February 27, 2025 • 49 mins
How Do I Trust God With The New Thing? with Jessica Lindsay
In the latest episode of "The Kay Wats Podcast," Kay interviews wife, mom and content creator Jessica Lindsay. Kay and Jessica her journey into content creation and the foundation of her brand identity. Jessica share advice to new and seasoned content creators and the importance of clarity, consistency and execution. They share examples of how trusting God in transition helped them develop a greater relationship as a daughter and every other aspect of life.
In the latest episode of "The Kay Wats Podcast," Kay interviews wife, mom and content creator Jessica Lindsay. Kay and Jessica her journey into content creation and the foundation of her brand identity. Jessica share advice to new and seasoned content creators and the importance of clarity, consistency and execution. They share examples of how trusting God in transition helped them develop a greater relationship as a daughter and every other aspect of life.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey guys, welcome to the KYS podcast. I'm your host
Kashawn Watson, but you know me as KWATS. This is
the place where we chat about the questions that.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We ask God.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
You shared testimonials around healing, wholeness and forgiveness, and I'm
super excited that you're joining us here today. At the
end of this episode, make sure you give us a like, share,
subscribe again. Welcome to the KWYTS podcast. Hey guys, welcome
to an all new episode. I'm the host of the
k WATS podcast. You know me as KWATS. I go
(00:30):
by Kashawn Watson, and I am super excited about this
week's episode.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
When I say super excited, I mean super excited, Like
I've been low key social media stalking her for a
couple of years now, following her journey and her brainy
and I'm super excited to welcome her on the podcast.
I'm talking about wife mom and come on, the boss
content creator herself.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This is Jessica Lindsay. Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you so much
for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Of course, of course, so first and foremost, let's just
go ahead and kick this off. If people out they're
listening to this for the first time, and they don't
know who you are, what you do. Talk a little
bit about what you do, who you are, all the things.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I feel like you've given me like such a great
introduction already. But I everybody, I am Jessica Lindsay. I
am a social media content creator. I am a wife,
a mom, a mom to two under two, currently two
under two, So that's like probably like my biggest role
(01:34):
right now. And what else I create? Content creation is
my full time job. So I create content about my lifestyle,
just sharing my life, my journey, and I also create
content for other content creators.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So teaching you, guys, how.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
To work your cameras, do the lighting, just show up
on social media as your best self.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So, guys, number one, if you have not even came
across her page, I need you to hit a pause
button real quick and go ahead on and follow her,
because then this way the episode makes even more sense
about the things that I really want to unpack.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Right first and foremost too under two.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You like you guys may not be currently watching her,
but I'm seeing her right now in the snapback game.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
When I tell you listen, I just I.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Just crossed over to six months pregnant, and it was
one of those nights that I looked like it was
one of those nights.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
But this would right here the lowless.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Okay, So you just gave me hope on the other side,
what's gonna go?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But when we talk about content creation, when we talk
about the things that you provide for people like the
online teaching services, because that's I think one of the
things that really draw me to your page, Like one,
the quality of the content is like top notch, but
there it seemed to be, which is so interesting, and
maybe you could talk a little bit about how you've
been able to do this.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
There seems to be.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like this transparency on your platform that there doesn't really
seem to be much hidden. And then I think you
still do a really really great job at keeping the
things that are private private and not feeling a need
to expose all the innermost dealings within your home, but
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keeping keeping the main thing, the main thing.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Keeping the business, the business.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So I'm just very curious to know, like when you
started in your content creation journey, was that something that
you just kind of like naturally like went into it
was like, yeah, this is just how it went and
I just stuck with it.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Or was there some type of like real intention behind it.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
So I actually I think this is like transformed over
the years.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I've been doing this for a couple of years, and
I sort of like, you know, social media is a
weird space. It's a very way space.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
It's a great space, but it could also be a
very very strange space. And so I decided that I
was going to have boundaries, right, just boundaries on the
certain parts of my life that I just there were
just off limits for social media. Now, it doesn't mean
that I don't share any of those parts of my life, Like,
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for example, as a wife, I'm married. The world knows that,
social media knows that, but I'm not sharing every single
conversation with me and my husband are having, right, Or
like for example, my home, you know, like our homes
are like our sanctuaries. But it doesn't mean that every
single piece of your home or what happens in your
home needs.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
To be shared to social media.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
You know, there's that phrase like if it doesn't hit
social media, it didn't happen, you know, Like that's such
a lie. It's such a lie, and it's unfortunate that
people feel the need to live their lives that way.
But for example, like me, I always said, like I
never I shoot in my bedroom sometimes, but there's like
my bed is like private, you know, like I don't
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you very rarely see me shooting in my bed, and
if you do, it's like something very silly. It's not
you know, none of those like intimate moments. And so
there's just certain things that I've said to myself are
just offline.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But you still get that part of me where it's.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Like, yeah, you see your husband sometimes, you know, you
see your kids sometimes, you know, but you're not. I'm
not sharing every intimate, intricate detail of my life.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I love this so much, and I think that that
is something that we're people aren't talking a lot about,
is how to create Like when you said your bedroom
is the sanctuary, you know what I'm saying, your home
is the sanctuary. You know, like your bedroom is a
private space. It's intimate, right, Like, so you're gonna be
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very mindful of putting in a camera and exposing that
space for everyone to see. And I'm very curious to
know does that just really go into the foundation of
like your values. Like when I hear this and I'm
just gonna be completely transparent, and this literally just came
to me. I don't know, but maybe this is something
that someone needs to think about, Like it really sets
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you up to know where your priorities are, Like it
lets me know what you value right right, right, like
right off the bat. You know, sometimes people say, well,
you can't really get to know someone based on their
social media, right you don't really know the person, but
you can also look and see what they're unwilling to share,
the things that are private to them. So when you
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talk about your home being your sanctuary, when you talk
about hey, like, yes, I'm married, i have two children,
but I'm not going to put them in front of
the camera all day every day because this is not
about that, Like they're precious to me. So it talks
about the importance of family. It talks about your role
as a wife, your role as a mom, and how
you value that and just protecting that. And I think
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that was like another question I had. One of the
questions someone asked me when I had announced that I
was pregnant, was what was I going to document my
entire journey and that they thought that it would be
so cool to see because that was such a difference.
It was my first child. It was such a different
aspect of me. And I was like, you know, I've
always been very mindful of what I share. When I share,
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people know me for you know, the podcast testifying, like
things like that, say Grace, you know, gathering women in community,
for testifying about the gospel. You know, you know, sharing
different moments of my belly bump has never really been
my thing, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
and it's and it's not taken away from like it's
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probably one of the biggest things that has happened in
my life, but it's kind of like, but it's one
of those things that happened in my life that's between me,
the Lord and my husband. So I love the fact
that you said that, But I want to know, did
you feel any pressure to become a mom influencer and
do you think that's ever a journey you would go down,
Like would you have like your kids, like you know,
(08:10):
playing with the cameras and doing certain things and like
do you think that would ever be a part of
the journey or you kind of like no, like, I'm
not a mom influencer.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm gonna stick with content creation.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I am a mom, but I'm a content creator and
that's where it's gonna stay.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
So that I love that because I've gotten that question
a lot, and I've also it's also something that I've
thought about in the past as well before becoming a mom.
And for me, like I I mean, I think what
happens is like for my non parents out there, where
you're not a parent, you're not really like into the
parent stuff, right, so you're not looking up like what
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does your toddler eat in a day or like those
types of things, and then when you become a parent,
it's like, oh my gosh, like this is the type
of content that I need to consume because I want
to know. So I think there's such value in creators
that are in that space. However, that's not me and
that's never been me, And it's like no shade to
like mom creators, no shade to even creators that are
(09:09):
lifestyle creators that then pivot their lives to being like mommies.
There's no shade there. But that's not me, And so
my kids are not off limits. I know, that there's
like the spectrum. One is like one side the spectrum,
it's like see everything. The other side is like putting
stickies over their faces.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Like I don't fall in either of those categories. But
my children are not my fault. My husband is not
my fault. This is like I don't have a family page,
and I don't have a desire to pivot.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Some of my some of my.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Like followers, my audience that have been like rocking with
me for a while, they're here for like the long haul.
