May 25, 2023 • 48 mins
Join Jeni and her husband, Jai Holla, the Mindset Jedi Master, in this enlightening episode as they delve into the secrets of being eclectically conscious and gaining a fresh perspective with an open mind. Discover the transformative power of unlocking your full potential and living as your best self by nurturing awareness and understanding the wisdom of your own body. Get ready for a mind-expanding adventure filled with new perspectives, amazing advice, and the realization that growth and evolution come from embracing change and raising your consciousness to new heights.
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Life and fun listening to the Lifeas Podcast present by Say What Radio.
Welcome to another episode of the LifeAdventurous Podcast. I'm Jenny Holly, your
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host, and this is the placeto be if you want to explore things
related to living your best life,exploring the edges of spirituality and energy and
the different realms of consciousness and vibrationalfrequencies and all of that kind of thing.
And of course, because I ama full time traveler living the nomad
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lifestyle, we are in the middleof a really fun little mini series as
part of the podcast where we're exploringsome different things related to living a nomad
lifestyle. So what we've done sofar is a couple episodes ago I talked
about two years lessons that I've hadin the past two years living life is
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a nomad, and then last weekI talked a little bit about what's holding
you back from living a nomad lifestyle? And this week I am super excited
to be here with a really reallypowerful, profound, amazing guest. And
yes he's my husband, but Idon't have to say those things about him.
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I get the honor of being ableto be with him day in and
day out. I really get toexperience the depth of what he has to
offer, and I felt that bringinghim on this little miniseries, bringing him
on the podcast to talk a littlebit about more about what he's been working
on with the Nomadic mindset. Andso, without further ado, we are
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going to welcome the amazing, awesome, I think, super handsome Jayhala.
Hello. You know it's funny becausewe have a podcast together called The Holistic
Life Podcast, and you know,our intros over there are quite different and
quite funky, and the vibe hereis a little bit different, and so
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I wasn't sure how You're going tojump onto this podcast episode. Glad to
be here. Come on, dude, Like, take let your hair down.
I don't have any hair to livedown, I know, I know.
Well, how about you share abit about like I'm gonna, I'm
gonna, I'm I have these questions, but I'm also making sure I don't
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go too much into my THHL likethe Holistic Life persona for this, because
what I'm really curious is like whoare you and kind of what has brought
you to this point in life today, and of course tying it into what
is the nomadic mindset? But that'sthe next question. Yeah, clarified because
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that could go in so many differentdirections, like who am I? As
a very philosophical question, Yeah,that's why I asked it. I asked
it on purpose, So like,which direction do you want to go?
Well, what's what's on your soul? What's on your mind? What's on
your heart? Right now? Toshare in relation to the topic works boring
today? What I just asked?What direction? Like I, who am?
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I'm a very strategic analytical individual,So like, even with questions like
that, my mind goes in fiftymillion directions. So simple answer, I'm
very strategic analytical. Yeah, butlike, no, like you're so much
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more than that. Okay, solet me reframe what has brought you to
this point in your life where you'renow living the nomad lifestyle and you have
been able to create a lot ofthese concepts that we're going to unpack today,
one of them being nomadic mindset,eclectically conscious, and some other things
like what has all brought you tohere? Just wanting to continue to grow
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and evolve simplified, Like, yeah, I could get into upbringing and all
that, but like, honestly,most simplest thing is to want to grow
and evolve because life is about whatlife should be about one living and doing
whatever you can to be the bestversion of yourself. Okay, we'll hold
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on doing whatever you can to bethe best version of yourself. That can
be interpreted a lot of ways,like, well, shoot, I'm gonna
work night, sweaken's lunch breaks allday, all night, because I'm all
about I mean, I'm just thinkingabout that for myself. So what does
that mean, especially in the contextof living a life that is in connection
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with your soul essence, that's inconnection with like who you are meant to
be coming here, so connecting meto that. I mean, it's all
relatively relative, honestly, Like,how do you choose to define the best
version of yourself if you feel thebest version of yourself needs to work like
nights, lunch breaks and weekends,Like, I mean, who am I
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to say you're wrong? I don'tsee that as being the best version of
yourself because you're missing out on somany other things family, friends, situations,
memories, like all these things.So how can you be the best
version of yourself if you're content consistentlygrinding yourself down? I don't see it,
but you know, my lens ofreality, my map of the world
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is my reality and my map ofthe world. That's the whole point of
being eclectically conscious. It's being openenough to have conversations with other people who
don't see the world as you seeit and coming at it from a not
necessarily a different point of view,but their point of view and saying,
huh, I never looked at itthat way, or I'm trying to understand.
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So for someone who was like yo, the best version of myself is
for me to bust my ass likeuntil I'm successful, I don't understand that.
So I would be like, yo, make it make sense for me,
because I don't get it. Idon't see how wearing yourself down,
missing out on like all these otherthings, and like, who told you
that was the way to do it? Like is that your belief or is
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it a learned belief? You know, did your parents or did you see
somebody who did that? And thatwas like planet somewhere deep into you to
be like, yo, this isthe way to do it, and just
having those conversations. So for me, the best version of yourself or being
the you know, living up toyour highest potential. Like for me,
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it's like, how can I usemy gifts to better the world and for
me? And that's like helping otherpeople unlock their full potential. And I'm
not working nights wee, weekends andlunch breaks to do that because if I'm
burnt out, overwhelmed, anxious andtired, you can't pour from an empty
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cup. So that's not being thebest version of myself to help other people
be the best version of themselves.You know, it's interesting having been someone
who lived very much from like thenights, weekends, lunch breaks and work
all the time, and from myperspective, then got like highs off of
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that, right, Like I gotexcited for that, And now where I'm
at, playing with energy and livingin this energetic realm. I mean,
like you said, you can't youcan't pour from a full cup, and
man, like I don't even haveto work. Who can't pour from an
empty cup? You can definitely pourfrom a full cup. Shoot, my
man, Yeah, I was thinkingyou were full of shit, which is
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why I said a full cup sonot you, But like you know,
you're just full of all its crap, So yeah, you're right, that
makes so much more sense you can'tpour from an empty cup. Wow,
I was just thinking, you know, I've now may not be quote unquote
working physically and mentally night's weekends andlunch breaks, but shit, sometimes the
energetic side of things can really putyou in that situation where you don't have
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anything to give. Yeah, Icompletely agree, And I feel one one
thing people are starting to know understandit's starting to be more normalized or more
into the limelight or the mainstream,is like, what happens internally is also
happens externally. So whenever we getsick, Yeah, people could be like,
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oh, well, you know Icaught a cold, I did something
like whatever insert whatever right. Usuallylike for me when I get sick,
I usually get sick once a year, and it's usually when I'm doing too
much and my body says, okay, you don't want to rest, We're
gonna sit your ass down. Soyou're gonna have and it's gonna come in
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a way that you can't do anythingelse but sit laid whatever until we recharge.
And so it's more important for peopleto notice that now instead of being
like, but what we do onceagain, the best version of yourself is
the best version of yourself is burningthe candle at both ends, I would
say no, but like you know, like I said, my map of
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the world, my view of realityis totally different from somebody else's. But
like if you're burning the candel formore both ends and you're like, oh,
I'm sick, I'm feeling guilty,I'm you know, I'm being hard
on myself because I'm not working becauseI should be working instead of being like,
Yo, why the fuck did thiscode take me out like it did?
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What's really going on here? HaveI been pushing too hard? Because
our bodies are so much smarter thanwe are, And I guarantee when it
needs to recoup, re energize whateveryou have no say, you have no
say, it's going to get whatit needs. And because it's our body,
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you know what I'm saying it andit wants to protect us, even
from an energetic spiritual level. Ifyou if you think about this, it
wants us. It wants to protectus. Think about physical fitness and shouting
monks or whatever. You can trainyour body past certain limits, right,
so you can do that, Butif you don't give it what it needs
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to help you do that, it'sit's going to shut down to the point
where you can do nothing but siton your behind or lay in bed and
wondering what's going on until you startto do it again. So it's about
being aware and learning what's really goingon. We don't stop and ask questions.
