February 13, 2025 • 45 mins
What Is Our Testimony? with Brandon Watson In the latest episode of "The Kay Wats Podcast," Kay interviews her husband and musician Brandon Watson. Kay and Brandon discuss life since moving to Tennessee and beginning their journey to parenthood. They share intimate moments of preparing for children and how they have rediscovered trust in the Lord and the love of Jesus as children first
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hey, guys, welcome to an all new episode of the
Kawats Podcast. I'm your host, Kashawn Watson, but you know
me as Kawats and I'm super excited that you are
joining me this week. You know, this is the place
where we chat about the questions that we ask God.
And I am joined by a special guest today.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's right. If you guys listened.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
To last week episode, then you know that I am
bringing all my love bug.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
My husband, mister Brandon Watson, is in the building.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I am in the building. I am here, I am present.
Thank you for having me on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It is always a pleasure in an honor.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So we are talking all things love and marriage, love
and marriage.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
And loving marriage and baby.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We're gonna be parents.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh this is happening.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So yeah, I mean, well, first and foremost, we haven't
done an episode together in almost a year.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh it's been that long, I think. So it's been
way too long.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well, definitely last season.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So let's say it's at least been six months, but
it feels like a year, okay, because so much has transpired.
So one, let's catch the people up. We just celebrated
three years. Three years of marriage.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
It has been flying by. There's so much that has
happened in three years.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So literally, I was sitting back the other day and
just watching like video clips from like our honeymoon, and
there was a couple of things that I noticed.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
One, I was a lot skinnier.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Two you look exactly the same I do.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Tell me your secrets, I felt, Well, it's vitamins, it's
a regular workout plan. It's uh, okay, now I'm gonna
tell you more. It's it's those those Uh. I've been
on the smoothie kick. That's true for almost a year.
That's solid, if not every day, at least every other day,
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making like fruit smoothies. I've also integrated greens into my life.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh that was an answer prayer. That's not an everyday occurrence.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
But you know, I'm still on the path of presence,
which we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I'm so excited. I'm still so much.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, it's the sanctification process. I'm still being sanctified in
my greens right now.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But but I also think that that is something that
we can talk about because I think that that is
something that I've even recognized even being pregnant, is that
this pregnancy, I feel like it's sanctifying me in certain
ways that I just hadn't been sanctified before.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So babies will do that for you, apparently, It's what
I've been told. This is what you've been told. Dad.
Friends out there, I love.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The fact that you are experiencing a level of sanctification
through health and diet.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Okay, yes, okay, So when I was thinking about what
I wanted to talk about and catching people up. Of course,
if you've been following along on our journey, then you
know that we've been podcasting that's like for years. It's
actually how we met. Fun fact, fun story. We're not
going to recapital on this episode, but if you haven't
heard it, you should definitely go back and listen to
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probably like what maybe like twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Episodes, yeah, something like that, not even twenty twenty. I
think we've recapped how we met.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, definitely twenty twenty two, because we got married in
twenty twenty two. That's right, so we've recapped that moral
of the story. Go back and.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Stream if you want to figure out no kind of
like our origin story about how we connected and how
we met, it was actually through a conversation. It was
actually through a podcast interview. So this is another reason
why I think it's so close to our hearts and
one of the reasons why I bring brainon on every
single season because I don't know if I would be
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doing this.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
How do we not have met?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Because you're my first guest, which is wild to.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Think about it. I feel honored.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, I feel honored because Babe, I love you, love
thank you. It was during the season where I was
insecure about interviewing people, and you kind of like burst
that bubble really quickly, so it helped me to be able.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
This is the Holy Spirit in me, it was.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But I love when he just uses you and he
uses you, man, and the impact that it has on me.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It helps me to grow. It sharpens me.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
That's what we're called to do.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It was iron sharpens iron, and that's what happened very
early in our relationship and our introduction, and it has
continued on in the last five years.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So I'm just grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
In this episode, I really wanted to of course, we're
going to talk about the pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
We're going to talk about all things.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We're going to talk about all things baby, but I
was reminded of something that you said.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Maybe three years ago.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Now we're getting to it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I mean, I feel like we've done the fluff introduction,
so now let's just go, let's dive in. Because there's
been a couple of things that I have just really
been paying attention to during this season of like preparing
for motherhood and also like certain things I'm sharing, certain
things I'm not sharing, how often I'm posting my bump
on social media, how often I'm sharing certain certain updates.
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And I was trying to I was really asking the
Lord where I was, you know, a little reserved, if
you will, in posting all the time, like pictures or
videos of me rubbing my bump and things like that.
And I was really trying to check to make sure
that it wasn't like from an out of fear place, right,
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because I do think those types of things are real, Like, hey,
I don't want to, you know, celebrate too soon.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I don't want to do this.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So I was really checking in with the Holy Spirit
just to see, like, is that part of it? And
I'm not going to sit up here and line and
say that there weren't times and seasons to where, especially
in the beginning, that that was part of it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But the Lord.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Reminded me of something that he had said to you
when we were dating. And I want to say this, man,
I've been back in like twenty twenty or twenty twenty one,
and I want to bring it up because I think
that that really should go into kind of like where
we go with the conversation. But you had told me
one time it came over and said, the Lord told
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me not to make a child in idol, and I
was one throne because at that point we weren't trying
for nobody's baby, we were not married, we were not engaged.
So my first initial thought at that time was is
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the Lord preparing you for us not to be able
to have kids? Because that was the only way that
I could really wrap my mind around why he would
share something like that at that time, Like, the first
thought that came into my mind was very fearful. But
the reason why I'm bringing that up is because during
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this season of pregnancy, like one of the things that
I think that and I don't want to say we've
done well, but It has kind of been an I'm
very curious to use your thoughts on this has kind
of been the thing that we've just kind of like
really held on too. Is our marriage being first priority
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and not being so overcome like we are we are joyous,
oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Where we are not just joyous, we are estatic and
so excited.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So we're overcome with joy, but not at the expense and.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Cost of us prioritizing and put in our marriage first.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Right, And I was sitting back and I was thinking, like, oh,
my goodness, this is that word that God gave you.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Wasn't just because.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Of our process or our path to getting pregnant. That
word was going to be relevant while being pregnant, sure,
and that word would be relevant after having children. Yes,
So I'm just curious to know that did you think
that years ago when he at first set that to you,
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did you think that was like a timeless word or
did you feel like it was just okay, like we
may have some issues getting pregnant, or it may take
a little bit longer than what we think, or any
of those things.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Well, unpacking that and kind of going back to that
conversation because I actually remember the conversation. We were outside
walk taking a walk when it happened, and we were walking,
Oh we were, Yes, we were.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And it was an evening, and.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I forget what the conversation was, but I remember feeling
like the Holy Spirit was just just so kindly and
whispered like, don't make having a baby an idol. And
I know that seems very heavy and very.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Sensitive, because this is a sensitive topic.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And when I said it, I think it was just
one of those things where, hey, keep we should always
keep our focus in our eyes on Jesus, we should
always turn a look upon Him in every aspect of
our lives, but specifically for that aspect. I didn't feel
as though, oh, there was gonna be challenges or you know, uh,
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a problem we were gonna have to walk through. Because
children are are promises. They their their legacy, their their gifts,
their arrows in your quiver. The Bible says, you know,
I do felt I had felt like it was it
was like almost the Abraham story of him and Sarah
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and conceiving, but not not to the extent of like
they they were trying and trying and trying, and he
became weary on Like God, you said I was gonna
have an air but why is this not happening? I
think when I said, don't let having a baby become
an idol, it's easy to take your focus off of
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Jesus and put it on.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Something or someone else.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
And sometimes that is with your kids, like they become
your life, and sometimes they become your identity, and you
start projecting upon your kids so much because they become
the primary focus, they become not sometimes unbeknownst, because it's
just life is lifing. And so yeah, to answer your question,
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I think that that when I said it, I felt
the weight of that and I knew it was Holy Spirit,
and I didn't think it was for a season. I
felt like it was to carry through.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah I did not, So that's fine.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I mean I feel like we have those You and
I have those kind of moments all the time. We
can literally be washing dishes and a word just drops
and I'm like, I feel like that was.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
For sure, and then that's when it goes into like, okay,
this is you know, this is a timeless word of
the Lord, Like this is a timeless reminder of keep
your eyes and your focus on Jesus. So you know,
for those we didn't really share this publicly on the podcast.