So they're here for like all of the things. They're
like jess is pregnant, like let's see the things, you know,
like she's this, let's see the things. And I'm all
here for that. But I don't ever want my content
to just be focused solely on motherhood. It is primarily Jessica, right,
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and so if my children then fall into that somehow,
like you talked about, like you know, my kids playing
with the camera, if that's something that like my son
is like I can't shoot around him, my one year old,
because he loves the tripod and he's like always kind
of like he's like let me address it for you, mom, right, right, right,
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and so like those are the moments that I would
share because it's something that like I'm trying to work
and like this is my reality, right, but it's not
solely about him really, you know. Or it may just
be like my story and my kids are just like
a part of that life. But I just it's just
because I don't have a desire to do that. Now
(10:50):
I do again, I do think it's incredibly valuable, you know,
because I'm one of those people that are.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Following the mom and.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Like following this seeing like all of the things. But
it's just like it's just not a desire of mind
to do.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I love it just goes back to and I think
this could be another reason why that your your brand
has done so well is because people talk a lot
professionally about brand identity. But as a believer, I think
that first and foremost our identity is found in Christ
and that should just spill out and over and everything
that we do. And I think that when you show
up knowing who you are, because you know whose you are,
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then those types of pressures don't really impact you the
same way as it does the world. And it just
seems like that you've been rocks steady, cist like that's
what is so intriguing about what you've done. I think
that you know, when I had even saw them, when
I had just reached out to you, the thing that
the Lord had put on my heart is that you
just transition.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, like that was the thought.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
But this was the interesting part in the midst of
I don't know all the behind the scenes transitions that
you've had, but it seems to have been that you've
been very consistent that you understand the assignment and you
exit cute it. Well, there's a level of stewardship that
you have over your platform and the value that you
bring to your audience and your community, and that is
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seen like to the blind, I'm sure like it's it's
so it's so tangible.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
But I did want to pivot to talk.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
About since we are going to talk about the pressures
that maybe the world does experience, and maybe some advice
that you can offer, even like some believers that are
struggling right now to figure out this new wave of
social media and marketing and the direction that we're going in.
I know that there was the big uh TikTok scare
for I don't know if it was twelve or twenty
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four hours, I don't know, but it was something happened
within the time of twelve and twenty four hours, and
there was a lot of chatter. There was a lot
of fear around this because there was a lot of
people that were making, if not all, a large majority
of their finances was coming from TikTok, and they are
really trying to see like where to pivot, how to
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pivot and all those things. And I don't know if
TikTok that specific platform is like really really huge to you,
But I am very curious because I do know that
you do have other platforms if for whatever reason, if
those were ever to be in talks of closing down
or things like that, what do you think that you
would do or what would be your first stance, what
(13:23):
would be your posture? Right, I'm just very curious because
I think that could encourage other people that are like, hey,
we don't own these platforms, We don't control the decision
making behind the technology of how the algorithm goes and
all these things. But these are two things I know
for sure, So I'm just curious what those would be
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for you.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, Okay, So I got to answer this in a
couple of different ways. Right.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
First, I'm going to talk to the believer, right, because
you know, it's a different conversation if we're honest, right,
it's a different conversation, and our believers, you have the
first and foremost understand You talked about purpose, You talked
about like what it is not like you are here
to do right. If God has called you to do something,
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He's called you to do it, and he's going to
make the way for you to do it right. And
so there's no TikTok, there's no Instagram, there's no YouTube,
there's no website, there's no internet that's going to stop
God from putting inside of you what it is that
he has called you to do right.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
And so that is like.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
First and foremost is that trusting him that whatever it
is that he's called you to do, that he's going
to make away.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
He's gonna make a way.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
And so you may have thought it was going to
come through TikTok, and that may have been like what
you've been rocking with for that season.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
But if TikTok is no longer, if social.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Media is no longer, it doesn't mean that the dream
or the the what he's put inside of you is dead, right.
It just means that, Okay, it's time to pivot once
it's something else. Let me listen and hear to what
it is that God is telling me to do next. Right,
So I would say, that's that's kind of my speech
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to the believer, But on a more general sense, it's
still trust, right, still trusting that, like okay, trusting in
your creativity, trusting that like.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
If you've done it before, you can do it again.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I had this was like I think twenty twenty two,
twenty twenty one, my page was disabled. My page on
Instagram and TikTok is not my main platform, so I
don't I didn't really have like that type of like
scare for myself, but I could understand, like what if
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that were to happen to me, And it has happened
to me in a general since.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
The whole platform didn't go away, but my page got
taken away.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
My page got taken away. Someone was impersonating there's always
people impersonating me. Someone was impersonating me, and I reported
their page and maybe about like five minutes later, I
got a notification saying, like your page has been disabled
and I could not log in, And this had been
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going on for like I would say, like it felt
like three years, but it was like probably like two
or three weeks and I was finally able to like
get my page back. But in that time, I literally,
I mean first what went through me was like panic.
I'm like, oh snap, Like what am I about to do?
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I had partnerships that were like coming up, and I'm
like scrambling trying to figure out, like Okay, what do
I tell the brand?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like what do I do?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You know all of these things, and so it is
you know, using wisdom to making sure that you're diversifying
your content on different platforms, right, so not solely relying
on one single platform. And then again, like you said
it before, we don't own these platforms.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
We don't own.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Instagram, so you know, TikTok, we don't owe those platforms.
And so getting out on the YouTube's building your own website,
you know, having a place where your people can find
you that is not relyant on social media. So that
was my first thing was like a panic of like okay,
oh my gosh, what am I gonna do? And then
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I said to myself, it was like, jes like, if
you did this before, and I mean this was like
before I grew significantly.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
But I'm like, if you did it before, you can
do it again and you can continue to do it again.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
And so that's sort of like the message is like
one platform should not stop you. It's not to say
that it may not, you know, take a hit to
your pockets right away, but you should always be moving
in multiple directions, having a community here, having a community here,
having ideas, you know, like, what is it that I
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can do if social media was gone completely?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
How can I still get what's inside of me out? Right?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
So you have a podcast, you might show up on
social media and share that content on social media, but
ultimately the message is still the message, right, and so
we can get that message out without the use of
social media. And so it's like, be creative on how
you can get whatever it is that's applicable to you out.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, that's set. Listen, Jess. I mean you're hitting all
the hits, okay, but it's so true.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I think that I really and maybe this is a
question that for the Kickstarter session to where for people
that are just getting started, because you have people that
have been in the social media game for a while
that kind of like have figured out their groove and
know how to maneuver. But then you have people that
either their transitions out of corporate, their first time ever,
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their start. You know, there's a lot going on right
now with people having to pivot their jobs and their careers,
and I do think that a lot of people are
probably going to take to trying to build their own platform,
trying to build their own kind of like entrepreneur, whatever
that looks like. So when it came to the podcast,
when it came to even say Grace, I really asked
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the Lord the question because one of the things that
I struggled with was I did not want to be
in the content creation space. Like I really truly liked
the behind the scenes. I liked kind of like cheering
my sisters on behind the scenes and supporting whatever they had.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But the Lord just really put.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It heavy on my heart that if you strip it
all away, it's really about the heart of hearing your
sister's testimonies and they need to be shared, and this
is the way I'm doing it right. So what I
would have over like if me and you were in
the same city, this would be like, hey, do you
(20:03):
want to grab coffee?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Do you you know what I'm saying? Do you want
to have lunch? You know?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And let's just kind of like unpack all the things.
So how do you do what you do in real
life and just bring you get what I'm saying, Like,
I think that's another thing too, is like not trying
to create a different persona online that you have to
keep up with, right too, because it's not sustainable and
as a believer, the juxtaposition of trying to balance that
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is just like that's not sustainable and possibly not fulfilling,
you know. So do you have advice for like a
Kickstarter series, like what are the top three things that
you did when you first started out your content creation journey?
Would you still advise people to do those three things
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or do you feel like they've changed over the span
of the last five to seven years and now this
is what you would encourage them to do.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
As far as building on the social media.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Okay, So let's just scenario this.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Let's say there's someone who recently found out that they
lost their job, okay, right, and they're like, okay, but
I have a well of knowledge okay from being in
their specific industry for over ten plus years, how do
I create an online brand to represent that?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Where would they start?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
What would be three questions and things that they should
ponder on and sit with first?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
So I so I used to offer I still offer coaching.
I don't do it too much anymore. But one of
the first things that I say to my client, if
you or my client, would be what is your iehelp statement?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Right? So that is and it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Have to be I help, It could be I encourage,
I teach whatever, but as I help who to do what?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Right?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
So figuring in essence, that is figuring out your target audience,
and that's figuring out what value it is that you're
going to provide, because that's what social media is about.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Like I know, back in the day, twenty two thousand
and seven, whatever year it was, we used to always
just share our lunch.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It was like our visual die. Instagram was our visual diet.
Everyone you know, just selfies.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
But now that is completely not not the scenario. And
your audience in essence wants something from you, right, So
you are here to provide people with value, whether that
be entertainment, knowledge, you know, something you're here to provide
them with. And so you have to figure out what
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value it is that you provide. It's not it's not
that you can just take great content with your phone
or your camera.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
That's not enough unless that's the specific value that you provide.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
It's not enough to just have pretty content, right, And
so figuring out who it is that you want to
speak to and be specific, you know, is it is
it women, is it black women?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Is it young black women? Is it you know, Christian women?
Is it? Like? Who are you talking to? Right? Because
that is where you're going to be able to really
target that message. Right.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
You don't want to be like, all right, I'm just
gonna throw it out and see what sticks, right, because
it might be applicable to somebody else. But you want
to know exactly who it is that you're speaking to.
