June 21, 2019 • 37 mins
Nanautzin, an Aztec god, needs to be sated every 52 years with five human sacrifices. In 1975 it was up to Carl Kolchak to end the cycle of violence by stopping the final sacrifice of Pepe (Erik Estrada).
Chris Stachiw and Mike White also discuss the bizarre mash-up of "Legacy of Terror" and "Demon in Lace" called "The Demon and the Mummy" which unsuccessfully marries the two episodes.
Chris Stachiw and Mike White also discuss the bizarre mash-up of "Legacy of Terror" and "Demon in Lace" called "The Demon and the Mummy" which unsuccessfully marries the two episodes.
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Among the philosophers, the great thinkers, and the common jewels of this world.
No question is more controversial than truth. Remarkable as it may seem,
I can attest that the following eventsdid occur, whether you believe them to
be true or not. That wasthe voice of reporter Carl Kolchak in the
Case that We Call a Legacy ofTerror. Directed by Don McDougall and written
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by Arthur Rowe. This episode droppedon February fourteenth, nineteen seventy five,
just in time for Valentine's Day,and a romantic lead. Eric Astrada definitely
fits the bill of quite a hunkany really not great actor right out of
the gate either a very disinterested gentlemanas they might say. I don't know
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if it comes across well enough thathe's supposed to be pretty much fucked up
through this episode, because that's whatit's supposed to be, But it doesn't
come off that way. No,And I have to say the mythology of
this episode confusing, Like even afterreading the script, I was still kind
of confused, even after going toWikipedia and trying to learn as much as
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I could about Quetza Quaddle and allthe other Aztec gods. Still not buying
exactly everything that going on, Nome either. Oh and by the way,
you're Mike White and I'm Chris dashyou. Yeah, And this is
the Colchack Tapes, your monthly lookat Carl Colechack and the show that we
call The night Stalker and possibly TVmovie that was put together from the pieces
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of two episodes that is quite possiblyone of the most bizarre things I've ever
seen. Without a doubt, TheDemon and the Mummy is something that no
one should be subjected to because ifyou've seen the original episodes, which if
you're listening to this right now youtotally have, like we have. It
is jarring, it's unsettling. Yes, it's so weird. And look they
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got Darren McGavin to record narration tomake it all fit together. But if
you've seen the two episodes Legacy ofTerror and Demon in Lace, you know
how they work on their own andwhen they are mushed together. And when
I mean mushed, I mean youknow how those cars they test them to
make sure that they like when theycrash, the airbags go off and they
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run like a miles an hour intoa concrete wall. That's what this is
like one episode is a concrete wall, the other one's the truck. They're
mashed together so poorly that it's likeshocking that anyone thought that was a good
idea. Yeah, in this worldof mashup culture, where we can have
an entire album of fifty cent rappingover the songs of Queen and it works
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really well, these two things donot go together, even though they've got
the same actors, the same characters, the same guy doing the voiceover for
both. Yeah, but let's savethat. And they aired consecutively when they
first aired. Well, let's savethat for a little bit later. Let's
talk about the basse episode bass episode. Yeah, sure, let's talk about
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Legacy of Terror. I think it'san interesting episode. Again, like you
said, the mythology is a littlestrange. I think the ending is probably
the worst part of the episode.In my opinion, it makes no sense.
And I'm going to ask you yourthoughts. Did you think the villain
zombie monono his eyes at the endwas intentional or they just let the camera
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sit on him too long. Iwas very curious about that. Yeah,
I'm airring on the side of theyleft the camera too on too long or
they didn't edit it tight enough.Yeah, I kind of think, oh,
they should have faded to black alittle bit sooner. I would agree
one percent, because you see hiseyes open and it's like, wait,
what, we are back into territorywhere we have scripts for this. So
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I managed to read the script ofit, and interestingly enough, this was
not called The Legacy of Terror outof the gate that was handwritten in on
the script. It was called ALord of the Smoking Mirror. That would
have been a better title. Yeah, I think so too. Very interestingly,
the script was originally written January tenth, nineteen seventy five, revisions January
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thirteenth, nineteen seventy five, andthere were a lot of things that happened
between when those last revisions were doneand when the episode actually aired, which
was a month later. There werewhole scenes that were cut out of there,
the whole idea of Carl reporting tothis hotel to please Vincenzo and Ron,
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and I loved what a dick Ronwas being at the hotel with him,
just like, oh, well,the clocksas eight fifteen and my watches
eight seventeen, and then Vincenzo justshutting him down. With well, why
don't we call Grant grandit Ship's libratory. Well, and I'll tell you what.
I really liked seeing them outside ofthe I and S offices. Yeah,
that was very nice because that's somethinglike that's a big complaint I have
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with this show is that the charactersof Vincenzo and Ron and Miss Emily honestly
feel like they're just trapped in theoffices. Let these people have a break,
for God's sakes, like they're justtrapped in there. Seeing them out
and about was kind of was kindof nice. I mean, it was
different. It was very nice tosee them though, if reserves. Ron
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kind of disappears once Colcheck, LikeColcheck arrives, he hears a police band
radio, He's like, oh,I gotta go. He comes back later
on, and I don't think Ron'shanging out, is he? No,
he's gone. Yeah, I don'tknow what's going on. Maybe he's at
home smoking his pipe. Yeah pipethat's supposed to make him look better talk
about when he goes. Yeah,my wife says it makes me look smarter.
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I was like, really, really, Ron, you gotta go for
that? Huh about that? Ron? Yeah, Yeah, you're not fooling
anybody. Pal. No, butthat whole thing of Colcheck coming back and
talking to the two military people andthe PR lady from the hotel that is
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completely changed in the script, whichI found interesting, really very very different
in the whole thing of Ericastrada comingin as this no nothing higher exec in
the hotel chain, which you know, felt very realistic. That the pr
lady is just like, I don'tknow how this guy got his job.
He doesn't know how to do hisjob. He's a complete moron, but
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nobody can touch him. I've reallyfelt for her in that position. Yeah.
Well, and you know, Imean it's it's pretty real to life.
I mean we've all heard about thator possibly experienced in ourselves. So
I can only hope that those peoplethat are in those positions will eventually get
sacrificed to an Aztec god. Yeahright, they'll disappear along with upper management.
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That's the crazy thing. Upper managementdisappears as well, because upper management
are the bad guys in this episode. Yeah, that is very strange.
