September 14, 2023 • 45 mins
Join Jeni as she embarks on a journey of self-awareness, delving into her own patterns and personal growth while seeking wisdom from the record keepers. In this episode, she's joined by her husband, Jai, who provides a unique perspective on spirituality. Together, they discuss the complexities of reality and the importance of avoiding rigidity in one's path. They advocate for staying present, releasing judgments, and trusting one's instincts. Throughout the conversation, they tackle the challenges of self-doubt and emphasize the importance of self-trust, belief, and faith.
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That life and fun listening at DANSpodcast Radio. Welcome to another episode of
the Life Adventteress podcast. I'm JennyHolly, your host, and this is
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the podcast and the place to beif you are into spirituality, growing more,
traveling, loving life, and especiallytalking about the real roll stuff and
different edges of spirituality. So today'stopic is one that is super present in
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my life right now, and it'sbeen interesting because I've been on a journey
as you guys, if you've beenfollowing along with the episodes, I've been
on this journey where I've been reallydigging more and more into self awareness and
noticing patterns and behaviors and noticing theplaces where I've been stuck, and also
tying that into what the record keepershave been teaching me and through me,
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whether it be the messages that comethrough for readings or even in the group
program Seven Weeks of Magic, Privateprogram, Seven Weeks of Magic. Like,
there's a lot of messages that arefollowing a very similar trend, is
similar thread, and where everything rightin this moment is leading to for me
in my life is noticing I guess, I guess the best way I could
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put is noticing cycles where you knowyou're on cloud nine, you're believing,
you're trusting, and then you kindof hit this little dip and you hit
a dip where you're like, Okay, well I feel lost or I'm not
sure my purpose or why am Idoing this entrepreneurial thing, or someone show
me a sign. And I'm notsaying I have all of those feelings as
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deep as I've had them in thepast right now, but I've just noticed
that I'm in this cycle. AndJay and I, my husband, were
talking this morning about you know thosemoments where you want to give up,
or those moments, especially as anentrepreneur, where you're just kind of like,
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give me some kind of a sign, let me know him on the
right path, or you know,you're looking for some kind of external thing
to show that like, I don'tknow, it'd give you a little confidence
boost, I guess so as wewere so basically, I invited Jay on
the podcast on this episode to havethis conversation because I wanted to have another
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depth, another dynamic, another perspectivehere, and let me say it this
way. I wanted to give depthto a conversation and give a different perspective
versus it just being my voice andmy experience. Jay if if you haven't
heard him on a previous episode,he was on when he talked about nomadic
mindset. Him and I have apodcast together they called The Holistic Life,
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and we do talk about a lotof things, but they're not as like
forwardly spiritual and like on the edgesof spirituality like this one is. So
Jay is if you don't know him, Jay is really deep. He is
also very spiritual. He just isn'tlike branding himself out there as like a
spiritual coach or anything. But he'sgot a lot of perspective, a lot
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of life experience, and I lovewhat he brings into this conversation. We
had this conversation as in like twosentences or something so far, and I
was like, can we please recordthis? So this conversation is really raw,
just happening in the moment. SoJay, welcome, Welcome back to
the Life Adventures podcasts. Glad tobe here. Well, it's funny because
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it kind of feels funny being like, welcome back to the Life Adventures podcast
because it kind of feels like you'repart of my podcast all the time,
but your voice isn't here. Becauseof all the conversations we have and you
help me to go even deeper inmy journey and exploration. So before we
start, would you just share abit about yourself, Like, share a
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bit about like I gave a bitof an intro, but to share a
bit about yourself. Where do youfeel like you're at spiritually? What have
you spent your time doing? Likewhat has given you like depth and perspective.
I think one of the biggest thingsthat's giving me depth and perception is
that the awareness, the understanding thatI've learned a lot. I've learned a
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lot in Sellectually, I've learned alot. Logically, I've learned a lot
of spiritually, and even with learninga lot, I still know and understand.
I don't know everything, if thatmakes sense. For the amount of
information that I know, you know, there's still so much more out there,
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and I want to be open.I want to be open to different
thoughts of belief, different ideas,different you know, paths if you will,
because just because I've learned one waydoesn't make that the right way or
the way. So it's just knowingand understanding, Like, yes, I'm
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living in my reality, but thereare so many other different realities, and
I can't get stuck in, youknow, the path that I'm on,
because there's there there isn't just onepath. You know. The path may
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go straight, you know, itmay verge off to a different path,
might go left, you might goright, and understanding that you know,
yes, in the moment, Imight be seeing something from my particular path,
but to take a bird's eye viewor take an aerial snapshot of everything
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and being like, yo, okay, yeah, I'm on this path,
but Jenny's over here to the leftor Sharon's over there to the right,
and it's not one one way,And I feel like getting out of that,
that labeling of good and bad andjust being in the moment and knowing
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and recognizing like, Okay, ifI'm seeing something that's good or bad,
why am I labeling it that way? What makes it good? What makes
it bad? And understanding if Iwas a different person and viewing from a
different point of view, it mightnot be the good or bad I'm defining,
guys, and just understand there's there'sso many different paths. Yeah,
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you know, it's interesting because whatis sparking this conversation was you you came
into the room. We were chatting, you know, like morning chat,
husband, wife, like, oh, what are you doing today, sweetie?
