The HollingsWorthless Program Ep. 287

Tyler is in the crosshairs of incorrect "cancel culture" and Jay gets to relive youth as a young white boy.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
What do you want to say something about your show?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I shot on myself in the womb.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Stop Phil, you fucking stink.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
You know what? Fuck this.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Because it's haullings worth but it's worth less.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I don't want to hear about whatever you have to say.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
The worstless of the week. He's just gonna sit up
there the whole time, Phil Fox Scorpion. It's a move, man,
You fucking dummy. What the fuck hows of race and
black people?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Shoot?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Shoot me now? Oh? What's up? Everybody? Welcome to the
Hallings with this program and one of your hosts, Big
Irish Day Hallings. Within as usual, we ah the Hulagoons,
the goon Squad, the usual suspects, Three of a kind, trips,
three men, no baby shut out to Baby Miles, three Musketeers,

(01:00):
the three of those threes company No mister Fairley starting
with you've seen him on Amazon Prime. He's the host
with the most part time famous, full time Penny Carlos
and Tony. What's happening? Why can't I hear you? You
can't hear me? Oh No, I can't hear you. What
has happened? Why can't I hear you? Tyler? Can you

(01:23):
hear Carlos. Yeah, yeah, can you hear me? Yeah? Okay,
well okay, let's get Tyler and then I'll try and
figure my shit out. Ah. He put the he took
the D out of DEI. He's de White. We call
him the one box checker murderer. He is now very canceled.

(01:45):
Well right, he's not very the Hey, I'm not racist,
don't Tyler, don't call me Joseph Smith. What app Let
me try and see. I had the music was playing
and everything I heard everything me. Fuck, I did change

(02:05):
my ship in the middle of this, Like test, I'm
gonna exit and come right back. I'll be right back ship.
Here we go again.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Again this week. Welcome back to the Tyler and Carlos Show.
Two weeks in a row.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'm sorry to think this is a tree in now,
because I'm like, how can everybody get here?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Welcome?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Welcome everyone. We're all chatting before we went live.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Can you hear me now? I can hear you? Can
you hear me? Yeah? We can hear you? Guys? What's
going on? I changed this, uh, this thing out in
the middle one our intro song was playing, so that
must have sucked it up. I don't know, but we're back.
We are that Yeah, and uh, I'm I'm well rested,

(03:05):
so my energy is sucking up. I've gotten a lot
of ship done today. And uh pretty excited because Tyler
told me a little bit or ship. Were you guys
in the middle of anything.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I just think we were talking about you and how
you thought you this was this is gonna be the
second week that you escaped on us and just left
it to us.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
This trick on us again.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Right, What an interesting choice of words.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Escape Now that I got you guys here, hold on.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Exactly, all right, you guys talk amongst yourself.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
So later that's how I host parties.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Like, if I get like anxiety at my own party,
I'll just be like, all right, you guys talk and
then I'll just go to I'll just go like hang
on the balcony.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Irish could bye your own place? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah a few times? Uh.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
And and Carlos saying escape usually escape is a term
you use if you want to get out of a place. Huh, yeah, yeah,
you get it. What up, Felicia, Alicia? What's going on?
So Tyler has Uh? I mean, Carlos and I like

(04:21):
going on the together all the time. We we usually
have like pretty interesting stories from from like some of
the comics that we've worked with. But Tyler set the set,
the whole thing, talk about the show and how you
do it. And you got to hear this, Carlos.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's such a different experience being a producer comic, you know,
because like I'm making the show on top of you know,
performing and all that ship. But anyways, a little bit
of a different experience. But and this is like the
problem that I got to deal with. These are the

(05:02):
problems that I got to deal with. So I got
to do my show in minneapoliss last week, and first
time ever going out there, so I don't know anybody.
And the whole reason why this show got set up
was because a guy I knew from Portland who I
did some shows with, came up. He did some shows

(05:22):
with me. Here we have a relationship. You think, I
think we've done like four or five shows together. He
sent me or he ended up moving to Minnesota a
couple of years ago and then randomly hit me up
like six months ago telling me that he has like
he's like I want to work with you. I want
to get your show in a venue and maybe I
can like be on it as well, you know, like

(05:45):
let me help you book your show so I can
get booked basically type of thing. And I'm like, totally
fine if you want to help me out, like you know,
if you get my show somewhere, man, I'll give you
a little bonus. Like I appreciate that. Like that's above
and beyond what people do, so I really appreciate it.
So he goes to work, finds me a venue and

(06:06):
gives me a great deal. I don't want to share
what the deal is, but he gave me a great deal,
and I would say he saved me like a good
chunk of money. So I'm just gonna say that on
the side. So I reach out to my friend. Now
that we have a venue, I'm like, all right, well

(06:27):
I'll start booking the show and then we'll like get
the ads up. Everything will start moving emotion. So I
reach out to my homie. Sasha Rosser, a comedian lady
comic from Madison, Wisconson. She's been on my other podcast.
She's hilarious, very.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I did the Dope Show with her in Seattle, right.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Or exactly, yeah, very funny. Lady reached out to her
because it's like I think, like I think she was
only like an hour away from there, you know, so
I'm like, I don't know, I think I think that's
a fine drive. It's pretty flat. So offered her the
gig offered her one hundred and fifty dollars for a

