April 28, 2025 • 29 mins
Jack and Nikki talk about what it takes for you to walk out of a restaurant, take some surprisingly funny calls and texts from listeners about how they were ghosted and reveal more tipping scams.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let's get into this studio. Lines are open eight eight
eight seven seven seven sixty six forty. You can text
us as well. What I want to know is number one,
how you would handle this situation? Okay, okay, let's start
with that. And number two, what does it take for
you to walk out of an establishment, any establishment, restaurant,
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a bar, you know whatever. Okay, where's the line for you?
I guess is what I'm getting at all right now.
A few minutes ago in the TS, I may have
been overly dramatic, Okay, I it's not really something happened
to me or that I was really wronged. It was
just I was displeased and I left, and I just
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want to know, like I said, where the line is
for you guys? Okay? Because people we're different. So Jessica
and I we were kind of jonesing for a certain
kind of food over the weekend, and we decided to
go out and got something to eat. We went over
to Bridgeport went to this place that we had never
been to before. Okay, all right, it's like, hey, let's
try this out. It's a local place, you know, it's
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not a national chain that it looks good, it smells good.
We pulled into the parking lot, got out, and it
was just like, oh man, this smells fantastic. I can't
wait to get in here and get into this. Yeah,
it's good.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Stuff, right, I get see you following like bugs Bunny
when he lifts off the ground and his.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Nose is just following through. Yeah, it was very similar
to that. Yeah, and so we go up, I open
the front door, Jessica starts to step in, and we
hear live music, oh, blaring, like really loud live music
just coming through the whole thing. Some dude in there
with a guitar and an amplifier.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Ish.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
All right, Now again, I know that's not a deal
breaker for a lot of people. Sure, I get it.
But we wanted to sit down and be able to
talk and get kind of caught up on our day
and just relax a little bit. That wasn't what we
were looking for at that particular time. That's not the
vibe we were after. We don't need a guy in
there with an amplifier singing his songs. Okay, okay, fine,
(02:28):
now fine, However, there's more. So we open the door
and this is the first thing we hear, the guitar
and the singing. We look at each other and we're
both thinking, let's bail. And then we look back in.
The problem is that the smell was so good. The
food smelled so good. I'm like struggling, must override patre
(02:49):
for terrible music, must enjoy meat products. So we look
in there and there he is not the singer, but
a completely intoxicated man with the beard down to the
middle of his chest, wallet on a chain, beer in hand.
(03:09):
He is totally wasted, and he is dancing in the
middle of the restaurant.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Now, please tell me because of that?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
No, I again, depending on the mood, like if this,
if this is like Saturday afternoon and we're out on
my motorcycle and we run into that, Yeah, I'm gonna
watch that, have some fun. This is Saturday night. We
want to be able to relax and talk a little bit.
Just not looking for that. But anyway, so we just
turned around left. We just I went. I looked at
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her She looked at me and we both went nope,
closed the door, got back in the car, drove off,
and I I'm just curious. It is this something that
if you would have done? I mean, what has to
happen when you go to a restaurant or a bar
or whatever. What do you have to see? Does it?
(03:59):
I mean? Rude staff? You know, too many people, too loud?
What where's the line for you? Where do you? Where
do you walk out? Because we just did not even
give it a chance after that, because I thought, I'm
not gonna sit in there and try to talk over
some guy singing live music. And now we got, you know,
ALKI in here wandering around drunk in the middle of
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the restaurant of me. Can you imagine you're trying to
eat knees over at your table a book? Hey, hey, hey, pal,
we're trying to have some food here.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
You know, y, you don't need that, You.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Don't need it, No, not at all? All right eight
eight eight seven seven seven sixty six forty Again you
can text this as well. I'm just asking the question,
you know, what would you have done? Would you have
gone in and enjoyed the drunken show? And again, depending
on circumstance, I would have, but not that night. And
do you have certain triggers, Like again, if a place
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is really packed, Like sometimes we'll pull into all I
don't know, the Texas Roadhouse, right, and we'll go up
and they'll say the weight's going to be over an
hour and you're like, no, I'm not going to wait
that long word, let's just leave. Yeah yeah, stuff like that.
Or sometimes if people are just rude and terrible and
you know, you just get up and bounce.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely with the Texas Roadhouse.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Wait, it's always too long if you don't time it
just right. So yeah, it's usually if it's too crowded,
even if we can be seated immediately, if it's too crowded, yeh,
it's usually like oh okay, it's either take a gamble
or just go find somewhere that's less crowded.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And yeah, it's again you got your trigger. I mean, like,
for example, if I actually see somebody spitting in my food,
that's where I draw the sugger.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, right, your boundaries.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, I'll say, Jessica, he was carrying the food over here,
I saw him spit in it. Should we leave yeah,
I think we should go. I know, we have a
lot of texts here, and some of them are not
making fun of Todd the drunk some of them, some
of them are not many of them. Immediately as soon
as this came up, the six Life started life up
with bull making comments about Todd. I didn't know Todd
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grew a beard. It was. It wasn't Todd. It was
not Todd, because believe me, if it was Todd, I
wouldn't have even opened the front door. I would have
just kept driving right, yeah, through the window.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
That's my trigger.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, my god, is that Todd in there dancing? Keep
gun it?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
That's what would cause me to turn around and walk away?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
All right? What what kind of examples are we getting
here from people who will abandon an establishment? Nikki?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
All right?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Somebody agreed with the live music, that's a deal breaker
because too many overlapping noises.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Sure, I've walked out because in an empty restaurant, we
were seated, no one took our drink order. After fifteen
to twenty minutes, we watched four servers chat the whole time.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You know what, I've been there too, Would you get it?
Walk out on that?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So would I, because if that's how it's gonna be
for the just the drinks, can you imagine the rest
of the meal?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Right? Yeah, I'm with you on that. Okay, yeah, very good,
very good. Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
My sixteen year old daughter and I stopped at a
restaurant for dinner. The restaurant had a bar within it.
