August 4, 2025 • 28 mins
Jack and Nikki field a question from a listener who is embarrassed by his mom's provocative Facebook posts... and then get into a discussion about "social media shame" that somehow devolved into talking about attractive relatives. The show ends with the story of a TV show looking for people with insufferable parents.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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You you post a topic and we discuss it. That's
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to one. This is pretty interesting. Got a text from
this man saying, are you ready, Nikki Drake?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Quote. I just moved back to the area and reconciled
with my mom after six years of not talking.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Oh that's sweet.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes. I was horrified when she friended me on Facebook.
Her page looks like an only fans page with endless
shots of her and bikinis and revealing outfits. That's awkward,
it really is, and hilarious. It's clear she's clamoring for
endless attention and likes. I asked my sister if she
was aware of what our mom was doing. She got
mad at me and said, our mom is living her
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best life and I should be happy for her. What
do you guys think? Well, first of all, is your
sister Oprah, by any chance she's living her best life?
All right? Also, can you send us a link to
your mom's Facebook page for research? Yeah? I think we
(01:53):
need to see this so we can really form a
solid opinion on this formed opinion, Yeah, yeah, thank you.
It's going to be difficult really to analyze this without
seeing this for ourselves. This is a pretty awkward situation,
no question about it. And so what I want to
do is is toss out a two part question for
(02:13):
you mugs. Oh men, it's a two parter.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
First of all, let's focus specifically on this situation, see
if we can help this guy out. And then I'd
like to expand outside of that and just talk about
in general, when you have somebody in your family or
one of your friends with social media accounts that you
find pretty embarrassing, you know, then how do you deal
with that okay, because people tend to sometimes have guilt
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by association. They'll judge you by people that you're maybe
close friends with or family member, the stuff that they do.
They'll look at you and be like, well, you know
that's your sister, it's somebody in your family, probably the
same way. Well that's your best friend. I'm sure you're
just like it. Well no, no, I'm a different person. Yeah,
(03:01):
but you know how people are, right, yeah. Okay, So
beginning with this guy.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Thought to Nikki Drake, Okay, so I don't know how
your mom feels about Facebook friends, because that's one place
to start, because if you unfriend or word be like, hey,
I don't want to be linked on here, she may.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Take that personally A lot of people do.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Sure, so maybe just stay friended but unfollow. H Wait,
you don't have to see any of it, right, you know?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Just yeah, And then if she ever asks why you're
not liking any of her.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Posts, just be like, oh, well it didn't show.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Up all my timeline, right, Why didn't you like that?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
I've got so many people on there and I don't
really log in that often, and when I do, like,
you just haven't popped up.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'm generally not the kind of guy who likes to
click the like button when I see pictures of my
mom and social media. The thong just seems weird. It's
a weird Uh, look this woman that there's that? Okay,
anything else you wanted to add before I jump in.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I just think it's the easiest, least aggressive option.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I think what you're saying probably that solves the problem
of him seeing it himself. Yeah, But then I think
there's the broader problem of him just being embarrassed by
it because people know that's his mom, and he just
moved back to the area, so he's going to be
running into a lot of people who sees that, people
who know him and his mom, and be like, hey,
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I saw your mom naked on the internet. Okay, all right,
you know that's fine. I'm not sure what this woman
is up to, because generally when people do stuff like that,
it runs the gamut from just looking for attention to
actively advertising availability, right, you know, Yeah, I mean it's
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somewhere in that. Yeah, it's somewhere in there. She might
just be basking in the attention and the comments and
people liking it and makes her feel good. She's doing
it for that reason, or she might be like, hey, fellas,
I'm available. I mean though, like, yeah, it's awkward.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Nothing, but there's nothing really he can do.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
There's nothing he can do.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah, he's got to get.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Over the embarrassment on his own, Like he's got to
deal with that internal feel.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I think he can continue to be embarrassed, but just
he has to be quiet about it. He just has
to keep his embarrassment to himself because you know, what
are you going to do? You can't. You can't tell her. Look,
I don't want you doing this right, You can't. It's
your mom. By the way, here's another quick thought on this.
I think this guy might be having trouble also seeing
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her as something other than his mom, because keep in mind,
everybody else she's just a woman, but to him it's
his mom. So nobody sees their mom as a as
a sexual being, as a yeah, yeah, as yes, it's
just yes, she's not a woman, she's my mom. So
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you got to keep that in mind. When other people
look at her, they're not seeing her the same way
you see.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
It's different.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
They're seeing her naked. We're going to go in a
weird place right now, and I want you to stay
with me. Okay, I'm ready for This is gonna sound
creepy and possibly inappropriate at the very beginning.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Thank you for the warning.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, I just but just hear it out. Okay, this
is something to think about. Okay, all right, don't jump
to ridiculous inappropriate conclusions.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I'm already there.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay. I have tried to do everything I can to
put some boundaries around this, put some guardrails in here. Okay.