(07:10):
four pm headlining spot airing it out there. We'll get
to why normally I would never just oldly stay out
much time to paying somebody.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well, also you should. You should also clarify for I
guess comics and non comics. When somebody headlines a show,
like if you're doing a show at a club or whatever,
headliner usually a show is set up where you have
an opener, well, hosts will usually do about maybe ten minutes.
Then you have a if they have a guest spot,

(07:44):
a guest spot might do seven minutes, but there's not
always guest spots. The middle person the feature usually does
about twenty between twenty and thirty minutes, and the headliner
is usually doing about forty five minutes minimum. And so
so when you say you're having her headliner your show,
though it's not forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Just just no, when I say headliner, it just means
the person who's closing out my show, right, because it's
a showcase. It's not a comedy Like, it's not a
comedy show where you're going to see any of these people.
You're going to the Dope Show, which is a showcase, and.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
They're and they're and just so everybody knows, the headliner
on the Dope Show or the person closing out the
show is usually doing about they do what five minutes
up front and then ten minutes on the second set it's.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Like ten and five. It depends. It depends which is
around man, it honestly, it depends on where I am. Like,
the lineup's usually not the same. If I only have
like two three people on the show, like they'll do
a lot more time. But if I have four people
on the show, they're probably only going to do ten
and five.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Gotcha.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
So fifteen minutes total is what we get to fifteen
fifteen minutes max a person that's closing out the show.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, so you're getting ten dollars a minute, right, which
is a solid deal. I think that's a solid deal anyways.
So and that's like, and that, by the way, these
rates change. If I'm asking somebody to promote the show.
If I don't ask anything from you, it's just a

(09:24):
flat rate. And you know that's like a little behind
the scenes in case anybody who's watching this is trying
to be a producer. So my homie Sasha can't make
the show. She's like, I'm busy that day, sorry, And
I'm like, well, can you recommend me some comics? I
need a headliner, and then I need like some openers.

(09:46):
So she gives me three names for headliners and then
seven names for openers. I reach out to the other
guy who's helping me with produce the show, and I go, hey,
can you send me a list too, because like my
go to wasn't available, so just give me a list
to your headliners and your openers. He sent me a list.

(10:09):
She sent me a list, and of those headliners, there
was a match, like somebody was on both lists. And
then I reached out to somebody who was an opener
and I started sending out like opener offers, and the
first one couldn't make it, but was very friendly. So
I asked them like, hey, who do you recommend in
the neighborhood, And then they sent me a list too,
and the headliner list had the same name on the

(10:32):
other two lists, so that name. I'm like, this guy
must be really funny because he's on all three of
these lists, and like one of them was like this
guy specifically. So I'm like, all right, that guy seems
like he's fucking he's the Bee's knees. So I want
him on my show. So offer sent him an offer.

(10:55):
I sent him actually two offers, one through his professional website,
which he didn't and sir, and then I'm like, why
have a professional website if you're not going to fucking
use it slid into his DM's answer right away. Anyways,
gave him an offer. I offered him one hundred and
twenty five bucks to headline the show. And then, uh,

(11:18):
I get two more I get some more names on
that list, and I started going down. I send out
the offers, and I think I just picked two random ones.
And I sent him out and it happened to be
this guy named Ebenezer Modasa, who's a black man. Not
that I would point that out, not that I think
it's important, but apparently it is important in this story.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
It comes over a scrooge but sounds.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I said the same joke, and it was. It didn't
go well with him anyway. And then uh, I got
a lady comic named Pearla Rose. And then I got
the headliner that was on All three late to instant Ley.
She's white parlel parlels Old. Yeah. So anyways, I'm like,

(12:16):
those people were recommended to be on the opening list.
I gave them offers for seventy five bucks to do.
I didn't even tell any of these people how much
they're getting, how much time they're doing. I just said like, hey,
will you be on the show for seventy five bucks?
And they were like sweet, got them on the show.
The show happens, I'm at the venue and like, actually wait,

(12:37):
wait wait sorry. A week leading up to the show,
I'm going over my email and I'm getting ready to
send out the message with like hey, I got you
on this weekend. Can reconfirm one more time and then
here are your times. And then before I do that,
I look over my emails with a venue and they're
like super strict on that we have to get out
of there by six pm because the show's at four.

(13:01):
So I'm like, all right, normally I do ninety minutes.
I'm gonna do like a seventy minute show. And they
also wanted it an intermission too, by the way, so
we need an intermission so they can get extra drinks
and we need like a heart out. And I'm like, fine,
hold on, Felicia Alicia Van what a week? Anyways? So

(13:29):
I uh uh wellere was I I was putting, I
was putting together the list, and then the.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Time got cut. It's not a ninety minute show, seventy minutes.
And they want to intermission.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
They want an intermission, So everybody's getting ten minutes with
ten intermission and then we're doing five minutes at the end.
That's about seventy minutes. You see any problems going into
this so far? Thank you, thank you so much. Oh

(14:01):
show happens. Uh it's I tell everybody in the in
the message I send out, please get there by three
forty five to check in with me, and then I
send them the times that they're doing and like the
call times, and we're now it's three forty five and like,
all three of these comics that I hire from Minnesota

