August 11, 2025 • 14 mins
August 11, 2025- In light of an endangered sea turtle being released back into the wild this summer, we check in with Rob DiGiovanni Jr., founder and chief scientist for the Atlantic Marine Conservation Society, to learn about his organization and the state's role in promoting their work.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This summer, state environmental officials joined environmental groups to release
an endangered sea turtle back into the ocean following its
rescue and rehabilitation by the Atlantic Marine Conservation Society. In
light of this event, we wanted to highlight the work
of the Atlantic Marine Conservation Society as well as the
role of the state's Environmental Protection Fund and promoting ocean
(00:24):
health and protecting endangered species. To do all that, we're
joined on the Capitol press room by Rob di Giovanni,
Junior Founder and Chief Scientist for the Atlantic Marine Conservation Society.
Welcome to the show, Rob, thank you for having me.
Well for starters. I'm interested. Can you talk us a
little bit about what your organization actually does and how
(00:44):
does maybe the rescue of Elton, this endangered Kemp's Ridley
Sea turtle fit into the work you do.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The Atlantic Marine Conservation Society is a not for profit
organization whose mission is to promote marine conservation through action,
and we do that with a lot of partners. We're
part of the Marine Mental Health and Standing Response Program.
We're part of the Seaturtal Salvage Network, so we work
with partners up and down the coast.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
There's another group in.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
New York, New York Marine Rescue that actually also does
part of the work that we do, So we kind
of have these roles that are split a little bit.
We focus on investigating the causes on mortality for whales, dolphin, seals,
and sea turtles, and then one of the other things
that we do is try to prepare for the things
that we hope would never happen, so more disaster planning.
(01:30):
How do we what would we do if we had
a large number of animals wash up. We've been doing this,
Our team has been doing this for a number of
decades now, and we've encountered many different types of events
and one of the things we wanted to do is
be more forward thinking and start to bring people together
and let them understand what could be happening in their
backyard as we see a lot of these changes in
(01:51):
our environment. So we are just one small part of
a much larger network that is coast wide. Elton was
an animal that itually stranded in Massachusetts with one of
our other network partners, mass Autoban and wealth Leet Bay
and New England Aquarium. So it's a whole team effort
of everybody coming together to respond to these animals.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, it sounds like you do a mix of individual
response to the needs of individual animals while also taking
more of a systemic approach to broader trends and conditions
that could adversely impact the ocean and the animals and
plants that live in it.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'm guessing yeah, actually, very well said I wish I
would have said that, but it actually we work together.
It comes back to the point that everybody's backyard, something's
going on. These animals live here, So how do we
work with local communities and how do we relate that
the wild population. So not only do we do the
stranding response and the rehabilitation, like we said, we also
(02:53):
go out and do surveys to count number of animals
that are here. We look at seals as well. We
also go out and try to do health assessments. So
we'll actually go out and tag seals and assess the
health status of these animals to see how they're working
in this Habitat thirty years ago, we had fewer animals
that we were seeing and so understanding how they interact
(03:15):
in the environment and then how we as humans interact
with them is all part of the equation. And a
big part is awareness to get people to know that
these animals are here, it's not uncommon. And how can
we get people to really report a lot more of
what they're seeing that sightings of animals that just might
be an interesting fact and say, hey, I saw a
turtle in the bay, or I saw a dolphin swimming
(03:36):
offshore and things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Well, in addition to sponsorships and donations from individuals, I
imagine you must get some type of government support, either
through contracts or through grants. Is that the case And
if so, what type of governments are we talking about.
Is it at the local level, state level, federal government,
(03:59):
or maybe I'm wrong and maybe you're doing this solely
without any government support.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yes, our funding comes from many different sources, whether it
be local grants, donations, or normal fundraisers. We do get
some funding from the EPF fund through the state. New
York State Department of Environmental Conservation helps support the work
that we do, as well as New York Marine.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Rescue to some part.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
There's a lot of components to be able to raise
those funds. We do also have the ability to apply
for federal funds. There's a John H. Prescott Rescue Assistance
program that we can apply to to try and get some.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Funds to that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That's actually a fund that was originated over twenty five
years ago and has no real increase in funding for
two and a half decades, so it's a limited pot,
but it's specifically for stranding programs. So you have to
really look in every area to be able to be
able to support the work that we're doing and continue
to be there when the phone rings. And I would
(04:57):
be really remiss if I didn't point out that without
the support of our volunteers and other partners, none of
this would be possible.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Although we have a staff of five.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Full time people and we handle all of New York
and then we have four part time interns, we actually
have about four hundred volunteers that are on our books,
about one hundred and twenty that are pretty active and
in different levels of training to be able to help us,
whether it be responding to a well on the beach
or a turtle or a seal or something along those lines.
