Ep. 204 - Guests: Maple Heights Mayor Annette Blackwell and Choice Skinner

Guests: Maple Heights Mayor Annette Blackwell and Choice Skinner

Episode Transcript

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This is the FCB Podcast Network.Welcome to John Brown. What's going on?

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What's going on? Welcome back,we back, we back, we
back. Man. We had aphenomenal summer break and now we're kicking off
the show with the hottest, hottesttopics and trending topics and some of the
dopest guests in the world. Andyou know, I got to kick off
the show with none other than introducingthe family. We got the lovely side
of the show, none other thanactress and comedian the legend dairy Coco Brown

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is in the building. So Idon't know if Coco is froze, but
Coco looks you know, it's hot. Brother. I had to first,
but no, honey, I can'tdo both. So thank you so telling
everybody. I hope you're saying somewherecool that your soul is right, because
you know, hell and this heatjust don't go together. No, So,

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how long y'all been in that heatwave? Oh gosh, it's been
a few weeks now. There's beena few weeks now. We had a
couple of hundred dollars hundred you know, can you hear me? Yeah?
I here, you know, Yeah, what's up? Can you hear me.
Yeah, don't ever look at thescreen like that again ever in like

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okay, um prostitated brother, umno, um, it's I know.
I was about to ask you whereyou okay? No, I was no,
no, no, I was lookingat you because you was talking and
and you just froze again. SoI just want to make sure you was
okay. I'm sorry. Yeah,yeah, it's been. It's been.

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We've had a couple one hundred andtwo hundred and three days out here,
and you know what, the communityon top of it that makes it about
one hundred and what the hell?So yeah, it's crazy. Got you,
I got you all. Well,listen, I want to get our
guests though a Darvy O was goodyour brother, what's going on? Brother?
Listen. I want to jump rightinto this interview. Man, you
had a good summer so far,Darvy O. Happy belated birthday to Mama

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d It's I appreciate it, man. I will definitely tell my mother that
I appreciate it absolutely absolutely. Well, Listen, I want to jump into
this interview. Yes, yes,I want to jump into this interview with
one of the most I think she'sone of the most harmful women. That's
dominating Coyhoga County right now. Myeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

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one of the most Yeah for sure. You know, Darvell will tell
you, I don't just you know, speak words just to make him sound
good. Um, when you lookat your resume and your body of work
and what you've been able to doright there in the city of Maple Hikes.
Uh listen, none other than MayorAntte black Well. Listen. We

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want to bring you on the showto talk about what you're doing. And
I'm exciting to have you on theshow as well. I got one question
for you, Mayor, How wereyou able to turn a city, a
suburb that at one time was fiscallyin trouble. They were, it was

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a danger of fiscal trouble to theauditor took over. We we know,
we didn't danger. We were.We reached that day. We were in
twoy fifteen. I took office insixteen knowing the city was in trouble,
which turned it around. But underyour leadership, you all have bounced back.

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You have new development, r youryour school system is doing great.
The high school and the education systemthere is doing great. Even real estate
has bounced back. There value appreciation. Yeah. Yeah, So so how
have you been able to do that? Well, I'm gonna really make at
some point. I don't think peoplerealize it, but um, this is

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a business. It's a forty onemillion dollar business. My budget is forty
one million dollars ten million, andalmost a million of that is in the
my general fund. And that that'sjust that's your main checking account. Right,
So this is a bustiness and youneed a business professional to understand that.
It's that but some credits, right, I'm simplifying it. I think

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that people get an elected office becausea popularity and they want to be a
public servant, and that's all great, but you need to be a public
service with the skills to run abusiness. I have one hundred employees.
I need to make sure they've gotthe best healthcare out there, to negotiate
if we're really very a great benefitplan. They get HSA dollars and we

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fund part of that. There's moneyfor good healthcare, and that's Those are
all tenants of having a strategy forrecruitment and retention. So I came with
a strong business skill understanding the businessof running a business. We do a
lot of government, but we don'tdo business, but to be successful you
had to understand the business. Sospecifically, what I did was I took

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a look at how we got there. You got to go back history.
How do we get into fooks onemergency. So soon after I won in
November, it wasn't until January thatI would take office. I gathered all
the financials and I made my familyroom a war room. I had all
of the financials all over the floor. You couldn't walk through places in the
family room because I was really tryingto stand how we got there. What

