September 15, 2025 • 30 mins
Christian Nationalism: Patriotism or Threat to America? | Karel Cast 25-113
In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the government and right-wing media call him a “true patriot.” But what if he wasn’t? What if Christian Nationalism—the ideology he championed—is actually un-American, contradicting the very principles of the Founding Fathers?
Karel takes a hard look at how Christian Nationalism has been weaponized to discriminate against LGBTQ people, women, immigrants, Muslims, and anyone outside their narrow worldview. Is this really patriotism—or the perversion of freedom and democracy?
Meanwhile, Kirk’s followers claim to support free speech, yet silence critics with doxxing, firings, and violent threats. The hypocrisy couldn’t be clearer.
Does Charlie Kirk’s death prove it’s time for America to divide into separate alliances—the free states vs. the hateful ones? The Founders left us the tools. The question is: do we have the courage?
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In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the government and right-wing media call him a “true patriot.” But what if he wasn’t? What if Christian Nationalism—the ideology he championed—is actually un-American, contradicting the very principles of the Founding Fathers?
Karel takes a hard look at how Christian Nationalism has been weaponized to discriminate against LGBTQ people, women, immigrants, Muslims, and anyone outside their narrow worldview. Is this really patriotism—or the perversion of freedom and democracy?
Meanwhile, Kirk’s followers claim to support free speech, yet silence critics with doxxing, firings, and violent threats. The hypocrisy couldn’t be clearer.
Does Charlie Kirk’s death prove it’s time for America to divide into separate alliances—the free states vs. the hateful ones? The Founders left us the tools. The question is: do we have the courage?
The Karel Cast is supported by your donations at patreon.com/reallykarel. Please like, subscribe, and share at youtube.com/reallykarel. The show streams live Monday–Thursday at 10:30am PST and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeart, Spreaker, TikTok, and Instagram.
#ChristianNationalism, #CharlieKirk, #PoliticalViolence, #AmericanDemocracy, #SeparationOfChurchAndState, #LGBTQRights, #ReligiousExtremism, #FreedomOfSpeech, #PoliticalDivision, #USPolitics, #BreakingNews, #DemocracyInCrisis, #HumanRights, #EqualityForAll, #ConstitutionalRights, #TheKarelCast, #PoliticalAnalysis, #FaithAndPolitics, #CurrentEvents, #AmericanHistory
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Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-karel-cast--1368295/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Show time is here. No time to fear. Corralla is
so near because show time is here. So on with
the show. Let's give it a go. Corilla is the
one that you need to know. Now, it's show tide.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, today's show. It's gonna be a rough one because
it could get me into some trouble. So we're gonna
talk about Charlie Kirk and the aftermath of the shooting,
and some of you may not like it. So here
we Go could be my last show.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Uncensored, unfiltered, fun hinged. It's the Corall Cast.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Listen daily on your favorite streaming service. Is the Crowdcast.
I am Correll. It is Monday. What's the date, September fifteenth?
And here I am so glad you are joining me.
What a week? What a week? And what a weekend.
(01:14):
I'm not going to pretend that everything is okay in America.
It's not. Including with my podcast. I keep having these
white flashes that telestream can't seem to get rid of.
But that being said, what I'm going to say today,
the right does not want me to say. Even though
they are mourning the loss of someone that preached for
(01:34):
free speech, the right does not want free speech. The
right only wants free speech when it's speech that they
agree with. If it is speech they disagree with, they
want the people punished. Today, another Washington the only the
last black opinion columnist for the Washington Post, got fired
(01:57):
today because of comments made after the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
Not the only person to be fired based on this.
So I last week and this weekend struggled. I will
tell you I struggled for two reasons. Number one, I
don't want to bring upon violence upon myself. Oh hi, hummingbird,
(02:21):
I don't really don't. I don't want to bring upon
violence or doxing. I don't want to be a target
for MAGA. I don't care enough about America in its
current carnation to die for MAGA or at their hands. Also,
I don't believe America is going to make it. I
(02:45):
think we are watching the downfall and breaking apart of
the United States Union, and so I think putting any
effort into quote saving America is misplaced. The Democrats are
not powerful enough, and they won't say what needs to
(03:06):
be said because they're afraid, like everyone else, has become
And that's how the right wins by making the left
so afraid. All they have done since the shooting of
Charlie Kirk, before they even knew who did it, was
vilify the left, call the left terrorist, say the left
(03:27):
are responsible for all the violence in the world, to
say everything that is contrary to the truth, because that's
what they do. They project. They say things like Trump
derangement syndrome when they're the ones deranged for voting for
a sexual predator felon. They say one thing and completely
(03:52):
mean another, and they project what the other side. In
other words, if they're evil, they say the other side
is evil. And so they have tried to make this
about trans people. Oh, he's dating a trans person. He
once met a trans person on the subway. The fact
is the shooting was done by a white, middle class
(04:14):
raised Republican religious conservative. That's who pulled the trigger, if
you believe their narrative, which I do not. Now Charlie
Kirk was an avowed Christian nationalist, all right. He was
(04:36):
an avowed Christian nationalist. And yet they want Congress which
is holding a moment of silence again. Today, the Vice
President of the United States is hosting Charlie Kirk's podcast today.