So there's a lot of effort that has to go
(05:26):
into just one small event, and it really does bring
a community to get together, and that's the exciting part.
Of this is that it's not just one place where
we're doing this. It's trying to show this thirty years ago,
you wouldn't have thought about doing these things in your backyard.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, you mentioned the state's EPF, the Environmental Protection Fund,
which in this year's state budget increased to four hundred
and twenty five million dollars. Can you talk a little
bit about how that money might trickle down to an
organization like yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, yeah, I mean the funding for the EPF is
really important to support many projects and a lot of
the things. You know, it's always interesting for me is
every time we show up on the beach. I think
people have a little different mindset about science, is that
we're still trying to learn a lot about what's going
on in our environment and there are changes, so it
enables researchers to do a lot more work, whether it
(06:21):
be going out and doing well monitoring or going out
and doing other work for other species. And we're just
one small part of that where it does help provide
some base support so that we can monitor and have
our stranding operations so that we can respond to these animals.
And we're based out here in West Hampton, Beach. We
have a building that we work out of that enables
us to move. We're pretty mobile, so we work all
(06:44):
over Long Island and all the way even up to Hudson.
So that provides some support. So at least we know
we can go to work next year and continue to
do this.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
But does the EPF actually impact you or you know,
despite the more than four hundred million dollars in the
last couple of years, is this not necessarily something that
trickles down to organization like yours.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Oh, yes, it does.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Without support from the EPF, we wouldn't be able to
continue to We wouldn't know that we'd be able to
continue this work. Then it would be actually, we'd be
starting every year at zero, trying to figure out how
do we get gas money for our truck to go
out and respond to an animal. So many of these
organizations have projects that can be supported, but without that support,
we're not going to get those answers, or in our case,
(07:31):
the response would be extremely hindered.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You mentioned earlier how some of the government support broadly speaking,
can be kind of static, and the EPF here in
Albany is one of those funding sources where there's constantly
a push to increase it, and like I mentioned, it
went up to four hundred and twenty five million in
this past budget. And for a little more history, this
is a fund that I think was at around one
(07:56):
hundred and fifty million a decade ago, so it has
increased dramatically. Has that had a significant impact in what
either you've received or what you've seen other environmental groups
receive that are doing the type of work that you're
interested in.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, that's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And one of the things that I've looked at is
what were the costs associated with doing the work that
we do twenty years ago? And you know that was
considerably cost considerably less to do that, right, everything has
cost more, so as you try to even do the
same amount of work, you need to increase support so
that you can stay paced with And I'm just going
to use the example of gas because it just seems
(08:34):
to be on my mind since we've been driving all
over the place the last couple of days and everybody
makes fun of me where I try to find cheaper gas.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm with you, buddy, I'm with you on the cheap gas.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But in that sense, it just seems like those increases
have not necessarily in other programs have not necessarily been
appreciated that it does to do the same thing you
did ten years ago will actually costume more. And that's
really where not only doing more work, which I think
that what I've always liked about working in the not
(09:07):
for profit community and working with groups all of our partners,
is that what they're able to do with funding that
they get is so much more than what could be expected.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I mean, they tend.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
To really stretch the limits of every dollar as best
they can, and that's really what I'm always amazed at.
And so by partnering together and working on things like this,
we're able to have much greater impact because the fund
like this does bring a lot of people together, so
that you're communicating a lot more.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I mean, I know everybody feels.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That with the Internet we're able to communicate a lot more,
but there's also boots on the ground where bringing groups together,
knowing that people are working on other water quality issues
and throughout the marine environment, then you can start looking
at a much larger picture. It can't be just one
person doing everything. Seeing the support for this funds is
(10:02):
critical for our understanding and being able to respond to
our environment well.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
In addition to the funding question, are there policies that
you're pushing for, either at the state level or federal level,
or maybe even the local level to bring about some
of the systemic improvements that you might want to see
in the ocean and just the lives of wildlife.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I always take a step back, and we're kind of
on the action side of responding to these animals, collecting
data and saying, hey, we have whales here, we're seeing
interactions with vessel strikes, or we're having turtles that are
being hit by vessels. So we need to be able
to increase awareness that people know, hey, we have these
animals in our backyard. Maybe we should slow down a
(10:48):
little bit more. So when we look at regulations or
things along those lines, it's not something that our group
particularly gets evolved in. That's why we partner with others.
