his other colleague, doctor Judith Cutter, who is
busy deducing a much younger man Erica style.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
She's saucing him out, thinking I'm.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Way drunk, she's way aggressive.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
She knows my moves.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
She was supposed to be going on. That was it
was that much of a charing shift.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
At one point, she says something to the effect of,
don't worry about drinking. I like it when you drool.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
She's telling young are these boys she looks at forties
in the eighties, you can tell.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
You can't tell how old anybody is.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, kind of understand drooling at what age?

Speaker 4 (28:37):
People that look like their forties in their forties in
the eighties were in their twenties, right, and teenagers. This
person that she's seducing is probably eight.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
It's so true though, right, Like I remember like when
we were watching like shows growing up, and then you've
got this like Nuclear Family or whatever, this like sitcom,
and you're like, god, that's they're so like old when
you're a kid, and then when you grow up, like
they're in their thirties and you're like, am I old?

Speaker 5 (29:10):
No?

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Yeah, But like people like it's not old like they were.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
It's different.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
No, it's weird.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
It's very weird. You're not you're not old George burnstyle.
But you're getting up there.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
My grandma said.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
My grandma used to say that, like women had to
cut their hair after they turned thirty, like they shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Like we had like an old and older person haircut.
You've had to adhere to.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
Yeah, and in my thirties, I mean now I'm forty,
but like a new forty.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
But my hair as long as it's ever been.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
You know. Turns out no one was actually paying attention
to that rule because I.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
You know, didn't have to. I'm still Yeah, I didn't
get smited or.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Anything, well smitten.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
There's a number of changing standards over the last thirty
five years that have allowed some of these things to happen, thankfully.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
It's like his hair, I mean, yeah, same, he reached.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
A certain age and it's like, uh uh.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Can't pass anymore. So yeah, so this, I mean, this
scene is really where it comes, or this series of scenes.
First of all, we have to establish that Needleman is
in and of himself a terrible doctor. We need to
have two minutes of a patient saying how he was

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or how she was prescribed the wrong medication to which
she was allergic, just to establish that this doctor is
in and of his own self and terrible, which is important.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Practice is out of a closet.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Does that also looks like he works in a porn theater? Yeah,
and like yeah, the co over, like the whole whole
nine yards. These scenes are especially I found I would
have coined them as Room esque. They are. These scenes

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are reminiscent of Tommy Wisso's The Room as far as
execution and line deliveries and editing and confusion of tone,
like everything about it Screenen's we're not sure what we're
trying to do with these scenes. Really, we're just we're
just recording things, and this is what's happening, and it'll
be part of a movie probably someday. Maybe that's kind

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of the vibe that this entire strain of events gives,
including the wonderful Dwayne of like, oh my name is
Dwayne Bradley. Pause, Oh, I mean, but don't tell but
don't tell him that I want it to be a surprise.

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Say it's Smith awkward pause continues got him no one,
And thank god, Sharon is so imperceptive. None of that
seemed weird, all normal interaction. That's a normal way to
go about meeting an old friend who also doesn't seem

(32:22):
to recognize him regardless, so it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
It turns out here's one of Mahan's top actors.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
So many patients.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
But also, let's also give plaudits to Sharon's deeply aggressive
New York tourism agent. Like the level of seeming offense
she takes that Dwayne hasn't seen any of the major
sites of New York City empire.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
I think it.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Outweighs her horniness for him. She's actually genuinely pissed off
that he has not done any New York things. She's
more angry about that than she is ready to jump in.
You think this is her, It might be.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
It kind of feels like kicking up newbies, like new.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Guys in the reception line, and then she like hits
on him, and then when it doesn't work, she aggressively
accuses them of not enjoying the city until they ask
her out.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, Erica, you might be learning a new trick or too,
if you watch the film.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Yeah, thinking about it, my food were getting rusty. We have,
but we have so many tourists here.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
You haven't seen the Renaissance Center.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Joy, We're going to the Renaissance Center right now.

Speaker 10 (33:45):
It's ill you haven't been to you to.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Take me out there tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Doctor need Needleman calls his other colleague, doctor Judahs Cutter
and warns her about what just happened. She she ignores it.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
So yeah, she's she definitely does not give one fuck.
And the difference of delivery, the difference of delivery between
doctor Needleman and doctor Cutter is a study in contrast.
We shall say the level of I would say neither
of them are actually acting, but the level of the

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level of difference in in energy they put into it is.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
She's secretly focused on the dick, so she ignores everything else.
And later after dark, Dwayne returns, unleashes the creature living
inside the basket, and the monster goes upstairs, kills the
doctor and gets all up the needle Meyer's gut Needlman's guts.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
So are we're talking about gizmo?

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yeah, gizmo Yeah, yeah for these Yeah, looks like uh
we might yeah, he's revealed at this point, so yeah,
those words cannot really describe.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Well, I have my words to describe it would be
premature revelation.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
But yeah, what kind of shoot your load really quick?

