August 18, 2025 • 28 mins
Jack and Nikki analyze a viral story about a man who caused chaos at a birthday party when he attempted to contain an out of control child, answer a question from a listener about faking Halloween for their kid and ask if you can separate the art from the artist?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you're listening to the Jack and Nikki Show podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's Jack and Nikki with the story that's gone viral
on the Internet that can really only be explained by
terrible parenting.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Unorthodox and totally irresponsible.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I'm the worst parent ever.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Worst parents ever, worst irresponsible, irresponsible individuals. This is criminally irresponsible,
the worst thing you can do as a parents, the
worst parent. Eff.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
You must think we're the worst parents in the world.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, I certainly do. It's a poor guy who tried
to salvage a party birthday party, tried to save it
from this out of control, spoiled child, only to have
the crowd turn on him. We'll tell you the story
here and then I want to get into how you
would handle this and what you think about what he did.
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Studio lines opened eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty
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at that number. You can also text us at three
five sixty five one. Here's the story. This guy explained
that he intervened at a birthday party to stop a
spoiled child from ruining it. Okay, so this party is
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for his girlfriend's mom. Okay, I guess it's her birthday party.
His girlfriend's mom. His girlfriend's brother brought a two year
old son with him, and this two year old stuck
his hands into the cake and licked them. This is
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before they had cake. You know, they're getting ready to
give you up the cake and hand it out and everything.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
So this kid is too.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
He's sticking his hands in it and licking his hands
and putting them back in the cake, the cake that
everybody's waiting to eat. He also destroyed various decorations. So
our hero reached over and moved the cake away from
the child.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
That's all he did. He justlid the cake away.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Back into the left, Yeah, back into the left. At
that point, the kid started screaming and throwing a tantrum.
This guy who moved the cake was then shocked to
discover that most of the people at the party got
angry at him and started yelling at him for moving
the cake away from the kid.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
The man said, and I'm quoting now.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The child started thrashing around and screaming bloody murder, which
is always a strange thing for a child to scream.
Have you ever been around a kid and they start
going bloody murder?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Bloody murder?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Seems like a lot of us still weird.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, weird thing for a kid to scream, especially two.
He said, Everyone glared at me like I was the
most evil person on earth for doing what I did,
and they rushed to placate the kid. People were saying, oh,
you poor little thing, give him okay. I think that
this situation is a very good indicator for why we're
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in the mess that we are in as a society.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You have got to apply the same standards to your
own kid that you would apply to other people's kids. Now,
if you were out somewhere and somebody else's kid did that,
you would be disgusted every that year ago. This little
punk is ruining it. But if it's your kid, well
it's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
No, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's not fine for any kid to do this to
a cake that a bunch of people are waiting to eat. Now,
in my opinion, this guy should have been celebrated as
a hero, carried out on the shoulders of a cheering crowd, Yes, okay,
people cheering, dogs barking. Maybe give him a plaque. A
couple of days later, there's a ceremony in a local park,
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that type of thing. Yeah, yeah, but it didn't turn
out that way for him. Now the argument can be made.
Here's the counter argument. Oh, it's not his family, it's
his girlfriend's family, and he should have just stayed out
of it and let them deal with it. However, they're
gonna deal with it. If they're gonna let the kid continue,
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then they're gonna let him continue. Or maybe somebody's gonna
step in and put a stop to it. But either way,
not his family, not his kid.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
He needs to stay out. Now.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I get that argument. I get that argument because you
and I, you and I are always talking about you know,
Dave deals with his family. You deal with your family. Yes,
Jessica deals with her family. I deal with my family.
It's your family to deal with.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So the way you end up causing a lot of
bad vibes in a relationship is when you start dealing
with Dave's family or he starts arguing with your family,
then things really start to fall apart. So you kind
of have to let the family deal with their own family. Sure,
so maybe he should have just sat there and cringed
and thought, well, I guess I'll stop at KFC on
the way home. They have a nice cake there for
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dessert that I enjoy.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Get some host His cupcakes and that'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, I'll just go sit in the car and eat
a package of a Hostess cup cakes.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Okay, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
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three five sixty five to one, Nikki, any quick thoughts
from you.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
I think that if one of my nephews did this, yep,
Dave or myself would have stepped in and grabbed the kid.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
And yeah, but the thing though, it's still family, so.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Well, I would have been fine if David done it too.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah. But he's married to you, that's true. Yeah, he's
not just dating ye yeah, yeah, I guess that could
be the problem.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Maybe maybe that is the problem.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
See what you guys have to say next, you guys
lighting them up the studio and textual lines. Triple eight,
triple seven sixty six forty call us textus at that number,
textus at three five sixty five to one. Let's talk
about your reaction to this guy who apparently angered a
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bunch of people at a birthday party. This was an
adult birthday party, by the way. His girlfriend's mom and
his girlfriend's brother showed up with a year old son,
and that kid was sticking his hands in the cake
and licking his hands and putting him back in the
cake before they cut the cake for people to eat.
So this guy just moved the cake away, just reached
over and slid the cake out of arms reach for
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the kid. Kid throws a tantrum. Everybody turns on this
guy for pulling the cake away from the kid. He
is bewildered. What would you do in this situation? What
do you think about what he did? Nikki Drake hit me.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
With the texts, all right, he handled it much better
than I would have.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I would have directly told the kid to stop.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
I grew up knowing that any close adult could tell
me to stop when I was misbehaving, and that I
needed to listen, and my mom probably wouldn't have let
me had any cake after that. You don't reward bad behavior.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, I was disciplined by every adult in our town,
whether I did anything wrong or not, sure, and Mom
was okay with that. Basically, if I was just outside
and an adult was around, they were free to strike me.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, there was a gauntlet you had to go through. Well,
you walk through town.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's exactly right. Yeah, so you stayed on the straight
and the arrow. You got a little taste.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, there's something to be said for that though. Now
the counter argument to that is you can't count on
all adults to be reasonable. Some of them are nuts. Yes,
So you can't just have that policy where you're like, well,
any adult can discipline my child. Some of them are crazy. Yeah,
So it depends on the adult, doesn't.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
It It does, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yes, it does.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Yeah, another text here, it's wild.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
This is even a question.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
He did what any responsible adult present should have done.
