January 6, 2025 • 25 mins
Jack was minding his own business at a store in Braxton County when a woman approached him with a story of a disastrous date. Desperate for material, Jack rushed back to the studio to turn this chance encounter into radio gold! Later, Jack and Nikki help troubled listeners find their way to peace with another round of Judge Your Grudge!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Join Jack and Nicky live weekday mornings from six to
ten on one O two WVAQ.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Time to get awkward up in here. Now, you know
how much we enjoy awkward situations. I thrive on it.
I love the awkwardness.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yes you do.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I do, even if it's at my own expense. If
I go places, if I'm incredibly awkward, I enjoy it.
It entertains me. Jessica not so much. But that's a
story for another time. Let's focus on this story. I
again was minding my own business over the weekend. Jessica
and I were out doing a little shopping, a little
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traveling around the state, enjoying the great state of West Virginia,
and this woman pulled me aside and she said, hey, listen,
I know he you are, and I'm familiar with the show,
and I have a story that I really have wanted
to tell you, but I haven't been able to just
kind of call in and tell you about it.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So I thought, hey, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Now's the time. I'm gonna tell you the story right now.
She said, I would love for you to tell this
story on the radio and see what people think. Fine,
So she says to me that she has a friend
who is perpetually unlucky in love. This woman just runs
into problems all the time with guys, just falls apart,
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just crumbles. And so she was trying to remedy that,
as you do by going on a dating app.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Okay, because I think we all sin.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, we all know that if you're looking for someone,
a good place to go is a dating app. That's
where you're gonna find a lot of winners, a lot
of honest people too.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh sure, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So this woman is right around forty years old, and
she hooked up with a guy she met on this
dating app who is forty years old. This woman lives
in Braxton County. Okay, this quote unquote man does not.
He's in the Charleston area. So they agreed to meet
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at a restaurant in Charleston.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Oh okay, sure, all right, public place, this is good her.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, So she gets in her car, she drives from
Braxton County, She drives down to Charleston, shows up at
the restaurant. She's waiting for this guy. He comes rolling
in on a bicycle and he's wearing a backpack.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Sorry, what to a date?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
What a forty year old man shows up on a
bicycle wearing a backpack? Oh but wait? He sat down
at the table, opened his backpack and took out a
dozen action figures that he then placed in a line
in front of him on the table.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
This sounds fake. This sounds so fake. How did this happen?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Who would make up a story like this?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I know?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, this woman is flabbergasted. So she's sitting there and
so he opens his backpack. So I said, ow, iron
Man goes here, and there's Batman and then Superman, and
we'll put Wonder Woman over here. And he puts him
in a line in front of his plate. And then
she stays there through this. She doesn't just get up
and go it was nice to meet you, mister crazy person,
and drive off in her car. She continues with the date.
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I guess, just because she's polite.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
And at this point, where is it gonna go?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Right?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Right? Am I gonna be murdered by this guy? Wait
and find out?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
All right?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So she finishes the meal and at the end of
the meal, he starts putting his action figures away back
in his backpack, and he says to her, you're gonna
pay for all this, right?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Sorry?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
What?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And that's when she snapped, and she went like, okay,
that's it. No, I'm gonna pay for my meal. You
can pay for yours, and then we're gonna go our
separate ways, and I am never going to see you again.
And that's what happened. She paid for her part of
the meal, she got up and left. I don't know
if he paid for his part, if he even had
the money to pay for his part, if you spent
the night in the back washing dishes to pay for
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his party.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
He traded some of his action figures for the meal,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Seems unlikely he'd be willing to part with those, But
she said, She said to me, is this is this
the worst date that you've ever heard of? Have you
ever heard of anything more ridiculous to this? And I said,
I got to be honest with you. I don't think
I have.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
That is the most wild story.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh my gosh, Yes, yes, So studio lines are open
triple eight, triple seven, sixty six forty you can text
us as well. I'm just curious. First of all, let's
start with some analysis from you guys. What are thoughts
that you may have on this particular date, but more importantly,
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what kind of experiences have you had going out on dates? Anything?
And I'm not I'm not even going to ask you
to try to top that story because I don't know
that anyone can. I don't think I don't. I don't
think it's fair to you to say, well, top that
because I don't think you can. But if you can, great,
sure we'd love to hear that too. But I just
(05:08):
want to get some examples in here of some some
horror stories, some things that you experienced while dating eight
eight eight seven seven seven sixty six forty again, the
studio line, the textual line. I'd love to hear it. Okay,
let's see where this goes. I'm really hoping that we
get something that is at least competitive with that story.
(05:31):
So let's go to the studio line and find out
you were on the Jack and Nikki show. What you
got for us?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Oh my gosh, well, I've never actually called the radio.
I listened to you guys every morning.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Oh well, we're glad you called. Welcome.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Yes, thank you. I have a crazy tender story. Okay,
it's coming like years ago, but I let ten. We
started like not chatting, texting, and we ended up meeting up.
You're supposed to go to lunch, and then it ended
up turning into going to Blue Moose and I met
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him at the Mountain Layer and we walked from the
Mountain Lair at Blue Moose and I'm like, started all day.
