December 3, 2025 • 53 mins
Elon Musk is being hailed as a tech savior, yet his own words betray a worldview far more dangerous than people realize. In this interview on The Alan Nathan Show with guest host Karen Kataline, I break down Musk’s stunning claim that his Optimus robots and AI will use capitalism to usher in a communist utopia. This is the technocratic dream disguised as innovation. When profit becomes the gateway to centralized control, freedom gets sacrificed on the altar of efficiency. We expose what’s really at stake.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Now the one who protects us all from prattling prognosticators
in perfidious pundits.
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Union name secure.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
These rights.
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Governments are instituted among men driving.
Speaker 5 (00:18):
They're just powers from the consent of the government.
Speaker 6 (00:20):
From my cold dead heads, I'm concerned that if we
don't impeach this president, he will get reelected.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's time for the Ellen Nathan All Stars, the longest
running nationally syndicated centrist show in the country. Now here's
your all Star host.
Speaker 7 (00:36):
Well, yes, I'm proud to be one of those All
Star hosts.
Speaker 8 (00:41):
Karen Catalene with you.
Speaker 7 (00:44):
We just had a marvelous first hour of Ellen Nathan's
All Stars, and so we're going to move right along
with someone we've had before. Mills Gravilia's at Los Angeles
based private investigator formerly of the Pinkerton Organization, best known
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for his investigation of the Wonderland Avenue murders, their cover up,
and the ties they expose between LA's city government and
organized crime. Always riveting stories, his books include Skull Diggery
and sub Rosa, with his next book, The Last Lawman
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Do in twenty twenty six. Thank you so much for
joining us. Nils Gravillius. Good to have you along.
Speaker 9 (01:34):
It's my sincere pleasure.
Speaker 10 (01:35):
Miss Catiline.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
You sound like Sherlock Holmes, only only better.
Speaker 10 (01:44):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (01:45):
Mister Holmes or trusted psidekick the doctor. So there's lots
of criminality afoots. Miss Kathleen, I think you've observed that it.
Have thought about them, have you not?
Speaker 8 (02:01):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (02:02):
My heavens, yes, not including This isn't what you were
slated to talk about. But the former vice president choice,
the former vice president selected to run with Kamikammie La Harris,
is now being embroiled in quite this scandal of a
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billion dollars being diverted to bring terras into Minnesota. Do
you have a thought about that before we start talking
about that other problem? There's so many, as you said,
still diggery.
Speaker 9 (02:39):
Indeed, don't let's not forget that Timmy's wife dearly enjoys
the smell of burning tires at night in the summer.
You know that's a mostly peaceful thought, Miss Kathleen. Of course,
of course, Timmy's going to import as many terrorists in
Minnesota as he possibly can, and thereby the remainder of
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the nation. He's following in the proud footsteps of Betsy Hodges,
the former mayor of Minneapolis, another virtue signaling Marxist of
the of the DFL. The Democrat Party in Minnesota makes
no bones about the fact that they've always been a
socialist organization and they judge themselves in consanguineans alliance with
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the Jihad. So they're going to bring lots of Hodges in.
Speaker 8 (03:34):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Are you still there?
Speaker 10 (03:37):
Oh I'm here. Oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
All of a sudden, I thought, oh God, I lost him.
Speaker 10 (03:43):
You haven't lost me.
Speaker 9 (03:44):
I'm standing by like a mean dog on a weeklyas
to do violence on your behalf if you have enough
money to pay me.
Speaker 10 (03:52):
That's what I do. For sale, for hire, for hire.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
What bothers me and about stories like this Timmy Walt's story,
which is just getting started, is the number of Republican
pundits or conservative pundits who like to characterize Timmy.
Speaker 8 (04:15):
As you put him, as.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Merely a dupe, a dupe that he just was incompetent.
And this not only is that so ridiculous, but they
miss the point that this is highly likely to have
been deliberate and malicious. Do you already see evidence of that,
or is it just the pattern of behavior of radical leftists.
Speaker 10 (04:41):
Well, it's radical leftists, and it's not him alone.
Speaker 9 (04:44):
He's part of a larger organization. They're all about group
activities on the heart left, and this is just one
of them. Remember, they are experts. At your money, there
would be very little hardcore left wing organization in this
country about tax dollars flowing to them.
Speaker 8 (05:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Well, and it's a great way to Who thinks that
there weren't I don't have evidence of his, but who
thinks there weren't kickbacks of a billion dollars? I mean,
you know that's where they say a billion here, a
billion there. Pretty soon you're talking about real money.
Speaker 10 (05:21):
Yes, yes, mss Kataline.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
These NGOs that the blue cities and blue states are
so fond of is the filter for the tax dollars
that they use to pay the parasite class democrats. Yeah,
to organize, to harvest ballots, to register debt bodies and
illegal aliens and things like that. They run a spoils
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process and they subscribe to power through the left. This way,
everybody gets their share of it. I want minimal government,
a government tell on a diet like some sort of
a Czechoslovakian underwear model that they want. They want a big, corpulent,
loud government that rewards them, you know, completely just in
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ideas and laws, but also lining the pocket. So they're
voting for Santa Claus government every chance they get.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
And as witnessed by the fact that the greatest threat
in the history.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Of their lives was Doge.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
And exposing usaid that they took greater umbrage to that
than anything else you could have done to them, because
that was their honeypot.
Speaker 9 (06:38):
Right You think that there was nine to eleven that
that somebody had flown a couple of passenger airliners, you know,
into the Art museum or something.
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
Well might as well look at yet another absolute atrocity
that the shooting of two National Guard people in Washington,
d C.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Just last week.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
The quote is we imported the problem yet another example
of deliberate and malicious No.
Speaker 10 (07:17):
No, I completely agree with you.
Speaker 9 (07:20):
I love how the New York Times and characters like
Jen Pasaki are furiously claiming that all of these people
were vetted, even though we have people in the defense
establishment saying they were not vetted for this. They were
vetted only to the extent that they were vetted and
evaluated for their value as paramilitaries in Afghanistan, not for
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their ability to be resettled in suburban America, as Katleen.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Well, and they did so, they rolled out the red
carpet for them. In fact, they put them ahead of
the line in places like New York.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Am I wrong? I think I read that.
Speaker 9 (08:03):
You're not incorrect. And they have all of these benefits
being extended to them, and they have these NGO agencies
that are helping them quote unquote resettle. Well, there's some
sort of advocate in Bellingham, Washington for this guy who
keeps talking about how he was suicidal, his family was
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afraid he was falling apart, etc. Did that person ever call,
say the FBI and say, I think there's a problem here.
What happened to see something? Say something?
Speaker 7 (08:35):
Well, and we had a guest earlier who said that
being mentally ill and being a terrorist or not mutually exclusive.
And they always call terrorists mentally ill because they want
to obfuscate the fact that they're terrorists.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
Yeah, I agree with you. And it could be the
radicalization that this man underwent occur in the social welfare
agency that was supposed to be an advocate for that community.
Speaker 11 (09:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Well, it's clear that we don't know, and there was
no way to adequately vet him coming out of Afghanistan.
