November 25, 2019 • 23 mins
We discuss the last filmed episode of Kolchak The Night Stalker, The Sentry. It's a tale of a lizard man who lives deep in the recesses of the earth that causes havoc (and death) at a massive data warehouse.
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Hm, this is one story.I mean, I get to file in
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person, so I'll have to talkfast because it's after me. Claustrophobia has
long been a part of the humanexperience, from Lacrole magnan follow up to
Freud. So if you ever happento find yourself underground, I'm deep underground,
don't linger in the shadows. Thatwas the voice of reporter Carl Coolcheck
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in the Case that We call TheCentury. It was written by al Ford
Neil and John Huff, directed bySeymour Robi, and aired March twenty eighth,
nineteen seventy five. I am MikeWhite, and I am joined as
always by Chris ashe You're actually joinedby a giant man in a rubber giant
monster suit. Holy shit, Holyit is right emphasis on the ship.
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So The Century is the last filmedepisode of Colchack the night Stalker. So
this is We're not to the endof the podcast yet, but this is
the end of an era. Chrisand I have to say, I'm a
little sad. Yeah, I'm alittle sad too. I remember the evening
where you kind of put the feelersout for anyone wanting to do a Col
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check podcast and I at the timethat would have been the second podcast that
I was on other than my own. And I mean I remember I owned
the cole Chack DVDs from a longtime ago. My dad bought him for
me because there was a show heliked. When I guess my dad probably
would have been little younger than Iam now. But it is crazy that
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we've kind of come all the wayto the end, like here it is
the final episode of the show,not of us. We heard about this
one when we were doing Mister RI n G and talking to John Hoff
who was the co writer of thatepisode, and I remember him saying that
by the time they were shooting this, a lot of people had checked out.
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And I can't say that that necessarilycomes through too much in the episode
you made mention of the rubber suit. Yeah, that could look a little
bit better. I kind of wishthey had gone a little more Gorn from
Star Trek because I would have Gorna little bit, or even like the
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last episode that we talked about whereit was Molder and Scully meet the wear
Monster that two thousand whatever technology.But that was a sweet costume that Murray
was wearing yeah, but this one, it kind of feels like something that
Ultraman would have thought. I thinkthey really did themselves a service by keeping
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this thing in the dark as muchas they possibly could. It reminds you
of the Star Trek episode with theHorta where it's like all underground and they're
touching the thing's eggs. That's whatit reminded me of. It is a
bummer that this is the final episodeof the show that was filmed, because
it's not good. Well. Thisepisode reminded me a lot of the Matchamendo.
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The whole idea of the building thatis being built in having troubles because
it's being plagued by supernatural forces.It reminded me of another one too,
and I'm sure as we talk it'llcome to me, but yeah, I
was just like, okay, yeah, it feels like very familiar territory in
this one. They're going for thewhole hollow Earth lizard people kind of thing.
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I mean, we've had so manydifferent types of creatures and this one
is playing a little bit into thatbecause we've got this storage facility that is
what ten thousand feet underground, whichI'm surprised that you can do that so
close to Chicago, it feels likeit would be kind of a little dangerous.
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I can't see the bedrock being thatstrong around there, But I might
be overthinking this. I think you'redoing the job that the riders should have
done. Yeah, it's it's thisweird kind of alluding to lizard people underneath
the ground, lizard people in thesewers, the mole people, like,
it's very much in that vein,and then you even have like the eggs
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at the end, which just endsup being like a very obvious trope to
go to. It's just a misunderstoodmonster trying to get its eggs. It's
okay, he just wants his machete. Yeah, exactly. Wow, have
you seen that movie? Oh yeah, that's the only Jason movie I've seen
all the way through other than Freddieversus Jason. It's okay, Oh god,
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it's a great line. It is. It is a great line.
It's a really weird thing to havea Cold Tack episode where you see the
monster and you almost wish you hadn'tbecause it is just a guy in a
clearly rubber suit, and um,there's a there's a YouTube series or a
YouTube channel called um Tested with AdamSavage, and he talks about how like,
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when you make costumes, you shouldnot put the support for the head
of the costume on your own headbecause it looks weird when you move around.
