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July 28, 2025 • 29 mins
Jack and Nikki debate the merits of putting your kid in a dog cage for a time out, discuss the wisdom of marital hacks women are sharing on social media and ask how you feel about singing servers at restaurants.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's time now to yes, turn the show over to you, guys,
because you asked for it. You horrent see you asked
for it. Where you pose a question, you toss out
a topic you would like to hear us discuss on

(00:39):
the show, we discuss it. We open studio and text lines.
We all jump in hip deep and ideally a good
time is had by all. So let me just tell
you the studio text lines are open eight eight eight
seven seven seven sixty six forty call us text us there.
You can also text us at three five sixty five. One.
Let's get started with this text that came in moments

(01:01):
ago from one of our listeners, says the texter. Over
the weekend, I attended a kid's party with my child.
I think it was a birthday party.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Oh okay.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
The host mom put her own rowdy child in her
dog's cage for a time out. No, I voiced my
concern and it turned into an argument. She said that
the dog's cage was gentle, safe and effective. Wait a minute,
I'm sorry, are you talking about a dog's cage or
a mild laxative? Sounds like a commercial?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Does it gentle, safe and effective.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
For overnight relief? And try putting your child in a cage?
Another parent told me that I should have minded my
own business and that it's wrong to tell another adult
house a parent, But I can't stop thinking about it.
Did I overreact? Is this unacceptable? What do you think? Well?
Let the debate begin.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Uh, it's so strange.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
This is an odd one.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean, granted I don't have children my own.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, but wouldn't just like sending them to another room.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Be better?

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Because I assume this dogcage, because this mom was able
to this other mom was able to see the kid
in the dog cage, then everybody else at the party
was probably witnessing this as well.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, and wouldn't that be a little.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Extra humiliating and maybe potentially traumatic.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
You're suggesting that this is how a kid grows into
an adult who is like P Diddy? Maybe yeah? Yeah? Well,
I mean my question did he have water bowl or
at least, you know, like one of those water bottles
that the gerbil has. Yeah, that drips the water down.
Could he exercise in there on a big hamster wheel?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I mean, stand up and turn around.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
That's the test, right, that's what we're supposed to test.
I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Was there a lot of crouching. Did you have back
issues when he came out? Was he covered in kibble?
I can't imagine that there's not an easier way to
do this. Again, we're not parents, and that's why I
like to have these conversations on the show about parenting,
because this is one of those opportunities for you guys

(03:13):
really to step in here and toss out some things
that maybe we're missing, we're not thinking of. This seems
like what you said, Nikki would be a pretty simple
solution is to just put the kid in another room. Yeah,
and you know it doesn't have to be his bedroom
where he's probably got video games and all kinds of
stuff that he can enjoy. No, you could put him

(03:34):
in a different a spare bedroom, or just any.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Other rooms any Yeah, just.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
To separate him from the other kids. Because if you're
having a party and everybody's running around happy and over stimulated,
the punishment is just being separated from the group.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, it's just like, hey, let's take some time to
calm down and.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Then you can rejoin everyone.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, right, yeah, take some time to calm down. I'm
sorry I fed you all of that cake sugar. Yeah,
I don't know why. I give you a full cake
and a two liter of coke, and now I'm surprised
that you're a little bit the energetic at the party.
All right, what do you guys think as parents? What
do you think here? Eight eight eight seven seven seven
sixty six forty again the studio text line. You can

(04:15):
also text us at three five sixty five to one.
Let's talk about two things here. Number one, the whole
notion of putting a kid in a dog's cage? And
number two, is it ever okay for you to go
to somebody's house and critique their parenting? I think that's
the second issue here. Is it ever okay right for
you to just step in and go I don't like

(04:36):
the things you're doing with these kids. I don't think
you know what you're doing raising them, Okay. I think
this is a mistake.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
This is wrong.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Right, that's the question. Those are the questions your answers.
Next We've turned it over to you parents to see
what you think about it, And Nikki, what are you seeing?
On the textual line.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I'm usually one to let parents' parents shouldn't tell people
how to do their job. But I think a dog
cage crosses that line. Yeah, I think it crosses that line. Yeah,
not overreacting. I would have sent a photo to CPS.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Holy bleep. That's not a normal or okay parenting option.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Not normal to put the child in a dog cake.
Let's not forget. This is during a children's birthday party, right,
so this is probably something that's visible to the other kids.
I have to assume, because if.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
One parent saw it, then the other kid, you know,
anybody else.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
That was around. Yeah, even if it wasn't in the
main room where all the kids were, if it was
in a side room, you know, the kids are coming
in there, yeah, looking for something to drink, their mom
or something, and they're like, oh, hey, Steve, sugar rush, Yeah,
how'd you get in the cage? Go on, honey, let's
not be bothering him.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Right.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
This text says sending the child to another room to
calm down would be the correct would be about correcting
the behavior. A dog cage is about punishment. The shame
and humiliation is the point. And the other mom was
absolutely right to say something that's not critiquing someone's parenting,
that's calling out abuse.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Wow, that is well said.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's very well said.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
That is well said. You know what, I agree, Nikki.
That deserves a round of applause. Yes, that's I think
that's excellent analysis and the well put Yeah, yeah, I agree, safe,
gentle and effective texting into the Jack and Nikki show effect.
That's right, Okay, that's what we usually get. Right. Did