My understanding was that the people who truly did help
the Americans in Afghanistan were not as readily welcomed as
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the terrors who didn't. I'd like to see that investigated
as well.
Speaker 9 (09:34):
Well, so would I one more time. They've inflicted a
horrendous problem on the American public. I don't think that
Joe Biden was conscious enough during the four years of
his male administration to know everything that was going on.
This has Susan Rice and Ben Rhodes's greasy footprints all
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over it.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
And the Potus forty four as well, who never met
an enemy of America that he didn't like.
Speaker 10 (10:04):
Oh, I agree with you. That's what we have.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
And you know that they're going to raise Holy Hell
when they start ejecting these people.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Yeah, but that just means you're doing the right thing.
The accountability factor is what I think that the Trump
administration is in a race against time. Nils, could you
stay for one.
Speaker 10 (10:27):
More segment, I'd be delighted.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
We would be delighted to have you.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Nils Gravilius will talk about some of his books and more.
What a colorful, fascinating character, Nils Gravilius.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
Stay tuned.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
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Speaker 7 (15:06):
Welcome back to Allan Nathan's All Stars. I'm Karen Katalen,
happily joining the other All Stars in great memoriam and
in honor of Alan Nathan, whom we lost very very recently.
We continue this show in his memory, and what a
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great joy it is to talk to Nils Gravilius, prominent
Los Angeles based private investigator, formerly of the Pinkerton Organization
and known for his investigations in the Wonderland Avenue murders.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Let's talk.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Thank you for joining us, Nils Gravilius. Let's talk about
your book out in twenty twenty six, The Last Lawman.
And by the way, thanks so much for staying with us.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
Oh, it's my sincere pleasure. I'd be very pleased to
talk about The Last Lawman. It's my true to life
memoir about thirty years a field under my own aegis
as a private detective. In my prior work as a
Pinkerton and as a soldier, I had an above average
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education as a detective, being in army counter intelligence and
then being involved in the Pinkerton Service and other contracting
or situations that sort of thing. I went through two
layers of police academy at Rio Hondo and took AOT
in Iowa when I lived in Iowa. So I have
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all of the education a police officer police detective would
have without a lieutenant breathing down my neck about what
I say. People in the media say what I think
is a good case versus what the department might think
is a good case. I've had some real advantages. The
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disadvantage sometimes is things like operating without backup when I
was out picking up bail fugitives. It's not as if
I could get on the radio and get a helicopter
up in the air thirty officers to join me pursuit
or something like that. I had to do it on
my own and had to use different tactics and my
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risk management at old times. But I've survived it so far.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Well, tempt us or entice us with one of these
stories from your book, or at least enough so people can.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
Pre order it.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Most layman people who don't have a background in personal
private investigations, what they know is from television. What they
know is we were talking earlier about Sherlock Holmes. Give us,
Give us at least part of his story that you
relate in your book that would make us want to
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read the rest.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
Okay, So occasionally we'll hear about a dirty, fealthy, corrupt
government official, will we not?
Speaker 10 (18:08):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Oh, yeah, that happens.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
One time lawyer came to me in Los Angeles who
said he had been given a series of rulings from
a judge with no basis in law. And not support
it by facts. And he was mystified, and his client
wanted him to check and see if there was some
conflict of interest between the judge and the opposing party.
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So I investigated the judge and the opposing party and
I couldn't find anything to tie them together other than
the case. There was no shared business, shared property, a
secret relationship between the party and the judge. And then
I was going through things after a week, kind of
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banging my head against the wall, Miss Cataline, and I
found the notice for a continuing education seminar that the
lawyer representing the opposing party was putting on and his
guest of honor was the judge. And I thought to myself,
what if the relationship is between the lawyer and the judge.
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Now they were an odd match. I was wondering, are
they in business together secretly? Because he was twenty years younger,
this lawyer, He was twenty years younger than the judge.
She was much older. He was a skinny, skinny like
a broomstick. It ca aboug crane, if you want to
think yes. And she looked like Joe Peshey.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
She was a woman who looks like Joe PESHI really.
Speaker 10 (19:42):
Right, A troll, A bridge troll.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
I mean she was that unattractive, But I mean there's
someone for everyone, right, So I don't know. My old partner,
Don Muon and I we went to this seminar dressed
in coats and ties and signed in as if we
were lawyers taking continuing education. And I could barely stay
awake during the morning presentation. And then they served the
rubber chicken lunch, and they were seated at the dais
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and there was a whiteboard behind them, and Don and
I got up to look at the whiteboard and see
if we could see anything at the table, and the
lawyer and the judge were holding hands under the table,
and so I got my camera as if to record
the things on the whiteboard from my continuing education, and
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turned and captured them engaged in what we'll call four play,
Miss Kataline, the judge and the lawyer right now. So
this is a superior court junch, somebody with enormous power.
Lawyers don't like having problems with judges. So this is
nitroglycerin to handle, right, absolutely, So he asked me a
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couple of times, how do I handle this? What do
I do with his evidence? I told him. You go
into court at your next court appearance, and in front
of the judge and the opposing attorney, you ask the
judge to go into chambers because you'd like to discuss
a matter relevant to the to the to the situation. Yes,
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and I won't ruin the rest of the story by
telling you WHOA. You will have to buy the book,
miss Kill.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Are so good at that?
Speaker 8 (21:28):
That's great?
Speaker 7 (21:29):
Now that was I asked you to do that, and
you indeed did it.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Now we all want to know what happened. Well, call
him on the carpet.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Well, you'll have to read the book.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
It's The Last law Man. It's available for pre order
now on Amazon and it will come out just in
time for Father's Day. You can buy a copy for
your father if you care to read it.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
Yeah, in June then.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
It's in the can I presume and it will be
out point And that is great.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
The Last Lawman.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
We have a couple of minutes. What do you want
to say about either of these cases? Is there something that.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
You'd care to prefer?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Let's talk about the Tim Tim Waltz's case. What do
you think we're going to find? You think he's either
going to step down. I think he needs to be charged.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
Personally, I think he badly needs to be charged. And
if he were a Republican governor, he'd, you know, the
news media would be hounding him, doing him to know
when he was going to resign and how he was
still beating his wife and things like that.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
He will he will have some sort of.
Speaker 9 (22:40):
A fine print defense, is what I'm going to say.
He's going to have something that shows that he was
entitled to do this, authorized to do it, it was
within his powers, or it was an oversight somebody else
was supposed to handle it. It's not my dog.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
He didn't bite you. You kicked him first.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
They're not my pansy, right right, So you've heard that
those are not my parents.
Speaker 10 (23:05):
Right correct.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
And the news media is going to work over time
to drive his getaway call. But it's the US Attorney's
Office is on top of anything. They'll roll up that
entire network. Everybody involved in that has dirty hands. And
we need to start ejecting some of these people. And
as they've already achieved citizenship and they're involved in criminality,
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we need to unwind their citizenship and send them back
to the Salmonia very well, so much.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Couldn't agree more. There are so many people working to
with hate and viciousness towards their very own country. It's nihilistic.
It's worth a whole nother interview with you, Nils Gravili
is always a pleasure having you. Thank you, and best
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of luck with the book. We'll have you before it
comes out. We'll be right back after this.
