August 18, 2025 • 63 mins
Join us Today at 11 AM EST for a powerful and thought-provoking conversation REPLAY with the incredibly gifted Trinity Monaá on The Kim Jacobs Show!
As a Behavioral Psych Technician, award-winning poet, visual artist, and aspiring trauma therapist, Trinity Monaá brings a compelling blend of professional insight and raw creative expression. Her work shines a light on mental health, trauma, and healing—drawing from her own experiences and her work within the community.
We'll be discussing: Her poetic journey and award-winning work The deep themes behind her art and writing Her vision for a new TV show concept: "The Life of Trinity Monaá"
And how she’s turning pain into purpose through creativity
Whether you’re a fan of poetry, mental health advocacy, or inspired living—you don’t want to miss this!
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As a Behavioral Psych Technician, award-winning poet, visual artist, and aspiring trauma therapist, Trinity Monaá brings a compelling blend of professional insight and raw creative expression. Her work shines a light on mental health, trauma, and healing—drawing from her own experiences and her work within the community.
We'll be discussing: Her poetic journey and award-winning work The deep themes behind her art and writing Her vision for a new TV show concept: "The Life of Trinity Monaá"
And how she’s turning pain into purpose through creativity
Whether you’re a fan of poetry, mental health advocacy, or inspired living—you don’t want to miss this!
Watch LIVE on The Kim Jacobs Show YouTube Channel: Youtube.com/kimjacobsshow
Invite your friends to watch with you!
To become a supporter of The Kim Jacobs Show to help us Bring Balance to the World one Household at a Time: Paypal.me/kimjacobsinc or Venmo @thekimjacobsshow or ZELLE or APPLE CASH to 704-962-7161
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-kim-jacobs-show--2878190/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have a great show lined up for you. I'm
your host, Kim Jacob's better known as the Balance Doctor,
and all of our guests that come on there either
people that have overcome some tremendous odds in their own
lives as they balance these things called life, or they're
experts and they're here to share tips and strategies that
will help you better balance and manage your life. Grab
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your virtual seats, and let's get ready for some real,
relevant and relatable content on today's episode of a Kim
Jacobs Show. Everyone, it is the Kim Jacobs Show where
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we're bringing balance to the world, one household at a time,
and today we're doing that with none other than Trinity Monette.
Hey Trinity, how are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm doing great? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm doing even better because you are here getting ready
to just help change lives and make lives better. I
personally believe God gives all of us gifts and talents
and he expects us to use them to salt the earth.
And when I met you, I was like, Oh, I
have to have her come on this show for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thank you, thank I'm truly honored.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Thank you, Thank you for saying yes I appreciate it
so much. What made you actually say yes? Because I'm
the one that ask you.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I wanted a way to promote my book, and this
is definitely outside of my comfort zone. And my move
here to Charlotte was me going is for me to
go out my comfort zone. So I was like, well,
God put me here, so they might as well do it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And do you believe in that that God puts you
in the right place at the right time, or do
you believe more in happenstance.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I am definitely believing more that God puts me in
the right place at the right time. Every day He's
showing me that he's doing it. He's in control.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But this is good. This is good. So everybody listen
as you all are grab in your different seats and things,
I want you to know that some of the content
that we talk about today maybe a little more intense,
So keep that in mind if you have any of
your young people watching.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I like to always just set.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The expectation that you know that is a real life
testimony here, and so I don't know how deep we'll go,
so I want to make sure that I'm courteous and
let you all know that because today we're talking about
the complexities of the human experience, the complexities and there's
so many different angles and spin offs to life's journey,
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and so our guest Trinity is going to almost like
take us on a roller coaster ride tonight and help
us or today, I should say, because this airs at
all different times depending upon where you are in the country.
Believe it or not, Kim Jacobs show now actually airs
in one hundred countries, so in some places this morning,
some night, some in the middle of the night. It's
all over the world places happening. But she's going to
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take us on a journey in her own personal way
this evening. So let me introduce her to you, and
definitely need my glasses for this, okay. So her background
is very unique, blending her professional experience and I'll let
her talk about her behavioral site background and how that's
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worked along with her career as a poet and an
aspiring trauma therapist. She's multifaceted in all different walks of
life and really heavily does a lot of her work
around her creativity, and we're going to learn more about
that as well. She's graduate twenty twenty one, graduate of
Claflin University, and her academic journey has also helped her
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creative pursuits. So it's a lot of different things that
she's been known for and become literally critically acclaimed in
my opinion of some work that she's done, and we'll
talk about those as well. So again, welcome here to
the show.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
All right, so let's just deep dive right into our
conversation and tell us just tell us a little bit
about your background, who you are, where you came from,
because you don't just become creative. You actually had something
that was brewing in you from early on.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So let's just talk about some of your backstory first.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, Ever, since I was young, I was always a writer.
At first, it was gospel songs. When I was younger,
I would try to write gospel songs. In middle school
and elementary school, it was stories, but that wasn't my niche.
It was really in college when I found my my niche,
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which was poetry. I decided I used to use poetry
as a way to cope. Actually I still do, and
I figured I wrote the book because I was like,
if I can cope with it, somebody else can be
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cope with it as well. It makes me feel less
alone and I can help others.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And so even though this was starting out as a
personal journey for you, it's actually something that you knew
would ultimately inspire other people. So you had to get
it out.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yes, definitely had to get it out.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And at what age do you say you realize that
this is bigger than me, This is way beyond just
Trinity Monette.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I think it was actually last year when it really
when people actually started reading. Because it used to be
just a small little book for myself. I never let
anybody look at it. But then I let my sister
read it. Actually, she was like, oh cool, I like
this this And she actually read the poem and had
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a different perspective than what I did, and I found
that really interesting and fascinating. And that's when I started
allowing other people to read more of my poems, and
a lot of other people had different perspectives than I
did or took something different from it, and I was
just like, Wow, different perspectives, different strokes for different folks.
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And I was like, maybe I should put it out
to the world.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yes, And I'm so glad you did, and just everybody
that's tuning in knows we're talking with Trinity Monet, and
she is the author of a poetry collection. All of
the illustrations that are in this material, the book that
she the publication, she's formally done something personal with that.
So how did all of the graphics come about? That's
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throughout your poetry collection.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
The graphics is brand new. It was a new concept
that I did about four months before I published. I
was I like doing a lot of creative things, like
I make stickers and I'm just learning how to make
T shirts and things like that. And I was dabbling
in acrylic art in watercolors. Interesting, yeah, And I started
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making canvases at first because one of my coworkers actually
was like, I want this poem right here on a
canvas on my wall. And I was like, I've never
thought of that. So I was like, I looked at
the poem and I was like, what do I think of?
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What picture comes to mind? I do that and I
made her the canvas and she loved it. And then
I was like, what if what other pictures can I
come up with and create with my other poems? That's
what I am. That's how I got there.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, I actually have one of them. I have the book.
I have the actual books, but I have this image here,
and I think that is so beautiful. The image is
absolutely beautiful, and it says it's one of your poems
called self love.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Do you mind if I read it for a second?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Go ahead, all right? It says I didn't love myself today.
My clothes felt too tight, too loose, too wrong. I
didn't love myself today. Looking in the mirror was too difficult,
too unnerving. I didn't love myself today. Beauty wasn't in
my vocabulary, where myself and ugly are synonyms. I didn't
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love myself today. Showering felt too much, eating too little.
I didn't love myself today, But I pray I do tomorrow.
M tell me about.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That that one I went to a poetry event and
a guy did a poem titled I didn't love myself Today,
and it moved me so much, and I was just like,
I have to do my own version of it, especially
because I do struggle with a major depressive disorder, so
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there's some days where I just don't love myself. So
I wrote that poem just to inspire hope into me
to like you. Know today was a good day, but
prayerfully another day will be better.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I think I really like the fact that we're talking
again about how people balance all different aspects of your life.
There are real people that I have coming here on
the show and regular ordinary type of everyday heroes that
are inspiring you through their work of art or through
their poetry collection. And to hear your heart about that,
(10:07):
I think that just really motivated me even more because
you're not putting on a facade. You're saying some days,
I really struggle with this, and because I struggle with this,
I have to ask for grace for the next day.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I love that Trinity.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I was silent for so long because you know, in
the black community, mental health is not a thing. So
I was just like, you know what, I'm gonna be
true to myself, true to my struggles and seek help. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I want to know in the studio audience, because I
don't want us to have a show and we don't
have conversation surrounding this, how many of you are true
to yourself?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
How many of you are really.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Willing to say there are some things that I'm struggling
with and maybe there's something even in Trinity Monette's poetry
collection that can truly help you on your journey or
hearing her today, maybe have questions that you just need
her to answer because she's being authentically herself and sharing
from a place of transparency. So please don't let today's
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episode go by and you not.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Get your questions answered.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I would like for you to tell us to Trinity
about your journey from Claflin University to becoming a behavioral
psych technician, because you're very proud of that title.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah I am, believe it or not. I did not
want to be a therapist or work with mental health
in the beginning. When I first went to Claughlin, I
wanted to be a an FBI agent. I wanted to
do forensic therapy, I mean forensic interrogations, you know. I
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wanted to work with serial killers and find out how
why their brain ticks, you know. But I met this
one teacher and he was talking. He used to tell
us about all these all his stories about working with
veterans and working with children with schizophrenia or children with
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multi personality disorder, and it just fascinated me so much.
