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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to The Hockey Writers, Inc.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The show where the writer is fresh off the presses
and the ink is not dry. Relax, the keyboard is
off and the press boxes closed with the mic is
just getting warmed up. Join your host, Lance Green, the
guardian of the blue paint turned writer, and your co
host Ron Steel Flyers as we bring you all the
latest on the Philadelphia Flyers. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to
(00:41):
the next edition of The Hockey Writers, Inc.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
With your host Way Screen.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
All right, guys, hello, and welcome to a very special
edition of The Hockey Writers, Inc. A Flyers based podcast.
This week we had joining us former fan favorite Zach Ronaldo. Zach,
how are you done?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Good guys, thanks for reaching out. Appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Yeah, for sure, about dad, Lance, we got a real
special guest sitting in here for this episode, right.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Now, most of you may remember, while Zach may have
only played parts of a few seasons with the Flyers,
he played with a lasting impression on the city. And
what I mean by that is Ronaldo knew his role
and he played it to perfection. Zach was a grinder
who always played the game on full tilt. It didn't
matter whether he was laying a monster hit, antagonizing the opposition,
(01:35):
or playing the role of a policeman out on the
ice where he would drop the mits and go after
someone who was messing with one of his star players. Zach,
in my mind, will there be respected in the city
because he played the game without fear and he never
took a shift off. So Steve, let's get into some
(01:56):
questions for this man.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Why don't way that for sure? For sure?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Zach, Like, like we said, you are a fan favorite.
You're definitely play the game the right way. The way
Lance and I liked the way to see the game.
You know, we we the type of player that you
were is missing in this game for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
We need to see more. Guys.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Thank you very much for hopping on here. Thank you
all folks for checking us out and tuning in. If
you like what we're doing, please hit the legs.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
This is a.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
Philadelphia Flyers centric podcast, Hockey Way Think, Episode number where
the Hockey Waders, Inc.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Welcomes Zach Ranaldo Philadelphia Flyer.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
Zach, I gotta tell you, buddy, Let's let's take it
back here a little bit, all right, tell us what
it was like being drafted by the Philadelphia Flyers.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
It was it was a dream come true. To be
honest with you, I grew up a Flyer fan. I
grew up Eric Rosstan. I think I I was born
with orange blood running through my veins, so.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
So to be drafted there was it was. It was
the dream come true.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Literally, I'll say, I think it's a perfect match, you
know what I mean. I think it worked out well
for both Philadelphia Flyers and for you as well.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
So when I was playing, my dad always was my
biggest influence, and he instilled in me that even if
you're not the best, that's something you damn sure better
not let anybody out work you. And you know, I
think you played a similar mind with a similar mindset
in that sense, because I don't think you ever took
(03:45):
a shift off. I mean, can you speak on who
helped you mold that way of playing the game as
well as just being a man in general.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Yeah, I think I just I love I loved working hard.
I still love working hard. It's just it's fun to me.
It's it's fun, you know, going through a little bit
of pain, and it's fun for me. Being totally exhausted
because I know what the end result will be with
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doing those hard things. So it was always go through
hard times to get the reward at the end. And
for me, it was play every shift like it's going
to be your last. And I live by that and
(04:40):
I still I still teach that as a coach right now,
to play every shift like it's their last. But I
think I just hated losing. I hated losing so much
more than I love to win. So when I was
on the ice, I wanted that puck. I wanted to
put you through the glass. I wanted to do everything
(05:00):
I could from to help my team win because I
hated to lose so much. So that was just I
think that was just born that way. I think I'm
chemically wired that way. And I learned that at a
young age eight years old. Yeah, and I just it's
it's still in me. So I was just born that way.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Okay, I mean that would kind of explain, or maybe
you could help us explain why your game is not
just about you know, the big hits and the rearranging
of other guys' faces.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Mm hmm, what the what's the question?
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Nor your your game is more than just rearranging other
guys' faces, right, and and and and and the big hits,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
It is more than that, right, yeah, it is.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
I mean I think you know when I when I was,
when I made big hits, I that that was a
that was a natural talent to me. I could time things,
I could read the play. You know how goalscorers can
dictate and be to where the puck is about to be.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Well, I had the gift and I still do.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
I have the gift to dictate where the player is
going to be with the puck before he gets it.
So I'm there ready to hit someone before he even
knows that he's about to get it. I could just
time it and anticipate it and think three, four or
five steps ahead. But because my hits were so big,
I had to and to the bell. And I was
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never scared to answer the bell. And I knew that
was the part of the game. Unfortunately, and fortunately.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
That I hit so much, and I hit so big,
and I hit so.
Speaker 8 (06:44):
Hard that it kind of took over some of the
other things that I was able to do. And people
saw that this kid can make these devastating hits and
he can end to the bell and he can pass
and he can scape. Okay, well you know, let's let's
let's give this kid a shot here, but we need
him to do X, Y and Z and nothing else.
(07:07):
And you know, I I played to my strength and
I was okay with that.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, I mean that's what got you there in the
first place. But uh, you know, I think with your
play also, with you playing at that high paced, you know,
full tilt, like I said, I think that that kind
of energized your team at points too. Even if they
were down a goal, you weren't playing like you were
down a goal. You were playing, you know, to at
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full tilt. So they had to elevate their game because
I mean, you just had the crowd going, you know,
when you were on the ice, every hit, you know,
they were on their feet. And as far as that
goes too, I mean you talk about somebody you having
the answer the bell and you're antagonizing that other team
and chirping and stuff like that like TK does. Now
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for the Flyers a little bit, you know, I think
that that plays into the part where they're now gonna
take penalties against you and everything like that. So now
you're bringing somebody else into the box with you that
maybe a first or second line player in that sense.
So you know that all that, all that played a
part in your game, I think, and that you you
(08:17):
were very effective in that sense.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Yeah, absolutely, And I wasn't aware of that, probably until
I made the NHL and I had coaching and coaches
tell me like, hey, like, you know you're look at
your your penalties, but then also look at the penalties
that you're drawing in such a short amount of ice
time too. So once I was realizing what I was
doing and how effective it was, I bought into it.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I wasn't I wasn't a big guy for chirping. I do.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
I think talk is cheap, but I let I let
my actions speak louder than my words. So and I
think that goes such a longer way than talking talking
ship on the ice that if you can go and
give guys the gears physically and not say a word
that pisses guys off even more. And like I wouldn't stop, right,
(09:10):
So if I drew one penalty, I drew two and
then I took one, or if it was for nothing
else or it was four nothing them again, I just
hated to lose so much, regardless of what the score was,
even if we were winning. When I went on my shift,
I didn't want to lose my shift, So I was
always going to come at you no matter what the
circumstances were. Sometimes I got me in trouble, but sometimes
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for the most part it was it was very successful.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Right in that sense you talked.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know, you stand at five ten and roughly about
one hundred and ninety two pounds when you last played.
