October 20, 2025 • 42 mins
The guest host for today's show is Brad Bannon. Brad runs Bannon Communications Research, a polling, message development and media firm which helps labor unions, progressive issue groups and Democratic candidates win public affairs and political campaigns. His show, 'Deadline D.C. with Brad Bannon,' airs every Monday from 3-4pm ET.
Brad is first joined by Paul Lisnek, Political and Legal Analyst for WGN-TV in Chicago.
The pair examines the ICE invasion of the 'Windy City' by the Trump administration, as well as Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker's response.
Then, Brad is joined by Tara Devlin, host of the 'TARABUSTER' podcast.
They analyze the impact of the 'No Kings' protest against Trump's imperial presidency, including the staggering turnout of roughly seven million attendees at 2,600 events in all 50 states.
The two also discuss President Trump's pardon of former Congressman George Santos, who was sentenced to 87 months in prison after pleading guilty to misusing campaign funds and stealing identities.
Paul Lisnek anchors “Political Report” every Sunday morning at 9am central which looks at national and local issues for Chicago. It can be live streamed on www.wgntv.com/live and watched on the new WGN+ app which can be downloaded thru Apple TV, Roku or Firestick.
Paul has worked as a jury consultant in such cases as OJ Simpson and Whitewater, teaches Constitutional Law and Ethics for the bar review course. He is the author of 15 books including the award winning fiction book: "Assume Treason."
Tara Devlin is a New York City based comedian, writer, and host of the unapologetically-liberal podcast "TARABUSTER.”
Tarabuster is 5-star viewer-reviewed and 100% viewer-supported.
Help keep the REAL liberal media going – and growing – by becoming a Patron of Tarabuster at Patreon.com/TaraDevlin.
You can follow Tara on BlueSky at @tarabuster.bsky.social and on Instagram at @Taradacktyl.
Brad writes a political column every Sunday for 'The Hill.'
He's on the National Journal's panel of political insiders and is a national political analyst for WGN TV and Radio in Chicago and KNX Radio in Los Angeles. You can read Brad's columns at www.MuckRack.com/Brad-Bannon. His handle on BlueSky is @bradbannon.bsky.social.
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Brad is first joined by Paul Lisnek, Political and Legal Analyst for WGN-TV in Chicago.
The pair examines the ICE invasion of the 'Windy City' by the Trump administration, as well as Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker's response.
Then, Brad is joined by Tara Devlin, host of the 'TARABUSTER' podcast.
They analyze the impact of the 'No Kings' protest against Trump's imperial presidency, including the staggering turnout of roughly seven million attendees at 2,600 events in all 50 states.
The two also discuss President Trump's pardon of former Congressman George Santos, who was sentenced to 87 months in prison after pleading guilty to misusing campaign funds and stealing identities.
Paul Lisnek anchors “Political Report” every Sunday morning at 9am central which looks at national and local issues for Chicago. It can be live streamed on www.wgntv.com/live and watched on the new WGN+ app which can be downloaded thru Apple TV, Roku or Firestick.
Paul has worked as a jury consultant in such cases as OJ Simpson and Whitewater, teaches Constitutional Law and Ethics for the bar review course. He is the author of 15 books including the award winning fiction book: "Assume Treason."
Tara Devlin is a New York City based comedian, writer, and host of the unapologetically-liberal podcast "TARABUSTER.”
Tarabuster is 5-star viewer-reviewed and 100% viewer-supported.
Help keep the REAL liberal media going – and growing – by becoming a Patron of Tarabuster at Patreon.com/TaraDevlin.
You can follow Tara on BlueSky at @tarabuster.bsky.social and on Instagram at @Taradacktyl.
Brad writes a political column every Sunday for 'The Hill.'
He's on the National Journal's panel of political insiders and is a national political analyst for WGN TV and Radio in Chicago and KNX Radio in Los Angeles. You can read Brad's columns at www.MuckRack.com/Brad-Bannon. His handle on BlueSky is @bradbannon.bsky.social.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Live from our nation's capital. It's Deadline DC with Brad Bannon.
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Getting colder outside, but today we'll keep up the heat.
On Deadline DC with Brad Bannon. I'm Brad Bannon. I'm
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take on Donald Trump's imperial presidency. You can read my
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that drive our great nation forward or at least keep
it from going backwards under Trump. Two point zero. Today,
we have a really good show for you. In the
first half hour, our guest is Paul Lisnek, who is
the anchor of the political show The Political Report on
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WGNTV in Chicago. And by the way, if you want
to watch The Political Report, which is on every Sunday
morning at nine am Central time. You can watch it
at www w dot WGNTV dot.
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Com front Slash Live in the second half hour, our
guests will be Tara Devlin, who the hosts of the
tarat Buster podcast, who will talk about the new King's
No King's protest and other vital issues. We're going to
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play this clip now which shows Illinois Governor JB. Pritzk
of Illinois on the Jimmy Kimmel Show.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
We also got a very special report filed by JB.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Pritzker, the governor of Illinois.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
This is JB.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Pritzker reporting from war torn Chicago. As you can see,
there's honor, mayhem, and chaos on the ground disturbing. The
Milwaukee Brewers have come in to attack our Chicago cubs.
We've seen people being forced to eat hot dogs with
ketchup on them, and our deep dish pizza well has
gone shallow. So it's a challenge to survive here in
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the city of Chicago. But there's no healthscape that I'd
rather be in.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Well.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Thank you for Please know that you and the cob.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well be in our prayers. That's with Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzka,
who may run for president on the Jimmy Kimmel Show,
mocking the president's description of Chicago and other major American
cities as war tone. Our guest in this half hour
is Paul Lisnik, who is a political and legal analyst
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for w g N TV in Chicago. He is also
the author of many books, the latest which you think
is a Zoomed Guilt. I think Paul very much for
joining us. I don't know where he gets the time
to do this show and everything else he does, but
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fortunately we have him for this half hour. Welcome back
to Deadline DC, Paul.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It has been a minute, Brad. It's good to be
with you. Happy to talk about all things national in Illinois.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Okay, First of all, the President has described Chicago, Portland, Washington, DC,
and other major American cities as war zones. You report
on Chicago for WGN TV and radio. Is it a
war zone? It seems to me we're facing alternate realities
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here where the President describes these cities in you know,
military terms, and meanwhile, millions of Chicagoans and portland Is
are living normal lives. Something's wrong here? What gives well?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And just to remind you of viewers and listeners, my
job on WGN, as you said, is as an analyst.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I'm not a commentator.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So I say that I meaning I'm not coming on
here to speak the liberal or conservative view. I try
and present both use That's what I do on the air.
So the answer to your question here is that, no,
there's no evidence that this is a war zone. The
toughest part of what is happening in what we call
our broad View area and a few others truly has
been created and triggered by all of these ICE troops
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who are coming here, and for a short while the
National Guard that's put.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
On hold for right now. But what's really.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Interesting, I'm going to put the legal head on for
a moment, is that when you have courts that they
as they've done here in Illinois, and they look at
the situation to decide, in response to a emotion or
a request, can we get these troops out of here
in this area? The federal judges have said there's no
insurrection going on here, there's no invasion going on here,
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and that's what it would take order for the president
to lawfully send, for example, national Guard troops here. Ice
he can send, but not national Guard. It's interesting that
in some other places where he's getting challenged, the court
looks at it differently and says, well, this is about
presidential power, and we're not to question really presidential power.
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When it happens, we can look at it down the line.
So in other places, of course, the troops have not
been ordered out. The final update not final, but the
latest update here out of the Chicago area is the
Trump administration has brought this to the US Supreme Court saying, look,
allow me to send these National Guard troops back there.
And of course what's interesting about that is that the
Supreme Court, I know, we're going to talk about them
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specifically a little bit later, but they have not found
very many reasons to keep this president maybe others in
the future from essentially exercising their authority however they choose to.