Can you imagine if Rachel Maddow got killed and Kamala
(04:57):
Harris had gone and hosted her TV show. Can you
imagine what the right would have said or done? And
yet a vice president who is supposed to be the
vice president of all Americans is going to host one
of the most racist, divisive, homophobic, anti woman, anti Muslim
brands that there is. It speaks volumes. And Charlie Kirk
(05:27):
was an American, He was not a patriot. Our founders
would denounce Charlie Kirk. How do I know? I asked
chat GPT, and I'm going to read you what the
non emotional large language model said when I asked it
(05:49):
about Charlie Kirk and Christian nationalist. You're not gonna believe
what chat GPT said to me.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
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Speaker 2 (06:11):
L dot Com.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Show Time is here. No time to fear. Corell is
so near because show time is here, So on with
the show. Let's give it a go. Corell is the
one that you.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Need to know, all right before I read you what
Chad GPT had to say about Charlie Kirk. Let me
just say this, The notion that you or I are
supposed to mourn his passing and that we are being
bullied into being quiet about this is an American okay,
(06:47):
just is Charlie Kirk was an enemy of America. I
that's just a fact, and I'll tell you why. But
if you don't like that fact, you know what. But
I did hear a great quote. If you say hateful
things in your life, expect hateful things to be said
(07:12):
when you die. If you say kind and loving things
in your life, expect kind and loving things to be
said when you die. Charlie Kirk used the US Constitution
to spit on America, and I'm sorry if that upsets you.
(07:34):
I'm sorry if you think it's too soon after his murder.
I don't want any American to die of gun violence, period, period.
But Charlie Kirk was okay with Americans dying of gun violence.
So Charlie Kirk's followers are being hypocrites when they get
(07:55):
angry about him dying from gun violence when he himself
said that empathy was a bad thing and that there
was an amount of acceptable deaths from guns in the
United States in order to keep the Second Amendment. Those
are his words. So Charlie Kirk was an avowed Christian nationalist.
(08:19):
So I put the question to chat GPT, and I said,
our founders were very clear about a separation of church
and state. Charlie Kirk was an avowed Christian nationalist. So
was Charlie Kirk an American? I asked a non biased,
(08:44):
large language model that question. Here's what it said. Our
founders were crystal clear there must be a wall of
separation between church and state. Jefferson said it, Madison warned
about it, and the First Amendment guarantees it. Charlie Kirk
called himself a Christian nationalist. Let's be clear, that is
(09:08):
an American. This is chat GPT speaking, by the way,
Because Christian nationalism tries to take one religion and make
it the government's guiding force. That's exactly what the founders
fought against. They didn't want kings, they didn't want priest
running government. They wanted a secular republic where all face
(09:31):
or no face were equal under the law. So if
you call yourself a Christian nationalist, you're not defending America,
you're betraying it. Again. Chat GPT not me. The Founders
were explicit about how the separation of church and state
(09:52):
and Christian nationalism run counter to that vision what the
founders said. The First Amendment in seventeen ninety one says
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. This means the government
cannot establish or endorse a state religion, nor prevent people
(10:17):
from practicing their faith, faith or not. Thomas Jefferson in
eighteen oh two said in his letter to the Danbury
Baptist he referred to the wall of separation between church
and state. James Madison, the father of the Constitution, said
he warned that religion and government intertwined would corrupt both
(10:43):
Christian nationalism versus American principles. Christian nationalism seeks to merge
religious ideology, specifically a conservative brand of Christianity, with government
power that directly contradicts the founder's intent. They wanted a
pluristic republic where government does not privilege one faith over another.
