July 14, 2025 • 29 mins
Jack and Nikki look at new research indicating that people prefer dogs over other people... including their own children, Jack reveals the "brain fart" that nearly cost him everything and they follow the clues a woman left on the internet to figure out if her husband is cheating.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you're listening to the Jack and Nikki Show podcast
everywhere you get your podcasts and at WBQ dot com.
Joined Jack and Nicky live weekday mornings from six to
ten on one O two WVAQ.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I know none of you would be surprised when I
say people like ed dogs shocking, but how much we
like dogs, well, that may surprise you. So I said
moments ago that we have the research here this morning
that some find shocking and unsettling.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I am shocked in unsettled.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yes, people love their dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
A recent study found that dogs outrank the humans in
relationships almost every time. Participants were asked to rate their
dogs and their human partners, best friend, and children their
own show chldren and dogs outperformed all of them.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Okay, I see that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Fortunately there was one exception, romantic partners. Okay, intimacy. The
dogs lost out there.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Ye too.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I'm glad to hear it. I'm very happy for that,
Thank god, thank god.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That was the one category where people went you know,
I think I prefer the human that I'm with too.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It suld have been very awkward, yeah, terribly.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Awkward and appropriate.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Researchers discovered that the dog human bond resembles parent child relationships,
but without the many negative interactions that often come with
parent child relationships, study author Iniko Kubinyi.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Oh he's good, Nikki. Yeah, yeah, he knows what he's
talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He said, quote. Dogs occupy a unique place in our
social world, offering the emotional closeness of a partner, the
he's of a best friend, and the carpet stains of
a small child.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So what I'd like to do.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Right now is open up the I love my dog
more than my children hotline. If you have the guts
to admit it eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty
six forty, you can call us. You can text us
at that number. You can also text us at three
five six five one who has the guts to just
admit it. Okay, you have a couple of kids and
(02:27):
you have a Golden Retriever or maybe a black lab
sure right, and you look at them and you go, yeah,
I like the dog better. If if you're willing to
admit that, then we have open studio lines for you,
or you can text and we can read it and
then let people think what they will.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, dogs are great. I mean there's no question.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
They are fantastic.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
They really are. And I'm trying not to bring cats
into this because we always do. Let's just trying to
focus on dogs. But again, I don't have kids, so
it's hard for me to compare and contrast, say a
black lab with you know, a five year old boy. Right,
But yeah, the people who have the people in this
research who have both children and dogs prefer their dogs.
(03:18):
I'm not, Oh God, that that can't be good for
the kid's self.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Esteem'd be totally honest right now.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
At one point, I went to visit my best friend,
my cousin, and she had recently birthed my goddaughter.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
They have had a Bassett Beagle mix. And while.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I love my goddaughter, but she was a tiny infant,
I probably spent more time with.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
The dog while I was visiting than.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I did with the baby.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Okay, well you got us off to a good star thing.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Again, I love my dog more than my children. Hotline
it is open for you, and let's just see if
anybody bites triple eight, triple seven, sixty six forty or
you can text us at that number. We're three five
sixty five to one. I don't think we're going to
any takers on this. I'd be shocked if anybody's willing
to admit it. Yeah, I mean, maybe admit it and
explain it. Come on, yeah, that's right, follow NICKI. Okay,
(04:12):
try to be as brave as Nicky for once in
your life. So we have the I love my dog
more than my children hotline wide open right now. We
are getting some reaction here on the text line. Some
of it is bewildering and even upsetting, says this text or.
I would totally call because I tell my kids all
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the time my boxer is my favorite child. But they're
in the car for school drop off, and I said,
I'd better not call. If you're going to make that
kind of a call to the show, you probably don't
want to do it in front of your kids, right
at the very least, do it behind their backs so
they don't know that while they are going about their day,
(04:55):
minding their own business, their own mom is on the
radio talking about how she prefers the family dog over them.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
What do you see here, NICKI, I'd love to shove
my kids back where they came from and adopt two
dogs per kid.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
See that's the one that I found very troubling. I
I don't know who would be up for shoving them
back from whence they came. That seems like a problem.
And I'm also I don't know who texted that, if
it's the mom or the dad, because some people choose to.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Have their children returned. Stop.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay, the Nerve Center of North Central West Virginia Jack
Loger and Nikki Drake on one O two WVQ.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Right now, a different kind of news update for you.
What kind of news would that be? Why?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
News that makes West Virginia look good? I have news
despite the fact that it makes me look pretty stupid.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
All right, here we go. This is what happened to
me on Saturday that I found quite shocking, even by
my own standards.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Okay, Okay, Jessica.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And I went out to dinner and a movie, and
after the motion picture, we decided to go over to
Longhorn Steakhouse in Bridgeport. Okay, Longhorn Steakhouse is what I'm indicating.
And it was the mid sixties kind of day. It was,
(06:39):
you know, comfortable enough outside that I had the window down,
you know, and we were in j Justica's four runner. Okay,
and so so turning on the air conditioning, I just
put the window down.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
We pull up.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I dropped Jessica off at the curb. She goes on
in to arrange for the table and so on and
so forth, and I go on around and park the vehicle.
So I parked the vehicle, I got out, I go in.
