A Lot of Misinformation

In today’s episode, we are going to discuss the things that have been released, so far, about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
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I'm your host, Ho Ho. So Hey, y'all's doing I
hope you're doing good. I really do hope you're doing

(00:46):
better than I am right now because apparently I had
a frug on my throat right whenever I was trying
to speak. I hate it when that happens, I really do.
So we're going to be talking about the a lot
of the information, a lot of the stuff that's been
coming out regarding the person that assassinated Charlie Kirk, and

(01:09):
you know, just try trying to cut through the bs
and what not about that. That's that's that's pretty much.
It just going to be talking about that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Look, I'm the type of guy I do look at
a lot of different conspiracy theories, I really do, you know,
and you know, it's one of them things that there's
a lot of people out there that are like, oh,
why do you you know, why do you look into
that stuff? Why do you give it any credence, you know,
any of that kind of stuff. And you know, really

(01:44):
it boils down to this, if the government was more
forthcoming with information, then there really wouldn't be a lot
of conspiracy theories out there. You know, I'm just kind
of saying, just doubting that out there. You know, if
they were more forthcoming about things, if they actually you know,

(02:07):
released prudent information to let the public know what's actually
going on, then there wouldn't be much of a need.
I mean, granted, I understand it, you know, some cases
you can't, you know, whenever it is a matter of
nationalist security, that kind of information really does need to

(02:27):
be kept classified whatever clearance level they want to throw
on it. But you know, that's at least understandable if
it is going to jeopardize the public, if it's going
to jeopardize you know, active operations, then yeah, I get that.

(02:50):
But a lot of the times it's just they don't
want the public to know what's actually going on, and
so they market as classified. They think it's more you know,
if the information is released than anything else. And you know, sometimes,
like in this case, you don't get a lot of
that information coming out because, well, let's face it, there's

(03:12):
an active investigation. You don't want to, you know, spoil
the waters if you will, with all the information out
there because or at least the truth, because it is
an active investigation. And in which case, if that's the case,
then yeah, okay, I get it. But after the fact,

(03:33):
we have a right to know. And in some instances,
you know, there are certain information that we need in
order to help protect ourselves, you know, in the area
that an incident happened, we just do. So there's been
a lot of videos, I mean not quite so much anymore,

(03:53):
but I mean they're still there. You can check them out.
You know, a lot of different videos that I have
watched over on x and a lot of theories, a
lot of conspiracy theories about the shooter, where they were located,
all this other kind of stuff about this person in
the crowd and that person in the crowd. And now

(04:15):
it's like, oh, the bullet came from behind. Here's a
muzzle flash. And the muzzle flash to me, doesn't really
look like a mussle flash. It looks like a flash flash,
you know, like from a camera somebody taking a pick
or that's what it looks like to me. Yes, I've
seen a muzzle flash. I know what they look like.
And this, to me didn't look like a musloflash. It
just looks like a flash flash. But I've looked at

(04:41):
a lot of them, a lot of different videos, you know.
I mean there's the one where it's like, oh, well,
there's two people that you know, it looks like there's
two people up on that roof, and it's like, dude,
it's that dude's hands that went up in the air
because he was wanting to hatch one of the hats
that was getting thrown out, I mean, with a lot

(05:07):
of this stuff. And then then you know there's the
guy that touched his shoulder. Then oh he you know,
that was one of them small guns and that's what
he's using. Is like, dude, his hands are empty. What
are you talking about? You know, because these people they
they put him in slow motion and then they'll even
highlight or you know, draw a circle around the area

(05:28):
they want you to look at, and it's like, dude,
it it's not there's nothing there. His hands are empty.
It's like, oh, well, here's another angle. It's like, well, okay,
well what about the first angle you give there's nothing
and it doesn't look like there's anything in the second angle.
And then there's you know what about this guy that
was right next to him. It's like, wow, if he

(05:49):
did it, that would be amazing. And oh yeah, by
the way, there's no recoil. It's like the no y'alls
are ridiculous, right, I Mean, that's just kind of what
it boils down to. With a lot of the things
that I've seen out there, It's like, Okay, there's some that. Okay,
it looks a little suspicious, but at the same time,