And that's clearly what is going onwith this costume is the support mechanics
for the head of the creature ison the actor's head, and so it's
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like wopping around when they run,which is even more distracting. The shots
of it when it is in silhouettecoming towards the camera and you hear the
growling, I'm like, okay,that's good. But then yeah, as
you see more, Oh, Iknow which one it was. It was
the one with the Primal Man andthe fight with the Primal Man underground towards
the end. That's also what thisepisode reminded me of. That makes sense
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too again because it's set underground,I mean setting things underground kind of a
compound. Yeah, and then alsothe whole idea of like, oh,
we are reviving this thing and pissingit off. And Primal Scream was the
name of that one, and youknow, it was like, hey,
we I don't understand this facility thatthey're at because most of it are these
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really nice concrete walls, but thenthere are caves that are part of this
thing, and it's like, okay, like all right, we're gonna build
it down to like level N.But after that, fuck it, we
found natural case We're just going toleave those there. It's like what is
going on here? And there's thisweird story too. The scientist who finds
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these eggs, he has this wholeweird backstory about how he found these rocks
in Utah and was sending them backto his lab, but then another scientist
wrote his name on the box andso they got sent to him and he
took all the credit and I'm justwaiting for that to pay off, and
it never pays off well. AndAlbert Paulson, who is Ecuadorian, is
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given the task of trying to doa German Austrian accent. I think he
was maybe Russian because he's talking aboutRussia, but yeah, who knows.
His character's name is doctor Verheyden,which you know it's about as German as
German can get, I guess inthis show. And his character is really
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annoying and not a character you wantto spend too much time with because he's
poorly written and all he does essentiallyscream at Cole Jay or anyone for that
matter. This episode was strange tome and that I didn't feel the act
breaks as much as I've felt otherepisodes. It really felt like this whole
thing was of a piece, andit moved very nice once we got into
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the story proper, and I likedKathy Brown as Lieutenant Irene Lamont and how
she was playing the reporters against eachother, and the way that she was
using her looks and things and like, oh boys, you don't want to
have me busted back to traffic andall this kind of stuff. I like
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the way that she was manipulating thesystem. First time we've actually seen a
female cop of any sort of rankin this episode, in this whole series,
which is unfortunate because she's the bestpart of this episode. She's great,
right, Oh yeah, Kathy Brownis great in this episode. Almost
makes you forget about the guy inthe lizard suit most you'll notice, I
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said, almost, what's worse thisor the headless biker this? Wow?
This because the suit is just thisis look we talked about it. What
feels like a lifetime ago but rememberthe Werewolf episode. How can I forget?
You bring that up almost every episode. Well, it's because it was
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just so bad. The makeup onEric Braden was just so bad it's kind
of hard to forget. And that'swhat this smacks of. It smacks of
that, just like, really itknows that it's cheeseball and cornball to the
max, and it doesn't fight it. And I'm normally okay with that,
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but it is it's even a littlemuch for this show. I don't know
I can actually look past that becausethe rest of the episode is so strong.
To me, I like the wholeinvestigative angle that's going on the way
that Carl is figuring this stuff outthe way that I don't buy that Tom
Bosley as Jack Flaherty knew that Carlwas something other than a Nickel salesman from
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Albuquerque. I don't buy that whenhe says like, oh, yeah,
I knew and I was just stringinghim along. I think Bosley's lying there.
I don't think he's that smart.I'd like that he's finding information out
from that guy, he's finding informationout from the union guy that he is
pretending to be a doctor and we'vegot, speaking of Star Trek, a
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guy who I mostly know from StarTrek in the Twilight Zone as our head
doctor there. John Hoyt does DoctorBeckwith. I'd like that. There's actually
a little bit more in the scriptwhen it comes to that autopsy scene,
and that autopsy scene, I haveto say, is not handled very well
as far as the direction goes,because they actually they have to stick in
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that line where he turns off DoctorBeckwith turns off the microphone and then talks
amongst the other doctors, and thenshe has to turn around and say,
well, I guess he doesn't wantus to hear this stuff. And it's
like, okay, I understand what'sgoing on here, but it's really super
subtle what's happening as far as himturning off that microphone. But anyway,
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there's a little bit more in thescript, which is he turns to cole
Check and ask for a certain typeof saw, and cole Check looks down
at all of these instruments and hasno fucking idea what it is and hands
something to the guy and the guygoes, this isn't a Geiger saw or
whatever. This isn't even a saw, and that's when cole Check does say,
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well it's Wednesday, I'm gonna gohit a bucket of balls and runs
out of the room. Yeah theLord, I will. I will say
this, but I did not dislikethis episode. I just can't bring myself
to overlook the man in the suit, which is me being a little narrow
minded. One of the weird kindof idiosyncrasies of this episode is Andrew Robinson,
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who plays Scorpio in Dirty Harry.He's in this episode. No,
he's not, okay, because Ithought that I saw him and I saw
on IMDb that it says he's inhere, but it was just some guy
who looks like him. Yeah.I asked him about it, and he's
just like, no, I've neverbeen in Colchack okay, because like I
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kept looking at the guy being like, that looks like him, but it's
not. So IMDb, get yourshit together, because it's it says he's
on there, and I swear togod that guy looks just like him.