The people that own the entire hotelchain are like the villains. Yeah,
but you don't even see them untilthe very end, which I thought was
a kind of a really not great. I didn't think that was a really
very good choice. Who are youthinking we're upper management in that? Andrews
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Okay, Pepe Torres, it's kindof up or not like superb as he's
middle level management one. Andrew's likethe owner of the hotel chain. And
he disappears at the end because Imean he disappears because he's the one trying
to sacrifice Pepe to Manono. Isit Manoo? I thought it had a
he had a weird name. It'sprobably not Minoo. But that's gonna that's
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gonna upset at least one sci fiwriter, and I know he's gonna give
me shit on Facebook for it.So Nana Ninos, Yeah, match Manudo
Nutzen, Sure, match man Tau. I mean I even looked up Nan
Nutsen on Wikipedia and it was justlike, oh no, he seems like
a good guy. And then therewas like there was the bad guy that
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they talked about who was like thegod of night, and I was like,
okay, well it's probably him who'sactually no, no, it's Nan
Nutsen. He's supposed to be thatguy, like, really, okay,
Pepe. Just for folks listening isthe Eric Astrada character. And so the
whole gist of this is that theseAztecs are are living amongst us. They
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are doing human sacrifices every fifty twoyears to Nan Knutzen, who is going
to come back in twenty twenty sevenand I guess reclaim his throne or something.
So they've been doing this every fiftytwo years like clockwork. They make
four sacrifices of heroes or really importantpeople, and then the fifth sacrifice is
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somebody who voluntarily goes under the knife. So they have Peppe who has agreed
to do this, and he's goingto live his life as a king for
a year. Beforehand, his momwill be taken care of. And I
do like, right, I dolike that speech that he gives the col
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check towards the end where he's justlike listen, man, I probably would
have gotten wasted by the cops beforeI was twenty five. Anyway, what
am I saving myself for another jobas a box boy living with the old
lady? I got the year everybodyonce, but look I figured it this
way. Bet at the king fora night for a lifetime. Well,
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it's you know, better to rulein heaven than serve and hell right exactly,
which I mean again, like,look, Eric Estrade is not the
problem with this episode. The problemwith this episode is just, I think
a general lack of understanding of makinga compelling mythology and also not really having
an interesting conclusion. The conclusion seemsreally kind of I wouldn't say dorky,
but it just doesn't work very well, and the investigation itself does not work
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for me. The two it's reallyreally rushed and bizarre. So normally we
have Colcheck visit at least two orthree people and get little bits of information
in order to put these things together, and in this one, he goes
to visit Sorrel Book, who mostpeople know as boss Hog from Dukes of
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Hazzard. In this he's playing ataxidermist who has this weird thing about reporters
who describe taxidermy animals as being stuffed, and he really chafes under the hat.
WTF I don't understand, sure,because taxidermis are getting reported on all
the time. Yeah, there aretons of stories. I mean pretty much,
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you open up a newspaper any dayof the weekend, you're going to
see at least a handful of taxidermystories in there. Sure dah. They
need a really good PR person.They need the PR person who's running the
hotel, PR Tilly I think hername is, and she is doing a
good job. And I love howshe shuts down Cole check and the military
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guy Coal Checker, No, it'sVincenzo because they are over talking the military
woman, Captain Madge Timmins, andshe's just like, hey, let her
speak. She actually can talk,you know, And I was just like,
Wow, a blow for feminism finallyon this show. If she's so
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smart, then let her talk rightcorrect. It was. It's like,
and there's there's parts of this episodethat are good, that are interesting,
I think. Unfortunately, though,on a whole the episode suffers from what
I would deem at this point justwhat I come to expect from a cold
Chag episode. And I want totalk about those other two guys that I
mean, one guy gives Carl barelyany information, and he's supposed to be
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He's supposed to be somebody who he'snot like he's there's that whole thing like,
oh, the guy you want totalk to is on vacation. It's
a very frustrating scene. It's justlike, really, it's super weird.
The guy's like, well, whydon't you talk about these things in Mexico?
The industrial things in Mexico's like putwhere we're here? So like I
get what he was trying to dois like but like it's almost like he
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was trying to cover something up andit's like why so yeah, and then
you have the scene with the professor, which it's almost like basil exposition,
tell us everything about what we're notunderstanding in this episode. Please not to
be a stickler or anything, butI thought that all of this stuff would
have gone down in twenty twelve,not twenty twenty seven. And I thought
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that the Mayan calendar was all,well, it's a different base than ours,
which is Base twelve. But Ican't remember what their basis, but
I thought that their whole thing was, oh, yeah, the world's going
to end in twenty twelve, andthat's why everybody, you know, that's
why John Cusack was saving the worldback then Base fifty two, sir.
Apparently according to Colcheck you know,which again is the same thing that we've
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seen in how many episodes now whereit's this whole these things happen in cycles,
and Colcheck is the only one thatfigures out that this thing is happening.
You know, this is our victorToomb's thing again. This is going
all the way back to the NightStrangler with this guy shows up every X
number of years and kills X numberof people, and I had to stop
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him before he kills the last one. Boy, Jeepers. Creepers isn't great,
isn't it. It's just that thatwhole trope is really played out.
This one was written by earth ARow, who wrote one of your favorite
episodes of the entire show, whichis The Energy Eater, where we've got
the the Greditor, the Native Americanbear Spirit, your friend, Matchi Mantau,
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Matchi Manteu, Little Matchi Minito,which was another one of these combo
episodes where they took the Energy Eaterand Firefall and they made them into Crackle
of Death. So we're going tohave to go back and watch Crackle of
Death, and I can only imaginethat is going to be as terrible as
the Demon and the Mummy. ColdJackie's on the trail of two serial killers.
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Kids. Are the police want himout of the way? Do you
want to take another trip of thepolice car, Colhack and the Killers one
in Dead in digging to get theimpression that Chicago. Darren McGannon is cold
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Jack the night stalker in Demon andthe Money Next to You. I kind
of don't want to talk about it. It's so infuriating because it makes no
sense why. I mean, itmakes sense why it exists, but in
the form that it's presented, andit makes no sense, like it actually
doesn't make a look of sense.So you take the beginning of Demon and
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Lace, which we talked about lastmonth, and if folks want to go
back and listen to that episode,I would highly recommend it, because otherwise
you might not understand the rest ofthis discussion. It starts with that,
and then we take Legacy of Terrorand we put it right in the middle,
and then we end with Demon andLace, and there are just these
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weird little mentions of the case fromthe first part in the second part,
and then the end of it,Oh my god, the end where they
try to wrap up both of thestories at the same time. What the
fuck, dude, It doesn't work. Like, look, Demon and Lace
and Legacy of Terror are just okayepisodes on their own. But man,
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when you mash them together, whothe cracks? The cracks show and then
some and yeah, trying to putthem together in an ending is just they're
like the themes aren't even the same. Like, I guess they're both ancient
evils, but m I feel likeI could rewrite this to make it work
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and maybe even reuse the footage,But the way that it is now,
I mean, so you're right,you've got two ancient evils. The demon
almost looks as bad as the Mummyat the end. I mean, we've
got both of these like kind ofHong Kong type, you know, creatures
at the end here, And it'slike, okay, maybe you say that
they are working together. Recast thiswhole Mesopotamian thing of demon and lace as
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being more of an Aztec thing.Who's going to know that we're looking at,
you know, Samerian glyphs on thething rather than whatever the Aztecs we're
using. Go ahead and just saythat he got this tablet somewhere in Mexico
or something, and bring those twomonsters together, make them either the same
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monster, or say that they workin conjunction with one another. One possesses
the living, the other will possessthe dead in order to make the stuff
cohes. But then even the waythat they do those two stories, in
the way that they chunk them up, it's like, every once in a
while during the Mummy episode, theLegacy of Terror colcheck will be like,
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oh, yeah, remember those threedead guys from earlier, And they even
have that weird insert shot where it'slike a picture of a guy we've never
seen before, and then two imagegrabs basically from the earlier in the episode,
and they just throw it into theLegacy of Terror section and it's like,
don't forget about these guys. They'regoing to come back eventually. Yeah.
