September 29, 2025 • 28 mins
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Episode: 205 "Flyers Preseason & Training Camp Updates!"
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Welcome to the Hockey Writers Ink, join your host Ron Mont and special guest Russ Cohen as we bring you all the latest on the Philadelphia Flyers and Lehigh Valley Phantoms!
This week's talking points:
1. INTRO and THANKS
2. Training Camp updates:
a. Players going back to Jrs
b. Players going to Phantoms:
3. Injuries so far in camp
D Ethan Samson has an upper-body injury and is expected to be out 6-8 weeks.
D Oliver Bonk remains day-to-day with an upper-body injury.
F Karsen Dorwart remains day-to-day with an upper-body injury.
F Lane Pederson remains day-to-day with an upper-body injury.
4. Flyers not doing so week in preseason -
a. Jett and others not playing up to expectations
5. Flyers have a few preseason games left to work with
6. Phantoms start Training Camp
7. Wrap-up
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Episode: 205 "Flyers Preseason & Training Camp Updates!"
Relax, the press box is closed, but the mic is just getting warmed up!
The show where the writer is fresh off the presses and the ink is not dry!
Welcome to the Hockey Writers Ink, join your host Ron Mont and special guest Russ Cohen as we bring you all the latest on the Philadelphia Flyers and Lehigh Valley Phantoms!
This week's talking points:
1. INTRO and THANKS
2. Training Camp updates:
a. Players going back to Jrs
b. Players going to Phantoms:
3. Injuries so far in camp
D Ethan Samson has an upper-body injury and is expected to be out 6-8 weeks.
D Oliver Bonk remains day-to-day with an upper-body injury.
F Karsen Dorwart remains day-to-day with an upper-body injury.
F Lane Pederson remains day-to-day with an upper-body injury.
4. Flyers not doing so week in preseason -
a. Jett and others not playing up to expectations
5. Flyers have a few preseason games left to work with
6. Phantoms start Training Camp
7. Wrap-up
BIG THANKS to our friends Lower Case Blues for the awesome tunes:
Web: lowercaseblues.net
FaceBook: www.facebook.com/lowercaseblues/
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Russ Cohen
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Check out all the great stuff from Russ on Amazon too!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:05):
Welcome to the Hockey Writers, Inc.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Join your host Ron as we saw all things Philadelphia Flyers.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
And Lee High Valley fan.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the next episode of The
Hockey Waters Inc. With your host ron On and special
guest Russ Coe. And hey Russ, how are you doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Ron? How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Man, I'll tell you what. I'm getting excited. I'm getting excited.
We're getting closer and closer to official puck drop.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, it's getting there.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
It's too many preseason games left, but I know we
have to endure.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
All right, I'm with you, but we're getting closer and
closer pretty soon. That calendar is going to take over
to October and once we get into October, man, that's
when it really starts getting closer and closer. So thank
you all very much for tuning in and checking us out.
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for sure, for sure. We here on episode number two
O five, a Philadelphia Flyers training camp update and a
couple of preseason games left and one being as we're
gonna be filming one here. There's gonna be one starting
(01:36):
here as soon here directly as we're filming against the
Boston Bruins. But Russ, we haven't seen a very good
preseason so far, have we?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
No, we haven't.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I mean, honestly, you want more scoring, you want better defense,
you want better goaltending. You've seen some things here and there,
some flashes here and there, but it's not enough to
make believe that all of a sudden this team's gonna
come together early on.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It's just not.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, okay, And that's kind of what we're going to
get into here a little bit with quite a few
of the players have been moving back and forth now
where we're shrinking the roster down as we keep getting
closer and closer to puck drop, and I want to
talk about some of the players that have been sent
back to juniors, which we all know that Nesbit was
(02:28):
going to be one of the ones that's going back,
and we've talked about this on previous shows where we
feel that most of all these players would do well
to go back.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, I mean, it's not any kind of surprise.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I wasn't gonna write anything like Jack nesbitz close to
the NHL. He's not close to the NHL. So and
it's okay. I like what I see out of Spencer Gilt.
Spencer go went back. He needs to go back because
he needs to put it all together. But yes, he's
making progress. They're all making progress, but none of them
are making progress where there all of a sudden can
(03:05):
skip steps.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, See, that's what I wanted to get to, and
I agree with you one hundred percent, and I'm I'm
a little disappointed, though, if you must know the truth,
I thought I thought we would be seeing a little
more out of some of these guys. I mean, I
want to take, for example, a player that I was
(03:29):
really high on when he first got here.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I thought he played really well last.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Year with the Fantoms, and and you said that he
basically has played himself out out of town, and of
course that rang true. With helgie Grand's being put on waivers,
I mean, what did we miss something here?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
No? I mean, did you have to be put on
waivers to get him down the Lehigh anyhow?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But he had some turnovers, he got turned around a.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Few times, and with the new coach, that's enough to
be on the outs.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
There's enough defensemen there where.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I'm not saying they're all like totally solid, but what
I'm saying is if they're looking at you as a
possible guy to you know, help out in the third pair,
being number seven something like that, and you play like that,
you're pretty much done, at least for now.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, I mean that's that's pretty much the case with
that too. And something else I want to talk about too,
which which you also mentioned in some of your random
wise tweets that you've put out there and some things
that you've put out there that I really much agree with,
and I was really taken aback by it as well,
and that is the lack of the Jet Luchenko. I mean,
(04:45):
we saw flashes last year, we saw it play relatively
okay with it fantoms, I mean, relatively all things considered.
