January 8, 2026 • 29 mins
Today’s episode is directed specifically at young men ages 18–30, and it covers one of the most destructive and overlooked addictions right now: sports gambling...
With betting apps, prop bets, and “risk-free” offers everywhere, gambling has become a casino in your pocket. In this solo episode, Jimmy breaks down why sports gambling is uniquely dangerous for young men, how it rewires dopamine, why most gamblers lose long-term, and how this addiction quietly destroys finances, focus, relationships, and mental health.
Jimmy shares real stories, real numbers, and personal experiences to explain why this vice is being normalized, how it traps people into chasing losses, and why it has one of the highest relapse and suicide rates of any addiction.
This episode isn’t about judgment. It’s about protecting your future, building discipline, and choosing long-term freedom over short-term dopamine. If you’re a young man, or you know one who’s caught in this cycle, this episode is worth listening to and sharing.
Watch on YouTube:
youtube.com/@mrjimmyrex
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With betting apps, prop bets, and “risk-free” offers everywhere, gambling has become a casino in your pocket. In this solo episode, Jimmy breaks down why sports gambling is uniquely dangerous for young men, how it rewires dopamine, why most gamblers lose long-term, and how this addiction quietly destroys finances, focus, relationships, and mental health.
Jimmy shares real stories, real numbers, and personal experiences to explain why this vice is being normalized, how it traps people into chasing losses, and why it has one of the highest relapse and suicide rates of any addiction.
This episode isn’t about judgment. It’s about protecting your future, building discipline, and choosing long-term freedom over short-term dopamine. If you’re a young man, or you know one who’s caught in this cycle, this episode is worth listening to and sharing.
Watch on YouTube:
youtube.com/@mrjimmyrex
Follow Jimmy on Instagram:
instagram.com/mrjimmyrex
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hell, and welcome to another episode of the Jimmy Rex Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today on the podcast It's Just Me, we're going to
be doing one of my Real Man, Real Conversations episodes,
and today I want to talk about this is something
for the eighteen to thirty year olds. I really want
to get into this. I'm going to talk to the
young men. We're going to talk about gambling, sports gambling specifically,
and right now you got all these sites, you know,
Calshi and Polymarket, and then you've got all the sports
betting sites.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's a pretty dangerous game.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And I'm going to talk about why it's the most
destructive thing I think for eighteen to thirty four thirty
year old men right now, because there's just again, they've
have a lot of things, you know, that is coming
at them. Everybody's trying to steal their attention, their money,
their time, their value. But this is one that's really
destructive and I'm gonna explain why. So let's get to
the podcast. What's up, guys. I'm going to talk about
a serious issue. Today might not seem like the most
(00:44):
serious issue, and you know, we're starting the new year,
there's plenty of things we could be talking about. But
this is something That's been on my mind for a
while now, so I've kind of been doing some research
and really seeing just how destructive this is.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And that's sports gambling.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
The reason why it's so dangerous too, is because it's
targeted directly to eighteen to thirty year olds, and these
are the the people that Lee should be putting money
on sports. And we can go into why they're doing it,
but ultimate I want to talk about this and as
a you know, Cleveland Indians fan, everybody knows that this
is how crazy this is. There's a couple guys on
our team this year, Emmanuel Class being one of them.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
He was literally the runner up for.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
The Cy Young last year, and he got suspended for
the year for basically rigging some of these bets that
were going on.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
And back in the day, you know, you got like.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
The shoeless Joe Jackson story, or you got the occasional
point shaving scheme or whatever else, and it affected outcomes
of games, right, is why Pete Rose was banned from baseball.
But the problem they have today is they have all
these prop bets. You can literally bet on anything, So
like these Indians pitchers were literally just make taking large
bets that the first pitch at the inning was going
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to be a ball, and so the pitcher would spike
one in the dirt and then his buddy would win
ten fifty twenty thousand dollars whatever it was. This picture
was in line to make a nine figure contract for
his next deal. He was making eight million dollars a year,
and now he's probably banned for life from baseball. They
still haven't really come out with a total verdict. They're
still kind of doing some research, but it's very clear
(02:07):
this dude was spiking these balls at the exact same
time that somebody was placing these large bets. And there's
actually two guys on the Indians that got busted for it,
and so we're going to see more and more in this.
It's but really the problem is is I want you
to I want to give you some stats. In twenty seventeen,
there was five billion dollars bet on sports a lot.
In twenty twenty four, last year, they're sorry, two years
ago now there was one hundred and twenty billion dollars
(02:30):
bet on sports. That number is going up all the time.
The reason why is convenience. Right ninety four percent of
these bets are being done from our phones. It's very tempting,
you know. It was funny.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I was sitting with somebodies the other day.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
We were watching a football game, and James Madison's playing
organ that night, and I have zero interest in watching
this game Oregon, where everyone knew Or was going to
beat him by a couple touchdowns. But the spread was
twenty four and a half. And that's where it gets tricky.
People want to bet that because they go, well, I
don't really care to watch. But if I put a
thousand dollars on Oregon to cover twenty four and a
half points, then all of a sudden, it gives me
(03:01):
something to cheer for. Right, Or I put a couple
hundred bucks on James Madison, all of a sudden, it
gives me something to cheer for. So before the game started,
it was funny. I was sitting there with my buddies,
the three of my buddies, and I told him, I said,
you guys, I should have bet my house on Oregon.
I can't believe the spread is twenty four and a half.
I literally should have bet my house. Well, it's thirty
one to three at halftime, Okay, they've already covered the
spread by halftime. I'm sitting there and I'm like, this
(03:23):
was free money. I can't believe I didn't bet it.
And this is why, by the way, I don't keep
money in these accounts because I know better. But even then,
and even as I've been studies, even as I know
how this goes, I'm like convincing myself, I'm an idiot
for not betting this game that looks like it's gonna
end up sixty to three.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And wouldn't you know it, in the second.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Half, Oregon completely takes the foot off the pedal, puts
all their backups in, James Madison scores a couple of touchdowns.
At the end of the game, James Madison ends up
losing by like seventeen, easily covers the spread. I would
have lost everything, and I just laughed.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
My buddies. We were laughing our head off because I
was like, dude, I.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Should have bet my house on this, and I kind
of meant it, but obviously I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But this is why it's so addicting.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Like how much more fun is it to watch a
game like, you know, George is playing old Miss right
in the Cult Football Playoff this last weekend. I could
care less who wins, but if I put a little
bit of money on old miss, oh my gosh, how
fun would that be? And I used to do this
back in college. I had a buddy who had as
like a little bookie. I remember this one time. His
name was Travis, and it was the BYU San Diego
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State game and I think the spread was BYU was
favored by five points and the end of the game,
San Diego State led the whole game. So this dude
had bet and this was when we were like twenty
three twenty four, so pretty young, and it was a
lot of money for him.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
At the time.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
But he'd bet like a thousand or two thousand bucks
that San Diego State was going to cover and Santago
State is winning. Not only are they going to cover, well,
it comes down to the last play again, BOU goes
on a run. I think they were down by like
eleven with like two minutes left to go on a run,
and wouldn't you know it, BYU ends up sending this
game to overtime. By the way, if BAU had won
by one or two or three or four, even this
dude still wins his bet, right, Bou makes this crazy
(04:55):
come back to the last two minutes ties, the game
sends its overtime, and then in overtime, bo You goes
I'm a heater and ends up winning by like nine
or ten points. And the only way this guy, I mean,
he literally was up if you include this bread sixteen
points with like two minutes left.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Goes over time and ends up losing the bet.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And I remember, it's just he sat there in the
arena when we were done for probably like three hours straight.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
He couldn't move.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He was so devastated by this beat right by getting
beat on this. And this is the problem, guys, is,
especially as gamblers, you want to start chasing it, right,
Like when you lose money, you want to get the
next one. You want to get the next one. This
is where people really get in trouble. And it doesn't
seem like it. I mean, I'm forty four now, and
I was talking to somebody recently about this. They were,
you know, talking about I put a post up on
(05:36):
my Instagram that it's a waste of money to use
door dash and uber eats, and a couple of people
were like coming at me they were like, well, do
you don't know how it is like I, you know,
like when you're sick or you're just tired, or I'm
working on other things. And I try to tell him,
is like, so from the time I was twenty one,
twenty two years old to today, the stock market has
eight xd which means every dollar that I would have
put into the stock market when I was twenty two
(05:57):
years old would be worth eight times at today. And
you really need to start thinking about it that way, like,
because it's not like, you know, our currency is gonna
end up not having inflation anytime soon. And so if
you don't want to get way behind in life, these
young people that are wasting money on door dash and
uber ates and these things and then gambling, and they're
doing it thinking, oh, it's just one hundred bucks, it's
(06:17):
just fifty bucks or whatever. But that fifty bucks one
hundred bucks if would actually put it into an investment
twenty years from now, and it catches up quicker than
you think. Guys, like I said, I'm forty four now
and here we are. But every dollar you spend today
is like in these gambles, is money that could have
really gone towards the future for you. And the other
problem with gambling is everybody knows somebody that's made a
bunch of money, right Like I play in this gambling
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thing every single week. It's fake, but you have basically
they give you ten games that you bet against the
spread every week. There's I think fifty of us in
this league. We all pay a couple hundred bucks to
join it at the beginning, and then the winner, you know,
gets a bunch of It's like a fantasy league kind
of thing. But you bet ten games against the spread
and you put you know, you label them one to
ten on the value on each game to have. And
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the reason I'm mentioning this, I actually.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Did really good this year.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I took six plays out of fifty guys. Of the
fifty of us, only I think thirteen people were in
the positive as far as they had made more bets
that they won than they lost. Okay, I think I
did over two hundred games total, and I think I
was positive thirteen games, and I was.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
In sixth place.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
To give you an idea, well, one of the weeks
I happened to go ten and zero. I just had
this crazy week. I won the weekly prize. That week,
I literally hit all ten of my games against the spread.
