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The Hockey Writers Ink Eps. 196 "Big Trades ahead of the Draft for the Flyers; ft. Pearlo Wisdom!!"
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Welcome to the Hockey Writers Ink, join your host Ron "SteelFlyers" Mont as I bring you all the latest on the Philadelphia Flyers!
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1. INTRO and THANKS
2. Monster trade Zegras for Poehling and a 4th and 5th
4. Draft preview with Flyers picking:
6th, 22nd, 31st
5. Ideas on picks
6. What has Pearlo been up to
7. Wrap up
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The Hockey Writers Ink Eps. 196 "Big Trades ahead of the Draft for the Flyers; ft. Pearlo Wisdom!!"
Relax the keyboard is off, the press box is closed, and the mic is just getting warmed up!
Welcome to the Hockey Writers Ink, join your host Ron "SteelFlyers" Mont as I bring you all the latest on the Philadelphia Flyers!
On the show this week, a special guest!!
Pearlo Wisdom is in the house talking all things Zegras Trade and the Draft!
Catch Pearlo here:
X - @pearlosnhlpow
YouTube - www.youtube.com/@PearloWisdom
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This week's talking points:
1. INTRO and THANKS
2. Monster trade Zegras for Poehling and a 4th and 5th
4. Draft preview with Flyers picking:
6th, 22nd, 31st
5. Ideas on picks
6. What has Pearlo been up to
7. Wrap up
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to The Hockey Writers, Inc. The show where the
writer is fresh off the presses and the ink is
not dry, relaxed, the keyboard is off and the press
boxes closed with the mic is just getting warmed up.
Join your host, Lance Green, the guardian of the blue
paint turned writer, and your co host Ron steel Flyers,
as we bring you all the latest on the Philadelphia Flyers.
(00:39):
Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the next episode of The
Hockey Writers, Inc. With your host Ron Steel Flyers. Hey, folks,
how you doing. Oh my gosh, we got a special
show for you tonight. Man, we got a very very
special guest sitting in here with us tonight. And man,
I'll tell you what I can't wait. How about that, folks,
Parlol Wisdom is back on the showly smokes.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
By the way, if you all don't know who this
man is, let me just clue you in. Pearlo Wisdom
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Speaker 2 (01:27):
For sure, Pearlo. It's been far, far too long.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
How you doing, brother, I'm doing excellent. Man, it's been
quite the journey, yes, and it's nice to be back
with you again. Get into some great hockey discussion. We're
talking about the draft today. Yeah, man, one of my
favorite times of the year, the time off from everything.
Turn off my phone, don't bother calling me anything. If
(01:56):
anybody ain't dying, then I a coming chief. I love
the draft, oh.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Man, I'll tell you. I'm you and me both.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'm super excited.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
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(03:14):
I appreciate that. So here we go, folks, episode number
one ninety six. Big Trades just at the beginning here
for the Philadelphia Flyers of the draft. It is just
around the corner here in big trades that happening here
for the Flyers, And we got to talk a little
bit about that, and I brought in a expert, if
(03:34):
you will, to talk about Philadelphia Flyers, about the draft
and about what we kind of think about the trade
that happened and everything like that. So let's do that, Steve.
Let's talk about that first, right off right. Philadelphia Flyers
the other day traded Ryan Poling for Trevor Segres to
the Anaheim Ducks. They also let go a twenty twenty
(03:58):
five fourth round pick in twenty twenty six fifth round
pick to Anaheim for Trevor Zegres and of course Ryan Polling.
So what is your initial reaction to that one.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
They're parallel.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, it's Cera, I mean Pealing's you know, he's a
good third line center, no doubt, and a lot of
teams you might be a fourth line center. He had
a good offensive year last year, though, Yeah, given the opportunity.
It's one of those guys is just just seems to
find a way to be part of the team anyway
you can, whether it's potting the couple, you know, maybe
(04:33):
getting physical. He tries to be as good defensively as
he can. I mean he's not really He's a jack
of all trades, tech guy. And you're never gonna question
Palin's heart, That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I'll never question it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know who. He reminds me of Scott Lawton now
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Has the same kind of game, same kind of body style,
same kind of you know, production or lack of or whatever. Right,
even though he did have a good offensive year this
past year, right, but we also got clear of some
cap space money too, because he just signed an extension
right for a couple of years, and so his cap
(05:15):
basically goes away, and then Trevor Zegres is in for
a one year. The rest of his remaining deal is
only one year left on his deal, right, and then
he becomes a restricted free agent at the end of
next season.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So we know that Trevor Segress comes with a little
bit of baggage. He's got some of that you know,
injury kind of issue thing going on. He's also potentially
got some other issues going on. But I want to
know what your thoughts are on this whole Segres thing
here to Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I think it's a boom or bust type of thing.
I don't think complete boss. I don't think Zegres is
ever going to be a complete boss. Too much tele
to be a complete bust, right, And uh, he's in
Nanaheid and obviously they never saw him as a center,
And I think that's really what the heart of this
(06:11):
thing was. The discrepancy between the team and him is
is for one thing, if you're a player and you
were drafted as a center, where the money is is
playing center. So he's gonna want if he thinks he's
a center, and you can't really, you know, fault the
guy for wanting to be the best or thinking he
(06:33):
is the best he can be, right, and he wants
and wanting to be the best that he can be.
And I think there was a little bit of an
issue there also, as you mentioned, there were some things
that his let's just put it out there. His maturity
has seemed to be an issue for ever since he
was in college, all of those sort of things. And
(06:53):
by maturity, I'm not putting the kid down, the guy down.
It's everybody mature into a man at different timing. Now
what I think Philadelphia sees here. His hands are amazing,
he's got a great shot. Not the best skater in
the world, but he's not terrible either, and he's got
(07:18):
all the offensive tools that you want. It's just every
when you see him out of his best days, he
just is so enticing. You own it. It's like, come on,
I don't want that guy on my team. And then
he has other days where maybe it's not so much,
and his three zone defensive play, it's got a lot
(07:38):
of work to do. All those sort of things like that.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
This is my guest this is my guest. I don't know.
I don't have any inside information on this. I think
there's been a lot of talk about with Zegers's agent
and so on and over like that. Because he's sitting
at about five and a half. When he becomes a restricted,
they're gonna have to owe him, uh least a qualifying offer,
which is going to push him up to six something.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Or something like something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, So I think between him and there, I think
they went to his agent and said, look, we see
a lot of potential on this point, no doubt about it.
Great potential. Here's the thing. Let's get down to brass
talks here. These are that we don't mind. And obviously
I was going to say, Palin is a good third
line guy, fourth line on some teams. A couple of
(08:29):
draft picks for a kid who was drafted what tenth overall? Nice? Nice,
Let's face it, not the greatest return for anaheut. Okay, no, no, no, no,
let's face it. It's not the greatest return. So what
does that tell you?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, but let me let me argue this fact. I'm
giving away the forty fifth overall pick with this draft
being as deep as it is, and a lot of
people are thinking that this draft isn't as deep as
it is, and I disagree with that. I think there
is a lot of kids that are going to come
out of this draft. Look, just because there's not the
(09:08):
generational you know, Ciddy Crosby or Connor McDavid in this draft,
there is a there's just too many players in this
draft on all sides of the ice and in net
that are are going to be good quality starting NHL
players as far as I'm concerned. And that's what I
(09:29):
mean by this draft being deep. Okay, to where you're
going to be able to get a guy still in
the fourth or fifth round. He might be two or
three years away, but he's going to be able to
contribute to the team as a starting player, is what
I'm trying to get to.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I don't disagree with you. I think the perception of
not being deep is what they mean is the after
you could past about twenty to the third round, there's
not much separation. So a lot of these guys in
the LA first are gonna be looking to try to
trade down into the seconds because you can get a
(10:04):
similar player down there as they are here. That's what
I mean by that kind of deep right, Well, what
I'm saying is is like, it's not the greatest return
for Anaheim. If you had a lot of teams interested
in a kid that's as young as he is. You know,
he didn't have the greatest year last year, but he
has put up some points that you probably would have.
(10:27):
And I think that hell a lot to do with
the fact that the kid wanted to play center. So
I think that they went to him and said, look,
this is the way it's going to be. This is
the way we'd liked it to be. We believe in
the kid, but if we don't see the results, we're
gonna go this way. Well, we're probably gonna only give
him a qualifying offer. If you start asking us for
(10:50):
nine or ten million dollars or something for this kid,
then we're not making the deal. And out there there
is really not any there's not too many teams leaving
this kid to be a center, and we're gonna give
him a shot. So what do you say? You know?
So they they kind of went because Philly really it's
not easy to get centers and where they're drafting a
lot of the time right now, figure and they don't
(11:14):
really have those centers. You know they're coming up. Well,
what's his name? Chenko could be one of those guys.
