July 18, 2024 • 38 mins
What if the answer is repent? Featuring Brandon Watson In this episode of "The Kay Wats Podcast", Kay sits down with her husband, musician and artist Brandon Watson and discusses what the last six months have meant to them. They share the new things God is teaching them about trust, faith, and repentance.
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Hey guys, Welcome to the kWatts Podcast. I'm your host Kashawn Watson,
but you know me as k Wattsand I'm super excited that you decided
to join me today. This isthe podcast where we chat about the questions
we ask God, we share testimonialsabout healing, wholeness, and forgiveness.
It doesn't matter what season of lifeyou may be in or the journey you
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may be currently walking through. Iknow that this podcast will bless you.
At the end of the episode.If you feel like that this has done
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forget to subscribe again. Welcome tothe k wots podcast. Hey guys,
welcome to an all new episode ofthe k WATS Podcast. I'm your host
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Kashawn Watson, but you know meas Kawats and I am super excited about
this week's gus. Y'all, it'snear and dear to my heart to announce
this person because you know, ifyou know, then you know this is
the first person that believed in thepottodcast, that invested in the podcast.
It's actually how we met is bythe podcast, well through the podcast.
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I don't know grammar maybe right,but at this point I want to welcome
my love bug. That's right,mister Brandon Watson. Well, thanks babe
for that awesome introduct introduction, andhello everyone, thanks for having me again.
It is tradition that I don't takelightly about coming on every season.
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That's right, and this season isspecial. Oh, because we've done that,
We've done some life in Franklintonnessee.Now, oh okay, and you're
already diving in. No, I'mjust saying, you know, I'm excited
to talk about all the things,and I'm excited to talk about where God
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has us in the season that we'rein, and I'm excited to be on
the podcast. So thank you forhaving me. You are so welcome.
So I was actually kind of thinkingabout this because I was thinking while I
was saying that it's a tradition.Did I have you on last season?
Yeah? I was on. Doyou remember what we talked about? Yeah,
we talked about faith is an action? Ooh yeah, your faith is
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an Action's an action to have faith? Ooh yeah. Okay, this is
good because this actually is a greatpick up to where I would like this
conversation and go with one you alreadytalked about the fact that we've kind of
like we are officially like settled intoa new city. We're here, We're
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here, we love it, welove it. It's home. That means
that. Listen, that word meansso much to me, Like, after
fifteen years of moving around quite abit, to be able to just like
freely call a place home just meanta lot. So I love that you
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feel the same way that I feel. Like, of course this is the
same way. I love the factthat you feel the same way that I
feel that to be in agreement,listen when to agree of those who know,
no, well, I did wantto talk about some things. So
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funny fact, sometimes Brandon and Iwill have like topics that we kind of
like, you know what, let'sdive into this, And on this episode,
we really didn't come in with atopic. We really came in to
kind of like just check in,do an update, let you guys know
what's going on over here. Butalso I guess to share a little bit
about what's on our heart, likequestions that we're talking to God about in
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this season of our lives, andjust kind of like where we are.
I think one of the first questionsthat I would love to throw out to
you, and I think that Ihave been asking the Lord, is if
you define yourself as a believer,Okay, yeah, then does that automatically
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mean that you fully trust God?Because isn't trust part of belief? I
know that's really deep in the firstcouple of minutes of the book. Well,
and I'm glad we're I was,cause I was gonna bring it up
too. I was gonna bring upthe trust aspect of our relationship with God
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because believing is, you know,faith is the evidence of basically the result
of hope. It's things of faithis the evidence of things hope or but
not seen yet. And that's whatour belief is. And who God and
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who God is to us is.I have faith to believe that God is
who he says he is, thathe sent his son Jesus to Dona cross
for me, for you, forall humanity, for all sins to be
wiped away, for the stripes onhis back, to take every curse of
sin, but also take every cursivesickness and illness away. I believe in
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that right. I have hope inthat, I have faith in that even
though I've never seen that I havefaith that that is absolutely true. Right,
But just like anything and in trustis such a cliche word that we
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talk about, and I feel likewe've talked about for a very long time
in modern dating. Oh yeah,like, oh, it's not easy for
me to trust. It's you know, my trust was broken when you did
this, and it's gonna take sometime for us to build our trust back.
Right. There's so many facets tothe word trust, and there's so
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many things that can cause us tonot put our trust into someone or something
but then put it in something else. But going back to your real question
of do believers fully trust God,I'm gonna save even from experience, no,
because there's so many times that indifferent seasons of life, we fall
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out of trust with God in certainareas because of fear, because of worry,
because of doubt, because of thingsnot coming to pass as soon as
we thought or how we thought itwas gonna happen. And it could be
for anything. It could be fora financial breakthrough, it could be for
a sickness to be here ill,that could be for a relationship to be
mended, and you just don't seeit happening, and in fact it keeps
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getting further and further away the moreyou feel like you're being more obedient and
faithful. And that does cause usto subconsciously and unaware move forward and lose
trust with God in certain aspects.And yet the simplicity of a relationship with
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the Lord is he doesn't want usto come bearing something. He wants us
to come just fully his and hewants us to come with a heart that
is under submission and also postured andready for freedom. And there's so many
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things that you know, we couldreally go in the weeds about and go
super deep about. And well,okay, so after kind of like listening
to that, this is what I'vekind of like gathered because I think that
a lot of times people say,oh, well, if you're if you
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oe of a little faith, thatit's a faith issue. At least I've
heard that in church. Church culturewe say it's a faith issue. Worldly
culture, we say we have trustissues, isn't there There was a girl
that has a song called trust Issues, and I actually really really liked the
song and then I start listening tothe lyrics and I'm kind of like,
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this isn't helping my faith at all? Okay, I need to stop singing
this song. The lyrics are talkingabout having trust issues with trusting people,
and then I'm sitting back, like, you know what, I'm a little
skeptical of that person. I don'tknow. But the reason why I bring
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this up is because I feel likewhen we talk about our walk with the
Lord, when we talk about believingGod and totality of who he is and
believing that he is sovereign, thathe is good, that he is faithful,
all the things about his character,like I believe that God is who
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he says he is. I thinkwhen I really start unpacking areas to where
I don't trust him or haven't trustedhim, it really comes in like I
believe he is who he says heis. I believe that he can do
what he says that he can do. I just don't know if that is
relevant to me. Yeah, AndI don't know where or when those little
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seeds of separation of the Scripture andthe Word of God began to because it's
a scripture of who he is andwhat he can do for all of his
children, and yet so many ofus kind of like believe God can do
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those things. I just don't knowif he can do it for me.