So that's Trump's effort is to go to the go
up to the Supreme Court and see.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Whether they will assist him out and say, yes.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
These troops can be there, regardless of what the judges
closer to the ground are saying.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Okay, well, let me About a month ago, there was
graphic news footage of the scene in Chicago, which many
Americans felt very troubling. Ice repelled from helicopters onto high
rise apartment building. They detained several residents of that apartment building.
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And also they were foot you know, there was footage
news footage which I'm sure it was on WGN of
little kids being led away in cuffs and what was that?
What was that scene?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Like, it's pretty shocking, I think for the people who
lived here, And you were right, it was sort of
a middle of the night effort where just hundreds of
these ice and I believe at that time National Guard troops,
as you said, repelled down the building and was like
watching a movie.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Trump had put up a meme or something like that
several weeks ago basically saying, you know that saying apocalypse
now here in Chicago, right hypocalypse, he said, shy apocalypse.
Now those are the kind of scenes that presented that image.
But you're right, people, elderly people, little kids were zip.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Tied with their hands behind their back.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And you know, the argument from ice a National Guard
was well, we got a zip tie the kids. It's
for their own safety. But you know, you have to
take a step back. This was not a hostage situation.
There was nothing going on here. I think that would
have prevented that activity being conducted. With some knocks on
the front door in the early morning or during the daytime,
I'm not quite sure other than the visual appearance of
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it all, why the decision was made to do what
they were doing. Now, if there were some you know,
indication that the government had that nobody else knew about
or has seen since requiring this immediate kind of action, Okay,
maybe there was, but I haven't seen it, so I
will say here it was greatly shocking. And now you're
you know, what you do see on the news every
day is you are seeing protests going on and groups,
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you know, near the ice facility where one judge also
ordered a fence that had been built to be taken down.
It was built by the federal government, and the mayor
of Broadview, which is where that area is, said, I
don't want it here and alter and I said on
the air, she's going to win that one. She did,
and that fance has been taken down. We'll see what
challenges there are to that. So the bottom line to
it is, sure there's crime in Chicago. Mayor wouldn't object
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to that. Mayor says, I've got some ways we can
continue to address crime. Our rates are down, but you know, yes,
it can be scary to walk around certain neighborhoods. But
this invasion of you know, all these you know, gangs
and whatever that he's talking about, try to agra and
all this kind of stuff. I mean, I don't think
most people would say we've seen them, or that there's
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many of it, much of it here, maybe a little bit,
but not requiring what we're saying.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Now, have there been any repercussions from that raid? You know,
it seemed to me it was from my viewing, pretty
harth lie. But have there been any political legal repercussions
that rate well.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean, what you're seeing on the reputation and you
say it legal repercussions, it's just efforts in court. It
just highlights and and triggers the tension a little bit more.
You know, if they were doing what they were doing
in a different way, I don't know that you'd have
all the protesters going out the way they're going. But
obviously the Chicago Land area feels the pressure and the
tension of what's going on, not knowing what is next.
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Now again, a judge here in the Cook County area
federal judge who actually was President Biden's appointee to become
the US attorney here, but the Senate blocked it. He
made her a judge, and so Judge April Perry, and
so she after a two day deliberation.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
I actually thought she was going to go the other
way because.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
She didn't rule immediately, basically issued a temporary restraining order
which can be renewed. That's coming up relatively soon and
we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
But it does all.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
As the anchor of your own show, Oh no, you
appreciate this, but we had take a break for our
radio listeners. We'll be right back with Paul Listnik from
WGNTV in Chicago. Welcome back to Deadline d C with
Brad Bannon, and welcome back to our radio listeners. I
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Our guest in the half hour is Paul Lisniku, the
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the host of the Political Report, which you can view
every Sunday at nine am Central Time online at wgn. UH. Paul,
let's switch to a different subject. First of all, there
was a large No King's March in Chicago yesterday Saturday,
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along with the marches in other cities across the country.
What was the march like?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Well, we had reporters covering it, so not as a reporter,
I did not attend. Wouldn't be permitted to attend anyway.
As being in the journalism world, you don't do that.
You don't go to public events like that unless you're
reporting on them. But that being said, just watch the coverage,
like so many people, reports of seven million people all
over the country and in other countries as well.
Speaker 8 (12:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
The President coming out today by saying they were, you know,
very small crowds and basically attacking everybody was there. He
put out an interesting meme over the weekend as well,
which showed him in an airplane and essentially dropping waste
on these crowds and going after it.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
So you know, I mean again, I always like to
ask it very presidential.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well, you know again, if Obama Biden pick a president
who had done the same thing, you know that everybody
would be losing their minds over it. We'd be back
in impeachment proceedings. But President Trump has just given a
lot of leeway with with almost anything he chooses to do.
The question is what was the point of the march?
And I think it's a really good question to ask.
The hope of the people who march would be to say, well,
hopefully we're sending the president a message, which is that
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people are not happy with his with his policies and
he needs to change them. That might work with some people.
My take as an analyst is I don't think it
matters at all. Again, the President already put down the
marches by saying very small crowds of lunatics. So what
exactly do we expect him to take out of that
to say, Okay, I think I'll make some modifications. The
real questions for the marchers and the seven million people
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who march would be to say, do you plan to
vote in twenty twenty six? I mean, if you're going
to make a difference and you're expecting there to be
changed the answer with you all. It ain't gonna be
with President Trump. He's gonna do what he does. So
if people who marched out there are thinking we need
to have a change, we need you know, we the
Democrats that say have to get the House back for
themselves in twenty twenty six, they better be voting, They
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better be working. There probably time better spent than holding
up posters walking around the streets.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, because raises a question. You mentioned what's next? The
march was apparently a success. Millions of people across America watched,
but somehow you have to channel that energy to something tangible, like,
you know, voting in the mid term elections.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, I'm going to give you an example of what's next.
Watch what happens in New Jersey in Virginia. That's the
what's next because then you know you're the political expert
as well. Here those are off yer elections and if
Virginia and you know the races are tightening, certainly in
New Jersey. So with all that's going on, if you
look at a sort of a generally liberal state sort
of like New Jersey and a swing state like virgin
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and should they both go Republican and their gubernatorial elections. Well,
that tells you that while there might be a lot
of anger in the streets, not enough to change the
guard at the top of the state.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Okay, let's try this. The governor of the Illinois JB. Pritzk,
is widely mentioned as a presidential candidate for the Democratic
nomination in twoenty twenty eight. What can you tell us
about the governor's presidential ambitions.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Well, he seems to and I interviewed the governors a
few weeks ago about a different topic. We talked about
anti Semitism, and we actually recorded it at the Holocaust.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Museum here in Illinois.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
But knowing him to the extent I do, I think
you'd be fooling yourself to think he doesn't have those
national ambitions. I will say there's another local character who
might be looking at a presidential run, and that is
former mayor and congressman and everything else from Emmanuel.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
The two of them are friends.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And my best guess is that they will on some
at some point have a powwow, would sit down and
side which of us is going to go for it.
I think I put my money on Pritzker being the
one to go for it. He's just doing too many
things and getting a lot of national attention. But rom
is as well, uh you know, so that that I
think he's putting his name out there now. Recent story
last week was he went to Vegas and I guess
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won of over a million dollars.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
In playing cars a day.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
But and so while you know, some of the Republicans
locally started attacking him and whatever, you know, the bottom
line was, again I look at it as an analyst,
he reported.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
That's how we know about it.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
He reported it on his income tax and he donated
it all to charity. So get mad at him for
winning a million bucks if you want, and talk about
the fact that you know, we're not millionaires, but he is.
But it's not exactly like he took the money and
went and bought himself a nice gold bracelet.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
He donated it. So pretty good move. He's very conscious.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I think that that every move he makes he's being watched,
and I think he is one to watch going forward.