But so I think it just worked for Philly to
give the kid a shot. And just because the kid
has taken along a wild and mature How many times
(11:34):
have we seen players. There's lots of players. Travis Green,
Remember Travis Green. Even he himself says, before I was
twenty seven years old, I would I would not have
wanted to coach me. After twenty seven I would have
and he was not that he took off around twenty six.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, hey, take some guys a little longer, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And I think what you're saying, okay, well, I think
a guy like Rick Talkett, forget about his playing coaching
style on the ice all you want, I think one thing,
he is really good at his character and helping people
bring out the character, maturing maturing players.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I'm not going to disagree with you on that at all.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
That's what I think the main reason for talking being
there is right now, not just for Vegers, but for
all these guys. Nobody can I don't think anybody can
would say that Rick Talcket is not a good person
when it comes to helping people have character and having characters.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, no, I agree with you one hundred percent on that.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And all of that goes together. And this kid, he matures,
he matures. I see like they just hit pay dirt
on that kid, like Peter. I think they did really well.
Do you mean if he's going to turn up? Yeah,
I don't have a crystal ball, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I listened to both the Briere press conference about the
Trevor Zegres trade, and he said this was something that
they've been having to be patient about, something that they
probably wanted to do ever since they brought in Jamie Drysdale,
you know what I mean. I think that was something
that Philadelphia has been working on now for the last
(13:23):
two years. He even said that in this press conference too.
Danny Rare said that we have been kind of, you know,
coveting this guy for a while, and at one point
when when we could do things, they couldn't do things,
and you know, it just worked out that they were
able to both do things at the same time this
time around. And so I was like, well, all right, okay,
(13:43):
And then listen to the press conference of Trevor Zegris
and you can definitely tell that he feels like, just
based off of what he said, you know, he feels
like there's it just seems like there's a weight lifted
off of him now, you know, leaving that Anaheim behind
(14:05):
and now is getting a fresh start here in Philadelphia,
a fresh chance. You know, he's back with his buddy.
You know, he also spent time with Cam York because
Cam York is a California guy, right, so they all
spent time together. Cam York did, along with with Jamie
Drysdale and along with you know, Trevor's segres.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So I mean it should be interesting, It.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Could be interesting for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
As far as I'm concerned, this is basically a high
upside with low cost for Philadelphia. Okay, uh, you didn't
really give that much up. I mean you gave up
another Scott Lawton, which I think either a jet Lichenko
or a Rashard or somebody that's coming up from through
(14:52):
the system might slot in to fill that role.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Do you know what I mean? Exactly exactly?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You know, a third line center or a third line
player is is a little easier to get.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Than a one C or a two C.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So all right, well, so now that's the next question
I got for you. So, if they are gonna try
him at center, are they gonna make him the one
seed or the two c So I mean like, who
do you put him with? Do you put him with
Mitch kaff and and and connect me or or I
mean who do you put on the wing with him?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
That's uh, that's a tough one because I think you
got to give him every opportunity to succeed right away. Yeah,
you're probably gonna throw them up there on the top
one on the top of I have a feeling. I
have a feeling for the first ten or fifteen games
or so Rick talk, it's just gonna let these guys
fly and get confident, and you're gonna see some high
(15:52):
scoring games and stuff like that. Just you know what,
you guys figure each other out offensively, and then they'll
slowly start building a defensive, especially for Tortorella's Wait, you know,
tell the Tortorella you know.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It's handcuffed everybody, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's not like what Tortorella is
trying to do is not what you're supposed to do.
But sometimes you got to let guys have some fun
and just go out there and it's.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Not fun when you make it not fun. And I
think that's what happened with Tortorella. I think he made
it not fun. Okay, he made it more. That's just
my opinion.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Okay, we'll get into that. Maybe because you know my
affinity for John, I love.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It, and you know, look, and I even came out
and admitted that I was wrong that because I did
not I was not a fan of Tortorella coming in
to coach the Phildelphia Flyers, but I committed and admitted
after his first year that he was absolutely the perfect
coach to come in and coach Philadelphia because of the
attitude that he had, the way he protects his players
and the things that he does.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
But with the team and for the team, it's.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Just that I think that you know, Towards has that
three or four year shelf life.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think I think he thought he could do what
they were wanting to do and then found out he can't.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Well, they got rid of when they got rid of
Scott Lawton. I think that was the straw that broke
the camel's back for Tortorella.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
He just cannot think of the game in a losing capacity. Correct, Yes,
he cannot do it. He's not. He could, but he can't.
He So that that's really what it comes right down.
He just can't handle it. So he tried. Didn't work right?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well, Okay, so I think we can put that to
bed here a little bit. But I want to touch
it a little bit on a quick little preview here
because Philadelphia it's in a very unique situation here in
two days time, they're going to be able to select
three picks.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Here in the first round.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, they have the sixth pick, sixth overall, twenty second overall,
and thirty first overall. I think it is right from
the oilers, right, Okay, So everybody's got their mock drafts,
everybody's got their predictions.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
What your.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So if you were Philadelphia or Danybriere and you get
the sixth pick, who do you like?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Who do you think is going to be available? I
don't know, I'll.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Get Let's go with who's going to be available? Part first?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, let's try that. Who's going to be available?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
M let's try that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
From what I'm seeing, there's there's one little aspect of
me for what I do for a living, is you.
There's one aspect that at books, as they're called, do
really good at is they seem to know who's going
to get drafted. Okay, yeah, number one it's Schaefer, there's
(19:12):
no doubt about.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
That, agreed.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
The number two, there's talk that maybe that San Jose
is looking at another plane. I'll talk him here in
a bit. And I didn't know who I liked until
I found out how well he was defensively. And I
think number two is without a doubt, Michael Missa. Yeah,
apparently he looks like it's it's questionable whether he's going
(19:35):
to be a center. I hear most people think that
I know that are really knowledgeable about this put him
in like the Fiala Kempe type.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, I'm feeling that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, not too bad, not too bad, too bad, okay, Chicago.
I'm almost positive that it's going to be Anton Frundell. Ye.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Because first of all, he's raw defensively, but he has
the mind for it. He just hasn't been taught it.
And I think he's gonna be really good by the way,
two way players are gonna be of huge value moving forward,
a lot more than high more than high point totals.
If you don't think so, look at the Florida Panthers.
(20:24):
That's what that's the model. Now that everybody's going for.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So amazingly, the plus minus is coming into play.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Imagine that. I mean, it's even deeper than that. It's
getting like no, but you know what I mean. The
Florida Panthers spend and you would be unbelievable amount of
money on some of the brightest analytics people in the game,
and they have been for a long time, so they
know they they really go that direction a lot. But
(20:55):
I'll go into that some other day. But I'm only
saying that because it applies to what I'm saying. There's
two adjectives that come that I hear all the time
when talking about Fronde Frondell, fierce and menacing in the
offensive zone. When those words start popping out to about
(21:18):
a player nowadays, when you're looking at guys like Bennett Chuck,
guys like that that are winning, can almost be assured
they're gonna get a high priority. So I think fron
Deell is going to be number three, number four. Questionable,
whether a lot of talk about that Utah is going
to move on here and you're getting man, it's all
(21:42):
over the table. Some people are saying Hagan, some people
are saying Dione, some people are saying I've heard but
Queen even that high or Marton. I think it would
be Marton. I think Marton's probably going to go somewhere there.
I think they need that side that. He's not really
(22:02):
as physical as a lot of as ay as people
would like, but he's got good size. He's a great playmaker. Ye,
he's skating isn't very good. Apparently he's getting compared. I'm
not saying he's gonna be as good as these guys
like Stone and guys like that.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Agreed, Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Okay, that's where he's gonna compare it. So then you
have the Nashville Predators, and I think from all everything
i'm hearing, don A seems to be the one that's
been popping out.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm seeing too. Yet, Okay,
the X.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Factor is the next guy here, and that is Brady Martin.
So that would be Philadelphia. Jacob Brian is why that
I really love just for his attitude, personality, Uh, compete
and all of those sort of things like that. But
(23:03):
you're asking me, you're asking me now who I think
they're gonna pick and who I want them to pick.
And we've been talking about this before. I love Huson,
I just absolutely love this kid. Yeah, he's down at eleven.
I honestly, I'm not worried about whether they need a center.
(23:24):
They aren't like they got Zerrus. They're giving him a
shot there right now. Philadelphia is in no hurry whatsoever. Really,
there shouldn't be anyways. That's the guy I would pick. Yes,
that's the guy I would pick personally myself, that's who
I would pick me. I think it's possible. I mean,
(23:46):
there's a Brady Martin's been moving up the board. If
they're still trying to keep on attack that center position,
I could see them picking that. I don't see them
taking Eagans just I don't know why. I just don't.