How's your day? Whatever? Itwent that corning, but essentially,
like I was asking because Jay's beendoing YouTube shorts every day, talking about
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different things and really just giving likelittle drops of inspiration and wisdom nuggets and
things like that, and I wasasking what he was going to do a
short on today and do you wantto share? Like it doesn't have to
be a big long story, buta bit about like what the essence or
do you want me to share?So he had shared, you know,
he's been doing shorts every day,and as you guys know, social media,
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no matter what platform it is,sometimes it's spiking and sometimes it's not
right. And showing up and puttingyour time and effort into something over and
over and over and not quote unquoteseeing the results or whatever. You know,
you hit these moments where you're like, God, I don't know should
I should I quit? And notsaying Jay was in the play us to
quit, but that's what he wantedto talk about. And it's interesting that
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we're both experiencing and noticing these feelings. And I earlier this week. I
think on Monday, you know,it was like I was real annoyed because
I was seeing the cycle of havinglike feeling on purpose and having intentional focus
and having you know, those outerspikes of validation and you know who people
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are enrolling in the program. Woohoo, people are coming to readings, woo
hoo. People are sending me messages. Yeay, this is fun. And
I mean I also have a wholecareer in sales where like I got those
like spikes of dopamine pretty regularly withpeople quote unquote needing me to respond and
put out fires. And then youknow, I've noticed this cycle where I
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have these spikes, I'm in purpose, and then I kind of dipped down
into this other part of it whereit's like, Okay, what am I
doing now? Now what? Andthe thing that's so interesting is like I
really know at my core and believein my core what I'm doing in my
purpose and like going out there andsharing about the records and helping change lives.
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I mean, there's such a deeppurpose there for me, in such
deep why. And at the sametime, I'm still having moments where I'm
experiencing this like lower part, thisdip in the cycle of like I don't
know, Like I'm mad at myself, I'm disappointed myself, I feel lost.
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I want to get into action.I'm looking for ways to find the
strategy. So it's like getting intolike how do I make this work?
What do I do? What ismy next step? Getting into that type
of energy that comes from a placeof scarcity, that comes from that place.
Right. I don't know if that'sthe same thing for you, But
there's like this level of awareness ofthis energy that comes up that I feel
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like is inviting a lot of usto lean more into the trust and the
and the belief and the trust andself and the faith, like inviting us
to lean more into those things whenthey come up. It's a couple of
things, a couple of things.We've been conditioned, programmed and wired for
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that external that external validation. Youknow, if you think about it,
ever since you were a child,you start to walk, Oh good job,
good job, good job. Youknow what I'm saying. You're in
school, you know, you geta grade, you get an a B.
You know, oh, oh mygod, you did great. You
get a cd EF. Oh youneed to work better. Right, So
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these things are have been programmed froma certain age, and they still take
home tape shape take shape in differentways. So, yes, people signing
up for your program using this instance, since we're talking about it your program,
are signing up for a reading.Yeah, that's like the teacher giving
you an A or B. Youknow what I'm saying, Like, Yo,
yes, I made a good greatAnd you know, if y'all't know
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about Jenny in school, man,we're not gonna go there. We're definitely
not. Yeah, we're not goingthat's gonna open a whole. But I
say that jokingly. But even lookat that. Look at how you were
tied to getting such a good gradein school and when you got something lower
than that. You know what I'msaying, You kind of went into that
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quote unquote Valley that we're talking about, right, Oh, what can I
do? I gotta get the goodgrade. I want to a plus plus?
Like, oh, I should domore, I should study whatever your
thing was, study more extra Ieven went to it. I even went
to a teacher in college because hewas looking to be my only be and
I was like, certain the extracredit I could do to get me.
He was like hell no, Butbut think about how that has flowed over
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to other aspects of our life.Yep, you know what I'm saying.
So and with teachers, you havea CD and that's what they say,
Oh, you can do extra credit, or you need to study harder,
or you need to like this hasbeen programming wired. So even in our
adult lives, we still have thatthat that connection or that the conditions attached
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to our outcome right, instead ofjust being in the in the moment and
understanding, especially being entrepreneurs, it'snot that what you're doing is good or
bad. It's not that you needto do more of It might just be
like, what do you need tolearn in this moment? Or you know,
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hey, I know universe talking,the potential you have, I know
where you want to go. Butthe person you are right now isn't ready
for that. So we're going tohave you go through some more reps.
We're going to have you do somemore things because the place that you're trying
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to sit in you're not prepared tosit in yet. You need to be
another person to sit in where you'regoing right, You're on the right track.
We're not saying you're not, butyou're not there yet. But being
the logical creatures that we are,we don't see that because we don't see
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the conditions we've attached to. Oh, my business is doing great, right,
and we quit. We quit threefeet from gold and we quit.
We stop digging because it doesn't lookaway we think it should look And this
is and I'm and I'm not talkingfrom a place like oh, I'm there,
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I've arrived. I'm telling you likeI'm telling you this because this is
the conversation I had with myself yesterday. You know what I'm saying. The
information I'm giving you today is theinformation I would have gave given myself yesterday.