Well, and then you get theguys on Facebook who are just like,
oh, happy birthday to Andrew Robinsonand here's all these pictures here. He
is, as you know, theguy from d Space nine in this role,
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in this role, in this role, and here he is at Colchack
and it's like, no, I'msorry, but that's not him. Yeah,
but I am not crazy. Itdoes look like it. No,
it totally looks like him, moreso than anyone who's not him should look
like him. Well, if peopleare looking, where is he at,
he's he's what the what's the guy'sname? The guy that, like Colecheck
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calls on the phone? Right,oh right, yeah, the guy who
ends up shipping him to the placekind of looks like him. It does
look like him a lot. Ican see that. It's like, IMDb,
don't you just don't let people assignactors to ship that they're not in,
Like, come on, I likethat whole idea of them shipping him
to the place that's kind of goodtoo, feels very Scooby Doo. Like.
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The end of the episode feels veryScooby Doo. I like that this
episode starts kind of in C two, where we've got Carl on the run
from the creature and the whole like, I might not be able to file
this one in person, so hereI go. I bet you're wondering how
I got here, Like, that'swhat that help. It's very jj Abrams,
Like had that continued on? Likehad that been the like probably like
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the climax of the fourth out offifth five acts then continued on for like
another ten minutes. That's a jjAbrams. That's what he loves to do.
See Mission Impossible three for more ofthat. Yeah, exactly where it's
like two thirds of the movie isjust a flashback. I liked it,
like you said, I liked everythingunderground. I like how this being the
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final episode, we got to seeVincenzo again. We didn't get to see
Jack Grinnage. We didn't get tosee Miss Emily, which is unfortunate.
That newsroom is pretty empty. Yeah, it's almost like everybody left. And
by everyone, I mean the actualactors didn't want to be in the show
anymore. I mean, look,I can't I can't help but feel a
little melancholy towards the fact that thisis the final episode. It was really
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sad watching this the other day,and I was just like, oh,
there's no more to see, becauselook, you and I are used to
doing a podcast that can run infinitemI mean, the projection booth, the
Culture Cast will essentially run until eitherone of us are done and or probably
in my case dead, and solike they're going to run until they're done.
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But this is the first time I'vedone a podcast where there is a
definitive this is the last of it, and that's it, and it is
it is, it's it's it's sad. It is sad in a way.
I mean, we could start writingColcheck fan fiction if we wanted, and
then just read stories to each other. What about cole check slash fiction?
Oh, Tony, talk to me, big man, talk to me,
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big daddy. Don't get your ascidin an uproar, and then Tony unzipped
his pants. Oh my god.I also really kind of feel sad that
the way the show ends is withcol Check Scooby Doo like Shaggy get out
of this tunnel at the end.It's not that it's not a high note.
It's just like a really dorky noteto go out on. At this
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point, they knew that was it, but I mean, they still had
a couple episodes written, so theyweren't planning at the beginning that this is
how Carl's going to go out Anddid the monster kill Irene Lamont. You
know, that's a good question,because she just kind of disappears. They're
like all in that room, andthen the monster kool aid Man's its way
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through the wall twice. Hi God, I'm thinking they should have hired this
guy because he can dig through walls, and you know, he's like Charles
Brownson in The Great Escape. Sowhat I thought was going I thought there
was actually gonna be a twist inthis episode, and it was going to
turn out that it was just likea rival someone like fucking with them,
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and that it was going to bea person in a suit. And I
would have gotten away with it doif it weren't for you meddling kids.
How about if he takes away LieutenantIrene Lamont like the beast taking you know,
Faye ray away. Oh, likemakes her his like dungeon bride.
Yeah, I'm okay with that.Is that headcannon? Now, Irene Lamont
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is just underground, being just likeimpregnated by this weird lizard monster. I've
seen shit like that in an AllenMoore comic. It's pretty weird. It
seems kind of hr Geiger to me, Like, especially if the lizard was
just like implanting eggs down her throator something. Wow, this took a
turn. It did for the worst. That was worse than the slash fiction.