I'm not but I think part of that has to
do with the fact that I believe Hagen's wants so
(24:09):
badly to be an Islander that, uh, the Islanders are
likely going to move up in this draft, and there's
not too many people that mind them moving up that
people are afraid that if they sign him, he's not
he's not going to be very happy. And then he
he that he likely will just play out his contracts
(24:30):
and go play with the Islanders. Anyways, That's what I'm
hearing anyways.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So Okay, I think.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
And if that's who I like and the most the
one that, if I think it's most possible there for me,
would be either Martin or O'Brien, one of.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
The Okay, what do you I absolutely mirror exactly what
you what you said parallel. I absolutely would personally me
myself would take on Kayshawn Agentson In our other show,
Prospect Watch. Hop on over to Steal Flyers dot Com
slash link slash Prospect Watch Show to check that out. Well,
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you can see the interview that we did with Kayshawn Agentsen.
And I gotta tell you that kid has got Philadelphia
Flyer written all over him. I don't care about offense
when you play defense.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
And he's offense. By the way, he had twenty six goals.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Led I mean led the team defensively in goals and everything. Okay,
but I, like I said off camera, uh, when we
talked to Kayshawn, he said that coach would come to
him and say, we need you to take out Porter Martone,
and Porter Marton would not show up on the stat
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sheet that game, okay, And they'd say, hey, we need
you to go up against against Michael Misa and Michael
Mesa wouldn't have any stats on the statuet for that game.
That's kind of guy that Philadelphia needs right now is
kion agents. Who I think they're gonna take is probably
Martin or O'Brien, and I would not have a problem
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with either of them.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
A problem with Hagens, would not have a problem with
him at all at all.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I would love that.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
If he's still on the board by the time six
pick comes around and they don't select him.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well, I think you know, like I said, this happens
in the draft, and there's a lot of things that
are gonna happen in the draft. If his if he's
told his agents, look, I want to be an islander
and they go into the thing and he says he
wants to be an islander. I know you like to
grab him, but it's it's why take it to guy?
We already had it happen, and I would talk about
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it when when they were and I said that when
we were doing the draft. He doesn't want to be
a flyer. He shouldn't be. Yeah, yeah, And I know
he was the best available, but I think they tried
to convince the guy. Man he's a Pittsburgh guy. It's
all because he hates Philadelphia that much. Wow, that is crazy, dude.
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All right, Hey, that's another thing for another day, for
another day.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But okay, so.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Let's go to the other picks there.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Funny too, I don't think Philadelphia is going to stay there.
I think they're going to move up.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It's going to be tough to move out in that spot.
People are really the perception is there's not much there
on the late.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I got you. But okay, so don't worry.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
You want to move up to well, I want to
move up to like seventeen or fifteen or something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So, like so if you do pick uh, if you
do if if you do select A on A, or
if you do pick McQueen, or if you do pick O'Brien,
or if you do pick Martin at six, I think
maybe you might want to move up to get agents in.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't think he should have falled out far though, right,
he's not getting past Pittsburgh. Okay, I don't want him
to have You don't want Pittsburgh to.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I know I was trying. I know I was trying
because because I.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Know Pittsburgh, there's no way, so you'd have to try
to trade up with Pittsburgh to get it. And I
just I don't think get up that high.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Hey, I can dream, I can dream, right.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Okay, all right, So now the second to last pick
in the first round, Philadelphia has.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
So the twenty two if they stay there.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
The thirty first.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Oh, we haven't talked about the twenty two.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But okay, twenty two. Yeah, I'm sorry, no twenty Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Personally, if it's me now, I'm going to ask you actually,
because you're more of a Philadelphia Flyer right then, Like,
as far as insider is concerned nor knowledgeable, because you're
it's the one that you're your team and all that,
what do you think about those two Russian goaltenders? What
kind of a shot do they go to improve?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I do like them, but I personally feel that you're
gonna see either u Eleiah Nunswander or ravens Bergen be
the first two goalies to go.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
No, but I mean your Russian goaltenders in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Ohio and Kozloft. Well, Kosloft is going back to the KHL.
So that's out right. So so we're rolling. We're rolling
with Erson and Fidotov.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Okay, So here's why philosophy. Most of these guys here
are either most of these guys in these spots are
either boom or bust or probably middle six. You might
get lucky and they'll go higher than that that I've
known that I can tell this might be the only time,
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not only time, but Joshua Ravensbergen, from all accounts i've heard,
has a really, really, really good chance to be a
number one. And if you told me to choose a
tween or two three or a boom or bust, or
take my shot at a at a number one goaltender,
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especially if I'm Philadelphia, who you know how it's been
in Philadelphia with goaltenders.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I think a lack of goaltenders in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, I think I'm taking Joshua Ravensburg. I think I'm
taking a shot at it in what has been considered
a weaker draft. Now, when I say a weaker draft.
Like you said, it doesn't mean that these players are
not going to be NHL capable players. This doesn't mean
that at all, But it does mean that it's the
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likelihood of picking up a top six down here, it's
pretty slim, you know. So if I if I'm looking
for the one the player that's going to give me
the greatest value, if Ravensburg and even turns into a
one B or one A, I think you're getting greater
value for a Philadelphia Flyers team that really doesn't has
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it has really once. I think we need to want
to solidify their goaltending in the future and for now,
at the same time, they don't want to. I don't
think Philadelphia Flyers want to go have any more talk
anymore about this goal tender stuff, you know what I mean. Like,
once they're good, once they're really good, last thing the
Philadelphia Flyers want is to be really good and be
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shut down because their goaltending hasn't been good enough. Again.
I just think that from everything I've heard, I like
Joshua Ravensburger. Now if they don't go that direction, I've
heard a lot of great things about a lot of guys.
I mean if Lyndon Lakovic is still there, I really
love him, but I don't think he will be. And
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there's one guy he's but he's on the only thing
is the tough part. He is on the smaller side.
And I think Philly's just got too many small players
right now. But one of the scouts that I really
really respect, keeps talking about that, Colin Potter now over
and over and over again, just saying he's gonna He's
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going to be the surprise of the late drafts, late
picks in the draft. So I'm just throwing out there.
I'm not saying that Philly, but if you, if you
have me, choose between you know, a smaller guy when
when Philadelphia is really kind of small on the top
YEA or number one possible goaltender. I'm probably going with
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Joshua Ravensbergen. But you probably have talked to a lot
of these kids more talk to a A. You know,
you've been more involved with this prospect stuff. So what
do you think?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
So we did speak to Lakovic, we did speak to
the lack of Vic. Great great player. I really think
he's going to go in the first round. I don't
think he's I don't necessarily think he might be available
at twenty two.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't think he's going.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
To be available twenty two. Another name that I'm kind
of tossing around is Rumbach. Yep, Jacob Rumbach. I really
like this kid. He's another prospect Watch alum that we
interviewed him as well to and this this this kid has.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Got all the tools. He has got all the tools.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I think he would be another way to chip away
at that Philadelphia Flyers, you know, need up the middle, right.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But I also agree with.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
What you're saying to Perlow only I and we did
speak to Ravensbergen, and we also spoke to the other
goalie that I would much rather have Leah Nuwan Swander. Oh,
I like him better in that slot. I think I
think his game doesn't need to be it still needs
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some work. He needs work on his glove hand and
he needs work, you know what I mean, Uh to
down in the butterfly and stuff like that, and if
he's gonna decide to go to the butterfly or not,
or he needs a little.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Coaching on that side, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
But I think his game is a little bit more
polished than Ravensbergen's game is. And I think but I
also think too that both goalies are gonna need.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Time down in the HL for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Okay, you're you're not gonna see these guys, even if
they're picked in the first round. You're not gonna see
them play right away. Okay, they need that seasoning.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
But I just probably years away.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, but I give I give the nod a little
bit more to a Leah than I do to to Josh.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
So you already mentioned.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, Rombach I think would be good.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Even Malcolm Spence might might be a good name to
throw in there as well.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I like him too, Yeah, that was another one I
was looking at Spence.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeap, Lyndon Lakovic would be another great pick for Philadelphia there.