I was a stucking at dinner date. And I order
a coffee and he doesn't pay, so I paid for
my coffee and we're sitting there. We're the only people
in Blue Moose, and then what I think is a
homeless woman like is sitting there staring at us. So
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she has this box and I go up to get
like a napkin or something, and she walks over with
this box and it says use maningerie ducky, like she
wants him to buy for me. I guess. He's like no,
thank you, and I'm like no thank you, and she
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kind of leaves and then we're walking around. It's like
not really, We're not like connecting or anything, and so
he goes back. I'm like, I'm gonna go go back
to my car. He walks into my car. He's asking
for a ride. I don't really like not vibing. I'm like, no,
that's okay. He picks me up, starts dancing with me.
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I don't know if he's like wanting to convince me
to give him a ride or something. It's maybe, I
don't know. People are like looking at us, it's weird.
And then he asks for myself. I'm like okay, and
he starts taking pictures of my feet and then he
starts taking pictures of our feet and it's just really weird.
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And then that was like it. I ran to my
friend's house. I was like, this is the craziest experience
I've ever out.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Of my life.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Oh my goodness, what is going on?
Speaker 6 (07:43):
He doesn't text me, I don't text him. A couple
of days go vibes and he texts me. He's like, hey,
can you send me those pictures? I like because of
our feet, And he's like yeah, I sent him to him.
I mean, like I was, and that was not and
it was just.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
A crazy.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Experience I think I've ever had dating wise, I deleted
the app another tender day. It was too wild.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Wow, okay, now let me ask you this let me
ask you this, and this is this is what I
asked the woman in the store in Braxton County who
told me about her friend. Was there any indication to
you at all when you were just talking to him
online that there was anything wrong with this guy? Was
there any way to get a read on this guy
at all? No red flags, nothing stood out to you. Okay.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
He was supposed to be going to be like getting
his doctor in medicine, probably pedietary. I me, yeah, he was.
We talked for weeks.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
He was so normal.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
He told me he looked taller than he actually was.
But maybe that was the only red flag.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, okay, But that's what's so interesting is you talked
for weeks and he held the crazy in for weeks. Yeah,
and then it came tumbling.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Out like I knew what he looks like.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, that's very interesting. Okay, okay. And then I have
to assume that after the date, he said, well, I
got to run down to the rail trail and do
some murdering. I'll catch up with you later. Yeah, that's wild. Well, listen, I.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Do one that happened to whether that was my.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
First question, like, is he profiting off of these photos.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
How many years ago has this been?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
This was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Maybe Okay, okay, well, look see if he's a pediatrist
now in the area. Go to his office and see
if he has those photos up in his lobby.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I know, the Nerve Center of North Central West Virginia.
Jack Loger and Nikki Drake on one O two w
V a Q.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Let's judge those grudges. Yeah, yes, okay, again, you're holding
a grudge. Should you be though? Is it legitimate? Should
you let it go? That is the question. Turn it
over to objective third party observers, and let's get this
sorted out. Nikki Drake, would you like to begin with grudge?
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The first? Police grudge?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
The first on the text line? Am I wrong for
holding a grudge against my sister? She ended up stealing
my boyfriend back when we were in college and they
ended up getting married. He became a lawyer, and now
she gets to stay at home and live a good life.
It wouldn't be so bad if she didn't flaunt his
money to me every holiday?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Okay, okay, So I would it not have mattered if
he'd not been as successful in life. Let's say he
flunked out of law school, ended up doing a lesser
job and made less money. Would that make it okay?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I think like even if he's still you know, became
the lawyer that he is allegedly and then but if
she didn't flaunt the money, I think it's the flaunting
of the money that hurts.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Do you think that's what I mean, that's what is
in the text. Well, I'm just going by what's presented.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Well yeah, yeah, but I mean, obviously, I think the
flaunting of the money probably is like tossing salt in
the wound. But I think even without the flaunting of
the money, the wound is still there.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Now I'd love to talk to this person because here's
where I think it matters. Information that we don't have.
When you say that he stole your boyfriend, were you
actually dating him at the time, like he was coming
over to the house or something and she took him
away from you, or had you guys split up and
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then she started dating him, you know what I mean?
Like the third question, right, those are different scenario, Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
They are, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Okay, Because if he was actually your boyfriend at the
time and then started cheating on you with her and
then ended up with her, then that is the definition
of stealing him. Yeah, but if you guys weren't together,
if you'd split up, and she was like, okay, well
he's available, he's back on the market, and you know
he's going to have a law degree. So I'm going
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to get in on this. So I don't know. I
think that's hard for me to make a judgment on
whether or not you should hang on to that grudge
until I know exactly what stealing the boyfriend means.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Okay, what about you?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Where would you come in on that?
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I mean, yeah, I've got some questions, some follow up questions.