I felt very much like the whatdoes it enter the Dragon? Oh,
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where it's just like his head onlike a wooden stick that someone's holding
in front of their face, orit's like taped on a mirror. It
feels so cheap. It feels socheap and poorly done. Look, this
is Look, I don't want tobelittle or bemoan anyone, but it is
a hack job. It is ahack job in the hackiest of senses.
Look, here's the thing. Itwas aired as part of a you know
it's a TV movie, so it'san hour and forty minutes. And the
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version that I watched that you providedwas part of a cool check marathon,
So it's like, but why doyou have to pad it out? Did
you not air these that's the question. Did they not air these two episodes
separately? Because if you aired themseparately and you have this, then you've
seen the same stories once for Legacy, once for Demon and Lace, and
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then you've seen them together as onewhole piece. So you've seen the same
stories essentially twice. My favorite thingabout watching The Demon and the Mummy was
watching the commercials from Sci Fi Networkfrom what every year that was agreed,
that made it, that made itworth it, Walter Cane, egg shilling,
the Star Trek albums. I wasso happy, or what is it?
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Happy Birthday song went left Wow.And then towards the end, they've got
a commercial that stan Lee will behosting a Marvel Marathon. I'm just like,
Okay, what the hell are theygoing to show? I mean,
it sounds like they were going toshow the Doctor Strange TV movie. Are
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they going to show old episodes ofthe Nicholas Hammond Spider Man and the Bill
Bixby Incredible Hulk? I mean,what are they going to do on the
Marvel Marathon circle? Whatever year?This was? Well, the show Captain
America also is what it looked like? Oh yeah, that's right, I
forgot about that. Yeah, itwas kind of bizarre that this was like
a thing that was being aired onsci fi. But at the same time,
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the commercials were the best part,without a doubt. I mean,
the way that they hacked up thatJackie Vernon section and that whole tuna fish
thing was gone. And did younotice that they got ron Jack Renage to
record a new line as well duringthat section that we're talking about with the
pipe he goes You told Colchack towrap up the story on the campus deaths,
and I was like, oh,okay, some of that hot hot
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adr coming in to help out withthe cohesiveness of the story. Now right,
it's been seven days since the professionalfootball player was killed. Okay,
thanks, thanks off screen voice fortelling us what went on. You're about
as dense as Captain Joe Siska.Okay, good, we're tying the two
police officers together. Can you imagineif they try to do something like this
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nowadays? I mean, have theydone something like this nowadays? No,
that's my point. Can you imagineif they try to do something like this,
like can you imagine them taking saysomething that's hot right now? Imagine
them taking season eight of Game ofThrones and cutting all eight episodes into one
episode. Oh trust me, they'rethey're working on a fan at it right
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now fan edit dot Org. I'msure they're going to do that, and
they're going to rearrange stuff in orderto take out if there was any mad
At tension, to take that rightout of there. Well, that's been
the whole show from the get go. But I mean that's the same thing.
It's that same idea where it's like, you can't get away with this
because it's real bad. No amountof talented writing and editing and adr and
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can change that. These episodes havenothing to do with one another. What
they should have possibly done, otherthan the stuff that I've already outlined,
is to go back to the famousfamily ties thing when Michael J. Fox
was out being busy and do afucking clip show and just you know,
it's Mallory and you know, momand dad and they're sitting around and I
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can't remember the other sister's name atTina Yethers and they start talking about things
and it's like remember that time whenAlex did this, And then they do
a clip show and it's just like, okay, great, go for it.
I mean, this reminds me ofthe Cage the Star Trek pilot where
they oh yeah, where they tookthose things the pilot and they put them
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into another episode. But with thatit kind of actually worked because it's like,
we're presenting evidence and there's enough ofa story here to actually make sense
of this. That's the best comparisonthe cage. You're right, that actually
is the best comparison, because otherwise, I mean, the most funny things
for me were the things that theywere inserting to desperately try to tie these
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together. That weird moment where Colchackgives us vo and there's an insert shot
of the typewriter and he goes memoto myself, have lunch with writer Roslin
Winter tomorrow campus coffee shop. AndI was just like what or that?
Did you freak out when the episodestarted again? Because they reused footage from
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the opening of the show. Yeah, it was like, what the hell
is going on? Right? Iwas like, did it just end and
I didn't notice? No? Yeah, And again like that's the problem with
trying to do this with a TVshow that is a one hour show without
a mythology is that you just makingfucking messes. It's like you're just it's
like you're putting a finger in ahole, but the water coming in,
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and like four other holes open upwith water. It's like you can't stop
all of this at once, andit's just God, it's just like it
goes from bad to worse to justlike just turn it off, just just
just stop. Stop. He's deadalready, Like that's really what this felt
like. They're just beating it todeath and looked like these two episodes apart
aren't terrible, but God, theDemon in the moment together is absolute garbage.
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It's garbage. I gotta talk aboutthat end the end of Demon in
the Mummy. So you've got Carlgiven vo at the end of both of
these, you know, or we'llactually see Carl giving you know, the
final wrap up in these episodes andinstead of just redoing that and having him
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wrap both of those and by thetime we've you know, we are rapping
Demon in lace, which is nowthe end of that comes after the end
of the Legacy of Terror, becausebecause the end of Legacy of Terror happens
like halfway through the fucking movie,which again super weird, super weird.