And then I was like, well, and then I started
taking more of his classes, more of his mental health
based classes, and I was like, this might be it
for me, Like this is so interesting and so amazing
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to me, but it is hard to get into mental health,
especially with a bachelor's degree. So I started with autism.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Okay, working with.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Children with autistic disabilities, and I love that. That was
so much fun, despite the tantrums and you know, bad days,
I absolutely loved it. But I knew that I wanted
to go back into mental health. Wanted to go back
into helping people struggle with I mean, deal with their
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everyday struggles like I have. So my friend actually helped
me find the job I was at. She was like, listen,
if you want to do this, let's let's start sitting
down finding jobs, applying to jobs. And I got into
the behavioral tech. I work at an awesome hospital and
I get to meet amazing people every single day that
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just are down on their luck one day, like one day,
like one guy he was an amazing person and had
all these big dreams but just had schizophrenia. And like
just talking with them and just talking and really relating
to them and helping them and then watching them leave
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through those doors never to return again. It's so inspirational,
so inspiring, and I just I love what I do.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
That is so I can feel it. I can feel
I'm actually typing what you're saying because I want to know,
have you ever felt anybody that's tuning in today, have
you ever felt down on your luck? And how did
you handle it? Because I think that how we handle
it can determine if what type of help we actually
need in my opinion, so I would love for anybody
that has any input on ever feeling like you've been
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down on your luck and what you personally did to
have a better outcome for yourself, and so just please
share it, because I think what you're doing right now
on this show is going to help so many people
because you're painting the picture of somebody having a great day,
then for whatever reason, something happened transpired and they're feeling
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down on their luck and that changes the trajectory of
their love. Yeah, so talk more, talk more. From that perspective,
What are some of the things that you've been able
to personally do in your role to help people feel
more like they have hope.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
The biggest thing is just sitting there and listening to them,
just talking about their struggles their everyday lives, how they
view the world, and not coming from a place of
judgment or you know, you're crazy. Here's some medication just
sitting there and listening and making them feel like a
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human again, because sometimes in the sec word, it's just like, oh,
they're not they're talking mess like just leave them alone.
But then it's just like, yeah, but they're they're stuck
in their brain. Yeah, seeing them out of that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, I'm glad you're saying. I'm really glad you're saying that,
because everyone wants to be heard. So I don't know
anybody in the world that does not appreciate somebody hearing
them out and listening to what it is that they
are dealing with, even if we think is a valid
issue or not. The point is they want to be heard.
(16:17):
You know, I want to be heard. You want to
be heard. So given the same common courtesy that we
would want from someone else to from ourselves to that
person is something that can really make a difference in
their lives, you know. Yeah, And I was looking up
statistics here too. According to the National Institute of Health,
mental illness is very common in the United States and
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around the world. It's more estimated than more than one
in five US adults. That's me, you, Mackenzie's backstage. That's
three of us. And then just pick any of my
two kids. One of us have a mental health disorder
situation according to these statistics.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's fifty nine point three million people and that was
in twenty twenty two, so you know, it's twenty three
point one percent of the US adult population. And what
is a lot of times people don't even really know
what defines a mental illness is actually defined as mental
behavior or emotional disorder, and it can vary because a
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lot of times people think, oh, we all have mental issues,
but really, whenever we think about it, if it's serious
and you need some assistance with it, then it's considered
more of a serious mental illness, not just any mental illness.
They have two different categories, any and serious. Yeah, anyway,
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it's all I could read that for days. It's very intriguing,
And Ashley said that that's so pure Trinity, Honey. I
love that. Sometimes just listening is here. Yeah, can you
can you give us an example of because it's easy
when we say, oh, just listen to the person, But really,
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I think It's almost like an art and a skill
to be able to do that. What what are ways
that you listen to the person that's dealing with their
psychiatric situation.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, as a student in therapy, we're taught to actively listen,
ask questions, summarize what they're saying, nod your head, make
continuous eye contact, and just be engaged, present in the moments.
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Don't let your mind wander and allow allow yourself to
be fully in the moment with that client or with
that patient.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I love I love that being fully in the moment
with that client, absolutely, Ashley said. I am very honest
with myself and even when it's things, I'm so much
better because of it. Being transparent, even with our own
selves and how we how we come across to people,
how we handle people, is important for us to be
able to have some necessary self talk. It's like, Kim,
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you could have done that a lot better, you know goodness, well,
you were like just shed it already or whatever I
was feeling, and that's what was coming across on my continents.
But sometimes we don't know how we look because, as
Les Brown says, all the time we're in the picture frame,
so we don't see ourselves. Other people have to tell
us how we look. Yeah, yeah, call nine eight eight Yes,
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nine eight eight is the suicide prevention right for any
emergency dealing with mental health illness. You can even call anonymously,
but please make sure you do reach out because there's
help for you if you're dealing with some mental crisis
for sure. All right, So I'm I'm eager to know too,
what inspired you to merge your professional life and your
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creative passions, because there are two ends of a spectrum,
like behavior and poetry.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You would think they're two ends of the spectrum, but
they actually go hand in hand. I mean in a
lot of Let me see, there's this thing called art
therapy and I love it. Actually once I graduate, I
want to start a nonprofit with my best friend in
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art therapy. But there's also a thing called play therapy
and I love that too. And sometimes people can't express themselves.
They just don't have the words. I mean, like there
are some countries that don't even have a translation for
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the word depression. So you got to express yourself somehow.
And if you don't have the words, then maybe you
do have the pictures. I mean, we've been as humans
as society, we've been coloring and drawing and doing hieroglyphics
for the beginning of time. Yeah, so if you can't,
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I feel like, if you can't express yourself with words,
do it through pictures. So yeah, they go hand in hand, really,
and I have like, if you can't tell them, at
least you can show them. You know, mute people they
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draw pictures, they write, they you know, they find ways
to communicate.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And you and you wrote, you drew so many different
I'm trying to make sure. I don't know. I don't
have all I don't want to show all the images
because y'all.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Want to get the book.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But you drew so many different pictures. What made you
that particular picture with that poetry piece.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
For that one specifically the it's it was a sunflower
and I love I can't I'm not the best to
head it. I'm not going to say that, but I
love drawing sunflowers in any capacity. So I was like,
I have to draw a giant or a collection of sunflowers.
Other poems like why I write it's a phoenix? I
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just wow, there is I said in the line that
I want my readers to come back from their dark
places like a phoenix rising from the ashes.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yes, and that's under the one why. And first of all,
you guys, let me just put this put this image up.
This book is filled with one hundred and two poetry
pieces and they range from monster to sunflower, to growing
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up to bruises to inequality, to the missing piece, to
new beginnings to dirty fingernails, easter eggs, you name it.
Every aspect of how we balance our lives is in here,
and a piece of poetry for you to be able
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to read to your young young adult children, to you
to your children so that they can know how to
guard themselves.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
It's a lot of stuff in this.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Book that everybody probably should have in your library, I believe.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Thank you. Yeah, so I really picked on the main
point that I wanted the reader to to take hold of,
Like if there's nothing else, I want you to understand
this part right here, And I made a picture out
of that.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
So the main point of each of your poetry piece
is the main takeaway. You draw an image to reflect it. Yes,
and it is beautifully illustrated because exactly what you just
said is what happens. When I read one piece. I
look immediately to see well, what's the main point of that?
And then I know, Oh, it's the moon in the
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sun and you got to it's a I'm like, I
feel like I'm watching a lifetime reading the collection of
this poetry collection. Y'all. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, let
me stay focused, Let me stay focused. Do you have
like a pivotal moment that happened in your own life
that led you to become the voice? Because I really
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feel like you are a voice and a force to
be reckoned with when it comes to mental health of awareness.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Thank you. I won't well. Once I've read realized my
role in most of my relationships, I think that was
the pivotal moment because ever since I was young, I
was a go to person to talk to. Trinity has
the best advice. She may not have gone through it,
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but she knows how to help you through it. She's
your biggest advocator, Trinity. If you need something to help you,
she'll have the resources and if she can't, if she
doesn't have it, she'll figure it out and give it
to you. And I did it naturally. So once I
finally realized, hey, this is something I do naturally, why
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don't I just do it intentionally? Now? Yeah? So once
I started doing it intentionally and actually like putting my
all into helping others, it was just they became second nature.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So when you say intentionally, because a lot of times
people really don't know how to be intentional about making
something become a reality, what did you do to be
intentional versus I'm writing it is mine, I'm hugging it,
I'm loving it. I love what I've done, But nobody
else ever benefits from it except for by mistake. Your
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sister encourages you type of thing. At least that's what
we think. It's not by mistake. It was by God's
divine order that she finally said, this has to salt
the earth.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
It has to salt the earth.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, So what made you become intentional versus private?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
When I started writing less from my experience and more
from others' experiences, that's when I became more intentional. Like,
there are some poems in here that I don't connect
with because I wrote it from a place of my
friend struggle, or I wrote it from a place of
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you know, what I've seen, what I work with, what
I went through.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, I think I'm very empathetic and I'm able to
walk in other people's shoes very easily, so it inspires
me in my writing. That's when I became more intentional.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
That's really good, and I want to know from in
the studio audience too. What are some things that you're
being intentional about regarding your life? Are you intentional regarding
your career? Are you intentional regarding your health? Are you
intentional regarding how you handle your relationships? Your family members,
your loved ones, your spouse, your significant other, your life partner.
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What are you really intentional about that you're proud to say,
I've put really strong effort into this. I would love
for y'all to be able to share some things. And
so your poetry pieces is something you're intentional about? Anything
else that you want to share that you really feel like?
I'm intentional about this as well?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
My art. Even though I'm not the like I'm not
the I'm not going to say I'm the best writer
or I'm the best painter or anything.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You might as well claim it. Baby, you can get
an award, So stop stop putting it out in an
atmosphere that you're not because you look here I don't know.
I don't know a lot of people that have a
hundred pieces that talk from love, pain, mirroring, person personification,
pain avoidance, how you change your mind. I don't want
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to die, but I'm just tired of living. It's a
lot of different pieces any here, Yeah, lots.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah. So I'm very intentional about my art. I love
learning how to figure out different ways to express myself
and like, I like, I'm starting to make stickers now.