Right, God is those things,but I don't know if He's going to
be able to be those things forme. And it just really kind of
like had me thinking and really posingthat question. Is that in the areas
of my life where I don't trustGod, what I've learned, it's because
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one I've believed some lie that theenemy has said to me, some lie
that God has forgotten me. Goddoesn't see me, God has not forgiven
me. And because of that,I don't know if God is going to
show up and love me the waythat the Word says, the way Scripture
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tells us that he will. Sothe reason why I bring this up is
because I think lack of trust isreally a result of areas in our lives
that we believed the lie of theenemy too long. And I had set
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this on last week's episode. Italk about like how the enemy doesn't really
know any other like tactics, likehe he's not around here learning new things.
He does the same thing over andover and over and over again.
Right, he tells lies. TheBible says that he is the father of
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lives, and but our job asbelievers, as disciples, as daughters is
to tell the truth, and sonsis to tell the truth. And sometimes
we can do that really good,tell the truth to other people kind of
like in a haughty shall I say, in a prideful way, like we
l we love to pull out scriptureto other people and say, well,
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the Bible says da da da dada da da. But then when it
comes to in areas in our ownlife, we don't. We don't r
recite or meditate on the word asmuch as we recite it to other people.
We don't do that for ourselves.No, And I think that is
like an a a slow burn wherethe enemy has kind of like really hindered
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a lot of us from being ableto to to believe the fullness of the
promise. If that makes sense.Yeah, Well, to connect all of
it, because this is what's soI think even more powerful and more interesting
that I don't think you and Iare the only ones that struggle with this
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or have struggled with the trusting partof with God. Even knowing God and
seeing the miraculous and the power ofGod, you still have seasons of doubt,
and you still have seasons of unbeknownstlack of trust and trust issues with
your father, your maker. Andwhere I am always taken back to to
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this standpoint of is when Jesus wasout and he was out in the crowd,
and it's in Mark chapter nine,and he's dealing with a father and
a son who is very demon possessedand this demon is, you know,
completely controlling this this this child andGod. Jesus starts having this dialogue with
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the father and you know, heasked the father of this of this boy,
do you believe if anything is possiblefor a person, do you believe?
And the father instantly cried out andto Jesus, the Son of God,
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and says, I do believe,but help my unbelief. And that's
a daily that's a daily walk withGod. That's a daily walk with Jesus.
But here it is of what's sointeresting, because I'm always like,
why do why do Christians? Andwhy do you know? We have all
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these encounters with God? We andwe know who God is, and we
we can see the miraculous happen inour lives and in others lives. You
could see it in front of youreyes and physically see miracles take place.
And I don't believe that there's doubt. If God exists, it's the standpoint
of God. But you haven't doneit for me. Well, in miracles
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that we're looking for in our livesaren't the same thing as for others.
It's ours, it's it's what we'rewalking through. And the interesting part of
this father who had an encounter withJesus, he's desperate to get his boy
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delivered and set free, and he'ssaying, I do believe, but help
my unbelief. This is happening whileJesus is on the earth in flesh.
But then when he right before heleaves, and he's telling his disciples,
don't be worried about me going,because I'm going to leave you with the
gift which is greater than even me, is the Holy Spirit. So if
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we are left with the gift ofthe Holy Spirit, who is even greater
than who the Son of God?Is right, why do we still face
not trusting god fully? Why dowe still face not calling on the wonderful
counselor to come and just break throughjust worry and anxiety and debt and doubt.
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And it's because it's those are seedsthat have been planted by the enemy
for so long, that they've festeredso long, and then we still entertaining
those thoughts in our own mind,whether it's lies that somebody has told us
out loud, and or whether it'sour own thoughts that we just take the
bait every time the enemy starts talkingin our mind and we just don't know
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how to shut it off. Butthen there's another layer to it, because
we can be believers and we canstill have eternal life through Jesus, but
we can definitely still be oppressed,and we can still have oppression that goes
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on in our soul that is undealtwith. But it is not as hard
as we try to make it.It literally is calling on the Holy Spirit
in serving the eviction. Notice toevery demonic entity that's been trying to cast
lies and tell us this or tryto keep us in a cycle. Because
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the blood of Jesus overcame it onthe cross, and with the blood of
Jesus comes freedom. So there's twothings, I think like one so and
even listening to that the question thatyou said that would say like, well,
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you did it for him, butyou didn't do it for me.