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We just continue to go, go, go, go, go,
go go. So let's get intowhat the nomadic mindset is. And this
is spelled KNO M A d C. So even talk about why it's spelled
that way and not the typical likenmad like nomadic mindset. Just straight up
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I love playing off words figuratively andliterally because the English language is so vast
and just language in general. Sometimesthe way you spell something can evoke a
certain emotion or trigger something else.And it's just like I love to make
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people think. I love to makepeople think, even if they don't want
to. I love to make youstop and say, hump, did he
say what he said? Or didhe say something else? But you know,
if you think about a nomadch whatdo nomads do? They basically get
up and go like they're in aspace, but basically they don't. They
don't settle. They don't settle,and their whole life is depending on how
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you choose to look at it isan adventure because they're never never, They're
never in one place for a certainamount of time, or they're in one
place for it a certain amount oftime, and it's like, Okay,
cool, I got what I needed. It's time to move on. And
if you think about success, howeveryou choose to define it, you know,
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goals or whatever. I feel alot of people get get complacent and
content of doing things one way,you know, and they use other people
as like, Okay, this persondid it this way, I have to
do it this way or this isthe way I should be doing it right,
you know, look at any socialmedia strategy right now basically saying the
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same thing. And like the wholenomadic mindset thing came came about by you
have to know who you are.And that doesn't come with just staying in
one place. Because when I onceagain my view on reality, my map
of the world, No, no, it can't. If you want to
grow and evolve, I don't thinkyou can stay in one place. Think
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about it, because what you knewat five if you still did the same
thing as you were doing at fiveyears old years old, what would you
do. Now, think about thewhole education system. You know what I'm
saying. You learn a certain amountof information that you have to learn to
go on to the next thing.Right, you don't pass the test and
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they're like, okay, cool,you're done with kindergarten. You can stay
here. You go to first grade, you're hit with a set amount of
certain information first grade, then yougo to second and if you don't,
I don't want to say master,but if you don't get that that information
as gauged by you know, educationalstandards, what do they do if they
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hold you back? So think aboutthat. If you're not growing, if
they're if you're not evolving, you'restaying in the same place until you get
the information that you need or thelessons you need to learn to advance.
So even think about that. Whenyou get your first job, you start
an entry level depending on what thejob is. You learn certain things,
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certain objectives, certain certain information,and then you're allowed to move up the
ladder. If that's your goal.You don't start a job and being like
yo, I've been here for thirtyyears, I'm still like delivering mail in
the mail go right, like nah, so no, I don't. I
don't think you can stay in oneplace and grow unless you're a plan.
That's not the point for us ashuman beings because if that was the point,
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we wouldn't live so long. Youknow what I'm saying, Like,
think about it every year, noteven even My goal is like to learn
something new every day, you know, because I want to be further than
I was every year then I was. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't want to be forty fivestill with I don't want to be
forty five knowing what I knew atforty three and not learning anything else since
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forty three, you know what I'msaying. So when I'm eighty ninety one
hundred or whatever, like I wantto be able to teach, reach back
and share that information. So no, me personally like, nah, I
don't. I don't believe you canbe stagnant and grow. Yeah, Like
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that's like sitting in mud and beinglike, yeah, I'm just here,
I'm here growing. So like thenomadic mindset is like you have to know
yourself and you you have to knowthat growth, evolving and success comes with
you not being in one place buttaking a journey. Life is a journey.
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So let's I want to talk aboutone more scenario of being in one
place, because I think there's acouple aspects here. So if I'm the
farmer across the street and I've livedthere the majority of my life, I've
never moved. I know all thesame people, I drive the same streets.
Couldn't the farmer who stays in oneplace, because we are talking about
nomad, which is moving around,right, So could the farmer who stays
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in one place and is still learningsomething new every day? You know,
they're learning new farming techniques and they'relearning whatever whatever it is that they're into.
They're learning new ways to live offthe land or new ways to grow,
and they're still living in the samespace. Could they still have a
nomadic mindset? Or does it haveto be someone who's, you know,
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moving around. Noah, it definitelydoesn't have to be someone who's like you're
I feel you're speaking nomad as inliterally, and I'm speaking no mad as
in figuratively. So yeah, afarmer could be in the same spot for
thirty years, but I guarantee he'sstill when when he started or she started
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farming. You know what I'm sayingthey've they've learned still a lot of information
in that thirty years. So ona business level, on a mental level,
on a farmer level. Yeah,they have a nomadic mindset. No,
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they're not nomads. And I thinkthat's the thing too, because we
are figuratively living the nomadic mindset,moving around and expanding mentally, physically,
emotionally, spiritually. Yeah, soyou don't have to be like, oh
shit, I need to sell anythingand excuse me, sell everything and bounce
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around and have this nomadic minds.No, that's not what it's about.
That's why it's spilled the way itis because you have to know, like
I said, you have to knowthat that growth, evolution, change,
transformation comes from the journey. Itcould be the journey of the mind,
it could be the journey of education, it could be the journey of emotion.
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But there has to be some sortof sort of journey because from the
day you take your first breath tothe day you take your last breath is
a journey of life. So evenwith that, figuratively life is a nomadic
journey. Yeah, you know,it's it's interesting because we talk about you
know, yes, there's like thenomad aspect of it of moving around and
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the you know that piece, Butthen there's the kno madic mindset, like
how you talked about why and wherethis came from and from my experience,
my personal experience having always been intotravel and seeing new places and being around
different people and cultures and scenarios,I personally believe that there is so much
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power in having that be an aspectof your life where you're not always in
the same areas, same spaces,around the same people, in the same
thinking and if you can you canmaybe still live in the same place,
but if you can expand your youknow, like because one of the things
we were talking before we pressed recordwas like a nomad is constantly moving in
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front of new people, experiences,learning, growing, evolving. So if
you're not wanting to live a nomadlifestyle, then how can you continue to
put yourself in these new scenarios becauseyou can get real damn comfortable, right,
So for me, I feel likeit's really valuable to get out there,
and I feel it depends on anindividual, right, It definitely depends
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on an individual. And with technologylike not only being where it is but
also where it's going, I agreewith you. There is something special about
getting out of your area, yourcity, you're whatever, and traveling to
different places. You may stop yourpreference. I just think of like northern
Idaho, the majority of people havevery similar beliefs. And I'm sure there's
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other places in the world, youknow, like where you live in a
star area, everybody shares. It'slike I said, that's why I brought
up technology, because I when whenfu Man, I'm dating myself. I
know I said an age. Ididn't say I was those ages and you
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just you just told my age.Well you are already that Still, I
could have been on it anywhere anyway. Um, back in the AOL days,
you know what I'm saying, thedial up days, it was like
chat rooms. Chat rooms were likehundreds of people in these chat rooms,
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right, and it's craze, justgoing, just going and just going.
Like the majority of my friends andassociates weren't in Houston. They were all
over the country. Like I couldyou. It was I kind of hate
I lost contact with a lot ofthese people. But you could you could
say a state, not even astate, you could say almost any place
in the world, and I wouldknow somebody there if not two or three
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people, right, So, yes, I didn't travel. I didn't leave
you know what I'm saying Houston ona regular basis. But I was very
cultured, you know, because meand these people we would talk about music,
the music. I listened to themusic, they listened to what was
going on in their cities. Sostill that was a way for me to
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get out and still travel without traveling, you know. So there's still ways
to do it. That's my wholepoint. There's still ways to do it,
but there's something different about actually gettingout and going. And you can
always go back home. You canalways go back home, but like actually
getting out and going to these differentplaces. Wow. I mean I'm sitting
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here and having been alongside you onthis journey as you've been developing this,
I am constantly in awe of howyou put all these pieces together and how
you're able to look at things verymultidimensionally, because just in general, you
know, you've got the nomadic mindset, and especially coming off a last week's
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episode where I'm like, Okay,what's holding you back? And a lot
of times, you know, wehave our own limitations, and you're like,
look, here's the thing. Yes, you can apply the mindset to
a nomadic lifestyle, but taking theseconcepts of you know, not wanting to
be complacent, not getting used tothings, You're constantly moving, You're you're
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growing, you're expanding, you're opening, you're open to new impossibilities. It
does not matter the physicality of whereyou are. That's why it's a mindset,
the nomadic mindset, that's what isthe core. Like, I don't
know, I know this is sosimple, yet at the same time,
like I'm like, whoa holy crowd. This is how it all comes together
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because it's not just Hey, we'renomads and it's cute and it's nomadic mindset.
Na. Man, when you operate, things go multiple layers deep.