So we were talking about that's right. This text that
came in from a guy saying that his mom is
posting what he considers to be inappropriate photos all over
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social media. She's in bikini, she's in revealing outfit, and
he's repulsed by it. And I suggested that maybe one
of the problems this guy has is that he can't
separate this woman from her momhood because it's his mom,
and he can't see her as just a woman the
way other people would see her. He sees her as
that's my mom. So he's grossed out by this. Well,
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somebody's texted this in, and this is true. This is
something else that I have considered in the PASTA says
this text her You're right about how he sees her
as his mom and not a woman. Guys with hot
sisters are the same way. I tell my buddy his
sister is hot, and he's like, what Amber, But she
is very hot. Okay. That's really interesting to me real
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because the question is is it possible for you to
accurately assess the attractiveness of your family members. I'm talking
about your brother, your sister, your mom, your dad, because
people outside of the family don't see them the way
you do. And remember, the people you find attractive are
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all from other families, right, right, And maybe your hot
girlfriend is some guy's sister, right. So can you look
at somebody in your family and accurately assess and objectively,
objectively obsess how attractive they are on the market to
other people? Is that possible? Or is there an evolutionary
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revulsion that we have that keeps us from doing that?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Refrain from making cousin joke in West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Thank you here all good, Thank you so much. I
appreciate that, and thank you for staying inside those guardrails
after her. Now a couple of minutes ago, that's.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
An interesting question, it is, you know, now, I kind
of want to go scroll through my family members socialism.
I mean, I only have one sister and she doesn't
have social media. I don't think I could objectively assess
that situation. But I'm wondering, because I am the oldest
of ten grandkids, if I could go through all my
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first cousins and like, see if I could rank them
I guess on scale of one to ten, and then
show you and see if it matches up. I wonder
if the science experiment would be more awkward.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, I think you'd have to post photos of these
people and have other people rank them, and then compare
those rankings to your rankings to see how close you're getting.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Because, by the way, this also goes the other direction.
We've talked about this before. When parents have ugly children,
do they know those children are ugly because their kid,
it's their kid, and they love that kid and it
is the fruit of their loins. Sure, and so they
have a lot of bias toward that kid. Do they
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know that their kids are not attractive? Can they assess that?
I don't know. I don't know how that works, but
I do know, like this text that came in, I've
seen that situation several times where I've been friends with
somebody and they have a really hot sister in your life,
your sister, and they go, she's disgusting. What do you
(10:19):
mean she's disgusting if you weren't related to or I mean,
you would see her the way I see her. See again,
are you glad I threw down the guardrail?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Thank you for the guardrails.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And by the way, let me just say this, if
you are not from West Virginia, if you're listening in
Pennsylvania this morning, or Maryland, or maybe you're on the
interstate and you're driving through West Virginia when you get
back to wherever you're from, you don't need to say, hey,
I was in West Virginia. They're trying to figure out
how to determine how attractive relatives are. They're not interested, Okay,
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they're really not, So just you don't need to bring
that up. You see a text here, you want to
toss in.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Text that popped in here.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
My son is nineteen and in college I had him
young and his friends tell him I'm hot.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
He has stopped introducing me to his friends. See see
what I mean? There you go, there we go. He
can't possibly look at her the way his friends look
at her. Thank you, and by the way, can you
send in some photos so we can judge this. We'll
tell you how attractive you are. And now from the
people who brought you shopping shame comes social media, shame,
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shame studio and text lines again. Open triple eight, triple seven,
sixty six forty call us textus there. You can also
text us at three five sixty five to one. As
we talk about people around you humiliating you on social
media and how you deal with it, and I think,
like I was saying earlier, one of the problems that
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you see is that somehow people associate you with stuff
that other people are doing on social media because those
people are in your family or your friend group, and
they look at it like somehow, even though you're not
directly posting it, that you are involved in it. It's
basking on you in some way, It's reflecting on you.
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I don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I had this happen to me recently where my friend
was like, h I see that you are friends with
so and.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So, and I was like, I have no idea who
this person is. They told me the name. I'm like,
are you sure? Like I don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
I have a lot of people on Facebook, so I
go to look. I'm like, yep, you're right, they're there.
I was like, I have never met this person. They
live in the area, they listen to the show, you know,
they friended me. Yeah, And then they go be like so,
by the way, I have a restraining order against them,
and I'm like what, and they tell me this whole story,
just like wow, yeah, and I was like, I was like,
(12:45):
I honestly like, I don't know who they are, Like,
they just friended.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Me, and you know, yeah. I think my policy generally
tends to be to judge people according to how they
treat me and the relationship that I have with them.
There are exceptions, of course, if you find out somebody is,
you know, committing homicide or something, I mean, yeah, you
wanna yeah, but it's got to be pretty extreme. I
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don't unfriend people based on their opinions on things, because
you know, then you're just gonna end up putting yourself
in a situation where you're not gonna be friends with anybody.
I mean, I don't agree with I don't think there's
anybody on the planet probably agrees with all of my
opinions on everything. So I'm not gonna get really nitpicky
about that. So, you know whatever, that's that's my thinking.
(13:33):
We got a text in here, guy said, my brother
argues politics all the time on his Facebook page, and
he finds that humiliating that his brother is always on
there arguing with people.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
It seems like such a waste of energy.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It is because you're really just you're not gonna change
anybody's mind. You're not going to go on there.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, and no, that's not where.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
That's not the place or the time. It doesn't work,
you know that if you if you can change anybody's
mind at all, it's a slow, gradual process like erosion.