(06:13):
not really. I mean not really. And I tell you what,
after looking at the thing and listening to several different
people talk about it that were, you know, some of
which that were in the crowd, and one person that was,

(06:36):
you know, part of the security detail. By all indication,
you know, especially talking about the security detail, these guys
acted admirable. Admirably, yeah, admirably. They did everything that they could,

(06:59):
even though it was pretty obvious that there really wasn't
anything they can do. And from the accounts that I've
listened to, you know, people that have a little bit
of knowledge about it basically has said that, you know,

(07:27):
and this is a small comfort, but that shot basically
killed them instantly. And I hope that's the case, I
really do. You know. I hope that, you know, Charlie
didn't suffer. I hope that it was pretty well instantaneous.
I mean, I would hate to think that in his

(07:48):
final moments he was in excruciating pain. You know. I
really hope that it was instant I really do. But
regardless of all of that, you know, there's a lot
of questions floating around, you know, about the shooter. There's

(08:08):
been a lot of stuff about the actions of some
people shortly and immediately after the assassination. And I'll tell
you what, a lot of this stuff really does hold
a lot of water, right, because it wasn't very long
after the assassination that you know, there were people trampling

(08:32):
all over the crime scene, right, And that didn't make
any sense to me. It really didn't. It's like, dude,
I mean, now, granted, I'm not a cop, I'm not
a lawyer. I'm not a judge. I don't play one
on TV, but I've watched enough in Cis criminal minds,

(08:52):
you know a lot of different procedural stuff, forensic files,
you know a lot of different things, and it's kind
of sop, you know, standard operating procedure that whenever somebody dies,
when somebody's assassinated, well you got to gather evidence, right,
you know. I mean there's things that you're looking at,

(09:13):
You're reviewing video tapes, a lot of different evidence. You know,
you do a lot of things, and it's like, none
of that really happened, and that to me just it
doesn't really make a lot of sense, you know, because

(09:35):
there's some things that you need to do, right, I mean,
you need to investigate, you need to figure things out,
you need to look at all of the video evidence.
You need to you know, scour the area to find
the bullet, you know, because that's the thing that's one
of my big things, right regardless of the this is

(09:56):
where the shooter is or this is where the shooter was,
what about this person? What about that person? I hete
here's one thing too, okay, because there's a lot of
no no, I'll get into that later. I'll get into
that later. But to me, that's one of the things

(10:18):
that really gave me pause was just looking at the
you know how quickly people were tearing down the tent,
the tables, getting rid of stuff, you know, I mean
it was almost and immediately after the fact, after you know,
Charlie Kirk was you know, taken to the hospital, that

(10:42):
they started tearing down the area and then the college.
And this to me again is what the hell Because
they started, you know, ripping up the concrete pavers, you know,

(11:04):
they were pouring foundation to do whatever. I mean, they
completely changed the landscape of the area. And that to
me is really suspicious, you know, I mean, that doesn't
make any sense to me. It's a crime scene, for
crying out loud, and it doesn't really seem as though

(11:25):
they allow for a lot of time to investigate the
crime scene. Intact, the college didn't waste any time changing
the landscape of the area where Charlie Kirk was located.
I mean, there's just a lot of things. It's like,
this doesn't really make a lot of sense. And one

(11:49):
of my biggest things is, and I can only assume
that they haven't, but where's the bullet? Right, where's the bullet?
They have a gun, a thirty out six rifle. Where's

(12:10):
the bullet? It was a shot through and through just
hit soft tissue. But even still, it would you know,
maybe well probably not fragment, probably stayed intact A bullet

(12:33):
like that generally does. But where's the bullet. I can
only assume, considering that it wasn't you know, blocked off
the you know, the crime scene wasn't preserved, that I
can only assume that they did find a bullet, because

(12:55):
that's the thing, that they didn't find a bullet, And
I haven't seen or read anything that would indicate that
they did find a bullet. I mean, that's something that
they're not releasing. They're not you know, given that information out.
But that's the thing, right, if you have a bullet,
I'm sorry, if you have a gun, you've got the
bullet hole, you would you know, you would know the

(13:18):
the basic trajectory of it. But and if you find
the bullet, then you know, that's one of the things
that ties the killer to the victim, because they've already
tied the assassin to the gun, right, DNA evidence, f

(13:41):
DNA fingerprint, the whole nine yards. They've already done that part.
But you still kind of got to connect another dot though.
I mean, there's another dot that's there. I mean, so
what if you, you know, put the the the killer
with the gun. That's not really all that hard to do.