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You should wait thirty minutes?
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Welcome back to Allan Nathan's All Stars.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I'm Karen Katalen. Always pleasure.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Has been a pleasure for many years to be part
of Ellen Nathan's All Stars.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Now we do that.
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Show in memoriam to Alan Nathan, who was forced to
be reckoned with and still is in many many ways.
I'm pleased to welcome founder and CEO of Pickaxe, the
groundbreaking social media platform built on two uncompromising principles, freedom
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of speech and freedom of reach. Love that he hosts
The Jeff Dornick Show and his newest book is called
Following the Leader. Jeff Dornick joins us right now on
the Allen Nathan All Stars. Hi, Jeff, good to have
you along once again.
Speaker 26 (30:00):
Yeah, thanks having me back on.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
So, uh, Elon Musk doesn't much like the HB one
visus for certain Third world countries, and he's once again
waiting into politics. I love him as a defender of
freeze speech, not so much when he gets involved in politics.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
What do you say about this?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Is this self serving on his part or he's certainly
entitled to speak up about it, but I wish he'd
more stay in his lane.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
I guess what do you think?
Speaker 23 (30:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 26 (30:39):
I mean, the reality is I don't I don't mind
too much with with people that aren't, you know, actively
involved in politics speaking their mind, you know, just because
you know, he has as much to say as the
rest of us when it comes to, uh, you know,
what's supposed to be our self governed society and all that.
At the same time, it doesn't change the fact that
he's wrong, and he's wrong the whole host of things,
(31:02):
and that's that's the reality. That's the reality that we
have to face. And so so for me, I look
at somebody like Elon Musk and it seems as if
everything that he talks about is self serving. He's looking
at it from his perspective and his ultimate goals. And
just just last week he was he was actually explaining
what his ultimate goal is when it comes to everything
(31:24):
that he's working on, from Teslas to the Optimist robots,
to artificial intelligence, to everything and that is actually using
and this is it, This is his own words, both
on Joe Rogan's podcast and at his Tesla shareholders meeting,
which will to use capitalism in order to usher in
a communist utopia where humans no longer have to be
in the workforce and instead all the work will be
(31:46):
done by AI and robots so we can just go
about our lives not having any responsibility at all. That
is his stated end game when it comes to everything
that he's working on.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Oh my god, I didn't know that. I didn't I
didn't know that. So he's falling for the utopian sirens
song of communism, and maybe he's also falling for a
lot of these dictator wannabes. They see themselves as the
(32:18):
savior of the world, and all of it ends up
happening is they cause misery and unhappiness because they row
people of their own agency.
Speaker 26 (32:32):
What say you, now, I would one hundred percent agree.
And the thing is that, and he's very smart in
the way that he's pitching this as well to people,
is that he understands the shortfallings of communism in general.
You know, because that's the argument that a lot of
US conservatives and even guys like Charlie Kirk would make
all the time. It's like name one, the name one
communist society does ever work. It's never worked in the
(32:53):
history of mankind. You can even go back to the
early New Testament. Look at the Book of Acts where
it says that the early Church was selling all their
possessions and sharing the monks themselves. What most people don't
talk about is a few books down the path and
the apostle Paul is having to go around the entire
all the European Church is begging for money to send
back to the to the Jerusalem Church because they ran
out of money because their communist utopia didn't work, and
(33:15):
so when we're looking at it, yeah, it's what Elon
is doing though, is what he's saying is that he
can usher into communist utopia because there will be a
surplus of resources because the AI robots will do everything,
which very well may be true because when you think
about it, they could theoretically be more effective at you know,
harvesting and growing food and all of that. The problem
(33:38):
that we face is now you're taking away the need
for human beings to be in the workforce, to have
any kind of responsibility, to be self sovereign, to be independent,
to have any constitutional right you can imagine, because if
you are beholden upon somebody else for your revenue, for
your food, for your housing, for all of that, all
of a sudden, you aren't actually free. You're a slave.
(33:59):
Even though you're not necess working. You have to do
what the person who's paying you asks you to do.
And that's the problem that we're going to be facing
come and he's predicting that we're going to be there
within the next decade.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
I don't think anybody could have said it more clearly
and more succinctly than you just did.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Jeff As I.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Was hearing you talk, I was thinking, you know, years
ago as a musical theater. And there's that wonderful phrase
from the Music Man when Harold Hill is selling a
bill of goods, but he is telling the truth because
he says, the idle brain is the devil's playground.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
And this is how it is.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
If you don't have a personal vested interest in your
own freedom, your own property, your own life, you are
going to be a slave to someone else who does
have an interest. I just wish it were more evident
what we're talking about, you know, and it's not.
Speaker 27 (35:08):
It's not.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Our freedom is not a self evident I don't think,
as Thomas Jefferson said it was. We have to keep
reminding people all the time for that.
Speaker 26 (35:21):
Yeah, it's a very important and I think that the
really important thing to think about is that you mentioned
Thomas Jefferson. You know, we're looking at our family fathers.
But what's lacking today, including an Elon Musk and all
these guys that are developing this technology, is a belief
in the One True God. And so when you look
at our family fathers, they this entire country is founded
(35:42):
on this theological preposition that God does exist, that God
created us, we're created in his own image, and because
we're created in his own image, we have certain inalienable
rights are given to us by God that cannot be
taken away by the government. But when you look at
the secularization of our society, they deny the very existence
of God and greeting people like Elon And so what
ends up happening is if you deny that God exists,
(36:04):
you deny our rights giver, and thus you deny our
any alienable rights. That's where you got get guys like
Sam Altman, who's the CEO of Open AI, who that
does chat JPT where he says that we're going to
need this new social construct or contract in the new
era of artificial intelligence, because I cannot have a constitutional
republic in the era of AI because of the things
(36:25):
like personal property rights and plagiarism and free speech and
all of that. That this is what happens when you
deny God.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
What do you know about Elon Musk, Is he like
a an avowed atheist or what do you know about
what he said about there being a power greater than us?
Speaker 26 (36:46):
Well, he believes that we're basically in a in a simulation,
so we're not even actually living our lives as much
less the matrix of the movie.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
And you know, we're in assimilation.
Speaker 10 (36:58):
Yes, yes, yea.
Speaker 26 (37:00):
And he would also he would also argue that that
you know that there is so there is no God
per se. But he's a quote quote unquote cultural Christian
whatever that means, which basically just means that he's implementing
certain you know, what he thinks are the important things
out of the Bible, but he doesn't necessarily acknowledge, uh,
you know, that there is a God or anything along
those lines. But what's interesting though, is he does have
(37:23):
the see he does seem to have this kind of
Jesus or God complex when you think about it, because
what he's doing with neuralink, he's he's helping the blind
to see, He's he's causing the paralyze to walk, and
he's actually talking about rapturing a certain percentage of of
the people on planet and taking them and sitting with
a new civilization in outer space up in Mars. It
kind of has this kind of God complex going on
(37:43):
with what's going on. It is it is interesting for sure.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Well, and and I've thought about this a lot, and
regardless of where you are personally on the God question,
the whole notion of being a countable to something greater
than yourself is holy and completely incompatible with the average
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authoritarian dictator. And that's why people of faith are always
on the front lines of attack in communism. That's all
they want to do is take away that sense of
faith that even leaders, in fact, particularly leaders, have to
(38:31):
be accountable to something greater than themselves, otherwise they will
appoint themselves as God in their universe and in everyone else's.