I think that would be an amazing schedule. That would
be a steal for them if they could get him
at twenty two.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I think I think so too. I don't think he's
gonna make it there.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I have heard I have heard for some reason that
Bear has been falling down the draft.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I wouldn't mind kicking Carter Bear.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, I've heard for some reason, I don't know why,
all right, but he's been falling down. I don't know
if he had some injury issues or something, because I know,
like early in the season he was like talking talk ten,
no problems, and then every time I go to look
at him, he's like falling down and falling down and
falling out. So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Carter Bart was another player that we spoke to as well,
and and another another driven player. I think it would
be h We posted out a show tonight on prospect
Watch with a very special guest from Sullivan Hockey, mister
Bill Sullivan, and and he coached some of these players
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that are going to be drafted, and he was able
to give me some of the insight on some of
these players and how he was able to help these
guys and get them to the point now where you
know he's going to be able to proudly say, hey,
graduation day for his players.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Right, So, by the way, hop on over to Sullivan
HOWK or solely hockey dot Com.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And check him out. Man.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
He's he's he's teaching the guys the right things. Man,
He's doing it the right way, and he's a consummate
professional and was an honor to speak to him on
the show. So check him out. All right, So I
think we got twenty two covered. What do you think
about thirty one?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
All right?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
This is another one A couple. There's like three scouts
that are really paid attention to because they seem to
be accurate all the time. Yeah, and all of them
like this player at varying degrees. But one of them
likes them like them, really likes him and would actually
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pick him way higher than he than we would. Then
Philadelphia would be able to get him here. And that's
Bill's on it. Okay, that's they say that they just
love his attitude. Yeah, he's like one of those guys
that will just find a way. He's he's one of
those find away guys. He's smart enough that he can
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he can vary his game. He can play both right
and left equally as well, which is really important, which
is really nice to have. And he's just a smart player.
But his physical tools are not are average to above
average depending on which tools you're talking about. But he's
the kind of guy that he's a smart player that
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plays that's willing to do anything. And I think in
these spots. That kind of attitude is great to have.
I mean, you know, willing to do any that's kind
of was the Philadelphia way too, right, Like athletes, that's
what those old That's what when people say I want
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to get back to that old Philadelphia hockey, that was it.
These These were players who were willing to do anything,
not often, not sometimes not legal, but.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
It was all good.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
But they were willing to do And Bob Clark, you know,
was like the king of that exact and and that
kind of he kind of exuded that energy all through
the room. And Bill's on and apparently is just like that.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Now.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I've heard a lot of other people speak extremely high
of the gas Stream kid playing total Yeah. Yeah, I've
heard like him go like a lot higher than they are.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Right now, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw my name out
here at you, okay, okay, and this is this is
I think it's gonna be one of the steals of
the draft. I think he's going to be one of
the sleepers of the draft because I don't think anybody's
gonna expect it because nobody's talking about him, at least
I haven't seen or heard of anybody talking about him,
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Aiden Park.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
You're right, I haven't been hearing about him at all,
but Aiden.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Park, Aiden Park, that's going way off the board. I
think it's way off the board. But he's in his
draft year plus one.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Okay, he's young, he's a young fore.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Well, he's nineteen, he's plus one.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
He's plus one on his draft year.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
So he didn't get drafted last year. Correct, Okay, all right, but.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
First of all, he's got it in his blood because
I think his uncle played, right, was a really good player.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
But this kid, when we interviewed him on prospect Watch,
I gotta tell you something. We talked to a lot
of kids, and this kid came right out and told
us that he was not ready to be drafted last year. Okay,
that he didn't have his best year and he was
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not ready to be drafted. Remember how we talked about
this earlier, where guys reached that maturity level at different
levels at different times in their lives.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Well, okay, a guy that wasn't just boomed immaturity, what.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Was immature at the time, but now gained that maturity
and it's not ready to is he?
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Haf Asian?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
So he's what's his name played for Pittsburgh's Sun. Uh, yeah,
I know, I know. I think I bet shit's him.
He was like one of the first st Asians to
ever play hockey. I'll tell you in a second.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, I don't continue talking.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Okay, but I think he's He's got the size, he's
got the shot. He's had that extra year to fine
tune his game to the point now where I think
he is at a point now where he can be drafted,
not just drafted, but be a good contributor on a
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team sooner rather than later, because of his age, because
of his experience. I think you pick him up at
thirty one, right, You start him off down the fantoms,
get him rolling right, and then see what you can do.
See if you can bring him up, See how he
works out in camps, see how things fly. You never know,
(42:36):
he might make the team. He might fill that three
line or fourth line player or whomever. You understand what
I'm saying, right, right?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Did I draw long enough for knowing I need to
keep going?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
No? No, I just find an interest. I'm almost positive
he is the son of Richard Park was born in
South Korea as father. Okay, part of he's the son
of Richard Park. Now, it's amazing when you tell me
that story, because that's almost the exact story of his father. Okay,
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his father was a was a late blooming guy that
came out of nowhere. Uh, same sort of thing. I
don't know if it was necessarily maturity or just recognition
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
The when when you got a guy that says that
to you, that admits that to you. Look, everybody on
the planet that plays hockey, that wants to play hockey
for a living. Draft day is all I mean, that's
the culmination. That's that's when the dreams happen. That's when
you know the magic words. You know your name is
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called and you get to walk up on stage and
hold up that jersey and smile in front of everybody. Right,
all that work, all that dedication, all that time gets
gets put into that and your name doesn't get called.
And you got enough wherewithal and enough hutzpah to say
that you weren't ready to be drafted, and you glad
(44:11):
you weren't drafted that year, and you're ready this year.
And I think he's going to be drafted and I
would take him at thirty one all day long.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Are you listening, Danny?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Hello? He yah. So I'm going to tell you something
that I want to look down his wicked on Wikipedia.
Richard Park did not put I know he's married. He
didn't put any of his family members on his Wikipedia
didn't have to say what his children are. And if
you look at Richard Park and you look at Aden Park,
(44:40):
you'll know that's his dad.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Okay, well all right, so but here's the thing that
means that Richard Park did not want his name attached
to his son.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
In other words, he didn't want his son to get
the recognition from his name to be selected in the draft.
He is purposely separating himself from that. That's a very
character move. So that this his his father. Having a
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father that played in the NHL is a huge benefit.
And you know, so this kid, you say, okay, well,
he was a little immature, that's why he wasn't ready
or whatever the case may be. But actually for a
nineteen year old kid to come out and say that,
it's the exact opposite. This is a kid that's very mature.
Most nineteen year old yeah, but even most nineteen year
(45:37):
olds would never say that's what I'm saying. That's what
I'm saying. So he's very mature. He's the exact opposite.
He was just regular immature before. Now now he's actually
woke up at nineteen. How many people woke up at nineteen?
I can tell you I didn't.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
A lot of people didn't, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
So i'd say very mature. Actually, yeah, that's I gotta
keep them mind. I'm going to keep God and heard
about him, and like I said, that's why I always
revert to you on this stuff, because you've got more
insight on these guys because you interview them and stuff. Yeah. Man,
So I'll keep that in mind. If I can find
a way to do it, I'll try to bring up
that guy. Okay, I'll say that. I'll say my buddy
(46:21):
Steele is the one that brought out.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
This has been so awesome.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I just wanted to get your take on the Zegras trade.
I wanted to get your take on the first round
picks that Philadelphia Flyers are gonna be selecting. I think
there's gonna be a lot of players out there for
the Philadelphia Flowers to select. Danny Breer is going to
have a lot to pick from, and I'm just hoping
that he is continuing to do his due diligence and
(46:51):
continuing to make the selections that he's trying to make,
because for the first time in a really long time,
I think there's a huge amount of trust in this
organization now in Philadelphia, with the management that they now
have in place with Key Ownes, with Danny Briere, and
then with other guys they brought in like John McClair,
(47:12):
Patrick Sharp, you know what I mean. And this whole
organization has completely done one hundred and eighty degrees from
what it was just a scoch three years ago, you
know what I mean. I don't necessarily feel that the
(47:33):
Flyers are gonna be in contention next year, but I
think they might be knocking on the door a lot
more closer than what they were the.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Last two years.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
No, I think, yeah, No, it seems to me that
they have well, first of all, it seems to me
they have uh kind of patience. Now it seems to
me that they they have a philosophy. But I mean
(48:10):
it's yeah, a bit of a plan. I mean, I'm
a little with their building. I'm a little concerned that
there's not too many like two way guys coming up
through that organization. It's very offensive orientated. But on the
other hand, I understand because offense is one of the
hardest things to find. So the basically, for me, you
(48:34):
know what, I see more than anything here, I don't.
I don't see it like it used to be. With
the old regime. There was kind of like a level
of conceit and I don't see that so much now.
I see people that are willing to go, you know what,
we kind of made a mistake there, or you know,
they're willing. They they they they're much more open minded. Yes,
(48:59):
I think now that would be the way to put it.
They have more of an open mind to a plan.
They're not afraid to adjust when they need to. We're
not afraid to go you know what, Okay, maybe that
didn't work out, so well, let's go this way. Yeah.
And I would much rather see that than the old regime.