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah, it's very quick.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Load, premature ejaculation.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
All over the place, all over the leg and not
even close to where you need to go.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, you're like, you're like slobbering all over somebody's tie,
a little bit of slo Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
Yeah, okay, what are other ways you would use to
describe this?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Do you want to see a picture because I posted
a picture?

Speaker 5 (35:49):
Imagine?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
No? No, no, no, no, hold on, okay, no, I think
she needs to go a little bit deeper into the
movie before.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah, they the reveal is way too early.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Also, did we wait, did we skip the theater scene
because that's classically not always?

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Oh we did? Yeah yeah, yeah, because it's not that important.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
It's not, but it's important to point out how padded
out this fucking movie. Oh yeah, with scenes that don't
add anything to anything. It's like the eras story like,
and then he went to a theater where he brought
a laundry hamper that they let him bring in for
some reason, and then someone stole and got bitten the
end of that plotline.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Thank you for playing though. It is kind of cool
seeing basically kung fu films in a.

Speaker 11 (36:39):
Yeah, I thought, I thought, yeah, yeah, I thought, maybe
you intentionally east ragged Us with like at least I
got one and a half minutes of an okay, so this.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Is the kung fu movie. I didn't even realize.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
No, no, no, they were watching a kung fu movie.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
And he goes to a theater in times watches a
kung fu movie. Obviously just lifted and put in this movie.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
He went to the only theater Times Square that wasn't porn.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, well well yeah, yeah, it would be porn later
that night.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Most everything got very meta.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Huh yeah for a moment. For a moment, I wasn't
sure what level I was at. The inception, what.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Do you think of the kill? The monster basically guns
the guy.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
It's drawn out. I have a hard time believing the
victim wouldn't be able to get away.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Has will often become the motif of this movie.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Like I think he's not exactly mobile.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Well, it's like very inconsistent. He sometimes he's really fast,
but then he isn't. Sometimes he's really strong, but he isn't.
It's very range. Jana said, did that guy just put
the monster just put his hands through his hand through
the guy. Because it just even the kills often don't
make sense or they're kind of hard to like piece
together why this person actually dying?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Right, It's like, okay, what what what are the power
levels on the gremlin from the basket exactly? It becomes
difficult to differentiate. I actually am already for getting Yeah,
somehow we can also occasionally reach doorknobs, but sometimes not.

(38:34):
It seems like so it's or if not, then then
he can just break down a door anytime he wants to.
So it's kind of irrelevant. Yeah, I mean, I will
say that that kill a scene in the office like
has most of the tension of a toothpaste. Dad.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
It's just.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
I already know how everything's going to go down, So
it's just a matter of how long it's going to
take him to succumb to some stupid it does.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
The next day, Dwayne has a wonderful date with Sharon.
They share a kiss. However, the Grimlin gets a telepathic
boner and goes aption in the hotel room. The manager
opens the room to see what the commotion and what
the commotion is and finds nothing, which gives a drunk
ne'er do well a chance to steal Duane's cash. As

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you can imagine, this leads to another death as the
monster kills the thief and Dwyane senses the violence and
leaves Sharon in the lurch.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
He gets back there surprisingly quickly.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, everyone in this movie. Everyone in this movie and
just manages to traverse Manhattan very quickly when they.

Speaker 7 (39:45):
Need to.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Have you ever gotten a telepathic boner?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Not yet, Erica?

Speaker 3 (39:54):
How you telepathic?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Hold on? I'm thinking about it right now, eric I think.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Oh my god, did it happened?

Speaker 4 (40:03):
It worked?

Speaker 3 (40:07):
I mean, maybe maybe every phantom boner is.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
This development.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Somehow the Gremlin managed to grab a Rollo Dex the
doctor and to send a more than one story building
using we'll say not enough appendages that that.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Seems possible one handed.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Especially because presumably you could just use one card from
a Rolodex. You don't need, like to brand a.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Rolodex with you.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
It feels like an unnecessary.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Oh my lord.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah, I mean, as of seven jobs ago, I think
we still have one.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
So yeah. Maybe.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Also, I'm glad that we had a second feeding scene
that established nothing besides what the first one did. And
then uh, a television that is apparently non functional outside
of the basket for the gremlin to watch, and it's
like that should be good enough, I bet you, despite

(41:15):
knowing that he's psychic and probably he's going to be
able to tune in on whatever he's doing. Sharon's declaration
that Dwayne, you're different, yeah, okay, he is, that is true.
I don't feel like that's what you were sensing, Sharon.

(41:37):
I just thought he was a typewriter mechanic. But yeah,
that's but she moves faster than a James Bond girl,
so I guess we should.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Just assume he's right.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
But this is like, by the return after the tantrum
that occurs, we have to question how many people live
in this fleabag hotel, Like there's a lot of overactive,
like overpopulated. This is sometimes squear, which granted it's the
eighties and it's shitty so it's much cheaper, but like, damn,

(42:12):
there were so many fucking people that live in this
building in the real world ship most of them will
not leave each other alone, and they're awake all hours.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Day and night. I wrote this question for Erica when
she was supposed to watch the movie, but Erica murder okay,
murder fuck Mary, the Grimlin, Dwayne or the Mario looking
hotel manager to go on, just on instinct right now,

(42:42):
just appear instinct.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Me, oh man, okay, say it again.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Murder fuck Mary, the Grimlin, Dwayne and the Mario looking
hotel manager.