(11:07):
By defining elevating Christianity as the official or dominant ideology
in governance, it is un American because it undermines the
secular framework they built. Why the distinction matters. The founders
were not anti religion, many were personally religious, but they
(11:27):
understood that for liberty to flourish, no one religion could
dominate government. Christian nationalism erodes freedoms for minorities, religious and
non religious, while American's founding principle was individual liberty protected
from religious coercion. So yes, in answer to your question,
(11:51):
by the founder's own words and the constitution they created,
Christian nationalism is un American. It's a betrayal of the
secular republic they deliberately designed. Therefore, and this is chat GPT.
If Christian nationalism is Unamerican and Charlie Kirk was a
(12:15):
proud Christian nationalist, Charlie Kirk was an American. And we
have our Congress and our president and our vice president
and everyone on the right praising someone who by definition
was an American. Now you can blame me for bringing
(12:37):
this up. You can hate that I am exercising my
First Amendment right by telling you that Christian nationalists are
un American. They are not patriots. They are the opposite
of patriots. They are enemies of the constitution. The founder said,
(12:57):
if you are an enemy of the Constitution. You should
be tried for treason, and we know what the punishment
for that is. Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be assassinated.
No American deserves to be assassinated from a gun in
the hands of a nut period, none, nobody. But he
(13:23):
was not a patriot. He was not a good American.
And I refuse to sit silent while everyone whitewashes his legacy.
His legacy is vitriol, hatred, homophobia, transphobia, anti woman, anti gay, xenophobic,
(13:44):
anti Muslim, anti immigrant. That is not a good American.
That is not a true American, That is not a warrior.
And as his wife stood in front of a camera
and said, you don't know what you've unleashed. Who is
she threatening? Who is she threatening Americans? That's who Americans
(14:09):
who don't line up in goosestep right behind them and
their Unamerican ideology. Now, maybe this will be the last
show I do. Maybe I don't want to talk about
this stuff anymore. Maybe I've had enough. But to sit
here and watch a nation be forced into mourning someone
(14:33):
who was an American is disgusting. And to not hear
one news outlet bring up the fact that Christian nationalism
directly goes against the Constitution of the United States, and
that anyone that purports to be a Christian nationalist is
(14:56):
not a patriot by definition. It's all in the original documents,
even chat Gptinos. So why doesn't CNN, Why does an MSNBC,
Why doesn't Fox, and why doesn't MAGA. We had a
seated president when asked, how do we bring the country together?
(15:19):
The right has violence, the left has violence. How do
we stop this and bring the America together? He said
he didn't care. He didn't care. That's what the seeded
president said about bringing the nation together. He didn't care.
Those are his words. He is an American. Donald Trump
(15:44):
is the most Unamerican president we have ever had, and
he supports Christian nationalism, which is an enemy of the
United States because it's subverts and goes against our content institution.
And that's a fact, and that's a fact period. Jesus
(16:08):
did not push what Charlie Kirk was selling. Jesus would
love gay people, trans people, Jesus would love women, Jesus
would forgive, Jesus would not judge. Jesus would feed the
poor house, the homeless, Jesus would welcome immigrants with open arms.
(16:36):
Jesus was kind and loving and non judgmental. Jesus was
about honoring thyself and thy neighbor. Jesus was not hatred, bigotry, division.
Jesus would not push his ideology on anyone that didn't
(16:59):
want to hear it. Jesus would denounce people like Charlie Kirk.
Jesus would denounce Donald Trump. Jesus would denounce the organized
religions of the United States of America because Jesus was
(17:22):
a rebel. Jesus was an outcast. Jesus was not part
of government or the establishment. Jesus was the enemy of
government and the establishment because he spoke about inclusion and compassion.
(17:42):
He spoke about love and unity. He was not about
power and wealth and empire expansion. That is not who
this fictitious creature named Jesus was. If you believe he existed,
I do not believe he existed. But if you believe
(18:03):
he existed, then he was not what they're preaching. And
if you believe in the United States, if you believe
in the Founders, if you believe in the Constitution, then
you cannot support Christian nationalists or people like Charlie Kirk
(18:25):
because they go against the Constitution. That does not mean
you assassinate them, and it's horrible that we even have
to put that in there. That does not mean that
you kill them. It means you do not give them
(18:45):
power in government. That's what it means. Oh, you can
be a Christian and you can spout your Christian values,
but not from the White House, not from the floor
of Congress. That's the difference. That's the difference. So to
(19:08):
mourn an enemy of the people, by definition, Christian nationalism
is an enemy of the people. It is un American.