What's the deal with Jet? Is he still on the
hurt side. I mean, he's been clear to play.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Wow, we can't use that, and I think there's been
enough games now where we should see something. Okay, we're
seeing some decent penalty killing once in a while, he
makes a good pass, but he's not a force offensively.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
He's not able to get in the middle of the
ice and make something happen.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They're not going to use him on the power play
if he's not showing anything five on five, because you
haven't earned it. Yeah, So like he's playing like a
nineteen year old player that needs time to develop.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And so that's put you in the spot where it's like, Okay,
what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do
with him?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
And I think the biggest thing here is even if
the organization felt like, hey, this guy's better than people
what people like me think and and he's ahead of
the curve and ahead of his age, that's what you thought,
that's not what reality is. And so like reality has
(05:57):
sort of hit hit home now or it's like, Okay,
you may have thought that, but now I think you're
seeing that that's not there, and that's not on the flyers.
A lot of that's on the player. A lot of
that's all maturing. It's all a complicated process. It's not
a cut and dry process. But I'm just saying expectations
(06:19):
are great, but great expectations many times turn into disappointment.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Especially I think when you move up to get somebody
that wasn't even on anybody's radar. I mean not very
many people. I think we're thinking that jet Lachenko was
going to go to the Flyers, not not.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Spot, but he was definitely on some draft board prognosticated radar.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I got that high.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, I didn't have a feeling of where teams had
a mess. And I don't listen to any team when
a team says, oh they mad it making him next
or what, I don't listen to any of that because
a lot of times that those are things that are
just meant to distract us and send us lost leaders.
And so I don't I don't listen to any of
that for any team. So it's like, it's not that's
not on the Flyers. That's how I address it with
(07:16):
all teams. So I don't go by that. I go, yeah,
if that's your guy, you take your guy, that's fine.
But I also go with Hey, they had a chance
to not sign him to that ELC. Now they signed
him to the ELC, and rumor is because they didn't
(07:36):
want another Cutter go Chase situation. Okay, so, but what
that did was that took him out of any chance
of playing college hockey, which is a great place he
could have played this year.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Now he's in that in between point.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And now this is where it gets a little iffy
as to what to do.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
With him exactly exactly, because I mean, he would probably
be more of a benefit fit with his junior team,
I think than he would be with the Phantoms.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You think, maybe he can't go to the Phantom so
it's irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
No, but I mean I'm just saying, so it'll be
better if.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
He could go to the Phantoms, but it's irrelevant he can't.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Right, Yeah, So well, I.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Don't I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I don't worry about the what ifs, and I only
speak in the in the absolutes, you know, And the
absolute is he's going to either play in Philly or
in Guelph until he gets traded.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
They haven't gotten him traded. Nobody's traded him.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
So those are the two choices on the menu, right, Now,
I don't think they're gonna send him overseas or anything.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So that's it. It's one or the other, and it's
up to them what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
But clearly he's not pulling his weight enough to be
an everyday flyer. So and so, like, are you gonna
play him and then bench him for five six games
to watch? Not bench him, but just you know, sit
him down and watch and let the calendar turn and
wait until World Junior can and send him away and
let him go to the World Juniors and then hope
(09:03):
after that that maybe Gwelf gets tired of him not
reporting and they trade him. Yeah, maybe, And that's kind
of what happened with Shane Wright in a way. But
I don't know if they're going to do that. And
if they don't do that, then guess what then he
does have to go back to wealth.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well there you have it, and there you have it, folks,
right there. You heard it. You heard it here first.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I mean, they're giving him the chance, and yeah, you
can't do it. I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I don't understand the point in stringing them along, Like
it's just there's a there's an early benefit to that.
But then there's a point where, Okay, this guy needs
to be playing playing big minutes, power play, penalty kill everything,
and he's just not going to do that in Philly.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Not right now anyway, not right now.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That's what I mean. Right now, I'm only talking about right.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Now, yep. And I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So okay, there was quite a list of guys that
they sent down to the Fantoms.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm pretty sure you're going to agree with pretty much
all of them. Robertson to Mula Bolton.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I mean, Tuamala is in danger of being a bus though,
Like he's heading down Bustville. And if he heads down Busville,
check out that draft because without Cutter go in that
draft and without Tuamala, they're gonna walk away with nothing
in that draft.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And we talked about this on the last show, where
they need to start hitting on more than one player,
if that I mean, you know what I mean, And they.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Need to start hitting time.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
That's what you gotta do when when you're in this position,
you got to hit two or three at a time,
especially with all these.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Picks exactly exactly, and they just haven't been. Now, this
is really only what Danny's second full year, right right, So,
I mean we're not going to necessarily see the fruits
of all that labor, where we're seeing still the fruits
(10:56):
of the previous administration's labor.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And we all know that, well, that wasn't the best.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
The previous administration. Some of those people are still around too,
so it's.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's exactly exactly. So I mean, there you have it.
I mean, you're gonna have some of those guys that
would you know. I think we talked about it on
the last show, and I think we have to pretty
much stress that this year too. You need to focus
on making the Fantoms a good team.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You need to make them the best team in the AHL.