Yeah, I can't. I've beenlike that. I can't say where it
came from. Maybe I could,Maybe I could. Being born with a
visual impairment, you know, beingbullied, being ridiculed, being a person
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with a with a good heart,but kind of seeing like if you show
up a certain way, will excuseme, not even show up if you
look a certain way, you knowwhat I'm saying, if you look look
different from other people. The thetrauma that that brings up. So I
learned to camouflage. I learned toblend in, and with that I learned
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that like everybody wears man. Ilearned as a very very young age and
with a help of my father,who wasn't really around in a typical father
type of role because he had hisown drama to deal with um. But
he never sugarcoated anything, like evenat a young a he never you never
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sugarcoated anything. Some people might like, look at some of the conversations or
some of the things he did,be like, yo, you're not a
good father, but look yo,I'm here. So he did something right,
but it was I had an awesomesupport system, and the trauma helped
me survive, you know, becauseI didn't want to be made fun of.
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So I learned how to blend in. And learning how to blend in,
I noticed that, you know whatI'm saying, people would act certain
ways, so I wouldn't which overyears of practicing, watching, observing or
whatever, I didn't, I wouldn'thave to ask you a question because your
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actions are gonna tell me, likehow you're going to move Like I don't
because I feel if I ask youa question you're going to tell me what
you want me to know. You'regoing to tell me what you think I
want to hear. But if Isit and just watch you, that tells
me everything I need to know.So within like five to fifteen minutes or
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just listening to somebody, I prettymuch have a good read on them.
I read a lot, I listenedto a lot of music, and I
just watched observing. Like in inI always looked for the lesson in everything
you know. So yes, likeoh oh it's cute. No matter mindset,
they're they're they're on the road.Nah. Nah, I mean no
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matter what you do. My mindsetis mandatory, which is another thing,
you know what I'm saying eclectically conscious, Like I said, like truth is
relative. I see reality different fromsomebody else. My map of the world
is different from somebody else because ofmy upbringings, my traumas, where I've
been, what I've experienced, allthat that comes into plays a part in
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my belief system. Right. Butif the bigger pictures are overall pictures is
wanting to be a better Jay andraise the consciousness of the world. I
have to be open to how doesJenny move, you know, what I'm
saying, How does Schurl move,how does Victor move? How does she
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kindre move? And what can Iunderstand from how they see, how they
lived, how they experienced life,and how can I take the parts I
vibe with and become a better me? Because if you're able to listen,
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understand, hold these conversations without anybias, any judgment, or whatever,
you become more self aware, whichraises your consciousness, which ultimately raises the
collective consciousness. So poltically conscious comesfrom like, Okay, my belief system
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is this way because I grew upblack in a in a in a single
parent home, single single parent househome, how household, you know what
I'm saying. Not with a lotof money. So there's stuff there,
right, But is that reality?Like what beliefs came from that? And
what beliefs are true? You know? And exposing myself to other things outside
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of my bubble of comfort or ormy bubble of of reality, you know
what I'm saying. And so,and that's where the elec eclectically conscious come
from. It's just pulling from everywhere, not just one thing. Yeah,
you know one thing that is feelingreally clear to me, right, now,
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and this is something that's been bubblingup recently, and I feel like
there's a couple layers to it,and there's of course nuanced like anything else.
Like you said that your perception yourmap of the world. You know,
this is kind of what you knowbased on your life, your experiences,
etc. Right, And everybody hasa map of the world. Everybody
has a perception, everybody has theirtruths, their beliefs, their experiences.
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Right. And one thing that isjust really feeling super clear to me right
now is when we're on this journeyand we're growing, and you you want
to work with somebody, right,like what Jay's talking about. With the
nomadic mindset and eclectically conscious, you'reessentially like drawn to someone not only from
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an energetic level, but you arewanting to learn, borrow, get this
like mind map concept, right,Like you like their map of the world.
It's expansive, it's going to helpyou grow, it's gonna help you
shift. And so that's what Ifeel like, not only you, but
like the idea of nomadic mindset andeclectically conscious is like, hey, these
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are mind maps that you can stepinto to help you align more to your
true essence of who you are,because when you adapt a nomadic mindset,
and this is how you, youknow, decide to operate from, it's
going to by nature expand you.And I think about all the people that
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I'm learning from, you know,I'm coming to learn like I don't want
to be like them, but thereare certain mind maps that they have that
I'm really drawn to because they thinkabout things very differently than me, and
so there's an expansiveness to that,right. And so it's really interesting because
I had a vision of you herein the last few minutes. I had
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a vision of you sharing this messagewide and far and just seeing you sitting
in all these different like it alljust flashed through so quickly where it's like
I'm saying, I see you sittinglike in a radio podcast type of studio
with people just having this conversation talkingabout the power of a nomadic mindset and
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the power of eclectically conscious and howthis all comes together. Like I'm seeing
visions of you doing this and allthese different scenarios sitting on a stage kind
of like an Oprah type of stage. You're sitting there and you're just sharing
what's on your mind and what's onyour heart? Like, I'm just seeing
all these visions come in really quickly. Because this is bigger than the Life
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Adventist podcast. This is bigger thanthe Holistic Life podcast. This is bigger
than Jenny and Jay. This isbigger than Jay Tapping into the energy.
Okay, you may not put wordson it like this, but I feel
like what you've brought together, it'slike you're creating like an energy grid or
like an energy I don't even knowwhat to call it, but it's like
you're creating this energetic consciousness or something. I don't even know what to call
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it, but you're like, andyou're inviting people into this because when we're
like, do you I don't evenknow, it's like, do you feel
like when we're all in this togetherand we're all adapting and stepping into the
nomadic mindset and we're being all toclearly conscious and we could probably unpack that
one a little bit more, islike the more of us that are adapting
us the I don't like this thesewords, but it's like the higher we
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rise, right, like, themore we all grow together because we're all
energetically tapping into this concept living itbreathing it, expanding it, and then
as you know, as a asa unit, we're all growing impacting together.
Now that's interesting because I mean,you said it, and it's this
is just my personality. I don'tknow if someone would call it a limiting
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belief or whatever, but like mything is like if it's this or version
of this I'm saying, I reallyI really don't care if it's the the
concept and that's what you're talking about, stepping into the concept not next not
necessarily a eclectically conscious concept or anomadic mindset concept, but the concept of
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being just conscious. When I sayconscious, I don't mean woke, Like
we're not even go in there.But you know what I'm saying it you're
you're raising up to a different frequency. I feel, yes, like collectively,
collectively, we would be a betterpeople. Not black, white,
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man, woman, whatever, youknow what I'm saying, Christian, Muslim,
whatever, No, we would bea better people. Like and I
hear stuff like that. I seelike those maps of the United States you'd
see in school with all the boundaries, you know what I'm saying, But
like if you look at that likereal life, like looking at the world
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from space. You don't see anyfucking boundary. You don't say, like,
yo, that's Texas, you know. I mean, you know the
general area of Texas, But Texasfrom the sky doesn't look like the fucking
picture they give you to study ina classroom. Right. So when I
hear labels like a religious label oran ethnic label, I'm like, Yo,
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that's just something that divides us becausewe're people. So what we can
grasp the betterment of the people.You know what I'm saying. I don't
care if you're black, White,you know, Indian, Chinese, Hispanic.
I see you, that's my brotheror that's my sister, and I
feel, yes, yes, ifyou can tap into that frequency no matter
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what it's called, or more leadersthought leaders start to step up and teach
that, then yes, that wouldraise the consciousness of the people. I'm
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sitting here in a short amount ofsilence because I feel like what I want
to say is but it's not eventhis, because I feel like I want
to be like, Okay, agreeto disagree, but it's not that we
disagree. It's just more in thein the verbiage, in the way that
it's being explained or categorized or labeledright, okay, because I that's why
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I was like a little bit ofloss from words. I mean, yeah,
so let's let's dig in before weyou know, as like before we
like wrap up, Let's dig ina little bit deeper into eclectically conscious.