I don't think that I ever did like a conversation
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about it, but I want to say it, like a
year and a half ago, I did have to go
and do surgery and have some fibroid removal, and I
was extremely nervous and just if I'm just gonna call
it what it is, I was flat out scared about
just the process of what that was going to mean
for me. So I remember sitting in the doctor's office
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as he is running through all of these things to
discuss about, like what could potentially happen during the surgery
and all of that, and I just felt like the
Holy Spirit whisper, I told you not to make having
a child an idol, and this is why I said it.
And as soon as when that came upon me, funny enough,
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while it felt like a rebuke, and I say this,
I gonna be very mindful of this. It felt like
a rebuke because the Holy Spirit knew the fear, worry,
and anxiety that was welling up. And even though I
wasn't verbally saying it, Holy Spirit knew and rebuked the
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fear and anxiety that it was coming. And then encouraged me.
And somebody say, you felt like that was an encouraging word. Yes,
because the Bible says that the Lord rebukes who he loves,
So in that moment when he is rebuking me of this,
I immediately felt his love and grace and protection because
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I knew that he was rebuking me of this, because
that worry, fear, and anxiety was a lie and and
trick of the enemy. So I I of course did
not know how the surgery was gonna go. I didn't
know what the results were going to be. But in
that moment while during the rebuke, and this is just
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the goodness of God and just his sovereignty and all
of it, I also just felt his kindness. I knew
that he saw me in that moment, he knew what
my thoughts were, and he had to let me know
this is not the time for you to even give
into those thoughts. And this is why three years ago
I had told your husband, do not make this an idol,
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so that you guys went and even carry that which
immediately this is what happens when the Lord rebukes and
he gives your word. It also just completely causes you
to repent. That's one thing, you know, didn't know I
was going into like a teaching moment here.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Hey, but it's good.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But I'm serious when sometimes people are so nervous or afraid,
and I've talked about this a lot recently, people are
so afraid or uncomfortable about a rebuke. But this is
the thing, when a rebuke truly comes from the Lord,
even if like literally in this conversation, in this situation,
the Holy Spirit did it directly to me. He did
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not use my husband or anyone else to deliver it.
But there has been times to where the Lord has
used people to deliver the rebuke. And this is the thing.
When it's truly of the Lord, it will prompt you
to repent. You will not feel shame, you will not
feel condemnation, but you will be reminded, Like Jesus, I'm
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so sorry that I forgot for a moment who you were,
who you are to me, and what your word says. Right,
that's when you know the rebuke is of the Lord.
So I say all that to say, as we you know,
went through that process of clearly the surgery went well.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
It was it was miraculous success.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
It was a success, right, I didn't healing journey, and.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Literally you fast forward to what was that.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
A year and a half later, almost a year and
a half, yeah, almost a year and.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
A half, maybe like a year.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
After fully healing, we find out that we're pregnant and
then starts this beautiful journey of becoming parents.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
So yeah, I thought about that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And then I think as we start talking about our
lives and future, and it was something that you said
the other night, which I was kind of like, that's
so good.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
What I say? What I say?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I think we were sitting down and we were just
finished having dinner, and you were like, I love this,
and this is something that I'll I'll always desire because
the kid's gonna grow up, they gonna leave us.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Oh yeah, yeah exactly. I mean, as they should leave
and cleave to your life children, you know, yeah, I
mean I it's it's the beauty. It's the beautiful simplicity
of one love that this is this, this was the
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design of the father from the beginning, and that when
you go through life and you go through getting married,
then having kids, you know, planting in a in a city,
developing community, building with your spouse, your partner, and then
providing for your children, teaching your children, instilling them the
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fear of the Lord and also the love of Jesus,
and showing them as a father. You know, you really
start comprehending, which I mean, I have so many friends
that have been dads.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And parents, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I mean, I fully have like grasped that concept of
like this is how ges sees us as a dad,
Like this is how this is the father sees me
and sees you, Like we are not orphans. We are
sons and daughters of Jesus. We've been called to a
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higher place by the blood that was shed on cavalry.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
That was the atonement, you know, for.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Sin, but also future sin and even our selfish motives
and thoughts, Like I know that's going so deep into
like y'all are just about to be parents, but that
that's just sitting down and having dinner. Like I do
have moments where I'm like, man, everything's about to change
for us. But at the same time, there'll be another
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drastic change when our kids grow up and move away,
you know, and it's back to Wow, we're back to
the how we started, which is great and I actually,
I mean I can't wait for it. All, I can't
wait for all the transitions.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I think the biggest part in those transitions where I've.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Seen, yeah, what's gonna be my next question?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
While I'm so grateful that I'm a PK pastor's kid
and have grown up in the church, and with that,
you see a lot of lives, you see a lot
of dynamics and a lot of family dynamics. And I
think where I have seen I don't want to say mistakes,
but I've definitely seen approaches on it right that people
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parents grasp moments and they keep the moment, and they
stay living in that moment twenty years from that moment.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And while it's.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Great to keep memories and go back and think about
it and relive it and laugh about it or cry
about it. God is This is who God is. He
moves from glory to glory, he does a new thing.
He's He's always on the move. And our life is
the same thing. You know, it should be where we
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are constantly moving forward. We're not staying captured in a
time or captured in that moment. Because it's not good
for nobody. It's not good for you spiritually, it's not
good for your partner, and your spouse and it's not
good for your kids.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I I think.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I've had a lot of that thinking since we've found
out that you know, we're going to become parents. Like,
it makes you think about all the things of like
how you were raised, how you want to raise your kids. Yeah,
for sure, the mistakes you don't want to make, the
mistakes that you are going to make sure, you know.
