April 21, 2025 • 29 mins
Jack and Nikki plead for sanity from the smoker commmunity, help a listener figure out if his girlfriend is cheating on him and discuss the new "F Around And Find Out" parenting trend.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
I was out and about yesterday, living my life here
in north central West Virginia, place that I love. Yes
and I saw some things. Oh, and I thought this
is going to have to be addressed on the radio,
and address it we will. Studio lines and text lines
are open. You can call us eight eight eight seven
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seven seven sixty six forty text us as well. And
I'm gonna pose this question. And I think if you're
actually doing this, you can answer the question. If you're
not doing it, you can pile on the people who
are doing it with scorn and ridicule and we can
use the power of shame to put a stop to it. Okay,
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So my question is for you people who throw down
your cigarette butts in front of stores, right at the
door on your way in some still smoldering, how do
you live with yourself?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That was a good question.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, I just want to know what is happening in
your life that you think that it's okay to smoke
cigarette right up until the door, and then just throw
it on the ground and walk off.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah, don't put it in the receptacle that is, you know,
designed specifically for cigarettes, right, not even stomping it out,
just letting it simmer there on yeah, the pavement.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, there are degrees I think of, let's say, inappropriate behavior,
all right, So just dropping it and not stomping it
out and walking in, that's that's the worst thing you
can do. Okay, Yeah, let's call it degrees of transgression.
So the worst transgression is just dropping it and walking
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in and just leaving it right there lying on the
sidewalk to smoke. Okay. Number two is dropping it, stepping
on it and walking in because you're still leaving it's
just not smoking anymore. Yes, Now, as you said, the
good people at many of these stores, they have trash
cans that are specifically built with a top on them
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for you to snuff out your cigarette. You put it out,
and then you can leave it there. Yeah, that's what
it's for, to keep the cigarette butts off the ground
and to give you a place to put out your cigarette.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Okay, So I don't know why you're doing this now.
I was at Kroger yesterday, I was on my way
in and I saw people doing this. And I've been
at other stores where I have walked through basically a
minefield of smoking discarded cigarette bites. And I'm always thinking
to myself, what is happening in your life that would
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allow you to behave this way? I mean, what is
the thought process there? I can't imagine doing that. I
can't imagine just right in front of the door where
people are coming and going, you just throw down your
cigarette butte and just walk in and leave it there.
I just think that's a really weird way to think.
And I would also suggest that you know you're if
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you're that careless about other people and you have that
little concern for other people, You're seeing that in other
ways too. Oh sure, you know the way you treat
other people inside this door, I think you're probably a
little self centered, a little bit rude. I mean, again,
this is speculation on my part, but I'm trying to
get inside the head of the person who does that.
And I will also add to this observation the people
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who spit in front of the doors or at gas pumps.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Dumps out there spit cup yep, yep, right there at
the pump while they're filling their tank.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's the same kind of thinking thing I'm pumping gas.
I'm just to take this cup of my spit and
just pour it out right here where people are standing,
where they're standing. No less, yep again, how do you
live with yourself? This is the question I'd really like
an answer. I don't think I'm gonna get one.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I don't think anybody's brave enough to call in and
be like, look, here's why.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'd love to hear that. Wouldn't you love for somebody
to call in and go he send it? Yeah, I smoke.
I like a cigarette between the car and the store.
I can't take it into the store. So what I
do is I fire it up in the car where
I'm in flavor country, and then I get a few
drags on that on my way to the door, and
then I throw it down and I say, the hell
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with the general Republic. If you don't like it, then
lump it.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
We are here to listen to all sides.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I know of this, so we want to know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Why that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So again, if you're guilty of this, I'd like to
hear the reasoning behind it. If you're not guilty of it,
and you want to call in and try to shame
people into stopping it, well we're up for that too.
So we have open studio and text lines here triple eight,
triple seven, sixty six forty looking for any possible explanation
that you'd like to offer. And for those of you
who aren't offering explanations or any type of a defense
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for this behavior, we're inviting you to call in and
just mercilessly attack these people to shame them into living
politely in a decent society. Nikki Drake, what are we
seeing on the text line?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I got a couple of texts here. Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I always say smokers are the most entitled and selfish
people ever. I hate when they just pop out their
smoke right in your face.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Okay, well, okay, just let me toss this in. Okay,
that's a fair point point you should take as a smoker,
at the very least, don't blow your smoke directly in
somebody's face.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yes, okay, agreed, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Okay, somebody just texted this little story in A guy
flicked a cigarette in front of Walmart. It landed on
my pants by my shoe, and there was it was
bunched up and burnt a hole in my pants.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I'm sorry, Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I shouldn't be laughing at that. Was this guy sitting
down in front of Walmart.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
His pants were bunched up at the ankle.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Oh, and so they landed in.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It landed in there? Oh yeah. Yeah. The timing of
that just had.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
To be like, is that the end of the text?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
What did he do? That's all he texted?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
You got it?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Did you say something to the smoke?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Question?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
What kind of a dance did you do trying to
put your pants out? I'd like to know that. Okay,
how long did it take?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Were you in the store and then you were like,
oh my gosh, I'm on fire, I'm smoldering.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Did you stop drop and rolling?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Did a stranger walk up and say, excuse me, sir,
your pants are on fire? Why? Thanks? That's quite a compliment.
I know I look good in these jeans, but I
didn't know they were fire. No, sir, literally, you are
on fire is what I'm trying to tell you. And
scene okay, okay, please continue.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
This is this one's great degenerates. That's it. It's the text.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
All right, very good.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
What do you have?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Jack? I am seeing this, says this text her. I
was sitting in the car waiting while my husband ran
into the store. I watched a woman throw a less
than half smoked cigarette on the ground as she walked
into the store, and a man picked it up and
smoked the rest of it. Wow, oh god, Oh this
is so much worse than I thought.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh my god, oh god.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Okay, text. And I don't think that people are thinking
too much about throwing a cigarette on the ground, as
you guys are. To them, it's just trash, and they
don't consider that people inside the store, that people are
walking through it have to smell that. Yeah, I agree
with you. I don't think they are thinking of it.