Seated at the bar was a woman who had too
much to drink.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And on multiple different occasions with flashing people.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We had already ordered food, I asked the waiter to
change it to a to go order.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh god, that is high hilarious. Yep, okay, all right,
well good. I mean this again is encouraging to me
because you know, I sometimes feel like I'm a little
bit on the uptight side in my life, a little
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bit I can be, you know, I'm self awareness.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, I don't know, it's just adorable.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well thank you. Yeah, but you know, Jessica agreed. As
soon as we opened the door and we heard that music,
we were like, this is going to ruin this, Like
there's no way this can be enjoyed now, it's just
too loud. And then the drunk guy with the dancing
that was the top or just like there's just no way. Now,
I might go back there and put a toe in
that at a later date, because I really want to
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try the food. It smelled fantastic. I mean these and
that's the other thing. And this is where I'll wrap
it up. I kind of felt bad for the people
running this place because I thought the food here might
be just fantastic. I mean, if if it tastes anything
like it smells, this place is terrific. But who's gonna
know because of what they've got going on in there.
(08:25):
I wonder the people running this place, they don't really know. Hey,
you're chasing customers away.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The Jack and NICKI show one two WVAQ.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It's Jack and Niki. It's you guys on these studio
and textual lines eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty
six forty you can text us as well. As we
talk about ghosting. Are you doing it? Why are you
doing it? How do you make the decision to do
some ghosting? And I don't think I have to describe
(08:58):
what ghosting is, but for two or three of you
didn't get the memo. It's basically when you just stop
talking to somebody, just cut them out of your life
on purpose. Yeah, yeah, you are a ghost like Swazy.
According to some research here this morning, this is a
twenty five percent of people are ghosting currently ghosting someone,
(09:18):
and that number seems kind of low to me.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I was gonna say, yeah, that does seem low.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And there are a lot of reasons for ghosting. It's
it's really interesting because people, I think when you hear
that somebody's being ghosted, you think it's because there's a fallout,
there's a fight, you know, there's some kind of trouble,
and that's not necessarily the case. I mean, there are
a lot of reasons to ghost somebody. I mean, it
might just be that they're insufferable, sure, you know, it
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might be that you're look, time is precious and maybe
they're wasting your time describing their UTI's or something, and
you're like, you know what, I don't I have other
things to do. I'm not interested, you know, I mean,
how many conversations can you have that start with does
this look infected to you? We're done? Okay, I'm out? Yeah,
(10:10):
all right now, Nikky, I know that you are in
the process, you said, of trying to convince someone to
ghost someone, which is I believe ghosting by proxy.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
They call it, yes, ghosting by proxy.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I don't like conflicts or confrontation. It makes it's not
great for me. So I was having dinner with a
friend yesterday and she was telling me about this guy
she's talking to, and I was like, okay, Well, as
she's telling me about him, there's a lot of red
flags popping up. And while he is acknowledging all of
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these red flags and blatantly just telling her, hey, you know,
like I've got a drinking problem and I've.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Got this going on, and I've got that going on.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I'm drunk right now, right, I was like, mmm, I'm
glad he is aware, but he's obviously not doing anything
about it, so still a red flag.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Uh what have you said in response? And all that stuff.
I was like, maybe you should just like either.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Tell them to buy bye or ghost him.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, because I was like, I don't just disappear.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I don't know how he would take a direct Hey,
you know, I don't think this is going to work
out conversation because it could turn into those Well I
know I have this problem, but I'm going to work
on it. I want to work on it, you know,
I'll you know, I'll try harder.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
You know, it could turn into try harder.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You know what I think I would do. I think
I would do kind of a soft ghosting on this
soft ghost soft ghosting. I think I would start with, hey, listen,
I don't think this is going to work out, have
a nice life, and then not respond to anything else
they send after that.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
But is that ghosting because you've already I think that's
just a bye, that's a goodbye, that's straight out like
I'm telling you why and I'm out. I don't think
a ghosting is just like just disappearing. You don't respond
and you don't tell them why.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
No, I understand what ghosting is. I get it. I
just set up the segment. I know how it works.
But what I'm saying is it to me? I see
it as a soft ghosting because you're trying to be
polite and go, look, don't talk to me. I'm not interested.
But then after that you disappear. Any additional contact from
them is ignored. You're done. Then you're out.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I want her.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I want her to ghost this guy, and I don't
think she's going to have.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You thought about just minding your own business.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Okay, studio lines are open eight eight eight seven seven
seven sixty six forty. My question to you guys, are
you ghosting somebody right now? And if so, why? And
I'm also curious about how you make the decision to ghost, because,
like the conversation that Nicky and I just had here,
sometimes you can just say, hey, look, this isn't going
to work out. Let's not talk anymore. Yeah, and that's
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one way to end it. But then you can also
just disappear completely and give them no explanation at all,
which is kind of rough. It's kind of rough on them.
But so, you know, maybe there's a reason. And again,
this could be somebody that is just annoying to you,
or could be somebody who actually wronged you. You found
out somebody you know lied to you, stole from you,
(13:09):
cheated on you, and maybe that's the reason for the ghosting.
You know, it could very well be. But I think
ghosting is a many splendid thing and many splendor that's right,
That's exactly right, and could be for any number of reasons,
hopefully some of which we'll find out here from you
guys next. Some choose to ghost, others have ghosting thrust
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upon them. Are you currently ghosting someone? If so, why
there are many reasons? What are you sitting on the
text line here? Nikki Drake?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
All right, one just came in, but I cannot read it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I get ghosted so much and I mostly never do
anything wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
It's immature, and I think people do it because they
can't handle conflict and I never get closure. However, I
do believe some circumstances it can be necessary. But yes, yeah,
I can't handle conflicts. So that's that's you nailed that one.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, yeah, I saw another text in here. Ghosting is cowardly.
It's what weak people do to have would confrontation be respectful?
Tell them to go away and then stop talking to them,
which is basically what I was trying to say earlier.
