On this episode of The Jimmy Rex Show, Jimmy welcomes Hardy Bey — entrepreneur, developer, builder, and widely known as the Street Brother Mentor. Hardy is a powerhouse in the business world, serving as a partner in one of the largest toy companies on the planet. But that’s just one slice of his incredible journey. From building massive real estate projects to launching innovative startups, Hardy has his hands in ventures that are reshaping industries.
Jimmy and Hardy dive into the origin stories behind Hardy’s success, uncovering the bold moves and pivotal moments that took him from humble beginnings to global business ventures. Hardy opens up about the mindset required to play at the highest level, how he navigates risk and uncertainty, and why mentorship has become such a central passion in his life.
They also explore the power of relationships, staying authentic in a world chasing hype, and how Hardy continues to evolve and stay hungry no matter how big the wins get. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur, seasoned investor, or just someone looking for real talk about what it takes to build something meaningful, this conversation is packed with hard-earned wisdom and motivating stories.
Tune in for a raw, insightful, and energizing episode that will push you to dream bigger, act bolder, and level up in every area of your life.
Jimmy and Hardy dive into the origin stories behind Hardy’s success, uncovering the bold moves and pivotal moments that took him from humble beginnings to global business ventures. Hardy opens up about the mindset required to play at the highest level, how he navigates risk and uncertainty, and why mentorship has become such a central passion in his life.
They also explore the power of relationships, staying authentic in a world chasing hype, and how Hardy continues to evolve and stay hungry no matter how big the wins get. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur, seasoned investor, or just someone looking for real talk about what it takes to build something meaningful, this conversation is packed with hard-earned wisdom and motivating stories.
Tune in for a raw, insightful, and energizing episode that will push you to dream bigger, act bolder, and level up in every area of your life.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Jimmy Rex Show.
And today on the podcast, I sit down with Hardy Bay.
He is also known as the Street Brother mentor. He
is a partner in one of the largest toy companies
in the entire planet.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's also a.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Developer and a builder and doing some exciting entrepreneurship opportunities
over in Ghana. Currently grew up in Watts. You will
get the story here on the podcast. But this is
an inspirational man, somebody that it's funny every time I
talk and we just see the world the same way.
So I really enjoyed sitting down and chopping it up
with him. So without further ado, let's get to the
podcast with Hardy Bay. But before we do that, let
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Speaker 2 (00:52):
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Speaker 1 (00:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:59):
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bucked up protein. And now let's get to the show. Already,
good to be on the show, man Man, thank you
for having me Rex. Yeah, so so glad to have
you here. So you have a very interesting I guess
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it's your moniker, your Instagram handle Street Brother.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Mentor, and I think I want to start with that.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
What is that all about?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So the Street Brother Mentor was to be able to
I'm born and raised.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
And Watts, you know, I come up out of the
Jordan Down Project, ninety fifth and Hickory, so that's my surrounding.
And I wanted to be able to create something to
talk to the common man that come from where I
come from, you know, because sometimes people got to see it.
If you can't see it, you'd be like, Okay, you
come in a suit all the time, whatnot. And a
guy that comes from the street never been in.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
A suit, he can't relate.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So I wanted to create a street Brother mentor, someone
who comes from the streets who have made their way
internationally all around rurald to bring that information back.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, it's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
One of the best forms of intelligence is can you
share a message that everybody receives? I love right, if
you can't speak to the common person. We see this today,
I mean you saw it with It's the difference between
Donald Trump and Mitt Romney, Right, Mitt Romney, if you're
in the bottom half of the quote unquote economic world
or financial world, and you know you just you didn't
relate to that guy at all.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Whereas Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He'll do things and say things that make you realize like, oh,
this guy's want of me. You think that you know
you're not, but it makes you believe that at least,
so you want to be able to listen to the message.
So for you growing up in wats, I mean, were
you there during like the Rodney King ryads and the
whole thing, then yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, yeah, yea.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
How old were you during all that? Ninety two? So
I was about eleven years old ninety two.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I remember, I remember that I went to California for
the first time when I was like twelve years old,
and I was born in eighty one, like similar and
I just remember driving through the street and they had
knocked over a fire hydra and the water was going everywhere.
I just remember thinking, man, this is a different world
over here. But I mean, how crazy was that growing
up in wats during that time.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I mean it was actually real crazy, but you know,
the irony of it, it kind of brought us together,
right because you know, that was the first time that
we witnessed you know, that that incident in America right
on National TV. Right, But this is something we've been
dealing with forever. When I laugh, I'll be telling people like, bro,
it's televised.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I grew up in.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Los Angeles Firestone Sheriff, Like, they are notorious for putting
boot to you what I'm saying, So it's like, what
are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You know here? Right?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
It's just been televised at that time, So it was
a very interesting moment to see it televised and then
to see how everybody react, because it's not like we
didn't know these things was already happening in the community.
It just became televised and intensified. So it was an
interesting time. But yeah, it's it's Los Angeles, bro, So
you know, it gets wild sometime it normally be the
(04:04):
one that kicked things off in the US, and so
to be able to live through that time it was wild, Bro.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And so I mean, yeah, it's so much going on
in California at that time.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You get the O. J.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Simpson stuff and everything else that was going on. So
how'd you end up getting your way out of that?
Because one of the hardest things for people to do
is to change their socioeconomic situation. Right, most people just
staying whatever, you know, environment they're born into. So how
did you How did you be able.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
To escape that?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
So for me, I was able to get some great mentors, Bro,
And that's why I came with that Street brother mentor.
You know, I'm only I'm here because of my mentors.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Man.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I had great mentors to lace me up and give
me the game. And I always remember, it's not where
you started when you finished. So I always always been
that guy to know that this is this wasn't my
end goal, this condition right here by just coming up
out of wats so I already had the mindset to
know that hey, this is not the end. You know,
it's just needed direction and individuals to give us information
(05:05):
that we were not privalent to that can change your life.
And that's what happened. And you know, I have a
seventh great education. Ris I never went to high school.
And so for me, I tell guys all the time
and I just spoke at Temple University in February, and
I tell people all.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
The time, it's like, bro, you know, it's intelligence, right.
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
You can go in a class and you can listen
to the professor and you just remember, you know. But me,
I am a learned man, not a talk man. And
so it's a difference. But that's how I end up.
And you know, one thing about people when they know
you really want it to help you, bro, you.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Know what I'm saying. And it's all about that, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And so I had some great mentors to help me
along the way, and you know, give me a whole
different mindset.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
But yeah, it's fun to teach somebody or to mentor
somebody when they do the things that you're asking them
to know or you're telling them what's going to work
for them. I was on the phone with a guy yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mentor a lot of real estate agents.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You know, that's where I basically made my career and everything.
And it's funny because they ask me what it takes
to sell fifty one hundred homes in a year, and
I lay out the formula. And I do this with
almost every guy that joins my coaching program. And this
is the first dude that's actually done it. And he's
averaging I think eight or nine home sales a month
right now. He's twenty two years old. Twenty two years
(06:18):
old selling eight nine homes a month right now. He's
just absolutely destroying it. And he said, he goes, Jimmy,
I have modeled my business one hundred percent after you.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Everything you taught me to do.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And he's doing things and I teach him all these
little different things that I did. And one of the
things that he talked to me about yesterday, he said, you,
one of the things you said to me was always
make moves that'll benefit you seven to ten years down
the road.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And so he's doing these things today. He's putting it
into place, but so many people do it. And props
for you for having that foresight as well, well, you know,
for me.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Just to build on that a little bit.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
The first first, as soon as I inter with people
and you know, come into contact with him, or I
want my services or I want my information, whatever. The
first thing I tell him be culturable. You see what
I'm saying, because that's what just talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
If Phil Jackson already got the game plan, bro, be coachable.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
You're trying to get somewhere with somebody already been Yeah,
you can remix it a little bit along the way.
But there's only one road to success, but there's many exits, right,
so you choose right.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So for me, you know, that's how I look at it.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I tell people be culchable, and most people are just
not colachable for whatever reason. And we talked about a
lot of athletes, you know, and that's why I like
working with athletes. I like working with military people and whatnot.
Because the discipline you're following me the culchability.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You can't be a superstar if you not coachable. I
don't care how much talent you have.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
So the culchability is the most important thing of that aspect.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So, so what was your first big breaker your first
success in business?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Oh, my first success in business.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
I want to say real estate, you know, real estate
would be my first you know, my first love my
first baby.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You keep first a little bit of background where you
at with real estate today? I know you you were
just talking about new development that you're putting together. How
many properties do you own or have you sold or
developed or whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
So since twenty one, since twenty one, I've been back
in development. I'm a carpeter by trade, ill a local
nine forty four. So I built freeways, dams, water treatment centers,
and that's what got me into the real estate and
so I really loved it. But where I'm at now,
i'm a builder and developer. Also, over the last three years,
(08:28):
I built over fifty five doors. I own probably about
twenty doors as of right now. And so that's where
I'm at in my real estate space. But that how
I got there was I start rehabbing, you know, as
being a carpenter and going in the union learning those trades.
Then I start rehabbing, and I moved to Tennessee. I
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was in Memphis for a while and I had bought
fifteen homes free and clear in Memphis, and so that
was kind of like my my claim to fame in
the real estate and then we know eight happened, and
you know, I had to.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Shift, you and me and the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, it was funny as people forget how easy
it was to buy homes back then and so you
could be super aggressive.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It sounds like you were doing the same thing I was.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I owned twelve homes by the time I was twenty six,
and thankfully my mentor came and told me to sell
them before the market crashed. I only ended up getting
stuck with two of them. But it was a wild
time back then.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, No, it was.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It was, and I was blessed too. I didn't get stuck.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I ended up liquid dating and I joined my partners
at Mind Style and China.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Tell me about that, because that's that company blew up
right one of the Are you one of the co
founders at that?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Oh no, I'm not actually one of the co founders.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I came probably about three years after the company had
already started. I'm good friends of mine, you know, Paul
Holbrook and mb Young, you know, they were the founders
stayed with the co founders of that, and I came
along not even knowing, bro, what the hell was going on.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
That's why I tell people, I said, you know, it's
not about your idea It's not about how much money
you got. It's about the people, bro. You know what
I'm saying, People is it? And I knew these guys right,
and I was all in, didn't know a clue. And
remember this is uncharted territories in China at this time.
We're talking about nine twenty ten. It's uncharted.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No one could teach you about it, no one can
share what's going on. You have to believe.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
If you don't believe, you're not going to get it done,
you know. And so I liquidated all my real estate.