If you make them the best team in the AHL.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
And they go on a long run and they possibly
win a Calder Cup, then that's going to help the.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Big club exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And it's like we've been pounding this hammer, you know
now in the hammer for a last couple of shows here.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But it's the truth.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But it's not sexy. It's not sexy to do that.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
It's sexier to think about who might play with the Flyers,
what young guys are gonna kind of like jump up
and surprise and everything else. And you know, you see
that most of the time that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
And we don't have that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
There isn't any one of these There's not a single
player that's on the current roster that's that's skating with
the team right now or even that got sent down,
that is that player other than some of the guys
that are already on the club. The Mitchkoff's the connect needs,
you know, that kind of thing. You're just not seeing
those players like that from Philadelphia jump off the page
(12:27):
and jump off the ice that we've seen in the
preseason so far.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
No, I mean, that's true. I mean, but again, you know,
Mitchkoff is a cut above. He is twenty gonna be
twenty one in December. You know, that's quite a difference
when you're talking about, you know, a two year difference
from some of the guys you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
So that's a big deal in development.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Years exactly exactly, especially at that age, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, So, but I like this off at things he
needs to work on.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Oh yeah, you know, like I feel like still in
third periods he doesn't always come up big.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I think he has to work on that.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Like that six on four that they had against Boston,
he didn't really do much in that. Yeah, he's got
to be there at the end of games if he
wants to be that guy. So there's things for him
to work on.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Stiff And and he's had a full like off season
now where he hasn't played anywhere else or anything like that.
He's completely you know, rested from last season to this season,
you know what I mean. So, Okay, I'm excited about
where we're going to see the Mitchikoffs. I'm excited about
(13:42):
where we're going to see the Zegres. I'm excited about
where how how this is all going to go with
the Tyson Forresters and the Owen Tippets and and I'm
excited about what this is all going to do, even
though I know that it's probably not really going to
amount to very much.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No, I mean, they're gonna be one of those eleven
teams in the lottery. They're going to it.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Could be the eleventh or they could be the sixth.
But if you're in it, you're in it like that's
you know that, And that's pretty much the way it works, right.
So I think ultimately they're going to be in it.
As an example, like now they're putting Dvorak on his line,
and I talked about that, like, hey, you've got to
do something to kind of like insulate him for the
(14:28):
defensive zone draws or just draws in general.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And that's what they're doing, and that's fine.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
That's I don't know if Devorak on the second line
is going to be the fix though, because he's proven
he's not a second liner in this league. But this
is kind of like an experimental thing, so I'm not
going to get too deep, but I'll say this. I
saw Zegress on a power play take a face off
and just lose it outright, and I was like, all right,
(14:54):
I think I would just do it in different situations.
But the power play now it looked better like game.
It definitely got some results, which is good. But then
the six on four got no results, and then it
made me think, it's partially there's.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
A little thing in there right.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Not completely, but not completely. But I don't know if
i'd let him take face offs on the power play.
If I want my power play to be really good,
maybe that's the point where I don't have him take
face offs and have him do it in other situations instead.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Okay, it makes yeah, that makes sense too.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
That makes sense too, and and and frankly, I think
that that that's what we even talked about in the
last show, that we've even mentioned. Hey, you know, you
got these preseason games, why not throw these guys together
on the power play and see what you got because.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You want to do that now instead of doing that,
you know, when the games count.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah no, but that's true.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
And you know, so like Nikita Gabreenkin, Grebenkan had a
really good game last game.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I liked what he did.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
He had a nice goal, he played more consistent, and
he still didn't play a perfect whole game. He still
has some issues, but he's ahead of the pack compared
to everybody else. That's, you know, a young player for
them that hasn't played for them. So I give him
the rest of the preseason. I give him a little
(16:17):
bit of the regular season, excuse me, a little bit
of the regular season and see what he can do.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I would like to see more consistency out of him,
a more consistent game, sometimes a little safer game.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
But then I like some of his creativity, so you'll
see I mean, he could be a guy that does
really well early part of the season, but if he
gets into a point where he's not scoring, you don't
want him to take that penalties to start, you know,
hurting you that way. So yeah, that's where I want
the consistency. So it's not just like, hey, he's scoring,
so don't worry about the other stuff, you know, like
(16:51):
you don't want to be in that boat at something.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, right exactly, And boy, that's see, that's that's great
analogy right there too, because you you need to make
sure that you got that covered. So all right, Well,
there's a couple other things that I want to quickly
address here, and that is the injuries that have kind
of started to take their toe hair a little bit,
(17:14):
where we've got Oliver Bunk and Carson Dewart, Lane Peterson,
and Ethan Samson kind of on the day to day
list here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well, Samson's longer than that, he's more.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
In day to day Okay, all right, yeah, he's a
few weeks from what I saw.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Okay, that's what I wanted to ask you, if you
have any updates on any of those guys.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, I thought I saw Samson with three weeks or something,
so he'll go down to the phantoms.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Dewart.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Unfortunately, if he stays hurt, maybe Obboles is gonna possibly
steal his job.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And that's fine.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Again, Dewart has not had a full AHL season. If
you send him down, Obboles buys time for those younger players.
So I'm I'm all for that. There's no like, that's
not a step back. That's just a situation where and
he signed a good free agent and this guy can
help them help develop because again that's still.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
The number one goal here is to do that.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I know everybody's talking about, Hey, if they can make
that step forward and be like a close to a
playoff team, Yeah, that's all well and good, but you
still have to have all that development and unfortunately sometimes
there's a trade off with that, and I know that's
what fans don't want to hear at times, but that's
what happens.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Just look at their blue line.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Their blue line, they still don't have anybody that is
rock solid on the power play.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Now, Travis Sandheim's done the.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Best, right, but I'm going to go bring back what
Mike Sullivan said the other day to his new ranger, team.