We usually provide the background scientific data that says this
is what we're seeing. And I use whales as an
example because we've been looking at whales for thirty years
(11:09):
or I have over thirty years here, and twenty five
years ago we were talking about some of the challenges
that we were facing, but whale sightings were so much
more infrequent years ago than they are now. Now people
are starting to say, oh, we're seeing them more often.
When I used to go out onto a beach and
there was a dead whale on the beach conducting and
we were going to conduct an nee crapcy, people would
(11:31):
actually say, I had no idea whales were here. Now
when we go out there, most people were saying, hey,
I saw a whale the other day, or I was
out fishing, or I just came across on the New
London Ferry and on the way back into Orient, I
saw a bunch of bottlenewsed dolphins. Those are changes in
our environment, and so understanding what those changes are is
really important, and then making sure people understand that don't
(11:54):
get close to these animals, give them their space.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So there's a need for.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Those regulations to say, let's try to keep them safe,
just like we put up slides for playgrounds or school area.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Slow down and let's keep everybody safe. So there's a
need for that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
There's also need for clean water and cleaning up our areas.
We've had a number of super fun sites around Long
Island in New York, and many years ago we had
a stranding of a dolphin in guanas Canal and the
outcry from the public was very interesting in that they
were very concerned because guanas Canal. They said, you can't
(12:28):
have the animal in there, it's dirty and everything else.
And my question was, yes, it's dirty, but we should
have it cleaned up for all of us, not necessarily
just for the animals. We want to have a healthier environment,
which leads to a healthier ecosystem. So any of these
changes that we can make and regulations to help clean
up our environment help make this a healthier habitat. Nobody
(12:51):
wants to go to a party, go and be able
to go out to a restaurant and see it be dirty.
And so if you think people and animals live here,
this is where they're going to eat, so we should
have a healthier environment for that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Well, we've been speaking with Rob Di Giovanni Junior. He's
the founder and chief scientist for the Atlantic Marine Conservation Society. Rob,
thank you so much for making the time and for
the work you do. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Thank you very much for your time, and thank you
for covering this story.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And if you see a marine mammal or sea turtle
in need of help, please call this state twenty four
hours stranding hotline at six three one three six nine
nine eight two nine.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
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This summer, state environmental officials joined environmental groups to release
an endangered sea turtle back into the ocean following its
rescue and rehabilitation by the Atlantic Marine Conservation Society. In
light of this event, we wanted to highlight the work
of the Atlantic Marine Conservation Society as well as the
role of the state's Environmental Protection Fund and promoting ocean
(00:24):
health and protecting endangered species. To do all that, we're
joined on the Capitol press room by Rob di Giovanni,
Junior Founder and Chief Scientist for the Atlantic Marine Conservation Society.
Welcome to the show, Rob, thank you for having me.
Well for starters. I'm interested. Can you talk us a
little bit about what your organization actually does and how
(00:44):
does maybe the rescue of Elton, this endangered Kemp's Ridley
Sea turtle fit into the work you do.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The Atlantic Marine Conservation Society is a not for profit
organization whose mission is to promote marine conservation through action,
and we do that with a lot of partners. We're
part of the Marine Mental Health and Standing Response Program.
We're part of the Seaturtal Salvage Network, so we work
with partners up and down the coast.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
There's another group in.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
New York, New York Marine Rescue that actually also does
part of the work that we do, So we kind
of have these roles that are split a little bit.
We focus on investigating the causes on mortality for whales, dolphin, seals,
and sea turtles, and then one of the other things
that we do is try to prepare for the things
that we hope would never happen, so more disaster planning.
(01:30):
How do we what would we do if we had
a large number of animals wash up. We've been doing this,
Our team has been doing this for a number of
decades now, and we've encountered many different types of events
and one of the things we wanted to do is
be more forward thinking and start to bring people together
and let them understand what could be happening in their
backyard as we see a lot of these changes in
(01:51):
our environment. So we are just one small part of
a much larger network that is coast wide. Elton was
an animal that itually stranded in Massachusetts with one of
our other network partners, mass Autoban and wealth Leet Bay
and New England Aquarium. So it's a whole team effort
of everybody coming together to respond to these animals.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, it sounds like you do a mix of individual
response to the needs of individual animals while also taking
more of a systemic approach to broader trends and conditions
that could adversely impact the ocean and the animals and
plants that live in it.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'm guessing yeah, actually, very well said I wish I
would have said that, but it actually we work together.