We got bogged down in semantics. Yeah, just look, I
don't want to talk to you it please go away,
(14:23):
and then after that then you just ignore them. Yeah yeah,
but at least they're not left confused.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Give them closure. Yeah, so like give them the reason,
don't just disappear.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, look, you, it
takes more effort from you, and it's not as easy
as just not talking to somebody anymore. But if you
really want to wrap it up, I mean, I think
that's a good way to do it. And as far
as this text, the I mostly never do anything wrong. Yeah, yeah,
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that's kind of like. That's kind of kind of like
going out on a date with somebody and you pick
them up, and you go to the restaurant and you
enjoy a nice meal, and then maybe you go to
the movies and then at the end of the date
you commit armed robbery and you say to that person
at the end of the day, look, most of the
(15:18):
date went pretty well. Most of it was pretty good. Yeah,
why are we focusing on that one part of the
date that took like ten minutes when we had three
or four hours together prior to that it was a
mostly good date. We wrap up your thoughts on ghosting.
(15:40):
It's all the rage. People do a lot of ghosting
for a lot of different reasons. Again, maybe you're ghosting
somebody right now. Maybe you'd like to share that hilarious
story with us. Maybe somebody's ghosting you and you can't
figure out why. Call in with your objectionable personality and
we'll tell you why. Dinky Drake, what are we seeing.
Oh my kid, I get the listener. Oh, because they listen? Yeah,
(16:03):
what do you seeing on the text line? Here? Nikki? Here?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Okay? A lot of different takes here.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
With dating apps, if you get a match with someone
but it doesn't get serious to the point of meeting up,
it's better to unmatch with the person than ghost them
because they could send more messages to annoy the other person.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, that's fine, that's fair enough. I don't sorry, Yeah,
I don't know anything about the dating apps either.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Is unmatching the same as ghosting?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I don't know, But I think you and I should
just take the dating app thing totally off the ghosting board,
because to me, that's fine, you know what I mean, Like,
you don't know these people at all.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
That's where a lot of ghosting happens.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Right, And that's fine. But you know what I mean,
It's like, if somebody is just they don't acknowledge you
and they're out on a dating app, that's different than
somebody who actually know who just stops talking to you
and cut you out of their life.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, it's true, that's.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
True, all right.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Sometimes the idiots cannot take it's time to go in
different directions. So ghosting is a must when they try
to keep it going.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Okay, now see this was the argument that I was
making for what I called soft ghosting. See the language
they're using there. Yeah, idiots can't take it's time to
go in a different direction, and so ghosting is a
must when they try to keep it going. So you
start with hey, let's not talk to each other anymore. Yeah,
this is and they keep going and then you ghost them.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Gotcha? Okay, yeah, all right that makes more sense.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Now that's exactly what I said that I understand it.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
The last time I thought you were just like, hey,
I'm giving you a reason and then I'm just blocking
you and ghosting you immediately.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Since that worked out for you on the text line,
I'll start writing down everything, showing it to you, and
then i'll say it.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
It could be a comprehension thing.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Fine, all right, here's a good story. Are you ready
for a story?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
When I was in college, I went on a pity
date with a guy. He drove his mother's car, which
was a stick shift that he had no idea how
to drive, and we made it about a mile from
my apartment in Morgantown before I made him pull over
and let me drive. We went to Haibachi restaurant he
ordered for me without asking. Then we went to a
movie and he tried to get fresh multiple times. After
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I drove us back to my apartment and dodged multiple
attempts to make out, I ghosted him. He called me
daily for two weeks, left voicemails.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
He went through all.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
The stages, nice, begging, sad, mad. Obviously I never called
him back.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I expecting that reaction from you.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I cannot understand why that didn't work out for this guy.
He sounds like he should be a real devil with
the ladies, so dreamy. Yeah, this is uncomfortable and awkward.
And you know, first of all, he didn't probably didn't
know that it was a pity date.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
He probably did not have enough self awareness to go, look,
she feel sorry for me, that's why she's going out
with me. So he thought, all right, she's impressed. I
got this, And I think probably the whole ordering for her.
He probably saw that in a movie or something, and
he was like, works for James.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Bond, does not work in real life.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Wow, why would anybody want somebody to order their food
for them.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
No, thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Right, So it just sounds like a lot of missteps,
and then, especially on a first.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Date when you don't even know the other person yet
in their preferences, right, Yeah, you're just you could have
ordered something they're deathly allergic to.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
That's a very good point. You know, if Jessica and
I go to a restaurant and she's in the restroom
or something, I could probably order for her and do
a pretty good job because I know what she eats.
But on day one, day one, Yeah, it doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
All right, Well, you screwed up, nerd Linger, nerd Linger.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
There's another text that popped in here that leaves me
with more questions than anything. Yeah, okay, I was ghosted
after a man asked me to move across the country
to be with him.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I showed up, he didn't and I never heard from
him again.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I don't know. I just thought I could make that work.
I thought I could make it work.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I think a Canadian would do that.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
They're too nice, too nice. Eh, that is a really
strange story. What would he get out of that?
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I want to know, Texter, did you know this person
in person?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Did they exist, right, catfish? Maybe it was a catfish thing. Have, Like,
what kind of plans went into this moving? Was this
like a first Were you actually moved across the country
and he didn't show up? Or was this step one
of Hey, we're going to go visit this location, find
some place to live all that stuff, like.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, what were you from the same area? Were you
from different parts of the country?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Like okay, and I'm just pushing by. Yeah, all right,
give me one more and we're wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Oh gosh, hold on, hold on. My daughter told someone
to go away, but he was persistent to the point
where we had to get a restraining order.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah. See that's the whole other thing, isn't it. Yeah,
that's a whole other thing. There's some people who just
have a screw loose, you know. I mean, you tell
them to go away, they won't go away.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
But that's the thing about it is if you ghost somebody,
they may not They may be the kind of person
that really needs somebody to say directly to them, go away.