(06:40):
you see this one that just popped in here. If
that's what they do in front of company, imagine what
they do in private.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh gosh, I didn't think of that. M oh maah.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, that's that's borderline
terrifying if you think that that because people are usually
good about hiding the crazy. One of the clues that
somebody knows they're doing something wrong is that they hide it,
you know. And so if they don't even attempt to

(07:13):
hide this, they really are oblivious to the fact that
this is not a good idea.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, goodness, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, that's really interesting. Okay, well, this is taking a
bit of a turn here.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Now, I think we're all kind of sad about stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
So the Jack and Niki Show WVQ.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Moving on, Nicky Drake, Let's go now to the matrimony desk,
which we have not visited for a while, and as
you can see, is over in the corner there. I'm
going to need you to drag the matrimony desk and
just pull it over here a little closer. One more
there you give. Okay, let's talk about what some are

(08:00):
calling marriage hacks. Okay, some are calling let me get
this right, spousal manipulations.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yikes.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, this is a story here about women who are
sharing some of their marital hacks, the way that they
keep things moving in the relationship. And honestly, some of
these are very entertaining. Okay, I'll share these with you,
and then let's see if you guys have any that
you're using in your marriage. A studio and text lines

(08:33):
open as always triple eight, triple seven, sixty six forty.
You can textus at three five sixty five one. Let's
find out if you're doing any of these. Okay, all right,
so here we go and again these these are hacks
shared by women. So these are specifically things that women
are doing in their marriages with their husbands. Okay, so
far no response from the fellas and how they're manipulating

(08:55):
their wives. Okay, isn't love wonderful? Okay, So here's our
first example. This woman says, I tell him made up
stories about things my friend's husband did, and finish with
I'm so glad you don't do that, but they're actually
things that he does that I don't like, and then

(09:18):
he's self corrects.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Wow, okay, Wow, that's different. Why not just sit down
and be like, hey, I'm not a fan of this
fill in the blank here, let's stop doing that.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'll tell you why.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Manipulation Okay, Okay, that's like a little bit of shame
to manipulate them into the stopping and like, hmm, interesting.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, I'll tell you my first thought on this. I
will have conversations with Jessica where I will give her
examples of horrible women I'm around and the terrible things
that they do, and how I'm grateful that she is
not like that. But I'm not trying to change her behavior.
I'm trying to tell her, literally, I am really grateful
that you're not like this.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
You do that with me too.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
I don't remember doing that, you know, you're like, hey,
I'm so thankful that this and not this.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
You know what. You're right, Yeah, I do that, you
do that with me. That's you are right. I have
walked in the studio a couple of times he said,
thanks for not being this person. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Let's see, so I can say that he doesn't do
it out of manipulation.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
So I just want to stand up for you right there.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Thank you not at all. Yeah, it's called positive reinforcement. Okay,
back to our list. This woman says, I occasionally buy
gift cards, so every time he doesn't want to go
out to eat, I say, oh, we have a card
from Christmas for that works every time. Wow, that's brilliant.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah that one.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I'm I kind of like that one because then like
you have an excuse for a date night that he
may not have been like, I don't know budget this,
that and the other.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Oh yeah, see that's the thing. You've tricked him now
into spending money. He doesn't know that he's spending because
he thinks it's found money. Sure, right, because we do
that we get gift cards for Christmas and birthations stuff,
and you just hang on to him. And then I'll say,
I don't feel like Jessica's like, well we got this
card to the roadhouse. Oh all right, let's go over
the room.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Oh this is good, Like you need an excuse?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, right, exactly. Let me toss in one more here.
This woman says, this is fascinating. I wore the same
perfume every time we would go to the mall. So
now anytime I put it on, he asks me if
I want to go to the mall.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
He is a Pavlovian dog. He's been conditioned. When he
smells this perfume, yeah, he immediately thinks, oh, we need
to go to the mall. That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
I have a friend when she got married, she bought
a new perfume for the wedding day, wore it for
the wedding day, then took it with her on the honeymoon.
She wears it for special occasions where it's like their
date night, And so that scent is now connected to
all of that room, all of that.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I know what you're getting at.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, So if she wants to go on a spontaneous date.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Then she sprays the perfume one the work.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
It has work, he responds.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
They've been married for like twenty years now, I think,
and she still stalks up on that perfume.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
So she puts that perfume on. He barks like a
dog and hits himself over the head with his own shoes.
It works, all right, he's coming out. Yeah. Eight eight
eight seven seven seven sixty six forty. You can call it.
You can text us at that number. You can also
text us at three five sixty five to one. It's
Jack and Nikki with the exciting conclusion of marriage hacks,