Thinking about that. Yeah, thinkingabout Irene Lamont being forcibly raped by
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this monster, it's awful. Ican see her like, h Dallas and
alien, ye kill me where youmade in the deleted scene where he's being
turned into an egg. Oh Jesus, that's not Cannon Goldchack just goes and
murders her, because we all knowColdchack is okay with murder. Yeah,
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and he had that torch, hecould have just torched her right there.
I don't understand why Colchack didn't justgive the beast its eggs back, right
and he's just like no, Hegrabs the eggs and like hauls them to
the end of his hallway with torchesand then he's just like swinging at it
like I didn't. The other issueI have with this episode is normally,
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when we have coal Check facing themonster at the end, it's very much
understood what he's trying to achieve infacing the monster. I don't know what
he was trying to achieve facing themonster at the end of this episode.
Right, it's not like he hada magic stick to poke him with.
No, right, he could havejust given the creature its eggs back.
It could have just left the eggsin the middle of the hallway and then
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ran someplace. Well, that's mypoint, like the eggs could have been
taken out of the which again,also, nut's not overlook the fact that
this creature can break through walls butcan't open up a metal locker to get
its eggs back. No, you'regetting crazy. Well no, I'm just
using logic. There's a lot ofstuff in this episode that's really dorky and
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goofy, and it's coal Check,so it's kind of to be expected.
But even I have a hard timeoverlooking some of the stuff in this episode,
like huge like logic jumps, likeget like logic, like gaps in
logic. I just sometimes I can'tget on board with him. Yeah,
I would say this isn't at thetop of the game, no, but
again, it's just it is.The disappointment of it all is that this
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is that final shot of cold Checkrunning through the tunnels. Is the last
time we see Darren McGavin in thatrole. That's right. Sad aside from
that one time in the two thousandand six show Oh Shut your Face where
he shows up, it just kindof stands there. Well, let me
ask you, when do we wantto talk about what our favorite episode of
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the show was? On this episodeor on the next one? No,
I think on the next one.I mean, so we can either do
one of two things. One istalk about the unproduced scripts and I think
we were talking about having Richer backfor that chieh. Yes, we can
do that, and that can bethe end of things. Or we can
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do that and we can do anotherthing where we kind of wrap some stuff
up and talk about our favorite episodes. We sing memories in my be a
perfect time because I think Kats iscoming out right around that time. And
then we can talk a little bitabout the books if we happen to get
to some of those things. Butwell, that would take us through the
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end of the year. That wouldtake us right through the end of the
year, and then we start freshin January with our new podcast venture.
I think we do that, Okay, So yeah, so come on back
folks next month. We were talkingabout the Eve of Terror, the get
of Belisle, and the executioners,especially if we can find that executioner script.
Somebody on Twitter messaged Richard and I'mstill waiting for him to actually get
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the script and shoot that over.So come on folk back. That a
script called The Get of Belisle didnot get made into an episode is a
missed opportunity. I'm still waiting thetitle. I'm still waiting to know what
Belisle gets? What does Beliet?What are you getting? What does this
get? What is the Get ofBelisle? I'm sorry, I just don't
get you. Yeah, what isget get? What? What are you
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getting? Yeah? I want tothank John Walker for doing our theme song,
and I want to think all ofyou find people for listening this long.
I think we've been doing this forthree years now. If you have
been here since the beginning, thankyou so much. Maybe somebody can tell
me how many times Chris has complainedabout the Werewolf episode. Maybe someone can
tell me how many times people justignore the fact that I'm on this episode
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of this show. How many timespeople ignore the fact that I'm on this
show. I know what's going tohappen now as far as the authorities are
concerning the event, so they Priltwentieth and twenty first, will never have
occurred. They're gonna tell me thatif I ever breathe a word of this,
they're gonna break me like a strongman. What about the century was
eggs hatch in the warm, darkbank dampness of its nesting place. Who
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knows? Maybe the government will findthe nest, maybe they won't. Who'll
probably never know. But if you'reon a subway or a pedestrian tunnel underneath
the ballpark and you think you hearsomething moving in the walls, it may
not be your imagination. Take myadvice, don't walk. Run to the
nearest exit poll. Pop up thepo
Hm, this is one story.I mean, I get to file in
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person, so I'll have to talkfast because it's after me. Claustrophobia has
long been a part of the humanexperience, from Lacrole magnan follow up to
Freud. So if you ever happento find yourself underground, I'm deep underground,
don't linger in the shadows. Thatwas the voice of reporter Carl Coolcheck
(01:07):
in the Case that We call TheCentury. It was written by al Ford
Neil and John Huff, directed bySeymour Robi, and aired March twenty eighth,
nineteen seventy five. I am MikeWhite, and I am joined as
always by Chris ashe You're actually joinedby a giant man in a rubber giant
monster suit. Holy shit, Holyit is right emphasis on the ship.