I think as you were talking,the reality of it is I don't even
know if it's the fact that,well, you did that for that person,
you didn't do that for me.I think the big question comes,
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well, why, And I thinkthat's where we begin to go down the
rabbit hole of why we think Goddidn't do for us? God didn't protect
us. Well, God didn't doX, Y and Z. And this
is when it goes into sure culture, because I do think that the church
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culture side of it, whatever denominationyou've grown up, you've taken, well,
God didn't do it for me.It must have been because of my
mistake, or it must have beenbecause of my sin, and it must
have been because I chose to doit. But Jesus gave us his mercy
and his grace and yet again hisblood that was shed on Calvary that wipe
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those away. The moment that weposture ourselves to call on him and completely
submit to the authority of Jesus andrepent. Once that, once repentance has
happened, it's done. We arein walking in righteousness, We are walking
in obedience. The moment that yourepent, you submit unto the authority and
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God is in control again. Butwe start buying the narrative of oh my
gosh, there's all of these things, and you know, all these sins,
and now I'm wearing the from andnow I'm wearing the condemnation from and
now I'm wearing the shame from it. And God is very clear on if
you repent, you are white cleanfrom that. And that is going back
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into you, posturing your heart toyet again build the trust with God that
one he deserves, but two thatreally just opens up your heart for you
to submit it to God under theauthority and walk out in full repentance,
not scared of judgment, but knowingthat God is so merciful and he loves
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us so unconditionally that he actually desiresus to be free more than we do.
The reason why I love that somuch is because what I think that
you just said, which I reallydo believe with that I'm learning in this
last year, is that maybe wedon't have a trust issue, Maybe we
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don't even have a faith this issue. Maybe we have of repentance and forgiveness
issue. Maybe it is very hardfor us to humble ourselves and say,
I don't know, Maybe it's hardto humble ourselves and be like, man,
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I'm messed up, and instead ofjust repenting and giving it to God,
I've been trying to make it tomake sense. I've been trying to
overspiritualize it. I've tried to putit on something else or someone else and
call it all these other things.But maybe it just was, like you
know what, Maybe it wasn't thefact that I was distracted. Maybe it
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wasn't a bad decision. Maybe Ijust didn't surrender my desires to the Lord,
and Lord forgive me for holding onto things that are unpleasing to you.
When did we overcomplicate it to makeget so many other things right?
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So I have never, i think, repented so much that I have in
the last six months, probably inthe entire time that I have called myself
a Christian, which has been forthe last gucha almost seventeen years. So
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I say that because, and withthat being said, I'll be honest.
I don't know if I've ever feltmore free like I don't know if I've
ever felt more free from judgment.There's something to that. There's something with
accepting forgiveness and repentance and then beingfree from judgment in the fear of man.
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There's something so powerful about that towhere I'm just kind of like we're
on to say thing here. Soyeah, so that's kind of like where
I've been kind of like the lastsix months. The other thing, which
I think is so funny to kindof like lighten the mood a little bit
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for people that are listening there,like man, y'all went y'all went straight
in in the first kind of likefifteen minutes. So if you guys have
been following along on my Instagram,hopefully you are. If you're not,
it's okay. You can follow meat I am k Watts. But one
of the things that I've been sharingin my insta story and on threads is
that I started reading the Bible fromthe beginning, from starting to cover.
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And now I'm gonna be real withyou, i have not been as consistent
as I want to be. I'mstill an Old Testament, Okay, But
I'm laughing because like as I'm readingthings like I'm like I'm in the bed
at night with Brandon and I'm kindof like i am like in all I'm
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in utter kind of like that certainthings I just didn't know right. So
my next question is, do youhave a favorite book of Old Testament,
and if so, why, Yeah, I think, And do you have
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a favorite person of Old Testament?Yeah, I love Samuel, okay,
the prophet, and I love thatwhole his whole life span. I love
him coming encounter with King David andannoying King David. I love, you
know, the things that he encountered. I also love Elijah and Elisha in
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that timeline. I love the storyof Elijah where he you know he is,
he obviously has done a lot,but the main one is when he
confronts Jezebel and tears down the prophetsof bel and just there's so much that
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in that moment that still in thismodern day we still encounter and see and
learn from. So I do lovethe Old Testament. H I love Psalms,
I love you love them. Ilove Proverbs. You know, there's
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just so many books. I can'tjust now nail it down to one.
I think one of the stories thatI hadn't really like sat and read and
really meditated on that I actually reallyreally enjoyed and really really just found delight
in is like really learning about Hannah. Oh yeah, yeah, and I
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thought about how she was I don'teven know if you know, I wanna
call it the journey of infertility,but I know that she went through a
season to where the Bible says thather wound was closed, that God actually
closed her room for a season ina time, which I think is so
interesting that that's even written in scripturebecause it's it's showing God being in control.
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But the thing that really stood outto me is that she was actually
taunted by the other woman that wasout here just having kids back to back.
Yeah, and yet and still Hannahworshiped, she prayed, and she
told God that she was going togive this son that she that she was
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believing she was gonna be blessed with, that she was gonna give this son
back to the Lord. And Goddid ended up blessing her with the son,
and I believe it with Samuel,who is my new favorite character.
I love me some Samuel. Butthe reason why I bring that up is
because part of this mature twenty twentyfour for me is kind of like being
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humble enough to admit what I don'tknow. Yeah, because I think sometimes
it is so quick and easy,especially as a as a believer. I
think sometimes we think that our roleand our job is to correct unbelievers,
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or to constantly rebuke our brethren,our brothers and sisters in Christ, like
that is our job to point outthe anointed, to point out this like
we really are like so which thereis a time and a season for all
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things right. But what I've beenlearning is is that before I can open
up my mouth to offer a levelof rebuke and correction, I need to
really know the word for myself.There is a level of responsibility that I
think that we miss. And evenafter knowing the word, it is now
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that you know it, you're notknowing it to then go out and then
use it as a weapon to provea point. And I think I'm learning
that the more that I am consuming, the softer my heart is. But
then also I see so much grace. But then I also see that God
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stands on his word. The thingsthat seem so hard are things that he
said he was going to do,and he does what he says. If
you do what he said, don'tdo the same way. He honors his
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word when you do what he tellsyou to do. It is that simple.