What are his chances It's too early to know. Right now,
you have Gavin Newsom and so many other people.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
There's Brad. You know, there's gonna be a huge pool
of people who are going.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
To want that democratic nomination in twenty we have to
see how things play out.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yep, let's put go back to Since you're a lawyer
and WG and legal analysts, let's go back to the
Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has a case before which
I guess they've heard oral arguments on that would essentially
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disrupt the Voting Rights Act. And in particular, if the
Court here's the case and rules on it against the
civil rights movement, we could have massive redistricting in the
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South in the West that could help Republicans hang on
to the Senate. And essentially, could you tell us about
that court case, Paul.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well, essentially, And remember the Supreme Court has dealt with
over the last period of years some of these redistricting cases. Anyway,
they have slowly but surely been gutting the redistricting efforts.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
People have to remember that where this comes from.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You've got to go back to the sixties and the seventies,
and a lot of these rules were put into place
because districts were being drawn in a way to basically
keep African Americans from having any kind of representation. So
the Court steps in decades ago in many southern states
and said look, you just this has to be more fair.
So what happened lately is a group of essentially Caucasians,
white people who said, well, wait a minute, now, that
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you're making these efforts, we're being discriminated against depending on.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Where we live.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
So we live in an area where there are many
minorities living, but our voices aren't being heard. I don't
know what the court's going to do, but you start
with the premise, which is, if the Supreme Court takes
a case, the odds are there taking it.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
To change something.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Why take a case if you have no problem with
what's going on, you just don't take the case so
that they can affirm things.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
But it looks like when they.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Take this case, and given their trajectory, it looks as
though their desire may be to further gut gut the
fairy districting efforts. And then your point is fair is
taken fairly, which we already see. Texas just created five
more Republican districts. Illinois playing with whether they'll will they'll
create one, although while there's a some say they're they're
looking at it. Some say, and now I talked to
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the Chief, the Speaker of our House last week he said,
I haven't seen any maps, so we'll see how it
all plays out. California stepping in and it gets, it gets,
It gets sort of messy, but there's no question if
the court wipes out the efforts in that area. Yes,
you're looking at what will clearly be nationally a more
strongly Republican app.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Paul, thank you very much for joining us today. It's
always great to have you on. And remember that Paul
is the co anchor of The Political Report Sunday Mornings
in chicag on w GN TV in Chicago at at
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airs at nine am Central Time, and you can watch
it live online, sort of the same way you can
watch the Deadline DC live. We're going to take a
break now. Our guest in the second half hour will
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be will be Tara Devlin, the host of Terrabuster podcast.
She comes to us from New York City. We're going
to discuss the No Kings protest that occurred in the
Big Apple. We'll be going back with more Deadline DS
right after this message. Welcome back to Deadline d C
(20:42):
with Brad Bannon. Our guest in this half hour is
the hostess with the most Tara Devlin, host of the
Tarrabuster podcast. She's here today to discuss the No Kings protest,
(21:02):
the New York City mayoral race, and an article she's
in the middle of writing about Oligaki Khan job. We'll
ask her to talk about that. Let's start. Oh, we
got to play this clip now from CBS on the
No Kings protest.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Today, organizers say at least seven million Americans took to
the streets protesting what many called an abuse of power
by President Trump. House Speaker Mike Johnson called it quote
the Hate America Rally. Here in New York City, police
say one hundred thousand people turned.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Out at multiple marches. They report no arrests.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
There were more than twenty six hundred events from coast
to coast. They are all part of the No King's movement,
which accuses the president of behaving more like a monarch
than an elected official. CBS is the least Preston and
Los Angeles leads us off tonight, Elise Driika.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
Thousands have turned up here in downtown Los Angeles to
express their fear and frustration with the administration.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Their message, no monarchs in America.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I want to be able to tell my future children
that I was here that I.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
Stood on the right side of history.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
The nationwide rallies are in response to what organizers call
an abusive power by President Trump, including his administration's cranked
down on immigration and its threat to send the National
Guard into cities, including in Chicago and Portland.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
The message is no kings.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
The message is the Constitution of the United States is
a wonderful document that matters.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Republicans said the protests were nothing more than hate America rallies.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
I'm Jorian Small in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Before leaving the Hill this week, HOWSE speaker Mike Johnson
framed this rally as a hate America event.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Attendees disagreed.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
We love America, how we hate what they're trying to
do to America.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Today's rally is taking place in big cities and small
towns in every state.
Speaker 10 (22:58):
I'm Ali Bawman in Moretown, New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Thousands attended today's rally, sixteen miles away from the President's New.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
Jersey golf course.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
This county has deep roots in the nation's founding, known
as the military capital of the American Revolution.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Our forefathers fought off kings and said no Kings for
the first time so it is full circle.
Speaker 9 (23:21):
Judy Kelly is one of the local organizers to.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Defend democracy on this land.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
It does mean a lot to all of us who
are working on it. In Frisco, Texas, the protest was
small but vocal.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I believe in democracy.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I fought for democracy and sacrifice, and the things that.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Are being done right now on this government are totally ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
In Europe, protesters were also small in numbers, but passionate
outside the US Embassy in London, in Paris, in Berlin.
Speaker 10 (23:49):
Being here in Germany, especially considering the history that's here,
we have a unique perspective to look and say that's
not okay. Ahead of today's protest that governors Virginia and
Texas brought in the National Guard to handle any potential
on rest in their state Jerika, those protests have been
largely peaceful, same scene here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
That was our clip from CBS News about the No
Kings protests. Our guest today is Tara Devlin, host of
Terra Buster podcast. Tara, your observations on the No Kings protest.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Well, it's great and I'm glad that we are actually
more people came out this time. About two million more
and we're reaching that the tipping point in social science
that say you need at least three point five percent
of a population to really make to really know that
your movement has legs and impact. So and yeah, now
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we have to organize, organize, organize, and get these people
out to the polls.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
But you know the fact that and engaged.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
The other thing, I think that we need to support
the independent liberal media like what we're doing here, because
I mean, it's great. I'm glad the legacy media covered it.
But the problem is what really irritates me when she's
saying what.
Speaker 11 (25:17):
Critics call an overreach by Trump, what critics call, how
about anybody with eyes, anyone with a basic knowledge of
the constitution call the fact that Trump wants to be
a king.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Not only he thinks he's a king, he says it
all the time. You know, he's the one that said
all Hail the King. He tweeted out a picture of
himself and a crown and all this other stuff. This
it's not normal, of course, but they normalize it all
the time. What critics say, sending the national Guard, activating
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other states national Guard and sending them to other states
is absolutely an admiration. It's a it's appalling, it's an abomination,
and no, no American should stand for it. It really
aggravates me. In fact, with what's his name, Greg Abbott
(26:14):
from from Texas saying he had to send his National
Guard to Chicago because Pritzker isn't following the constitution. Who
are these red state, these poorly run red state governors
to to do this to our you know, they are
fellow Americans. This is shouldn't this This is what it is.
(26:37):
I mean, they're really they're really waging war against the
American people, not just blue states. They're waging against democracy.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
First.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Third, that Texas had sent National Guards troops to uh, Chicago, Illinois.
First thing I think of, Well, this gives South the
chance to refight it.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Yeah, it's that's what that's This is what everyone who
ever fought, bled and dyed for this country is rolling
over in their graves because the Republicans are waging war
against democracy and even the fact that they call it
a hate America rally, they should be ashamed of themselves.
It goes to show you that they have nothing to
offer the American people. It is a con job. The
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entire Republican Party is a con job. And like you said,
I was writing it. I'm writing an article about this
for the Political Voices Network, and it's time for the
American people to face it.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
But you won't hear.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
This from the legacy media because they are busy enabling
the Republicans and taking them.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
At their word, taking them.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
I mean, you don't have to simply report what Mike
Johnson says to call it a hate America rally and
in fact, to say that it's all Hamas and Antifa
and domestic terrorists populating the No King's market. First of all,
Antifa is not an organization, It is an idea. And
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the fact that they call it and that it's the
greatest domestic terrorist threat goes to show us all that
the Republican Party is running a scam on the American people.
