TRANSFORM YOUR BRAIN WITH NEUROFEEDBACK

Join us on Thursday, April 3, 2025, at 11 AM EST for an inspiring episode of The Kim Jacobs Show featuring Dr. Candace Holmes—Founder, CEO, Natural Brain Transformation Specialist, and Certified BrainCore Practitioner!
Dr. Holmes is a Transformative Wellness expert with nearly three decades of experience as a chiropractor, author, and speaker. Her passion for neurofeedback therapy began when she witnessed its life-changing impact on her daughter’s ADHD journey—leading to academic success on the President’s and Dean’s Lists!
Now, as a leader in mental wellness, Dr. Holmes is on a mission to share the transformative power of neurofeedback therapy with the world. Tune in to hear her powerful story and learn how this cutting-edge approach is helping countless individuals thrive!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Listen, we have a great show lined up for you.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
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and all of our guests that come on there either
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experts and they're here to share tips and strategies that
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Grab your virtual seats and let's get ready for some real,
relevant and relatable content on today's episode of The Kim
Jacobs Show.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
That Jacob.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hello, everyone, and welcome to this episode of The Kim
Jacob Show where we are bringing balance to the world,
one household at a time. And guess who we're doing
it with today. We're doing it with none other than
doctor Candace Holmes. How are you, doctor Candace.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm doing very well. Thank you for having me, Thank.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
You for being here, and you were such already aj
just having you a calming presence in the back in
the backstage room. So thank you so much for bringing
the value that you bring to the world and everyone.
As you're grabbing your virtual seats, I want you to
know that you're in.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
For a treat.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
To learn something that may literally push you a little
bit out of your comfort zone and the way you
currently think about things. But after today, you may really
see the benefit of neuro feedback therapy. So we're going
to be deep diving into that today. And if you
have any questions yourselves, make sure that you go ahead

(01:34):
and type them in the comment section. We will do
flash rounds, or we'll pull your questions and your comments
up and maybe, just maybe the answers are already right
here in the room with doctor Candace being able to
answer some of those for you. Okay, all right, when
where will you if you wouldn't mind in a nutshell,
doctor Candace and like maybe thirty seconds or less, tell

(01:56):
people what we can expect from today's episode with you
being our guest.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Absolutely most people have heard of neuro feedback therapy, and
I'm just here to bring awareness to this drug free,
non invasive, long lasting therapy that helps with mental health challenges.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's there.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
You have it everybody, because it's non invasive and drug free.
A lot of thoughts that surround that, and some people
are forward, some people are heavily against it. So we're
not here from a controversial perspective, just to educate you
on what's worked for her personal journey and her personal backstory. So,
doctor Candice Holmes is actually a founder, CEO, Natural Brain

(02:37):
Transformation Specialist, certified brain Core practitioner, author and speaker. She
is a transformative wellness coach as well as being a
chiropractor with almost three decades of experience. So her journey
into neuro feedback therapy begin with a very personal incident,

(02:58):
and I'm not going to read that because then it
takes away from her backstory, and I will let her
talk more about her family and different components of her
life that brought her to this place where she is today.
So I am so grateful to have you, doctor Candice
Homes right here on the Kim Jacobs Show.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Thank you again. I'm grateful to be here. Well, let's talk,
thank you, thank you on my journey. Us go ahead talking.
You can go ahead and start, so talk. I have
two I have two daughters.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
My eldest daughter was diagnosed with ADHD when she was seven.
Herd their dad, and I had already been divorced for
three years when she was diagnosed, and I was honestly,
I was in denial. I'm thinking that one of my
family has that, So what are you talking about? Even
my storty sister is the one who diagnosed her, And
I was still like, no, it's not that, it's.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Not that misdiagnosed in this sweetie, thank you for being
a friend.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
But now she've overard the sounds right exactly.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
And she completed about twelve or fifteen sessions with her
And even after that, she asked me if I would
put her on medication.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
No.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
No, As a character, we try to avoid medications as
often as possible. I've heard some people say, I know
you don't believe in medications. Oh, it's not about belief.
We know they exist.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's just the goal of keeping it out of our bodies.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And so I definitely didn't want to have her start
taking medications to dim her life.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yes, it's beautiful, like, oh my gosh, her.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Life is so bright. The Holy Spirit in her is
so powerful that she you know, some people don't understand
what to do with it.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I have to. When she was in college, I'm glad
you said it that way.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
That way, I said, I said, I said, you're your
your holy spirit is so bright, I said, and you've
been protected by God, that most people don't understand what
that looks like. I said, so that's that's the that's
what they asked me that question. So they just don't
they don't get it. They don't get it, and it's okay,
it's not for everybody to get So then time went
on and then I came to like, I asked everyone
in my family if you know anyone had ADHD No.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, no, no, no. And then it occurred hurts me
that my.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Parents, my my daughters have a father, so they have
his genes too. So I contacted his cousin and she said, well, yeah, yeah,
that's it's a great possibility that's on our side of family.
So unfortunately, I was disciplining my daughter when things weren't
going well because I'm like you, I'm a Catholic, cafeteria Catholic,
and you know that's how I was weird.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's like, you didn't you don't do right?

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Then you know you have a consequence. And that was
a consequence.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
And I later came to find out that this is
not something she could help. So it wasn't until she
was about well, she was struggling in school so much.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I didn't think she go to college. And I understand
it's not for everyone.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
However, my family, you know, her dad and I were
both college graduates, and my parents have college graduate It's
not if you're going, it's where you're going. And I
had to have a come to Jesus moment, like, Okay,
maybe maybe she's not Maybe she's not going to go.
She was black and focus and attention. It was taking
her five hours and not to do homework. She was
socially awkward, she was getting bullied in school, emotionally bully.
No one was sit with her at lunchtime. It was
it was a struggle. It was a struggle. And I'm