At least I know that fluctuated a little bit throughout
your career, but according to my calculations, you had somewhere
over one hundred and thirty bouts in your professional career.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Can you discuss.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Any like techniques you had going into a fight or
or did you a lot of guys trained in the
off season boxing, Uh, you know, mixed martial arts, anything
like that.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
It was it was killed or be killed for me,
and I knew that he wanted to kill me. I
wanted to kill him, and again I hated to lose,
so I made sure I didn't die, and I just yeah,
I did everything in my power, everything in my heart,
(10:33):
to to not lose, and for the majority of the time,
it paid off. I was never seriously hurt in a fight.
I was knocked out a couple of times, but when
I was knocked out, I was always still standing. And
I was always knocked out for maybe a second or two,
and then I would pop back into the fight. But no,
(10:55):
there's there's no technique. I think it's just you have
to have a strong forearm grip, and you can't be
scared to get hit. Once you are scared to get hit.
I remember Craig Beruby asking me, I think when he.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I don't know. I forget what year was. And I
fought Uh.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
I fought Shaw in Philly when he was playing for Chicago,
and for some reason, I would always because I didn't
have any defense.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I didn't care about being hit. I didn't care.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I still don't. And then I was always getting punched,
like three or four times before I could punch back.
And I remember teeth after the fight. He's like that,
He's like, do you like getting hit?
Speaker 6 (11:37):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You don't, you don't you don't defend yourself.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
And I'm like, because I don't really feel them sometimes,
so I was and I didn't really clue in, but Yeah,
I would get hit a couple of times and it
pissed me off. Youvemore and maybe I feeled my fire
a little bit, but no, there's there's just it's a four.
It's a strong forearm grip and not being scared to
get punched in the head.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I like to taste
of my own blood. It just me up a little
bit more so.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Guys on that, man.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
Yeah, all right, So let's stay in that same kind
of vein, right, who was in your in your experience
you're playing experience.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
What was the easiest player to get under their skin?
Who was the easiest player to knock off their game?
Where all they did was taste you around all night hockey.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
I don't like on them, not even like I don't
think there was too many guys. Oh you know what
it was Sean Thornton. Okay, Sean Thornton fucking hated me.
He hated me, and he jumped me. He jumped me
once or twice. I fought him respectfully in Boston, But
(12:59):
I hea and ship Tamara in Washington when Kamara was playing,
it was it was those older dudes that had like
the old man's strength that like that I really pissed
off unintentionally, like they were fucking tough. I respect those guys,
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they're tough, and but something about my game really pissed
them off. Those two guys, and they they they hated
me so much. And yeah, I clearly I was doing
my job because they hated me, and I respect that.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Okay, So so with that, you talked about a couple
of guys. But who's your favorite kind of tough.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Guy of all time?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
You know, I like ty Dome and stuff growing up, but.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Like current or in the.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Past all time, like you know, growing up, who do
uh kind of I love there?
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Eric Lindross, Biggie eighty eight, all day long. He He's
the He's the reason I played hockey. He was the
reason that I hit. He was the reason that I
fell in love with the flyers.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Him. To me, he could do it all.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
He could crush people, he could score goals, he could fly,
he could stick.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Handle, he could he was.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
He was the definition of what a hockey player and honestly,
my sonest opinion, he still is the definition of what
a real hockey player is. I can do it all,
not just the one dimensional guy. But like, you got
so many players now that's just Oh, I'm just a
goal scorer. I'm just the unforcer. But we're missing we're
missing players like Lindross, like in my opinion, like Tom Wilson,
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Tom Wilson does it all. And I love William, I
respect him, but growing up, Lindross was the guy.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
He was the god for me.
Speaker 8 (14:58):
My whole bedroom was Flyers stuff and Lindross stuff and
growing up my I was a captain of my teams
and I was number eighty eight, and like I he's
the reason.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, he was fucking deadly.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And you you met him too before, right?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I did? I did. I met him at Winter Classic.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, there you go. How did that go for you?
Speaker 7 (15:24):
I mean then you know that you know what they say, right,
like never meet your heroes and that kind of thing, Right,
So how'd that go for you?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
It was all right? It was okay. I was.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
I was expecting a little more, to be honest with you,
but he was nice, he was respectful, and I'm kind
of just gonna leave it there. It was, yeah, but
it is true, like you never want to meet your idols. Yeah,
But honestly, I just respect him so much for what
he did for me. But I thought even him knowing
(15:58):
it or appreciating what he did for me.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
But yeah, I just.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Respect that guy a lot, regardless of whatever our situation
was when we met.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm with you on that man. And he's actually the
reason I became a Flyers fan right when he was
coming into the league.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Fight when I started, you know, paying attention to hockey,
you know, and I think I was waited that perfect age.
So all right, so now I'm gonna ask if you
can do this now, what is the most memorable fight
you've ever had?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Like memorable meaning like it was.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Really exciting, you're the most proud of.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
Oh, there's a couple, whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
There's a couple like my my most.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
There's three that use stand out my It was my
first fight at the Wells Fargo in pre season against
Dale Weese.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I remember that one.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
I beat the wheels off. We love we sir again.
I respect him, I don't, I don't. I'm on these podcasts.
I don't really talk ship about players. I respect everybody
I fought. Everybody has respect that I got into locations with.
But I did I beat him up, kind him open,
and I'll never forget the feeling and in the response
(17:29):
I got from the fans. So in that kind of
that that set the tone for me being in Philly.
That set the tone. My second one was the again
at Wells Fargo against the Gainlaw just because again Law.
You know, he's a legend, he's a Hall of Famer,
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He's fucking Jerome Againlaw.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And when I fought Jerome.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
I went into the dressing room and and Steve Downey
was there greeting me, and I was I was.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I yelled at downs that.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
I was like, fuck man, like I just fought Jerome mcguila,
Like I was still a kid. I was twenty twenty
three years old, so I was kind of like, you know,
still like surreal that I just had to fight Jerome Mcguinla.
So that was a pretty cool experience. And that Krombing
one was very memorable too, just because he was he
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was a big dude. He was a really big dude.
I know there was some altercation I think before the
game prior to that one game, the last game he
put in Tampa something with g or Or Shenner, and yeah,
I hit him and he went down on one knee,
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and I remember thinking as I'm about to hit him again,
I'm like, if this kid gets up again, I could
be a next on the ground. So I made sure
that he didn't get up, and I remember Danny b
making sure that the refs knew that he wasn't down
on the ground laying down before I hit him right,
(19:10):
So and then again just the response and all those
three fights, like my ears were ringing from how loud
the crowd was.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, and you just.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
That feeling just warms your heart, it warms your blood,
and it's contagious.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
It's a drug, to be honest with you, So yeah,
it was.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Those are my three most memorable ones that that are
close to my heart.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
As weird as that.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think you fought Jerome again. I
think you pretty much clobbered him, get the not out
of him.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
That was definitely like my favorite two.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I even had a doubt here to like mention that
because I respected again less so much, because like you said,
he could do it all.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
He could score, he could make some great.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Assists, he skated well, he balled his own fights, He
knock you on your foot and the boards, you know,
just complete player like Lindross was so you know when
you when you took him on and took him down,
I was just like, man, this dude, this dude is
the truth. Now he's like he moved up a peg
in my mind for sure. But with that being said,
(20:33):
what do you what are your kind of thoughts on
today's kind of kindler, gentler game and you know, how
do you feel like it's moved in that direction and
stuff when obviously, like you just mentioned, like when a
fight happens or a big check like you used to
do happens, when everybody in the stands is standing up,
(20:54):
you know, on their feets, yelling and screaming. I don't
know why they would go away from that, But you know,
what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Per se?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I like the new I like the new NHL. I do.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
I think it's very fast, the players are are very skilled.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
What what I what? I honestly I do.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
I do like how there's so many random players fighting now,
You've got so many skilled random players that you wouldn't
even know existed some nights because they're they're fighting and
the fighting is sloppy and it's it's not quality. But
I like it because it's passionate. It's not staged fights
right now, and they're they're here the moment where they
(21:36):
might not last more than ten twelve seconds, but it's
very passionate. So and I respect that. I do like
the way the game is going. I do think that
they should implement well, draft more physical players that are
(21:57):
naturally gifted with being physical, kind of like how I
got drafted, and then take their game and mold them
into what you want without taking the physical elements away.