It comes back to the point that everybody's backyard, something's
going on. These animals live here, So how do we
work with local communities and how do we relate that
the wild population. So not only do we do the
stranding response and the rehabilitation, like we said, we also
(02:53):
go out and do surveys to count number of animals
that are here. We look at seals as well. We
also go out and try to do health assessments. So
we'll actually go out and tag seals and assess the
health status of these animals to see how they're working
in this Habitat thirty years ago, we had fewer animals
that we were seeing and so understanding how they interact
(03:15):
in the environment and then how we as humans interact
with them is all part of the equation. And a
big part is awareness to get people to know that
these animals are here, it's not uncommon. And how can
we get people to really report a lot more of
what they're seeing that sightings of animals that just might
be an interesting fact and say, hey, I saw a
turtle in the bay, or I saw a dolphin swimming
(03:36):
offshore and things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Well, in addition to sponsorships and donations from individuals, I
imagine you must get some type of government support, either
through contracts or through grants. Is that the case And
if so, what type of governments are we talking about.
Is it at the local level, state level, federal government,
(03:59):
or maybe I'm wrong and maybe you're doing this solely
without any government support.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yes, our funding comes from many different sources, whether it
be local grants, donations, or normal fundraisers. We do get
some funding from the EPF fund through the state. New
York State Department of Environmental Conservation helps support the work
that we do, as well as New York Marine.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Rescue to some part.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
There's a lot of components to be able to raise
those funds. We do also have the ability to apply
for federal funds. There's a John H. Prescott Rescue Assistance
program that we can apply to to try and get some.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Funds to that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That's actually a fund that was originated over twenty five
years ago and has no real increase in funding for
two and a half decades, so it's a limited pot,
but it's specifically for stranding programs. So you have to
really look in every area to be able to be
able to support the work that we're doing and continue
to be there when the phone rings. And I would
(04:57):
be really remiss if I didn't point out that without
the support of our volunteers and other partners, none of
this would be possible.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Although we have a staff of five.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Full time people and we handle all of New York
and then we have four part time interns, we actually
have about four hundred volunteers that are on our books,
about one hundred and twenty that are pretty active and
in different levels of training to be able to help us,
whether it be responding to a well on the beach
or a turtle or a seal or something along those lines.
So there's a lot of effort that has to go
(05:26):
into just one small event, and it really does bring
a community to get together, and that's the exciting part.
Of this is that it's not just one place where
we're doing this. It's trying to show this thirty years ago,
you wouldn't have thought about doing these things in your backyard.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, you mentioned the state's EPF, the Environmental Protection Fund,
which in this year's state budget increased to four hundred
and twenty five million dollars. Can you talk a little
bit about how that money might trickle down to an
organization like yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, yeah, I mean the funding for the EPF is
really important to support many projects and a lot of
the things. You know, it's always interesting for me is
every time we show up on the beach. I think
people have a little different mindset about science, is that
we're still trying to learn a lot about what's going
on in our environment and there are changes, so it
enables researchers to do a lot more work, whether it
(06:21):
be going out and doing well monitoring or going out
and doing other work for other species. And we're just
one small part of that where it does help provide
some base support so that we can monitor and have
our stranding operations so that we can respond to these animals.
And we're based out here in West Hampton, Beach. We
have a building that we work out of that enables
us to move. We're pretty mobile, so we work all
(06:44):
over Long Island and all the way even up to Hudson.