We wait, we get the table. The whole thing takes
probably an hour, okay, okay, an hour.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Later we walk out.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
We walk up to the Forerunner that has been sitting
in a busy parking lot, and we discover that I
left the driver side window completely rolled down, with my
wallet and my cell phone sitting on the console. Jack Booger, Yeah,
(07:29):
clearly visible and within arm's reach. I mean you could
easily lean in there and just pick it up and.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Walk away with it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
An hour in a busy parking lot, Yeah right there,
Longhorn Steakhouse. Now, I think that this is news that
makes West Virginia look good, because there aren't many places
you could do that and come back and it would.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Still be there.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Sure, so'm I mean my heart sunk as soon as
I walked up and saw the windows open, and Jessica said,
why is the window rolled down.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I was like, he tell why, tell the why.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I was like, at first, it surprised me because I
didn't remember doing it obviously, because you know, I had
a brain fart, so I just wasn't So I got
in and I thought, well, it's here, but maybe somebody
rifled through it. Maybe the cash is gone, maybe the
cards are gone. No, open up the wallet. All the
cash was in there, the credit card, the debit card, everything,
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you know, my phone sitting right there.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, okay, Jack Loger, how about that.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
That's fantastic news.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yes, I was spared.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
But also, how did you like when you go to
sit down and you're like, oh my, you know you
feel your wallet right?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
No, no, no, I don't care my wallet in my
back pocket because of the roundness of my firm, proud
buttocks makes it impossible for me to walk comfortably or
sit down because my buddy is so round.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
And yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Generally what we do is when we're going to go
in somewhere, if Jessica's going to take her purse, oh,
then yeah, then I don't bother having a wallet with me.
We don't, you know, we don't need it. Yeah, So
if we're going to like pop into a store or
something quickly, like run through let's say home depot or something.
Then maybe she'll leave her person the car. I'll take
the wall, you know, just whatever's convenient. But so that's
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how the wallet and the phone ended up in there.
And I look, I don't I'm shocked by how well
this worked out. But I thank God that we live
where we do, because there have also been times when
I have left my truck sitting in my driveway with
the keys in the ignition, and I've walked out the
next morning and be like, oh my god, my truck
(09:46):
was sitting at here all night with my keys in
it and my wallet, and I didn't even think about that, right,
But we we live in a place where you can
generally make those kinds of mistakes and not pay dearly
for them.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean my dad lived in an apartment in Cleveland,
and he would come out sometimes and wouldn't even have
a vehicle there. It would be he had a couple
of trucks stolen from him. Gosh, he bought one of
those what they used to make those bars that you
would put on your the club that you would put
on your steering wheel. Yeah, yeah, and so he thought, well,
that'll save it. And then he came out the next
(10:19):
morning and the only thing there was the club and
the steering wheel that was attached to the rest of
the vehicle's gone. Studio lines are open eight eight eight
seven seven, seven sixty six forty. You can also text
us at that number of three five sixty five to one.
What I'd like to do right now is a piece
I'm gonna call fun with cognitive decline. Nikki had the
story about brain farts and how they should be taken seriously,
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and it's basically your brain taking a mini nap, and
it's just kind of checking out for a few seconds
or minutes or whatever, and then you just do these
kinds of forgetful things.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It's like a little reboot, right.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So I guess when I parked the vehicle and I
was getting out, the brain was rebooting at that point,
and I just left the window down and all of
my stuff right on the console and just didn't even
think of it, right. I think what was on my
mind was Jessica was in there waiting, and she's trying
to move things along, and I'm trying to be considerate
(11:17):
for her. I don't want to leave her hanging. I'm like, well,
she's in there waiting on many to get in there.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Oh that's what you know. You weren't concerned about your
future stake. It was more.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
No, No, I was concerned about it.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
This is going to be delicious.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Let me use my firm crowd buttocks to get in
there quickly, is what I was thinking. But I am
curious about situations you've been in. Give me some brain
fart stories. Make me feel better about myself. Where you've
screwed up, Maybe you've left yourself in a vulnerable position
like this and you've come back to find things are okay.
Or maybe you got robbed. I mean, maybe you've made
this mistake in Cleveland. What you got, I say, it's
(11:52):
news that makes West Virginia look good. If you want
to put a positive spin on this, yes, But if
you want to focus on on my mental decline, and
I guess we can we go down that road too.
What are we seeing on the text line here, Nikki Drake?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
This was actually my first thought too. Maybe they thought
your Forerunner was a bait car.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Because it was so obvious.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
It's so obvious it would go down wallet cell phone like, yeah,
obviously you're gonna get caught.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, come on, the police are monitoring this car. Nobody
would do this. It's too easy.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, if it's too good to be true, too good
to be true.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, maybe so, maybe so.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah. Here's another one.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Left my keys in the lock of my old apartment.
Once one of my neighbors walked by, opened the door,
threw the keys in and nonchalantly said, you forgot these,
closed the door, and walked off easily.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Could have been a murder, could very well have been. Yes.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I had a roommate that used to do this constantly,
his keys in the door. It was so frustrating, no
matter how many times we were like, hey, your keys
always happened multiple times a week.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
You know, I've not done that. But I have gotten
up in the morning and walked out in the garage
and find the garage doors open.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah all night.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I hate that.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I mean again, you do that in the wrong place,
and I mean there are tools in there.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
There's all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Through that door, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, there's a lot, that's right, There is a lot terrifying.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Okay, then I had a less terrifying brain feart yesterday on.
Our whole purpose of running errands yesterday was so that
I could go to Hallmark and I needed to drop
off my dream book wish list. And I have an
addiction to Hallmark ornaments. Let me I know it's a problem.
(13:41):
So yeah, so that was our whole purpose for going
out yesterday.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And we are almost to the store. I left my
list on the table.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Say there you go. That is a perfect example the.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Jack and Nikki Show one two w v AQ.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
What we're going to discuss right now, the children and
the grandparents who don't like them. Oh gosh, yeah, yeah,
that's right. We got some research here from Mom's Net
revealing that pretty good chunk of grandparents, about twenty percent,
are not fans of their grandchildren's names. They do not
(14:23):
like the names of these children.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Okay, so it's not like the child they don't like,
it's the name the kid.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Okay, because of the name the most disliked grandkid names.