Speaker 6 (42:58):
I mean, I guess I I should murder the Grimlin
since Joyce, yeah, gross.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
Otherwise, I don't know what Dwayne looks like.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Better than the Gremlin, yeah, I mean, I better better
than Mario too, really, but I feel.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Like Mario probably seems like a he was like the
hotel manager.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
Yeah, yeah, he's like a stable job. I marry him,
and I guess the Dwayne guy. But is he gross?

Speaker 4 (43:32):
No, he's not gross, but he is a virgin. So
it's gonna last two seconds.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah, it's not gonna be very pleasurable.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Did I answer correctly?

Speaker 6 (43:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I think that's a great answer. We learn via flashback
that Dwayne and the Grimlin were actually conjoined twins mm hmm,
and their aunt, and their aunt was the only person
to truly love them. Their mother died in labor, while
the father hated the monstrous blile Bleel Bleill, Blyile, belly

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le Lyle, blaming the tumor for killing his wife the brother.
I mean sure, the brothers had a close, loving connection. However,
the father ultimately conspired with doctor Lyftlander, doctor Needleman, and
doctor Cutter to separate them, and they disposed Blile by

(44:32):
throwing in the garbage can. Not even garn, just a
plastic bag next to the garbage can.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
He's not even in the garbage. I like how this
operating theater is like in their living room. Yeah, and
and the fact that are you going to talk about
this scene?

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Oh you know, yeah, yeah, I'll the doctor talk about.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
It the operating theater medical professional.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
For a reason, Cutter apparently does like all of the work. Yeah,
I don't think the other two aren't really doing anything.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
I mean, her name is Cutter. What do you think
that's just gonna do?

Speaker 4 (45:14):
And I like how like they had enough sense to
have her or a surgical mask, but the other two
doctors standing three feet away did not have it, not
have anything on.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Some point, I mean gross, let's I mean, okay, you
want to break down the operating theater?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Yeah? Please?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Can we point out the fact that they're able to
separate this conjoined twin. It's completely autonomous to the other twin, right, Like,
there's nothing that stops them from being conjoined. Why wouldn't
you medically do that much earlier before they both fill
the bond with each other? Like, why take so long?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Would do that if it was a real case?

Speaker 4 (46:02):
I mean to be fair, Like the the medical science
in this movie is pretty close to accurate.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
Wait, how old are they when they got separated?

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Twelve twelve canonically, which is pretty wicked late to be
doing this kind of invasive surgery. It's established within the
timeline of the story. This is not conjecture. They're supposedly
twelve years old the first time they're like, oh wait,

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they don't share anything other than flesh and tissue. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
Science wasn't as advanced when they were born.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
It wasn't that far. Did anybody else study, like I
spent last night actually studying the real phenomenon of what
this was. Sure, parasitic twinning usually involves as opposed to
normal conjoined twin, where one twin becomes dominant and develops
at a normal rate, whereas the parasitic twin barely develops

(47:08):
and they become vestigial or I mean.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
I guess I thought I haven't seen this.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
I'm going on blind, But like, is this like, you know,
I conjoined twin where there's like two people that talk
to each other and like have personalities, or is this
like one person with like a weird looking hump on them?

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Well, it's it's like weird. They decided to make it
more horrific as they could with like it's a fully
autonomous lump that lives on his side.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
So it's like a pile of mashed potatoes with John's mouth.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Some reason, it has like atavistic features, it's not.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
Fully Is it called basket case because it's in the basket?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yes, yeah, because he puts in a good God.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
I how does he put it in the basket of
attached to him?

Speaker 3 (47:59):
No, No, it's been removed surgically removed. It was surgically
but it survives the removal. Oh, which, if it was
as far developed as this is and not sharing organs
is extremely unlikely.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
That's cool. I gotta look at the photo now, I'm
into it. I love it also.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
That this kind of thing occurs, either it's coming out
of the middle of the torriso when it has no
head or it's coming out of the cross.

Speaker 10 (48:28):
Cute.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Do you know what it looks like?

Speaker 6 (48:31):
It looks like in that Nicholas Cage's color movie when
the when the mom and the sun get like, oh
yeah push together in the end.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yeah, oh oh oh yeah yeah, Colorado of Space Colorado.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
Oh that's funny.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
Oh, I kind of wish I would have really interesting
I get the Washingtonian vibes now, I just get it.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
They have had really interesting cases where like this like
adult was complaining of back pain. Yeah, and they did
imaging and there's this like tumor in his bag.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
But it's a baby and.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
It was actually the restigal.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Yeah, it happened in Indonesia. That's the most. The most
they're usually.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Now this this this well developed. It's usually kind of
like a very messy tissue development. But interestingly enough, there's
there's often there's not uncommonly like teeth in the middle.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Teeth and hair. Don't forget there's often hair.