So it's like, you have tohave this awareness, you have to
have knowing and understanding that it's usuallyus getting in our way. And if
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you think you're going to take thisjourney by yourself and get to where you
need to go, like no,because you have these moments where yeah,
you're on top of the mount butthink think about this. You love the
mountains. You kind of gotta goup to get to the summit. You
kind of gotta go back down.Right, there's peaks and valleys. So
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my personal opinion, you can agreeto disagree but you're not always going to
be on the summit. My personalphilosophy is you experienced the summit to know
and understand what the view is likewhen you're down in the valley. M
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that what you just said, itfeels like it ties in to what I've
been experiencing, because I have beenexperiencing this from a whole different perspective from
the past. Is in the valley. In the past, I would have
the valley means something about me,about me, my identity. I would
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feel embarrassed, what's wrong with me? Why do? I would look for
something to fix it? And it'sfrom that energy that I would have signed
up for someone's free class or reallylooked for somebody to like show me the
way, or looking to fix thefeelings that I had and what especially with
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like everything, This has come upin readings, This has come up in
seven weeks of magic group program,private stuff. This has come up across
the board where it's this process of, like you said, from the valley,
because you were at the peak andbecause you're willing to observe and come
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into a place of aware of thesefeelings of this valley, It's almost like
you are absorbing it from the peak, and you're holding space without having any
of those things mean anything about youand your identity. It's like you're holding
space for those feelings. And Ifeel like you're holding space for those feelings
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and allowing them to release or alkomizingthem or transmuting them or whatever it is
that was meant to be instead offorcing the feelings to be something else.
Because I feel like that keeps basedon my experience, that keeps me in
the valley longer than just recognizing like, huh, this is cute. This
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has been my new thing when I'mexplaining things like this is cute. Wow,
that's cute. I'm in the valley, how cute of me to be
in the valley and notice I thinkit's the first time that I have noticed,
like, holy crap, this ispart of the cycle that I've been
in, and this is where Itypically do ABC X y Z. So
therefore, I'm going to choose tobe very careful and intentional about what decisions
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I'm making from this energy right becauseI feel like it's in that space and
we're talking about entrepreneur like life,but this could be you are, you
know, wanting to go after anew job or you are working your intuition
or whatever it is. Yeah,Like so it's like in these moments,
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you're like aware, like, wow, this is what I typically do in
these moments. So I'm not goingto I'm going to choose not to make
those same actions because I know forme in the past, what would get
anchored in was even more doubt,even more self doubt, lack of confidence,
wondering if I'm good enough, andthen I would have to like coming
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back up to the mountaintop was thatmuch harder and that much more grueling.
When really coming up to the mountaintop, I feel like it's just a perspective,
Right, you still have to climbup the mountain. But what if
the climb up the mountain, Okay, hiking peeps, Like, what if
the climb up the mountain is liketwo miles pretty standard incline? Yeah,
a little hard, a little tough. Maybe there's a couple of boulder climbs
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or something versus like a twelve milegrueler that has a massive amount of incline
in a short period of time.I feel like that's what I've been coming
out of, and to some degree, at some some conscious level, enjoying
it because I'm like, look atme, I did the twelve miler right.
And it's interesting because while we weresitting and talking about this or the
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earlier this week, what dropped inwas this saying or I don't know this
saying this nugget from the universe isit's from the place of doubt. We
seek answers often outside of us.Yeah, I mean everything you totally relate
to that. Everything we have,everything we need, like if you believe
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it or not, like is alreadyin us. You just have to come
into a place of self awareness andthis is this is probably what you've been
working on with your group program,like people leaning into that intuition. Yeah,
because a lot of times, especiallywhen even when something is going wrong,
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right, most people were like,oh tell me what to do.
Why Because you're looking for a validationfor feeling you already feel, or you're
looking to confirm something you already feel, and you just want someone to be
like, Okay, you're right.But like if you really sit and ask
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yourself, you know what I'm saying, It's like, Yo, this I
probably shouldn't do this, Jenny,should I do this? No, you
probably shouldn't do this, Okay,cool, Right, I shouldn't do Right,
Instead of being like I got thisfeeling that I shouldn't do it,
I'm running with that. Yeah.You know, it's an interesting because I
feel like, yeah, yes,yes, Because in Akashic record readings,
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this happens all the time. Peopleask a question, the record keepers share
whatever answer, and then people go, yeah, that's what I thought,
because it's really confirming something they alreadyknew but hadn't come into that full awareness
like you're saying, I wouldn't evencall a full awareness because they are aware
full acceptance. There you go.I like that better, full acceptance.
I like that better. Asn't saythe other part of this this saying here
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right, it's from the place ofdoubt we seek answers off and outside of
us. The other thing I feelwhen I put this in the group in
a post was I think it's okayif we seek guidance outside of us,
But it's more about the energy andintention behind it, because if it's coming
from a place of curiosity and playfulness, right, there's yes, the answers
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are all inside of us, andat the same time, if we are
seeking answers outside of us, comingfrom a place of curiosity and playfulness instead
of like, oh my god,what's wrong with me? I need to
fix this to a whole different energy. I definitely, I totally agree,
because yes, everything we have isin us, but there's going to be
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points in time where you're going toneed that guidance. Right. But even
with that, a guide, rightguide is going to guide you. They're
not necessarily going to say like Yo, this is the right or wrong or
right path. They're just there toguide. There's to facilitate the journey.