And that's why what we're doing right now, as far
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as I'm concerned, is a public service because we are
trying to draw attention to this. We're trying to let
you know, hey, if you're throwing down cigarettes, garbage of
any kind, your own spit right in the walkway where
people are coming and going in and out of stores,
give that a little more thought.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yes, please, that's what we're trying to do. I got
an update from Walmart fire pants.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Good, let's hear it all right?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yes, I said something to the smoker. Yes, I went
in and felt the burning, then smacked it out.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Walmart offered me free pair of pants.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So nice of them?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Wow? Unexpected. It's not even their fault.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Not even their fault. They stepped up. That's really a
nice thing that they did. So the good news is
it's a free pair of pants. The bad news they're
from Walmart. It's Jack and Nikky trying to make this
a better society for all of us as we plead
for some kind of sanity from the smoker community. Look,
smoke all you want, that's fine, Just don't throw your
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cigarette butts out right in front of the doors at
the grocery store where people are trying to go in
and out and purchase some groceries. Okay, that's all we're asking.
I think that's reasonable. Texts coming in here says this Texter.
You guys have made my morning putting down cigarette butts
and everything. It's spot on. I've grown up with smokers
as my dad and my ex husband, and I just
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don't understand what they're thinking.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, yeah, or not? Thinking. I'm sure I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
This is the whole point in the segment, what are
you thinking? What are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
We can't get an answer.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
All right, let me do another one here text humans
are filthy creatures.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's accurate, Thank you for me.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And finally, because we're talking about and I speculated earlier
when I brought this up, that there could be some
correlation people who are careless enough about their surroundings and
other people have that kind of a lack of concern
to the point where they'll just throw down their cigarettes
right in front of the door where people are walking.
They'll spit right now there. I suggested that maybe you
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can extrapolate from that and see that these people are
also not concerned about others in other aspects of their life.
And this texture agrees, saying, quote, this is the same
SOB that doesn't turn their high beams off. Yep, there
could be something to that. There could be something to that.
I think there's a growing number of people who are
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going through life with main character syndrome. Yes, they have
no concern for the people around them. They're just gonna
do whatever they're gonna do. I'm gonna drive with my
high beam lights on. Yep, I'm going to spit at
the gas pumps. I'm gonna throw out my cigarettes right
here at the door where people are walking. They don't care.
And again my concern is that number is increasing, and
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that's why the goal here this morning is to educate,
to get the word out. Hey, just show some consideration
for the people around you.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
That's all right, that's right, Nicklas, Why we're here?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
What do you have?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Let's see, I've got Oh, you were just talking about
spitting at the gas pumps, right and dumping the cups
out this text at the gas pumps. The guys that
chew are marking their territory. So dumping their cups out
at the gas pumps is marking their territory.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's really gooses. Yeah, I'll tell you what if I'm
sure you've looked out at some point and seen just
a great big splatter. Yeah, the tobacco spit literally right
where you're standing. And don't you look at that and go?
Could you not find another place to do this?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Any other place? We'll grow all right?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
This text came into taking extra steps to throw something
away in this economy.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Okay, you can't afford to do it. You just can't
can't afford to take three steps over and throw it
in the garbage. All right, I've got phones ringing here.
Anything you want to squeeze in before we go to
the calls.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's all I got right now.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So what you got? You were on the Jack and
Nikki Show. What do you have?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
So? Okay, long, long time ago, back in the day,
you know, you could smoke in the malls and whatever.
Somebody had threw their shoeing gum down and my sister,
my younger sister, had picked it up and started chewing it.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Wait, how old was your younger sister? How old was she?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
She was probably like seven?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh, okay, okay, that's kind of old line. Okay, three
would be totally acceptable. Twenty one would be absolutely unacceptable,
but seven kind of a gray area. I still have
some flavor left in it.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I don't know it was juicy free old then probably not?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
No, probably not all right, Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I had a good day.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
The Nerve Center of North Central West Virginia, Jack Loger
and Nikki Drake on one O two wv AQ.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's time now for another installment of you asked for it?
You see you asked for it. You have a topic
you would like discussed on the show, and we discuss it.
That's how you ask for it works studio lines open,
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Triple eight, Triple seven, sixty six forty. You can text
us as well, and that's what we have here this morning,
says this texter. You were talking about how riding your
motorcycle with Jessica is considered a couple thing for you.
I'm like that with my girlfriend and going to the movies,
that's our thing.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I found out she went to a matine the other
day with another guy, and I'm furious. A friend from
work saw her and texted me. She said, it's not
cheating because nothing happened and he is just a friend.
How do you think? Okay, well let's break it down.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Okay, all right, Nikki Drake.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Would you like to begin the breakdown or shall I.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Like obviously there was no conversation beforehand saying that, hey,
this is our thing, we should you know, if only
I would prefer if only we did this together and
no one else, because had that conversation taken place.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, I'm still thinking my way through this one.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I see that is Yeah, when you said obviously, there's
no conversation that has taken place.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Before the incident.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's not where I thought you were going. Okay, I
thought perhaps you were going to say there was no
conversation that took place before she went out with another
guy to say, Hey, I'm going to go to the
movies with.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Somebody that too.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, that seems like something that Okay, two things. I
find that a little bit suspicious that he didn't know
that it was happening. I think that's a that's suspicious.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Hand, Why didn't you mentioned, Hey, I'm going to the
movies with a friend on such and such date.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
We're going to see this, or hey, this friend.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Wants to go to the movies with me, and I
just want to make sure this isn't anything you wanted
to see with me, anything like that.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Like, how did that not come up?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, there could be a reason.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Uh oh, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
She could have been up to no good. I'm not
saying that she was, but that is one possible explanation.