It's just so different but so beautiful at the same time. Yeah,
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And it really does taking it really does make you
have to take the approach of trusting God only because
you cannot control anybody. And actually God has not designed
parents to control their kids. God has given you kids
to steward them well and lead them well, and that
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is the only thing that you can do and should
do and point them to Jesus all along the way.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, because the truth of the matter is is that
while there are kids, they're His kids first.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
First.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yes, Like that is something too that the Lord has
reminded me, is that, Yeah, I know your children because
they're my children. I knew them before I even blessed
your wound, before I even.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Put them in your womb, I know. So it's just beautiful. Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
But while you were talking, there were a couple of
things that stood out to me, And one of the
things is that the time capsule piece is really really
good because I think that that you know, I'm not
a pique, but I can see where parents and children
that are now adults can create moments and they stay
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in those moments because they're so good, and it's like,
do you remember when God did this good thing? And
everybody's in agreement, Yes, I remember when God did that
good thing. And this is the part that I think
people kind of glaze over or they don't want to receive.
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God did a good thing, and now God is doing
a new thing, and I have to trust that in
God's new thing, it's good for those that love Him
and are called according to His purpose. And that also
works on the flip side, I know there's some people
listening to their like, my family hasn't time capsuled any moments.
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We don't have the good memories, we don't have the laves,
don't have the jokes. Maybe it is somber, maybe it
you know, maybe there are levels of trauma and dysfunction
that has happened. But even in those bad moments, in
those bad things, you can still trust that in God's
new thing.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It can be good.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It will be good for those that are called according
to His purpose that love him.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, that's what his word says.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And I think sometimes we love moments so much, or
we stay in moment so much because we don't fully
trust in the Lord with all our hearts as much
as we say as believers. Sure, And I can be
convicted of that so many times, in so many moments
to where when you just really look at if you
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were just to do soccing inventory of your day to day,
if you're week to week, and you see what wins.
Is it that you were fearful and anxious all week?
Or were you trusted in walking in the little and
receiving the peace that surpasses all understanding. And that is
the challenge sometimes for people. It is like, receive the
peace that God himself has given you through his son
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Jesus that surpasses all understanding of what you know to be,
and trust that the Lord is good and that he
cares and that he loves you. So that's really really good.
I love all of that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yea, this is so good.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
So the other thing that I really want to talk
about was during this time and season one of the
words that you have learned, Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It's stillness.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
And I don't know, well, I know for a fact
that I shouldn't even say I don't know. I know
for a fact that we have never ever done an episode,
podcast or any type of content and relating to you
being still and relating to your understanding of stillness.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
And this is one of the most beautiful parts that
I think that I've seen in your you know, fatherhood
journey as you're preparing to become a dad, is you
have really been embracing just having quiet time, like true
quiet time with the Lord. So I'm just very curious
if you could kind of share a little bit about
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that and when you've gotten of that and all that stuff, well.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Is part of my stillness.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I also want to say learning humility another layer of humility, right, because.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Obedience is what I mean here. We will read it
in the Bible.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
God desires obedience, not sacrifice, right, and so it takes
humility to obey, But it also takes humility to just
sit and stay.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Oh okay, now let me unpack all of that.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
So, if you know me at all, I've always been
on the go from one group of friends to another
group of friends, or one church event to another church
event to lead worship, or in the music industry side
one project to another project, touring, traveling, YadA, YadA, YadA.
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So in this season with and you know, the last year,
there has been a lot of of course unravelings as
you as we've been talking about, but professionally, it's been
the most fruitful year that I've seen in my life
because I do believe God told me to do what
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I needed to do and there was so much fruit
and harvest from that. And I'll just be honest on
the pod today, like God told me back in twenty
twenty to focus on my music. And at the time,
I was traveling, you know, a ton, and I was
traveling off of no music. I was traveling off of
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other people's music, and I had no catalog for myself.
And it was, you know, one of those things where
I was on staff out of church and we relocated
to Florida, and it was a portion of pastor in Florida,
and we felt like the Lord told us to move
to Franklin, Tennessee, and we followed that, and you know,
the Lord really just opened up a window of heaven
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over us and landed a management deal. And I finished
last year with close to ninety songs completely done and
wrapped up. Okay, yeah, I know insane, But I say
all that because anybody that knows me knows I'm a
workhorse and my work ethic is just insane. And I
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don't know how to stop and turn off on that side.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
So I heard the Lord say.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Recently to stay still and watch me, and I was like, Okay,
what does that mean, Like you want me to stop working?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Or do you want me to sit down? What do you?
What do you? What do you? What do you want? Yeah?
So I sat down. But also it is it coincided with.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Shout out to our church too, because we we love
our church and our pastors at the Belonging here in Nashville.
We just truly love the heart and the spirit of
the ministry and their leadership and value the leadership. But
we started this the series that's a ten week course
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called The Path of Presence, and it's a discipleship book,
but it's it's literally a discipleship book with and it
says dwelling with Jesus. And we've been reading it and
going through it, and we'll actually.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Put the link.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Everybody should order it.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Definitely order this book. Probably encouraged so good. I mean,
it's so it's the best of milk and also meat,
if you know, if you know the Bible terms, you know,
coming off of milk to be it's totally that. I mean,
it just really breaks down our relationship with Jesus. And
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I mean I told you this, you know, a couple
of days ago. I was like, I've always known Jesus
my whole life. I was, I was saved at like
five years old, and you said God, I said God, Yes,
I did say God. I've known God my whole life,
and you know, just God saved a five and had
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a relationship with God. But I was like, within the
last several weeks here, recently, I've rediscovered who Jesus is
in my life as an adult, and I was like,
it's the most beautiful thing to.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Just really see his meekness.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And his humility and how he describes himself, Like he
could have described himself in so many different ways, powerful, authoritative,
all these things and they were all be true. But
to see that he himself said he was meek and
he was loving. That's that's that's the key is the
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humility in all we do and so all of that,
I have learned to sit still here and because of
sitting still, I have rediscovered who Jesus is. And it's
just been I keep saying this word, but it's been
so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah m hm, Well, there was a lot that you said.
I think that I want to yes, all good. I
wanted to remind back because as you were going through
all the transitions from the moving, to the positions, to
all the things to originally getting the word of focus
on the music. This is the interesting part and I
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think that this possibly will help a lot of people
because sometimes we can sometimes we can hear a word
and we can take on our own assumption on what
we think that it means.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And the reason why I think this one is so
important and so key is because this specific word when
the Lord told you to focus on the music. Now
that you have done and completed ninety songs, you understand
the amount of focus intention in quiet time was necessary
an interrupt it to get those songs done, and that
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was not the reality of what your schedule was prior.
So this is why I love the Lord he's so funny.
He gives an instruction and the instruction is focused on
the music, and then we think that that doesn't mean
that we would have to change our habits, our routines,
sometimes the proximity of relationships. So we can then try
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to overbook and become busier because the Lord gave us
an assignment.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Oh, I gotta do something.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
But what I have learned in watching you in this
season is that the Lord gave you this instruction because
what he was really asking to do and what he
really wanted you to see was that ninety songs was
not possible with the current schedule that you had, with
the boundaries that were set up, and even with the
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posture just to be able to sit in the house
and get them done right, yeah, it just it wasn't
possible during that time. It would have required drastic change.
And I think this is really important for people because
a lot of times you really focus on the promises
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that God says, the prophetic words that we get the
exciting ooh, what God's going to do in this season?