And if you contact me again, I will go to
the police. I mean some people need that. And is
my understanding, And now again I'm not an attorney. I'm
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not a police officer, but it is my understanding that
you kind of do have to tell somebody I do
not want any further contact with you, do not contact
me again. And once you say that to somebody, then
if they contact you again, you can go to the
police and get a restraining order because you've specifically asked
them not to. Whereas I think if you say nothing,
then they have plausible deniability. The police can show up
(21:53):
and go while you're bothering this person, they can go, well,
they didn't say not to.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
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Speaker 2 (22:10):
Here's another scam. Allegedly, this is a Starbucks customer who
is warning people about a tipping scam. She explains how
it works.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
So I'm in the Starbucks drive through line. I get
my drink. It's five dollars and twenty five cents, and
when I went to pay, she didn't give me the
little screen that said if I wanted to ask for
a tip or not. She just took my card and
I get a notification from Wells Fargo saying I was
charged ten dollars and twenty five cents. So this was
before I drove off. I you know, rolled down my
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window and I was like, excuse me, why was I
charged ten dollars in twenty five cents for my five
dollars twenty five cent coffee? And she's like she got
a little nervous and flustered. So she's like, oh, you
didn't You didn't tip me five dollars. I was like, well,
you didn't even give me the little screen to choose
a tip, So no, I didn't tip you five dollars.
So just be careful because I think some of these employees,
(23:03):
when they're not showing you the screen to select a tip,
they're choosing what tip that they want to tip themselves,
thinking that you're not going to notice.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, you should definitely see a screen there, because you
know that the tip is ubiquitous. There's no way around
tipping for everything, right, Yeah, if they don't show it
to you, then maybe that's that's a red flag.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, I'm really paranoid about this in a lot of
ways because the way my banking works is if I
do the charge on the card, the initial charge shows
up right away, but not with the tip added to it. Okay,
they show that separately later, oh right, okay. And when
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I'm filling out, you know, they put the little piece
of paper in front of you and you're writing down
what tip you want to put in there. I am
so paranoid about that because it'd be so easy for
somebody to add an extra digit in there, you know,
just and then and then ring that up and be
like no look, and you're like no, no, no, no,
that's not what I wrote there. So I always try
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to It's like back when you used to write checks
and you try to fill up the whole line. You know,
you make a dollar sign and then you write the
number as big as you can and then scratch out
the space beside of it and try to make sure
that nobody can add anything. Yes, So that's not just me.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
It's not just you doing that. I will take up
the whole entire space. Yeah, if I'm not tipping in
cash and then and writing cash and giant.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Letters, right to take up that whole space.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And that's the other thing is I prefer to just
leave cash for any number of reasons. Number one, like
you said, you don't have to worry about somebody adding
digits and taking more money out of your account. But
also if you leave cash for them, you know they
can keep it and not have to throw it into
the pile and then split it with the other servers
who are out back smoking cigarettes, you know, lazy humps. Yeah,
(25:03):
I want I want the tip to be for the
person who served me, well, not for all of the servers, right, yeah,
eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty six forty. You
could text us as well, what is your your policy? Here?
Are we paranoid? Are we going too far? Are you
worried about this at all? Have you ever had anybody
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make an adjustment to your tip? Have you ever tried
to write in a certain amount and then somebody added
to that? Or have you ever had any unsavory things.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Happen anything unsavory around.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Your tipping experience? Please make us more paranoid than we
already are. Okay, all right, so let me go to
the text coming in here. Some of these are quite disturbing,
says this texter. I write cash in the tip line
on the receipt and leave a cash tip. Yeah you
said you do that too.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yes, Yeah, I try to as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I like that and I like the fact that you
can write cash, as this texterer did in all caps,
and that indicates, Hey, I'm not just stiffing you. Because
here's the thing that I worry about, because I'm paranoid
apparently about everything. If you leave cash on the table
and you walk off and then somebody else picks it up, right,
(26:23):
they think you stiffed them, right, because you've got the
server and then you've got the person busting the table
who may pick it up.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I only had that happen to me once.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
That's happened, but it does happen. I've seen that happen.
I've seen that happen. You've got the people who for
some reason bring you the rolls once in a while
as a different person. Sometimes the people who bring out
side dishes, that's a different person. There's like three or
four people who keep showing up at the table. Who
knows where that cash is going to disappear to So
writing cash on the receipt I think at least indicates
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to somebody, Look, there was a tip left on the table.
If it didn't make it to you, then you need
to talk to your coworkers because somebody has swiped this
or maybe a fellow diner, like I don't leave tips
on the edge of the table. I leave them all
the way over by the wall. In that way, nobody
can just casually walk by and pocket it.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Is there no billbook thing, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes, okay, I mean sometimes there. Sometimes
it depends on where.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You are hidden in there behind the.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Receipt, depends on how fancy the restaurant is.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Oh okay, yes, it depends on how fancy the restaurant is.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
That's right, all right, let's go to the terrifying texts. Okay,
that came in here, let's see.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Yeah, got it?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
All right.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Had a friend write twenty dollars on the tip line
with no charge, no charge amount. The server decided to
add a zero and tipped herself two hundred dollars. She
claimed her finger slipped on the computer whoop, because they
were busy and it was accidental, But she physically wrote
another zero on the receipt.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh that's such a bad lie, right, yeah, my finger
must have slipped while I was typing, right, And you
also had a pen in your hand and wrote a
zero on the hard copy on the receipt. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, so she was fired of course, and my friend
got his money back.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Well good, I'm glad. But the thing about that is
it ends well, but you still have to go through
the ordeal, which you'd like to just avoid altogether.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I have another text that came in, and this is
this one's also terrifying.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
You know they give you the store copy and then
the customer copy. Right, you have two blank ones you
can fill out with your tips and everything.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
A waitress used to fill out the customer.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Copy of the bill when it was left at the table,
not filled out with the tip she wanted.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
She used the original bill under the.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Customer copy to copy the customer's signature.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Oh my god, that's horrible.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, that's terrified.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Okay, so take the customer copy, fill it out yourself,
and take it with you.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Guys. I'm going to end this right now by telling
you how I handle this, and then you can. You
can do this if you want, and you don't have
to worry about any of this. Okay, show up with cash.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Okay. I thought you were going to say, live in
the mountains without any electricity.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And just stay there, wait on a bear to catch
fish out of the stream and then go and wrestle
the fish away from that bear, grill that up, and
your problem to solve that is one thing. Or or
hear me out on this. Just go to an ATM.
You know where you're gonna eat, you know about how
much it's gonna be and how much you're gonna tip.