(01:33):
So The Century is the last filmedepisode of Colchack the night Stalker. So
this is We're not to the endof the podcast yet, but this is
the end of an era. Chrisand I have to say, I'm a
little sad. Yeah, I'm alittle sad too. I remember the evening
where you kind of put the feelersout for anyone wanting to do a Col
(01:56):
check podcast and I at the timethat would have been the second podcast that
I was on other than my own. And I mean I remember I owned
the cole Chack DVDs from a longtime ago. My dad bought him for
me because there was a show heliked. When I guess my dad probably
would have been little younger than Iam now. But it is crazy that
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we've kind of come all the wayto the end, like here it is
the final episode of the show,not of us. We heard about this
one when we were doing Mister RI n G and talking to John Hoff
who was the co writer of thatepisode, and I remember him saying that
by the time they were shooting this, a lot of people had checked out.
(02:38):
And I can't say that that necessarilycomes through too much in the episode
you made mention of the rubber suit. Yeah, that could look a little
bit better. I kind of wishthey had gone a little more Gorn from
Star Trek because I would have Gorna little bit, or even like the
(02:59):
last episode that we talked about whereit was Molder and Scully meet the wear
Monster that two thousand whatever technology.But that was a sweet costume that Murray
was wearing yeah, but this one, it kind of feels like something that
Ultraman would have thought. I thinkthey really did themselves a service by keeping
(03:19):
this thing in the dark as muchas they possibly could. It reminds you
of the Star Trek episode with theHorta where it's like all underground and they're
touching the thing's eggs. That's whatit reminded me of. It is a
bummer that this is the final episodeof the show that was filmed, because
it's not good. Well. Thisepisode reminded me a lot of the Matchamendo.
(03:42):
The whole idea of the building thatis being built in having troubles because
it's being plagued by supernatural forces.It reminded me of another one too,
and I'm sure as we talk it'llcome to me, but yeah, I
was just like, okay, yeah, it feels like very familiar territory in
this one. They're going for thewhole hollow Earth lizard people kind of thing.
(04:06):
I mean, we've had so manydifferent types of creatures and this one
is playing a little bit into thatbecause we've got this storage facility that is
what ten thousand feet underground, whichI'm surprised that you can do that so
close to Chicago, it feels likeit would be kind of a little dangerous.
(04:27):
I can't see the bedrock being thatstrong around there, But I might
be overthinking this. I think you'redoing the job that the riders should have
done. Yeah, it's it's thisweird kind of alluding to lizard people underneath
the ground, lizard people in thesewers, the mole people, like,
it's very much in that vein,and then you even have like the eggs
(04:48):
at the end, which just endsup being like a very obvious trope to
go to. It's just a misunderstoodmonster trying to get its eggs. It's
okay, he just wants his machete. Yeah, exactly. Wow, have
you seen that movie? Oh yeah, that's the only Jason movie I've seen
all the way through other than Freddieversus Jason. It's okay, Oh god,
(05:13):
it's a great line. It is. It is a great line.
It's a really weird thing to havea Cold Tack episode where you see the
monster and you almost wish you hadn'tbecause it is just a guy in a
clearly rubber suit, and um,there's a there's a YouTube series or a
YouTube channel called um Tested with AdamSavage, and he talks about how like,
(05:39):
when you make costumes, you shouldnot put the support for the head
of the costume on your own headbecause it looks weird when you move around.