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was helpful for me is I hadworked for Deloitte Teuche and then Ryan,
which is an accounting firm. AlthoughI'm not a CPA, I'd spent sixteen
years in that space, and soI understood it's like client billing, like
if you work a law firm oryou know, consulting, how you build
And so for every client that Iworked on, and I worked in all
eighty eight counties in Ohio, Iwas a senior property tax analyst. We

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looked at huge shopping centers and realestate developments and looked to see if they
were being over taxed in the area. Property tax and where we thought there
was because there was depreciation or obsolescensor it should be slated for demolition.
We file for real estate tax appealsto get it get it reduced. And
so I had done that for avery very long time. I understood it,

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and so I began to look atthe funds. You got to break
it down and look at each fund. There there's been main checking account,
and then those are these little somepeople call it side pockets or special revenue
funds. It's the appropriate term.And I saw there was two two million
dollars in the street fund. There'sanother, you know, a million or
so sitting in the water fun andyet we're almost three over three million dollars

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in debt. And when your mainchecking account goes into then the negative,
that's when the state says, oh, you're in trouble. Were better come
before this thing falls apart. Andpeople weren't coding right, they weren't building
right, they didn't understand how tospend the money. They didn't know how
to act. You can't touch thatfund. It's a stricted revenue fund.
Oh yes you can if you can, if you can match the work up

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to the to the fund. Soif you're digging a hole and water is
going to come out of it,you can charge the time that that service
department worker to that fund. Andso everybody it was just easy to just
write everything out the out of thegeneral fund or the main checking account.
They weren't calling the work, weweren't accessing the fund. So understanding the

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budget how to access those funds,and then we became very aggressive looking at
grants. Who's money can I use? Before I use our own money?
I did some you know, Ihave a public relations and marketing degree.
Who can I leverage? How doI spend the county's money or you know,
or the metroparks money? How doI use other people's money? How
do I asks these? I readeverything that came across my desk. I

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joined the house, the mayors andcity managers. There's fifty nine cities in
the county. I got to knowall the mayors and if I got stuck,
I would call the mayor of Lakewood. Have you been mayor for twelve
years when you did this grant?How did what did you do it?
Okay, well don't do this,mayor, but do this. Don't apply
for that grant because this one comingup. It's better. I've bailed myself.

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I allowed myself to be coachable.I drove to Lakewood, I drove
to what. I drove to wherethe health was. I made sure I
was at every event. And yousee me jump. I'm there learning.
I feel like I'm going to auniversity every day. What class am I
going today? This became my campus, my campus in Maple my campus maybe
in Warrenstville Heights. It's where theexpertise is, It's where I can be

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coached, It's where the knowledge is. And then I created a really close
relationship with the county executive at timeof armand Buddhist and I said to him,
very I challenged him, and Isaid, there's you know, East
Cleveland's about thirteen thousand, Maple Heysanis about twenty five thousand. And this
was historically an Italian, Polish andSlovenian town. And I said, if
they said, you know, wedidn't do right by East Cleveland and Maple

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Heights is being called a second EastCleveland. And I you heard me say
this before. When it becomes toodirty, too dark, and too dangerous,
right, yeah, they're right.It off. So if you don't
want to make the same mistake,then work with me, and I laid
out the plan. This is whatI need. If you don't want another
East Cleveland, you want another mistakeon the lake. You know, if

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you want to save black folks,this is how you do it. Take
it from a black woman. I'mgonna tell you I need money. I
need resources, so grants start comingmy way. And that's all I can
say on that subject without being tootransparent. Although that executive is no longer
in office. I was very vocalabout what we needed and I was unapologetic
about how aggressively I went after it. I like it, Darby. I

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know you said you had a questionfor the mayor go ahead now, yeah,
absolutely. So. The thing thatI've heard the most about you is
that you've been intentional about going afterbusinesses in general, but particularly black businesses,
trying to attract Yeah to Maple Heights. Talk a little bit about your

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your efforts in that and why that'simportant too. Well, we hear about
Blackwall Street. I'm from actually Sellman, Alabam. I mentioned my mom's in
Mobile, but I came to thesecond migration. I came to Cleveland as
a two year old nineteen sixty four. So I'm telling my age. My
dad came first and then came toget us, and then my mom moved