And it's not like he scolded the child, which the
parents should have done one hundred percent not and be
pull Yeah, well I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I mean what he did was very mild. I mean
he simply reached down and just lid the cake out
of arms reach of the child. He didn't say anything
to the kid, he didn't swat.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
The kid, he didn't pick up the kid and move
the kid. Nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
He didn't pick up the kid by the ankles and
hold his face into the cake until he stopped squirming,
and then just toss the kid down and went there
you go. Let me learn, right, something that could have happened. Yeah,
I mean we've all been there, right am. I the
only one who's as a child had an adult put
their hand on the back of my head and hold
my face into a cake until I stop moving.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Surely that's normal, right, right?
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Okay, Oh my gosh, I got another one here, give
me one more. If I thought they were okay with
the kid contaminating the cake, I would just say I'm
cutting my piece now before he contaminates the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
If they try to tell me.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
No, I would leave immediately on principle and consider leaving
my partner.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's clearly a family of animals.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay, so you're gonna get your own slice, yeah, before
it's contaminated. You're gonna do this on principle? Well leave
if they say no, principle Yeah, I like that taking
a principle stand, I got you, okay, and then you know,
dismiss them as animals and abandon the whole family and
break up with a girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah. I like this. Texter.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
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Speaker 3 (09:13):
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Speaker 2 (09:16):
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Speaker 5 (09:24):
For it, You for it, You ask for it, and
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Speaker 2 (09:32):
Pull or text your questions to the show and perhaps,
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I'd like to say we're gonna help you out with
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one as well. Here is the question. Okay, my husband
and I are taking the kid's trick or treating this Friday,
so that's tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
What Yeah? Yeah, it was confusing to me as well.
So they have.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
A toddler here who has been asking every morning for
the last two weeks if it's trick and or treating day,
So we figured why not. We have provided candy to
a few friends and family that they can give to him.
Are we spoiling or confusing him? Or is it just
good fun? What say you again? Studio and text lines
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are open. We're talking about a kid who's right around
the age of three or so. Is this harmless fun?
Is it spoilage? Will it confuse the child? Will it
potentially anger him when he gets a little older and
finds out that you took him trick or treating under
false pretenses? Will he spend the right rest of his
life describing this in therapy? NICKI, Drake, what do you
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think here?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
That is interesting?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Sure, I mean, but all like kind of harmless fun, right, Okay? Yeah,
Howl's the.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Kid right around three?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Oh yeah, okay, time is nothing to a three year old.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It does not exist.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
So that's kind of neat.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I kind of go to probably not. No, I'm guessing
the answer to that is going to be no.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It is interesting because again, this is one of the
things I think you could make the argument that this
might be an opportunity to teach the kid about the calendar,
the calendar and time, how things work, and you know
the kind of waiting to go do things and looking
forward to it, and you know, the Japanese believe I
don't have to tell you, Nikki, I'm sure with the
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Japanese belief, oh sure, but they they believe that looking
forward to something is actually better than having it. Anticipation
joy of anticipation is actually better than having it. Okay,
perhaps you could introduce this three year old to these
Japanese concepts. At the very least, maybe it's an opportunity
to teach patients, Okay, you have to wait for things
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in life sometimes, you know, non instant gratification. Conversely, you
could make the argument that at the age of three,
you're right at the edge when your memories are starting
to form. Kid's probably not even gonna remember this right
honestly down there. I mean, if you think about your
first memory, the very first thing that you can ever
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remember in your life, it's generally around the age of three.
You don't really lodge a lot of memories prior to that.
So it's possible that this kid's not even locking in
memories yet. So one day when he's twenty, you can say, hey,
here's what we did when you were three. We took
your trick or treating in June, and he's going to say,
I have no memory of that at all. I had
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no idea that happened right, or you know, maybe he
will lock it in and the rest of his life.
Can't use a calendar eight eight eight seven seven seven
sixty six forty Studio text line. You can also text
us at three five sixty five to one. Is the
spoiling or confusing the kid? Is it harmless fun? Or again,
will you ruin his concept of time for the rest
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of his life? What do you think you ask for?
It a text coming into the show with question from
a parent. They're going to take their toddler trick or
treating tomorrow. Of course it's fake trick or treating. They
have discussed this with the neighbors, supplied candy to those
neighbors so they're not burdened with having to purchase the
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candy for the child. They'll put a little costume on
the kid, go door to door and do their trick
or treating. And the question is this spoiling him? Is
it confusing him? Is this a good idea? Is it
just good, clean, harmless fun. That is the question we're
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posing to you. Eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty
six forty. You can call us, you can text us.
You can also text us at three five sixty five
to one. Lots of reaction coming in on the etextual line.
Nikki Drake, would you like to field those texts?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I like this one.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Maybe he should have asked for Santa and would have
gotten to Christmases?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
You know what that is?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's an interesting question, right, What would you do if
he was like, when's Christmas?