Just show up with the cash, pay them in cash. Yeah,
If you're listening to the Jack and Nikki Show podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let's get into this studio. Lines are open eight eight
eight seven seven seven sixty six forty. You can text
us as well. What I want to know is number one,
how you would handle this situation? Okay, okay, let's start
with that. And number two, what does it take for
you to walk out of an establishment, any establishment, restaurant,
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a bar, you know whatever. Okay, where's the line for you?
I guess is what I'm getting at all right now.
A few minutes ago in the TS, I may have
been overly dramatic, Okay, I it's not really something happened
to me or that I was really wronged. It was
just I was displeased and I left, and I just
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want to know, like I said, where the line is
for you guys? Okay? Because people we're different. So Jessica
and I we were kind of jonesing for a certain
kind of food over the weekend, and we decided to
go out and got something to eat. We went over
to Bridgeport went to this place that we had never
been to before. Okay, all right, it's like, hey, let's
try this out. It's a local place, you know, it's
(01:29):
not a national chain that it looks good, it smells good.
We pulled into the parking lot, got out, and it
was just like, oh man, this smells fantastic. I can't
wait to get in here and get into this. Yeah,
it's good.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Stuff, right, I get see you following like bugs Bunny
when he lifts off the ground and his.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Nose is just following through. Yeah, it was very similar
to that. Yeah, and so we go up, I open
the front door, Jessica starts to step in, and we
hear live music, oh, blaring, like really loud live music
just coming through the whole thing. Some dude in there
with a guitar and an amplifier.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Ish.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
All right, Now again, I know that's not a deal
breaker for a lot of people. Sure, I get it.
But we wanted to sit down and be able to
talk and get kind of caught up on our day
and just relax a little bit. That wasn't what we
were looking for at that particular time. That's not the
vibe we were after. We don't need a guy in
there with an amplifier singing his songs. Okay, okay, fine,
(02:28):
now fine, However, there's more. So we open the door
and this is the first thing we hear, the guitar
and the singing. We look at each other and we're
both thinking, let's bail. And then we look back in.
The problem is that the smell was so good. The
food smelled so good. I'm like struggling, must override patre
(02:49):
for terrible music, must enjoy meat products. So we look
in there and there he is not the singer, but
a completely intoxicated man with the beard down to the
middle of his chest, wallet on a chain, beer in hand.
(03:09):
He is totally wasted, and he is dancing in the
middle of the restaurant.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Now, please tell me because of that?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
No, I again, depending on the mood, like if this,
if this is like Saturday afternoon and we're out on
my motorcycle and we run into that, Yeah, I'm gonna
watch that, have some fun. This is Saturday night. We
want to be able to relax and talk a little bit.
Just not looking for that. But anyway, so we just
turned around left. We just I went. I looked at
(03:37):
her She looked at me and we both went nope,
closed the door, got back in the car, drove off,
and I I'm just curious. It is this something that
if you would have done? I mean, what has to
happen when you go to a restaurant or a bar
or whatever. What do you have to see? Does it?
(03:59):
I mean? Rude staff? You know, too many people, too loud?
What where's the line for you? Where do you? Where
do you walk out? Because we just did not even
give it a chance after that, because I thought, I'm
not gonna sit in there and try to talk over
some guy singing live music. And now we got, you know,
ALKI in here wandering around drunk in the middle of
(04:21):
the restaurant of me. Can you imagine you're trying to
eat knees over at your table a book? Hey, hey, hey, pal,
we're trying to have some food here.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
You know, y, you don't need that, You.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Don't need it, No, not at all? All right eight
eight eight seven seven seven sixty six forty Again you
can text this as well. I'm just asking the question,
you know, what would you have done? Would you have
gone in and enjoyed the drunken show? And again, depending
on circumstance, I would have, but not that night. And
do you have certain triggers, Like again, if a place
(04:55):
is really packed, Like sometimes we'll pull into all I
don't know, the Texas Roadhouse, right, and we'll go up
and they'll say the weight's going to be over an
hour and you're like, no, I'm not going to wait
that long word, let's just leave. Yeah yeah, stuff like that.
Or sometimes if people are just rude and terrible and
you know, you just get up and bounce.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely with the Texas Roadhouse.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Wait, it's always too long if you don't time it
just right. So yeah, it's usually if it's too crowded,
even if we can be seated immediately, if it's too crowded, yeh,
it's usually like oh okay, it's either take a gamble
or just go find somewhere that's less crowded.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And yeah, it's again you got your trigger. I mean, like,
for example, if I actually see somebody spitting in my food,
that's where I draw the sugger.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, right, your boundaries.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, I'll say, Jessica, he was carrying the food over here,
I saw him spit in it. Should we leave yeah,
I think we should go. I know, we have a
lot of texts here, and some of them are not
making fun of Todd the drunk some of them, some
of them are not many of them. Immediately as soon
as this came up, the six Life started life up
with bull making comments about Todd. I didn't know Todd
(06:02):
grew a beard. It was. It wasn't Todd. It was
not Todd, because believe me, if it was Todd, I
wouldn't have even opened the front door. I would have
just kept driving right, yeah, through the window.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
That's my trigger.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, my god, is that Todd in there dancing? Keep
gun it?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
That's what would cause me to turn around and walk away?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
All right? What what kind of examples are we getting
here from people who will abandon an establishment? Nikki?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
All right?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Somebody agreed with the live music, that's a deal breaker
because too many overlapping noises.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Sure, I've walked out because in an empty restaurant, we
were seated, no one took our drink order. After fifteen
to twenty minutes, we watched four servers chat the whole time.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You know what, I've been there too, Would you get it?
Walk out on that?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So would I, because if that's how it's gonna be
for the just the drinks, can you imagine the rest
of the meal?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Right? Yeah, I'm with you on that. Okay, yeah, very good,
very good. Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
My sixteen year old daughter and I stopped at a
restaurant for dinner. The restaurant had a bar within it.