Speaker 6 (49:28):
I'm asking questions that I'm not sure if you've actually
explained it, because I got I'm only semi focused right now.
But like, oh, I understand that Christ's monument. Now, okay,
is this thing like evil? Like, is he he's killing
people just because he's like.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
You don't have a Yeah, yeah, I can continue, hold on.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
He's very angry.

Speaker 6 (49:50):
I just saw an image from basket Case three.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yeah, it gets worse, It gets much worse.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
So the five their conspires to have the twins removed
against the their will. Basically, however, the two brothers get
revenge by killing their father and they live at the
until she dies, and they they they resent being separated
and they resent being treated like freaks as a result,
And I think that's where a lot of the animosity
and the anger come from there.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
So they're like they killed together.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
One one one.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Facilitates the killing of the other.

Speaker 6 (50:31):
But like, I kill their dad, but like why would
they kill other people?

Speaker 1 (50:36):
The doctors did the did the surgery on them.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Okay, so they kill the people that going after who
did this years ago? Oh okay.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
So it's not just like a bloodbusting.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
No no, no, no, no, it's it's it's a revenge scheme
of really weird of overally weird.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Very Yeah, it's a very under like, underplanned and underdeveloped
reven scheme.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Yeah they Hey, you know what.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
Though I like the concept. I really am into the
concept of the film, Like I think it's great.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Let's just let's just also talk about sorry the after
the separation in the dining room operation room of course,
where where Dwayne's pajamas are left on, and then disappear
happy and then he wakes up with no pain, like

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he's able to immediately mobilize himself after having a congenital
or conjoined twin move to go searching for his brother
in the trash.

Speaker 10 (51:45):
Then wait so then and then and then yes, go
into the basement, which is a very deep, creepy cellar,
and construct in the loudest manner possible the most wiley
coyote jig saw trap he.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Can come up with. That's so great to kill his father,
who will come down the stairs and threaten if that's you, Dwayne,
which raises at least two other questions, who else would
it be if that's the noise coming out of there?

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Why are you fairly nonchalant about it regardless of.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Who it is?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
And if it's not him, why are you still going downstairs?

Speaker 4 (52:33):
My dude, he's wearing he's wearing too much clothes is
what I got to say. He should be doing this
in his underwear.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
He should be doing a naked Yeah. Obviously he still
walks all the way into their saw basement onto like
a railroad track with a kill blade mine car.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
A scene of the Lisle being like do you want
to play game?

Speaker 6 (53:00):
They were they're going to separate these twins and literally
just throw one entire of the twins like in the trash.
I know, it was like like attached to the body,
like not like a full.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Being, but like, yeah, it's a lay term report.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
It was like a yeah, it was like a sentient being. Right,
I could say, hey, don't.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Kill me, right, Yeah, it's a four hundred and eighty
two month abortion.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Yeah at this point though in New York State it
was legal up to the thirteenth year.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yeah, Cartman's mom was going to move there just to
get bad of Cartman.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
I mean, clearly it was viable.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah. In the present, Dwayne and Biell Bilele confronting doctor
Cutter at her office and we find out that she's
actually a veterinarian, so they hired a veterinarian before.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
I mean, well, I got the sense that he couldn't
find anybody else to do this that makes sense. So
we don't really know that much about the first doctor,
but Needleman is clearly and she just likes to cut stuff.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Needle Man is the same guy that gave the Joker
his operation in the first.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
I forgot about that character.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Actually, the Joker didn't kill him for some reason.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Because he did have a famer.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Doctor. Cutter tries to kick them out of her office,
but Dwayne real reveals who he is and then Blild
kills Cutter by shoving her head in a draw drawer
full of scalpels. Doctors draw. It was that scene where
her face is full of scalpels.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
It was kind of horrible, very well acted.

Speaker 5 (54:48):
I don't think I want to watch. I actually like
the strategy better. Well, you watch these terrible movies.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I don't want to watch.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
It's really not that realistic. Yeah, what's the main character's name,
Dwayne Dwayneyne.

Speaker 6 (55:02):
So do the parents just for friends and you're like, okay,
you're going to get a normal name, and we're gonna
give you.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Like a name, thank you, thank you. At what point
we skipped? Yeah, Oh you're Dwayne and you're Belile, You're
gonna get the most biblical ass name.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
Yeah, it sounds like beels above you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Well, it's another it means the liar In Hebrew it's
the same means lord of lies, and so does Belile.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Basically is so I wasn't wrong.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
I just know a lot of Satanic name ancient languages.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
Yeah, Belile, that's really How do you tell your kids
you don't love him without telling you.

Speaker 8 (55:39):
You're in Dwayne, you're Blile, dumb bastardized French name yours.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
It's from the Bible.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
I kind of like it, Like how do you spell that?

Speaker 6 (55:56):
It's like, yeah, I do kind of like it though,
to be Oh, that's not a nice picture that came up.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
I like the word.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
What is it? Like little rat pellets? Like a little
rabbit pellets, a little dookies inside the basket? Is that
what's happening?

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Because where doesn't My suspension of disbelief was really affected
by the lack of feces, Like this thing's probably got
the nastiest ships too.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Well, we do find him in a toiler, right, hot dog?