And you see something like this and you're like, dude,
if I would have parlayed that, basically every dollar I
would have put on a parlay of that would be
worth about four thousand dollars. To give you some idea
of how hard it is to hit all ten games.
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Keep in mind, if you take out that week, I
was basically five hundred the rest of the season. But
the point of that is is you only hear when
people win, so you hear your buddy win and money
you see people Every gambler only tells you their wins like.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I've literally had. There was a dude here locally.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He was actually a member of my men's group years ago,
and he ran a little booky thing. And this was
before he was in my group, but I remember talking
to him on the golf course one time.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
He was like, dude, you're crazy, that's like. And he
was taking big bets like.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
This dude had his own company, He had a couple
million that he had set aside. He was taking ginormous
bets and just taking bets from all sorts of random people. Anyway,
long story short, you know, I watched this dude's whole
life kind of fall apart as he got sucked into this.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And what happens is is you.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Start thinking you're smarter than everybody else. You start thinking
you knows, But these bets are there's a reason they
to allure you onto the sites in the first place.
They do all these risk free bets, free parlays, free
two hundred dollars bets.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
You've probably seen all this. This is how they suck
you in because.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
There's something about inside of us, like once you start
betting on games, you just want to bet on every game.
It's this ultimate dopamine hit, right, and it's deadly again.
It's you got the mix of sports and making money.
These are like the two things that every kid has
told that he should be doing, making money and like
being into sports. So when you mix them together, it
really is this dopamine hit that's very hard to get
anywhere else. And it feels like you're almost like you're investing, right,
(08:56):
Like crypto's a little bit this way, so you kind
of like disguise it that way, like, oh, I'm just
this is my you know, this is my investing, But
really what it is is every single time you're doing this,
you're getting a dopamine hit that's based on something that's
going to get you wanting to come.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Back for more and more.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And the worst part now is you got these apps
that are all over the place. There's literally hundreds of
millions of young men around the world that are on
these apps. That's who they're targeting, influencers all the time
getting on there, right, and they always talk about all
the upside.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Nobody talks about the losses.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I have had so many friends that have gotten into
sports gambling or sports betting. Not a single one of them,
not a single one of them, was still doing it
two years later. They were all out of money because
eventually the house catches up. It's just it's designed to
do that. And the reason why I want to speak
out on this, this is where it really gets dangerous,
is gambling actually has the highest suicide attempt of.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Any addiction, gambling above everything else.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Twenty percent of gambling addicts actually end up trying to
commit suicide at some point in their life. Also, it's
the highest of all the addictions for relapse. Ninety percent
of people end up gambling again when they say they're
going to quit.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Since they've started legalizing betting all over the country, bankruptcies
in general in the country are up almost ten percent,
which is just crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's like a direct correlation.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
The grafts matchup equally and again, like young people right now,
I feel back from like they don't have savings. You know,
it hurts their employment opportunities, it hurts their credit scores.
They're not putting money away into savings. Like guys, getting
rich is a boring game. It's a slow, boring game
where over time you just keep doing the same things.
Eventually you have money. But that's just not what's happening.
(10:31):
So the reality is right now, you guys just eighteen
year olds, thirty year olds that agents.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You guys have a lot of things going against you.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
You know, you've got we legalized now that just slows
you down and makes you lazy. You got you know,
unlimited porn in your on your phone, and these things
that are like really just degenerate type things that feel normal.
I mean, the amount of people that are on OnlyFans
is I think it's like two million people in the
United States have an only Fans account, which is crazy, Like,
get off of that if you haven't only fans account
(11:00):
like deleted immediately, Like it's not even about doing something
that's like going to waste your time or just even
like you know, the idea of just sexualizing and objectifying women.
More than anything, it's what it does to your confidence
that you're a part of that, that you're paying to
see another woman naked or be sexy on this you
know paywall, And it's just it's something about your confidence,
(11:23):
which affects your energy, which affects you in the real life.
And so but then the third thing is you got
this casino in your pocket. You literally can any time
pull up a game. I remember one year I bet
at the Super Bowl, and I would always just do
these stupid lil prop bets, like thankfully I had a
website and I would put a thousand dollars on it
once a year, and when it was gone, it was gone.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
And that was the way that I managed this.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And by the way, like if you can't just go
cold turkey or you don't want to hear like I
just love sports betting, like you need to get some
really solid boundaries and rules around That's what I did,
Like I said, I would put a thousand dollars in
the account, and when it was gone, it was gone.
And I would never place bets for anybody else because
people would hear that I had, you know, fifty bucks
on the game or a hundred bucks on game.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And I also, by the way, I had the money
to be doing.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
This like, which is an important piece in this But
at the end of the day, it was literally for me,
it was one thousand.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Dollars to be entertained until that money was gone. And
I looked at it that way.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
When I go gambling in the casino, I've actually never
lost more than four hundred dollars in a day in
a casino, which is a crazy low amount all things considered,
for how much I've gambled. And the reason why is
because of the approach that I take. And you have
to have a strategy on these things. So I literally go, Okay,
it's gonna cost me four hundred dollars tonight to go
to the casino and have fun. And if I don't
lose my money, great, but then you're not chasing your losses.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
At any point I get up and walk away.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I've walked away up seventy dollars feeling like I'm the
richest guy in the world just because I didn't lose
my money in the casino.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Right, you can have just as much fun.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I remember one time one of my buddies like, more gambling,
more money is not more fun, it's more stress. My
buddy we went down to Vegas one time and he
was a big poker player. So he wanted to go
sit with the big boys in Vegas and play. So
he brought I think it was about twenty thousand dollars,
which it was a lot of money when this happened.
It's seen a lot of money now, but I mean
this was like two three months to this guy's payments
(13:01):
of how much money he would make basically.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And I remember that night we all go to go
to dinner.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He's like, I'm gonna keep playing poker, and then we
go out and he's like, I'm gonna keep playing poker.
And that night we go to our room and he's like,
still playing poker. The guy just played all day, and
eventually about seven in the morning, I go down just
to check on him and see where he's at. And
I'm checking like the pool first, I'm checking like the restaurants.
I'm thinking there's no way he's still playing poker. And
then I go to the poker table and there he is,
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and he lost. I watched him lose about I think
he lost like eighteen thousand dollars that weekend, and there
wasn't a single thing fun about. I watched for about
an hour and a half before it was all gone,
and there was nothing fun about it. It was pure stress.