(05:51):
set up with her till midnight every night trying to
help with homework because she just wasn't getting it. And
then when she was around thirteen is when I found
out about ner feedback. I was going through on my
character magazines and it said drug free therapy, not invasive
results can last up for thirty years.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
And I'm like, what what what? What is that?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Until I called and found out about brain Corps and
it's found o about one of my former chiropractic professors,
and he was kind of composition for his nephew who
had had autism or Osburger that at that time exact,
it's different now. And you know how you're in school
and you have classmates who are just so brilliant they
could teach you the lesson better than.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
The professor or the teacher. Here he is, you.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Know, I'm like, okay, wait then if he found it,
this has to be something to it.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
It must work.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
And so I invested in the system, you know, started
working with my daughter in a program, and she went
from struggling in school to earning aids and honors chemistry
and physics. From lacking focus and attention to me and
the most focused in class, and her teacher.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Said that she keeps her peers on tasks. I was like, whoa.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
And then off from five hours to night to doing
homework to two and a half to three, and then
from the socially awkward part to have no friends having
tons of friends. You try to step team and softball
team and made those and I'm just like, whoa.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I'm divorced. And my mother in law me one.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Day she said she's just blossomed in herself and she so, yes,
she has, thank you God, thank you.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
No feedback because no feedback is the only thing that changed.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
And then I got to think of how many other
people don't even know this exists, you know, And I'm
just trying to look for another option to not have
to put drugs into their their bodies or they're not
their children's bodies. And that's that's how I neuro feedback
I added to my practice.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, so let's let's go back for a second, because
the neural feedback is it a way to describe what
that is, so that a visual should I even pull
maybe look up just a generic image or something, but
talk about what neural feedbacks is.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Everybody sure? So neuro feedback is a learning modality. It's
a sophisticated form of vile feedback. So essentially, think of
let's say a bowling alley, and we have as we're
sitting here, our brain waves are emitting.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
They're just they're just out there.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
There are certain ranges where your brain waves are functioning well,
and outside of the range is typically where you have
those symptoms.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
So I can boil it.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
It's like putting up bumpers so that your brain waves
are contained within the bumpers, and then neuro feedback works
to get them straight, so that your brain functions well
and you're no longer have those symptoms because you're within
that range of efficiency.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
And all you have to do is watch it. It's
so easy.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
You're just watching a movie or a television show and
you're connected to a laptop just like we are here.
And when your brain you're watching something on a streaming device,
and when your brain is in the frequency that we're
trying to help you see what you're watching out your
regularly would and you hear it well. When the brain
starts falling into what we call dysfunctional pattern, then the
screen will fade and the bolume goes down, and that's
operate conditioning. So a positive negative reinforcement, so the negative

(08:41):
doesn't hurt. The positive is just make sure that you're
seeing what you're watching nice and Bradley and hearing your well,
and you don't have to sit there and concentrate. That's
one of the things I love about It's easy. If
it weren't easy, my daughter wouldn't have done it. She
would get upset with me when we were watching she
was watching a movie and her movie wasn't over thirty minutes. No, Mommy,
don't want to keep going. I said, no, sweetie, we
have to stop. Your brain has to changing exactly. It's

(09:01):
like you don't work out all day and you work,
you work your brain. It's exercise for your brain. You
work out for thirty minutes while watching a screen, and
then after that time you have to rest your brain
so it can that's the neuroplasticity part of it. The
brain knows how to learn things differently. And then you
can go back and do another session after about four hours.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
But it's very easy.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
So you take a break for about four hours and
then you go back and you can do another session
after the brain is resting. Is this a good image
that to show in your opinion to kind of give an.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Idea, Yeah, it can, sure, Yes, it's the brain mapping.
Is what you're seeing in the top left corner with
the looks like the wires coming out of the head,
But it's actually a cap that you wear and that's when.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
We record the brain waves to see where you are.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
It's like a baseline for the therapy because we don't
know if you're frued if we don't have a baseline.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
So that's the baseline. Okay, well I know this is
and then this is a great image right here.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
We have a cap questions on it and the brainways recorded.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
I think there's a delay, so thank you, thank you.
That's my book that came out last year.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
So is there it might be a slight delay in
our connection, right yes, okay, So transform your brain with
neuro feedback and this is your your latest work and
in this book which all of you all can get
a copy of it. How do people get a copy
of the book, doctor Candas.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Sure they can go to my website, brain core of
dluth dot com.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Core like an Apple.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
So brain core of dluth d U l U t
h D isn't dog u l u t h dot com.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Okay, And I'm gonna put that website up again, that is.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
And that is braincore dot com.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
When we take this commercial break, doctor Candas, if you'll
go out and come right back in. I think there's
just a little delay, So we'll take a commercial break,
and when we do, we're gonna come right back. And
when we hear from doctor Candace some more. One of
the questions I have for you is how important was
your ADHD journey with your daughter into shaping your overall

(11:17):
approach to dealing with brain health and wellness because it
became a passion of yours at a whole different level,
and now it's something that you really specialize in. So
I wanted you to really help us connect those dots
when we come right back. If you go out and
come right back in. Okay, We're going to take a
commercial break, everyone, and when we return, we're going to
talk more with doctor Candace Homes about neuro feedback.

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We'll be right back. Hi.

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(14:01):
Ben you, so, doctor Canvas, talk to us and tell
us how critically important I was for your daughter's diagnosis
to kind of catapult you almost into part of your destiny.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
My daughter used to apologize for having ADHD because, yeah,
I was a single parent, and you know, her younger
sister is gifted that accelerate, so I'm thankful for that.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's just an all the time job.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
It doesn't end like I remember their dad came in
town one weekend and my oldest had a project to complete,
and I purchased everything that was needed for the project,
and I was so happy to just.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Give it away to him to take a picture off me.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
And when we met up after the weekend was over,
you know, the project had been completed, and he called
me the next day.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
He said, oh my gosh, I didn't realize how much.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Work it takes.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
You have to redirect her and explain it five times,
and come back redirect her again and explain it another
ten times. I said, every day in my life, every
day in my life, when you come home, your day
is over. When I come home, my second job begins,
and it doesn't until midnight, you know. So you know,
it's it's like people don't understand unless they're ended. Even
my my sorority sister, we had the opportunity to vacation
together with her husband and daughter, and you know the