I have the list right here. Okay, so I'd be
very curious to hear from someone listening this morning, maybe
your kid has one of these names. Let's see how
that's going over with the grandparents. Grandparents don't like the
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name Aurora, Charlotte, Elijah, Finn, Jack, Lindsay, Noah, Sally, and
of course have Tabitha.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And this is why.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Too weird, too old fashioned. Should we pause right there
and give that a little bit of thought. The grandparents
are complaining that the kid's name is too old fashioned.
The grandparents, they don't like the spelling of some of
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these names, and my favorite, it reminds them of someone
they didn't like.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Okay, well, if.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
We named people based on that and had to run
it past every family.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Member, a name that's that's exactly right, your kids would
be known as Exhibit A and Exhibit B. Because the
very notion of you are you're an elderly person and
you went to school it's somebody you didn't like, and
(16:03):
now you're upset because your kid has named the grandchild
this name. This is madness to me, first of all,
as I always say, all roads lead to narcissism. How
up your own butt are you that the kid's name
is a problem because you didn't like somebody in elementary
school fifty years ago, right, somebody rubbed you the wrong way. Yeah, So,
(16:27):
since you're the center of the universe, this kid can't
be named that, right, that's insane. Yeah, okay, so there's that,
Niki DrAk your witness.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I did have something similar to that happened in my family.
One of my cousins was named The full name is
not you know, the person that tormented me in elementary school,
but the nickname.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
They were immediately like, her name is Helena. Her nickname
is Laney, and my mom and I looked at each other,
we were.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Like Laney because this child was a menace, and we
were like, okay, well we'll just call her Helena. Because
even to this day and she's, you know, graduating college now,
I still can't displace the two.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, that's how much of a menace this person was
in my life. So I had something happen like that.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Am I the only one of that thinks it's funny
that you were bullied by somebody named Laney?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Get you?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
It was bad.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I guess if your name's Lane, you better be tough.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah yeah, okay, all right, well again. Studio and text
lines are open triple eight, triple seven, sixty six forty.
You can call us. You can text us there. You
can also text us at three five sixty five to one.
You got any of these names in your family, your
grandparents having any trouble with it? If they are, how
do you deal with that? By the way, if your
grandparents are kind of turning up their nose at the
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name that you've picked for your grandkid, it doesn't have
to necessarily be one of these names on the list.
But it's just, you know, I don't know what it
is with grandparents. They seem to have this notion that
they should have more influence and power over you and
your kids than they do. Like, yeah, like, like your
goal with your kids is to please them, seemingly with
(18:16):
some overreaching grandparents. They're not all insane obviously, just you know,
some of them, some of them, enough of them are
insane that we can make fun of them. Yeah, yeah,
I mean what do you do with that? How do
you deal with that? Do you just say, hey, shutty,
you don't you don't like my kid's name. You be quiet,
We'll put you in a home. Okay, let's go back
into it. Texts coming in reaction to grandparents not liking
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they grandchildren's names names like Aurora, Charlotte, Elijah, Finn, Jack, Lindsey, Noah, Sally,
and Tabitha. People are kind of surprised by this. Let's see,
says this Texter. My mother named me Anthony and aggravated
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my paternal grandma because quote that baby ain't notally what okay?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Fair enough Italian?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh yeah, gotcha? I was like what?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Where there was another text here that was really interesting.
Somebody was shocked by the names that were on that
list there.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Oh yeah, how are Charlotte and Jack on the list
as too weird?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah? Charlotte and Jack. Obviously, I don't I don't have
any problem with those names.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Oh really, you don't say?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Seems fine to me. Yeah, it seems to work.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I think the most confusing thing about this to me
is the argument that these grandparents are making. The issue
that they're taking is that the names are too old fashioned.
If you're naming you were your grandkid, if you're giving
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your grandkid a name that was common in the grandparents' dayah,
wouldn't you think that that would be something the grandparents
would embrace.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
You would think, right.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, I'd be like, oh wow.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, my generation that fits in. This is a name
that was common when I was a kid. But instead
they're like, this is a name that was common when
I was a kid. I hate it, right, come up
with something different.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
It's so weird.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Spell it in a strange way, tossed in a couple
of digits in the middle of the name. Something helped
me out, add a four to it, whatever.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
I think This is why people don't share baby names
as well, because you don't need all the feedback beforehand.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Oh you mean beforehand to day.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I thought you meant that the grandparents go over the
kids like thirteen years old. Moving on, men and women
as just friends? Is it possible. We've talked about this obviously,
the I mean, it does come up from time to time.
(21:02):
This one's a little bit different, though, because I'm going
to ask you to do some slew thing here. Okay,
oh yeah. This isn't just the broad question of can
men and women just be friends? This is a question
of is this woman's husband cheating on her? So we're
gonna get her story here, and then based on the clues,
we're gonna try to figure out if something is actually
(21:25):
going on between her husband and a coworker. Okay, that's
the question that I'm going to pose to you guys. Okay,
So we're not doing a broad soteric kind of analysis
of okay, men and women in general, this is specific
to this guy. Do you think that he is cheating
on her? Listen to this.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
A couple of nights ago, he was showing me a
video on his phone and that's when a text message
came through from a female's name that I did not recognize,
and whenever I asked him who it was, he said, oh,
that's my coworker, TJ. And now I find out that
this is the TJ that he's been going and having
lunch with for the past two weeks. When he went
to go take a shower that night, I'm not proud
of it, but I did go through his text from her.
