Ep. 213 - Talking Mo'Nique, Katt Williams, Shannon Sharpe and more

Talking Mo'Nique, Katt Williams, Shannon Sharpe and more

Episode Transcript

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This is the FCB Podcast Network,Jeff Brown, what's going on? Happy

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New Year, Welcome back to anotherexciting year. And also I gotta say
this, happy anniversary to the JeffBrown Show with Coco Brown. It is
our sixth year and of versary andwe're still going strong. But this is
the first episode of twenty twenty fourin the new season. And you know,
I got the lovely side of theshow with me, none other than

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the legendary, the beautiful and Imean and she Slim Thick Okay, Sam
Thick, the one and only,the original one, funny mama, Okay,
Miss Koco bru, thank you,baby, thank you. I'm moving
here trying, honey, I'm overhere trying like slim slim sick up here.

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I'm like, damn, Coco,I like, I'm like, what
where dude? That like medium chicks, y'all. You don't want a big
fleeting bacon grease or starving what dudeslike the medium chicks? Where y'all at?
Man, listen, I don't knowwhere they are, but they missing
out on you for sure. I'mlike slim, like ah, and she

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got twenty teeth, y'all, andshe got pretty teach she's slymptick and she's
got pretty tea and she looked good. Yeah. Yeah yeah. Also Valentine's
Day, you know, is uhis uh coming up? So you know,
big shout out to all those thatare going to be celebrating tomorrow Valentine's
Day. A lot of love gonnabe giving. You know, I don't

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know, Coco, you got anyplans for Valentine's Day? What's going on?
I am going to see one lovewith my love. I'm going to
see one love with my son.That's what I'm going to do. Okay,
Well, there you have it.God bless Phoenix. You know he's
a good kid and we love whathe does. That's the house right now.
That's the man at our house thatI love it. I love it,
I love it. Big shout outto our other partner in crime,

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none other than Darby Omorrow. Wecall him a kau and dcon do dirty.
That's right, he's not. He'sout of the good you know that
jumping been out of the building sincetwenty twenty three. We're gonna have to
figure out what's going on with him. But we know he's doing some good
work and he's building a brand sowe love him, so we give him
a pass. But Coco, listen, we got to get into some of

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this stuff. Man, like twentytwenty listen twenty twenty four being crazy Okay,
we were with thirty thirty three daysin Like, listen, I ate
this much popcorn a long time,okay, I mean because its it seems

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it just seems like it just getsbetter and better and better. You know,
Kat Williams, you think it's quiet, here comes something like, oh
lord, oh Lloyd's It's it's incredible. I mean, it's good, uh,
you know. And and I gottasay this. I want to give
a big shout out to big shoutout to Judge Greg Mathis for you know,

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taking the opportunity to use his platformto try to bring peace, uh
to some of the to to someof these celebrities that's got these beefs,
and and you know, I appreciatewhat he did, but the response after
that just took me clean out.I mean, Monique is she on fire

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right now? And one one couldsay, if they agree with her,
with her approach, if they agreewith how she's handling this, one could
say that she shouldn't be saying nothingat all. You know, but you
know, here's what I think aboutit. That's a grown ass woman,
yeah, who who felt and hadnot just felt, but has experienced some

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things. Okay, and then youknow, this woman is really dec declarated,
you know, Emmy Award winner,Oscar Immage Award winner. I mean,
this lady is really the truth.I mean, when you really look
at her resume, you can heraccolade. You cannot deny her. It's

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yeah, it's like wow, andall of a sudden, here comes this
woman being black ball and you know, from from her, from her from
what she's saying. Now, wedon't really know if that's the case,
but you really haven't seen her inno movies. You really haven't seen her
really active in the entertainment industry.And now, Coco, you're in the
entertainment industry. You know, youkind of may see these things. And

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you know, I mean, sheshould have the opportunity to say her truth.
Okay. And I always tell peoplethis, co col and I want
you to jump in right now whenI say this. As I say this,
there's there's your truth, my truth, and there's the there's the god
honest truth. So God really gotthe record on what's really going on?