I have a lot of different stickers. Some of them
go with poems. So some of them are just you know,
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about mental health, some of them about LGBTQ, and just representation. Yeah,
different times.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I was actually I was talking. I talked about this
on Sunday, even though I was talking about Pentecost. Sunday
is what I was actually talking about. And how the
fact that on the day of Pentecost when we were
all I say week because I feel like now I'm
in the upper room myself. I felt like I had
an upper room experience at my church service by being
in the upper room and being on one accord, and
how all of us at that time allowed God to
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be able to have the Comforter be there for us
to be able to evangelize and help encourage other people
to come to learn about Christ. And one of the
things that I mentioned is, you cannot tell me that
we have the love of the Holy Spirit if we
don't show love to everybody, regardless of whether we like
them or don't like them, or like the behavior or
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I don't like the behavior. We should be an example
of God's love and grace and mercy to people so
that they can then learn more about Christ and what
the expectations are so we can get cleaned up in
whatever areas that we're all lacking, because we all have
some areas that we're lacking in.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I don't know, I got sidetracked that.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I am a big supporter of underrepresentation. So if there's
any way that I can, you know, help represent or
get that voice out there, get the word out there,
I'm going to do it. So, yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Big believer in God's word and honoring what the Word
of God says pertaining to all of our lives. And
there are things that I have in my life that
when you look in the Word of God, is not
pleasing to God. So it's just if you come on
that Sunday you're gonna hear that too, because that's not
necessarily something that's pleasing in the sight of God or whatever.
But I think, you know, a lot of times we're
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eager to just grab hold, as my grandma would say,
to things that we're good at, and then everybody else.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Is like, you're not good in that area? Well, what
who are we? You not got stop it?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, anyway, let me carry on, Okay, okay, okay, okay.
So I also wanted to find out I was thinking
I was. I was trying to think of like a
variety of things that you recently got an award.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That's what I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
For one of your poetry pieces, the rabbit Hole won
what place first? And you're not let me let me
put my glasses sideways. You said, not the best work.
What is a higher place than first place?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Tell me nothing?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So do you think that there might just be a
possibility that, according to this work and body, that the
rabbit Hole won first place?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah? I actually wasn't even going to enter the competition
when I did, because I had I was just new
to poetry, and I was like, I'm probably shouldn't do it,
and we just wait another year and then I'll do it.
But my teacher, my poetry teacher, was like, no, this
is amazing. Submitted and it was right before COVID happened.
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And then COVID happened, and I didn't even know I
won until like what a year later because our school
dispersed and what happened. And my teacher actually told me
in class like, hey, did you know that you won
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this award? And I was like what, Actually, the prize
money came before they told me. Yeah, that's how it happened.
The prize money came before they told me. And I
was just like, what is this? Why do I this? Yeah,
it was really weird.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
And then you got notified. Then I won first place
for your piece? How how did that emotionally charge you?
As far as were you motivated, excited, overwhelmed? What were you?
It was?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
It was unreal. It was like what me, Me won
first place? And you know, I'm in a class with
like twenty different amazing poets and I'm like, wow, I
want that in the poem. They were like it's so
deep and it's so this and they were like, oh,
how long did it take you to write? And I'm
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just like five minutes, like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, so something that took you five minutes has impacted
so many people and I don't know. I don't you
want to wait until people get the book for that one.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
No, that's fine, I can read it.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Okay, we'll read it because I want you to be
the one to read that because it's from your heart
and it won first place. So before you read it,
I want y'all to put in the comments that you know,
put put rabbit hole, hashtag rabbit hole. Somebody got to
do something. I'm not gonna just have her reading and
no way supported anything here. Let's see hashtag rabbit hole
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and we will see if we're gonna go ahead and
let her read this. Let's see. Let's see, let's see
hashtag rabbit hole. Y'all, let's put some rabbit hole. I
see you over on Instagram too as well, type hashtag
rabbit hole, and we're going to get her to read
that piece. While we're getting you to type it, I
will just go ahead and invite you to support the
(34:37):
Kim Jacob Show while I'm giving them a chance to
typ I want you to support the Kim Jacobs Show.
Make sure you go had to pull it up though
over there for real. Okay, give me you.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
A chance to pull it up too.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
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Speaker 2 (35:53):
Just as Alice, she fell into the allying hole, Just
as Alice she fell really fall. Just as Alice, things
flew past her, but not Alice things. No, these things
were evil mean. These pictures, these playing cards, these painted roses,
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these clocks, these monsters of mind were her foes, not friends.
They taunt and tease, bruise and scream, Unlike her. When
Alice came back, no time had passed, but with her
years went by. Each mirror showed age, each clock painted years,
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each passing day she grew. She grew crazy, scary, mad,
but thank god, we're all mad here.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Who you know what? That pinched my heart a little bit?
So what was the rationale behind this?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I'm a huge Lewis carlfan huge Alice in Wonderland fan,
and of course most of my poems are about mental health,
so I wanted to use the two in parallelism to
show how mental health affects a person and how that
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and to show like they're not They're there physically, but
mentally they're not there at all. And with this poem,
I see, like I was, I had people with schizophrenia,
multi personality disorder all those in mind when I wrote it,
(37:40):
and I wanted to show, like, yeah, I wanted to
show how mental health really can take away a person's years.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
My gosh, listen, when I saw this image, this is
the image that's in there. Yeah, and I am it
since chills over me to see this particular image associated
with this piece of work because what it reminds me of.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
And well, I'm not gonna yeah, I gotta be careful.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
It's a person. I'll just leave it at generic. And
I asked this person that was diagnosed with autism. I said, well,
you know what change, just like, all of a sudden,
You're like a whole different person.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I don't understand what happened before you were.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Like this, And now since you've been diagnosed with this,
you're like fitting into the mold of what all of
the statistics.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Say that comes along with that.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And the person said, that's because I was trying to
be what everyone else wanted me to be. Yeah, and
now I can be true to myself. I can just
be me and know that finally maybe somebody believes whatever
it is because there's an official diagnosis. I say that
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to say, there so many people that are masking their equations,
and your poetry will give people the freedom to unmask themselves.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah. I really wanted people to see like, you're not
alone in this, and it's okay to struggle, and it's
okay to not be okay.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, I feel better being I feel better being around you.
I literally just recently met you and I was like immediately,
I just happened to sit beside you at the event, right,
and I was like, who is this that I'm connected
with and hearing our conversation and I felt like I
just feel better because I'm beside her.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
So that's the impact that you have on people.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I've actually had a patient tell me that my aura
is calming and they like to be near me. Yeah,
for you to like and then I've had people say like,
I'm a big ray of sunshine. So to hear you
say that, it's like, oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Really settling it now.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
And accepting it. And then I think sometimes when you
start to accept more of your gifts and your talents
that God has really trusted you with, that maybe somebody
else is entrusted with that particular piece of the world responsibility.
It's like you have to use it or the whole
world misses out. Yeah, so it's like you're depriving all
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of us if you don't use your gifts.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
And your talents. Yeah, anyway, I don't like in church going.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Let me just be no, I love it. Yeah, so
this is this is just really helpful. I would like
for you Mackenzie backstage, she's backstage helping me, if you
would please pop some of the studio audience comments up.
I'd greatly appreciate it. And let's see what some of
the people are saying backstage.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I mean, I'm in the studio audience. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
And then in the meantime, too many of your poems
explore depression and anxiety and loneliness. Why was that so
important when you were writing on your pieces?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Well, I used to say not. I used to say,
I write sad pieces because not everyone knows what happiness is,
but everyone knows what sadness is.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Oh my gosh, that's so true.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah. So not everybody can experience happiness, but everybody knows
what pain is. Everybody knows what it feels like to
be lonely. Everybody knows what it feels like to be
down and down on your luck and everything. So I
wanted to come at a place of commonality wow, and
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I wanted to get on their level and then bring
them up.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I think this answer is one of my next questions
because I really wanted to understand the process as far
as does the poem come first or the emotion of
the poem associated with the company. But now I think
you just answer that does the actuacy?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
It depends. It really depends. Sometimes the poem comes first,
but usually it's like, if the poem comes first, it's
something that I was feeling that I didn't realize I
was feeling, So it just it brings it to light.
The poem brings it to light, and it's just like, oh,
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that's something I gotta work through. Let's pinpoint that emotion.
Or like my best friend she has if I tell
her I'm feeling sad today, she immediately brings out the
emotion wheel, which one are these feelings? You say you're
feeling sad? All right, let's go underneath it. Is it
really depression? Is it really loneliness? Is it really this?
(42:58):
Is it really that? And then we get down to
the basics, the basic six emotions, and that's how we
work through our mental health issues. So sometimes when the
poem comes first, I'm just like, okay, emotion wheel, this
poem sounds like anger, Okay, what's under anger? How am
(43:18):
I actually feeling? Wow? And then when the emotion comes first,
it's like I'm lost in a trance and it's just
the pen and paper, and it's like whatever comes out
comes out, and I'm unapologetic about it.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
So this is what you're saying is so important because
there are ways then that you would need to protect
your vulnerability when it comes to your own emotional wellbeing.
Because when I've been reading through this, this sucks you
in into that world of that particular or piece that
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you've written. So I'm immediately because I used to be
in young Author's conference and all kind of stuff when
I was a kid. So I love reading and Judy Bloom,
Billy Clear all people. I love it. So when I'm
reading this, I feel like I'm being taken into the
journey of that particular poetry piece that you're in some
(44:23):
and it's emotional, it's laughter, it's all every piece of
the emotion will is there. How do you protect your
own vulnerability and emotional wellbeing writing stuff?
Speaker 4 (44:34):
Like this, I I don't I allow myself to be
completely wrong when I'm writing.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I feel like that's the only way it's complete. Like
I have stuff in my archives and I'm just like,
that's not that's like the surface level. Right to go deeper,
we need to actually hash this out. We need to
me and the pen versus my brain and my depression,
(45:07):
Like we gotta we gotta get through it, right. And
so all my poems shows are a piece of me.
They're my children, they're my babies. Each poem you can read,
you find a part of me in them.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
That that was what I was wondering too, because I
heard you say some of these are stories from some
of your patients and some of your friends and different
people that you've encountered along the way. But you're saying
that a piece of each of these collective items also
is a part of you.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yes, Like I'll take a poem about anger or love.