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back to Mobile. So I goback and forth checking on her. So
I understand the struggle we are.I'm only third generation share wropping, right,
I know the struggle. I knowthat black doors from open for black
men the way they opened for blackwomen. I worked at Deloitt in twos,
which is the fourth the largest accountingfirm in the world. There's a

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big Deloitte right downtown Atlanta, andwhere you go, there's a Deloitte there.
And I was the only black,and I sat in boardrooms. I'm
very comfortable in boardrooms. And Isat with the men with the blue the
blue suit, the white shirt,the red tie, the shoes, and
they transfer, you know, changeclothes on Friday to go spend all day
on the golf court and come backcome back with amazing tands. But what

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I didn't see was black men likemy husband and my son, and my
dad, and my uncle's and mycousins in the room and so um,
you all were left out of room. And you are the kings of your
family. It's it just emasculates aman in mental illness and anger and jail

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and and crime comes about when you'retrying to find a way to provide for
your family. And you know,women are accused of talking down Black women
are masculating because they find themselves beingthe breadwinner. And so if I could,
if I could rebuild this city,if I could rebuild the black man,

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I was going to do that,and so I have been intentional.
Many men stopped me, said Iwant to open a business in Madevice,
How do you want to do it? And so I you know, rid
All, people don't know the story. We're rid All. But Farmer Generals,
which is a market here on BroadwayDowntown had a farmer's market and doll
and gentleman was going through horble divorce, had just given him at my saved

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the City address business of the year. And then I found out six months
later he was selling. And Ididn't want fresh fruit and vegetables and a
store on my main strip, Broadway, which I just got zoned to be
a central business district, which makesit available for more funding and makes it
more of an attractive strip to dobusiness on. When you mean a central
business district, people want to beand something designated like that. And so

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downtown they're called Special Improvement Disturance orSIDS is additional money. So I had
met Randall mcs. Shephard did notknow his mom was a resident of Maple
Heights, but had watched them withsome a far what they did with the
Tilapia Farm by taking over a condemnedpart of Cleveland where it was toxic,

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and what they did there. Andso I call them. I call them,
and you know, we've got thismarket. You might want to come
and look at it. I knewthe gentleman that was looked thinking about buying
the building is a young not young, but a very aggressive businessman. He
happens to do a lot of workin this area and he was a part

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of the transportation rebuilding. I knowhe opened arts of treachers. I know
him and a professional capacity. Isaid, you might want to make an
investment in Maple Heights. You doa whole lot in Garfield and oh if
you make an investment in Maple Heights. And I told him about the property,
A farmer Jones. He bought itand he said, now you got
to find me a tenant. SoI found the tenant and they said,

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we can't do this, may Or, we can't afford it. I said,
they can't write you a check,but I guarantee you let these men,
give them the keys and let themdo what they do. They'll buy
this building and they'll make you proud. They closed the deal two months ago
after working with him for about twoyears to open that up. So that's
an example. The same thing withthe former citizens banking, and they're closing
banks and black neighborhoods that record numbers. As we do more online banking,

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we're the most unbanked people. Ayoung man from a famous church or the
word was looking to turn it intosome line involves and he did that his
own money, own plus sweat andtears. When he came down in time
for permitting. I outsourced my buildingdepartment, and they gave him a difficult
time. He think he was goingto get accostey permit. They say,
no, if you gotta fix this, you gotta fix that. And then

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one of them maybe would take acall boy. He can't call a black
man a boy. He called meand these people my personal cell phone number,
my personal cell phone number so theycan get through the red tape and
get to me, and he says, I'm about to lose it. I
said, you'd come too far.I said, I will be there.
I brought my director of planning anddevelopment. I brought the head of the

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company and said, I will wewill find a way to get out of
this least so they're going to treatmy people. They apologize to him.
It took a while because the egowas bruised. And I let him know
right there in front of those people, you treat my people like this,
you're out of the city. Andthat created a reputation from the Riddall you
know association and them getting Farmer Jones. And then this gentleman opened the up.