You know. It's like I know people that maybe I've
changed their minds on some things, or they've changed my
mind my mind on some things, and it's because of
(14:18):
conversations over time. Sure, right, and then maybe slowly you
kind of move in one direction. But I don't know
anybody who's ever logged into Facebook and saw somebody do
a rant on politics, yeah and go yeah, okay, sure
if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna
change a honey, let's go change your voter registration. This
insane person Facebook this oh man, that meme he posted
(14:43):
that changes everything.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The Jack and Nikki Show one two w v AQ.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
This is the part of the show where I swing
for the fences and either hit a home run or
fail miserably and we are humiliated in front of a
larger group of people. Oh, okay, because this this depends
entirely on your participation, all right, So drink me around,
get in here and participate in this. This has a
lot of potential. There is a dating show that is
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offering eight thousand dollars to singles who have overbearing parents.
Now I do have the website here, and I can
tell you where to go and get this.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Okay, what what's happening like to do is.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Have you tell us first and then we'll go from there.
All right, So this show it's eight grand to singles
with pushy, overbearing or insufferable parents. Casting agents are looking
for people between the ages of twenty five and fifty.
The contestants will earn one thousand to two thousand dollars
per week during filming. The casting director is in particular
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looking for singles whose parents are quote super cultural or religious,
or just in general overbearing. Wow, this is what they're
trying to find distasting everybody. Look, we've all been there.
We know people like this. We know people who again
you meet their parents and they're just like, oh boy,
I tell you what, these parents ain't right, right, And
(16:14):
it's it's really unfortunate because there are people who have
missed out on relationship opportunities because their parents are so insufferable. Right,
you meet somebody, you like them, they come back and
meet your parents and go, I'm sorry, I can't. I
can't spend the rest of my life around this. Right.
(16:36):
So this is really what I'm hoping to get started
right now, this conversation on this show. Okay, eight eight
eight seven seven seven sixty six forty that's the number,
that's the text line, and you can text us at
three five sixty five to one. Nikki Drake, would you
like to begin with perhaps stories of well, let's do
(16:57):
this right, insufferable pair friends.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
The only insufferable parents that I've ever come across were
my sisters in laws, and uh, they were very overbearing.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Oh yeah, let's trash talk them.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Okay, Oh that's fine.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I don't I don't care, I don't like them.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
All right, all right, here we go.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
They flat out told my sister and their son.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Hey, uh, she's she's a bad person.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
We don't want you to marry her. They didn't like her,
nothing to do with her. Uh. And I only witnessed
everything in person when my sister gave birth to her
first child. And we're all in the hospital because you know,
she went into labor early, so I flew down to
be with them, and uh, the mother in law is
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sitting in the corner of the room.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
My sister's having trouble getting the pre me.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
To latch and feed the baby, and the mother in
law says, I bet I could feed them.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I challenge you. Yeah, yes, I see you're struggling to breastfeed.
I challenge you.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
She wouldn't let her own son hold the baby. She
constantly wanted to be holding this child hours into the world. Okay, yeah,
it was a mess. But she then continuously just started
dropping by and telling my sister that she was a
horrible mom and wasn't doing good enough, and her own
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son wasn't doing good enough, and all of them that
she should have the child because she knows how to
raise kids, because she's already done it, and yeah, it
was a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Man, I do I think you're understanding, Nikki. I'm looking
for insufferable stories, not stories of wonderful people. Okay, because
this woman sounds great, right, selfless? Right, she really sounds wonderful.
That's all she's trying to do is help people. And
you guys just don't understand, right, because exactly you just
don't get it. Man, we don't get it. That's the problem.
You don't want it to help, that's all she wants.
(19:06):
You guys are just self centered jerks eight eight eight
seven seven seven sixty six forty Again the number to
the show. You can text this at three five sixty
five to one or on the studio line. That I
think Nikki is a fantastic example of really what we're
talking about here.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
I really think that it all started with the dating
process though, and she was overbearing and insufferable then, and
yeah continued to be.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So you won't be surprised to know that my example
in this is my own mom, because my mom has
never met a woman who was good enough for HG. Sure,
and so mom has always just it's really awful too,
because it's that It's like, you know, how if you
go and you look at rocks in a river, how
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they've been worn down by the constant water pressure.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And then they're all smooth and shiny.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
That's what Mom does to people. She just just constantly, slowly,
just little comments and little attitude, little snarky, just wears
people down to the point where they just want to
give up on life. Sure, and Mom has done that
really to any woman who's come around, because none of
them are good enough for HG. And it's the little things,
you know, the way she cooks, the way she takes
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care of her house, the way she irons their clothes.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I mean, the way she inhales is just.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Inhaling and exhaling. It's just.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Taught her to breathe.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
But I guess that's miner I mean compared to the
story you told. I mean, at least at least this woman,
the story you had about her, she is openly insufferable.
It's overt. It's not the way my mom does it,
which is very subtle, kind of around the back and
just the you know thousand cuts. Yeah, yeah, all right,
(20:53):
Well I think this has an opportunity for hilarity, but
we will find out from you guys, So participants eight
or I will have to come back from the break
and say terrible things to you and about you. And
I don't want to have to do that, but I
will attack you if you don't participate. There's a line, Okay,
don't cross it, or you can trek again. Just like
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the story of a woman you told I'm trying to
serve the community. I'm trying to do the work of
the people, okay. And if they don't get it and
they don't participate, then that's not on me. The parents
are ruining it. There is a dating show looking for
just this scenario, and they're willing to pay you eight
thousand dollars. Okay, So you go and you're contestant on
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their little program. You earn one thousand to two thousand
dollars per week during filming, and all you have to
do is humiliate yourself in front of an international audience
by revealing the deepest secrets of your personal life and
destroying the relationships that you have with your parents. It
seems like a pretty good deal.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Yeah it does.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, that's definitely worth eight thousand dollars. But I don't know.