But if I'm just going based on what's being presented, so.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You're gonna say, based on what's presented, you're going to
assume that they were dating at the time, and she
pulled him.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
And she pulled them Okay, yeah, yeah, and came in
stil the boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
I don't know, this is a tough one. I I've had.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Somebody seal a boyfriend out from under me before, but
like it was high school.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Look, I told you I was sorry about that. Okay,
I don't know why that keeps coming up. It's been
years let it go.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
So like I've let that go, you know, But if
it was something that was being thrown in my face
all the time, or flaunted or how you know, however
you want to word it like that would be I
think harder for.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Me to let go.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I'd also like to know how long ago this happened
and how long they've been married. Oh right, yeah, because
again we you know, there's a difference between I've had
a grudge for five years versus I've had a grudge
for twenty years. Sure, because I think there is a
shelf life on these grudges. At some point they should
burn out.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, yeah, right, So I think.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
We have a lot of missing pieces here, so I
can't make a decision on this one.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Okay, all right, so we need some help.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
We need some help. Studio lines ringing. Maybe that's our
person here. Okay, you were on the Jack and Nikki
showre you the one that sent the text in yack?
Speaker 6 (13:59):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, well then hang on, we'll get to you, sir.
You calm down, you calm down. We'll get to you,
all right. I'll tell you what, Nicky, Let's get a
judgment from you, and then we'll take the break. We'll
come back with this guy. Do you what do you
think you're Richard? Do you have a verdict? Are you gonna.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Have one yet? Let me reach out to the texter.
Let me see if I can.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Okay, all right, let's see yeah, all right, very good.
Well this has never happened in the history of Judge
Your Grudge, But we are going to have to pause
the judgment because we don't have enough information. We'll take
a break.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Oh, we've got it.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
First, find out what this is. A dude on the
studio lines got for us, and we'll continue Judge Your
Grudge the Jack and Nikki Show. Let's go to the
studio line Triple A, triple seven sixty six forty Judging
your Grudge. We've hit an impass here with our first grudge.
We don't know what she means exactly by stole some
type of Ross and Rachel situation right or you know there.
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We have a lot of questions we're trying to get
figured out. And Nicky texted her back and we're gonna
see if we can get the information we need to
reach a vertic.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh, oh, I got I just got a response.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, we'll hang on to that because we've got that
guy who called in, who I believe wants to comment
on this. We thought he had his own grudge, but
I think he wants to get in on this one. Okay,
is that right?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Go ahead, guys, I look at it this way, Jack.
How could you steal something, you know, steal somebody from
somebody if they really didn't want to stay with you
to start with.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Okay, I think I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Going to qualify this by saying he went with this chick,
so he must have not really wanted this other girl.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Okay, I'm going to counter this.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
What if they had only been together for like, you know,
a month, not enough maybe not enough time.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Like who knows?
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Uh? And the sister swooped in because it was early
on in the dating process, knowing that she could swipe
the boyfriend out because it hadn't been together that long.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
If the guy really wanted to be with the girl,
he would be with that girl. He wouldn't be with
the other one. I mean, I think that's the point
I'm trying to get across. Yeah, he probably was just
a player at the time.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
He was a player down.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
In between girls, and he just kind of ended up
with that one.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You know, well, I would. I think this guy's making
a fair point because I think back, like from the
day that I met Jessica, there's no pulling my attention
away from Jessica. Period. It wouldn't have matter. And anybody
came along I was I was not going to follow
anybody else.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Sure, that's what I was trying to say, Jack, all right,
I got just in around way.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's very good. All right, well sir,
thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
All right, Jack.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Bye. As a matter of fact, I will add to
that and further illustrate this man's point by revealing that
the day that I met Jessica, I was there for
another girl. I followed this other girl. I knew this
other girl that I was interested and was going to
be there, and so I went to this event, and
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I was waiting on the event to end, and I
was going to go over to that girl and turn
on the old Jack charm, end up being slapped and terested.
But the point being, Jessica sat down beside me, and
from the day she sat down beside me the first
time I ever talked to her, I've never been apart
from her in my whole life. From that day. And
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that just illustrates this guy's point, because if if I
was really interested in that girl I was pursuing, Jessica
would have had no impact on me. Sure, but it
was exactly the opposite. Sure, right, So I get it.
All right, Look, I know we got a response to that,
and I want to get to it here. Now we
don't know if our original text or if she's also
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married to somebody else. Now, I guess we didn't get
that information. Didn't think to ask if that man is
as successful as the previous boyfriend, and if he's not,
if that's constantly being thrown in his face and he's
being emasculated to be little. These are questions that we
also need to have answered. But Nikki, what have we
learned on the text line to follow up?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Okay, all right, we've got to follow up here.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
They were dating for about two years and yes, still
dating when the sister stole the boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Okay, so she and the friend we're dating, her sister
actively pursued and seduced and stole this man.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
M hmm, yeah, yep, from a two year relationship, and
this happened about six years ago. They've been married about
five so it was you know, yeah, all.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Right, okay, Now I did just say actively pursued and stole.