Speaker 7 (14:25):
Right?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
When's Christmas gonna get here? Christmas?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Not time yet?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Right, not time? But would you go Christmas in July?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Oh right?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Yeah right? I mean throw the tree, tossed down, a
couple presents, here you go.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I guess I would say it's harmless, but at the
same time probably confusing because what happens when he gets
older and expects to go trigger treating twice a year.
How do you explain to the kid that there's only
one Halloween once a year.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, I think that's the danger you run if the
child is in fact old enough to start forming memories.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Yeah right, eight, Yeah, that is Yeah, that's what I
was saying.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Just be like, you know what, we wanted to do
something special for you. So that year there were two Halloweens,
but it was only for you, and you know.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Honey, It's like an eclipse. You know, it happens once.
It's not every year. Once in a while, there's an eclipse, right,
and we go to do a second trick and or treating.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Yeah, it needs to be viewed from the perspective of
the kid's whole life. If you're going to give him
immediate gratification for the rest of his life, that'll be
a problem. If this is just a one off, special
day sort of event, then enjoy it and don't worry
too much.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah that makes sense. Don't worry too much.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well, yeah, but are you viewing it from the perspective
of the whole life or aren't you?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
I would be like, oh, this is just going to
be cute for one one year, you know, Like yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
That's what I continue to maintain that you're walking a
dangerous line here, because God help you. If that kid's
memories are forming now, that kid is going to start
expecting two of these a year, So you.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Gotta hope rocking the line.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I think so, Yeah, I think so. This might be
a good opportunity to sit down and not only explain
the calendar, but also with the calendars based on you
see there's a solar system, and here's the sun okay,
and here's the Earth going around, and this is how
long it takes to go. And when it spends, it's
a day, and you know it goes around and that's
a year. And this is how it account may maybe
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too much for a three year.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Old, maybe too much?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Maybe too much that might be might be an especially
precocious three year old. Yeah, you never know. I saw
another text here Are they not concerned that he's going
to notice that there are no other kids around and
costumes doing any other trick or treating?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
He may not that what if he does?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Though?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
This is follow me on this. How funny is this?
How funny is this? Yeah, they put him in a costume,
they go out, he starts saying where are the other kids?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Where are the other kids? And they panic and then
they have.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
To go kid in a costume and get him out here.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
We're trying to fake trigger trading. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Let me just say, well, this is just for you.
This is a special Halloween.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Here's twenty bucks. Get your kid in a costume and
get him out of here. Help us out, all right?
Anything else before?
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Oh, yeah, there's a couple here. The thing about Halloween
is that it's only once a year. What makes it special?
Uh if you what makes it special if you start
doing it more often, because then it's not special, like
those morons who celebrate Christmas for three months.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well that's a fair point. It is a fair point,
because what makes something valuable is scarcity. Yeah, that's why
diamonds are valuable. That's why your very life is valuable
because it's short, right, right, So if you don't have scarcity,
you don't have value.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
That's a very good argument.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
But Christmas is also a season, not a day, and
I feel like Halloween is like a it's like a monthish,
I guess, like for the decorations, but it's still shorter
than that.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That's a fair point. Christmas season, that's a fair point.
Christmas is a season.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Yeah, this parent, there's a parent that is accident. I'm
assuming their parent. When you have a toddler, you'll do
anything to keep them quiet.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I'll tell you God, he screaming again. Quick, where's this
Dracula costume? Somebody just texted in a story and said,
this is what happens to impatient toddlers. Let's take a look.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
What in the world is going on? Don't giant freaks.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
These are all terrible ideas part of the family tradition.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Wow, just like that show Big Brother. Don't see that
on Animal Planet. To be honest, I've never seen such dysfunction.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
A passenger at an Italian airport, a Chinese national, was
set to board a flight when gatestaff informed her that
her bag exceeded the weight limit and additional fees would
be required. Passenger reacted, let's say, negatively, engaging in an
out burst described as quote a toddler style tantrum. Eyewitnesses,
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including airport police and airline personnel, observed the middle aged
woman rolling around on the floor, waving her arms and screaming.
At one point, she resorted to stomping her feet while
lying flat on the ground.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Oh yes, are we sure this wasn't like some interesting
form of yoga.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Ultimately, she was denied and was not allowed to board
the plane. They did book her on a later flight
after she had the opportunity to calm down. If I
calmed down, I'm going to assume that means tranquilized.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, here's the thing, this is not that uncommon anymore.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
This does happen fairly often.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You see adults throwing tantrums in public places all the time.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Yes, most recently graduation ceremony the right, right, Yeah, that
was happening for a while.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
You see people do it in drive through Yeah, in
stores if the credit cards declined or something, or they
won't return something, they'd just start kicking and screaming and
fall to the floor and start pounding their fists.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
And I mean, this is that's true.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
More and more becoming an issue, which is why I
believe we really should have access to more tranquilizer darts,
and I think that they should be issued to the
general public. And this could be handled in the same
way that people would make a citizens arrest. Oh really, Yeah,
you see somebody flailing around having a fit, being ridiculous
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and you just clunk.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Do you have to announce that this is a citizen's
tranquilization and do you have to spell it before tranking
the person?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
I don't think. I don't think I have to.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You have that far round, okay, Just the same way
the police will say, Hey, if you don't calm down,
we're going to tase you. We're going to tase you.