I remember talking to Paul. He's like, man, we got
this big thing going on in China, wool you want
to get in. I'm like, hell yeah, because I.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Know the players.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
The players are they're so persistent, they're so focused, they're
so dowed in. I knew we were going to win,
you know. I didn't know how, but I knew we
were going to win. And so I'm like, hey, yeah,
I'm in, bro, you know. And so what I did
I started liquidating my real estate. Liquidated my real estate,
and I prossably put about five hundred thousand into the company.
(10:48):
And so that's how I started. And when I used
to first come bro, like it took us about six
years to really hit bro. That's why I tell people
everybody's not built for business, you know. But everybody felt
like they can get in right, Oh, get in until
they get in the fire, get hot, and then they
get to squiggling and.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The same thing as eighty percent of entrepreneurs probably just
need to go get a job.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Come on, really, Bro, I really bro, And I'm so happy.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I think I reflect back because I was raising money, right,
trying to raise money, and I'm glad I raised some money,
gave money back. I'm glad I didn't raise a lot
because a lot of my friendships would have fell out
because people can't understand six years and then from that
six years, boom we were shipping eighty containers a week.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You said the numbers was stupid.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
He became an owner of that company then, is that yeah?
Part yeah, partner, yes, So how many toys are you
did you? I mean, how many toys are you guys
selling that business?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Millions? Bro, millions?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
We had to one of the top toys and you know,
my partner M D. Young and Brian Marietty, they were
very tight from Funco. You see what I'm saying, I
mean very tight them. God got the coaster deal. That's
the first time I seen the coaster deal. You see
what I'm saying. This deal was rolled on the coaster.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Wow, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
A multimillion dollar deal, one hundred million dollar deal plus
roll on the coaster. You see what I'm saying. But
it's real, it's hand shape, it's integrity, you see. And
that's the that's the school of thought I come from
because I come from the streets. So because you lose
your life playing game, so I bring integrity to the business.
So I watched integrity, integrity at the integrity cause I
tell people all the time, it's that contract is not
(12:20):
gonna save you. If you're gonna rob you, you're gonna
rob you. You see what I'm saying. So you're best
to just focus on the person and make sure he's
a good person.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So how did you guys grow that to such a
giant toy I mean's one of the biggest toy companies
basically in the country at this point.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yah yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
And so we didn't necessarily, you know, necessarily grow fun
cod but we were we were hand in hand with
fun Co and and how our claim to fame was
we took all the pop culture and made it cool
with the nerd stuff, right. And so what we did
was we took every artist, right, So we'll say, let's
(12:53):
say Michael Lyle out of Hong Kong, right, we did
the Michael Loud Mad Hatter Disney, right, So you got
Michael Leile Disney and mind Style, you see that. So
that's how we blew these toys up. Then we did
the Li Lo and Stitch you see. Then like like
we did a lot of things with Ron English, you know.
And so we would take these artists and we would
(13:15):
we would collab them with these brands, and then we
were both produced the product. And that was kind of
like our thing of pushing these things to the next
level and bridging.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
The gap before people were ever doing it.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
It was like, what the hell you're doing? And I
didn't know nothing about toys. I didn't grow up with them,
so I'm like, man toys, But.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Okay, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, it's a fun business to be, you know, involved in,
just because again you're just doing something that brings people joy.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So how did you get involved?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
When we met, we connected over Africa, and the fact
that I've been to you know, almost probably twenty countries
in Africa now, And.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I remember you're a little surprised to hear.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That I knew that I knew the map a little
bit better than most people. And you know, I've planned
all these different trips and gone, and you mentioned that
you're doing some stuff and gone as a little bit
about what you got going.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
On out there.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
So what it got going on in Ghana right now,
I'm in the process of building shade butter factory. And
so just to give you a little in depth about
shade butter. It only grows in the savannah of Africa,
the only place that grows in the world.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Shade butter is now roughly a two point five billion
dollar industry.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
What makes it so popular.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Because you can cook with it, you can put it
in your skin, it has you reap, I mean UV.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Rape protection in it.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
It's just so many different things that scientists are now
figuring out what it can do.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And it's given by God.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Right, So the pharmaceutical companies wanted the bacon companies like
cause it smells like chocolate. So they're kind of putting
it and fusing it into bacon products and things like
that now and so they're like, man, this is a
wonderful thing. And then there's no waste, bro. So from
making shaye all the way to getting the fat off
the shade and then taking that they make shake cakes
(14:54):
with that. They use that as fuel, you see what
I'm saying. And then from the fuel you get ash.
They take that A should make soap, no ways, bro.
And it's the thing that's driving Ghana's northern economy. When
you go to the north, Tamalay and everything, uh why
and you continue to go up in the north. It
drives the economy. Everybody doing Shape. So when I identify
(15:18):
with that, even though I'm a real estate man, you know,
coming out and I could have just came into the
building there, but I said, you know what, we need.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Jobs and we need natural resources. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So I liked the play of the natural resource.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
And so that's what made me identify Shape as my
first thing to do in Africa because I started with
a group and they're still my family. Fire Free Inspiration
reaching everyone Ghana to the moon and we do a
business technology conference, so all of them, all my guys, smartest, Hell,
my guy Alex went to Harvard Business School, Emil they
(15:54):
they went to a pen.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You know what I'm said, These guys are all smart. Bro.
Donovan worked at the Mayor's Office of Philly right now.
All these guys are very smart. However, you know, I
was sharing with them.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Sometimes you put the cart in front of the horse, right,
But they're all tech guys like it worked at Google, Microsoft,
Email is a chemical engineer, you know what I'm saying
and whatnot. And so I was like, yeah, that sounds good,
but we must create the foundation first. And so that's
when I was like, okay, because you know, you know
how tech guys are, Bro, They get so caught up
in the tech, the tech to tech, the tech. But
(16:28):
how we going to sustain tech when we can't even sustain.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Power, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
So sometime we try to bring America to another country
that's not ready for that yet, and you have to
get it prepared. But that's where my building development skills
come in at and so identify that.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And people need jobs, so you start with the jobs first.
So as you start with the jobs and people get jobs.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Then you can tax your citizens and then you can
use those taxes to build your country. So you know,
but if you got poor people, bro, it's not going
to happen. And so that that's what started me. In Africa.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well, in Western Africa, you got a lot of different,
you know, countries. Some of them are very very poor
and then other ones are a little bit more advanced
and everything else. Where's Ghana fit in all this? What
is the biggest struggle that people in ghan.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Are dealing with?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
And I guess, well, I think the biggest struggle people
in Ghana are dealing with, to be honest with you,
is I'm not going to say bad leadership, but that's
what it boils down to. Because jah Muhammad in now
and I think John Mohamma's going to make a difference,
you know, in the country. He's already you know, Ghana
have the best currency right now, beating out the US currency,
(17:35):
you know, and so you know, by little shifts you
I've done, it has prevailed.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
So I would.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Definitely say it's it's it's the deal makers, bro, you
know what I'm saying, because whoever is signing those deals
don't know how to negotiate and they're not making sure
that people get the fair shake.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, and there's a lot of countries trying to siphon
off the essentially.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
All the.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Everything that has value from those countries, right, I mean
African in general. You got China in the US coming in,
trying to get all the resources, trying to get all
the you know, the minerals and all the things that
all these countries have to offer. So is that what
you mean when you say they're just not making good deals?
Is it with the other countries coming in?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, it's what the other country's coming in because you know,
like you know, I'm a candid person. So you know, hey,
you know when we get to talk about the IMF,
the World Bank, right, you know, these things are set
up basically photo briveh. You know because if you read
those contracts, oh man, we'll tear the country up. If
you read those contracts and they say you want our money,
but you can't grow your own food, you can't do this,
you can't do that, you can't do that. So it's
(18:36):
really a usery deal that I'm getting you in and
the top get paid and the people don't get nothing.
And so this has been going on, This cycle has
been going on and on and on and on and on.
You know, what I'm saying, So we can go from
country to country. This game has been played. But that's
that's the issue, and so that's where I come in at, right,
I come in and at it's creating a value, adding
(18:59):
to the value chain. So versus Coco. Let's just just
say Coco coming out of Gana, the average coco work
and make a dollar a day. But then you take
that same coco to Belgium, right, and we create a
candy bar.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
That same candy bar.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Is eight to twelve dollars, right, That same guy who
picked the cocoa can't afford the candy bar, right, But
Belgium has no Coco. So if we change that and
we say hey, we're going to now create finished products
in Africa and sell to the world. Now we can
pay the people more, the environment can grow, you see.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
And so that's all it is.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
It's just changing the dynamic and the shift and saying, hey,
if you want these goods, you can still buy them,
but you're going to buy them at a finished product
or you're going to buy them at mid finished where
where we can get most of the value chain, because
in manufacturing, the raw materials is not where all the
money is it's in the finished product.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And so Africa is the only only content in the
face of the earth that has never had an industrial revolution.
So when I ask people that I bring that to
people's attention, I say, listen, So, who's going to be
the Vanderbilts, who's going to be the Carnegies, who's going
to be the Rockefellers, who's going to be the DuPonts,
who going to be the JP Morrigans of Africa.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
That's how I'm thinking. You see what I'm saying, because
it's never been done, but it will be done.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
And so is that Mostly what you're focusing on is
trying to bring that industrialization to Africa?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Is that what it?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Okay, I'm a factory guy, So you going factories there
in Africa now.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
That I'm building one right now in China.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
That's what we did. So we have over a million
square feet of creative space in China. So I come
from the factory land. That's what we did with Funko.
We produced their products, and we produced products for Disney,
Warner Brothers, Pixar, NBA, Pair of My Pictures, Marvel. So
I understand how that functions and how it works, and
all we have to do is tweak that in Africa.
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And it's like this because Africa is the only place
on Earth that has everything it needs. We just watched
what did Trump just do in the Congo between Congo Rwanda?
He squashed that ship. Why Congo is the only place
on Earth with the rare rare metals? Plus China, what
we deal with China. We just signed that deal with
China too. We talk all that. Trump just signed a
deal with China to buy rare earth. China cut us
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off from rare earth.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Just see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So pay attention, you feel me? So Africa is next up.
So I'm just early. And you know early makes you wealthy.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's beautiful man.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So what are you what are you doing to position
yourself to be in the right place, with the right
people at the right time when all this happens.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
What kind of you know? What are you doing currently
to be in that spot?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Well, what you know, I'm a I'm a type of guy, rex.
Why I just I don't audition, you know, So I
spend my own money. So what I've been doing is
just spending my own dollars getting it done. We have
a free trade license now and with the free trade
license allow you to do import export duty free into
the country. So I got I just finished acre, I
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mean walling in five acres nineteen thousand, seven hundred and
forty eight bricks manpower done by hand. That's Africa. And
so so that's where I'm at now. But you know
my partner, Princecita, his uncle is John Muhammad, the president
right now. Wow, you know, so we got our man.