I'll take a poem about love. Most of my love
poems are different perspectives, but I also put myself in
that person shoe, that person's shoe. How would I feel
watching this? Like the poem wanting is about wanting to
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be in love and it was like me watching a wedding.
So it's me seeing that love of that person, of
this couple, like this amazing, god fearing love and it's
just like, well, I want that. I've never experienced it,
but I want that. And that's me taking from their
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experiences but putting it in my perspective.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
You know, you're such a beautiful soul.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I don't know if this poetry make you feel that
way about a person, because it's beautiful soul. So yeah, inspiring.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Okay, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Okay, Now you've been through some things yourself, because I
know that you are interested heavily in trauma therapy as well,
and so what what do you want to share? Because
I don't want to steer you in any direction.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Pertaining to that.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
What do you want people to know and dealing with
trauma and if whatever personal piece you want to share
about your own journey.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Okay, So I want to do rape trauma. That's my
that's my niche. That's what I want to do my
dissertation on that's what I want to do of all
ages and genders and whatever. Growing up, a lot of
my friends have been through that and they would come
to me and be like, hey, like I don't know
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how to feel, help me, or they come to me
and be like I need a vent. Like I had
one friend who had came over because their assaulter was
their family member and they had a family gathering that
day and they just had to be in the same
space with their assault. So lost my train of thought.
(48:01):
So thought, Yeah, so just having those experiences, having that
vulnerability at such a young age was so I'm not
gonna say it's traumatizing, but it did leave a lasting impact.
(48:22):
Not going through it myself, but basically going through it
secondhand and healing with my friends friend all right, Yeah,
healing with my friends and helping them through that. It
definitely left an impact. And I was just like, God
definitely put me in that place for a reason, and
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I should keep going with that.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
That's so good. That's so good.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
You keep mentioning friends, and that is I think that
is almost like a universal theme that's happening throughout this conversation.
How how important are friends in your journey and maybe
even who's inspired you from a creativity perspective and a
spirituality perspective.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Any thoughts on that friends are extremely friends and family
are extremely important to me, especially like your family is
your family, They're there no matter what. They're extremely important
to me. But I also believe a chosen family is
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extremely important and as well, who you surround yourself with,
who you associate with, who helps build you up is
extremely important. And I have not a lot of friends,
but the friends I do have definitely make up in
quality then so they've they've been with me through a
(49:57):
lot and they helped me through a lot. And even
friends that I've had when I was younger that we
don't talk every day, they feel like, hey, congratulations on
that book, Like that's amazing. I knew you would always
do that. So like, even though they're not there with
me every day, I can still fall back on them.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
And like I said, I give and give and give,
So it's important to me that you know, when I'm empty,
my friends are there to fill me back up.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
That's so good. That is so good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
I talk to my daughter often about just having quality friends,
and I think personally she just would rather be without
maybe if she can count on her hands type of thing,
only without dealing with people that she feels like they
don't have her best.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Interest at heart.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, especially if they have certain you know how people
have like bonds and things that you say, this is
our honor code and this is what we're going to do.
And then if one of you don't honor that, then
in her opinion, she's like, that cannot be my friend
because they don't have my best interests. Like what you said,
your friend would pull out an emotion will and say, Okay,
where are you today? Yeah, that's huge, that's a friend
(51:15):
for life. Yeah, they're looking at and saying, where are
you falling with your emotions on this Will? So I
can determine how I can help you or if I
need to get some outside intervention. Yeah, I love I
love your friends. I love them as much as I
love you already. Like, hey, friends, how y'all doing? Who
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inspires you from a creativity perspective and a spirituality perspective?
In the studio audience? Please put whoever it is. I
know for me, my mom inspires me. And a lot
of times when you say your mom is like, people say, oh,
you know, that's a generic answer. No, my mom is
one of the most compassionate people, full of grace, full
of mercy to every reap person. She encounters. I'm like,
(52:02):
that can't even be humanly possible, but it really is
with her. Once you meet my mom, she would actually
you be like, oh, I love her too. She'll get
your name, your address, your birth get you send your
birthday card. I'm like, oh my gosh, my mama is
something special. So she really does inspire me a lot.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah, She's a dream come true.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
All right, okay, studio audience comments, Let's do a flash
round some of the comments that's been coming in. We
want to acknowledge your comments and see if Trinity has
anything to say to some of you all that took
the time to type rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
I see you.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
You the hashtag rabbit hole. You did it, You did it,
she said. Mackenzie said, yes, I know. It messes me up.
It messes me up. I don't know what. What messed
you up? Mackenzie tell me, I don't remember. You probably
said that early on in the show. Let's see, mindset
is something that I'm very intentional about. Yeah, right now,
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my business, my rest, my man.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
What are you intentional about?
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Oh? Oh well, let me let me just let me
make sure I understand. She put three times, My man, man, my,
my man, my man, my man. She is very intentional
about who her man. If she ain't intentional about nothing else,
he definitely getting a lot of great love because she's
(53:27):
intentional about her man. All right, all right, let's see
other comments. Hi, I'm Mackensey and I have depression and
I take my meds every day.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Do you want to speak to that at all?
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I don't, so I can go like gratulate you. I
forget often to take my meds. And there's a huge difference,
and it helps me creativity, creativity wise, but throughout my
day to day it does. There's a difference. You can
(54:02):
see a difference. So I'm trying to get better with that. Yeah,
that's good, that's good.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah, little vulnerability, that's good. So again, you're being very
transparent and honest, and I love that because you can't
work from me, and he can't build on any foundation
unless the foundation starts.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
With truth and honesty. So thank you.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
My friend Tavia for sure, and Monique my boyfriend, and
my friend Alyssa inspire me as well. And you notice
one thing, she didn't even put her boyfriend's name.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
She's like, really want you.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
To know about my man called my man that's what
she called. She didn't even put a name audition for
everybody else's name Tavia, Monique, my boyfriend, and my friend Alyssa.
So she kept the boyfriend name, like, call him what
you want to call him, because he's.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
What my man?
Speaker 1 (54:59):
All right? You you having the show at three times
is very confusing. Oh, got me all messed up, Kim,
I know, but kids are so funny. She's like, we're
going live today. I said, we're going live today at seven.
We're going live at nine. But at the end of
the day at eleven am. Every weekday you'll be able
to see, like this episode, you'll be able to see
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it at eleven am tomorrow. So either way, you're gonna
always be able to catch the show at eleven am
for sure. All Right, let's see, let's see. Let's just
say always, because everything don't be always. Sometimes I might
change it and be permanently nine and seven. I don't know,
we'll see. But anyway, Trinity is so lovable. Oh, yes,
(55:41):
come through, lots of love pouring out over there.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
All right, let's see anything I had a question for you?
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yes, what how about let's not do that, Kim? Okay,
we can have a personal meeting. Mackenzie, thank you so
much for airing our dirty laundry on the show. We
appreciate you and your but we can have a team
meeting for that, all right. Uh, y'all don't even know
need to know his name. That's what she's back on
her boardman. This whole show is about Ashley and who
(56:09):
her between her and McKenzie. Okay, listen. You know how
people often say what would you tell your younger self? Now?
What I would like to do is reverse that and
ask you what would your younger self say to you today.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
I can't believe we made it to twenty five. Yeah.
I used to live my life one day at a
time interesting.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
And.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
I used to have like big plans and schedule out
my life each year. Was this goal, this goal, this goal,
And it was because like, my depression was really bad
when I was younger, and it was just like me,
if I keep these goals up, I'll live past eighteen,
maybe hopefully prayerfully. So the fact that I'm actually achieving
(57:12):
the goals I need just to wake up in the
morning and get out of there in the morning, It's like, Wow,
I can't believe you actually made it. And you're actually
doing it, and yeah, that would be They would probably
be amazed about that I'm actually achieving each goal.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
So yeah, wow, wow wow. Soil, your younger self would
be very proud of you today and would be honored
to be in your body as she grows up to
this level of life. So I'm so proud of you. Listen.
I saw I had some questions that I was going
to ask about your show concept, but I don't want
you to reveal those right now on purpose, because I
(57:53):
do a thing just so y'all know, and I teach
people how to start their own talk shows from scratch,
and so I'm encourage you if you have not registered
for our next group training. The next training is about
to pop off. We have new students getting ready to graduate,
and I encourage you to go ahead and send it.
You can send a text communication or you can also
(58:14):
email and find out how you can be one of
the five students, well maybe four, because maybe Trinity maybe
one of them, because she has a phenomenal show concept
and I would love to help her vet it out
and be able to launch her show. Right Okay, So anyway,
make sure you know that our group training is getting
ready to kick off, and you are welcome to be
(58:36):
one of the five students. We only take five and
it's for a reason because I have to customize the
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make sure you take advantage of that. And speaking of
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Any closing comments, what's next for you? And I want
to put this book up again to how people can
(59:41):
get a copy of Trinity Monette, a Poortry collection, So
tell people first how they can get the book.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
It's on Amazon if you just search up Trinity Monee
to pop up. It's also on Barnes and Nobles. I'm
also going to be doing a book signing event in
on November here in Charlotte at that Novels bookstore, So
that'll be November eighth.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Make sure you come back on the show. Will you'll
be back because you're gonna be one of the experts
and doing all kinds of stuff. So yeah, make sure
leading up to it that we announce that and have
a flyer and everything so we can put it up
to give people invitations to come.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Yeah. So yeah, that's how you can get the book.
And I am currently working on part two.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
So yeah, another one hundred and something. Girl, You're gonna
make me lose my mind.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I would have like four poems right now, but yeah,
I am working on a part two.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
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we were number three for the month of May thanks
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Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
So thank you off all that you do.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Yes, it's available on Amazon, so get your copy today.
Go get a copy of Trinity Monee, a poetry collection.