I just think they're drafting too many one dimensional skilled
kids instead of implementing or taking a taking a tough
(22:17):
kid that's got some skill, like a diamond in the rough,
and and then sharpening them up when they're in the NHL.
But one thing that I keep seeing with the fights is, uh,
well two things. I see a lot of a lot
of players turning their backs when they get hit. And
that's that's. Oh, that's been a constant thing. That's been
(22:38):
a constant thing. That's just it's if guys are a
lot more they're timid. In today's NHL, they're very timid.
They're very scared to get hit, the very scared of confrontation,
which I don't like. But like a lot of these
fights there they hit each other while they're on the ground,
like if you watch the Strong that Strome fight last night,
(23:00):
like Buddy was on the ground and they're still punching
in If you know, six seven years ago, if you
were to even think about punching someone on the ground,
you were in the news getting crucified, you were suspended.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
You were you were you got to target on your
back for.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
The next game and possibly the game after that.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
That's what I don't like.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
And there's so much of it right now that I
was even talking about it.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But it's wild. It's wild. But honestly, for the majority
of it, I don't mind the way the game is
going right now. They won't take out fighting.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
I don't think they can, and uh I think it's
you know, come playoff time. It's a great brand of hockey, yes,
And honestly, I live for playoffs. I'm a playoff player.
I got I love playoff hockey. That's where I shined.
And they let the players play the game in playoffs
and at the end of the day, that's all that
(24:01):
fucking matters is playoffs.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
So kind of do what you want.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Regular season kind of just wrap it up and get
it over with and then playoffs. Let the big boys
come to play and let them play a heavy game.
That's where it really matters. And I think they're doing
a really good job at it.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
I'm with you on the on the aspect of seeing
some some bad things, but for the most part, you're
not going to be able to take fighting out of
the game, because number one, it helps to keep some
of the semblance of order there, you know what I mean,
kind of like what you did as a as like
(24:39):
what Land said as a policeman, you know what I mean,
you have to make sure there's somebody out there on
the ice that like we're we're kind of seeing a
little bit right now where where with the current flyers
where we're seeing guys kind of trying to take liberties
against Mitch Koll, you know what I mean, And and
you're seeing guys like you said before, you would never
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have thought, Sean, yeah, to step up.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You know, right, to throw right. So I'm with you
on that. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Yeah, they just have to like like it doesn't necessarily
have to be a fight either, Like a lot of
the time where it's like, Okay, you hit my guy, well,
I'm gonna go hit three of your guys. Okay, you're
gonna hit You're gonna hit two my guys, okay. One
definitely gonna go run around and hit everybody that I see.
And if it comes to a fight, it comes to
a fight. It doesn't always have to result into a fight.
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You just gotta know how to play the game. I
think like the game within the game, and I think
that's kind of been lost where it's like one big
hit five guys, jumped two guys and there's no gloves off.
Everyone's just scrumbing it up, and then that's a waste
and that doesn't look good in the game. Either just
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a one on one fight or you hit one of
my guys, Okay, well then I'm gonna send out our
finding line and make sure that they're banging your top
d and and we're going at your top guys. And yeah,
I think there's just more game within the game, and
maybe they can promote that a little bit more into
the media, like a game within the game and let
that shine.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
But again, for the most part, I don't I don't
mind the game right now.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
It's fast me coaching now, I see things differently, so
that's why I'm probably saying this now.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
So I don't mind the game.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
It's funny that you brought that up.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So let's transition a bit with this and talk about
what you're doing, you know nowadays. You know, it's obviously
been a couple of years since you last played with
the Flames, So yeah, touch on that you're coaching now,
you know, get into that a little bit.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
I never thought i'd be coaching, never in a million years.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Never. My last year in Calgary, my coach.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
He he's like, you'd be a good coach one day,
so that I kind of went one hair and oute
the other. And I stepped behind the bench randomly with
the buddy of mine during the spring tournament. I saw
him at the rank and he was coached, and I'm like, oh,
let me hop on just to catch up with him.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
And I sat behind the bench and I was like,
what the fuck is this?
Speaker 8 (27:19):
And I just fell I fell in love with it,
and it then became an I started doing on ice development.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
And I saw that I had the.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
I had the voice for it, and my voice just
carried and it was just strong and assertive and kids
listened and they resonated with it and they respected it.
And then when I was telling them to do certain things,
they were doing it and the success they got from
doing it made them smile and it was they just
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it made them happy that they got better and that
was very rewarding. So then I stepped into an assistant
coach role and that was a It was a nightmare
my first assistant coach role because I walked into the ring.
It was myor hockey in Toronto. I'm not from Toronto,
I'm from Hamilton. It's just a different breed of hockey
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in Toronto. So I showed up to the rink like
the practice plan. I'm like, okay, Like what's the head
coach got And he's like, all right, what's you know?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
You have a couple of drills. I'll do a couple
of drills and we'll go from there.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
I'm like, there's no plan, Like, you don't have a plan,
there's no no, you have no plan with this practice,
no just wing it. I'm like, hey, this, I can't
operate like that. So I stuck that out for a
year and I was like I need to be a
head coach and just try it. So now I'm my
second year head coaching m M, and I love it.
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I love it. I'm very hard, I demand a lot,
I have a high standard. I conduct myself professional. It's
the only way that I know how to conduct myself
as a coach and as a person. But I love
I love coaching. I love it, and I'm I'm learning
what I could have done better as a player while
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I'm coaching.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
So it's it's it's.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Not regret that I have, but like I look back
and shit, like could have been better in so many areas.
But it's very rewarding and very Yeah, it's just very rewarding.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Is that how you find yourself coaching now? You know,
like based off of the type of player that you were? No,
do you find yourself coaching your guys more like that
or is that something that you kind of you know,
what what what was it about that that you know
kind of got you into that?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Like, is that kind of where you're at?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah? No, I don't. It's just it's just work ethic.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
It's the work ethics side of things that these kids need.
And I'm only coaching at a junior B level, so
it's six, They got two sixteen year olds, and then
it can go up to twenty and and they're trying to
get to the OHL, they're trying to go to college,
so they're then they don't really understand or know what
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it takes. So I'm instilling development. I'm instilling good small habits.