It is very upsetting that Musk is really on that road,
because it's deadly dangerous.
Speaker 8 (38:50):
We've seen it again and again.
Speaker 26 (38:53):
Absolutely, and this all goes back to Rose thirteen, where
where the Bible says that that all leaders, you know
what you know, what you know in politics and government
or anything like that, bars are put there by God himself.
And that show that shows Christians that even our leaders
are underneath the responsibility and underneath the regulations that God
puts forth and under underneath the responsibility that God puts forth.
(39:15):
And and dictators do not like that, like you said,
because that means that they are beholden to somebody else
and they can't just do whatever they want.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
Tell everybody, boy, I wish I could talk longer.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Tell everybody about following the Leader and where people can
get that book.
Speaker 26 (39:31):
Yeah, definitely following the Leader of diving into like the
history of the cults of personality and the cults and
the CIA and the FBI and intelligence agencies mkulture all
the fun stuff. You guys connectedly reorder that at gatekeepers
online dot com.
Speaker 8 (39:44):
When is it out?
Speaker 26 (39:46):
It'll be out probably by the end of this year.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Wonderful.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
Jeff Dornic d O R and I K. Always a
pleasure to talk to you. Looking forward to the next time.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
We'll be right back after this.
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It's just heavy, you know, it's a heavy It's a
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Speaker 7 (45:05):
Welcome back to Allan Nathan's All Stars here on the
main Street Radio Network. I'm Karen Katalene, and what a
fun chat we get to have to wrap up this
hour on Allan Nathan's All Stars. Doctor Gilda Carl joins us.
She's known by her listeners and followers as Doctor Gilda.
(45:28):
She was the host of Fox's Doctor Gilda, TV show pilot,
MTV's Love Doc, and TV shows on Trinity Broadcasting Network.
She wrote the thirty second Therapist column for The Today
Show and the ESK Doctor Gilda column in The National
Inquirer and for match dot com. She was the therapist
(45:50):
in HBO's Emmy Award winning Telling Nicholas. Her latest book
is Real Men Don't Go Woke. Love that title. Doctor Gilder,
thanks for joining us on the.
Speaker 16 (46:05):
Great to Have.
Speaker 32 (46:07):
Yeah, well, I'm supposed to talk to you about this
because you are female and you.
Speaker 23 (46:13):
Know what's going on today as well.
Speaker 7 (46:15):
Not only that, but I'm an MSW. I used to
practice in the mental health field, although I didn't get
it right, so I left and became a talk show
host instead, you know, practicing.
Speaker 32 (46:28):
Yeah, I think, thank you.
Speaker 7 (46:33):
Well, you're talking about one of my favorite subjects about
masculinity and how November was Men's Equality Months, which I
don't know what that means exactly, but I do know
that when the left was trying to pretend that suddenly
they like men after spending fifteen years calling masculinity toxic.
(46:57):
I don't think it's working.
Speaker 32 (47:00):
Let's say you, well, well, I absolutely agree with you.
Speaker 23 (47:04):
We have all seen through the veil.
Speaker 32 (47:07):
It is bs. They don't mean what they're talking about.
They spend twenty million dollars trying to find out what
makes men tick, and they can spend under twenty dollars
and read real men don't go woke because all the
data is in there. It's there. It's talking about what
(47:27):
real men are going through now. Actually, somebody commented that they.
Speaker 23 (47:34):
Believe this is a love letter for men.
Speaker 32 (47:37):
It's talking about what they've been through, what they are
challenged by those who have stood up, and what they
must do. But it doesn't stop there because I also
show them that the answer to everything right now is
in the hands of women, making it safe for for
(48:00):
men to speak, to speak out without being castigated and
challenged and emasculated. Well I didn't say castrated, but that's
all part of.
Speaker 8 (48:16):
It, saying emasculated.
Speaker 23 (48:18):
The same thing. That's right, same thing.
Speaker 7 (48:21):
So win our appetite. Appetite on this book a little bit.
I'm looking at it on Amazon right now. Real men
don't go broke the book. They would not publish truth
not broke. Yeah, it says the truth that must be told.
(48:41):
Give us a little bit of that truth it must
be told.
Speaker 8 (48:45):
And you're telling it.
Speaker 32 (48:47):
Well, I am telling the truth. And first of all,
nobody would publish the book from the big publishers and
I have.
Speaker 23 (48:53):
This is my nineteenth book. I've worked with the big publishers.
I've gotten into arguments with them in the past, but
they did not.
Speaker 32 (48:59):
Want to publish this book because what I learn is
that the majority of our editors are anti woke. They
are in their mid thirties or in their early thirties,
and they do not want anything published that is anti woke.
What I have found is that a man wakes up
(49:20):
in the morning, tries to get to work, he's automatically
called toxic. And where does he go from there? You know,
the pendulum swings from one extreme to the next until.
Speaker 23 (49:29):
It finds it's modicum.
Speaker 32 (49:31):
But here we are with men trying to survive in business,
in their family, lives with women, and they every step
of the way, they are being told be quiet. I
don't need your help for this, I don't need your name.
I don't need your children. I don't even want to
have kids with you. And they, the younger men are
(49:52):
pushing towards families. They want to get married and have children.
But those women of their same ilk are finding it otherwise.
So they don't want what the men are wanting. Not
to disconnect right then and there right So what happens problems.
Speaker 8 (50:13):
All the way.
Speaker 7 (50:14):
Since the seventies, women were told not only a woman
needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. But
we were taught that if we did want a man,
he had to be allan Alden, Tom Selleck or an
earlier generation. He had to be Ashley Wilkes and not
Rhett Butler. And the dirty little secret is women love
(50:39):
want sheep dogs. We want sheep dogs who want to
protect their families.
Speaker 32 (50:48):
That's correct. And even when we speak that kind of language,
we are told by the other women. Notice it's other women.
Oh no, we don't need anybody to protect us. We
can do this all ourselves. Well, how is that working
for you, ladies?
Speaker 23 (51:07):
You know?
Speaker 32 (51:08):
I give, I give calensely, I give advice on my website,
and people are coming to me.
Speaker 23 (51:13):
The women are coming to me. They can't find men.
Speaker 18 (51:16):
Well, what do you.
Speaker 32 (51:17):
Expect when you keep pushing them when you hate.
Speaker 7 (51:19):
I mean a lot of women are taught to hate men.
I've got to just point out, we don't have much
time left. It's really really a short interview, and that
is that this feminization of America, feminization of a country,
is really more of a tactic than a goal, and
it's a tactic towards socialism and communism. To feminize America
(51:43):
is to make us dependent on government, not on men,
or self sufficient in any way. I think that has
been exposed with books like yours, who are saying that's
just nonsense, nonsense, that.