(14:23):
are late, all three of them super fucking rude. I
really hate that. Not to throw them under the bus,
but left a bad taste in my mouth, all three
of them. I fucking uh.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
What's funny, Tyler? What's funny is at the time you thought, well,
this is probably the worst part of this show.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Oh my god. Yeah, I'm like, this is like the
most stressful part. This is probably the worst thing that's
going to happen. Now are going to show up.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
So.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I uh. The first one of the first guys that
shows up is the guy that helped me get the show. There.
He's showed up an hour before the show, so he's
already there. And then he comes up to me and
he goes, hey, man, like, I really appreciate the time,
but I'm not like comfortable doing ten and five. Is
it okay if I do a little less time, because

(15:15):
he's like, I don't do enough comedy, Like I'm not
out there a lot, and that's why I'm asking you
to help me books so I can do some fucking time.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I respect it, first of all. I respect that respect that.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I really respect it because I had him going third
and I'm like, okay, well i'll have you go second
and I'll give you five minutes. So then it's not
it's just like it won't want interrupt the flow that much.
And uh. Also, the night before when I hand out
the call times, James, the headliner, reached out to me

(15:49):
and asked me if he could switch spots, and I
asked him why, and he goes because some reason, and
I'm like, uh no, I had I'm hiring you crescendo
my show. You're going last. That's what I want. You like,
I need you to go last, Like that's what I want.
That's why you're going last, is like, this is the

(16:10):
arc of the show. You will crescendo because I heard
you're the funniest. It's so hard to tell a story
when you're fucking around. So I where am I at.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I'm at closing out the show. That asked you if
he could go.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
And I'm like, no, we're not going to switch spots.
I've heard you're the funniest. I'm hiring you to close
out my show. That's why you're here. So he fucking
He's like okay, fine.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Then we're at the show. Everybody's late, which is fine.
They I message everybody. They all message me. We're looking
for parking. I'm like, okay, at least they're here. They
get there, we do the show, show's fun, decent show.
We had a good we I sold it out. I
sold it out. I want to point that out. Looking

(17:07):
over everybody's profiles, nobody posted that they were doing the show.
Not a single post nobody. So I sold it out.
They get we finished the show. I tell them, Hey,
I'm gonna be doing merch. So if you need to leave,
go ahead and leave. I'll pay you. Guys on cash

(17:28):
app or Venmo. Just let me know and I'll pay
you after the show. He sends. So then the show's done,
everything's done. I get back to my hotel room. I
start sending out the pay and I send out a
message going, hey, I just paid you, thank you for
being on the show. I really appreciate it. Second person, Hey,
thank you for being on the show. Here's a pay.
Thank you for being on the show. Here's your pay.

(17:49):
And then I get a message from everybody, and one person,
Pearl messages me thanks for having me on the show.
It was fun. And then I get the message Pearl
accepts your payment. And then I got a message from Pearl,
Hey just wanted you to know that paying a black
man and a woman less than the white man for
all of us doing the same times is really bad optics.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Tyler can't get away. It's always somehow.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Dude fucking shoot me in the head. I'm like, uh,
I try and handle this as delicately as possible, because
as soon as I get that message, I'm like, oh,
this is a victim, and I need to treat her
as one because she's about to She's probably having a
meltdown right now, so I'm like, hey, how does she

(18:51):
know though?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
How does she know this?

Speaker 1 (18:53):
I guess they were all in cahoots, Carlos. They were
all talking to each.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Other, which is weird because I'm not talking and let's
be cool like that.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'm not talking to anybody else about what I make
on a show.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I guess they're cool like that. So these guys are
all buddy buddy okay, instantly tell each other.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Can I ask some questions as we were going through this, Tyler?
Or are you gonna be like, oh jeez, I can't
remember where I'm at all? Right?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Are are?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Are I sound like a pirate in your dress? Put
it out the lady that sent that? Are the comic?

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Is she new? Or do you know?

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I don't think? I mean, she's got like three thousand followers,
so I would imagine she's been around for a few years.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Okay, So for the people in the chat, and if
you're listening to this in comedy, uh just okay, I'll
use an analogy. Okay, So if you have the sixth man,
uh well, we'll use the Celtics because I'm a Celtics
and Peyton Pritchard he's probably gonna get six Man a
year award right now. Yeah, that's okay, you can hate

(20:01):
on it. And then you have Jason Tatum, who's the
starter and the star, and or what would be like
the headliner. You know, maybe maybe Tatum and Pritchard play
the exact same amount of minutes in a game, but
Tatum is the star and he gets paid more. The

(20:24):
headliner is always going to be getting paid more than
the features or the guest spot's guest spots don't get paid,
or the host. So I would have just responded, Yeah,
that white man that you're pointing out as white is

(20:45):
the headliner.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I dude, I should have been just more bold like it,
but I was like, whoa, I get through your like
a broken lens. This could look in a very bad light,
but that's now. It happened. He was the headliner, and
you guys got opener pay. That's all that happened. And
then she's like, well, how come that other white guy
got more money than all of us? And I'm like,
because he was the producer, Because he was the producer,

(21:10):
he got me into dead.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
There's a lot of conversations going on.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I know, I'm like, why is that guy even telling
you how much I'm paying him, because that should be like,
I mean, you know what, fuck I paid him two
hundred and twenty five dollars. If anybody in a fucking
city wants to bring the dope show out and do
five minutes on it, you can, fucking I'll pay you
a quarter of a bill. I don't know anyways. So