Here's another question that I would have, is this person,
this man, is this a mutual friend of you guys
as a couple, or I mean, is this at least
somebody who is known to you? Or do you not
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even know who this guy is?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Okay, I think that that matters, That does matter.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, I think that's got to be factored in. I
would say this does not look good. Now. I don't
know for sure, because how could you? But it doesn't
look good. The optics are bad if you go off
like if you if one of Dave's friends texted him
and said, hey, I just saw Nikki the movies with
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some guy, and you talked to Dave and he didn't
even know who this guy was, and you didn't bother
telling Dave about this guy or your plan, how would
that land?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
That would be bad?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, right, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
That's true. Well you didn't mention it. Yeah, now okay.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I think there's some serious red flags here.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
M hm, you're right?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay, right, all right? Eight eight eight seven seven seven
sixty six forty or text us let's make quick work
of this, okay? Do you agree with our analysis here?
Are we missing anything? Are there other holes in the plot?
I mean, what are you? What are you thinking that
maybe we haven't caught this is what I want to know.
We'll come back, we'll put the wraps on it next.
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Oh no, all right, So if you're just joining us
text in here, guy's girlfriend went out to the movies
with another man, unbeknownst to him. He found out because
one of his buddies was there. Spotter sentem a text
is like, Hey, your girlfriend's here with some guy. He
doesn't know this man. This is not someone who is
a mutual friend to them as a couple. Sure, as
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is my understanding, she did not tell him that she
was going to go to the movies with anyone she
was going at all, that she was going with a
guy that he didn't know. She says, this guy's just
her buddy. We are seeing some interesting takes on the
textual line, as we often do. He Drake, would you
like to begin.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Okay, sure, let's see.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I don't think you should ever have to ask your
spouse to do anything, but not mentioning it to them
is very fishy. I would always mention it to them
and even invite them along if it was somebody of
the opposite sex.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Sure, Yeah, that's all reasonable.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, that sounds very reasonable.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, it's reasonable. It's not about asking for permission, it's
about letting somebody know, Hey, here are my plans. Here's
what I'm up to, right, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Okay, oh, this one was funny.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Maybe all three of them are just friends and they're
just a couple in the texter's head.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah. Now see that's the interesting take that I found entertaining.
So all three of them are friends. Yeah, he just
thinks that she's his girlfriend, and you know what, who
knows that could very well be. Maybe her reaction is,
what are you talking about? We're not dating, you're not
my boyfriend. But I mean, again, we don't know that.
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We're just kind of taking it at face value, right,
all right? What else you got?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
She cannot negotiate away your feelings.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
If her actions like going to the movies with someone
else upsets you, then she should respect your feelings enough
to apologize and not do that again.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
M h okay, yeah, I mean that's fine. But my
concern in this situation would be that she is interested
in this other guy and she's moving in that direction,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So yeah, I still find it weird that she didn't
even mention, hey, by the way, going to the movies,
this is what we're going to see that's who I'm
going with.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's the biggest red flag to me. It's like the
scenario I gave with you and Dave. You know that
would be a huge problem. And so let's say you
did that unbeknownst to Dave and then you apologize to
Dave because he's upset. Fine, but Dave now has to
go well, who is this man? And why is she
going out with him? And is she shifting away from
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me and toward him? Am I losing her? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
That's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's a whole thing. Yeah, it's a whole thing. I
would just say this our final thoughts to the Texter.
It doesn't look good. Yeah, I'm just going to say
that this is not encouraging the.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Jack and Nikki show on wv AQ.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's a trend. It's done blowed up. It's being discussed
all over America. Foffo parenting. The New York Post says,
fuffo parenting the way say is something that parents are
looking into. It's uh, let's say again for the gra
did fooled around and found out?
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You fool around, you find out. We all know what
we're talking about here. And here's the concept. It lets
kids face the natural consequences of their actions. Yeah, okay,
And I want to be very clear on this because
when I was digging around on this this morning looking
for more information, people seem to be confusing natural consequences
with imposed consequences. If you do this, the punishment is that.
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That's not the kind of consequence we're talking about. We're
talking about, hey, dummy, go ahead and put your hand
on the stove first. Kind of that's the natural consequence. Okay,
all right. As an example, in this story from the
New York Post, there's a parent who told a charming
story about how his kid got soaked after taking off
his rain jacket. And the dad was like, you don't
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want to do that. If you don't want to get wet,
don't take off your rain jacket. Because the kid was
running around and playing and he didn't want to wear
the jacket and then he ends up soaking. He's like, what, Yeah, dummy,
it's called a rain it for a reason. Okay. So
this is something that parents are doing. And I'm curious
about you guys as parents, if you are doing this
with your kids, or if your parents did this with you.
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Eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty six forty. You
can also text us with your thoughts. Let's begin with
our pal Nicky Drake.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
All right, my sister's doing this, okay, Yeah, so not
to like an extreme or anything, but she'll the if
her boys say something or start to do something, she'll
be like, hey, you don't want to do that, or hey,
please don't do that, and they'll ask why.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
She'll tell them why. And then if they choose to
move forward, if.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
There's a natural consequence, then there's a natural consequence. If
it is something dangerous, though, she will put a stop
to it, obviously.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Sure, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
She doesn't want them losing a finger or you know,
you see them cuting themselves.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Running around, laughing, playing with a kite near a cliff,
you don't just go, well, I guess if they follow
their death, they won't do that again. Yeah, of course,
this is all within reason.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Right, It's all it is. It's all within a reason,
because if they're not going to you know.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Take her word for it, and she's doesn't just say
because I said so.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
She gives them reasons.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I don't think any parents should ever say because I
said so.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I don't know either, that's not a reason it's it's
not a reason.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah. The only way you learn is to understand why.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And because I said so teaches you nothing. All That
used to drive me crazy when my mom would say that. So.