(14:02):
But you still have to tie the gun to the victim.
And the only way to do that is with a bullet.
If you don't do that, you're missing a huge part
of the evidence that you need in order to get
a conviction. And I think we all can agree that
we want a conviction, but more so I want to
make sure we get the right guy, right. I mean,

(14:23):
isn't that what the goal is. It's not just to
you know, just convict anybody. I want it to be
the person that actually did the crime. But that's one
of the ways that you connect all the dots, tie
everything together real nice in a gorgeous looking, beautiful, big bow.

(14:48):
But it's really hard to do that if you don't
have a bullet. And I can only assume that they
did find the bullet. I mean, otherwise, why would the police,
Why would the FBI, local leos, why would law enforcement?
Why would they just open up the crime scene to

(15:12):
allow everybody to do what they did immediately after the fact.
It just doesn't make any sense to me. And another thing,
I would like to see is the camera that was
above and behind Charlie Kirk whenever that actually happened, because

(15:36):
there was a camera there. There's videos out there of
an individual part of the you know, part of the
Turning Port USA staff that you know, took the video
camera down right afterwards, and it looks like he even
stood on the chair that Charlie was sitting in, which
that to me is like, okay, whatever, that doesn't really

(15:57):
matter to me all that much. I mean, I know
there's a lot of people out there that are, you know,
up in arms about that, but that one doesn't bother
me quite as much. And it's because it's you know,
the chair that he was sitting in is irrelevant to
the to the crime scene. I guess you can say,
because you know he was shot in the neck, the

(16:20):
chair wouldn't have any evidence on it, So I mean, whatever, right,
I mean, it's not like that would be something you know,
behind him that may have caught the bullet. No, it's
the chair that he was sitting in. It's not like
it was hit with anything. It wouldn't have been hit
with any kind of shrapnel, a bullet fragment, nothing, So

(16:43):
I mean it's to me that is at least a
little irrelevant. It is what it is. Whatever it was there,
it was handy, he moved it, he stood on it
to take down the camera, and then he took the
SD card out of it. Now, according to what I
had read, and I don't remember exactly where I read
this from, but I did read it, it was on X.

(17:06):
I don't remember where the post came from, but it
was on X and they were questioning that very thing.
It's like, dude, you know, you basically see him taking
it down. You see a staffer that looks like they
took the SD card out of the camera. Where's that
SD card? Where's that footage? I would like to see
that footage because here's another thing too, because you know

(17:30):
they talk about, you know, the bullet possibly coming from
the crowd that was immediately in front of him. You know,
the shooter was there. Because of all these various people
that look like they're doing something suspicious, It's like, Okay,

(17:50):
where's the bullet because that would put all that crap
to rest. As far as where's the bullet where was
it recovered from? That would put the rest any you know,
any talk about where the shooter actually came from, you
would know, you'd be able to look at the trajectory
the whole nine yards, you know, where Charlie was sitting,

(18:11):
you know where the bullet was, then that'll tell you
where the shooter was, how far away he was, all
that other kind of good stuff. I mean, all those
type of questions could be answered by where's the bullet
right right? And I love some of the ones that
are like, oh, it was you know, from the side.

(18:32):
It's like, well, that doesn't really make a lot of
sense to me, because there were people standing to his side,
there were things there, right, Nobody else got hurt. We
didn't hear any reports of, you know, anybody else wounded
from the bullet. And you would think that if it
was coming from the back, if it was coming from

(18:55):
behind him, you know, if the shooter was back there,
then somebody in the crowd would have been hit. Nobody
in the crowd was hit. Nobody standing next to him
was hit. You know, one of the guys that they
say was the shooter wasn't even looking at Charlie. Whenever

(19:18):
the shot rang out and Charlie was hit. It's like, wow,
either you're completely wrong or that's the luckiest shot in
the world, right. I mean, that's why I say a
lot of these, you know, conspiracy theories that I'm hearing
just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. So I mean, here's
kind of my thing with a lot of these conspiracy theories.