Any closing comment, Trinity, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
So much for having me. This has been amazing and
amazing experience.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Well, if you enjoyed this, I have plenty of top
show hosts that would love to host you and they
will be honored to do so. So it'll be my
pleasure to connect you. Of course I would love to
do it, Okay, and thank you all so much. Let
me make sure you miss anybody over on Instagram. I
see all of you all, and I just want to
say thank you, Ja, I see you Jays, You're Rod,
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I see you Spare the Rod, Dr Somerville. I see
all of you guys, and thank you all so much
for participating over there on Instagram as well. Life is
better because each of you all are a part of
my life, so I'm really grateful. Thank you for allowing
us to bring balance to the world, one household at
a time. Thank you Ackensey backstage, and thank you Trinity Monet.
Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
God bless you all, Love you.
Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
And have a great time.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Thank you for tuning in to today's episode of The
Kim Jacobs Show and for being in the Virtual studio audience.
Your presence truly does make a difference, and I look
forward to you bringing your friends and family to join
you in the Virtual Studio audience Monday through Friday at
eleven o'clock am Eastern Standard Time. I look forward to
seeing you make it a great day.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
M HM.
We have a great show lined up for you. I'm
your host, Kim Jacob's better known as the Balance Doctor,
and all of our guests that come on there either
people that have overcome some tremendous odds in their own
lives as they balance these things called life, or they're
experts and they're here to share tips and strategies that
will help you better balance and manage your life. Grab
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your virtual seats, and let's get ready for some real,
relevant and relatable content on today's episode of a Kim
Jacobs Show. Everyone, it is the Kim Jacobs Show where
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we're bringing balance to the world, one household at a time,
and today we're doing that with none other than Trinity Monette.
Hey Trinity, how are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm doing great? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm doing even better because you are here getting ready
to just help change lives and make lives better. I
personally believe God gives all of us gifts and talents
and he expects us to use them to salt the earth.
And when I met you, I was like, Oh, I
have to have her come on this show for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thank you, thank I'm truly honored.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Thank you, Thank you for saying yes I appreciate it
so much. What made you actually say yes? Because I'm
the one that ask you.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I wanted a way to promote my book, and this
is definitely outside of my comfort zone. And my move
here to Charlotte was me going is for me to
go out my comfort zone. So I was like, well,
God put me here, so they might as well do it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And do you believe in that that God puts you
in the right place at the right time, or do
you believe more in happenstance.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I am definitely believing more that God puts me in
the right place at the right time. Every day He's
showing me that he's doing it. He's in control.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But this is good. This is good. So everybody listen
as you all are grab in your different seats and things,
I want you to know that some of the content
that we talk about today maybe a little more intense,
So keep that in mind if you have any of
your young people watching.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I like to always just set.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The expectation that you know that is a real life
testimony here, and so I don't know how deep we'll go,
so I want to make sure that I'm courteous and
let you all know that because today we're talking about
the complexities of the human experience, the complexities and there's
so many different angles and spin offs to life's journey,
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and so our guest Trinity is going to almost like
take us on a roller coaster ride tonight and help
us or today, I should say, because this airs at
all different times depending upon where you are in the country.
Believe it or not, Kim Jacobs show now actually airs
in one hundred countries, so in some places this morning,
some night, some in the middle of the night. It's
all over the world places happening. But she's going to
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take us on a journey in her own personal way
this evening. So let me introduce her to you, and
definitely need my glasses for this, okay. So her background
is very unique, blending her professional experience and I'll let
her talk about her behavioral site background and how that's
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worked along with her career as a poet and an
aspiring trauma therapist. She's multifaceted in all different walks of
life and really heavily does a lot of her work
around her creativity, and we're going to learn more about
that as well. She's graduate twenty twenty one, graduate of
Claflin University, and her academic journey has also helped her
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creative pursuits. So it's a lot of different things that
she's been known for and become literally critically acclaimed in
my opinion of some work that she's done, and we'll
talk about those as well. So again, welcome here to
the show.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
All right, so let's just deep dive right into our
conversation and tell us just tell us a little bit
about your background, who you are, where you came from,
because you don't just become creative. You actually had something
that was brewing in you from early on.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So let's just talk about some of your backstory first.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, Ever, since I was young, I was always a writer.
At first, it was gospel songs. When I was younger,
I would try to write gospel songs. In middle school
and elementary school, it was stories, but that wasn't my niche.
It was really in college when I found my my niche,
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which was poetry. I decided I used to use poetry
as a way to cope. Actually I still do, and
I figured I wrote the book because I was like,
if I can cope with it, somebody else can be
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cope with it as well. It makes me feel less
alone and I can help others.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And so even though this was starting out as a
personal journey for you, it's actually something that you knew
would ultimately inspire other people. So you had to get
it out.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yes, definitely had to get it out.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And at what age do you say you realize that
this is bigger than me, This is way beyond just
Trinity Monette.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I think it was actually last year when it really
when people actually started reading. Because it used to be
just a small little book for myself. I never let
anybody look at it. But then I let my sister
read it. Actually, she was like, oh cool, I like
this this And she actually read the poem and had
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a different perspective than what I did, and I found
that really interesting and fascinating. And that's when I started
allowing other people to read more of my poems, and
a lot of other people had different perspectives than I
did or took something different from it, and I was
just like, Wow, different perspectives, different strokes for different folks.
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And I was like, maybe I should put it out
to the world.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yes, And I'm so glad you did, and just everybody
that's tuning in knows we're talking with Trinity Monet, and
she is the author of a poetry collection. All of
the illustrations that are in this material, the book that
she the publication, she's formally done something personal with that.
So how did all of the graphics come about? That's
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throughout your poetry collection.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
The graphics is brand new. It was a new concept
that I did about four months before I published. I
was I like doing a lot of creative things, like
I make stickers and I'm just learning how to make
T shirts and things like that. And I was dabbling
in acrylic art in watercolors. Interesting, yeah, And I started
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making canvases at first because one of my coworkers actually
was like, I want this poem right here on a
canvas on my wall. And I was like, I've never
thought of that. So I was like, I looked at
the poem and I was like, what do I think of?
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What picture comes to mind? I do that and I
made her the canvas and she loved it. And then
I was like, what if what other pictures can I
come up with and create with my other poems? That's
what I am. That's how I got there.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, I actually have one of them. I have the book.
I have the actual books, but I have this image here,
and I think that is so beautiful. The image is
absolutely beautiful, and it says it's one of your poems
called self love.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Do you mind if I read it for a second?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Go ahead, all right? It says I didn't love myself today.
My clothes felt too tight, too loose, too wrong. I
didn't love myself today. Looking in the mirror was too difficult,
too unnerving. I didn't love myself today. Beauty wasn't in
my vocabulary, where myself and ugly are synonyms. I didn't
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love myself today. Showering felt too much, eating too little.
I didn't love myself today, But I pray I do tomorrow.
M tell me about.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That that one I went to a poetry event and
a guy did a poem titled I didn't love myself Today,
and it moved me so much, and I was just like,
I have to do my own version of it, especially
because I do struggle with a major depressive disorder, so
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there's some days where I just don't love myself. So
I wrote that poem just to inspire hope into me
to like you. Know today was a good day, but
prayerfully another day will be better.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I think I really like the fact that we're talking
again about how people balance all different aspects of your life.
There are real people that I have coming here on
the show and regular ordinary type of everyday heroes that
are inspiring you through their work of art or through
their poetry collection. And to hear your heart about that,
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I think that just really motivated me even more because
you're not putting on a facade. You're saying some days,
I really struggle with this, and because I struggle with this,
I have to ask for grace for the next day.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I love that Trinity.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I was silent for so long because you know, in
the black community, mental health is not a thing. So
I was just like, you know what, I'm gonna be
true to myself, true to my struggles and seek help. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I want to know in the studio audience, because I
don't want us to have a show and we don't
have conversation surrounding this, how many of you are true
to yourself?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
How many of you are really.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Willing to say there are some things that I'm struggling
with and maybe there's something even in Trinity Monette's poetry
collection that can truly help you on your journey or
hearing her today, maybe have questions that you just need
her to answer because she's being authentically herself and sharing
from a place of transparency. So please don't let today's
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episode go by and you not.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Get your questions answered.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I would like for you to tell us to Trinity
about your journey from Claflin University to becoming a behavioral
psych technician, because you're very proud of that title.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah I am, believe it or not. I did not
want to be a therapist or work with mental health
in the beginning. When I first went to Claughlin, I
wanted to be a an FBI agent. I wanted to
do forensic therapy, I mean forensic interrogations, you know. I
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wanted to work with serial killers and find out how
why their brain ticks, you know. But I met this
one teacher and he was talking. He used to tell
us about all these all his stories about working with
veterans and working with children with schizophrenia or children with
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multi personality disorder, and it just fascinated me so much.
And then I was like, well, and then I started
taking more of his classes, more of his mental health
based classes, and I was like, this might be it
for me, Like this is so interesting and so amazing
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to me, but it is hard to get into mental health,
especially with a bachelor's degree. So I started with autism.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Okay, working with.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Children with autistic disabilities, and I love that. That was
so much fun, despite the tantrums and you know, bad days,
I absolutely loved it. But I knew that I wanted
to go back into mental health. Wanted to go back
into helping people struggle with I mean, deal with their
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everyday struggles like I have. So my friend actually helped
me find the job I was at. She was like, listen,
if you want to do this, let's let's start sitting
down finding jobs, applying to jobs. And I got into
the behavioral tech. I work at an awesome hospital and
I get to meet amazing people every single day that
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just are down on their luck one day, like one day,
like one guy he was an amazing person and had
all these big dreams but just had schizophrenia. And like
just talking with them and just talking and really relating
to them and helping them and then watching them leave
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through those doors never to return again. It's so inspirational,
so inspiring, and I just I love what I do.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
That is so I can feel it. I can feel
I'm actually typing what you're saying because I want to know,
have you ever felt anybody that's tuning in today, have
you ever felt down on your luck? And how did
you handle it? Because I think that how we handle
it can determine if what type of help we actually
need in my opinion, so I would love for anybody
that has any input on ever feeling like you've been
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down on your luck and what you personally did to
have a better outcome for yourself, and so just please
share it, because I think what you're doing right now
on this show is going to help so many people
because you're painting the picture of somebody having a great day,
then for whatever reason, something happened transpired and they're feeling
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down on their luck and that changes the trajectory of
their love. Yeah, so talk more, talk more. From that perspective,
What are some of the things that you've been able
to personally do in your role to help people feel
more like they have hope.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
The biggest thing is just sitting there and listening to them,
just talking about their struggles their everyday lives, how they
view the world, and not coming from a place of
judgment or you know, you're crazy. Here's some medication just
sitting there and listening and making them feel like a
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human again, because sometimes in the sec word, it's just like, oh,
they're not they're talking mess like just leave them alone.