Speaker 32 (51:58):
Is nonsense, and who voted for mom Gani in New York,
young women, right, So if they are carrying the torch,
I'm telling Republicans and men in particular, you get out
there to vote and you start making your voices heard.
Because what the women have said to shut up and
(52:19):
be quiet and just support us and protect us whenever
we want is not flying. And men are seeing through
this and they're disgusted. Some men are saying to their sons,
don't go out with women, don't date, don't marry, And
that's not an answer.
Speaker 7 (52:35):
Left us love men as long as they're wearing a dress.
But if they're wearing pants, left us hate men. Your
book sounds delightful. Everybody has to get it.
Speaker 8 (52:50):
I love it, is it?
Speaker 23 (52:52):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (52:54):
Real men don't go woke. Thank you so much, Doctor Gilda.
Love to have you tell my pleasure, our pleasure. Well
that does it for this edition of the Allen Nathan
All Stars tunent every weekday for more Alan Nathan All Stars,
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You sound like Sherlock Holmes, only only better.
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Mister Holmes or trusted psidekick the doctor. So there's lots
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Have thought about them, have you not?
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Oh?
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My heavens, yes, not including This isn't what you were
slated to talk about. But the former vice president choice,
the former vice president selected to run with Kamikammie La Harris,
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billion dollars being diverted to bring terras into Minnesota. Do
you have a thought about that before we start talking
about that other problem? There's so many, as you said,
still diggery.
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Indeed, don't let's not forget that Timmy's wife dearly enjoys
the smell of burning tires at night in the summer.
You know that's a mostly peaceful thought, Miss Kathleen. Of course,
of course, Timmy's going to import as many terrorists in
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the nation. He's following in the proud footsteps of Betsy Hodges,
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the of the DFL. The Democrat Party in Minnesota makes
no bones about the fact that they've always been a
socialist organization and they judge themselves in consanguineans alliance with
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the Jihad. So they're going to bring lots of Hodges in.
Speaker 8 (03:34):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Are you still there?
Speaker 10 (03:37):
Oh I'm here. Oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
All of a sudden, I thought, oh God, I lost him.
Speaker 10 (03:43):
You haven't lost me.
Speaker 9 (03:44):
I'm standing by like a mean dog on a weeklyas
to do violence on your behalf if you have enough
money to pay me.
Speaker 10 (03:52):
That's what I do. For sale, for hire, for hire.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
What bothers me and about stories like this Timmy Walt's story,
which is just getting started, is the number of Republican
pundits or conservative pundits who like to characterize Timmy.
Speaker 8 (04:15):
As you put him, as.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Merely a dupe, a dupe that he just was incompetent.
And this not only is that so ridiculous, but they
miss the point that this is highly likely to have
been deliberate and malicious. Do you already see evidence of that,
or is it just the pattern of behavior of radical leftists.
Speaker 10 (04:41):
Well, it's radical leftists, and it's not him alone.
Speaker 9 (04:44):
He's part of a larger organization. They're all about group
activities on the heart left, and this is just one
of them. Remember, they are experts. At your money, there
would be very little hardcore left wing organization in this
country about tax dollars flowing to them.
Speaker 8 (05:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Well, and it's a great way to Who thinks that
there weren't I don't have evidence of his, but who
thinks there weren't kickbacks of a billion dollars? I mean,
you know that's where they say a billion here, a
billion there. Pretty soon you're talking about real money.
Speaker 10 (05:21):
Yes, yes, mss Kataline.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
These NGOs that the blue cities and blue states are
so fond of is the filter for the tax dollars
that they use to pay the parasite class democrats. Yeah,
to organize, to harvest ballots, to register debt bodies and
illegal aliens and things like that. They run a spoils
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process and they subscribe to power through the left. This way,
everybody gets their share of it. I want minimal government,
a government tell on a diet like some sort of
a Czechoslovakian underwear model that they want. They want a big, corpulent,
loud government that rewards them, you know, completely just in
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ideas and laws, but also lining the pocket. So they're
voting for Santa Claus government every chance they get.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
And as witnessed by the fact that the greatest threat
in the history.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Of their lives was Doge.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
And exposing usaid that they took greater umbrage to that
than anything else you could have done to them, because
that was their honeypot.
Speaker 9 (06:38):
Right You think that there was nine to eleven that
that somebody had flown a couple of passenger airliners, you know,
into the Art museum or something.
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
Well might as well look at yet another absolute atrocity
that the shooting of two National Guard people in Washington,
d C.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Just last week.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
The quote is we imported the problem yet another example
of deliberate and malicious No.
Speaker 10 (07:17):
No, I completely agree with you.
Speaker 9 (07:20):
I love how the New York Times and characters like
Jen Pasaki are furiously claiming that all of these people
were vetted, even though we have people in the defense
establishment saying they were not vetted for this. They were
vetted only to the extent that they were vetted and
evaluated for their value as paramilitaries in Afghanistan, not for
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their ability to be resettled in suburban America, as Katleen.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Well, and they did so, they rolled out the red
carpet for them. In fact, they put them ahead of
the line in places like New York.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Am I wrong? I think I read that.
Speaker 9 (08:03):
You're not incorrect. And they have all of these benefits
being extended to them, and they have these NGO agencies
that are helping them quote unquote resettle. Well, there's some
sort of advocate in Bellingham, Washington for this guy who
keeps talking about how he was suicidal, his family was
(08:25):
afraid he was falling apart, etc. Did that person ever call,
say the FBI and say, I think there's a problem here.
What happened to see something? Say something?
Speaker 7 (08:35):
Well, and we had a guest earlier who said that
being mentally ill and being a terrorist or not mutually exclusive.
And they always call terrorists mentally ill because they want
to obfuscate the fact that they're terrorists.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
Yeah, I agree with you. And it could be the
radicalization that this man underwent occur in the social welfare
agency that was supposed to be an advocate for that community.
Speaker 11 (09:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Well, it's clear that we don't know, and there was
no way to adequately vet him coming out of Afghanistan.
My understanding was that the people who truly did help
the Americans in Afghanistan were not as readily welcomed as
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the terrors who didn't. I'd like to see that investigated
as well.
Speaker 9 (09:34):
Well, so would I one more time. They've inflicted a
horrendous problem on the American public. I don't think that
Joe Biden was conscious enough during the four years of
his male administration to know everything that was going on.
This has Susan Rice and Ben Rhodes's greasy footprints all
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over it.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
And the Potus forty four as well, who never met
an enemy of America that he didn't like.
Speaker 10 (10:04):
Oh, I agree with you. That's what we have.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
And you know that they're going to raise Holy Hell
when they start ejecting these people.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Yeah, but that just means you're doing the right thing.
The accountability factor is what I think that the Trump
administration is in a race against time. Nils, could you
stay for one.
Speaker 10 (10:27):
More segment, I'd be delighted.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
We would be delighted to have you.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Nils Gravilius will talk about some of his books and more.
What a colorful, fascinating character, Nils Gravilius.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
Stay tuned.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
We you are listening to the Allan Nathan Allstars. I'm
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Speaker 7 (15:06):
Welcome back to Allan Nathan's All Stars. I'm Karen Katalen,
happily joining the other All Stars in great memoriam and
in honor of Alan Nathan, whom we lost very very recently.