The dude was just miserable to be around the rest
of the trip. And I saw firsthand, like how excited
this guy was to do this, and he still plays
(13:47):
all the time. To give you an idea, so again,
it looks like it's harmless, it looks fun, it looks like,
you know, you think that it's skill based, you think
you can beat the house. Like I said, it's also
something that's people love to talk about.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
It's socially accepted. Of all the advices, it's definitely the.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Most accepted socially, And I think that's a real negative
as well, because nobody's like, oh my gosh, I got gambles,
like the piece of shit, you know. But like it's
not like using drugs or just being a degenerate in
some other activities.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
It feels cool.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I remember like super Bowls where I'll take all these
little prop bits, Like I said, it was always part
of a plan for me. And by the way, if
you want to bet on the super Bowl, do it,
but like, don't bet money that you need to win.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Here's the best way I can say it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
If it's going to affect your emotions, if it's going
to affect your mood, if you lose, you've bet too
much money, right, If it's going to affect you good
or bad, Like if you make two hundred dollars, great,
if you lose two hundred dollars great, if that's you know,
part of like your budget. But if it's going to
literally affect how the rest of your night goes, you
should not be betting that amount of money on that game.
That's kind of the best way that I can say it.
(14:47):
It's interesting, you know, it's a lot of people that
are gambling.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
They're afraid to talk about it. They don't want to
admit it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
They sound stupid because it's more skill based. They think
it makes them look stupid or dumb, so they don't
share about it very often. So a lot of time
when people are losing everything, they do it in silence.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I remember one time I used to take dates out.
We would go out this place called Windo Over.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's about an hour and a half from Salt Lake,
and it's across the border, so you can legally gamble.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It's kind of fun. It's just like these ghetto.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Hotel casinos and take a date out there and have
a fun night out of it. And I remember one
time I was out there and I ran into a
buddy that I'd known a couple of years earlier, and
he had a.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Giant ziplock bag with him.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
He's sitting at the blackjack tables in Windover and this
dude made about one hundred and thirty thousand year. I
actually know the whole story now because we've become closer
to friends over the last.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Few years, and we talked about it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
But this dude was gambling a couple hundred bucks, he lost,
pull out some more couple hundred bucks. Next thing I know,
this entire stack is gone and he runs to his
car and gets more money and found out later he
lost like eight or nine thousand dollars that night. And
his dude was making about one hundred and thirty thousand
a year, and he just had this addiction.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
He couldn't stop it. He was chasing it. He was chasing,
he was chasing it. So it's something I'm worried about.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Something I think if you're a young man, like one
of the big goals you could have for twenty twenty
six is that you don't gamble on sports anymore, right, Like,
don't do it on your phone if you want, if
you're the occasional time where you end up in a
casino or you know, you're down in Vegas and you
want to put some money on some games or something.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Sure like at the beginning of.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Every like baseball season, our foot college football put one
hundred dollars on a team and gives me a team
to cheer for, something like that, like eight to one
odds to win it, you know, fifteen to one odds
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Those are fun ways to still be able to gamble.
But you're not.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Again, you're just not emotionally committed to this. It's not
going to change your life if you win or lose.
Okay for me, you know, it's funny. I growing up
Mormon in Utah, we were always end up down in
Vegas too, and I always wanted to gamble. It's very
like frowned upon in the Mormon religion, right, but like
also not like nobody would.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's not one of the things that would keep you
out of like being able.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
To take the sacrament or going to the temple, the
things that you kind of get chastised for. I don't
think anybody, well as far as I know, has ever
had to sit that out because they had a gambling addiction.
But I remember I just wanted to gamble one again.
Remember when I turned twenty one, I was so excited
to go gamble for the first time. And I remember
a couple of years after I was I would probably gamble,
you know. I was up or down a couple hundred
(17:09):
bucks over a couple of years. And then one year
BYU was playing Tulsa and Max Hall was our quarterback,
Dylan Caley was our receiver, Dennis Pitty. We had this
team that was loaded. We're playing Tulsa. Who the Hell's Tulsa? Right,
And and in the same week Utah was playing Ucla.
But Ucla had a new quarterback who just got back
from his mission. He was a five star guy that
almost went to bou His name is Benelson, So I
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just remember, like I knew Ben Olsen was going to
destroy Utah, and I knew Byu was going to destroy Tulsa,
and so I set up this account. It was like
twenty eleven or something. I set up this account online
and I put one thousand dollars on each game. This
is like the first time I'd ever done this, okay,
and I'm like, okay, these are shoe wins. Well, me
and my brother were actually going to the Bou Toulsa game.
So we fly into Tulsa. Man, it was like two
(17:51):
thousand and nine. I don't know, because I remember it
was still recovering from the housing bottom and it just
place was like a ghost town. But we start this game,
oh in Utah played earlier in the day, and Utah's
defensive line just came to play. They sacked that dude
like eight times, picked him off like three times. They
destroyed you. So so I've already lost that thousand dollars.
I'm like, wow, I did not see that coming. The
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dude ended up being a total bust as a quarterback.
It's kind of funny. But I still got the Tulsa
game to get my money back, and so I go
to the Bou Tulsa game, and oh my gosh, they
had it was like the air raid attack. It was
the dude that ended up literally like creating that offense.
I think they scored like sixty points on BYU that night.
The whole game, we're down by a touchdown. We were
really good too, Boyu was, but we ended up losing
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and I.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Lost that money. And this was it was two thousand
and one because I did not have the money to lose.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I remember it hurting so bad, like I needed that
money and instead I just lost two thousand dollars. I
remember looking at my account. I probably was a third
of the money I had to my name at that point.
And I just couldn't believe I bet on these two games.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And you know, it.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Was just like they were such obvious bets to me.
They were so obviously.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Going to win.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It was kind of like that James Madison game the
other day, Like that game was thirty one to three
at halftime, and the game changes in the second half,
I would have lost all my money, would have lost
my house. And so the point is, guys, is like
you're going to lose if you play this game. I
know this sounds like a stupid thing to like be
really concerned about it the podcast, But I really want
to speak to the eighteen to.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Thirty year olds this year. You know, there's so many
things going against you.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Like I said, you have a casino in your pocket,
and you have all these people touting all their bets
and you know, like even the Indians, that was so
funny when they were like sharing the story on ESPN
about these dudes like rigging games and spiking the ball
for gambling. A gambling side is rolling across the bottom
of the screen. You know, every single stadium in America.
Now you see these gambling sites. They're pouring so much
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money into the marketing because they're really trying to capture
that eighteen to thirty year old and we see the
same thing happening, you know, trying to outsource all these
different things, and they're trying to get your money.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
They're trying to take it from you.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And I promise you, like if you put it into
the stock market or put it into account where you
can eventually buy real estate, like you can get rich
really really almost guaranteed you're going to eventually make money
if you live it in their line long enough but
when you put it into these gambling sites, it's almost
a guarantee you're going to lose your money. And so
I'm just grit for me. I never thankful. I never
had any huge losses. I have a family member that
he used to live in Las Vegas. I remember one
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time he told me the story. This was the last
time he ever gambled. He took his entire paycheck after
he got off work, went and cashed it, went to
the casino, lost all of it. He was a newlywed,
and he had to go home and tell his wife
that he'd lost his entire paycheck, and he said that
that was the day that he just retired from gambling.
Props to him. I don't think he's ever gambled again since.
But that's the reality of it, that's what it looks like.
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And there's this thing called chasing your bad losses, you know,
where anytime you lose money, and here's the other thing,
you do these parlays and you'll hit fourhead of five
and you're like, I was so close. I was so close.
It feels like you're right there, but it's just not
the way it is. You don't ever catch up. You
just get further and further behind. So I want you
guys to understand a couple things. Though, you're not weak
if you have a gambling problem, right, Like, this is
something that has been engineered to work against you.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
This is strong.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
This is something that if you're unaware of this, like
it's it's designed to beat you.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Down, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And again, they're just going to keep getting more difficult
to not do this, Like, it's gonna get to the
point where think about this with all these dopamine spikes.