You touched on it a bit earlier. What does that mean to be eclectically
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conscious? And I can't I haveto say this because this song lyric keeps
playing in my mind. Is theit's a vibe. It's a frequency that
keeps playing in my mind because Ifeel like like what you're talking about is
it's a vibe, It's a frequency. It's tapping into this vibe in this
frequency. I mean in a sense. Yeah. But being eclectically conscious is
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basically tearing down the the wall ofbelief you've built up from learn beliefs or
whatever, and asking yourself like howmany times says we stopped and ask ourselves,
am I going to church because Ireally believe in God? Or is
this something I've just learned because myfamily has done it? Like, what
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are what are my belief system?My belief system? What are my belief
systems? You know? And it'sit's being able to sit with someone who
has a whole different belief set thanyou have, and not arguing who's right
or wrong or but once like,I'm here because I want to understand you,
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because we're probably more like than weare different. And just because this
is my religious faith and you havea religious faith that that isn't like mine,
we can't even fuck with each otherbecause your faith is wrong and mine
is right. Just like yo,Like okay, tell me about the Hebrew
stuff, Tell me about Buddha,tell me about Allah. You know what
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I'm saying, Tell me about Godso I can sit and see where the
common denominators are. Like I couldbe like, yo, that's crazy and
a Bible. There's a book ofjob that just described what you described in
your faith or in my faith.We do this right, Like for me
religion, I see religion as asI equated to martial arts. Right,
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there's a lot of different religions,as a lot of different martial arts.
Just because you do taekwondo doesn't meanthat judo is wrong, you know what
I'm saying. Just because someone hasa masters as a mastery and keto doesn't
mean that tai chi is wrong.They're all from the same basis. But
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someone chose to study a particular art, even that it's a particular art that
they chose to study that aligned withwho they are and where they want to
go because they feel that particular artwill help them progress, grow and evolve.
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Same thing with religious religious faith frommy point of view, So eclectically
conscious is about being open to otherpeoples, and it's only specific to faith
and religion. No, No,it's that That was just an example.
Okay, it's related to everything.Okay, I'm glad we cleared that up.
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Because I was using religion as anexample to paint a picture, because
if you think about it, newspaints like here in America, Oh,
we're mainly Christian, right, Oh, these Muslims. Think about that.
These Muslims, they point out aspecific religious group, not even a religious
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group, a group of individuals whopractice a certain religious faith. Right,
And so mentally psychologically you say,oh, Muslims are bad, right in
your watching this group of individuals whodid something wrong to this religious faith.
So I was just using religious religionas an example. Okay, Okay,
I want to get or maybe Imissed it because that's sometimes common with me.
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And you like your a couple stepsahead of me and it takes me
a minute to catch up. Somaybe the listeners already got it, but
I'm I'm like the essence of eclecticallyconscious like tearing down your belief system.
That's that's that's the core of it, tearing down your belief system, well,
tearing down the belief system you thoughtwas yours and really finding out what
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you believe. Okay, well,I guess I'm thinking because this is literally
just in the moment here, becauseyou're working on some apparel and I was
like, just with the words ofeclectically conscious, I was excited to wear
that gear, like, yeah,colectically conscious, and I guess I thought
it had like another aspect to it. Maybe that's something to expelor because I
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love the tearing down the walls ofbelief that you're saying, because I just
made a post on social media todaywhere I talked about that, like I'm
continuously like unearthing things that weren't evermind to begin with, but I held
on to them as if they weremine. So eclectically conscious, like I've
for you five years ago, whensomeone may have brought up the Acashic records,
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you might have been like, Imean, I don't know, you're
talking about channeling something, right,Like, isn't that wrong? Maybe not
five years ago, maybe further right, but it's like that's kind of weird,
right, instead of being like likeI feel now you stepping into that
or or experiencing and that all startedwith you reading a book and being more
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open to, hey, what isthis? That is an example of being
eclectically conscious because this has opened upmore doors for you and it's it's and
it's learning from your keynote people yearsago, right, And still like now
you're stepping into this, this mentalityof being eclectically conscious because before this is
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how you showed up. If youdidn't create your own stuff, you weren't
worth shit, right, And thisis the way we do things. This
is the way it's supposed to bedone if you want to be successful,
Like this is the status symbol forsuccess. Right. And I feel for
a moment you were you were youwere running down that path and then like
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there was a transition, the roadwas blocked to some shit. You had
to turn around and find another way, right, And it's like huhh,
well, this person is saying somethingelse, right, this goes completely against
what this person was saying about speakingin and the blueprint for success, right,
but this person is always are alsosuccessful doing it their way. It
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clectically consciousness, like challenging that beliefsystem that you thought was the belief system
and saying is it the belief system? And if it is, that's cool,
But until you kind of like,okay, let me let me step
out the comfort zone, right,let me let me dabble a little bit,
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let me ask questions, let mebecome a little more self aware,
let me see who else is doingthis? Is this person just a fluke?
How does this like? Joe Anne, Joe told you, how does
it feel? Not what is itsupposed to be? But how does it
feel? I've been doing this foreverand it just felt wrong? What else
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is out there not saying all thisis wrong? Because there's some stuff you
learned in NSAY that still helps youtoday. But you've also learned some other
stuff from Amanda, Emily vio letted, Joanne, you know what I'm saying
your other guests on your podcast,and it's just like raising your consciousness.
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Awesome. I'm taking notes and I'mtaking it all in of what you're saying,
because you say so many really goodthings and I want to be able
to reflect that back to you.And the good thing is that you have
this podcast to listen to once itgoes live to be able to reflect and
use all this. So as wewrap up, you're really good at this.
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You've been people you know, someone'sbeen listening this whole time. They
probably have so many things, likeso many inspirations, so many different like
exciting moments, payings, revelations,etc. Like what would be basically I'm
asking for you to kind of someit all up, like what would be
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like the one action step or theone thing you want them to remember from
all this or you invite them toremember. Mindset is mandatory, not necessarily
a nomadic mindset, but whatever youwant to do, whatever you're aiming to
do, you have to have acertain mindset for it. And it's knowing
that having that mandatory mindset for itinsert whatever will probably lead you on a
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k and O nomadic journey of meaningdifferent people, having different experiences, learning
different things, challenging your own selfbeliefs, which will bring you to be
eclectically conscious and hopefully will make youwant to help somebody else do the same
thing. That's beautiful. You triggeredanother question to me when you said that
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with it being about mindset is mandatory, which leads to the nomadic mindset,
right, Like everything and you weretalking about feel like a lot about what
I've been learning lately and talking aboutis really dropping into your heart and making
decisions from your heart and from acentered place and from your soul. So
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how does that tie in to themindset piece, Because you know, you
can have the overthinking aspect of thingsand you're like mindset, Like, just
talk about how that ties in.Like I said, like, however you
choose to attach to a situation,however you choose to label it good about
or whatever, even if that,like your mindset is mandatory. You know,
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if you feel if you feel likesuccess has to come with you putting
everything else on the back burner untilyou get there, that's a certain mindset
somewhere. It's like, what mindsetare you choosing? Yeah, somewhere,
somebody somewhere told you that you haveto have a mandatory mindset to bust your
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ass until you're successful. Right,So, same type of it's a choice,
But what are you choosing right,like you know, the whole control
piece, Like you can control howyou react to something. You may not
be able to control the things thatare happening, but you control you can
control how you respond, right,So the whole tappenings here, your your
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your heart is knowing that you're listeningto your intuition, knowing that it might
not look like once again, youknow what I'm saying, you thought it
should should look, challenging those beliefs, tearing down those walls, but understanding
like if you if you're choosing tofollow your heart, it's got to be
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a certain mindset there. Yeah,yeah, because it's it's almost as if
that is the foundation that helps youto continue to move forward. That's why
mindset is mandatory, because mindset isthe foundation. You could build a solid
foundation and you could build a shakyfoundation. A choice is yours, but
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whatever you choose, the mindset ismandatory. It's like the distinction between the
mindset which is very different than usingyour mind and being in your mind and
overthinking, which is still a mindset, but they are different. There's like
a there's a slight distinction there.I love it as always. Thank you
for sharing your wisdom. I'm gladthat you guys got to meet Jay through
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the podcast. If you don't already, you know, follow me or follow
us outside of this podcast. Yougot to meet Jay and hear a bit
about his wisdom and what he's offeringout into the world. Do you have
anything that you feel like wasn't saidthat you would want to share right now?
Nah? Follow me on social what'sthe best place? Where would you
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want to be followed? On YouTube? Oh? Yeah, that's that's the
best place if you want to seeif you want to hear if yeah,
YouTube is is the best because everythingelse is branching out from YouTube and your
YouTube is the same as the titleof this episode, Nomadic Mindset. Yeah,
yeah, I love it. Yeah. Well, thank you for joining
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me, Thanks for being here.Stay tuned next week, We've got another
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Life and fun listening to the Lifeas Podcast present by Say What Radio.