And to mourn a Christian nationalist in the halls of
government is ridiculous. And to tell real patriots, people that
believe in the Constitution, people that believe in freedom of
(19:32):
and from religion, people that believe in equality and diversity,
people that believe in immigrants' rights and due process, to
tell those people that they're wrong for not mourning the
loss of the leader of an un American movement, that's
(19:53):
just wrong. It's just wrong because in America, you have
the right to not be sorry if somebody dies, just
like when liberals die, the right does not care when
missus Hart Cortman was killed in her bed with her
(20:15):
husband and her dog. A state legislature America did not care.
Donald Trump did not care, and that was his right,
and that was your right, and that's everybody's right to
not care. But should we have mourned her, Yes, we
(20:38):
should have. She died in office for her country at
the hands of a right wing extremist, you know, the
Christian nationalist. How many Americans have been killed by Christian
nationalist Gay people being killed in the name of the Lord,
(21:01):
trans people being killed in the name of the Lord immigrants,
So don't tell me who to mourn. I am not
dancing on his grave. I am not happy he was shot.
I was horrified to Steers. It was horrific, but that
doesn't mean I have to be sad about it because
(21:22):
he was actually against my country. Now is show, So
(22:01):
I have to close the show by saying I will
be changing the show. First of all, today has raised
my blood pressure, it has, But I had to say
what I needed to say that Charlie Kirk was actually
Unamerican by definition, and I'm tired of whitewashing it. He
was hateful and spiteful, and his words were evil, and
(22:23):
he was a Christian nationalist, which is an enemy of
the Constitution. It directly goes against the Constitution. But like you,
I am tired of the hatred, and I am tired
of the bigotry, and I am tired of all of it.
Watching a talk show host die profoundly changed me last week.
(22:48):
I don't want to die because I'm a talk show host,
but something else, a very, very very I don't care
if Bible thumpers are in my chat room. Let them
be in there. They just make themselves look ridiculous. A
member of my family, a very dear thirty plus year friend,
(23:13):
called me over the weekend to tell me he had
a stroke, and it shook me to the core. First
of all, he's only sixty Second of all, I don't
know what I'd do without his guidance. Third, the way
he described it, three o'clock in the morning, waking up,
(23:37):
not being able to stand up, not being able to
see because it was like he had drank way too much,
not being able to swallow, going to get a drink
of water by the bedside, and the water falling out
of his mouth, Being taken to the hospital and told
that eight out of ten people that have a brainstem
(23:59):
stroke die having to go on a feeding tube for
two weeks. They thought it was going to be months.
When I heard his story and how he doesn't want
to talk about politics right now, it's the for least
thing on his mind. When I heard him tell me this,
(24:24):
I realized I don't have many years left at best.
I have like thirty, you know, thirty five, probably twenty
to twenty five. And I don't want my world filled
with this kind of stuff. And I don't want to
(24:45):
fill your world with it because it's not worth it.
America is heading for a divorce because there's a large
group of Americans that want to be Christian nation list
and there's another large group of Americans that want the Constitution.
(25:07):
So those two can't exist. You can't want the Constitution
to be your rule of law and be a Christian nationalist.
You cannot. Also, the billionaires are plundering all of our money,
and when Trump is finally out of office, America will
be dead broken in so much debt it's going to collapse.
(25:29):
I can't stop that, and watching it will only hurt.
I want to be here with you every day or
every week. I want to entertain you. I want to
give you love and joy and kindness and health and
vitality and everything that makes life good. Even today's show,
(25:55):
I will be afraid because of what I've said today
on the air. I will my blood pressure has raised
because I get so frustrated that the facts are in
evidence that Christian nationalism is un American, and that being
a Christian nationalist means you are not a patriot. You
(26:16):
are actually un American. That's the way that is. So
I will be making some changes, and I hope that
you come along for the ride. I need the patrons,
I need your support. But this might well be the
(26:38):
last political based entire show that I do. I'll still
address things, I'll still do monologues, whatever, but the whole
show is not going to be focused on stuff like this.