And this is the interesting part to that is that
when there's an assignment given from the Lord, it will
always require a change of us to complete the assignment
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right when it is a god given thing, a god
given instruction. To assume that nothing about you, your situation,
your day to day, your relationships, your perspective, your focus
would have to change is just not realistic.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
And I think sometimes we have and I can attest
to this. We can want the word to come to
pass so bad, but we are unwilling to look at
our current setup and say, what do I have, what
do I have to do in order to complete the
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assignment in order to obey this instruction. And sometimes we
don't want to hear those relationships that are very close,
you're going to have to move them out the way
so I can be there. We don't want to hear
that there may have to be a change in the
environment because the current environment that you're in is not
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conducive to the creative process that you will need or
I will need to bring in new relationships, new resources,
all of these things. So I love this because in
the process of you obeying the Lord, which you are
a thousand percent right, obedience automatically requires humility because it
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requires you to obey what the Father tells you and
in order to do that.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
You have to humble.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yourself to receive the word and then completely turn from.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Your way and do it God's way.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
And I love that God is just so good and
he's just so kind and so faithful that every time
you took a step and did something that really looks
like what are you doing? Like literally, I think people
were like what are you doing? There was a lot
of people saying that that's not the move, that's not
the way, don't do that, don't do this. But it
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was your just blatant obedience to where when you got here,
the only thing left for you to do at that
time was to sit, trust God and do what he
told you to do.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
About four and a half five years ago.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, and I'm still there. I'm still in that posture.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Of sitting and trusting and being obedient but still being
productive and which you know, I think if you go
back to the beginning, like with the Garden of Eden,
which again this is part of the book that but
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it's true, and I'm going to actually equate it to
labor and working, because God's design for work and and
for man is you know, he he created heavens and
the earth, and he created creation and he created you know,
animals and all these things, and then he created Adam,
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gave him life, but then gave him purpose. And God
loves work, and but he loves healthy work because he
loves productivity.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Because God loves gifts.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
He loves giving gifts to people, and with those gifts
comes creating. But it's where we get out of whack
in other areas, or out of alignment in other areas,
where working habits can become unhealthy because.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
You're unhealthy spiritually, or you're.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Unhealthy even practically and physically because of your overworking yourself.
But God never designed it to be that way. He
actually told us to take a sabbath and rest. So
when we don't rest, when we don't take sabbath, when
we don't take a season of rest, that's where life
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becomes heavy weighty life, life's and we become unhealthy because
we're not taking the practical steps of the simplicity of Well,
if God said this, then maybe we should put that
into practice.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
And I've learned that and I'm learning that, and so
Sabbath has been so big for me in this season
last year, I think I'm just I'm so grateful to
be free from religion and really understand the relationship with Jesus.
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And because if you go back to the religious laws
of the Phariseutical way, and the Pharisees, like they put
those laws into practice knowingly that it was going to
be so unattainable to be perfect. And in fact, when
Jesus came, they called him demonic, and they called him wicked, and.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
They were so blinded that he was the Messiah.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
And he was who he said he was, and he
was Jesus three and one, God, the Father, and Holy
Spirit all in one. They could not comprehend and understand
it because religion had blinded them.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
For so long.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
And I feel like the church has been big. C
Church has been in religion for such a long time,
and we're so unaware in the simplicity of taking a sabbath,
you know, or tithing or just the practical spiritual habits
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putting those into place. It's not ritualistic, it's practical because
God said it, because He knows better for us to
keep us healthy and cover us.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, Like, I don't think that I really recognize how
big the daily obediences are. Like people always talk about
the spiritual warfare and what you go through. But I'm
gonna tell you something like the battles that we face,
like those big storms when they come, like, I don't
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know why we would ever think that we are prepared
for them if we have just completely been laxed on
all the other daily times that we could obey what
the Lord has said. And then when the big one hits,
we're like, okay, what we gotta do. We gotta do
a fast We start putting it in all this well.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
And this is so funny, right because we always like
to talk about these storms. But the ultimate storm that
we have seen, where Jesus was on the ship or
the boat, whatever you want to call it, and.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
He was asleep with the disciples, this storm hits.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
The disciples did not prepare, They did not have time
too fast good, they did not Oh man, the enemies
come and wait, they had Jesus, son of God, son
of Man, sleeping on deck.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
So why would you even think.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
About saying, oh my goodness, we're gonna die, Oh my goodness,
we're gonna sink, We're gonna we're gonna drown. In fact,
Jesus was so chill and calm. He gets up, he
walks off the boat onto the water, while if the
storm is happening, for a teaching moment to be like,
come on out, come to me, and that's it in
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our lives. That is the example, because that's good. We
you know, it's easier said than done because we are humans.
But we have to again go back to watch Jesus,
go back to the word of Jesus saying peace, be
still in the stillness. He's present in the stillness. There's
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hope in the stillness. There's joy in the stillness of
who God is. God speaks and he moves, and he
loves on us when we just yield, humble ourselves, repent
and look upon him.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
So good.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
So the last question to wrap up is, and maybe
answered this, I don't know, but what has been a
recent question then that you have asked God?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
And what has that response been?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
You know, with so many transitions of so many changes,
just in the last couple of months, is there a
question that you are a petition to the Lord? And
if so, like, how have you been processing his response?
If he has responded, and if he hasn't, how are
you processing his silence?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Well, no, he's not being silent in my life, right
now at the questions I've been asking him, his response
was stay still and watch me. Okay, So that was
that was, you know recently, Like that's why I'm going
through this book and sitting down and just consulting with
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the Holy Spirit and inviting the Holy Spirit to dwell
and to create with me, and to sit with me
and love on me, you know, and all of the
practical questions like will work itself out as we are
obedient and and also practically productive too, like you don't,
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you don't just become you know, so like, oh, I'm
just gonna soak all day and just it's gonna work out,
Like no, you got to put your feet to the
to the ground and your hands to the plow, and
you can soak as you're working, you know, and and
seek God.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
So that that's where I'm at with with.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
The questions I'm asking the Lord and his responses stay
still and watch me.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
I love it. Well, guys, that kind of wraps this episode.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
We we.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
As always want to encourage you.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I think we always want to just be honest and
testify about where we are and just how we are
walking with the Lord, and we just appreciate you guys
just tuning into this week's episode, Definitely make sure that
you go over and follow at I am Brandon Watson.
He has new music that has dropped, new music that
is actually fa There's one dropping tomorrow. There's always one dropping,
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he says, this is what happens when you write ninety
songs in the year. But definitely make sure that you
go over to Spotify, that you go and can they
pre save what's the situation.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Pre saved stream? Just stay close to it, I guess not.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
I guess. Definitely stay close.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
To the journey and the movement on the podcast here,
but also the music side. There's so much dropping and releasing.
So yeah, let's let's have a good time this year
twenty twenty five. We're in this thing twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Five, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
So guys, definitely make sure that at the end of
this episode that you go like, share, and subscribe, Definitely comment.
I'm gonna put the link down below so that you
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you are actually looking for discipleship, I am telling you
that this book is for you.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
And maybe that sounds weird.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Maybe you've never heard someone say, if you you are
looking for discipleship, read this book. We usually people say,
if you're looking for discipleship, look for this person. But
guess what the person is Jesus, And that's who we're
pointing you towards. So thank you so much for tuning
into this week's episode of The Kids Podcast.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Until next week, be blessed,
Hey, guys, welcome to an all new episode of the
Kawats Podcast. I'm your host, Kashawn Watson, but you know
me as Kawats and I'm super excited that you are
joining me this week. You know, this is the place
where we chat about the questions that we ask God.