Welcome to another episode of the LifeAdventurous Podcast. I'm Jenny Holly, your
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host, and this is the placeto be if you want to explore things
related to living your best life,exploring the edges of spirituality and energy and
the different realms of consciousness and vibrationalfrequencies and all of that kind of thing.
And of course, because I ama full time traveler living the nomad
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lifestyle, we are in the middleof a really fun little mini series as
part of the podcast where we're exploringsome different things related to living a nomad
lifestyle. So what we've done sofar is a couple episodes ago I talked
about two years lessons that I've hadin the past two years living life is
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a nomad, and then last weekI talked a little bit about what's holding
you back from living a nomad lifestyle? And this week I am super excited
to be here with a really reallypowerful, profound, amazing guest. And
yes he's my husband, but Idon't have to say those things about him.
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I get the honor of being ableto be with him day in and
day out. I really get toexperience the depth of what he has to
offer, and I felt that bringinghim on this little miniseries, bringing him
on the podcast to talk a littlebit about more about what he's been working
on with the Nomadic mindset. Andso, without further ado, we are
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going to welcome the amazing, awesome, I think, super handsome Jayhala.
Hello. You know it's funny becausewe have a podcast together called The Holistic
Life Podcast, and you know,our intros over there are quite different and
quite funky, and the vibe hereis a little bit different, and so
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I wasn't sure how You're going tojump onto this podcast episode. Glad to
be here. Come on, dude, Like, take let your hair down.
I don't have any hair to livedown, I know, I know.
Well, how about you share abit about like I'm gonna, I'm
gonna, I'm I have these questions, but I'm also making sure I don't
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go too much into my THHL likethe Holistic Life persona for this, because
what I'm really curious is like whoare you and kind of what has brought
you to this point in life today, and of course tying it into what
is the nomadic mindset? But that'sthe next question. Yeah, clarified because
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that could go in so many differentdirections, like who am I? As
a very philosophical question, Yeah,that's why I asked it. I asked
it on purpose, So like,which direction do you want to go?
Well, what's what's on your soul? What's on your mind? What's on
your heart? Right now? Toshare in relation to the topic works boring
today? What I just asked?What direction? Like I, who am?
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I'm a very strategic analytical individual,So like, even with questions like
that, my mind goes in fiftymillion directions. So simple answer, I'm
very strategic analytical. Yeah, butlike, no, like you're so much
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more than that. Okay, solet me reframe what has brought you to
this point in your life where you'renow living the nomad lifestyle and you have
been able to create a lot ofthese concepts that we're going to unpack today,
one of them being nomadic mindset,eclectically conscious, and some other things
like what has all brought you tohere? Just wanting to continue to grow
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and evolve simplified, Like, yeah, I could get into upbringing and all
that, but like, honestly,most simplest thing is to want to grow
and evolve because life is about whatlife should be about one living and doing
whatever you can to be the bestversion of yourself. Okay, we'll hold
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on doing whatever you can to bethe best version of yourself. That can
be interpreted a lot of ways,like, well, shoot, I'm gonna
work night, sweaken's lunch breaks allday, all night, because I'm all
about I mean, I'm just thinkingabout that for myself. So what does
that mean, especially in the contextof living a life that is in connection
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with your soul essence, that's inconnection with like who you are meant to
be coming here, so connecting meto that. I mean, it's all
relatively relative, honestly, Like,how do you choose to define the best
version of yourself if you feel thebest version of yourself needs to work like
nights, lunch breaks and weekends,Like, I mean, who am I
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to say you're wrong? I don'tsee that as being the best version of
yourself because you're missing out on somany other things family, friends, situations,
memories, like all these things.So how can you be the best
version of yourself if you're content consistentlygrinding yourself down? I don't see it,
but you know, my lens ofreality, my map of the world
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is my reality and my map ofthe world. That's the whole point of
being eclectically conscious. It's being openenough to have conversations with other people who
don't see the world as you seeit and coming at it from a not
necessarily a different point of view,but their point of view and saying,
huh, I never looked at itthat way, or I'm trying to understand.
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So for someone who was like yo, the best version of myself is
for me to bust my ass likeuntil I'm successful, I don't understand that.
So I would be like, yo, make it make sense for me,
because I don't get it. Idon't see how wearing yourself down,
missing out on like all these otherthings, and like, who told you
that was the way to do it? Like is that your belief or is
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it a learned belief? You know, did your parents or did you see
somebody who did that? And thatwas like planet somewhere deep into you to
be like, yo, this isthe way to do it, and just
having those conversations. So for me, the best version of yourself or being
the you know, living up toyour highest potential. Like for me,
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it's like, how can I usemy gifts to better the world and for
me? And that's like helping otherpeople unlock their full potential. And I'm
not working nights wee, weekends andlunch breaks to do that because if I'm
burnt out, overwhelmed, anxious andtired, you can't pour from an empty
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cup. So that's not being thebest version of myself to help other people
be the best version of themselves.You know, it's interesting having been someone
who lived very much from like thenights, weekends, lunch breaks and work
all the time, and from myperspective, then got like highs off of
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that, right, Like I gotexcited for that, And now where I'm
at, playing with energy and livingin this energetic realm. I mean,
like you said, you can't youcan't pour from a full cup, and
man, like I don't even haveto work. Who can't pour from an
empty cup? You can definitely pourfrom a full cup. Shoot, my
man, Yeah, I was thinkingyou were full of shit, which is
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why I said a full cup sonot you, But like you know,
you're just full of all its crap, So yeah, you're right, that
makes so much more sense you can'tpour from an empty cup. Wow,
I was just thinking, you know, I've now may not be quote unquote
working physically and mentally night's weekends andlunch breaks, but shit, sometimes the
energetic side of things can really putyou in that situation where you don't have
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anything to give. Yeah, Icompletely agree, And I feel one one
thing people are starting to know understandit's starting to be more normalized or more
into the limelight or the mainstream,is like, what happens internally is also
happens externally. So whenever we getsick, Yeah, people could be like,
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oh, well, you know Icaught a cold, I did something
like whatever insert whatever right. Usuallylike for me when I get sick,
I usually get sick once a year, and it's usually when I'm doing too
much and my body says, okay, you don't want to rest, We're
gonna sit your ass down. Soyou're gonna have and it's gonna come in
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a way that you can't do anythingelse but sit laid whatever until we recharge.
And so it's more important for peopleto notice that now instead of being
like, but what we do onceagain, the best version of yourself is
the best version of yourself is burningthe candle at both ends, I would
say no, but like you know, like I said, my map of
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the world, my view of realityis totally different from somebody else's. But
like if you're burning the candel formore both ends and you're like, oh,
I'm sick, I'm feeling guilty,I'm you know, I'm being hard
on myself because I'm not working becauseI should be working instead of being like,
Yo, why the fuck did thiscode take me out like it did?
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What's really going on here? HaveI been pushing too hard? Because
our bodies are so much smarter thanwe are, And I guarantee when it
needs to recoup, re energize whateveryou have no say, you have no
say, it's going to get whatit needs. And because it's our body,
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you know what I'm saying it andit wants to protect us, even
from an energetic spiritual level. Ifyou if you think about this, it
wants us. It wants to protectus. Think about physical fitness and shouting
monks or whatever. You can trainyour body past certain limits, right,
so you can do that, Butif you don't give it what it needs
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to help you do that, it'sit's going to shut down to the point
where you can do nothing but siton your behind or lay in bed and
wondering what's going on until you startto do it again. So it's about
being aware and learning what's really goingon. We don't stop and ask questions.
