November 19, 2025 • 19 mins
In this hour of The Andrea Kaye Show, we dive straight into the rot exposed by the Epstein files, the vote in Congress, and why the same people screaming “democracy” are the ones hiding names, blocking accountability, and weaponizing our own intelligence agencies and DOJ against the American people, all while pretending this is just politics as usual. We then shift to Indiana University being ranked the worst in the nation for free expression, exposing how the left deliberately targets so-called red states and “safe” communities to flip the next generation against the very values they were raised with. Andrea and I also unpack the growing lawfare regime in places like Texas and Arizona, where medical boards and bar associations have become tools to crush dissent, and we close by talking about Thanksgiving, why Chris Matthews wants Trump supporters to “keep quiet,” and how you can engage your family with courage, pointed questions, and truth instead of fear. Along the way, I share why I built Pickax as a creator-first, censorship-resistant platform where human beings—not algorithms, not bureaucrats—decide what voices rise and what conversations matter.
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Speaker 1 (01:49):
Welcome back to Tonight's Andrey Ksha. This is our two of
our Taco Tuesday edition. It just occurred to me during
the break that we are actually rolling into next week
being Thanksgiving. Hmm, and I'm already starting to hear rumblings
from the legacy media trying to caution Trumpies and Trumpers
(02:11):
to watch their tongue at the Thanksgiving table. We're going
to talk about that this hour and so much more.
If you miss any part of tonight's show, download the podcast.
Last Hour. We spend a good bit of time delving
into going to the scum that is at the bottom
of the Epstein files barrel, and that's where we find democrats,
(02:31):
not Republicans, and certainly not President Trump. If you missed
Last Hour, download the podcast. We also talked about an
program called opt which is rewarding foreigners at the expense
of Americans. So so much good stuff we got into
last Hour, and I know you're not going to want
to have missed it or this hour. Here to discuss
free speech is Jeff Dornick. He's been on The AK
(02:53):
Show quite a few times and we just love him.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Here.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
He is founder and CEO of Pickaxe, which is a
new social media platform. If you have not signed up
for an account there, do so today. And he's also
author of a book called Following the Leader. And he
joins me, now, hey, Jeff, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Hey, thanks thanks letting me back on.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Of course, I was reminded by Chris Matthews. No less,
mister Obama gives me a thrill up my leg. Remember him,
Jeff Dorning?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Oh yeah, I think he was. He was the one
that was talking about literally feeling it tingle going up
as well.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yes, yes, perfect day to be reminded of him when
we're talking about the Epstein files. In fact, before I
get into Chris Matthews him warning people because you're here
to talk about free speech, I do want to get
your take on the Epstein vote today, four hundred and
twenty seven to one. Clay Higgins was the only one
who didn't vote for it. It's just it's just another day,
(03:49):
another revelation that the Dems are always guilty of what
they accuse others of. We got Larry Summers running and hiding.
We've got Delegate Plasket being busted for her communications with Epstein.
We got Bill and Hillary refusing to comply with a subpoena.
What's your take on the story of the day around
(04:09):
the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I wish that the I wish that that there had
been this vote, and that the Trump administration in general
had moved had moved quicker and as opposed to everything
being delayed so much, especially after Pam Bondi and Cash
Mittel did that whole fiasco. Yeah, but you know, it's like,
you know, it's better, it's better late than never. Let's
let's get the information out there. And I think for me,
looking at specifically this this Epstein case, I think that
(04:34):
this is going to go deeper than even what we're
going to realize when it comes to what files will
actually get released. I think there's going to be a
lot so that's going to be you know, hidden and
covered up even still after this vote, you know. And
and to me, especially listening to Mike Johnson talking about
it as well, and to me, it's it's obvious as
an outsider looking in it, it would seem obvious that
(04:55):
that there was definitely some intelligence agencies that were working
in cahoots with Epstein, and that to me, that's probably
the big reason why the administration was trying to keep
it under reps for so long. Otherwise I can't think
of a legitimate reason why it would have taken six
months in order to be at this point. But at
least we're at this point now.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, I agree. And what I hope is now that
we're at this point, I hope President Trump gets rid
of Pam Bondy, and because she did create a fiasco
for the President with the situation with her Bindergate and
all of that, but most importantly, because she has done
nothing to really hold anybody accountable for the crimes that
they've committed, whether it was crimes in covering up for Epstein,
(05:34):
crimes involved with young women associated with activities with Epstein,
or whether it's anybody else from the FBI and the
Department of Justice who weaponized the government against Americans while
covering up the crimes of the elite. Nobody has been
held accountable, and that, to me, is the real crime,
and that needs to end. There must be accountability. I
(05:55):
know President Trump wants to put this behind us. He's
called it a hoax. The Epstein situation is not a hoax.