But see, now I don't know that that's the case,
because did her sister like actively try to seduce her
boyfriend in steel or did he just of his own
volition go, I'm going to go over here? Now?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Was he tiptoeing over right?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
In that matter?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Say something?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, in a in an ideal situation, I think in
a good situation, the sister would rebuff this guy. She'd say, no,
you're dating my sister. I can't be with you. And
then she would say to her sister, hey, your scumbag
boyfriend is hitting on me, and that would be that
he'd be stopped in its tracks right there. But with
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that said, there is a difference though, right between this
guy getting the wondering eye for the sister and he
pursues her, and the sister, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Tip toeing over, slinking over right.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Flirty, making little comments, little touch here, little touch there,
walks out of the shower wearing nothing. I didn't know
you were here, you know, that kind of thing. So
that those are different scenarios. So again I'm not sure. Yeah,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
If I have enough information, but we have some judgment
on the text line.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
They've been married five years though you say, yeah, okay,
well where's your judgment on this one? Could do you
have enough information to judge?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Now?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I mean I think I need to know who did
the stealing. I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I think that I would, But honestly, no, I'm going
to hold the gruge. I'd probably hold the grudge either way.
It's I think it's dirty. Either way, I would hold
the grudge longer if uh, I don't know, you know,
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I don't like I just listen, this is life. Sometimes
the grudge it's a gray area, right sometimes. Yeah, yeah,
it's not all black and white.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I don't think i'd be holding the grudge where like
I'm super angry constantly. But if she's going to be
at a family event and it's like an intimate family
event where there's only just like a few people, like
I'm not going, how.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Awkward for this guy to be at the house and
you've slept with everybody there?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Right too?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, I mean talk about awkward Thanksgiving dinner coming up
past the chicken. Don't make eye contact with me. Let's
just act like that didn't happen. What are you seeing
on the text line.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I'm seeing that I am a female and agree with
the guy who called you don't steal a person, they
leave or they go.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
All right, I tend to agree with that.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
And then another text here that be would be dead
to me.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Again, audience conflicted. Yeah, here's the thing though about you
don't steal a person, they leave or they go. Now,
if we take it and expand out to established relationships,
marriages and stuff, right, let's say Jessica left me for
another man. He didn't steal her. She decided to go.
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That's her decision to leave me and go with him,
as painful as that would be. Unless he kicked in
the door and tossed a bag over her and drove
off in a windowless van, then she's.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
No abduction happened, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Then that's on her. That's on anybody who cheats on
you or leaves you. That's their decision. It's not the
fault of the person they're with, it's it's it's on them.
So I think for that reason, I have to say,
gotta let it go.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Let it go?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Now, would I would agree that your sister could have
handled it better. The sister definitely could have. The sister
had scruples. I think probably the sister would have said, Hey,
this guy's coming on to me and he's your boyfriend.
I don't want any part of this, but the part
we're leaving out. He had money, so people are willing
to look the other way, and all bets are off.
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We have time for one more grudge. Let's take a
quick lookie lou Off. The textual line says, this texter,
my boss slept with my ex wife after we were divorced.
They hooked up and then she told me about it.
He wasn't going to say anything. Now I hate him. Okay,
(22:25):
is this a grudge that this person should be hanging
on to? First of all, not surprised the boss didn't
bother pointing that out to you, right, yeah, probably not
something you would bring up, especially in you know, like
your Monday morning sales meeting or something. I'd like to
go over these figures for the month. Let's talk about
our plan for this week, Johnson, I had relations with
(22:47):
your ex wife on Saturday. It was terrific. And now
let's go over to Kathleen for our presentation. Not something
you see very often, right right.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, I don't see that being a conversation to be
held during the Monday morning meeting. And Sam, oh, that's
this is interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, where are you coming on this? Wow? Yeah, because
I'm breaking it down by emotion and then of course
the rules of logic, which are sadly often two different things.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, the I mean, did you have a close friendship
with the boss?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Is that even part?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Is that even possible to have a close friendship with
the boss?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Because if if that was, I like, your boss was
your best man in the wedding, like, I don't, like,
I don't know that could that could complicate things?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Point, that's hilarious. I'm just gonna guess. No, Okay, I'm guessing.
I mean, I assume maybe that's information that would have
been shared.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
With is I would? I would?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I would a close, close, very close personal friend
of the family, right yeah. Okay. And it's awkward too,
because we all know that these friendships that we have
with our bosses, the power imbalance really makes it impossible
usually to be close legitimate friends in the way that
you would be with somebody else. Right, somebody literally has
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the power to destroy you.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
On a whim. Right, Yeah, it's hard to just be
buddies with him, right yeah, okay, but let me go
to you for your verdict, and then I'll toss in
my thoughts.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
I say, don't hold the grudge, say let it go,
let it go, because because at this point you're divorced,
I assume that. And they said this happened after the divorce,
so you have there's nothing there, Like, sure, feel a
little hurt or whatever you want to feel like, yeah,
feel the sting, but I mean, take a perfume bath
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and you'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay. Perfume bath solve a lot of problems. By the way,
I'm going to agree with you here, Nikki. I think
that yes, it's painful, and God knows you do not
want the man who signs your paycheck also having slept
with your wife. Yeah, oh God, does that put you
in a bad spot. But technically, if you were divorced,
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you're no longer together. He's available, she's available, you're no
longer in the picture. There's really technically no wrongdoing here.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Let it go, Let it go.