You would be able to say, calm down, are you
know I'm gonna trank you.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I've got a.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Little something right here that's gonna calm you down a
little bit. Let me just go ahead and get this
loaded up. Yeah, and then, of course, you know you'd
have to provide your own butterfly net to throw over
them and then drag them away, your own zip ties
for their hands. Okay, you have either a pickup truck
with a big bed or a car with a nice
big trunk in it. There's a whole lot of stuff
that would really have to go along with this, but
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at this point, just an idea.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
You know, you got to throw the ideas around.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
We're just would you prefer a truck bed or a
roomy trunk?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I personally would like a truck bed because then you
don't have to hear them back there.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
One.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'm yeah, Oh, I see, I hadn't thought that far ahead.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
The Jack and Nikki Show two w v a Q.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
This is the part of the show where we pick
your brain? Can you separate the art from the artist.
We stumbled into this about half an hour ago or so.
Kyle Wiggs was in here doing a sports update and
Nicki mentioned seeing Days of Blunder and Kyle said, I
won't watch.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
A Tom Cruise movie.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I hate him, And we were saying, what do you
mean you won't watch his Tom Cruise movie because you
hate him? He's like, I hate him. I think he's
he's weird. I don't like the way he lives his
personal life. I don't like anything about him. So I
can't stomach his movies. I can't watch his movies. Now,
this is a really interesting question, because you know, if
you're not gonna watch somebody's movies or TV shows or
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listen to their music because you don't like them personally,
or they're maybe a bad person or just kind of
a strange person or whatever, yeah, you're gonna have to
cut a lot out of your life. Because a lot
of the people who make movies and TV shows and
music and art, stand up comedy and so on and
so forth are very flawed people who are pretty screwed
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up and maybe are awful people.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, and a lot of them get star itis and
they become insufferable.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah, Thomson Gerer comes to mind.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So there are a lot of people that you're gonna
just have to mark off and not enjoy anything that
they do. So that is my question to you, guys,
are you able to do this or do you even
want to do this? Eight eight eight seven seven seven
sixty six forty You can call this. You could text
this there, you can text us at three five sixty
five to one. Let's begin with you, Nikki Drake. What's
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your policy?
Speaker 7 (23:30):
I am pretty good about separating the artists from the
art except I have an exception.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Is it Chris Brown? It is Chris Brown? Somehow I
knew that.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
That One's really difficult for me. I mean, aunt Kanye
as well. Like I just I will start to like
feel the groove and then I'm reminded of all of
the horrible stuff and I'm like, oh man, that just
killed the vibe.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Yeah, So I have.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Well, Chris Brown putting this lapping sound effects in his songs.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
It's just it's weird that he would do that. Yeah,
it's a constant reminder, very strange.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Right, yeah, yeah, what about you?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well, this is interesting because I had to cross this
bridge with Michael Jackson in the nineties. Right, we all
know what Michael Jackson was accused of. Yeah, no, one
knows if he in fact did these things, right, it's
not looking good, No, it's not. And so a lot
of radio stations wouldn't play his music anymore. And he
kind of turned into this guy who was just ostracized
(24:38):
by society after having been the biggest star in the
planet for twenty.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Or thirty years.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And the problem, the problem is he's you know, he
made a lot of really good music.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
He's got a great catalog right.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Right, And Dave Chappelle used to be like, well, maybe
he's guilty of this, but he made thriller, right, you
know what I mean? So Okay, So I'm like, I
can still listen to Michael Jackson music because I don't
have to sit and think about what he may or
may not have done. And again, this we don't know, right,
So there's that. And if I'm being honest, I mean,
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I'm a Prince fan.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Prince was a jerk.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I mean in his personal life, he was terrible to people. Yeah,
and everybody knows that.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But again, maybe it's the price of genius, you know,
I mean, he would well, because because madness goes hand
in hand with creativity, most really smart creative people are
also very quirky and very strange because it just goes
hand in hand. But there are stories like Prince in
the wintertime in Minneapolis would call somebody at three o'clock
in the morning and be like, I need two giraffes
(25:41):
at Paisley Park. What do you mean you need two
giraffeses three o'clock in the morning, and he would go,
that's your problem, click and hang up on him. Are like,
what a jerk? So there are things you have to overlook.
All right, let me go to the studio. Lines here,
Triple eight, Triple seven, sixty six forty you are on
the Jack and Nikki show, which you got ian.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Yeah, I completely understand where he's coming from, not with
Tom Cruise, but I absolutely despise Matthew McConaughey and I
cannot watch anything that he is in.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Why why do you hate him so much?
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Well?
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Number one is the way he talks just drives me crazy.
And then he is like extreme affection for the University
of Texas, you know, being a mountaineer fan that I
just don't like it. And I just don't think he's.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
A good actor.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
I think he plays the same role every single time.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Hm, Well, talk you think guy.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
You know, I just don't like it.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you this. I also don't think
he's as attractive as people think he is.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
I agree with that, Okay, okay, good, I don't think
everybody and.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
They say other actors and actresses that have worked with
him say he like absolutely reeks. He doesn't use the odorant.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I can see that. I can see that. Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
So for all of these reasons and more, you can't
bring yourself to watch on Matthew McConaughey movie. Right, yeah, now,
I will tell you this. Your dislike of him, the
though does spill over into his performances because you said
he plays the same character all the time and right,
so it's not just personal hatred for him.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
You don't like what he does either.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Well, that's true. Yeah, you're ready.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Now I want to watch more of his performances because
I think it will be impressive to watch his co
stars have to deal with the smell and act through it.
I didn't know he was one of the you know
actors on the list of I don't earn Theodorant list.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yea, yeah, naked bongo guy. Of course he's not wearing deodorant.