(22:17):
You know, we got our man. So I got the
next you know, four or five years to really make
my mark, because you know, Africa is one thing, you
know where they like to see things and see the
Chinese coming in with the money, the Lebanese coming in
with the money. I'm a black American bro. In case
you don't know, I don't have a trust fund behind me.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I'm the first generation of my money. You see what
I'm saying. So I have to do a lot of things.
It takes me longer, you know, but it builds me
and makes me a better person. Also, where you get
this guy who has so much grit because.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
He's done it by himself, for so long.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, I mean that's an advantage of growing up, you
know the way that you did, right, you learn the skills.
I mean, you can't teach those kind of people skills
and social you know, dynamics that you can learn just
growing up in the situation that you did.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir. And I'm aligning myself.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I'm not totally aligning myself with government because you know,
you got to be careful with that, right.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Because we know it gets sticky.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I'm a businessman first, you know, before anything, and so
for me is that I go demonstrate and then I
make governments listen. You see what I'm saying, because if
you go just talking, they not listening, you fall on
deaf ears. But when I go build this factory.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
And I hire a thousand people, now you're listening, you understand.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
So that's my play, even though I have all the
pieces to the puzzle, but you have to finish. You
have to be able to come in with power, with strength,
versus you coming in talking. Africa don't respect talk, you know,
because people writing checks. You need a million dollars just
to invest in Africa as a formula, just to go there,
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bro to even do business.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Is there a lot of Americans right now investing in
Africa and trying to build businesses there.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Well, there's there's not many Americans. There's Lebanese, They're Chinese.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Americans, China.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
China has kind of been working on Africa all the
different countries for a good decade and a half now.
They've been building ports and bridges and everything just to
get their influence out.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
It's not many. You find some Black Americans there. I
do find some Americans there. I'm not saying that they're
not there, but we kind of slow, bro, we kind
of slow.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
To the draw. Americas are the least travel people in
the face of Earth?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Are they really?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Was?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Because they go state to state a lot too though, right, And.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I'm saying we at least people passports, but we think
we know it all.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Imagine that, Well, it is fascin I mean, one thing,
it's like if somebody's like, oh, I'm gonna go visit
the United States, It's like you could literally go to
fifty countries and get fifty experiences. Right Whereas you know,
I was looking at a trip I'm headed this week
to Spain, and I was looking at a few places
I could bounce while I'm over there, And I was
looking at like Monaco for a day, and I was
looking at go into Malta for a couple of days.
(24:56):
And you know, it's just it's so easy to bounce around. Yeah,
everything's an hour away, like a hour and a half.
So well, and so I guess what lessons have you
learned that you you know, uh are implementing that you
could teach younger people in this podcast? Somebody you know
maybe comes from a situation like yourself. They come from
a background where not a lot of people are thinking.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Of the way that you do.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
What what would you advise a younger person? What would
you mentor a younger person right now?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
To be honest, you know, you know, find your passion,
you know, find your passion what makes you tick and
and and be original. Bro, Like everyone's trying to be
a different version of somebody else.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
The best thing you can do is be the best
version of yourself.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
And then just understand that you know, there's only one
role to success, and there's many exits, and so when
you embark on a journey, you know you can only
lose if you quit. So no one could tell you that,
oh well, you're not successful yet. Who determines that, who
determines when you post to hit, and who determines success? Right,
everyone's success is different. So I'll say, you know, block
(25:59):
out all to chatter, stay off social media, listen to
the drama. You know, because people start to social media
is kind of like poorn, right, Like people start to
think they can do things and think people are really
living these lives and all this is smoking mirrors, a
lot of it. Ninety percent of it is smoking mirrors,
and so you know, like it's just don't feed into that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
That was one thing that I would say, because you know,
you live in a world now where everything is artificial
and you damn there can't tell what's real what's fake.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, And one thing that I really like what you're doing.
One of the reasons I want to have you on
the podcast. I feel like, you know, especially in the
black culture, it's they need to be looking up to
more people like you that are out there building businesses,
doing these things, going to Ghana and like really showing
what it looks like to build a successful business life.
And I feel like they prop up too often. Maybe
you can correct me on this, but I feel like
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they prop up way too much, just the athletes and
the musicians and people that are maybe noisier but aren't
really creating as much value. And so that's why one
of the reasons why I really like what you're doing,
because this is, you know, the way that you change
the lives of all the inner city type kids is
to be able to help teach them business principles and
how to go out and build something like you are.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
No.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
No, I look, I agree with you, bro, because it's
this is what it has been you had. I can't
blame them because America did not didn't do nothing but
prop up black entertainers, bro, not black scientists.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You think you think they did it on purpose?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I do.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I think they did it on purpose, yeah, Bro, because
you got to remember, just like Africa, it was only
used for raw resources, these athletes are used to entertain Bro.
It's it's fucking Caesar all over again, right, So, and
so you get caught up in that. That's why a
kid can tell me everything about where this basketball player
went where he went, but he can't tell me nothing
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about himself, right because he don't know self.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
So you're always.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Focused on other people's business, and so how do you
change that, How do you get them to quit looking
up to just the athletes and the entertainers and focus
more on themselves. I think that, you know, that's a
good question. I think they just need more exposure. So
for like me, rex If, like I always tell people
when people when I hear people got skinned scammed and
stuff like well you got scammed, I say, well, did
you see the process of what this guy.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Was doing before you gave him money? Right?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Or you just saw him in his fancy stuff? You
saw him everywhere doing all.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
This stuff and you just assumed he was.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Anybody that's doing it, they want to show you the process.
They want to make sure that you see their success
because the money is just a byproduct of what we do.
So I think it's more exposure, the more we expose
them to individuals like myself. And that's why I really
I was talking to my boy Xavier about this of
kind of like trying to put something together and my
(28:43):
boy Witch, he used to play for Tennessee, about putting
something together for these athletes, because if the athletes have
the voice and they can persuade, if I can connect
with them, you see what I'm saying, and have the
voice together. They don't have to speak, but for me
to have the voice on their platform, because they have
the balls, we can.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Maybe get something done. You know.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And even for them, I'm into control. Recuse, I'm not
into money. I've been making money a long time and
money is just one aspect of it. Control is another right,
and control is the real play, not money. And so
for me is to say, hey, hey, broh, why why
you're not getting into like case support, like you your
real estate guy. Why these athletes not owning you know,
(29:25):
a thousand doors? You know what I'm saying, two thousand doors, right,
you can't get counseled. I don't care what you say.
And two thousand people ain't moving out. Listen, I lived
in America all my life. You wanted racists up like
the landlords we had? Did we move out?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Hell?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Now, what I'm saying, we need a place to live.
So you can't get counseled. But when you only be
an entertainer, you end up in that field.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Where one thing, one thing, they don't like you do this,
you do that, and that's another thing.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I think they be kind of nervous too.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Reck You see what I'm saying, because it's it's unspoking
words up there that you know you play games if
you want to, you won't be playing on this court again.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
And I think they don't want to trade in the
money for what you got to do. But I stand
on principle, right because I built mine. You see what
I'm saying. I'm the boss, you see, and so for me,
I don't want nothing from nobody else.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So I speak the truth. Right. If that ain't what
you want to hear, please stay away from me.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, I've just fascinated with the cultural dynamics of the
United States, right, Like you see these cities like Singapore
and you know, even like Shanghai and some of these
other cities where and you kind of look at it.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
You're like, gosh, why why are.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
So many cities in America dilapidated? How come so many
of them are run down? I mean, you see, you know,
you grew up in California. I was watching the thing
on TikTok today. It was just showing a video of California.
It's just almost people say everywhere, and it's like why
can't we build up American cities like this?
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You know?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Why can't we?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I mean I was recently just went to Milwaukee, in
Saint Louis and Cleveland, and it's like I'm looking at
these cities and you're.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Sitting there going Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
If we wanted to, we could make every city in
America look like these really nice cities. I think or
been said. We've sent our money for wars and bullshit
and all this other stuff that's going on, and you
have to like start the question, you know. And I'm
just a guy that questions everything. So I'm like, they
don't want to fix these seems. They don't want to
help the black man. They don't want to do that,
and so that's why I'm like, it's kind of I
don't even know what to say about other than it's
(31:16):
just you see that the game is rigged.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And they're not trying to fix it.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
No.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
No, in Wrech, like like, listen, a wise man told me.
He said, listen, well you can send fifty billion to
another country to go to war.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
That mean your taxes are too high.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
So it's a fat bro because you could take that
same fifty million.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
We can I mean.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Fifty billion million, and we can change our country, right, right,
But we don't.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
But we'll say this is.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Somebody for free, we get nuting in return.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Well, somebody getting something, we not getting it to American people.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
But I think that we have lost our way of
the people.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I remember, I remember, you know, Roosevelt was the people man, right,
he created our labor laws and all that. Before that,
no one gave the damn about the common man, right,
and Roosevelt came along, right. And also what came along
is you know, contributing to these campaigns. Right, you can
only contribute about two hundred and fifty thousand to a campaign.
You see, they change the rules right, unlimited amount. Why
(32:09):
would you do that, Rex, Why would you change the
rules to allow anybody to get elected, to be able
to take unliving amount of money from anybody?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Why would you do?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
They want to keep the power, They want to keep
the money. Frong.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Hey, look at ain't rocket science to me? You see
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
And what we really have to look at is our corporations. Right,
America's bought.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Bro. If we sitting if you're really sitting in America.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Today's time, and you don't know this you just just foolish, bro,
because at the end of the day, look around you.
Every politician got thirteen to fifteen lobbyists, right, You don't
think they're writing checks and they getting well, you don't
write a check. You sitting at home complaining and what's
going on. But you're not writing checks. You're not truly
getting involved. Because this is what it is. We live
(32:50):
in a capitalist society, bro, So I understand for what
it is. The United States of America is a corporation.
In a corporation design to make money. So if you
don't understand that, not to take care of their people,
who is the fiduciary obligation to It's just a shareholders
of any corporation recks, not the employees. They don't be like, oh,
(33:12):
you go down and give that God raised. They make
sure that them shareholders is taking care of That's the
whole resear So when employees don't get what they what
they feel they deserve or whatnot, or the CEO makes
sixty million and you only make sixty thousand. You see
what I'm saying, buddy, The people who took the risks,
that's who they're giving the reward to. And that's just
how business works. So I don't blame America, you see
(33:34):
what I'm saying. I just think people need to understand
it better. And so if you don't understand it, yes,
it looks like it's foul, but they're doing exactly what
they supposed to do take care of their shareholders.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, yes, you know it is. And that's one of
the things that I realized.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I once I realized the game was rigged, I said, okay,
I just need to make sure that it works in
my favor. I mean, look, there's no other way to
say it. You know, the game's rigged, it might as
well work for me. And that's kind of how it
built my life to try to work that way. And
it's fortunate. But you know, I think it's important people
listening that they realize as like, look, this game is
not meant.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
To be fair. No, it's not, and it's not fair hello.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And so all you can do is, you know, build businesses,
build up your status, build up your income. Whatever you
need to do to win the game, you got to
and you got to understand the game. You got to
know the rules of the game. It's like we've got
to go play football. You know, if you don't know
the rules of the game, it's going to be really
hard to win. And the same thing with money in general.