So I would say, first figuring out that I help statement,
figuring out the value that you provide, and then start.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
To come up with those ideas. Right you get on,
get on the platform.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So I would say, if you know, depending on what
your bandwidth is, right, figuring out what type of content
you're comfortable creating and what platforms best align with that.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Right? If you're like a talker. If you're just like.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I just I have all this value that I want
to provide and it's in the way of talking, like
having those conversations, maybe Instagram is not the place, right
because if you're a if you're a talker, you know,
after fifteen seconds, Instagram is like.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
It's not abod.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
So maybe YouTube would be the best place for you, right,
Or you know, if you just like those short you
have like little tidbits of information, maybe TikTok is the place, right,
So figuring out like where your home base is, and
then later on, you know, don't overwhelm yourself. Later on
you can can go and figure out like, Okay, well
how do I take this one piece of content and
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make it in three different ways?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
So for instance, we're having this conversation right now, this
is more long form. This could live on YouTube primarily,
but you can also take a little excerpt, put it
on you, put it on TikTok, put it on Instagram.
You know, maybe like do some b ro shot for Instagram,
you know, give Instagram what it wants.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
So just figuring out later on, like what platforms like
you can like expand.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
To, and then I would say, like, figure out what
your consistency schedule looks like. What does consistency look like
for you? It may not look like every single day.
It doesn't have to be every day, you know. That's
something I would say that has changed significantly from the past.
You don't have to post every single day. But if
you want this to be sustainable, if you're figuring out,
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like hey, like I just whether you left your job,
you got fired from your job, you just your job,
let you go whatever it is, and you're trying to
make this a like an income, you're trying to create
income from this, you have to be consistent. And so
it's figuring out what does consistency look like for me realistically,
not oh, I have five video ideas that I'm going
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to post this week and then next week.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I got you up once you know, what does that
look like? Consistent?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
What can you, like on a long time basis follow
through with? So I would say, like, I know I
probably gave a lot of information, but I would say
that that's like three things that you can like really
really really get started with.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
So literally, as you were talking, the three things that
I got was identify who you are and what you're doing.
I got be willing to execute the plan, and then
I also got be disciplined yes to the plan that
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you're executing. So if we're going to talk about like, guys,
if you're taking notes, like that's what I got, like
figure out like who you are and what you're doing
with this, because I also think something that's so key,
and maybe a lot of people don't talk about this,
but that when you are in a transition season and stay,
a lot of times people do need to take a
moment and really sit with the Lord and just say, Okay,
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are you pivoting me in a completely different space. Sometimes
we want to bring everything from the previous season into
the next season because we want that new season to
have value, and we think that the only way that
it will have value is if like, Okay, Lord, you
got to use these last ten years of all this
stuff to make it make sense or why I got
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laid off, or why you move me here, or why
things look different than what it looks like. But sometimes
and I feel like I said this on an episode before,
like there's that phrase that people have said, like not
every good thing as a god thing. And then the
Lord told me one time like, yeah, but when I
do things, they're all good things. But then there's when
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I'm doing a new thing, and you have to trust
that the new thing is going to be as good
as the last thing that I did, because he only
does good things, yes, And I think sometimes that we
have to remember that in transition when we're making those
pivots and not being so quick to commit to something
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out of fear of I don't Lord, I don't know
if I trust you with this, you know, And even
to the insecure person that doesn't like to be in
front of the camera or just doesn't know if their
stuff is going to land, the Lord's sovereignty is bigger
than your insecurity and that let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And I don't even want to interrupt you.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I don't go it's like you're speaking to me right now,
because you're speaking.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I went to school for photography, right graduated.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I graduated college in two thousand and nine, okay, with
my bachelor's degree in photography.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So I come from a history of like that. But
let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
After college, after I graduated, I was so scared of
and there was no social media at the time. Really
there was Facebook, but it wasn't what we have today.
So the world of like social media didn't exist, right,
how content creation was not a thing. So I was
so afraid of using my camera, of like showing my work,
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of just taking this identity of photographer videographer. You know,
forget video. I didn't even touch video, but photographer. I
was so fearful of it. And I spent years, on
ten plus years away from it. I didn't even touch it,
didn't even touch a camera because I was so afraid.
(29:26):
And so I was doing this job and this job,
and when you were talking just now, you know, it's
just like the Holy Spirit is speaking to me because
it's like that's my story, you know, and you think that,
like you think that, like okay, well I spend so
much time, you know, doing this, and it's not for nothing.
It's not for nothing. And so I went back to school.
(29:50):
I got my master's in mental health counseling, and all
these things were great things, and God was doing a
new thing.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
But it's funny because it's like He took all of
those things and made it into one. Who could have
who could have said that when I graduated that I
was going to take my photography skills, my counseling skills,
these skills, those skills, those skills, and put it all
together to make what it is that I am today.
(30:19):
Who would I wouldn't have you do what you know?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
And so just that's that's just an encouragement to whoever
that like it's that time is not wasted.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, that time was not wasted.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
And God is if you're walking and moving in purpose
and you don't always have to know what the purpose is, right,
always know what it is. You just got to trust
God because I did not know that this was the
purpose for my life. I didn't know that I was
just walking and like all right, God, like I feel
like this is you. I feel like I'm you know,
(30:56):
I feel like I'm going in the right way that
you want me to go.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I don't hear are you telling me to go somewhere else?
So I'm just gonna keep walking necessarily know where I'm going.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, I would look at.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I would look at other people and say like dang, God,
like why you know? Like my for my husband, for example,
my husband is a music producer.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
He's a musician. He's been a musician his.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Entire life, right, and he has purpose is like very
clear for him. You look at him, you could you know,
he's a church musician, he's you know, does it for you.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
It's very clear what he's designed to do. And I
would look at him, you.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Know, even when we're dating or just other people, and
be like, dang God, like you know, I feel like
it's so clear for them, Like I feel like You've
laid it out for them, and I'm asking you, what
is it that you what is it that You've.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Designed for me to do? Like, what is it that
you have for me to do?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
And it's just like just trust me, Just trust me,
Just trust trust me. And so it's just like taking
those small steps. I know I might be going off
on a tangent right now.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I felt it. I thought, well, the Holy Spirit was shifting.
I was like, okay, this was not in my notes.
Let we's just gonna go ahead me on rock and roll.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
But it's no.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Transition like you said, it's transitioning and trusting Him with
those transitions, trusting Him with every single step.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's those moments of God is so bigger than our create,
our own creativity. He's so bigger than our own ideas.
The Bible says that His thoughts are not our thoughts.
So even my best thought, okay, when I feel like
this is a slam nunk, right, does not compete nor
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compete with the sovereignty of the Lord. And I'm grateful
for that that my creator is so much greater and
bigger than my best day.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And my worst Okay, that he got me covered.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So even in those moments, and hopefully you know, I'm
thank you so much for sharing that because I didn't
know that. So I just you know, the Lord being,
and I will say that that is when I have
those moments of questioning, and I think that we all
have done it, you know, personally, professionally, creatively, like Lord,
what are you doing? Where are we going? How is
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this gonna work? Does this really make sense? And you
and when you can see other people that seem like
you said so sure. It's so funny because my husband
was a worship pastor for fifteen years. I did not
know that you're so Now he's a musician. He writes
music for television and film. But since he was like ten,
he knew that he was going to be a music
That's wild to me, okay, but the Lord reminds me
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constantly remember who your God is, and that always humbles
me and gets me together. And I love when you say,
because that's the thing too, that a lot of people
struggling with, Well, how do I know that it's God?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
How do I know the path that I'm walking on
right now is where the Lord wants me? I'm telling you, like,
as a disciple, as a believer of Jesus Christ, we
are called to walk by the spirit. And I will
tell you when there are moments to where you step
out of line, the Holy Spirit will rebuke you.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yes, yes, there will.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Be something like the conviction that you feel like something's
off here. I don't know if it's me, if it's this,
if it's where I am, but something is not going
And that's just the grace and the mercy of God
to that's not a bad thing, you know. The rebuking
of the Holy Spirit is what we need because He
wants us walk.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
In step with me. So if you walk in and
step and you're kind of like it seems okay, I.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Don't know either way. Listen, the Holy spirits do it
its job. It's walking with you right like, So I
love that so much. So I think this is like
a good pivot into my last question, because you know,
the title is the podcast is kind of like the
questions we ask got So I'm really curious, like and
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maybe it's a recent question, or maybe it was one
of those questions during this season of transition and really
being like, Lord, how are you going to work all
this out? What was a question that you asked God
to where his answer just kind of like was like who,
or maybe he hasn't responded yet, and you're sitting back
like you.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Want so you want to.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
I feel like this is a season that I'm in.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
We didn't touch on this too much, right, like being
a mom, being a wife, and being a creator someone
who loves what they do.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
It's been rough. It's been rough. It's been the motherhood
streets are real, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I'm a at home mom, you know, and I'm so
grateful and blessed to be able to raise my children
at home, Like it's such a blessing, but in reality,
like it drives me crazy sometimes.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
And so one of the things that I've been like
talking to God about is like God, like you know, how,
like how are you how can I find like how
can I make the time to like do it all right,
like I want to be I want to be like
the best mom.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
I want to be the best wife, and I want to.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Like still be like killing it at my job, like
God like make the time, Like how do I do
all of these things?