(19:39):
You know, be mindful about what you read. I'm not
gonna say don't read it, but be mindful. You know.
Back in my day, going to school, they teach you
critical thinking, how to think for yourself.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
You know.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I was taught how to think, not what to think, right.
I mean, that's a big difference between you know, people
of my generation and older versus people that are younger
than me, you know. I mean I witnessed firsthand how
the education system went from how to think to what

(20:16):
to think. So, I mean I witnessed a lot of
that firsthand. It wasn't near as bad back then as
it is today, or at least in where I was at.
But they taught us critical thinking. They taught us how
to think, think for yourself, ask questions, don't take an

(20:39):
answer at its word. I mean, I had a teacher,
you know, and this guy was he was great. We
called him mister Bill. Mister Bill was not his name,
but we called him mister Bill. And you know, one
of the things, you know, it's like, you know they
say that snowflakes, you know, there's no two snowflakes or alike.

(21:01):
And his response was, how do you know? Have you
seen every snowflake? How do you know that no to
snowflakes are alike? I mean, that's one of the things
that they told you back in the day. And he's like,
how do you know? And he would teach you to

(21:22):
ask questions like it. For instance, you know, ice cubes
don't make any sense because we're taught that you know,
as something cools, it contracts, it gets smaller as something

(21:44):
cools it. You know, cold air, cold water, you know
that stuff sinks, right, And we're taught that hot as
it gets warmer, it expands and hot hot liquid it rises, right,
So why do ice cubes get bigger and flunked? Huh?

(22:12):
What we learn about thermo dynamics don't really hold true
to ice. So what in the world is going on?

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Right?

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I mean, that's one of the things that he did.
I mean, he would challenge us to think, ask questions,
critical thinking, and a lot of these things really don't
make any sense. A lot of the conspiracy theories that
I've seen, it's like that, no, you know, so I mean,
I'm not going to tell you not to entertain them,

(22:44):
you know, not to watch them, not to look into it,
because some of them they ask really good questions. Others
just like you're an idiot, right, Just be mindful of
what you watch, Be mindful of what you watch, what

(23:04):
you pay attention to. Where you get your information from.
That's a big thing too. Be careful of where you're
getting your information from. But there's a lot of conspiracy
theories out there, and it's like that type of stuff,
doesn't you know, there's a lot of them. It's like, no,
you're just you're wrong, you know, because even they're slowing

(23:28):
down the video to allow you to look at it
frame by frame, even that sometimes doesn't help. And a
lot of the times that I've seen is it actually
hurts them. You're slowing it down frame by frame, you're
zooming into it, and it's like, no, you're what you're

(23:49):
saying doesn't make any sense whatsoever, because I don't see
what you saw. It's not there, it's something else. This,
in fact, is what it is. But that I think
is my biggest question is where's the bullet? Where's the bullet?

(24:12):
Did you find the bullet?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Did?

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Where did you find the bullet? Because that right there
will put a lot of these conspiracy theories to rest.
I can understand if they don't want to release that.
I can understand if they don't, you know, want to
let the public. Well okay, I don't really understand why
they wouldn't want to at least say, hey, we found

(24:37):
the bullet. Where's the harm in that one? You know,
why would you be hiding that information? I can at
least understand if you don't want to say where you
found it. But at the same time, it's like, look,
we want to make sure that we got the right guy.
You've already let us know you found the gun. Were

(25:00):
you already know that you found fingerprints and DNA on
the gun? We already know that the gun ties directly
to the person that you're saying actually killed him. So
you already told us all that much. Why haven't you
told us that you found the bullet. This is where
you found the bullet, which lines up was where you're

(25:22):
saying the shooter was. And now you've tied the assassination.
You've tied the victim to the assassination and then to
the gun, matched it with rifling. There you go. Don't
you want people to know that you got the right guy?