Speaker 4 (56:28):
Oh yeah me.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
So okay, Actually, somehow we.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Can always fit into containers. He shouldn't fit into the
comes out of it and whatever we're supposed to buy it.

Speaker 6 (56:40):
Okay, So actually doesn't mean liar. It means it's a
Hebrew word used to characterize the wicked or worthless.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
The word is often understood as lacking worth. Yeah, from
two common words uh b e l i which means
without and y'all y a apostrophe a l and to
be a value that's.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
Really harsh, harsh.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
Can you imagine giving birth to something and being like
you're not worth anything?

Speaker 5 (57:11):
Like that's a real shitty name.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
Okay, Like I made the joke about how do you
tell your kids you don't love them without saying that directly?

Speaker 5 (57:17):
But like, that's it I'm going to.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
Call pretty passive aggressive.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah, the name of the golden The name of the
Golden calf is bail, which is just another form of
the same yeah of like of like dismissal of the
pagan worthless god being whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
So I didn't realize it was that similar. Okay.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
It's because so few vowels get used in ancient languages,
though a lot of that stuff gets confused.

Speaker 6 (57:49):
Too bad that I like the name, like I feel
like I would have I would not use it from
that in my pocket.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
But I'm not gonna anymore.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
We did back to the movie completely skip the weird
ass bar confession scene that he has with Casey, the
sex worker who lives in his building, to no shame
or scorn by anyone of the many, many, many, many
nosy neighbors, where he evidently gets drunk for the first

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time in his life and just confesses the entire storyline
before he splashback to one. Random lady of the night
who lives down the hall doesn't react that poorly. She's like,
he was drunk, I'll still walk him home.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Mm hmm, yeah, she's she's a good, good woman hooker.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Nobody can act like realistic drunk in this movie.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
No, that was Actually it's no. But it's not just
this movie. So many movies cannot even come close to.

Speaker 7 (58:59):
Get Everybody drunk had remember the gist of their lines,
and it's funnier if they don't remember all of them.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
That's the point. It just seems kind of silly that, like,
just dude, stumble around, don't say your lines correctly. It
doesn't seem like it should be that hard.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Why is it that hard? Because the same thing with marijuana.
People don't act well.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Daniel O'Brien did an entire episode of h Your Brain
or Sorry, Obsessive Pop Culture Disorder. He's like, somehow Hollywood
doesn't know what drugs are, like.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
That, it's very odd, like people like either overact drunk
or or they completely underdo it. Yeah. Yeah, it's just
like it's not believable in many cases.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
No, because they either there were like two points in
this post weird bar scene or like okay that that
rhymes true, but like he kind of blanks out and
just stands in the doorway for two minutes and then
she like runs back and catches him. That's accurate. That
that is how people will act when drunk. And then

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like her just kind of half walking him and like
throwing him on the bed. That's accurate. That's a good
way to depict how that is. But whenever they have
to actually talk or do something, it's like they can
never can't do it capture that. It seems like there
should be an easier way to get about that by
just giving alcohol to the actors.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
That blew the budget so they couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
It was the same.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
It was the same thing when we did the Kaiju
season with Jason Sedaikas and Anne Hathaway. We're like, they're
supposed to be drunk most of the time, but only
occasionally do they actually seem credibly drunk.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
We got one of the all time creepiest and funniest
scenes as she's like getting ready for bed.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Please go on from behind the pillows emergence a while.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
What is he after, Josh? He wants to get some yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
He does not have any any any moves, no, no do.
He does not have the Kavorka.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
I love that he goes into the room with to
steal some panties. That's that's his goal to He's.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
He couldn't go to the vending machine, so I had
to get it this way.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
But like her apartment, Okay, I know the smiley face
thing only came about in like the mid seventies, as
depicted by Forrest Gump, which has an alternate name that
I won't use because of political correctness. But why is

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her in higher life centered around smiley faces? Like if
you look around her apartment, it's her shirt, it's things
next to her door, it's on her wall, it's on
her shower curtain. Why is everything smiley faces branding? Probably
like but no one's getting money from it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Budweiser, Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:02:25):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
In the barita like drink Budweiser, the beer of complete insanity.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
I could have bud Light, but Budweiser.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
I didn't have bud Light. Back then, you had to
drink straight Budwiser. Now bud life was arounded till like
the late eighties.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Oh what did people do for their light beer? Back then?