Maybe you're really strapped for cash, and maybe you're willing
to make this deal. I'm going to reveal the website
where you can go look this up as soon as
we get to the texts and the calls from you
guys that I requested earlier, and I did threaten you,
so I know you're participating under duress in the show
(22:21):
today because you're trying to avoid being yelled at. Yeah,
it doesn't matter why you're doing it. The main thing
is that you are doing it. I didn't want to
have to threaten you, but it worked, So let's get
to it. Nikki Drake, what are we seeing on the
textual line?
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Would you like a mother in law or a mother story?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Your choice?
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Okay, we'll start with mother in law? Okay, my mother
in law is so bad?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
How bad is she.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
That we sent in screenshots to doctor Phil of the
things she said to us and about us, and the
head producer called the next day wanting us on their show.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh wow? And then what happens?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Interesting?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, are you doing it? Did you do it yet?
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Phil? Do you have a link to your episode because
I'd love to watch, yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Or if you haven't gone yet? When are you going,
and can we get you on the phone and follow
your Doctor Phil experience up to and including when he
dips his bald head and oil and rubs it all
over the guests. That's part of the pre show warm up.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, A lot of a lot of times a producer
will come out and talk to the audience. Sometimes they'll
have a comedian come out. But when you go to
the Doctor Phil show, he comes out shirtless and he
dips his bald head and a bucket of oil, then
he rubs it on people. That true story. I mean,
why would I make that up? I don't know why
I'd be wasting everyone's time if I did. Sure, can't
make it up. Okay, let me go to the phones
here and then we can finish up with another text. Okay,
(23:40):
all right, you are on the Jack and Nikki Show.
What do you have for us?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Well, a few years ago I ended up having to
lose I lost my job and my house because of
my father's health, and I had to move back home
with him in my mid thirties, and I'm trying, I'm working,
I'm dating someone, I'm trying by hell to get out,
(24:06):
but my mom is just so overbearing and demanding, trying
to get me to just stay to help her deal
with my father. And my father he's lost his leg
and he's in a wheelchair now he can still do things,
but she baby seems like he's just came out of
(24:27):
the hospital and it's been over two years and she's
always blowing my phone up. I need you to help,
I need this, come help this. It's cost me jobs.
They said, it cost me my house.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Wow. So your message to your mom's Look, I know dad,
he's in bad spot, but the surgery is two years ago.
Leg schmegs. I am trying to date your mom. I'm trying.
I'm trying to get my groove r. Yeah, why don't
you leave me alone you and your elderly problems.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, I'm trying to get my life back together.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay, Well listen, buddy, good luck with that. I hope
things work out. And this woman that you're seeing, how
does she feel about your mom? Does she think she's insufferable?
Is it screwing that up for you?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It is definitely a challenge, Nikki.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
What advice would you offer to this man?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Don't start dating until you actually move out.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
That's good advice.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
I mean, because if you have all of this going on, yep,
that's going to be a lot on not only your plate,
but emotionally the person you're trying to date as well.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Agreed, and I would add until you do move out,
when it comes to your mom and your girlfriend, you
got to keep them separated. Yes, all right, buddy, thanks
for the call in good luck. Ye, that is not
exactly the kind of story I was anticipating. No, I
thought we were going to hear more stories like the
one that you had with your sister's mother in law
(25:54):
trying to wrestle a newborn baby away from her so
she could breastfeed it in front of everyone. Yeah, that's
that's the kind of story I was anticipating. Not my
elderly father lost his legs and you know mom is
babying him. Basically, I just did. But listen, sir, again,
we appreciate the phone call. Best of luck to you.
(26:16):
I do hope things work out. Okay, what else are
you seeing on the text line here? NICKI?
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Okay, I've got another story here for you.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
This happened to my mom. She told me her mother
was so controlling. How controlling was she that she wouldn't
let her off the porch. She had to take care
of her siblings, make sure they were clean and everything
when her mom would go somewhere else.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
But the boys were allowed to leave whenever they wanted,
but she couldn't.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
She had to do everything at the house and not
even step off the porch.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I don't. I don't didn't know controlling until I heard that.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Hmm, that's interesting. I didn't know Cinderella listened to the show.
It's unfortunate. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So I can't leave
the porch.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It is. And unless you know the person that you're
trying to date is really into just swinging, having some
lemonade and watching the sun go down, it's gonna limit
your options in the dating market. Sure right, I'd like
to date you, but the date must be confined to
the porch of my home. Fine, I'll see you there. Okay,
(27:21):
Well I think we're done here. Nikki Oh, I need
to tell you guys where you can go if you
want to try to get eight thousand dollars by disgracing
yourself and your family on international stage. Backstage dot com
is the website backstage dot com. Go and look this
show up, and you can contact a casting agent and
you can tell them your story, and then maybe we'll
(27:43):
turn on the TV one day and see you up there,
disgracing yourself and earning eight thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Let us know how it goes
If you're listening to the Jack and Nikki Show podcast
everywhere you get your podcasts and at WBQ dot com,
join Jack and Nicky live weekday mornings from six to
ten on one O two WVAQ.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's time now to turn the show over to you
because you ask for it.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You for it.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You ask for it, your opportunity to drive the show.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
To trap your life over to us.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
The wheel and pull it right out of the ditch
that we're headed toward. Yeah, you you asked for it.