(21:36):
she's like, I'm like, that's not what happened. Like, I
just he got producer pay, he got head lighter pay.
You guys got opener pay, and that's what happened. Like
I'm so sorry if that's what you interpreted, that's not
what it happened. And I'm like, got it, Oh.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
You thought you were done.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I'm like, there we go. The explanation has been sent.
Like that's guy fted that up.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
That was buckle up, Carlos.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
That was embarrassing. Hopefully she's a reasonable rational person who
could see that headliners get paid more than openers, regardless
of the fucking stage time.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It was.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I'm like trying to like, even if he did the
same amount, if one of you dropped, he would be
able to fill it, you know, like there's a fucking
reason why he's the fucking headlighter.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah. And also also you would just on the fly.
I mean, shit, Carlos and I when we're doing oh
you got are you raising your hand? Carlos, I was
about to sight something.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
I almost see if you say to say what I
was about to say, anyway, you.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Would just on the fly. So, like, you know, we
we do LA comedy clubs like our home club here
in Vegas, Carlos and I's and so you know, you
may the features usually do about seventeen minutes, and the
headliner usually does like thirty thirty ish, But if you
have spots and everything, uh, you know, or if somebody

(23:04):
goes long or whatever, your time might be cut down.
I might end up being doing the same time as
the feature. But uh, I'm the head, I'm the closing,
I'm closing it out. I'm the fucking I'm not going
to say that they're there to see me because I'm
not a draw.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
And here's the other piece of that too, is what
I was going to say is is that time was
what had it not been a time crunch, then the
times he would have he would have done more time.
So it was because of the time constrained that there
was another issue that they don't have to know about.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's noney of business exactly. That's what I was just
going to ask you, Carlos, because Carlos used to produce
a show, yes, and I was I was going to
ask Carlos, if you got some type of email questioning
all this ship, how would you have responded? How to
cust up motherfucking ass out?

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Because her if I want to go ahead, I finished,
and so because I don't want to cut it all
before I have to leave, So go ahead.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh we'll get back to that.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
So here I am I give a very reasonable explanation.
Everybody understands this. That's just pay. That's headliner pay, that's
producer pay. This is common knowledge. Openers make the least amount,
features make more, headliners make more, producers make more than everybody,
and then venues make more than everybody else. So like

(24:27):
there's like this huge hierarchy in who's getting paid per show,
and it has a lot to do with like you
know how much and whatever you're contributing. So I thought,
I need a show.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
You give money. You didn't even promote the show.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Dude, And fifteen minutes late, you're fifteen minutes late to
a fifteen minute spot. Bro, Like, you wouldn't want to
be fifteen minutes late to an eight hour shift, let
alone a fifteen minute spot, and then to throw this
shade on me. And I'm like, so I send out

(25:05):
that explanation and she's like, she keeps going like that's
not what this is. This is not what it looks like.
You need to make it right, And then I just like,
all right now, I'm just I just mute, mute. I
gave you my explanation. Nothing I say is going to
change this person's mind. Now she's going off. My inbox

(25:28):
is blowing up message after message, all this shit. Sheety
takes the photo that I sent of her on stage
at my show and posted on her stories, says great
time at the Dope show. Too bad. This is how
they pay and then puts white man one twenty five,
white man one hundred, black man seventy five, woman seventy five,

(25:52):
and then all the times, And I'm like, excellent. I'm
just waiting now for them, waiting for the war, like
the backlash. I'm just waiting for those comments. And like
I start seeing notifications now on my Instagram and I'm like,
oh god, here comes one. Somebody blows up one of

(26:13):
my posts, write something nasty, delete block. Then I get
a couple more notifications. Uh, and these ones are just
likes on my post new follow and they are just
white male comics from Minnesota. But we want to work

(26:38):
with them.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
You're gonna you're gonna have a big pool to choose
from next time you go to Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I was like, this is not I mean, like, this
is not what I want either. I don't want this either.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
That's so funny. You should have you should have replied
to her and go, do you know that I was
under the pression that I was black for like three months?
You're speaking to someone that thought he was black.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Did you just assume all the genders of everybody on
the show?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
She said, Oh, I didn't know the headliner was white,
and I didn't know. I don't know how you identify.
I just I'm just paying a headliner. Here's my thing,
who doesn't.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Have anything better to do with her time, nor does
she really Now I'm questioning her followers because you don't.
You can't be in this business in any length of
time and not know that that's the way it works.
It doesn't doesn't. You can't play that card. And crazy
said it just a minute ago. You puted a black
car to the woman card on this is absolutely insane.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
It's insane. Yeah, and i'm as a black man, yeah
I'm black. Yeah, as a black man, uh, just as
a white guy like to say that, I think you
were fine.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I've always valued your producer.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I mean, I remember when you've had black people headline
and you still pay me more. So I appreciate that.
I'm joking. I'm joking. That's a joke. I'm not trying
to get you in more shit. But what I'm curious, Yeah,
I question how long she's been doing comedy and then
also did nobody. I'm sure you probably didn't follow up
on any of these posts, but I would think would

(28:29):
the Minnesota comedy community be like well that's the headliner.
The headliner is getting paid more.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
So I don't under I mean that's from her post.
I mean she designed it to make it look like off,
I'm a racist, sexist asshole, and I'm like, anybody who
sees that who is not involved in comedy is going
to be like, that's fucked up. It's gonna be It's
it's virtue signaling. It's fucking at its finest. Bro It's