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Right?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
And so you know, it's funny that, like you said,
like the answer be like right, I haven't you know?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
God is like you asking me the wrong question? Right,
the wrong question says, you ask me the wrong question.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
And so I'm He's what it is that he's teaching
me is to trust again with the trust we talked
about transition. We're talking about trust to trust him with
my time right because what is happening is what's happening
is is like sometimes I'll like, for example, like devotion time,
(37:14):
my time spent with him before I had kids, before
I got married, singles.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I hope you're listening because.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Right here before there were all of those interruptions, right
I I could be like, look like you know, first thing,
I first thing I do.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I'm going to get up and I'm going to you know,
spend some time with the Lord or I'm gonna you know,
sometimes it would be like an evening like thing like okay,
like little daytime with the Lord. Just spend some time
in devotions or go out to a coffee, you know,
just whatever I wanted, you know, like whenever I wanted.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
And I don't have that.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Luxury right now, right, I don't have the luxury to
just of like a specific time right like no matter what,
like it's gonna happen at this time. That's not the
way that it works right now. And so that for me,
I'm a very type a person and I operate and
I thrive on order, right So to be like, oh,
(38:18):
we don't know what's happening today like kills me, right.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
So that's that's another thing that I'm working through.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
But sometimes I will say like, okay, well I get
up in the morning and I'm like, instead of spending
time in devotions, I'm gonna go wash the distance right
now because I know that the boys are sleeping, and
I know that, you know, like I can just get ahead.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Of the day right now, right, I know.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
If I can get that done, then I can spend
some time in devotion, like even if the boys are up,
I know that, you know, just like all this like
trying to busy work and not that it doesn't matter,
not that it's not important to keep your house clean,
but in this we talk about the Holy Spirit. Sometimes
you're like, Okay, well, how do I know if God
is speaking to me? You will know, right, you will know,
(39:04):
and you may not know the first time. But God,
if he's trying to get a message to you, he
will get on your nerves, like take it so that
you cannot not hear him.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Right.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
So I remember specifically one morning I could feel that
little inkling that was just like, go spend time with me, right,
don't worry about the dishes, Go.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Spend time with me.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
And I'm like, nah, that's just like that's just me talking, right,
like me talking like let me go do the dishes.
And I didn't listen, and I went and I did
the dishes, and I could just feel, go spend me.
Go spend time with me. Go spend time with me.
And I say all of this to say that God
is going to he sees you one and what it
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is that He has for you in this season is
going to look a lot different than what you may
have envisioned for yourself. But trust Him with your time. Again,
we go back to purpose. If this is what God
has called you to do. And again it may look
a little bit different from the plans that you have
in your own mind, but his plans are better.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
He will, he will make the way his his his mind.
His abilities are beyond reason, they're beyond math. Right, Like
he will open doors that never existed.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Right.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
But it's like be obedient. Yeah, trust him with your time.
Right if if he can trust you, right, if he
tells you to do something, or if he sees that,
you know what, look at my door. I know that
she wants to make sure that the.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
House is clean, that this is this, but she's taking
out the time and she's spending with me. Trust and
believe those doors are gonna open. Yeah, all doors I'm
gonna open.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
And it's not like a oh, I'm gonna do this
because he's going to do that. But it's about love,
it's about trust. It's just knowing that like God has
the best for you, he has the best for us,
like you are his creation. Right, and so this is
like a lessing that it's like an ongoing journey for
me because I have not gotten an answer.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
But that is also how God works with me, because
can you like.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Answers, right, I like answers, and so it's like he's
not like being like okay.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Boom boom, go on, it's like, no, I'm going to
give you a little bit. I'm going to give you
a little bit. I'm going to give you a little bit.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
And so if it's like a continual trusting him and
like Danga.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Like I know that was you.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I like this so much.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
One I want to say thank you because I think
that just your level of transparency and vulnerability, I feel
like in this conversation, I definitely know that it's edifying me.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I know that it has to be edifying people that
are listening.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
And then the other thing that I think just really
stood out when you were talking was that there is
and I think, you know sometimes and I don't really
like to give the enemy too much credit on the
things that he be doing. But the thing that I
have noticed in my own life that he has that
he tries to do often, and where I can get
(42:16):
hung up is that sometimes I forget being his daughter
is more than enough, and I think sometimes we forget
as daughters of the king, there is grace upon grace
upon grace upon grace that he is allotted to us
(42:37):
that he is not mad with us, that he is
not disappointed with us, that he is not ashamed of
our week or our month on how we chose to
set it up. He truly just desires to dwell with
us and to be the focus of our you know
what I'm saying. And I think the enemy loves to
(42:59):
play with us. The more titles we get, the more
like it's so funny that you were talking. People don't
talk about this with Everybody's like, I want to us,
but I want to I like it.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Well.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Before I got married, I had a lot of time
just to sit and dwell with the Lord, right, And
during those times it's why it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
And during those times and seasons I was crying.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
I asked the Lord where my husband was, right, and
that He's like, oh, don't you work right? Yep, And
then you get into the busyness of stuff and then
you're like, man, Lord, I miss having that that that
hour and a half just empty in in my in
my house where no one else is here, There's there's
nothing else on the agenda. I don't have any other
(43:40):
responsibilities at this point other than myself and just spending
time with you and you forget how.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Important that is.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
And that's another reason why I think, like, don't despise
the single season, but also guys, don't despise this season
of when you don't have a list of things to
do on your to do list.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Some times we just.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Want to be busy because we feel like that adds
value to us. We're value because we are daughters and
sons of the Most High and period. Yes, yes, So
I think that that's so encouraging and it's beautiful just
to kind of like see your relationship with the Lord
(44:20):
and your walk with him, and I think that that
says so much Behind the camera, it's kind of like
you are petitioning the Lord and talking to him and
asking him and just being very vulnerable with him. And
I think that's what it's all about. Like, Lord, help
me make it make sense. But I'm just reminded, like
he's not mad at us, he's not disappointed, he's not ashamed, right,
(44:45):
you know, And when the Holy Spirit tungus on us,
it's kind of like comes it. And usually when he
does that, it's because later on we're going to be like, man,
I should have spent some more time with the Lord
at least for me.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Every time I.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Have missed like Okay, I'll do it later, something happens
within that day.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Or week, and I was like I just I needed
And then I'm like the Holy was talking at me earlier.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
It was like you just just come on over and
just come seconds.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
I struggled with as a new mom, you know, and
I never heard anybody talk about that like when you
first I'm talking about like those first few weeks you know,
you have a newborn, and you know, you talk about, okay,
you're married, you know, yeah, help, your husband is doing
(45:42):
his own devotions. Sometimes you guys do devotions together. But
but that newborn life, when you're not sleeping, you're not
you don't have time. You don't even know when you're
going to use the bathroom talking about like great time
expread with the Lord. I felt so much guilt, you know.
That was something that was one of the things you said,
was there was so much guilt. I felt like, God,
(46:04):
I don't even know I'm not sleeping. I'm not you know,
I don't know how I'm gonna have like literally have
time to spend with you.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
And I felt so bad. I felt, and I didn't.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
Say it out loud, because you know, those are one
of those things that you kind of like are ashamed of, like, oh,
I'm you know, as a Christian, I'm supposed to be
doing I'm supposed to be doing this.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
I'm supposed to be spending and I'm like, I just didn't.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
And you know, my mother in law and like you
know my pastor as well, like they share with me.
They were like, just like when you're carrying that baby,
when you're when that baby is crying and you're singing,
you just that is your time. That's your time. You
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put your worship music on and that is your time,
and that is enough. Yes, he sees you.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
It's like a ten.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
He sees you, and he will meet as long as
you are doing your best, like you're put in your
best foot forward. He's not gonna he's he's not gonna
be like.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah, well you had two hours of sleep right on,
and like's not his character is, you know.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
And I remember him speaking to me this was probably
like a week into my my first being born, and
I remember the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit for me,
how how he works with me. I don't hear his
voice audibly many times, but that was one time where
he says, jess everything, like you are doing enough and
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everything that I everything that you need I have already
put inside of you.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yeah enough and so and that was all. That was all.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
It was like he's and visited me while barely and
and it was so precious. It was so precious because
you know, as a new mom, you're like, I don't
know what I'm doing this gay crying and he's looking
to me and what am I you know, and so
it's just again it's like you are that just like
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that baby is looking at you are.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
As precious to the father as that you know. So
it's just like trust your dad.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Yeah, trust your dad.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Man, what a conversation.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Come on, Lindsey f I love.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
This so much. Well, all right, listen, we're gonna stay
in contact.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
We just have to.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
But for people that are not following you, where can
they go? Follow your stuff? Connect with you, learn more
about what it is that you do.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
Yes, it's Jessica Lindsay on all platforms, and that's Lindsay
with L L I N D s A y so, Instagram, TikTok.