Charlie Kirk's death has caused ugliness, threats of violence, hatred,
people to lose their jobs. It has only further divided
(27:03):
the country, which means the country doesn't want to be
put back together. We should be unifying right now around
gun violence. And no matter what this person's ideology, how
did he have access to a gun that would commit
this crime through his parents? His Republican conservative gun toting
(27:25):
take pictures with guns. Parents don't We don't need that
in our world. You and I we don't need their
hatred in our world. And by talking about their hatred,
I bring it into our safe space. So I'm going
(27:46):
to start doing pro issues, pro trans issues, telling trans
people's stories, pro gay, pro immigrant, telling positive stories about
these wonderful people. I'll start interviewing politicians that are actually
people like Gavin Newsom, people that are actually on the
(28:09):
right side of things, and start telling you about all
the wonders of science that are happening right now that
are going to enrich your lives. Because they've robbed enough
from us. They've taken our country, and when we get
(28:29):
it back, we won't recognize it. The damage being done
to our country will take decades to fix you, and
I won't see the resolution of all of this. It's
going to take fifty years or more to rebuild the
institutions to try to get some peace, and I don't
(28:51):
think it's going to happen. I really believe the country
will break up. I truly believe that what's going on
now was planned. I still fully believe Donald Trump or
someone in the Trump administration ordered this hit to do
exactly what's happening now. It's all going to a script.
(29:11):
Let's call look at the Vice President hosting his podcast.
This This is engineered, it's orchestra and all to keep
an un American Christian nationalist movement moving forward. I am Correll.
You'd be who you want to be, so long as
(29:33):
it doesn't hurt anybody. Think about those words, I love
you much love.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It's broadcasting from a completely different point of view yours.
Listen daily to the
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Correll Cast on your favorite streaming service.
Show time is here. No time to fear. Corralla is
so near because show time is here. So on with
the show. Let's give it a go. Corilla is the
one that you need to know. Now, it's show tide.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, today's show. It's gonna be a rough one because
it could get me into some trouble. So we're gonna
talk about Charlie Kirk and the aftermath of the shooting,
and some of you may not like it. So here
we Go could be my last show.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Uncensored, unfiltered, fun hinged. It's the Corall Cast.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Listen daily on your favorite streaming service. Is the Crowdcast.
I am Correll. It is Monday. What's the date, September fifteenth?
And here I am so glad you are joining me.
What a week? What a week? And what a weekend.
(01:14):
I'm not going to pretend that everything is okay in America.
It's not. Including with my podcast. I keep having these
white flashes that telestream can't seem to get rid of.
But that being said, what I'm going to say today,
the right does not want me to say. Even though
they are mourning the loss of someone that preached for
(01:34):
free speech, the right does not want free speech. The
right only wants free speech when it's speech that they
agree with. If it is speech they disagree with, they
want the people punished. Today, another Washington the only the
last black opinion columnist for the Washington Post, got fired
(01:57):
today because of comments made after the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
Not the only person to be fired based on this.
So I last week and this weekend struggled. I will
tell you I struggled for two reasons. Number one, I
don't want to bring upon violence upon myself. Oh hi, hummingbird,
(02:21):
I don't really don't. I don't want to bring upon
violence or doxing. I don't want to be a target
for MAGA. I don't care enough about America in its
current carnation to die for MAGA or at their hands. Also,
I don't believe America is going to make it. I
(02:45):
think we are watching the downfall and breaking apart of
the United States Union, and so I think putting any
effort into quote saving America is misplaced. The Democrats are
not powerful enough, and they won't say what needs to
(03:06):
be said because they're afraid, like everyone else, has become
And that's how the right wins by making the left
so afraid. All they have done since the shooting of
Charlie Kirk, before they even knew who did it, was
vilify the left, call the left terrorist, say the left
(03:27):
are responsible for all the violence in the world, to
say everything that is contrary to the truth, because that's
what they do. They project. They say things like Trump
derangement syndrome when they're the ones deranged for voting for
a sexual predator felon. They say one thing and completely
(03:52):
mean another, and they project what the other side. In
other words, if they're evil, they say the other side
is evil. And so they have tried to make this
about trans people. Oh, he's dating a trans person. He
once met a trans person on the subway. The fact
is the shooting was done by a white, middle class
(04:14):
raised Republican religious conservative. That's who pulled the trigger, if
you believe their narrative, which I do not. Now Charlie
Kirk was an avowed Christian nationalist, all right. He was
(04:36):
an avowed Christian nationalist. And yet they want Congress which
is holding a moment of silence again. Today, the Vice
President of the United States is hosting Charlie Kirk's podcast today.