But then their weird decision to notgive Carl the full voiceover and say,
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okay, here's what happened with himin Lace and here's what happened with Legacy
of Terror. Instead, rather thanhim saying I hear that Pepe became a
box boy, they cut in Pepegoing I could become a box boy,
and it's like what okay? Thesecurity for US insisted on calling the Chicago
Police press charges against me, butthey found a sudden surprising resistance from doctor
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c. Evans Spade, who claimedthe tablet had been broken accidentally. And
another thing, did I tell youPeppy had not been found? Well?
Rosalind discovered not only the clue tohis disappearance, but Pepe, what am
I saving myself for another job?Is a box boy? What the fuck
just happened? And it's like superquick in the Bama ends. I could
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you're like you said, the commercialsbest part of all. We're talking
more about the commercials than anything else. But overall, I would say Legacy
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of Terror and Fall more towards thenot as good as other episodes for me,
No, just okay, not great. The site of a shirtless Ericastrada
with the headdress and everything. Iliked, the guys dressed up in the
bird and the Jaguar costumes and theactual mummy itself. Okay, though I
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still don't get this whole. Iguess they meant the tallest contiguous staircase because
when he was talking about the talleststaircase in Chicago, I was like,
well, wait, year was theSerious Tower built, because it seems like
that or the Hancock Tower would havebeen the tallest staircase. But then when
they go to what is it,they go to Soldier Field or something.
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No, they go to the sportsarena. Oh, that's right. They
can't use the name of it.It's in the script, but they can't
use sports arena, sir. Thesports arena. When they go to the
sports arena, I was like,oh, I guess it's just a tall
staircase that's all together. It's asports arena, sir. Something that has
to have what fifty two steps?That's right, the sports arena has that.
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Oh that's sports a reading thing maybelaughs so fucking hard. When I
heard it, I was like,oh god, wow, really that bad?
Huh. Yeah, this episode's okay, But again it's on the lower
end of the spectrum. And Iwould say, at this point, demon
in Lace, I like that better. That seemed to hold together a little
better, and everything is better thanthe Demon and the Mummy. Yeah,
oh my god, go ahead skipthat. Sorry that we couldn't, but
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we have to be completests, youknow what I'm saying. That's right,
we have no choice. Well,Chris, when you're not dancing around in
a bird costume or playing a flute, where can people find you? When
I'm not dancing around in a birdcostumer playing a skin flute, I'm probably
over at the culture Cast talking aboutmovies with a rotating cavalcade of guests.
(31:42):
You are included in that group.It is June. It is a month
that we will be talking about summercamp horror movies. And my friend and
your friend in christ Jess Byard,helped me program that month. And guess
what her name starts with a JA. So that's just by our June.
So there you go. Wow,very fancy, very fancy, fancies fancy,
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but summer camp horror movies. Ifyou like horror movies, come on
down to the Culturecast. That isculturecast dot com culture with a K at
the beginning see in the middle.And you can also find me on a
little podcast that I do called Chroniclesfrom the Crypt with my buddy Mike Wallace,
where we talk about Tales from theCrypt, the horror anthology series from
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HBO. When you are not hereor dressed up in a bird costume,
where are you, Mike? Well, I really like to wear big golden
headdresses over my head when I'm notdoing that, Or I like to talk
with you and father alone about twilightZone from the mid eighties what we call
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Dreams for Sale, which is availableover at twilight Zone eighty five dot com.
Or I do a little podcast calledThe Projection Booth where every week we
talk about different movies kind of allover the map. Though people are asking
me to be a little bit morediverse with my movie selections. I would
have thought that that was the case, but apparently I'm not diverse enough.
You're diverse enough for me, Butwhat do I know. I just have
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to watch the weird movies you haveme on for speaking of, you can
find the Taking of Tiger Mountain revisitedepisode out there now I'm on it.
Thanks to John Walker for providing ourtheme music. Thanks to everybody for listening.
Please head on over to iTunes whereit can review the show. You
know, if we get a couplemore reviews, maybe it'll actually show up
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in the new and Notable section.Even though we've been doing the show for
what three years now, it seemslike, yeah, it's been a while.
I mean we're almost to the run, to the end of the run.
So you know what, fuck it. I don't care if anybody reviews
the show or not. If youdid, if you did, great,
If not, you know what,what, why are you listening and not
reviewing? Yeah, that's weird.That's I mean, it's worse than weird.
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It's low. It's just honest.Well, boy, you're just alienating
the rest of the people. Nextmonth, we're going to be back talking
about the final episode of the CoalCheck reboot, kind of because we'll also
be talking about some of the episodesthat didn't get made or released. Well
I guess they just didn't get made. And then we'll have one more discussion
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about quote unquote new Coal Check wherewe talk about an unused script that was
used for the X Files reboot.Man, this is going to be painful,
but that'll be two months after nextmonth, so look forward to that.
And you know what, nothing canbe worse than the Demon in the
mummy at this point. No,though, I'm almost curious about Crackle of
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Death, just to see how itcompares. You're a sadist. I am
so all night. That's why weget along so well. Oh, officially
the case was closed. They neverfound Andrews a payday. Oh I did
hear the pip. It was workingin a supermarket downstate. Nan Adsen was
dormant again, and I urge thathe be destroyed without his fifth sacrifice?
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Will he still rise up fifty twoyears from now? The police who found
me didn't seem to understand what Iwas talking about. They felt that nan
Odsen was a valuable museum piece andnothing more, just dead antiquity. We
all I know is I won't bearound fifty years from now for the millennium.
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Will you at a h
Among the philosophers, the great thinkers, and the common jewels of this world.
No question is more controversial than truth. Remarkable as it may seem,
I can attest that the following eventsdid occur, whether you believe them to
be true or not. That wasthe voice of reporter Carl Kolchak in the
Case that We Call a Legacy ofTerror. Directed by Don McDougall and written
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by Arthur Rowe. This episode droppedon February fourteenth, nineteen seventy five,
just in time for Valentine's Day,and a romantic lead. Eric Astrada definitely
fits the bill of quite a hunkany really not great actor right out of
the gate either a very disinterested gentlemanas they might say. I don't know
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if it comes across well enough thathe's supposed to be pretty much fucked up
through this episode, because that's whatit's supposed to be, But it doesn't
come off that way. No,And I have to say the mythology of
this episode confusing, Like even afterreading the script, I was still kind
of confused, even after going toWikipedia and trying to learn as much as
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I could about Quetza Quaddle and allthe other Aztec gods. Still not buying
exactly everything that going on, Nome either. Oh and by the way,
you're Mike White and I'm Chris dashyou. Yeah, And this is
the Colchack Tapes, your monthly lookat Carl Colechack and the show that we
call The night Stalker and possibly TVmovie that was put together from the pieces
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of two episodes that is quite possiblyone of the most bizarre things I've ever
seen. Without a doubt, TheDemon and the Mummy is something that no
one should be subjected to because ifyou've seen the original episodes, which if
you're listening to this right now youtotally have, like we have. It
is jarring, it's unsettling. Yes, it's so weird. And look they
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got Darren McGavin to record narration tomake it all fit together. But if
you've seen the two episodes Legacy ofTerror and Demon in Lace, you know
how they work on their own andwhen they are mushed together. And when
I mean mushed, I mean youknow how those cars they test them to
make sure that they like when theycrash, the airbags go off and they
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run like a miles an hour intoa concrete wall. That's what this is
like one episode is a concrete wall, the other one's the truck. They're
mashed together so poorly that it's likeshocking that anyone thought that was a good
idea. Yeah, in this worldof mashup culture, where we can have
an entire album of fifty cent rappingover the songs of Queen and it works
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really well, these two things donot go together, even though they've got
the same actors, the same characters, the same guy doing the voiceover for
both. Yeah, but let's savethat. And they aired consecutively when they
first aired. Well, let's savethat for a little bit later. Let's
talk about the basse episode bass episode. Yeah, sure, let's talk about
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Legacy of Terror. I think it'san interesting episode. Again, like you
said, the mythology is a littlestrange. I think the ending is probably
the worst part of the episode.In my opinion, it makes no sense.