(28:57):
like way to tweak out craft such a like. Honestly,
if you're looking at it, it's just a diverse show
that you are twisting it into this nasty thing, which was.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
So positive thing about that controversy creates the interest. So
now people when they see that, they're, like you said,
they're gonna they're gonna come to your page to figure
out who you are. And some people will follow, some
people won't. Some people have something negative, say something. Some
people will be on your benefit and to your benefit.
But you speak if you feel so, if you choose

(29:33):
to do so. When it blows up, if it blows up,
then you say the truth, and then you go on
about your business and let the motherfuckers argue amongst themselves
in the comments, but exactly this is absolutely insane.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I want to put this up there like that.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
I appreciate it. Man. I thought it would be a
great idea to just take her post because she used
a selfie with all the information on it, and then
scratch off the information and be like opener, opener producer
and then have like a hiring sign at the top,
you know, just like anyways, and it's.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
So much to that.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
I mean, goodness, if you promoted the show, I mean
to her, she promoted the show and she had two
hundred people standing there that were just for her, then
you could say, from that perspective, hey, I brought two
hundred people to this show. I think I need I deserve.
I've earned a little bit more on my pay. Then

(30:34):
showing up fifteen minutes later doing your little fifteen minute
time and then demanding that you make it right because
she wasn't the headliner.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Dude, you know what had been I know in the
moment you're not thinking this, but you know what had
been great? Be like you know what you might be right.
So I'll tell you what. I'll give you an extra
one hundred dollars for each post that you did promoting
the show. Oh yeah, yeah, right, give you eight thousands.
I'll give you a million for every post you did

(31:04):
promoting the show.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I'll tell you what. I'll give you an extra fifty
bucks for every professional thing that I think that a
per comic should do. Show up on time and don't
burn the light. How about that fifty bucks for every
you burned the light and you showed up late. Sorry,
you don't get any bonuses. Yeah, like if I burnt
the light and was late. I didn't even mention that

(31:26):
she burnt the light. I'm just remembering this now, but
she did burn the light, and I'm like, I would
just I would be mortified. I would be mortified.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Did you did you ever talk to what's her name
from Wisconsin? God, she's so funny. I'm forgetting her name.
That was Yeah, did you ever talk to her? Or
did she Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Dude. So at the end of that show, I was like, Hey,
just so you guys know, because we had fun, you know,
you made money. If you want somebody to thank, go
thanks Sasha Rosser. I just fucking handed her name over
to these people who had no idea. And then after
all this I reached out to Sasha, going yo, Sasha.

(32:05):
Here's screenshots of my messages with that comic. I wouldn't
recommend her anymore, just so you know. But anyways, the
headline you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Tell you don't have to tell us what well, oh
the white dude, I get it. No, yeah, And you
don't have to say what Sasha said, because you know
whatever it was. But crazy CUTI had asked what does
burning the light mean? So so crazy on the on
Tyler's show, and again he mentioned at the beginning he's
under a time constraint. It's it's not his regular show.

(32:38):
So and as an example, let's say your your book
to do fifteen minutes. So as a comic, you're you're
they'll always ask you, okay, when do you want to light?
So if you're doing if I was doing fifteen minutes,
I would probably say, oh, can I get a two
minute light? Meaning at thirteen minutes of my fifteen minute set,
somebody in the back will or they have a light

(33:01):
at the club, but somebody will turn the light on
to let me know I got two minutes left of
my fifteen minutes set. And if I go over that
after that two minutes, if I go over that fifteen minutes.
Let's say I do another five minutes. So now I've
done twenty minutes. I've burned the light. I've gone five
minutes over what my time was. So I've burned the
light five minutes. And if you're on a if you're

(33:24):
on a tight time, like you have a hard out,
meaning you have a you have to be out of
there at a specific time, like there's no leeway, then
that's that can fuck up the whole show. I mean,
you know, burning going over your time.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
That now you can even say, well, shit, had you
not done all that you had you not burned a light,
then he would have been able to do his time.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
So you actually cut into his time. Dude.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I always I know that it's gonna like everybody's gonna
do like I expect people to go over a little
bit because of like the format of the show, you're
getting high, you're gonna be high. Time is irrelevant. But yeah,
so I don't know or whatever.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, I wouldn't even worry about it. And you deal
with that, what do you do?

Speaker 4 (34:09):
You cross that bridge when it comes to it, if
it even goes that far. But it sounds like their
community comedy community in Minnesota needs to get their shit
together and could talk and I mean just show business.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, and we don't know. I mean, like, like Tyler said,
she presented it a certain way to get a certain reaction,
but we don't, you know, I don't know, we don't
know what I mean if if anybody in the Facebook
groups is like, hey, that's the headline, so we don't
you know, Yeah, I'll just look at it as this
one person specifically. And I mean, honestly, I would have

(34:43):
just I would have been like all of that ship
she wrote. I'd just been like, yeah, he's the headliner,
but thanks for doing the show, and then we're done
and then she can say whatever she want. I would
at that point just be like, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I'm like, exactly. I think I even know. It was
like good luck with your career. I think I even
threw that in there because I'm like, I'm throwing a
good luck with your career, because that is a fucking
I'm never talking to you again, you know, I only
say that to people I will never see again.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah we should, and rightfully so, I mean, because she's
gonna have a hard time, she's gonna have a hard
time if if that's her perspective on not only comedy,
but just simple professionalism, Like I wouldn't even I don't
even thought to say anything like that, not even thought
to say nothing like that.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
That ship is insane. Yeah, it's yeah, man.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
To another thing with people in this business and and
I say, art in general, you honestly believe that that
you're worth what that other person is getting paid. And
I say we all should believe that. I mean, we
all should be worth more. But there there's a hierarchy
to this, there's there's status to this, there are stiffs