They don't want to face, you know, they don't want
to solve America's actual problems that they help create. They
want to tear this country apart. If you know, if
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you really had a domestic terrorist problem, we would know
about it. We would know about it. They make up
this ubiquitous all seeing a domestic terrorist threat, everybody's under
assault right, everybody's under attack all the time from these people.
But where are these people? You know, I heard that
Christy nom took What did they do? They arrested the
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girlfriend of the founder of Antifa. Okay, right, where is she?
Where's you know, you got Bonnie? Where's Clyde?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Right?
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Nobody knows who the founder is? Where do I send
my dues?
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Where where's the the where's the organization?
Speaker 9 (29:04):
Where do I show up for my meetings? Where do
I get I mean, this is what we're talking about.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
The Republican Party is I mean, they are the domestic
enemies the founders warned us about at this moment right now, Well, let.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Me ask you this question, terror, How do they get
away with it? There's you know, clearly.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
Right because of the media that I mean proved me
wrong if you get you know, we're having a discussion here.
But I maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm misguided.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
I think it is it's the media.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
You know, since the consolidation of the media, we have
half the country that are getting their information from from
media outlets that literally had to pay the largest fine
in American history for lying to their viewers, or they
were hit with the largest fine. It was reduced, but
you know, and the studies show make its viewers less
(29:58):
informed than those who watch.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
News at all.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
And then you have the right wing influencers who are
being funded by the Kremlin, and these people are enabled
to and these are the people that Christy Nomes has
on the roofs of the in Portland looking down on
the so called domestic terrorists who are standing around in
frog suits and clown shoot suits and all these other
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you know, outfits that make the assault on them look ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (30:28):
And I'm glad they're doing that, really so.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
But it's And by the way, since you mentioned Christy Nomes,
Christmas came early for her today. The President just gifted
her to luxury Gulf Stream jets.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
For her use.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
Really, I mean, it's good to be the king. This
is what we're talking about, this guy. They're out of control.
Republicans are not.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
And I've said a few years that Republicans do not
get into governments.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Coming up against the break will be with more of
Deadline DC and Tara Devlin from Terrabuster.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
Right after this.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Break, let them back to Deadline DC with Brad Banna.
I guessed in this half hours Tara Devlin, host of
the Terrorbuster podcast. If we ever start giving out frequent
fire miles against terror is going to be right at
(31:28):
the top of the list, and we're glad she takes
the time to join us occasionally, Tara, let's try this.
One of the big news items out of New York
City and our nation's capital was former Congressman George Santos
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was sprung from jail by his buddy Donald Trump after
serving only a few months of his sentence.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Thought, well, it's once again, you know the messages. If
you're a Trump loyalist, you're you can live a blatant
life of crime. Santos is just like Trump, a lifelong
con man, and he was the reason he was kicked
out of Congress.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Have convictions for it.
Speaker 9 (32:19):
Yeah, they're both con men.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
The whole history of we I did a whole thing
about him a few times on my show because he
was he's he lived in Queen's He was notorious, uh
for not paying his rent. He you know, would always
just take advantage of whatever progressive policies were out there.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Like during the pandemic.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
He was of course living fat on the ppe loans
and stuff that he didn't he had no business having
access to He's just a grifter. And the reason they
they got kicked him out of Congress was because he
was stealing from Republicans too.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
He was stealing from there.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
One guy, I can't remember his name, but he he
I mean, shamer on this person for allowing his mother
to give George Santos her credit card number, but he
was stealing from this fellow Republican's mother. You know, this
fellow Republican in the in the house, his his mother.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
He was periodic.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
He was routinely charging her credit card and he would
not stop. And this is just a lifelong grifter. He's
a very sick man. This is he's a sociopath like
like Trump is, clearly because you don't behave like that
otherwise you don't go out there and say, I'm the
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volleyball champion, I went to Columbia, I'm I'm an astronaut,
and I climb Mount Everest and everything that he that
he talked about, but he it is. It's indicative of
the Republican Party. As we remember, they didn't kick him
out when they found out because they have no shame anymore.
The Republican Party is all about power and it's a scam,
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the whole thing, let's all face it, and I wish
the corporate media maybe one day they'll catch up just
the same way they catching up with the fact that
the Republicans in every Republican chess beats the heart of fascism. Okay,
I've been saying that for years now. Let's get on
board with the fact that the Republican Party is a
party of grifters. The whole thing is a con to
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separate people from their money and make and destroy democracy.
So we don't have the ability to do anything about it.
That's what they want to do, and they don't because
they're not very impressive people. Ultimately, they don't have what
it takes to actually be those people that they.
Speaker 9 (34:41):
Want us to think they are.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
You know, like Santos, he would love to be a
volleyball star, but that takes too much work. You know
that you have to actually commit to something then and
you have to keep working at it and practicing. But
they don't want to do that same thing with Trump.
They just want the easy route. They want to rig
the game, and that's why they get into government. They're
not in government for altruism. They're not in government to
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help people as we know, I mean people who slap
each other on the back for stripping Americans of health care.
They should be ashamed of themselves. But no, that's they
don't care. They want more money and power. So everything
that they've been telling us for years, I've been screaming
about it. You've been screaming about it that you know,
(35:27):
trickle down is blowney. Their tax cuts don't pay for themselves.
The Republican Party is bad for business. Ultimately, it's the truth.
Everything that they run on is a scam.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
The whole thing.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
A deregulation leads to explosive business growth. It's just no,
it doesn't. Regulations are written in blood.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
You know how many lead paint chips do you have
to eat till you figure that out.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
You know, people died because of these regulations, not like
people like, hey, let's regulate this. We people learn hard
lessons and then you know, here comes regulation and they think, well,
it's so much cheaper to just pour your corporate poison
into the environments, you know, if you can make an
extra buck. They don't have a community spirit. They don't
(36:19):
like this country. I mean really, they love government. They
just don't like democracy. You know, they love a big,
big government that has its boot on your neck. So
you know that it's time to just get out there
and tell people this, enough with the enabling Let's not
take the Republicans at their word. Corporate media when they say, oh,
(36:40):
the big beautiful bill is gonna be great for everybody,
or when Mike Johnson says he's a real article one guy,
you know, when.
Speaker 9 (36:51):
He's just completely abdicated.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
He's abdicated his role as a coequal branch of government.
Speaker 9 (36:59):
So has the Supreme Court.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
It's just a disgusting disgrace that proves that they have
never had an interest in democracy. It is, it's pesky,
it's annoying, and they what they're doing is dragging us
back to the system that the founders for the revolution
to overthrow.
Speaker 9 (37:16):
So nothing more American.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
Just just like what they say everything, you know, everything's
a confession or a projection. They to say that what
we witnessed yesterday it was a hate America rally, Shame
on them. It's just another example that they can't tell
the truth.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
If they tried, they can't meet us fairly and squarely.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Let me ask you a question about that terror. A
true development I find very troubling is the new editor
editor in chief of CBS News is a form is
a Trump crony. Now CBS News. I remember that Dan
(37:58):
Rather breaking the Watergate conspiracy, Edward R. Morrow taking on
fascist McCarthyism, and you know, I you know, Fox News
is Fox News. But when CBS has someone like her
as an editor in chief, that makes me really worry.
(38:20):
So my question to you is, how do we break
the hold of the corporate media. I mean, let's face it,
let's be realistic here, terror if you took to if
you took the terror Buster viewers and added them on
top of the deadline DC, CBS has more influenced.
Speaker 9 (38:37):
Than I know.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
It's sad, I know how I'm sorry, I know, I
hear you. That's why I always say, well, know this
country is on the right track when people like that,
when CBS is saying, please become a patron and you know.
Speaker 9 (38:51):
We just have a rolling on with telling the truth
to the American people.
Speaker 8 (38:56):
Yeah, it's it's a disgrace, but that's why we're in
this boat because of the deregulation of the media, because
of the consolidation of the media, And how do we
break through.
Speaker 9 (39:07):
We're breaking through. We're doing what we can now.