(25:43):
Don't you want people to know that, hey, you know what,
we got this rest assured you don't have to worry
about it. We got them. Tie all the information together,
and one you can silence the people that are making
the conspiracy theories and you can let the public know

(26:05):
and reassure them that, yes, we got the right guy.
Innocent until proven guilty. However, here's the evidence that we have.
We've tied the bullet to the gun. We've tied the
gun to well, okay, we tied the bullet through the

(26:27):
victim to the gun, and we tied the gun to
the killer. And that's the guy that we arrested. We
got this. And the other thing that I would like
to see is you know that video that camera angle,

(26:47):
because you know, according to some of the conspiracy theorists
out there that you know that are claiming that the
the killer was actually in the crowd right there. Then
all right, well show us a different camera angle. You
got the camera angle, right, I mean, you have it.
The SD card was removed and passed on to somebody else.

(27:08):
So you have it, where is it? Let the people see?
I mean, we've we've been seeing everything else. Why can't
Why won't they show that one? It just makes you wonder.

(27:35):
It just didn't didn't make any sense to me that
basically immediately after they removed Charlie from the crime scene,
that they started tearing everything down. I mean, I don't
recall seeing anything about crime scene investigators that were there

(27:58):
after the fact actual investigating the crime. I don't recall
seeing anything. I mean, there's a video of a person
in the crime scene that was doing stuff that a
lot of people question as to what the hell are
you doing? Why wasn't the area taped off and secured?

(28:22):
I mean, honestly, I mean that really to me, it
just does not make any sense whatsoever. Why would why
it didn't really look like they did anything investigating the
crime scene. I mean, unless you're going to tell me

(28:43):
that immediately upon showing up, without having to spend hardly
anytime whatsoever looking for it, they found it. They found
the bullet, they found everything that we're looking for. Unless
you can actually tell me that they found it like
that that quick immediately upon police showing up at the
scene of the crime, unless you're going to tell me

(29:06):
that nothing else makes any sense whatsoever, because I mean, really,
after you find the bullet, there really isn't any need whatsoever.
I mean, you know, you can spend you know, you
find the bullet, you do the trajectory on it. Okay,
he came from you know, the bullet was shot from
this direction, from this elevation. Okay, cool, Now we know

(29:28):
and granted you really wouldn't think that that would take
much time. Granted you know, five minutes after after you
find the bullet. Okay, cool, But we don't even know, right,
we don't know it just it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Now.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I want to move on from this because you know,
I think I've pretty well beat that one down. But
like I said, I mean, there's a lot of information
out there, and I really want you to be mindful
about where you're getting the inform from and think for yourself.
Ask questions. Don't just take somebody's word for it. Ask questions.

(30:10):
There's nothing wrong with asking questions, nothing at all, nothing
wrong with that. Be mindful, though, I want to go
ahead and take a quick break, and whenever I return,
we're going to be talking about the Tyler Robinson. We're
going to be talking about him, because there's some stuff

(30:33):
that is out there that I'm going to be honest
with you. It doesn't really pass to sniff test with me.
It really doesn't. There's a lot of things missing that
even though the transcript of a particular conversation was released,
I don't see some critical information in there, and a

(30:56):
lot of it just looks kind of suspicious. Right, So
we'll get into that right after this.

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(32:26):
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(35:07):
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I was saying in the last segment, you know, just
be mindful of the place that you're getting information. Be
mindful about it. Now there is one that I kind
of do put some weight behind because well, it doesn't

(35:29):
make any sense because whenever they released the transcript of
the conversation between Tyler and his quote unquote roommate, his
transgender roommate, which wasn't just a transgender room mate. That
was his boyfriend. I'll call him boyfriend because he was

(35:54):
X Y chromosomes, he had a penis. That's a boyfriend.
I don't care if he's transitioning. It's boyfriend. But the
conversation to me, at least what they released, I got
a lot of questions, I really do, one of which

(36:20):
is nowhere in the transcript. Does it give Dayton time
stamps of when the messages were sent or received? Now,
I've heard that these messages were text messages. I've also
heard that these messages were out of a discord chat.
But either way, you know, I've been on Discord, and