I'm instilling every day culture on what it really takes
to succeed in life, to prolong your hockey career, if
that's what you want, I'm not again. I learned so
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many systems. I learned so many small details. I learned
from the best captains, the best senterment is, the best wingers,
the best defenseman, even the best goalies, even like you know,
athletic trainers and medical trainers and I and I soaked
so much.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Up in my head that I'm giving it all away now.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
And I'm every single day there's something new for these
kids to learn. And if they take if I say
twenty things in one day and they take two of them, great.
So I'm not just coming from a place of me.
I'm coming from a place of I learned from I
learned from Finilla Cavalier, I learned from Clodes Drew. I
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learned from Marshan. I learned from Bergeron, I learned from Chara,
I learned from Pronger, I learned from Giordano Lucic. I'm
taking everything I learned from these guys like Monhan and Gudreau,
like all these guys like Domi and Keller and Declaire
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and Chicken and like, I played with all these guys
and they're my brothers, and I listened to everything that
they did, and I taught them a lot of things too.
So I'm taking it all and I'm just teaching it all.
So it's not just me in my game. It's it's
how to play hockey two hundred feet, just hockey, just
hockey players, not just me.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Go wow, that's amazing, man. Yeah, we're liking you coaching now.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Man.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
We're like, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's awesome. It's really
really fun. There's just yeah, it's awesome. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
So much ask you this question. Sorry I have to
do this. Are you of Italian descent?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I am okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Not Portuguese.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
I know a lot of people who will mix that up,
but through and all though, but I'm Portugal.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I'm definitely not Portuguese. I'm Italian.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
I was just wondering, man, because it makes a lot
of sense that a five or ten and ninety six
pound guy going around playing like the way you played, yeah,
wearing it on your sleeve like all of us Guineas do.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
Okay, all right, yeah that's probably Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
That probably went a long way in Philly too.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
Being Italian and in plain the way I played.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Would you be an Italian still used to be a chef?
What was your pregame meal of choice?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Uh? It was really weird.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
Well, I don't in the NHL culture it's not that weird,
but to normal general populated folk, it's definitely weird. But
I took a little bit like the Swedes. The Sweds
like to mix everything up, like they like really different
concoctions on their plates. So I was like, okay, that's
I can try that. So it was it was always penne.
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I put penne sweet potato, chicken, brass, broccoli, rice, and
then I would put like some salad on top, and
then I put uh some alfredo and Italian dressing, and
I mixed it all up.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
It was bomb.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
It was so fucking good. Yeah, and that was that
was a game. Yeah, oh yeah, fre meal, that's pregame
at like oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah, that's like that's the away games. That's away games.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
And then because like away games, there's a huge buffet, right, there's.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Whatever you want, even if it wasn't there, you just
asked for it and they came to you.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
But but then at home in Philly, we went to
Spaso and yeah, that with that pasta, it was so good.
We would get there'd be like fifteen twenty of us
and they bring out the bread with the olive oil
and the oil and the cheese in there, and you know,
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we start with that and we'd go for loaves of
bread like we'd rush.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I'd be full before my my, my lunch came out.
And then we'd have.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Penny vodka sauce and but with the chicken and the
bacon in it and a coke on side, it was
just and then you eat so much you'd be so tired.
You go home, take a two hour and out, three
hour and a half, wake up at four o'clock, got coffee,
go to the rink and yeah, those those are the days.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
Yeah really yeah, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Awesome.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
Still man, I'm I'm pretty good man. You you got
anything left for him?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I'll tell you what, man, I think this was great.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Man.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
We we love listening to the so what you did
back in the day, and we love hearing about what
you're doing right now, especially with the junior B level guys.
We do a lot of interviews with a lot of prospects.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Lance and I do.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
We speak to a lot of guys and it's great
to see player like yourself who's able to take everything
that you've learned from some of those great players that
you've rattled off and then be able to give it
back to the kids, you know, and help them learn
how to be hockey players, how the professional I mean, yeah, yeah,
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that's awesome, dude, Jack, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Man. We really appreciate you taking the time to do
this more.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
No problem at all, guys, thanks reaching out. This is
this is fun. I enjoyed this.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
Yeah, man, we did enjoy having you on many good
catching up and love to see that passion you're still
able to get back and still.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Be involved in the game.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Some of the guys just you know, walk away and uh,
you know, are good with it. But it's It's good
to see, you know, some of the old guards still
being able to give back. Like Steele said, so I
appreciate your time, man.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Yeah, no problem at all. Guys, take care of have
a great night.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
All right, Thank you, Zach, You guys.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Well, Lance, What do you think, man, we had a
great show there with Zach Rinaldo, a fan favorite from
the Philadelphia Flyers from a couple of years ago. Man,
what do you think that was a pretty good show?
Speaker 6 (37:10):
What do you think that was pretty good?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Man?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I always like catching up with, you know, some of
these guys that just you know, stick in the back
of our minds as a Philadelphia player, and like Zach saidman,
and like we said, I think he was born to
be a Flyer. I'm pretty sad that he didn't get
to stay a little bit longer because I just respect
the heck out of a guy that plays the.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Game the way Zach did.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
And you know, it's just great to see him still
being involved with the game and giving back to the
youth of this sport and hopefully developing some complete hockey
players like he said, that are going to be the
next group of you know, OHL players and then maybe
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possibly pros and all that. So, you know, good on
him for sticking with the game, and you know, hopefully
he can take that and run with it as well,
because you obviously saw the passion when he was talking
about it. He enjoys, you know, his new role, and
he seemed to be doing darn good at it as well.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I would have to say I agree with that for sure. Man.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
You know, he's very much enjoying the coaching and very
much enjoying what he's doing. And it's great to see that.
You know, I always appreciated how he played, Like I
said to him before, Man, you know, it just struck
me as this five 't ten spark plug that had
to be you know, a little bit Italian in him
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to be going around swinging and chucking like he.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Was and still able to make some passes, still able
to you know, be a good penalty killer.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Still be able to skate well, still be able to
you know, be that type of player that can play
up against other team's top lines, you know what I mean.
So it was good to see that he was able
to have a successful.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Career, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
So well, Lance, I gotta tell you something, man, we
had a good show here we'd like to say thank
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So very thanks to that as well too. Thank you
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We're doing all the hard work and pushing all the
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right buttons and getting all the right people. So thank
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Speaker 3 (40:32):
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It means a lot like and subscribe to be able
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We're sorry we didn't get into any Fantoms coverage this
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we didn't get any coverage for you this week. We
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Speaker 1 (42:00):
The Hockey Writers, Inc.
Welcome to The Hockey Writers, Inc.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The show where the writer is fresh off the presses
and the ink is not dry. Relax, the keyboard is
off and the press boxes closed with the mic is
just getting warmed up. Join your host, Lance Green, the
guardian of the blue paint turned writer, and your co
host Ron Steel Flyers as we bring you all the
latest on the Philadelphia Flyers. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to
(00:41):
the next edition of The Hockey Writers, Inc.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
With your host Way Screen.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
All right, guys, hello, and welcome to a very special
edition of The Hockey Writers, Inc. A Flyers based podcast.