(22:08):
But I saw a text from him asking her if
she made it home okay, and then saying that he
wished that he would have got to talk to her
more that night, his colleagues had taken up a lot
of his time, and then he asked her if she
wanted to get drinks.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Again with him.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
We were laying in bed watching TV, and around one am,
he got a text from her that said you up
and I asked him why she would be texting him that,
and he was like, I have no idea, maybe she's
drunk and maybe she didn't mean to send it to me.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Huh wow, yikes, this is not good.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
No, listen, not good at all.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Not good. Yeah, a lot of indicators here.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yes, m m yeah. If there's not cheating, there's going
to be.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Agreed.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, good. Huh Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
There's maybe some like borderline emotional cheating happening right now,
but the physical cheating, it's on the way.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
They're ramping up, Hunky Drake, I would like to discuss
whether or not you think he's cheating, not cheating, or,
as Nicky suggested, ramping up for cheating. As you see it,
the cheating Faerry is on the tarmac with the big
orange flashlights waving him in, and he is circling looking
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for permission to land, and he is getting it okay. Also,
some people take an issue with whether or not she
should have gone through his text messages while he was
washing his naked body, and I think we can ask
that question as well. So let's have complete and thorough
analysis from you guys. What are we seeing on the
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text line here before we get to the excellent analysis.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
All right, let's see goodness ramping up.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
There's definitely flirting with texts and what are they.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Verbally saying at work? That's a good point.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yeah, like she's only reading what's you know on the receipts?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Interesting?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, none of this looks good. I mean the optics
are really bad. And his reaction is also not good.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Right right.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
If he gets a text.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
From her at one o'clock in the morning and his
wife says, why is she texting you on in the morning,
He's like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Know, maybe she's drunk. Maybe the text worshipment for me.
I'm sure it's ald just an accident.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
She should tell you what you text back and hit
on her and I'm gonna read it over your shoulder
and let me see how she responds, and then we're
gonna know for sure, right right, I mean you could
do that, Sure, you could do that. Or he doesn't
even necessarily have to proposition her, just say, why don't
you text her back? And let's read these together and
see where this goes, because if he's got nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
To hide, right, then nothing to hide.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Then there's nothing to hide. Yeah, right, and this woman
is gonna look pretty ridiculous. Okay, So let's talk about
her going through his phone because some people have suggested
that that is wrong and inappropriate and a breach of
his privacy. What do you think about that, Nikki, because
(25:21):
I do have some thoughts on that here.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I have mixed feels about it, honestly, Like I understand
why she felt the need to, because I mean, yeah,
my gut was pointing me in that direction as she's
telling the story.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
But at the same time, like, oh, is a that
is crossing a line? Right?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Well, it could be. It depends on the situation.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't and I don't know
what the rules are within their relationship, Like just does
she have full access and permission previously to have access
to his devices?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You know, like you know, David and I we can
our phones back and forth all day.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
It doesn't matter, you know, Or is that a boundary
within their relationship and should it right?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
And should it be?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
But so like if there's no set rules there yet,
then it's kind of a gray area, right.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay, Now I'm with you on that. We've talked about this,
you know, you and Dave, Jessica and I we know
each other's passwords for everything, social media, cell phones, whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So if my phone is lying around anytime, Jessica wants
to pick it up and jump in it, she's got
the code, have at it.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I don't care, it doesn't matter. Now, does she do that?
I don't know. Probably not.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I mean I don't think so, like I have. Yeah,
and I don't bother with her because you know, I
trust her. And Okay, but here's what I would suggest
with this woman looking into his phone. Generally, you know
that you feel like a creep doing that. But I
think she has probable cause. Okay, I think she does.
(26:58):
I think if she were to take this to the
courts looking for search, weren't I think they would issue one.
I think there's probable cause here. Yeah, you know again,
and we've talked about this stuff so much on this show.
People say things like, well, that's jealous and controlling behavior
only if it's not happening, right, Like, if you are,
(27:20):
you're not paranoid if the thing that you're worried about
is actually happening. So if it really looks like there's
all kinds of evidence in front of you and all
kinds of clues that your partner's cheating on you, and
you decide to look into that. That's what a reasonable
person would do, right.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Now, if there are no clues and no evidence and
there's nothing going on, and you guys are just going
about your day to day and you keep looking into
his phone and snooping around on him, well that's on you.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
You are jealous and controlling and paranoid and all those things.
But if somebody gives you a bunch of great, big
dangling clues, you'd be a fool to ignore them. Yeah, okay,
do you got more texts coming in?
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Uh? Yeah, this person says, coming from a man who
is married and best friend is female, the fact that
she had any text to look through says he's not
cheating and not planning on it, because if he was
planning on it, he would keep everything deleted anytime his
phone isn't going to be in his hand or pocket.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Humm, sounds like cheeter talk.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Or he's just not smart enough to delete it. I mean,
there's that too.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Well, that's the thing I mean, by the way, this
guy makes some good points. I think that Yeah, that's
a good point.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, cheater is going to know how to cover their generally.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So yeah, Now, but then this guy, his relationship with
this woman who is his best friend. A whole bunch
of caveats there. Who knows what that's all about. He's married,
maybe she's married. Maybe they don't find each other attractive.
I mean, there are whole lot of things that would
factor into that. It is very easy to be friends
with somebody that you are not attracted to at all. Yes,
(28:59):
it is very difficult to be friends with somebody you
find extremely attractive.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Okay, So there's that.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So, and that's another thing we don't know about this story,
this woman that we started with here, what's this coworker
look like?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Okay, I mean that's a factor. How tempted is the husband?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Okay? All right, I mean yeah, okay, Well, we solved nothing.