At the end of the day,you still get to choose, but not
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but yes, And it's kind ofwhat you said, like what is the
intention of the god? Are youlooking for the guide to give you the
answers that you're looking for? Areyou looking to are you looking to the
guide for like you said, Hey, I'm curious, I'm I'm being playful,
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like I'm not looking for this tobe the end all be all,
Like one of that one of thethings when people ask me questions, it's
like, hey, answer a questionright, And I give them an answer
and they're like, Yo, youdidn't answer my question. It's like,
no, I did answer your question. I didn't give you the answer you
wanted to your question. Yeah.Yeah, I think that is fairly common
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in acoustic record readings too. Inthe moment, that's sometimes what people are
feeling with whatever answer is coming through. It's not until they sat with it
or listen back to it they're like, oh, okay, I see,
I see how that was. Okay, you know. And I think that
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in a conversation with you where someone'sasking a question, it's not like every
single conversation you're having is being recordedfor them too, then, right,
Like a lot of times it's fleeting. We just want like quick answers.
Now, is there anything else youwant to say on this part of our
conversation because I'm feeling guided to showa message that came through. Hey you're
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driving, okay, Well, Ijust want to make sure I want to
give you space if there's anything elseyou wanted to add. So I was
asking the record keepers really about thistopic in many many ways, and one
of the messages that came through I'mabout to share it's called relaxing into trust.
Relaxing into trust and deepening your levelof trust goes far beyond the thinking,
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believing, and seeing strategy that manyuse and also get stuck in and
around you. See, you willthink, parentheses, receive, believe,
and see absolutely and what we aresaying and inviting you to consider that this
process isn't about the strategy for howyou will arrive there. Yes, part
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of your process may include a strategythat allows your mind to get out of
the way so that you can beginand continue to listen to the sound of
your soul. Expanding, deepening,relaxing into trust are all cute words and
all things that you are already doingand not giving yourself enough credit for.
At times, there is still adesire for outer confirmation that you are receiving
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from your soul, higher self,Guide's Spirit, God, Universe is in
fact, quote true and quote theright message. Part of deepening your trust
is continuing to release control of themind desiring a certain outcome and to continue
to or begin to bet on yourselfby going all in and believing what you
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receive as guidance from your intuition.What if you were to align to the
possibility that the steps and inspiration andguidance that came in from your intuition,
higher self, Guide's soul, Godand the steps or actions you are taking
as a result is in alignment withyour highest path. See holding onto the
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fear of losing or not achieving acertain outcome can keep you closed off from
all the possibilities that are present toyou in any given moment. Deepening the
connection with yourself and trusting your intuitiveguidance is rooted in the embodiment of the
truth or your soul. Continue topractice and chip away at believing and trusting
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more and more with each and everyday that passes this message. For me,
me receiving this message and that's thefirst time I've read it since it
came through, is me receiving thismessage, I feel a place of calmness,
Like I feel calm hearing that,and in a way, that is
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the confirmation that I'm quote on theright path just hearing that message. And
so it's interesting because this is justnow like a little mini realization that I'm
saying out loud. Is I feellike a lot of what the record keeper
share, not just in readings,like in these messages that I share,
whether it be here on the podcastor my YouTube channel or in my programs,
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a lot of them helped to giveus confirmation or the clarity of the
reflection back like, huh, okay, it really is that simple? Really
is that simple? A lot oftimes we as people over complicate a lot
of things. Yeah, over complicateworking, over complicates, over complicates starting
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a business, overcomplicate relationships. Yes, yes, it's truly that simple,
or it can be that simple.But we go into overthinking because once again,
be conditions we've placed on these certainoutcomes. I'm not successful unless it
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looks a certain way. Yep,you know what I'm saying. I won't
be happy the relationship until it looksa certain way, right. And it's
like and then we go out tofind these coaches, we buy these strategies,
these blueprints because these blueprints marketing geniuseswill tell you you do my program
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and it will look a certain way, and you're like, yo, that's
what I'm looking for, yeah,instead of just applying like what you've already
learned and practicing that. Right.One of the shorts I've I did was
talking about the great swordsman, Likeyou could give a great swordsman a dull
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sword and they'll still be able tocut something with the dull sword because they
know it's not the tool that they'reusing, but the technique they've mastered.
A lot of us want the tools. We want the shiny tools. Oh
give me, give me the theblack and decker drill, because you know
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the black and decker drill has fivespeeds, right, instead of mastering the
technique needed to master the drill,because if you master technique, it doesn't
matter what tool you put in yourhand, because you have the technique.
And a lot of the techniques isworking on listening to your intuition, working
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on putting one foot in front ofthe other, working on when you're triggered,
not saying you made me mad orI'm sad or why do I feel
triggered? Why is this emotion?And I'm not just talking about the lower
frequency emotions sadness, anger, youknowed out all that stuff, the higher
ones too, Why am I feelingso happy? Because that gives you a
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deeper awareness of the saying, Okay, I realize and understand when this happens,
the result is usually this. Soif I know that this is going
to happen, I can be proactiveinstead of reactive and so life business whatever.