(36:44):
you know I've used text messages. I've sent and received
text messages, and you know, every single one of them
have Dayton timestamps. I think that would actually be kind
of important to have Dayton timestamp is not really enough
that you're telling me what was said. It would kind
of be nice to know when it was said, what

(37:05):
time it was said. It would actually kind of shine
some light over, you know, give you a nice timeline
of when things happened, when it took place. Kind of
give a little bit more context, if you will. But
one of the things that doesn't really make any sense
to me is all the information that was in there,

(37:27):
because that conversation between Tyler and his lover is a
prosecutor's wet dream because in there you've got motive, You've

(37:49):
got evidence of premeditation, because he says that he, you know,
had been planning this for a week.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
The motive is he he was angry at Charlie Kirk
for some of the things that he has said. You've
got you know, he's tying himself to the gun. He
wrapped it in a towel and he hid it in
a bush. This is where he's located at now.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
He was in Orum.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
He wasn't you know. He he changed his clothes right
there at the bush where he you know, discarded the
gun and hit it, so he wouldn't be caught with
it on him, and to you know, change his appearance
so that this way he wouldn't look the same, be
wearing the same clothes as he was when he fired

(38:43):
the shot. There's the oh, hey, you know, my dad
is you know calling me right now? The gun belonged
to my father or my grandfather and he's asking about it.

(39:08):
There's only one person over there at the moment, but
I don't think they've found it, you know, Like I said,
I mean, this whole entire conversation between the two is
a prosecutor's wet dream because everything you could ever want

(39:29):
it's right there. To me, it just seemed all too convenient,
just seemed all too convenient. You know, his motivation, the
fact that it was premeditated. He wrapped a gun and
a towel, put it in a bush, changed his clothes,

(39:57):
all that stuff. He even explained that he engraved the
bullets with different sayings. The whole nine yards his dad's
maga everything prosecutors what dream?

Speaker 2 (40:18):
And here's.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
This is one of the reasons why the whole thing
seems fishy, because it's like, if they truly was roommates,
you know, if they lived together as they did, a
lot of this would have been conversational. They would have
already known a lot of this stuff. I mean, why
would you reiterate to the roommate as if it was

(40:46):
the first time you're having this conversation that you know
that your dad is maga and has been ever since
Trump was first elected you would already know that there
wouldn't be a reason to say that again or say
it like you said it for the first time. You
would know, remember when I was engraving the bullets this

(41:18):
is you know, yeah, that was me, and you know
the lover had no idea, well you mean that he
just you know, opened the door seeing that you were
engraving something, you know, using your drimble or whatever it
was that you used, and no questions were asked, no

(41:41):
conversation was had. It just opened the door seeing what
your boyfriend was doing, and then you know, maybe said hi, hey,
are you coming to bed soon? Whatever, and then turned
around and left. You know, know, what do you do?
Why are you doing that? No other conversation, just to hey,

(42:05):
dinner's ready, it's time to go to bed. Hey, we
gotta go do whatever it is we gotta do. Let's
go shopping something, you know. I mean, it's just it's
way too convenient. Right now, I'm not saying that I
think that it was you know, falsified as in, you know,

(42:31):
evidence that was planted. I don't think that whatsoever. What
I think this entire thing wait, no, hold on, before
I get into that. The other thing in this entire
conversation and exchange is that it really doesn't sound like

(42:52):
it was coming from some coming from people that were
in their early twenties. You know, this isn't lingo that
you would expect to see from a twenty two year old.