This week we had joining us former fan favorite Zach Ronaldo. Zach,
how are you done?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Good guys, thanks for reaching out. Appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Yeah, for sure, about dad, Lance, we got a real
special guest sitting in here for this episode, right.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Now, most of you may remember, while Zach may have
only played parts of a few seasons with the Flyers,
he played with a lasting impression on the city. And
what I mean by that is Ronaldo knew his role
and he played it to perfection. Zach was a grinder
who always played the game on full tilt. It didn't
matter whether he was laying a monster hit, antagonizing the opposition,
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or playing the role of a policeman out on the
ice where he would drop the mits and go after
someone who was messing with one of his star players. Zach,
in my mind, will there be respected in the city
because he played the game without fear and he never
took a shift off. So Steve, let's get into some
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questions for this man.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Why don't way that for sure? For sure?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Zach, Like, like we said, you are a fan favorite.
You're definitely play the game the right way. The way
Lance and I liked the way to see the game.
You know, we we the type of player that you
were is missing in this game for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
We need to see more. Guys.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Thank you very much for hopping on here. Thank you
all folks for checking us out and tuning in. If
you like what we're doing, please hit the legs.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
This is a.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
Philadelphia Flyers centric podcast, Hockey Way Think, Episode number where
the Hockey Waders, Inc.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Welcomes Zach Ranaldo Philadelphia Flyer.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
Zach, I gotta tell you, buddy, Let's let's take it
back here a little bit, all right, tell us what
it was like being drafted by the Philadelphia Flyers.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
It was it was a dream come true. To be
honest with you, I grew up a Flyer fan. I
grew up Eric Rosstan. I think I I was born
with orange blood running through my veins, so.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
So to be drafted there was it was. It was
the dream come true.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Literally, I'll say, I think it's a perfect match, you
know what I mean. I think it worked out well
for both Philadelphia Flyers and for you as well.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
So when I was playing, my dad always was my
biggest influence, and he instilled in me that even if
you're not the best, that's something you damn sure better
not let anybody out work you. And you know, I
think you played a similar mind with a similar mindset
in that sense, because I don't think you ever took
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a shift off. I mean, can you speak on who
helped you mold that way of playing the game as
well as just being a man in general.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Yeah, I think I just I love I loved working hard.
I still love working hard. It's just it's fun to me.
It's it's fun, you know, going through a little bit
of pain, and it's fun for me. Being totally exhausted
because I know what the end result will be with
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doing those hard things. So it was always go through
hard times to get the reward at the end. And
for me, it was play every shift like it's going
to be your last. And I live by that and
(04:40):
I still I still teach that as a coach right now,
to play every shift like it's their last. But I
think I just hated losing. I hated losing so much
more than I love to win. So when I was
on the ice, I wanted that puck. I wanted to
put you through the glass. I wanted to do everything
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I could from to help my team win because I
hated to lose so much. So that was just I
think that was just born that way. I think I'm
chemically wired that way. And I learned that at a
young age eight years old. Yeah, and I just it's
it's still in me. So I was just born that way.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Okay, I mean that would kind of explain, or maybe
you could help us explain why your game is not
just about you know, the big hits and the rearranging
of other guys' faces.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Mm hmm, what the what's the question?
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Nor your your game is more than just rearranging other
guys' faces, right, and and and and and the big hits,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
It is more than that, right, yeah, it is.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
I mean I think you know when I when I was,
when I made big hits, I that that was a
that was a natural talent to me. I could time things,
I could read the play. You know how goalscorers can
dictate and be to where the puck is about to be.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Well, I had the gift and I still do.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
I have the gift to dictate where the player is
going to be with the puck before he gets it.
So I'm there ready to hit someone before he even
knows that he's about to get it. I could just
time it and anticipate it and think three, four or
five steps ahead. But because my hits were so big,
I had to and to the bell. And I was
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never scared to answer the bell. And I knew that
was the part of the game. Unfortunately, and fortunately.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
That I hit so much, and I hit so big,
and I hit so.
Speaker 8 (06:44):
Hard that it kind of took over some of the
other things that I was able to do. And people
saw that this kid can make these devastating hits and
he can end to the bell and he can pass
and he can scape. Okay, well you know, let's let's
let's give this kid a shot here, but we need
him to do X, Y and Z and nothing else.
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And you know, I I played to my strength and
I was okay with that.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, I mean that's what got you there in the
first place. But uh, you know, I think with your
play also, with you playing at that high paced, you know,
full tilt, like I said, I think that that kind
of energized your team at points too. Even if they
were down a goal, you weren't playing like you were
down a goal. You were playing, you know, to at
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full tilt. So they had to elevate their game because
I mean, you just had the crowd going, you know,
when you were on the ice, every hit, you know,
they were on their feet. And as far as that
goes too, I mean you talk about somebody you having
the answer the bell and you're antagonizing that other team
and chirping and stuff like that like TK does. Now
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for the Flyers a little bit, you know, I think
that that plays into the part where they're now gonna
take penalties against you and everything like that. So now
you're bringing somebody else into the box with you that
maybe a first or second line player in that sense.
So you know that all that, all that played a
part in your game, I think, and that you you
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were very effective in that sense.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Yeah, absolutely, And I wasn't aware of that, probably until
I made the NHL and I had coaching and coaches
tell me like, hey, like, you know you're look at
your your penalties, but then also look at the penalties
that you're drawing in such a short amount of ice
time too. So once I was realizing what I was
doing and how effective it was, I bought into it.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I wasn't I wasn't a big guy for chirping. I do.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
I think talk is cheap, but I let I let
my actions speak louder than my words. So and I
think that goes such a longer way than talking talking
ship on the ice that if you can go and
give guys the gears physically and not say a word
that pisses guys off even more. And like I wouldn't stop, right,
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So if I drew one penalty, I drew two and
then I took one, or if it was for nothing
else or it was four nothing them again, I just
hated to lose so much, regardless of what the score was,
even if we were winning. When I went on my shift,
I didn't want to lose my shift, So I was
always going to come at you no matter what the
circumstances were. Sometimes I got me in trouble, but sometimes
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for the most part it was it was very successful.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Right in that sense you talked.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know, you stand at five ten and roughly about
one hundred and ninety two pounds when you last played.
At least I know that fluctuated a little bit throughout
your career, but according to my calculations, you had somewhere
over one hundred and thirty bouts in your professional career.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Can you discuss.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Any like techniques you had going into a fight or
or did you a lot of guys trained in the
off season boxing, Uh, you know, mixed martial arts, anything
like that.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
It was it was killed or be killed for me,
and I knew that he wanted to kill me. I
wanted to kill him, and again I hated to lose,
so I made sure I didn't die, and I just yeah,
I did everything in my power, everything in my heart,
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to to not lose, and for the majority of the time,
it paid off. I was never seriously hurt in a fight.
I was knocked out a couple of times, but when
I was knocked out, I was always still standing. And
I was always knocked out for maybe a second or two,
and then I would pop back into the fight. But no,
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there's there's no technique. I think it's just you have
to have a strong forearm grip, and you can't be
scared to get hit. Once you are scared to get hit.
I remember Craig Beruby asking me, I think when he.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I don't know. I forget what year was. And I
fought Uh.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
I fought Shaw in Philly when he was playing for Chicago,
and for some reason, I would always because I didn't
have any defense.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I didn't care about being hit. I didn't care.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I still don't. And then I was always getting punched,
like three or four times before I could punch back.