(15:11):
you know, the three girls you know in the arena
doing you know, the sleepover, you know thing, giggling everything else,
and the adults are in the in the living room.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
And they asked each ask me, well, how how do
you like?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
How do you do it?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
And I'm just like, you're you're the side of course,
you know. But I realized when she goes home, she
doesn't have that experience, like her day is done, Like
she gets to rest for however many hours after that,
I didn't get that rest.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
I didn't get that rest.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
So that's how it totally transformed just our whole family.
Because you changed the life of one person in the family,
it affects everybody else. My youngest daughter told me, you know,
when when neure feed but was you know, when my
daughter was just mother daughter was just starting herrow feedback,
probably you know, a few weeks in a month or so.
She said, Oh my gosh, Mommy, you don't yell at
her like you used to.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
So it helped you too, because you were learning it.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
And I was, and I was frustrated. And now I
wasn't frustrated because I didn't have to help her with
homework as much, and she was she was understanding, and
just the confidence that she had. She used to not
really liked school because we would like spooping, not doing
well in it. You know, I love school, and so
it was hard for me to see why she didn't
like it. And then I like, like even today, I
look back at pictures and I could just look at
her face and poor heart didn't really understand what was

(16:20):
going on, Like she wasn't getting it, you know. And
so that was the that was the turning point, just
to see you know, beginning to end, just like her
baseline brain mapping, and then we did the training sessions
in between, and then there's another pour of brain mappings afterwards,
and just to see her progress like from one to
the other objectively, I was like, oh my gosh, like
this is why she was struggling. You know, it's right

(16:40):
here in black and white. So the brain mapping is
a functional assessment. It's not a diagnostic tool. So when
I get it, I can't say, hey, you have ADHD,
you have autism, you have you know, anxiety depression. I
can say, based upon this, this is where your brain
is having some challenges and this is where it's functioning well.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
So we're let's address those challenges. That's good.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
And so what advice would you give because there are
a lot of parents watching this and we'll watch it
as well that are doing exactly what was the go
to method for you as a parent, which is, Oh,
you're gonna get this together because you're not you're not
gonna misrepresent me. Doctor can Oh, you're not misrepresented me.
I don't know what we have going on, but we're
gonna get this thing in check.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
We wanna handle it. We want to handle it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
So a lot of parents feel like if they chastise
and discipline and it's going to course correct the situation.
But in this case, and in many cases, it's just misdiagnosed.
So what advice would you give people that are misdiagnosing
and mishandling their children in different regard.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
The first thing I would do is to give yourself grace.
We have a lot, you know, we tend to have
a lot of parent guilt when we figure out things
aren't as we thought, because times are different from when
we grew up. Secondly, if there's when there's a diagnos
and when there's something that seems to be a bit
you know, different from the traditional, then look into it.

(17:56):
You know, just don't don't put your head in the sand.
You know, I'd rather be proactive than reactive. I mean
from the time she was diagnosed at seven or thirteen,
and that's I mean, honestly, from she was born.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Thirty I was thirty six weeks in five days.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
So if she wasn't hitting those milestones early, I had
to hold her back in kindergarten.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
You know, a speech therapy.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Physical therapy, all those things you.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Know that played a part that you know, the doctors
told me or she would be a little delayed, and
I just I was like, Okay, sure she'll catch up,
she'll catch up, and it just wasn't happening. And so
my advice is to find some kind of method that
is effective. I personally stay away from medications.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
I mean, the only thing.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Typically they serve a purpose, they serve a purpose, but
typically they're just a band aid.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
They don't get to the root of the issue.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
And so that's what I love about neuro feedback because
the objective, scientific way to get to the root of
the issue and make those changes when those changes come
last And I just tell people, like you learn how
to ride a bike back when you were five years
old something six seven, you know, everybody varies with the
age you could ride a bike now, like I could
write a bike now, my center gravity is change. I
may have a little more weight to my to my frame,
but in the my brain knows how to ride a bike.

(19:02):
It knows how to ride a bike. So that's what
I'm talking about. How they can last up to thirty
you know, and in some cases fifty years.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's what I mean with that. It's borring and the
unforeseen circumstance.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
If you have a traumatic brain injury or concussion, then
you know that's that's not going to be the case
for you because now your brain has changed. But that's
that's what I would just suggest, just to be proactive
and just to try and see what works for you
and your family. Not everything works for everybody, or feedback
isn't for everybody. I think it is. You know, it
may not be your cup of tea. I just know
that from my experience and what I've had. It just

(19:32):
it was such a transformational piece of our lives that
are added to my practice. Most people say, oh, you're
a chiropractor. How are you working with the brain? Well,
most people think chiropractors work with the spine. Well, no,
it's actually the nervous system. The spinal cord just happens
to be surrounded by bones, and we move that to
release the energy to make sure that your nervous system
is functioning well. And what's the main part of the
nervous system. It's the brain and the spinal cord. Right, Well,

(19:53):
let's affect the brain. The brain controls everything. So let's
go directly to the source and and go and foll
from there.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
So so I know you have your own success story
with your daughter.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Are there some people that like because, like you said,
you're a.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Chiropractice, So when we were coming to you, they're thinking
they're coming to get adjustments and different things, but alignments
or whatever the point is you're actually offering them something
that they never even necessarily even thought when.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
They were now correct and chiropractic is fifteen percent of
my practice now it has been for almost a decade now.
Nor feedback is eighty five percent of my practice.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
That's right, right. So the the autism, So let's take
autism for example.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
I've had so lots of times autistic people on the
spectrum have a stemming. Stemming occurs when they're overloaded with
typically you know, anxious thoughts. And so I just want
a particular young man who had about hiss stems or
hand flapping, and he had those about twenty times a day.
After working with me in my program, he went to
one to two a month. Now, this young gentleman was nonverbal,

(20:59):
and so he communicated that on his letter board and
it just brought tears to my eyes, and I call
my guy.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's like, you know, it's just just.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
One symptom, one one you know, uh way to change
your life that can just because I just can't imagine,
just like people have migraine headaches every day, I'm like,
I have a little slight headache and I'm not a
nice person.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I'm not nice I just know it.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
And you have a migraine every day and that's your
normal and that's not that's not okay. Like I had
a patient who had migraines and she came into me.
She had him ever since her dad passed away. And
I asked her, this is when I was just doing
the therapy in my office because now I have a
national practice, so you can do that at home. And
I said, have the migraine so oh those went away?