And I'm going to ask you yourthoughts. Did you think the villain
zombie monono his eyes at the endwas intentional or they just let the camera
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sit on him too long. Iwas very curious about that. Yeah,
I'm airring on the side of theyleft the camera too on too long or
they didn't edit it tight enough.Yeah, I kind of think, oh,
they should have faded to black alittle bit sooner. I would agree
one percent, because you see hiseyes open and it's like, wait,
what, we are back into territorywhere we have scripts for this. So
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I managed to read the script ofit, and interestingly enough, this was
not called The Legacy of Terror outof the gate that was handwritten in on
the script. It was called ALord of the Smoking Mirror. That would
have been a better title. Yeah, I think so too. Very interestingly,
the script was originally written January tenth, nineteen seventy five, revisions January
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thirteenth, nineteen seventy five, andthere were a lot of things that happened
between when those last revisions were doneand when the episode actually aired, which
was a month later. There werewhole scenes that were cut out of there,
the whole idea of Carl reporting tothis hotel to please Vincenzo and Ron,
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and I loved what a dick Ronwas being at the hotel with him,
just like, oh, well,the clocksas eight fifteen and my watches
eight seventeen, and then Vincenzo justshutting him down. With well, why
don't we call Grant grandit Ship's libratory. Well, and I'll tell you what.
I really liked seeing them outside ofthe I and S offices. Yeah,
that was very nice because that's somethinglike that's a big complaint I have
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with this show is that the charactersof Vincenzo and Ron and Miss Emily honestly
feel like they're just trapped in theoffices. Let these people have a break,
for God's sakes, like they're justtrapped in there. Seeing them out
and about was kind of was kindof nice. I mean, it was
different. It was very nice tosee them though, if reserves. Ron
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kind of disappears once Colcheck, LikeColcheck arrives, he hears a police band
radio, He's like, oh,I gotta go. He comes back later
on, and I don't think Ron'shanging out, is he? No,
he's gone. Yeah, I don'tknow what's going on. Maybe he's at
home smoking his pipe. Yeah pipethat's supposed to make him look better talk
about when he goes. Yeah,my wife says it makes me look smarter.
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I was like, really, really, Ron, you gotta go for
that? Huh about that? Ron? Yeah, Yeah, you're not fooling
anybody. Pal. No, butthat whole thing of Colcheck coming back and
talking to the two military people andthe PR lady from the hotel that is
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completely changed in the script, whichI found interesting, really very very different
in the whole thing of Ericastrada comingin as this no nothing higher exec in
the hotel chain, which you know, felt very realistic. That the pr
lady is just like, I don'tknow how this guy got his job.
He doesn't know how to do hisjob. He's a complete moron, but
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nobody can touch him. I've reallyfelt for her in that position. Yeah.
Well, and you know, Imean it's it's pretty real to life.
I mean we've all heard about thator possibly experienced in ourselves. So
I can only hope that those peoplethat are in those positions will eventually get
sacrificed to an Aztec god. Yeahright, they'll disappear along with upper management.
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That's the crazy thing. Upper managementdisappears as well, because upper management
are the bad guys in this episode. Yeah, that is very strange.
The people that own the entire hotelchain are like the villains. Yeah,
but you don't even see them untilthe very end, which I thought was
a kind of a really not great. I didn't think that was a really
very good choice. Who are youthinking we're upper management in that? Andrews
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Okay, Pepe Torres, it's kindof up or not like superb as he's
middle level management one. Andrew's likethe owner of the hotel chain. And
he disappears at the end because Imean he disappears because he's the one trying
to sacrifice Pepe to Manono. Isit Manoo? I thought it had a
he had a weird name. It'sprobably not Minoo. But that's gonna that's
(08:16):
gonna upset at least one sci fiwriter, and I know he's gonna give
me shit on Facebook for it.So Nana Ninos, Yeah, match Manudo
Nutzen, Sure, match man Tau. I mean I even looked up Nan
Nutsen on Wikipedia and it was justlike, oh no, he seems like
a good guy. And then therewas like there was the bad guy that
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they talked about who was like thegod of night, and I was like,
okay, well it's probably him who'sactually no, no, it's Nan
Nutsen. He's supposed to be thatguy, like, really, okay,
Pepe. Just for folks listening isthe Eric Astrada character. And so the
whole gist of this is that theseAztecs are are living amongst us. They
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are doing human sacrifices every fifty twoyears to Nan Knutzen, who is going
to come back in twenty twenty sevenand I guess reclaim his throne or something.
So they've been doing this every fiftytwo years like clockwork. They make
four sacrifices of heroes or really importantpeople, and then the fifth sacrifice is
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somebody who voluntarily goes under the knife. So they have Peppe who has agreed
to do this, and he's goingto live his life as a king for
a year. Beforehand, his momwill be taken care of. And I
do like, right, I dolike that speech that he gives the col
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check towards the end where he's justlike listen, man, I probably would
have gotten wasted by the cops beforeI was twenty five. Anyway, what
am I saving myself for another jobas a box boy living with the old
lady? I got the year everybodyonce, but look I figured it this
way. Bet at the king fora night for a lifetime. Well,
(10:07):
it's you know, better to rulein heaven than serve and hell right exactly,
which I mean again, like,look, Eric Estrade is not the
problem with this episode. The problemwith this episode is just, I think
a general lack of understanding of makinga compelling mythology and also not really having
an interesting conclusion. The conclusion seemsreally kind of I wouldn't say dorky,
but it just doesn't work very well, and the investigation itself does not work
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for me. The two it's reallyreally rushed and bizarre. So normally we
have Colcheck visit at least two orthree people and get little bits of information
in order to put these things together, and in this one, he goes
to visit Sorrel Book, who mostpeople know as boss Hog from Dukes of
(10:52):
Hazzard. In this he's playing ataxidermist who has this weird thing about reporters
who describe taxidermy animals as being stuffed, and he really chafes under the hat.