(12:48):
or as some say, spousal manipulation. Listen to this. It's
a list of things that women are admitting to on
the internet, ways that they are manipulating their husbands. And
some of these are pretty subtle. We had some good

(13:11):
examples earlier. Let's get back to it and remind you
that the studio text lines are open. God knows when
you'll prove it. Eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty
six forty. You can call this. You could text this.
Check this out. This woman says, I make his lunch
and dinner. If I'm mad, I'll purposely make it a
little off and tell him I made it with anger

(13:33):
instead of love.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I made it with anger instead of love.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
That's that tossed in some different seasonings.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
I guess, Hey, yeah, lockstra red pepper flakes.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
This is adorable. My grandmama would flip over their home
sweet Home doormat when they were fighting over something. How
about that.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
That's also a good one. Yeah, okay, is not sweet?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah yeah, And he would see that and know, well,
there's trouble of bruin. Things aren't going well. It's not
currently a home sweet home. This woman says, well, let
me save that one for last. That's a good one.
When we are planning to make a big purchase, I
first show him the most expensive thing and let him marinate.

(14:19):
Then show him the one I really want, which is cheaper,
and that works every time.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Oh that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
That's smart. I mean, that's that is smart. That's a
negotiation process that you go through if you're getting hired
for a new job. You ask for a salary beyond
what you think is actually going to happen, and then
they come down and that's the salary you're actually hoping
to get. Right, And there's also We had this example
on the show one time, this this woman who wrecked

(14:51):
the family car and she had to call and tell
her dad or something, and she made up this way
worse story about how like she was in jail and
something or other, and he was all worked up and
she went, now, now I just dented the car. Oh okay,
thank god. Then he was relieved, right, he was relieved

(15:12):
in perspective. That's smart. It's very manipulative, but smart.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
That's smart.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
This is funny. Rather than get mad at each other
for not doing the thing you expect them to do,
like take out the garbage or something like that, we
place a stuffed elephant by the thing to point out
the elephant in the room. So if you come in
and there's an elephant sitting beside something, oh right, right,
that's pretty good. Okay, here's another one. We have a

(15:38):
decision coin that says wife's choice on one side, husband's
choice on the other. Oh, flipping it has helped us
decide so much, from where to go on vacation to
what to have for dinner. Sure, okay, the coin flip.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Oh my gosh, the dinner decision, oh so stressful.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
This one is really good. We wear party hats during arguments.
How could you possibly argue with party hats?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I don't think i'd be able to keep a straight face.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
You know what else also works in that situation when
you're arguing, take your shirt off. Sure, that's all you
gotta do. It immediately changes things, Yes, especially if it's her. Okay,
this one I wanted to say for a last Where
did I put it? Sneaky Drake?

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Here is?

Speaker 4 (16:22):
He said?

Speaker 3 (16:23):
It was really good.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Sometimes my husband and I randomly pretend not to know
each other and start flirting.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh that's cute.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, She'll walk up to him and say things like,
what are you doing here? You know my husband is
at home and he knows to play along. It's pretty hot.
That's a good idea, you know what, that is a
good idea.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I'm somehow very uncomfortable right now.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well, you know, my parents used to do this thing
where they would go to a bar.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
I'm sorry, but yeah, I want advice from your your parents.
It's you.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm going somewhere, okay, all right, and believe me, it
will end a disaster. But I'll get ahead of me.
But what they would do is they would go to
a bar separately. They would arrive at different times. One
of them would go in fifteen twenty minutes before the other,
and then they would not acknowledge each other, and they
would go in and act like they didn't know each other,

(17:21):
and they would each work the room. Okay, So she'd
have the fellows around her, he'd have the bar flies
around him, and they would just kind of do this
dance where they would be like flirting with other people
in front of each other. It was a weird thing. No,
not a competition, a jealousy factory. It was a way
so he would be he would be jealous and angry

(17:43):
over her, and she would be jealous and angry over him,
and then they would leave together and it would be
really hot.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Right, that sounds healthy.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well again, they did get a divorce eventually, and she
went on to marry four other men. So you tell
me it doesn't work. A TikToker posted a video asking
if it was okay to quote leave her dog's poop
baggie in the neighbor's trash can. She asked, am I

(18:14):
supposed to carry that poop bag with me the rest
of the walk home?