(21:40):
When like if you don't tell me, like, yeah, can
gonna tell me? Like I didn't know that, and she said, oh,
that's not what I noticed.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
She said.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
What I love the most is that I didn't realize
she was in class, she was taking classes, and she said,
now she can answer the questions directly after reading. She
didn't have to go back and say what was it
that I read? And what are you trying to ask me?
And now she's able to pleae her homework faster, which
helped her to help her sons with their homework or
even just have family time, you know. And I was like,
and I call that a positive side effect, you know,

(22:10):
like you have other things that of course, like you said,
course correct or improved that you didn't even think about.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Wow, and so these are great like testimonials, and you're like,
please tell me when the head X go away so
that I can add that to my practice results. Now,
there are a lot of misconceptions, doctor Candace about even
dealing with neual feedback, because I know I have children
that have diagnoses that I'm hearing some of what you're saying,

(22:37):
and I've actually been told about neurofeedback therapy before, but
I was like, what, no, no, no, You're trying to
get into their brain. That's not like some off of
the movie what is that seventeen? Some of them movies
out there that you ready to get started, pupil cat
my skull. So talk about some of the misconceptions.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Well, first of.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
All, I'm not connecting you or your child to a
car battery and and seeing what happens.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay, I'm not. I'm not doing that. We're not We're
not shocking.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
And I understand that you know it can be effective
in some cases, That's not what I want to do
with my own child. Let me tell you this, I
wouldn't do with you or your child what I wouldn't
do with my own. So I wasn't going to shock her,
So it's that's the non invasive part. And I also
don't inject any kind of substance into their bloodstream, so
that's that's the also non invasive. So most people when

(23:24):
they think of a brain, they think of, you know,
the pretty colors and the videos and everything with the
brain that's over a million dollar piece of equipment that
I don't own at this time, So that's not so
that's not that's not what this is. And I think
those are the main misconceptions that it's going to be,
that it's going to hurt, that there are side effects.
I've had no side effects with the patients that have

(23:47):
been under my care. Someone told me some others that
they heard and it wasn't even with the systems that
that I'm familiar with. Someone had a slight headache, that's
and that wasn't even my patient. So compared to medication,
there's a seventy five percent effective in the population. You know,
drugs can't even give you that kind of percentage, So
why not try something that's that's drug free and effective

(24:10):
and has percentages that are better than what we've been
trained to think is the only way to.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Go, that's real.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
That's really a great comment because I was thinking, how
does neuro feedback compare to the traditional treatments of ADHD,
anxiety and other brain related challenges, But you just were
saying that the success rate is higher comparatively speaking.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
And what I love. I love when people come to
my office and narrow medication. One of my biggest concerns
is to make sure that they're trying to get off
the medication, because that's my goal. I would love for
your brain to work well and get you off the medication.
So when they are on medications, they don't have to
stop taking them. That's another misconception. You don't have to
stop taking them when you're doing the therapy. Your brain
will tell you when it's time, so you'll start experiencing
the side effects worse when your brain is changing, which

(24:53):
is lovely. So then I could say, hey, go back
to the doctor that puts you on the drug and say, hey,
you know I'm experienced any side effects worse, we please.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Decrease my dosage.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
So the goal to decrease, decrease, decrease, gone.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
So honored to that process, absolutely absolutely, and I give
them a list of all the side effects.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
My goodness is at least three pages of side effects
that I typically print out for people when we go over.
They report and they some of them don't even know
what they are. They just they just blindly accept what's offered.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
And you know, no, no disrespect to the medical doctors.
That's how they are taught, that's how they're just doing
what they're talking.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Everybody's practicing their craft and whatever their gifting is. And
it's not nothing that we're saying here is to slight
anything that anyone else is doing.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Do what works best for you.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
But the thing that I the thing that I like
your practice is it is it something that nationally people
can participate even absolutely.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Have a national practice correct, So you don't have to
live in the state of Georgia to benefit from that.
I have equipment that I ship out and I manage
your cases remotely, and I have other colleagues that I
can send you to to get the brain backing done,
so you don't have to fly into Atlanta to get
although some people have offered them like thank you, I
just want to.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Come and have a personal experience.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
And that's okay, you know, I appreciate that. Thank you
for the compliment. And I also have people that are
closer to you steal you can you know, go there
and get It's like I send people out for blood work.
You know, you get the blood work done, I get
the results. Same thing with the brain mapping. I send
you to get the brain mapping done. The results come to
me and I'll go over them with you.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
That's good, okay. And do most insurances cover this type
of treatment? Or I just thought i'd ask and.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I can see you or not.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Good stuff isn't covered by insurance. Hyperbaric chambers aren't covered.
You know, when you're a feedback in the covered you
know all these supplements are don't I'm a conspiracy theorist.
Big farmer will rather have you be a lifetime a
customer than have a solution to something, and that would,
you know, break into their profit margin.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
So it's it's just okay, Well, and I know Mackenzie,
she gonna pop that comment up. Reflected on the show
or that of our guests and that of the show
are opinion.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
The funny part is because there are times that I
say stuff and I'm like, oh, this is not or
CTR Media Network.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
We stream and we're part of CTR media network.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Or anybody else liable you can. I would love to
have a conversation, but we welcome that's the that's the
beautiful part. Nobody.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
All people have varying opinions, and that's the whole beautiful
part of public speaking and the opportunity, the opportunity to
share on platforms.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
And I'm honored to have you share today, especially.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
When I personally have children that have different diagnoses and
I wanted to find out two houses. I think I'm
turning this into a personal counseling session.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Anyway. I'm wondering how soon after you start a person
would start the treatment for neuro feedback therapy with they
start seeing the results. I just wanted to know that.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Sure, so typical straightforward case, meaning that there are no
hormonal issues or imbalances. People typically start seeing results after
about thirty sessions are completed, and in my program that's
after about two weeks. Now, if you have some underlying
challenges with your hormones and things like that, then it
can take longer. There are some conditions that it takes
the brain longer to make those changes, So like autism, Parkinson's,

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if you're over sixty five, if you have learning differences,
then the brain can take two to three to four
times as long as to have those same results as
someone who doesn't have those challenges. So it's not a
one size fits all. But that's one of the things
I also love about neuro feedback is that it's catered
to that person. It's your brain mapping won't look like mine,
like my daughters look like you know, the next patients.
It's all catered towards you and what your brain mapping pauses,

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the right protocols, the correct protocol the right way to
address the challenges that that person is happening.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
And is it primarily for pediatric adults? What is it
pediatric or adults or any because I would think that
this would be great, and you tell me even all
times a dementia and stuff like that, So yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Absolutely, it's interesting you mentioned dementia. I spoke at a
symposium last week about EUROP feedback and dementia. It's as
young as my patient's ranged in age from five years
old and up my dementia. Like it's a great way
to prevent, you know, kindnitive decline. My my dad played
football in college and he had multiple concussions you know,
back then there was no base fine, there were smelling thoughts,

