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December 15, 2025 34 mins

What makes a lifelong conservative rethink everything—and cross the political divide from Republican to Democrat? Why would a Marine switch from being a life-long Republican to join the Democrats and dump Trump's GOP?


In this episode of the Lean to the Left Podcast, host Bob Gatty sits down with Carl Able, retired Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeant, founder of Crayon Box Politics, and co-host of the Crayon Box Weekly podcast, to explore his powerful journey from Republican to Democrat.


Carl explains how a deep review of party platforms—and a reckoning with human rights issues like healthcare, reproductive freedom, immigration, and LGBTQ+ rights—led him to conclude that the modern Republican Party no longer reflected his values. What followed was not just a change in party registration, but a complete political realignment grounded in principle and clarity -- to the point where Able plans to run for Congress from North Carolina, as a Democrat.


Drawing on his Marine Corps experience, Carl discusses leadership, critical thinking, and the danger of political tribalism. He also explains the mission behind Crayon Box Politics, an initiative designed to cut through political noise and make government processes understandable for everyday Americans.


Commenting on the current controversy over Defense Secretary Hegseth reportedly ordering a second strike to kill two sailers clutching to their bombed out fishing boat, Abel says the order was illegal and that he would not have followed it.


Looking ahead, Carl shares his plans for an AI-powered civic education tool and his goal of running for Congress in North Carolina’s 3rd District in 2028, focused on veterans’ issues, coastal protection, and economic opportunity.


This conversation is a call to engagement, courage, and honest dialogue—proof that political growth is possible, and necessary, in a polarized America.


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CHAPTERS:

00:00 Welcome to Lean to the Left Podcast

00:09 Meet Carl Able: From Marine to Political Advocate

00:46 Carl's Political Journey: From Republican to Democrat

01:52 Challenges and Realizations in Political Alignment

04:55 Reception in Democratic Circles

07:42 Key Issues: Human Rights and Healthcare

12:49 Military Service and Its Impact on Views

16:45 Controversial Orders and Military Ethics

20:35 Political Fractures and Future Aspirations

25:02 Crayon Box Politics: Mission and Vision

28:50 Carl's Political Ambitions and Future Plans

31:43 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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