WTF I don't understand, sure,because taxidermis are getting reported on all
the time. Yeah, there aretons of stories. I mean pretty much,
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you open up a newspaper any dayof the weekend, you're going to
see at least a handful of taxidermystories in there. Sure dah. They
need a really good PR person.They need the PR person who's running the
hotel, PR Tilly I think hername is, and she is doing a
good job. And I love howshe shuts down Cole check and the military
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guy Coal Checker, No, it'sVincenzo because they are over talking the military
woman, Captain Madge Timmins, andshe's just like, hey, let her
speak. She actually can talk,you know, And I was just like,
Wow, a blow for feminism finallyon this show. If she's so
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smart, then let her talk rightcorrect. It was. It's like,
and there's there's parts of this episodethat are good, that are interesting,
I think. Unfortunately, though,on a whole the episode suffers from what
I would deem at this point justwhat I come to expect from a cold
Chag episode. And I want totalk about those other two guys that I
mean, one guy gives Carl barelyany information, and he's supposed to be
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He's supposed to be somebody who he'snot like he's there's that whole thing like,
oh, the guy you want totalk to is on vacation. It's
a very frustrating scene. It's justlike, really, it's super weird.
The guy's like, well, whydon't you talk about these things in Mexico?
The industrial things in Mexico's like putwhere we're here? So like I
get what he was trying to dois like but like it's almost like he
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was trying to cover something up andit's like why so yeah, and then
you have the scene with the professor, which it's almost like basil exposition,
tell us everything about what we're notunderstanding in this episode. Please not to
be a stickler or anything, butI thought that all of this stuff would
have gone down in twenty twelve,not twenty twenty seven. And I thought
(13:05):
that the Mayan calendar was all,well, it's a different base than ours,
which is Base twelve. But Ican't remember what their basis, but
I thought that their whole thing was, oh, yeah, the world's going
to end in twenty twelve, andthat's why everybody, you know, that's
why John Cusack was saving the worldback then Base fifty two, sir.
Apparently according to Colcheck you know,which again is the same thing that we've
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seen in how many episodes now whereit's this whole these things happen in cycles,
and Colcheck is the only one thatfigures out that this thing is happening.
You know, this is our victorToomb's thing again. This is going
all the way back to the NightStrangler with this guy shows up every X
number of years and kills X numberof people, and I had to stop
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him before he kills the last one. Boy, Jeepers. Creepers isn't great,
isn't it. It's just that thatwhole trope is really played out.
This one was written by earth ARow, who wrote one of your favorite
episodes of the entire show, whichis The Energy Eater, where we've got
the the Greditor, the Native Americanbear Spirit, your friend, Matchi Mantau,
(14:18):
Matchi Manteu, Little Matchi Minito,which was another one of these combo
episodes where they took the Energy Eaterand Firefall and they made them into Crackle
of Death. So we're going tohave to go back and watch Crackle of
Death, and I can only imaginethat is going to be as terrible as
the Demon and the Mummy. ColdJackie's on the trail of two serial killers.
(14:43):
Kids. Are the police want himout of the way? Do you
want to take another trip of thepolice car, Colhack and the Killers one
in Dead in digging to get theimpression that Chicago. Darren McGannon is cold
(15:05):
Jack the night stalker in Demon andthe Money Next to You. I kind
of don't want to talk about it. It's so infuriating because it makes no
sense why. I mean, itmakes sense why it exists, but in
the form that it's presented, andit makes no sense, like it actually
doesn't make a look of sense.So you take the beginning of Demon and
(15:26):
Lace, which we talked about lastmonth, and if folks want to go
back and listen to that episode,I would highly recommend it, because otherwise
you might not understand the rest ofthis discussion. It starts with that,
and then we take Legacy of Terrorand we put it right in the middle,
and then we end with Demon andLace, and there are just these
(15:48):
weird little mentions of the case fromthe first part in the second part,
and then the end of it,Oh my god, the end where they
try to wrap up both of thestories at the same time. What the
fuck, dude, It doesn't work. Like, look, Demon and Lace
and Legacy of Terror are just okayepisodes on their own. But man,
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when you mash them together, whothe cracks? The cracks show and then
some and yeah, trying to putthem together in an ending is just they're
like the themes aren't even the same. Like, I guess they're both ancient
evils, but m I feel likeI could rewrite this to make it work
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and maybe even reuse the footage,But the way that it is now,
I mean, so you're right,you've got two ancient evils. The demon
almost looks as bad as the Mummyat the end. I mean, we've
got both of these like kind ofHong Kong type, you know, creatures
at the end here, And it'slike, okay, maybe you say that
they are working together. Recast thiswhole Mesopotamian thing of demon and lace as
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being more of an Aztec thing.Who's going to know that we're looking at,
you know, Samerian glyphs on thething rather than whatever the Aztecs we're
using. Go ahead and just saythat he got this tablet somewhere in Mexico
or something, and bring those twomonsters together, make them either the same
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monster, or say that they workin conjunction with one another. One possesses
the living, the other will possessthe dead in order to make the stuff
cohes. But then even the waythat they do those two stories, in
the way that they chunk them up, it's like, every once in a
while during the Mummy episode, theLegacy of Terror colcheck will be like,
(17:44):
oh, yeah, remember those threedead guys from earlier, And they even
have that weird insert shot where it'slike a picture of a guy we've never
seen before, and then two imagegrabs basically from the earlier in the episode,
and they just throw it into theLegacy of Terror section and it's like,
don't forget about these guys. They'regoing to come back eventually. Yeah.
I felt very much like the whatdoes it enter the Dragon? Oh,
(18:07):
where it's just like his head onlike a wooden stick that someone's holding
in front of their face, orit's like taped on a mirror. It
feels so cheap. It feels socheap and poorly done. Look, this
is Look, I don't want tobelittle or bemoan anyone, but it is
a hack job. It is ahack job in the hackiest of senses.