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We just continue to go, go, go, go, go,
go go. So let's get intowhat the nomadic mindset is. And this
is spelled KNO M A d C. So even talk about why it's spelled
that way and not the typical likenmad like nomadic mindset. Just straight up
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I love playing off words figuratively andliterally because the English language is so vast
and just language in general. Sometimesthe way you spell something can evoke a
certain emotion or trigger something else.And it's just like I love to make
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people think. I love to makepeople think, even if they don't want
to. I love to make youstop and say, hump, did he
say what he said? Or didhe say something else? But you know,
if you think about a nomadch whatdo nomads do? They basically get
up and go like they're in aspace, but basically they don't. They
don't settle. They don't settle,and their whole life is depending on how
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you choose to look at it isan adventure because they're never never, They're
never in one place for a certainamount of time, or they're in one
place for it a certain amount oftime, and it's like, Okay,
cool, I got what I needed. It's time to move on. And
if you think about success, howeveryou choose to define it, you know,
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goals or whatever. I feel alot of people get get complacent and
content of doing things one way,you know, and they use other people
as like, Okay, this persondid it this way, I have to
do it this way or this isthe way I should be doing it right,
you know, look at any socialmedia strategy right now basically saying the
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same thing. And like the wholenomadic mindset thing came came about by you
have to know who you are.And that doesn't come with just staying in
one place. Because when I onceagain my view on reality, my map
of the world, No, no, it can't. If you want to
grow and evolve, I don't thinkyou can stay in one place. Think
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about it, because what you knewat five if you still did the same
thing as you were doing at fiveyears old years old, what would you
do. Now, think about thewhole education system. You know what I'm
saying. You learn a certain amountof information that you have to learn to
go on to the next thing.Right, you don't pass the test and
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they're like, okay, cool,you're done with kindergarten. You can stay
here. You go to first grade, you're hit with a set amount of
certain information first grade, then yougo to second and if you don't,
I don't want to say master,but if you don't get that that information
as gauged by you know, educationalstandards, what do they do if they
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hold you back? So think aboutthat. If you're not growing, if
they're if you're not evolving, you'restaying in the same place until you get
the information that you need or thelessons you need to learn to advance.
So even think about that. Whenyou get your first job, you start
an entry level depending on what thejob is. You learn certain things,
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certain objectives, certain certain information,and then you're allowed to move up the
ladder. If that's your goal.You don't start a job and being like
yo, I've been here for thirtyyears, I'm still like delivering mail in
the mail go right, like nah, so no, I don't. I
don't think you can stay in oneplace and grow unless you're a plan.
That's not the point for us ashuman beings because if that was the point,
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we wouldn't live so long. Youknow what I'm saying, Like,
think about it every year, noteven even My goal is like to learn
something new every day, you know, because I want to be further than
I was every year then I was. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't want to be forty fivestill with I don't want to be
forty five knowing what I knew atforty three and not learning anything else since
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forty three, you know what I'msaying. So when I'm eighty ninety one
hundred or whatever, like I wantto be able to teach, reach back
and share that information. So no, me personally like, nah, I
don't. I don't believe you canbe stagnant and grow. Yeah, Like
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that's like sitting in mud and beinglike, yeah, I'm just here,
I'm here growing. So like thenomadic mindset is like you have to know
yourself and you you have to knowthat growth, evolving and success comes with
you not being in one place buttaking a journey. Life is a journey.
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So let's I want to talk aboutone more scenario of being in one
place, because I think there's acouple aspects here. So if I'm the
farmer across the street and I've livedthere the majority of my life, I've
never moved. I know all thesame people, I drive the same streets.
Couldn't the farmer who stays in oneplace, because we are talking about
nomad, which is moving around,right, So could the farmer who stays
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in one place and is still learningsomething new every day? You know,
they're learning new farming techniques and they'relearning whatever whatever it is that they're into.
They're learning new ways to live offthe land or new ways to grow,
and they're still living in the samespace. Could they still have a
nomadic mindset? Or does it haveto be someone who's, you know,
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moving around. Noah, it definitelydoesn't have to be someone who's like you're
I feel you're speaking nomad as inliterally, and I'm speaking no mad as
in figuratively. So yeah, afarmer could be in the same spot for
thirty years, but I guarantee he'sstill when when he started or she started
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farming. You know what I'm sayingthey've they've learned still a lot of information
in that thirty years. So ona business level, on a mental level,
on a farmer level. Yeah,they have a nomadic mindset. No,
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they're not nomads. And I thinkthat's the thing too, because we
are figuratively living the nomadic mindset,moving around and expanding mentally, physically,
emotionally, spiritually. Yeah, soyou don't have to be like, oh
shit, I need to sell anythingand excuse me, sell everything and bounce
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around and have this nomadic minds.No, that's not what it's about.
That's why it's spilled the way itis because you have to know, like
I said, you have to knowthat that growth, evolution, change,
transformation comes from the journey. Itcould be the journey of the mind,
it could be the journey of education, it could be the journey of emotion.
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But there has to be some sortof sort of journey because from the
day you take your first breath tothe day you take your last breath is
a journey of life. So evenwith that, figuratively life is a nomadic
journey. Yeah, you know,it's it's interesting because we talk about you
know, yes, there's like thenomad aspect of it of moving around and
(18:22):
the you know that piece, Butthen there's the kno madic mindset, like
how you talked about why and wherethis came from and from my experience,
my personal experience having always been intotravel and seeing new places and being around
different people and cultures and scenarios,I personally believe that there is so much
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power in having that be an aspectof your life where you're not always in
the same areas, same spaces,around the same people, in the same
thinking and if you can you canmaybe still live in the same place,
but if you can expand your youknow, like because one of the things
we were talking before we pressed recordwas like a nomad is constantly moving in
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front of new people, experiences,learning, growing, evolving. So if
you're not wanting to live a nomadlifestyle, then how can you continue to
put yourself in these new scenarios becauseyou can get real damn comfortable, right,
So for me, I feel likeit's really valuable to get out there,
and I feel it depends on anindividual, right, It definitely depends
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on an individual. And with technologylike not only being where it is but
also where it's going, I agreewith you. There is something special about
getting out of your area, yourcity, you're whatever, and traveling to
different places. You may stop yourpreference. I just think of like northern
Idaho, the majority of people havevery similar beliefs. And I'm sure there's
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other places in the world, youknow, like where you live in a
star area, everybody shares. It'slike I said, that's why I brought
up technology, because I when whenfu Man, I'm dating myself. I
know I said an age. Ididn't say I was those ages and you
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just you just told my age.Well you are already that Still, I
could have been on it anywhere anyway. Um, back in the AOL days,
you know what I'm saying, thedial up days, it was like
chat rooms. Chat rooms were likehundreds of people in these chat rooms,
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right, and it's craze, justgoing, just going and just going.
Like the majority of my friends andassociates weren't in Houston. They were all
over the country. Like I couldyou. It was I kind of hate
I lost contact with a lot ofthese people. But you could you could
say a state, not even astate, you could say almost any place
in the world, and I wouldknow somebody there if not two or three
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people, right, So, yes, I didn't travel. I didn't leave
you know what I'm saying Houston ona regular basis. But I was very
cultured, you know, because meand these people we would talk about music,
the music. I listened to themusic, they listened to what was
going on in their cities. Sostill that was a way for me to
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get out and still travel without traveling, you know. So there's still ways
to do it. That's my wholepoint. There's still ways to do it,
but there's something different about actually gettingout and going. And you can
always go back home. You canalways go back home, but like actually
getting out and going to these differentplaces. Wow. I mean I'm sitting
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here and having been alongside you onthis journey as you've been developing this,
I am constantly in awe of howyou put all these pieces together and how
you're able to look at things verymultidimensionally, because just in general, you
know, you've got the nomadic mindset, and especially coming off a last week's
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episode where I'm like, Okay,what's holding you back? And a lot
of times, you know, wehave our own limitations, and you're like,
look, here's the thing. Yes, you can apply the mindset to
a nomadic lifestyle, but taking theseconcepts of you know, not wanting to
be complacent, not getting used tothings, You're constantly moving, You're you're
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growing, you're expanding, you're opening, you're open to new impossibilities. It
does not matter the physicality of whereyou are. That's why it's a mindset,
the nomadic mindset, that's what isthe core. Like, I don't
know, I know this is sosimple, yet at the same time,
like I'm like, whoa holy crowd. This is how it all comes together
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because it's not just Hey, we'renomads and it's cute and it's nomadic mindset.
Na. Man, when you operate, things go multiple layers deep.
Yeah, I can't. I've beenlike that. I can't say where it
came from. Maybe I could,Maybe I could. Being born with a
visual impairment, you know, beingbullied, being ridiculed, being a person
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with a with a good heart,but kind of seeing like if you show
up a certain way, will excuseme, not even show up if you
look a certain way, you knowwhat I'm saying, if you look look
different from other people. The thetrauma that that brings up. So I
learned to camouflage. I learned toblend in, and with that I learned
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that like everybody wears man. Ilearned as a very very young age and
with a help of my father,who wasn't really around in a typical father
type of role because he had hisown drama to deal with um. But
he never sugarcoated anything, like evenat a young a he never you never
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sugarcoated anything. Some people might like, look at some of the conversations or
some of the things he did,be like, yo, you're not a
good father, but look yo,I'm here. So he did something right,
but it was I had an awesomesupport system, and the trauma helped
me survive, you know, becauseI didn't want to be made fun of.