In his experience, it was like, hey, I got to
manage these guys.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
They're minutes.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Because if you play guys in all situations, in all games,
there does come upon point where you have to dial
it back. And Travis Senheim is going to be that example.
Because if he's playing the power play and he's playing
the penalty kill, and he's skating longer than anybody in
the league as far as miles, and he's playing all
these games, and then he's playing in the Olympics, and
(19:16):
then he comes back to the Flyers, what is he
gonna have left?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
See, that's what most people are missing because not only that,
because there's yeah, you get a break, but if you're not,
if you're not one of those players that's getting the
break and you're out there playing, and he's gonna be
one of those ones that's.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Gonna be playing games, there's no gimmeasy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Exactly exactly I mean. And I think he's earned it.
I think he deserves it.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
You know what I mean. But yeah, at some point,
you know, you're gonna you're gonna run out of gas,
You're gonna run out of steam at some point. That's
just how it's gonna have to be.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
And say connecting you know, it's like you can't if you, like,
I would take connecting you off the penalty kill. I've
talked about it. That's where you could ease him up.
If you have to put Sandheim on the power play,
then don't have him on the penalty kill. Like, at
some point you got to just let other guys fill
these slots because you can't have these guys doing everything.
(20:19):
There is a point where it's gonna sap them.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Last thing I want to get into here, Russ, is
that the Fantoms are starting their training camp. They've got
a couple of preseason games coming up here in the
next couple of days, and quite a list of players
are now down with the Fantoms, and there's probably going
to be, you know, a couple more because when when
do the Flyers have to be.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Down to twenty three?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It's like, oh they have that, Oh they do okay,
all right, I wasn't okay, I wasn't sure about that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So I don't know the exact date, but like they
have time.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Okay, we've talked about it before, we're I think we're
going to continue to talk about it. But with what
we've seen the Fantoms do last year, with everything that's
taken place this year, I feel pretty good about the
Fantoms this year, do you Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
No, I do.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
I feel better. I trust John Snowden. I think they
have more talent. I don't understand the wisdom of the
goaltending the way they're doing it right now, because Coolos
off starting next game tonight, and I don't understand that.
I would have just sent him down and played Bildar
more and then let be Nisen play one more game,
let him be that guy, and then send him down
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like they're just giving kolosof these extra starts. I think
to placate him. And that's just if you ask me,
that's my opinion, because he hasn't earned it, Like he
hasn't played well. Last game is bad, right, and so
it's like like this is the only thing I could
come up with as to what's going on, because he's
the number one Fantoms goal.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Like that's it.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
He has the job and then Bjarnison's is back up.
But right now he's going to get another game, and
after that game, good or bad, I'm sending him down.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
But I would have sent him down already.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I agree, I agree. I definitely agree on that one
for sure, because I'm still not sold on him yet. No,
I'm not at all, not at all, not even at all.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
He needs to prove it to me.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And if he's going to be the number one guy
down there in the phantoms, I'm a little bit worried
about that too, if you must know the truth.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Okay, I mean that's care. I mean, he he has
to prove that he can do it.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I think at the AHL level he can do it,
but he has yet to prove anything to me at
the NHL level.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Agreed, Okay, And I'm with you. If he can prove
it down there, great, because that's what I want to see.
That's that's exactly what I want to say.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Step every goalie, go look at all these goalies in
the league and give me a list of all the
guys that have skipped the AHL completely.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
It's a really small, if not non existent, it's very small.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And some of the ones that have skipped the AHL,
how did it really fared out that?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Well?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That happens too, Yeah, you know what I mean? So, Okay, Well,
I think we covered quite a bit there. I mean,
I really like as long as they can figure out
the goaltending issue out. Like I said, I think the
Fantoms are going to be in really good hands. I
like the hiring of John Snowden as well. Russ really
(23:32):
likes the hirings as well too, and we both agree
that if the Fantoms are in a good spot to
make a good run at a Calder Cup, that's only
going to bode well for those guys and then also
for the team.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
So yeah, I mean, I'm still worried about the NHL
goaltending and I haven't seen Dan Blodar enough to say that.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm not worried about anything. It's not a slight on him.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
He just only has played a period, right, That's it exactly.
He'll play more tonight. He should get two periods, so
we'll see.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I mean, I'm not a fan of that in especially
if you have seven, uh preseason games, just let the
guy play the whole bloody game.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It would be good. But I think then call us
off would have an issue.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, no, so you have you just rotate him out.
You've got I mean, you've.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Got times running out, times running out because Fantoms camp
is starting, and so you gotta you can't cripple John
Snowden by hitting not letting him know what.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Goalies are going to be there, when they're going to
be there.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That doesn't help him exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And we all know that the Flyers and the Phantoms
are all going to be trying to do the same system,
right and the Royals.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Don't forget about the Royals because in the past, nobody
had really talked about the Royals kind of coordinating with
the Phantoms, coordinating with the Flyers.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Now they're all going to coordinate.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
That is even better news. Russ, Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Look you're just breaking news all over the place.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Man, I'm not breaking news. That's not breaking news. That's
just fine.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
No, no, no, I know, I know, I know. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But yeah, that's that's a good thing to know though too,
because man, the the guys down there and reading if
they're playing the same system, and then when they get
the call up to come into the Fantoms and everybody's
playing the same system, and then the guys.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
And it's not going to be a lot because the
Phantoms are going to have a lot of players, but
there could be a time and if there is they
won't miss a beat, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
And there you have it.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I mean, if they won't miss a beat, that was
clearly the issue last year. I think, oh yeah when
the players got called up. But ever since John Torrella
was coach and and the Perrier was was with the Fantoms,
it's been kind of a w alrighty well, Russ, I
(25:58):
think we got a good one here in the book. Sir,
Thank you so very much for being here and for
yeah man for doing this with us. Man, this is
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Speaker 4 (26:19):
Rush that does like mushroom foraging, and for some reason
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I don't even eat mushrooms. So there you go.