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, you are?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
You are commenters had strong opinions that varied. It says
this commenter, you carry it. If that bag breaks or leaks,
are you cleaning up my garbage can?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, that stinks.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
That's a fair question, yeah, lingers.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Another person said I'll toss it in a public trash can,
but never a private residence. Yes, yes, And then finally
someone said, I'd rather you use my trash can and
not leave it on the ground.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Well, yeah, okay, there's that too.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
That's up to you. I mean, that's your option. If
you want to make that deal with somebody, then you can.
But I wouldn't just assume that everybody okay with it.
I think her neighbor asked if it would be okay
if he leaves his colostomy bag in her trash can.
Oh sure, yeah, yeah, and she was not happy with that. No,

(19:12):
that was a no. Yeah, but she wants to toss
her dog's poop around everywhere. This is why you see
the public service announcements all the time, reminding people that
pets are a commitment and they require care and maintenance
and you'll just get them willy nilly. It's this kind
of thinking. Look, I'm just tired, I've got a bag
full of my dog's trap. Can I just put this

(19:32):
in anybody's garbage? Can? Does it really matter? Okay? Eight
eight eight seven seven seven sixty six forty the studio
and textual line to the show. You can also text
us at three five sixty five to one. This one
seems pretty cut and dry to me. It seems like
any reasonable person would agree with the first reaction to this,

(19:53):
which is, Yeah, if it's your dog and your bag
of dog poop, then that's on you to dispose of
that in your garbage, even if you have to carry
it the rest.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Of your walk, right, Yeah, Yeah, it's your dog. You're
not gonna just.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's not like you are walking along and you're drinking
a bottle of water and you get to the end
of that and the bottle is empty and you toss
that in somebody's garbage. Now, you shouldn't even be doing
that because it's not your garbage. They're paying for that
garbage to be collected and all that. But you can
at least make the argument that it's not something that

(20:33):
is foul smelling that could spill all over and somebody's
gonna have to be out there with a garden hose
spraying it out right, Yeah, because it's just an empty
plastic bottle. Okay to me, I don't, I don't. I'm
not clear on why this is such a debate.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I don't get that. Yeah, like it's take care of
your pet.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
We're missing something here, I mean what this seems so
very obvious to us. But you know when stupid people
try to reason eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty
six forty call us Texas three five sixty five to one.
What do you guys think.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Jack Loger and Nicki Drake the Nerve Center of north
central West Virginia. Yes, we're that powerful, the Jack and
Nicki shaw on one O two WVAQ.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Okay, then we are back with the exciting conclusion of
you be the judge settling issues in the court of
public opinion. Texts coming in here talking about this woman
who went to TikTok to ask the question, am I
supposed to carry my dog's poopbag with me the rest
of the walk home? Can't I just throw it in

(21:44):
the neighbor's trash? Can? Nicky and I are of the
opinion that no, you carry that with you, because why
should your neighbor have it in their trash can. That's
not fair to them, right, not something they've signed off on.
And as somebody pointed out, if that happens to break
or you know, gets cut and leaks inside this person's garbage, that's.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
A whole mess.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Oh gosh, that's a whole other thing. Okay, So that's
mostly what we're seeing coming in from you guys on
the text line. No, it's your dog, you carry it. Yeah,
that dog's poop is your responsibility. Somebody's textedent. You have
to carry it. You don't put it in someone else's
trash can. My dog has a clip for poop bags

(22:30):
on his leash, would recommend.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Oh, so you can just clip the bags, dear God,
onto the leash.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Let me see if I understand this. That's interesting when
you say your your dog has a clip for poop
bags on its leash. Are we talking about poop bags
that are full of its own poop after it takes
a dump and you clean it up and then you
attach it to the leash. Yeah, So what we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
I don't know now I'm wondering, or is it just
something that holds empty bags and then you pull off
an empty bag, and then can you clip it back on,
just like is there like a little loopy thing and
you can.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I only have pets that poop in a box inside
of my house and then refuse to make eye contact
with me. So I'm not really familiar with how this
works with walking a dog, but it seems to me
like if your dog is walking around with a bag
of its own poop attached to it, that's its neck,