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
They drank like real men. But also, finally, with this scene,
despite a strange smiley face us and also the dead
giveaway that she is a complete psychopath, she gets into
her house and immediately takes her shoes off and throws

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them two opposite corners of the room. Nobody, nobody does that.
That is that is an extremely strange behavior. If you're like, ah,
fuck one corner, fuck the other corner.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
Yeah, this person deserves to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Yeah she probably she's killed people herself. No, no, but
she also treats us to the only example we see
if someone actually acting in this fucking attricity. Like after
after Belile reveals himself, we finally get some genuine emotion

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from someone behaving as I think they actually would confront
it by Jim Henson's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I remember at Michigan State, this happened to you once
a month, you don't have to it's more.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Likely to actually that was I think something like this
happened to Alex a couple of des I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
I'm so sure. Once a month at Michigan Stay at
Acres Hall, we get emails about people going into the
laundry room and stealing women's underwear. Oh my god, so
gross that it's just weird, Like I couldn't imagine being
a woman surrounded by a bunch of gross dudes. I
don't can tolerate it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Right, Yeah, world single year.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Yeah. Later, back at the hotel, Sharon shows up anxious
and afraid. It turns out Needleman has been murdered, and
this makes Sharon desperate for a human touch and the
and the love of a strong young of your Iyle Man.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Making some of those Yeah, it's not all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
They started the baby making process, but Belisle.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
That's what they do.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Belile sounds like Bellile, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
You're always you're always going to think of this character. Now,
I know when you look across the river. I know
it's terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Belile, jealous of Duayne's intact penis, I suppose start screeching
and cock blocking left and right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Yeah, he's a total cock block.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Yeah, I know it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Don't keep him in a basket.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
In your room.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
He needs a free range environment.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Keep him escape.

Speaker 6 (01:05:51):
It sounds like I was like a less cute Toto,
sort of speaking of.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Cree So breeching and cog blocking left to right. This
force is Dwayne to physically toss Sharon out of his room,
and everyone is left unsatisfied. You've got wrapped in a blanket.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
She doesn't seem upset by this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
She goes along to get along. I like her.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Because she's the dumbest ship. I mean, she's like one
of the dumbest.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Yeah, I agree, Heroin, Let's be nice to Sharon. Let's
be nice to Sharon. Because later that night, while Dwayne sleeps,
Belile leaves the hotel and search for Sharon. Essentially, we
get to we get to witness.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
He gets over there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
It's unclear he rolled right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
I forgot who Sharon was though, do you know what
I mean? Like I she's the like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Pseudo girlfriend, She's the secretary.

Speaker 6 (01:07:01):
Okay, but she wasn't like she wasn't the vetter who
cuts him apart, right no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
No, no, no, you worn't at Needleman's office.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
So all of a sudden, Bellile's just jealous or something.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
He doesn't want his brother's penis to get hard.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Yeah yeah, basically twice now, but.

Speaker 6 (01:07:18):
There was like there's like not like a motive other
than jealousy, Like she was an involved in separation process.
Right No, no, no, I guess as long.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
Intelligent, but it's not a mean person. Yeah, okay, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
She's just a really really stupid, horny person.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Which is most people.

Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
Yeah, those horones get get cooking and you don't think straight.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
You see a nice piece of meat, like Dwayne, you
just got to jump on it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
How weird?

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Yeah, apparently I need this kill Boston.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Yeah, I got to take him powny. Anyways, we're being
very impolite because basically what we see next is we
get to witness the rape and murder of Sharing through
Dwayne's dream as he's connecting with Belile, who's out and about.
It's kind of horrific and disturbing, and Dwayne simply can't

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stop it. Arriving too late, he finds basically Belile laying
on top of a murdered Sharon and there's blood all
over her pelvis area. It's pretty gross.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
It's how would he rape her? I didn't think he
had that?

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Okay, well, yeah, we'll get.

Speaker 6 (01:08:42):
So she's like ten times his size from the pictures.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Like he's asleep.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
It's it's unclear how people can't resist this character in
real life, but apparently they can't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Because he's a stupid mutant Pokemon, So yeah, unstoppable.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
I guess he's got hands.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
It seems like pretty aggressive little sex oh with his
jagged teeth, is what the implication I thought was, I
could be.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Right, Okay, it's not told.

Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
I think I'm gonna get nightmares. And I even watched
this movie.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
It's pretty gross.

Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
Like what are they called, oh that fish estarial it's
an l like a lamprey.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
Yeah, yeah, it kind of has that kind of kind
of yeah, it's yeah, it's it's very disturbing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Yeah, it's nasty.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Anyways, Carrying on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Arriving too late, he forces Belile back to the hotel,
where they argue and fight, drawing a crowd. Dwayne loves
his brother, but he wants a normal connection and Blile
just wants to be like Dwayne. It's the story of
the oldest time. Really. In the throes of argument and passion,
Blio attacks Dwayne and they fall from the hotel window.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
And before that, before that, well, Ile reaches out and
crushes Dwayne's manhood.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Yeah, in the air.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
He does a full ye with no base as he's
done some.