That's what he does. Yeah, I'll watch his movies to
announ see if you can see people flinching around it.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Yeah, okay, you got it. Thanks for the call, buddy.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, say it in as hard as well.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
No, T, don't you be and you
Speaker 3 (28:11):
M hm
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's Jack and Nikki with the story that's gone viral
on the Internet that can really only be explained by
terrible parenting.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Unorthodox and totally irresponsible.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I'm the worst parent ever.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Worst parents ever, worst irresponsible, irresponsible individuals. This is criminally irresponsible,
the worst thing you can do as a parents, the
worst parent. Eff.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
You must think we're the worst parents in the world.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, I certainly do. It's a poor guy who tried
to salvage a party birthday party, tried to save it
from this out of control, spoiled child, only to have
the crowd turn on him. We'll tell you the story
here and then I want to get into how you
would handle this and what you think about what he did.
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Studio lines opened eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty
six forty. You can call us. You can text us
at that number. You can also text us at three
five sixty five one. Here's the story. This guy explained
that he intervened at a birthday party to stop a
spoiled child from ruining it. Okay, so this party is
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for his girlfriend's mom. Okay, I guess it's her birthday party.
His girlfriend's mom. His girlfriend's brother brought a two year
old son with him, and this two year old stuck
his hands into the cake and licked them. This is
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before they had cake. You know, they're getting ready to
give you up the cake and hand it out and everything.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
So this kid is too.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
He's sticking his hands in it and licking his hands
and putting them back in the cake, the cake that
everybody's waiting to eat. He also destroyed various decorations. So
our hero reached over and moved the cake away from
the child.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
That's all he did. He justlid the cake away.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Back into the left, Yeah, back into the left. At
that point, the kid started screaming and throwing a tantrum.
This guy who moved the cake was then shocked to
discover that most of the people at the party got
angry at him and started yelling at him for moving
the cake away from the kid.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
The man said, and I'm quoting now.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The child started thrashing around and screaming bloody murder, which
is always a strange thing for a child to scream.
Have you ever been around a kid and they start
going bloody murder?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Bloody murder?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Seems like a lot of us still weird.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, weird thing for a kid to scream, especially two.
He said, Everyone glared at me like I was the
most evil person on earth for doing what I did,
and they rushed to placate the kid. People were saying, oh,
you poor little thing, give him okay. I think that
this situation is a very good indicator for why we're
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in the mess that we are in as a society.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You have got to apply the same standards to your
own kid that you would apply to other people's kids. Now,
if you were out somewhere and somebody else's kid did that,
you would be disgusted every that year ago. This little
punk is ruining it. But if it's your kid, well
it's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
No, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's not fine for any kid to do this to
a cake that a bunch of people are waiting to eat. Now,
in my opinion, this guy should have been celebrated as
a hero, carried out on the shoulders of a cheering crowd, Yes, okay,
people cheering, dogs barking. Maybe give him a plaque. A
couple of days later, there's a ceremony in a local park,
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that type of thing. Yeah, yeah, but it didn't turn
out that way for him. Now the argument can be made.
Here's the counter argument. Oh, it's not his family, it's
his girlfriend's family, and he should have just stayed out
of it and let them deal with it. However, they're
gonna deal with it. If they're gonna let the kid continue,
(04:10):
then they're gonna let him continue. Or maybe somebody's gonna
step in and put a stop to it. But either way,
not his family, not his kid.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
He needs to stay out. Now.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I get that argument. I get that argument because you
and I, you and I are always talking about you know,
Dave deals with his family. You deal with your family. Yes,
Jessica deals with her family. I deal with my family.
It's your family to deal with.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So the way you end up causing a lot of
bad vibes in a relationship is when you start dealing
with Dave's family or he starts arguing with your family,
then things really start to fall apart. So you kind
of have to let the family deal with their own family. Sure,
so maybe he should have just sat there and cringed
and thought, well, I guess I'll stop at KFC on
the way home. They have a nice cake there for
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dessert that I enjoy.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Get some host His cupcakes and that'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, I'll just go sit in the car and eat
a package of a Hostess cup cakes.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Okay, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Triple eight, triple seven sixty six forty call us textas
three five sixty five to one, Nikki, any quick thoughts
from you.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
I think that if one of my nephews did this, yep,
Dave or myself would have stepped in and grabbed the kid.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
And yeah, but the thing though, it's still family, so.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Well, I would have been fine if David done it too.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah. But he's married to you, that's true. Yeah, he's
not just dating ye yeah, yeah, I guess that could
be the problem.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Maybe maybe that is the problem.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
See what you guys have to say next, you guys
lighting them up the studio and textual lines. Triple eight,
triple seven sixty six forty call us textus at that number,
textus at three five sixty five to one. Let's talk
about your reaction to this guy who apparently angered a
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bunch of people at a birthday party. This was an
adult birthday party, by the way. His girlfriend's mom and
his girlfriend's brother showed up with a year old son,
and that kid was sticking his hands in the cake
and licking his hands and putting him back in the
cake before they cut the cake for people to eat.
So this guy just moved the cake away, just reached
over and slid the cake out of arms reach for
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the kid. Kid throws a tantrum. Everybody turns on this
guy for pulling the cake away from the kid. He
is bewildered. What would you do in this situation? What
do you think about what he did? Nikki Drake hit me.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
With the texts, all right, he handled it much better
than I would have.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I would have directly told the kid to stop.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
I grew up knowing that any close adult could tell
me to stop when I was misbehaving, and that I
needed to listen, and my mom probably wouldn't have let
me had any cake after that. You don't reward bad behavior.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, I was disciplined by every adult in our town,
whether I did anything wrong or not, sure, and Mom
was okay with that. Basically, if I was just outside
and an adult was around, they were free to strike me.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, there was a gauntlet you had to go through. Well,
you walk through town.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's exactly right. Yeah, so you stayed on the straight
and the arrow. You got a little taste.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, there's something to be said for that though. Now
the counter argument to that is you can't count on
all adults to be reasonable. Some of them are nuts. Yes,
So you can't just have that policy where you're like, well,
any adult can discipline my child. Some of them are crazy. Yeah,
So it depends on the adult, doesn't.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
It It does, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yes, it does.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Yeah, another text here, it's wild.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
This is even a question.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
He did what any responsible adult present should have done.