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You know so, but you knowso go ahead, Coco. I just
want to get your feedback on whatyou think about this Monique situation. This,
uh, this sentence Sharp you knowhim and Mike EPP's going at it
right now. You know this this, I mean anyway, from Kat to
Bonique to Mike Epps. I'm justtrying to figure out who next. You

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know that I know I'm marked safe. I'm mark safe from the bull crap.
So they get because my mind's mybusiness, okay, And I mean,
yeah, I've got a gay stuffI could drop on people. Please
believe it because when they start torealize why y'all ignoring me, I'm taking
it all in so I see everything. So but it's never been my style

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to you know, come at somebody. Or maybe I'm kind of person that
forgives easily because holding grudges is itmakes you sick, and I don't want
to be sick. I feel like, you know, the world has just
people, society. Everybody. There'ssuch sheep. There's such sheep. And

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what I've realized is that when weused to feed sheep grass, we now
have to feed them trap. That'sthe only way they'll stay by you.
That's the only way they'll stay,you know, involved and invest in you.
You can't feed them class. Youhave to feed them trash. And
my is my thing is y'all pickand choose who you think is telling the

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truth. It's all subjective to youon who you like, who you don't
like. You don't know who's tellingthe truth. You know, but if
you them or you rock with them, or if they're a man over a
woman, or if they're skinny tostop, or if they're light over being
dark, or if they're more popularover not being so popular, y'all don't
know the supers that bit you inthe tail because you're only following what you

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know. It's subjective, you're onlyfollowing what's popular. And my I've always
felt that, you know, Moniquehad a right to speak her truth and
say how she was being treated andhow it made her feel. And she
claims she was doing it to standup for the rights to brothers. Yes,
when she initially came out with allthat, who thought her prom everybody

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that was that's what hurt her,That's what heard her platform was her approach.
Now she's coming back on her y'all, a van zan beloved sweet baby's
tip now y'all saying she's faith youknow what? But yeah, something like
and I'm not knocking a cat.I'm not you know, I'm not knocking

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a cat. I'm not right.You know, I'm not knocking a cat.
But who's the same cat killing thewhole truth? Okay, I'm not
knocking you know, which is hilariousto me, that the grown man.
But you know, he just realizedthat him trying to have in depth conversations

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was getting him no love. Whenhe brought the trash, he got to
ask, you understand what I'm saying. So yeah, yeah, so he's
he's he's he's milking that for allhis words, and he wants you to
come on there and speak their truth, but he needs it to be messy.
It can't be just the truth.And just like Country Wayne had a
great interview, you see how y'allskirted over that because he wasn't up there

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throwing no stones, throwing no messyou know. So you know right now
it is obvious everybody's sheep, andif you want to keep the sheep following
you, you must feed them trash, not class. It just is what
it is now. Honestly, likeI said, at this point, Monique

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is trying to gather her credibility back, because, like I said, her
initial approach is what kicked everybody offand turned everybody off. So hold on,
let me, let me, letme hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on, Cooker, let me say this. I gotta
jump in here because you you justreiterated this again. Her approach is what
got her pretty much silence right inthe industry. So let me ask you

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a question. Question. Yeah,as a as a as a black actress,
you are an actress, right you? You are in this industry?
Yes? You know? Do youand I works? Yes? And you
and you works? Do you feelthat she was speaking truth as relates to

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the disparities of resources that are givento black women like yourself, who are
good and who have paid your duesto to be elevated. Do you think
that that that was a good point? And just because it was a good
point, even though she said ita certain type of way, it doesn't
really make it wrong. It's justthat, No, she was tired.

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Wasn't wrong. A lot of usaren't wrong. I mean, yeah,
like I said, first of all, they pit us against each other.
Yeah, if they get one fatfunny chick, they will work her till
she lose weight. Then they're gonnafind them another fat funny chip. If
they get them a sexy, theyget them a sexy every dude want to

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sleep with type of chick. Theywill work her until she start to age,
or y'all over it, and y'allfind the next one. And they
put us against each other. Iknew I had reached a certain level of
of of of my career when Iwalked into an audition and I'm seeing all
the sisters I watched in movies andTV auditioning for the same role as me,

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and I said, oh, okay, And so now you look at
each other and you try to beon your coon by yad, but you
can smell the venom in the room. Who this hell? Who you you
here for? This too? Theypit us against each other. They make
it seem like there's only one ortwo opportunities for us when every year they
are shoving down our throats ten newnon people of color actors. But they