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Time to get awkward up in here. Now, you know
how much we enjoy awkward situations. I thrive on it.
I love the awkwardness.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yes you do.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I do, even if it's at my own expense. If
I go places, if I'm incredibly awkward, I enjoy it.
It entertains me. Jessica not so much. But that's a
story for another time. Let's focus on this story. I
again was minding my own business over the weekend. Jessica
and I were out doing a little shopping, a little
(00:50):
traveling around the state, enjoying the great state of West Virginia,
and this woman pulled me aside and she said, hey, listen,
I know he you are, and I'm familiar with the show,
and I have a story that I really have wanted
to tell you, but I haven't been able to just
kind of call in and tell you about it.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So I thought, hey, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Now's the time. I'm gonna tell you the story right now.
She said, I would love for you to tell this
story on the radio and see what people think. Fine,
So she says to me that she has a friend
who is perpetually unlucky in love. This woman just runs
into problems all the time with guys, just falls apart,
(01:30):
just crumbles. And so she was trying to remedy that,
as you do by going on a dating app.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Okay, because I think we all sin.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, we all know that if you're looking for someone,
a good place to go is a dating app. That's
where you're gonna find a lot of winners, a lot
of honest people too.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh sure, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So this woman is right around forty years old, and
she hooked up with a guy she met on this
dating app who is forty years old. This woman lives
in Braxton County. Okay, this quote unquote man does not.
He's in the Charleston area. So they agreed to meet
(02:10):
at a restaurant in Charleston.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Oh okay, sure, all right, public place, this is good her.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, So she gets in her car, she drives from
Braxton County, She drives down to Charleston, shows up at
the restaurant. She's waiting for this guy. He comes rolling
in on a bicycle and he's wearing a backpack.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Sorry, what to a date?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
What a forty year old man shows up on a
bicycle wearing a backpack? Oh but wait? He sat down
at the table, opened his backpack and took out a
dozen action figures that he then placed in a line
in front of him on the table.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
This sounds fake. This sounds so fake. How did this happen?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Who would make up a story like this?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I know?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, this woman is flabbergasted. So she's sitting there and
so he opens his backpack. So I said, ow, iron
Man goes here, and there's Batman and then Superman, and
we'll put Wonder Woman over here. And he puts him
in a line in front of his plate. And then
she stays there through this. She doesn't just get up
and go it was nice to meet you, mister crazy person,
and drive off in her car. She continues with the date.
(03:22):
I guess, just because she's polite.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
And at this point, where is it gonna go?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Right?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Right? Am I gonna be murdered by this guy? Wait
and find out?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
All right?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So she finishes the meal and at the end of
the meal, he starts putting his action figures away back
in his backpack, and he says to her, you're gonna
pay for all this, right?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Sorry?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
What?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And that's when she snapped, and she went like, okay,
that's it. No, I'm gonna pay for my meal. You
can pay for yours, and then we're gonna go our
separate ways, and I am never going to see you again.
And that's what happened. She paid for her part of
the meal, she got up and left. I don't know
if he paid for his part, if he even had
the money to pay for his part, if you spent
the night in the back washing dishes to pay for
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his party.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
He traded some of his action figures for the meal,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Seems unlikely he'd be willing to part with those, But
she said, She said to me, is this is this
the worst date that you've ever heard of? Have you
ever heard of anything more ridiculous to this? And I said,
I got to be honest with you. I don't think
I have.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
That is the most wild story.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh my gosh, Yes, yes, So studio lines are open
triple eight, triple seven, sixty six forty you can text
us as well. I'm just curious. First of all, let's
start with some analysis from you guys. What are thoughts
that you may have on this particular date, but more importantly,
(04:47):
what kind of experiences have you had going out on dates? Anything?
And I'm not I'm not even going to ask you
to try to top that story because I don't know
that anyone can. I don't think I don't. I don't
think it's fair to you to say, well, top that
because I don't think you can. But if you can, great,
sure we'd love to hear that too. But I just
(05:08):
want to get some examples in here of some some
horror stories, some things that you experienced while dating eight
eight eight seven seven seven sixty six forty again, the
studio line, the textual line. I'd love to hear it. Okay,
let's see where this goes. I'm really hoping that we
get something that is at least competitive with that story.
(05:31):
So let's go to the studio line and find out
you were on the Jack and Nikki show. What you
got for us?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Oh my gosh, well, I've never actually called the radio.
I listened to you guys every morning.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Oh well, we're glad you called. Welcome.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Yes, thank you. I have a crazy tender story. Okay,
it's coming like years ago, but I let ten. We
started like not chatting, texting, and we ended up meeting up.
You're supposed to go to lunch, and then it ended
up turning into going to Blue Moose and I met
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him at the Mountain Layer and we walked from the
Mountain Lair at Blue Moose and I'm like, started all day.