And I remember teeth after the fight. He's like that,
He's like, do you like getting hit?
Speaker 6 (11:37):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You don't, you don't you don't defend yourself.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
And I'm like, because I don't really feel them sometimes,
so I was and I didn't really clue in, but Yeah,
I would get hit a couple of times and it
pissed me off. Youvemore and maybe I feeled my fire
a little bit, but no, there's there's just it's a four.
It's a strong forearm grip and not being scared to
get punched in the head.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I like to taste
of my own blood. It just me up a little
bit more so.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Guys on that, man.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
Yeah, all right, So let's stay in that same kind
of vein, right, who was in your in your experience
you're playing experience.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
What was the easiest player to get under their skin?
Who was the easiest player to knock off their game?
Where all they did was taste you around all night hockey.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
I don't like on them, not even like I don't
think there was too many guys. Oh you know what
it was Sean Thornton. Okay, Sean Thornton fucking hated me.
He hated me, and he jumped me. He jumped me
once or twice. I fought him respectfully in Boston, But
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I hea and ship Tamara in Washington when Kamara was playing,
it was it was those older dudes that had like
the old man's strength that like that I really pissed
off unintentionally, like they were fucking tough. I respect those guys,
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they're tough, and but something about my game really pissed
them off. Those two guys, and they they they hated
me so much. And yeah, I clearly I was doing
my job because they hated me, and I respect that.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Okay, So so with that, you talked about a couple
of guys. But who's your favorite kind of tough.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Guy of all time?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
You know, I like ty Dome and stuff growing up, but.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Like current or in the.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Past all time, like you know, growing up, who do
uh kind of I love there?
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Eric Lindross, Biggie eighty eight, all day long. He He's
the He's the reason I played hockey. He was the
reason that I hit. He was the reason that I
fell in love with the flyers.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Him. To me, he could do it all.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
He could crush people, he could score goals, he could fly,
he could stick.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Handle, he could he was.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
He was the definition of what a hockey player and honestly,
my sonest opinion, he still is the definition of what
a real hockey player is. I can do it all,
not just the one dimensional guy. But like, you got
so many players now that's just Oh, I'm just a
goal scorer. I'm just the unforcer. But we're missing we're
missing players like Lindross, like in my opinion, like Tom Wilson,
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Tom Wilson does it all. And I love William, I
respect him, but growing up, Lindross was the guy.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
He was the god for me.
Speaker 8 (14:58):
My whole bedroom was Flyers stuff and Lindross stuff and
growing up my I was a captain of my teams
and I was number eighty eight, and like I he's
the reason.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, he was fucking deadly.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And you you met him too before, right?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I did? I did. I met him at Winter Classic.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, there you go. How did that go for you?
Speaker 7 (15:24):
I mean then you know that you know what they say, right,
like never meet your heroes and that kind of thing, Right,
So how'd that go for you?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
It was all right? It was okay. I was.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
I was expecting a little more, to be honest with you,
but he was nice, he was respectful, and I'm kind
of just gonna leave it there. It was, yeah, but
it is true, like you never want to meet your idols. Yeah,
But honestly, I just respect him so much for what
he did for me. But I thought even him knowing
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it or appreciating what he did for me.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
But yeah, I just.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Respect that guy a lot, regardless of whatever our situation
was when we met.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm with you on that man. And he's actually the
reason I became a Flyers fan right when he was
coming into the league.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Fight when I started, you know, paying attention to hockey,
you know, and I think I was waited that perfect age.
So all right, so now I'm gonna ask if you
can do this now, what is the most memorable fight
you've ever had?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Like memorable meaning like it was.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Really exciting, you're the most proud of.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
Oh, there's a couple, whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
There's a couple like my my most.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
There's three that use stand out my It was my
first fight at the Wells Fargo in pre season against
Dale Weese.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I remember that one.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
I beat the wheels off. We love we sir again.
I respect him, I don't, I don't. I'm on these podcasts.
I don't really talk ship about players. I respect everybody
I fought. Everybody has respect that I got into locations with.
But I did I beat him up, kind him open,
and I'll never forget the feeling and in the response
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I got from the fans. So in that kind of
that that set the tone for me being in Philly.
That set the tone. My second one was the again
at Wells Fargo against the Gainlaw just because again Law.
You know, he's a legend, he's a Hall of Famer,
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He's fucking Jerome Againlaw.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And when I fought Jerome.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
I went into the dressing room and and Steve Downey
was there greeting me, and I was I was.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I yelled at downs that.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
I was like, fuck man, like I just fought Jerome mcguila,
Like I was still a kid. I was twenty twenty
three years old, so I was kind of like, you know,
still like surreal that I just had to fight Jerome Mcguinla.
So that was a pretty cool experience. And that Krombing
one was very memorable too, just because he was he
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was a big dude. He was a really big dude.
I know there was some altercation I think before the
game prior to that one game, the last game he
put in Tampa something with g or Or Shenner, and yeah,
I hit him and he went down on one knee,
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and I remember thinking as I'm about to hit him again,
I'm like, if this kid gets up again, I could
be a next on the ground. So I made sure
that he didn't get up, and I remember Danny b
making sure that the refs knew that he wasn't down
on the ground laying down before I hit him right,
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So and then again just the response and all those
three fights, like my ears were ringing from how loud
the crowd was.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, and you just.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
That feeling just warms your heart, it warms your blood,
and it's contagious.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
It's a drug, to be honest with you, So yeah,
it was.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Those are my three most memorable ones that that are
close to my heart.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
As weird as that.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think you fought Jerome again. I
think you pretty much clobbered him, get the not out
of him.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
That was definitely like my favorite two.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I even had a doubt here to like mention that
because I respected again less so much, because like you said,
he could do it all.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
He could score, he could make some great.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Assists, he skated well, he balled his own fights, He
knock you on your foot and the boards, you know,
just complete player like Lindross was so you know when
you when you took him on and took him down,
I was just like, man, this dude, this dude is
the truth. Now he's like he moved up a peg
in my mind for sure. But with that being said,
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what do you what are your kind of thoughts on
today's kind of kindler, gentler game and you know, how
do you feel like it's moved in that direction and
stuff when obviously, like you just mentioned, like when a
fight happens or a big check like you used to
do happens, when everybody in the stands is standing up,
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you know, on their feets, yelling and screaming. I don't
know why they would go away from that, But you know,
what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Per se?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I like the new I like the new NHL. I do.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
I think it's very fast, the players are are very skilled.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
What what I what? I honestly I do.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
I do like how there's so many random players fighting now,
You've got so many skilled random players that you wouldn't
even know existed some nights because they're they're fighting and
the fighting is sloppy and it's it's not quality. But
I like it because it's passionate. It's not staged fights
right now, and they're they're here the moment where they
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might not last more than ten twelve seconds, but it's
very passionate. So and I respect that. I do like
the way the game is going. I do think that
they should implement well, draft more physical players that are
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naturally gifted with being physical, kind of like how I
got drafted, and then take their game and mold them
into what you want without taking the physical elements away.