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hold that thought. Let me takea break, come right back, because
I want to hear that perspective thatyou're talking about that's that's that's pretty deep
because now what you're saying that thatnow is the competition has increased rapidly based
on what you're saying. So Iwant to I want to. I want
to get back into that real quick. Hey, y'all, we'll be right
back with more than Jeff Brown Showwith Cocho Brown. Listen. We and

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he were talking about it today.Monique, Sha, that does sound kind
of crazy. Uh shas can't evenget up. I can't even the masculine
man and you want It's like,I can't even say it. Yeah,
I can't even say it. AndMike Epsen, Kat Williams and Shelon the

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son of Monique were talking about itall. We'll be with more of the
show. This is crazy. It'sthe manhood. Brother can't get me.
I can't even Yeah, I justcrazy. This is the Jeff Brown Show.
Hey, we are back. Don'tabout it. You're mad, man,

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No, listen for the show.I can't even say. They can't
even say it. You know throadin your DNA will not It's kind of
it's just a man. And thenwhen I think about it and listen,
I'm not sharp masculinity or his butit is kind of weird. You know,

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I'm just saying you couldn't called itthe boom boom room. I mean,
dude, like you couldn't call itboom boom shay, I can't even
say it, can't he get tothe second shape. You might as well
have called it encore man, Icalled it. You don't call it club
first second right for something something something. But you were saying that, Now

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when you go out and look atthese these when you go out for auditions,
now you're talking about you got youknow, it's like nine to ten
people women black women that you know. Now y'all going for the second rold,
y'all going for when when you thinkthat it's an exclusive audition? So
now they now they now it's allcompetitive and yeah like it. It used

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to be a time where you'd walkin the room and you would see other
actresses. Yeah, you know.Now you walk in the room and you
got to compet against social media influencers. You got to compete against Instagram comics,
you get, you know, andyou sit up here like, dang,
what did I take all them actingclasses for? All I need to
worry about is them commas above myhead on a profile pick, and they

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do that to us when they don'tdo that to the other ones. The
other ones don't do that. Ifyou come in and your train, you
went to Julliard, you did allthis, you know what I'm saying.
You know, you you get therespect you were given for us. They
don't care how much you've been trained, where we went to school. It's
like, where's that comma? Howmany commas you got? You know?

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And they put us against each otherwhere we're all fighting for this. They
act like there's not enough opportunities forall of us, and it is,
but they like to pick and choosebased on commas now and not talent.
We've seen that a bunch of times. So and then you know, with
the whole movie and everything else,which I'm not knocking because that's letting a

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lot of black filmmakers get their shine, but it all so has watered it
down to the fact that any andeverybody now can have what used to be
a coveted spot. Yeah, soI want to, you know, and
I gotta I want to jump inhere and say that now. Big shout
out to my team, Howard Clayand Strida Kart, myself, yours truly

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Confessions with Jeff Brown is coming toa network near you very soon. We
are just excited about that. Gotto give a US Soft Club on my
new TV talk show, and I'mdoing that because of how everything came about,
right that I actually had to gothrough a process just to get to
this point, Like I just couldn'twalk in Like this is a like you

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know, I'm I'm listening to youtalking you right, Like the journey for
me to get to it to thispoint, Like my journey didn't start three
years ago with Confessions with Jeff Brown. My journey didn't start six years ago
with Jeff The Jeff Brown Show withCoco Brown, Right, this journey started
ten years ago, ten plus yearsago when I went to school and I

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learned the business, and I learnedhow to do the things I'm doing now,
And now all of that is manifestingand it's translating into what we're seeing
today. Okay, So I agreewith you. It is you know,
you got to put in the timeand you got to put in the work.
And you're right, they're making itso easy for people who do crazy
stuff online on social media, andthey're giving them the spots that they really

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genuinely. I'm not gonna say theyhaven't earned, but in a sense,
they really haven't because at the endof the day, these are you know,
you got people like yourself and allthese these legends that have put in
the work. Y'all put in thework, y'all done, got y'all master
degrees and bachelor's degrees, and y'allwent to school and y'all did this.
But yet they're making it so toughon y'all. So now y'all gotta work