But then it's just like, yeah, but they're they're stuck
in their brain. Yeah, seeing them out of that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, I'm glad you're saying. I'm really glad you're saying that,
because everyone wants to be heard. So I don't know
anybody in the world that does not appreciate somebody hearing
them out and listening to what it is that they
are dealing with, even if we think is a valid
issue or not. The point is they want to be heard.
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You know, I want to be heard. You want to
be heard. So given the same common courtesy that we
would want from someone else to from ourselves to that
person is something that can really make a difference in
their lives, you know. Yeah, And I was looking up
statistics here too. According to the National Institute of Health,
mental illness is very common in the United States and
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around the world. It's more estimated than more than one
in five US adults. That's me, you, Mackenzie's backstage. That's
three of us. And then just pick any of my
two kids. One of us have a mental health disorder
situation according to these statistics.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's fifty nine point three million people and that was
in twenty twenty two, so you know, it's twenty three
point one percent of the US adult population. And what
is a lot of times people don't even really know
what defines a mental illness is actually defined as mental
behavior or emotional disorder, and it can vary because a
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lot of times people think, oh, we all have mental issues,
but really, whenever we think about it, if it's serious
and you need some assistance with it, then it's considered
more of a serious mental illness, not just any mental illness.
They have two different categories, any and serious. Yeah, anyway,
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it's all I could read that for days. It's very intriguing,
And Ashley said that that's so pure Trinity, Honey. I
love that. Sometimes just listening is here. Yeah, can you
can you give us an example of because it's easy
when we say, oh, just listen to the person, But really,
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I think It's almost like an art and a skill
to be able to do that. What what are ways
that you listen to the person that's dealing with their
psychiatric situation.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, as a student in therapy, we're taught to actively listen,
ask questions, summarize what they're saying, nod your head, make
continuous eye contact, and just be engaged, present in the moments.
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Don't let your mind wander and allow allow yourself to
be fully in the moment with that client or with
that patient.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I love I love that being fully in the moment
with that client, absolutely, Ashley said. I am very honest
with myself and even when it's things, I'm so much
better because of it. Being transparent, even with our own
selves and how we how we come across to people,
how we handle people, is important for us to be
able to have some necessary self talk. It's like, Kim,
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you could have done that a lot better, you know goodness, well,
you were like just shed it already or whatever I
was feeling, and that's what was coming across on my continents.
But sometimes we don't know how we look because, as
Les Brown says, all the time we're in the picture frame,
so we don't see ourselves. Other people have to tell
us how we look. Yeah, yeah, call nine eight eight Yes,
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nine eight eight is the suicide prevention right for any
emergency dealing with mental health illness. You can even call anonymously,
but please make sure you do reach out because there's
help for you if you're dealing with some mental crisis
for sure. All right, So I'm I'm eager to know too,
what inspired you to merge your professional life and your
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creative passions, because there are two ends of a spectrum,
like behavior and poetry.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You would think they're two ends of the spectrum, but
they actually go hand in hand. I mean in a
lot of Let me see, there's this thing called art
therapy and I love it. Actually once I graduate, I
want to start a nonprofit with my best friend in
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art therapy. But there's also a thing called play therapy
and I love that too. And sometimes people can't express themselves.
They just don't have the words. I mean, like there
are some countries that don't even have a translation for
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the word depression. So you got to express yourself somehow.
And if you don't have the words, then maybe you
do have the pictures. I mean, we've been as humans
as society, we've been coloring and drawing and doing hieroglyphics
for the beginning of time. Yeah, so if you can't,
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I feel like, if you can't express yourself with words,
do it through pictures. So yeah, they go hand in hand, really,
and I have like, if you can't tell them, at
least you can show them. You know, mute people they
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draw pictures, they write, they you know, they find ways
to communicate.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And you and you wrote, you drew so many different
I'm trying to make sure. I don't know. I don't
have all I don't want to show all the images
because y'all.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Want to get the book.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But you drew so many different pictures. What made you
that particular picture with that poetry piece.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
For that one specifically the it's it was a sunflower
and I love I can't I'm not the best to
head it. I'm not going to say that, but I
love drawing sunflowers in any capacity. So I was like,
I have to draw a giant or a collection of sunflowers.
Other poems like why I write it's a phoenix? I
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just wow, there is I said in the line that
I want my readers to come back from their dark
places like a phoenix rising from the ashes.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yes, and that's under the one why. And first of all,
you guys, let me just put this put this image up.
This book is filled with one hundred and two poetry
pieces and they range from monster to sunflower, to growing
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up to bruises to inequality, to the missing piece, to
new beginnings to dirty fingernails, easter eggs, you name it.
Every aspect of how we balance our lives is in here,
and a piece of poetry for you to be able
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to read to your young young adult children, to you
to your children so that they can know how to
guard themselves.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
It's a lot of stuff in this.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Book that everybody probably should have in your library, I believe.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Thank you. Yeah, so I really picked on the main
point that I wanted the reader to to take hold of,
Like if there's nothing else, I want you to understand
this part right here, And I made a picture out
of that.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
So the main point of each of your poetry piece
is the main takeaway. You draw an image to reflect it. Yes,
and it is beautifully illustrated because exactly what you just
said is what happens. When I read one piece. I
look immediately to see well, what's the main point of that?
And then I know, Oh, it's the moon in the
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sun and you got to it's a I'm like, I
feel like I'm watching a lifetime reading the collection of
this poetry collection. Y'all. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, let
me stay focused, Let me stay focused. Do you have
like a pivotal moment that happened in your own life
that led you to become the voice? Because I really
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feel like you are a voice and a force to
be reckoned with when it comes to mental health of awareness.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Thank you. I won't well. Once I've read realized my
role in most of my relationships, I think that was
the pivotal moment because ever since I was young, I
was a go to person to talk to. Trinity has
the best advice. She may not have gone through it,
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but she knows how to help you through it. She's
your biggest advocator, Trinity. If you need something to help you,
she'll have the resources and if she can't, if she
doesn't have it, she'll figure it out and give it
to you. And I did it naturally. So once I
finally realized, hey, this is something I do naturally, why
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don't I just do it intentionally? Now? Yeah? So once
I started doing it intentionally and actually like putting my
all into helping others, it was just they became second nature.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So when you say intentionally, because a lot of times
people really don't know how to be intentional about making
something become a reality, what did you do to be
intentional versus I'm writing it is mine, I'm hugging it,
I'm loving it. I love what I've done, But nobody
else ever benefits from it except for by mistake. Your
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sister encourages you type of thing. At least that's what
we think. It's not by mistake. It was by God's
divine order that she finally said, this has to salt
the earth.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
It has to salt the earth.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, So what made you become intentional versus private?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
When I started writing less from my experience and more
from others' experiences, that's when I became more intentional. Like,
there are some poems in here that I don't connect
with because I wrote it from a place of my
friend struggle, or I wrote it from a place of
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you know, what I've seen, what I work with, what
I went through.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, I think I'm very empathetic and I'm able to
walk in other people's shoes very easily, so it inspires
me in my writing. That's when I became more intentional.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
That's really good, and I want to know from in
the studio audience too. What are some things that you're
being intentional about regarding your life? Are you intentional regarding
your career? Are you intentional regarding your health? Are you
intentional regarding how you handle your relationships? Your family members,
your loved ones, your spouse, your significant other, your life partner.
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What are you really intentional about that you're proud to say,
I've put really strong effort into this. I would love
for y'all to be able to share some things. And
so your poetry pieces is something you're intentional about? Anything
else that you want to share that you really feel like?
I'm intentional about this as well?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
My art. Even though I'm not the like I'm not
the I'm not going to say I'm the best writer
or I'm the best painter or anything.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You might as well claim it. Baby, you can get
an award, So stop stop putting it out in an
atmosphere that you're not because you look here I don't know.
I don't know a lot of people that have a
hundred pieces that talk from love, pain, mirroring, person personification,
pain avoidance, how you change your mind. I don't want
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to die, but I'm just tired of living. It's a
lot of different pieces any here, Yeah, lots.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah. So I'm very intentional about my art. I love
learning how to figure out different ways to express myself
and like, I like, I'm starting to make stickers now.
I have a lot of different stickers. Some of them
go with poems. So some of them are just you know,
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about mental health, some of them about LGBTQ, and just representation. Yeah,
different times.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I was actually I was talking. I talked about this
on Sunday, even though I was talking about Pentecost. Sunday
is what I was actually talking about. And how the
fact that on the day of Pentecost when we were
all I say week because I feel like now I'm
in the upper room myself. I felt like I had
an upper room experience at my church service by being
in the upper room and being on one accord, and
how all of us at that time allowed God to
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be able to have the Comforter be there for us
to be able to evangelize and help encourage other people
to come to learn about Christ. And one of the
things that I mentioned is, you cannot tell me that
we have the love of the Holy Spirit if we
don't show love to everybody, regardless of whether we like
them or don't like them, or like the behavior or
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I don't like the behavior. We should be an example
of God's love and grace and mercy to people so
that they can then learn more about Christ and what
the expectations are so we can get cleaned up in
whatever areas that we're all lacking, because we all have
some areas that we're lacking in.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I don't know, I got sidetracked that.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I am a big supporter of underrepresentation. So if there's
any way that I can, you know, help represent or
get that voice out there, get the word out there,
I'm going to do it. So, yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Big believer in God's word and honoring what the Word
of God says pertaining to all of our lives. And
there are things that I have in my life that
when you look in the Word of God, is not
pleasing to God. So it's just if you come on
that Sunday you're gonna hear that too, because that's not
necessarily something that's pleasing in the sight of God or whatever.