It's not we you know, Daniel Greenfield did a great article.
I went through some of the details last Hour. You
can read it at front Page mag where he detailed
it all the gory details of a lot of people
in the state of New Mexico who paved the way
and covered up for Jeffrey Epstein, including removing him from
(06:18):
the the the what's it called when you have to
sign up to be the to acknowledge that you're convicted
the sex offender Registry. They took him off the Sex
Offender Registry. Look, we can't get this country back to
truly being maga make America great again without people who
have worked to destroy it from within unless we have accountability.
(06:40):
That's my thoughts yours, No, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I one hundred percent agree, and I think I think
it's also one of those things. And this has been
my my frustration with the entire DOJ in general. I mean,
you've got you know, the DJ with Pam Bond, You've
got Cash to tell who I like Cash. I've had
I've had Cash on my show. I've interviewed him when
he was promoting government, gangsters and the whole deal, you know,
and the and the and the whole the whole group.
Like you know. The problem that I have is I
(07:05):
don't mind if you know there's for some reason, like
a judge isn't going to let you release documents. Okay, cool,
Just be honest with us. The American people like you
work for us. We're supposed to be a self governed society.
You're not supposed to keep secrets from us, except in
very extreme circumstances. And our federal government goes way overboard
and redacting as much as they possibly can. And I
think a lot of it is because our own government
(07:25):
is involved in things that they should not be involved in.
And I think in this case, when you're looking at
Epsteine again, allegedly I'll put that out there, but allegedly,
our own you know, intelligence agencies were involved with with
the with potentially being involved with with sex trafficking and
in it, whether directly or indirectly, enabling Jeffrey Epstein in
order to do this so that way he can blackmail
(07:45):
world leaders and politicians and things like that, so that
way our agency, our agencies can then have influence over
world affairs and who makes what decisions and all that.
Like when you actually get down to the crux of it,
if we don't hold people accountable and we don't come clean.
How are we ever going to have a legitimate government
that is not continuing to do these types of things.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Absolutely, you're right on about that. I want to switch
gears and get back into some free speech stuff because
I haven't really been aware of what's you know, we
think of the Midwest Midwest values well, I guess Indiana
University is considered to be the worst in the US
for freedom of expression in Indiana. Jeff Dornick, what's going
(08:26):
on in Indiana at this university?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'm honestly not surprised, you know, because when you think
about it, some of the worst purveyors of the most
extreme leftist ideology and worldview and censorship and the whole
deal are actually found in red states. And the thing
that we cannot forget is that just because it's a
red state does not mean that every single city is
(08:51):
a red city, and especially when you're dealing with the
education system. And I think what ends up happening is
is you look at a lot of these universities and
and you could say, the powers that be fill in
the blank, whoever that might be, they actually target their
attention more on the Red states and the Purple states,
and they do then they do the Blue States. The
Blue States, they just let it organically be leftists. I mean,
(09:12):
that's just you know, you're not surprised when you know
you've got you live out here in communists California and
uh and the university is a leftist. But it seems
like they focus a lot of their attention in these
states like Indiana and the Midwest and in the South,
and they they're at the main reason is because they
can propagandize our children. They can they can convert young kids.