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five and ten and we have togo backwards. Now we have to go
backwards. Yeah, yeah, Andit's right, man, any real actor
that has put in the work,the time, the sacrifice, the training,
we have to go backwards because theysaid they don't do this on the
other side. And I know becauseI played both sides. I am not
a black comic. I've worked infront of multiple whether it be corporate,

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church, you name it. I'veworked all sides, and I know that
they do not do this with theother side. They will not bring somebody
in who is not trained and embarrassthem. Unfortunately for us, if they've
made it now that we'll let anybodyin. It's not a coveted spot anymore.
It's not a spot that you knowwhen you look at the Angela Bassist,

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the Will Smith's, de Denzel Washington, the Jeffrey Wrights, when you
look at them and you know thatperson trained that person, did you know
you realize that's something to aspire tobe because they are great. On our
side. Now it's like, oh, we're more concerned about how many comments
are above your head, or ifyou got a bunch of followers and all

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of that. Don't care that youdon't know to look to not look in
the camera. We don't care thatyou know how to act, that you
can't learn your lines, that youdon't know anything about acting. We just
want you here, they feel like, But honestly, they're right. I
hate to say it, they're right. Black people will follow what's ever popular,
whether it is uh making us lookgood or making us look horrible.

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That's why you say Kashawan's that arepopular. That's why you still got Toukiana's
out here, you know, That'swhy you still got these ignorant people,
you know, representing us as aculture. Because we are black people.
We got to do better. We'relike sheep. They know they're feeding the
sheep, they're feeding us trash.They know that if they gave Tabitha Brown
a dagg on sitcom, only asmall portion is gonna watch it because it's

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on some positivity. But if theymake a sitcom with a bunch of ignorant
people that pay act doing stupid stufffor whatever reason, oh they don't line
up for it. So still wedo better as a people in regulating what
we allowed through the gates. Yeah, we're gonna keep getting the crap we're
getting because because ultimately controversy creates cash, and ultimately, ultimately we in our

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culture we like we like controversy.That's why you look at all the reality
we like. Yeah, and andand that goes back to the to the
premise of the conversation. When youlook at Monique, you said it,
you said, hey, you know, she's trying to re establish her credibility
again. And guess what. AndMonique, not only she's trying to do

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that, but this is the onlyway she can do it. She has
to speak her truth the way shehas to speak it. I'm you know,
I'm gonna be honest with you,though, co Coke, I ain't
mad at Monique doing what she's doingthough. You know why because guess what,
you know, God blessed Tyler Perry, God bless Oprah and all these
different people you know that that areon that level. God blessed Steve Harvey.

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You know what I'm saying that hurtsThat hurts her is that And this
is with any any entertainer, whenyou're speaking about what's going on in the
inside. Yeah, ninety nine percentof people only see what perception they have
chosen to see of someone of someone. So if you come out and you're

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talking about things on the inside,they're gonna think you're hating. They're gonna
think you're bitterer. They don't know. I tell you all the time,
we who have been on the inside, we know some people ain't lying.
But because y'all don't know, y'alldon't know what's on the inside. Y'all
don't see the in the workings.You only see the finished product, and

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you only see the face they putoff for them interviews and stuff. You
don't know what we know. Butbut but that's the only thing that hurts
her, is that what she's speakingof is on the inside, and nine
percent of the world has no idea, but but what do you do?
And I'm about to take a quickbreak and we can touch back on this.
I'm a segue into this. Here'sa woman saying, hey, she

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said on Shannel Sharp show. Shesaid, Hey, Tyler owes me this
amount of money. She said.She claims allege that Tyler Perry owes her
millions of dollars. He cost hermillions of dollars because he blackballed her.
He did certain things. Okay,but then there's another video that came out
with fifty cent He was doing aninterview and in the interview, he said

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he talked to Tyler allegedly. Hesaid he spoke with Tyler and he said
he don't believe that Tyler blackballed her, but he also believed that Tyler's silence
about her. Did not know becausehe has because he has the influence,
he has the ability to put people, cut it all down with a conversation.