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So I learned how to blend in. And learning how to blend in,
I noticed that, you know whatI'm saying, people would act certain
ways, so I wouldn't which overyears of practicing, watching, observing or
whatever, I didn't, I wouldn'thave to ask you a question because your
(24:44):
actions are gonna tell me, likehow you're going to move Like I don't
because I feel if I ask youa question you're going to tell me what
you want me to know. You'regoing to tell me what you think I
want to hear. But if Isit and just watch you, that tells
me everything I need to know.So within like five to fifteen minutes or
(25:06):
just listening to somebody, I prettymuch have a good read on them.
I read a lot, I listenedto a lot of music, and I
just watched observing. Like in inI always looked for the lesson in everything
you know. So yes, likeoh oh it's cute. No matter mindset,
they're they're they're on the road.Nah. Nah, I mean no
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matter what you do. My mindsetis mandatory, which is another thing,
you know what I'm saying eclectically conscious, Like I said, like truth is
relative. I see reality different fromsomebody else. My map of the world
is different from somebody else because ofmy upbringings, my traumas, where I've
been, what I've experienced, allthat that comes into plays a part in
(25:55):
my belief system. Right. Butif the bigger pictures are overall pictures is
wanting to be a better Jay andraise the consciousness of the world. I
have to be open to how doesJenny move, you know, what I'm
saying, How does Schurl move,how does Victor move? How does she
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kindre move? And what can Iunderstand from how they see, how they
lived, how they experienced life,and how can I take the parts I
vibe with and become a better me? Because if you're able to listen,
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understand, hold these conversations without anybias, any judgment, or whatever,
you become more self aware, whichraises your consciousness, which ultimately raises the
collective consciousness. So poltically conscious comesfrom like, Okay, my belief system
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is this way because I grew upblack in a in a in a single
parent home, single single parent househome, how household, you know what
I'm saying. Not with a lotof money. So there's stuff there,
right, But is that reality?Like what beliefs came from that? And
what beliefs are true? You know? And exposing myself to other things outside
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of my bubble of comfort or ormy bubble of of reality, you know
what I'm saying. And so,and that's where the elec eclectically conscious come
from. It's just pulling from everywhere, not just one thing. Yeah,
you know one thing that is feelingreally clear to me, right, now,
(27:44):
and this is something that's been bubblingup recently, and I feel like
there's a couple layers to it,and there's of course nuanced like anything else.
Like you said that your perception yourmap of the world. You know,
this is kind of what you knowbased on your life, your experiences,
etc. Right, And everybody hasa map of the world. Everybody
has a perception, everybody has theirtruths, their beliefs, their experiences.
(28:07):
Right. And one thing that isjust really feeling super clear to me right
now is when we're on this journeyand we're growing, and you you want
to work with somebody, right,like what Jay's talking about. With the
nomadic mindset and eclectically conscious, you'reessentially like drawn to someone not only from
(28:30):
an energetic level, but you arewanting to learn, borrow, get this
like mind map concept, right,Like you like their map of the world.
It's expansive, it's going to helpyou grow, it's gonna help you
shift. And so that's what Ifeel like, not only you, but
like the idea of nomadic mindset andeclectically conscious is like, hey, these
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are mind maps that you can stepinto to help you align more to your
true essence of who you are,because when you adapt a nomadic mindset,
and this is how you, youknow, decide to operate from, it's
going to by nature expand you.And I think about all the people that
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I'm learning from, you know,I'm coming to learn like I don't want
to be like them, but thereare certain mind maps that they have that
I'm really drawn to because they thinkabout things very differently than me, and
so there's an expansiveness to that,right. And so it's really interesting because
I had a vision of you herein the last few minutes. I had
(29:36):
a vision of you sharing this messagewide and far and just seeing you sitting
in all these different like it alljust flashed through so quickly where it's like
I'm saying, I see you sittinglike in a radio podcast type of studio
with people just having this conversation talkingabout the power of a nomadic mindset and
(30:00):
the power of eclectically conscious and howthis all comes together. Like I'm seeing
visions of you doing this and allthese different scenarios sitting on a stage kind
of like an Oprah type of stage. You're sitting there and you're just sharing
what's on your mind and what's onyour heart? Like, I'm just seeing
all these visions come in really quickly. Because this is bigger than the Life
(30:21):
Adventist podcast. This is bigger thanthe Holistic Life podcast. This is bigger
than Jenny and Jay. This isbigger than Jay Tapping into the energy.
Okay, you may not put wordson it like this, but I feel
like what you've brought together, it'slike you're creating like an energy grid or
like an energy I don't even knowwhat to call it, but it's like
you're creating this energetic consciousness or something. I don't even know what to call
(30:45):
it, but you're like, andyou're inviting people into this because when we're
like, do you I don't evenknow, it's like, do you feel
like when we're all in this togetherand we're all adapting and stepping into the
nomadic mindset and we're being all toclearly conscious and we could probably unpack that
one a little bit more, islike the more of us that are adapting
us the I don't like this thesewords, but it's like the higher we
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rise, right, like, themore we all grow together because we're all
energetically tapping into this concept living itbreathing it, expanding it, and then
as you know, as a asa unit, we're all growing impacting together.
Now that's interesting because I mean,you said it, and it's this
is just my personality. I don'tknow if someone would call it a limiting
(31:32):
belief or whatever, but like mything is like if it's this or version
of this I'm saying, I reallyI really don't care if it's the the
concept and that's what you're talking about, stepping into the concept not next not
necessarily a eclectically conscious concept or anomadic mindset concept, but the concept of
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being just conscious. When I sayconscious, I don't mean woke, Like
we're not even go in there.But you know what I'm saying it you're
you're raising up to a different frequency. I feel, yes, like collectively,
collectively, we would be a betterpeople. Not black, white,
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man, woman, whatever, youknow what I'm saying, Christian, Muslim,
whatever, No, we would bea better people. Like and I
hear stuff like that. I seelike those maps of the United States you'd
see in school with all the boundaries, you know what I'm saying, But
like if you look at that likereal life, like looking at the world
(32:40):
from space. You don't see anyfucking boundary. You don't say, like,
yo, that's Texas, you know. I mean, you know the
general area of Texas, But Texasfrom the sky doesn't look like the fucking
picture they give you to study ina classroom. Right. So when I
hear labels like a religious label oran ethnic label, I'm like, Yo,
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that's just something that divides us becausewe're people. So what we can
grasp the betterment of the people.You know what I'm saying. I don't
care if you're black, White,you know, Indian, Chinese, Hispanic.
I see you, that's my brotheror that's my sister, and I
feel, yes, yes, ifyou can tap into that frequency no matter
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what it's called, or more leadersthought leaders start to step up and teach
that, then yes, that wouldraise the consciousness of the people. I'm
(33:44):
sitting here in a short amount ofsilence because I feel like what I want
to say is but it's not eventhis, because I feel like I want
to be like, Okay, agreeto disagree, but it's not that we
disagree. It's just more in thein the verbiage, in the way that
it's being explained or categorized or labeledright, okay, because I that's why
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I was like a little bit ofloss from words. I mean, yeah,
so let's let's dig in before weyou know, as like before we
like wrap up, Let's dig ina little bit deeper into eclectically conscious.
You touched on it a bit earlier. What does that mean to be eclectically
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conscious? And I can't I haveto say this because this song lyric keeps
playing in my mind. Is theit's a vibe. It's a frequency that
keeps playing in my mind because Ifeel like like what you're talking about is
it's a vibe, It's a frequency. It's tapping into this vibe in this
frequency. I mean in a sense. Yeah. But being eclectically conscious is
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basically tearing down the the wall ofbelief you've built up from learn beliefs or
whatever, and asking yourself like howmany times says we stopped and ask ourselves,
am I going to church because Ireally believe in God? Or is
this something I've just learned because myfamily has done it? Like, what
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are what are my belief system?My belief system? What are my belief
systems? You know? And it'sit's being able to sit with someone who
has a whole different belief set thanyou have, and not arguing who's right
or wrong or but once like,I'm here because I want to understand you,
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because we're probably more like than weare different. And just because this
is my religious faith and you havea religious faith that that isn't like mine,
we can't even fuck with each otherbecause your faith is wrong and mine
is right. Just like yo,Like okay, tell me about the Hebrew
stuff, Tell me about Buddha,tell me about Allah. You know what
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I'm saying, Tell me about Godso I can sit and see where the
common denominators are. Like I couldbe like, yo, that's crazy and
a Bible. There's a book ofjob that just described what you described in
your faith or in my faith.We do this right, Like for me
religion, I see religion as asI equated to martial arts. Right,
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there's a lot of different religions,as a lot of different martial arts.