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Ron? How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Man, I'll tell you what. I'm getting excited. I'm getting excited.
We're getting closer and closer to official puck drop.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, it's getting there.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
It's too many preseason games left, but I know we
have to endure.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
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closer pretty soon. That calendar is going to take over
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O five, a Philadelphia Flyers training camp update and a
couple of preseason games left and one being as we're
gonna be filming one here. There's gonna be one starting
(01:36):
here as soon here directly as we're filming against the
Boston Bruins. But Russ, we haven't seen a very good
preseason so far, have we?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
No, we haven't.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I mean, honestly, you want more scoring, you want better defense,
you want better goaltending. You've seen some things here and there,
some flashes here and there, but it's not enough to
make believe that all of a sudden this team's gonna
come together early on.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It's just not.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, okay, And that's kind of what we're going to
get into here a little bit with quite a few
of the players have been moving back and forth now
where we're shrinking the roster down as we keep getting
closer and closer to puck drop, and I want to
talk about some of the players that have been sent
back to juniors, which we all know that Nesbit was
(02:28):
going to be one of the ones that's going back,
and we've talked about this on previous shows where we
feel that most of all these players would do well
to go back.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, I mean, it's not any kind of surprise.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I wasn't gonna write anything like Jack nesbitz close to
the NHL. He's not close to the NHL. So and
it's okay. I like what I see out of Spencer Gilt.
Spencer go went back. He needs to go back because
he needs to put it all together. But yes, he's
making progress. They're all making progress, but none of them
are making progress where there all of a sudden can
(03:05):
skip steps.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, See, that's what I wanted to get to, and
I agree with you one hundred percent, and I'm I'm
a little disappointed, though, if you must know the truth,
I thought I thought we would be seeing a little
more out of some of these guys. I mean, I
want to take, for example, a player that I was
(03:29):
really high on when he first got here.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I thought he played really well last.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Year with the Fantoms, and and you said that he
basically has played himself out out of town, and of
course that rang true. With helgie Grand's being put on waivers,
I mean, what did we miss something here?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
No? I mean, did you have to be put on
waivers to get him down the Lehigh anyhow?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But he had some turnovers, he got turned around a.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Few times, and with the new coach, that's enough to
be on the outs.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
There's enough defensemen there where.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I'm not saying they're all like totally solid, but what
I'm saying is if they're looking at you as a
possible guy to you know, help out in the third pair,
being number seven something like that, and you play like that,
you're pretty much done, at least for now.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, I mean that's that's pretty much the case with
that too. And something else I want to talk about too,
which which you also mentioned in some of your random
wise tweets that you've put out there and some things
that you've put out there that I really much agree with,
and I was really taken aback by it as well,
and that is the lack of the Jet Luchenko. I mean,
(04:45):
we saw flashes last year, we saw it play relatively
okay with it fantoms, I mean, relatively all things considered.
What's the deal with Jet? Is he still on the
hurt side. I mean, he's been clear to play.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Wow, we can't use that, and I think there's been
enough games now where we should see something. Okay, we're
seeing some decent penalty killing once in a while, he
makes a good pass, but he's not a force offensively.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
He's not able to get in the middle of the
ice and make something happen.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They're not going to use him on the power play
if he's not showing anything five on five, because you
haven't earned it. Yeah, So like he's playing like a
nineteen year old player that needs time to develop.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And so that's put you in the spot where it's like, Okay,
what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do
with him?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
And I think the biggest thing here is even if
the organization felt like, hey, this guy's better than people
what people like me think and and he's ahead of
the curve and ahead of his age, that's what you thought,
that's not what reality is. And so like reality has
(05:57):
sort of hit hit home now or it's like, Okay,
you may have thought that, but now I think you're
seeing that that's not there, and that's not on the flyers.
A lot of that's on the player. A lot of
that's all maturing. It's all a complicated process. It's not
a cut and dry process. But I'm just saying expectations
(06:19):
are great, but great expectations many times turn into disappointment.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Especially I think when you move up to get somebody
that wasn't even on anybody's radar. I mean not very
many people. I think we're thinking that jet Lachenko was
going to go to the Flyers, not not.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Spot, but he was definitely on some draft board prognosticated radar.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I got that high.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, I didn't have a feeling of where teams had
a mess. And I don't listen to any team when
a team says, oh they mad it making him next
or what, I don't listen to any of that because
a lot of times that those are things that are
just meant to distract us and send us lost leaders.
And so I don't I don't listen to any of
that for any team. So it's like, it's not that's
not on the Flyers. That's how I address it with
(07:16):
all teams. So I don't go by that. I go, yeah,
if that's your guy, you take your guy, that's fine.