Speaker 8 (39:10):
But I really do wish the Democratic Party would do
what the Republican Party did. You see, they were smart
years ago, the Republican Party, because they have they have
nothing else in reality to boast about, so they would
would fund people like and and elevate people like, for example,
Diamond and Silk. I always point to them because as
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soon as they you know, they would.
Speaker 9 (39:33):
They picked her up and they put that not her,
them the two of them.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
Now there's only one because she took her own advice
about COVID, but anyway, you know, rest in peace, lady.
But she they picked her up, and they picked them
up and put them on Fox News. And this is
what they would do. So they they understood that wherever
the American people went, they wanted them to meet their message.
And that's why, you know, that's why potent funds right
(40:00):
wing influencers, that's why they the Republican Party. The big
wigs in the Republican Party will go on these small
podcasts and make give these you know, right wing influencers
a bigger platform.
Speaker 9 (40:15):
That way.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
They don't do that in the Democratic Party, and it's
really frustrating. Maybe they're gonna learn now, But I think
it's because of people like you know, Schumer and the
old guard. They're still standing in the way. Like Schumer,
they shame on them. They still have an ANGELI brand.
Who are my senators still haven't endorsed Mandami. They don't
(40:38):
see you know, I guess I need to do it.
I don't know why they should be, you know. And
they're also funding some other right with some eighty near
eighty year old.
Speaker 9 (40:49):
I'm trying to remember where it is now, but.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
Some of them, yeah, right, instead of the progressive challenger there,
he's endorsing this eighty year old again. Yeah, it's it's time,
you know, for for a sea change in the Democratic
Party in my opinion. But yeah, we we have to
get the message. That's how that's why we're in this boat,
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you see. That's why people in these poorly run red states,
where people like Mitch McConnell and the rest do nothing
for the people they pretend to represent.
Speaker 9 (41:23):
In fact, they make their lives as.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Unfortunately, that's all the time we have on this occasion.
I'm sure you will be back. I want to thank
Tara Devlin, the host of.
Speaker 9 (41:36):
Terra Buster podcast thank you.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
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analysts for w g N TV in Chicago, and the
special thanks to my ex intrepid executive producer Mark Grimaldi,
who makes sure the train the show runs on time
is and the train starts on time. Missed the very
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(01:52):
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Speaker 4 (02:17):
Com front Slash Live in the second half hour, our
guests will be Tara Devlin, who the hosts of the
tarat Buster podcast, who will talk about the new King's
No King's protest and other vital issues. We're going to
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play this clip now which shows Illinois Governor JB. Pritzk
of Illinois on the Jimmy Kimmel Show.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
We also got a very special report filed by JB.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Pritzker, the governor of Illinois.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
This is JB.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Pritzker reporting from war torn Chicago. As you can see,
there's honor, mayhem, and chaos on the ground disturbing. The
Milwaukee Brewers have come in to attack our Chicago cubs.
We've seen people being forced to eat hot dogs with
ketchup on them, and our deep dish pizza well has
gone shallow. So it's a challenge to survive here in
(03:17):
the city of Chicago. But there's no healthscape that I'd
rather be in.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Well.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Thank you for Please know that you and the cob.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well be in our prayers. That's with Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzka,
who may run for president on the Jimmy Kimmel Show,
mocking the president's description of Chicago and other major American
cities as war tone. Our guest in this half hour
is Paul Lisnik, who is a political and legal analyst
(03:50):
for w g N TV in Chicago. He is also
the author of many books, the latest which you think
is a Zoomed Guilt. I think Paul very much for
joining us. I don't know where he gets the time
to do this show and everything else he does, but
(04:11):
fortunately we have him for this half hour. Welcome back
to Deadline DC, Paul.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It has been a minute, Brad. It's good to be
with you. Happy to talk about all things national in Illinois.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Okay, First of all, the President has described Chicago, Portland, Washington, DC,
and other major American cities as war zones. You report
on Chicago for WGN TV and radio. Is it a
war zone? It seems to me we're facing alternate realities
(04:46):
here where the President describes these cities in you know,
military terms, and meanwhile, millions of Chicagoans and portland Is
are living normal lives. Something's wrong here? What gives well?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And just to remind you of viewers and listeners, my
job on WGN, as you said, is as an analyst.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I'm not a commentator.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So I say that I meaning I'm not coming on
here to speak the liberal or conservative view. I try
and present both use That's what I do on the air.
So the answer to your question here is that, no,
there's no evidence that this is a war zone. The
toughest part of what is happening in what we call
our broad View area and a few others truly has
been created and triggered by all of these ICE troops
(05:30):
who are coming here, and for a short while the
National Guard that's put.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
On hold for right now. But what's really.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Interesting, I'm going to put the legal head on for
a moment, is that when you have courts that they
as they've done here in Illinois, and they look at
the situation to decide, in response to a emotion or
a request, can we get these troops out of here
in this area? The federal judges have said there's no
insurrection going on here, there's no invasion going on here,
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and that's what it would take order for the president
to lawfully send, for example, national Guard troops here. Ice
he can send, but not national Guard. It's interesting that
in some other places where he's getting challenged, the court
looks at it differently and says, well, this is about
presidential power, and we're not to question really presidential power.
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When it happens, we can look at it down the line.
So in other places, of course, the troops have not
been ordered out. The final update not final, but the
latest update here out of the Chicago area is the
Trump administration has brought this to the US Supreme Court saying, look,
allow me to send these National Guard troops back there.
And of course what's interesting about that is that the
Supreme Court, I know, we're going to talk about them
(06:39):
specifically a little bit later, but they have not found
very many reasons to keep this president maybe others in
the future from essentially exercising their authority however they choose to.
So that's Trump's effort is to go to the go
up to the Supreme Court and see.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Whether they will assist him out and say, yes.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
These troops can be there, regardless of what the judges
closer to the ground are saying.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Okay, well, let me About a month ago, there was
graphic news footage of the scene in Chicago, which many
Americans felt very troubling. Ice repelled from helicopters onto high
rise apartment building. They detained several residents of that apartment building.
(07:28):
And also they were foot you know, there was footage
news footage which I'm sure it was on WGN of
little kids being led away in cuffs and what was that?
What was that scene?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Like, it's pretty shocking, I think for the people who
lived here, And you were right, it was sort of
a middle of the night effort where just hundreds of
these ice and I believe at that time National Guard troops,
as you said, repelled down the building and was like
watching a movie.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Trump had put up a meme or something like that
several weeks ago basically saying, you know that saying apocalypse
now here in Chicago, right hypocalypse, he said, shy apocalypse.
Now those are the kind of scenes that presented that image.
But you're right, people, elderly people, little kids were zip.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Tied with their hands behind their back.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And you know, the argument from ice a National Guard
was well, we got a zip tie the kids. It's
for their own safety. But you know, you have to
take a step back. This was not a hostage situation.
There was nothing going on here. I think that would
have prevented that activity being conducted. With some knocks on
the front door in the early morning or during the daytime,
I'm not quite sure other than the visual appearance of
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it all, why the decision was made to do what
they were doing. Now, if there were some you know,
indication that the government had that nobody else knew about
or has seen since requiring this immediate kind of action, Okay,
maybe there was, but I haven't seen it, so I
will say here it was greatly shocking. And now you're
you know, what you do see on the news every
day is you are seeing protests going on and groups,
(09:00):
you know, near the ice facility where one judge also
ordered a fence that had been built to be taken down.
It was built by the federal government, and the mayor
of Broadview, which is where that area is, said, I
don't want it here and alter and I said on
the air, she's going to win that one. She did,
and that fance has been taken down. We'll see what
challenges there are to that. So the bottom line to
it is, sure there's crime in Chicago. Mayor wouldn't object
(09:22):
to that. Mayor says, I've got some ways we can
continue to address crime. Our rates are down, but you know, yes,
it can be scary to walk around certain neighborhoods. But
this invasion of you know, all these you know, gangs
and whatever that he's talking about, try to agra and
all this kind of stuff. I mean, I don't think
most people would say we've seen them, or that there's
(09:43):
many of it, much of it here, maybe a little bit,
but not requiring what we're saying.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Now, have there been any repercussions from that raid? You know,
it seemed to me it was from my viewing, pretty
harth lie. But have there been any political legal repercussions
that rate well.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean, what you're seeing on the reputation and you
say it legal repercussions, it's just efforts in court. It
just highlights and and triggers the tension a little bit more.