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You know what I'm saying, Whenthose things happen it's not like,
oh my god, it's like,Okay, I see you, and you
would just and I feel a strongpart of that too, is being around
a supportive group of people that willkeep that at the front of your mind,
right because if you're trying to runa business by yourself and doubt creeps
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in, as doubt usually does,like everything that we're telling you, everything
that Jenny tells you, If youfollow my stuff, everything that I tell
you, it's not like, yes, I've mastered that. No, Doubt's
gonna come at you a different way. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna show
up differently and like a strong thing. It's like, especially in your industry,
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having a supportive group of people whoare gonna tell you like, yo,
you got this, or you knowwhat I'm saying, I've been there,
this is what I did, notsaying you have to do it my
way. But look at it fromthis angle, because when we're in it,
we we we're usually we have blinderson, so we can only see
the thing that's in front of us. But having that group of people,
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it could be a coach, itcould be a mentor, it could be
a good friend. Now, ifit is a good friend, please understand
because if like you were in thatperson or at the same space, that
might not be you know, theperson you need in your corner, you
know what I'm saying. But whenyou take the blinders off, opens up
a whole new world. Yeah,I love I love that you brought up
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to you know, having a communityor a coach or a mentor guide when
like you need help believing in yourself. You need that anchor some it's a
community or resource whatever to really helpyou anchor that in Because I just heard
this on a podcast yesterday, andI love the way it is presented,
especially when it comes to like thespiritual work and is sometimes you have to
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or you're gonna choose to Let's putit that way. You're gonna choose to
bet on yourself and lean into acoach, a guide, a mentor and
enroll in a program that scares theshit out of you and at the same
time may not make logical sense butfeels like the right move because that program,
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that space, that container, thatwhatever it is, with that coach,
whether it be group or private,right, they're going to help reflect
back to you how fucking awesome andamazing you are and the ways to navigate
that, and it's almost like itacts as a bridge to help you really
come to the other side of this, where then you can more easily do
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these things on your own, meaninghaving the awareness and just noticing, like,
you know what, I'm in avalley right now, you know,
like cool, And I feel likewhen we are detached from the meaning that
we usually make of these emotions orthese things that are passing through us,
the more detached we are from makinga story out of that, the quicker
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they moved through, And something justpopped up for me about the value.
Usually it's cooler in the valley.You know, we're like, oh shit,
I'm at this low point in mylife. Maybe it's just a point
for you to chill for a hotsecond, yeah, before you take on
the next mountain. Yeah, beforeyou take on the next Yeah. Because
if you're climbing and climbing and climbingand climbing, you might get burnt out.
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So maybe, like like you said, like how do you choose to
perceive that valley? It could justbe like, okay, yo, I've
been doing a lot. I hitthe summit. Oooh that was great.
It's cheerful a little bit m orstep I can reevaluate my next step because
I don't know the terms the mountainI just summited. That might have been
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a eight hundred foot mountain, right, and that took a lot out of
me. And this next mountain islike thirty two hundred feet. So what
happens when you try when you tryto climb it next mountain? You're not
prepared. So these moments where stuffisn't moving as quickly as we want them
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to, like step back and justlook like, Okay, what is the
next thing? What's the next mountain? Looking? Like? Am I even
prepared for that? And maybe thisis a time for me to like make
sure my my my base camp isin order and I have all the tools
and stuff that I need because Idon't want to be climbing mount what's that
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big one that everybody everest and nothave enough oxygen. Yeah, it's interesting
because some of the potentially challenging questionsthat come up as you're prepping, evaluating,
let me get moved through, especiallyif you're like, why is it
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not happening? I've done so manythings. I've tried so many things.
I've hired this, this and that, I've done this, this, and
that. Like you've done all thethings, maybe a different question will present
itself if you give it space too, of what am I avoiding? And
or what am I not letting goof? Right? And the answers behind
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those questions, if you will allowyourself to sit in them, maybe the
exact thing that helps unwind everything whichcomes into this whole process of noticing detaching
from these things meaning something for youridentity and allowing them just to be like,
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hey, cool, I do that. That's cute, right, Like
I don't need to figure out whyI'm doing it, as to like where
did this come from? And whatfamily trait was passed down? And what's
wrong with me? And how likefor me not saying this is for everybody,
but for me. I have foundthat what I'm being taught even more
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and even more is feeling the energyaround these thoughts in these processes. That's
what this awareness things taught me iswhen I'm trying to figure something out,
I'm noticing how much effort and energyis around that that then drains me quite
a bit. Or even when Iam I was just telling something the other
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day like I'd rather be fucking jumpingfrom cloud to cloud and Unicorn to Unicorn.
From a perspective standpoint, I mean, like we life is so great.
I'm hiring the angels. Look atall these beautiful things happening, Like
I'd rather be in that playful,joyful energy then spending my time and a
stressful trying to figure it out what'swrong with me. And it's interesting because
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you're like, we're not meant tobe on the mountaintops all the time.
And I felt like a little bitlike ooh to calling me out for like
having that feeling of wanting to flyfrom unicorn to unicorn. I think the
thing is is I am more thanever choosing not to bypass my emotions that
come so that I can be onthe unicorn. For me, it feels
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more as a perspective shift in theway that I'm interacting with these things so
quick, quick perspective. Even withthat, like there's nothing wrong for jumping
or writing Unicorn to unicorn, rightbut knowing Unicorne's gonna get tired, it's
gonna need you know what I'm saying. So so yes, it's cool to
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be like, oh, Unical,you're burning your unicorns out, Like damn,
can we break this. Oh,you're so right, but I don't
like it. No, you knowwhat I think, I think, I
think for me, just I guessthis is just like a little perspective.