(09:33):
They grew up in conservative Christian households, and by the
time they are a sophomore in college, they're a full blown,
you know, flaming leftist. And I have family members where
it's happened to that. You homeschool your kids, conservative Christian,
they go to school, they go to college, and then
all of a sudden they are a Black Lives Matter activists,
and you're like, what can that happen? It's because they
focus their attention on the youth, on the college kids.
(09:56):
They get them away from the parents, they get them
out of the churches, they get them out of their
and then they can propagandize them. And they are phenomenal
inverning at an extremely high rate.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, and you're right to point out that they're targeting
red states for this. And I've got family in red states.
I say all the time, there's no such thing as
a red state, and we need to stop saying that
because it allows people like people in my own family
who think, oh, I'm living in this state, I don't
have to worry about this going on in a school.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Well, yeah you.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Do, because that's where the left is going. That's what
they're targeting. In fact, so many conservatives when mom Donnie
was running, they were like, oh, let New York City
go Islamo Kami, without understanding that the Democrat Socialist of
America that party is picking Islamo Kami's and having a
run for local office all over the country in places
(10:47):
like red states like Georgia. So the apathy the people think,
and that's not going to happen here in my home state.
That's how these red states go COMI and turn purple
and then solidly blue.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right, no one. And it's really interesting because you know,
I just had on doctor Mary, Kelly Boden and Rachel
Alexander on my show this morning, and you know, Rachel
is from Arizona and doctor Boden is from Texas and
they were talking about law there, and they're both from
traditionally red states, although Arizona has become much more purple
over the last several years, and Texas has this charcacter
(11:19):
of being read even though it's much more purple. And
in both of those instances, you have you know, medical
boards and state of bar associations and things like that
that are extreme leftists that are weaponized against conservatives and
free speech activists and people that are just telling the
truth and they weaponize it against these and predominantly conservative people.
(11:40):
And this is happening in allegedly red states like Texas
and Arizona, and this is this is one of those
things where we have to be careful that just because
a state typically will vote more Republican does not mean
that it's actually holding conservative values when you're coming to
the leadership of that state.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Absolutely, And it's also reminder that we need to get active.
So many conservatives and Christians think, well, their level of
activity only involves voting, and that's only when it's a
presidential race. But we need to get active, and we
need to do it at the local level, speaking of
at the local level. I got to get your take
on Chris Matthews mister tingle up his leg because he's
(12:20):
already setting the stage to try to tell Trumpers that
they need to keep their mouth shut on Thanksgiving. And so,
since you're all about free speech with your new social
media company, Pickax, I want to play this clip for
you and get your take on it, and get your
take on what advice you would give to people going
into the holiday season.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think the important message is the division coming up
at our own Thanksgiving tables. I think that there will
be a lot of families where some people go into
the room, the dinner table when they go I better
not say certain things. Better not say something things because
it's going to offend certain people.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The Trumpies.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Your reaction, yeah, I mean, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
My thing is that maybe it's just you know, I
live out here in communist California, so I'm surrounded by lefties.
I always want to have conversations. But what I think
the thing is that I think a lot of people
are afraid on both sides of the isle that they're
going to go into you know, their their Thanksgiving dinner
and they're going to have a big blow up fight
over politics. And the thing is is that, you know,
I think it's important that, especially as we get together
(13:22):
with family, especially people that we disagree with, that number one,
we're coming together because we love each other, but number two,
that we don't shy away from important conversations that we
need to be having as a society, as a family,
as a culture, because you have, we have conflicting world views.
But the thing is that that go into it, engage
in those conversations. But the thing that I've learned is
that is that you know, when I'm having conversations with
(13:44):
people on the left, fit friends, family, the whole deal,
I ask pointed questions and then shut up and I listen,
and I listen to them rationalize, and if you ask
the right questions, you can guide the conversation in a
way that, interestingly, you will realize that your lefty friends
are actually a lot more conservative when you when you
actually push them.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Out of It's interesting you should say that because that's
kind of the tactic that Charlie Kirk implemented when he
was on his talking tours at college campuses that work
so well, and just he would they would come up
to the microphone and he would ask him a series
of questions and it would just completely change the course
of the conversation. Jeff Jornick, thank you so much for
being here. Being here, y'all go to pickax P I,
(14:23):
C K A X and sign up for an account today.