You know, if they were doing what they were doing
in a different way, I don't know that you'd have
all the protesters going out the way they're going. But
obviously the Chicago Land area feels the pressure and the
tension of what's going on, not knowing what is next.
(10:21):
Now again, a judge here in the Cook County area
federal judge who actually was President Biden's appointee to become
the US attorney here, but the Senate blocked it. He
made her a judge, and so Judge April Perry, and
so she after a two day deliberation.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
I actually thought she was going to go the other
way because.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
She didn't rule immediately, basically issued a temporary restraining order
which can be renewed. That's coming up relatively soon and
we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
But it does all.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
As the anchor of your own show, Oh no, you
appreciate this, but we had take a break for our
radio listeners. We'll be right back with Paul Listnik from
WGNTV in Chicago. Welcome back to Deadline d C with
Brad Bannon, and welcome back to our radio listeners. I
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Our guest in the half hour is Paul Lisniku, the
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(11:51):
the host of the Political Report, which you can view
every Sunday at nine am Central Time online at wgn. UH. Paul,
let's switch to a different subject. First of all, there
was a large No King's March in Chicago yesterday Saturday,
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along with the marches in other cities across the country.
What was the march like?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Well, we had reporters covering it, so not as a reporter,
I did not attend. Wouldn't be permitted to attend anyway.
As being in the journalism world, you don't do that.
You don't go to public events like that unless you're
reporting on them. But that being said, just watch the coverage,
like so many people, reports of seven million people all
over the country and in other countries as well.
Speaker 8 (12:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
The President coming out today by saying they were, you know,
very small crowds and basically attacking everybody was there. He
put out an interesting meme over the weekend as well,
which showed him in an airplane and essentially dropping waste
on these crowds and going after it.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
So you know, I mean again, I always like to
ask it very presidential.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well, you know again, if Obama Biden pick a president
who had done the same thing, you know that everybody
would be losing their minds over it. We'd be back
in impeachment proceedings. But President Trump has just given a
lot of leeway with with almost anything he chooses to do.
The question is what was the point of the march?
And I think it's a really good question to ask.
The hope of the people who march would be to say, well,
hopefully we're sending the president a message, which is that
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people are not happy with his with his policies and
he needs to change them. That might work with some people.
My take as an analyst is I don't think it
matters at all. Again, the President already put down the
marches by saying very small crowds of lunatics. So what
exactly do we expect him to take out of that
to say, Okay, I think I'll make some modifications. The
real questions for the marchers and the seven million people
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who march would be to say, do you plan to
vote in twenty twenty six? I mean, if you're going
to make a difference and you're expecting there to be
changed the answer with you all. It ain't gonna be
with President Trump. He's gonna do what he does. So
if people who marched out there are thinking we need
to have a change, we need you know, we the
Democrats that say have to get the House back for
themselves in twenty twenty six, they better be voting, They
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better be working. There probably time better spent than holding
up posters walking around the streets.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, because raises a question. You mentioned what's next? The
march was apparently a success. Millions of people across America watched,
but somehow you have to channel that energy to something tangible, like,
you know, voting in the mid term elections.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, I'm going to give you an example of what's next.
Watch what happens in New Jersey in Virginia. That's the
what's next because then you know you're the political expert
as well. Here those are off yer elections and if
Virginia and you know the races are tightening, certainly in
New Jersey. So with all that's going on, if you
look at a sort of a generally liberal state sort
of like New Jersey and a swing state like virgin
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and should they both go Republican and their gubernatorial elections. Well,
that tells you that while there might be a lot
of anger in the streets, not enough to change the
guard at the top of the state.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Okay, let's try this. The governor of the Illinois JB. Pritzk,
is widely mentioned as a presidential candidate for the Democratic
nomination in twoenty twenty eight. What can you tell us
about the governor's presidential ambitions.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Well, he seems to and I interviewed the governors a
few weeks ago about a different topic. We talked about
anti Semitism, and we actually recorded it at the Holocaust.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Museum here in Illinois.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
But knowing him to the extent I do, I think
you'd be fooling yourself to think he doesn't have those
national ambitions. I will say there's another local character who
might be looking at a presidential run, and that is
former mayor and congressman and everything else from Emmanuel.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
The two of them are friends.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And my best guess is that they will on some
at some point have a powwow, would sit down and
side which of us is going to go for it.
I think I put my money on Pritzker being the
one to go for it. He's just doing too many
things and getting a lot of national attention. But rom
is as well, uh you know, so that that I
think he's putting his name out there now. Recent story
last week was he went to Vegas and I guess
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won of over a million dollars.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
In playing cars a day.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
But and so while you know, some of the Republicans
locally started attacking him and whatever, you know, the bottom
line was, again I look at it as an analyst,
he reported.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
That's how we know about it.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
He reported it on his income tax and he donated
it all to charity. So get mad at him for
winning a million bucks if you want, and talk about
the fact that you know, we're not millionaires, but he is.
But it's not exactly like he took the money and
went and bought himself a nice gold bracelet.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
He donated it. So pretty good move. He's very conscious.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I think that that every move he makes he's being watched,
and I think he is one to watch going forward.
What are his chances It's too early to know. Right now,
you have Gavin Newsom and so many other people.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
There's Brad. You know, there's gonna be a huge pool
of people who are going.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
To want that democratic nomination in twenty we have to
see how things play out.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yep, let's put go back to Since you're a lawyer
and WG and legal analysts, let's go back to the
Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has a case before which
I guess they've heard oral arguments on that would essentially
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disrupt the Voting Rights Act. And in particular, if the
Court here's the case and rules on it against the
civil rights movement, we could have massive redistricting in the
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South in the West that could help Republicans hang on
to the Senate. And essentially, could you tell us about
that court case, Paul.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well, essentially, And remember the Supreme Court has dealt with
over the last period of years some of these redistricting cases. Anyway,
they have slowly but surely been gutting the redistricting efforts.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
People have to remember that where this comes from.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You've got to go back to the sixties and the seventies,
and a lot of these rules were put into place
because districts were being drawn in a way to basically
keep African Americans from having any kind of representation. So
the Court steps in decades ago in many southern states
and said look, you just this has to be more fair.
So what happened lately is a group of essentially Caucasians,
white people who said, well, wait a minute, now, that
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you're making these efforts, we're being discriminated against depending on.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Where we live.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
So we live in an area where there are many
minorities living, but our voices aren't being heard. I don't
know what the court's going to do, but you start
with the premise, which is, if the Supreme Court takes
a case, the odds are there taking it.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
To change something.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Why take a case if you have no problem with
what's going on, you just don't take the case so
that they can affirm things.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
But it looks like when they.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Take this case, and given their trajectory, it looks as
though their desire may be to further gut gut the
fairy districting efforts. And then your point is fair is
taken fairly, which we already see. Texas just created five
more Republican districts. Illinois playing with whether they'll will they'll
create one, although while there's a some say they're they're
looking at it. Some say, and now I talked to
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the Chief, the Speaker of our House last week he said,
I haven't seen any maps, so we'll see how it
all plays out. California stepping in and it gets, it gets,
It gets sort of messy, but there's no question if
the court wipes out the efforts in that area. Yes,
you're looking at what will clearly be nationally a more
strongly Republican app.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Paul, thank you very much for joining us today. It's
always great to have you on. And remember that Paul
is the co anchor of The Political Report Sunday Mornings
in chicag on w GN TV in Chicago at at
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airs at nine am Central Time, and you can watch
it live online, sort of the same way you can
watch the Deadline DC live. We're going to take a
break now. Our guest in the second half hour will
(20:17):
be will be Tara Devlin, the host of Terrabuster podcast.