Can you imagine if Rachel Maddow got killed and Kamala
(04:57):
Harris had gone and hosted her TV show. Can you
imagine what the right would have said or done? And
yet a vice president who is supposed to be the
vice president of all Americans is going to host one
of the most racist, divisive, homophobic, anti woman, anti Muslim
brands that there is. It speaks volumes. And Charlie Kirk
(05:27):
was an American, He was not a patriot. Our founders
would denounce Charlie Kirk. How do I know? I asked
chat GPT, and I'm going to read you what the
non emotional large language model said when I asked it
(05:49):
about Charlie Kirk and Christian nationalist. You're not gonna believe
what chat GPT said to me.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Really correll dot com Daily, you're missing out. Get the
podcast videos and the blug including recipes at really correll
dot com. That's really k A R E.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
L dot Com.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Show Time is here. No time to fear. Corell is
so near because show time is here, So on with
the show. Let's give it a go. Corell is the
one that you.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Need to know, all right before I read you what
Chad GPT had to say about Charlie Kirk. Let me
just say this, The notion that you or I are
supposed to mourn his passing and that we are being
bullied into being quiet about this is an American okay,
(06:47):
just is Charlie Kirk was an enemy of America. I
that's just a fact, and I'll tell you why. But
if you don't like that fact, you know what. But
I did hear a great quote. If you say hateful
things in your life, expect hateful things to be said
(07:12):
when you die. If you say kind and loving things
in your life, expect kind and loving things to be
said when you die. Charlie Kirk used the US Constitution
to spit on America, and I'm sorry if that upsets you.
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I'm sorry if you think it's too soon after his murder.
I don't want any American to die of gun violence, period, period.
But Charlie Kirk was okay with Americans dying of gun violence.
So Charlie Kirk's followers are being hypocrites when they get
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angry about him dying from gun violence when he himself
said that empathy was a bad thing and that there
was an amount of acceptable deaths from guns in the
United States in order to keep the Second Amendment. Those
are his words. So Charlie Kirk was an avowed Christian nationalist.
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So I put the question to chat GPT, and I said,
our founders were very clear about a separation of church
and state. Charlie Kirk was an avowed Christian nationalist. So
was Charlie Kirk an American? I asked a non biased,
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large language model that question. Here's what it said. Our
founders were crystal clear there must be a wall of
separation between church and state. Jefferson said it, Madison warned
about it, and the First Amendment guarantees it. Charlie Kirk
called himself a Christian nationalist. Let's be clear, that is
(09:08):
an American. This is chat GPT speaking, by the way,
Because Christian nationalism tries to take one religion and make
it the government's guiding force. That's exactly what the founders
fought against. They didn't want kings, they didn't want priest
running government. They wanted a secular republic where all face
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or no face were equal under the law. So if
you call yourself a Christian nationalist, you're not defending America,
you're betraying it. Again. Chat GPT not me. The Founders
were explicit about how the separation of church and state
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and Christian nationalism run counter to that vision what the
founders said. The First Amendment in seventeen ninety one says
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. This means the government
cannot establish or endorse a state religion, nor prevent people
(10:17):
from practicing their faith, faith or not. Thomas Jefferson in
eighteen oh two said in his letter to the Danbury
Baptist he referred to the wall of separation between church
and state. James Madison, the father of the Constitution, said
he warned that religion and government intertwined would corrupt both
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Christian nationalism versus American principles. Christian nationalism seeks to merge
religious ideology, specifically a conservative brand of Christianity, with government
power that directly contradicts the founder's intent. They wanted a
pluristic republic where government does not privilege one faith over another.
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By defining elevating Christianity as the official or dominant ideology
in governance, it is un American because it undermines the
secular framework they built. Why the distinction matters. The founders
were not anti religion, many were personally religious, but they
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understood that for liberty to flourish, no one religion could
dominate government. Christian nationalism erodes freedoms for minorities, religious and
non religious, while American's founding principle was individual liberty protected
from religious coercion. So yes, in answer to your question,
(11:51):
by the founder's own words and the constitution they created,
Christian nationalism is un American. It's a betrayal of the
secular republic they deliberately designed. Therefore, and this is chat GPT.
If Christian nationalism is Unamerican and Charlie Kirk was a
(12:15):
proud Christian nationalist, Charlie Kirk was an American. And we
have our Congress and our president and our vice president
and everyone on the right praising someone who by definition
was an American. Now you can blame me for bringing
(12:37):
this up. You can hate that I am exercising my
First Amendment right by telling you that Christian nationalists are
un American. They are not patriots. They are the opposite
of patriots. They are enemies of the constitution. The founder said,
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if you are an enemy of the Constitution. You should
be tried for treason, and we know what the punishment
for that is. Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be assassinated.
No American deserves to be assassinated from a gun in
the hands of a nut period, none, nobody. But he
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was not a patriot. He was not a good American.