You you post a topic and we discuss it. That's
how you ask for it. Works again. Triple eight, triple seven,
sixty six forty number to the show. Call us text us.
There you get text us at three five sixty five
to one. This is pretty interesting. Got a text from
this man saying, are you ready, Nikki Drake?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Quote. I just moved back to the area and reconciled
with my mom after six years of not talking.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Oh that's sweet.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes. I was horrified when she friended me on Facebook.
Her page looks like an only fans page with endless
shots of her and bikinis and revealing outfits. That's awkward,
it really is, and hilarious. It's clear she's clamoring for
endless attention and likes. I asked my sister if she
was aware of what our mom was doing. She got
mad at me and said, our mom is living her
(01:31):
best life and I should be happy for her. What
do you guys think? Well, first of all, is your
sister Oprah, by any chance she's living her best life?
All right? Also, can you send us a link to
your mom's Facebook page for research? Yeah? I think we
(01:53):
need to see this so we can really form a
solid opinion on this formed opinion, Yeah, yeah, thank you.
It's going to be difficult really to analyze this without
seeing this for ourselves. This is a pretty awkward situation,
no question about it. And so what I want to
do is is toss out a two part question for
(02:13):
you mugs. Oh men, it's a two parter.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
First of all, let's focus specifically on this situation, see
if we can help this guy out. And then I'd
like to expand outside of that and just talk about
in general, when you have somebody in your family or
one of your friends with social media accounts that you
find pretty embarrassing, you know, then how do you deal
with that okay, because people tend to sometimes have guilt
(02:40):
by association. They'll judge you by people that you're maybe
close friends with or family member, the stuff that they do.
They'll look at you and be like, well, you know
that's your sister, it's somebody in your family, probably the
same way. Well that's your best friend. I'm sure you're
just like it. Well no, no, I'm a different person. Yeah,
(03:01):
but you know how people are, right, yeah. Okay, So
beginning with this guy.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Thought to Nikki Drake, Okay, so I don't know how
your mom feels about Facebook friends, because that's one place
to start, because if you unfriend or word be like, hey,
I don't want to be linked on here, she may.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Take that personally A lot of people do.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Sure, so maybe just stay friended but unfollow. H Wait,
you don't have to see any of it, right, you know?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Just yeah, And then if she ever asks why you're
not liking any of her.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Posts, just be like, oh, well it didn't show.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Up all my timeline, right, Why didn't you like that?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
I've got so many people on there and I don't
really log in that often, and when I do, like,
you just haven't popped up.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'm generally not the kind of guy who likes to
click the like button when I see pictures of my
mom and social media. The thong just seems weird. It's
a weird Uh, look this woman that there's that? Okay,
anything else you wanted to add before I jump in.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I just think it's the easiest, least aggressive option.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I think what you're saying probably that solves the problem
of him seeing it himself. Yeah, But then I think
there's the broader problem of him just being embarrassed by
it because people know that's his mom, and he just
moved back to the area, so he's going to be
running into a lot of people who sees that, people
who know him and his mom, and be like, hey,
(04:27):
I saw your mom naked on the internet. Okay, all right,
you know that's fine. I'm not sure what this woman
is up to, because generally when people do stuff like that,
it runs the gamut from just looking for attention to
actively advertising availability, right, you know, Yeah, I mean it's
(04:47):
somewhere in that. Yeah, it's somewhere in there. She might
just be basking in the attention and the comments and
people liking it and makes her feel good. She's doing
it for that reason, or she might be like, hey, fellas,
I'm available. I mean though, like, yeah, it's awkward.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Nothing, but there's nothing really he can do.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
There's nothing he can do.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah, he's got to get.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Over the embarrassment on his own, Like he's got to
deal with that internal feel.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I think he can continue to be embarrassed, but just
he has to be quiet about it. He just has
to keep his embarrassment to himself because you know, what
are you going to do? You can't. You can't tell her. Look,
I don't want you doing this right, You can't. It's
your mom. By the way, here's another quick thought on this.
I think this guy might be having trouble also seeing
(05:39):
her as something other than his mom, because keep in mind,
everybody else she's just a woman, but to him it's
his mom. So nobody sees their mom as a as
a sexual being, as a yeah, yeah, as yes, it's
just yes, she's not a woman, she's my mom. So
(06:02):
you got to keep that in mind. When other people
look at her, they're not seeing her the same way
you see.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
It's different.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
They're seeing her naked. We're going to go in a
weird place right now, and I want you to stay
with me. Okay, I'm ready for This is gonna sound
creepy and possibly inappropriate at the very beginning.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Thank you for the warning.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, I just but just hear it out. Okay, this
is something to think about. Okay, all right, don't jump
to ridiculous inappropriate conclusions.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I'm already there.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay. I have tried to do everything I can to
put some boundaries around this, put some guardrails in here. Okay.