(36:02):
to this. So if you're not there yet, then why
am I gonna be complaining? Like I said, why am
I asking for Jason Tatum money? If I'm sitting on
the bench like this, Oh, I'll come off the bitch
and I do a great job, but I'll go right
back to the bit.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
And I mean, this shit don't make sense. Yeah, And
what were you saying, Tyler? You say you reached out
to who?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, I reached out to the other two comics because
I'm like, clearly they're talking to each other, so I'm like,
I reach out to the headliner. I'm like, hey, just
so you know I didn't pay you more because you're
a white guy.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
He's like, you didn't.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I don't know if I need to tell you that,
but judging by your friend's post here, I'm just gonna
send you that message. I paid you more because you
got twenty thousand followers and we're recommended to headline the
show by everybody I.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Asked, and you're closing up the show.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I mean, and like, just in case anybody asking the
future why you get paid more, it's because you're funnier.
You just say that if he's listening. I didn't actually
say that, But if you're listening, James fucking just tell people,
because you're funnier than them is why you're getting paid more. Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
You said it was her idea to talk about the
ship from the gate. I bet so. She knew that
she was trying to get out of it. At the
end of the day. What were you about to say, Tyler?

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, there's one time I did a show with a
weekend headliner and the club and I'm sure this has
happened to both you guys, were the headliner does so
bad that they cut his time and then all of
you guys got to pick up extra time where they
add people to the show, and like, I remember, I
was on a show with a fucking very famous person

(37:36):
and his time got cut from sixty minutes to fifteen.
I also did fifteen And guess who got paid more
in me? Or was it the guy on television?

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Dude? I can top that. I can top that when
I was at the parlor. I won't say the headliner's name,
but actually I'll just tell this whole story. I don't
know if I've told either of you guys this. So
there was a famous, famous comic. He'd been on TV
on sitcoms. He was headlining in town at the and

(38:14):
and doing time on the shows. Was Justin Rupple was
back in town, Ron Funches was featuring, and Adam Ray
was doing a guest spot. So first show went great,
no problem. Second show starts, and from the end of
the first show. Between the end of the first show
and the second show, the headliner had consumed a full

(38:37):
bottle of vodka to himself. I know exactly who this is,
so he is fucked up. So I so second show starts,
I'm hosting. I go up, I do my I do
like ten minutes justin Rupple does a guest spot, Adam
Ray does a guest spot. Ron Funches features does great,

(38:58):
everybody does great. Liner goes up and he he I
bring him up, and he goes, hey, everybody did great.
He's hammered. Everybody did great. Let's bring everybody back up
on stage. So he's like Jay and Justin. Justin's up.
That comes up Adam Ray. As Adam Ray comes up,
he goes, hey, this isn't fucking weird. And then Ron

(39:21):
Ron Funches comes up and for those that don't know
Ron very funny comic also happens to be black. And
the headliner as Ron comes up, puts his hand on
Ron's shoulder and goes, hey, Ron, you're the only one
up here that's not black. No idea what that means.
He was hamm Yes, I know, I don't know what
it means. So you guys don't know. Yeah, it's just weird.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I mean he's the only.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I mean, Ron's kind of a quirky dude. But I
don't know what the funk that meant. Anyways, Uh, so
we all get off. He's like, okay, thanks guys, So
we all get off stage. He's it's probably been thirty
seconds since we just got off stage, and he said
all that and brought us up. And as he's talking,
this tooth in his mouth falls out of his head

(40:15):
onto the stage. He goes, I'm on the side watching
and I'm like, oh fuck. So he goes, he goes, oh,
he goes, he goes, he puts back in his head.
Maybe more seconds go by, tooth falls out of his
mouth again onto the stage. At this point, I look

(40:36):
at all the other guys and I go, hey, I
don't know what's going on, but just be ready. I
don't know what's going to happen. Please just be ready.
And then he as he's putting the tooth back in
his mouth for the second time, he goes, he goes, oh,
I don't know what to do, and somebody in the
front road goes, how about you tell a fucking joke.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
So he says, So, I never do that, but I
do appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
So the headliner goes, oh, yeah, o god, let me,
let me, let me bring Jay back up here, let
me get so he walks off. So I people are
going Jay he's getting off, and so I'm running to
the stage and I'm like hitting ron Adam and justin,
I go, be ready, I'm gonna bring you guys back up.
Be ready. You know, I don't know. So I go
back up on stage. The headliner is now in the

(41:30):
green room, being a good host and for a fellow comic.
I'm just trying to cover for the hammered headliner. Right,
So what I say is I go, I go, oh,
the headline, I say his name, I go, the headliner
he had, he had, he was at the dentist today.
This is all horseshit, but I go, he's at the

(41:52):
dentist today, so you know, he might be a little loopy.
Or I didn't say loopy, but I was like, you know,
he's dealing with that, trying to imply that he's fucked
up because as he's on novacine or whatever. Right when
I say that.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Fucking Ron Hammer and the dentist.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, fucking When I said that, trying to cover for him,
Ron Funches right of stage starts laughing, and it's the
only sound you hear in the club because I'm not
doing jokes. I'm trying to cover this and you just
know it. Yeah, and his laugh is like it's like
really high pain. Yes, I look over at Ron, I go,