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I get what you're saying, becausethere is a there is a toxic side
to writing the unicorn all the time. And at the same time, what
my like, what I feel likeI was speaking into maybe if not come
into a place where I can fullyarticulate. It is just really recognizing the
energies around things and how much somethingtrains me where previously I was unaware to
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that impact or that effect that spendingtime stressing about something, worrying about something,
trying to fix something. It's alittle flatting, like I'm tired,
break stop stop putting a needle inmy you know what? You know what
else I realized and what we'll wrapit up after this is like I realized
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a couple of things. One ofthe beliefs that I've held subconsciously that I
feel like unwinding is that as Iwatch so many different influencers, coaches,
teachers, whatever, people who admire, people who I follow or whatever,
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and then I also witness some ofthe attacks that come in the comments and
the cancel culture and all of that. And you guys have probably heard me
say things like this throughout the podcast, where it's like, Okay, I'm
talking about this, I can't possiblytalk about all the directions and all the
nuances and all the things, rightbecause I think that I've had this underlying
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belief or expectation for myself that Iwould be able to hold space for all,
I would be able to talk aboutall, I would not overlook any
thing. I would be able tohave the depth, and I should have
the depth as a leader, aninfluencer, whatever. And honestly, like
I'm even unraveling that to where rightnow my role, my purpose is to
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be a guide and to share andguides don't need to have it all like
look like a total side note abouthow about a guide that I ran into
on the top of a mountain literallyand these guides that I talked to,
I knew more about the area andI was visiting the area than the guides
knew about the area. They travelall over the world, they get a
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little booklet to give them the insand outs of kind of like what they
need to know. Yes, theyknow how to lead people up the mountain
and give them a great ex vacation. These guides who didn't know shit relatively
speaking. Obviously, they knew enoughto be a guide. I knew more
than them, and they were guidingbecause it's not about that. So anyways,
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I got sidetracked. I just wentto that mountain in my head.
So let me come back and seewhat I was. What I was bringing
this all to. Oh, theawareness of trying to be able to be
the one that explains all the perspectives, because when I listen to other teachers
who talk about the nuances or talkabout the depth of things and be like,
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one thing I don't like about,you know, the spiritual coaching world
is that it's blah blah blah blahblah. This way. It's it's about
writing unicorns and going from thing tothing. You know, there's there's this
aspect to it, right. Theyshare that kind of a thing, and
I agree with what they share.I'm like, yeah, you know,
there is more depth there. WhatI realized recently is that there are some
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people who were meant to be theunicorn writers and help people learn how to
ride their unicorns and to be bubblyand to be up. Doesn't mean,
they don't have depth in them,but that is their role because there are
people who need that as part oftheir process to need Like I'm just thinking,
Amanda Merit, she rides unicorns allday long. Not to say that
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in her in her programs and inher one on ones and in her other
things. She doesn't go into thedepths of things where she hasn't experienced,
because I'm sure she has, butlike that's not part of her like space
to hold her space to hold isto help you dream bigger, think bigger,
trust yourself, believe yourself. Ridethem fucking unicorns. Girl, We're
having a bad bitch, hot girlsummer. Like that is what and the
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people who need that at that pointin their journey, right, that's what's
going to help them. At anotherpoint they they may work with a Violetta
Plushakova who's been here on the podcast, who's going to help bring more depth
than nuance into things to help youreally expand you know, your role as
a starfire priestess or whatever whatever itis that you're going into. That that's
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a huge thing. Jay I haven'tsaid that out loud to you yet.
That's a big deal that I justhad that awareness because I feel like it
allows me to just be who Iam without trying to hold all perspectives at
all times. That's a lot somethingI've told you as well. But you
know, like, be you becauseyou're It's no fucking way you can please
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everybody. There's no way you canhold space for everybody. And there's all
different kind of people in the world, you know what I'm saying. We
could all say the same thing butsay it differently, and it's gonna resonate
with different people. So be whoyou are. And if you're bubbly and
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you want to ride unicorns, whichJenny does perfectly fine, like own that
ship, yeah, own that shit, And there's gonna be people like me
like I don't want to ride aunicorn, right, you know what I'm
saying. But it's like, cool, I'm not knocking you because you do,
and I think I think that's that'swhere it is for me. Right,
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Like I said early, just becausemy path is different doesn't mean your
path is wrong. You know,like, hey, she rides unicorns.
Cool, I don't want to rideunicorns, but I'm gonna let her do
her. You know, I'm notgoing to bash you for that, because
that's your thing. Yeah, AndI think that's the thing too in these
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these these realms, these lane justlike Yo, my lane is de lane.
If you're not my lane, you'rewrong. But if I'm in your
lane and everybody else's your lane,EU lane is overpopulated. It's overcrowded,
and I'm not gonna be able tomove. So I'm just gonna stay in
my lane and I'm gonna respect yourlane. I don't have to agree with
your lane, but your lane ain'tmy lane. Yeah, Jay, thank
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you for spending time with me,with us on this episode and adding more
depth and nuances conversation. I'm excitedto listen back. I think this will
be a really good one. AndI'm excited too because I really am continuing
to deepen my belief that everything happensfor a reason. It happens in new
timing because I know that when Ilisten to this message, I feel like,
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in that moment, it's gonna bethe perfect moment because either I'm going
to have another little doubt thing orI'm going to hear it from like that
new version of me and I'm gonnabe like, Wow, that's so cool.