With gambling, here's one of the things you don't think
about all of a sudden. If you're not gambling on
a game, you're completely bored. This is a really good
sign that you have a gambling addiction. If you're watching
a game on you're bored because you don't have any
money on it. You've lost the ability to enjoy a
game just for the sake of enjoying. That's because you
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keep dumping this false doping. It's why you know, Like
cocaine's so dangerous because it literally resets your dopamine sceptors
in your head, and so you can't get the same
enjoyment out of doing things that you used to give
you joy and so like little things are simple things
that you would enjoy before no longer work because you've
reset all your you know, receptors in your head and
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the dopamine spike isn't coming. This is how you really
destroy your life. This is why druggies end up getting
into worse and worst place. The same thing happens with
gambling and everything else. So here's the best way you can,
you know, break this. If you feel like you have
a gambling prompt today, like number one is, talk to
somebody about it. You got to break the silence. You
got to break the secrecy if you're doing this. If
you have some apps to eat them, get them off
your phone, block them.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
One of the best things I ever did was funny.
I put some money into an e trade account when
I was like twenty three or twenty four. It was
right when Facebook had iPod and I bought a bunch
of Facebook stock.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Actually, and I.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Had Amazon, Zillow, and Taco Bell. These were the four
stocks i'd put I had about eight thousand dollars. I
put it into an e trade account. I forgot my password.
I forgot that I didn't check into this account for
like six years. I'm not even joking, and all of
these stocks and talk about them not really, but the
other three had gone crazy. And when I opened my
account back up, I pulled up my my thing. It
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was literally I forgot I had money. There was like
sixty thousand dollars, this crazy amount of money. That was
the first time I started going, oh, I think I
need to look a little bit deeper at this stock
market thing, right. But the point is like, if you don't,
if I would have had that app on my phone,
if I'd have been checking it all the time, I
would have for sure cash that money out multiple times.
And so sometimes the best thing you can do not
have these apps on your phone, not have gambling sites
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on your phone.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Really just like put blockers on it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
You got to make as much friction as you can
tell your to block these accounts, like don't accept money
from any kind of gambling sites. You know, you can
specifically put that on your credit card. And then you
got to do something to replace what you've been doing
to get the dopamine hit. So, you know, hanging out
with friends, lifting is a good one, you know, sawnic
cold plunge, some of these things that guys are doing
to be a little bit more productive. Also business like
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making money the real way cells like go into sales.
Like the same dopamine spy you get from hitting a game,
you get for making big sell. I know it because
that's what I did my entire life. You know, take
some real risks in life, go do some adventures, go travel,
go to some of these other things, and try to reset.
There's a thing called the hedonic treadmill. When you've been
doing this too long, like you need a higher and
higher high. It chases this thing before you get the
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dopamine spike, but it resets pretty easily too. And one
of the way you can ways you can reset it
is by going the opposite direction, like purposefully allowing yourself
to be bored. This is where meditation and prayer and
just sitting in silence and doing some of these things
comes into play. So look at the end of the day,
like do you really want to let these multi billion
dollar companies weaponize against you and beat you? Because that's
(24:03):
what's happening, Like they're beating your ass, right, it's social media,
but it's also affecting your bank account. You're choosing to
sacrifice your future or what you want just to chase
the dopamine eye because eventually the profits are not going
to be there. I honestly don't know a single person
that's like gone full time into like sports betting or
gambling that's still.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Doing it two years later. I've had several buddies four
or five that have tried.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And they tell you their first month they made forty grand,
and the second month they made ninety grand, and they're
so excited, and then next thing, you know, and they
always just like talk about it like it happened by accident, like, oh, dude,
you're not gonna believe what happened. I know I will
believe what happened because it's sports, and it happens all
the time. Like you can't predict outcomes of games every time.
Go look at the smartest people in the world have
no clue when it comes to sports. They talk about
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all these games. I mean, look at the game that
I just watched the other day was Alabama Indiana. I
think four of the five experts before the game had
picked Alabama. Indiana beat him like thirty seven to seven
or something. It was just a crazy score. And so
the point is, like we don't know, and there's no
way to get an edge on the house like with legally,
at least without risking going to prison forgetting insider information.
So ultimately, guys, you know, the number one addiction right
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now going on in America for young men your age,
it's it's not drugs. It's not alcohol, you're actually quitting alcohol.
It's it's gambling. It's sports gambling. And it's the number
one thing that's destroying lives right there with porn and weed,
only fans these different things. Again, I think that you know,
they've been able to weaponize your phone to make it
a casino. You can bet on every game. You can
bet on almost every play on every game. That's crazy.
(25:30):
And you know I get the temptation because I've done it.
I told you some of these stories so that you
know I'm not trying to tell you like I'm better
than this or I'm better than you.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I'm just telling you I get it.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I've done these things, and thankfully in twenty eleven before
I understood the dangers of doing this when I bet
on that Tulsa game. Thankfully, at that time I didn't
have an app that I could just go on my
phone and try to chase my loss and get it back.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It was so inconvenient.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I think I had to go to my bank and
like wire money to get like money into this account.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
That's how I had to bet it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And so the point is is, like, you know, thankfully
there was another resistance, and give yourself that resistance, Like
it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You know you keep hearing all the ads. It's like
risk free and everything else, you know, celebrity endorsements. If
this thing was risk free, they wouldn't be doing it.
If they were really giving them for way free money,
they couldn't be able to do it. They just are
trying to hook you in. They're trying to get you
that dopamine high so you can feel it.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I've bet on an LSU Alabama game simply because I
was bored and that was the only game on that night.
I think I had a date cancel on me, and
I was like, I just want to be entertained. And
I threw four hundred bucks on LSU. I even won,
but it was stupid. It was like not a good
way to spend my time, right, if nothing else, I
wasted four hours and I was glued to the TV
for this stupid ass game. I'm just saying, there's plenty
of ways that you can get rich in life, and
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gambling is never going to be one of them. So
if you're a young guy again, I care about you, guys.
I want you guys to get ahead. There's so many
people working against you, so many influencers even that are
you know, I just saw that kid that exposed that
whole thing in Minnesota with the Somali people. Next thing,
I know, the second time it shows him on the TV,
he's wearing a poly market shirt. Like, by the way, guys,
those are gambling. It's polymarket and Calshier or whatever the
(27:02):
hell it's called. Do not go on those either. Like
if you're betting on what a guy's gonna see in
his speech or who's gonna be the next present, you
have a gambling addiction, like go watch some of these
gambling movies. It doesn't work out well for these people.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Okay. From Indecent Proposal, the dude's gambling.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
The next thing he knows, he's let his wife sleep
with another man for a million dollars. You've got the
honeymoon to Vegas. The dude ends up getting losing everything.
I think he loses his wife gambling as well. Like
they really know how to hit you with that one.
I guess Casino. Go watch a few of these movies. Okay, Rounders,
Like it doesn't work out. Rounders is a bad example
because he wins the last one. But my point is
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he gets his ass Kicktoms gets killed by a bunch
of guys for a gambling It's true, like you're just
when you're in the gambling world, they're seedy people, They're
sketchy people. Like go watch some of these documentaries. Are
these guys that were shaving points? They were around the
shadiest people. These are not the kind of people you
want to be around. That referee from the NBA, Tim Donogh,
You go watch that documentary like these you have to
be around really bad people. You never know what those
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people are gonna do. So anyways, if you're watching this,
I just this matters. It's important. There's a conversation we
need to be having. Reach out to me. Would love
to help anybody that you know wants some more help
with this. Like I have a men's group. We help
men with addictions, whether it be porn, weed, gambling.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Whatever it is, this is what we do.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We help give support to each other so that you
know the thing that we all think makes us unlovable.
Maybe you are broke, maybe you've lost tens of thousands
of dollars gambling. Whatever it might be, it's actually your
superpower because it allows other people to connect with you.
But don't suffer in silence, guys, and definitely let's break
this addiction. If this is plaint a part in your life,
it's too fun to watch against. By the way, damn
you and Manuel class A, because the Indians ended up
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making a run this year. We made the playoffs and
if we would have had our other two pitchers, we
damn well could have done something good. And so I'm
still mad at that guy all for a stupid gambling.