And it's not like he scolded the child, which the
parents should have done one hundred percent not and be
pull Yeah, well I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I mean what he did was very mild. I mean
he simply reached down and just lid the cake out
of arms reach of the child. He didn't say anything
to the kid, he didn't swat.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
The kid, he didn't pick up the kid and move
the kid. Nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
He didn't pick up the kid by the ankles and
hold his face into the cake until he stopped squirming,
and then just toss the kid down and went there
you go. Let me learn, right, something that could have happened. Yeah,
I mean we've all been there, right am. I the
only one who's as a child had an adult put
their hand on the back of my head and hold
my face into a cake until I stop moving.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Surely that's normal, right, right?
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Okay, Oh my gosh, I got another one here, give
me one more. If I thought they were okay with
the kid contaminating the cake, I would just say I'm
cutting my piece now before he contaminates the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
If they try to tell me.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
No, I would leave immediately on principle and consider leaving
my partner.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's clearly a family of animals.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay, so you're gonna get your own slice, yeah, before
it's contaminated. You're gonna do this on principle? Well leave
if they say no, principle Yeah, I like that taking
a principle stand, I got you, okay, and then you know,
dismiss them as animals and abandon the whole family and
break up with a girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah. I like this. Texter.
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Speaker 2 (09:16):
If you text into the show and ask a question,
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Speaker 5 (09:24):
For it, You for it, You ask for it, and
now you're gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Pull or text your questions to the show and perhaps,
just perhaps we will use your question on the air.
I'd like to say we're gonna help you out with
whatever your situation is, but let's be honest, we're probably
just gonna make it worse. Studio and text lines are
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You can call us. You can text us at that number.
You can text us at three five sixty five to
one as well. Here is the question. Okay, my husband
and I are taking the kid's trick or treating this Friday,
so that's tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
What Yeah? Yeah, it was confusing to me as well.
So they have.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
A toddler here who has been asking every morning for
the last two weeks if it's trick and or treating day,
So we figured why not. We have provided candy to
a few friends and family that they can give to him.
Are we spoiling or confusing him? Or is it just
good fun? What say you again? Studio and text lines
(10:41):
are open. We're talking about a kid who's right around
the age of three or so. Is this harmless fun?
Is it spoilage? Will it confuse the child? Will it
potentially anger him when he gets a little older and
finds out that you took him trick or treating under
false pretenses? Will he spend the right rest of his
life describing this in therapy? NICKI, Drake, what do you
(11:03):
think here?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
That is interesting?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Sure, I mean, but all like kind of harmless fun, right, Okay? Yeah,
Howl's the.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Kid right around three?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Oh yeah, okay, time is nothing to a three year old.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It does not exist.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
So that's kind of neat.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I kind of go to probably not. No, I'm guessing
the answer to that is going to be no.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It is interesting because again, this is one of the
things I think you could make the argument that this
might be an opportunity to teach the kid about the calendar,
the calendar and time, how things work, and you know
the kind of waiting to go do things and looking
forward to it, and you know, the Japanese believe I
don't have to tell you, Nikki, I'm sure with the
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Japanese belief, oh sure, but they they believe that looking
forward to something is actually better than having it. Anticipation
joy of anticipation is actually better than having it. Okay,
perhaps you could introduce this three year old to these
Japanese concepts. At the very least, maybe it's an opportunity
to teach patients, Okay, you have to wait for things
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in life sometimes, you know, non instant gratification. Conversely, you
could make the argument that at the age of three,
you're right at the edge when your memories are starting
to form. Kid's probably not even gonna remember this right
honestly down there. I mean, if you think about your
first memory, the very first thing that you can ever
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remember in your life, it's generally around the age of three.
You don't really lodge a lot of memories prior to that.
So it's possible that this kid's not even locking in
memories yet. So one day when he's twenty, you can say, hey,
here's what we did when you were three. We took
your trick or treating in June, and he's going to say,
I have no memory of that at all. I had
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no idea that happened right, or you know, maybe he
will lock it in and the rest of his life.
Can't use a calendar eight eight eight seven seven seven
sixty six forty Studio text line. You can also text
us at three five sixty five to one. Is the
spoiling or confusing the kid? Is it harmless fun? Or again,
will you ruin his concept of time for the rest
(13:19):
of his life? What do you think you ask for?
It a text coming into the show with question from
a parent. They're going to take their toddler trick or
treating tomorrow. Of course it's fake trick or treating. They
have discussed this with the neighbors, supplied candy to those
neighbors so they're not burdened with having to purchase the
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candy for the child. They'll put a little costume on
the kid, go door to door and do their trick
or treating. And the question is this spoiling him? Is
it confusing him? Is this a good idea? Is it
just good, clean, harmless fun. That is the question we're
(14:01):
posing to you. Eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty
six forty. You can call us, you can text us.
You can also text us at three five sixty five
to one. Lots of reaction coming in on the etextual line.
Nikki Drake, would you like to field those texts?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I like this one.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Maybe he should have asked for Santa and would have
gotten to Christmases?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
You know what that is?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's an interesting question, right, What would you do if
he was like, when's Christmas?