And I am joined by a special guest today.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's right. If you guys listened.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
To last week episode, then you know that I am
bringing all my love bug.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
My husband, mister Brandon Watson, is in the building.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I am in the building. I am here, I am present.
Thank you for having me on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It is always a pleasure in an honor.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So we are talking all things love and marriage, love
and marriage.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
And loving marriage and baby.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We're gonna be parents.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh this is happening.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So yeah, I mean, well, first and foremost, we haven't
done an episode together in almost a year.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh it's been that long, I think. So it's been
way too long.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well, definitely last season.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So let's say it's at least been six months, but
it feels like a year, okay, because so much has transpired.
So one, let's catch the people up. We just celebrated
three years. Three years of marriage.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
It has been flying by. There's so much that has
happened in three years.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So literally, I was sitting back the other day and
just watching like video clips from like our honeymoon, and
there was a couple of things that I noticed.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
One, I was a lot skinnier.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Two you look exactly the same I do.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Tell me your secrets, I felt, Well, it's vitamins, it's
a regular workout plan. It's uh, okay, now I'm gonna
tell you more. It's it's those those Uh. I've been
on the smoothie kick. That's true for almost a year.
That's solid, if not every day, at least every other day,
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making like fruit smoothies. I've also integrated greens into my life.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh that was an answer prayer. That's not an everyday occurrence.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
But you know, I'm still on the path of presence,
which we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I'm so excited. I'm still so much.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, it's the sanctification process. I'm still being sanctified in
my greens right now.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But but I also think that that is something that
we can talk about because I think that that is
something that I've even recognized even being pregnant, is that
this pregnancy, I feel like it's sanctifying me in certain
ways that I just hadn't been sanctified before.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So babies will do that for you, apparently, It's what
I've been told. This is what you've been told. Dad.
Friends out there, I love.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The fact that you are experiencing a level of sanctification
through health and diet.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Okay, yes, okay, So when I was thinking about what
I wanted to talk about and catching people up. Of course,
if you've been following along on our journey, then you
know that we've been podcasting that's like for years. It's
actually how we met. Fun fact, fun story. We're not
going to recapital on this episode, but if you haven't
heard it, you should definitely go back and listen to
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probably like what maybe like twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Episodes, yeah, something like that, not even twenty twenty. I
think we've recapped how we met.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, definitely twenty twenty two, because we got married in
twenty twenty two. That's right, so we've recapped that moral
of the story. Go back and.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Stream if you want to figure out no kind of
like our origin story about how we connected and how
we met, it was actually through a conversation. It was
actually through a podcast interview. So this is another reason
why I think it's so close to our hearts and
one of the reasons why I bring brainon on every
single season because I don't know if I would be
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doing this.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
How do we not have met?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Because you're my first guest, which is wild to.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Think about it. I feel honored.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, I feel honored because Babe, I love you, love
thank you. It was during the season where I was
insecure about interviewing people, and you kind of like burst
that bubble really quickly, so it helped me to be able.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
This is the Holy Spirit in me, it was.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But I love when he just uses you and he
uses you, man, and the impact that it has on me.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It helps me to grow. It sharpens me.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
That's what we're called to do.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It was iron sharpens iron, and that's what happened very
early in our relationship and our introduction, and it has
continued on in the last five years.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So I'm just grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
In this episode, I really wanted to of course, we're
going to talk about the pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
We're going to talk about all things.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We're going to talk about all things baby, but I
was reminded of something that you said.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Maybe three years ago.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Now we're getting to it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I mean, I feel like we've done the fluff introduction,
so now let's just go, let's dive in. Because there's
been a couple of things that I have just really
been paying attention to during this season of like preparing
for motherhood and also like certain things I'm sharing, certain
things I'm not sharing, how often I'm posting my bump
on social media, how often I'm sharing certain certain updates.
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And I was trying to I was really asking the
Lord where I was, you know, a little reserved, if
you will, in posting all the time, like pictures or
videos of me rubbing my bump and things like that.
And I was really trying to check to make sure
that it wasn't like from an out of fear place, right,
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because I do think those types of things are real, Like, hey,
I don't want to, you know, celebrate too soon.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I don't want to do this.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So I was really checking in with the Holy Spirit
just to see, like, is that part of it? And
I'm not going to sit up here and line and
say that there weren't times and seasons to where, especially
in the beginning, that that was part of it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But the Lord.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Reminded me of something that he had said to you
when we were dating. And I want to say this, man,
I've been back in like twenty twenty or twenty twenty one,
and I want to bring it up because I think
that that really should go into kind of like where
we go with the conversation. But you had told me
one time it came over and said, the Lord told
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me not to make a child in idol, and I
was one throne because at that point we weren't trying
for nobody's baby, we were not married, we were not engaged.
So my first initial thought at that time was is
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the Lord preparing you for us not to be able
to have kids? Because that was the only way that
I could really wrap my mind around why he would
share something like that at that time, Like, the first
thought that came into my mind was very fearful. But
the reason why I'm bringing that up is because during
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this season of pregnancy, like one of the things that
I think that and I don't want to say we've
done well, but It has kind of been an I'm
very curious to use your thoughts on this has kind
of been the thing that we've just kind of like
really held on too. Is our marriage being first priority
(08:08):
and not being so overcome like we are we are joyous,
oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Where we are not just joyous, we are estatic and
so excited.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So we're overcome with joy, but not at the expense and.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Cost of us prioritizing and put in our marriage first.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Right, And I was sitting back and I was thinking, like, oh,
my goodness, this is that word that God gave you.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Wasn't just because.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Of our process or our path to getting pregnant. That
word was going to be relevant while being pregnant, sure,
and that word would be relevant after having children. Yes,
So I'm just curious to know that did you think
that years ago when he at first set that to you,
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did you think that was like a timeless word or
did you feel like it was just okay, like we
may have some issues getting pregnant, or it may take
a little bit longer than what we think, or any
of those things.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Well, unpacking that and kind of going back to that
conversation because I actually remember the conversation. We were outside
walk taking a walk when it happened, and we were walking,
Oh we were, Yes, we were.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And it was an evening, and.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I forget what the conversation was, but I remember feeling
like the Holy Spirit was just just so kindly and
whispered like, don't make having a baby an idol. And
I know that seems very heavy and very.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Sensitive, because this is a sensitive topic.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And when I said it, I think it was just
one of those things where, hey, keep we should always
keep our focus in our eyes on Jesus, we should
always turn a look upon Him in every aspect of
our lives, but specifically for that aspect. I didn't feel
as though, oh, there was gonna be challenges or you know, uh,
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a problem we were gonna have to walk through. Because
children are are promises. They their their legacy, their their gifts,
their arrows in your quiver. The Bible says, you know,
I do felt I had felt like it was it
was like almost the Abraham story of him and Sarah
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and conceiving, but not not to the extent of like
they they were trying and trying and trying, and he
became weary on Like God, you said I was gonna
have an air but why is this not happening? I
think when I said, don't let having a baby become
an idol, it's easy to take your focus off of
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Jesus and put it on.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Something or someone else.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
And sometimes that is with your kids, like they become
your life, and sometimes they become your identity, and you
start projecting upon your kids so much because they become
the primary focus, they become not sometimes unbeknownst, because it's
just life is lifing. And so yeah, to answer your question,
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I think that that when I said it, I felt
the weight of that and I knew it was Holy Spirit,
and I didn't think it was for a season. I
felt like it was to carry through.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah I did not, So that's fine.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I mean I feel like we have those You and
I have those kind of moments all the time. We
can literally be washing dishes and a word just drops
and I'm like, I feel like that was.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
For sure, and then that's when it goes into like, okay,
this is you know, this is a timeless word of
the Lord, Like this is a timeless reminder of keep
your eyes and your focus on Jesus. So you know,
for those we didn't really share this publicly on the podcast.