That is so cool, Like,I know that there's going to be
that moment listening, and I knowfor you listening, you've had some level
of shifts, some level of awarenessto this because you were brought to this
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podcast for a reason. You werebrought to this episode for a reason,
if this is your first time listeningto potentially help you feel not alone in
this process, in this process ofnavigating self doubt and trusting who you are
and trusting your intuition, like youfucking got this. Thank you for joining
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Jay, and we will see youall on another episode in the future.
Bye, Hey, don't go yet. If you're looking to continue the conversation
and to hang out with me outsideof the podcast, and you want to
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for tuning in, and I'll seeyou on the next episode.
That life and fun listening at DANSpodcast Radio. Welcome to another episode of
the Life Adventteress podcast. I'm JennyHolly, your host, and this is
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the podcast and the place to beif you are into spirituality, growing more,
traveling, loving life, and especiallytalking about the real roll stuff and
different edges of spirituality. So today'stopic is one that is super present in
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my life right now, and it'sbeen interesting because I've been on a journey
as you guys, if you've beenfollowing along with the episodes, I've been
on this journey where I've been reallydigging more and more into self awareness and
noticing patterns and behaviors and noticing theplaces where I've been stuck, and also
tying that into what the record keepershave been teaching me and through me,
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whether it be the messages that comethrough for readings or even in the group
program Seven Weeks of Magic, Privateprogram, Seven Weeks of Magic. Like,
there's a lot of messages that arefollowing a very similar trend, is
similar thread, and where everything rightin this moment is leading to for me
in my life is noticing I guess, I guess the best way I could
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put is noticing cycles where you knowyou're on cloud nine, you're believing,
you're trusting, and then you kindof hit this little dip and you hit
a dip where you're like, Okay, well I feel lost or I'm not
sure my purpose or why am Idoing this entrepreneurial thing, or someone show
me a sign. And I'm notsaying I have all of those feelings as
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deep as I've had them in thepast right now, but I've just noticed
that I'm in this cycle. AndJay and I, my husband, were
talking this morning about you know thosemoments where you want to give up,
or those moments, especially as anentrepreneur, where you're just kind of like,
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give me some kind of a sign, let me know him on the
right path, or you know,you're looking for some kind of external thing
to show that like, I don'tknow, it'd give you a little confidence
boost, I guess so as wewere so basically, I invited Jay on
the podcast on this episode to havethis conversation because I wanted to have another
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depth, another dynamic, another perspectivehere, and let me say it this
way. I wanted to give depthto a conversation and give a different perspective
versus it just being my voice andmy experience. Jay if if you haven't
heard him on a previous episode,he was on when he talked about nomadic
mindset. Him and I have apodcast together they called The Holistic Life,
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and we do talk about a lotof things, but they're not as like
forwardly spiritual and like on the edgesof spirituality like this one is. So
Jay is if you don't know him, Jay is really deep. He is
also very spiritual. He just isn'tlike branding himself out there as like a
spiritual coach or anything. But he'sgot a lot of perspective, a lot
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of life experience, and I lovewhat he brings into this conversation. We
had this conversation as in like twosentences or something so far, and I
was like, can we please recordthis? So this conversation is really raw,
just happening in the moment. SoJay, welcome, Welcome back to
the Life Adventures podcasts. Glad tobe here. Well, it's funny because
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it kind of feels funny being like, welcome back to the Life Adventures podcast
because it kind of feels like you'repart of my podcast all the time,
but your voice isn't here. Becauseof all the conversations we have and you
help me to go even deeper inmy journey and exploration. So before we
start, would you just share abit about yourself, Like, share a
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bit about like I gave a bitof an intro, but to share a
bit about yourself. Where do youfeel like you're at spiritually? What have
you spent your time doing? Likewhat has given you like depth and perspective.
I think one of the biggest thingsthat's giving me depth and perception is
that the awareness, the understanding thatI've learned a lot. I've learned a
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lot in Sellectually, I've learned alot. Logically, I've learned a lot
of spiritually, and even with learninga lot, I still know and understand.
I don't know everything, if thatmakes sense. For the amount of
information that I know, you know, there's still so much more out there,
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and I want to be open.I want to be open to different
thoughts of belief, different ideas,different you know, paths if you will,
because just because I've learned one waydoesn't make that the right way or
the way. So it's just knowingand understanding, Like, yes, I'm
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living in my reality, but thereare so many other different realities, and
I can't get stuck in, youknow, the path that I'm on,
because there's there there isn't just onepath. You know. The path may
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go straight, you know, itmay verge off to a different path,
might go left, you might goright, and understanding that you know,
yes, in the moment, Imight be seeing something from my particular path,
but to take a bird's eye viewor take an aerial snapshot of everything
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and being like, yo, okay, yeah, I'm on this path,
but Jenny's over here to the leftor Sharon's over there to the right,
and it's not one one way,And I feel like getting out of that,
that labeling of good and bad andjust being in the moment and knowing
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and recognizing like, Okay, ifI'm seeing something that's good or bad,
why am I labeling it that way? What makes it good? What makes
it bad? And understanding if Iwas a different person and viewing from a
different point of view, it mightnot be the good or bad I'm defining,
guys, and just understand there's there'sso many different paths. Yeah,
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you know, it's interesting because whatis sparking this conversation was you you came
into the room. We were chatting, you know, like morning chat,
husband, wife, like, oh, what are you doing today, sweetie?