It's that simple. It is thatsimple. Okay, So what have
you learned in this season. Sinceyou've been here. One you've been thriving
in Franklin like you've been thriving inTennessee. You look like you've been here
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for years one way. But Ialways when we were here, I said
that Tennessee feels like it could becousins to Texas. Now that you've been
here for six months, what doyou think? Yeah, I really say
the same thing. Yeah, forsure. I Mean what I've learned in
you know, six months, butalso in the last several years is to
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really trust God fully, not justfor the big things, but for the
small things, which you would think, oh, that's actually easier is to
do it for the small things andnot so much the big things. But
it's really the small things that I'vereally it's been a process to just fully
you've embraced the Sabbath, which,praise the Lord. I've embraced the Sabbath.
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I've embraced, embraced rest. Yeah, how do you do you?
Honestly, not just to say like, oh, because there are times that
we can do things that the Bibletells us to do and maybe we feel
as though that they don't impact oureffectus, but we are going to obey
because the Bible tells us to dothem. But I'm very curious. Do
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you feel like taking a sabbath andresting has impacted you mentally, physically,
spiritually at all or do you feellike you do? Yeah? For sure,
I feel like. I mean,I'm more productive when I just sit
and disconnect, which is wow.Yeah. And I'm also, you know,
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learning again to meet God in theSecret Place. And while I've known
that and have known the presence ofGod as a worshiper and worship leader,
knowing the importance of the secret Placeand getting alone with God to be filled,
to go out and pour out,I've known you know that, but
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this has been different because I'm notpouring out how I was. And but
God is still worthy to be worshipedon how He's created me to worship.
And you know, so I'm Iam have learned to meet with God when
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I feel the prompting or I feelhis just this this still small voice to
be like, hey, spend sometime with me and to lean into that.
Can I asks you something when yousay the secret place, are you
able to put that into words ofdefinition of what that is? Or is
it just something that you feel likeI I hate to say if you know
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you know, cause I feel like, well, it's not if you know
you know. I mean, there'sthere's a couple references to the secret place
and the secret places. You know. God scripture says he hides us under
the shadow of his wing, andthat's a secret place we also, as
we can see in the Throne Roomof worship, that's the secret place where
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the saints and el elders bow beforehim and seeing Holy, Holy, Holy.
It's just joining in in that closettime of I'm joining in with the
Throne Room of Worship in this momentthat it is not for It's not for
me. It's actually for our King, and I'm just partnering with what's been
going on for all eternity already.And even though when I leave that moment
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i am filled. It does helpme, you know, but it's not
for me. It's for him,and that is the secret place. That
is the you know, I'm gonnadisconnect and listen to a worship song and
read the Word, or just lieon the floor and have my face in
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the carpet and just well, there'sthat pray and talk to him. There's
that I want to say, like, if you guys have I keep saying
if you're following me on Instagram anothershameless plug, I am, I am
following you, you better be followingme. But I really want to I
really want to honor you because peoplehave been watching and seeing the podcast,
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and you know, I said inthe intro that you were the first person
to invest. And but people don'tknow is that when I was getting started
before I think I released the firstepisode, like you set up the platform,
you paid to make sure that theplatform was going to do what it
needed to do, Like you reallyreally invested in that, and that just
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didn't start with the podcast. Peopletalk about congratulations on say Grace and congratulations
on you know where it's going andwhat it's doing, But I don't know
that people know that you were likethe emotional, spiritual support and truthfully a
financial investor in the very first one. And I think there's something to be
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said. And I know people cansay, like, oh, he's your
husband, he should support, right, Like that's you have a spouse,
you should support, right, ButI don't think that you just support because
I'm your spouse. There is somethingthat I feel as though that you really
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really are pouring into a seed thatI am sowing and that I am stewarding.
And I just want to say thankyou for that, because I've learned
that even though I was single fora long time and I was sewing and
sewing and sewing, there is somethingwhen you are in covenant with someone else
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and doing life with you has It'smade it a lot easier in general just
having a partner. But I alsodon't take for granted that when there is
a choice to be made to sewand to steward a seed in the season,
that it also puts a responsive abilityon you as a husband to cover
and to show up and support.And I just want to say that you've
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just done a phenomenal job. You'vedone a phenomenal job. You have showed
up consistently. You blew up twohundred balloons for say Grace, for people
that don't know that thought that theballoon decor was awesome. Your your lips
were pretty were pretty raw. Oh, but the content was gorgeous. Thank
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you so much. But I definitelyjust if that's something that I just want
to say, is that you're coveringhas not gone unnoticed. I know the
Lord has seen you just step inand just really really love me well.
And I can sit here and havea podcast and do these things because you're
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willing to show up and important andinvest and I'm grateful. So I just
wanna say thank you everybody that's listening. Yeah, well, thank you,
and I'm honored and to receive allof that and to be your husband and
do those things and support and cover. But I'm also excited to continue to
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learn how to love you well andcontinue to learn how to support you well
in so many other areas and somany other things. And you know,
so We're just gonna keep letting Godleading guide us. Amen. Let all
truth, Yes, Lord, alltruth? Yes. Is there anything that
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you want to end the podcast on? Again, Guys, there wasn't something
too specific that we have, butwe we like to keep tradition, and
Brandon will always be a guest,at least until he says no, I
cannot, but I will always bea guest. I'll always be a guest
on the podcast. But is thereanything that you want to end the podcast
on? Yeah? Just trust inGod and stay free. Trust in God,
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stay free, and where there's doubtor where there's worri or akst that
doesn't come from the Lord, andthat's a sign to get in the secret
place and to repent and to bowyour heart to King Jesus and submit to
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him and allow him to be kingover your life. And on that note,
guys, I just want to saythank you so much for tuning it
into this episode of the KWATS podcast. Definitely make sure that you hit the
like and subscribe button, head overto Instagram and follow at I Am Brandon
Watson. He has some things goingon and if you are in the Nashville,
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Franklin, or Tennessee area, definitelymake sure that you head over to
his website to see the next placethat he may be plan a show in
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Hey guys, Welcome to the kWatts Podcast. I'm your host Kashawn Watson,
but you know me as k Wattsand I'm super excited that you decided
to join me today. This isthe podcast where we chat about the questions
we ask God, we share testimonialsabout healing, wholeness, and forgiveness.