She comes to us from New York City. We're going
to discuss the No Kings protest that occurred in the
Big Apple. We'll be going back with more Deadline DS
right after this message. Welcome back to Deadline d C
(20:42):
with Brad Bannon. Our guest in this half hour is
the hostess with the most Tara Devlin, host of the
Tarrabuster podcast. She's here today to discuss the No Kings protest,
(21:02):
the New York City mayoral race, and an article she's
in the middle of writing about Oligaki Khan job. We'll
ask her to talk about that. Let's start. Oh, we
got to play this clip now from CBS on the
No Kings protest.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Today, organizers say at least seven million Americans took to
the streets protesting what many called an abuse of power
by President Trump. House Speaker Mike Johnson called it quote
the Hate America Rally. Here in New York City, police
say one hundred thousand people turned.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Out at multiple marches. They report no arrests.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
There were more than twenty six hundred events from coast
to coast. They are all part of the No King's movement,
which accuses the president of behaving more like a monarch
than an elected official. CBS is the least Preston and
Los Angeles leads us off tonight, Elise Driika.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
Thousands have turned up here in downtown Los Angeles to
express their fear and frustration with the administration.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Their message, no monarchs in America.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I want to be able to tell my future children
that I was here that I.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
Stood on the right side of history.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
The nationwide rallies are in response to what organizers call
an abusive power by President Trump, including his administration's cranked
down on immigration and its threat to send the National
Guard into cities, including in Chicago and Portland.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
The message is no kings.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
The message is the Constitution of the United States is
a wonderful document that matters.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Republicans said the protests were nothing more than hate America rallies.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
I'm Jorian Small in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Before leaving the Hill this week, HOWSE speaker Mike Johnson
framed this rally as a hate America event.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Attendees disagreed.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
We love America, how we hate what they're trying to
do to America.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Today's rally is taking place in big cities and small
towns in every state.
Speaker 10 (22:58):
I'm Ali Bawman in Moretown, New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Thousands attended today's rally, sixteen miles away from the President's New.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
Jersey golf course.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
This county has deep roots in the nation's founding, known
as the military capital of the American Revolution.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Our forefathers fought off kings and said no Kings for
the first time so it is full circle.
Speaker 9 (23:21):
Judy Kelly is one of the local organizers to.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Defend democracy on this land.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
It does mean a lot to all of us who
are working on it. In Frisco, Texas, the protest was
small but vocal.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I believe in democracy.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I fought for democracy and sacrifice, and the things that.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Are being done right now on this government are totally ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
In Europe, protesters were also small in numbers, but passionate
outside the US Embassy in London, in Paris, in Berlin.
Speaker 10 (23:49):
Being here in Germany, especially considering the history that's here,
we have a unique perspective to look and say that's
not okay. Ahead of today's protest that governors Virginia and
Texas brought in the National Guard to handle any potential
on rest in their state Jerika, those protests have been
largely peaceful, same scene here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
That was our clip from CBS News about the No
Kings protests. Our guest today is Tara Devlin, host of
Terra Buster podcast. Tara, your observations on the No Kings protest.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Well, it's great and I'm glad that we are actually
more people came out this time. About two million more
and we're reaching that the tipping point in social science
that say you need at least three point five percent
of a population to really make to really know that
your movement has legs and impact. So and yeah, now
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we have to organize, organize, organize, and get these people
out to the polls.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
But you know the fact that and engaged.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
The other thing, I think that we need to support
the independent liberal media like what we're doing here, because
I mean, it's great. I'm glad the legacy media covered it.
But the problem is what really irritates me when she's
saying what.
Speaker 11 (25:17):
Critics call an overreach by Trump, what critics call, how
about anybody with eyes, anyone with a basic knowledge of
the constitution call the fact that Trump wants to be
a king.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Not only he thinks he's a king, he says it
all the time. You know, he's the one that said
all Hail the King. He tweeted out a picture of
himself and a crown and all this other stuff. This
it's not normal, of course, but they normalize it all
the time. What critics say, sending the national Guard, activating
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other states national Guard and sending them to other states
is absolutely an admiration. It's a it's appalling, it's an abomination,
and no, no American should stand for it. It really
aggravates me. In fact, with what's his name, Greg Abbott
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from from Texas saying he had to send his National
Guard to Chicago because Pritzker isn't following the constitution. Who
are these red state, these poorly run red state governors
to to do this to our you know, they are
fellow Americans. This is shouldn't this This is what it is.
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I mean, they're really they're really waging war against the
American people, not just blue states. They're waging against democracy.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
First.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Third, that Texas had sent National Guards troops to uh, Chicago, Illinois.
First thing I think of, Well, this gives South the
chance to refight it.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Yeah, it's that's what that's This is what everyone who
ever fought, bled and dyed for this country is rolling
over in their graves because the Republicans are waging war
against democracy and even the fact that they call it
a hate America rally, they should be ashamed of themselves.
It goes to show you that they have nothing to
offer the American people. It is a con job. The
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entire Republican Party is a con job. And like you said,
I was writing it. I'm writing an article about this
for the Political Voices Network, and it's time for the
American people to face it.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
But you won't hear.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
This from the legacy media because they are busy enabling
the Republicans and taking them.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
At their word, taking them.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
I mean, you don't have to simply report what Mike
Johnson says to call it a hate America rally and
in fact, to say that it's all Hamas and Antifa
and domestic terrorists populating the No King's market. First of all,
Antifa is not an organization, It is an idea. And
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the fact that they call it and that it's the
greatest domestic terrorist threat goes to show us all that
the Republican Party is running a scam on the American people.
They don't want to face, you know, they don't want
to solve America's actual problems that they help create. They
want to tear this country apart. If you know, if
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you really had a domestic terrorist problem, we would know
about it. We would know about it. They make up
this ubiquitous all seeing a domestic terrorist threat, everybody's under
assault right, everybody's under attack all the time from these people.
But where are these people? You know, I heard that
Christy nom took What did they do? They arrested the
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girlfriend of the founder of Antifa. Okay, right, where is she?
Where's you know, you got Bonnie? Where's Clyde?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Right?
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Nobody knows who the founder is? Where do I send
my dues?
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Where where's the the where's the organization?
Speaker 9 (29:04):
Where do I show up for my meetings? Where do
I get I mean, this is what we're talking about.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
The Republican Party is I mean, they are the domestic
enemies the founders warned us about at this moment right now, Well, let.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Me ask you this question, terror, How do they get
away with it? There's you know, clearly.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
Right because of the media that I mean proved me
wrong if you get you know, we're having a discussion here.
But I maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm misguided.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
I think it is it's the media.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
You know, since the consolidation of the media, we have
half the country that are getting their information from from
media outlets that literally had to pay the largest fine
in American history for lying to their viewers, or they
were hit with the largest fine. It was reduced, but
you know, and the studies show make its viewers less
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informed than those who watch.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
News at all.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
And then you have the right wing influencers who are
being funded by the Kremlin, and these people are enabled
to and these are the people that Christy Nomes has
on the roofs of the in Portland looking down on
the so called domestic terrorists who are standing around in
frog suits and clown shoot suits and all these other
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you know, outfits that make the assault on them look ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (30:28):
And I'm glad they're doing that, really so.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
But it's And by the way, since you mentioned Christy Nomes,
Christmas came early for her today. The President just gifted
her to luxury Gulf Stream jets.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
For her use.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
Really, I mean, it's good to be the king. This
is what we're talking about, this guy. They're out of control.
Republicans are not.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
And I've said a few years that Republicans do not
get into governments.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Coming up against the break will be with more of
Deadline DC and Tara Devlin from Terrabuster.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
Right after this.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Break, let them back to Deadline DC with Brad Banna.
I guessed in this half hours Tara Devlin, host of
the Terrorbuster podcast. If we ever start giving out frequent
fire miles against terror is going to be right at
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the top of the list, and we're glad she takes
the time to join us occasionally, Tara, let's try this.