We've muddied the water. We've probably angered a lot of people.
Let's wrap it up, and that concludes this analysis. We
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
I know none of you would be surprised when I
say people like ed dogs shocking, but how much we
like dogs, well, that may surprise you. So I said
moments ago that we have the research here this morning
that some find shocking and unsettling.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I am shocked in unsettled.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yes, people love their dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
A recent study found that dogs outrank the humans in
relationships almost every time. Participants were asked to rate their
dogs and their human partners, best friend, and children their
own show chldren and dogs outperformed all of them.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Okay, I see that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Fortunately there was one exception, romantic partners. Okay, intimacy. The
dogs lost out there.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Ye too.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I'm glad to hear it. I'm very happy for that,
Thank god, thank god.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That was the one category where people went you know,
I think I prefer the human that I'm with too.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It suld have been very awkward, yeah, terribly.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Awkward and appropriate.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Researchers discovered that the dog human bond resembles parent child relationships,
but without the many negative interactions that often come with
parent child relationships, study author Iniko Kubinyi.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Oh he's good, Nikki. Yeah, yeah, he knows what he's
talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He said, quote. Dogs occupy a unique place in our
social world, offering the emotional closeness of a partner, the
he's of a best friend, and the carpet stains of
a small child.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So what I'd like to do.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Right now is open up the I love my dog
more than my children hotline. If you have the guts
to admit it eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty
six forty, you can call us. You can text us
at that number. You can also text us at three
five six five one who has the guts to just
admit it. Okay, you have a couple of kids and
(02:27):
you have a Golden Retriever or maybe a black lab
sure right, and you look at them and you go, yeah,
I like the dog better. If if you're willing to
admit that, then we have open studio lines for you,
or you can text and we can read it and
then let people think what they will.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, dogs are great. I mean there's no question.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
They are fantastic.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
They really are. And I'm trying not to bring cats
into this because we always do. Let's just trying to
focus on dogs. But again, I don't have kids, so
it's hard for me to compare and contrast, say a
black lab with you know, a five year old boy. Right,
But yeah, the people who have the people in this
research who have both children and dogs prefer their dogs.
(03:18):
I'm not, Oh God, that that can't be good for
the kid's self.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Esteem'd be totally honest right now.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
At one point, I went to visit my best friend,
my cousin, and she had recently birthed my goddaughter.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
They have had a Bassett Beagle mix. And while.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I love my goddaughter, but she was a tiny infant,
I probably spent more time with.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
The dog while I was visiting than.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I did with the baby.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Okay, well you got us off to a good star thing.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Again, I love my dog more than my children. Hotline
it is open for you, and let's just see if
anybody bites triple eight, triple seven, sixty six forty or
you can text us at that number. We're three five
sixty five to one. I don't think we're going to
any takers on this. I'd be shocked if anybody's willing
to admit it. Yeah, I mean, maybe admit it and
explain it. Come on, yeah, that's right, follow NICKI. Okay,
(04:12):
try to be as brave as Nicky for once in
your life. So we have the I love my dog
more than my children hotline wide open right now. We
are getting some reaction here on the text line. Some
of it is bewildering and even upsetting, says this text or.
I would totally call because I tell my kids all
(04:34):
the time my boxer is my favorite child. But they're
in the car for school drop off, and I said,
I'd better not call. If you're going to make that
kind of a call to the show, you probably don't
want to do it in front of your kids, right
at the very least, do it behind their backs so
they don't know that while they are going about their day,
(04:55):
minding their own business, their own mom is on the
radio talking about how she prefers the family dog over them.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
What do you see here, NICKI, I'd love to shove
my kids back where they came from and adopt two
dogs per kid.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
See that's the one that I found very troubling. I
I don't know who would be up for shoving them
back from whence they came. That seems like a problem.
And I'm also I don't know who texted that, if
it's the mom or the dad, because some people choose to.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Have their children returned. Stop.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay, the Nerve Center of North Central West Virginia Jack
Loger and Nikki Drake on one O two WVQ.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Right now, a different kind of news update for you.
What kind of news would that be? Why?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
News that makes West Virginia look good? I have news
despite the fact that it makes me look pretty stupid.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
All right, here we go. This is what happened to
me on Saturday that I found quite shocking, even by
my own standards.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Okay, Okay, Jessica.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And I went out to dinner and a movie, and
after the motion picture, we decided to go over to
Longhorn Steakhouse in Bridgeport. Okay, Longhorn Steakhouse is what I'm indicating.
And it was the mid sixties kind of day. It was,
(06:39):
you know, comfortable enough outside that I had the window down,
you know, and we were in j Justica's four runner. Okay,
and so so turning on the air conditioning, I just
put the window down.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
We pull up.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I dropped Jessica off at the curb. She goes on
in to arrange for the table and so on and
so forth, and I go on around and park the vehicle.
So I parked the vehicle, I got out, I go in.