(42:33):
thanks Ron, and so I did, like I think I
did like fifteen twenty more minutes. Justin came up, did
like fifteen more minutes. Adam did fifteen more minutes, and
then Ron I think did like fifteen or twenty more
thirty minutes. I don't know. Anyways, the headliner never came
back up on stage. And you know how much our

(42:54):
pay was adjusted? Fucking Sarah Saraoh. He never fucking went back.
He never performed that second show, but got paid for it,
and we didn't get the thing.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Some fucking entitled comics would be like, well, that's bullshit,
your pay should be adjusted. But the thing is is
that you just put in so much extra work with
that club, and they recognize that that they're going to
give you extra work because they appreciate you looking out
for them. They're gonna have to refund tickets, they're gonna
lose money on this ship. Like you don't know what's

(43:28):
going on, Like people are gonna be pissed. It's like,
just roll with it, try not to be a problem,
and like it'll balance back out. Like if this lady
never complained, she could have gotten on any fucking show
right over here. On the West Coast. She could have
been on a whole fucking West Coast tour, Cannadian tour, but.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Uppity and Jesus glad you said that about the lady. Uh.
The the other rip effects of that is, don't tell
me that. I know you already told her name, but
don't don't tell me it again because because we all talk.

(44:08):
So if she's coming to Vegas and she posts and
I remember this name, uh, and like, you know, I'm
trying to get a gig, Like if it's somebody that
you were, you were like, hey, dude, I was in
Minnesota and this comic Bob Jones was so fucking dude. Dude,
he was so funny, professional and he killed it. And

(44:30):
I see him post in Las Vegas group. Hey, I'm
coming to Vegas and I have shows where oh shit,
I remember Tyler said, this guy was great, very funny. Hey,
I'll throw you a spot, all right, maybe I can
get you some work, you know. But the opposite if
if somebody's a piece of shit, you.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Get talked like this is such a gabbing community where
we're all gonna be gabbing, Like I'm sure I'm gonna
be thrown under the bus and a bunch of circles
over there. But it's not like any of that shit's
gonna matter for me because it's not like it's gonna hurt,
Like I'm not gonna get a venue to be like,
whoa what happened here? Bro, They're gonna be like, oh shit,

(45:08):
you sold out another fucking show. Here's another offer, you know,
like in.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
A place that you don't leave, you don't have any
connection to outside of that dude helping you out.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, they'll be you'll be perfectly fine. And let me
let me say one other thing about that that show,
that that headliner was hammered that we didn't get any
other you know, we didn't get like a bonus or
you know, a fucking here's a couple extra chicken strips. Nothing. Uh.
Here's the thing is everybody at that show at that

(45:37):
time was there for the headliner. Nobody came there for us.
Now they got a great show, like we all covered
and it was everybody was very happy with, like you know, with.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
As far as like that lineup now, like those are
all famous, that's a great show. Well except but your famous.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Thanks for Oh Jay, He's like, what name you're like
he has a special ab right now. If you check
it out, it's called the Green Monster.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
We got a live audience right now, randomly when we
switched times last minute our floating podcast.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yes, well we have to because Carlos has a gig.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
But I'm not downgrading. I'm just saying you're famous.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
You got people watching, all right, Carlos, do you can
you stay for eleven more minutes or do you have
to go right now? Yeah? And I ain't got no
gay ass in my car. You gotta get a hybrid,
all right. I was gonna, well, I kind of told you, well, no,
So I just was gonna say this. Last weekend I
was in why Wise Guys in Utah and shout out

(46:47):
to JD aka short Bus Comedy short Bus on Instagram,
took care of me. He's uh, he's like, uh, he
lives up there in Utah and he's like one of
the main guys that Wise Guys. Shout out to Keith
Stubbs to owner of Wise Guys Clubs are fucking great
up there. But JD took care of me all weekend

(47:09):
and Saturday. I got to live a white boy spring.
I got to like what I got to relive my
youth that I never got to live as a young
white boy growing up. What I mean by that is
like growing up, I didn't I listened. I was a

(47:30):
city I was a city boy. I grew up in
the city. I didn't grow up on a farm or
fucking deal with animals or any of that shit. And
I growing up, I listened to hip hop and R
and B. My dad listened to all kinds of like
earth Wind and fire Cool in the gang, you know,
et cetera, et cetera. So so what we did Saturday
is JD drove an hour, came, picked me up, went

(47:53):
back to his place, and we went four wheeling. I
had never been on a four wheeler in my life.
And we went up in these mountains in Utah and
its fucking so beautiful and it was dude. I was
scared shitless though. When I first got on, I was like,
should I get a helmet? And he goes, ah, they'll
block your vision, and I'm like ah. And I always

(48:14):
talk about like I don't do extreme sports. Shit. I
don't want to go parachuting, I don't want to go
hang gliding, I don't I avoid any shit, trying to
fuck with death, and so I didn't wear a helmet,
but I was like, Okay, I'm going to be very,
very cautious. And one thing I found out about four
wheelers is they accelerate very quick and then as soon

(48:36):
as you let off the gas they break like they
jerk or they slow down really quickly. So it was
a learning curve on how to use it. But there
was times where I was doing like fucking forty miles
an hour on this thing. But we went up into
the mountains and we did like twenty one miles of
all through these mountains and then and it was dope.