I'm on YouTube too that I'm trying to get my
life to get over there. But it's Jessica Lindsay on
all platforms, and then it's Jessica Lindsay dot com.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Come on over there.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Too, Guys, thank you so much for tuning into this
week's episode of the KAS podcast.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Definitely making sure that you
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Like, share and subscribe until next week, Be blessed,
Hey guys, welcome to the KYS podcast. I'm your host
Kashawn Watson, but you know me as KWATS. This is
the place where we chat about the questions that.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We ask God.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
You shared testimonials around healing, wholeness and forgiveness, and I'm
super excited that you're joining us here today. At the
end of this episode, make sure you give us a like, share,
subscribe again. Welcome to the KWYTS podcast. Hey guys, welcome
to an all new episode. I'm the host of the
k WATS podcast. You know me as KWATS. I go
(00:30):
by Kashawn Watson, and I am super excited about this
week's episode.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
When I say super excited, I mean super excited, Like
I've been low key social media stalking her for a
couple of years now, following her journey and her brainy
and I'm super excited to welcome her on the podcast.
I'm talking about wife mom and come on, the boss
content creator herself.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This is Jessica Lindsay. Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you so much
for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Of course, of course, so first and foremost, let's just
go ahead and kick this off. If people out they're
listening to this for the first time, and they don't
know who you are, what you do. Talk a little
bit about what you do, who you are, all the things.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I feel like you've given me like such a great
introduction already. But I everybody, I am Jessica Lindsay. I
am a social media content creator. I am a wife,
a mom, a mom to two under two, currently two
under two, So that's like probably like my biggest role
(01:34):
right now. And what else I create? Content creation is
my full time job. So I create content about my lifestyle,
just sharing my life, my journey, and I also create
content for other content creators.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So teaching you, guys, how.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
To work your cameras, do the lighting, just show up
on social media as your best self.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So, guys, number one, if you have not even came
across her page, I need you to hit a pause
button real quick and go ahead on and follow her,
because then this way the episode makes even more sense
about the things that I really want to unpack.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Right first and foremost too under two.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You like you guys may not be currently watching her,
but I'm seeing her right now in the snapback game.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
When I tell you listen, I just I.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Just crossed over to six months pregnant, and it was
one of those nights that I looked like it was
one of those nights.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
But this would right here the lowless.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Okay, So you just gave me hope on the other side,
what's gonna go?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But when we talk about content creation, when we talk
about the things that you provide for people like the
online teaching services, because that's I think one of the
things that really draw me to your page, Like one,
the quality of the content is like top notch, but
there it seemed to be, which is so interesting, and
maybe you could talk a little bit about how you've
been able to do this.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
There seems to be.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like this transparency on your platform that there doesn't really
seem to be much hidden. And then I think you
still do a really really great job at keeping the
things that are private private and not feeling a need
to expose all the innermost dealings within your home, but
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keeping keeping the main thing, the main thing.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Keeping the business, the business.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So I'm just very curious to know, like when you
started in your content creation journey, was that something that
you just kind of like naturally like went into it
was like, yeah, this is just how it went and
I just stuck with it.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Or was there some type of like real intention behind it.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
So I actually I think this is like transformed over
the years.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I've been doing this for a couple of years, and
I sort of like, you know, social media is a
weird space. It's a very way space.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
It's a great space, but it could also be a
very very strange space. And so I decided that I
was going to have boundaries, right, just boundaries on the
certain parts of my life that I just there were
just off limits for social media. Now, it doesn't mean
that I don't share any of those parts of my life, Like,
(04:23):
for example, as a wife, I'm married. The world knows that,
social media knows that, but I'm not sharing every single
conversation with me and my husband are having, right, Or
like for example, my home, you know, like our homes
are like our sanctuaries. But it doesn't mean that every
single piece of your home or what happens in your
home needs.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
To be shared to social media.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
You know, there's that phrase like if it doesn't hit
social media, it didn't happen, you know, Like that's such
a lie. It's such a lie, and it's unfortunate that
people feel the need to live their lives that way.
But for example, like me, I always said, like I
never I shoot in my bedroom sometimes, but there's like
my bed is like private, you know, like I don't
(05:05):
you very rarely see me shooting in my bed, and
if you do, it's like something very silly. It's not
you know, none of those like intimate moments. And so
there's just certain things that I've said to myself are
just offline.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But you still get that part of me where it's.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Like, yeah, you see your husband sometimes, you know, you
see your kids sometimes, you know, but you're not. I'm
not sharing every intimate, intricate detail of my life.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I love this so much, and I think that that
is something that we're people aren't talking a lot about,
is how to create Like when you said your bedroom
is the sanctuary, you know what I'm saying, your home
is the sanctuary. You know, like your bedroom is a
private space. It's intimate, right, Like, so you're gonna be
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very mindful of putting in a camera and exposing that
space for everyone to see. And I'm very curious to
know does that just really go into the foundation of
like your values. Like when I hear this and I'm
just gonna be completely transparent, and this literally just came
to me. I don't know, but maybe this is something
that someone needs to think about, Like it really sets
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you up to know where your priorities are, Like it
lets me know what you value right right, right, like
right off the bat. You know, sometimes people say, well,
you can't really get to know someone based on their
social media, right you don't really know the person, but
you can also look and see what they're unwilling to share,
the things that are private to them. So when you
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talk about your home being your sanctuary, when you talk
about hey, like, yes, I'm married, i have two children,
but I'm not going to put them in front of
the camera all day every day because this is not
about that, Like they're precious to me. So it talks
about the importance of family. It talks about your role
as a wife, your role as a mom, and how
you value that and just protecting that. And I think
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that was like another question I had. One of the
questions someone asked me when I had announced that I
was pregnant, was what was I going to document my
entire journey and that they thought that it would be
so cool to see because that was such a difference.
It was my first child. It was such a different
aspect of me. And I was like, you know, I've
always been very mindful of what I share. When I share,
(07:27):
people know me for you know, the podcast testifying, like
things like that, say Grace, you know, gathering women in community,
for testifying about the gospel. You know, you know, sharing
different moments of my belly bump has never really been
my thing, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
and it's and it's not taken away from like it's
(07:48):
probably one of the biggest things that has happened in
my life, but it's kind of like, but it's one
of those things that happened in my life that's between me,
the Lord and my husband. So I love the fact
that you said that, But I want to know, did
you feel any pressure to become a mom influencer and
do you think that's ever a journey you would go down,
Like would you have like your kids, like you know,
(08:10):
playing with the cameras and doing certain things and like
do you think that would ever be a part of
the journey or you kind of like no, like, I'm
not a mom influencer.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm gonna stick with content creation.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I am a mom, but I'm a content creator and
that's where it's gonna stay.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
So that I love that because I've gotten that question
a lot, and I've also it's also something that I've
thought about in the past as well before becoming a mom.
And for me, like I I mean, I think what
happens is like for my non parents out there, where
you're not a parent, you're not really like into the
parent stuff, right, so you're not looking up like what
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does your toddler eat in a day or like those
types of things, and then when you become a parent,
it's like, oh my gosh, like this is the type
of content that I need to consume because I want
to know. So I think there's such value in creators
that are in that space. However, that's not me and
that's never been me, And it's like no shade to
like mom creators, no shade to even creators that are
(09:09):
lifestyle creators that then pivot their lives to being like mommies.
There's no shade there. But that's not me, And so
my kids are not off limits. I know, that there's
like the spectrum. One is like one side the spectrum,
it's like see everything. The other side is like putting
stickies over their faces.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Like I don't fall in either of those categories. But
my children are not my fault. My husband is not
my fault. This is like I don't have a family page,
and I don't have a desire to pivot.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Some of my some of my.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Like followers, my audience that have been like rocking with
me for a while, they're here for like the long haul.
So they're here for like all of the things. They're
like jess is pregnant, like let's see the things, you know,
like she's this, let's see the things. And I'm all
here for that. But I don't ever want my content
to just be focused solely on motherhood. It is primarily Jessica, right,
(10:09):
and so if my children then fall into that somehow,
like you talked about, like you know, my kids playing
with the camera, if that's something that like my son
is like I can't shoot around him, my one year old,
because he loves the tripod and he's like always kind
of like he's like let me address it for you, mom, right, right, right,
(10:30):
and so like those are the moments that I would
share because it's something that like I'm trying to work
and like this is my reality, right, but it's not
solely about him really, you know. Or it may just
be like my story and my kids are just like
a part of that life. But I just it's just
because I don't have a desire to do that. Now
(10:50):
I do again, I do think it's incredibly valuable, you know,
because I'm one of those people that are.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Following the mom and.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Like following this seeing like all of the things. But
it's just like it's just not a desire of mind
to do.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I love it just goes back to and I think
this could be another reason why that your your brand
has done so well is because people talk a lot
professionally about brand identity. But as a believer, I think
that first and foremost our identity is found in Christ
and that should just spill out and over and everything
that we do. And I think that when you show
up knowing who you are, because you know whose you are,
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then those types of pressures don't really impact you the
same way as it does the world. And it just
seems like that you've been rocks steady, cist like that's
what is so intriguing about what you've done. I think
that you know, when I had even saw them, when
I had just reached out to you, the thing that
the Lord had put on my heart is that you
just transition.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, like that was the thought.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
But this was the interesting part in the midst of
I don't know all the behind the scenes transitions that
you've had, but it seems to have been that you've
been very consistent that you understand the assignment and you
exit cute it. Well, there's a level of stewardship that
you have over your platform and the value that you
bring to your audience and your community, and that is
(12:10):
seen like to the blind, I'm sure like it's it's
so it's so tangible.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
But I did want to pivot to talk.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
About since we are going to talk about the pressures
that maybe the world does experience, and maybe some advice
that you can offer, even like some believers that are
struggling right now to figure out this new wave of
social media and marketing and the direction that we're going in.