So we were talking about that's right. This text that
came in from a guy saying that his mom is
posting what he considers to be inappropriate photos all over
(06:57):
social media. She's in bikini, she's in revealing outfit, and
he's repulsed by it. And I suggested that maybe one
of the problems this guy has is that he can't
separate this woman from her momhood because it's his mom,
and he can't see her as just a woman the
way other people would see her. He sees her as
that's my mom. So he's grossed out by this. Well,
(07:20):
somebody's texted this in, and this is true. This is
something else that I have considered in the PASTA says
this text her You're right about how he sees her
as his mom and not a woman. Guys with hot
sisters are the same way. I tell my buddy his
sister is hot, and he's like, what Amber, But she
is very hot. Okay. That's really interesting to me real
(07:48):
because the question is is it possible for you to
accurately assess the attractiveness of your family members. I'm talking
about your brother, your sister, your mom, your dad, because
people outside of the family don't see them the way
you do. And remember, the people you find attractive are
(08:09):
all from other families, right, right, And maybe your hot
girlfriend is some guy's sister, right. So can you look
at somebody in your family and accurately assess and objectively,
objectively obsess how attractive they are on the market to
other people? Is that possible? Or is there an evolutionary
(08:31):
revulsion that we have that keeps us from doing that?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Refrain from making cousin joke in West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Thank you here all good, Thank you so much. I
appreciate that, and thank you for staying inside those guardrails
after her. Now a couple of minutes ago, that's.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
An interesting question, it is, you know, now, I kind
of want to go scroll through my family members socialism.
I mean, I only have one sister and she doesn't
have social media. I don't think I could objectively assess
that situation. But I'm wondering, because I am the oldest
of ten grandkids, if I could go through all my
(09:09):
first cousins and like, see if I could rank them
I guess on scale of one to ten, and then
show you and see if it matches up. I wonder
if the science experiment would be more awkward.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, I think you'd have to post photos of these
people and have other people rank them, and then compare
those rankings to your rankings to see how close you're getting.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Because, by the way, this also goes the other direction.
We've talked about this before. When parents have ugly children,
do they know those children are ugly because their kid,
it's their kid, and they love that kid and it
is the fruit of their loins. Sure, and so they
have a lot of bias toward that kid. Do they
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know that their kids are not attractive? Can they assess that?
I don't know. I don't know how that works, but
I do know, like this text that came in, I've
seen that situation several times where I've been friends with
somebody and they have a really hot sister in your life,
your sister, and they go, she's disgusting. What do you
(10:19):
mean she's disgusting if you weren't related to or I mean,
you would see her the way I see her. See again,
are you glad I threw down the guardrail?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Thank you for the guardrails.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And by the way, let me just say this, if
you are not from West Virginia, if you're listening in
Pennsylvania this morning, or Maryland, or maybe you're on the
interstate and you're driving through West Virginia when you get
back to wherever you're from, you don't need to say, hey,
I was in West Virginia. They're trying to figure out
how to determine how attractive relatives are. They're not interested, Okay,
(10:55):
they're really not, So just you don't need to bring
that up. You see a text here, you want to
toss in.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Text that popped in here.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
My son is nineteen and in college I had him
young and his friends tell him I'm hot.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
He has stopped introducing me to his friends. See see
what I mean? There you go, there we go. He
can't possibly look at her the way his friends look
at her. Thank you, and by the way, can you
send in some photos so we can judge this. We'll
tell you how attractive you are. And now from the
people who brought you shopping shame comes social media, shame,
(11:26):
shame studio and text lines again. Open triple eight, triple seven,
sixty six forty call us textus there. You can also
text us at three five sixty five to one. As
we talk about people around you humiliating you on social
media and how you deal with it, and I think,
like I was saying earlier, one of the problems that
(11:46):
you see is that somehow people associate you with stuff
that other people are doing on social media because those
people are in your family or your friend group, and
they look at it like somehow, even though you're not
directly posting it, that you are involved in it. It's
basking on you in some way, It's reflecting on you.
(12:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I had this happen to me recently where my friend
was like, h I see that you are friends with
so and.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So, and I was like, I have no idea who
this person is. They told me the name. I'm like,
are you sure? Like I don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
I have a lot of people on Facebook, so I
go to look. I'm like, yep, you're right, they're there.
I was like, I have never met this person. They
live in the area, they listen to the show, you know,
they friended me. Yeah, And then they go be like so,
by the way, I have a restraining order against them,
and I'm like what, and they tell me this whole story,
just like wow, yeah, and I was like, I was like,
(12:45):
I honestly like, I don't know who they are, Like,
they just friended.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Me, and you know, yeah. I think my policy generally
tends to be to judge people according to how they
treat me and the relationship that I have with them.
There are exceptions, of course, if you find out somebody is,
you know, committing homicide or something, I mean, yeah, you
wanna yeah, but it's got to be pretty extreme. I
(13:13):
don't unfriend people based on their opinions on things, because
you know, then you're just gonna end up putting yourself
in a situation where you're not gonna be friends with anybody.
I mean, I don't agree with I don't think there's
anybody on the planet probably agrees with all of my
opinions on everything. So I'm not gonna get really nitpicky
about that. So, you know whatever, that's that's my thinking.
(13:33):
We got a text in here, guy said, my brother
argues politics all the time on his Facebook page, and
he finds that humiliating that his brother is always on
there arguing with people.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
It seems like such a waste of energy.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It is because you're really just you're not gonna change
anybody's mind. You're not going to go on there.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, and no, that's not where.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
That's not the place or the time. It doesn't work,
you know that if you if you can change anybody's
mind at all, it's a slow, gradual process like erosion.