The guy was making like nine million a year. He
was set to make twenty five to thirty million a year,
literally and he got busted gambling less than one hundred
thousand dollars. That's like so stupid, And that's actually a
really good way to end this. Like, think about that
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for this guy, it had nothing to do with the money.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It couldn't have.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
There wasn't enough money there to win but he had
an addiction to it. It was giving him a dopamine
hit that he couldn't get either way. He was rigging
this baseball game, making money on the side, probably looking
cool to his buddies, and because of that he lost everything.
Now he's going to be, you know, out of the
game of baseball.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So hopefully this is helpful. You guys a game. My
name is Jimmy Rex.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Hit me up mister Jimmy Rex on Instagram and share
this with somebody you know that maybe could listen to it,
somebody out there that's gamb won a little bit too
much or caring a little bit too much about who
wins that Tennessee Mississippi state game, you know, that.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Random game on a Thursday night. So much love everybody, Bye,
Hell, and welcome to another episode of the Jimmy Rex Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today on the podcast It's Just Me, we're going to
be doing one of my Real Man, Real Conversations episodes,
and today I want to talk about this is something
for the eighteen to thirty year olds. I really want
to get into this. I'm going to talk to the
young men. We're going to talk about gambling, sports gambling specifically,
and right now you got all these sites, you know,
Calshi and Polymarket, and then you've got all the sports
betting sites.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's a pretty dangerous game.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And I'm going to talk about why it's the most
destructive thing I think for eighteen to thirty four thirty
year old men right now, because there's just again, they've
have a lot of things, you know, that is coming
at them. Everybody's trying to steal their attention, their money,
their time, their value. But this is one that's really
destructive and I'm gonna explain why. So let's get to
the podcast. What's up, guys. I'm going to talk about
a serious issue. Today might not seem like the most
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serious issue, and you know, we're starting the new year,
there's plenty of things we could be talking about. But
this is something That's been on my mind for a
while now, so I've kind of been doing some research
and really seeing just how destructive this is.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And that's sports gambling.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
The reason why it's so dangerous too, is because it's
targeted directly to eighteen to thirty year olds, and these
are the the people that Lee should be putting money
on sports. And we can go into why they're doing it,
but ultimate I want to talk about this and as
a you know, Cleveland Indians fan, everybody knows that this
is how crazy this is. There's a couple guys on
our team this year, Emmanuel Class being one of them.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
He was literally the runner up for.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
The Cy Young last year, and he got suspended for
the year for basically rigging some of these bets that
were going on.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
And back in the day, you know, you got like.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
The shoeless Joe Jackson story, or you got the occasional
point shaving scheme or whatever else, and it affected outcomes
of games, right, is why Pete Rose was banned from baseball.
But the problem they have today is they have all
these prop bets. You can literally bet on anything, So
like these Indians pitchers were literally just make taking large
bets that the first pitch at the inning was going
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to be a ball, and so the pitcher would spike
one in the dirt and then his buddy would win
ten fifty twenty thousand dollars whatever it was. This picture
was in line to make a nine figure contract for
his next deal. He was making eight million dollars a year,
and now he's probably banned for life from baseball. They
still haven't really come out with a total verdict. They're
still kind of doing some research, but it's very clear
(02:07):
this dude was spiking these balls at the exact same
time that somebody was placing these large bets. And there's
actually two guys on the Indians that got busted for it,
and so we're going to see more and more in this.
It's but really the problem is is I want you
to I want to give you some stats. In twenty seventeen,
there was five billion dollars bet on sports a lot.
In twenty twenty four, last year, they're sorry, two years
ago now there was one hundred and twenty billion dollars
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bet on sports. That number is going up all the time.
The reason why is convenience. Right ninety four percent of
these bets are being done from our phones. It's very tempting,
you know. It was funny.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I was sitting with somebodies the other day.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
We were watching a football game, and James Madison's playing
organ that night, and I have zero interest in watching
this game Oregon, where everyone knew Or was going to
beat him by a couple touchdowns. But the spread was
twenty four and a half. And that's where it gets tricky.
People want to bet that because they go, well, I
don't really care to watch. But if I put a
thousand dollars on Oregon to cover twenty four and a
half points, then all of a sudden, it gives me
(03:01):
something to cheer for. Right, Or I put a couple
hundred bucks on James Madison, all of a sudden, it
gives me something to cheer for. So before the game started,
it was funny. I was sitting there with my buddies,
the three of my buddies, and I told him, I said,
you guys, I should have bet my house on Oregon.
I can't believe the spread is twenty four and a half.
I literally should have bet my house. Well, it's thirty
one to three at halftime, Okay, they've already covered the
spread by halftime. I'm sitting there and I'm like, this
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was free money. I can't believe I didn't bet it.
And this is why, by the way, I don't keep
money in these accounts because I know better. But even then,
and even as I've been studies, even as I know
how this goes, I'm like convincing myself, I'm an idiot
for not betting this game that looks like it's gonna
end up sixty to three.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And wouldn't you know it, in the second.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Half, Oregon completely takes the foot off the pedal, puts
all their backups in, James Madison scores a couple of touchdowns.
At the end of the game, James Madison ends up
losing by like seventeen, easily covers the spread. I would
have lost everything, and I just laughed.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
My buddies. We were laughing our head off because I
was like, dude, I.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Should have bet my house on this, and I kind
of meant it, but obviously I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But this is why it's so addicting.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Like how much more fun is it to watch a
game like, you know, George is playing old Miss right
in the Cult Football Playoff this last weekend. I could
care less who wins, but if I put a little
bit of money on old miss, oh my gosh, how
fun would that be? And I used to do this
back in college. I had a buddy who had as
like a little bookie. I remember this one time. His
name was Travis, and it was the BYU San Diego
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State game and I think the spread was BYU was
favored by five points and the end of the game,
San Diego State led the whole game. So this dude
had bet and this was when we were like twenty
three twenty four, so pretty young, and it was a
lot of money for him.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
At the time.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
But he'd bet like a thousand or two thousand bucks
that San Diego State was going to cover and Santago
State is winning. Not only are they going to cover, well,
it comes down to the last play again, BOU goes
on a run. I think they were down by like
eleven with like two minutes left to go on a run,
and wouldn't you know it, BYU ends up sending this
game to overtime. By the way, if BAU had won
by one or two or three or four, even this
dude still wins his bet, right, Bou makes this crazy
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come back to the last two minutes ties, the game
sends its overtime, and then in overtime, bo You goes
I'm a heater and ends up winning by like nine
or ten points. And the only way this guy, I mean,
he literally was up if you include this bread sixteen
points with like two minutes left.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Goes over time and ends up losing the bet.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And I remember, it's just he sat there in the
arena when we were done for probably like three hours straight.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
He couldn't move.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He was so devastated by this beat right by getting
beat on this. And this is the problem, guys, is,
especially as gamblers, you want to start chasing it, right,
Like when you lose money, you want to get the
next one. You want to get the next one. This
is where people really get in trouble. And it doesn't
seem like it. I mean, I'm forty four now, and
I was talking to somebody recently about this. They were,
you know, talking about I put a post up on
(05:36):
my Instagram that it's a waste of money to use
door dash and uber eats, and a couple of people
were like coming at me they were like, well, do
you don't know how it is like I, you know,
like when you're sick or you're just tired, or I'm
working on other things. And I try to tell him,
is like, so from the time I was twenty one,
twenty two years old to today, the stock market has
eight xd which means every dollar that I would have
put into the stock market when I was twenty two
(05:57):
years old would be worth eight times at today. And
you really need to start thinking about it that way, like,
because it's not like, you know, our currency is gonna
end up not having inflation anytime soon. And so if
you don't want to get way behind in life, these
young people that are wasting money on door dash and
uber ates and these things and then gambling, and they're
doing it thinking, oh, it's just one hundred bucks, it's
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just fifty bucks or whatever. But that fifty bucks one
hundred bucks if would actually put it into an investment
twenty years from now, and it catches up quicker than
you think. Guys, like I said, I'm forty four now
and here we are. But every dollar you spend today
is like in these gambles, is money that could have
really gone towards the future for you. And the other
problem with gambling is everybody knows somebody that's made a
bunch of money, right Like I play in this gambling
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thing every single week. It's fake, but you have basically
they give you ten games that you bet against the
spread every week. There's I think fifty of us in
this league. We all pay a couple hundred bucks to
join it at the beginning, and then the winner, you know,
gets a bunch of It's like a fantasy league kind
of thing. But you bet ten games against the spread
and you put you know, you label them one to
ten on the value on each game to have. And
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the reason I'm mentioning this, I actually.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Did really good this year.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I took six plays out of fifty guys. Of the
fifty of us, only I think thirteen people were in
the positive as far as they had made more bets
that they won than they lost. Okay, I think I
did over two hundred games total, and I think I
was positive thirteen games, and I was.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
In sixth place.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
To give you an idea, well, one of the weeks
I happened to go ten and zero. I just had
this crazy week. I won the weekly prize. That week,
I literally hit all ten of my games against the spread.