Seated at the bar was a woman who had too
much to drink.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And on multiple different occasions with flashing people.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We had already ordered food, I asked the waiter to
change it to a to go order.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh god, that is high hilarious. Yep, okay, all right,
well good. I mean this again is encouraging to me
because you know, I sometimes feel like I'm a little
bit on the uptight side in my life, a little
(07:33):
bit I can be, you know, I'm self awareness.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, I don't know, it's just adorable.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well thank you. Yeah, but you know, Jessica agreed. As
soon as we opened the door and we heard that music,
we were like, this is going to ruin this, Like
there's no way this can be enjoyed now, it's just
too loud. And then the drunk guy with the dancing
that was the top or just like there's just no way. Now,
I might go back there and put a toe in
that at a later date, because I really want to
(08:02):
try the food. It smelled fantastic. I mean these and
that's the other thing. And this is where I'll wrap
it up. I kind of felt bad for the people
running this place because I thought the food here might
be just fantastic. I mean, if if it tastes anything
like it smells, this place is terrific. But who's gonna
know because of what they've got going on in there.
(08:25):
I wonder the people running this place, they don't really know. Hey,
you're chasing customers away.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The Jack and NICKI show one two WVAQ.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It's Jack and Niki. It's you guys on these studio
and textual lines eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty
six forty you can text us as well. As we
talk about ghosting. Are you doing it? Why are you
doing it? How do you make the decision to do
some ghosting? And I don't think I have to describe
(08:58):
what ghosting is, but for two or three of you
didn't get the memo. It's basically when you just stop
talking to somebody, just cut them out of your life
on purpose. Yeah, yeah, you are a ghost like Swazy.
According to some research here this morning, this is a
twenty five percent of people are ghosting currently ghosting someone,
(09:18):
and that number seems kind of low to me.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I was gonna say, yeah, that does seem low.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And there are a lot of reasons for ghosting. It's
it's really interesting because people, I think when you hear
that somebody's being ghosted, you think it's because there's a fallout,
there's a fight, you know, there's some kind of trouble,
and that's not necessarily the case. I mean, there are
a lot of reasons to ghost somebody. I mean, it
might just be that they're insufferable, sure, you know, it
(09:46):
might be that you're look, time is precious and maybe
they're wasting your time describing their UTI's or something, and
you're like, you know what, I don't I have other
things to do. I'm not interested, you know, I mean,
how many conversations can you have that start with does
this look infected to you? We're done? Okay, I'm out? Yeah,
(10:10):
all right now, Nikky, I know that you are in
the process, you said, of trying to convince someone to
ghost someone, which is I believe ghosting by proxy.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
They call it, yes, ghosting by proxy.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I don't like conflicts or confrontation. It makes it's not
great for me. So I was having dinner with a
friend yesterday and she was telling me about this guy
she's talking to, and I was like, okay, Well, as
she's telling me about him, there's a lot of red
flags popping up. And while he is acknowledging all of
(10:46):
these red flags and blatantly just telling her, hey, you know,
like I've got a drinking problem and I've.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Got this going on, and I've got that going on.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I'm drunk right now, right, I was like, mmm, I'm
glad he is aware, but he's obviously not doing anything
about it, so still a red flag.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Uh what have you said in response? And all that stuff.
I was like, maybe you should just like either.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Tell them to buy bye or ghost him.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, because I was like, I don't just disappear.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I don't know how he would take a direct Hey,
you know, I don't think this is going to work
out conversation because it could turn into those Well I
know I have this problem, but I'm going to work
on it. I want to work on it, you know,
I'll you know, I'll try harder.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
You know, it could turn into try harder.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You know what I think I would do. I think
I would do kind of a soft ghosting on this
soft ghost soft ghosting. I think I would start with, hey, listen,
I don't think this is going to work out, have
a nice life, and then not respond to anything else
they send after that.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
But is that ghosting because you've already I think that's
just a bye, that's a goodbye, that's straight out like
I'm telling you why and I'm out. I don't think
a ghosting is just like just disappearing. You don't respond
and you don't tell them why.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
No, I understand what ghosting is. I get it. I
just set up the segment. I know how it works.
But what I'm saying is it to me? I see
it as a soft ghosting because you're trying to be
polite and go, look, don't talk to me. I'm not interested.
But then after that you disappear. Any additional contact from
them is ignored. You're done. Then you're out.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I want her.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I want her to ghost this guy, and I don't
think she's going to have.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You thought about just minding your own business.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Okay, studio lines are open eight eight eight seven seven
seven sixty six forty. My question to you guys, are
you ghosting somebody right now? And if so, why? And
I'm also curious about how you make the decision to ghost, because,
like the conversation that Nicky and I just had here,
sometimes you can just say, hey, look, this isn't going
to work out. Let's not talk anymore. Yeah, and that's
(12:47):
one way to end it. But then you can also
just disappear completely and give them no explanation at all,
which is kind of rough. It's kind of rough on them.
But so, you know, maybe there's a reason. And again,
this could be somebody that is just annoying to you,
or could be somebody who actually wronged you. You found
out somebody you know lied to you, stole from you,
(13:09):
cheated on you, and maybe that's the reason for the ghosting.
You know, it could very well be. But I think
ghosting is a many splendid thing and many splendor that's right,
That's exactly right, and could be for any number of reasons,
hopefully some of which we'll find out here from you
guys next. Some choose to ghost, others have ghosting thrust
(13:31):
upon them. Are you currently ghosting someone? If so, why
there are many reasons? What are you sitting on the
text line here? Nikki Drake?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
All right, one just came in, but I cannot read it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I get ghosted so much and I mostly never do
anything wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
It's immature, and I think people do it because they
can't handle conflict and I never get closure. However, I
do believe some circumstances it can be necessary. But yes, yeah,
I can't handle conflicts. So that's that's you nailed that one.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, yeah, I saw another text in here. Ghosting is cowardly.
It's what weak people do to have would confrontation be respectful?
Tell them to go away and then stop talking to them,
which is basically what I was trying to say earlier.