You know. It's like I know people that maybe I've
changed their minds on some things, or they've changed my
mind my mind on some things, and it's because of
(14:18):
conversations over time. Sure, right, and then maybe slowly you
kind of move in one direction. But I don't know
anybody who's ever logged into Facebook and saw somebody do
a rant on politics, yeah and go yeah, okay, sure
if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna
change a honey, let's go change your voter registration. This
insane person Facebook this oh man, that meme he posted
(14:43):
that changes everything.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The Jack and Nikki Show one two w v AQ.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
This is the part of the show where I swing
for the fences and either hit a home run or
fail miserably and we are humiliated in front of a
larger group of people. Oh, okay, because this this depends
entirely on your participation, all right, So drink me around,
get in here and participate in this. This has a
lot of potential. There is a dating show that is
(15:12):
offering eight thousand dollars to singles who have overbearing parents.
Now I do have the website here, and I can
tell you where to go and get this.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Okay, what what's happening like to do is.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Have you tell us first and then we'll go from there.
All right, So this show it's eight grand to singles
with pushy, overbearing or insufferable parents. Casting agents are looking
for people between the ages of twenty five and fifty.
The contestants will earn one thousand to two thousand dollars
per week during filming. The casting director is in particular
(15:51):
looking for singles whose parents are quote super cultural or religious,
or just in general overbearing. Wow, this is what they're
trying to find distasting everybody. Look, we've all been there.
We know people like this. We know people who again
you meet their parents and they're just like, oh boy,
I tell you what, these parents ain't right, right, And
(16:14):
it's it's really unfortunate because there are people who have
missed out on relationship opportunities because their parents are so insufferable. Right,
you meet somebody, you like them, they come back and
meet your parents and go, I'm sorry, I can't. I
can't spend the rest of my life around this. Right.
(16:36):
So this is really what I'm hoping to get started
right now, this conversation on this show. Okay, eight eight
eight seven seven seven sixty six forty that's the number,
that's the text line, and you can text us at
three five sixty five to one. Nikki Drake, would you
like to begin with perhaps stories of well, let's do
(16:57):
this right, insufferable pair friends.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
The only insufferable parents that I've ever come across were
my sisters in laws, and uh, they were very overbearing.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Oh yeah, let's trash talk them.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Okay, Oh that's fine.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I don't I don't care, I don't like them.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
All right, all right, here we go.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
They flat out told my sister and their son.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Hey, uh, she's she's a bad person.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
We don't want you to marry her. They didn't like her,
nothing to do with her. Uh. And I only witnessed
everything in person when my sister gave birth to her
first child. And we're all in the hospital because you know,
she went into labor early, so I flew down to
be with them, and uh, the mother in law is
(18:00):
sitting in the corner of the room.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
My sister's having trouble getting the pre me.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
To latch and feed the baby, and the mother in
law says, I bet I could feed them.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I challenge you. Yeah, yes, I see you're struggling to breastfeed.
I challenge you.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
She wouldn't let her own son hold the baby. She
constantly wanted to be holding this child hours into the world. Okay, yeah,
it was a mess. But she then continuously just started
dropping by and telling my sister that she was a
horrible mom and wasn't doing good enough, and her own
(18:38):
son wasn't doing good enough, and all of them that
she should have the child because she knows how to
raise kids, because she's already done it, and yeah, it
was a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Man, I do I think you're understanding, Nikki. I'm looking
for insufferable stories, not stories of wonderful people. Okay, because
this woman sounds great, right, selfless? Right, she really sounds wonderful.
That's all she's trying to do is help people. And
you guys just don't understand, right, because exactly you just
don't get it. Man, we don't get it. That's the problem.
You don't want it to help, that's all she wants.
(19:06):
You guys are just self centered jerks eight eight eight
seven seven seven sixty six forty Again the number to
the show. You can text this at three five sixty
five to one or on the studio line. That I
think Nikki is a fantastic example of really what we're
talking about here.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
I really think that it all started with the dating
process though, and she was overbearing and insufferable then, and
yeah continued to be.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So you won't be surprised to know that my example
in this is my own mom, because my mom has
never met a woman who was good enough for HG. Sure,
and so mom has always just it's really awful too,
because it's that It's like, you know, how if you
go and you look at rocks in a river, how
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they've been worn down by the constant water pressure.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And then they're all smooth and shiny.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
That's what Mom does to people. She just just constantly, slowly,
just little comments and little attitude, little snarky, just wears
people down to the point where they just want to
give up on life. Sure, and Mom has done that
really to any woman who's come around, because none of
them are good enough for HG. And it's the little things,
you know, the way she cooks, the way she takes
(20:19):
care of her house, the way she irons their clothes.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I mean, the way she inhales is just.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Inhaling and exhaling. It's just.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Taught her to breathe.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
But I guess that's miner I mean compared to the
story you told. I mean, at least at least this woman,
the story you had about her, she is openly insufferable.
It's overt. It's not the way my mom does it,
which is very subtle, kind of around the back and
just the you know thousand cuts. Yeah, yeah, all right,
(20:53):
Well I think this has an opportunity for hilarity, but
we will find out from you guys, So participants eight
or I will have to come back from the break
and say terrible things to you and about you. And
I don't want to have to do that, but I
will attack you if you don't participate. There's a line, Okay,
don't cross it, or you can trek again. Just like
(21:14):
the story of a woman you told I'm trying to
serve the community. I'm trying to do the work of
the people, okay. And if they don't get it and
they don't participate, then that's not on me. The parents
are ruining it. There is a dating show looking for
just this scenario, and they're willing to pay you eight
thousand dollars. Okay, So you go and you're contestant on
(21:39):
their little program. You earn one thousand to two thousand
dollars per week during filming, and all you have to
do is humiliate yourself in front of an international audience
by revealing the deepest secrets of your personal life and
destroying the relationships that you have with your parents. It
seems like a pretty good deal.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Yeah it does.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, that's definitely worth eight thousand dollars. But I don't know.