And you see something like this and you're like, dude,
if I would have parlayed that, basically every dollar I
would have put on a parlay of that would be
worth about four thousand dollars. To give you some idea
of how hard it is to hit all ten games.
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Keep in mind, if you take out that week, I
was basically five hundred the rest of the season. But
the point of that is is you only hear when
people win, so you hear your buddy win and money
you see people Every gambler only tells you their wins like.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I've literally had. There was a dude here locally.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He was actually a member of my men's group years ago,
and he ran a little booky thing. And this was
before he was in my group, but I remember talking
to him on the golf course one time.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
He was like, dude, you're crazy, that's like. And he
was taking big bets like.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
This dude had his own company, He had a couple
million that he had set aside. He was taking ginormous
bets and just taking bets from all sorts of random people. Anyway,
long story short, you know, I watched this dude's whole
life kind of fall apart as he got sucked into this.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And what happens is is you.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Start thinking you're smarter than everybody else. You start thinking
you knows, But these bets are there's a reason they
to allure you onto the sites in the first place.
They do all these risk free bets, free parlays, free
two hundred dollars bets.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
You've probably seen all this. This is how they suck
you in because.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
There's something about inside of us, like once you start
betting on games, you just want to bet on every game.
It's this ultimate dopamine hit, right, and it's deadly again.
It's you got the mix of sports and making money.
These are like the two things that every kid has
told that he should be doing, making money and like
being into sports. So when you mix them together, it
really is this dopamine hit that's very hard to get
anywhere else. And it feels like you're almost like you're investing, right,
(08:56):
Like crypto's a little bit this way, so you kind
of like disguise it that way, like, oh, I'm just
this is my you know, this is my investing, But
really what it is is every single time you're doing this,
you're getting a dopamine hit that's based on something that's
going to get you wanting to come.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Back for more and more.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And the worst part now is you got these apps
that are all over the place. There's literally hundreds of
millions of young men around the world that are on
these apps. That's who they're targeting, influencers all the time
getting on there, right, and they always talk about all
the upside.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Nobody talks about the losses.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I have had so many friends that have gotten into
sports gambling or sports betting. Not a single one of them,
not a single one of them, was still doing it
two years later. They were all out of money because
eventually the house catches up. It's just it's designed to
do that. And the reason why I want to speak
out on this, this is where it really gets dangerous,
is gambling actually has the highest suicide attempt of.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Any addiction, gambling above everything else.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Twenty percent of gambling addicts actually end up trying to
commit suicide at some point in their life. Also, it's
the highest of all the addictions for relapse. Ninety percent
of people end up gambling again when they say they're
going to quit.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Since they've started legalizing betting all over the country, bankruptcies
in general in the country are up almost ten percent,
which is just crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's like a direct correlation.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
The grafts matchup equally and again, like young people right now,
I feel back from like they don't have savings. You know,
it hurts their employment opportunities, it hurts their credit scores.
They're not putting money away into savings. Like guys, getting
rich is a boring game. It's a slow, boring game
where over time you just keep doing the same things.
Eventually you have money. But that's just not what's happening.
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So the reality is right now, you guys just eighteen
year olds, thirty year olds that agents.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You guys have a lot of things going against you.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
You know, you've got we legalized now that just slows
you down and makes you lazy. You got you know,
unlimited porn in your on your phone, and these things
that are like really just degenerate type things that feel normal.
I mean, the amount of people that are on OnlyFans
is I think it's like two million people in the
United States have an only Fans account, which is crazy, Like,
get off of that if you haven't only fans account
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like deleted immediately, Like it's not even about doing something
that's like going to waste your time or just even
like you know, the idea of just sexualizing and objectifying women.
More than anything, it's what it does to your confidence
that you're a part of that, that you're paying to
see another woman naked or be sexy on this you
know paywall, And it's just it's something about your confidence,
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which affects your energy, which affects you in the real life.
And so but then the third thing is you got
this casino in your pocket. You literally can any time
pull up a game. I remember one year I bet
at the Super Bowl, and I would always just do
these stupid lil prop bets, like thankfully I had a
website and I would put a thousand dollars on it
once a year, and when it was gone, it was gone.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
And that was the way that I managed this.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And by the way, like if you can't just go
cold turkey or you don't want to hear like I
just love sports betting, like you need to get some
really solid boundaries and rules around That's what I did,
Like I said, I would put a thousand dollars in
the account, and when it was gone, it was gone.
And I would never place bets for anybody else because
people would hear that I had, you know, fifty bucks
on the game or a hundred bucks on game.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And I also, by the way, I had the money
to be doing.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
This like, which is an important piece in this But
at the end of the day, it was literally for me,
it was one thousand.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Dollars to be entertained until that money was gone. And
I looked at it that way.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
When I go gambling in the casino, I've actually never
lost more than four hundred dollars in a day in
a casino, which is a crazy low amount all things considered,
for how much I've gambled. And the reason why is
because of the approach that I take. And you have
to have a strategy on these things. So I literally go, Okay,
it's gonna cost me four hundred dollars tonight to go
to the casino and have fun. And if I don't
lose my money, great, but then you're not chasing your losses.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
At any point I get up and walk away.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I've walked away up seventy dollars feeling like I'm the
richest guy in the world just because I didn't lose
my money in the casino.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Right, you can have just as much fun.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I remember one time one of my buddies like, more gambling,
more money is not more fun, it's more stress. My
buddy we went down to Vegas one time and he
was a big poker player. So he wanted to go
sit with the big boys in Vegas and play. So
he brought I think it was about twenty thousand dollars,
which it was a lot of money when this happened.
It's seen a lot of money now, but I mean
this was like two three months to this guy's payments
(13:01):
of how much money he would make basically.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And I remember that night we all go to go
to dinner.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He's like, I'm gonna keep playing poker, and then we
go out and he's like, I'm gonna keep playing poker.
And that night we go to our room and he's like,
still playing poker. The guy just played all day, and
eventually about seven in the morning, I go down just
to check on him and see where he's at. And
I'm checking like the pool first, I'm checking like the restaurants.
I'm thinking there's no way he's still playing poker. And
then I go to the poker table and there he is,
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and he lost. I watched him lose about I think
he lost like eighteen thousand dollars that weekend, and there
wasn't a single thing fun about. I watched for about
an hour and a half before it was all gone,
and there was nothing fun about it. It was pure stress.
The dude was just miserable to be around the rest
of the trip. And I saw firsthand, like how excited
this guy was to do this, and he still plays
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all the time. To give you an idea, so again,
it looks like it's harmless, it looks fun, it looks like,
you know, you think that it's skill based, you think
you can beat the house. Like I said, it's also
something that's people love to talk about.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
It's socially accepted. Of all the advices, it's definitely the.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Most accepted socially, And I think that's a real negative
as well, because nobody's like, oh my gosh, I got gambles,
like the piece of shit, you know. But like it's
not like using drugs or just being a degenerate in
some other activities.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
It feels cool.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I remember like super Bowls where I'll take all these
little prop bits, Like I said, it was always part
of a plan for me. And by the way, if
you want to bet on the super Bowl, do it,
but like, don't bet money that you need to win.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Here's the best way I can say it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
If it's going to affect your emotions, if it's going
to affect your mood, if you lose, you've bet too
much money, right, If it's going to affect you good
or bad, Like if you make two hundred dollars, great,
if you lose two hundred dollars great, if that's you know,
part of like your budget. But if it's going to
literally affect how the rest of your night goes, you
should not be betting that amount of money on that game.