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Yeah, he could have shut itall down. So at the end
of the days, it's not justMonique, but it is, as you
say, the inner workings. Andnow it's kind of out, not kind
of is out from her perspective andkat William's perspective, They really need to
have some type of conversation in sometype of sit down to where they can
kind of kill all of this andthen those that are on that level,

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on that open level, and I'mtalking about the money and the resource level,
the Tyler Perry level, and youknow, and so and forth and
showing forth that are black and inthat position and black of power in the
elite. They need to come upwith some type of way to make sure
that actresses and actress that are theminority that are black are paid and compensated

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for what their value is. Youknow, I don't think everybody should be
compensated like Dinzel Washington. I don'tbelieve that. I don't believe it.
I don't understand the game. ButToken, you're not gonna keep temping me,
putting me in leading roles and playingme and paying me what you paid
me the first go round. Itain't gonna happen like that, and that

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it's just anything. Then you getraises, you get promotions, and I
think that was Tarazi's big thing,that she was still getting paid what she
got paid for for her first leadingrole. Girl, you, Taraji p
Henson's your price supposed to go upevery time you walk off a set.
Yeah, and well you know,and I'm gonna take a break real quick.
Listen. She said something. Theysaid that she fired her whole team

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after the Empire TV series that theydid because she said that it ain't no
way that her value should not haveincreased after the performance. So with that
said, so she she's standing onher own business with that to listen,
and I agree you if you don'twalk away, I mean, even with

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me, I'm not even I'm notat the Tarazi level. I'm getting there.
I'm closer than I was, youknow what I'm saying. But even
I every time I've moved on toa different TV show ever since American Crime
Story, I'm not even gonna useno disrespect, but I can't use Tyler
Perry as as a blueprint because theindustry has their things with Tyler. But

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when I did American Time Story withRyan Murphy, from everything I've gotten after
that, every time I show up, my price is gone up. Wow,
but supposed to go. That's howI was supposed to go. And
that's how she should not be makingthe same amount of money for Color Purple
that she got. I can dobad all by myself. Absolutely not for

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bab absolutely not. Absolute team andgetting her more money every time she walk
on a set, especially after therun she had on Empire of course,
hell after Benjamin Button. Like girls, if your team is just happy to
take whatever they can get for you, and then you say for you to
get the raises you deserve, thatI totally agree. Everybody had to go.

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Yeah, well listen, We're aboutto go and come right back.
Listen, describe right now. iHeartRadio, Apple Podcast on Spotify or wherever
you listen to your podcast. We'llbe right back with more of the Jeff
Brown Show with Coke o'bron. We'llbe right back. It's so crazy,

(25:15):
this is the Jeff Brel Show.Oh my god. This has been a
great conversation. So Cole, letme ask you a question when you think
when you think about this, thisthis dynamic of Monique and her son.
Okay, now we now we nowthis young man comes out. He said

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he's a comedian. I've never heardhim, so I don't know if you
know a lot of people I don'tknow, so my defense, a lot
of new comedians I don't though.Yeah, I've never heard of him,
but you know, big shout outto him and his career. But he
says that Monique is lying. He'slike, you know what, we ain't
tried. We ain't try to dothis, We ain't trying to do that.
He says, faithful, our worksis dead. He said, neither

(25:57):
Monique or him have put in thework. And he said, I'm freeing,
brother. Don't get me started.Okay, Okay, I'm gonna start
with this. We have seen this, and I'm not saying that what he
said is true. I'm not sayingMonique has done anything that's my that's not

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my cross to bear. What Iwill say is this, I've always been
a firm believer. People in glasshousesshould not throw stones. Okay, Now,
I'll tell anybody you never see meriding some righteous wave where I am
just so ethereal and I'm so spiritualand I'm so above it all and I

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transcended to some awokeness. No,you'll never see me because I fall short
every day. I'm dead every day. Wow. Okay, But I will
speak my truth and I will holdmyself accountable. That that was the one
thing when I watched that young man'sconfession, The one thing I did take
from it was accountability. One.He never said it was her her,

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her, He said, I'm justas guilty as not as wanting to form
this bridge of healing. Also exactly, and if you really paid attention to
it, he never went out ofhis way to disrespect his mother. He
did not. He did not.You're right, he never he went He
never went out of his way todisrespect her, and I and and that

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and the people. I think whatirritated me when I was reading the comments
what so many men were calling hima punk and you you you soft and
all of that, and I mean, black men, here we go again.
You claim as women, as society, if i'd be a black woman
with a society, we don't leta black man express himself that we don't