Like money, they've made the financial system is complicated as
possible for the everyday man, so that he just gives
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us money to.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
The local stockbroker, the local person.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yes, and then everybody else that really understands how the
money game works is just printing money over here on
the side. But if you don't know the rules of
the game, I always tell people if I say certain words,
like if I say what's in annuity and you can't
explain to me? Or I say, hey, well how does
a cap rate work? And you can't break that down
for me. You don't understand the rules of the game. No,
And so it's your job to understand better the game
(34:52):
that you're playing, or you have to just accept your
faith that you're never going to win the game.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
That part right there, But you know, to build back
on what you're saying, no one rules it. My minitory
is to tell me I was about twenty twenty one
years old. He said, John, you know why most people
don't win?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I said, why?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
He said, they're playing football with baseball rules wondering why
they can't win. You see what I'm saying, They don't
understand the rules of the game. Like I've been studying
all the way back to Alan Greenspan, right so to
Berninki to Pole now right, So I've been watching these guys.
And I remember watching Alan Greenspan back then because no
one went to prison for the old a shit.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Lehman brothers went down all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
No one went to prison, right, So I was watching
and he set out his mouth, he said, fraud is
a part of the system.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
If we don't have fraud, we don't have a system.
So I'm like people, so everybody's like.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Oh, fraud they created.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
You see what I'm saying, because this system can't run
without it, like debt, this is a debt society.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Well you see what they You know, Elon mus just
got his team. Man, they went and just did this
whole thing with Dodge. They exposed all these things and
then what did they do, ye nothing.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
They literally like put them all back into the bell.
It's like, wait, now it's even worse because now we
see just how bad it is.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I've got to be honest, I've never wanted to pay taxes,
lest in my entire life. I'm just sitting here looking
at it. But then I also just said, this is
the system we're in. And you know what it's like
being in America in twenty twenty five. If you've learned
the game, there's probably no better place to live in
the history of mankind. I mean, it really is. Last
night I was hungry. I ordered barbecue at my house
(36:24):
in twenty minutes. You know, I have to get up
off my damn couch. I went for a walk this
morning for a half hour without shoes on. You know
what I mean. I'm just saying, the system, when it
works for he works for you, right right, I know.
And so it's like as bad as it is, it's
like I don't have to worry about every single problem.
I can be mad that they're sending tens of billions
of dollars. And here's the funniest part. I just saw
(36:46):
that they just put a new bill together to send
all this money to Gaza to rebuild it. It's like
it was the Americans that paid for the missiles that
destroyed Gaza.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Now they're going to send it over there and rebuild it.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
And it's like they're gonna It's like we're literally paying
for both sides.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
You're like, what is going on? What is life?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Bro? Make it makes sense?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
But this is this is you know, you know when
you think about it, Rex, you know, I'm not I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I'm the type of god not emotional, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I am thankful for America for giving me my citizenship,
you know, and being born here. You know, however, I
see the view different because I also lived a different America, right,
And I always tell people this, So we got to
be careful. We live to different Americas.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
And so I understand that I used to always tell people,
you know, I used to go back. You know, I'm
just historian, bro, I love history, right. And so Jago
Hoover was the was the director of the FBI. He
created the FBI. He was the director until he died.
So he was a dictator basically. So, and he had memoirs, right.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
And these are facts.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
People can look this up to this day. And he
had memoirs. And you know what was one of his
biggest fears was he said, the biggest threat to American
society is black people organizing by all calls do not
let them organize. And this is why, no matter if
you're radical Malcolm X, you get your head blown off.
No matter if you were peaceful, Martin Luther King, you
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get your head blown off, because it's about organization. If
they organize, they're going to do something that we don't
want them to do and we're not going to be
able to control them. So therefore keep them right. So
it's all part of system. Like I said, you can
google this stuff. You see what I'm saying. So when
that's in the foundation of your law enforcement, how you
gonna tell me Americas for me?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
You know?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
And I actually I've heard that before.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Jander Hoover was one of the more racist dudes and
in the history of the country.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Are law enforcement I know.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I mean it is still heat.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
They still run his plenty start if you actually go
listen to the words of like Malcolm X. I actually
like him more than Martin Luther King Junior. It's my
own guy, but that's I'm kind of like him more.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yeah, but they took him out real quick. You know,
they're just like But the point of it is is
that you're not wrong. And what they'll do is they'll
prop up people that teach black people that they're victims,
that they need to rely upon the government.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I mean, that's what you see over and over again.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
You know the people that they prop up, and we
don't need to go and know who they are today,
but there's plenty of them out there, and that's what
they teach because if they can do that, they can
continue to control you.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
If you're a victim to the system, the system then
controls you.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
I was talking on the phone with a lady about welfare, right,
you know, I'm not on the phone on the plane
when I was just coming to Salt Lake and she
was going for a psychology she was getting their master's
in psychology, and so we're talking.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
She wants to be a social worker.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
She worked at a school, and I was like, you
know what, you know, we're talking about welfare. I said, well,
you know the thing is that welfare was also the
bribe to keep you a slave. So anything you take
out of the way man domesticate it. It don't want
to work no more, It don't want to eat no more.
You see what I'm saying. And that was by design,
because once again, Rex, if you start to make money,
you're empowered now.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yes, well, and so the second that somebody's giving you everything,
you lose that self confidence that comes from knowing that
you can do it on your own, Like it's the
one thing you can't give up to the system. When
COVID came out and they were sending everyone eight thousand
dollars checks, I didn't cash money because I said, I'm like,
I don't want to take anything from the system. Come on,
And it was just I could have just cashed it.
I'm money easy, but I was like, I'm not doing that.
(40:10):
I'm not doing it. I don't want to take any
money from them because I am a part. I am
free of that slavery, which is government assistance.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
And we printed more money, and everybody knew that it
was gonna end up in the United State in the hands.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
The whole thing was designed to end up in the
hands of the top people within six months.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
It was all I did.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Would destroy the bottom half of the middle class. Come on,
That's all it did.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
And even I played a part of that too.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
All these people following elon Nam, I'll be telling them, Oh,
I'm gonna buy doorage, I'm going to buy that. Oh yeah,
buy doorge and buy them. He's still your wealth. Well
buy this, follow me, buy them, there's still your wealth.
Because Elon could lose billions. It's nothing to him, but
you can't lose your fifty thousand you need it.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I had a buddy that put his life savings into
the Trump coin. Oh went from like seventy thousand dollars
to eight thousand. He did It's I said, how much
of your money was in that? He's like ninety five
percent of I'm like, what are you doing? He's a
younger kid, he's like twenty three. But you know what
I see with the younger generation is because they've seen
that the system's kind of rigged.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Now, I mean, what are you gonna do is save
up and buy real estate? No, a starter homes five
hundred and eighty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
My point is this, you're just like you're gonna put
in the stock markets in all time high as of today.
You know, it's like, okay, bencoin's already over one hundred
thousand dollars Bitcoin, you ain't going to buy that.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
And so what they're doing is they're trying to get
lucky with these mean coins.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
But then you have even the President of United States
does a rug pull and all of a sudden, you
know it's the game's rigged. Man, and these younger people,
my heart goes out to him, and they really, more
than ever better learn the system. They better learn the
game because you're gonna lose over and over again if
you don't.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
No doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
And then you know, Rex, I really feel like at
the end of the day, if we know history right,
every great dynasty has had his day.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Bro everyone, and look at the years. You see what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Look, and then what happens, Rex, the top get rich
or richard, a wealth gilt gets so big.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
If we go back and we look at if.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
We look in Europe and we look at the Greeks,
we look at the Romans, the same thing happened. Remember
we got most of our game we use today from them,
So the same thing happened. They pillage, pillage, pillage, and
then the players just shift. You see what I'm saying,
And that's what I see going to happen in Africa,
because in America, once you stop.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Taking care of your citizens, Rick, how can you be
a great nation?
Speaker 4 (42:23):
How You're going to crumble at some point because you're
not taking care of the core of your foundation, and
that is your citizens.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Bro. Yeah, when people are happy, you know, it's one thing.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
But when they're not, when they're struggling and they feel
like they're getting pillaged, that's when the rebellions all start.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah, because I don't even know where we're going.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Bro. It's sad because I just you know, I'm a
man of try to have answers right for things. And
that's why I'm just having an alternative. Why while I'm
talking about Africa and Africa and it's the e merging market.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
I love emerging markets.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
That's why I'm in Perumpt and nobody's in Proumpt but
me as a builder.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
And I'm loving it right.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
Because is finn Incorporate and it's going to be connected
to Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
And it's finna blow up. But see, I like that.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
I'm a pioneer, you see what I'm saying, And that's
how you get it done. You go places nowhere and
want to go. I do the jobs nobody want to do.
But I don't know Rix. I'm trying to put my
finger on it, but I don't think. I don't see
things getting better with AI coming in and all that,
So more jobs are going to get lost.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
So how things are going to get better? Rix? How
we think we're gonna sit here.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
What they're gonna do is they're gonna have They're gonna
get more people, and this we both know.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
But remember what they were saying.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
They said, by twenty thirty thirty nothing and be happy.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
So that's they're playing.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
So I can't see it here in America and think
like they're gonna make sure my children gonna have a future.
They're trying to line it up so my children don't
have nothing and have to depend on them solely to
get what we want, I know.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
And so interesting, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Can see why they call you the street brother mentor Man,
you're a wise man and that you can tell that
you're very well versed and very well so for people
that want to follow you, they want to, you know,
just learn more from you as you're posting and doing
your work and everything you're doing. Where's the best place
for us to send people?
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Man?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
You can follow me on Instagram at Hardy Bay, you know,
at Hardi Bay at Instagram. That's the only you know thing.
I have no Twitter, no Facebook, just Instagram.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
And if you want to go buy the toys, where
do they find those that?
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Oh, they can find them all over, you know, toys
all over.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
You know y'all know fun Copop, you know mind style toys,
you know pop life, you know they're everywhere, the cats.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Out the bag on that.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I love it. Man, Well, I'll have to next time.
I was going to go to Ghana this January. I
had a trip.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I actually had it booked, my flights, but I didn't
realize three or four of the countries I was.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Trying to get in Nigeria, Ghana was one of them.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
You have to milling your visa and then get it
back and so I wasn't able to get it done
in time. And so I'll be hitting you up so
I can go check out that beautiful country Ghana.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
No, definitely, I don't want to just touch bases on this.