I just think they're drafting too many one dimensional skilled
kids instead of implementing or taking a taking a tough
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kid that's got some skill, like a diamond in the rough,
and and then sharpening them up when they're in the NHL.
But one thing that I keep seeing with the fights is, uh,
well two things. I see a lot of a lot
of players turning their backs when they get hit. And
that's that's. Oh, that's been a constant thing. That's been
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a constant thing. That's just it's if guys are a
lot more they're timid. In today's NHL, they're very timid.
They're very scared to get hit, the very scared of confrontation,
which I don't like. But like a lot of these
fights there they hit each other while they're on the ground,
like if you watch the Strong that Strome fight last night,
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like Buddy was on the ground and they're still punching
in If you know, six seven years ago, if you
were to even think about punching someone on the ground,
you were in the news getting crucified, you were suspended.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
You were you were you got to target on your
back for.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
The next game and possibly the game after that.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
That's what I don't like.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
And there's so much of it right now that I
was even talking about it.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But it's wild. It's wild. But honestly, for the majority
of it, I don't mind the way the game is
going right now. They won't take out fighting.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
I don't think they can, and uh I think it's
you know, come playoff time. It's a great brand of hockey, yes,
And honestly, I live for playoffs. I'm a playoff player.
I got I love playoff hockey. That's where I shined.
And they let the players play the game in playoffs
and at the end of the day, that's all that
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fucking matters is playoffs.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
So kind of do what you want.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Regular season kind of just wrap it up and get
it over with and then playoffs. Let the big boys
come to play and let them play a heavy game.
That's where it really matters. And I think they're doing
a really good job at it.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
I'm with you on the on the aspect of seeing
some some bad things, but for the most part, you're
not going to be able to take fighting out of
the game, because number one, it helps to keep some
of the semblance of order there, you know what I mean,
kind of like what you did as a as like
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what Land said as a policeman, you know what I mean,
you have to make sure there's somebody out there on
the ice that like we're we're kind of seeing a
little bit right now where where with the current flyers
where we're seeing guys kind of trying to take liberties
against Mitch Koll, you know what I mean, And and
you're seeing guys like you said before, you would never
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have thought, Sean, yeah, to step up.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You know, right, to throw right. So I'm with you
on that. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Yeah, they just have to like like it doesn't necessarily
have to be a fight either, Like a lot of
the time where it's like, Okay, you hit my guy, well,
I'm gonna go hit three of your guys. Okay, you're
gonna hit You're gonna hit two my guys, okay. One
definitely gonna go run around and hit everybody that I see.
And if it comes to a fight, it comes to
a fight. It doesn't always have to result into a fight.
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You just gotta know how to play the game. I
think like the game within the game, and I think
that's kind of been lost where it's like one big
hit five guys, jumped two guys and there's no gloves off.
Everyone's just scrumbing it up, and then that's a waste
and that doesn't look good in the game. Either just
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a one on one fight or you hit one of
my guys, Okay, well then I'm gonna send out our
finding line and make sure that they're banging your top
d and and we're going at your top guys. And yeah,
I think there's just more game within the game, and
maybe they can promote that a little bit more into
the media, like a game within the game and let
that shine.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
But again, for the most part, I don't I don't
mind the game right now.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
It's fast me coaching now, I see things differently, so
that's why I'm probably saying this now.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
So I don't mind the game.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
It's funny that you brought that up.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So let's transition a bit with this and talk about
what you're doing, you know nowadays. You know, it's obviously
been a couple of years since you last played with
the Flames, So yeah, touch on that you're coaching now,
you know, get into that a little bit.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
I never thought i'd be coaching, never in a million years.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Never. My last year in Calgary, my coach.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
He he's like, you'd be a good coach one day,
so that I kind of went one hair and oute
the other. And I stepped behind the bench randomly with
the buddy of mine during the spring tournament. I saw
him at the rank and he was coached, and I'm like, oh,
let me hop on just to catch up with him.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
And I sat behind the bench and I was like,
what the fuck is this?
Speaker 8 (27:19):
And I just fell I fell in love with it,
and it then became an I started doing on ice development.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
And I saw that I had the.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
I had the voice for it, and my voice just
carried and it was just strong and assertive and kids
listened and they resonated with it and they respected it.
And then when I was telling them to do certain things,
they were doing it and the success they got from
doing it made them smile and it was they just
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it made them happy that they got better and that
was very rewarding. So then I stepped into an assistant
coach role and that was a It was a nightmare
my first assistant coach role because I walked into the ring.
It was myor hockey in Toronto. I'm not from Toronto,
I'm from Hamilton. It's just a different breed of hockey
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in Toronto. So I showed up to the rink like
the practice plan. I'm like, okay, Like what's the head
coach got And he's like, all right, what's you know?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
You have a couple of drills. I'll do a couple
of drills and we'll go from there.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
I'm like, there's no plan, Like, you don't have a plan,
there's no no, you have no plan with this practice,
no just wing it. I'm like, hey, this, I can't
operate like that. So I stuck that out for a
year and I was like I need to be a
head coach and just try it. So now I'm my
second year head coaching m M, and I love it.
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I love it. I'm very hard, I demand a lot,
I have a high standard. I conduct myself professional. It's
the only way that I know how to conduct myself
as a coach and as a person. But I love
I love coaching. I love it, and I'm I'm learning
what I could have done better as a player while
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I'm coaching.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
So it's it's it's.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Not regret that I have, but like I look back
and shit, like could have been better in so many areas.
But it's very rewarding and very Yeah, it's just very rewarding.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Is that how you find yourself coaching now? You know,
like based off of the type of player that you were? No,
do you find yourself coaching your guys more like that
or is that something that you kind of you know,
what what what was it about that that you know
kind of got you into that?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Like, is that kind of where you're at?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah? No, I don't. It's just it's just work ethic.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
It's the work ethics side of things that these kids need.
And I'm only coaching at a junior B level, so
it's six, They got two sixteen year olds, and then
it can go up to twenty and and they're trying to
get to the OHL, they're trying to go to college,
so they're then they don't really understand or know what
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it takes. So I'm instilling development. I'm instilling good small habits.
I'm instilling every day culture on what it really takes
to succeed in life, to prolong your hockey career, if
that's what you want, I'm not again. I learned so
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many systems. I learned so many small details. I learned
from the best captains, the best senterment is, the best wingers,
the best defenseman, even the best goalies, even like you know,
athletic trainers and medical trainers and I and I soaked
so much.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Up in my head that I'm giving it all away now.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
And I'm every single day there's something new for these
kids to learn. And if they take if I say
twenty things in one day and they take two of them, great.
So I'm not just coming from a place of me.
I'm coming from a place of I learned from I
learned from Finilla Cavalier, I learned from Clodes Drew. I
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learned from Marshan. I learned from Bergeron, I learned from Chara,
I learned from Pronger, I learned from Giordano Lucic. I'm
taking everything I learned from these guys like Monhan and Gudreau,
like all these guys like Domi and Keller and Declaire
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and Chicken and like, I played with all these guys
and they're my brothers, and I listened to everything that
they did, and I taught them a lot of things too.
So I'm taking it all and I'm just teaching it all.