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She will fight with you and foryou. Same thing the Sam Silk
of Southgate made it hack you wantedto come there. So those are the
things you know. Because I knowthis, we have a short period of
time. I personal get involved,my personal cell phone number. You need
a champion, I'm telling you.In the firm, the people that got
the internships, where the nieces andnephews and cousins of the partners, people

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champion for them because of who youknow. I am the who you know
when you want to do something inMaple Heights, Hey, Mayor, I
want you to stay right there.I'm gonna I'm gonna take a short break.
I'm gonna come right back because Iwant to talk about because this year
you're actually uh you your campaign andyou're you're for reelection. Am I correct
on that? Absolutely correct? Okay. I want to talk a little bit
about that and issue one and we'llbe right back with more of the Jeff

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Brown Show. Don't go nowhere,We'll be right back. This is the
Jeff Brown Show, and we're back. We're back. We have none other
than the City of Maple Heights mayor, current mayor, the incombent, the
champion of People's champion, Marynette Blackwellwith us on the Jeff Brown Show.

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Mayor. You know, our interviewsare short lived, and you know I
can talk to you anytime. Youalready know we always see each other out
and you know I sell break you. Now. You're up for reelection this
year, and you know, Ijust think that your resume speaks for itself.
We know that you are a womanof action, and we know that
you're a woman at do what yousay you're going to do in one minute,

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sixty seconds. What is it thatyou would like for your people to
know that is connected to this platformwhy they should re elect you. I
am committed, Thank you for thisopportunity. I'm committed to a quality of
life, improven quality of life.We've got a double digit poverty rate,
a third of our households or singlefemale households. We've got a high number

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black infant mortality, and we're sitbetween two hospitals breaks similar to a third
world country. Our black babies aredying. I understand the need for uth
engagement and addressing recidivism. All ofthose things are on my agenda. Those
are things are my agenda item,they say on my agenda item because there's
so much work to be done inthose areas. I have brought the antient

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Maple Heights. We're no longer aphysical emergency. Our bind rate breading has
increased the last three years, withthe highest proper valuation in the triennial of
the Update reappraisal, a statewide reappraisalin the county beating Lakewood, who is
twenty eight percent twenty nine percent.We're building brand new homes, a lot
of minority young developers and they're buildinghomes are selling two fifty three hundred thousand

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when I took office, So youcan buy a house somebody tights for ten
thousand dollars. Yeah. Yeah,those days are gone. Yes, those
days are actually gone, you know. And again I applaud you. Right
now, there's a special election comingup next week, next Tuesday, August
eighth, and I want to talka little bit about that and get your

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perspective on that so we can getmore people engaged on why they should be
out voting, down voting Noah issueone. Talk a little bit about that.
Sure, they like to catch uswhen we're sleeping, right, So
doing a special election, which theysaid they were gonna joining one, is
costing, I want to say upwards. I think it's twenty million dollars to

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put this special election on to catchus while we're sleeping. And this is
to make it harder for us tochange, to write what might be wrong,
If there's something wrong with a constitution. This thing was written many many
years ago that we want to write. It's going to take us. We're
not going to do that with justa normal fifty percent. It's got to
be sixty percent. And you've gotto get electors and forty four of the

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counties, and you won't have theten day cure period. So if there's
a mistake on a petition that youwill eliminate the opportunity to fix it to
make sure you can still get anon the ballot. So there's a lot
at stake. It is continuing takingaway the rights that many have fought for
and making it harder for us tobe involved in a democratic process to write

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what may be wrong. So it'simportant that we get out and we say
no, no, no, no, we're not going back. We're not
going back. We're only going forward. Voting against this, voting forward,
I'm sorry, Voting forward is goingbackwards, and we don't want to do
that, not as a people,not as a nation, not as a
country. Absolutely, well, Mayor, I want to thank you for stopping

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by. You know, all goodthings must come to an end. But
you know, I'm gonna always seeyou out. You know We're gonna you
know, I'm always see you outdoing the work, and I'm more likely
to see you at some type ofevent. What you know, doing what
you do best, being a shininglight. How can people connect with you?
How can people follow you? Youknow, your website, your Instagram

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page, on Facebook, just leavea social media handle for the audience to
follow you and connect with you andto stay connected to the people's chappel.
Sure on my um for Twitter,it's Marionette Blackwell. Facebook is real lack
mayor Blockwell at my website? Isuh what I said? I forget info