(29:24):
sony fingers and you're out the door. And he used
to say, I have CRS, and I'm like central respiratory conductive.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I can't remember. I was like, oh, oh, oh, like
I don't. I didn't.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
I'm not in that generation, so I didn't remember that,
didn't know that that was the vernacular if you could
remember a lot of things, right. So we started with
him with neuro feedback and he doesn't hit over be
eighty seven this year. He's my eldest station and his
brothers and sisters are j justusp, we need to come
down there and have her work on our brains. My
uncle aunts and uncles are like, we need to come
down there. How long do we need to stay so
we can so we get some help. So yes, absolutely,

(29:57):
those those are ranges five and and I especially, it's
not just for those conditions I used for you know,
decreasing my stress and my stresses something like that.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
So stress stress reduction.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
You can come get newer feedback therapy or get the
equipment shipped to you deal with stress management issues and
then you would.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Have you know, some people have memory challenges some people
are have major tests to take, say like uh MCATs,
the LSS, the.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
G RS acts, SATs. When it was time for my
daughters to take them.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Like, hey, let's go get some therapy. Let's go make
sure we can try to get some scholarships to you know,
fray the costs.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
So it's it's.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Wow, okay, okay, this is very motivating. So why is
it that it's like you're not out of priv I mean,
you have to have practices around the country because it's
so much. So many people are coming and saying I
need this, I need this, I need this in my family.
It's almost in my opinion, this is what I do
for Gabe's Heart Foundation. I believe every household should have

(30:59):
to FIB in their homes. I don't just think you
should have them only in public spaces. I think a
portable defibrillator could be a life saving situation. Absolutely raise
funds for that at Gab's Heart Foundation. I think that
based on what I'm hearing you say that you've convinced
me that neuro feedback therapy. Everybody should be reaching out
to you saying, hey, I have a child that's diagnosed

(31:20):
with autism. I have a child diagnosed with ADHD. I
have a child that's struggling to remember things. I have
a parent that's struggling to what. Why is Why aren't
people open.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Minded to this because again we've been trained to that
appill is the way out from birth.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
It's a pill.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Everything's appeal, everything's appill, and it's it's not the case,
and no feedback has been around for over sixty years, yes,
like with chiropractic.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Chiropractic had been.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Out for I think it was about eighty five years
if I'm not mistaken, around that range before insurance even
you know, accepted it.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
And it has no drugs either. It's like you know,
so it's so this is a household thing for you
and your family.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
You do your own children, your dad, yourself, So this
is something that you heavily believe in and it's not
anything that's invasive. So there's no tingling, no sensations. It's
just literally the brain waves are being monitored and some
image is there.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
That allows you the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Okay, wow, it's very easy, very very easy, very portable,
not invasive. Just like when you're doing the training at home,
there are sensors that are placed on different areas of
the scalps, depending upon what part of the brain we're
working on.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
And that's that's it.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I mean, I've had when I was in the office,
I had a patient who was in the sixties, and
it's so subtle, the changing, the fading. He completed his
third session and he was like, okay, doctor, like, when
are we going to start training?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I said, yd He did it. That was the third session.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
He said, I thought you said the screen was going
to fade. I said, it went completely black three times.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
You didn't see it? He said, no, So that that's
a problem, isn't it just because he just watched the movie.
He didn't. He's not thinking or trying to concentrate. You
just watch it.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
So the next time he came in, I set up
on a tripod his camraon to trypy to record his session.
And even after that he didn't see it until he
took the phone off and looked at it.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
He was like, oh, like okay, yeah. Kids were used
to bug their parents. Are we going therapy to day?
To come to my office? Are we going therapy to day?

Speaker 3 (33:14):
I had one day said if he asked me one
more time, we're going therapy today I'm gonna lose it.
And I'm like, no, this is good because kids love
to come to see me. You know, I'm not a
typical doctor, you know, so hey, it's just worse things
than people who love to come do therapy.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
That's really good.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And I'm over here I see on your website because
I'm just looking and i'd like for people to know
when you go to visit brain Cores of Duluth dot com,
I'm gonna show you just at least this homepage because
I think it's good when people get a visual. Sometimes
people never go to something because they don't know what
they're gonna expect to see and so forth. So I'm
gonna pull this up and let you all see this

(33:50):
for a second. Thank you so much for being here
and for sharing your expertise with us today. You've made
me feel more comfortable already. So when you visit, when
you visit brain Core of Delus dot com, and that's
right there on the website, you'll see that you get
your you get your lifestyle back, and here's some imagery
for you. You'll get the opportunity to order signed copy

(34:11):
of the book Transform your Brain with Neurofeedback You also
get to learn more about doctor Candice Home as Homes
as the author and.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
As the practitioner.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
You're going to see a personalized video from her as well,
talking about neuroscience and how that works, how the therapy works.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
How long is that video? Is it? A? Oh?

Speaker 3 (34:33):
It's about three minutes I believe, so a little longer
than the average attention span unfortunately at this time.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Okay, good, this is good.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Increased focus and concentration, improved comprehension, improved sleep. This is
all stuff all of our children need, no side effects,
has results that can last up to thirty years.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
What can say that? Nothing except for Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
I SA only God, Yes, that's fastly God.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Only God can do it. Okay, all I know?

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Wow, okay, So any questions you all have, I do
want to make sure I give you the opportunity to
ask some as well. But one thing that you're emphasized
to is the natural brain transformation. What does that actually
mean and why is it important? Because I heard you
mentioned that as well.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Sure, so transformation? You think of how a caterpillar transforms
into a butterfly. Once your brain has changed, it doesn't
go back, It doesn't go back to where those patterns
and those those frequencies were functioning.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Well, so now your faveror change.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
That's why I love the word transformed, because you you're
totally new in the best possible ways.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
So once this happens, this neual feedback transformation happens based
on all of the testing and things that you do
in the imagery, their brain is forever healed, cured, delivered, set.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Free, transformed. I can't say the cure and all that
other stuff because okay, right, okay, so let's just keep
it transformed and they pass on.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Until until God say, spit for anything else that might
what happen within the brain, but from that component is
transformed to a better version of itself.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Is that right? Absolutely? Absolutely, that's a great way. You
did it. You did it absolutely.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
So Now with the role of even diet, lifestyle, mindfulness, exercise,
stuff like that, how important is that with the brain
health in your Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
When I have a discovery call with people, I typically
give them homework, and the homework that I give them
is to go outside and get some fresh air, get
some vidamin D, put your phone in your pocket or away,
and like people say, oh, y'all. Walking out this to
a podcast, I said, you know, it's possible to just
it's extra great to just to be still. You know,
your body's moving, but your brain is still. Like you
have to give it a break. We're inundated with so
much information every day every day, and guess what it