We continue this show in his memory, and what a
(15:29):
great joy it is to talk to Nils Gravilius, prominent
Los Angeles based private investigator, formerly of the Pinkerton Organization
and known for his investigations in the Wonderland Avenue murders.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Let's talk.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Thank you for joining us, Nils Gravilius. Let's talk about
your book out in twenty twenty six, The Last Lawman.
And by the way, thanks so much for staying with us.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
Oh, it's my sincere pleasure. I'd be very pleased to
talk about The Last Lawman. It's my true to life
memoir about thirty years a field under my own aegis
as a private detective. In my prior work as a
Pinkerton and as a soldier, I had an above average
(16:19):
education as a detective, being in army counter intelligence and
then being involved in the Pinkerton Service and other contracting
or situations that sort of thing. I went through two
layers of police academy at Rio Hondo and took AOT
in Iowa when I lived in Iowa. So I have
(16:41):
all of the education a police officer police detective would
have without a lieutenant breathing down my neck about what
I say. People in the media say what I think
is a good case versus what the department might think
is a good case. I've had some real advantages. The
(17:02):
disadvantage sometimes is things like operating without backup when I
was out picking up bail fugitives. It's not as if
I could get on the radio and get a helicopter
up in the air thirty officers to join me pursuit
or something like that. I had to do it on
my own and had to use different tactics and my
(17:24):
risk management at old times. But I've survived it so far.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Well, tempt us or entice us with one of these
stories from your book, or at least enough so people can.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
Pre order it.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Most layman people who don't have a background in personal
private investigations, what they know is from television. What they
know is we were talking earlier about Sherlock Holmes. Give us,
Give us at least part of his story that you
relate in your book that would make us want to
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read the rest.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
Okay, So occasionally we'll hear about a dirty, fealthy, corrupt
government official, will we not?
Speaker 10 (18:08):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Oh, yeah, that happens.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
One time lawyer came to me in Los Angeles who
said he had been given a series of rulings from
a judge with no basis in law. And not support
it by facts. And he was mystified, and his client
wanted him to check and see if there was some
conflict of interest between the judge and the opposing party.
(18:34):
So I investigated the judge and the opposing party and
I couldn't find anything to tie them together other than
the case. There was no shared business, shared property, a
secret relationship between the party and the judge. And then
I was going through things after a week, kind of
(18:54):
banging my head against the wall, Miss Cataline, and I
found the notice for a continuing education seminar that the
lawyer representing the opposing party was putting on and his
guest of honor was the judge. And I thought to myself,
what if the relationship is between the lawyer and the judge.
(19:17):
Now they were an odd match. I was wondering, are
they in business together secretly? Because he was twenty years younger,
this lawyer, He was twenty years younger than the judge.
She was much older. He was a skinny, skinny like
a broomstick. It ca aboug crane, if you want to
think yes. And she looked like Joe Peshey.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
She was a woman who looks like Joe PESHI really.
Speaker 10 (19:42):
Right, A troll, A bridge troll.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
I mean she was that unattractive, But I mean there's
someone for everyone, right, So I don't know. My old partner,
Don Muon and I we went to this seminar dressed
in coats and ties and signed in as if we
were lawyers taking continuing education. And I could barely stay
awake during the morning presentation. And then they served the
rubber chicken lunch, and they were seated at the dais
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and there was a whiteboard behind them, and Don and
I got up to look at the whiteboard and see
if we could see anything at the table, and the
lawyer and the judge were holding hands under the table,
and so I got my camera as if to record
the things on the whiteboard from my continuing education, and
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turned and captured them engaged in what we'll call four play,
Miss Kataline, the judge and the lawyer right now. So
this is a superior court junch, somebody with enormous power.
Lawyers don't like having problems with judges. So this is
nitroglycerin to handle, right, absolutely, So he asked me a
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couple of times, how do I handle this? What do
I do with his evidence? I told him. You go
into court at your next court appearance, and in front
of the judge and the opposing attorney, you ask the
judge to go into chambers because you'd like to discuss
a matter relevant to the to the to the situation. Yes,
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and I won't ruin the rest of the story by
telling you WHOA. You will have to buy the book,
miss Kill.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Are so good at that?
Speaker 8 (21:28):
That's great?
Speaker 7 (21:29):
Now that was I asked you to do that, and
you indeed did it.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Now we all want to know what happened. Well, call
him on the carpet.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Well, you'll have to read the book.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
It's The Last law Man. It's available for pre order
now on Amazon and it will come out just in
time for Father's Day. You can buy a copy for
your father if you care to read it.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
Yeah, in June then.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
It's in the can I presume and it will be
out point And that is great.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
The Last Lawman.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
We have a couple of minutes. What do you want
to say about either of these cases? Is there something that.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
You'd care to prefer?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Let's talk about the Tim Tim Waltz's case. What do
you think we're going to find? You think he's either
going to step down. I think he needs to be charged.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
Personally, I think he badly needs to be charged. And
if he were a Republican governor, he'd, you know, the
news media would be hounding him, doing him to know
when he was going to resign and how he was
still beating his wife and things like that.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
He will he will have some sort of.
Speaker 9 (22:40):
A fine print defense, is what I'm going to say.
He's going to have something that shows that he was
entitled to do this, authorized to do it, it was
within his powers, or it was an oversight somebody else
was supposed to handle it. It's not my dog.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
He didn't bite you. You kicked him first.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
They're not my pansy, right right, So you've heard that
those are not my parents.
Speaker 10 (23:05):
Right correct.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
And the news media is going to work over time
to drive his getaway call. But it's the US Attorney's
Office is on top of anything. They'll roll up that
entire network. Everybody involved in that has dirty hands. And
we need to start ejecting some of these people. And
as they've already achieved citizenship and they're involved in criminality,
(23:27):
we need to unwind their citizenship and send them back
to the Salmonia very well, so much.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Couldn't agree more. There are so many people working to
with hate and viciousness towards their very own country. It's nihilistic.
It's worth a whole nother interview with you, Nils Gravili
is always a pleasure having you. Thank you, and best
(23:53):
of luck with the book. We'll have you before it
comes out. We'll be right back after this.
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Speaker 7 (29:06):
Welcome back to Allan Nathan's All Stars.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I'm Karen Katalen. Always pleasure.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Has been a pleasure for many years to be part
of Ellen Nathan's All Stars.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Now we do that.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Show in memoriam to Alan Nathan, who was forced to
be reckoned with and still is in many many ways.
I'm pleased to welcome founder and CEO of Pickaxe, the
groundbreaking social media platform built on two uncompromising principles, freedom
(29:43):
of speech and freedom of reach. Love that he hosts
The Jeff Dornick Show and his newest book is called
Following the Leader. Jeff Dornick joins us right now on
the Allen Nathan All Stars. Hi, Jeff, good to have
you along once again.