But I think, you know, a lot of times we're
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eager to just grab hold, as my grandma would say,
to things that we're good at, and then everybody else.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Is like, you're not good in that area? Well, what
who are we? You not got stop it?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, anyway, let me carry on, Okay, okay, okay, okay.
So I also wanted to find out I was thinking
I was. I was trying to think of like a
variety of things that you recently got an award.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That's what I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
For one of your poetry pieces, the rabbit Hole won
what place first? And you're not let me let me
put my glasses sideways. You said, not the best work.
What is a higher place than first place?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Tell me nothing?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So do you think that there might just be a
possibility that, according to this work and body, that the
rabbit Hole won first place?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah? I actually wasn't even going to enter the competition
when I did, because I had I was just new
to poetry, and I was like, I'm probably shouldn't do it,
and we just wait another year and then I'll do it.
But my teacher, my poetry teacher, was like, no, this
is amazing. Submitted and it was right before COVID happened.
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And then COVID happened, and I didn't even know I
won until like what a year later because our school
dispersed and what happened. And my teacher actually told me
in class like, hey, did you know that you won
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this award? And I was like what, Actually, the prize
money came before they told me. Yeah, that's how it happened.
The prize money came before they told me. And I
was just like, what is this? Why do I this? Yeah,
it was really weird.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
And then you got notified. Then I won first place
for your piece? How how did that emotionally charge you?
As far as were you motivated, excited, overwhelmed? What were you?
It was?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
It was unreal. It was like what me, Me won
first place? And you know, I'm in a class with
like twenty different amazing poets and I'm like, wow, I
want that in the poem. They were like it's so
deep and it's so this and they were like, oh,
how long did it take you to write? And I'm
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just like five minutes, like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, so something that took you five minutes has impacted
so many people and I don't know. I don't you
want to wait until people get the book for that one.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
No, that's fine, I can read it.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Okay, we'll read it because I want you to be
the one to read that because it's from your heart
and it won first place. So before you read it,
I want y'all to put in the comments that you know,
put put rabbit hole, hashtag rabbit hole. Somebody got to
do something. I'm not gonna just have her reading and
no way supported anything here. Let's see hashtag rabbit hole
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and we will see if we're gonna go ahead and
let her read this. Let's see. Let's see, let's see
hashtag rabbit hole. Y'all, let's put some rabbit hole. I
see you over on Instagram too as well, type hashtag
rabbit hole, and we're going to get her to read
that piece. While we're getting you to type it, I
will just go ahead and invite you to support the
(34:37):
Kim Jacob Show while I'm giving them a chance to
typ I want you to support the Kim Jacobs Show.
Make sure you go had to pull it up though
over there for real. Okay, give me you.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
A chance to pull it up too.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
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Speaker 2 (35:53):
Just as Alice, she fell into the allying hole, Just
as Alice she fell really fall. Just as Alice, things
flew past her, but not Alice things. No, these things
were evil mean. These pictures, these playing cards, these painted roses,
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these clocks, these monsters of mind were her foes, not friends.
They taunt and tease, bruise and scream, Unlike her. When
Alice came back, no time had passed, but with her
years went by. Each mirror showed age, each clock painted years,
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each passing day she grew. She grew crazy, scary, mad,
but thank god, we're all mad here.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Who you know what? That pinched my heart a little bit?
So what was the rationale behind this?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I'm a huge Lewis carlfan huge Alice in Wonderland fan,
and of course most of my poems are about mental health,
so I wanted to use the two in parallelism to
show how mental health affects a person and how that
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and to show like they're not They're there physically, but
mentally they're not there at all. And with this poem,
I see, like I was, I had people with schizophrenia,
multi personality disorder all those in mind when I wrote it,
(37:40):
and I wanted to show, like, yeah, I wanted to
show how mental health really can take away a person's years.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
My gosh, listen, when I saw this image, this is
the image that's in there. Yeah, and I am it
since chills over me to see this particular image associated
with this piece of work because what it reminds me of.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
And well, I'm not gonna yeah, I gotta be careful.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
It's a person. I'll just leave it at generic. And
I asked this person that was diagnosed with autism. I said, well,
you know what change, just like, all of a sudden,
You're like a whole different person.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I don't understand what happened before you were.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Like this, And now since you've been diagnosed with this,
you're like fitting into the mold of what all of
the statistics.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Say that comes along with that.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And the person said, that's because I was trying to
be what everyone else wanted me to be. Yeah, and
now I can be true to myself. I can just
be me and know that finally maybe somebody believes whatever
it is because there's an official diagnosis. I say that
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to say, there so many people that are masking their equations,
and your poetry will give people the freedom to unmask themselves.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah. I really wanted people to see like, you're not
alone in this, and it's okay to struggle, and it's
okay to not be okay.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, I feel better being I feel better being around you.
I literally just recently met you and I was like immediately,
I just happened to sit beside you at the event, right,
and I was like, who is this that I'm connected
with and hearing our conversation and I felt like I
just feel better because I'm beside her.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
So that's the impact that you have on people.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I've actually had a patient tell me that my aura
is calming and they like to be near me. Yeah,
for you to like and then I've had people say like,
I'm a big ray of sunshine. So to hear you
say that, it's like, oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Really settling it now.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
And accepting it. And then I think sometimes when you
start to accept more of your gifts and your talents
that God has really trusted you with, that maybe somebody
else is entrusted with that particular piece of the world responsibility.
It's like you have to use it or the whole
world misses out. Yeah, so it's like you're depriving all
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of us if you don't use your gifts.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
And your talents. Yeah, anyway, I don't like in church going.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Let me just be no, I love it. Yeah, so
this is this is just really helpful. I would like
for you Mackenzie backstage, she's backstage helping me, if you
would please pop some of the studio audience comments up.
I'd greatly appreciate it. And let's see what some of
the people are saying backstage.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I mean, I'm in the studio audience. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
And then in the meantime, too many of your poems
explore depression and anxiety and loneliness. Why was that so
important when you were writing on your pieces?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Well, I used to say not. I used to say,
I write sad pieces because not everyone knows what happiness is,
but everyone knows what sadness is.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Oh my gosh, that's so true.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah. So not everybody can experience happiness, but everybody knows
what pain is. Everybody knows what it feels like to
be lonely. Everybody knows what it feels like to be
down and down on your luck and everything. So I
wanted to come at a place of commonality wow, and
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I wanted to get on their level and then bring
them up.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I think this answer is one of my next questions
because I really wanted to understand the process as far
as does the poem come first or the emotion of
the poem associated with the company. But now I think
you just answer that does the actuacy?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
It depends. It really depends. Sometimes the poem comes first,
but usually it's like, if the poem comes first, it's
something that I was feeling that I didn't realize I
was feeling, So it just it brings it to light.
The poem brings it to light, and it's just like, oh,
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that's something I gotta work through. Let's pinpoint that emotion.
Or like my best friend she has if I tell
her I'm feeling sad today, she immediately brings out the
emotion wheel, which one are these feelings? You say you're
feeling sad? All right, let's go underneath it. Is it
really depression? Is it really loneliness? Is it really this?
(42:58):
Is it really that? And then we get down to
the basics, the basic six emotions, and that's how we
work through our mental health issues. So sometimes when the
poem comes first, I'm just like, okay, emotion wheel, this
poem sounds like anger, Okay, what's under anger? How am
(43:18):
I actually feeling? Wow? And then when the emotion comes first,
it's like I'm lost in a trance and it's just
the pen and paper, and it's like whatever comes out
comes out, and I'm unapologetic about it.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
So this is what you're saying is so important because
there are ways then that you would need to protect
your vulnerability when it comes to your own emotional wellbeing.
Because when I've been reading through this, this sucks you
in into that world of that particular or piece that
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you've written. So I'm immediately because I used to be
in young Author's conference and all kind of stuff when
I was a kid. So I love reading and Judy Bloom,
Billy Clear all people. I love it. So when I'm
reading this, I feel like I'm being taken into the
journey of that particular poetry piece that you're in some
(44:23):
and it's emotional, it's laughter, it's all every piece of
the emotion will is there. How do you protect your
own vulnerability and emotional wellbeing writing stuff?
Speaker 4 (44:34):
Like this, I I don't I allow myself to be
completely wrong when I'm writing.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I feel like that's the only way it's complete. Like
I have stuff in my archives and I'm just like,
that's not that's like the surface level. Right to go deeper,
we need to actually hash this out. We need to
me and the pen versus my brain and my depression,
(45:07):
Like we gotta we gotta get through it, right. And
so all my poems shows are a piece of me.
They're my children, they're my babies. Each poem you can read,
you find a part of me in them.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
That that was what I was wondering too, because I
heard you say some of these are stories from some
of your patients and some of your friends and different
people that you've encountered along the way. But you're saying
that a piece of each of these collective items also
is a part of you.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yes, Like I'll take a poem about anger or love.
I'll take a poem about love. Most of my love
poems are different perspectives, but I also put myself in
that person shoe, that person's shoe. How would I feel
watching this? Like the poem wanting is about wanting to
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be in love and it was like me watching a wedding.
So it's me seeing that love of that person, of
this couple, like this amazing, god fearing love and it's
just like, well, I want that. I've never experienced it,
but I want that. And that's me taking from their
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experiences but putting it in my perspective.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
You know, you're such a beautiful soul.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I don't know if this poetry make you feel that
way about a person, because it's beautiful soul. So yeah, inspiring.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Okay, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Okay, Now you've been through some things yourself, because I
know that you are interested heavily in trauma therapy as well,
and so what what do you want to share? Because
I don't want to steer you in any direction.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Pertaining to that.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
What do you want people to know and dealing with
trauma and if whatever personal piece you want to share
about your own journey.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Okay, So I want to do rape trauma. That's my
that's my niche. That's what I want to do my
dissertation on that's what I want to do of all
ages and genders and whatever. Growing up, a lot of
my friends have been through that and they would come
to me and be like, hey, like I don't know
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how to feel, help me, or they come to me
and be like I need a vent. Like I had
one friend who had came over because their assaulter was
their family member and they had a family gathering that
day and they just had to be in the same
space with their assault. So lost my train of thought.