My dad was a big fo fo guy, all right,
that was his policy. He was just like, learn through experience.
And I always remember when I was in sixth grade,
I sat right beside the heater and I would burn
up in the wintertime. Mom would be throwing these giant, heavy,
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long sleeve shirts on me, and I would say, I
don't want to wear this. I'm burning up. And she
would say, you have a winter time you were in
a coat. And my dad would say, let the boy
wear a short sleeve shirt to school if that's what
he wants to do. And mom would say, but he'll cold,
and he said and if he is, then guess what.
He won't wear short sleeves anymore. Let him go and
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sit and be cold one day, if that's what happens,
and then the next day he'll go back to wearing
a long sleeve shirt. He'll learn, He'll just yeah, And
my mom said fine, and then she packed her bags
and got in her car and left town forever YEP.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That was it. Yeah, all because of your T shirts.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
But she was so concerned though about me being comfortable
at school. Sure, yeah, yeah, I think that's I think
that's what broke her. I think that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
So did you end up wearing T shirts or long sleeves?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I was kicked out of school eight seven seven seven
sixty six forty is the numbers can also tick on
that T shirt. No, I ended up wearing the short
sleeve shirts. I just because I sat beside the heater.
I knew where I was, and I had a coat
that I wore into school, and then you put the
coat in the back and then you sit beside the
heater with the short sleeves. It was fine. I was
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able to, you know, deal with my own temperature modulation
at a young age. It wasn't that hard to figure out.
But I like this natural consequences to your actions. Let
the kid find out. Where do you come in on this.
Let's talk about how you're raising your kids and how
your parents raised you. Maybe those are two very different things,
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because a lot of times they are you guys lighting
up the textual lines, and of course the studio line
remains open as well. God knows when you'll prove it.
If you'd like to call, you're more than welcome. But
in the meantime, many texts coming in talking about fuff
folk parenting, fool around and find out. I tried to
(24:39):
warn you little knuckleheads, and you wouldn't listen. So do
it yourself. See how it turns out for you. There
is a debate, and we're even seeing that on the
text line. Like I said, somebody texted in, Hey, this
is perfect parenting. This is exactly the way it should work.
There's no better way to learn to buy experience than
somebody texted and know it's lazy because instead of correct
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and the child, you're letting them suffer or get injured.
It's really stupid. So there you go, Nikki, that is
the take that we've seen so far. I know you
have some more texts coming in. I see I've apparently
shamed people into pilling in on the studio.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Oh you shamed them, you double shame.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
All right. Look, you called in and you chickened out
when I answered the phone. All right, So so call
back and let's just see where that goes. What are
you saying on the text line here, Nikki.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
It's not lazy. It's teaching kids the world doesn't cater
to them. Every action has a consequence, good or bad.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, that's right, that's exactly right. Yes, yeah, every action
does have a consequence, good or bad. I mean you
can you can make decisions and do things that turn
out quite well. You can have some pretty good results. Yes,
you can make some bad decisions, make some bad moves,
have bad results. Doesn't go well for you.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Right, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, I've got a longer text here. I have always
believed that this is a very common sense approach to parenting.
Instead of arguing with your child about wearing their jacket,
just let them learn on their own what happens when
you don't.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
You're cold.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
You would never do this if the child could be
seriously harmed, you wouldn't let the kid play in the street.
But if they are insistent on doing something benign, then
you have already warned them against. Why not just let
them learn the lesson for themselves. And this is how
adults in the real world learn.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, that's exactly right. This is what you and I
were talking about with your sister. She doesn't tells injure themselves.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
But yeah, she gives it a real world explanation to,
you know, to their level, and then you know they
choose to.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Listen or not.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well, I know when I was a kid, I would
walk into the house with a big nod on my
head and my dad would say, what happened? M Well,
you know I found a grapevine in the woods and
I was swinging on it and the limb fell off. Yeah,
and he would say, what did you learn? And that
was pretty much it? Yeah, I mean, because that is
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how you learn trial and error. And here's the thing
about growing up as a kid where you can do
trial and error. Okay, that helps you, as an adult
have the ability to look ahead and project scenarios that
you're considering in your life. You can envision things you know,
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you have the ability to map it out before you
ever do it. Well, if I do this, then this
is likely to happen. If I do that, you know,
you don't necessarily have to experience something to know if
it's going to be a good or a bad thing.
For example, Nikki, I could invite you to my house
to eat out of Penelope's litter box. Now, well, now
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would you have to do that to know that that's
going to be a bad experience for you, or do
you have the ability to just hear that and go, yeah,
that's not.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Going to work out, right, Yeah, that's not going to
work out.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That's going to be terrible for me. That's going to
taste awful, it's going to be awkward. Penelope is not
going to be happy. You know you can figure that out. Yeah, Well,
that's why, because you've had trial and error throughout your life,
you have the ability to look at things and figure
things out before you do them, because things that you
have done in the past have come back to bite you.
Mm hm. So if the only the only education you
(28:20):
have growing up is somebody just telling you do this,
don't do that, do this, don't do that, and you
never get burned.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
It doesn't sink in as much like the lesson just
doesn't embedded into your brain unless, like you got some
hands on failing experience.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
That's exactly right. Yeah, and I think about growing up.
I mean again, the stupid injuries, a lot of motorcycle injuries,
bicycle injury, running with the wolves, running with the wolves,
that's exactly right, all of the things that happened. But
you know what, you adjust from there, You adjust from there.
I remember one time I was upset and I was
crying when I was riding my motorcycle and I wrecked it.
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And what I learned was don't ride the motorcycle when
you're crying.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
See, it's as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Really, there you go.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
You learned.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
That's right, John, You're making too much sense this morning.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I gave people an opportunity to call in and participate.