Look, here's the thing. Itwas aired as part of a you know
it's a TV movie, so it'san hour and forty minutes. And the
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version that I watched that you providedwas part of a cool check marathon,
So it's like, but why doyou have to pad it out? Did
you not air these that's the question. Did they not air these two episodes
separately? Because if you aired themseparately and you have this, then you've
seen the same stories once for Legacy, once for Demon and Lace, and
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then you've seen them together as onewhole piece. So you've seen the same
stories essentially twice. My favorite thingabout watching The Demon and the Mummy was
watching the commercials from Sci Fi Networkfrom what every year that was agreed,
that made it, that made itworth it, Walter Cane, egg shilling,
the Star Trek albums. I wasso happy, or what is it?
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a commercial that stan Lee will behosting a Marvel Marathon. I'm just like,
Okay, what the hell are theygoing to show? I mean,
it sounds like they were going toshow the Doctor Strange TV movie. Are
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they going to show old episodes ofthe Nicholas Hammond Spider Man and the Bill
Bixby Incredible Hulk? I mean,what are they going to do on the
Marvel Marathon circle? Whatever year?This was? Well, the show Captain
America also is what it looked like? Oh yeah, that's right, I
forgot about that. Yeah, itwas kind of bizarre that this was like
a thing that was being aired onsci fi. But at the same time,
(20:44):
the commercials were the best part,without a doubt. I mean,
the way that they hacked up thatJackie Vernon section and that whole tuna fish
thing was gone. And did younotice that they got ron Jack Renage to
record a new line as well duringthat section that we're talking about with the
pipe he goes You told Colchack towrap up the story on the campus deaths,
and I was like, oh,okay, some of that hot hot
(21:07):
adr coming in to help out withthe cohesiveness of the story. Now right,
it's been seven days since the professionalfootball player was killed. Okay,
thanks, thanks off screen voice fortelling us what went on. You're about
as dense as Captain Joe Siska.Okay, good, we're tying the two
police officers together. Can you imagineif they try to do something like this
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nowadays? I mean, have theydone something like this nowadays? No,
that's my point. Can you imagineif they try to do something like this,
like can you imagine them taking saysomething that's hot right now? Imagine
them taking season eight of Game ofThrones and cutting all eight episodes into one
episode. Oh trust me, they'rethey're working on a fan at it right
(21:52):
now fan edit dot Org. I'msure they're going to do that, and
they're going to rearrange stuff in orderto take out if there was any mad
At tension, to take that rightout of there. Well, that's been
the whole show from the get go. But I mean that's the same thing.
It's that same idea where it's like, you can't get away with this
because it's real bad. No amountof talented writing and editing and adr and
(22:15):
can change that. These episodes havenothing to do with one another. What
they should have possibly done, otherthan the stuff that I've already outlined,
is to go back to the famousfamily ties thing when Michael J. Fox
was out being busy and do afucking clip show and just you know,
it's Mallory and you know, momand dad and they're sitting around and I
(22:38):
can't remember the other sister's name atTina Yethers and they start talking about things
and it's like remember that time whenAlex did this, And then they do
a clip show and it's just like, okay, great, go for it.
I mean, this reminds me ofthe Cage the Star Trek pilot where
they oh yeah, where they tookthose things the pilot and they put them
(23:00):
into another episode. But with thatit kind of actually worked because it's like,
we're presenting evidence and there's enough ofa story here to actually make sense
of this. That's the best comparisonthe cage. You're right, that actually
is the best comparison, because otherwise, I mean, the most funny things
for me were the things that theywere inserting to desperately try to tie these
(23:23):
together. That weird moment where Colchackgives us vo and there's an insert shot
of the typewriter and he goes memoto myself, have lunch with writer Roslin
Winter tomorrow campus coffee shop. AndI was just like what or that?
Did you freak out when the episodestarted again? Because they reused footage from
(23:47):
the opening of the show. Yeah, it was like, what the hell
is going on? Right? Iwas like, did it just end and
I didn't notice? No? Yeah, And again like that's the problem with
trying to do this with a TVshow that is a one hour show without
a mythology is that you just makingfucking messes. It's like you're just it's
like you're putting a finger in ahole, but the water coming in,
(24:08):
and like four other holes open upwith water. It's like you can't stop
all of this at once, andit's just God, it's just like it
goes from bad to worse to justlike just turn it off, just just
just stop. Stop. He's deadalready, Like that's really what this felt
like. They're just beating it todeath and looked like these two episodes apart
aren't terrible, but God, theDemon in the moment together is absolute garbage.
(24:32):
It's garbage. I gotta talk aboutthat end the end of Demon in
the Mummy. So you've got Carlgiven vo at the end of both of
these, you know, or we'llactually see Carl giving you know, the
final wrap up in these episodes andinstead of just redoing that and having him
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wrap both of those and by thetime we've you know, we are rapping
Demon in lace, which is nowthe end of that comes after the end
of the Legacy of Terror, becausebecause the end of Legacy of Terror happens
like halfway through the fucking movie,which again super weird, super weird.
But then their weird decision to notgive Carl the full voiceover and say,
(25:18):
okay, here's what happened with himin Lace and here's what happened with Legacy
of Terror. Instead, rather thanhim saying I hear that Pepe became a
box boy, they cut in Pepegoing I could become a box boy,
and it's like what okay? Thesecurity for US insisted on calling the Chicago
Police press charges against me, butthey found a sudden surprising resistance from doctor
(25:44):
c. Evans Spade, who claimedthe tablet had been broken accidentally. And
another thing, did I tell youPeppy had not been found? Well?
Rosalind discovered not only the clue tohis disappearance, but Pepe, what am
I saving myself for another job?Is a box boy? What the fuck
just happened? And it's like superquick in the Bama ends. I could
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become a box That's all folks.Next on sci Fi, More Ways to
make Special Effects cookbooks are Angels amongUs by the new Time Life series.
Oh my god, I'm surprised therewasn't an advertisement for Sightings. Next at
Night, Oh man, I lovedSightings. I loved the Time Life Aliens
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books that they had, and theyhad the one guy I don't know if
you remember these, But they hada guy who was first he was a
skeptic, and his buddy was tryingto sell them the book. Every time
the guy would be like, wellwhat happened, and the other dude to
be like, read the book.Well, there just might be something to
it. Ben Randall, commenting onTime Life's popular series and the mysteries of
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the unanlays been a little curious aboutunexplained phenomena because of personal experiences. I
mean, well, like, forexample, can you sense when something's about
to happen? Oh yeah, Imean everyone's a little psychic, But what
about UFOs? I don't know.Lots of people swear they've seen them,
ever experienced deja vu? Sort oflike I went into this old nineteenth century
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farmhouse and I just knew I'd beenthere before in another life. I'm not
ready for that. I'm ready forthis mystic places. It's from Time Life,
talks about things like the NASCAR byaswere they run ways for alien spaceships?