So it's not just me in my game. It's it's
how to play hockey two hundred feet, just hockey, just
hockey players, not just me.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Go wow, that's amazing, man. Yeah, we're liking you coaching now.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Man.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
We're like, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's awesome. It's really
really fun. There's just yeah, it's awesome. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
So much ask you this question. Sorry I have to
do this. Are you of Italian descent?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I am okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Not Portuguese.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
I know a lot of people who will mix that up,
but through and all though, but I'm Portugal.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I'm definitely not Portuguese. I'm Italian.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
I was just wondering, man, because it makes a lot
of sense that a five or ten and ninety six
pound guy going around playing like the way you played, yeah,
wearing it on your sleeve like all of us Guineas do.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
Okay, all right, yeah that's probably Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
That probably went a long way in Philly too.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
Being Italian and in plain the way I played.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Would you be an Italian still used to be a chef?
What was your pregame meal of choice?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Uh? It was really weird.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
Well, I don't in the NHL culture it's not that weird,
but to normal general populated folk, it's definitely weird. But
I took a little bit like the Swedes. The Sweds
like to mix everything up, like they like really different
concoctions on their plates. So I was like, okay, that's
I can try that. So it was it was always penne.
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I put penne sweet potato, chicken, brass, broccoli, rice, and
then I would put like some salad on top, and
then I put uh some alfredo and Italian dressing, and
I mixed it all up.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
It was bomb.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
It was so fucking good. Yeah, and that was that
was a game. Yeah, oh yeah, fre meal, that's pregame
at like oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah, that's like that's the away games. That's away games.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
And then because like away games, there's a huge buffet, right, there's.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Whatever you want, even if it wasn't there, you just
asked for it and they came to you.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
But but then at home in Philly, we went to
Spaso and yeah, that with that pasta, it was so good.
We would get there'd be like fifteen twenty of us
and they bring out the bread with the olive oil
and the oil and the cheese in there, and you know,
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we start with that and we'd go for loaves of
bread like we'd rush.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I'd be full before my my, my lunch came out.
And then we'd have.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Penny vodka sauce and but with the chicken and the
bacon in it and a coke on side, it was
just and then you eat so much you'd be so tired.
You go home, take a two hour and out, three
hour and a half, wake up at four o'clock, got coffee,
go to the rink and yeah, those those are the days.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
Yeah really yeah, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Awesome.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
Still man, I'm I'm pretty good man. You you got
anything left for him?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I'll tell you what, man, I think this was great.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Man.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
We we love listening to the so what you did
back in the day, and we love hearing about what
you're doing right now, especially with the junior B level guys.
We do a lot of interviews with a lot of prospects.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Lance and I do.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
We speak to a lot of guys and it's great
to see player like yourself who's able to take everything
that you've learned from some of those great players that
you've rattled off and then be able to give it
back to the kids, you know, and help them learn
how to be hockey players, how the professional I mean, yeah, yeah,
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that's awesome, dude, Jack, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Man. We really appreciate you taking the time to do
this more.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
No problem at all, guys, thanks reaching out. This is
this is fun. I enjoyed this.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
Yeah, man, we did enjoy having you on many good
catching up and love to see that passion you're still
able to get back and still.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Be involved in the game.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Some of the guys just you know, walk away and uh,
you know, are good with it. But it's It's good
to see, you know, some of the old guards still
being able to give back. Like Steele said, so I
appreciate your time, man.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Yeah, no problem at all. Guys, take care of have
a great night.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
All right, Thank you, Zach, You guys.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Well, Lance, What do you think, man, we had a
great show there with Zach Rinaldo, a fan favorite from
the Philadelphia Flyers from a couple of years ago. Man,
what do you think that was a pretty good show?
Speaker 6 (37:10):
What do you think that was pretty good?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Man?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I always like catching up with, you know, some of
these guys that just you know, stick in the back
of our minds as a Philadelphia player, and like Zach saidman,
and like we said, I think he was born to
be a Flyer. I'm pretty sad that he didn't get
to stay a little bit longer because I just respect
the heck out of a guy that plays the.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Game the way Zach did.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
And you know, it's just great to see him still
being involved with the game and giving back to the
youth of this sport and hopefully developing some complete hockey
players like he said, that are going to be the
next group of you know, OHL players and then maybe
(37:55):
possibly pros and all that. So, you know, good on
him for sticking with the game, and you know, hopefully
he can take that and run with it as well,
because you obviously saw the passion when he was talking
about it. He enjoys, you know, his new role, and
he seemed to be doing darn good at it as well.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I would have to say I agree with that for sure. Man.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
You know, he's very much enjoying the coaching and very
much enjoying what he's doing. And it's great to see that.
You know, I always appreciated how he played, Like I
said to him before, Man, you know, it just struck
me as this five 't ten spark plug that had
to be you know, a little bit Italian in him
(38:40):
to be going around swinging and chucking like he.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Was and still able to make some passes, still able
to you know, be a good penalty killer.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Still be able to skate well, still be able to
you know, be that type of player that can play
up against other team's top lines, you know what I mean.
So it was good to see that he was able
to have a successful.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Career, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
So well, Lance, I gotta tell you something, man, we
had a good show here we'd like to say thank
you all very much for tuning in and watching us.
If you like what we do, please hit to sly
out the like and subscribe button. We'd also like to
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Speaker 7 (39:24):
And check them boys out. Oh man, that they got
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Go over check them out, get to see where they're
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I promise. They're the ones that's.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Supplied to music to the show. And big thanks to
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guys for allowing to do that and for giving us
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(40:04):
as well too, especially to Lance's articles that he's done
lately and in all of our great shows as well too.
So very thanks to that as well too. Thank you
very much for a speaker, for all the things that
you do allow us to get out to all the
podcasting platforms. Thank you very much of that. Lance, Thank you.
We're doing all the hard work and pushing all the
(40:24):
right buttons and getting all the right people. So thank
you for what you do. Man, Why don't you tell
the folks that we can get you.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, guys, you can catch all of my stuff of
course on Steel Flyers dot com, but you can also
catch me on x at Lancetock Green thirty nine and man,
just thank you guys.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Like Steele said, we appreciate all your views, all your reads.
It means a lot like and subscribe to be able
to find out more of what we're doing.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Because we're not going to stop.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
We're going to keep it going here and just trying
to get bigger and better and bring you the best
not only Flyers coverage, but coverage on all your prospects
as well as with the prospect watch there all the
Flyers got a lot of picks their year's guys, So
head on over there. Maybe some of those players that
we've interviewed there will be a Flyer Steel fingers crossed right.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Fingers crossed right.
Speaker 7 (41:23):
We're sorry we didn't get into any Fantoms coverage this
week on the show this week, but we promise we'll
be hitting them guys up here.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
You know, they've been doing pretty well too, so to
wining some games as of late. And also big props
and thanks to the Teddy Bear toss that they had
here in the last game. I think it was over
eleven thousand teddy bears day were able to collect differently
high valum, so that's really awesome man. You know, so
thank you to the Lee High Valley Fantoms. Were sorry
(41:51):
we didn't get any coverage for you this week. We
will for do it next week.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
I'm your co host Ron steel Flyers, and we will
catch you all on the next episode.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
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