You know, I'm supporting you know, diaspora consultants and you
know I kind of put that together. They're for people
to have a good ride in Africa because you know,
when you deal with cultures and different cultures, you know,
like I dealt with in China, Eastern and Western thinking
it's totally different.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
You need someone to be the ason.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
And so you know, if people you know, I have
my own ideas, but people have their own ideas too.
So I started a diasp for consultants to help people
come into Ghana and do business without you know, get
beat over the head because it's uncharted territory and you know,
we all speak English, but we understand it different.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
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Thank you again for listening to the Jimmy Rex Show.
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Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Jimmy Rex Show.
And today on the podcast, I sit down with Hardy Bay.
He is also known as the Street Brother mentor. He
is a partner in one of the largest toy companies
in the entire planet.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's also a.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Developer and a builder and doing some exciting entrepreneurship opportunities
over in Ghana. Currently grew up in Watts. You will
get the story here on the podcast. But this is
an inspirational man, somebody that it's funny every time I
talk and we just see the world the same way.
So I really enjoyed sitting down and chopping it up
with him. So without further ado, let's get to the
podcast with Hardy Bay. But before we do that, let
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bucked up protein. And now let's get to the show. Already,
good to be on the show, man Man, thank you
for having me Rex. Yeah, so so glad to have
you here. So you have a very interesting I guess
(01:24):
it's your moniker, your Instagram handle Street Brother.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Mentor, and I think I want to start with that.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
What is that all about?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So the Street Brother Mentor was to be able to
I'm born and raised.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
And Watts, you know, I come up out of the
Jordan Down Project, ninety fifth and Hickory, so that's my surrounding.
And I wanted to be able to create something to
talk to the common man that come from where I
come from, you know, because sometimes people got to see it.
If you can't see it, you'd be like, Okay, you
come in a suit all the time, whatnot. And a
guy that comes from the street never been in.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
A suit, he can't relate.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So I wanted to create a street Brother mentor, someone
who comes from the streets who have made their way
internationally all around rurald to bring that information back.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, it's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
One of the best forms of intelligence is can you
share a message that everybody receives? I love right, if
you can't speak to the common person. We see this today,
I mean you saw it with It's the difference between
Donald Trump and Mitt Romney, Right, Mitt Romney, if you're
in the bottom half of the quote unquote economic world
or financial world, and you know you just you didn't
relate to that guy at all.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Whereas Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He'll do things and say things that make you realize like, oh,
this guy's want of me. You think that you know
you're not, but it makes you believe that at least,
so you want to be able to listen to the message.
So for you growing up in wats, I mean, were
you there during like the Rodney King ryads and the
whole thing, then yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, yeah, yea.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
How old were you during all that? Ninety two? So
I was about eleven years old ninety two.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I remember, I remember that I went to California for
the first time when I was like twelve years old,
and I was born in eighty one, like similar and
I just remember driving through the street and they had
knocked over a fire hydra and the water was going everywhere.
I just remember thinking, man, this is a different world
over here. But I mean, how crazy was that growing
up in wats during that time.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I mean it was actually real crazy, but you know,
the irony of it, it kind of brought us together,
right because you know, that was the first time that
we witnessed you know, that that incident in America right
on National TV. Right, But this is something we've been
dealing with forever. When I laugh, I'll be telling people like, bro,
it's televised.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I grew up in.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Los Angeles Firestone Sheriff, Like, they are notorious for putting
boot to you what I'm saying, So it's like, what
are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You know here? Right?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
It's just been televised at that time, So it was
a very interesting moment to see it televised and then
to see how everybody react, because it's not like we
didn't know these things was already happening in the community.
It just became televised and intensified. So it was an
interesting time. But yeah, it's it's Los Angeles, bro, So
you know, it gets wild sometime it normally be the
(04:04):
one that kicked things off in the US, and so
to be able to live through that time it was wild, Bro.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And so I mean, yeah, it's so much going on
in California at that time.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You get the O. J.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Simpson stuff and everything else that was going on. So
how'd you end up getting your way out of that?
Because one of the hardest things for people to do
is to change their socioeconomic situation. Right, most people just
staying whatever, you know, environment they're born into. So how
did you How did you be able.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
To escape that?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
So for me, I was able to get some great mentors, Bro,
And that's why I came with that Street brother mentor.
You know, I'm only I'm here because of my mentors.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Man.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I had great mentors to lace me up and give
me the game. And I always remember, it's not where
you started when you finished. So I always always been
that guy to know that this is this wasn't my
end goal, this condition right here by just coming up
out of wats so I already had the mindset to
know that hey, this is not the end. You know,
it's just needed direction and individuals to give us information
(05:05):
that we were not privalent to that can change your life.
And that's what happened. And you know, I have a
seventh great education. Ris I never went to high school.
And so for me, I tell guys all the time
and I just spoke at Temple University in February, and
I tell people all.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
The time, it's like, bro, you know, it's intelligence, right.
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
You can go in a class and you can listen
to the professor and you just remember, you know. But me,
I am a learned man, not a talk man. And
so it's a difference. But that's how I end up.
And you know, one thing about people when they know
you really want it to help you, bro, you.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Know what I'm saying. And it's all about that, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And so I had some great mentors to help me
along the way, and you know, give me a whole
different mindset.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
But yeah, it's fun to teach somebody or to mentor
somebody when they do the things that you're asking them
to know or you're telling them what's going to work
for them. I was on the phone with a guy yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mentor a lot of real estate agents.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You know, that's where I basically made my career and everything.
And it's funny because they ask me what it takes
to sell fifty one hundred homes in a year, and
I lay out the formula. And I do this with
almost every guy that joins my coaching program. And this
is the first dude that's actually done it. And he's
averaging I think eight or nine home sales a month
right now. He's twenty two years old. Twenty two years
(06:18):
old selling eight nine homes a month right now. He's
just absolutely destroying it. And he said, he goes, Jimmy,
I have modeled my business one hundred percent after you.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Everything you taught me to do.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And he's doing things and I teach him all these
little different things that I did. And one of the
things that he talked to me about yesterday, he said, you,
one of the things you said to me was always
make moves that'll benefit you seven to ten years down
the road.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And so he's doing these things today. He's putting it
into place, but so many people do it. And props
for you for having that foresight as well, well, you know,
for me.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Just to build on that a little bit.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
The first first, as soon as I inter with people
and you know, come into contact with him, or I
want my services or I want my information, whatever. The
first thing I tell him be culturable. You see what
I'm saying, because that's what just talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
If Phil Jackson already got the game plan, bro, be coachable.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
You're trying to get somewhere with somebody already been Yeah,
you can remix it a little bit along the way.
But there's only one road to success, but there's many exits, right,
so you choose right.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So for me, you know, that's how I look at it.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I tell people be culchable, and most people are just
not colachable for whatever reason. And we talked about a
lot of athletes, you know, and that's why I like
working with athletes. I like working with military people and whatnot.
Because the discipline you're following me the culchability.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You can't be a superstar if you not coachable. I
don't care how much talent you have.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
So the culchability is the most important thing of that aspect.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So, so what was your first big breaker your first
success in business?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Oh, my first success in business.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
I want to say real estate, you know, real estate
would be my first you know, my first love my
first baby.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You keep first a little bit of background where you
at with real estate today? I know you you were
just talking about new development that you're putting together. How
many properties do you own or have you sold or
developed or whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
So since twenty one, since twenty one, I've been back
in development. I'm a carpeter by trade, ill a local
nine forty four. So I built freeways, dams, water treatment centers,
and that's what got me into the real estate and
so I really loved it. But where I'm at now,
i'm a builder and developer. Also, over the last three years,
(08:28):
I built over fifty five doors. I own probably about
twenty doors as of right now. And so that's where
I'm at in my real estate space. But that how
I got there was I start rehabbing, you know, as
being a carpenter and going in the union learning those trades.
Then I start rehabbing, and I moved to Tennessee. I
(08:48):
was in Memphis for a while and I had bought
fifteen homes free and clear in Memphis, and so that
was kind of like my my claim to fame in
the real estate and then we know eight happened, and
you know, I had to.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Shift, you and me and the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, it was funny as people forget how easy
it was to buy homes back then and so you
could be super aggressive.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It sounds like you were doing the same thing I was.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I owned twelve homes by the time I was twenty six,
and thankfully my mentor came and told me to sell
them before the market crashed. I only ended up getting
stuck with two of them. But it was a wild
time back then.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, No, it was.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It was, and I was blessed too. I didn't get stuck.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I ended up liquid dating and I joined my partners
at Mind Style and China.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Tell me about that, because that's that company blew up
right one of the Are you one of the co
founders at that?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Oh no, I'm not actually one of the co founders.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I came probably about three years after the company had
already started. I'm good friends of mine, you know, Paul
Holbrook and mb Young, you know, they were the founders
stayed with the co founders of that, and I came
along not even knowing, bro, what the hell was going on.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
That's why I tell people, I said, you know, it's
not about your idea It's not about how much money
you got. It's about the people, bro. You know what
I'm saying, People is it? And I knew these guys right,
and I was all in, didn't know a clue. And
remember this is uncharted territories in China at this time.
We're talking about nine twenty ten. It's uncharted.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No one could teach you about it, no one can
share what's going on. You have to believe.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
If you don't believe, you're not going to get it done,
you know. And so I liquidated all my real estate.
I remember talking to Paul. He's like, man, we got
this big thing going on in China, wool you want
to get in. I'm like, hell yeah, because I.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Know the players.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
The players are they're so persistent, they're so focused, they're
so dowed in. I knew we were going to win,
you know. I didn't know how, but I knew we
were going to win. And so I'm like, hey, yeah,
I'm in, bro, you know. And so what I did
I started liquidating my real estate. Liquidated my real estate,
and I prossably put about five hundred thousand into the company.
(10:48):
And so that's how I started. And when I used
to first come bro, like it took us about six
years to really hit bro. That's why I tell people
everybody's not built for business, you know. But everybody felt
like they can get in right, Oh, get in until
they get in the fire, get hot, and then they
get to squiggling and.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The same thing as eighty percent of entrepreneurs probably just
need to go get a job.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Come on, really, Bro, I really bro, And I'm so happy.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I think I reflect back because I was raising money, right,
trying to raise money, and I'm glad I raised some money,
gave money back. I'm glad I didn't raise a lot
because a lot of my friendships would have fell out
because people can't understand six years and then from that
six years, boom we were shipping eighty containers a week.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You said the numbers was stupid.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
He became an owner of that company then, is that yeah?