I don't think that I ever did like a conversation
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about it, but I want to say it, like a
year and a half ago, I did have to go
and do surgery and have some fibroid removal, and I
was extremely nervous and just if I'm just gonna call
it what it is, I was flat out scared about
just the process of what that was going to mean
for me. So I remember sitting in the doctor's office
(12:49):
as he is running through all of these things to
discuss about, like what could potentially happen during the surgery
and all of that, and I just felt like the
Holy Spirit whisper, I told you not to make having
a child an idol, and this is why I said it.
And as soon as when that came upon me, funny enough,
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while it felt like a rebuke, and I say this,
I gonna be very mindful of this. It felt like
a rebuke because the Holy Spirit knew the fear, worry,
and anxiety that was welling up. And even though I
wasn't verbally saying it, Holy Spirit knew and rebuked the
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fear and anxiety that it was coming. And then encouraged me.
And somebody say, you felt like that was an encouraging word. Yes,
because the Bible says that the Lord rebukes who he loves,
So in that moment when he is rebuking me of this,
I immediately felt his love and grace and protection because
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I knew that he was rebuking me of this, because
that worry, fear, and anxiety was a lie and and
trick of the enemy. So I I of course did
not know how the surgery was gonna go. I didn't
know what the results were going to be. But in
that moment while during the rebuke, and this is just
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the goodness of God and just his sovereignty and all
of it, I also just felt his kindness. I knew
that he saw me in that moment, he knew what
my thoughts were, and he had to let me know
this is not the time for you to even give
into those thoughts. And this is why three years ago
I had told your husband, do not make this an idol,
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so that you guys went and even carry that which
immediately this is what happens when the Lord rebukes and
he gives your word. It also just completely causes you
to repent. That's one thing, you know, didn't know I
was going into like a teaching moment here.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Hey, but it's good.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But I'm serious when sometimes people are so nervous or afraid,
and I've talked about this a lot recently, people are
so afraid or uncomfortable about a rebuke. But this is
the thing, when a rebuke truly comes from the Lord,
even if like literally in this conversation, in this situation,
the Holy Spirit did it directly to me. He did
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not use my husband or anyone else to deliver it.
But there has been times to where the Lord has
used people to deliver the rebuke. And this is the thing.
When it's truly of the Lord, it will prompt you
to repent. You will not feel shame, you will not
feel condemnation, but you will be reminded, Like Jesus, I'm
(15:34):
so sorry that I forgot for a moment who you were,
who you are to me, and what your word says. Right,
that's when you know the rebuke is of the Lord.
So I say all that to say, as we you know,
went through that process of clearly the surgery went well.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
It was it was miraculous success.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
It was a success, right, I didn't healing journey, and.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Literally you fast forward to what was that.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
A year and a half later, almost a year and
a half, yeah, almost a year and.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
A half, maybe like a year.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
After fully healing, we find out that we're pregnant and
then starts this beautiful journey of becoming parents.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
So yeah, I thought about that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And then I think as we start talking about our
lives and future, and it was something that you said
the other night, which I was kind of like, that's
so good.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
What I say? What I say?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I think we were sitting down and we were just
finished having dinner, and you were like, I love this,
and this is something that I'll I'll always desire because
the kid's gonna grow up, they gonna leave us.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Oh yeah, yeah exactly. I mean, as they should leave
and cleave to your life children, you know, yeah, I
mean I it's it's the beauty. It's the beautiful simplicity
of one love that this is this, this was the
(17:12):
design of the father from the beginning, and that when
you go through life and you go through getting married,
then having kids, you know, planting in a in a city,
developing community, building with your spouse, your partner, and then
providing for your children, teaching your children, instilling them the
(17:38):
fear of the Lord and also the love of Jesus,
and showing them as a father. You know, you really
start comprehending, which I mean, I have so many friends
that have been dads.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And parents, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I mean, I fully have like grasped that concept of
like this is how ges sees us as a dad,
Like this is how this is the father sees me
and sees you, Like we are not orphans. We are
sons and daughters of Jesus. We've been called to a
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higher place by the blood that was shed on cavalry.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
That was the atonement, you know, for.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Sin, but also future sin and even our selfish motives
and thoughts, Like I know that's going so deep into
like y'all are just about to be parents, but that
that's just sitting down and having dinner. Like I do
have moments where I'm like, man, everything's about to change
for us. But at the same time, there'll be another
(18:46):
drastic change when our kids grow up and move away,
you know, and it's back to Wow, we're back to
the how we started, which is great and I actually,
I mean I can't wait for it. All, I can't
wait for all the transitions.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I think the biggest part in those transitions where I've.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Seen, yeah, what's gonna be my next question?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
While I'm so grateful that I'm a PK pastor's kid
and have grown up in the church, and with that,
you see a lot of lives, you see a lot
of dynamics and a lot of family dynamics. And I
think where I have seen I don't want to say mistakes,
but I've definitely seen approaches on it right that people
(19:37):
parents grasp moments and they keep the moment, and they
stay living in that moment twenty years from that moment.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And while it's.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Great to keep memories and go back and think about
it and relive it and laugh about it or cry
about it. God is This is who God is. He
moves from glory to glory, he does a new thing.
He's He's always on the move. And our life is
the same thing. You know, it should be where we
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are constantly moving forward. We're not staying captured in a
time or captured in that moment. Because it's not good
for nobody. It's not good for you spiritually, it's not
good for your partner, and your spouse and it's not
good for your kids.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I I think.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I've had a lot of that thinking since we've found
out that you know, we're going to become parents. Like,
it makes you think about all the things of like
how you were raised, how you want to raise your kids. Yeah,
for sure, the mistakes you don't want to make, the
mistakes that you are going to make sure, you know.
It's just so different but so beautiful at the same time. Yeah,
(20:54):
And it really does taking it really does make you
have to take the approach of trusting God only because
you cannot control anybody. And actually God has not designed
parents to control their kids. God has given you kids
to steward them well and lead them well, and that
(21:16):
is the only thing that you can do and should
do and point them to Jesus all along the way.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, because the truth of the matter is is that
while there are kids, they're His kids first.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
First.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yes, Like that is something too that the Lord has
reminded me, is that, Yeah, I know your children because
they're my children. I knew them before I even blessed
your wound, before I even.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Put them in your womb, I know. So it's just beautiful. Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
But while you were talking, there were a couple of
things that stood out to me, And one of the
things is that the time capsule piece is really really
good because I think that that you know, I'm not
a pique, but I can see where parents and children
that are now adults can create moments and they stay
(22:09):
in those moments because they're so good, and it's like,
do you remember when God did this good thing? And
everybody's in agreement, Yes, I remember when God did that
good thing. And this is the part that I think
people kind of glaze over or they don't want to receive.