It doesn't matter what season of lifeyou may be in or the journey you
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may be currently walking through. Iknow that this podcast will bless you.
At the end of the episode.If you feel like that this has done
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forget to subscribe again. Welcome tothe k wots podcast. Hey guys,
welcome to an all new episode ofthe k WATS Podcast. I'm your host
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Kashawn Watson, but you know meas Kawats and I am super excited about
this week's gus. Y'all, it'snear and dear to my heart to announce
this person because you know, ifyou know, then you know this is
the first person that believed in thepottodcast, that invested in the podcast.
It's actually how we met is bythe podcast, well through the podcast.
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I don't know grammar maybe right,but at this point I want to welcome
my love bug. That's right,mister Brandon Watson. Well, thanks babe
for that awesome introduct introduction, andhello everyone, thanks for having me again.
It is tradition that I don't takelightly about coming on every season.
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That's right, and this season isspecial. Oh, because we've done that,
We've done some life in Franklintonnessee.Now, oh okay, and you're
already diving in. No, I'mjust saying, you know, I'm excited
to talk about all the things,and I'm excited to talk about where God
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has us in the season that we'rein, and I'm excited to be on
the podcast. So thank you forhaving me. You are so welcome.
So I was actually kind of thinkingabout this because I was thinking while I
was saying that it's a tradition.Did I have you on last season?
Yeah? I was on. Doyou remember what we talked about? Yeah,
we talked about faith is an action? Ooh yeah, your faith is
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an Action's an action to have faith? Ooh yeah. Okay, this is
good because this actually is a greatpick up to where I would like this
conversation and go with one you alreadytalked about the fact that we've kind of
like we are officially like settled intoa new city. We're here, We're
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here, we love it, welove it. It's home. That means
that. Listen, that word meansso much to me, Like, after
fifteen years of moving around quite abit, to be able to just like
freely call a place home just meanta lot. So I love that you
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feel the same way that I feel. Like, of course this is the
same way. I love the factthat you feel the same way that I
feel that to be in agreement,listen when to agree of those who know,
no, well, I did wantto talk about some things. So
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funny fact, sometimes Brandon and Iwill have like topics that we kind of
like, you know what, let'sdive into this, And on this episode,
we really didn't come in with atopic. We really came in to
kind of like just check in,do an update, let you guys know
what's going on over here. Butalso I guess to share a little bit
about what's on our heart, likequestions that we're talking to God about in
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this season of our lives, andjust kind of like where we are.
I think one of the first questionsthat I would love to throw out to
you, and I think that Ihave been asking the Lord, is if
you define yourself as a believer,Okay, yeah, then does that automatically
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mean that you fully trust God?Because isn't trust part of belief? I
know that's really deep in the firstcouple of minutes of the book. Well,
and I'm glad we're I was,cause I was gonna bring it up
too. I was gonna bring upthe trust aspect of our relationship with God
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because believing is, you know,faith is the evidence of basically the result
of hope. It's things of faithis the evidence of things hope or but
not seen yet. And that's whatour belief is. And who God and
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who God is to us is.I have faith to believe that God is
who he says he is, thathe sent his son Jesus to Dona cross
for me, for you, forall humanity, for all sins to be
wiped away, for the stripes onhis back, to take every curse of
sin, but also take every cursivesickness and illness away. I believe in
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that right. I have hope inthat, I have faith in that even
though I've never seen that I havefaith that that is absolutely true. Right,
But just like anything and in trustis such a cliche word that we
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talk about, and I feel likewe've talked about for a very long time
in modern dating. Oh yeah,like, oh, it's not easy for
me to trust. It's you know, my trust was broken when you did
this, and it's gonna take sometime for us to build our trust back.
Right. There's so many facets tothe word trust, and there's so
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many things that can cause us tonot put our trust into someone or something
but then put it in something else. But going back to your real question
of do believers fully trust God,I'm gonna save even from experience, no,
because there's so many times that indifferent seasons of life, we fall
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out of trust with God in certainareas because of fear, because of worry,
because of doubt, because of thingsnot coming to pass as soon as
we thought or how we thought itwas gonna happen. And it could be
for anything. It could be fora financial breakthrough, it could be for
a sickness to be here ill,that could be for a relationship to be
mended, and you just don't seeit happening, and in fact it keeps
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getting further and further away the moreyou feel like you're being more obedient and
faithful. And that does cause usto subconsciously and unaware move forward and lose
trust with God in certain aspects.And yet the simplicity of a relationship with
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the Lord is he doesn't want usto come bearing something. He wants us
to come just fully his and hewants us to come with a heart that
is under submission and also postured andready for freedom. And there's so many
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things that you know, we couldreally go in the weeds about and go
super deep about. And well,okay, so after kind of like listening
to that, this is what I'vekind of like gathered because I think that
a lot of times people say,oh, well, if you're if you
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oe of a little faith, thatit's a faith issue. At least I've
heard that in church. Church culturewe say it's a faith issue. Worldly
culture, we say we have trustissues, isn't there There was a girl
that has a song called trust Issues, and I actually really really liked the
song and then I start listening tothe lyrics and I'm kind of like,
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this isn't helping my faith at all? Okay, I need to stop singing
this song. The lyrics are talkingabout having trust issues with trusting people,
and then I'm sitting back, like, you know what, I'm a little
skeptical of that person. I don'tknow. But the reason why I bring
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this up is because I feel likewhen we talk about our walk with the
Lord, when we talk about believingGod and totality of who he is and
believing that he is sovereign, thathe is good, that he is faithful,
all the things about his character,like I believe that God is who
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he says he is. I thinkwhen I really start unpacking areas to where
I don't trust him or haven't trustedhim, it really comes in like I
believe he is who he says heis. I believe that he can do
what he says that he can do. I just don't know if that is
relevant to me. Yeah, AndI don't know where or when those little
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seeds of separation of the Scripture andthe Word of God began to because it's
a scripture of who he is andwhat he can do for all of his
children, and yet so many ofus kind of like believe God can do
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those things. I just don't knowif he can do it for me.