They were cowards, they held up on us. They did
and what I learned. Wrap up the segment it's over,
and
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Tell
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
I was out and about yesterday, living my life here
in north central West Virginia, place that I love. Yes
and I saw some things. Oh, and I thought this
is going to have to be addressed on the radio,
and address it we will. Studio lines and text lines
are open. You can call us eight eight eight seven
(00:39):
seven seven sixty six forty text us as well. And
I'm gonna pose this question. And I think if you're
actually doing this, you can answer the question. If you're
not doing it, you can pile on the people who
are doing it with scorn and ridicule and we can
use the power of shame to put a stop to it. Okay,
(01:02):
So my question is for you people who throw down
your cigarette butts in front of stores, right at the
door on your way in some still smoldering, how do
you live with yourself?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That was a good question.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, I just want to know what is happening in
your life that you think that it's okay to smoke
cigarette right up until the door, and then just throw
it on the ground and walk off.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah, don't put it in the receptacle that is, you know,
designed specifically for cigarettes, right, not even stomping it out,
just letting it simmer there on yeah, the pavement.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, there are degrees I think of, let's say, inappropriate behavior,
all right, So just dropping it and not stomping it
out and walking in, that's that's the worst thing you
can do. Okay, Yeah, let's call it degrees of transgression.
So the worst transgression is just dropping it and walking
(02:07):
in and just leaving it right there lying on the
sidewalk to smoke. Okay. Number two is dropping it, stepping
on it and walking in because you're still leaving it's
just not smoking anymore. Yes, Now, as you said, the
good people at many of these stores, they have trash
cans that are specifically built with a top on them
(02:28):
for you to snuff out your cigarette. You put it out,
and then you can leave it there. Yeah, that's what
it's for, to keep the cigarette butts off the ground
and to give you a place to put out your cigarette.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Okay, So I don't know why you're doing this now.
I was at Kroger yesterday, I was on my way
in and I saw people doing this. And I've been
at other stores where I have walked through basically a
minefield of smoking discarded cigarette bites. And I'm always thinking
to myself, what is happening in your life that would
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allow you to behave this way? I mean, what is
the thought process there? I can't imagine doing that. I
can't imagine just right in front of the door where
people are coming and going, you just throw down your
cigarette butte and just walk in and leave it there.
I just think that's a really weird way to think.
And I would also suggest that you know you're if
(03:24):
you're that careless about other people and you have that
little concern for other people, You're seeing that in other
ways too. Oh sure, you know the way you treat
other people inside this door, I think you're probably a
little self centered, a little bit rude. I mean, again,
this is speculation on my part, but I'm trying to
get inside the head of the person who does that.
And I will also add to this observation the people
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who spit in front of the doors or at gas pumps.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Dumps out there spit cup yep, yep, right there at
the pump while they're filling their tank.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's the same kind of thinking thing I'm pumping gas.
I'm just to take this cup of my spit and
just pour it out right here where people are standing,
where they're standing. No less, yep again, how do you
live with yourself? This is the question I'd really like
an answer. I don't think I'm gonna get one.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I don't think anybody's brave enough to call in and
be like, look, here's why.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'd love to hear that. Wouldn't you love for somebody
to call in and go he send it? Yeah, I smoke.
I like a cigarette between the car and the store.
I can't take it into the store. So what I
do is I fire it up in the car where
I'm in flavor country, and then I get a few
drags on that on my way to the door, and
then I throw it down and I say, the hell
(04:40):
with the general Republic. If you don't like it, then
lump it.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
We are here to listen to all sides.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I know of this, so we want to know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Why that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So again, if you're guilty of this, I'd like to
hear the reasoning behind it. If you're not guilty of it,
and you want to call in and try to shame
people into stopping it, well we're up for that too.
So we have open studio and text lines here triple eight,
triple seven, sixty six forty looking for any possible explanation
that you'd like to offer. And for those of you
who aren't offering explanations or any type of a defense
(05:13):
for this behavior, we're inviting you to call in and
just mercilessly attack these people to shame them into living
politely in a decent society. Nikki Drake, what are we
seeing on the text line?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I got a couple of texts here. Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I always say smokers are the most entitled and selfish
people ever. I hate when they just pop out their
smoke right in your face.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Okay, well, okay, just let me toss this in. Okay,
that's a fair point point you should take as a smoker,
at the very least, don't blow your smoke directly in
somebody's face.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yes, okay, agreed, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Okay, somebody just texted this little story in A guy
flicked a cigarette in front of Walmart. It landed on
my pants by my shoe, and there was it was
bunched up and burnt a hole in my pants.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I'm sorry, Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I shouldn't be laughing at that. Was this guy sitting
down in front of Walmart.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
His pants were bunched up at the ankle.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Oh, and so they landed in.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It landed in there? Oh yeah. Yeah. The timing of
that just had.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
To be like, is that the end of the text?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
What did he do? That's all he texted?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
You got it?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Did you say something to the smoke?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Question?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
What kind of a dance did you do trying to
put your pants out? I'd like to know that. Okay,
how long did it take?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Were you in the store and then you were like,
oh my gosh, I'm on fire, I'm smoldering.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Did you stop drop and rolling?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Did a stranger walk up and say, excuse me, sir,
your pants are on fire? Why? Thanks? That's quite a compliment.
I know I look good in these jeans, but I
didn't know they were fire. No, sir, literally, you are
on fire is what I'm trying to tell you. And
scene okay, okay, please continue.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
This is this one's great degenerates. That's it. It's the text.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
All right, very good.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
What do you have?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Jack? I am seeing this, says this text her. I
was sitting in the car waiting while my husband ran
into the store. I watched a woman throw a less
than half smoked cigarette on the ground as she walked
into the store, and a man picked it up and
smoked the rest of it. Wow, oh god, Oh this
is so much worse than I thought.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh my god, oh god.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Okay, text. And I don't think that people are thinking
too much about throwing a cigarette on the ground, as
you guys are. To them, it's just trash, and they
don't consider that people inside the store, that people are
walking through it have to smell that. Yeah, I agree
with you. I don't think they are thinking of it.