(48:01):
So thought, Yeah, so just having those experiences, having that
vulnerability at such a young age was so I'm not
gonna say it's traumatizing, but it did leave a lasting impact.
(48:22):
Not going through it myself, but basically going through it
secondhand and healing with my friends friend all right, Yeah,
healing with my friends and helping them through that. It
definitely left an impact. And I was just like, God
definitely put me in that place for a reason, and
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I should keep going with that.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
That's so good. That's so good.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
You keep mentioning friends, and that is I think that
is almost like a universal theme that's happening throughout this conversation.
How how important are friends in your journey and maybe
even who's inspired you from a creativity perspective and a
spirituality perspective.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Any thoughts on that friends are extremely friends and family
are extremely important to me, especially like your family is
your family, They're there no matter what. They're extremely important
to me. But I also believe a chosen family is
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extremely important and as well, who you surround yourself with,
who you associate with, who helps build you up is
extremely important. And I have not a lot of friends,
but the friends I do have definitely make up in
quality then so they've they've been with me through a
(49:57):
lot and they helped me through a lot. And even
friends that I've had when I was younger that we
don't talk every day, they feel like, hey, congratulations on
that book, Like that's amazing. I knew you would always
do that. So like, even though they're not there with
me every day, I can still fall back on them.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
And like I said, I give and give and give,
So it's important to me that you know, when I'm empty,
my friends are there to fill me back up.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
That's so good. That is so good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
I talk to my daughter often about just having quality friends,
and I think personally she just would rather be without
maybe if she can count on her hands type of thing,
only without dealing with people that she feels like they
don't have her best.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Interest at heart.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, especially if they have certain you know how people
have like bonds and things that you say, this is
our honor code and this is what we're going to do.
And then if one of you don't honor that, then
in her opinion, she's like, that cannot be my friend
because they don't have my best interests. Like what you said,
your friend would pull out an emotion will and say, Okay,
where are you today? Yeah, that's huge, that's a friend
(51:15):
for life. Yeah, they're looking at and saying, where are
you falling with your emotions on this Will? So I
can determine how I can help you or if I
need to get some outside intervention. Yeah, I love I
love your friends. I love them as much as I
love you already. Like, hey, friends, how y'all doing? Who
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inspires you from a creativity perspective and a spirituality perspective?
In the studio audience? Please put whoever it is. I
know for me, my mom inspires me. And a lot
of times when you say your mom is like, people say, oh,
you know, that's a generic answer. No, my mom is
one of the most compassionate people, full of grace, full
of mercy to every reap person. She encounters. I'm like,
(52:02):
that can't even be humanly possible, but it really is
with her. Once you meet my mom, she would actually
you be like, oh, I love her too. She'll get
your name, your address, your birth get you send your
birthday card. I'm like, oh my gosh, my mama is
something special. So she really does inspire me a lot.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah, She's a dream come true.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
All right, okay, studio audience comments, Let's do a flash
round some of the comments that's been coming in. We
want to acknowledge your comments and see if Trinity has
anything to say to some of you all that took
the time to type rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
I see you.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
You the hashtag rabbit hole. You did it, You did it,
she said. Mackenzie said, yes, I know. It messes me up.
It messes me up. I don't know what. What messed
you up? Mackenzie tell me, I don't remember. You probably
said that early on in the show. Let's see, mindset
is something that I'm very intentional about. Yeah, right now,
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my business, my rest, my man.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
What are you intentional about?
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Oh? Oh well, let me let me just let me
make sure I understand. She put three times, My man, man, my,
my man, my man, my man. She is very intentional
about who her man. If she ain't intentional about nothing else,
he definitely getting a lot of great love because she's
(53:27):
intentional about her man. All right, all right, let's see
other comments. Hi, I'm Mackensey and I have depression and
I take my meds every day.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Do you want to speak to that at all?
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I don't, so I can go like gratulate you. I
forget often to take my meds. And there's a huge difference,
and it helps me creativity, creativity wise, but throughout my
day to day it does. There's a difference. You can
(54:02):
see a difference. So I'm trying to get better with that. Yeah,
that's good, that's good.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah, little vulnerability, that's good. So again, you're being very
transparent and honest, and I love that because you can't
work from me, and he can't build on any foundation
unless the foundation starts.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
With truth and honesty. So thank you.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
My friend Tavia for sure, and Monique my boyfriend, and
my friend Alyssa inspire me as well. And you notice
one thing, she didn't even put her boyfriend's name.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
She's like, really want you.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
To know about my man called my man that's what
she called. She didn't even put a name audition for
everybody else's name Tavia, Monique, my boyfriend, and my friend Alyssa.
So she kept the boyfriend name, like, call him what
you want to call him, because he's.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
What my man?
Speaker 1 (54:59):
All right? You you having the show at three times
is very confusing. Oh, got me all messed up, Kim,
I know, but kids are so funny. She's like, we're
going live today. I said, we're going live today at seven.
We're going live at nine. But at the end of
the day at eleven am. Every weekday you'll be able
to see, like this episode, you'll be able to see
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it at eleven am tomorrow. So either way, you're gonna
always be able to catch the show at eleven am
for sure. All Right, let's see, let's see. Let's just
say always, because everything don't be always. Sometimes I might
change it and be permanently nine and seven. I don't know,
we'll see. But anyway, Trinity is so lovable. Oh, yes,
(55:41):
come through, lots of love pouring out over there.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
All right, let's see anything I had a question for you?
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yes, what how about let's not do that, Kim? Okay,
we can have a personal meeting. Mackenzie, thank you so
much for airing our dirty laundry on the show. We
appreciate you and your but we can have a team
meeting for that, all right. Uh, y'all don't even know
need to know his name. That's what she's back on
her boardman. This whole show is about Ashley and who
(56:09):
her between her and McKenzie. Okay, listen. You know how
people often say what would you tell your younger self? Now?
What I would like to do is reverse that and
ask you what would your younger self say to you today.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
I can't believe we made it to twenty five. Yeah.
I used to live my life one day at a
time interesting.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
And.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
I used to have like big plans and schedule out
my life each year. Was this goal, this goal, this goal,
And it was because like, my depression was really bad
when I was younger, and it was just like me,
if I keep these goals up, I'll live past eighteen,
maybe hopefully prayerfully. So the fact that I'm actually achieving
(57:12):
the goals I need just to wake up in the
morning and get out of there in the morning, It's like, Wow,
I can't believe you actually made it. And you're actually
doing it, and yeah, that would be They would probably
be amazed about that I'm actually achieving each goal.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
So yeah, wow, wow wow. Soil, your younger self would
be very proud of you today and would be honored
to be in your body as she grows up to
this level of life. So I'm so proud of you. Listen.
I saw I had some questions that I was going
to ask about your show concept, but I don't want
you to reveal those right now on purpose, because I
(57:53):
do a thing just so y'all know, and I teach
people how to start their own talk shows from scratch,
and so I'm encourage you if you have not registered
for our next group training. The next training is about
to pop off. We have new students getting ready to graduate,
and I encourage you to go ahead and send it.
You can send a text communication or you can also
(58:14):
email and find out how you can be one of
the five students, well maybe four, because maybe Trinity maybe
one of them, because she has a phenomenal show concept
and I would love to help her vet it out
and be able to launch her show. Right Okay, So anyway,
make sure you know that our group training is getting
ready to kick off, and you are welcome to be
(58:36):
one of the five students. We only take five and
it's for a reason because I have to customize the
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Any closing comments, what's next for you? And I want
to put this book up again to how people can
(59:41):
get a copy of Trinity Monette, a Poortry collection, So
tell people first how they can get the book.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
It's on Amazon if you just search up Trinity Monee
to pop up. It's also on Barnes and Nobles. I'm
also going to be doing a book signing event in
on November here in Charlotte at that Novels bookstore, So
that'll be November eighth.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Make sure you come back on the show. Will you'll
be back because you're gonna be one of the experts
and doing all kinds of stuff. So yeah, make sure
leading up to it that we announce that and have
a flyer and everything so we can put it up
to give people invitations to come.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Yeah. So yeah, that's how you can get the book.
And I am currently working on part two.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
So yeah, another one hundred and something. Girl, You're gonna
make me lose my mind.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I would have like four poems right now, but yeah,
I am working on a part two.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
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(01:01:31):
we were number three for the month of May thanks
to your support in the community.
Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
So thank you off all that you do.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Yes, it's available on Amazon, so get your copy today.
Go get a copy of Trinity Monee, a poetry collection.
Any closing comment, Trinity, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
So much for having me. This has been amazing and
amazing experience.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Well, if you enjoyed this, I have plenty of top
show hosts that would love to host you and they
will be honored to do so. So it'll be my
pleasure to connect you. Of course I would love to
do it, Okay, and thank you all so much. Let
me make sure you miss anybody over on Instagram. I
see all of you all, and I just want to
say thank you, Ja, I see you Jays, You're Rod,
(01:02:16):
I see you Spare the Rod, Dr Somerville. I see
all of you guys, and thank you all so much
for participating over there on Instagram as well. Life is
better because each of you all are a part of
my life, so I'm really grateful. Thank you for allowing
us to bring balance to the world, one household at
a time. Thank you Ackensey backstage, and thank you Trinity Monet.
Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
God bless you all, Love you.
Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
And have a great time.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Thank you for tuning in to today's episode of The
Kim Jacobs Show and for being in the Virtual studio audience.
Your presence truly does make a difference, and I look
forward to you bringing your friends and family to join
you in the Virtual Studio audience Monday through Friday at
eleven o'clock am Eastern Standard Time. I look forward to
seeing you make it a great day.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
M HM.
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