Speaker 26 (30:00):
Yeah, thanks having me back on.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
So, uh, Elon Musk doesn't much like the HB one
visus for certain Third world countries, and he's once again
waiting into politics. I love him as a defender of
freeze speech, not so much when he gets involved in politics.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
What do you say about this?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Is this self serving on his part or he's certainly
entitled to speak up about it, but I wish he'd
more stay in his lane.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
I guess what do you think?
Speaker 23 (30:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 26 (30:39):
I mean, the reality is I don't I don't mind
too much with with people that aren't, you know, actively
involved in politics speaking their mind, you know, just because
you know, he has as much to say as the
rest of us when it comes to, uh, you know,
what's supposed to be our self governed society and all that.
At the same time, it doesn't change the fact that
he's wrong, and he's wrong the whole host of things,
(31:02):
and that's that's the reality. That's the reality that we
have to face. And so so for me, I look
at somebody like Elon Musk and it seems as if
everything that he talks about is self serving. He's looking
at it from his perspective and his ultimate goals. And
just just last week he was he was actually explaining
what his ultimate goal is when it comes to everything
(31:24):
that he's working on, from Teslas to the Optimist robots,
to artificial intelligence, to everything and that is actually using
and this is it, This is his own words, both
on Joe Rogan's podcast and at his Tesla shareholders meeting,
which will to use capitalism in order to usher in
a communist utopia where humans no longer have to be
in the workforce and instead all the work will be
(31:46):
done by AI and robots so we can just go
about our lives not having any responsibility at all. That
is his stated end game when it comes to everything
that he's working on.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Oh my god, I didn't know that. I didn't I
didn't know that. So he's falling for the utopian sirens
song of communism, and maybe he's also falling for a
lot of these dictator wannabes. They see themselves as the
(32:18):
savior of the world, and all of it ends up
happening is they cause misery and unhappiness because they row
people of their own agency.
Speaker 26 (32:32):
What say you, now, I would one hundred percent agree.
And the thing is that, and he's very smart in
the way that he's pitching this as well to people,
is that he understands the shortfallings of communism in general.
You know, because that's the argument that a lot of
US conservatives and even guys like Charlie Kirk would make
all the time. It's like name one, the name one
communist society does ever work. It's never worked in the
(32:53):
history of mankind. You can even go back to the
early New Testament. Look at the Book of Acts where
it says that the early Church was selling all their
possessions and sharing the monks themselves. What most people don't
talk about is a few books down the path and
the apostle Paul is having to go around the entire
all the European Church is begging for money to send
back to the to the Jerusalem Church because they ran
out of money because their communist utopia didn't work, and
(33:15):
so when we're looking at it, yeah, it's what Elon
is doing though, is what he's saying is that he
can usher into communist utopia because there will be a
surplus of resources because the AI robots will do everything,
which very well may be true because when you think
about it, they could theoretically be more effective at you know,
harvesting and growing food and all of that. The problem
(33:38):
that we face is now you're taking away the need
for human beings to be in the workforce, to have
any kind of responsibility, to be self sovereign, to be independent,
to have any constitutional right you can imagine, because if
you are beholden upon somebody else for your revenue, for
your food, for your housing, for all of that, all
of a sudden, you aren't actually free. You're a slave.
(33:59):
Even though you're not necess working. You have to do
what the person who's paying you asks you to do.
And that's the problem that we're going to be facing
come and he's predicting that we're going to be there
within the next decade.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
I don't think anybody could have said it more clearly
and more succinctly than you just did.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Jeff As I.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Was hearing you talk, I was thinking, you know, years
ago as a musical theater. And there's that wonderful phrase
from the Music Man when Harold Hill is selling a
bill of goods, but he is telling the truth because
he says, the idle brain is the devil's playground.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
And this is how it is.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
If you don't have a personal vested interest in your
own freedom, your own property, your own life, you are
going to be a slave to someone else who does
have an interest. I just wish it were more evident
what we're talking about, you know, and it's not.
Speaker 27 (35:08):
It's not.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Our freedom is not a self evident I don't think,
as Thomas Jefferson said it was. We have to keep
reminding people all the time for that.
Speaker 26 (35:21):
Yeah, it's a very important and I think that the
really important thing to think about is that you mentioned
Thomas Jefferson. You know, we're looking at our family fathers.
But what's lacking today, including an Elon Musk and all
these guys that are developing this technology, is a belief
in the One True God. And so when you look
at our family fathers, they this entire country is founded
(35:42):
on this theological preposition that God does exist, that God
created us, we're created in his own image, and because
we're created in his own image, we have certain inalienable
rights are given to us by God that cannot be
taken away by the government. But when you look at
the secularization of our society, they deny the very existence
of God and greeting people like Elon And so what
ends up happening is if you deny that God exists,
(36:04):
you deny our rights giver, and thus you deny our
any alienable rights. That's where you got get guys like
Sam Altman, who's the CEO of Open AI, who that
does chat JPT where he says that we're going to
need this new social construct or contract in the new
era of artificial intelligence, because I cannot have a constitutional
republic in the era of AI because of the things
(36:25):
like personal property rights and plagiarism and free speech and
all of that. That this is what happens when you
deny God.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
What do you know about Elon Musk, Is he like
a an avowed atheist or what do you know about
what he said about there being a power greater than us?
Speaker 26 (36:46):
Well, he believes that we're basically in a in a simulation,
so we're not even actually living our lives as much
less the matrix of the movie.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
And you know, we're in assimilation.
Speaker 10 (36:58):
Yes, yes, yea.
Speaker 26 (37:00):
And he would also he would also argue that that
you know that there is so there is no God
per se. But he's a quote quote unquote cultural Christian
whatever that means, which basically just means that he's implementing
certain you know, what he thinks are the important things
out of the Bible, but he doesn't necessarily acknowledge, uh,
you know, that there is a God or anything along
those lines. But what's interesting though, is he does have
(37:23):
the see he does seem to have this kind of
Jesus or God complex when you think about it, because
what he's doing with neuralink, he's he's helping the blind
to see, He's he's causing the paralyze to walk, and
he's actually talking about rapturing a certain percentage of of
the people on planet and taking them and sitting with
a new civilization in outer space up in Mars. It
kind of has this kind of God complex going on
(37:43):
with what's going on. It is it is interesting for sure.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Well, and and I've thought about this a lot, and
regardless of where you are personally on the God question,
the whole notion of being a countable to something greater
than yourself is holy and completely incompatible with the average
(38:09):
authoritarian dictator. And that's why people of faith are always
on the front lines of attack in communism. That's all
they want to do is take away that sense of
faith that even leaders, in fact, particularly leaders, have to
(38:31):
be accountable to something greater than themselves, otherwise they will
appoint themselves as God in their universe and in everyone else's.
It is very upsetting that Musk is really on that road,
because it's deadly dangerous.
Speaker 8 (38:50):
We've seen it again and again.
Speaker 26 (38:53):
Absolutely, and this all goes back to Rose thirteen, where
where the Bible says that that all leaders, you know
what you know, what you know in politics and government
or anything like that, bars are put there by God himself.
And that show that shows Christians that even our leaders
are underneath the responsibility and underneath the regulations that God
puts forth and under underneath the responsibility that God puts forth.