(23:28):
But that can't be good for the dog self esteem. Okay,
I'm just saying, let's try to keep it somewhere high
on the leash and not down, you know, lower toward
the dog, because again, we should get to a point
where that yeah, I mean, imagine the dog is walking around.
Let's say you have a bag of its own excrement
on its collar and it's walking around like, uh, pooped

(23:51):
over there, and I have to wear it because it's shameful.
Let's get into the this servers at just a hants
singing happy birthday yay or nay? Is my question to
use a something that you enjoy, something you want thrust

(24:14):
up on you, or you'd rather be left alone. And
we have an example here of a guy from Olive
Garden singing Happy Birthday to a customer, and he decided
to do it just like Marilyn Monroe did it with
Parsident Kennedy. Now, if you don't remember the Marilyn Monroe
Happy birth remember the president give you a little taste

(24:40):
good okay, pretty sexy when she does it, Happy birth
wrap it up. And you know who really liked that,
Jackie Kennedy. She loved it. Yeah, she was like, hey,
remember when the the Blonde Bombshell was singing and dancing

(25:00):
provocatively in front of you there during your birthday? That
was great, Let's have more of that. So this woman
went to Olive Garden and people with her apparently notified
the staff hates her birthday? Can you sing Happy Birthday?
And one of the servers was very happy to sing
Happy Birthday to her in a provocative and some would

(25:21):
say inappropriate fashion.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
Happy Oh cheh too.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Now, I have to admit that I like this when
it's happening to people who aren't me. If if I
were in this restaurant and witness that, I would have
a good laugh. I would. I would. I would find
that pretty entertaining. But that's where it ends. I don't
want to be bothered when I'm dining, whether they're singing
to me or somebody at my table too close? Okay,

(26:16):
justs Can I go to Texas Roadhouse all the time
and Niki on how long it's been since you've been
to Texas Roadhouse? But generally at least two or three
times during every meal, you will hear the servers all
yell yee, haul in unison and get ready because here
it comes. Oh it's going to be a full on
song and dance number hopefully in the distance. But it's,

(26:41):
let's say, kind of disruptive if you are, you know, adjacent, Sure, yeah, okay,
And some people really like this, some people will they
enjoy it, and then some people just really do not.
And so that's my question to you. How do you
feel about this? Do you want to be a spectacle?
Do you want the servers meaning to you in a restaurant?
Do you like that? Or would you rather really just

(27:03):
be left alone with your meal so you can eat
a peace? Right right now? I know you used to
work as a server. Were you required to sing to
people on their birthday? Of course?

Speaker 4 (27:11):
I was, yes, at multiple restaurants, really yes.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
So it was always learning the new song and all
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
The new song.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Yeah, well, because you know, when you go to a
new restaurant, you got to learn the new song and
all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
And practice wise, you have to practice the choreography. You
have to get that games. Yes, so when you take
the job as a server, you also have to do
like six months of tapped and learn how to do
the jazz hands and all this stuff. And in the
back instead of like cooks and people like that, they've
got a great big mirrored wall. Yeah, put on a
leotard and you have to go in there and practice

(27:45):
to get your choreography.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Down minet's before every shift.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, I'm glad we're having this conversation. This is this
is the secret side of being a server that a
lot of people don't know. They just would never suspect this.
It's very interesting to me.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
My favorite time to sing Happy Birthday was when all
of the people at the table wanted to embarrass the
birthday person because they hated the birthday situation going on.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
They hated the birthday person.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
No, the birthday person hated the situation like they didn't
want to be Oh, I see.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
I thought you met everybody at the table hated the
person who was having the birthday and they wanted to
be tortured.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, they all want the spectacle.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Trot Nikki, I hear it ever singing in this guy's face.
How did you feel about it? Did you? Did you
like doing it? Or okay?

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, like I didn't mind doing it.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
I'm now as an as an adult, Like it's got
to be the right friend group.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
What about bring on the birthday.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Song restaurant policy for people who worked as servers and
maybe were good servers but didn't really care for the
song and dance numbers? Did they get in trouble if
if they saw you kind of slinking away and not
participating in the song and dance numbers.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
We're not required to participate. It's just if you are available.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
So if you don't want to participate, you make yourself unavailable.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
But you bust some tables.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Do your actual job, okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Asmar as well, No.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Two don't you'll be and you

Speaker 3 (29:11):
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