That's kind of the best way that I can say it.
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It's interesting, you know, it's a lot of people that
are gambling.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
They're afraid to talk about it. They don't want to
admit it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
They sound stupid because it's more skill based. They think
it makes them look stupid or dumb, so they don't
share about it very often. So a lot of time
when people are losing everything, they do it in silence.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I remember one time I used to take dates out.
We would go out this place called Windo Over.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's about an hour and a half from Salt Lake,
and it's across the border, so you can legally gamble.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It's kind of fun. It's just like these ghetto.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Hotel casinos and take a date out there and have
a fun night out of it. And I remember one
time I was out there and I ran into a
buddy that I'd known a couple of years earlier, and
he had a.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Giant ziplock bag with him.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
He's sitting at the blackjack tables in Windover and this
dude made about one hundred and thirty thousand year. I
actually know the whole story now because we've become closer
to friends over the last.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Few years, and we talked about it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
But this dude was gambling a couple hundred bucks, he lost,
pull out some more couple hundred bucks. Next thing I know,
this entire stack is gone and he runs to his
car and gets more money and found out later he
lost like eight or nine thousand dollars that night. And
his dude was making about one hundred and thirty thousand
a year, and he just had this addiction.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
He couldn't stop it. He was chasing it. He was chasing,
he was chasing it. So it's something I'm worried about.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Something I think if you're a young man, like one
of the big goals you could have for twenty twenty
six is that you don't gamble on sports anymore, right, Like,
don't do it on your phone if you want, if
you're the occasional time where you end up in a
casino or you know, you're down in Vegas and you
want to put some money on some games or something.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Sure like at the beginning of.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Every like baseball season, our foot college football put one
hundred dollars on a team and gives me a team
to cheer for, something like that, like eight to one
odds to win it, you know, fifteen to one odds
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Those are fun ways to still be able to gamble.
But you're not.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Again, you're just not emotionally committed to this. It's not
going to change your life if you win or lose.
Okay for me, you know, it's funny. I growing up
Mormon in Utah, we were always end up down in
Vegas too, and I always wanted to gamble. It's very
like frowned upon in the Mormon religion, right, but like
also not like nobody would.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's not one of the things that would keep you
out of like being able.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
To take the sacrament or going to the temple, the
things that you kind of get chastised for. I don't
think anybody, well as far as I know, has ever
had to sit that out because they had a gambling addiction.
But I remember I just wanted to gamble one again.
Remember when I turned twenty one, I was so excited
to go gamble for the first time. And I remember
a couple of years after I was I would probably gamble,
you know. I was up or down a couple hundred
(17:09):
bucks over a couple of years. And then one year
BYU was playing Tulsa and Max Hall was our quarterback,
Dylan Caley was our receiver, Dennis Pitty. We had this
team that was loaded. We're playing Tulsa. Who the Hell's Tulsa? Right,
And and in the same week Utah was playing Ucla.
But Ucla had a new quarterback who just got back
from his mission. He was a five star guy that
almost went to bou His name is Benelson, So I
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just remember, like I knew Ben Olsen was going to
destroy Utah, and I knew Byu was going to destroy Tulsa,
and so I set up this account. It was like
twenty eleven or something. I set up this account online
and I put one thousand dollars on each game. This
is like the first time I'd ever done this, okay,
and I'm like, okay, these are shoe wins. Well, me
and my brother were actually going to the Bou Toulsa game.
So we fly into Tulsa. Man, it was like two
(17:51):
thousand and nine. I don't know, because I remember it
was still recovering from the housing bottom and it just
place was like a ghost town. But we start this game,
oh in Utah played earlier in the day, and Utah's
defensive line just came to play. They sacked that dude
like eight times, picked him off like three times. They
destroyed you. So so I've already lost that thousand dollars.
I'm like, wow, I did not see that coming. The
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dude ended up being a total bust as a quarterback.
It's kind of funny. But I still got the Tulsa
game to get my money back, and so I go
to the Bou Tulsa game, and oh my gosh, they
had it was like the air raid attack. It was
the dude that ended up literally like creating that offense.
I think they scored like sixty points on BYU that night.
The whole game, we're down by a touchdown. We were
really good too, Boyu was, but we ended up losing
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and I.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Lost that money. And this was it was two thousand
and one because I did not have the money to lose.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I remember it hurting so bad, like I needed that
money and instead I just lost two thousand dollars. I
remember looking at my account. I probably was a third
of the money I had to my name at that point.
And I just couldn't believe I bet on these two games.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And you know, it.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Was just like they were such obvious bets to me.
They were so obviously.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Going to win.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It was kind of like that James Madison game the
other day, Like that game was thirty one to three
at halftime, and the game changes in the second half,
I would have lost all my money, would have lost
my house. And so the point is, guys, is like
you're going to lose if you play this game. I
know this sounds like a stupid thing to like be
really concerned about it the podcast, But I really want
to speak to the eighteen to.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Thirty year olds this year. You know, there's so many
things going against you.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Like I said, you have a casino in your pocket,
and you have all these people touting all their bets
and you know, like even the Indians, that was so
funny when they were like sharing the story on ESPN
about these dudes like rigging games and spiking the ball
for gambling. A gambling side is rolling across the bottom
of the screen. You know, every single stadium in America.
Now you see these gambling sites. They're pouring so much
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money into the marketing because they're really trying to capture
that eighteen to thirty year old and we see the
same thing happening, you know, trying to outsource all these
different things, and they're trying to get your money.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
They're trying to take it from you.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And I promise you, like if you put it into
the stock market or put it into account where you
can eventually buy real estate, like you can get rich
really really almost guaranteed you're going to eventually make money
if you live it in their line long enough but
when you put it into these gambling sites, it's almost
a guarantee you're going to lose your money. And so
I'm just grit for me. I never thankful. I never
had any huge losses. I have a family member that
he used to live in Las Vegas. I remember one
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time he told me the story. This was the last
time he ever gambled. He took his entire paycheck after
he got off work, went and cashed it, went to
the casino, lost all of it. He was a newlywed,
and he had to go home and tell his wife
that he'd lost his entire paycheck, and he said that
that was the day that he just retired from gambling.
Props to him. I don't think he's ever gambled again since.
But that's the reality of it, that's what it looks like.
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And there's this thing called chasing your bad losses, you know,
where anytime you lose money, and here's the other thing,
you do these parlays and you'll hit fourhead of five
and you're like, I was so close. I was so close.
It feels like you're right there, but it's just not
the way it is. You don't ever catch up. You
just get further and further behind. So I want you
guys to understand a couple things. Though, you're not weak
if you have a gambling problem, right, Like, this is
something that has been engineered to work against you.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
This is strong.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
This is something that if you're unaware of this, like
it's it's designed to beat you.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Down, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And again, they're just going to keep getting more difficult
to not do this, Like, it's gonna get to the
point where think about this with all these dopamine spikes.
With gambling, here's one of the things you don't think
about all of a sudden. If you're not gambling on
a game, you're completely bored. This is a really good
sign that you have a gambling addiction. If you're watching
a game on you're bored because you don't have any
money on it. You've lost the ability to enjoy a
game just for the sake of enjoying. That's because you
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keep dumping this false doping. It's why you know, Like
cocaine's so dangerous because it literally resets your dopamine sceptors
in your head, and so you can't get the same
enjoyment out of doing things that you used to give
you joy and so like little things are simple things
that you would enjoy before no longer work because you've
reset all your you know, receptors in your head and
(21:41):
the dopamine spike isn't coming. This is how you really
destroy your life. This is why druggies end up getting
into worse and worst place. The same thing happens with
gambling and everything else. So here's the best way you can,
you know, break this. If you feel like you have
a gambling prompt today, like number one is, talk to
somebody about it. You got to break the silence. You
got to break the secrecy if you're doing this. If
you have some apps to eat them, get them off
your phone, block them.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
One of the best things I ever did was funny.