We got bogged down in semantics. Yeah, just look, I
don't want to talk to you it please go away,
(14:23):
and then after that then you just ignore them. Yeah yeah,
but at least they're not left confused.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Give them closure. Yeah, so like give them the reason,
don't just disappear.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, look, you, it
takes more effort from you, and it's not as easy
as just not talking to somebody anymore. But if you
really want to wrap it up, I mean, I think
that's a good way to do it. And as far
as this text, the I mostly never do anything wrong. Yeah, yeah,
(14:58):
that's kind of like. That's kind of kind of like
going out on a date with somebody and you pick
them up, and you go to the restaurant and you
enjoy a nice meal, and then maybe you go to
the movies and then at the end of the date
you commit armed robbery and you say to that person
at the end of the day, look, most of the
(15:18):
date went pretty well. Most of it was pretty good. Yeah,
why are we focusing on that one part of the
date that took like ten minutes when we had three
or four hours together prior to that it was a
mostly good date. We wrap up your thoughts on ghosting.
(15:40):
It's all the rage. People do a lot of ghosting
for a lot of different reasons. Again, maybe you're ghosting
somebody right now. Maybe you'd like to share that hilarious
story with us. Maybe somebody's ghosting you and you can't
figure out why. Call in with your objectionable personality and
we'll tell you why. Dinky Drake, what are we seeing.
Oh my kid, I get the listener. Oh, because they listen? Yeah,
(16:03):
what do you seeing on the text line? Here? Nikki? Here?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Okay? A lot of different takes here.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
With dating apps, if you get a match with someone
but it doesn't get serious to the point of meeting up,
it's better to unmatch with the person than ghost them
because they could send more messages to annoy the other person.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, that's fine, that's fair enough. I don't sorry, Yeah,
I don't know anything about the dating apps either.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Is unmatching the same as ghosting?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I don't know, But I think you and I should
just take the dating app thing totally off the ghosting board,
because to me, that's fine, you know what I mean, Like,
you don't know these people at all.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
That's where a lot of ghosting happens.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Right, And that's fine. But you know what I mean,
It's like, if somebody is just they don't acknowledge you
and they're out on a dating app, that's different than
somebody who actually know who just stops talking to you
and cut you out of their life.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, it's true, that's.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
True, all right.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Sometimes the idiots cannot take it's time to go in
different directions. So ghosting is a must when they try
to keep it going.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Okay, now see this was the argument that I was
making for what I called soft ghosting. See the language
they're using there. Yeah, idiots can't take it's time to
go in a different direction, and so ghosting is a
must when they try to keep it going. So you
start with hey, let's not talk to each other anymore. Yeah,
this is and they keep going and then you ghost them.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Gotcha? Okay, yeah, all right that makes more sense.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Now that's exactly what I said that I understand it.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
The last time I thought you were just like, hey,
I'm giving you a reason and then I'm just blocking
you and ghosting you immediately.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Since that worked out for you on the text line,
I'll start writing down everything, showing it to you, and
then i'll say it.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
It could be a comprehension thing.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Fine, all right, here's a good story. Are you ready
for a story?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
When I was in college, I went on a pity
date with a guy. He drove his mother's car, which
was a stick shift that he had no idea how
to drive, and we made it about a mile from
my apartment in Morgantown before I made him pull over
and let me drive. We went to Haibachi restaurant he
ordered for me without asking. Then we went to a
movie and he tried to get fresh multiple times. After
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I drove us back to my apartment and dodged multiple
attempts to make out, I ghosted him. He called me
daily for two weeks, left voicemails.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
He went through all.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
The stages, nice, begging, sad, mad. Obviously I never called
him back.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I expecting that reaction from you.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I cannot understand why that didn't work out for this guy.
He sounds like he should be a real devil with
the ladies, so dreamy. Yeah, this is uncomfortable and awkward.
And you know, first of all, he didn't probably didn't
know that it was a pity date.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
He probably did not have enough self awareness to go, look,
she feel sorry for me, that's why she's going out
with me. So he thought, all right, she's impressed. I
got this, And I think probably the whole ordering for her.
He probably saw that in a movie or something, and
he was like, works for James.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Bond, does not work in real life.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Wow, why would anybody want somebody to order their food
for them.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
No, thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Right, So it just sounds like a lot of missteps,
and then, especially on a first.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Date when you don't even know the other person yet
in their preferences, right, Yeah, you're just you could have
ordered something they're deathly allergic to.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
That's a very good point. You know, if Jessica and
I go to a restaurant and she's in the restroom
or something, I could probably order for her and do
a pretty good job because I know what she eats.
But on day one, day one, Yeah, it doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
All right, Well, you screwed up, nerd Linger, nerd Linger.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
There's another text that popped in here that leaves me
with more questions than anything. Yeah, okay, I was ghosted
after a man asked me to move across the country
to be with him.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I showed up, he didn't and I never heard from
him again.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I don't know. I just thought I could make that work.
I thought I could make it work.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I think a Canadian would do that.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
They're too nice, too nice. Eh, that is a really
strange story. What would he get out of that?
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I want to know, Texter, did you know this person
in person?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Did they exist, right, catfish? Maybe it was a catfish thing. Have, Like,
what kind of plans went into this moving? Was this
like a first Were you actually moved across the country
and he didn't show up? Or was this step one
of Hey, we're going to go visit this location, find
some place to live all that stuff, like.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, what were you from the same area? Were you
from different parts of the country?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Like okay, and I'm just pushing by. Yeah, all right,
give me one more and we're wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Oh gosh, hold on, hold on. My daughter told someone
to go away, but he was persistent to the point
where we had to get a restraining order.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah. See that's the whole other thing, isn't it. Yeah,
that's a whole other thing. There's some people who just
have a screw loose, you know. I mean, you tell
them to go away, they won't go away.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
But that's the thing about it is if you ghost somebody,
they may not They may be the kind of person
that really needs somebody to say directly to them, go away.