Thank you, appreciate you. All right, we're going to be
right back to stay with us. Welcome back to Tonight's
(19:22):
Henry K Show.
Welcome back to Tonight's Andrey Ksha. This is our two of
our Taco Tuesday edition. It just occurred to me during
the break that we are actually rolling into next week
being Thanksgiving. Hmm, and I'm already starting to hear rumblings
from the legacy media trying to caution Trumpies and Trumpers
(02:11):
to watch their tongue at the Thanksgiving table. We're going
to talk about that this hour and so much more.
If you miss any part of tonight's show, download the podcast.
Last Hour. We spend a good bit of time delving
into going to the scum that is at the bottom
of the Epstein files barrel, and that's where we find democrats,
(02:31):
not Republicans, and certainly not President Trump. If you missed
Last Hour, download the podcast. We also talked about an
program called opt which is rewarding foreigners at the expense
of Americans. So so much good stuff we got into
last Hour, and I know you're not going to want
to have missed it or this hour. Here to discuss
free speech is Jeff Dornick. He's been on The AK
(02:53):
Show quite a few times and we just love him.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Here.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
He is founder and CEO of Pickaxe, which is a
new social media platform. If you have not signed up
for an account there, do so today. And he's also
author of a book called Following the Leader. And he
joins me, now, hey, Jeff, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Hey, thanks thanks letting me back on.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Of course, I was reminded by Chris Matthews. No less,
mister Obama gives me a thrill up my leg. Remember him,
Jeff Dorning?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Oh yeah, I think he was. He was the one
that was talking about literally feeling it tingle going up
as well.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yes, yes, perfect day to be reminded of him when
we're talking about the Epstein files. In fact, before I
get into Chris Matthews him warning people because you're here
to talk about free speech, I do want to get
your take on the Epstein vote today, four hundred and
twenty seven to one. Clay Higgins was the only one
who didn't vote for it. It's just it's just another day,
(03:49):
another revelation that the Dems are always guilty of what
they accuse others of. We got Larry Summers running and hiding.
We've got Delegate Plasket being busted for her communications with Epstein.
We got Bill and Hillary refusing to comply with a subpoena.
What's your take on the story of the day around
(04:09):
the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I wish that the I wish that that there had
been this vote, and that the Trump administration in general
had moved had moved quicker and as opposed to everything
being delayed so much, especially after Pam Bondi and Cash
Mittel did that whole fiasco. Yeah, but you know, it's like,
you know, it's better, it's better late than never. Let's
let's get the information out there. And I think for me,
looking at specifically this this Epstein case, I think that
(04:34):
this is going to go deeper than even what we're
going to realize when it comes to what files will
actually get released. I think there's going to be a
lot so that's going to be you know, hidden and
covered up even still after this vote, you know. And
and to me, especially listening to Mike Johnson talking about
it as well, and to me, it's it's obvious as
an outsider looking in it, it would seem obvious that
(04:55):
that there was definitely some intelligence agencies that were working
in cahoots with Epstein, and that to me, that's probably
the big reason why the administration was trying to keep
it under reps for so long. Otherwise I can't think
of a legitimate reason why it would have taken six
months in order to be at this point. But at
least we're at this point now.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, I agree. And what I hope is now that
we're at this point, I hope President Trump gets rid
of Pam Bondy, and because she did create a fiasco
for the President with the situation with her Bindergate and
all of that, but most importantly, because she has done
nothing to really hold anybody accountable for the crimes that
they've committed, whether it was crimes in covering up for Epstein,
(05:34):
crimes involved with young women associated with activities with Epstein,
or whether it's anybody else from the FBI and the
Department of Justice who weaponized the government against Americans while
covering up the crimes of the elite. Nobody has been
held accountable, and that, to me, is the real crime,
and that needs to end. There must be accountability. I
(05:55):
know President Trump wants to put this behind us. He's
called it a hoax. The Epstein situation is not a hoax.