(22:32):
God did a good thing, and now God is doing
a new thing, and I have to trust that in
God's new thing, it's good for those that love Him
and are called according to His purpose. And that also
works on the flip side, I know there's some people
listening to their like, my family hasn't time capsuled any moments.
(22:57):
We don't have the good memories, we don't have the laves,
don't have the jokes. Maybe it is somber, maybe it
you know, maybe there are levels of trauma and dysfunction
that has happened. But even in those bad moments, in
those bad things, you can still trust that in God's
new thing.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It can be good.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It will be good for those that are called according
to His purpose that love him.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, that's what his word says.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And I think sometimes we love moments so much, or
we stay in moment so much because we don't fully
trust in the Lord with all our hearts as much
as we say as believers. Sure, And I can be
convicted of that so many times, in so many moments
to where when you just really look at if you
(23:49):
were just to do soccing inventory of your day to day,
if you're week to week, and you see what wins.
Is it that you were fearful and anxious all week?
Or were you trusted in walking in the little and
receiving the peace that surpasses all understanding. And that is
the challenge sometimes for people. It is like, receive the
peace that God himself has given you through his son
(24:13):
Jesus that surpasses all understanding of what you know to be,
and trust that the Lord is good and that he
cares and that he loves you. So that's really really good.
I love all of that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yea, this is so good.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
So the other thing that I really want to talk
about was during this time and season one of the
words that you have learned, Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It's stillness.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
And I don't know, well, I know for a fact
that I shouldn't even say I don't know. I know
for a fact that we have never ever done an episode,
podcast or any type of content and relating to you
being still and relating to your understanding of stillness.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
And this is one of the most beautiful parts that
I think that I've seen in your you know, fatherhood
journey as you're preparing to become a dad, is you
have really been embracing just having quiet time, like true
quiet time with the Lord. So I'm just very curious
if you could kind of share a little bit about
(25:31):
that and when you've gotten of that and all that stuff, well.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Is part of my stillness.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I also want to say learning humility another layer of humility, right, because.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Obedience is what I mean here. We will read it
in the Bible.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
God desires obedience, not sacrifice, right, and so it takes
humility to obey, But it also takes humility to just
sit and stay.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Oh okay, now let me unpack all of that.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
So, if you know me at all, I've always been
on the go from one group of friends to another
group of friends, or one church event to another church
event to lead worship, or in the music industry side
one project to another project, touring, traveling, YadA, YadA, YadA.
(26:32):
So in this season with and you know, the last year,
there has been a lot of of course unravelings as
you as we've been talking about, but professionally, it's been
the most fruitful year that I've seen in my life
because I do believe God told me to do what
(26:54):
I needed to do and there was so much fruit
and harvest from that. And I'll just be honest on
the pod today, like God told me back in twenty
twenty to focus on my music. And at the time,
I was traveling, you know, a ton, and I was
traveling off of no music. I was traveling off of
(27:17):
other people's music, and I had no catalog for myself.
And it was, you know, one of those things where
I was on staff out of church and we relocated
to Florida, and it was a portion of pastor in Florida,
and we felt like the Lord told us to move
to Franklin, Tennessee, and we followed that, and you know,
the Lord really just opened up a window of heaven
(27:39):
over us and landed a management deal. And I finished
last year with close to ninety songs completely done and
wrapped up. Okay, yeah, I know insane, But I say
all that because anybody that knows me knows I'm a
workhorse and my work ethic is just insane. And I
(28:03):
don't know how to stop and turn off on that side.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
So I heard the Lord say.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Recently to stay still and watch me, and I was like, Okay,
what does that mean, Like you want me to stop working?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Or do you want me to sit down? What do you?
What do you? What do you? What do you want? Yeah?
So I sat down. But also it is it coincided with.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Shout out to our church too, because we we love
our church and our pastors at the Belonging here in Nashville.
We just truly love the heart and the spirit of
the ministry and their leadership and value the leadership. But
we started this the series that's a ten week course
(28:58):
called The Path of Presence, and it's a discipleship book,
but it's it's literally a discipleship book with and it
says dwelling with Jesus. And we've been reading it and
going through it, and we'll actually.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Put the link.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Everybody should order it.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Definitely order this book. Probably encouraged so good. I mean,
it's so it's the best of milk and also meat,
if you know, if you know the Bible terms, you know,
coming off of milk to be it's totally that. I mean,
it just really breaks down our relationship with Jesus. And
(29:39):
I mean I told you this, you know, a couple
of days ago. I was like, I've always known Jesus
my whole life. I was, I was saved at like
five years old, and you said God, I said God, Yes,
I did say God. I've known God my whole life,
and you know, just God saved a five and had
(30:00):
a relationship with God. But I was like, within the
last several weeks here, recently, I've rediscovered who Jesus is
in my life as an adult, and I was like,
it's the most beautiful thing to.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Just really see his meekness.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And his humility and how he describes himself, Like he
could have described himself in so many different ways, powerful, authoritative,
all these things and they were all be true. But
to see that he himself said he was meek and
he was loving. That's that's that's the key is the
(30:42):
humility in all we do and so all of that,
I have learned to sit still here and because of
sitting still, I have rediscovered who Jesus is. And it's
just been I keep saying this word, but it's been
so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah m hm, Well, there was a lot that you said.
I think that I want to yes, all good. I
wanted to remind back because as you were going through
all the transitions from the moving, to the positions, to
all the things to originally getting the word of focus
on the music. This is the interesting part and I
(31:23):
think that this possibly will help a lot of people
because sometimes we can sometimes we can hear a word
and we can take on our own assumption on what
we think that it means.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And the reason why I think this one is so
important and so key is because this specific word when
the Lord told you to focus on the music. Now
that you have done and completed ninety songs, you understand
the amount of focus intention in quiet time was necessary
an interrupt it to get those songs done, and that
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was not the reality of what your schedule was prior.
So this is why I love the Lord he's so funny.
He gives an instruction and the instruction is focused on
the music, and then we think that that doesn't mean
that we would have to change our habits, our routines,
sometimes the proximity of relationships. So we can then try
(32:25):
to overbook and become busier because the Lord gave us
an assignment.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Oh, I gotta do something.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
But what I have learned in watching you in this
season is that the Lord gave you this instruction because
what he was really asking to do and what he
really wanted you to see was that ninety songs was
not possible with the current schedule that you had, with
the boundaries that were set up, and even with the
(32:54):
posture just to be able to sit in the house
and get them done right, yeah, it just it wasn't
possible during that time. It would have required drastic change.
And I think this is really important for people because
a lot of times you really focus on the promises
(33:15):
that God says, the prophetic words that we get the
exciting ooh, what God's going to do in this season?