Right, God is those things,but I don't know if He's going to
be able to be those things forme. And it just really kind of
like had me thinking and really posingthat question. Is that in the areas
of my life where I don't trustGod, what I've learned, it's because
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one I've believed some lie that theenemy has said to me, some lie
that God has forgotten me. Goddoesn't see me, God has not forgiven
me. And because of that,I don't know if God is going to
show up and love me the waythat the Word says, the way Scripture
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tells us that he will. Sothe reason why I bring this up is
because I think lack of trust isreally a result of areas in our lives
that we believed the lie of theenemy too long. And I had set
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this on last week's episode. Italk about like how the enemy doesn't really
know any other like tactics, likehe he's not around here learning new things.
He does the same thing over andover and over and over again.
Right, he tells lies. TheBible says that he is the father of
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lives, and but our job asbelievers, as disciples, as daughters is
to tell the truth, and sonsis to tell the truth. And sometimes
we can do that really good,tell the truth to other people kind of
like in a haughty shall I say, in a prideful way, like we
l we love to pull out scriptureto other people and say, well,
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the Bible says da da da dada da da. But then when it
comes to in areas in our ownlife, we don't. We don't r
recite or meditate on the word asmuch as we recite it to other people.
We don't do that for ourselves.No, And I think that is
like an a a slow burn wherethe enemy has kind of like really hindered
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a lot of us from being ableto to to believe the fullness of the
promise. If that makes sense.Yeah, Well, to connect all of
it, because this is what's soI think even more powerful and more interesting
that I don't think you and Iare the only ones that struggle with this
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or have struggled with the trusting partof with God. Even knowing God and
seeing the miraculous and the power ofGod, you still have seasons of doubt,
and you still have seasons of unbeknownstlack of trust and trust issues with
your father, your maker. Andwhere I am always taken back to to
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this standpoint of is when Jesus wasout and he was out in the crowd,
and it's in Mark chapter nine,and he's dealing with a father and
a son who is very demon possessedand this demon is, you know,
completely controlling this this this child andGod. Jesus starts having this dialogue with
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the father and you know, heasked the father of this of this boy,
do you believe if anything is possiblefor a person, do you believe?
And the father instantly cried out andto Jesus, the Son of God,
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and says, I do believe,but help my unbelief. And that's
a daily that's a daily walk withGod. That's a daily walk with Jesus.
But here it is of what's sointeresting, because I'm always like,
why do why do Christians? Andwhy do you know? We have all
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these encounters with God? We andwe know who God is, and we
we can see the miraculous happen inour lives and in others lives. You
could see it in front of youreyes and physically see miracles take place.
And I don't believe that there's doubt. If God exists, it's the standpoint
of God. But you haven't doneit for me. Well, in miracles
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that we're looking for in our livesaren't the same thing as for others.
It's ours, it's it's what we'rewalking through. And the interesting part of
this father who had an encounter withJesus, he's desperate to get his boy
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delivered and set free, and he'ssaying, I do believe, but help
my unbelief. This is happening whileJesus is on the earth in flesh.
But then when he right before heleaves, and he's telling his disciples,
don't be worried about me going,because I'm going to leave you with the
gift which is greater than even me, is the Holy Spirit. So if
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we are left with the gift ofthe Holy Spirit, who is even greater
than who the Son of God?Is right, why do we still face
not trusting god fully? Why dowe still face not calling on the wonderful
counselor to come and just break throughjust worry and anxiety and debt and doubt.
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And it's because it's those are seedsthat have been planted by the enemy
for so long, that they've festeredso long, and then we still entertaining
those thoughts in our own mind,whether it's lies that somebody has told us
out loud, and or whether it'sour own thoughts that we just take the
bait every time the enemy starts talkingin our mind and we just don't know
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how to shut it off. Butthen there's another layer to it, because
we can be believers and we canstill have eternal life through Jesus, but
we can definitely still be oppressed,and we can still have oppression that goes
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on in our soul that is undealtwith. But it is not as hard
as we try to make it.It literally is calling on the Holy Spirit
in serving the eviction. Notice toevery demonic entity that's been trying to cast
lies and tell us this or tryto keep us in a cycle. Because
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the blood of Jesus overcame it onthe cross, and with the blood of
Jesus comes freedom. So there's twothings, I think like one so and
even listening to that the question thatyou said that would say like, well,
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you did it for him, butyou didn't do it for me.
I think as you were talking,the reality of it is I don't even
know if it's the fact that,well, you did that for that person,
you didn't do that for me.I think the big question comes,
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well, why, And I thinkthat's where we begin to go down the
rabbit hole of why we think Goddidn't do for us? God didn't protect
us. Well, God didn't doX, Y and Z. And this
is when it goes into sure culture, because I do think that the church
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culture side of it, whatever denominationyou've grown up, you've taken, well,
God didn't do it for me.It must have been because of my
mistake, or it must have beenbecause of my sin, and it must
have been because I chose to doit. But Jesus gave us his mercy
and his grace and yet again hisblood that was shed on Calvary that wipe
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those away. The moment that weposture ourselves to call on him and completely
submit to the authority of Jesus andrepent. Once that, once repentance has
happened, it's done. We arein walking in righteousness, We are walking
in obedience. The moment that yourepent, you submit unto the authority and
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God is in control again. Butwe start buying the narrative of oh my
gosh, there's all of these things, and you know, all these sins,
and now I'm wearing the from andnow I'm wearing the condemnation from and
now I'm wearing the shame from it. And God is very clear on if
you repent, you are white cleanfrom that. And that is going back
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into you, posturing your heart toyet again build the trust with God that
one he deserves, but two thatreally just opens up your heart for you
to submit it to God under theauthority and walk out in full repentance,
not scared of judgment, but knowingthat God is so merciful and he loves
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us so unconditionally that he actually desiresus to be free more than we do.