So that provides some support. So at least we know
we can go to work next year and continue to
do this.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
But does the EPF actually impact you or you know,
despite the more than four hundred million dollars in the
last couple of years, is this not necessarily something that
trickles down to organization like yours.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Oh, yes, it does.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Without support from the EPF, we wouldn't be able to
continue to We wouldn't know that we'd be able to
continue this work. Then it would be actually, we'd be
starting every year at zero, trying to figure out how
do we get gas money for our truck to go
out and respond to an animal. So many of these
organizations have projects that can be supported, but without that support,
we're not going to get those answers, or in our case,
(07:31):
the response would be extremely hindered.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You mentioned earlier how some of the government support broadly speaking,
can be kind of static, and the EPF here in
Albany is one of those funding sources where there's constantly
a push to increase it, and like I mentioned, it
went up to four hundred and twenty five million in
this past budget. And for a little more history, this
is a fund that I think was at around one
(07:56):
hundred and fifty million a decade ago, so it has
increased dramatically. Has that had a significant impact in what
either you've received or what you've seen other environmental groups
receive that are doing the type of work that you're
interested in.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, that's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And one of the things that I've looked at is
what were the costs associated with doing the work that
we do twenty years ago? And you know that was
considerably cost considerably less to do that, right, everything has
cost more, so as you try to even do the
same amount of work, you need to increase support so
that you can stay paced with And I'm just going
to use the example of gas because it just seems
(08:34):
to be on my mind since we've been driving all
over the place the last couple of days and everybody
makes fun of me where I try to find cheaper gas.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm with you, buddy, I'm with you on the cheap gas.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But in that sense, it just seems like those increases
have not necessarily in other programs have not necessarily been
appreciated that it does to do the same thing you
did ten years ago will actually costume more. And that's
really where not only doing more work, which I think
that what I've always liked about working in the not
(09:07):
for profit community and working with groups all of our partners,
is that what they're able to do with funding that
they get is so much more than what could be expected.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I mean, they tend.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
To really stretch the limits of every dollar as best
they can, and that's really what I'm always amazed at.
And so by partnering together and working on things like this,
we're able to have much greater impact because the fund
like this does bring a lot of people together, so
that you're communicating a lot more.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I mean, I know everybody feels.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That with the Internet we're able to communicate a lot more,
but there's also boots on the ground where bringing groups together,
knowing that people are working on other water quality issues
and throughout the marine environment, then you can start looking
at a much larger picture. It can't be just one
person doing everything. Seeing the support for this funds is
(10:02):
critical for our understanding and being able to respond to
our environment well.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
In addition to the funding question, are there policies that
you're pushing for, either at the state level or federal level,
or maybe even the local level to bring about some
of the systemic improvements that you might want to see
in the ocean and just the lives of wildlife.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I always take a step back, and we're kind of
on the action side of responding to these animals, collecting
data and saying, hey, we have whales here, we're seeing
interactions with vessel strikes, or we're having turtles that are
being hit by vessels. So we need to be able
to increase awareness that people know, hey, we have these
animals in our backyard. Maybe we should slow down a
(10:48):
little bit more. So when we look at regulations or
things along those lines, it's not something that our group
particularly gets evolved in. That's why we partner with others.
We usually provide the background scientific data that says this
is what we're seeing. And I use whales as an
example because we've been looking at whales for thirty years
(11:09):
or I have over thirty years here, and twenty five
years ago we were talking about some of the challenges
that we were facing, but whale sightings were so much
more infrequent years ago than they are now. Now people
are starting to say, oh, we're seeing them more often.
When I used to go out onto a beach and
there was a dead whale on the beach conducting and
we were going to conduct an nee crapcy, people would
(11:31):
actually say, I had no idea whales were here. Now
when we go out there, most people were saying, hey,
I saw a whale the other day, or I was
out fishing, or I just came across on the New
London Ferry and on the way back into Orient, I
saw a bunch of bottlenewsed dolphins. Those are changes in
our environment, and so understanding what those changes are is
really important, and then making sure people understand that don't
(11:54):
get close to these animals, give them their space.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So there's a need for.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Those regulations to say, let's try to keep them safe,
just like we put up slides for playgrounds or school area.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Slow down and let's keep everybody safe. So there's a
need for that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
There's also need for clean water and cleaning up our areas.
We've had a number of super fun sites around Long
Island in New York, and many years ago we had
a stranding of a dolphin in guanas Canal and the
outcry from the public was very interesting in that they
were very concerned because guanas Canal. They said, you can't
(12:28):
have the animal in there, it's dirty and everything else.
And my question was, yes, it's dirty, but we should
have it cleaned up for all of us, not necessarily
just for the animals. We want to have a healthier environment,
which leads to a healthier ecosystem. So any of these
changes that we can make and regulations to help clean
up our environment help make this a healthier habitat. Nobody
(12:51):
wants to go to a party, go and be able
to go out to a restaurant and see it be dirty.
And so if you think people and animals live here,
this is where they're going to eat, so we should
have a healthier environment for that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Well, we've been speaking with Rob Di Giovanni Junior. He's
the founder and chief scientist for the Atlantic Marine Conservation Society. Rob,
thank you so much for making the time and for
the work you do. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Thank you very much for your time, and thank you
for covering this story.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And if you see a marine mammal or sea turtle
in need of help, please call this state twenty four
hours stranding hotline at six three one three six nine
nine eight two nine.
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