(36:49):
is okay to be still, to be still. So the
exercising to get your brain active also get the blood
flowing to the brain. We have too many sedentary lifestyle
choices now and then we have to get away from that.
I mean, I have so many patients who have to
take Vitamin D because they don't get enough sun. And like,
especially here in the South, like the sun is abundant.
Like that's why I live here, you know, because I'm

(37:11):
from Detroit originally living in Detroit. Good lord, I didn't
realize the sun came out of November until I went
to school in New Orleans. I'm like, Wow, the sun
is and you just feel better, like it's free here.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
The sun is out. Like you see, everybody's mood just changes.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Also, getting adequate sleep, a lot of us don't sleep well.
You have to get at least it's just seven hours.
It used to be eight hours eight. We're happy if
you get seven hours of quality sleep, because sleeping is
when all the magic happens. It's when your body refocuses,
is when it recharges, it regenerates anything, any read that
you can think of, that's what happens while you're sleeping.
Those memories that you have, those short term memories are
converted to long term memories when you get the adequate

(37:45):
amount of sleep.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
And we don't do that. So it's like keeping a
computer on forever and never shutting it down.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
My brother works at a telecommunications company and he works
over systems, and he said, typically, I asked the first question,
when was the last time the system was shut down?
And they go and they checked and reopened the office
years ago, three and eighty five days or so, and
he said, okay, shut it down and restart. And typically

(38:11):
while life you know, that's that's everything's great. And then
water consumption, we don't drink enough water. I encourage patients
to drink alkaline water. Course, you have to check with
your your doctor see if that's great for you. The
majority of foods that we eat and drinks that we
can consume are acidic. And guess what loves acid diseases,
love the citic environment. So let's change that by drinking
alkalin water. Let's start from the inside out. My dad

(38:33):
is a prostate cancer survivor to two time prostate cancer survivor,
and I've been encouraging him to drink alkal water. I'm
with a company that offers that they can put regular
tap water and get in and then ge alkaline water
out just because of that fact. And you know, even
bottom of the portable water bottle and still just going
stop going to the refrigerator. That, like I said, get

(38:53):
the good water, get the good water.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
So then the years went by, and then he came
home and he said, you'll, my dot said I should
be drinking alkhal of water.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
You're like, your daughter has been saying that for this.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
I've been saying for the past two years, Daddy that
oh okay, okay, you know, So that's that's it. So
the water, the sleeping, exercising, just and just getting out
and just thirty minutes a day, you know, minimum, it's
so important.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
It lifts your mood.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
It's just so important, and most people don't do it
because we're just in the day in, day out, you know,
got to got to make the donuts. You know, time
to make the donuts. Time to make the donuts. Well,
you know they have to have a time to rise
and the cook. So just you know, give yourself that break.
There's that mental break.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
So so for yourself, what would you say, is like
one of the biggest lessons you've learned over the thirty
years of experiences that you have in wellness and chiropractic care.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
What's like a lesson that's like this has been it
for me? Kim right here the the move it or
lose it aspect. Okay, you gotta keep moving.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
My dadd's eighty seven and he's in great health, great
physical health, and people always ask him, you know what,
what's the secret?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
He said, you got to keep moving.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I remember when I was growing up, uh and in
Detroit do we have my block was unique and it's
the city of Detroit, not in our suburb. I grew
up in Detroit and our city block had a lot
of educators on there. And I remember my dad and
I were outside We're probably playing catching something because I
played softball in basketball through high school.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
And our neighbor was across the street, mister Jones and
he was walking.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I was like, hey, mister Jones' like hey, you know,
and so he's walking, you know, humped over, you know,
really slowly and everything, and so he you know, went
to the house and my dad said, how old do
you think he is? And I get you know, you're
you're young, your fifty so so old you know some number,
and he said, he and I are the same age.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, I've seen stuff like that. I'm like, you've got
to be kidding me. This is impossible. He said, keep moving.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
I'll keep moving, you know I would, or lose move
it or lose it.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Okay, these are some good notes now.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Moving moving water, yeah, like moving water to your body,
you know, like get rid of all the waste products.
But a lot of people aren't sick, they're just dehydrated.
You drink water, you'll feel so much better. My daughter, mommy,
I said, when the last time you have some water?

Speaker 1 (41:05):
I said, you're not in of my roof anymore. Both
my daughters are in college. My friends.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Let me full of these daughters that your reference. Let
me see, let me see, let me find these here
of this beautiful family. I see some family photos back here.
So that's my dad, My my oldest is to the left.
That's my youngest in the middle, and then that's me
on the right. And you can see too how to
stay connected. I'm gonna put that the full picture.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
The go ahead, for sure. But just just drinking water,
it's it's just such a simple thing.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
And you know, you train a child, you know, so
we only had water and cranberry juice in our house,
and cranberry juice was the treat, you know. I remember,
we'll go out and and and you know, maybe get
a sprite or something. I can't even drink sprit anymore.
It's too it's too sugar, it's too you know, just
just catch it. So trying to stay away from that.
Just drinking water is a good way to make sure
that your body is functioning well. We just have to

(41:57):
get those waste products out and keep nourishing our ells.
Like when you wake up, that's the first thing you
do is to drink, you know, a good amount of water,
just to you know, revitalize yourselves and get those most
products out.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
It makes a difference.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Some people drink coffee in the morning to get their
bodies moving. I drink water, like I get the same
effect from drinking water. So so just switch over the
water and see what. And you know water is ever flowing.
It comes from your tap.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
You know, it's like right right runs out. This picture
here is of you and that's your dad, my dad, Yes,
that's my dad. Gotta be kidding me.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Do you know that the entire time I was looking
at these pictures, I was like, okay, I said, no, canvas,
don't have her sugar.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Daddy right, my dad. He's like they think if they think,
you know, we're together. I'm like, Daddy, you're my daddy.
You know, like I promise you that people would think
that that that's your family, you know your dad. Yes,
I'm a daddy's girl. And your dad looks so amazing.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Because he takes care of himself. You know, I tell
people that's that's my example.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
You know. So when I'm eighty, he'll be eighty seven
in July. Yes, you know you're about to set your
dad up. You're like, look at okay, So I got
this one lady. She and herself.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Oh, we went to kim We went to homecoming. So
my parents met at our alma mater. I'm gonna let
I'm a legacy for Dave University of Louisiana. Okay, I'm
talking this one lay and she's.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Like, is that your dad? And I said yes, and
I was like, oh my god. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
I was like yes, you know I well, I said,
you know, he's a widow and he was just like, oh, am,
I'm a widow.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
I was like, oh, you know, Oh it's interesting, but yes,
it's I telling.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
You the nim chown. Ray started to be doing something.
We might be hooking. You don't know, where's somebody gonna
find you?