It seemed like they were so afraid of being wrong
(49:20):
that they ended up being more wrong.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
All day long.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
I understand exactly what you're saying. They tried so hard
to not be wrong that they ended up being wrong
or more wrong, wrong, right.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Yeah, I like that. I like that aspect.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Okay, all right, that's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
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quite the journey, yes, and it's nice to be back
with you again. Get into some great hockey discussion. We're
talking about the draft today. Yeah, man, one of my
favorite times of the year, the time off from everything.
Turn off my phone, don't bother calling me anything. If
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the draft, oh.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Man, I'll tell you. I'm you and me both.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'm super excited.
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I appreciate that. So here we go, folks, episode number
one ninety six. Big Trades just at the beginning here
for the Philadelphia Flyers of the draft. It is just
around the corner here in big trades that happening here
for the Flyers, And we got to talk a little
bit about that, and I brought in a expert, if
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you will, to talk about Philadelphia Flyers, about the draft
and about what we kind of think about the trade
that happened and everything like that. So let's do that, Steve.
Let's talk about that first, right off right. Philadelphia Flyers
the other day traded Ryan Poling for Trevor Segres to
the Anaheim Ducks. They also let go a twenty twenty
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five fourth round pick in twenty twenty six fifth round
pick to Anaheim for Trevor Zegres and of course Ryan Polling.
So what is your initial reaction to that one.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
They're parallel.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, it's Cera, I mean Pealing's you know, he's a
good third line center, no doubt, and a lot of
teams you might be a fourth line center. He had
a good offensive year last year, though, Yeah, given the opportunity.
It's one of those guys is just just seems to
find a way to be part of the team anyway
you can, whether it's potting the couple, you know, maybe
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getting physical. He tries to be as good defensively as
he can. I mean he's not really He's a jack
of all trades, tech guy. And you're never gonna question
Palin's heart, That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I'll never question it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know who. He reminds me of Scott Lawton now
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Has the same kind of game, same kind of body style,
same kind of you know, production or lack of or whatever. Right,
even though he did have a good offensive year this
past year, right, but we also got clear of some
cap space money too, because he just signed an extension
right for a couple of years, and so his cap
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basically goes away, and then Trevor Zegres is in for
a one year. The rest of his remaining deal is
only one year left on his deal, right, and then
he becomes a restricted free agent at the end of
next season.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So we know that Trevor Segress comes with a little
bit of baggage. He's got some of that you know,
injury kind of issue thing going on. He's also potentially
got some other issues going on. But I want to
know what your thoughts are on this whole Segres thing
here to Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I think it's a boom or bust type of thing.
I don't think complete boss. I don't think Zegres is
ever going to be a complete boss. Too much tele
to be a complete bust, right, And uh, he's in
Nanaheid and obviously they never saw him as a center,
And I think that's really what the heart of this
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thing was. The discrepancy between the team and him is
is for one thing, if you're a player and you
were drafted as a center, where the money is is
playing center. So he's gonna want if he thinks he's
a center, and you can't really, you know, fault the
guy for wanting to be the best or thinking he
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is the best he can be, right, and he wants
and wanting to be the best that he can be.
And I think there was a little bit of an
issue there also, as you mentioned, there were some things
that his let's just put it out there. His maturity
has seemed to be an issue for ever since he
was in college, all of those sort of things. And
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by maturity, I'm not putting the kid down, the guy down.
It's everybody mature into a man at different timing. Now
what I think Philadelphia sees here. His hands are amazing,
he's got a great shot. Not the best skater in
the world, but he's not terrible either, and he's got
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all the offensive tools that you want. It's just every
when you see him out of his best days, he
just is so enticing. You own it. It's like, come on,
I don't want that guy on my team. And then
he has other days where maybe it's not so much,
and his three zone defensive play, it's got a lot
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of work to do. All those sort of things like that.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
This is my guest this is my guest. I don't know.
I don't have any inside information on this. I think
there's been a lot of talk about with Zegers's agent
and so on and over like that. Because he's sitting
at about five and a half. When he becomes a restricted,
they're gonna have to owe him, uh least a qualifying offer,
which is going to push him up to six something.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Or something like something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, So I think between him and there, I think
they went to his agent and said, look, we see
a lot of potential on this point, no doubt about it.
Great potential. Here's the thing. Let's get down to brass
talks here. These are that we don't mind. And obviously
I was going to say, Palin is a good third
line guy, fourth line on some teams. A couple of
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draft picks for a kid who was drafted what tenth overall? Nice? Nice,
Let's face it, not the greatest return for anaheut. Okay, no, no, no, no,
let's face it. It's not the greatest return. So what
does that tell you?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, but let me let me argue this fact. I'm
giving away the forty fifth overall pick with this draft
being as deep as it is, and a lot of
people are thinking that this draft isn't as deep as
it is, and I disagree with that. I think there
is a lot of kids that are going to come
out of this draft. Look, just because there's not the
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generational you know, Ciddy Crosby or Connor McDavid in this draft,
there is a there's just too many players in this
draft on all sides of the ice and in net
that are are going to be good quality starting NHL
players as far as I'm concerned. And that's what I
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mean by this draft being deep. Okay, to where you're
going to be able to get a guy still in
the fourth or fifth round. He might be two or
three years away, but he's going to be able to
contribute to the team as a starting player, is what
I'm trying to get to.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I don't disagree with you. I think the perception of
not being deep is what they mean is the after
you could past about twenty to the third round, there's
not much separation. So a lot of these guys in
the LA first are gonna be looking to try to
trade down into the seconds because you can get a
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similar player down there as they are here. That's what
I mean by that kind of deep right, Well, what
I'm saying is is like, it's not the greatest return
for Anaheim. If you had a lot of teams interested
in a kid that's as young as he is. You know,
he didn't have the greatest year last year, but he
has put up some points that you probably would have.
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And I think that hell a lot to do with
the fact that the kid wanted to play center. So
I think that they went to him and said, look,
this is the way it's going to be. This is
the way we'd liked it to be. We believe in
the kid, but if we don't see the results, we're
gonna go this way. Well, we're probably gonna only give
him a qualifying offer. If you start asking us for
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nine or ten million dollars or something for this kid,
then we're not making the deal. And out there there
is really not any there's not too many teams leaving
this kid to be a center, and we're gonna give
him a shot. So what do you say? You know?
So they they kind of went because Philly really it's
not easy to get centers and where they're drafting a
lot of the time right now, figure and they don't
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really have those centers. You know they're coming up. Well,
what's his name? Chenko could be one of those guys.
But so I think it just worked for Philly to
give the kid a shot. And just because the kid
has taken along a wild and mature How many times
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have we seen players. There's lots of players. Travis Green,
Remember Travis Green. Even he himself says, before I was
twenty seven years old, I would I would not have
wanted to coach me. After twenty seven I would have
and he was not that he took off around twenty six.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, hey, take some guys a little longer, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And I think what you're saying, okay, well, I think
a guy like Rick Talkett, forget about his playing coaching
style on the ice all you want, I think one thing,
he is really good at his character and helping people
bring out the character, maturing maturing players.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I'm not going to disagree with you on that at all.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
That's what I think the main reason for talking being
there is right now, not just for Vegers, but for
all these guys. Nobody can I don't think anybody can
would say that Rick Talcket is not a good person
when it comes to helping people have character and having characters.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, no, I agree with you one hundred percent on that.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And all of that goes together. And this kid, he matures,
he matures. I see like they just hit pay dirt
on that kid, like Peter. I think they did really well.
Do you mean if he's going to turn up? Yeah,
I don't have a crystal ball, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I listened to both the Briere press conference about the
Trevor Zegres trade, and he said this was something that
they've been having to be patient about, something that they
probably wanted to do ever since they brought in Jamie Drysdale,
you know what I mean. I think that was something
that Philadelphia has been working on now for the last
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two years. He even said that in this press conference too.
Danny Rare said that we have been kind of, you know,
coveting this guy for a while, and at one point
when when we could do things, they couldn't do things,
and you know, it just worked out that they were
able to both do things at the same time this
time around. And so I was like, well, all right, okay,
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And then listen to the press conference of Trevor Zegris
and you can definitely tell that he feels like, just
based off of what he said, you know, he feels
like there's it just seems like there's a weight lifted
off of him now, you know, leaving that Anaheim behind
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and now is getting a fresh start here in Philadelphia,
a fresh chance. You know, he's back with his buddy.