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
Brother.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Yeah, crushes his testicles between his hands.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Yeah, with no legs.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
He couldn't generate enough like momentum for some of these moves.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
You can read all about that in the paper call.
There's a paper called civil Simpling, Rivalry and Sexual Rage, basket.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Case paper about this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Yeah, you got to write about some when you're an academic,
get you got to show them that you're doing something
like get not tenured. Yeah, he totally. Gorilla lifts them
up by the testes. They followed the window. They lay
on the pavement. They both seemingly die, but we know

(01:11:14):
that's not true because there's two sequels, So.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
They don't die.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
They don't die. He comes back the end.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Wait, wait, do they are they just unconscious or yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Like supernatural, they're unconscious and they wake up out of
like a coma in the next film okay, okay, and
then their long locked grandma takes care of them and protects.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Them falling from six stories up in a scraper as.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
You do, well, they held on right, so that might
help lower the velocity.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
I guess if you just roll before you hit the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
It also seems like Dwayne could have just reached out
and grabbed anything else on the way down and not
done that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
But we were crushed.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
I mean, yeah, to be fair, we'll give him some
credit in this case, but I find it hard to
believe that people can't at least outrun.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
The while, especially after like Dwayne gives no attempt at
secrecy on the last kill of like I guess I'm
just gonna show him to the doctor, like and she knows,
like she's in the know. As it's happening, they're doing
like a dueling villain monologue at each other of like

(01:12:31):
I know what you did and she's like, I know,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
What you did last summer?

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Yeah, And it's like.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Who is this for?

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Neither of you? It feels like a not a wasted opportunity.
It feels like it wasted my time, which is what
it really was. But much like the eighteenth showing of
the Hotel Brocelin sign, just.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Use that shot every time.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
We can do this.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
This movie give us a new found appreciation on life. No,
but it gave me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
But it did give me a quick revelation on something.
I have to let Justin, uh, let Justin know again?
What's that besides besides the obvious. By the way, remember
I don't do most of my office work at home.
So if something's gonna be fucking weird and gross, you
have to tell me.

Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
I'm watching the public Oh my god, I didn't realize
you've watched these movies not at home.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
No, you do all this at work, some of it
at work, some of it at coffee shops, some of
it at different places. There's going to be the most random,
full frontal nudity at the last minute in a movie.
Tell me it's gonna be something I shouldn't do. Just
just just you know, Justin.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
Is not gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
Tell people you're doctor.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
I don't think that's gonna do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
I like to imagine that Kellen Dougie and the Secret
Service are like sitting around his laptop watching the end
of is like, it's a good movie. I'm gonn watch this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Come on, I'm not going to jail for this podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
To explain.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
That's the end of the late the greatest film of
all time.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Well, I didn't mention is Erica. If you really love
stop motion filming, you have to watch.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
Thy Like I know, they didn't have to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
In three shots that use them like you need to
do any of that. It was just like a gratuitous flex. No,
I haven't officially touched on this, because Josh did. At
the beginning. You asked what the adjusted budget of this
would be? Oh, yeah, yeah, So this is a shot
and we'll say nineteen eighty one for a budget of

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at the time thirty five thousand dollars, which is quite
minimal at this point, even though in about two or
nineteen ninety nine, the first Blair Witches shot for about
ten thousand dollars and someone walks away with eight and
a half thousand dollars in their pocket. But adjusted for

(01:15:30):
modern values, this movie still cost about one hundred and
twenty one thousand dollars by modern standards.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Also, going to a film costs, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
I mean. Also, this is the early eighties when people
didn't spend that much on movies regardless, So it's kind
of a lie to say this was built on a
totally shoe string budget. This was not on a tiny budget.
It was not on a good budget. But there were
also plenty of horror, especially exploitation movies being made on

(01:16:04):
less than this. This is not like the Bottom of
the Barrel as far.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Oh sure, I mean, the puppet obviously was not real, but.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Also they were varying degrees of puppet to it felt
like it was very stupid looking. Other times it was
much more humanized.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
But it was it was You could tell they had
somewhat of a budget to make that thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
The stop motion was totally unnecessary. They should have just
not done that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Just use a puppet on Whiers. Dude, why bother with
the stop motion? That's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
It looked odd.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
If we don't get Basketcase, we don't. Also later we
also don't get Nightmare before Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Yes we do, fuck it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
This is a perfect movie to do some stats. So okay, yeah,
some horse dads Halloween are we doing?

Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
It's for the Halloween.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
It's just so I counted six dats, okay, in ninety
one minutes. That's one death every fifteen point one six,
six sixty sixty six, repeating that seems oh weird. Yeah,
and we had one penis, we said, yeah, which for

(01:17:27):
a while it was like, is this going to be
the only nudity.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Had a nice bush? I see his penis because of
the bush.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
Yeah, it was. It was like a mushroom top. We
had one set of breasts, so one penis in one
breast in ninety one minutes, unexpected. Not really any destructions

(01:17:57):
unless you count the destruction of many people's souls, and
we won't.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Maybe the destruction of several tools in the basement of
the doctor so household.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
Yeah, I would say maybe there's one destruction of what
Times Square used to be, because now it's Disney Store,
eminem Store, a bunch of people in Elmo costumes and
some of them you don't want to talk to though transformers. Yeah,
that's that's what has become. And it used to be
a place where you know, a man and his uh

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enjoined twin brother went on a murderous rampage.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Like the It's also somehow the first place you came
across a hotel in all of New York's.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
It's the first one I saw.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Are you ready for the scale?