And I refuse to sit silent while everyone whitewashes his legacy.
His legacy is vitriol, hatred, homophobia, transphobia, anti woman, anti gay, xenophobic,
(13:44):
anti Muslim, anti immigrant. That is not a good American.
That is not a true American, That is not a warrior.
And as his wife stood in front of a camera
and said, you don't know what you've unleashed. Who is
she threatening? Who is she threatening Americans? That's who Americans
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who don't line up in goosestep right behind them and
their Unamerican ideology. Now, maybe this will be the last
show I do. Maybe I don't want to talk about
this stuff anymore. Maybe I've had enough. But to sit
here and watch a nation be forced into mourning someone
(14:33):
who was an American is disgusting. And to not hear
one news outlet bring up the fact that Christian nationalism
directly goes against the Constitution of the United States, and
that anyone that purports to be a Christian nationalist is
(14:56):
not a patriot by definition. It's all in the original documents,
even chat Gptinos. So why doesn't CNN, Why does an MSNBC,
Why doesn't Fox, and why doesn't MAGA. We had a
seated president when asked, how do we bring the country together?
(15:19):
The right has violence, the left has violence. How do
we stop this and bring the America together? He said
he didn't care. He didn't care. That's what the seeded
president said about bringing the nation together. He didn't care.
Those are his words. He is an American. Donald Trump
(15:44):
is the most Unamerican president we have ever had, and
he supports Christian nationalism, which is an enemy of the
United States because it's subverts and goes against our content institution.
And that's a fact, and that's a fact period. Jesus
(16:08):
did not push what Charlie Kirk was selling. Jesus would
love gay people, trans people, Jesus would love women, Jesus
would forgive, Jesus would not judge. Jesus would feed the
poor house, the homeless, Jesus would welcome immigrants with open arms.
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Jesus was kind and loving and non judgmental. Jesus was
about honoring thyself and thy neighbor. Jesus was not hatred, bigotry, division.
Jesus would not push his ideology on anyone that didn't
(16:59):
want to hear it. Jesus would denounce people like Charlie Kirk.
Jesus would denounce Donald Trump. Jesus would denounce the organized
religions of the United States of America because Jesus was
(17:22):
a rebel. Jesus was an outcast. Jesus was not part
of government or the establishment. Jesus was the enemy of
government and the establishment because he spoke about inclusion and compassion.
(17:42):
He spoke about love and unity. He was not about
power and wealth and empire expansion. That is not who
this fictitious creature named Jesus was. If you believe he existed,
I do not believe he existed. But if you believe
(18:03):
he existed, then he was not what they're preaching. And
if you believe in the United States, if you believe
in the Founders, if you believe in the Constitution, then
you cannot support Christian nationalists or people like Charlie Kirk
(18:25):
because they go against the Constitution. That does not mean
you assassinate them, and it's horrible that we even have
to put that in there. That does not mean that
you kill them. It means you do not give them
(18:45):
power in government. That's what it means. Oh, you can
be a Christian and you can spout your Christian values,
but not from the White House, not from the floor
of Congress. That's the difference. That's the difference. So to
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mourn an enemy of the people, by definition, Christian nationalism
is an enemy of the people. It is un American.
And to mourn a Christian nationalist in the halls of
government is ridiculous. And to tell real patriots, people that
believe in the Constitution, people that believe in freedom of
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and from religion, people that believe in equality and diversity,
people that believe in immigrants' rights and due process, to
tell those people that they're wrong for not mourning the
loss of the leader of an un American movement, that's
(19:53):
just wrong. It's just wrong because in America, you have
the right to not be sorry if somebody dies, just
like when liberals die, the right does not care when
missus Hart Cortman was killed in her bed with her
(20:15):
husband and her dog. A state legislature America did not care.
Donald Trump did not care, and that was his right,
and that was your right, and that's everybody's right to
not care. But should we have mourned her, Yes, we
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should have. She died in office for her country at
the hands of a right wing extremist, you know, the
Christian nationalist. How many Americans have been killed by Christian
nationalist Gay people being killed in the name of the Lord,
(21:01):
trans people being killed in the name of the Lord immigrants,
So don't tell me who to mourn. I am not
dancing on his grave. I am not happy he was shot.