And that's clearly what is going onwith this costume is the support mechanics
for the head of the creature ison the actor's head, and so it's
(05:59):
like wopping around when they run,which is even more distracting. The shots
of it when it is in silhouettecoming towards the camera and you hear the
growling, I'm like, okay,that's good. But then yeah, as
you see more, Oh, Iknow which one it was. It was
the one with the Primal Man andthe fight with the Primal Man underground towards
the end. That's also what thisepisode reminded me of. That makes sense
(06:24):
too again because it's set underground,I mean setting things underground kind of a
compound. Yeah, and then alsothe whole idea of like, oh,
we are reviving this thing and pissingit off. And Primal Scream was the
name of that one, and youknow, it was like, hey,
we I don't understand this facility thatthey're at because most of it are these
(06:46):
really nice concrete walls, but thenthere are caves that are part of this
thing, and it's like, okay, like all right, we're gonna build
it down to like level N.But after that, fuck it, we
found natural case We're just going toleave those there. It's like what is
going on here? And there's thisweird story too. The scientist who finds
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these eggs, he has this wholeweird backstory about how he found these rocks
in Utah and was sending them backto his lab, but then another scientist
wrote his name on the box andso they got sent to him and he
took all the credit and I'm justwaiting for that to pay off, and
it never pays off well. AndAlbert Paulson, who is Ecuadorian, is
(07:30):
given the task of trying to doa German Austrian accent. I think he
was maybe Russian because he's talking aboutRussia, but yeah, who knows.
His character's name is doctor Verheyden,which you know it's about as German as
German can get, I guess inthis show. And his character is really
(07:51):
annoying and not a character you wantto spend too much time with because he's
poorly written and all he does essentiallyscream at Cole Jay or anyone for that
matter. This episode was strange tome and that I didn't feel the act
breaks as much as I've felt otherepisodes. It really felt like this whole
thing was of a piece, andit moved very nice once we got into
(08:18):
the story proper, and I likedKathy Brown as Lieutenant Irene Lamont and how
she was playing the reporters against eachother, and the way that she was
using her looks and things and like, oh boys, you don't want to
have me busted back to traffic andall this kind of stuff. I like
(08:39):
the way that she was manipulating thesystem. First time we've actually seen a
female cop of any sort of rankin this episode, in this whole series,
which is unfortunate because she's the bestpart of this episode. She's great,
right, Oh yeah, Kathy Brownis great in this episode. Almost
makes you forget about the guy inthe lizard suit most you'll notice, I
(09:01):
said, almost, what's worse thisor the headless biker this? Wow?
This because the suit is just thisis look we talked about it. What
feels like a lifetime ago but rememberthe Werewolf episode. How can I forget?
You bring that up almost every episode. Well, it's because it was
(09:24):
just so bad. The makeup onEric Braden was just so bad it's kind
of hard to forget. And that'swhat this smacks of. It smacks of
that, just like, really itknows that it's cheeseball and cornball to the
max, and it doesn't fight it. And I'm normally okay with that,
(09:46):
but it is it's even a littlemuch for this show. I don't know
I can actually look past that becausethe rest of the episode is so strong.
To me, I like the wholeinvestigative angle that's going on the way
that Carl is figuring this stuff outthe way that I don't buy that Tom
Bosley as Jack Flaherty knew that Carlwas something other than a Nickel salesman from
(10:11):
Albuquerque. I don't buy that whenhe says like, oh, yeah,
I knew and I was just stringinghim along. I think Bosley's lying there.
I don't think he's that smart.I'd like that he's finding information out
from that guy, he's finding informationout from the union guy that he is
pretending to be a doctor and we'vegot, speaking of Star Trek, a
(10:33):
guy who I mostly know from StarTrek in the Twilight Zone as our head
doctor there. John Hoyt does DoctorBeckwith. I'd like that. There's actually
a little bit more in the scriptwhen it comes to that autopsy scene,
and that autopsy scene, I haveto say, is not handled very well
as far as the direction goes,because they actually they have to stick in
(10:54):
that line where he turns off DoctorBeckwith turns off the microphone and then talks
amongst the other doctors, and thenshe has to turn around and say,
well, I guess he doesn't wantus to hear this stuff. And it's
like, okay, I understand what'sgoing on here, but it's really super
subtle what's happening as far as himturning off that microphone. But anyway,
(11:18):
there's a little bit more in thescript, which is he turns to cole
Check and ask for a certain typeof saw, and cole Check looks down
at all of these instruments and hasno fucking idea what it is and hands
something to the guy and the guygoes, this isn't a Geiger saw or
whatever. This isn't even a saw, and that's when cole Check does say,
(11:41):
well it's Wednesday, I'm gonna gohit a bucket of balls and runs
out of the room. Yeah theLord, I will. I will say
this, but I did not dislikethis episode. I just can't bring myself
to overlook the man in the suit, which is me being a little narrow
minded. One of the weird kindof idiosyncrasies of this episode is Andrew Robinson,
(12:03):
who plays Scorpio in Dirty Harry.He's in this episode. No,
he's not, okay, because Ithought that I saw him and I saw
on IMDb that it says he's inhere, but it was just some guy
who looks like him. Yeah.I asked him about it, and he's
just like, no, I've neverbeen in Colchack okay, because like I
(12:24):
kept looking at the guy being like, that looks like him, but it's
not. So IMDb, get yourshit together, because it's it says he's
on there, and I swear togod that guy looks just like him.