And that's why what we're doing right now, as far
(07:54):
as I'm concerned, is a public service because we are
trying to draw attention to this. We're trying to let
you know, hey, if you're throwing down cigarettes, garbage of
any kind, your own spit right in the walkway where
people are coming and going in and out of stores,
give that a little more thought.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yes, please, that's what we're trying to do. I got
an update from Walmart fire pants.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Good, let's hear it all right?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yes, I said something to the smoker. Yes, I went
in and felt the burning, then smacked it out.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Walmart offered me free pair of pants.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So nice of them?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Wow? Unexpected. It's not even their fault.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Not even their fault. They stepped up. That's really a
nice thing that they did. So the good news is
it's a free pair of pants. The bad news they're
from Walmart. It's Jack and Nikky trying to make this
a better society for all of us as we plead
for some kind of sanity from the smoker community. Look,
smoke all you want, that's fine, Just don't throw your
(09:00):
cigarette butts out right in front of the doors at
the grocery store where people are trying to go in
and out and purchase some groceries. Okay, that's all we're asking.
I think that's reasonable. Texts coming in here says this Texter.
You guys have made my morning putting down cigarette butts
and everything. It's spot on. I've grown up with smokers
as my dad and my ex husband, and I just
(09:21):
don't understand what they're thinking.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, yeah, or not? Thinking. I'm sure I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
This is the whole point in the segment, what are
you thinking? What are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
We can't get an answer.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
All right, let me do another one here text humans
are filthy creatures.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's accurate, Thank you for me.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And finally, because we're talking about and I speculated earlier
when I brought this up, that there could be some
correlation people who are careless enough about their surroundings and
other people have that kind of a lack of concern
to the point where they'll just throw down their cigarettes
right in front of the door where people are walking.
They'll spit right now there. I suggested that maybe you
(10:03):
can extrapolate from that and see that these people are
also not concerned about others in other aspects of their life.
And this texture agrees, saying, quote, this is the same
SOB that doesn't turn their high beams off. Yep, there
could be something to that. There could be something to that.
I think there's a growing number of people who are
(10:26):
going through life with main character syndrome. Yes, they have
no concern for the people around them. They're just gonna
do whatever they're gonna do. I'm gonna drive with my
high beam lights on. Yep, I'm going to spit at
the gas pumps. I'm gonna throw out my cigarettes right
here at the door where people are walking. They don't care.
And again my concern is that number is increasing, and
(10:47):
that's why the goal here this morning is to educate,
to get the word out. Hey, just show some consideration
for the people around you.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
That's all right, that's right, Nicklas, Why we're here?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
What do you have?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Let's see, I've got Oh, you were just talking about
spitting at the gas pumps, right and dumping the cups
out this text at the gas pumps. The guys that
chew are marking their territory. So dumping their cups out
at the gas pumps is marking their territory.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's really gooses. Yeah, I'll tell you what if I'm
sure you've looked out at some point and seen just
a great big splatter. Yeah, the tobacco spit literally right
where you're standing. And don't you look at that and go?
Could you not find another place to do this?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Any other place? We'll grow all right?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
This text came into taking extra steps to throw something
away in this economy.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Okay, you can't afford to do it. You just can't
can't afford to take three steps over and throw it
in the garbage. All right, I've got phones ringing here.
Anything you want to squeeze in before we go to
the calls.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's all I got right now.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So what you got? You were on the Jack and
Nikki Show. What do you have?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
So? Okay, long, long time ago, back in the day,
you know, you could smoke in the malls and whatever.
Somebody had threw their shoeing gum down and my sister,
my younger sister, had picked it up and started chewing it.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Wait, how old was your younger sister? How old was she?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
She was probably like seven?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh, okay, okay, that's kind of old line. Okay, three
would be totally acceptable. Twenty one would be absolutely unacceptable,
but seven kind of a gray area. I still have
some flavor left in it.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I don't know it was juicy free old then probably not?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
No, probably not all right, Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I had a good day.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
The Nerve Center of North Central West Virginia, Jack Loger
and Nikki Drake on one O two wv AQ.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's time now for another installment of you asked for it?
You see you asked for it. You have a topic
you would like discussed on the show, and we discuss it.
That's how you ask for it works studio lines open,
(13:14):
Triple eight, Triple seven, sixty six forty. You can text
us as well, and that's what we have here this morning,
says this texter. You were talking about how riding your
motorcycle with Jessica is considered a couple thing for you.
I'm like that with my girlfriend and going to the movies,
that's our thing.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I found out she went to a matine the other
day with another guy, and I'm furious. A friend from
work saw her and texted me. She said, it's not
cheating because nothing happened and he is just a friend.
How do you think? Okay, well let's break it down.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Okay, all right, Nikki Drake.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Would you like to begin the breakdown or shall I.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Like obviously there was no conversation beforehand saying that, hey,
this is our thing, we should you know, if only
I would prefer if only we did this together and
no one else, because had that conversation taken place.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, I'm still thinking my way through this one.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I see that is Yeah, when you said obviously, there's
no conversation that has taken place.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Before the incident.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's not where I thought you were going. Okay, I
thought perhaps you were going to say there was no
conversation that took place before she went out with another
guy to say, Hey, I'm going to go to the
movies with.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Somebody that too.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, that seems like something that Okay, two things. I
find that a little bit suspicious that he didn't know
that it was happening. I think that's a that's suspicious.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Hand, Why didn't you mentioned, Hey, I'm going to the
movies with a friend on such and such date.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
We're going to see this, or hey, this friend.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Wants to go to the movies with me, and I
just want to make sure this isn't anything you wanted
to see with me, anything like that.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Like, how did that not come up?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, there could be a reason.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Uh oh, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
She could have been up to no good. I'm not
saying that she was, but that is one possible explanation.