I know that there was the big uh TikTok scare
for I don't know if it was twelve or twenty
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four hours, I don't know, but it was something happened
within the time of twelve and twenty four hours, and
there was a lot of chatter. There was a lot
of fear around this because there was a lot of
people that were making, if not all, a large majority
of their finances was coming from TikTok, and they are
really trying to see like where to pivot, how to
(13:02):
pivot and all those things. And I don't know if
TikTok that specific platform is like really really huge to you,
But I am very curious because I do know that
you do have other platforms if for whatever reason, if
those were ever to be in talks of closing down
or things like that, what do you think that you
would do or what would be your first stance, what
(13:23):
would be your posture? Right, I'm just very curious because
I think that could encourage other people that are like, hey,
we don't own these platforms, We don't control the decision
making behind the technology of how the algorithm goes and
all these things. But these are two things I know
for sure, So I'm just curious what those would be
(13:45):
for you.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, Okay, So I got to answer this in a
couple of different ways. Right.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
First, I'm going to talk to the believer, right, because
you know, it's a different conversation if we're honest, right,
it's a different conversation, and our believers, you have the
first and foremost understand You talked about purpose, You talked
about like what it is not like you are here
to do right. If God has called you to do something,
(14:11):
He's called you to do it, and he's going to
make the way for you to do it right. And
so there's no TikTok, there's no Instagram, there's no YouTube,
there's no website, there's no internet that's going to stop
God from putting inside of you what it is that
he has called you to do right.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
And so that is like.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
First and foremost is that trusting him that whatever it
is that he's called you to do, that he's going
to make away.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
He's gonna make a way.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
And so you may have thought it was going to
come through TikTok, and that may have been like what
you've been rocking with for that season.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
But if TikTok is no longer, if social.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Media is no longer, it doesn't mean that the dream
or the the what he's put inside of you is dead, right.
It just means that, Okay, it's time to pivot once
it's something else. Let me listen and hear to what
it is that God is telling me to do next. Right,
So I would say, that's that's kind of my speech
(15:08):
to the believer, But on a more general sense, it's
still trust, right, still trusting that, like okay, trusting in
your creativity, trusting that like.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
If you've done it before, you can do it again.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I had this was like I think twenty twenty two,
twenty twenty one, my page was disabled. My page on
Instagram and TikTok is not my main platform, so I
don't I didn't really have like that type of like
scare for myself, but I could understand, like what if
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that were to happen to me, And it has happened
to me in a general since.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
The whole platform didn't go away, but my page got
taken away.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
My page got taken away. Someone was impersonating there's always
people impersonating me. Someone was impersonating me, and I reported
their page and maybe about like five minutes later, I
got a notification saying, like your page has been disabled
and I could not log in, And this had been
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going on for like I would say, like it felt
like three years, but it was like probably like two
or three weeks and I was finally able to like
get my page back. But in that time, I literally,
I mean first what went through me was like panic.
I'm like, oh snap, Like what am I about to do?
(16:38):
I had partnerships that were like coming up, and I'm
like scrambling trying to figure out, like Okay, what do
I tell the brand?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like what do I do?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You know all of these things, and so it is
you know, using wisdom to making sure that you're diversifying
your content on different platforms, right, so not solely relying
on one single platform. And then again, like you said
it before, we don't own these platforms.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
We don't own.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Instagram, so you know, TikTok, we don't owe those platforms.
And so getting out on the YouTube's building your own website,
you know, having a place where your people can find
you that is not relyant on social media. So that
was my first thing was like a panic of like okay,
oh my gosh, what am I gonna do? And then
(17:25):
I said to myself, it was like, jes like, if
you did this before, and I mean this was like
before I grew significantly.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
But I'm like, if you did it before, you can
do it again and you can continue to do it again.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
And so that's sort of like the message is like
one platform should not stop you. It's not to say
that it may not, you know, take a hit to
your pockets right away, but you should always be moving
in multiple directions, having a community here, having a community here,
having ideas, you know, like, what is it that I
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can do if social media was gone completely?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
How can I still get what's inside of me out? Right?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
So you have a podcast, you might show up on
social media and share that content on social media, but
ultimately the message is still the message, right, and so
we can get that message out without the use of
social media. And so it's like, be creative on how
you can get whatever it is that's applicable to you out.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, that's set. Listen, Jess. I mean you're hitting all
the hits, okay, but it's so true.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I think that I really and maybe this is a
question that for the Kickstarter session to where for people
that are just getting started, because you have people that
have been in the social media game for a while
that kind of like have figured out their groove and
know how to maneuver. But then you have people that
either their transitions out of corporate, their first time ever,
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their start. You know, there's a lot going on right
now with people having to pivot their jobs and their careers,
and I do think that a lot of people are
probably going to take to trying to build their own platform,
trying to build their own kind of like entrepreneur, whatever
that looks like. So when it came to the podcast,
when it came to even say Grace, I really asked
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the Lord the question because one of the things that
I struggled with was I did not want to be
in the content creation space. Like I really truly liked
the behind the scenes. I liked kind of like cheering
my sisters on behind the scenes and supporting whatever they had.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But the Lord just really put.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It heavy on my heart that if you strip it
all away, it's really about the heart of hearing your
sister's testimonies and they need to be shared, and this
is the way I'm doing it right. So what I
would have over like if me and you were in
the same city, this would be like, hey, do you
(20:03):
want to grab coffee?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Do you you know what I'm saying? Do you want
to have lunch? You know?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And let's just kind of like unpack all the things.
So how do you do what you do in real
life and just bring you get what I'm saying, Like,
I think that's another thing too, is like not trying
to create a different persona online that you have to
keep up with, right too, because it's not sustainable and
as a believer, the juxtaposition of trying to balance that
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is just like that's not sustainable and possibly not fulfilling,
you know. So do you have advice for like a
Kickstarter series, like what are the top three things that
you did when you first started out your content creation journey?
Would you still advise people to do those three things
(20:51):
or do you feel like they've changed over the span
of the last five to seven years and now this
is what you would encourage them to do.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
As far as building on the social media.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Okay, So let's just scenario this.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Let's say there's someone who recently found out that they
lost their job, okay, right, and they're like, okay, but
I have a well of knowledge okay from being in
their specific industry for over ten plus years, how do
I create an online brand to represent that?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Where would they start?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
What would be three questions and things that they should
ponder on and sit with first?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
So I so I used to offer I still offer coaching.
I don't do it too much anymore. But one of
the first things that I say to my client, if
you or my client, would be what is your iehelp statement?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Right? So that is and it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Have to be I help, It could be I encourage,
I teach whatever, but as I help who to do what?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Right?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
So figuring in essence, that is figuring out your target audience,
and that's figuring out what value it is that you're
going to provide, because that's what social media is about.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Like I know, back in the day, twenty two thousand
and seven, whatever year it was, we used to always
just share our lunch.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It was like our visual die. Instagram was our visual diet.
Everyone you know, just selfies.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
But now that is completely not not the scenario. And
your audience in essence wants something from you, right, So
you are here to provide people with value, whether that
be entertainment, knowledge, you know, something you're here to provide
them with. And so you have to figure out what
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value it is that you provide. It's not it's not
that you can just take great content with your phone
or your camera.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
That's not enough unless that's the specific value that you provide.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
It's not enough to just have pretty content, right, And
so figuring out who it is that you want to
speak to and be specific, you know, is it is
it women, is it black women?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Is it young black women? Is it you know, Christian women?
Is it? Like? Who are you talking to? Right? Because
that is where you're going to be able to really
target that message. Right.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
You don't want to be like, all right, I'm just
gonna throw it out and see what sticks, right, because
it might be applicable to somebody else. But you want
to know exactly who it is that you're speaking to.
So I would say, first figuring out that I help statement,
figuring out the value that you provide, and then start.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
To come up with those ideas. Right you get on,
get on the platform.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So I would say, if you know, depending on what
your bandwidth is, right, figuring out what type of content
you're comfortable creating and what platforms best align with that.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Right? If you're like a talker. If you're just like.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I just I have all this value that I want
to provide and it's in the way of talking, like
having those conversations, maybe Instagram is not the place, right
because if you're a if you're a talker, you know,
after fifteen seconds, Instagram is like.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
It's not abod.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
So maybe YouTube would be the best place for you, right,
Or you know, if you just like those short you
have like little tidbits of information, maybe TikTok is the place, right,
So figuring out like where your home base is, and
then later on, you know, don't overwhelm yourself. Later on
you can can go and figure out like, Okay, well
how do I take this one piece of content and
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make it in three different ways?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
So for instance, we're having this conversation right now, this
is more long form. This could live on YouTube primarily,
but you can also take a little excerpt, put it
on you, put it on TikTok, put it on Instagram.