You know, he also spent time with Cam York because
Cam York is a California guy, right, so they all
spent time together. Cam York did, along with with Jamie
Drysdale and along with you know, Trevor's segres.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So I mean it should be interesting, It.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Could be interesting for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
As far as I'm concerned, this is basically a high
upside with low cost for Philadelphia. Okay, uh, you didn't
really give that much up. I mean you gave up
another Scott Lawton, which I think either a jet Lichenko
or a Rashard or somebody that's coming up from through
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the system might slot in to fill that role.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Do you know what I mean? Exactly exactly?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You know, a third line center or a third line
player is is a little easier to get.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Than a one C or a two C.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So all right, well, so now that's the next question
I got for you. So, if they are gonna try
him at center, are they gonna make him the one
seed or the two c So I mean like, who
do you put him with? Do you put him with
Mitch kaff and and and connect me or or I
mean who do you put on the wing with him?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
That's uh, that's a tough one because I think you
got to give him every opportunity to succeed right away. Yeah,
you're probably gonna throw them up there on the top
one on the top of I have a feeling. I
have a feeling for the first ten or fifteen games
or so Rick talk, it's just gonna let these guys
fly and get confident, and you're gonna see some high
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scoring games and stuff like that. Just you know what,
you guys figure each other out offensively, and then they'll
slowly start building a defensive, especially for Tortorella's Wait, you know,
tell the Tortorella you know.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It's handcuffed everybody, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's not like what Tortorella is
trying to do is not what you're supposed to do.
But sometimes you got to let guys have some fun
and just go out there and it's.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Not fun when you make it not fun. And I
think that's what happened with Tortorella. I think he made
it not fun. Okay, he made it more. That's just
my opinion.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Okay, we'll get into that. Maybe because you know my
affinity for John, I love.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It, and you know, look, and I even came out
and admitted that I was wrong that because I did
not I was not a fan of Tortorella coming in
to coach the Phildelphia Flyers, but I committed and admitted
after his first year that he was absolutely the perfect
coach to come in and coach Philadelphia because of the
attitude that he had, the way he protects his players
and the things that he does.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
But with the team and for the team, it's.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Just that I think that you know, Towards has that
three or four year shelf life.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think I think he thought he could do what
they were wanting to do and then found out he can't.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Well, they got rid of when they got rid of
Scott Lawton. I think that was the straw that broke
the camel's back for Tortorella.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
He just cannot think of the game in a losing capacity. Correct, Yes,
he cannot do it. He's not. He could, but he can't.
He So that that's really what it comes right down.
He just can't handle it. So he tried. Didn't work right?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well, Okay, so I think we can put that to
bed here a little bit. But I want to touch
it a little bit on a quick little preview here
because Philadelphia it's in a very unique situation here in
two days time, they're going to be able to select
three picks.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Here in the first round.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, they have the sixth pick, sixth overall, twenty second overall,
and thirty first overall. I think it is right from
the oilers, right, Okay, So everybody's got their mock drafts,
everybody's got their predictions.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
What your.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So if you were Philadelphia or Danybriere and you get
the sixth pick, who do you like?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Who do you think is going to be available? I
don't know, I'll.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Get Let's go with who's going to be available? Part first?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, let's try that. Who's going to be available?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
M let's try that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
From what I'm seeing, there's there's one little aspect of
me for what I do for a living, is you.
There's one aspect that at books, as they're called, do
really good at is they seem to know who's going
to get drafted. Okay, yeah, number one it's Schaefer, there's
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no doubt about.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
That, agreed.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
The number two, there's talk that maybe that San Jose
is looking at another plane. I'll talk him here in
a bit. And I didn't know who I liked until
I found out how well he was defensively. And I
think number two is without a doubt, Michael Missa. Yeah,
apparently he looks like it's it's questionable whether he's going
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to be a center. I hear most people think that
I know that are really knowledgeable about this put him
in like the Fiala Kempe type.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, I'm feeling that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, not too bad, not too bad, too bad, okay, Chicago.
I'm almost positive that it's going to be Anton Frundell. Ye.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Because first of all, he's raw defensively, but he has
the mind for it. He just hasn't been taught it.
And I think he's gonna be really good by the way,
two way players are gonna be of huge value moving forward,
a lot more than high more than high point totals.
If you don't think so, look at the Florida Panthers.
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That's what that's the model. Now that everybody's going for.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So amazingly, the plus minus is coming into play.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Imagine that. I mean, it's even deeper than that. It's
getting like no, but you know what I mean. The
Florida Panthers spend and you would be unbelievable amount of
money on some of the brightest analytics people in the game,
and they have been for a long time, so they
know they they really go that direction a lot. But
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I'll go into that some other day. But I'm only
saying that because it applies to what I'm saying. There's
two adjectives that come that I hear all the time
when talking about Fronde Frondell, fierce and menacing in the
offensive zone. When those words start popping out to about
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a player nowadays, when you're looking at guys like Bennett Chuck,
guys like that that are winning, can almost be assured
they're gonna get a high priority. So I think fron
Deell is going to be number three, number four. Questionable,
whether a lot of talk about that Utah is going
to move on here and you're getting man, it's all
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over the table. Some people are saying Hagan, some people
are saying Dione, some people are saying I've heard but
Queen even that high or Marton. I think it would
be Marton. I think Marton's probably going to go somewhere there.
I think they need that side that. He's not really
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as physical as a lot of as ay as people
would like, but he's got good size. He's a great playmaker. Ye,
he's skating isn't very good. Apparently he's getting compared. I'm
not saying he's gonna be as good as these guys
like Stone and guys like that.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Agreed, Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Okay, that's where he's gonna compare it. So then you
have the Nashville Predators, and I think from all everything
i'm hearing, don A seems to be the one that's
been popping out.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm seeing too. Yet, Okay,
the X.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Factor is the next guy here, and that is Brady Martin.
So that would be Philadelphia. Jacob Brian is why that
I really love just for his attitude, personality, Uh, compete
and all of those sort of things like that. But
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you're asking me, you're asking me now who I think
they're gonna pick and who I want them to pick.
And we've been talking about this before. I love Huson,
I just absolutely love this kid. Yeah, he's down at eleven.
I honestly, I'm not worried about whether they need a center.
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They aren't like they got Zerrus. They're giving him a
shot there right now. Philadelphia is in no hurry whatsoever. Really,
there shouldn't be anyways. That's the guy I would pick. Yes,
that's the guy I would pick personally myself, that's who
I would pick me. I think it's possible. I mean,
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there's a Brady Martin's been moving up the board. If
they're still trying to keep on attack that center position,
I could see them picking that. I don't see them
taking Eagans just I don't know why. I just don't.
I'm not but I think part of that has to
do with the fact that I believe Hagen's wants so
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badly to be an Islander that, uh, the Islanders are
likely going to move up in this draft, and there's
not too many people that mind them moving up that
people are afraid that if they sign him, he's not
he's not going to be very happy. And then he
he that he likely will just play out his contracts
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and go play with the Islanders. Anyways, That's what I'm
hearing anyways.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So Okay, I think.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
And if that's who I like and the most the
one that, if I think it's most possible there for me,
would be either Martin or O'Brien, one of.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
The Okay, what do you I absolutely mirror exactly what
you what you said parallel. I absolutely would personally me
myself would take on Kayshawn Agentson In our other show,
Prospect Watch. Hop on over to Steal Flyers dot Com
slash link slash Prospect Watch Show to check that out. Well,
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you can see the interview that we did with Kayshawn Agentsen.
And I gotta tell you that kid has got Philadelphia
Flyer written all over him. I don't care about offense
when you play defense.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
And he's offense. By the way, he had twenty six goals.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Led I mean led the team defensively in goals and everything. Okay,
but I, like I said off camera, uh, when we
talked to Kayshawn, he said that coach would come to
him and say, we need you to take out Porter Martone,
and Porter Marton would not show up on the stat
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sheet that game, okay, And they'd say, hey, we need
you to go up against against Michael Misa and Michael
Mesa wouldn't have any stats on the statuet for that game.
That's kind of guy that Philadelphia needs right now is
kion agents. Who I think they're gonna take is probably
Martin or O'Brien, and I would not have a problem
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with either of them.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
A problem with Hagens, would not have a problem with
him at all at all.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I would love that.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
If he's still on the board by the time six
pick comes around and they don't select him.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well, I think you know, like I said, this happens
in the draft, and there's a lot of things that
are gonna happen in the draft. If his if he's
told his agents, look, I want to be an islander
and they go into the thing and he says he
wants to be an islander. I know you like to
grab him, but it's it's why take it to guy?
We already had it happen, and I would talk about
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it when when they were and I said that when
we were doing the draft. He doesn't want to be
a flyer. He shouldn't be. Yeah, yeah, And I know
he was the best available, but I think they tried
to convince the guy. Man he's a Pittsburgh guy. It's
all because he hates Philadelphia that much. Wow, that is crazy, dude.