But I also go with Hey, they had a chance
to not sign him to that ELC. Now they signed
him to the ELC, and rumor is because they didn't
(07:36):
want another Cutter go Chase situation. Okay, so, but what
that did was that took him out of any chance
of playing college hockey, which is a great place he
could have played this year.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Now he's in that in between point.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And now this is where it gets a little iffy
as to what to do.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
With him exactly exactly, because I mean, he would probably
be more of a benefit fit with his junior team,
I think than he would be with the Phantoms.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You think, maybe he can't go to the Phantom so
it's irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
No, but I mean I'm just saying, so it'll be
better if.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
He could go to the Phantoms, but it's irrelevant he can't.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Right, Yeah, So well, I.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Don't I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I don't worry about the what ifs, and I only
speak in the in the absolutes, you know, And the
absolute is he's going to either play in Philly or
in Guelph until he gets traded.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
They haven't gotten him traded. Nobody's traded him.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
So those are the two choices on the menu, right, Now,
I don't think they're gonna send him overseas or anything.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So that's it. It's one or the other, and it's
up to them what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
But clearly he's not pulling his weight enough to be
an everyday flyer. So and so, like, are you gonna
play him and then bench him for five six games
to watch? Not bench him, but just you know, sit
him down and watch and let the calendar turn and
wait until World Junior can and send him away and
let him go to the World Juniors and then hope
(09:03):
after that that maybe Gwelf gets tired of him not
reporting and they trade him. Yeah, maybe, And that's kind
of what happened with Shane Wright in a way. But
I don't know if they're going to do that. And
if they don't do that, then guess what then he
does have to go back to wealth.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well there you have it, and there you have it, folks,
right there. You heard it. You heard it here first.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I mean, they're giving him the chance, and yeah, you
can't do it. I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I don't understand the point in stringing them along, Like
it's just there's a there's an early benefit to that.
But then there's a point where, Okay, this guy needs
to be playing playing big minutes, power play, penalty kill everything,
and he's just not going to do that in Philly.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Not right now anyway, not right now.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That's what I mean. Right now, I'm only talking about right.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Now, yep. And I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So okay, there was quite a list of guys that
they sent down to the Fantoms.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm pretty sure you're going to agree with pretty much
all of them. Robertson to Mula Bolton.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I mean, Tuamala is in danger of being a bus though,
Like he's heading down Bustville. And if he heads down Busville,
check out that draft because without Cutter go in that
draft and without Tuamala, they're gonna walk away with nothing
in that draft.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And we talked about this on the last show, where
they need to start hitting on more than one player,
if that I mean, you know what I mean, And they.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Need to start hitting time.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
That's what you gotta do when when you're in this position,
you got to hit two or three at a time,
especially with all these.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Picks exactly exactly, and they just haven't been. Now, this
is really only what Danny's second full year, right right, So,
I mean we're not going to necessarily see the fruits
of all that labor, where we're seeing still the fruits
(10:56):
of the previous administration's labor.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And we all know that, well, that wasn't the best.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
The previous administration. Some of those people are still around too,
so it's.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's exactly exactly. So I mean, there you have it.
I mean, you're gonna have some of those guys that
would you know. I think we talked about it on
the last show, and I think we have to pretty
much stress that this year too. You need to focus
on making the Fantoms a good team.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You need to make them the best team in the AHL.
If you make them the best team in the AHL.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
And they go on a long run and they possibly
win a Calder Cup, then that's going to help the.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Big club exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And it's like we've been pounding this hammer, you know
now in the hammer for a last couple of shows here.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But it's the truth.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But it's not sexy. It's not sexy to do that.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
It's sexier to think about who might play with the Flyers,
what young guys are gonna kind of like jump up
and surprise and everything else. And you know, you see
that most of the time that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
And we don't have that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
There isn't any one of these There's not a single
player that's on the current roster that's that's skating with
the team right now or even that got sent down,
that is that player other than some of the guys
that are already on the club. The Mitchkoff's the connect needs,
you know, that kind of thing. You're just not seeing
those players like that from Philadelphia jump off the page
(12:27):
and jump off the ice that we've seen in the
preseason so far.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
No, I mean, that's true. I mean, but again, you know,
Mitchkoff is a cut above. He is twenty gonna be
twenty one in December. You know, that's quite a difference
when you're talking about, you know, a two year difference
from some of the guys you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
So that's a big deal in development.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Years exactly exactly, especially at that age, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, So, but I like this off at things he
needs to work on.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Oh yeah, you know, like I feel like still in
third periods he doesn't always come up big.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I think he has to work on that.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Like that six on four that they had against Boston,
he didn't really do much in that. Yeah, he's got
to be there at the end of games if he
wants to be that guy. So there's things for him
to work on.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Stiff And and he's had a full like off season
now where he hasn't played anywhere else or anything like that.
He's completely you know, rested from last season to this season,
you know what I mean. So, Okay, I'm excited about
where we're going to see the Mitchikoffs. I'm excited about
(13:42):
where we're going to see the Zegres. I'm excited about
where how how this is all going to go with
the Tyson Forresters and the Owen Tippets and and I'm
excited about what this is all going to do, even
though I know that it's probably not really going to
amount to very much.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No, I mean, they're gonna be one of those eleven
teams in the lottery. They're going to it.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Could be the eleventh or they could be the sixth.
But if you're in it, you're in it like that's
you know that, And that's pretty much the way it works, right.
So I think ultimately they're going to be in it.