It's not we you know, Daniel Greenfield did a great article.
I went through some of the details last Hour. You
can read it at front Page mag where he detailed
it all the gory details of a lot of people
in the state of New Mexico who paved the way
and covered up for Jeffrey Epstein, including removing him from
(06:18):
the the the what's it called when you have to
sign up to be the to acknowledge that you're convicted
the sex offender Registry. They took him off the Sex
Offender Registry. Look, we can't get this country back to
truly being maga make America great again without people who
have worked to destroy it from within unless we have accountability.
(06:40):
That's my thoughts yours, No, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I one hundred percent agree, and I think I think
it's also one of those things. And this has been
my my frustration with the entire DOJ in general. I mean,
you've got you know, the DJ with Pam Bond, You've
got Cash to tell who I like Cash. I've had
I've had Cash on my show. I've interviewed him when
he was promoting government, gangsters and the whole deal, you know,
and the and the and the whole the whole group.
Like you know. The problem that I have is I
(07:05):
don't mind if you know there's for some reason, like
a judge isn't going to let you release documents. Okay, cool,
Just be honest with us. The American people like you
work for us. We're supposed to be a self governed society.
You're not supposed to keep secrets from us, except in
very extreme circumstances. And our federal government goes way overboard
and redacting as much as they possibly can. And I
think a lot of it is because our own government
(07:25):
is involved in things that they should not be involved in.
And I think in this case, when you're looking at
Epsteine again, allegedly I'll put that out there, but allegedly,
our own you know, intelligence agencies were involved with with
the with potentially being involved with with sex trafficking and
in it, whether directly or indirectly, enabling Jeffrey Epstein in
order to do this so that way he can blackmail
(07:45):
world leaders and politicians and things like that, so that
way our agency, our agencies can then have influence over
world affairs and who makes what decisions and all that.
Like when you actually get down to the crux of it,
if we don't hold people accountable and we don't come clean.
How are we ever going to have a legitimate government
that is not continuing to do these types of things.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Absolutely, you're right on about that. I want to switch
gears and get back into some free speech stuff because
I haven't really been aware of what's you know, we
think of the Midwest Midwest values well, I guess Indiana
University is considered to be the worst in the US
for freedom of expression in Indiana. Jeff Dornick, what's going
(08:26):
on in Indiana at this university?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'm honestly not surprised, you know, because when you think
about it, some of the worst purveyors of the most
extreme leftist ideology and worldview and censorship and the whole
deal are actually found in red states. And the thing
that we cannot forget is that just because it's a
red state does not mean that every single city is
(08:51):
a red city, and especially when you're dealing with the
education system. And I think what ends up happening is
is you look at a lot of these universities and
and you could say, the powers that be fill in
the blank, whoever that might be, they actually target their
attention more on the Red states and the Purple states,
and they do then they do the Blue States. The
Blue States, they just let it organically be leftists. I mean,
(09:12):
that's just you know, you're not surprised when you know
you've got you live out here in communists California and
uh and the university is a leftist. But it seems
like they focus a lot of their attention in these
states like Indiana and the Midwest and in the South,
and they they're at the main reason is because they
can propagandize our children. They can they can convert young kids.
(09:33):
They grew up in conservative Christian households, and by the
time they are a sophomore in college, they're a full blown,
you know, flaming leftist. And I have family members where
it's happened to that. You homeschool your kids, conservative Christian,
they go to school, they go to college, and then
all of a sudden they are a Black Lives Matter activists,
and you're like, what can that happen? It's because they
focus their attention on the youth, on the college kids.