The reason why I love that somuch is because what I think that
you just said, which I reallydo believe with that I'm learning in this
last year, is that maybe wedon't have a trust issue, Maybe we
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don't even have a faith this issue. Maybe we have of repentance and forgiveness
issue. Maybe it is very hardfor us to humble ourselves and say,
I don't know, Maybe it's hardto humble ourselves and be like, man,
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I'm messed up, and instead ofjust repenting and giving it to God,
I've been trying to make it tomake sense. I've been trying to
overspiritualize it. I've tried to putit on something else or someone else and
call it all these other things.But maybe it just was, like you
know what, Maybe it wasn't thefact that I was distracted. Maybe it
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wasn't a bad decision. Maybe Ijust didn't surrender my desires to the Lord,
and Lord forgive me for holding onto things that are unpleasing to you.
When did we overcomplicate it to makeget so many other things right?
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So I have never, i think, repented so much that I have in
the last six months, probably inthe entire time that I have called myself
a Christian, which has been forthe last gucha almost seventeen years. So
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I say that because, and withthat being said, I'll be honest.
I don't know if I've ever feltmore free like I don't know if I've
ever felt more free from judgment.There's something to that. There's something with
accepting forgiveness and repentance and then beingfree from judgment in the fear of man.
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There's something so powerful about that towhere I'm just kind of like we're
on to say thing here. Soyeah, so that's kind of like where
I've been kind of like the lastsix months. The other thing, which
I think is so funny to kindof like lighten the mood a little bit
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for people that are listening there,like man, y'all went y'all went straight
in in the first kind of likefifteen minutes. So if you guys have
been following along on my Instagram,hopefully you are. If you're not,
it's okay. You can follow meat I am k Watts. But one
of the things that I've been sharingin my insta story and on threads is
that I started reading the Bible fromthe beginning, from starting to cover.
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And now I'm gonna be real withyou, i have not been as consistent
as I want to be. I'mstill an Old Testament, Okay, But
I'm laughing because like as I'm readingthings like I'm like I'm in the bed
at night with Brandon and I'm kindof like i am like in all I'm
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in utter kind of like that certainthings I just didn't know right. So
my next question is, do youhave a favorite book of Old Testament,
and if so, why, Yeah, I think, And do you have
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a favorite person of Old Testament?Yeah, I love Samuel, okay,
the prophet, and I love thatwhole his whole life span. I love
him coming encounter with King David andannoying King David. I love, you
know, the things that he encountered. I also love Elijah and Elisha in
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that timeline. I love the storyof Elijah where he you know he is,
he obviously has done a lot,but the main one is when he
confronts Jezebel and tears down the prophetsof bel and just there's so much that
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in that moment that still in thismodern day we still encounter and see and
learn from. So I do lovethe Old Testament. H I love Psalms,
I love you love them. Ilove Proverbs. You know, there's
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just so many books. I can'tjust now nail it down to one.
I think one of the stories thatI hadn't really like sat and read and
really meditated on that I actually reallyreally enjoyed and really really just found delight
in is like really learning about Hannah. Oh yeah, yeah, and I
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thought about how she was I don'teven know if you know, I wanna
call it the journey of infertility,but I know that she went through a
season to where the Bible says thather wound was closed, that God actually
closed her room for a season ina time, which I think is so
interesting that that's even written in scripturebecause it's it's showing God being in control.
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But the thing that really stood outto me is that she was actually
taunted by the other woman that wasout here just having kids back to back.
Yeah, and yet and still Hannahworshiped, she prayed, and she
told God that she was going togive this son that she that she was
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believing she was gonna be blessed with, that she was gonna give this son
back to the Lord. And Goddid ended up blessing her with the son,
and I believe it with Samuel,who is my new favorite character.
I love me some Samuel. Butthe reason why I bring that up is
because part of this mature twenty twentyfour for me is kind of like being
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humble enough to admit what I don'tknow. Yeah, because I think sometimes
it is so quick and easy,especially as a as a believer. I
think sometimes we think that our roleand our job is to correct unbelievers,
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or to constantly rebuke our brethren,our brothers and sisters in Christ, like
that is our job to point outthe anointed, to point out this like
we really are like so which thereis a time and a season for all
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things right. But what I've beenlearning is is that before I can open
up my mouth to offer a levelof rebuke and correction, I need to
really know the word for myself.There is a level of responsibility that I
think that we miss. And evenafter knowing the word, it is now
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that you know it, you're notknowing it to then go out and then
use it as a weapon to provea point. And I think I'm learning
that the more that I am consuming, the softer my heart is. But
then also I see so much grace. But then I also see that God
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stands on his word. The thingsthat seem so hard are things that he
said he was going to do,and he does what he says. If
you do what he said, don'tdo the same way. He honors his
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word when you do what he tellsyou to do. It is that simple.