I was a stucking at dinner date. And I order
a coffee and he doesn't pay, so I paid for
my coffee and we're sitting there. We're the only people
in Blue Moose, and then what I think is a
homeless woman like is sitting there staring at us. So
(06:28):
she has this box and I go up to get
like a napkin or something, and she walks over with
this box and it says use maningerie ducky, like she
wants him to buy for me. I guess. He's like no,
thank you, and I'm like no thank you, and she
(06:50):
kind of leaves and then we're walking around. It's like
not really, We're not like connecting or anything, and so
he goes back. I'm like, I'm gonna go go back
to my car. He walks into my car. He's asking
for a ride. I don't really like not vibing. I'm like, no,
that's okay. He picks me up, starts dancing with me.
(07:11):
I don't know if he's like wanting to convince me
to give him a ride or something. It's maybe, I
don't know. People are like looking at us, it's weird.
And then he asks for myself. I'm like okay, and
he starts taking pictures of my feet and then he
starts taking pictures of our feet and it's just really weird.
(07:34):
And then that was like it. I ran to my
friend's house. I was like, this is the craziest experience
I've ever out.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Of my life.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Oh my goodness, what is going on?
Speaker 6 (07:43):
He doesn't text me, I don't text him. A couple
of days go vibes and he texts me. He's like, hey,
can you send me those pictures? I like because of
our feet, And he's like yeah, I sent him to him.
I mean, like I was, and that was not and
it was just.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
A crazy.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Experience I think I've ever had dating wise, I deleted
the app another tender day. It was too wild.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Wow, okay, now let me ask you this let me
ask you this, and this is this is what I
asked the woman in the store in Braxton County who
told me about her friend. Was there any indication to
you at all when you were just talking to him
online that there was anything wrong with this guy? Was
there any way to get a read on this guy
at all? No red flags, nothing stood out to you. Okay.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
He was supposed to be going to be like getting
his doctor in medicine, probably pedietary. I me, yeah, he was.
We talked for weeks.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
He was so normal.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
He told me he looked taller than he actually was.
But maybe that was the only red flag.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, okay, But that's what's so interesting is you talked
for weeks and he held the crazy in for weeks. Yeah,
and then it came tumbling.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Out like I knew what he looks like.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, that's very interesting. Okay, okay. And then I have
to assume that after the date, he said, well, I
got to run down to the rail trail and do
some murdering. I'll catch up with you later. Yeah, that's wild. Well, listen, I.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Do one that happened to whether that was my.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
First question, like, is he profiting off of these photos.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
How many years ago has this been?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
This was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Maybe Okay, okay, well, look see if he's a pediatrist
now in the area. Go to his office and see
if he has those photos up in his lobby.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I know, the Nerve Center of North Central West Virginia.
Jack Loger and Nikki Drake on one O two w
V a Q.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Let's judge those grudges. Yeah, yes, okay, again, you're holding
a grudge. Should you be though? Is it legitimate? Should
you let it go? That is the question. Turn it
over to objective third party observers, and let's get this
sorted out. Nikki Drake, would you like to begin with grudge?
(10:22):
The first? Police grudge?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
The first on the text line? Am I wrong for
holding a grudge against my sister? She ended up stealing
my boyfriend back when we were in college and they
ended up getting married. He became a lawyer, and now
she gets to stay at home and live a good life.
It wouldn't be so bad if she didn't flaunt his
money to me every holiday?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Okay, okay, So I would it not have mattered if
he'd not been as successful in life. Let's say he
flunked out of law school, ended up doing a lesser
job and made less money. Would that make it okay?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I think like even if he's still you know, became
the lawyer that he is allegedly and then but if
she didn't flaunt the money, I think it's the flaunting
of the money that hurts.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Do you think that's what I mean, that's what is
in the text. Well, I'm just going by what's presented.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Well yeah, yeah, but I mean, obviously, I think the
flaunting of the money probably is like tossing salt in
the wound. But I think even without the flaunting of
the money, the wound is still there.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Now I'd love to talk to this person because here's
where I think it matters. Information that we don't have.
When you say that he stole your boyfriend, were you
actually dating him at the time, like he was coming
over to the house or something and she took him
away from you, or had you guys split up and
(11:54):
then she started dating him, you know what I mean?
Like the third question, right, those are different scenario, Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
They are, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Okay, Because if he was actually your boyfriend at the
time and then started cheating on you with her and
then ended up with her, then that is the definition
of stealing him. Yeah, but if you guys weren't together,
if you'd split up, and she was like, okay, well
he's available, he's back on the market, and you know
he's going to have a law degree. So I'm going
(12:25):
to get in on this. So I don't know. I
think that's hard for me to make a judgment on
whether or not you should hang on to that grudge
until I know exactly what stealing the boyfriend means.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Okay, what about you?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Where would you come in on that?
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I mean, yeah, I've got some questions, some follow up questions.