Speaker 3 (43:41):
You never know.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Wait, wait, so then please clarify this because I'm gonna
put you right here front and center.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
So I understand that means you single. I am. I am,
I'm divorced. I've been divorced for eighteen years. Yes. Now,
I knew you were divorced. But then when I saw
these pictures and I was like, oh, dad, that's my daddy. No,
that's my daddy or whatever, I didn't know you're here. Okay, y'all, y'all. Okay.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
So now now people are gonna be just trying to
get their brain checked just so they can connect, and
they're gonna be like, oh, my brain check.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Listen, listen, the brain controls everything, you know, keep it together.
Your life is great. Your life is great.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
So parents that are looking because I want you to
be the front and center of this answer to but
parents that are looking for these alternative methods to really
work with their children, what's your message to them.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
I sometimes have an issue with the word alternative because
it's just it's natural.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
It's natural oatural. So let's go back, let's rephrase it.
I'm glad you said that, and I love let me
let me do this for a second.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I'm gonna put you back over here.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
But what I think I love the most about our
conversation here is we're able to have an authentic conversation.
So you don't have to come onto the show and
be like, I'm gonna change who I am, age my beliefs.
If I don't like alternative, then I'm not gonna I'm
gonna say you want to rephrase that question because.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I don't like that wordy. And that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
So when you're in situations like this, people just snow
over and kind of go with the flow.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
I'm a believer.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Don't go with the flow if the flow is opposite
of what your true belief is, and I want to
go with the truth. So what is your suggestion in
your message to parents that are looking for others?

Speaker 1 (45:35):
I still conditioned in your mind to say something wrong,
still say it's habit.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
And we've been trained, you know, since since.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
So you asked the question, so I can hear the
right way to ask it.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Because so, uh, what would I tell parents who are
looking for a more natural way of addressing conditions that
their children have?

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Let me ask you that question.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Ask sure, what would you tell parents that are looking
for a non traditional way that would be non invasive
and give them an open minded approach to something that
could help the outcome of their family. The help it
could change their generational outcomes of their lives. So, now
I know that's a good question. Pat yourself, grow go up.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
It's just like I mentioned before, you change one person
in the family, that everybody's lives changes. Like I have
a lot of parents who are concerned if their children,
you know, have some special needs that when they pass,
you know who's going to take care of the child?
You know, they don't necessarily want to have their their
siblings have to take care because it's that that's not
their child, so it is a real concern. And my
goal for all my patients is to be as self
sufficient and independent as possible. So my suggestion is to

(46:46):
try those methods that are natural. You have nothing to lose.
You have nothing to lose, There aren't any side effects,
there's only typically benefits. And again, everyone's body is from
everyone's brain is different, so you may not have the
same results.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Like my mom she passed in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Before that, I was like, hey, Mom, you know, let's
let's go take you to a functional medicine doctor see
if you have any parasites or any metals in your system,
because she was, she was sickly ever since she retired.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
And we went she said, oh, you know, it's not
covered by insurance.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
You know, I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
I said, you've been paying insurance all these years and
you're still sick.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
So that's just something different.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
And so she went found out she had parasites, found
out she had heavy metals in her system. You know,
back when you had the metal feelings and everything, and
just think about the toxicity that's falling through your body
all the time.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
My mom was a smoker too.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
You know, won't get into that, and so she started
with the suppling and said, oh, these are expensive. I said, mom,
I said, what's the price.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
That you pay on your health?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
That's like when I made the investment with the program
for my daughter, with the system. That's the best investment
I ever made. Because now she's self sufficient, independents. She's
in college, she studying to be an environmental chemist.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I don't have to. I don't help her with homework.
I don't.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I don't worry about her. I'm like, you know, I've
done my job. They are self sufficient, independent, and that's
that's priceis I every day I'm like, whoa. That's why
I was able to write the book because I had time.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I had time.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
I was like, oooh, you know what what yes, you know,
it's it's.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
It's it's life changing.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Like I said, if if ner feedback didn't come into
my my, my, my life, I don't know where I
would be right now, honestly, because that is thirteen.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
You said you got air teen, so that that was
a long time in my opinion, of having frustration, everydation, discipline,
Go go to your room.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
You mean to tell me you brought home a d
and things that phone calls from the strange outcome of
her life.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Exactly, phone calls from the school. And then her thing
about her confidence too, like her sister's giving an accelerator.
Her sister is understanding and and and thriving, you know,
and she's older and she's not. And I remember I
had them in Montessori school at one point, and the
suggestion was for the youngest to teach the oldest like,
we're not No, we're not We're not doing that. Shirry
knows something is is a little different. I don't need

(49:05):
her to think that she's less than because her sister
can't get it in and she can't. I'm like, you know,
I'm thinking, what kind of suggestion, you know? And again,
people give you suggestions and you you take them or
leave them. I'm sad to leave that. I said, no, right, yeah,
we're not doing that.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
We're not doing this.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Like when my youngest was in pre K, one of
her teachers called her bossy. I said, so, what you're
saying is that my daughter is a leader.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Right.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
If she's telling her peers to.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Do something and they do it, then that means she's
a leader. That means that's not that's not bossy. I'm like,
you're not going to pigeonhole my daughter into something. My daughter,
my youngest daughter, was the MC the mistress of ceremonies
at her kindergarten graduation.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Okay, bossy, No.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
That's called the possible President of the United States coming
up soon in the future.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
So let's get it right.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
One that put it in And I wasn't gonna let
her participate because I'm kindergarten graduation.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Like, what's the point, Like what you can color? Like what?
I don't? Yeah I did, she said, No, Mommy, I
say such and such. I'm like, like, wait a minute,
you say what. I'm like, leader girl. Yes, yes, So
so just just be open.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
To other things that that are that are non traditional,
that are natural, because it could be the one thing
that changes everything.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Wow, okay, So what's the main thing you want people
to walk away knowing from your book? Because I want
people to know how to get your book. Tell them
to this book and it's a sign autograph copy. So
get the book today, y'all. Even if you don't, if
you never did the new or feedback therapy, get the
book and at least transform your brain to learn how
it works absolutely and reading reading actual physical books is