(27:52):
respect his emotions. But here youcome calling another black man soft and a
wooz because he's speaking his truth.Okay. And the thing is, there
are only two results that happened whena man is not allowed to speak his
truth. Either explodes and becomes overlyemotional and becomes a physic and staftid,

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or he holds it into the pointthat he explodes and he harms himself.
Or others right, And you guysare up here calling him all out of
his name, talking about soft andhe and I'm like, but y'all want
to blame us as black women sayingwe don't allow black men and specs themselves.
That's y'all. You don't want tohold your brother's accountable. But all

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at all, your follow whatever Donkey'stelling you to hold your stuff and act
like you the man. And here'sthe brother. I don't know if it's
true or not, it's valid ornot. All I know if he felt
compelled to come and shay that,and think about he was talking his circles.
The man was going out of hisway not to disrespect his mother and

(28:59):
all of you saying that crap abouthe was all over the place. You
probably talked to your parents any kindof way. And good look, good
look because he preferenced. He prefacedthat. He pres yeah, because he
said, well, you know,he said he's not good with doing these
lives. Dude. He said hedidn't want to be. He was because

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he probably he probably what he wantedto say, and he's gonna want an
emotional place. How about that brother, Did you notice the restraint the brother
can y'all try that for a change. Well, let me let me say
this. I'm gonna say this,and you know, you know I definitely
agree with you. But again itgoes back to what we said earlier.

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What you made a statement about wein our culture we are, we are
so we are so quick to toto dog to to to frown upon,
to be little, to devalue ourown Right now here, it is this
man is at actually freeing himself too. He said, I'm a free my

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mother, I'm freeing myself. Youdon't know that that statement that he made
and him having that moment of transparencycould have helped another brother that's faced with
the same challenge that they put thatout there. And daddy issues. Okay,
let's let me the mother ain't justthe mother, it's you know,

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they have they have broken relationships withtheir fathers. This broken relationship with the
mothers. Okay, and you knowwe see a lot of this and uh
in our community. Now here's thething. I'm not saying that it don't
happen in other ethnicity groups. I'mnot saying that. But when you look
at our culture, we are it'sjust like with the Bishop Jake's thing right,

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Nobody had any evidence about vision Jake, nobody video. But all it
took was a rumor, and itwas our it was our community, and
it was it was bloggers that lookedjust like us, looked just like TD
Jakes that was pushing an alleged rumor. Nobody stepped up and said, well,

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you know what, Uh, let'slet's let's kill it until something actually
you know, uh turns out withevidence to support this. Okay, nobody
did that, and so so thisis what's happening. And I understand why
Judge Greg Mathis came out and saidwhat he said. You know, even
a situation with with D. L. Hugery and Monique, you know,

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I think it was pretty low thatif she did talk about his daughter being
molested, that's pretty low. Youknow. I don't know how true that
is, but that's low. AndI'm every evident. I'm waiting. But
my thing is, if God leftthe pick and choose what you post,
right, because y'all claim is evidencethat she said that she attacked this man's

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daughter. Where that I want tosee it too, but evidence type of
girl, I don't go. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but that's why
I said. But here's the otherpart about it too, Coco. Listen
this thing with her with d Land all this other stuff. Listen,
when Cat Williams came out, hedidn't saying nothing about d. L.

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Hillby, but she had something tosay about d. L. Hillbey.
And then she said on that interview, she said, I'm Cat williams fraternal
twin. That's what she said,right, she said, we're I'm his
spiritual twin. That's what she said, that's my brother. And then now
she's on the she's on the darkmatter to her right with him. So

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my thing is, you know,I've also believed some of that was for
her to position herself, as yousaid, continue to build the credibility,
get herself back out there. Hesaid, is looking to work with some
of these black actresses that that arenot being paid what they're worth, you
know. Uh, And and againgot a lot of truth and good for

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him. Uh, you know,big shout out to what he's doing.
Also, Uh, you look atMonique's story with Netflix. You know,
they did settle out with her.Nobody, nobody knows exactly what that amount
was, but she did yourself amajor settlement. So what I'm saying is
that there's some truth to what's there'struth to what she's saying. What we're

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seeing, we're seeing, we're seeingdifferent pockets of the evidence and the facts
that are favorable to Monique. Butyet, and you gotta understand, Jeff,
people need to understand this. Factsunfortunately have become subjective. Correct,
that's true. It used to betrue or false. That was it,