Just because you do taekwondo doesn't meanthat judo is wrong, you know what
I'm saying. Just because someone hasa masters as a mastery and keto doesn't
mean that tai chi is wrong.They're all from the same basis. But
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someone chose to study a particular art, even that it's a particular art that
they chose to study that aligned withwho they are and where they want to
go because they feel that particular artwill help them progress, grow and evolve.
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Same thing with religious religious faith frommy point of view, So eclectically
conscious is about being open to otherpeoples, and it's only specific to faith
and religion. No, No,it's that That was just an example.
Okay, it's related to everything.Okay, I'm glad we cleared that up.
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Because I was using religion as anexample to paint a picture, because
if you think about it, newspaints like here in America, Oh,
we're mainly Christian, right, Oh, these Muslims. Think about that.
These Muslims, they point out aspecific religious group, not even a religious
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group, a group of individuals whopractice a certain religious faith. Right,
And so mentally psychologically you say,oh, Muslims are bad, right in
your watching this group of individuals whodid something wrong to this religious faith.
So I was just using religious religionas an example. Okay, Okay,
I want to get or maybe Imissed it because that's sometimes common with me.
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And you like your a couple stepsahead of me and it takes me
a minute to catch up. Somaybe the listeners already got it, but
I'm I'm like the essence of eclecticallyconscious like tearing down your belief system.
That's that's that's the core of it, tearing down your belief system, well,
tearing down the belief system you thoughtwas yours and really finding out what
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you believe. Okay, well,I guess I'm thinking because this is literally
just in the moment here, becauseyou're working on some apparel and I was
like, just with the words ofeclectically conscious, I was excited to wear
that gear, like, yeah,colectically conscious, and I guess I thought
it had like another aspect to it. Maybe that's something to expelor because I
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love the tearing down the walls ofbelief that you're saying, because I just
made a post on social media todaywhere I talked about that, like I'm
continuously like unearthing things that weren't evermind to begin with, but I held
on to them as if they weremine. So eclectically conscious, like I've
for you five years ago, whensomeone may have brought up the Acashic records,
(39:27):
you might have been like, Imean, I don't know, you're
talking about channeling something, right,Like, isn't that wrong? Maybe not
five years ago, maybe further right, but it's like that's kind of weird,
right, instead of being like likeI feel now you stepping into that
or or experiencing and that all startedwith you reading a book and being more
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open to, hey, what isthis? That is an example of being
eclectically conscious because this has opened upmore doors for you and it's it's and
it's learning from your keynote people yearsago, right, And still like now
you're stepping into this, this mentalityof being eclectically conscious because before this is
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how you showed up. If youdidn't create your own stuff, you weren't
worth shit, right, And thisis the way we do things. This
is the way it's supposed to bedone if you want to be successful,
Like this is the status symbol forsuccess. Right. And I feel for
a moment you were you were youwere running down that path and then like
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there was a transition, the roadwas blocked to some shit. You had
to turn around and find another way, right, And it's like huhh,
well, this person is saying somethingelse, right, this goes completely against
what this person was saying about speakingin and the blueprint for success, right,
but this person is always are alsosuccessful doing it their way. It
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clectically consciousness, like challenging that beliefsystem that you thought was the belief system
and saying is it the belief system? And if it is, that's cool,
But until you kind of like,okay, let me let me step
out the comfort zone, right,let me let me dabble a little bit,
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let me ask questions, let mebecome a little more self aware,
let me see who else is doingthis? Is this person just a fluke?
How does this like? Joe Anne, Joe told you, how does
it feel? Not what is itsupposed to be? But how does it
feel? I've been doing this foreverand it just felt wrong? What else
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is out there not saying all thisis wrong? Because there's some stuff you
learned in NSAY that still helps youtoday. But you've also learned some other
stuff from Amanda, Emily vio letted, Joanne, you know what I'm saying
your other guests on your podcast,and it's just like raising your consciousness.
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Awesome. I'm taking notes and I'mtaking it all in of what you're saying,
because you say so many really goodthings and I want to be able
to reflect that back to you.And the good thing is that you have
this podcast to listen to once itgoes live to be able to reflect and
use all this. So as wewrap up, you're really good at this.
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You've been people you know, someone'sbeen listening this whole time. They
probably have so many things, likeso many inspirations, so many different like
exciting moments, payings, revelations,etc. Like what would be basically I'm
asking for you to kind of someit all up, like what would be
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like the one action step or theone thing you want them to remember from
all this or you invite them toremember. Mindset is mandatory, not necessarily
a nomadic mindset, but whatever youwant to do, whatever you're aiming to
do, you have to have acertain mindset for it. And it's knowing
that having that mandatory mindset for itinsert whatever will probably lead you on a
(43:29):
k and O nomadic journey of meaningdifferent people, having different experiences, learning
different things, challenging your own selfbeliefs, which will bring you to be
eclectically conscious and hopefully will make youwant to help somebody else do the same
thing. That's beautiful. You triggeredanother question to me when you said that
(43:52):
with it being about mindset is mandatory, which leads to the nomadic mindset,
right, Like everything and you weretalking about feel like a lot about what
I've been learning lately and talking aboutis really dropping into your heart and making
decisions from your heart and from acentered place and from your soul. So
(44:14):
how does that tie in to themindset piece, Because you know, you
can have the overthinking aspect of thingsand you're like mindset, Like, just
talk about how that ties in.Like I said, like, however you
choose to attach to a situation,however you choose to label it good about
or whatever, even if that,like your mindset is mandatory. You know,
(44:37):
if you feel if you feel likesuccess has to come with you putting
everything else on the back burner untilyou get there, that's a certain mindset
somewhere. It's like, what mindsetare you choosing? Yeah, somewhere,
somebody somewhere told you that you haveto have a mandatory mindset to bust your
(44:57):
ass until you're successful. Right,So, same type of it's a choice,
But what are you choosing right,like you know, the whole control
piece, Like you can control howyou react to something. You may not
be able to control the things thatare happening, but you control you can
control how you respond, right,So the whole tappenings here, your your
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your heart is knowing that you're listeningto your intuition, knowing that it might
not look like once again, youknow what I'm saying, you thought it
should should look, challenging those beliefs, tearing down those walls, but understanding
like if you if you're choosing tofollow your heart, it's got to be
(45:43):
a certain mindset there. Yeah,yeah, because it's it's almost as if
that is the foundation that helps youto continue to move forward. That's why
mindset is mandatory, because mindset isthe foundation. You could build a solid
foundation and you could build a shakyfoundation. A choice is yours, but
(46:04):
whatever you choose, the mindset ismandatory. It's like the distinction between the
mindset which is very different than usingyour mind and being in your mind and
overthinking, which is still a mindset, but they are different. There's like
a there's a slight distinction there.I love it as always. Thank you
for sharing your wisdom. I'm gladthat you guys got to meet Jay through
(46:30):
the podcast. If you don't already, you know, follow me or follow
us outside of this podcast. Yougot to meet Jay and hear a bit
about his wisdom and what he's offeringout into the world. Do you have
anything that you feel like wasn't saidthat you would want to share right now?
Nah? Follow me on social what'sthe best place? Where would you
(46:52):
want to be followed? On YouTube? Oh? Yeah, that's that's the
best place if you want to seeif you want to hear if yeah,
YouTube is is the best because everythingelse is branching out from YouTube and your
YouTube is the same as the titleof this episode, Nomadic Mindset. Yeah,
yeah, I love it. Yeah. Well, thank you for joining
(47:13):
me, Thanks for being here.Stay tuned next week, We've got another
episode coming for you. This isgoing to be really powerful and impactful.
Reach out on social media. Letme know how you liked today's episode and
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