(48:56):
It was awesome. Never done anything like that, and Utah
remind me like the mountains reminded me a lot of
like Ireland. It was a trip. And then did the show.
We had one show that night, and then after the show,
I took an edible got high as fuck, and then
we went to the other Wise Guys where I met
Keith and I met some of the other local comics

(49:16):
and then Spencer King, who opened for me, was one
of the openers. I know, my white side came out crazy,
That's what I was saying, and why do you hear
this shit? And then as we're there at the other wise, guys,
which is fucking huge and beautiful. It's great clubs. Spencer
King was like, Hey, you want to go with us

(49:39):
to see Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon Laser
light Show. And I was like, yes, I never do
anything like that. And what's crazy is growing up, like
you know, you have like clicks in high schools, you
have like the Rockers, you have the Druggies, which might
be the Rockers too. I was like, it was funny

(50:02):
because when like the section of our cafeteria over here
was like where all the the black people sat, and
I those were only people I knew from middle school
because like our uh what they it was like this
if you're looking at you, I'm not saying like get
the the back well over here was like the black section,

(50:30):
I guess, and then one white this is well it was.
It was where all the black people sat, and then
me there was one white dot over there. Big white
over here was like in the center. In the back
was like the popular kids or like the fucking popular
kids over here on the right were like the emo
and fucking rockers and all this ship right. So, but

(50:53):
growing up I was gonna say like you would always
hear like the rockers would always talk about doing uh uh,
going to see Pink Floyd, Dark Sided of the Moon,
going to the laser light shows. I never got to
do that, or never did that because there was no
I didn't listen to that music, and there was no
like fucking Tupac Laser light Show when I was growing up,
which I would have gone to, but uh, but I

(51:15):
went to it. I never There was one song of
Pink Floyd's that I recognized. I think it was called Money,
but all the other songs i'd never heard very uh
sounded a lot like the Beatles. But dude, it was awesome.
It was so fun, dude, being high out of your
mind and just sitting there and watching it. It was
fucking amazing. And I I think I called you afterwards, Carlos,

(51:37):
or maybe the next day, and I was like, we
gotta go do the sphere. We have to go, we
gotta do the sphere. I want to do this. You
didn't You didn't call me? Oh it was Sean. I
called Sean. It was Sean, that's right.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
I was too busy off that side over there, so
I must have missed that call.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
I'll I'll look for it next side, just you know,
go further in the back. I think it was. I
did call Sean because I knew he knew who Pink
Floyd was, or he had listened to people will make
you think that I don't know who playing Floyd? Which
which song of theirs? Is your favorite? Silver Moon? The
is that? If that's is that? Ang?

Speaker 1 (52:13):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Silver Moon? I dude, I have no idea. Thank god, Tyler,
you motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I was like, you like dark Side of the Blad
was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
I was like, is that fucking sign? I don't know?
But yeah, ude, well we'll talk about it afterwards, Carlos.
But yeah, I wanted we gotta go do the sphere.
It was awesome, but I got to I got to
relive my youth as a young white man or young
white boy, which it was. It was. It was crazy.
I I got to do all these things that UH

(52:53):
never done before. But it was fun. But that's all
I want to say. He said silver Moon. I was
immediately like, how the fuck you?

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Next week, ladies and gentlemen, I'll tell you about my
black side.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Oh shit, all right, where are we at? This week.
Let's do our plugs and then we'll get out of here.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Yeah, I'm about to be a daily comedy club here
an hour, Andy, and I am in Laughlin the rest
of this week, and then I got some dope tails
and Texas coming up.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
So check part time famous dot com out. Yes, Tyler.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
This Friday, I am at the Shall I Shall I
Theater and eat them claw really great lineup Dope show there,
Dope Show at the North Bend Theater on Saturday, and
then at Dope Show on Sunday four pm, Coma Comedy Club,
seven pm Everett Historical Theater, and again at four pm

(53:49):
at Spokane Comedy Club. I will not be at the
Spokane one, but my favorite comic Harry J. Riley will
be over there hosting for me.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
All white headliners on all those shows.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Hey, j Riley's black.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I'm crazy. I'm sure he's at the back of the show.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
He's hosting and he's getting paid the.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Most this this weekend Friday. And if you, if anybody
listening to this, or Crazy Cutie or Felicia, anybody that's
in here, if you have friends or family in these areas,
please let them know. But Friday I'm doing a one
nighter at the Punchline in Philadelphia. Punchline Philly one night

(54:34):
or one show only Saturday. This Saturday, I will be
in Avenel, New Jersey, which is by Woodbridge or part
of Woodbridge at the Avenel Performing Arts Center. That tickets
are low on that I just did a real boost
today or an ad for it. So if you have
friends in New Jersey, please let them know. And then Sunday,

(54:56):
I'm doing a private gig and then I'm back Monday.
But you can go to Big irishja dot com uh
for tickets and until next week. And as far as Georgia,
I was gonna talk to you about that, Carlos, we'll talk.
I'm gonna talk to you about something about in Atlanta,
but we'll talk crazy until next week. Thanks everybody, I
love you. And until then, if you if a person

(55:22):
fucking listens to this till the end, you deserve a prize.
Your prize is to go to iTunes and rate a review.
This podcast given five stars.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
You motherfuckers, fucking say something nice, you Fox, you motherfuckers
this fucking piece of ship for five years, averaging about
two fucking reviews a year.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Go fucking write some motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
That is the realist I've ever heard you.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Yeah, dude, what the fuck