One of the big news items out of New York
City and our nation's capital was former Congressman George Santos
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was sprung from jail by his buddy Donald Trump after
serving only a few months of his sentence.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Thought, well, it's once again, you know the messages. If
you're a Trump loyalist, you're you can live a blatant
life of crime. Santos is just like Trump, a lifelong
con man, and he was the reason he was kicked
out of Congress.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Have convictions for it.
Speaker 9 (32:19):
Yeah, they're both con men.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
The whole history of we I did a whole thing
about him a few times on my show because he
was he's he lived in Queen's He was notorious, uh
for not paying his rent. He you know, would always
just take advantage of whatever progressive policies were out there.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Like during the pandemic.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
He was of course living fat on the ppe loans
and stuff that he didn't he had no business having
access to He's just a grifter. And the reason they
they got kicked him out of Congress was because he
was stealing from Republicans too.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
He was stealing from there.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
One guy, I can't remember his name, but he he
I mean, shamer on this person for allowing his mother
to give George Santos her credit card number, but he
was stealing from this fellow Republican's mother. You know, this
fellow Republican in the in the house, his his mother.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
He was periodic.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
He was routinely charging her credit card and he would
not stop. And this is just a lifelong grifter. He's
a very sick man. This is he's a sociopath like
like Trump is, clearly because you don't behave like that
otherwise you don't go out there and say, I'm the
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volleyball champion, I went to Columbia, I'm I'm an astronaut,
and I climb Mount Everest and everything that he that
he talked about, but he it is. It's indicative of
the Republican Party. As we remember, they didn't kick him
out when they found out because they have no shame anymore.
The Republican Party is all about power and it's a scam,
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the whole thing, let's all face it, and I wish
the corporate media maybe one day they'll catch up just
the same way they catching up with the fact that
the Republicans in every Republican chess beats the heart of fascism. Okay,
I've been saying that for years now. Let's get on
board with the fact that the Republican Party is a
party of grifters. The whole thing is a con to
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separate people from their money and make and destroy democracy.
So we don't have the ability to do anything about it.
That's what they want to do, and they don't because
they're not very impressive people. Ultimately, they don't have what
it takes to actually be those people that they.
Speaker 9 (34:41):
Want us to think they are.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
You know, like Santos, he would love to be a
volleyball star, but that takes too much work. You know
that you have to actually commit to something then and
you have to keep working at it and practicing. But
they don't want to do that same thing with Trump.
They just want the easy route. They want to rig
the game, and that's why they get into government. They're
not in government for altruism. They're not in government to
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help people as we know, I mean people who slap
each other on the back for stripping Americans of health care.
They should be ashamed of themselves. But no, that's they
don't care. They want more money and power. So everything
that they've been telling us for years, I've been screaming
about it. You've been screaming about it that you know,
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trickle down is blowney. Their tax cuts don't pay for themselves.
The Republican Party is bad for business. Ultimately, it's the truth.
Everything that they run on is a scam.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
The whole thing.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
A deregulation leads to explosive business growth. It's just no,
it doesn't. Regulations are written in blood.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
You know how many lead paint chips do you have
to eat till you figure that out.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
You know, people died because of these regulations, not like
people like, hey, let's regulate this. We people learn hard
lessons and then you know, here comes regulation and they think, well,
it's so much cheaper to just pour your corporate poison
into the environments, you know, if you can make an
extra buck. They don't have a community spirit. They don't
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like this country. I mean really, they love government. They
just don't like democracy. You know, they love a big,
big government that has its boot on your neck. So
you know that it's time to just get out there
and tell people this, enough with the enabling Let's not
take the Republicans at their word. Corporate media when they say, oh,
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the big beautiful bill is gonna be great for everybody,
or when Mike Johnson says he's a real article one guy,
you know, when.
Speaker 9 (36:51):
He's just completely abdicated.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
He's abdicated his role as a coequal branch of government.
Speaker 9 (36:59):
So has the Supreme Court.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
It's just a disgusting disgrace that proves that they have
never had an interest in democracy. It is, it's pesky,
it's annoying, and they what they're doing is dragging us
back to the system that the founders for the revolution
to overthrow.
Speaker 9 (37:16):
So nothing more American.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
Just just like what they say everything, you know, everything's
a confession or a projection. They to say that what
we witnessed yesterday it was a hate America rally, Shame
on them. It's just another example that they can't tell
the truth.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
If they tried, they can't meet us fairly and squarely.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Let me ask you a question about that terror. A
true development I find very troubling is the new editor
editor in chief of CBS News is a form is
a Trump crony. Now CBS News. I remember that Dan
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Rather breaking the Watergate conspiracy, Edward R. Morrow taking on
fascist McCarthyism, and you know, I you know, Fox News
is Fox News. But when CBS has someone like her
as an editor in chief, that makes me really worry.
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So my question to you is, how do we break
the hold of the corporate media. I mean, let's face it,
let's be realistic here, terror if you took to if
you took the terror Buster viewers and added them on
top of the deadline DC, CBS has more influenced.
Speaker 9 (38:37):
Than I know.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
It's sad, I know how I'm sorry, I know, I
hear you. That's why I always say, well, know this
country is on the right track when people like that,
when CBS is saying, please become a patron and you know.
Speaker 9 (38:51):
We just have a rolling on with telling the truth
to the American people.
Speaker 8 (38:56):
Yeah, it's it's a disgrace, but that's why we're in
this boat because of the deregulation of the media, because
of the consolidation of the media, And how do we
break through.
Speaker 9 (39:07):
We're breaking through. We're doing what we can now.
Speaker 8 (39:10):
But I really do wish the Democratic Party would do
what the Republican Party did. You see, they were smart
years ago, the Republican Party, because they have they have
nothing else in reality to boast about, so they would
would fund people like and and elevate people like, for example,
Diamond and Silk. I always point to them because as
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soon as they you know, they would.
Speaker 9 (39:33):
They picked her up and they put that not her,
them the two of them.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
Now there's only one because she took her own advice
about COVID, but anyway, you know, rest in peace, lady.
But she they picked her up, and they picked them
up and put them on Fox News. And this is
what they would do. So they they understood that wherever
the American people went, they wanted them to meet their message.
And that's why, you know, that's why potent funds right
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wing influencers, that's why they the Republican Party. The big
wigs in the Republican Party will go on these small
podcasts and make give these you know, right wing influencers
a bigger platform.
Speaker 9 (40:15):
That way.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
They don't do that in the Democratic Party, and it's
really frustrating. Maybe they're gonna learn now, But I think
it's because of people like you know, Schumer and the
old guard. They're still standing in the way. Like Schumer,
they shame on them. They still have an ANGELI brand.
Who are my senators still haven't endorsed Mandami. They don't
(40:38):
see you know, I guess I need to do it.
I don't know why they should be, you know. And
they're also funding some other right with some eighty near
eighty year old.
Speaker 9 (40:49):
I'm trying to remember where it is now, but.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
Some of them, yeah, right, instead of the progressive challenger there,
he's endorsing this eighty year old again. Yeah, it's it's time,
you know, for for a sea change in the Democratic
Party in my opinion. But yeah, we we have to
get the message. That's how that's why we're in this boat,
(41:12):
you see. That's why people in these poorly run red states,
where people like Mitch McConnell and the rest do nothing
for the people they pretend to represent.
Speaker 9 (41:23):
In fact, they make their lives as.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Unfortunately, that's all the time we have on this occasion.
I'm sure you will be back. I want to thank
Tara Devlin, the host of.
Speaker 9 (41:36):
Terra Buster podcast thank you.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I want to thank Paul Lisnik, the political and legal
analysts for w g N TV in Chicago, and the
special thanks to my ex intrepid executive producer Mark Grimaldi,
who makes sure the train the show runs on time
is and the train starts on time. Missed the very
(42:00):
best an aggressive progressive online TV at your own peril.
We'll be back soon.
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