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Now, on the heavily Mandates Things that go Bump in
the Night scale, which has been used since the Dawn
of Man in the Discovery of Fire to quantify, quantify
relative nightmare date, nighttime dame, and systematize the overall quality
of horror films. You will endeavor to rank this film
on a scale from one to ten, ten being quote,
holy shit, I just pissed myself. I'm so fucking scared.

(01:19:11):
What was that fucking noise? I'm American? Where's my gun?
That's that's ten? One being the quote the soft feminine
purr like Ericas like the snores of Erica, which signal
everything is calm and nothing is wrong and can slumber
the night away, and five average films being like, oh man,
I sure hope that's not my weird molester uncle walking

(01:19:34):
around out there. I'm just trying to sleep.

Speaker 7 (01:19:36):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
My fellow mandates rank this film.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
I'm assuming not going.

Speaker 6 (01:19:47):
Can I can I make a prediction number like based
on like what I think.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
You guys might pin?

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:19:53):
God, okay, but you obviously have to like not be skewed,
and there's no money in me winning right?

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Want write it down?

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
Oh smart?

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Hold on that way, we can't. We can't heard towards
your answer.

Speaker 6 (01:20:08):
Yeah, hold on a minute, I will. I had to
find like physical paper, give me a second.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
I know where it is, thank Josh?

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
Okay, are you ready? All right? So some would say
that Basketcase is not a good film, and they would
be right, this is not good. It's interesting, like it's

(01:20:36):
it's I would I would you know, check out Times
Square in nineteen eighty two. Do I want to go
in there? No, However I will get I will give
them credit. Like this is one of the few movies
that when I finished it, I had to immediately take
a shower.

Speaker 6 (01:20:57):
Two out of ten okay, okay, and to kind of capture.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Can you see, oh nice, pretty close Josh?

Speaker 5 (01:21:08):
I predicted three.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
So pretty close, you know me to kind of capture
the essence of this. Unfortunately, I had to go back
to chat. So I have a couple of haikus to
capture the essence that is basket Case.

Speaker 5 (01:21:28):
Do you have the time to.

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
Hey? Number one times?

Speaker 5 (01:21:40):
I am one of those.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
Number one in Sleazy times square, the Lyle hides, rage festers,
no poop, just pure wrath. And number two lazy streets.
I'm low, but Lyle creeps but too slow. Cops catch

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him in five.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Wouldn't be very Okay, that's it, Kellen, go ahead, go next?

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
No, no, I said out of ten?

Speaker 5 (01:22:21):
Sorry, yes said three.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
Two point five.

Speaker 6 (01:22:28):
It doesn't work that way. We're team Oh no, I'm
just I'm just a predictor. But all right, well, Kellen next,
and then I'll show you my my guest here took.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Okay, wait, I'm checking my notes just to be sure
I have all this.

Speaker 6 (01:22:45):
Although now I think I've been more generous than I said.
It's hard for me sometimes, but we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
I like that he's gotten notes. Callen is like I
like Kellen does his home.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Yeah, slower than Oklahoma.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
I touched that, yeah, shockingly.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
Yes, rolodexe bad idea. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, I think
I yep touched that yep. Mm hmm. Now I don't

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have to wrap this movie just fucking blows. Oh shoot, well,
I wish I could come up with a song that
would have encapsulated the way that I felt this movie
is too little and too much all at once. It's

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not scary enough to be horror. It's not dramatic enough
to be drama. It's not funny enough to be comedy.
It is the ultimate sin of just being boring no
matter what it's trying to be throughout, barring a few
shining moments that are usually hilarious intentionally or not, I'm

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not going to say it's a valiant effort. It's an effort.
It was a movie that happened. So what it gets
is a mere two two reformed, chowed middle fingers.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Same.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
This is their best to two and at worst just
a standard eighty schlockfist my predictions.

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
The same for Josh was free.

Speaker 6 (01:24:47):
But so you guys, I mean, it's interesting, you guys
picked the same number, and I picked the same number
for you.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
So let's see I with Justin.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Yeah, that Justin is a nine above.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
I think that's highly accurate.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Or Horror often mirrors the laying anxieties of its creators
and the cultures that create them. In the early years
of the Reagan administration, with the rise of the New
Right and the Christian world majority, we see the consequences
of what happens when people are forced to hide, obsturcate,
cut away, or feel shame for the less than normal

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aspects of themselves in their personality. In this spill, we
witness the consequence of what happens when we alien ourselves
from the salient aspects of our humanity in a desperate
attempt to filter out the good from the bad, the
beautiful from the ugly, the pure from the impure. Only
too late do we discover that we can neither actualize
the better angels of our nature nor redirect the baser

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aspects of our personalities into healthier pursuits. Without a living
and negotiating connection to both the good and the bad.
We create men who will always be boys and boys
will always be men, and in doing so, we put
everybody at risk. This is a cautionary tale for the ages.
I give this film a canal of ten because I
just kicked my.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
Pants that you're You're creepily accurate.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Yeah, so Justin, Justin gets to be the beta professor X.
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
That was fun.

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
I like that game.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
I would like to thank Shane Ivers for allowing us
to use his track Tremendium under a Creative Commons license.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
One two, three, mitted palms is dank, straight up