Speaker 7 (14:25):
Right?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
When's Christmas gonna get here? Christmas?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Not time yet?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Right, not time? But would you go Christmas in July?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Oh right?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Yeah right? I mean throw the tree, tossed down, a
couple presents, here you go.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I guess I would say it's harmless, but at the
same time probably confusing because what happens when he gets
older and expects to go trigger treating twice a year.
How do you explain to the kid that there's only
one Halloween once a year.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, I think that's the danger you run if the
child is in fact old enough to start forming memories.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Yeah right, eight, Yeah, that is Yeah, that's what I
was saying.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Just be like, you know what, we wanted to do
something special for you. So that year there were two Halloweens,
but it was only for you, and you know.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Honey, It's like an eclipse. You know, it happens once.
It's not every year. Once in a while, there's an eclipse, right,
and we go to do a second trick and or treating.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Yeah, it needs to be viewed from the perspective of
the kid's whole life. If you're going to give him
immediate gratification for the rest of his life, that'll be
a problem. If this is just a one off, special
day sort of event, then enjoy it and don't worry
too much.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah that makes sense. Don't worry too much.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well, yeah, but are you viewing it from the perspective
of the whole life or aren't you?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
I would be like, oh, this is just going to
be cute for one one year, you know, Like yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
That's what I continue to maintain that you're walking a
dangerous line here, because God help you. If that kid's
memories are forming now, that kid is going to start
expecting two of these a year, So you.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Gotta hope rocking the line.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I think so, Yeah, I think so. This might be
a good opportunity to sit down and not only explain
the calendar, but also with the calendars based on you
see there's a solar system, and here's the sun okay,
and here's the Earth going around, and this is how
long it takes to go. And when it spends, it's
a day, and you know it goes around and that's
a year. And this is how it account may maybe
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too much for a three year.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Old, maybe too much?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Maybe too much that might be might be an especially
precocious three year old. Yeah, you never know. I saw
another text here Are they not concerned that he's going
to notice that there are no other kids around and
costumes doing any other trick or treating?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
He may not that what if he does?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Though?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
This is follow me on this. How funny is this?
How funny is this? Yeah, they put him in a costume,
they go out, he starts saying where are the other kids?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Where are the other kids? And they panic and then
they have.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
To go kid in a costume and get him out here.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
We're trying to fake trigger trading. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Let me just say, well, this is just for you.
This is a special Halloween.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Here's twenty bucks. Get your kid in a costume and
get him out of here. Help us out, all right?
Anything else before?
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Oh, yeah, there's a couple here. The thing about Halloween
is that it's only once a year. What makes it special?
Uh if you what makes it special if you start
doing it more often, because then it's not special, like
those morons who celebrate Christmas for three months.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well that's a fair point. It is a fair point,
because what makes something valuable is scarcity. Yeah, that's why
diamonds are valuable. That's why your very life is valuable
because it's short, right, right, So if you don't have scarcity,
you don't have value.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
That's a very good argument.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
But Christmas is also a season, not a day, and
I feel like Halloween is like a it's like a monthish,
I guess, like for the decorations, but it's still shorter
than that.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That's a fair point. Christmas season, that's a fair point.
Christmas is a season.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Yeah, this parent, there's a parent that is accident. I'm
assuming their parent. When you have a toddler, you'll do
anything to keep them quiet.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I'll tell you God, he screaming again. Quick, where's this
Dracula costume? Somebody just texted in a story and said,
this is what happens to impatient toddlers. Let's take a look.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
What in the world is going on? Don't giant freaks.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
These are all terrible ideas part of the family tradition.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Wow, just like that show Big Brother. Don't see that
on Animal Planet. To be honest, I've never seen such dysfunction.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
A passenger at an Italian airport, a Chinese national, was
set to board a flight when gatestaff informed her that
her bag exceeded the weight limit and additional fees would
be required. Passenger reacted, let's say, negatively, engaging in an
out burst described as quote a toddler style tantrum. Eyewitnesses,
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including airport police and airline personnel, observed the middle aged
woman rolling around on the floor, waving her arms and screaming.
At one point, she resorted to stomping her feet while
lying flat on the ground.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Oh yes, are we sure this wasn't like some interesting
form of yoga.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Ultimately, she was denied and was not allowed to board
the plane. They did book her on a later flight
after she had the opportunity to calm down. If I
calmed down, I'm going to assume that means tranquilized.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, here's the thing, this is not that uncommon anymore.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
This does happen fairly often.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You see adults throwing tantrums in public places all the time.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Yes, most recently graduation ceremony the right, right, Yeah, that
was happening for a while.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
You see people do it in drive through Yeah, in
stores if the credit cards declined or something, or they
won't return something, they'd just start kicking and screaming and
fall to the floor and start pounding their fists.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
And I mean, this is that's true.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
More and more becoming an issue, which is why I
believe we really should have access to more tranquilizer darts,
and I think that they should be issued to the
general public. And this could be handled in the same
way that people would make a citizens arrest. Oh really, Yeah,
you see somebody flailing around having a fit, being ridiculous
(20:40):
and you just clunk.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Do you have to announce that this is a citizen's
tranquilization and do you have to spell it before tranking
the person?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
I don't think. I don't think I have to.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You have that far round, okay, Just the same way
the police will say, Hey, if you don't calm down,
we're going to tase you. We're going to tase you.