You know, maybe like do some b ro shot for Instagram,
you know, give Instagram what it wants.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
So just figuring out later on, like what platforms like
you can like expand.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
To, and then I would say, like, figure out what
your consistency schedule looks like. What does consistency look like
for you? It may not look like every single day.
It doesn't have to be every day, you know. That's
something I would say that has changed significantly from the past.
You don't have to post every single day. But if
you want this to be sustainable, if you're figuring out,
(25:30):
like hey, like I just whether you left your job,
you got fired from your job, you just your job,
let you go whatever it is, and you're trying to
make this a like an income, you're trying to create
income from this, you have to be consistent. And so
it's figuring out what does consistency look like for me realistically,
not oh, I have five video ideas that I'm going
(25:52):
to post this week and then next week.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I got you up once you know, what does that
look like? Consistent?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
What can you, like on a long time basis follow
through with? So I would say, like, I know I
probably gave a lot of information, but I would say
that that's like three things that you can like really
really really get started with.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
So literally, as you were talking, the three things that
I got was identify who you are and what you're doing.
I got be willing to execute the plan, and then
I also got be disciplined yes to the plan that
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you're executing. So if we're going to talk about like, guys,
if you're taking notes, like that's what I got, like
figure out like who you are and what you're doing
with this, because I also think something that's so key,
and maybe a lot of people don't talk about this,
but that when you are in a transition season and stay,
a lot of times people do need to take a
moment and really sit with the Lord and just say, Okay,
(26:55):
are you pivoting me in a completely different space. Sometimes
we want to bring everything from the previous season into
the next season because we want that new season to
have value, and we think that the only way that
it will have value is if like, Okay, Lord, you
got to use these last ten years of all this
stuff to make it make sense or why I got
(27:16):
laid off, or why you move me here, or why
things look different than what it looks like. But sometimes
and I feel like I said this on an episode before,
like there's that phrase that people have said, like not
every good thing as a god thing. And then the
Lord told me one time like, yeah, but when I
do things, they're all good things. But then there's when
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I'm doing a new thing, and you have to trust
that the new thing is going to be as good
as the last thing that I did, because he only
does good things, yes, And I think sometimes that we
have to remember that in transition when we're making those
pivots and not being so quick to commit to something
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out of fear of I don't Lord, I don't know
if I trust you with this, you know, And even
to the insecure person that doesn't like to be in
front of the camera or just doesn't know if their
stuff is going to land, the Lord's sovereignty is bigger
than your insecurity and that let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And I don't even want to interrupt you.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I don't go it's like you're speaking to me right now,
because you're speaking.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I went to school for photography, right graduated.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I graduated college in two thousand and nine, okay, with
my bachelor's degree in photography.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So I come from a history of like that. But
let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
After college, after I graduated, I was so scared of
and there was no social media at the time. Really
there was Facebook, but it wasn't what we have today.
So the world of like social media didn't exist, right,
how content creation was not a thing. So I was
so afraid of using my camera, of like showing my work,
(29:06):
of just taking this identity of photographer videographer. You know,
forget video. I didn't even touch video, but photographer. I
was so fearful of it. And I spent years, on
ten plus years away from it. I didn't even touch it,
didn't even touch a camera because I was so afraid.
(29:26):
And so I was doing this job and this job,
and when you were talking just now, you know, it's
just like the Holy Spirit is speaking to me because
it's like that's my story, you know, and you think that,
like you think that, like okay, well I spend so
much time, you know, doing this, and it's not for nothing.
It's not for nothing. And so I went back to school.
(29:50):
I got my master's in mental health counseling, and all
these things were great things, and God was doing a
new thing.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
But it's funny because it's like He took all of
those things and made it into one. Who could have
who could have said that when I graduated that I
was going to take my photography skills, my counseling skills,
these skills, those skills, those skills, and put it all
together to make what it is that I am today.
(30:19):
Who would I wouldn't have you do what you know?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
And so just that's that's just an encouragement to whoever
that like it's that time is not wasted.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, that time was not wasted.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
And God is if you're walking and moving in purpose
and you don't always have to know what the purpose is, right,
always know what it is. You just got to trust
God because I did not know that this was the
purpose for my life. I didn't know that I was
just walking and like all right, God, like I feel
like this is you. I feel like I'm you know,
(30:56):
I feel like I'm going in the right way that
you want me to go.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I don't hear are you telling me to go somewhere else?
So I'm just gonna keep walking necessarily know where I'm going.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, I would look at.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I would look at other people and say like dang, God,
like why you know? Like my for my husband, for example,
my husband is a music producer.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
He's a musician. He's been a musician his.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Entire life, right, and he has purpose is like very
clear for him. You look at him, you could you know,
he's a church musician, he's you know, does it for you.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
It's very clear what he's designed to do. And I
would look at him, you.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Know, even when we're dating or just other people, and
be like, dang God, like you know, I feel like
it's so clear for them, Like I feel like You've
laid it out for them, and I'm asking you, what
is it that you what is it that You've.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Designed for me to do? Like, what is it that
you have for me to do?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
And it's just like just trust me, Just trust me,
Just trust trust me. And so it's just like taking
those small steps. I know I might be going off
on a tangent right now.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I felt it. I thought, well, the Holy Spirit was shifting.
I was like, okay, this was not in my notes.
Let we's just gonna go ahead me on rock and roll.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
But it's no.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Transition like you said, it's transitioning and trusting Him with
those transitions, trusting Him with every single step.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's those moments of God is so bigger than our create,
our own creativity. He's so bigger than our own ideas.
The Bible says that His thoughts are not our thoughts.
So even my best thought, okay, when I feel like
this is a slam nunk, right, does not compete nor
(32:36):
compete with the sovereignty of the Lord. And I'm grateful
for that that my creator is so much greater and
bigger than my best day.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And my worst Okay, that he got me covered.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So even in those moments, and hopefully you know, I'm
thank you so much for sharing that because I didn't
know that. So I just you know, the Lord being,
and I will say that that is when I have
those moments of questioning, and I think that we all
have done it, you know, personally, professionally, creatively, like Lord,
what are you doing? Where are we going? How is
(33:13):
this gonna work? Does this really make sense? And you
and when you can see other people that seem like
you said so sure. It's so funny because my husband
was a worship pastor for fifteen years. I did not
know that you're so Now he's a musician. He writes
music for television and film. But since he was like ten,
he knew that he was going to be a music
That's wild to me, okay, but the Lord reminds me
(33:37):
constantly remember who your God is, and that always humbles
me and gets me together. And I love when you say,
because that's the thing too, that a lot of people
struggling with, Well, how do I know that it's God?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
How do I know the path that I'm walking on
right now is where the Lord wants me? I'm telling you, like,
as a disciple, as a believer of Jesus Christ, we
are called to walk by the spirit. And I will
tell you when there are moments to where you step
out of line, the Holy Spirit will rebuke you.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yes, yes, there will.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Be something like the conviction that you feel like something's
off here. I don't know if it's me, if it's this,
if it's where I am, but something is not going
And that's just the grace and the mercy of God
to that's not a bad thing, you know. The rebuking
of the Holy Spirit is what we need because He
wants us walk.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
In step with me. So if you walk in and
step and you're kind of like it seems okay, I.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Don't know either way. Listen, the Holy spirits do it
its job. It's walking with you right like, So I
love that so much. So I think this is like
a good pivot into my last question, because you know,
the title is the podcast is kind of like the
questions we ask got So I'm really curious, like and
(35:02):
maybe it's a recent question, or maybe it was one
of those questions during this season of transition and really
being like, Lord, how are you going to work all
this out? What was a question that you asked God
to where his answer just kind of like was like who,
or maybe he hasn't responded yet, and you're sitting back
like you.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Want so you want to.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
I feel like this is a season that I'm in.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
We didn't touch on this too much, right, like being
a mom, being a wife, and being a creator someone
who loves what they do.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
It's been rough. It's been rough. It's been the motherhood
streets are real, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I'm a at home mom, you know, and I'm so
grateful and blessed to be able to raise my children
at home, Like it's such a blessing, but in reality,
like it drives me crazy sometimes.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
And so one of the things that I've been like
talking to God about is like God, like you know, how,
like how are you how can I find like how
can I make the time to like do it all right,
like I want to be I want to be like
the best mom.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
I want to be the best wife, and I want to.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Like still be like killing it at my job, like
God like make the time, Like how do I do
all of these things?