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from mayor dot orger and from BlackwellMayor. I forget what it is.
I'm not looking up. Don't worryabout don't worrying about black Will You'll find
it. M but this and alsothe City of Maple Heights. I have
a social media professional that keeps LinkedInon Twitter, so a lot of what
I do is chronicled every day onthe city social media, so you can

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find it to the Maple Heights Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn in our website as
well as my personal handles. You'llyou'll find me. I'm easy to find.
I'm all over social media. Absolutelywell, Mary, we thank you
so much for stopping by and hangingout with us. And listen, I
know you're going to continue to dogreat things right there in the City of
Maple Hikes and at you are thepeople's champion. Listen, Marinette Black Well,

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thank you so much again for stoppingby and listen. We got more
to come on the Jeff Brown Show. Coming up is my interview with Choice
Skinner, film director Choice Skinner.This is the Jeff Brown Show. So
we want to thank everybody for tuningin. We got our guests today,

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none other than award winning film directorChoice Skinner. What's going on my brother?
Hey, Hey, thank you forhaving me on the show. I
appreciate it everyone. Hey, noproblem, man, we appreciate you stopping
by. Listen, man, Godis doing some great things in your life.
You got a new life coming hunt, a new life. Little doubt
especially as our entry. I'm enjoyinglife right now. I've been reborn to,

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brother, I've been reborn to.Yeah, Coco is getting Cocoa.
Is we love Coco, man,She's just dynamic. But um, we
want to talk about right now.I mean, I'm smiler for me in
the ear and it's already tightened upbecause you entry. So man, this
is a very genuine smile right here. Is what we do, man.

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We want we want you to feelthat home. We want you to feel
that home man. So, butyou know, I'm excited about you know,
what's going on in your life,man, especially with black excellence.
This new movie you got coming outthat's August eleven this year, is it?
Yeah? Talk about New Life?Let's talk about it. Yeah.
Yeah. A New Life is aromantic dramedy that talks about basically a single

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father who he lost his wife yearsprior and six years later, his daughter
introduces him back into the dating scene. Reluctantly, he doesn't want to date
again, but his daughter introduces himback into the scene and he ends up
getting with his daughter's teacher. Ilike it. And so the film primarily
deals with the black community and blackmen's perspective on what it is about dating,

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being a single father, dynamics withour family life, how we love,
how we're able to be providers,and what we go through, and
you know, as far as mentallyas well, because you know, black
men we suffer mentally too, man. I mean, the Rock of Gibraltar
is on our shoulders and we doeverything. Hold it what um? You

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know, whenever I do a film, I always want again, how to
say it again? Yeah? Youknow, I mean even even when I
have you know, stories, storylinesthat deal with with with black men and
Black women that I still blackmail perspectiveas well, but um, I think
uh imbalanced. So this film kindof kind of gives a different perspective that

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hasn't really been done before. Ilike the perspective. Um I think.
You know, when you talk aboutthe culture, you know, Cocoa nine
and Darvil, we always talk aboutthe culture of dating. You know how
bad it is, you know howchallenging it is to date in today's culture,

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and especially uh now when you know, just finding just a good friend
or a companion in this type ofclimate. So the fact that you are
dealing with this from a man's perspective, because normally we hear it from a
woman's respective, which is good becauseit educates us as men on how to
deal with women when we're talking aboutdating and things like that. Man,

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I think that's dope. Man.So let's talk about some of the characters,
man, some of the actors andactresses in the movie. Man who
now talked a little bit because I'veseen the trailer, Uh talk about that
black that that all black cash,you got black excellence. I love it.
I love it. Well, well, I'll tell you this film I
literally wrote it twenty three years ago, So twenty three years ago. Yeah,

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when I when I initially wrote it, I wrote it for Morrish Chestnutt
and at that time different actors thatwere out and the scene, and I
couldn't get it to him, andI couldn't get it to anyone, so
I had to put it on theback burner. And I had an acting
class for almost twelve years in LAand I just cast a lot of the
people out of my class, DaphneMcGary Clark that plays the mother that dies,