You would be able to say, calm down, are you
know I'm gonna trank you.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I've got a.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Little something right here that's gonna calm you down a
little bit. Let me just go ahead and get this
loaded up. Yeah, and then, of course, you know you'd
have to provide your own butterfly net to throw over
them and then drag them away, your own zip ties
for their hands. Okay, you have either a pickup truck
with a big bed or a car with a nice
big trunk in it. There's a whole lot of stuff
that would really have to go along with this, but
(21:24):
at this point, just an idea.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
You know, you got to throw the ideas around.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
We're just would you prefer a truck bed or a
roomy trunk?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I personally would like a truck bed because then you
don't have to hear them back there.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
One.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'm yeah, Oh, I see, I hadn't thought that far ahead.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
The Jack and Nikki Show two w v a Q.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
This is the part of the show where we pick
your brain? Can you separate the art from the artist.
We stumbled into this about half an hour ago or so.
Kyle Wiggs was in here doing a sports update and
Nicki mentioned seeing Days of Blunder and Kyle said, I
won't watch.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
A Tom Cruise movie.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I hate him, And we were saying, what do you
mean you won't watch his Tom Cruise movie because you
hate him? He's like, I hate him. I think he's
he's weird. I don't like the way he lives his
personal life. I don't like anything about him. So I
can't stomach his movies. I can't watch his movies. Now,
this is a really interesting question, because you know, if
you're not gonna watch somebody's movies or TV shows or
(22:38):
listen to their music because you don't like them personally,
or they're maybe a bad person or just kind of
a strange person or whatever, yeah, you're gonna have to
cut a lot out of your life. Because a lot
of the people who make movies and TV shows and
music and art, stand up comedy and so on and
so forth are very flawed people who are pretty screwed
(22:59):
up and maybe are awful people.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, and a lot of them get star itis and
they become insufferable.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah, Thomson Gerer comes to mind.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So there are a lot of people that you're gonna
just have to mark off and not enjoy anything that
they do. So that is my question to you, guys,
are you able to do this or do you even
want to do this? Eight eight eight seven seven seven
sixty six forty You can call this. You could text
this there, you can text us at three five sixty
five to one. Let's begin with you, Nikki Drake. What's
(23:29):
your policy?
Speaker 7 (23:30):
I am pretty good about separating the artists from the
art except I have an exception.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Is it Chris Brown? It is Chris Brown? Somehow I
knew that.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
That One's really difficult for me. I mean, aunt Kanye
as well. Like I just I will start to like
feel the groove and then I'm reminded of all of
the horrible stuff and I'm like, oh man, that just
killed the vibe.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Yeah, So I have.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Well, Chris Brown putting this lapping sound effects in his songs.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
It's just it's weird that he would do that. Yeah,
it's a constant reminder, very strange.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Right, yeah, yeah, what about you?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well, this is interesting because I had to cross this
bridge with Michael Jackson in the nineties. Right, we all
know what Michael Jackson was accused of. Yeah, no, one
knows if he in fact did these things, right, it's
not looking good, No, it's not. And so a lot
of radio stations wouldn't play his music anymore. And he
kind of turned into this guy who was just ostracized
(24:38):
by society after having been the biggest star in the
planet for twenty.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Or thirty years.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And the problem, the problem is he's you know, he
made a lot of really good music.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
He's got a great catalog right.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Right, And Dave Chappelle used to be like, well, maybe
he's guilty of this, but he made thriller, right, you
know what I mean? So Okay, So I'm like, I
can still listen to Michael Jackson music because I don't
have to sit and think about what he may or
may not have done. And again, this we don't know, right,
So there's that. And if I'm being honest, I mean,
(25:13):
I'm a Prince fan.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Prince was a jerk.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I mean in his personal life, he was terrible to people. Yeah,
and everybody knows that.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But again, maybe it's the price of genius, you know,
I mean, he would well, because because madness goes hand
in hand with creativity, most really smart creative people are
also very quirky and very strange because it just goes
hand in hand. But there are stories like Prince in
the wintertime in Minneapolis would call somebody at three o'clock
in the morning and be like, I need two giraffes
(25:41):
at Paisley Park. What do you mean you need two
giraffeses three o'clock in the morning, and he would go,
that's your problem, click and hang up on him. Are like,
what a jerk? So there are things you have to overlook.
All right, let me go to the studio. Lines here,
Triple eight, Triple seven, sixty six forty you are on
the Jack and Nikki show, which you got ian.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Yeah, I completely understand where he's coming from, not with
Tom Cruise, but I absolutely despise Matthew McConaughey and I
cannot watch anything that he is in.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Why why do you hate him so much?
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Well?
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Number one is the way he talks just drives me crazy.
And then he is like extreme affection for the University
of Texas, you know, being a mountaineer fan that I
just don't like it. And I just don't think he's.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
A good actor.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
I think he plays the same role every single time.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Hm, Well, talk you think guy.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
You know, I just don't like it.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you this. I also don't think
he's as attractive as people think he is.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
I agree with that, Okay, okay, good, I don't think
everybody and.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
They say other actors and actresses that have worked with
him say he like absolutely reeks. He doesn't use the odorant.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I can see that. I can see that. Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
So for all of these reasons and more, you can't
bring yourself to watch on Matthew McConaughey movie. Right, yeah, now,
I will tell you this. Your dislike of him, the
though does spill over into his performances because you said
he plays the same character all the time and right,
so it's not just personal hatred for him.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
You don't like what he does either.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Well, that's true. Yeah, you're ready.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Now I want to watch more of his performances because
I think it will be impressive to watch his co
stars have to deal with the smell and act through it.
I didn't know he was one of the you know
actors on the list of I don't earn Theodorant list.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yea, yeah, naked bongo guy. Of course he's not wearing deodorant.
That's what he does. Yeah, I'll watch his movies to
announ see if you can see people flinching around it.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Yeah, okay, you got it. Thanks for the call, buddy.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, say it in as hard as well.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
No, T, don't you be and you
Speaker 3 (28:11):
M hm
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