But if I'm just going based on what's being presented, so.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You're gonna say, based on what's presented, you're going to
assume that they were dating at the time, and she
pulled him.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
And she pulled them Okay, yeah, yeah, and came in
stil the boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
I don't know, this is a tough one. I I've had.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Somebody seal a boyfriend out from under me before, but
like it was high school.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Look, I told you I was sorry about that. Okay,
I don't know why that keeps coming up. It's been
years let it go.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
So like I've let that go, you know, But if
it was something that was being thrown in my face
all the time, or flaunted or how you know, however
you want to word it like that would be I
think harder for.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Me to let go.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I'd also like to know how long ago this happened
and how long they've been married. Oh right, yeah, because
again we you know, there's a difference between I've had
a grudge for five years versus I've had a grudge
for twenty years. Sure, because I think there is a
shelf life on these grudges. At some point they should
burn out.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, yeah, right, So I think.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
We have a lot of missing pieces here, so I
can't make a decision on this one.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Okay, all right, so we need some help.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
We need some help. Studio lines ringing. Maybe that's our
person here. Okay, you were on the Jack and Nikki
showre you the one that sent the text in yack?
Speaker 6 (13:59):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, well then hang on, we'll get to you, sir.
You calm down, you calm down. We'll get to you,
all right. I'll tell you what, Nicky, Let's get a
judgment from you, and then we'll take the break. We'll
come back with this guy. Do you what do you
think you're Richard? Do you have a verdict? Are you gonna.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Have one yet? Let me reach out to the texter.
Let me see if I can.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Okay, all right, let's see yeah, all right, very good.
Well this has never happened in the history of Judge
Your Grudge, But we are going to have to pause
the judgment because we don't have enough information. We'll take
a break.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Oh, we've got it.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
First, find out what this is. A dude on the
studio lines got for us, and we'll continue Judge Your
Grudge the Jack and Nikki Show. Let's go to the
studio line Triple A, triple seven sixty six forty Judging
your Grudge. We've hit an impass here with our first grudge.
We don't know what she means exactly by stole some
type of Ross and Rachel situation right or you know there.
(14:50):
We have a lot of questions we're trying to get
figured out. And Nicky texted her back and we're gonna
see if we can get the information we need to
reach a vertic.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh, oh, I got I just got a response.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, we'll hang on to that because we've got that
guy who called in, who I believe wants to comment
on this. We thought he had his own grudge, but
I think he wants to get in on this one. Okay,
is that right?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Go ahead, guys, I look at it this way, Jack.
How could you steal something, you know, steal somebody from
somebody if they really didn't want to stay with you
to start with.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Okay, I think I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Going to qualify this by saying he went with this chick,
so he must have not really wanted this other girl.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Okay, I'm going to counter this.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
What if they had only been together for like, you know,
a month, not enough maybe not enough time.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Like who knows?
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Uh? And the sister swooped in because it was early
on in the dating process, knowing that she could swipe
the boyfriend out because it hadn't been together that long.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
If the guy really wanted to be with the girl,
he would be with that girl. He wouldn't be with
the other one. I mean, I think that's the point
I'm trying to get across. Yeah, he probably was just
a player at the time.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
He was a player down.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
In between girls, and he just kind of ended up
with that one.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You know, well, I would. I think this guy's making
a fair point because I think back, like from the
day that I met Jessica, there's no pulling my attention
away from Jessica. Period. It wouldn't have matter. And anybody
came along I was I was not going to follow
anybody else.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Sure, that's what I was trying to say, Jack, all right,
I got just in around way.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's very good. All right, well sir,
thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
All right, Jack.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Bye. As a matter of fact, I will add to
that and further illustrate this man's point by revealing that
the day that I met Jessica, I was there for
another girl. I followed this other girl. I knew this
other girl that I was interested and was going to
be there, and so I went to this event, and
(16:48):
I was waiting on the event to end, and I
was going to go over to that girl and turn
on the old Jack charm, end up being slapped and terested.
But the point being, Jessica sat down beside me, and
from the day she sat down beside me the first
time I ever talked to her, I've never been apart
from her in my whole life. From that day. And
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that just illustrates this guy's point, because if if I
was really interested in that girl I was pursuing, Jessica
would have had no impact on me. Sure, but it
was exactly the opposite. Sure, right, So I get it.
All right, Look, I know we got a response to that,
and I want to get to it here. Now we
don't know if our original text or if she's also
(17:30):
married to somebody else. Now, I guess we didn't get
that information. Didn't think to ask if that man is
as successful as the previous boyfriend, and if he's not,
if that's constantly being thrown in his face and he's
being emasculated to be little. These are questions that we
also need to have answered. But Nikki, what have we
learned on the text line to follow up?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Okay, all right, we've got to follow up here.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
They were dating for about two years and yes, still
dating when the sister stole the boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Okay, so she and the friend we're dating, her sister
actively pursued and seduced and stole this man.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
M hmm, yeah, yep, from a two year relationship, and
this happened about six years ago. They've been married about
five so it was you know, yeah, all.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Right, okay, Now I did just say actively pursued and stole.