Part yeah, partner, yes, So how many toys are you
did you? I mean, how many toys are you guys
selling that business?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Millions? Bro, millions?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
We had to one of the top toys and you know,
my partner M D. Young and Brian Marietty, they were
very tight from Funco. You see what I'm saying, I
mean very tight them. God got the coaster deal. That's
the first time I seen the coaster deal. You see
what I'm saying. This deal was rolled on the coaster.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Wow, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
A multimillion dollar deal, one hundred million dollar deal plus
roll on the coaster. You see what I'm saying. But
it's real, it's hand shape, it's integrity, you see. And
that's the that's the school of thought I come from
because I come from the streets. So because you lose
your life playing game, so I bring integrity to the business.
So I watched integrity, integrity at the integrity cause I
tell people all the time, it's that contract is not
(12:20):
gonna save you. If you're gonna rob you, you're gonna
rob you. You see what I'm saying. So you're best
to just focus on the person and make sure he's
a good person.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So how did you guys grow that to such a
giant toy I mean's one of the biggest toy companies
basically in the country at this point.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yah yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
And so we didn't necessarily, you know, necessarily grow fun
cod but we were we were hand in hand with
fun Co and and how our claim to fame was
we took all the pop culture and made it cool
with the nerd stuff, right. And so what we did
was we took every artist, right, So we'll say, let's
(12:53):
say Michael Lyle out of Hong Kong, right, we did
the Michael Loud Mad Hatter Disney, right, So you got
Michael Leile Disney and mind Style, you see that. So
that's how we blew these toys up. Then we did
the Li Lo and Stitch you see. Then like like
we did a lot of things with Ron English, you know.
And so we would take these artists and we would
(13:15):
we would collab them with these brands, and then we
were both produced the product. And that was kind of
like our thing of pushing these things to the next
level and bridging.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
The gap before people were ever doing it.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
It was like, what the hell you're doing? And I
didn't know nothing about toys. I didn't grow up with them,
so I'm like, man toys, But.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Okay, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, it's a fun business to be, you know, involved in,
just because again you're just doing something that brings people joy.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So how did you get involved?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
When we met, we connected over Africa, and the fact
that I've been to you know, almost probably twenty countries
in Africa now, And.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I remember you're a little surprised to hear.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That I knew that I knew the map a little
bit better than most people. And you know, I've planned
all these different trips and gone, and you mentioned that
you're doing some stuff and gone as a little bit
about what you got going.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
On out there.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
So what it got going on in Ghana right now,
I'm in the process of building shade butter factory. And
so just to give you a little in depth about
shade butter. It only grows in the savannah of Africa,
the only place that grows in the world.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Shade butter is now roughly a two point five billion
dollar industry.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
What makes it so popular.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Because you can cook with it, you can put it
in your skin, it has you reap, I mean UV.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Rape protection in it.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
It's just so many different things that scientists are now
figuring out what it can do.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And it's given by God.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Right, So the pharmaceutical companies wanted the bacon companies like
cause it smells like chocolate. So they're kind of putting
it and fusing it into bacon products and things like
that now and so they're like, man, this is a
wonderful thing. And then there's no waste, bro. So from
making shaye all the way to getting the fat off
the shade and then taking that they make shake cakes
(14:54):
with that. They use that as fuel, you see what
I'm saying. And then from the fuel you get ash.
They take that A should make soap, no ways, bro.
And it's the thing that's driving Ghana's northern economy. When
you go to the north, Tamalay and everything, uh why
and you continue to go up in the north. It
drives the economy. Everybody doing Shape. So when I identify
(15:18):
with that, even though I'm a real estate man, you know,
coming out and I could have just came into the
building there, but I said, you know what, we need.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Jobs and we need natural resources. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So I liked the play of the natural resource.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
And so that's what made me identify Shape as my
first thing to do in Africa because I started with
a group and they're still my family. Fire Free Inspiration
reaching everyone Ghana to the moon and we do a
business technology conference, so all of them, all my guys, smartest, Hell,
my guy Alex went to Harvard Business School, Emil they
(15:54):
they went to a pen.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You know what I'm said, These guys are all smart. Bro.
Donovan worked at the Mayor's Office of Philly right now.
All these guys are very smart. However, you know, I
was sharing with them.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Sometimes you put the cart in front of the horse, right,
But they're all tech guys like it worked at Google, Microsoft,
Email is a chemical engineer, you know what I'm saying
and whatnot. And so I was like, yeah, that sounds good,
but we must create the foundation first. And so that's
when I was like, okay, because you know, you know
how tech guys are, Bro, They get so caught up
in the tech, the tech to tech, the tech. But
(16:28):
how we going to sustain tech when we can't even sustain.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Power, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
So sometime we try to bring America to another country
that's not ready for that yet, and you have to
get it prepared. But that's where my building development skills
come in at and so identify that.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And people need jobs, so you start with the jobs first.
So as you start with the jobs and people get jobs.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Then you can tax your citizens and then you can
use those taxes to build your country. So you know,
but if you got poor people, bro, it's not going
to happen. And so that that's what started me. In Africa.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well, in Western Africa, you got a lot of different,
you know, countries. Some of them are very very poor
and then other ones are a little bit more advanced
and everything else. Where's Ghana fit in all this? What
is the biggest struggle that people in ghan.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Are dealing with?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
And I guess, well, I think the biggest struggle people
in Ghana are dealing with, to be honest with you,
is I'm not going to say bad leadership, but that's
what it boils down to. Because jah Muhammad in now
and I think John Mohamma's going to make a difference,
you know, in the country. He's already you know, Ghana
have the best currency right now, beating out the US currency,
(17:35):
you know, and so you know, by little shifts you
I've done, it has prevailed.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
So I would.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Definitely say it's it's it's the deal makers, bro, you
know what I'm saying, because whoever is signing those deals
don't know how to negotiate and they're not making sure
that people get the fair shake.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, and there's a lot of countries trying to siphon
off the essentially.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
All the.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Everything that has value from those countries, right, I mean
African in general. You got China in the US coming in,
trying to get all the resources, trying to get all
the you know, the minerals and all the things that
all these countries have to offer. So is that what
you mean when you say they're just not making good deals?
Is it with the other countries coming in?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, it's what the other country's coming in because you know,
like you know, I'm a candid person. So you know, hey,
you know when we get to talk about the IMF,
the World Bank, right, you know, these things are set
up basically photo briveh. You know because if you read
those contracts, oh man, we'll tear the country up. If
you read those contracts and they say you want our money,
but you can't grow your own food, you can't do this,
you can't do that, you can't do that. So it's
(18:36):
really a usery deal that I'm getting you in and
the top get paid and the people don't get nothing.
And so this has been going on, This cycle has
been going on and on and on and on and on.
You know, what I'm saying, So we can go from
country to country. This game has been played. But that's
that's the issue, and so that's where I come in at, right,
I come in and at it's creating a value, adding
(18:59):
to the value chain. So versus Coco. Let's just just
say Coco coming out of Gana, the average coco work
and make a dollar a day. But then you take
that same coco to Belgium, right, and we create a
candy bar.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
That same candy bar.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Is eight to twelve dollars, right, That same guy who
picked the cocoa can't afford the candy bar, right, But
Belgium has no Coco. So if we change that and
we say hey, we're going to now create finished products
in Africa and sell to the world. Now we can
pay the people more, the environment can grow, you see.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
And so that's all it is.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
It's just changing the dynamic and the shift and saying, hey,
if you want these goods, you can still buy them,
but you're going to buy them at a finished product
or you're going to buy them at mid finished where
where we can get most of the value chain, because
in manufacturing, the raw materials is not where all the
money is it's in the finished product.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And so Africa is the only only content in the
face of the earth that has never had an industrial revolution.
So when I ask people that I bring that to
people's attention, I say, listen, So, who's going to be
the Vanderbilts, who's going to be the Carnegies, who's going
to be the Rockefellers, who's going to be the DuPonts,
who going to be the JP Morrigans of Africa.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
That's how I'm thinking. You see what I'm saying, because
it's never been done, but it will be done.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
And so is that Mostly what you're focusing on is
trying to bring that industrialization to Africa?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Is that what it?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Okay, I'm a factory guy, So you going factories there
in Africa now.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
That I'm building one right now in China.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
That's what we did. So we have over a million
square feet of creative space in China. So I come
from the factory land. That's what we did with Funko.
We produced their products, and we produced products for Disney,
Warner Brothers, Pixar, NBA, Pair of My Pictures, Marvel. So
I understand how that functions and how it works, and
all we have to do is tweak that in Africa.
(20:51):
And it's like this because Africa is the only place
on Earth that has everything it needs. We just watched
what did Trump just do in the Congo between Congo Rwanda?
He squashed that ship. Why Congo is the only place
on Earth with the rare rare metals? Plus China, what
we deal with China. We just signed that deal with
China too. We talk all that. Trump just signed a
deal with China to buy rare earth. China cut us
(21:13):
off from rare earth.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Just see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So pay attention, you feel me? So Africa is next up.
So I'm just early. And you know early makes you wealthy.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's beautiful man.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So what are you what are you doing to position
yourself to be in the right place, with the right
people at the right time when all this happens.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
What kind of you know? What are you doing currently
to be in that spot?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Well, what you know, I'm a I'm a type of guy, rex.
Why I just I don't audition, you know, So I
spend my own money. So what I've been doing is
just spending my own dollars getting it done. We have
a free trade license now and with the free trade
license allow you to do import export duty free into
the country. So I got I just finished acre, I
(21:57):
mean walling in five acres nineteen thousand, seven hundred and
forty eight bricks manpower done by hand. That's Africa. And
so so that's where I'm at now. But you know
my partner, Princecita, his uncle is John Muhammad, the president
right now. Wow, you know, so we got our man.
(22:17):
You know, we got our man. So I got the
next you know, four or five years to really make
my mark, because you know, Africa is one thing, you
know where they like to see things and see the
Chinese coming in with the money, the Lebanese coming in
with the money. I'm a black American bro. In case
you don't know, I don't have a trust fund behind me.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I'm the first generation of my money. You see what
I'm saying. So I have to do a lot of things.
It takes me longer, you know, but it builds me
and makes me a better person. Also, where you get
this guy who has so much grit because.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
He's done it by himself, for so long.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, I mean that's an advantage of growing up, you
know the way that you did, right, you learn the skills.