(09:56):
They get them away from the parents, they get them
out of the churches, they get them out of their
and then they can propagandize them. And they are phenomenal
inverning at an extremely high rate.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, and you're right to point out that they're targeting
red states for this. And I've got family in red states.
I say all the time, there's no such thing as
a red state, and we need to stop saying that
because it allows people like people in my own family
who think, oh, I'm living in this state, I don't
have to worry about this going on in a school.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Well, yeah you.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Do, because that's where the left is going. That's what
they're targeting. In fact, so many conservatives when mom Donnie
was running, they were like, oh, let New York City
go Islamo Kami, without understanding that the Democrat Socialist of
America that party is picking Islamo Kami's and having a
run for local office all over the country in places
(10:47):
like red states like Georgia. So the apathy the people think,
and that's not going to happen here in my home state.
That's how these red states go COMI and turn purple
and then solidly blue.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right, no one. And it's really interesting because you know,
I just had on doctor Mary, Kelly Boden and Rachel
Alexander on my show this morning, and you know, Rachel
is from Arizona and doctor Boden is from Texas and
they were talking about law there, and they're both from
traditionally red states, although Arizona has become much more purple
over the last several years, and Texas has this charcacter
(11:19):
of being read even though it's much more purple. And
in both of those instances, you have you know, medical
boards and state of bar associations and things like that
that are extreme leftists that are weaponized against conservatives and
free speech activists and people that are just telling the
truth and they weaponize it against these and predominantly conservative people.
(11:40):
And this is happening in allegedly red states like Texas
and Arizona, and this is this is one of those
things where we have to be careful that just because
a state typically will vote more Republican does not mean
that it's actually holding conservative values when you're coming to
the leadership of that state.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Absolutely, And it's also reminder that we need to get active.
So many conservatives and Christians think, well, their level of
activity only involves voting, and that's only when it's a
presidential race. But we need to get active, and we
need to do it at the local level, speaking of
at the local level. I got to get your take
on Chris Matthews mister tingle up his leg because he's
(12:20):
already setting the stage to try to tell Trumpers that
they need to keep their mouth shut on Thanksgiving. And so,
since you're all about free speech with your new social
media company, Pickax, I want to play this clip for
you and get your take on it, and get your
take on what advice you would give to people going
into the holiday season.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think the important message is the division coming up
at our own Thanksgiving tables. I think that there will
be a lot of families where some people go into
the room, the dinner table when they go I better
not say certain things. Better not say something things because
it's going to offend certain people.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The Trumpies.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Your reaction, yeah, I mean, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
My thing is that maybe it's just you know, I
live out here in communist California, so I'm surrounded by lefties.
I always want to have conversations. But what I think
the thing is that I think a lot of people
are afraid on both sides of the isle that they're
going to go into you know, their their Thanksgiving dinner
and they're going to have a big blow up fight
over politics. And the thing is is that, you know,
I think it's important that, especially as we get together
(13:22):
with family, especially people that we disagree with, that number one,
we're coming together because we love each other, but number two,
that we don't shy away from important conversations that we
need to be having as a society, as a family,
as a culture, because you have, we have conflicting world views.
But the thing is that that go into it, engage
in those conversations. But the thing that I've learned is
that is that you know, when I'm having conversations with
(13:44):
people on the left, fit friends, family, the whole deal,
I ask pointed questions and then shut up and I listen,
and I listen to them rationalize, and if you ask
the right questions, you can guide the conversation in a
way that, interestingly, you will realize that your lefty friends
are actually a lot more conservative when you when you
actually push them.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Out of It's interesting you should say that because that's
kind of the tactic that Charlie Kirk implemented when he
was on his talking tours at college campuses that work
so well, and just he would they would come up
to the microphone and he would ask him a series
of questions and it would just completely change the course
of the conversation. Jeff Jornick, thank you so much for
being here. Being here, y'all go to pickax P I,
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C K A X and sign up for an account today.
Thank you, appreciate you. All right, we're going to be
right back to stay with us. Welcome back to Tonight's
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Henry K Show.
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