As an example, like now they're putting Dvorak on his line,
and I talked about that, like, hey, you've got to
do something to kind of like insulate him for the
(14:28):
defensive zone draws or just draws in general.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And that's what they're doing, and that's fine.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
That's I don't know if Devorak on the second line
is going to be the fix though, because he's proven
he's not a second liner in this league. But this
is kind of like an experimental thing, so I'm not
going to get too deep, but I'll say this. I
saw Zegress on a power play take a face off
and just lose it outright, and I was like, all right,
(14:54):
I think I would just do it in different situations.
But the power play now it looked better like game.
It definitely got some results, which is good. But then
the six on four got no results, and then it
made me think, it's partially there's.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
A little thing in there right.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Not completely, but not completely. But I don't know if
i'd let him take face offs on the power play.
If I want my power play to be really good,
maybe that's the point where I don't have him take
face offs and have him do it in other situations instead.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Okay, it makes yeah, that makes sense too.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
That makes sense too, and and and frankly, I think
that that that's what we even talked about in the
last show, that we've even mentioned. Hey, you know, you
got these preseason games, why not throw these guys together
on the power play and see what you got because.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You want to do that now instead of doing that,
you know, when the games count.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah no, but that's true.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
And you know, so like Nikita Gabreenkin, Grebenkan had a
really good game last game.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I liked what he did.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
He had a nice goal, he played more consistent, and
he still didn't play a perfect whole game. He still
has some issues, but he's ahead of the pack compared
to everybody else. That's, you know, a young player for
them that hasn't played for them. So I give him
the rest of the preseason. I give him a little
(16:17):
bit of the regular season, excuse me, a little bit
of the regular season and see what he can do.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I would like to see more consistency out of him,
a more consistent game, sometimes a little safer game.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
But then I like some of his creativity, so you'll
see I mean, he could be a guy that does
really well early part of the season, but if he
gets into a point where he's not scoring, you don't
want him to take that penalties to start, you know,
hurting you that way. So yeah, that's where I want
the consistency. So it's not just like, hey, he's scoring,
so don't worry about the other stuff, you know, like
(16:51):
you don't want to be in that boat at something.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, right exactly, And boy, that's see, that's that's great
analogy right there too, because you you need to make
sure that you got that covered. So all right, Well,
there's a couple other things that I want to quickly
address here, and that is the injuries that have kind
of started to take their toe hair a little bit,
(17:14):
where we've got Oliver Bunk and Carson Dewart, Lane Peterson,
and Ethan Samson kind of on the day to day
list here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well, Samson's longer than that, he's more.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
In day to day Okay, all right, yeah, he's a
few weeks from what I saw.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Okay, that's what I wanted to ask you, if you
have any updates on any of those guys.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, I thought I saw Samson with three weeks or something,
so he'll go down to the phantoms.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Dewart.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Unfortunately, if he stays hurt, maybe Obboles is gonna possibly
steal his job.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And that's fine.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Again, Dewart has not had a full AHL season. If
you send him down, Obboles buys time for those younger players.
So I'm I'm all for that. There's no like, that's
not a step back. That's just a situation where and
he signed a good free agent and this guy can
help them help develop because again that's still.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
The number one goal here is to do that.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I know everybody's talking about, Hey, if they can make
that step forward and be like a close to a
playoff team, Yeah, that's all well and good, but you
still have to have all that development and unfortunately sometimes
there's a trade off with that, and I know that's
what fans don't want to hear at times, but that's
what happens.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Just look at their blue line.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Their blue line, they still don't have anybody that is
rock solid on the power play.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Now, Travis Sandheim's done the.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Best, right, but I'm going to go bring back what
Mike Sullivan said the other day to his new ranger, team.
In his experience, it was like, hey, I got to
manage these guys.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
They're minutes.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Because if you play guys in all situations, in all games,
there does come upon point where you have to dial
it back. And Travis Senheim is going to be that example.
Because if he's playing the power play and he's playing
the penalty kill, and he's skating longer than anybody in
the league as far as miles, and he's playing all
these games, and then he's playing in the Olympics, and
(19:16):
then he comes back to the Flyers, what is he
gonna have left?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
See, that's what most people are missing because not only that,
because there's yeah, you get a break, but if you're not,
if you're not one of those players that's getting the
break and you're out there playing, and he's gonna be
one of those ones that's.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Gonna be playing games, there's no gimmeasy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Exactly exactly I mean. And I think he's earned it.
I think he deserves it.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
You know what I mean. But yeah, at some point,
you know, you're gonna you're gonna run out of gas,
You're gonna run out of steam at some point. That's
just how it's gonna have to be.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
And say connecting you know, it's like you can't if you, like,
I would take connecting you off the penalty kill. I've
talked about it. That's where you could ease him up.
If you have to put Sandheim on the power play,
then don't have him on the penalty kill. Like, at
some point you got to just let other guys fill
these slots because you can't have these guys doing everything.
(20:19):
There is a point where it's gonna sap them.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Last thing I want to get into here, Russ, is
that the Fantoms are starting their training camp. They've got
a couple of preseason games coming up here in the
next couple of days, and quite a list of players
are now down with the Fantoms, and there's probably going
to be, you know, a couple more because when when
do the Flyers have to be.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Down to twenty three?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It's like, oh they have that, Oh they do okay,
all right, I wasn't okay, I wasn't sure about that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So I don't know the exact date, but like they
have time.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Okay, we've talked about it before, we're I think we're
going to continue to talk about it. But with what
we've seen the Fantoms do last year, with everything that's
taken place this year, I feel pretty good about the
Fantoms this year, do you Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
No, I do.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
I feel better. I trust John Snowden. I think they
have more talent. I don't understand the wisdom of the
goaltending the way they're doing it right now, because Coolos
off starting next game tonight, and I don't understand that.