Well, and then you get theguys on Facebook who are just like,
oh, happy birthday to Andrew Robinsonand here's all these pictures here. He
is, as you know, theguy from d Space nine in this role,
(12:45):
in this role, in this role, and here he is at Colchack
and it's like, no, I'msorry, but that's not him. Yeah,
but I am not crazy. Itdoes look like it. No,
it totally looks like him, moreso than anyone who's not him should look
like him. Well, if peopleare looking, where is he at,
he's he's what the what's the guy'sname? The guy that, like Colecheck
(13:07):
calls on the phone? Right,oh right, yeah, the guy who
ends up shipping him to the placekind of looks like him. It does
look like him a lot. Ican see that. It's like, IMDb,
don't you just don't let people assignactors to ship that they're not in,
Like, come on, I likethat whole idea of them shipping him
to the place that's kind of goodtoo, feels very Scooby Doo. Like.
(13:30):
The end of the episode feels veryScooby Doo. I like that this
episode starts kind of in C two, where we've got Carl on the run
from the creature and the whole like, I might not be able to file
this one in person, so hereI go. I bet you're wondering how
I got here, Like, that'swhat that help. It's very jj Abrams,
Like had that continued on? Likehad that been the like probably like
(13:54):
the climax of the fourth out offifth five acts then continued on for like
another ten minutes. That's a jjAbrams. That's what he loves to do.
See Mission Impossible three for more ofthat. Yeah, exactly where it's
like two thirds of the movie isjust a flashback. I liked it,
like you said, I liked everythingunderground. I like how this being the
(14:16):
final episode, we got to seeVincenzo again. We didn't get to see
Jack Grinnage. We didn't get tosee Miss Emily, which is unfortunate.
That newsroom is pretty empty. Yeah, it's almost like everybody left. And
by everyone, I mean the actualactors didn't want to be in the show
anymore. I mean, look,I can't I can't help but feel a
little melancholy towards the fact that thisis the final episode. It was really
(14:39):
sad watching this the other day,and I was just like, oh,
there's no more to see, becauselook, you and I are used to
doing a podcast that can run infinitemI mean, the projection booth, the
Culture Cast will essentially run until eitherone of us are done and or probably
in my case dead, and solike they're going to run until they're done.
(15:03):
But this is the first time I'vedone a podcast where there is a
definitive this is the last of it, and that's it, and it is
it is, it's it's it's sad. It is sad in a way.
I mean, we could start writingColcheck fan fiction if we wanted, and
then just read stories to each other. What about cole check slash fiction?
Oh, Tony, talk to me, big man, talk to me,
(15:26):
big daddy. Don't get your ascidin an uproar, and then Tony unzipped
his pants. Oh my god.I also really kind of feel sad that
the way the show ends is withcol Check Scooby Doo like Shaggy get out
of this tunnel at the end.It's not that it's not a high note.
It's just like a really dorky noteto go out on. At this
(15:48):
point, they knew that was it, but I mean, they still had
a couple episodes written, so theyweren't planning at the beginning that this is
how Carl's going to go out Anddid the monster kill Irene Lamont. You
know, that's a good question,because she just kind of disappears. They're
like all in that room, andthen the monster kool aid Man's its way
(16:10):
through the wall twice. Hi God, I'm thinking they should have hired this
guy because he can dig through walls, and you know, he's like Charles
Brownson in The Great Escape. Sowhat I thought was going I thought there
was actually gonna be a twist inthis episode, and it was going to
turn out that it was just likea rival someone like fucking with them,
(16:33):
and that it was going to bea person in a suit. And I
would have gotten away with it doif it weren't for you meddling kids.
How about if he takes away LieutenantIrene Lamont like the beast taking you know,
Faye ray away. Oh, likemakes her his like dungeon bride.
Yeah, I'm okay with that.Is that headcannon? Now, Irene Lamont
(16:56):
is just underground, being just likeimpregnated by this weird lizard monster. I've
seen shit like that in an AllenMoore comic. It's pretty weird. It
seems kind of hr Geiger to me, Like, especially if the lizard was
just like implanting eggs down her throator something. Wow, this took a
turn. It did for the worst. That was worse than the slash fiction.