I mean, you can't teach those kind of people skills
and social you know, dynamics that you can learn just
growing up in the situation that you did.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir. And I'm aligning myself.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I'm not totally aligning myself with government because you know,
you got to be careful with that, right.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Because we know it gets sticky.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I'm a businessman first, you know, before anything, and so
for me is that I go demonstrate and then I
make governments listen. You see what I'm saying, because if
you go just talking, they not listening, you fall on
deaf ears. But when I go build this factory.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
And I hire a thousand people, now you're listening, you understand.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
So that's my play, even though I have all the
pieces to the puzzle, but you have to finish. You
have to be able to come in with power, with strength,
versus you coming in talking. Africa don't respect talk, you know,
because people writing checks. You need a million dollars just
to invest in Africa as a formula, just to go there,
(23:53):
bro to even do business.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Is there a lot of Americans right now investing in
Africa and trying to build businesses there.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Well, there's there's not many Americans. There's Lebanese, They're Chinese.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Americans, China.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
China has kind of been working on Africa all the
different countries for a good decade and a half now.
They've been building ports and bridges and everything just to
get their influence out.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
It's not many. You find some Black Americans there. I
do find some Americans there. I'm not saying that they're
not there, but we kind of slow, bro, we kind
of slow.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
To the draw. Americas are the least travel people in
the face of Earth?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Are they really?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Was?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Because they go state to state a lot too though, right, And.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I'm saying we at least people passports, but we think
we know it all.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Imagine that, Well, it is fascin I mean, one thing,
it's like if somebody's like, oh, I'm gonna go visit
the United States, It's like you could literally go to
fifty countries and get fifty experiences. Right Whereas you know,
I was looking at a trip I'm headed this week
to Spain, and I was looking at a few places
I could bounce while I'm over there, And I was
looking at like Monaco for a day, and I was
looking at go into Malta for a couple of days.
(24:56):
And you know, it's just it's so easy to bounce around. Yeah,
everything's an hour away, like a hour and a half.
So well, and so I guess what lessons have you
learned that you you know, uh are implementing that you
could teach younger people in this podcast? Somebody you know
maybe comes from a situation like yourself. They come from
a background where not a lot of people are thinking.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Of the way that you do.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
What what would you advise a younger person? What would
you mentor a younger person right now?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
To be honest, you know, you know, find your passion,
you know, find your passion what makes you tick and
and and be original. Bro, Like everyone's trying to be
a different version of somebody else.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
The best thing you can do is be the best
version of yourself.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
And then just understand that you know, there's only one
role to success, and there's many exits, and so when
you embark on a journey, you know you can only
lose if you quit. So no one could tell you that,
oh well, you're not successful yet. Who determines that, who
determines when you post to hit, and who determines success? Right,
everyone's success is different. So I'll say, you know, block
(25:59):
out all to chatter, stay off social media, listen to
the drama. You know, because people start to social media
is kind of like poorn, right, Like people start to
think they can do things and think people are really
living these lives and all this is smoking mirrors, a
lot of it. Ninety percent of it is smoking mirrors,
and so you know, like it's just don't feed into that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
That was one thing that I would say, because you know,
you live in a world now where everything is artificial
and you damn there can't tell what's real what's fake.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, And one thing that I really like what you're doing.
One of the reasons I want to have you on
the podcast. I feel like, you know, especially in the
black culture, it's they need to be looking up to
more people like you that are out there building businesses,
doing these things, going to Ghana and like really showing
what it looks like to build a successful business life.
And I feel like they prop up too often. Maybe
you can correct me on this, but I feel like
(26:50):
they prop up way too much, just the athletes and
the musicians and people that are maybe noisier but aren't
really creating as much value. And so that's why one
of the reasons why I really like what you're doing,
because this is, you know, the way that you change
the lives of all the inner city type kids is
to be able to help teach them business principles and
how to go out and build something like you are.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
No.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
No, I look, I agree with you, bro, because it's
this is what it has been you had. I can't
blame them because America did not didn't do nothing but
prop up black entertainers, bro, not black scientists.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You think you think they did it on purpose?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I do.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I think they did it on purpose, yeah, Bro, because
you got to remember, just like Africa, it was only
used for raw resources, these athletes are used to entertain Bro.
It's it's fucking Caesar all over again, right, So, and
so you get caught up in that. That's why a
kid can tell me everything about where this basketball player
went where he went, but he can't tell me nothing
(27:48):
about himself, right because he don't know self.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
So you're always.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Focused on other people's business, and so how do you
change that, How do you get them to quit looking
up to just the athletes and the entertainers and focus
more on themselves. I think that, you know, that's a
good question. I think they just need more exposure. So
for like me, rex If, like I always tell people
when people when I hear people got skinned scammed and
stuff like well you got scammed, I say, well, did
you see the process of what this guy.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Was doing before you gave him money? Right?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Or you just saw him in his fancy stuff? You
saw him everywhere doing all.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
This stuff and you just assumed he was.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Anybody that's doing it, they want to show you the process.
They want to make sure that you see their success
because the money is just a byproduct of what we do.
So I think it's more exposure, the more we expose
them to individuals like myself. And that's why I really
I was talking to my boy Xavier about this of
kind of like trying to put something together and my
(28:43):
boy Witch, he used to play for Tennessee, about putting
something together for these athletes, because if the athletes have
the voice and they can persuade, if I can connect
with them, you see what I'm saying, and have the
voice together. They don't have to speak, but for me
to have the voice on their platform, because they have
the balls, we can.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Maybe get something done. You know.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And even for them, I'm into control. Recuse, I'm not
into money. I've been making money a long time and
money is just one aspect of it. Control is another right,
and control is the real play, not money. And so
for me is to say, hey, hey, broh, why why
you're not getting into like case support, like you your
real estate guy. Why these athletes not owning you know,
(29:25):
a thousand doors? You know what I'm saying, two thousand doors, right,
you can't get counseled. I don't care what you say.
And two thousand people ain't moving out. Listen, I lived
in America all my life. You wanted racists up like
the landlords we had? Did we move out?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Hell?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Now, what I'm saying, we need a place to live.
So you can't get counseled. But when you only be
an entertainer, you end up in that field.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Where one thing, one thing, they don't like you do this,
you do that, and that's another thing.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I think they be kind of nervous too.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Reck You see what I'm saying, because it's it's unspoking
words up there that you know you play games if
you want to, you won't be playing on this court again.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
And I think they don't want to trade in the
money for what you got to do. But I stand
on principle, right because I built mine. You see what
I'm saying. I'm the boss, you see, and so for me,
I don't want nothing from nobody else.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So I speak the truth. Right. If that ain't what
you want to hear, please stay away from me.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, I've just fascinated with the cultural dynamics of the
United States, right, Like you see these cities like Singapore
and you know, even like Shanghai and some of these
other cities where and you kind of look at it.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
You're like, gosh, why why are.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
So many cities in America dilapidated? How come so many
of them are run down? I mean, you see, you know,
you grew up in California. I was watching the thing
on TikTok today. It was just showing a video of California.
It's just almost people say everywhere, and it's like why
can't we build up American cities like this?
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You know?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Why can't we?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I mean I was recently just went to Milwaukee, in
Saint Louis and Cleveland, and it's like I'm looking at
these cities and you're.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Sitting there going Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
If we wanted to, we could make every city in
America look like these really nice cities. I think or
been said. We've sent our money for wars and bullshit
and all this other stuff that's going on, and you
have to like start the question, you know. And I'm
just a guy that questions everything. So I'm like, they
don't want to fix these seems. They don't want to
help the black man. They don't want to do that,
and so that's why I'm like, it's kind of I
don't even know what to say about other than it's
(31:16):
just you see that the game is rigged.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And they're not trying to fix it.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
No.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
No, in Wrech, like like, listen, a wise man told me.
He said, listen, well you can send fifty billion to
another country to go to war.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
That mean your taxes are too high.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
So it's a fat bro because you could take that
same fifty million.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
We can I mean.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Fifty billion million, and we can change our country, right, right,
But we don't.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
But we'll say this is.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Somebody for free, we get nuting in return.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Well, somebody getting something, we not getting it to American people.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
But I think that we have lost our way of
the people.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I remember, I remember, you know, Roosevelt was the people man, right,
he created our labor laws and all that. Before that,
no one gave the damn about the common man, right,
and Roosevelt came along, right. And also what came along
is you know, contributing to these campaigns. Right, you can
only contribute about two hundred and fifty thousand to a campaign.
You see, they change the rules right, unlimited amount. Why
(32:09):
would you do that, Rex, Why would you change the
rules to allow anybody to get elected, to be able
to take unliving amount of money from anybody?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Why would you do?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
They want to keep the power, They want to keep
the money. Frong.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Hey, look at ain't rocket science to me? You see
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
And what we really have to look at is our corporations. Right,
America's bought.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Bro. If we sitting if you're really sitting in America.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Today's time, and you don't know this you just just foolish, bro,
because at the end of the day, look around you.
Every politician got thirteen to fifteen lobbyists, right, You don't
think they're writing checks and they getting well, you don't
write a check. You sitting at home complaining and what's
going on. But you're not writing checks. You're not truly
getting involved. Because this is what it is. We live
(32:50):
in a capitalist society, bro, So I understand for what
it is. The United States of America is a corporation.
In a corporation design to make money. So if you
don't understand that, not to take care of their people,
who is the fiduciary obligation to It's just a shareholders
of any corporation recks, not the employees. They don't be like, oh,
(33:12):
you go down and give that God raised. They make
sure that them shareholders is taking care of That's the
whole resear So when employees don't get what they what
they feel they deserve or whatnot, or the CEO makes
sixty million and you only make sixty thousand. You see
what I'm saying, buddy, The people who took the risks,
that's who they're giving the reward to. And that's just
how business works. So I don't blame America, you see
(33:34):
what I'm saying. I just think people need to understand
it better. And so if you don't understand it, yes,
it looks like it's foul, but they're doing exactly what
they supposed to do take care of their shareholders.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, yes, you know it is. And that's one of
the things that I realized.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I once I realized the game was rigged, I said, okay,
I just need to make sure that it works in
my favor. I mean, look, there's no other way to
say it. You know, the game's rigged, it might as
well work for me. And that's kind of how it
built my life to try to work that way. And
it's fortunate. But you know, I think it's important people
listening that they realize as like, look, this game is
not meant.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
To be fair. No, it's not, and it's not fair hello.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And so all you can do is, you know, build businesses,
build up your status, build up your income. Whatever you
need to do to win the game, you got to
and you got to understand the game. You got to
know the rules of the game. It's like we've got
to go play football. You know, if you don't know
the rules of the game, it's going to be really
hard to win. And the same thing with money in general.
Like money, they've made the financial system is complicated as
possible for the everyday man, so that he just gives
(34:30):
us money to.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
The local stockbroker, the local person.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yes, and then everybody else that really understands how the
money game works is just printing money over here on
the side. But if you don't know the rules of
the game, I always tell people if I say certain words,
like if I say what's in annuity and you can't
explain to me? Or I say, hey, well how does
a cap rate work? And you can't break that down
for me. You don't understand the rules of the game. No,
And so it's your job to understand better the game
(34:52):
that you're playing, or you have to just accept your
faith that you're never going to win the game.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
That part right there, But you know, to build back
on what you're saying, no one rules it. My minitory
is to tell me I was about twenty twenty one
years old. He said, John, you know why most people
don't win?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I said, why?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
He said, they're playing football with baseball rules wondering why
they can't win. You see what I'm saying, They don't
understand the rules of the game. Like I've been studying
all the way back to Alan Greenspan, right so to
Berninki to Pole now right, So I've been watching these guys.