I was horrified to Steers. It was horrific, but that
doesn't mean I have to be sad about it because
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he was actually against my country. Now is show, So
(22:01):
I have to close the show by saying I will
be changing the show. First of all, today has raised
my blood pressure, it has, But I had to say
what I needed to say that Charlie Kirk was actually
Unamerican by definition, and I'm tired of whitewashing it. He
was hateful and spiteful, and his words were evil, and
(22:23):
he was a Christian nationalist, which is an enemy of
the Constitution. It directly goes against the Constitution. But like you,
I am tired of the hatred, and I am tired
of the bigotry, and I am tired of all of it.
Watching a talk show host die profoundly changed me last week.
(22:48):
I don't want to die because I'm a talk show host,
but something else, a very, very very I don't care
if Bible thumpers are in my chat room. Let them
be in there. They just make themselves look ridiculous. A
member of my family, a very dear thirty plus year friend,
(23:13):
called me over the weekend to tell me he had
a stroke, and it shook me to the core. First
of all, he's only sixty Second of all, I don't
know what I'd do without his guidance. Third, the way
he described it, three o'clock in the morning, waking up,
(23:37):
not being able to stand up, not being able to
see because it was like he had drank way too much,
not being able to swallow, going to get a drink
of water by the bedside, and the water falling out
of his mouth, Being taken to the hospital and told
that eight out of ten people that have a brainstem
(23:59):
stroke die having to go on a feeding tube for
two weeks. They thought it was going to be months.
When I heard his story and how he doesn't want
to talk about politics right now, it's the for least
thing on his mind. When I heard him tell me this,
(24:24):
I realized I don't have many years left at best.
I have like thirty, you know, thirty five, probably twenty
to twenty five. And I don't want my world filled
with this kind of stuff. And I don't want to
(24:45):
fill your world with it because it's not worth it.
America is heading for a divorce because there's a large
group of Americans that want to be Christian nation list
and there's another large group of Americans that want the Constitution.
(25:07):
So those two can't exist. You can't want the Constitution
to be your rule of law and be a Christian nationalist.
You cannot. Also, the billionaires are plundering all of our money,
and when Trump is finally out of office, America will
be dead broken in so much debt it's going to collapse.
(25:29):
I can't stop that, and watching it will only hurt.
I want to be here with you every day or
every week. I want to entertain you. I want to
give you love and joy and kindness and health and
vitality and everything that makes life good. Even today's show,
(25:55):
I will be afraid because of what I've said today
on the air. I will my blood pressure has raised
because I get so frustrated that the facts are in
evidence that Christian nationalism is un American, and that being
a Christian nationalist means you are not a patriot. You
(26:16):
are actually un American. That's the way that is. So
I will be making some changes, and I hope that
you come along for the ride. I need the patrons,
I need your support. But this might well be the
(26:38):
last political based entire show that I do. I'll still
address things, I'll still do monologues, whatever, but the whole
show is not going to be focused on stuff like this.
Charlie Kirk's death has caused ugliness, threats of violence, hatred,
people to lose their jobs. It has only further divided
(27:03):
the country, which means the country doesn't want to be
put back together. We should be unifying right now around
gun violence. And no matter what this person's ideology, how
did he have access to a gun that would commit
this crime through his parents? His Republican conservative gun toting
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take pictures with guns. Parents don't We don't need that
in our world. You and I we don't need their
hatred in our world. And by talking about their hatred,
I bring it into our safe space. So I'm going
(27:46):
to start doing pro issues, pro trans issues, telling trans
people's stories, pro gay, pro immigrant, telling positive stories about
these wonderful people. I'll start interviewing politicians that are actually
people like Gavin Newsom, people that are actually on the
(28:09):
right side of things, and start telling you about all
the wonders of science that are happening right now that
are going to enrich your lives. Because they've robbed enough
from us. They've taken our country, and when we get
(28:29):
it back, we won't recognize it. The damage being done
to our country will take decades to fix you, and
I won't see the resolution of all of this. It's
going to take fifty years or more to rebuild the
institutions to try to get some peace, and I don't
(28:51):
think it's going to happen. I really believe the country
will break up. I truly believe that what's going on
now was planned. I still fully believe Donald Trump or
someone in the Trump administration ordered this hit to do
exactly what's happening now. It's all going to a script.
(29:11):
Let's call look at the Vice President hosting his podcast.
This This is engineered, it's orchestra and all to keep
an un American Christian nationalist movement moving forward. I am Correll.
You'd be who you want to be, so long as
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it doesn't hurt anybody. Think about those words, I love
you much love.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It's broadcasting from a completely different point of view yours.
Listen daily to the
Speaker 2 (29:51):
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