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All right, Hey, that's another thing for another day, for
another day.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But okay, so.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Let's go to the other picks there.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Funny too, I don't think Philadelphia is going to stay there.
I think they're going to move up.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It's going to be tough to move out in that spot.
People are really the perception is there's not much there
on the late.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I got you. But okay, so don't worry.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
You want to move up to well, I want to
move up to like seventeen or fifteen or something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So, like so if you do pick uh, if you
do if if you do select A on A, or
if you do pick McQueen, or if you do pick O'Brien,
or if you do pick Martin at six, I think
maybe you might want to move up to get agents in.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't think he should have falled out far though, right,
he's not getting past Pittsburgh. Okay, I don't want him
to have You don't want Pittsburgh to.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I know I was trying. I know I was trying
because because I.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Know Pittsburgh, there's no way, so you'd have to try
to trade up with Pittsburgh to get it. And I
just I don't think get up that high.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Hey, I can dream, I can dream, right.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Okay, all right, So now the second to last pick
in the first round, Philadelphia has.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
So the twenty two if they stay there.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
The thirty first.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Oh, we haven't talked about the twenty two.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But okay, twenty two. Yeah, I'm sorry, no twenty Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Personally, if it's me now, I'm going to ask you actually,
because you're more of a Philadelphia Flyer right then, Like,
as far as insider is concerned nor knowledgeable, because you're
it's the one that you're your team and all that,
what do you think about those two Russian goaltenders? What
kind of a shot do they go to improve?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I do like them, but I personally feel that you're
gonna see either u Eleiah Nunswander or ravens Bergen be
the first two goalies to go.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
No, but I mean your Russian goaltenders in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Ohio and Kozloft. Well, Kosloft is going back to the KHL.
So that's out right. So so we're rolling. We're rolling
with Erson and Fidotov.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Okay, So here's why philosophy. Most of these guys here
are either most of these guys in these spots are
either boom or bust or probably middle six. You might
get lucky and they'll go higher than that that I've
known that I can tell this might be the only time,
(30:10):
not only time, but Joshua Ravensbergen, from all accounts i've heard,
has a really, really, really good chance to be a
number one. And if you told me to choose a
tween or two three or a boom or bust, or
take my shot at a at a number one goaltender,
(30:32):
especially if I'm Philadelphia, who you know how it's been
in Philadelphia with goaltenders.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I think a lack of goaltenders in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, I think I'm taking Joshua Ravensburg. I think I'm
taking a shot at it in what has been considered
a weaker draft. Now, when I say a weaker draft.
Like you said, it doesn't mean that these players are
not going to be NHL capable players. This doesn't mean
that at all, But it does mean that it's the
(31:02):
likelihood of picking up a top six down here, it's
pretty slim, you know. So if I if I'm looking
for the one the player that's going to give me
the greatest value, if Ravensburg and even turns into a
one B or one A, I think you're getting greater
value for a Philadelphia Flyers team that really doesn't has
(31:25):
it has really once. I think we need to want
to solidify their goaltending in the future and for now,
at the same time, they don't want to. I don't
think Philadelphia Flyers want to go have any more talk
anymore about this goal tender stuff, you know what I mean. Like,
once they're good, once they're really good, last thing the
Philadelphia Flyers want is to be really good and be
(31:48):
shut down because their goaltending hasn't been good enough. Again.
I just think that from everything I've heard, I like
Joshua Ravensburger. Now if they don't go that direction, I've
heard a lot of great things about a lot of guys.
I mean if Lyndon Lakovic is still there, I really
love him, but I don't think he will be. And
(32:10):
there's one guy he's but he's on the only thing
is the tough part. He is on the smaller side.
And I think Philly's just got too many small players
right now. But one of the scouts that I really
really respect, keeps talking about that, Colin Potter now over
and over and over again, just saying he's gonna He's
(32:33):
going to be the surprise of the late drafts, late
picks in the draft. So I'm just throwing out there.
I'm not saying that Philly, but if you, if you
have me, choose between you know, a smaller guy when
when Philadelphia is really kind of small on the top
YEA or number one possible goaltender. I'm probably going with
(32:57):
Joshua Ravensbergen. But you probably have talked to a lot
of these kids more talk to a A. You know,
you've been more involved with this prospect stuff. So what
do you think?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
So we did speak to Lakovic, we did speak to
the lack of Vic. Great great player. I really think
he's going to go in the first round. I don't
think he's I don't necessarily think he might be available
at twenty two.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't think he's going.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
To be available twenty two. Another name that I'm kind
of tossing around is Rumbach. Yep, Jacob Rumbach. I really
like this kid. He's another prospect Watch alum that we
interviewed him as well to and this this this kid has.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Got all the tools. He has got all the tools.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I think he would be another way to chip away
at that Philadelphia Flyers, you know, need up the middle, right.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But I also agree with.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
What you're saying to Perlow only I and we did
speak to Ravensbergen, and we also spoke to the other
goalie that I would much rather have Leah Nuwan Swander. Oh,
I like him better in that slot. I think I
think his game doesn't need to be it still needs
(34:21):
some work. He needs work on his glove hand and
he needs work, you know what I mean, Uh to
down in the butterfly and stuff like that, and if
he's gonna decide to go to the butterfly or not,
or he needs a little.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Coaching on that side, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
But I think his game is a little bit more
polished than Ravensbergen's game is. And I think but I
also think too that both goalies are gonna need.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Time down in the HL for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Okay, you're you're not gonna see these guys, even if
they're picked in the first round. You're not gonna see
them play right away. Okay, they need that seasoning.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
But I just probably years away.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, but I give I give the nod a little
bit more to a Leah than I do to to Josh.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
So you already mentioned.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, Rombach I think would be good.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Even Malcolm Spence might might be a good name to
throw in there as well.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I like him too, Yeah, that was another one I
was looking at Spence.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeap, Lyndon Lakovic would be another great pick for Philadelphia there.
I think that would be an amazing schedule. That would
be a steal for them if they could get him
at twenty two.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I think I think so too. I don't think he's
gonna make it there.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I have heard I have heard for some reason that
Bear has been falling down the draft.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I wouldn't mind kicking Carter Bear.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, I've heard for some reason, I don't know why,
all right, but he's been falling down. I don't know
if he had some injury issues or something, because I know,
like early in the season he was like talking talk ten,
no problems, and then every time I go to look
at him, he's like falling down and falling down and
falling out. So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Carter Bart was another player that we spoke to as well,
and and another another driven player. I think it would
be h We posted out a show tonight on prospect
Watch with a very special guest from Sullivan Hockey, mister
Bill Sullivan, and and he coached some of these players
(36:40):
that are going to be drafted, and he was able
to give me some of the insight on some of
these players and how he was able to help these
guys and get them to the point now where you
know he's going to be able to proudly say, hey,
graduation day for his players.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Right, So, by the way, hop on over to Sullivan
HOWK or solely hockey dot Com.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And check him out. Man.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
He's he's he's teaching the guys the right things. Man,
He's doing it the right way, and he's a consummate
professional and was an honor to speak to him on
the show. So check him out. All right, So I
think we got twenty two covered. What do you think
about thirty one?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
All right?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
This is another one A couple. There's like three scouts
that are really paid attention to because they seem to
be accurate all the time. Yeah, and all of them
like this player at varying degrees. But one of them
likes them like them, really likes him and would actually
(37:41):
pick him way higher than he than we would. Then
Philadelphia would be able to get him here. And that's
Bill's on it. Okay, that's they say that they just
love his attitude. Yeah, he's like one of those guys
that will just find a way. He's he's one of
those find away guys. He's smart enough that he can
(38:06):
he can vary his game. He can play both right
and left equally as well, which is really important, which
is really nice to have. And he's just a smart player.
But his physical tools are not are average to above
average depending on which tools you're talking about. But he's
the kind of guy that he's a smart player that
(38:28):
plays that's willing to do anything. And I think in
these spots. That kind of attitude is great to have.
I mean, you know, willing to do any that's kind
of was the Philadelphia way too, right, Like athletes, that's
what those old That's what when people say I want
(38:49):
to get back to that old Philadelphia hockey, that was it.