We wait, we get the table. The whole thing takes
probably an hour, okay, okay, an hour.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Later we walk out.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
We walk up to the Forerunner that has been sitting
in a busy parking lot, and we discover that I
left the driver side window completely rolled down, with my
wallet and my cell phone sitting on the console. Jack Booger, Yeah,
(07:29):
clearly visible and within arm's reach. I mean you could
easily lean in there and just pick it up and.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Walk away with it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
An hour in a busy parking lot, Yeah right there,
Longhorn Steakhouse. Now, I think that this is news that
makes West Virginia look good, because there aren't many places
you could do that and come back and it would.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Still be there.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Sure, so'm I mean my heart sunk as soon as
I walked up and saw the windows open, and Jessica said,
why is the window rolled down.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I was like, he tell why, tell the why.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I was like, at first, it surprised me because I
didn't remember doing it obviously, because you know, I had
a brain fart, so I just wasn't So I got
in and I thought, well, it's here, but maybe somebody
rifled through it. Maybe the cash is gone, maybe the
cards are gone. No, open up the wallet. All the
cash was in there, the credit card, the debit card, everything,
(08:32):
you know, my phone sitting right there.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, okay, Jack Loger, how about that.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
That's fantastic news.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yes, I was spared.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
But also, how did you like when you go to
sit down and you're like, oh my, you know you
feel your wallet right?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
No, no, no, I don't care my wallet in my
back pocket because of the roundness of my firm, proud
buttocks makes it impossible for me to walk comfortably or
sit down because my buddy is so round.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
And yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Generally what we do is when we're going to go
in somewhere, if Jessica's going to take her purse, oh,
then yeah, then I don't bother having a wallet with me.
We don't, you know, we don't need it. Yeah, So
if we're going to like pop into a store or
something quickly, like run through let's say home depot or something.
Then maybe she'll leave her person the car. I'll take
the wall, you know, just whatever's convenient. But so that's
(09:25):
how the wallet and the phone ended up in there.
And I look, I don't I'm shocked by how well
this worked out. But I thank God that we live
where we do, because there have also been times when
I have left my truck sitting in my driveway with
the keys in the ignition, and I've walked out the
next morning and be like, oh my god, my truck
(09:46):
was sitting at here all night with my keys in
it and my wallet, and I didn't even think about that, right,
But we we live in a place where you can
generally make those kinds of mistakes and not pay dearly
for them.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean my dad lived in an apartment in Cleveland,
and he would come out sometimes and wouldn't even have
a vehicle there. It would be he had a couple
of trucks stolen from him. Gosh, he bought one of
those what they used to make those bars that you
would put on your the club that you would put
on your steering wheel. Yeah, yeah, and so he thought, well,
that'll save it. And then he came out the next
(10:19):
morning and the only thing there was the club and
the steering wheel that was attached to the rest of
the vehicle's gone. Studio lines are open eight eight eight
seven seven, seven sixty six forty. You can also text
us at that number of three five sixty five to one.
What I'd like to do right now is a piece
I'm gonna call fun with cognitive decline. Nikki had the
story about brain farts and how they should be taken seriously,
(10:44):
and it's basically your brain taking a mini nap, and
it's just kind of checking out for a few seconds
or minutes or whatever, and then you just do these
kinds of forgetful things.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It's like a little reboot, right.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So I guess when I parked the vehicle and I
was getting out, the brain was rebooting at that point,
and I just left the window down and all of
my stuff right on the console and just didn't even
think of it, right. I think what was on my
mind was Jessica was in there waiting, and she's trying
to move things along, and I'm trying to be considerate
(11:17):
for her. I don't want to leave her hanging. I'm like, well,
she's in there waiting on many to get in there.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Oh that's what you know. You weren't concerned about your
future stake. It was more.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
No, No, I was concerned about it.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
This is going to be delicious.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Let me use my firm crowd buttocks to get in
there quickly, is what I was thinking. But I am
curious about situations you've been in. Give me some brain
fart stories. Make me feel better about myself. Where you've
screwed up, Maybe you've left yourself in a vulnerable position
like this and you've come back to find things are okay.
Or maybe you got robbed. I mean, maybe you've made
this mistake in Cleveland. What you got, I say, it's
(11:52):
news that makes West Virginia look good. If you want
to put a positive spin on this, yes, But if
you want to focus on on my mental decline, and
I guess we can we go down that road too.
What are we seeing on the text line here, Nikki Drake?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
This was actually my first thought too. Maybe they thought
your Forerunner was a bait car.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Because it was so obvious.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
It's so obvious it would go down wallet cell phone like, yeah,
obviously you're gonna get caught.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, come on, the police are monitoring this car. Nobody
would do this. It's too easy.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, if it's too good to be true, too good
to be true.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, maybe so, maybe so.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah. Here's another one.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Left my keys in the lock of my old apartment.
Once one of my neighbors walked by, opened the door,
threw the keys in and nonchalantly said, you forgot these,
closed the door, and walked off easily.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Could have been a murder, could very well have been. Yes.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I had a roommate that used to do this constantly,
his keys in the door. It was so frustrating, no
matter how many times we were like, hey, your keys
always happened multiple times a week.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
You know, I've not done that. But I have gotten
up in the morning and walked out in the garage
and find the garage doors open.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah all night.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I hate that.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I mean again, you do that in the wrong place,
and I mean there are tools in there.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
There's all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Through that door, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, there's a lot, that's right, There is a lot terrifying.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Okay, then I had a less terrifying brain feart yesterday on.
Our whole purpose of running errands yesterday was so that
I could go to Hallmark and I needed to drop
off my dream book wish list. And I have an
addiction to Hallmark ornaments. Let me I know it's a problem.
(13:41):
So yeah, so that was our whole purpose for going
out yesterday.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And we are almost to the store. I left my
list on the table.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Say there you go. That is a perfect example the.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Jack and Nikki Show one two w v AQ.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
What we're going to discuss right now, the children and
the grandparents who don't like them. Oh gosh, yeah, yeah,
that's right. We got some research here from Mom's Net
revealing that pretty good chunk of grandparents, about twenty percent,
are not fans of their grandchildren's names. They do not
(14:23):
like the names of these children.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Okay, so it's not like the child they don't like,
it's the name the kid.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Okay, because of the name the most disliked grandkid names.