And I remember watching Alan Greenspan back then because no
one went to prison for the old a shit.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Lehman brothers went down all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
No one went to prison, right, So I was watching
and he set out his mouth, he said, fraud is
a part of the system.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
If we don't have fraud, we don't have a system.
So I'm like people, so everybody's like.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Oh, fraud they created.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
You see what I'm saying, because this system can't run
without it, like debt, this is a debt society.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Well you see what they You know, Elon mus just
got his team. Man, they went and just did this
whole thing with Dodge. They exposed all these things and
then what did they do, ye nothing.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
They literally like put them all back into the bell.
It's like, wait, now it's even worse because now we
see just how bad it is.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I've got to be honest, I've never wanted to pay taxes,
lest in my entire life. I'm just sitting here looking
at it. But then I also just said, this is
the system we're in. And you know what it's like
being in America in twenty twenty five. If you've learned
the game, there's probably no better place to live in
the history of mankind. I mean, it really is. Last
night I was hungry. I ordered barbecue at my house
(36:24):
in twenty minutes. You know, I have to get up
off my damn couch. I went for a walk this
morning for a half hour without shoes on. You know
what I mean. I'm just saying, the system, when it
works for he works for you, right right, I know.
And so it's like as bad as it is, it's
like I don't have to worry about every single problem.
I can be mad that they're sending tens of billions
of dollars. And here's the funniest part. I just saw
(36:46):
that they just put a new bill together to send
all this money to Gaza to rebuild it. It's like
it was the Americans that paid for the missiles that
destroyed Gaza.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Now they're going to send it over there and rebuild it.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
And it's like they're gonna It's like we're literally paying
for both sides.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
You're like, what is going on? What is life?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Bro? Make it makes sense?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
But this is this is you know, you know when
you think about it, Rex, you know, I'm not I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I'm the type of god not emotional, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I am thankful for America for giving me my citizenship,
you know, and being born here. You know, however, I
see the view different because I also lived a different America, right,
And I always tell people this, So we got to
be careful. We live to different Americas.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
And so I understand that I used to always tell people,
you know, I used to go back. You know, I'm
just historian, bro, I love history, right. And so Jago
Hoover was the was the director of the FBI. He
created the FBI. He was the director until he died.
So he was a dictator basically. So, and he had memoirs, right.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
And these are facts.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
People can look this up to this day. And he
had memoirs. And you know what was one of his
biggest fears was he said, the biggest threat to American
society is black people organizing by all calls do not
let them organize. And this is why, no matter if
you're radical Malcolm X, you get your head blown off.
No matter if you were peaceful, Martin Luther King, you
(38:11):
get your head blown off, because it's about organization. If
they organize, they're going to do something that we don't
want them to do and we're not going to be
able to control them. So therefore keep them right. So
it's all part of system. Like I said, you can
google this stuff. You see what I'm saying. So when
that's in the foundation of your law enforcement, how you
gonna tell me Americas for me?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
You know?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
And I actually I've heard that before.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Jander Hoover was one of the more racist dudes and
in the history of the country.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Are law enforcement I know.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I mean it is still heat.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
They still run his plenty start if you actually go
listen to the words of like Malcolm X. I actually
like him more than Martin Luther King Junior. It's my
own guy, but that's I'm kind of like him more.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yeah, but they took him out real quick. You know,
they're just like But the point of it is is
that you're not wrong. And what they'll do is they'll
prop up people that teach black people that they're victims,
that they need to rely upon the government.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I mean, that's what you see over and over again.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
You know the people that they prop up, and we
don't need to go and know who they are today,
but there's plenty of them out there, and that's what
they teach because if they can do that, they can
continue to control you.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
If you're a victim to the system, the system then
controls you.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
I was talking on the phone with a lady about welfare, right,
you know, I'm not on the phone on the plane
when I was just coming to Salt Lake and she
was going for a psychology she was getting their master's
in psychology, and so we're talking.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
She wants to be a social worker.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
She worked at a school, and I was like, you
know what, you know, we're talking about welfare. I said, well,
you know the thing is that welfare was also the
bribe to keep you a slave. So anything you take
out of the way man domesticate it. It don't want
to work no more, It don't want to eat no more.
You see what I'm saying. And that was by design,
because once again, Rex, if you start to make money,
you're empowered now.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yes, well, and so the second that somebody's giving you everything,
you lose that self confidence that comes from knowing that
you can do it on your own, Like it's the
one thing you can't give up to the system. When
COVID came out and they were sending everyone eight thousand
dollars checks, I didn't cash money because I said, I'm like,
I don't want to take anything from the system. Come on,
And it was just I could have just cashed it.
I'm money easy, but I was like, I'm not doing that.
(40:10):
I'm not doing it. I don't want to take any
money from them because I am a part. I am
free of that slavery, which is government assistance.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
And we printed more money, and everybody knew that it
was gonna end up in the United State in the hands.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
The whole thing was designed to end up in the
hands of the top people within six months.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
It was all I did.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Would destroy the bottom half of the middle class. Come on,
That's all it did.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
And even I played a part of that too.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
All these people following elon Nam, I'll be telling them, Oh,
I'm gonna buy doorage, I'm going to buy that. Oh yeah,
buy doorge and buy them. He's still your wealth. Well
buy this, follow me, buy them, there's still your wealth.
Because Elon could lose billions. It's nothing to him, but
you can't lose your fifty thousand you need it.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I had a buddy that put his life savings into
the Trump coin. Oh went from like seventy thousand dollars
to eight thousand. He did It's I said, how much
of your money was in that? He's like ninety five
percent of I'm like, what are you doing? He's a
younger kid, he's like twenty three. But you know what
I see with the younger generation is because they've seen
that the system's kind of rigged.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Now, I mean, what are you gonna do is save
up and buy real estate? No, a starter homes five
hundred and eighty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
My point is this, you're just like you're gonna put
in the stock markets in all time high as of today.
You know, it's like, okay, bencoin's already over one hundred
thousand dollars Bitcoin, you ain't going to buy that.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
And so what they're doing is they're trying to get
lucky with these mean coins.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
But then you have even the President of United States
does a rug pull and all of a sudden, you
know it's the game's rigged. Man, and these younger people,
my heart goes out to him, and they really, more
than ever better learn the system. They better learn the
game because you're gonna lose over and over again if
you don't.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
No doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
And then you know, Rex, I really feel like at
the end of the day, if we know history right,
every great dynasty has had his day.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Bro everyone, and look at the years. You see what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Look, and then what happens, Rex, the top get rich
or richard, a wealth gilt gets so big.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
If we go back and we look at if.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
We look in Europe and we look at the Greeks,
we look at the Romans, the same thing happened. Remember
we got most of our game we use today from them,
So the same thing happened. They pillage, pillage, pillage, and
then the players just shift. You see what I'm saying,
And that's what I see going to happen in Africa,
because in America, once you stop.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Taking care of your citizens, Rick, how can you be
a great nation?
Speaker 4 (42:23):
How You're going to crumble at some point because you're
not taking care of the core of your foundation, and
that is your citizens.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Bro. Yeah, when people are happy, you know, it's one thing.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
But when they're not, when they're struggling and they feel
like they're getting pillaged, that's when the rebellions all start.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah, because I don't even know where we're going.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Bro. It's sad because I just you know, I'm a
man of try to have answers right for things. And
that's why I'm just having an alternative. Why while I'm
talking about Africa and Africa and it's the e merging market.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
I love emerging markets.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
That's why I'm in Perumpt and nobody's in Proumpt but
me as a builder.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
And I'm loving it right.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
Because is finn Incorporate and it's going to be connected
to Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
And it's finna blow up. But see, I like that.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
I'm a pioneer, you see what I'm saying, And that's
how you get it done. You go places nowhere and
want to go. I do the jobs nobody want to do.
But I don't know Rix. I'm trying to put my
finger on it, but I don't think. I don't see
things getting better with AI coming in and all that,
So more jobs are going to get lost.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
So how things are going to get better? Rix? How
we think we're gonna sit here.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
What they're gonna do is they're gonna have They're gonna
get more people, and this we both know.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
But remember what they were saying.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
They said, by twenty thirty thirty nothing and be happy.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
So that's they're playing.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
So I can't see it here in America and think
like they're gonna make sure my children gonna have a future.
They're trying to line it up so my children don't
have nothing and have to depend on them solely to
get what we want, I know.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
And so interesting, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Can see why they call you the street brother mentor Man,
you're a wise man and that you can tell that
you're very well versed and very well so for people
that want to follow you, they want to, you know,
just learn more from you as you're posting and doing
your work and everything you're doing. Where's the best place
for us to send people?
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Man?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
You can follow me on Instagram at Hardy Bay, you know,
at Hardi Bay at Instagram. That's the only you know thing.
I have no Twitter, no Facebook, just Instagram.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
And if you want to go buy the toys, where
do they find those that?
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Oh, they can find them all over, you know, toys
all over.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
You know y'all know fun Copop, you know mind style toys,
you know pop life, you know they're everywhere, the cats.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Out the bag on that.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I love it. Man, Well, I'll have to next time.
I was going to go to Ghana this January. I
had a trip.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I actually had it booked, my flights, but I didn't
realize three or four of the countries I was.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Trying to get in Nigeria, Ghana was one of them.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
You have to milling your visa and then get it
back and so I wasn't able to get it done
in time. And so I'll be hitting you up so
I can go check out that beautiful country Ghana.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
No, definitely, I don't want to just touch bases on this.
You know, I'm supporting you know, diaspora consultants and you
know I kind of put that together. They're for people
to have a good ride in Africa because you know,
when you deal with cultures and different cultures, you know,
like I dealt with in China, Eastern and Western thinking
it's totally different.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
You need someone to be the ason.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
And so you know, if people you know, I have
my own ideas, but people have their own ideas too.
So I started a diasp for consultants to help people
come into Ghana and do business without you know, get
beat over the head because it's uncharted territory and you know,
we all speak English, but we understand it different.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I love it, man, So thank you so much, Pleasure Rex.
Thank you again for listening to the Jimmy Rex Show.
And if you liked what you heard, please like and subscribe.
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Speaker 2 (45:41):
The type of people on this podcast. It's going to
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Speaker 1 (45:45):
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Oh said, well, all you do is you come in,
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