(43:13):
I mean, I've read messages from twenty two year olds.
I mean, they have their own freaking language whenever it
comes to you know, a shorthand stuff. You know, you
got you know, you got a lot of shorthand in there.
Sometimes it's it's hard to decipher what the hell it
is that they're talking about. You gotta ask, you know,

(43:34):
you got to google. What does rotfl ol? What the
hell does that mean? What does this mean? What does
that mean? I mean they use shorthand, you know they
I've never heard somebody that was twenty two years of
age refer to their dad as their old man. There's

(44:01):
other language in there that this really doesn't sound like
a twenty two year old. And like I said, this
entire conversation, this entire exchange is way too convenient and
is a prosecutor's wet dream. So I asked myself, why

(44:29):
why could they have done that? And at that particular
point in time whenever I read this, and really even now,
I have no reason to believe that the guy didn't
do it. I have no reason to believe that he didn't.
But what this very much looks like to me is

(44:52):
a fabricated message exchange between the two in order to
give the lover the roommate, plausible deniability on what the
killer did. That to me makes way more sense than
anything else. A page right out of Breaking Bad, so

(45:14):
I have been told, because that's apparently with something that
he did in that you know, in that TV series.
I didn't watch the TV series. I just I haven't
I know whatever. I just I've never seen it, or
at least not that far into it. I'm not that
far into it. But that to me seems like a

(45:36):
very good plausible explanation as to why all that information
was in there, a smokescreen to give plausible deniability to
the roommate that he was completely oblivious to what happened. Now,
I've also heard a lot of people talk that, you know,
he had to have had somebody in the audience, because

(46:01):
you know, the conversation, the question that was asked to
Charlie at the moment he was shot and well, I
don't really buy that one either. I mean, that's not
to say that there wasn't anybody in the crowd just
kind of keeping an eye out, you know, maybe somebody

(46:23):
that had radio communication with him, or was on the
cell phone with him or something. Okay, but you know
that kind of you know, why would they have that,
Why would that be necessary? Because I'll tell you what.
There were, you know, microphones there. You know, the person
asking the question had a microphone, Charlie Kirk had a microphone,

(46:46):
and of which case, there were speakers that were there
so that this way the audience that was in attendance
could hear the exchange hear what was going on relatively loud.
I am sure. Now where I live, I am about

(47:08):
half a mile away as as the crow flies, or
at least at at least half a mile away from
the high school. And that is about roughly eight hundred
and eighty yards, So I'm, you know, just shy of

(47:28):
nine hundred yards away from the high school. Okay. They
have football games out there outside on the other side
of the high school. There you go, and during these
football games, I can just open up the door, go
outside on my porch and I can hear the announcer,

(47:53):
I can't necessarily hear him clearly. I mean sometimes I
can catch a word here there. I can't necessarily hear
him clearly enough. But that's you know, eight hundred and
eighty to nine hundred yards away, with a lot of obstruction,

(48:16):
you know, buildings in the way, one of which being
the high school itself is in the way. I can
still hear it eight hundred and fifty to nine hundred
yards away. I can still hear it. Now, the shooter,
according to the information that we have right now, was

(48:37):
between one hundred and fifty and two hundred yards away.
He wouldn't need somebody in the audience to tell him
what was being spoken about, what was you know, the
question that was being asked, and tell him that now
would be a good ironic time to pull the trigger.

(48:58):
Wouldn't need to say that, because the killer would know,
he would have heard it with his own ears. It
wouldn't be necessary, right, So, I mean, I really don't
believe that's even a thing. I mean, I really don't.

(49:18):
It wouldn't be necessary. Like I said, it wouldn't be necessary.
But I still want to know where was the boyfriend?
Where was he was he there? Have you triangulated his location?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
You know?

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Was he a spotter of some sorts? Was he helping
in some way? That stuff that I really would like
to know. I mean, was he at home? And you've
been able to triangulate his location based off of where
his cell phone was?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
You know?

Speaker 3 (49:56):
I mean, those are the things that I would actually
like to know, and of which game? You know? The
time stamps of that conversation would also help a lot.
And I know that those time stamps and date stamps
are available as part of the conversation. Regardless of whether
this was a message exchange, whether even it was email,

(50:18):
whether it was text message or you know, part of
a discord conversation, it's still going to be Dayton time stamped.
Regardless of where the conversation was, it's still going to
be Dayton timestamped. I would like to know where the
lover was, what did he know? Where? Did you know? When?

(50:41):
Did he know it? That conversation just seems way too
convenient for me, a prosecutor's wet dream. And like I said,
I mean, I to me, it makes more sense that
it was plausible deniability. The boyfriend didn't have anything to
do with it, No need to investigate him any further.