I have the list right here. Okay, so I'd be
very curious to hear from someone listening this morning, maybe
your kid has one of these names. Let's see how
that's going over with the grandparents. Grandparents don't like the
(14:49):
name Aurora, Charlotte, Elijah, Finn, Jack, Lindsay, Noah, Sally, and
of course have Tabitha.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And this is why.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Too weird, too old fashioned. Should we pause right there
and give that a little bit of thought. The grandparents
are complaining that the kid's name is too old fashioned.
The grandparents, they don't like the spelling of some of
(15:26):
these names, and my favorite, it reminds them of someone
they didn't like.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Okay, well, if.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
We named people based on that and had to run
it past every family.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Member, a name that's that's exactly right, your kids would
be known as Exhibit A and Exhibit B. Because the
very notion of you are you're an elderly person and
you went to school it's somebody you didn't like, and
(16:03):
now you're upset because your kid has named the grandchild
this name. This is madness to me, first of all,
as I always say, all roads lead to narcissism. How
up your own butt are you that the kid's name
is a problem because you didn't like somebody in elementary
school fifty years ago, right, somebody rubbed you the wrong way. Yeah, So,
(16:27):
since you're the center of the universe, this kid can't
be named that, right, that's insane. Yeah, okay, so there's that,
Niki DrAk your witness.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I did have something similar to that happened in my family.
One of my cousins was named The full name is
not you know, the person that tormented me in elementary school,
but the nickname.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
They were immediately like, her name is Helena. Her nickname
is Laney, and my mom and I looked at each other,
we were.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Like Laney because this child was a menace, and we
were like, okay, well we'll just call her Helena. Because
even to this day and she's, you know, graduating college now,
I still can't displace the two.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, that's how much of a menace this person was
in my life. So I had something happen like that.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Am I the only one of that thinks it's funny
that you were bullied by somebody named Laney?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Get you?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
It was bad.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I guess if your name's Lane, you better be tough.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah yeah, okay, all right, well again. Studio and text
lines are open triple eight, triple seven, sixty six forty.
You can call us. You can text us there. You
can also text us at three five sixty five to one.
You got any of these names in your family, your
grandparents having any trouble with it? If they are, how
do you deal with that? By the way, if your
grandparents are kind of turning up their nose at the
(17:52):
name that you've picked for your grandkid, it doesn't have
to necessarily be one of these names on the list.
But it's just, you know, I don't know what it
is with grandparents. They seem to have this notion that
they should have more influence and power over you and
your kids than they do. Like, yeah, like, like your
goal with your kids is to please them, seemingly with
(18:16):
some overreaching grandparents. They're not all insane obviously, just you know,
some of them, some of them, enough of them are
insane that we can make fun of them. Yeah, yeah,
I mean what do you do with that? How do
you deal with that? Do you just say, hey, shutty,
you don't you don't like my kid's name. You be quiet,
We'll put you in a home. Okay, let's go back
into it. Texts coming in reaction to grandparents not liking
(18:41):
they grandchildren's names names like Aurora, Charlotte, Elijah, Finn, Jack, Lindsey, Noah, Sally,
and Tabitha. People are kind of surprised by this. Let's see,
says this Texter. My mother named me Anthony and aggravated
(19:05):
my paternal grandma because quote that baby ain't notally what okay?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Fair enough Italian?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh yeah, gotcha? I was like what?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Where there was another text here that was really interesting.
Somebody was shocked by the names that were on that
list there.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Oh yeah, how are Charlotte and Jack on the list
as too weird?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah? Charlotte and Jack. Obviously, I don't I don't have
any problem with those names.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Oh really, you don't say?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Seems fine to me. Yeah, it seems to work.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I think the most confusing thing about this to me
is the argument that these grandparents are making. The issue
that they're taking is that the names are too old fashioned.
If you're naming you were your grandkid, if you're giving
(20:01):
your grandkid a name that was common in the grandparents' dayah,
wouldn't you think that that would be something the grandparents
would embrace.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
You would think, right.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, I'd be like, oh wow.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, my generation that fits in. This is a name
that was common when I was a kid. But instead
they're like, this is a name that was common when
I was a kid. I hate it, right, come up
with something different.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
It's so weird.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Spell it in a strange way, tossed in a couple
of digits in the middle of the name. Something helped
me out, add a four to it, whatever.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
I think This is why people don't share baby names
as well, because you don't need all the feedback beforehand.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Oh you mean beforehand to day.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I thought you meant that the grandparents go over the
kids like thirteen years old. Moving on, men and women
as just friends? Is it possible. We've talked about this obviously,
the I mean, it does come up from time to time.
(21:02):
This one's a little bit different, though, because I'm going
to ask you to do some slew thing here. Okay,
oh yeah. This isn't just the broad question of can
men and women just be friends? This is a question
of is this woman's husband cheating on her? So we're
gonna get her story here, and then based on the clues,
we're gonna try to figure out if something is actually
(21:25):
going on between her husband and a coworker. Okay, that's
the question that I'm going to pose to you guys. Okay,
So we're not doing a broad soteric kind of analysis
of okay, men and women in general, this is specific
to this guy. Do you think that he is cheating
on her? Listen to this.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
A couple of nights ago, he was showing me a
video on his phone and that's when a text message
came through from a female's name that I did not recognize,
and whenever I asked him who it was, he said, oh,
that's my coworker, TJ. And now I find out that
this is the TJ that he's been going and having
lunch with for the past two weeks. When he went
to go take a shower that night, I'm not proud
of it, but I did go through his text from her.