And this is the interesting part to that is that
when there's an assignment given from the Lord, it will
always require a change of us to complete the assignment
(33:39):
right when it is a god given thing, a god
given instruction. To assume that nothing about you, your situation,
your day to day, your relationships, your perspective, your focus
would have to change is just not realistic.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
And I think sometimes we have and I can attest
to this. We can want the word to come to
pass so bad, but we are unwilling to look at
our current setup and say, what do I have, what
do I have to do in order to complete the
(34:20):
assignment in order to obey this instruction. And sometimes we
don't want to hear those relationships that are very close,
you're going to have to move them out the way
so I can be there. We don't want to hear
that there may have to be a change in the
environment because the current environment that you're in is not
(34:40):
conducive to the creative process that you will need or
I will need to bring in new relationships, new resources,
all of these things. So I love this because in
the process of you obeying the Lord, which you are
a thousand percent right, obedience automatically requires humility because it
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requires you to obey what the Father tells you and
in order to do that.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
You have to humble.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yourself to receive the word and then completely turn from.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Your way and do it God's way.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
And I love that God is just so good and
he's just so kind and so faithful that every time
you took a step and did something that really looks
like what are you doing? Like literally, I think people
were like what are you doing? There was a lot
of people saying that that's not the move, that's not
the way, don't do that, don't do this. But it
(35:41):
was your just blatant obedience to where when you got here,
the only thing left for you to do at that
time was to sit, trust God and do what he
told you to do.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
About four and a half five years ago.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, and I'm still there. I'm still in that posture.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Of sitting and trusting and being obedient but still being
productive and which you know, I think if you go
back to the beginning, like with the Garden of Eden,
which again this is part of the book that but
(36:28):
it's true, and I'm going to actually equate it to
labor and working, because God's design for work and and
for man is you know, he he created heavens and
the earth, and he created creation and he created you know,
animals and all these things, and then he created Adam,
(36:48):
gave him life, but then gave him purpose. And God
loves work, and but he loves healthy work because he
loves productivity.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Because God loves gifts.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
He loves giving gifts to people, and with those gifts
comes creating. But it's where we get out of whack
in other areas, or out of alignment in other areas,
where working habits can become unhealthy because.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
You're unhealthy spiritually, or you're.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Unhealthy even practically and physically because of your overworking yourself.
But God never designed it to be that way. He
actually told us to take a sabbath and rest. So
when we don't rest, when we don't take sabbath, when
we don't take a season of rest, that's where life
(37:40):
becomes heavy weighty life, life's and we become unhealthy because
we're not taking the practical steps of the simplicity of Well,
if God said this, then maybe we should put that
into practice.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
And I've learned that and I'm learning that, and so
Sabbath has been so big for me in this season
last year, I think I'm just I'm so grateful to
be free from religion and really understand the relationship with Jesus.
(38:21):
And because if you go back to the religious laws
of the Phariseutical way, and the Pharisees, like they put
those laws into practice knowingly that it was going to
be so unattainable to be perfect. And in fact, when
Jesus came, they called him demonic, and they called him wicked, and.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
They were so blinded that he was the Messiah.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
And he was who he said he was, and he
was Jesus three and one, God, the Father, and Holy
Spirit all in one. They could not comprehend and understand
it because religion had blinded them.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
For so long.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
And I feel like the church has been big. C
Church has been in religion for such a long time,
and we're so unaware in the simplicity of taking a sabbath,
you know, or tithing or just the practical spiritual habits
(39:17):
putting those into place. It's not ritualistic, it's practical because
God said it, because He knows better for us to
keep us healthy and cover us.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, Like, I don't think that I really recognize how
big the daily obediences are. Like people always talk about
the spiritual warfare and what you go through. But I'm
gonna tell you something like the battles that we face,
like those big storms when they come, like, I don't
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know why we would ever think that we are prepared
for them if we have just completely been laxed on
all the other daily times that we could obey what
the Lord has said. And then when the big one hits,
we're like, okay, what we gotta do. We gotta do
a fast We start putting it in all this well.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
And this is so funny, right because we always like
to talk about these storms. But the ultimate storm that
we have seen, where Jesus was on the ship or
the boat, whatever you want to call it, and.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
He was asleep with the disciples, this storm hits.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
The disciples did not prepare, They did not have time
too fast good, they did not Oh man, the enemies
come and wait, they had Jesus, son of God, son
of Man, sleeping on deck.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
So why would you even think.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
About saying, oh my goodness, we're gonna die, Oh my goodness,
we're gonna sink, We're gonna we're gonna drown. In fact,
Jesus was so chill and calm. He gets up, he
walks off the boat onto the water, while if the
storm is happening, for a teaching moment to be like,
come on out, come to me, and that's it in
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our lives. That is the example, because that's good. We
you know, it's easier said than done because we are humans.
But we have to again go back to watch Jesus,
go back to the word of Jesus saying peace, be
still in the stillness. He's present in the stillness. There's
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hope in the stillness. There's joy in the stillness of
who God is. God speaks and he moves, and he
loves on us when we just yield, humble ourselves, repent
and look upon him.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
So good.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
So the last question to wrap up is, and maybe
answered this, I don't know, but what has been a
recent question then that you have asked God?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
And what has that response been?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
You know, with so many transitions of so many changes,
just in the last couple of months, is there a
question that you are a petition to the Lord? And
if so, like, how have you been processing his response?
If he has responded, and if he hasn't, how are
you processing his silence?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Well, no, he's not being silent in my life, right
now at the questions I've been asking him, his response
was stay still and watch me. Okay, So that was
that was, you know recently, Like that's why I'm going
through this book and sitting down and just consulting with
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the Holy Spirit and inviting the Holy Spirit to dwell
and to create with me, and to sit with me
and love on me, you know, and all of the
practical questions like will work itself out as we are
obedient and and also practically productive too, like you don't,
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you don't just become you know, so like, oh, I'm
just gonna soak all day and just it's gonna work out,
Like no, you got to put your feet to the
to the ground and your hands to the plow, and
you can soak as you're working, you know, and and
seek God.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
So that that's where I'm at with with.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
The questions I'm asking the Lord and his responses stay
still and watch me.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
I love it. Well, guys, that kind of wraps this episode.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
We we.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
As always want to encourage you.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I think we always want to just be honest and
testify about where we are and just how we are
walking with the Lord, and we just appreciate you guys
just tuning into this week's episode, Definitely make sure that
you go over and follow at I am Brandon Watson.
He has new music that has dropped, new music that
is actually fa There's one dropping tomorrow. There's always one dropping,
(44:04):
he says, this is what happens when you write ninety
songs in the year. But definitely make sure that you
go over to Spotify, that you go and can they
pre save what's the situation.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Pre saved stream? Just stay close to it, I guess not.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
I guess. Definitely stay close.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
To the journey and the movement on the podcast here,
but also the music side. There's so much dropping and releasing.
So yeah, let's let's have a good time this year
twenty twenty five. We're in this thing twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Five, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
So guys, definitely make sure that at the end of
this episode that you go like, share, and subscribe, Definitely comment.
I'm gonna put the link down below so that you
guys can order, have to presence, highly encourage it. If
you are actually looking for discipleship, I am telling you
that this book is for you.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
And maybe that sounds weird.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Maybe you've never heard someone say, if you you are
looking for discipleship, read this book. We usually people say,
if you're looking for discipleship, look for this person. But
guess what the person is Jesus, And that's who we're
pointing you towards. So thank you so much for tuning
into this week's episode of The Kids Podcast.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Until next week, be blessed,
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Cardiac Cowboys
The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.