But see, now I don't know that that's the case,
because did her sister like actively try to seduce her
boyfriend in steel or did he just of his own
volition go, I'm going to go over here? Now?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Was he tiptoeing over right?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
In that matter?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Say something?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, in a in an ideal situation, I think in
a good situation, the sister would rebuff this guy. She'd say, no,
you're dating my sister. I can't be with you. And
then she would say to her sister, hey, your scumbag
boyfriend is hitting on me, and that would be that
he'd be stopped in its tracks right there. But with
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that said, there is a difference though, right between this
guy getting the wondering eye for the sister and he
pursues her, and the sister, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Tip toeing over, slinking over right.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Flirty, making little comments, little touch here, little touch there,
walks out of the shower wearing nothing. I didn't know
you were here, you know, that kind of thing. So
that those are different scenarios. So again I'm not sure. Yeah,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
If I have enough information, but we have some judgment
on the text line.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
They've been married five years though you say, yeah, okay,
well where's your judgment on this one? Could do you
have enough information to judge?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Now?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I mean I think I need to know who did
the stealing. I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I think that I would, But honestly, no, I'm going
to hold the gruge. I'd probably hold the grudge either way.
It's I think it's dirty. Either way, I would hold
the grudge longer if uh, I don't know, you know,
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I don't like I just listen, this is life. Sometimes
the grudge it's a gray area, right sometimes. Yeah, yeah,
it's not all black and white.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I don't think i'd be holding the grudge where like
I'm super angry constantly. But if she's going to be
at a family event and it's like an intimate family
event where there's only just like a few people, like
I'm not going, how.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Awkward for this guy to be at the house and
you've slept with everybody there?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Right too?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, I mean talk about awkward Thanksgiving dinner coming up
past the chicken. Don't make eye contact with me. Let's
just act like that didn't happen. What are you seeing
on the text line.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I'm seeing that I am a female and agree with
the guy who called you don't steal a person, they
leave or they go.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
All right, I tend to agree with that.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
And then another text here that be would be dead
to me.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Again, audience conflicted. Yeah, here's the thing though about you
don't steal a person, they leave or they go. Now,
if we take it and expand out to established relationships,
marriages and stuff, right, let's say Jessica left me for
another man. He didn't steal her. She decided to go.
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That's her decision to leave me and go with him,
as painful as that would be. Unless he kicked in
the door and tossed a bag over her and drove
off in a windowless van, then she's.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
No abduction happened, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Then that's on her. That's on anybody who cheats on
you or leaves you. That's their decision. It's not the
fault of the person they're with, it's it's it's on them.
So I think for that reason, I have to say,
gotta let it go.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Let it go?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Now, would I would agree that your sister could have
handled it better. The sister definitely could have. The sister
had scruples. I think probably the sister would have said, Hey,
this guy's coming on to me and he's your boyfriend.
I don't want any part of this, but the part
we're leaving out. He had money, so people are willing
to look the other way, and all bets are off.
(22:03):
We have time for one more grudge. Let's take a
quick lookie lou Off. The textual line says, this texter,
my boss slept with my ex wife after we were divorced.
They hooked up and then she told me about it.
He wasn't going to say anything. Now I hate him. Okay,
(22:25):
is this a grudge that this person should be hanging
on to? First of all, not surprised the boss didn't
bother pointing that out to you, right, yeah, probably not
something you would bring up, especially in you know, like
your Monday morning sales meeting or something. I'd like to
go over these figures for the month. Let's talk about
our plan for this week, Johnson, I had relations with
(22:47):
your ex wife on Saturday. It was terrific. And now
let's go over to Kathleen for our presentation. Not something
you see very often, right right.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, I don't see that being a conversation to be
held during the Monday morning meeting. And Sam, oh, that's
this is interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, where are you coming on this? Wow? Yeah, because
I'm breaking it down by emotion and then of course
the rules of logic, which are sadly often two different things.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, the I mean, did you have a close friendship
with the boss?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Is that even part?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Is that even possible to have a close friendship with
the boss?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Because if if that was, I like, your boss was
your best man in the wedding, like, I don't, like,
I don't know that could that could complicate things?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Point, that's hilarious. I'm just gonna guess. No, Okay, I'm guessing.
I mean, I assume maybe that's information that would have
been shared.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
With is I would? I would?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I would a close, close, very close personal friend
of the family, right yeah. Okay. And it's awkward too,
because we all know that these friendships that we have
with our bosses, the power imbalance really makes it impossible
usually to be close legitimate friends in the way that
you would be with somebody else. Right, somebody literally has
(24:07):
the power to destroy you.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
On a whim. Right, Yeah, it's hard to just be
buddies with him, right yeah, okay, but let me go
to you for your verdict, and then I'll toss in
my thoughts.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
I say, don't hold the grudge, say let it go,
let it go, because because at this point you're divorced,
I assume that. And they said this happened after the divorce,
so you have there's nothing there, Like, sure, feel a
little hurt or whatever you want to feel like, yeah,
feel the sting, but I mean, take a perfume bath
(24:41):
and you'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay. Perfume bath solve a lot of problems. By the way,
I'm going to agree with you here, Nikki. I think
that yes, it's painful, and God knows you do not
want the man who signs your paycheck also having slept
with your wife. Yeah, oh God, does that put you
in a bad spot. But technically, if you were divorced,
(25:07):
you're no longer together. He's available, she's available, you're no
longer in the picture. There's really technically no wrongdoing here.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Let it go, Let it go.
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