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and Chris Rouse, who plays thelead. I saw him do it
on stage, and you know,when he first did it, I was
just like, uh, you know, it was an almost two year time
frame. And then the second timehe did it, I was like,
man, he could play this role. And so we all got together and
we made it happen. But prettymuch ninety eight percent of the casts people
that studied under me in my actingstudio. So wow, the character of

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Ronald Um, you know, likeyou were saying, twenty three years a
character like that didn't existence. Imean to see a single father who was
a considered a good dad. Um, you know, because we were coming
out of the age of CW andWarner Brothers and Fox and all those TV

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shows where you had the families,uh you know, eyes and stuff like
that. But to have a singlefather that was looked down upon. And
so I wrote that because that wassomething that I know I wanted to see
in regards to showing the world becauseyou're you're talking about relationships and the problems
that we're having, a lot ofthat comes from the media. Yeah,

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people by nature, man, weare loving creatures. Man, we are
loving, We are loving community.And when you see men and women having
this dynamic, it's because we're beingled by people that's in the media and
also the content that we're watching.So constantly you're being told men ain't crap,
meny this, men ain't that,and and women aid they ain't but

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gold diggers that's what you're gonna kindof believe. And so for me,
I think the fight begins in content, it begins in media, begins on
how we're seeing and how well notnot all women are gold diggers, but
that sounds out there though knowledge thatyou know, you always see that,
you always see that that that socialex pyramid where the gods have why come

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last? I mean, hey,you listen, man, we're all looking
at you ahead, So no novels. What was that old phrase, love
don't live here? You know whatI'm saying, love don't live here no

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more? But I think we're prettymuch check you guys remember the song by
Gwen gut three. Uh, yougot to have a jail b if you
want to be with me. Ain'tnothing going on, but ain't nothing going
on? But thet ain't none goingAmen, praised Jesus. Ancestors was trying
to tell us, now now it'sAirbnb's so I mean, I I do.

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I do love that. I lovethe aspect of it. When we
come back from break, I definitelywant to talk about you know, was
the single father story something based onyour life or somebody you knew? And
where did you get the perspective toto show that character? Genuinely great question?
Yeah? Wow, well listen,man, we still got time.
We got three minutes, love,he can answer, Yeah, yeah,

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tell us I saw the thing sayingwe had one minute. I'm sorry,
Okay, Yeah, I knew acouple of single fathers, um and and
so that's kind of why I wanteda spot like that, and the whole
storyline about him losing his wife ata very early age. Came from me
actually talking with someone. Um thatthat discussed with young brother had lost his

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wife to cancer. Young black brotherlost his wife to cancer and he was
still carrying his wedding ring, andUM, he wouldn't let it go.
He was like, I'm not,I'm not, I'm not letting this go.
I loved her. You know,they were like twenty two and they
got met at eighteen or something likethat. And I thought that was very
intriguing and very well because you don'tyou don't see black man and so um,

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when it came to the relationship,it was important that that was established,
like yo, we we love hard, like if we if you find
the right person, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. You trying
to tell these young girls you knowwhen a black man loves you, when
you know when you don't, Butthey want to live in delusional bubble land
that they think of you know,a pair of grab bibbers mean he loved
you. But honey, if Idon't know nothing, I know when a

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black man won't me and when youdon't honey. And I know how to
leave the leader horn throw me alady know when to leave? Well,
yeah, I have it. Well, listen to Choice man. I appreciate
you stopping by. Man. Youknow, all good things must come to
an end. Listen, how canpeople follow you and connect with you and
stay connect and watch and watch thismovie? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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Well, if you want any moreinformation about the film, you can go
to all the social media. Theinstagram is an a New Life film at
Instagram and also on Facebook and onTikTok A New Life Film. You want
to follow me, It's d Ar K A N two thousand on Instagram
and Choice Jay Skinner on Facebook.I'm on Twitter and all that other stuff

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too. But now that's X Now, so what is he trying to tell
us? Got to threads. Goto threads. That's the new Black People
Meet. That's the new Black PeopleMeet. I'm coming. Yeah, it's
incredible. Listen Black Planet you guysremember Black Planet back and oh my god,
of course of Chris, Chris,come on, you see how old

(31:18):
I am? Brother, don't playgames with me? Okay, well there
you have it. I'm grown here, and that feels that filter is dangerous.
Don't talking about not talking about youdangerous? Okay, but listen,
Choice man, God bless you Godbless you. Thank you for coming by