(50:47):
one of the best ways that you can help your brain.
I've used the language in there that's that's easy to understand.
You don't have to get a glossary or a medical
dictionary to figure things out.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
I like to be challenging when I'm reading, but I
want to feel like I'm dumb.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
You know. That's that kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
It's like it's a it's a it's a it's a
happy medium in there.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
So yeah, you go to my website brain Corps up
Duluth dot com to order to sign copy. And what
I want to leave people with parents and adults alike,
is there are other ways, other methods of helping with
mental health challenges that don't include medication that's good, that.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Are long lasting, that that are effective.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
And I mean neurofeedback has been used with NASA astronauts,
it's used with Navy seals, it's used with professional athletes,
you know, with their circadian rhythms being all messed up
because they travel all the time.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
So it's it's out there.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
And because of technology has improved and systems are more
user friendly, I'm able to offer it, just like how
computers you.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
Should take up rooms and now it's in a phone.
You know, it's the same thing.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Because computers have improvement, software has improved, I'm able to
offer this. I'm so thankful to do that because it's
it's the transformations of what I live for. I mean,
I had had a patient was having headaches every day,
but for eleven y years. When he contacted me, his
wife is his wife is a medical doctor, and you know,
she had him go through everything, the neurologists, the MRIs, everything, nothing, nothing, nothing.

(52:08):
And at eleven years, I'm like, okay, you know you're
a candidate. Do you want to begin He was out
of state, and he was like, oh, our son is
going to college. I think I want to just you know, wait,
you know and see what I said. Okay, at some
point you have to take care of yourself, that's right.
So I kept checking up with him, you know, a
few months or so, and you know, I didn't want
to bother anybody, but I am the queen of follow up.
I would keep fowing with you even if you don't
work with me, I still want that what's going on.

(52:29):
You know, I'm a supportive person. That's just we're here
to help each other.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Right. And so around around two years or so, he call.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
I think I hadn't spoken him in like six months
or so, and he called and left the message. She
was like, look, he said, he said, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I'm ready. And I called him.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
I said, well, what change? She said, nothing, And he's
passed two years. Nothing has changed. I'm still where I
am where I.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Talked to you two years ago.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
So then he started with me, and oh my, goes
the transformation.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I mean, I desminded everything to you know, he and
his wife, and he started with the program, and he
was like, oh my gosh. He was the went away
instead of every day he was having them at the time.
Last time, I spoke about once every like two two
and a half three months or so. And even then
they were very mild. They weren't, you know, uh heavy
on him. And he was able to compete in a

(53:15):
national competition for a track he actually want to meddle
in his in his weight class.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
He was already a coach, but he was able to
you know, coach more effectively.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
And now when he was going on vacations, his family
would have to leave him and he would have to
be in a dark room, you know, cold room when
he had the migrants, because he wasn't even able to
participate with it with family vacations. Now he's out and enjoying.
He said, you know, my marriage has improved. You know,
my relationship with my children has improved.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
You know, I feel great. You know, I'm like a
whole different person, pretty different person, and just a warm persons.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
The one thing, the one thing, the one thing that
changed everything.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
And that's good that you said the one thing, because
sometimes there's a book I read and it's by Gary
Keller anyway, it's called the One Thing. And the point
is the book it talks about this one thing. If
you just do one thing and focus on that one thing,
that can cause a domino effect and it can change everything.
And so this is what this kind of reminds me
of focusing on what's going on in that one area

(54:10):
of your brain to support a challenge, challenge and really
trying to work to transform it to something that can
change the course of your life.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Autely.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
And I also know that you're on the board of
what was the support I want to support to some
spectrum autism support group?

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Right, Yes, I am I am, and there are so
many resources out there that most people don't know about.
That's that's a diagnosis. Unfortunately, that is increasing at an
alarming rate. I asked out gift bag yesterday to local
elementary and middle schools and I was talking with an
educator and he was saying, I had to hire two

(54:46):
special education teachers to accommodate the amount of autistic people
young and children that are in our program in our school.
And I was like, wow, too, that's it's significant.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Again.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
You don't know that some people don't even know that
they have autisms. I know in different instances in my
own family, it was like the self diagnosis of I
think I.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Need to get checked for this, and I was like,
for what, what is it?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
So then I go and get the person checked, and
sure enough, they literally have been diagnosed with this, not
because they're just trying to force diagnoses on them, but
they are in the spectrum.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
And that's why it's called a spectrum because it's such
a wide range. As the saying goals, if you've met
one person with autism, you met one person with autism.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
When you met one person with autism, you met one
person with autism. Wow, yes, I love that, and I
think for me anyway, in our family, when we learned
of some of these things, the diagnosis of that, it
was like almost like finally the mass could be removed. Yes, yes,
I was like, why are you different now? Before you,
before we found this out, you weren't like that. It
was like, no, that's because I was trying my best.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
To be what somebody me to be.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
To mathematically and think about how much energy and effort
it takes to try to mask who you are, you know,
and that's that's I'm so thankful now, especially in our culture,
that people are talking more about mental health.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Mental health is just important as physical health.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Honestly, I think it's it's a bit better because your
mind controls everything, you know, keeping a positive attitude, you know,
knowing that there are solutions out there, knowing that there's
something that you can do as as simple as reading
a book, you know, taking a walk, drinking water, sleeping, well,
these these are things that are so basic but so forgotten,
so forgotten in our in our fast paced world. So
it's important to just go back to basics.

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Thank you for this.

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So glad that you're tuned in today. I see a
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know all these. Years the last THING i just want
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thing that changes.

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Kendall, Okay, kendall and thank you for being such a
supportive sister and for recognizing the differences when you did
start to see some of the transformation that happened to
bring better outcomes for your.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
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