It's that simple. It is thatsimple. Okay, So what have
you learned in this season. Sinceyou've been here. One you've been thriving
in Franklin like you've been thriving inTennessee. You look like you've been here
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for years one way. But Ialways when we were here, I said
that Tennessee feels like it could becousins to Texas. Now that you've been
here for six months, what doyou think? Yeah, I really say
the same thing. Yeah, forsure. I Mean what I've learned in
you know, six months, butalso in the last several years is to
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really trust God fully, not justfor the big things, but for the
small things, which you would think, oh, that's actually easier is to
do it for the small things andnot so much the big things. But
it's really the small things that I'vereally it's been a process to just fully
you've embraced the Sabbath, which,praise the Lord. I've embraced the Sabbath.
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I've embraced, embraced rest. Yeah, how do you do you?
Honestly, not just to say like, oh, because there are times that
we can do things that the Bibletells us to do and maybe we feel
as though that they don't impact oureffectus, but we are going to obey
because the Bible tells us to dothem. But I'm very curious. Do
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you feel like taking a sabbath andresting has impacted you mentally, physically,
spiritually at all or do you feellike you do? Yeah? For sure,
I feel like. I mean,I'm more productive when I just sit
and disconnect, which is wow.Yeah. And I'm also, you know,
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learning again to meet God in theSecret Place. And while I've known
that and have known the presence ofGod as a worshiper and worship leader,
knowing the importance of the secret Placeand getting alone with God to be filled,
to go out and pour out,I've known you know that, but
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this has been different because I'm notpouring out how I was. And but
God is still worthy to be worshipedon how He's created me to worship.
And you know, so I'm Iam have learned to meet with God when
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I feel the prompting or I feelhis just this this still small voice to
be like, hey, spend sometime with me and to lean into that.
Can I asks you something when yousay the secret place, are you
able to put that into words ofdefinition of what that is? Or is
it just something that you feel likeI I hate to say if you know
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you know, cause I feel like, well, it's not if you know
you know. I mean, there'sthere's a couple references to the secret place
and the secret places. You know. God scripture says he hides us under
the shadow of his wing, andthat's a secret place we also, as
we can see in the Throne Roomof worship, that's the secret place where
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the saints and el elders bow beforehim and seeing Holy, Holy, Holy.
It's just joining in in that closettime of I'm joining in with the
Throne Room of Worship in this momentthat it is not for It's not for
me. It's actually for our King, and I'm just partnering with what's been
going on for all eternity already.And even though when I leave that moment
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i am filled. It does helpme, you know, but it's not
for me. It's for him,and that is the secret place. That
is the you know, I'm gonnadisconnect and listen to a worship song and
read the Word, or just lieon the floor and have my face in
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the carpet and just well, there'sthat pray and talk to him. There's
that I want to say, like, if you guys have I keep saying
if you're following me on Instagram anothershameless plug, I am, I am
following you, you better be followingme. But I really want to I
really want to honor you because peoplehave been watching and seeing the podcast,
(33:05):
and you know, I said inthe intro that you were the first person
to invest. And but people don'tknow is that when I was getting started
before I think I released the firstepisode, like you set up the platform,
you paid to make sure that theplatform was going to do what it
needed to do, Like you reallyreally invested in that, and that just
(33:28):
didn't start with the podcast. Peopletalk about congratulations on say Grace and congratulations
on you know where it's going andwhat it's doing, But I don't know
that people know that you were likethe emotional, spiritual support and truthfully a
financial investor in the very first one. And I think there's something to be
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said. And I know people cansay, like, oh, he's your
husband, he should support, right, Like that's you have a spouse,
you should support, right, ButI don't think that you just support because
I'm your spouse. There is somethingthat I feel as though that you really
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really are pouring into a seed thatI am sowing and that I am stewarding.
And I just want to say thankyou for that, because I've learned
that even though I was single fora long time and I was sewing and
sewing and sewing, there is somethingwhen you are in covenant with someone else
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and doing life with you has It'smade it a lot easier in general just
having a partner. But I alsodon't take for granted that when there is
a choice to be made to sewand to steward a seed in the season,
that it also puts a responsive abilityon you as a husband to cover
and to show up and support.And I just want to say that you've
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just done a phenomenal job. You'vedone a phenomenal job. You have showed
up consistently. You blew up twohundred balloons for say Grace, for people
that don't know that thought that theballoon decor was awesome. Your your lips
were pretty were pretty raw. Oh, but the content was gorgeous. Thank
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you so much. But I definitelyjust if that's something that I just want
to say, is that you're coveringhas not gone unnoticed. I know the
Lord has seen you just step inand just really really love me well.
And I can sit here and havea podcast and do these things because you're
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willing to show up and important andinvest and I'm grateful. So I just
wanna say thank you everybody that's listening. Yeah, well, thank you,
and I'm honored and to receive allof that and to be your husband and
do those things and support and cover. But I'm also excited to continue to
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learn how to love you well andcontinue to learn how to support you well
in so many other areas and somany other things. And you know,
so We're just gonna keep letting Godleading guide us. Amen. Let all
truth, Yes, Lord, alltruth? Yes. Is there anything that
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you want to end the podcast on? Again, Guys, there wasn't something
too specific that we have, butwe we like to keep tradition, and
Brandon will always be a guest,at least until he says no, I
cannot, but I will always bea guest. I'll always be a guest
on the podcast. But is thereanything that you want to end the podcast
on? Yeah? Just trust inGod and stay free. Trust in God,
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stay free, and where there's doubtor where there's worri or akst that
doesn't come from the Lord, andthat's a sign to get in the secret
place and to repent and to bowyour heart to King Jesus and submit to
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him and allow him to be kingover your life. And on that note,
guys, I just want to saythank you so much for tuning it
into this episode of the KWATS podcast. Definitely make sure that you hit the
like and subscribe button, head overto Instagram and follow at I Am Brandon
Watson. He has some things goingon and if you are in the Nashville,
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Franklin, or Tennessee area, definitelymake sure that you head over to
his website to see the next placethat he may be plan a show in
a place in a city near you. But guys, I love you,
Love you so much. Until nexttime, Be blessed.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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