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no great areas, But now truthand facts have become subjective. You believe
who you want to believe, Youbelittle who you want to belittle, whether
the facts are staring you dead inthe face, You're gonna go with whom
ever seems more popular, who's gotmore weight, who's got a bigger platform.
We are in a situation where thetruth doesn't really matter because it's all

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perception. It's all perceptions, it'sall subjectives. The thing is, I
said, Kat says some things.I was like, right, right,
the things true true. But also, like I said, are some of
the things that they see it areinside issues. And unless you're on the
inside. And unfortunately, because ofInstagram and social media, everybody think they

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got to peek inside this business.Boo boo, y'all don't have no idea
y'all have you don't know? Here, here's what happened. I know we
got in the show. You know, I can't believe it went that quick,
man, But you know, timebe flying. But here's what I
want to say people, Uh,you know, the scripture says, the
Bible says this, that people wouldrather believe the lie rather than truth.

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That's what that's That's what the scripturesays. And so what we what we're
living in is a is a conspiracytheory generation. People believe conspiracy theory.
That's what they believe. And guesswhat they've already believed. People already believe
that that the industry is already taintit. They already believe that it's corrupt.

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It's all these different things. Baby, that's the thing. But the
thing is, it's outside. Now. There was a time that being a
celebrity, being a movie star,TV star, whatever was a coveted private
affair when everybody was able to comeinside as per se. We let everybody

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in the living room. They ain'tin the kitchen, they ain't in the
back bedroom, but everybody in theliving room. When we took away that
that gilded wall that said you're overhere because we've achieved something and you guys
are over here trying to get it. When we opened up the floodgates and
let any and everybody in, that'swhat got the situation muddled, maybe beyond

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you know, you made me thinkabout Clubhouse with Clubhouse like the androids in
I mean, look for real,I mean yeah, well they got an
iPhone. Everybody had an iPhone.Yeah, it was exclusive. But when
and it was like, oh hellno, now you hear about Clubhouse.

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You know, I went on Clubhouseabout three weeks ago. I look it
is it has with totally died andthen went the trash as. I did
an interview on Clubhouse the other daywith somebody who's a big influencer. That
food had thirty people in there.I said, wow, I said,
you might want to go and takethis over the stream yard man, you

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take that stream. Yeah. ButI mean, right now, you understand
we have let people who normally wouldnot have an opinion of how this business
operates have an opinion. We're alsogiven them the leverage to say your opinion
matters. Yeah. Yeah, whenthey opened it, when they took away
that gilded platform, there was whenI came up in the game. You

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know, you aspired to be aBernie, You aspired to be on Adele,
You aspired to be a Somemore.You inspired to be a deal like
you had you had you had goldswhen they put them on the same level
as Joe Smoe with a camera inhis basement. Yes, they took away
when they took away that line andthe stand, they took away that that

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that that shield. This is whatwe get now. This is what we
get now, and unfortunately we asa people are more fascinated with trash than
class. It's come down to that'swhat's coming up to. Well, let
me on this note. If youwas if you was a betting woman in
a boxing match, in a ina full blown boxing match, who you

(37:43):
got Shannon or Mike as Mike ain'tcoming down himself, Mike coming I know
all Napolis coming out. But also, no, you're gonna have that.
That's gonna be like Sparter, Honey, That's gonna be like Sparta when he
kicked all them soldiers over the cliff. No, you might want to go

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and leave that alone. Lead thatdon't even because go see that coming on.
Let that let them go. Letthat go that muckle ain't gonna block
a bullet, ain't gonna knock abullet. Well, there you have it,
Coco. Listen. I love yourbaby, girl. Listen, I

(38:28):
love you too, baby. It'sbeen a funny, funny show, good
conversation, and all I'm gonna sayis this, Can we all just get
a damn long Okay? Can wejust get along? Can we get Can
we get along? At the endof the day. Everybody got dreams,
everybody got goals, everybody. I'mupst know this popcorn? Hey listen,

(38:49):
Hey, listen, I keep gettingcorn in my teeth, little shell I
be like that. Yeah, listen, it's just too much going on.
But listen, we all want peopleto get alone. We want people to
get along, We want people toto brive. And guess what if we
come together, if we work together, it's a lot of great things that
we can do together as a community. And you know, so with that

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