Thinking about that. Yeah, thinkingabout Irene Lamont being forcibly raped by
(17:21):
this monster, it's awful. Ican see her like, h Dallas and
alien, ye kill me where youmade in the deleted scene where he's being
turned into an egg. Oh Jesus, that's not Cannon Goldchack just goes and
murders her, because we all knowColdchack is okay with murder. Yeah,
(17:41):
and he had that torch, hecould have just torched her right there.
I don't understand why Colchack didn't justgive the beast its eggs back, right
and he's just like no, Hegrabs the eggs and like hauls them to
the end of his hallway with torchesand then he's just like swinging at it
like I didn't. The other issueI have with this episode is normally,
(18:02):
when we have coal Check facing themonster at the end, it's very much
understood what he's trying to achieve infacing the monster. I don't know what
he was trying to achieve facing themonster at the end of this episode.
Right, it's not like he hada magic stick to poke him with.
No, right, he could havejust given the creature its eggs back.
It could have just left the eggsin the middle of the hallway and then
(18:25):
ran someplace. Well, that's mypoint, like the eggs could have been
taken out of the which again,also, nut's not overlook the fact that
this creature can break through walls butcan't open up a metal locker to get
its eggs back. No, you'regetting crazy. Well no, I'm just
using logic. There's a lot ofstuff in this episode that's really dorky and
(18:45):
goofy, and it's coal Check,so it's kind of to be expected.
But even I have a hard timeoverlooking some of the stuff in this episode,
like huge like logic jumps, likeget like logic, like gaps in
logic. I just sometimes I can'tget on board with him. Yeah,
I would say this isn't at thetop of the game, no, but
again, it's just it is.The disappointment of it all is that this
(19:06):
is that final shot of cold Checkrunning through the tunnels. Is the last
time we see Darren McGavin in thatrole. That's right. Sad aside from
that one time in the two thousandand six show Oh Shut your Face where
he shows up, it just kindof stands there. Well, let me
ask you, when do we wantto talk about what our favorite episode of
(19:27):
the show was? On this episodeor on the next one? No,
I think on the next one.I mean, so we can either do
one of two things. One istalk about the unproduced scripts and I think
we were talking about having Richer backfor that chieh. Yes, we can
do that, and that can bethe end of things. Or we can
(19:49):
do that and we can do anotherthing where we kind of wrap some stuff
up and talk about our favorite episodes. We sing memories in my be a
perfect time because I think Kats iscoming out right around that time. And
then we can talk a little bitabout the books if we happen to get
to some of those things. Butwell, that would take us through the
(20:10):
end of the year. That wouldtake us right through the end of the
year, and then we start freshin January with our new podcast venture.
I think we do that, Okay, So yeah, so come on back
folks next month. We were talkingabout the Eve of Terror, the get
of Belisle, and the executioners,especially if we can find that executioner script.
Somebody on Twitter messaged Richard and I'mstill waiting for him to actually get
(20:33):
the script and shoot that over.So come on folk back. That a
script called The Get of Belisle didnot get made into an episode is a
missed opportunity. I'm still waiting thetitle. I'm still waiting to know what
Belisle gets? What does Beliet?What are you getting? What does this
get? What is the Get ofBelisle? I'm sorry, I just don't
get you. Yeah, what isget get? What? What are you
(20:56):
getting? Yeah? I want tothank John Walker for doing our theme song,
and I want to think all ofyou find people for listening this long.
I think we've been doing this forthree years now. If you have
been here since the beginning, thankyou so much. Maybe somebody can tell
me how many times Chris has complainedabout the Werewolf episode. Maybe someone can
tell me how many times people justignore the fact that I'm on this episode
(21:18):
of this show. How many timespeople ignore the fact that I'm on this
show. I know what's going tohappen now as far as the authorities are
concerning the event, so they Priltwentieth and twenty first, will never have
occurred. They're gonna tell me thatif I ever breathe a word of this,
they're gonna break me like a strongman. What about the century was
eggs hatch in the warm, darkbank dampness of its nesting place. Who
(21:45):
knows? Maybe the government will findthe nest, maybe they won't. Who'll
probably never know. But if you'reon a subway or a pedestrian tunnel underneath
the ballpark and you think you hearsomething moving in the walls, it may
not be your imagination. Take myadvice, don't walk. Run to the
nearest exit poll. Pop up thepo
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