(22:08):
But I saw a text from him asking her if
she made it home okay, and then saying that he
wished that he would have got to talk to her
more that night, his colleagues had taken up a lot
of his time, and then he asked her if she
wanted to get drinks.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Again with him.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
We were laying in bed watching TV, and around one am,
he got a text from her that said you up
and I asked him why she would be texting him that,
and he was like, I have no idea, maybe she's
drunk and maybe she didn't mean to send it to me.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Huh wow, yikes, this is not good.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
No, listen, not good at all.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Not good. Yeah, a lot of indicators here.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yes, m m yeah. If there's not cheating, there's going
to be.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Agreed.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, good. Huh Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
There's maybe some like borderline emotional cheating happening right now,
but the physical cheating, it's on the way.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
They're ramping up, Hunky Drake, I would like to discuss
whether or not you think he's cheating, not cheating, or,
as Nicky suggested, ramping up for cheating. As you see it,
the cheating Faerry is on the tarmac with the big
orange flashlights waving him in, and he is circling looking
(23:29):
for permission to land, and he is getting it okay. Also,
some people take an issue with whether or not she
should have gone through his text messages while he was
washing his naked body, and I think we can ask
that question as well. So let's have complete and thorough
analysis from you guys. What are we seeing on the
(23:52):
text line here before we get to the excellent analysis.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
All right, let's see goodness ramping up.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
There's definitely flirting with texts and what are they.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Verbally saying at work? That's a good point.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yeah, like she's only reading what's you know on the receipts?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Interesting?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, none of this looks good. I mean the optics
are really bad. And his reaction is also not good.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Right right.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
If he gets a text.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
From her at one o'clock in the morning and his
wife says, why is she texting you on in the morning,
He's like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Know, maybe she's drunk. Maybe the text worshipment for me.
I'm sure it's ald just an accident.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
She should tell you what you text back and hit
on her and I'm gonna read it over your shoulder
and let me see how she responds, and then we're
gonna know for sure, right right, I mean you could
do that, Sure, you could do that. Or he doesn't
even necessarily have to proposition her, just say, why don't
you text her back? And let's read these together and
see where this goes, because if he's got nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
To hide, right, then nothing to hide.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Then there's nothing to hide. Yeah, right, and this woman
is gonna look pretty ridiculous. Okay, So let's talk about
her going through his phone because some people have suggested
that that is wrong and inappropriate and a breach of
his privacy. What do you think about that, Nikki, because
(25:21):
I do have some thoughts on that here.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I have mixed feels about it, honestly, Like I understand
why she felt the need to, because I mean, yeah,
my gut was pointing me in that direction as she's
telling the story.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
But at the same time, like, oh, is a that
is crossing a line? Right?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Well, it could be. It depends on the situation.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't and I don't know
what the rules are within their relationship, Like just does
she have full access and permission previously to have access
to his devices?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You know, like you know, David and I we can
our phones back and forth all day.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
It doesn't matter, you know, Or is that a boundary
within their relationship and should it right?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
And should it be?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
But so like if there's no set rules there yet,
then it's kind of a gray area, right.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay, Now I'm with you on that. We've talked about this,
you know, you and Dave, Jessica and I we know
each other's passwords for everything, social media, cell phones, whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So if my phone is lying around anytime, Jessica wants
to pick it up and jump in it, she's got
the code, have at it.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I don't care, it doesn't matter. Now, does she do that?
I don't know. Probably not.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I mean I don't think so, like I have. Yeah,
and I don't bother with her because you know, I
trust her. And Okay, but here's what I would suggest
with this woman looking into his phone. Generally, you know
that you feel like a creep doing that. But I
think she has probable cause. Okay, I think she does.
(26:58):
I think if she were to take this to the
courts looking for search, weren't I think they would issue one.
I think there's probable cause here. Yeah, you know again,
and we've talked about this stuff so much on this show.
People say things like, well, that's jealous and controlling behavior
only if it's not happening, right, Like, if you are,
(27:20):
you're not paranoid if the thing that you're worried about
is actually happening. So if it really looks like there's
all kinds of evidence in front of you and all
kinds of clues that your partner's cheating on you, and
you decide to look into that. That's what a reasonable
person would do, right.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Now, if there are no clues and no evidence and
there's nothing going on, and you guys are just going
about your day to day and you keep looking into
his phone and snooping around on him, well that's on you.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
You are jealous and controlling and paranoid and all those things.
But if somebody gives you a bunch of great, big
dangling clues, you'd be a fool to ignore them. Yeah, okay,
do you got more texts coming in?
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Uh? Yeah, this person says, coming from a man who
is married and best friend is female, the fact that
she had any text to look through says he's not
cheating and not planning on it, because if he was
planning on it, he would keep everything deleted anytime his
phone isn't going to be in his hand or pocket.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Humm, sounds like cheeter talk.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Or he's just not smart enough to delete it. I mean,
there's that too.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Well, that's the thing I mean, by the way, this
guy makes some good points. I think that Yeah, that's
a good point.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, cheater is going to know how to cover their generally.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So yeah, Now, but then this guy, his relationship with
this woman who is his best friend. A whole bunch
of caveats there. Who knows what that's all about. He's married,
maybe she's married. Maybe they don't find each other attractive.
I mean, there are whole lot of things that would
factor into that. It is very easy to be friends
with somebody that you are not attracted to at all. Yes,
(28:59):
it is very difficult to be friends with somebody you
find extremely attractive.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Okay, So there's that.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So, and that's another thing we don't know about this story,
this woman that we started with here, what's this coworker
look like?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Okay, I mean that's a factor. How tempted is the husband?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Okay? All right, I mean yeah, okay, Well, we solved nothing.
We've muddied the water. We've probably angered a lot of people.
Let's wrap it up, and that concludes this analysis. We
have spoken
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