Maybe you're really strapped for cash, and maybe you're willing
to make this deal. I'm going to reveal the website
where you can go look this up as soon as
we get to the texts and the calls from you
guys that I requested earlier, and I did threaten you,
so I know you're participating under duress in the show
(22:21):
today because you're trying to avoid being yelled at. Yeah,
it doesn't matter why you're doing it. The main thing
is that you are doing it. I didn't want to
have to threaten you, but it worked, So let's get
to it. Nikki Drake, what are we seeing on the
textual line?
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Would you like a mother in law or a mother story?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Your choice?
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Okay, we'll start with mother in law? Okay, my mother
in law is so bad?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
How bad is she.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
That we sent in screenshots to doctor Phil of the
things she said to us and about us, and the
head producer called the next day wanting us on their show.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh wow? And then what happens?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Interesting?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, are you doing it? Did you do it yet?
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Phil? Do you have a link to your episode because
I'd love to watch, yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Or if you haven't gone yet? When are you going,
and can we get you on the phone and follow
your Doctor Phil experience up to and including when he
dips his bald head and oil and rubs it all
over the guests. That's part of the pre show warm up.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, A lot of a lot of times a producer
will come out and talk to the audience. Sometimes they'll
have a comedian come out. But when you go to
the Doctor Phil show, he comes out shirtless and he
dips his bald head and a bucket of oil, then
he rubs it on people. That true story. I mean,
why would I make that up? I don't know why
I'd be wasting everyone's time if I did. Sure, can't
make it up. Okay, let me go to the phones
here and then we can finish up with another text. Okay,
(23:40):
all right, you are on the Jack and Nikki Show.
What do you have for us?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Well, a few years ago I ended up having to
lose I lost my job and my house because of
my father's health, and I had to move back home
with him in my mid thirties, and I'm trying, I'm working,
I'm dating someone, I'm trying by hell to get out,
(24:06):
but my mom is just so overbearing and demanding, trying
to get me to just stay to help her deal
with my father. And my father he's lost his leg
and he's in a wheelchair now he can still do things,
but she baby seems like he's just came out of
(24:27):
the hospital and it's been over two years and she's
always blowing my phone up. I need you to help,
I need this, come help this. It's cost me jobs.
They said, it cost me my house.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Wow. So your message to your mom's Look, I know dad,
he's in bad spot, but the surgery is two years ago.
Leg schmegs. I am trying to date your mom. I'm trying.
I'm trying to get my groove r. Yeah, why don't
you leave me alone you and your elderly problems.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, I'm trying to get my life back together.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay, Well listen, buddy, good luck with that. I hope
things work out. And this woman that you're seeing, how
does she feel about your mom? Does she think she's insufferable?
Is it screwing that up for you?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It is definitely a challenge, Nikki.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
What advice would you offer to this man?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Don't start dating until you actually move out.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
That's good advice.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
I mean, because if you have all of this going on, yep,
that's going to be a lot on not only your plate,
but emotionally the person you're trying to date as well.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Agreed, and I would add until you do move out,
when it comes to your mom and your girlfriend, you
got to keep them separated. Yes, all right, buddy, thanks
for the call in good luck. Ye, that is not
exactly the kind of story I was anticipating. No, I
thought we were going to hear more stories like the
one that you had with your sister's mother in law
(25:54):
trying to wrestle a newborn baby away from her so
she could breastfeed it in front of everyone. Yeah, that's
that's the kind of story I was anticipating. Not my
elderly father lost his legs and you know mom is
babying him. Basically, I just did. But listen, sir, again,
we appreciate the phone call. Best of luck to you.
(26:16):
I do hope things work out. Okay, what else are
you seeing on the text line here? NICKI?
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Okay, I've got another story here for you.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
This happened to my mom. She told me her mother
was so controlling. How controlling was she that she wouldn't
let her off the porch. She had to take care
of her siblings, make sure they were clean and everything
when her mom would go somewhere else.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
But the boys were allowed to leave whenever they wanted,
but she couldn't.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
She had to do everything at the house and not
even step off the porch.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I don't. I don't didn't know controlling until I heard that.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Hmm, that's interesting. I didn't know Cinderella listened to the show.
It's unfortunate. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So I can't leave
the porch.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It is. And unless you know the person that you're
trying to date is really into just swinging, having some
lemonade and watching the sun go down, it's gonna limit
your options in the dating market. Sure right, I'd like
to date you, but the date must be confined to
the porch of my home. Fine, I'll see you there. Okay,
(27:21):
Well I think we're done here. Nikki Oh, I need
to tell you guys where you can go if you
want to try to get eight thousand dollars by disgracing
yourself and your family on international stage. Backstage dot com
is the website backstage dot com. Go and look this
show up, and you can contact a casting agent and
you can tell them your story, and then maybe we'll
(27:43):
turn on the TV one day and see you up there,
disgracing yourself and earning eight thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Let us know how it goes
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