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the show. I'm definitely gonna checkout the film. Congratulations, congratulation that
my brother listen Platforms, Amazon PrimeAugust eleven. Yeah, make sure you
got support it. We need thatin this community. There, Yeah,
there you have it. Will beright back with more of the Brown Show.
Go check out a New Life bymy man Choice Skinner. We'll be

(32:05):
right back this show. What's goingon? What's gonna be back? Uh?
Man, this has been a phenomenalshow. Listen, you know,
just be impacted from the summer breakingvacation. Listen. Uh, this is
the partner show I love because wedid with the hot topics that run down

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and uh, it's a lot goingon in the world. Um, first
thing first, I gotta talk aboutthis Marlon Wayne situation because, um,
he's at the fight, the Crawfordand uh Spencer fight the other day,
and um, you know most peoplego to the fight to look at that

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fight, but he was more soin uh, I guess in awe of
former of a heavy champion boxing termanEvander Holyfield's ear the ear gate I call
it, where you know his earwas bit by bit off by a portion
of his ear was bitten by MikeTyson. But if you look at the

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live video and what he was doing, I mean I was in tears,
like because because you can see theear though, you know what I'm saying,
And I'm like, yeah, what, like what did you see the
interview? Did you see then interviewthat Evander and and Mike did together And
Evander was talking about when he bithis ear, and Mike just looked like

(33:35):
the same child. He looked likehe was sitting up there like he had
just been by every parent in theworld. Yeah, like when he bit
his ear, that was the endof his career or something. You know
what I was saying, At theend of Evander Holyfield's career. Man,
he bit my ear? Man,Like you know, nobody it's it's weird.

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It's weird when you look at it. When you think about the history
of entertainment, boxing and all ofyou know, I love black folks because
we we we influenced every facet ofthis world. I don't care this entertainment,
uh E, then sport or whateverthe case might be, there's gonna
always be a history making moment.And I just think Marlon Wayne's just just

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put this up in history talking aboutthat ear though, Like you know,
that ear is gonna always be talkedabout for years, for years today.
You know it's it's you know,it's gonna be in like black history books,
the ear. You know, theygonna they just gonna have a back
of holy Field's head and they're justgonna show the ear, a piece of
the ears missing whatever, be likethat's Mike Tyson's ear. So I thought

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that was kind of interesting. Youknow, Um, I definitely want to
get into this stephen A Smith situation. So Stephen A. Smith recently was
asked on a Red Carper event abouthis comments on Twitter about Kim Kardashian and
Chris Jenner. Uh. He immediatelysaid that that someone from his team made

(35:06):
the comments, stating that uh onthe Twitter he said, Uh, Kim
Kardashian, Um a prostitute. Yeah, that was that was He said that.
He claims it wasn't him, hesaid, but listen, so I'm

(35:29):
like people most people want to knowthat anyway. I don't know. I
mean, I understand he has tohe has I've always said Chris Jenner was
a pimp, but I without ButI would promise you if you understand,
let me manage your career. I'llbe right there, like, yes,
daddy, Yes, because obviously sheknows how to take lemons and make lemonade
like a moho. So I meancalled me a hold of shows. Because

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if she ever came to me andsaying, let me work with your career,
I'm like, Okay, ain't.I ain't got no say she gonna
make one right quick, but youdon't put you together. She's gonna put
you together. I mean she gettingin yeah, because I mean they all
admitted that they have no talent theday they they got famous off of no

(36:16):
real talent. They admitted that,you know what I mean. And she
took what she had and world withit. So I mean, I ain't
gonna say the girls a prostitute.But Chris Jim has always been a pimp
to me, but she she shea pemp that I would be like,
um ma'am, I choose you.Hey, listen, ex became a woman,

(36:36):
so we ever know me? Heylisten, called he me microphone Gate.
That's what I called him. Youknow she's so what's crazy? She
s? Yeah, yeah, yeah, But my thing is this. You

(36:57):
told the people to throw water onyou then when the girl did you get
mad? So I'm trying to singout helped me to understand. And then
if you're gonna throw with honey,here better aim hit the person who did
it. Not a white woman,honey food, that white woman. I
said, she going down, y'all? She going down? Yeah, it's
crazy. So if you, ifyou was in her situation, how would

(37:22):
you have respond to Coppa? IfI had asked them to throw water on
me and somebody threw water on me, I'd be like, yeah, sprinkle
me, baby, sprinkle me.But for you either stay throw water on
me and then get mad because somebodyfollowed the instructions. I don't know.
Maybe she wasn't ready. Maybe maybeshe got mad because it touched your weave.