Here's another question that I would have, is this person,
this man, is this a mutual friend of you guys
as a couple, or I mean, is this at least
somebody who is known to you? Or do you not
(15:35):
even know who this guy is?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Okay, I think that that matters, That does matter.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, I think that's got to be factored in. I
would say this does not look good. Now. I don't
know for sure, because how could you? But it doesn't
look good. The optics are bad if you go off
like if you if one of Dave's friends texted him
and said, hey, I just saw Nikki the movies with
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some guy, and you talked to Dave and he didn't
even know who this guy was, and you didn't bother
telling Dave about this guy or your plan, how would
that land?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
That would be bad?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, right, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
That's true. Well you didn't mention it. Yeah, now okay.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I think there's some serious red flags here.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
M hm, you're right?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay, right, all right? Eight eight eight seven seven seven
sixty six forty or text us let's make quick work
of this, okay? Do you agree with our analysis here?
Are we missing anything? Are there other holes in the plot?
I mean, what are you? What are you thinking that
maybe we haven't caught this is what I want to know.
We'll come back, we'll put the wraps on it next.
(16:44):
Oh no, all right, So if you're just joining us
text in here, guy's girlfriend went out to the movies
with another man, unbeknownst to him. He found out because
one of his buddies was there. Spotter sentem a text
is like, Hey, your girlfriend's here with some guy. He
doesn't know this man. This is not someone who is
a mutual friend to them as a couple. Sure, as
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is my understanding, she did not tell him that she
was going to go to the movies with anyone she
was going at all, that she was going with a
guy that he didn't know. She says, this guy's just
her buddy. We are seeing some interesting takes on the
textual line, as we often do. He Drake, would you
like to begin.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Okay, sure, let's see.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I don't think you should ever have to ask your
spouse to do anything, but not mentioning it to them
is very fishy. I would always mention it to them
and even invite them along if it was somebody of
the opposite sex.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Sure, Yeah, that's all reasonable.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, that sounds very reasonable.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, it's reasonable. It's not about asking for permission, it's
about letting somebody know, Hey, here are my plans. Here's
what I'm up to, right, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Okay, oh, this one was funny.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Maybe all three of them are just friends and they're
just a couple in the texter's head.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah. Now see that's the interesting take that I found entertaining.
So all three of them are friends. Yeah, he just
thinks that she's his girlfriend, and you know what, who
knows that could very well be. Maybe her reaction is,
what are you talking about? We're not dating, you're not
my boyfriend. But I mean, again, we don't know that.
(18:27):
We're just kind of taking it at face value, right,
all right? What else you got?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
She cannot negotiate away your feelings.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
If her actions like going to the movies with someone
else upsets you, then she should respect your feelings enough
to apologize and not do that again.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
M h okay, yeah, I mean that's fine. But my
concern in this situation would be that she is interested
in this other guy and she's moving in that direction,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So yeah, I still find it weird that she didn't
even mention, hey, by the way, going to the movies,
this is what we're going to see that's who I'm
going with.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's the biggest red flag to me. It's like the
scenario I gave with you and Dave. You know that
would be a huge problem. And so let's say you
did that unbeknownst to Dave and then you apologize to
Dave because he's upset. Fine, but Dave now has to
go well, who is this man? And why is she
going out with him? And is she shifting away from
(19:22):
me and toward him? Am I losing her? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
That's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's a whole thing. Yeah, it's a whole thing. I
would just say this our final thoughts to the Texter.
It doesn't look good. Yeah, I'm just going to say
that this is not encouraging the.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Jack and Nikki show on wv AQ.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's a trend. It's done blowed up. It's being discussed
all over America. Foffo parenting. The New York Post says,
fuffo parenting the way say is something that parents are
looking into. It's uh, let's say again for the gra
did fooled around and found out?
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You fool around, you find out. We all know what
we're talking about here. And here's the concept. It lets
kids face the natural consequences of their actions. Yeah, okay,
And I want to be very clear on this because
when I was digging around on this this morning looking
for more information, people seem to be confusing natural consequences
with imposed consequences. If you do this, the punishment is that.
(20:27):
That's not the kind of consequence we're talking about. We're
talking about, hey, dummy, go ahead and put your hand
on the stove first. Kind of that's the natural consequence. Okay,
all right. As an example, in this story from the
New York Post, there's a parent who told a charming
story about how his kid got soaked after taking off
his rain jacket. And the dad was like, you don't
(20:49):
want to do that. If you don't want to get wet,
don't take off your rain jacket. Because the kid was
running around and playing and he didn't want to wear
the jacket and then he ends up soaking. He's like, what, Yeah, dummy,
it's called a rain it for a reason. Okay. So
this is something that parents are doing. And I'm curious
about you guys as parents, if you are doing this
with your kids, or if your parents did this with you.
(21:11):
Eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty six forty. You
can also text us with your thoughts. Let's begin with
our pal Nicky Drake.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
All right, my sister's doing this, okay, Yeah, so not
to like an extreme or anything, but she'll the if
her boys say something or start to do something, she'll
be like, hey, you don't want to do that, or hey,
please don't do that, and they'll ask why.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
She'll tell them why. And then if they choose to
move forward, if.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
There's a natural consequence, then there's a natural consequence. If
it is something dangerous, though, she will put a stop
to it, obviously.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Sure, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
She doesn't want them losing a finger or you know,
you see them cuting themselves.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Running around, laughing, playing with a kite near a cliff,
you don't just go, well, I guess if they follow
their death, they won't do that again. Yeah, of course,
this is all within reason.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Right, It's all it is. It's all within a reason,
because if they're not going to you know.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Take her word for it, and she's doesn't just say
because I said so.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
She gives them reasons.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I don't think any parents should ever say because I
said so.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I don't know either, that's not a reason it's it's
not a reason.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah. The only way you learn is to understand why.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And because I said so teaches you nothing. All That
used to drive me crazy when my mom would say that. So.
My dad was a big fo fo guy, all right,
that was his policy. He was just like, learn through experience.