And if you contact me again, I will go to
the police. I mean some people need that. And is
my understanding, And now again I'm not an attorney. I'm
(21:31):
not a police officer, but it is my understanding that
you kind of do have to tell somebody I do
not want any further contact with you, do not contact
me again. And once you say that to somebody, then
if they contact you again, you can go to the
police and get a restraining order because you've specifically asked
them not to. Whereas I think if you say nothing,
then they have plausible deniability. The police can show up
(21:53):
and go while you're bothering this person, they can go, well,
they didn't say not to.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I don't The Nerve Center of North Central West Virginia
Jack Loger and Nicki Drake on one oh two WVAQ.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Here's another scam. Allegedly, this is a Starbucks customer who
is warning people about a tipping scam. She explains how
it works.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
So I'm in the Starbucks drive through line. I get
my drink. It's five dollars and twenty five cents, and
when I went to pay, she didn't give me the
little screen that said if I wanted to ask for
a tip or not. She just took my card and
I get a notification from Wells Fargo saying I was
charged ten dollars and twenty five cents. So this was
before I drove off. I you know, rolled down my
(22:41):
window and I was like, excuse me, why was I
charged ten dollars in twenty five cents for my five
dollars twenty five cent coffee? And she's like she got
a little nervous and flustered. So she's like, oh, you
didn't You didn't tip me five dollars. I was like, well,
you didn't even give me the little screen to choose
a tip, So no, I didn't tip you five dollars.
So just be careful because I think some of these employees,
(23:03):
when they're not showing you the screen to select a tip,
they're choosing what tip that they want to tip themselves,
thinking that you're not going to notice.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, you should definitely see a screen there, because you
know that the tip is ubiquitous. There's no way around
tipping for everything, right, Yeah, if they don't show it
to you, then maybe that's that's a red flag.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, I'm really paranoid about this in a lot of
ways because the way my banking works is if I
do the charge on the card, the initial charge shows
up right away, but not with the tip added to it. Okay,
they show that separately later, oh right, okay. And when
(23:51):
I'm filling out, you know, they put the little piece
of paper in front of you and you're writing down
what tip you want to put in there. I am
so paranoid about that because it'd be so easy for
somebody to add an extra digit in there, you know,
just and then and then ring that up and be
like no look, and you're like no, no, no, no,
that's not what I wrote there. So I always try
(24:11):
to It's like back when you used to write checks
and you try to fill up the whole line. You know,
you make a dollar sign and then you write the
number as big as you can and then scratch out
the space beside of it and try to make sure
that nobody can add anything. Yes, So that's not just me.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
It's not just you doing that. I will take up
the whole entire space. Yeah, if I'm not tipping in
cash and then and writing cash and giant.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Letters, right to take up that whole space.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And that's the other thing is I prefer to just
leave cash for any number of reasons. Number one, like
you said, you don't have to worry about somebody adding
digits and taking more money out of your account. But
also if you leave cash for them, you know they
can keep it and not have to throw it into
the pile and then split it with the other servers
who are out back smoking cigarettes, you know, lazy humps. Yeah,
(25:03):
I want I want the tip to be for the
person who served me, well, not for all of the servers, right, yeah,
eight eight eight seven seven seven sixty six forty. You
could text us as well, what is your your policy? Here?
Are we paranoid? Are we going too far? Are you
worried about this at all? Have you ever had anybody
(25:25):
make an adjustment to your tip? Have you ever tried
to write in a certain amount and then somebody added
to that? Or have you ever had any unsavory things.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Happen anything unsavory around.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Your tipping experience? Please make us more paranoid than we
already are. Okay, all right, so let me go to
the text coming in here. Some of these are quite disturbing,
says this texter. I write cash in the tip line
on the receipt and leave a cash tip. Yeah you
said you do that too.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yes, Yeah, I try to as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I like that and I like the fact that you
can write cash, as this texterer did in all caps,
and that indicates, Hey, I'm not just stiffing you. Because
here's the thing that I worry about, because I'm paranoid
apparently about everything. If you leave cash on the table
and you walk off and then somebody else picks it up, right,
(26:23):
they think you stiffed them, right, because you've got the
server and then you've got the person busting the table
who may pick it up.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I only had that happen to me once.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
That's happened, but it does happen. I've seen that happen.
I've seen that happen. You've got the people who for
some reason bring you the rolls once in a while
as a different person. Sometimes the people who bring out
side dishes, that's a different person. There's like three or
four people who keep showing up at the table. Who
knows where that cash is going to disappear to So
writing cash on the receipt I think at least indicates
(26:55):
to somebody, Look, there was a tip left on the table.
If it didn't make it to you, then you need
to talk to your coworkers because somebody has swiped this
or maybe a fellow diner, like I don't leave tips
on the edge of the table. I leave them all
the way over by the wall. In that way, nobody
can just casually walk by and pocket it.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Is there no billbook thing, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes, okay, I mean sometimes there. Sometimes
it depends on where.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You are hidden in there behind the.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Receipt, depends on how fancy the restaurant is.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Oh okay, yes, it depends on how fancy the restaurant is.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
That's right, all right, let's go to the terrifying texts. Okay,
that came in here, let's see.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Yeah, got it?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
All right.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Had a friend write twenty dollars on the tip line
with no charge, no charge amount. The server decided to
add a zero and tipped herself two hundred dollars. She
claimed her finger slipped on the computer whoop, because they
were busy and it was accidental, But she physically wrote
another zero on the receipt.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh that's such a bad lie, right, yeah, my finger
must have slipped while I was typing, right, And you
also had a pen in your hand and wrote a
zero on the hard copy on the receipt. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, so she was fired of course, and my friend
got his money back.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Well good, I'm glad. But the thing about that is
it ends well, but you still have to go through
the ordeal, which you'd like to just avoid altogether.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I have another text that came in, and this is
this one's also terrifying.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
You know they give you the store copy and then
the customer copy. Right, you have two blank ones you
can fill out with your tips and everything.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
A waitress used to fill out the customer.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Copy of the bill when it was left at the table,
not filled out with the tip she wanted.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
She used the original bill under the.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Customer copy to copy the customer's signature.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Oh my god, that's horrible.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, that's terrified.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Okay, so take the customer copy, fill it out yourself,
and take it with you.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Guys. I'm going to end this right now by telling
you how I handle this, and then you can. You
can do this if you want, and you don't have
to worry about any of this. Okay, show up with cash.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Okay. I thought you were going to say, live in
the mountains without any electricity.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And just stay there, wait on a bear to catch
fish out of the stream and then go and wrestle
the fish away from that bear, grill that up, and
your problem to solve that is one thing. Or or
hear me out on this. Just go to an ATM.
You know where you're gonna eat, you know about how
much it's gonna be and how much you're gonna tip.
Just show up with the cash, pay them in cash. Yeah,
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