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Right?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
And so you know, it's funny that, like you said,
like the answer be like right, I haven't you know?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
God is like you asking me the wrong question? Right,
the wrong question says, you ask me the wrong question.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
And so I'm He's what it is that he's teaching
me is to trust again with the trust we talked
about transition. We're talking about trust to trust him with
my time right because what is happening is what's happening
is is like sometimes I'll like, for example, like devotion time,
(37:14):
my time spent with him before I had kids, before
I got married, singles.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I hope you're listening because.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Right here before there were all of those interruptions, right
I I could be like, look like you know, first thing,
I first thing I do.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I'm going to get up and I'm going to you know,
spend some time with the Lord or I'm gonna you know,
sometimes it would be like an evening like thing like okay,
like little daytime with the Lord. Just spend some time
in devotions or go out to a coffee, you know,
just whatever I wanted, you know, like whenever I wanted.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
And I don't have that.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Luxury right now, right, I don't have the luxury to
just of like a specific time right like no matter what,
like it's gonna happen at this time. That's not the
way that it works right now. And so that for me,
I'm a very type a person and I operate and
I thrive on order, right So to be like, oh,
(38:18):
we don't know what's happening today like kills me, right.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
So that's that's another thing that I'm working through.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
But sometimes I will say like, okay, well I get
up in the morning and I'm like, instead of spending
time in devotions, I'm gonna go wash the distance right
now because I know that the boys are sleeping, and
I know that, you know, like I can just get ahead.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Of the day right now, right, I know.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
If I can get that done, then I can spend
some time in devotion, like even if the boys are up,
I know that, you know, just like all this like
trying to busy work and not that it doesn't matter,
not that it's not important to keep your house clean,
but in this we talk about the Holy Spirit. Sometimes
you're like, Okay, well, how do I know if God
is speaking to me? You will know, right, you will know,
(39:04):
and you may not know the first time. But God,
if he's trying to get a message to you, he
will get on your nerves, like take it so that
you cannot not hear him.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Right.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
So I remember specifically one morning I could feel that
little inkling that was just like, go spend time with me, right,
don't worry about the dishes, Go.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Spend time with me.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
And I'm like, nah, that's just like that's just me talking, right,
like me talking like let me go do the dishes.
And I didn't listen, and I went and I did
the dishes, and I could just feel, go spend me.
Go spend time with me. Go spend time with me.
And I say all of this to say that God
is going to he sees you one and what it
(39:49):
is that He has for you in this season is
going to look a lot different than what you may
have envisioned for yourself. But trust Him with your time. Again,
we go back to purpose. If this is what God
has called you to do. And again it may look
a little bit different from the plans that you have
in your own mind, but his plans are better.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
He will, he will make the way his his his mind.
His abilities are beyond reason, they're beyond math. Right, Like
he will open doors that never existed.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Right.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
But it's like be obedient. Yeah, trust him with your time.
Right if if he can trust you, right, if he
tells you to do something, or if he sees that,
you know what, look at my door. I know that
she wants to make sure that the.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
House is clean, that this is this, but she's taking
out the time and she's spending with me. Trust and
believe those doors are gonna open. Yeah, all doors I'm
gonna open.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
And it's not like a oh, I'm gonna do this
because he's going to do that. But it's about love,
it's about trust. It's just knowing that like God has
the best for you, he has the best for us,
like you are his creation. Right, and so this is
like a lessing that it's like an ongoing journey for
me because I have not gotten an answer.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
But that is also how God works with me, because
can you like.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Answers, right, I like answers, and so it's like he's
not like being like okay.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Boom boom, go on, it's like, no, I'm going to
give you a little bit. I'm going to give you
a little bit. I'm going to give you a little bit.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
And so if it's like a continual trusting him and
like Danga.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Like I know that was you.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I like this so much.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
One I want to say thank you because I think
that just your level of transparency and vulnerability, I feel
like in this conversation, I definitely know that it's edifying me.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I know that it has to be edifying people that
are listening.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
And then the other thing that I think just really
stood out when you were talking was that there is
and I think, you know sometimes and I don't really
like to give the enemy too much credit on the
things that he be doing. But the thing that I
have noticed in my own life that he has that
he tries to do often, and where I can get
(42:16):
hung up is that sometimes I forget being his daughter
is more than enough, and I think sometimes we forget
as daughters of the king, there is grace upon grace
upon grace upon grace that he is allotted to us
(42:37):
that he is not mad with us, that he is
not disappointed with us, that he is not ashamed of
our week or our month on how we chose to
set it up. He truly just desires to dwell with
us and to be the focus of our you know
what I'm saying. And I think the enemy loves to
(42:59):
play with us. The more titles we get, the more
like it's so funny that you were talking. People don't
talk about this with Everybody's like, I want to us,
but I want to I like it.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Well.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Before I got married, I had a lot of time
just to sit and dwell with the Lord, right, And
during those times it's why it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
And during those times and seasons I was crying.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
I asked the Lord where my husband was, right, and
that He's like, oh, don't you work right? Yep, And
then you get into the busyness of stuff and then
you're like, man, Lord, I miss having that that that
hour and a half just empty in in my in
my house where no one else is here, There's there's
nothing else on the agenda. I don't have any other
(43:40):
responsibilities at this point other than myself and just spending
time with you and you forget how.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Important that is.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
And that's another reason why I think, like, don't despise
the single season, but also guys, don't despise this season
of when you don't have a list of things to
do on your to do list.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Some times we just.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Want to be busy because we feel like that adds
value to us. We're value because we are daughters and
sons of the Most High and period. Yes, yes, So
I think that that's so encouraging and it's beautiful just
to kind of like see your relationship with the Lord
(44:20):
and your walk with him, and I think that that
says so much Behind the camera, it's kind of like
you are petitioning the Lord and talking to him and
asking him and just being very vulnerable with him. And
I think that's what it's all about. Like, Lord, help
me make it make sense. But I'm just reminded, like
he's not mad at us, he's not disappointed, he's not ashamed, right,
(44:45):
you know, And when the Holy Spirit tungus on us,
it's kind of like comes it. And usually when he
does that, it's because later on we're going to be like, man,
I should have spent some more time with the Lord
at least for me.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Every time I.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Have missed like Okay, I'll do it later, something happens
within that day.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Or week, and I was like I just I needed
And then I'm like the Holy was talking at me earlier.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
It was like you just just come on over and
just come seconds.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
I struggled with as a new mom, you know, and
I never heard anybody talk about that like when you
first I'm talking about like those first few weeks you know,
you have a newborn, and you know, you talk about, okay,
you're married, you know, yeah, help, your husband is doing
(45:42):
his own devotions. Sometimes you guys do devotions together. But
but that newborn life, when you're not sleeping, you're not
you don't have time. You don't even know when you're
going to use the bathroom talking about like great time
expread with the Lord. I felt so much guilt, you know.
That was something that was one of the things you said,
was there was so much guilt. I felt like, God,
(46:04):
I don't even know I'm not sleeping. I'm not you know,
I don't know how I'm gonna have like literally have
time to spend with you.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
And I felt so bad. I felt, and I didn't.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
Say it out loud, because you know, those are one
of those things that you kind of like are ashamed of, like, oh,
I'm you know, as a Christian, I'm supposed to be
doing I'm supposed to be doing this.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
I'm supposed to be spending and I'm like, I just didn't.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
And you know, my mother in law and like you
know my pastor as well, like they share with me.
They were like, just like when you're carrying that baby,
when you're when that baby is crying and you're singing,
you just that is your time. That's your time. You
(46:46):
put your worship music on and that is your time,
and that is enough. Yes, he sees you.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
It's like a ten.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
He sees you, and he will meet as long as
you are doing your best, like you're put in your
best foot forward. He's not gonna he's he's not gonna
be like.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah, well you had two hours of sleep right on,
and like's not his character is, you know.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
And I remember him speaking to me this was probably
like a week into my my first being born, and
I remember the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit for me,
how how he works with me. I don't hear his
voice audibly many times, but that was one time where
he says, jess everything, like you are doing enough and
(47:33):
everything that I everything that you need I have already
put inside of you.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yeah enough and so and that was all. That was all.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
It was like he's and visited me while barely and
and it was so precious. It was so precious because
you know, as a new mom, you're like, I don't
know what I'm doing this gay crying and he's looking
to me and what am I you know, and so
it's just again it's like you are that just like
(48:04):
that baby is looking at you are.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
As precious to the father as that you know. So
it's just like trust your dad.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Yeah, trust your dad.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Man, what a conversation.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Come on, Lindsey f I love.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
This so much. Well, all right, listen, we're gonna stay
in contact.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
We just have to.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
But for people that are not following you, where can
they go? Follow your stuff? Connect with you, learn more
about what it is that you do.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
Yes, it's Jessica Lindsay on all platforms, and that's Lindsay
with L L I N D s A y so, Instagram, TikTok.
I'm on YouTube too that I'm trying to get my
life to get over there. But it's Jessica Lindsay on
all platforms, and then it's Jessica Lindsay dot com.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Come on over there.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Too, Guys, thank you so much for tuning into this
week's episode of the KAS podcast.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
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Speaker 1 (49:07):
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