(39:15):
And and dictators do not like that, like you said,
because that means that they are beholden to somebody else
and they can't just do whatever they want.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
Tell everybody, boy, I wish I could talk longer.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Tell everybody about following the Leader and where people can
get that book.
Speaker 26 (39:31):
Yeah, definitely following the Leader of diving into like the
history of the cults of personality and the cults and
the CIA and the FBI and intelligence agencies mkulture all
the fun stuff. You guys connectedly reorder that at gatekeepers
online dot com.
Speaker 8 (39:44):
When is it out?
Speaker 26 (39:46):
It'll be out probably by the end of this year.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Wonderful.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
Jeff Dornic d O R and I K. Always a
pleasure to talk to you. Looking forward to the next time.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
We'll be right back after this.
Speaker 27 (39:59):
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Speaker 7 (45:05):
Welcome back to Allan Nathan's All Stars here on the
main Street Radio Network. I'm Karen Katalene, and what a
fun chat we get to have to wrap up this
hour on Allan Nathan's All Stars. Doctor Gilda Carl joins us.
She's known by her listeners and followers as Doctor Gilda.
(45:28):
She was the host of Fox's Doctor Gilda, TV show pilot,
MTV's Love Doc, and TV shows on Trinity Broadcasting Network.
She wrote the thirty second Therapist column for The Today
Show and the ESK Doctor Gilda column in The National
Inquirer and for match dot com. She was the therapist
(45:50):
in HBO's Emmy Award winning Telling Nicholas. Her latest book
is Real Men Don't Go Woke. Love that title. Doctor Gilder,
thanks for joining us on the.
Speaker 16 (46:05):
Great to Have.
Speaker 32 (46:07):
Yeah, well, I'm supposed to talk to you about this
because you are female and you.
Speaker 23 (46:13):
Know what's going on today as well.
Speaker 7 (46:15):
Not only that, but I'm an MSW. I used to
practice in the mental health field, although I didn't get
it right, so I left and became a talk show
host instead, you know, practicing.
Speaker 32 (46:28):
Yeah, I think, thank you.
Speaker 7 (46:33):
Well, you're talking about one of my favorite subjects about
masculinity and how November was Men's Equality Months, which I
don't know what that means exactly, but I do know
that when the left was trying to pretend that suddenly
they like men after spending fifteen years calling masculinity toxic.
(46:57):
I don't think it's working.
Speaker 32 (47:00):
Let's say you, well, well, I absolutely agree with you.
Speaker 23 (47:04):
We have all seen through the veil.
Speaker 32 (47:07):
It is bs. They don't mean what they're talking about.
They spend twenty million dollars trying to find out what
makes men tick, and they can spend under twenty dollars
and read real men don't go woke because all the
data is in there. It's there. It's talking about what
(47:27):
real men are going through now. Actually, somebody commented that they.
Speaker 23 (47:34):
Believe this is a love letter for men.
Speaker 32 (47:37):
It's talking about what they've been through, what they are
challenged by those who have stood up, and what they
must do. But it doesn't stop there because I also
show them that the answer to everything right now is
in the hands of women, making it safe for for
(48:00):
men to speak, to speak out without being castigated and
challenged and emasculated. Well I didn't say castrated, but that's
all part of.
Speaker 8 (48:16):
It, saying emasculated.
Speaker 23 (48:18):
The same thing. That's right, same thing.
Speaker 7 (48:21):
So win our appetite. Appetite on this book a little bit.
I'm looking at it on Amazon right now. Real men
don't go broke the book. They would not publish truth
not broke. Yeah, it says the truth that must be told.
(48:41):
Give us a little bit of that truth it must
be told.
Speaker 8 (48:45):
And you're telling it.
Speaker 32 (48:47):
Well, I am telling the truth. And first of all,
nobody would publish the book from the big publishers and
I have.
Speaker 23 (48:53):
This is my nineteenth book. I've worked with the big publishers.
I've gotten into arguments with them in the past, but
they did not.
Speaker 32 (48:59):
Want to publish this book because what I learn is
that the majority of our editors are anti woke. They
are in their mid thirties or in their early thirties,
and they do not want anything published that is anti woke.
What I have found is that a man wakes up
(49:20):
in the morning, tries to get to work, he's automatically
called toxic. And where does he go from there? You know,
the pendulum swings from one extreme to the next until.
Speaker 23 (49:29):
It finds it's modicum.
Speaker 32 (49:31):
But here we are with men trying to survive in business,
in their family, lives with women, and they every step
of the way, they are being told be quiet. I
don't need your help for this, I don't need your name.
I don't need your children. I don't even want to
have kids with you. And they, the younger men are
(49:52):
pushing towards families. They want to get married and have children.
But those women of their same ilk are finding it otherwise.
So they don't want what the men are wanting. Not
to disconnect right then and there right So what happens problems.
Speaker 8 (50:13):
All the way.
Speaker 7 (50:14):
Since the seventies, women were told not only a woman
needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. But
we were taught that if we did want a man,
he had to be allan Alden, Tom Selleck or an
earlier generation. He had to be Ashley Wilkes and not
Rhett Butler. And the dirty little secret is women love
(50:39):
want sheep dogs. We want sheep dogs who want to
protect their families.
Speaker 32 (50:48):
That's correct. And even when we speak that kind of language,
we are told by the other women. Notice it's other women.
Oh no, we don't need anybody to protect us. We
can do this all ourselves. Well, how is that working
for you, ladies?
Speaker 23 (51:07):
You know?
Speaker 32 (51:08):
I give, I give calensely, I give advice on my website,
and people are coming to me.
Speaker 23 (51:13):
The women are coming to me. They can't find men.
Speaker 18 (51:16):
Well, what do you.
Speaker 32 (51:17):
Expect when you keep pushing them when you hate.
Speaker 7 (51:19):
I mean a lot of women are taught to hate men.
I've got to just point out, we don't have much
time left. It's really really a short interview, and that
is that this feminization of America, feminization of a country,
is really more of a tactic than a goal, and
it's a tactic towards socialism and communism. To feminize America
(51:43):
is to make us dependent on government, not on men,
or self sufficient in any way. I think that has
been exposed with books like yours, who are saying that's
just nonsense, nonsense, that.
Speaker 32 (51:58):
Is nonsense, and who voted for mom Gani in New York,
young women, right, So if they are carrying the torch,
I'm telling Republicans and men in particular, you get out
there to vote and you start making your voices heard.
Because what the women have said to shut up and
(52:19):
be quiet and just support us and protect us whenever
we want is not flying. And men are seeing through
this and they're disgusted. Some men are saying to their sons,
don't go out with women, don't date, don't marry, And
that's not an answer.
Speaker 7 (52:35):
Left us love men as long as they're wearing a dress.
But if they're wearing pants, left us hate men. Your
book sounds delightful. Everybody has to get it.
Speaker 8 (52:50):
I love it, is it?
Speaker 23 (52:52):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (52:54):
Real men don't go woke. Thank you so much, Doctor Gilda.
Love to have you tell my pleasure, our pleasure. Well
that does it for this edition of the Allen Nathan
All Stars tunent every weekday for more Alan Nathan All Stars,
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