And I always remember when I was in sixth grade,
I sat right beside the heater and I would burn
up in the wintertime. Mom would be throwing these giant, heavy,
(22:45):
long sleeve shirts on me, and I would say, I
don't want to wear this. I'm burning up. And she
would say, you have a winter time you were in
a coat. And my dad would say, let the boy
wear a short sleeve shirt to school if that's what
he wants to do. And mom would say, but he'll cold,
and he said and if he is, then guess what.
He won't wear short sleeves anymore. Let him go and
(23:07):
sit and be cold one day, if that's what happens,
and then the next day he'll go back to wearing
a long sleeve shirt. He'll learn, He'll just yeah, And
my mom said fine, and then she packed her bags
and got in her car and left town forever YEP.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That was it. Yeah, all because of your T shirts.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
But she was so concerned though about me being comfortable
at school. Sure, yeah, yeah, I think that's I think
that's what broke her. I think that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
So did you end up wearing T shirts or long sleeves?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I was kicked out of school eight seven seven seven
sixty six forty is the numbers can also tick on
that T shirt. No, I ended up wearing the short
sleeve shirts. I just because I sat beside the heater.
I knew where I was, and I had a coat
that I wore into school, and then you put the
coat in the back and then you sit beside the
heater with the short sleeves. It was fine. I was
(23:54):
able to, you know, deal with my own temperature modulation
at a young age. It wasn't that hard to figure out.
But I like this natural consequences to your actions. Let
the kid find out. Where do you come in on this.
Let's talk about how you're raising your kids and how
your parents raised you. Maybe those are two very different things,
(24:17):
because a lot of times they are you guys lighting
up the textual lines, and of course the studio line
remains open as well. God knows when you'll prove it.
If you'd like to call, you're more than welcome. But
in the meantime, many texts coming in talking about fuff
folk parenting, fool around and find out. I tried to
(24:39):
warn you little knuckleheads, and you wouldn't listen. So do
it yourself. See how it turns out for you. There
is a debate, and we're even seeing that on the
text line. Like I said, somebody texted in, Hey, this
is perfect parenting. This is exactly the way it should work.
There's no better way to learn to buy experience than
somebody texted and know it's lazy because instead of correct
(25:00):
and the child, you're letting them suffer or get injured.
It's really stupid. So there you go, Nikki, that is
the take that we've seen so far. I know you
have some more texts coming in. I see I've apparently
shamed people into pilling in on the studio.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Oh you shamed them, you double shame.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
All right. Look, you called in and you chickened out
when I answered the phone. All right, So so call
back and let's just see where that goes. What are
you saying on the text line here, Nikki.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
It's not lazy. It's teaching kids the world doesn't cater
to them. Every action has a consequence, good or bad.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, that's right, that's exactly right. Yes, yeah, every action
does have a consequence, good or bad. I mean you
can you can make decisions and do things that turn
out quite well. You can have some pretty good results. Yes,
you can make some bad decisions, make some bad moves,
have bad results. Doesn't go well for you.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Right, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, I've got a longer text here. I have always
believed that this is a very common sense approach to parenting.
Instead of arguing with your child about wearing their jacket,
just let them learn on their own what happens when
you don't.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
You're cold.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
You would never do this if the child could be
seriously harmed, you wouldn't let the kid play in the street.
But if they are insistent on doing something benign, then
you have already warned them against. Why not just let
them learn the lesson for themselves. And this is how
adults in the real world learn.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, that's exactly right. This is what you and I
were talking about with your sister. She doesn't tells injure themselves.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
But yeah, she gives it a real world explanation to,
you know, to their level, and then you know they
choose to.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Listen or not.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well, I know when I was a kid, I would
walk into the house with a big nod on my
head and my dad would say, what happened? M Well,
you know I found a grapevine in the woods and
I was swinging on it and the limb fell off. Yeah,
and he would say, what did you learn? And that
was pretty much it? Yeah, I mean, because that is
(27:02):
how you learn trial and error. And here's the thing
about growing up as a kid where you can do
trial and error. Okay, that helps you, as an adult
have the ability to look ahead and project scenarios that
you're considering in your life. You can envision things you know,
(27:23):
you have the ability to map it out before you
ever do it. Well, if I do this, then this
is likely to happen. If I do that, you know,
you don't necessarily have to experience something to know if
it's going to be a good or a bad thing.
For example, Nikki, I could invite you to my house
to eat out of Penelope's litter box. Now, well, now
(27:45):
would you have to do that to know that that's
going to be a bad experience for you, or do
you have the ability to just hear that and go, yeah,
that's not.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Going to work out, right, Yeah, that's not going to
work out.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That's going to be terrible for me. That's going to
taste awful, it's going to be awkward. Penelope is not
going to be happy. You know you can figure that out. Yeah, Well,
that's why, because you've had trial and error throughout your life,
you have the ability to look at things and figure
things out before you do them, because things that you
have done in the past have come back to bite you.
Mm hm. So if the only the only education you
(28:20):
have growing up is somebody just telling you do this,
don't do that, do this, don't do that, and you
never get burned.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
It doesn't sink in as much like the lesson just
doesn't embedded into your brain unless, like you got some
hands on failing experience.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
That's exactly right. Yeah, and I think about growing up.
I mean again, the stupid injuries, a lot of motorcycle injuries,
bicycle injury, running with the wolves, running with the wolves,
that's exactly right, all of the things that happened. But
you know what, you adjust from there, You adjust from there.
I remember one time I was upset and I was
crying when I was riding my motorcycle and I wrecked it.
(28:56):
And what I learned was don't ride the motorcycle when
you're crying.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
See, it's as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Really, there you go.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
You learned.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
That's right, John, You're making too much sense this morning.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I gave people an opportunity to call in and participate.
They were cowards, they held up on us. They did
and what I learned. Wrap up the segment it's over,
and
Speaker 1 (29:23):
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