I put some money into an e trade account when
I was like twenty three or twenty four. It was
right when Facebook had iPod and I bought a bunch
of Facebook stock.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Actually, and I.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Had Amazon, Zillow, and Taco Bell. These were the four
stocks i'd put I had about eight thousand dollars. I
put it into an e trade account. I forgot my password.
I forgot that I didn't check into this account for
like six years. I'm not even joking, and all of
these stocks and talk about them not really, but the
other three had gone crazy. And when I opened my
account back up, I pulled up my my thing. It
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was literally I forgot I had money. There was like
sixty thousand dollars, this crazy amount of money. That was
the first time I started going, oh, I think I
need to look a little bit deeper at this stock
market thing, right. But the point is like, if you don't,
if I would have had that app on my phone,
if I'd have been checking it all the time, I
would have for sure cash that money out multiple times.
And so sometimes the best thing you can do not
have these apps on your phone, not have gambling sites
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on your phone.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Really just like put blockers on it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
You got to make as much friction as you can
tell your to block these accounts, like don't accept money
from any kind of gambling sites. You know, you can
specifically put that on your credit card. And then you
got to do something to replace what you've been doing
to get the dopamine hit. So, you know, hanging out
with friends, lifting is a good one, you know, sawnic
cold plunge, some of these things that guys are doing
to be a little bit more productive. Also business like
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making money the real way cells like go into sales.
Like the same dopamine spy you get from hitting a game,
you get for making big sell. I know it because
that's what I did my entire life. You know, take
some real risks in life, go do some adventures, go travel,
go to some of these other things, and try to reset.
There's a thing called the hedonic treadmill. When you've been
doing this too long, like you need a higher and
higher high. It chases this thing before you get the
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dopamine spike, but it resets pretty easily too. And one
of the way you can ways you can reset it
is by going the opposite direction, like purposefully allowing yourself
to be bored. This is where meditation and prayer and
just sitting in silence and doing some of these things
comes into play. So look at the end of the day,
like do you really want to let these multi billion
dollar companies weaponize against you and beat you? Because that's
(24:03):
what's happening, Like they're beating your ass, right, it's social media,
but it's also affecting your bank account. You're choosing to
sacrifice your future or what you want just to chase
the dopamine eye because eventually the profits are not going
to be there. I honestly don't know a single person
that's like gone full time into like sports betting or
gambling that's still.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Doing it two years later. I've had several buddies four
or five that have tried.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And they tell you their first month they made forty grand,
and the second month they made ninety grand, and they're
so excited, and then next thing, you know, and they
always just like talk about it like it happened by accident, like, oh, dude,
you're not gonna believe what happened. I know I will
believe what happened because it's sports, and it happens all
the time. Like you can't predict outcomes of games every time.
Go look at the smartest people in the world have
no clue when it comes to sports. They talk about
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all these games. I mean, look at the game that
I just watched the other day was Alabama Indiana. I
think four of the five experts before the game had
picked Alabama. Indiana beat him like thirty seven to seven
or something. It was just a crazy score. And so
the point is, like we don't know, and there's no
way to get an edge on the house like with legally,
at least without risking going to prison forgetting insider information.
So ultimately, guys, you know, the number one addiction right
(25:09):
now going on in America for young men your age,
it's it's not drugs. It's not alcohol, you're actually quitting alcohol.
It's it's gambling. It's sports gambling. And it's the number
one thing that's destroying lives right there with porn and weed,
only fans these different things. Again, I think that you know,
they've been able to weaponize your phone to make it
a casino. You can bet on every game. You can
bet on almost every play on every game. That's crazy.
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And you know I get the temptation because I've done it.
I told you some of these stories so that you
know I'm not trying to tell you like I'm better
than this or I'm better than you.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I'm just telling you I get it.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I've done these things, and thankfully in twenty eleven before
I understood the dangers of doing this when I bet
on that Tulsa game. Thankfully, at that time I didn't
have an app that I could just go on my
phone and try to chase my loss and get it back.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It was so inconvenient.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I think I had to go to my bank and
like wire money to get like money into this account.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
That's how I had to bet it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And so the point is is, like, you know, thankfully
there was another resistance, and give yourself that resistance, Like
it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You know you keep hearing all the ads. It's like
risk free and everything else, you know, celebrity endorsements. If
this thing was risk free, they wouldn't be doing it.
If they were really giving them for way free money,
they couldn't be able to do it. They just are
trying to hook you in. They're trying to get you
that dopamine high so you can feel it.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I've bet on an LSU Alabama game simply because I
was bored and that was the only game on that night.
I think I had a date cancel on me, and
I was like, I just want to be entertained. And
I threw four hundred bucks on LSU. I even won,
but it was stupid. It was like not a good
way to spend my time, right, if nothing else, I
wasted four hours and I was glued to the TV
for this stupid ass game. I'm just saying, there's plenty
of ways that you can get rich in life, and
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gambling is never going to be one of them. So
if you're a young guy again, I care about you, guys.
I want you guys to get ahead. There's so many
people working against you, so many influencers even that are
you know, I just saw that kid that exposed that
whole thing in Minnesota with the Somali people. Next thing,
I know, the second time it shows him on the TV,
he's wearing a poly market shirt. Like, by the way, guys,
those are gambling. It's polymarket and Calshier or whatever the
(27:02):
hell it's called. Do not go on those either. Like
if you're betting on what a guy's gonna see in
his speech or who's gonna be the next present, you
have a gambling addiction, like go watch some of these
gambling movies. It doesn't work out well for these people.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Okay. From Indecent Proposal, the dude's gambling.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
The next thing he knows, he's let his wife sleep
with another man for a million dollars. You've got the
honeymoon to Vegas. The dude ends up getting losing everything.
I think he loses his wife gambling as well. Like
they really know how to hit you with that one.
I guess Casino. Go watch a few of these movies. Okay, Rounders,
Like it doesn't work out. Rounders is a bad example
because he wins the last one. But my point is
(27:37):
he gets his ass Kicktoms gets killed by a bunch
of guys for a gambling It's true, like you're just
when you're in the gambling world, they're seedy people, They're
sketchy people. Like go watch some of these documentaries. Are
these guys that were shaving points? They were around the
shadiest people. These are not the kind of people you
want to be around. That referee from the NBA, Tim Donogh,
You go watch that documentary like these you have to
be around really bad people. You never know what those
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people are gonna do. So anyways, if you're watching this,
I just this matters. It's important. There's a conversation we
need to be having. Reach out to me. Would love
to help anybody that you know wants some more help
with this. Like I have a men's group. We help
men with addictions, whether it be porn, weed, gambling.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Whatever it is, this is what we do.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We help give support to each other so that you
know the thing that we all think makes us unlovable.
Maybe you are broke, maybe you've lost tens of thousands
of dollars gambling. Whatever it might be, it's actually your
superpower because it allows other people to connect with you.
But don't suffer in silence, guys, and definitely let's break
this addiction. If this is plaint a part in your life,
it's too fun to watch against. By the way, damn
you and Manuel class A, because the Indians ended up
(28:34):
making a run this year. We made the playoffs and
if we would have had our other two pitchers, we
damn well could have done something good. And so I'm
still mad at that guy all for a stupid gambling.
The guy was making like nine million a year. He
was set to make twenty five to thirty million a year,
literally and he got busted gambling less than one hundred
thousand dollars. That's like so stupid, And that's actually a
really good way to end this. Like, think about that
(28:56):
for this guy, it had nothing to do with the money.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It couldn't have.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
There wasn't enough money there to win but he had
an addiction to it. It was giving him a dopamine
hit that he couldn't get either way. He was rigging
this baseball game, making money on the side, probably looking
cool to his buddies, and because of that he lost everything.
Now he's going to be, you know, out of the
game of baseball.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So hopefully this is helpful. You guys a game. My
name is Jimmy Rex.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Hit me up mister Jimmy Rex on Instagram and share
this with somebody you know that maybe could listen to it,
somebody out there that's gamb won a little bit too
much or caring a little bit too much about who
wins that Tennessee Mississippi state game, you know, that.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Random game on a Thursday night. So much love everybody, Bye,
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