I would have just sent him down and played Bildar
more and then let be Nisen play one more game,
let him be that guy, and then send him down
(21:40):
like they're just giving kolosof these extra starts. I think
to placate him. And that's just if you ask me,
that's my opinion, because he hasn't earned it, Like he
hasn't played well. Last game is bad, right, and so
it's like like this is the only thing I could
come up with as to what's going on, because he's
the number one Fantoms goal.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Like that's it.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
He has the job and then Bjarnison's is back up.
But right now he's going to get another game, and
after that game, good or bad, I'm sending him down.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
But I would have sent him down already.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I agree, I agree. I definitely agree on that one
for sure, because I'm still not sold on him yet. No,
I'm not at all, not at all, not even at all.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
He needs to prove it to me.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And if he's going to be the number one guy
down there in the phantoms, I'm a little bit worried
about that too, if you must know the truth.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Okay, I mean that's care. I mean, he he has
to prove that he can do it.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I think at the AHL level he can do it,
but he has yet to prove anything to me at
the NHL level.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Agreed, Okay, And I'm with you. If he can prove
it down there, great, because that's what I want to see.
That's that's exactly what I want to say.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Step every goalie, go look at all these goalies in
the league and give me a list of all the
guys that have skipped the AHL completely.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
It's a really small, if not non existent, it's very small.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And some of the ones that have skipped the AHL,
how did it really fared out that?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Well?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That happens too, Yeah, you know what I mean? So, Okay, Well,
I think we covered quite a bit there. I mean,
I really like as long as they can figure out
the goaltending issue out. Like I said, I think the
Fantoms are going to be in really good hands. I
like the hiring of John Snowden as well. Russ really
(23:32):
likes the hirings as well too, and we both agree
that if the Fantoms are in a good spot to
make a good run at a Calder Cup, that's only
going to bode well for those guys and then also
for the team.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
So yeah, I mean, I'm still worried about the NHL
goaltending and I haven't seen Dan Blodar enough to say that.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm not worried about anything. It's not a slight on him.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
He just only has played a period, right, That's it exactly.
He'll play more tonight. He should get two periods, so
we'll see.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I mean, I'm not a fan of that in especially
if you have seven, uh preseason games, just let the
guy play the whole bloody game.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It would be good. But I think then call us
off would have an issue.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, no, so you have you just rotate him out.
You've got I mean, you've.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Got times running out, times running out because Fantoms camp
is starting, and so you gotta you can't cripple John
Snowden by hitting not letting him know what.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Goalies are going to be there, when they're going to
be there.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That doesn't help him exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And we all know that the Flyers and the Phantoms
are all going to be trying to do the same system,
right and the Royals.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Don't forget about the Royals because in the past, nobody
had really talked about the Royals kind of coordinating with
the Phantoms, coordinating with the Flyers.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Now they're all going to coordinate.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
That is even better news. Russ, Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Look you're just breaking news all over the place.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Man, I'm not breaking news. That's not breaking news. That's
just fine.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
No, no, no, I know, I know, I know. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But yeah, that's that's a good thing to know though too,
because man, the the guys down there and reading if
they're playing the same system, and then when they get
the call up to come into the Fantoms and everybody's
playing the same system, and then the guys.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
And it's not going to be a lot because the
Phantoms are going to have a lot of players, but
there could be a time and if there is they
won't miss a beat, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
And there you have it.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I mean, if they won't miss a beat, that was
clearly the issue last year. I think, oh yeah when
the players got called up. But ever since John Torrella
was coach and and the Perrier was was with the Fantoms,
it's been kind of a w alrighty well, Russ, I
(25:58):
think we got a good one here in the book. Sir,
Thank you so very much for being here and for
yeah man for doing this with us. Man, this is
really awesome. Look all you have to do is go
to Google and type in Russ Cohen, right, and you'll
see all this stuff, like there's another.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Rush that does like mushroom foraging, and for some reason
he gets listed ahead of me.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
But then there's me, Oh, well, don't pick the mushroom
foraging guy, right pick.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I'm not saying pick them, it's just don't click on him.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I don't wish him anything. Don't click on him thinking
it's me. Just click on You'll know it's not me
because I'm not.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I don't even eat mushrooms. So there you go.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And so there you have it, folks, Right there, you
go straight from the horse's mouth. He doesn't need mushrooms. Okay,
but all you have to do is go to Google.
Type in Rust Cohen. You can find all a number
of his eleven books out on Amazon. Some really really
great reads out there for sure. All the great stuff
he does with Lockdown Flyers with Rachel you got to
(27:01):
go check them out. Get subbed up for that, and
all the stuff he does for Elite Prospects for I mean,
you know it's it's it's quite a laundry list. So
google a lot of stuff, yeah, right right. Follow him
on Sportsology on X for sure. Be sure to check
him out at sportsology dot com. We'll have links in
the description here for you. Appreciate that. I'm your co host,
(27:24):
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Speaker 3 (27:40):
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Be sure to follow the show. Be sure to be
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I'm hoping here real real soon fingers crossed. Within the
maybe a couple of days, we're going to have the
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Speaker 3 (28:00):
I can't wait for you guys to see it.
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