These These were players who were willing to do anything,
not often, not sometimes not legal, but.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
It was all good.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
But they were willing to do And Bob Clark, you know,
was like the king of that exact and and that
kind of he kind of exuded that energy all through
the room. And Bill's on and apparently is just like that.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Now.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I've heard a lot of other people speak extremely high
of the gas Stream kid playing total Yeah. Yeah, I've
heard like him go like a lot higher than they are.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Right now, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw my name out
here at you, okay, okay, and this is this is
I think it's gonna be one of the steals of
the draft. I think he's going to be one of
the sleepers of the draft because I don't think anybody's
gonna expect it because nobody's talking about him, at least
I haven't seen or heard of anybody talking about him,
(39:57):
Aiden Park.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
You're right, I haven't been hearing about him at all,
but Aiden.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Park, Aiden Park, that's going way off the board. I
think it's way off the board. But he's in his
draft year plus one.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Okay, he's young, he's a young fore.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Well, he's nineteen, he's plus one.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
He's plus one on his draft year.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
So he didn't get drafted last year. Correct, Okay, all right, but.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
First of all, he's got it in his blood because
I think his uncle played, right, was a really good player.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
But this kid, when we interviewed him on prospect Watch,
I gotta tell you something. We talked to a lot
of kids, and this kid came right out and told
us that he was not ready to be drafted last year. Okay,
that he didn't have his best year and he was
(41:01):
not ready to be drafted. Remember how we talked about
this earlier, where guys reached that maturity level at different
levels at different times in their lives.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Well, okay, a guy that wasn't just boomed immaturity, what.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Was immature at the time, but now gained that maturity
and it's not ready to is he?
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Haf Asian?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
So he's what's his name played for Pittsburgh's Sun. Uh, yeah,
I know, I know. I think I bet shit's him.
He was like one of the first st Asians to
ever play hockey. I'll tell you in a second.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, I don't continue talking.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Okay, but I think he's He's got the size, he's
got the shot. He's had that extra year to fine
tune his game to the point now where I think
he is at a point now where he can be drafted,
not just drafted, but be a good contributor on a
(42:15):
team sooner rather than later, because of his age, because
of his experience. I think you pick him up at
thirty one, right, You start him off down the fantoms,
get him rolling right, and then see what you can do.
See if you can bring him up, See how he
works out in camps, see how things fly. You never know,
(42:36):
he might make the team. He might fill that three
line or fourth line player or whomever. You understand what
I'm saying, right, right?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Did I draw long enough for knowing I need to
keep going?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
No? No, I just find an interest. I'm almost positive
he is the son of Richard Park was born in
South Korea as father. Okay, part of he's the son
of Richard Park. Now, it's amazing when you tell me
that story, because that's almost the exact story of his father. Okay,
(43:15):
his father was a was a late blooming guy that
came out of nowhere. Uh, same sort of thing. I
don't know if it was necessarily maturity or just recognition
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
The when when you got a guy that says that
to you, that admits that to you. Look, everybody on
the planet that plays hockey, that wants to play hockey
for a living. Draft day is all I mean, that's
the culmination. That's that's when the dreams happen. That's when
you know the magic words. You know your name is
(43:49):
called and you get to walk up on stage and
hold up that jersey and smile in front of everybody. Right,
all that work, all that dedication, all that time gets
gets put into that and your name doesn't get called.
And you got enough wherewithal and enough hutzpah to say
that you weren't ready to be drafted, and you glad
(44:11):
you weren't drafted that year, and you're ready this year.
And I think he's going to be drafted and I
would take him at thirty one all day long.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Are you listening, Danny?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Hello? He yah. So I'm going to tell you something
that I want to look down his wicked on Wikipedia.
Richard Park did not put I know he's married. He
didn't put any of his family members on his Wikipedia
didn't have to say what his children are. And if
you look at Richard Park and you look at Aden Park,
(44:40):
you'll know that's his dad.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Okay, well all right, so but here's the thing that
means that Richard Park did not want his name attached
to his son.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
In other words, he didn't want his son to get
the recognition from his name to be selected in the draft.
He is purposely separating himself from that. That's a very
character move. So that this his his father. Having a
(45:14):
father that played in the NHL is a huge benefit.
And you know, so this kid, you say, okay, well,
he was a little immature, that's why he wasn't ready
or whatever the case may be. But actually for a
nineteen year old kid to come out and say that,
it's the exact opposite. This is a kid that's very mature.
Most nineteen year old yeah, but even most nineteen year
(45:37):
olds would never say that's what I'm saying. That's what
I'm saying. So he's very mature. He's the exact opposite.
He was just regular immature before. Now now he's actually
woke up at nineteen. How many people woke up at nineteen?
I can tell you I didn't.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
A lot of people didn't, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
So i'd say very mature. Actually, yeah, that's I gotta
keep them mind. I'm going to keep God and heard
about him, and like I said, that's why I always
revert to you on this stuff, because you've got more
insight on these guys because you interview them and stuff. Yeah. Man,
So I'll keep that in mind. If I can find
a way to do it, I'll try to bring up
that guy. Okay, I'll say that. I'll say my buddy
(46:21):
Steele is the one that brought out.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
This has been so awesome.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I just wanted to get your take on the Zegras trade.
I wanted to get your take on the first round
picks that Philadelphia Flyers are gonna be selecting. I think
there's gonna be a lot of players out there for
the Philadelphia Flowers to select. Danny Breer is going to
have a lot to pick from, and I'm just hoping
that he is continuing to do his due diligence and
(46:51):
continuing to make the selections that he's trying to make,
because for the first time in a really long time,
I think there's a huge amount of trust in this
organization now in Philadelphia, with the management that they now
have in place with Key Ownes, with Danny Briere, and
then with other guys they brought in like John McClair,
(47:12):
Patrick Sharp, you know what I mean. And this whole
organization has completely done one hundred and eighty degrees from
what it was just a scoch three years ago, you
know what I mean. I don't necessarily feel that the
(47:33):
Flyers are gonna be in contention next year, but I
think they might be knocking on the door a lot
more closer than what they were the.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Last two years.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
No, I think, yeah, No, it seems to me that
they have well, first of all, it seems to me
they have uh kind of patience. Now it seems to
me that they they have a philosophy. But I mean
(48:10):
it's yeah, a bit of a plan. I mean, I'm
a little with their building. I'm a little concerned that
there's not too many like two way guys coming up
through that organization. It's very offensive orientated. But on the
other hand, I understand because offense is one of the
hardest things to find. So the basically, for me, you
(48:34):
know what, I see more than anything here, I don't.
I don't see it like it used to be. With
the old regime. There was kind of like a level
of conceit and I don't see that so much now.
I see people that are willing to go, you know what,
we kind of made a mistake there, or you know,
they're willing. They they they they're much more open minded. Yes,
(48:59):
I think now that would be the way to put it.
They have more of an open mind to a plan.
They're not afraid to adjust when they need to. We're
not afraid to go you know what, Okay, maybe that
didn't work out, so well, let's go this way. Yeah.
And I would much rather see that than the old regime.
It seemed like they were so afraid of being wrong
(49:20):
that they ended up being more wrong.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
All day long.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
I understand exactly what you're saying. They tried so hard
to not be wrong that they ended up being wrong
or more wrong, wrong, right.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Yeah, I like that. I like that aspect.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Okay, all right, that's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Well, folks, I gotta tell you what here, man, we
got a great show here for you. We really appreciate,
we really appreciate you stopping in here and tuning in
and checking this out.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
By the way, if you like we do, please to
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Speaker 1 (49:57):
Why don't you tell the folks where we can find
you and where we can get you and follow you
and all the other great stuff, sir?
Speaker 3 (50:05):
All right, the best thing to do is go on
my Twitter. You can get everything that I do on there.
I do a lot of things, so it's better to
do that than say it on here. And that is
purloughs NHL pow at purlos NHLW. What you'll get there
is my community page where you can become a community member.
I'm gonna be starting a Patreon soon. You can be
(50:27):
part of that. You can also get the work I
do with the ice guys on there, my YouTube videos.
I have my own YouTube video that that's coming on
right now, and I'll probably be posting these videos on there.
Also on my Twitter, I send out a lot of
when NHL is going, I send out a lot of picks.
I got a lot of future stuff going on there,
(50:49):
and I got a lot of takes on there that
people seem to like to hate or love or whatever,
like usual on social media. Then, don't get me wrong,
I'm all with you. I'll get down in there and
hate with you, in love with you and everyone, right man,
And you can catch me on spaces too. I would
like to go on spaces on there and I'll just
(51:11):
randomly go live and anytime you hear something that you
disagree with their love about me or whatever, you come
on you can go live whoever you are at any time.
We can chat about it. And it's a lot of fun.
So awesome, awesome nhlpow on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah, man, we'll have the links there in the description
and we'll have them here rolling here on the show
so we'd be able to see where Pearlo's links are
and all that other great stuff. And Pearlo, thank you
very much man for hopping on here and talking Philadelphia
Flyers hockey.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
Man.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
I really appreciate you doing this and taking the time
out of your busy day to do so, so thank
you very much. I really appreciate that. Thank you all
very much for tuning into The Hockey Writers Inc.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
This is episode.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Number one ninety six. How about that number and one
ninety six, So we got it going on here, folks.
There's no all season for us. By the way, special
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