And did those aliens inter breathe withthe ancient Peruvians? Did they read
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the book? Read about the medievalwarriors who appeared before Stephen Jenkins in nineteen
thirty six, Dan, he sawhim again thirty eight years later. That
true. Read the book. Readabout Alistair Crowley and his bride. They
spent a honeymoon in the King's chamberof the Great Pyramid. What happened?
Read the book? Read about cyrusteeth. Believe that people live in the
(27:55):
center of the earth. Admiral Bertlooked into it. Know what he found?
I know? Read the book.Read Mystic Places. It's yours free
for ten days. If you keepit. Other volumes will follow, one
about every other month. You'll receivepsychic powers, followed by psychic voyages and
phantom encounters. Every volume written byexperts. They give you all the information
(28:15):
so you can decide for yourself.I've decided I'm ready to order the books
and the food waiter. And thenthey had a second commercial where it was
a couple and they were on vacationand this dude, the skeptic from the
first commercial shows up and starts tellingstories and they're like, well, what
happened? He's like, read thebook? You think what an incantation?
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Native Americans believe there's a spiritual energyhere, do you well? I am
intrigued with Mystic Places from some ofmy reading. How have you talking about
time Life's captivating series Mysteries of theUnknown Places? Not my thing but a
(29:02):
snarci of cloud. Then a paranormalexperience has really started. Like what read
the book? Read about the strangevoyage of Cleopatra's needle, a sixty eight
four pillar dedicated to what happens.Read the book, Read Mystic Places.
It's yours free for ten days.Keep it and other volumes will follow,
one about every other month, includingpsychic powers than psychic voyages and dreams,
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and reading each is an unbiased presentation, so you can draw your own conclusions.
I'm getting psyched up about this psychicbusiness when I get tickets for the
Sacred Earth tour. Oh, we'llget the tickets and the books. Yeah,
you're like you said, the commercialsbest part of all. We're talking
more about the commercials than anything else. But overall, I would say Legacy
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of Terror and Fall more towards thenot as good as other episodes for me,
No, just okay, not great. The site of a shirtless Ericastrada
with the headdress and everything. Iliked, the guys dressed up in the
bird and the Jaguar costumes and theactual mummy itself. Okay, though I
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still don't get this whole. Iguess they meant the tallest contiguous staircase because
when he was talking about the talleststaircase in Chicago, I was like,
well, wait, year was theSerious Tower built, because it seems like
that or the Hancock Tower would havebeen the tallest staircase. But then when
they go to what is it,they go to Soldier Field or something.
(30:33):
No, they go to the sportsarena. Oh, that's right. They
can't use the name of it.It's in the script, but they can't
use sports arena, sir. Thesports arena. When they go to the
sports arena, I was like,oh, I guess it's just a tall
staircase that's all together. It's asports arena, sir. Something that has
to have what fifty two steps?That's right, the sports arena has that.
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Oh that's sports a reading thing maybelaughs so fucking hard. When I
heard it, I was like,oh god, wow, really that bad?
Huh. Yeah, this episode's okay, But again it's on the lower
end of the spectrum. And Iwould say, at this point, demon
in Lace, I like that better. That seemed to hold together a little
better, and everything is better thanthe Demon and the Mummy. Yeah,
oh my god, go ahead skipthat. Sorry that we couldn't, but
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we have to be completests, youknow what I'm saying. That's right,
we have no choice. Well,Chris, when you're not dancing around in
a bird costume or playing a flute, where can people find you? When
I'm not dancing around in a birdcostumer playing a skin flute, I'm probably
over at the culture Cast talking aboutmovies with a rotating cavalcade of guests.
(31:42):
You are included in that group.It is June. It is a month
that we will be talking about summercamp horror movies. And my friend and
your friend in christ Jess Byard,helped me program that month. And guess
what her name starts with a JA. So that's just by our June.
So there you go. Wow,very fancy, very fancy, fancies fancy,
(32:07):
but summer camp horror movies. Ifyou like horror movies, come on
down to the Culturecast. That isculturecast dot com culture with a K at
the beginning see in the middle.And you can also find me on a
little podcast that I do called Chroniclesfrom the Crypt with my buddy Mike Wallace,
where we talk about Tales from theCrypt, the horror anthology series from
(32:28):
HBO. When you are not hereor dressed up in a bird costume,
where are you, Mike? Well, I really like to wear big golden
headdresses over my head when I'm notdoing that, Or I like to talk
with you and father alone about twilightZone from the mid eighties what we call
(32:51):
Dreams for Sale, which is availableover at twilight Zone eighty five dot com.
Or I do a little podcast calledThe Projection Booth where every week we
talk about different movies kind of allover the map. Though people are asking
me to be a little bit morediverse with my movie selections. I would
have thought that that was the case, but apparently I'm not diverse enough.
You're diverse enough for me, Butwhat do I know. I just have
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to watch the weird movies you haveme on for speaking of, you can
find the Taking of Tiger Mountain revisitedepisode out there now I'm on it.
Thanks to John Walker for providing ourtheme music. Thanks to everybody for listening.
Please head on over to iTunes whereit can review the show. You
know, if we get a couplemore reviews, maybe it'll actually show up
(33:35):
in the new and Notable section.Even though we've been doing the show for
what three years now, it seemslike, yeah, it's been a while.
I mean we're almost to the run, to the end of the run.
So you know what, fuck it. I don't care if anybody reviews
the show or not. If youdid, if you did, great,
If not, you know what,what, why are you listening and not
reviewing? Yeah, that's weird.That's I mean, it's worse than weird.
(33:58):
It's low. It's just honest.Well, boy, you're just alienating
the rest of the people. Nextmonth, we're going to be back talking
about the final episode of the CoalCheck reboot, kind of because we'll also
be talking about some of the episodesthat didn't get made or released. Well
I guess they just didn't get made. And then we'll have one more discussion
(34:22):
about quote unquote new Coal Check wherewe talk about an unused script that was
used for the X Files reboot.Man, this is going to be painful,
but that'll be two months after nextmonth, so look forward to that.
And you know what, nothing canbe worse than the Demon in the
mummy at this point. No,though, I'm almost curious about Crackle of
(34:45):
Death, just to see how itcompares. You're a sadist. I am
so all night. That's why weget along so well. Oh, officially
the case was closed. They neverfound Andrews a payday. Oh I did
hear the pip. It was workingin a supermarket downstate. Nan Adsen was
dormant again, and I urge thathe be destroyed without his fifth sacrifice?
(35:07):
Will he still rise up fifty twoyears from now? The police who found
me didn't seem to understand what Iwas talking about. They felt that nan
Odsen was a valuable museum piece andnothing more, just dead antiquity. We
all I know is I won't bearound fifty years from now for the millennium.
(35:28):
Will you at a h
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