(51:03):
Do you have the message exchanged between the two. It's
clear in that message that he had no idea what
was going on. Clueless oblivious. There you go. And I
have a hard time believing that he had no idea,
that he was clueless, I really do. I got a

(51:26):
hard time believing that there would have been signs, warning
signs now apparently, and this is information that I received
from a an interview that Dan Bongino was doing with

(51:48):
somebody I don't remember who, when he was talking about
this very topic right here, and the conversation kind of
amounted to do you think there were other people involved?
Did he have help in some way, shape or form?
You know, what are you looking into at this particular
point in time. And one of the things that Dan

(52:09):
Bongino responded with was that, well, we haven't ruled that out,
because we do know that there are organizations basically to
weaponize the Rainbow community, and we are looking into that.

(52:41):
There is even information posts that were made, DMS, measures boards,
what have you, that do indicate that the killer let
that information out as far as what he intended to do,
even messages to say hey, you might want to be

(53:02):
watching over at UVU on this day with Charlie Kirk.
Not really a time that I recall, but you know
that was in there. So the FBI at least is
looking into that possibility that there is an underground network

(53:23):
that in some way, shape or form may have helped.
We already know that there are these fringe groups that exist,
and he did name one of them by name, so
I mean, yeah, there is that possibility. So I want

(53:50):
to reiterate, you know, I don't believe that the entire
thing was faked, because there are some people out there
that are claiming that the whole thing is faked. You
know that it was a plan. You know, they did
it in order to you know, like you know the
conspiracy theories around the JFK assassination that Lee Harvey Oswald
was just a patsy and this was just to seal

(54:13):
the deal. And of which case, yeah, okay, fine, have
that belief. I guess ain't nobody going to stop you.
And if that was the case, I mean, you would
think that somebody would have taken out Tyler Robinson already

(54:34):
if that was the case, because I really don't think
that this was a you know, I don't think that
Israel had anything to do with it. That statement just
doesn't seem to hold water with me. Those are some
of the conspiracy theories that are out there. I don't

(54:57):
think they did. There's no evidence to show that they did.
I don't really think this was a clandestined operation or
a red flag event. There's enough hatred out there anyway,
they wouldn't really need that, right, So I don't think
that went either. I don't think it was a plant.

(55:22):
I don't think it was fabricated information in order to
produce a red flag event or to point law enforcement
in a place where it shouldn't actually be. But that's
but I do believe that it was fabricated. This doesn't

(55:44):
sound like a twenty two year old whatsoever. And the
whole thing just is way too convenient to have all
the information in there that you would need to seal
the deal and get a conviction. But what I do think,

(56:06):
and this is one of the reasons why a time
and date stamp would be so important to have in here,
because as the night progressed, and as the information was released,

(56:26):
and as he kind of maybe figured out that, you know,
maybe I'm not going to get away with this. I
need to give the person I love some plausible deniability
that would make way more sense. But as it stands,

(56:49):
just looking at the transcript, it doesn't make any sense
to me. Whatsoever have you read it? Let me know
down in the comments below. If you are listening over
on Spireaker, if you are watching over on Rumble, if
you've seen that transcript, if you've seen that conversation between

(57:10):
Tyler Robinson and his lover, his boyfriend, his roommate, let
me know. Let me know down in the comments. Send
me an email, ho Ho at the ho Ho show
dot com. What do you think? What type of things
have you heard regarding a second shooter, regarding who the
shooter was, where he was located. What do you think?

(57:33):
Let me know? Send me an email ho Ho at
the ho Ho show dot com. But I think it
was simply put. Tyler knew he was caught, it was
only a matter of time, and he was doing what
he could in order to give his boyfriend his roommate

(57:55):
plausible deniability. That to me makes more sense than anything
else I've heard, any other explanation, any other theory. This one,
to me seems to hold more water, just saying just
don't out out there a lot of these other things.
I don't know, I don't know. Bottom line, be mindful

(58:25):
about where you get your information, keep your head on,
learn to think for yourself. Critical thinking is a it's

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