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I don't know, you know,I don't know. I just I'm
like, girl, but you askedfor that, so why do you?
I don't know. It just weirdand maybe the water was thrown with too
much aggression. It was an aggressivewater. It was a greater you know,
Taylor Swift, you know, uh, Taylor Smift just gave all the

(38:05):
truck drivers that are carrying the equipmentacross the country for her tour. One
hundred thousand dollars bonus in addition towhat they already make for their work and
making sure that the equipment rise likefor the stage, uh speaking on every
sound equipment home now. So that'spretty dope. I mean I think that's
that's pretty dope. You can saywhat you want. AI is not the

(38:27):
devil all the time because I'm thoroughlygood this that challenge, the rope.
But that's just me and and realquick. Just want to touch base U.
I probably had to talk about thislater on on another show. I
want to follow up with this RickRoss uh situation with dj Envy from the
breath up. You know, djEnvy is facing some legal trouble right now

(38:52):
for a real estate fraud, analleged real estate fraud scheme. Um.
I want to follow up with thatalso. Pee Wee Herman Paul Rubens is
at seventy year Um was my man? Hey, Darbil, did you do
the pee Wee Herman back of thedeath. No? Yeah, I ain't

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gonna lie. I watched Pee WeeHerman like my parents watched Benny Hill.
Don't play with me. I lovemiss pee Wee Play. How Captain call
Captain Carll was the first. Hewas like the white r Kelly And it
was just so funny that we didn'tnotice that until later. But we we

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we're not gonna talk. We're notgonna talk about this fight though. We're
not gonna talk about this fight though, And how that boy walked up out
of it there like he had thoughtthe Tommy huns O listen like mar bang
big b boy. That boy talkedso much to ass and my thing is
h seriously his face and and I'mwith I'm with comedian Davis on this one.

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The brother drove himself to the hospitalwith a bullet in his head.
And you thought you had a chancewith that, right, that's a that's
an auto that's an autobox, that'sa transformer. Okay, that's not that's
not a human being. Okay,you within the ring with an autobox,
Okay, like you with a zombiefrom the Walking Dead? Like you,

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Yeah, thought you had a shot, right, But Daddy tried to say
it's because he wasn't one hundred percent, because he had suffered major neurological damage
from that accident where he was ejected, he shouldn't have been fighting. But
I'm like y'all wasn't saying that whenthe boy was winning. Now y'all want
to say it because the boy lawn. I'm like the last ten fights,

(40:44):
sonny, that just this one isjust another fight. Well, lesson learned.
I think Spencer learned his lesson.Never taught trash to a man who
got shot in the head. Solisten, and drove himself to the hospital.
Yeah, yeah, drove himself tothe hospital. Yeah, do that,
man, don't ever do that.He's not afraid. That is not
human. No, that's not ahuman, honey, that's an awful That

(41:06):
a transformer, honey. Yeah,that's part of the Marvel And as a
Marvel character, we yet to givethe name Bullet. We call bullet man,
Bullet Bullet. That's Black panthers cousin. That's Black Panther's second cousin on
his mother's side. Right, youknow what I'm saying. That's killed Monger's

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little brother. Yeah, listen,yeah, yeah, that's what it is.
Well, listen, y'all all,the thing must come to an end.
We do a little real quick.What did y'all learn? Y'all know
what part of the show it is. What did you learn that day?
Koko, What did you learn todo? I learned that black men can
tell incredible black stories if we justlet them. I've learned that black women
in power or some be beings thatyou do not want to play with.

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And I've learned to never ever fightanybody who has literally drove themselves to death
and came back. I think that'sa great what you learned that. I
learned that Jeff is gonna be thatdude's next opponent for us next boxing Matt,
and I learned that you're gonna bemy personal trainer. Listen and look,

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