How's your day? Whatever? Itwent that corning, but essentially,
like I was asking because Jay's beendoing YouTube shorts every day, talking about
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different things and really just giving likelittle drops of inspiration and wisdom nuggets and
things like that, and I wasasking what he was going to do a
short on today and do you wantto share? Like it doesn't have to
be a big long story, buta bit about like what the essence or
do you want me to share?So he had shared, you know,
he's been doing shorts every day,and as you guys know, social media,
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no matter what platform it is,sometimes it's spiking and sometimes it's not
right. And showing up and puttingyour time and effort into something over and
over and over and not quote unquoteseeing the results or whatever. You know,
you hit these moments where you're like, God, I don't know should
I should I quit? And notsaying Jay was in the play us to
quit, but that's what he wantedto talk about. And it's interesting that
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we're both experiencing and noticing these feelings. And I earlier this week. I
think on Monday, you know,it was like I was real annoyed because
I was seeing the cycle of havinglike feeling on purpose and having intentional focus
and having you know, those outerspikes of validation and you know who people
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are enrolling in the program. Woohoo, people are coming to readings, woo
hoo. People are sending me messages. Yeay, this is fun. And
I mean I also have a wholecareer in sales where like I got those
like spikes of dopamine pretty regularly withpeople quote unquote needing me to respond and
put out fires. And then youknow, I've noticed this cycle where I
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have these spikes, I'm in purpose, and then I kind of dipped down
into this other part of it whereit's like, Okay, what am I
doing now? Now what? Andthe thing that's so interesting is like I
really know at my core and believein my core what I'm doing in my
purpose and like going out there andsharing about the records and helping change lives.
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I mean, there's such a deeppurpose there for me, in such
deep why. And at the sametime, I'm still having moments where I'm
experiencing this like lower part, thisdip in the cycle of like I don't
know, Like I'm mad at myself, I'm disappointed myself, I feel lost.
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I want to get into action.I'm looking for ways to find the
strategy. So it's like getting intolike how do I make this work?
What do I do? What ismy next step? Getting into that type
of energy that comes from a placeof scarcity, that comes from that place.
Right. I don't know if that'sthe same thing for you, But
there's like this level of awareness ofthis energy that comes up that I feel
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like is inviting a lot of usto lean more into the trust and the
and the belief and the trust andself and the faith, like inviting us
to lean more into those things whenthey come up. It's a couple of
things, a couple of things.We've been conditioned, programmed and wired for
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that external that external validation. Youknow, if you think about it,
ever since you were a child,you start to walk, Oh good job,
good job, good job. Youknow what I'm saying. You're in
school, you know, you geta grade, you get an a B.
You know, oh, oh mygod, you did great. You
get a cd EF. Oh youneed to work better. Right, So
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these things are have been programmed froma certain age, and they still take
home tape shape take shape in differentways. So, yes, people signing
up for your program using this instance, since we're talking about it your program,
are signing up for a reading.Yeah, that's like the teacher giving
you an A or B. Youknow what I'm saying, Like, Yo,
yes, I made a good greatAnd you know, if y'all't know
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about Jenny in school, man,we're not gonna go there. We're definitely
not. Yeah, we're not goingthat's gonna open a whole. But I
say that jokingly. But even lookat that. Look at how you were
tied to getting such a good gradein school and when you got something lower
than that. You know what I'msaying, You kind of went into that
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quote unquote Valley that we're talking about, right, Oh, what can I
do? I gotta get the goodgrade. I want to a plus plus?
Like, oh, I should domore, I should study whatever your
thing was, study more extra Ieven went to it. I even went
to a teacher in college because hewas looking to be my only be and
I was like, certain the extracredit I could do to get me.
He was like hell no, Butbut think about how that has flowed over
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to other aspects of our life.Yep, you know what I'm saying.
So and with teachers, you havea CD and that's what they say,
Oh, you can do extra credit, or you need to study harder,
or you need to like this hasbeen programming wired. So even in our
adult lives, we still have thatthat that connection or that the conditions attached
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to our outcome right, instead ofjust being in the in the moment and
understanding, especially being entrepreneurs, it'snot that what you're doing is good or
bad. It's not that you needto do more of It might just be
like, what do you need tolearn in this moment? Or you know,
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hey, I know universe talking,the potential you have, I know
where you want to go. Butthe person you are right now isn't ready
for that. So we're going tohave you go through some more reps.
We're going to have you do somemore things because the place that you're trying
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to sit in you're not prepared tosit in yet. You need to be
another person to sit in where you'regoing right, You're on the right track.
We're not saying you're not, butyou're not there yet. But being
the logical creatures that we are,we don't see that because we don't see
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the conditions we've attached to. Oh, my business is doing great, right,
and we quit. We quit threefeet from gold and we quit.
We stop digging because it doesn't lookaway we think it should look And this
is and I'm and I'm not talkingfrom a place like oh, I'm there,
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I've arrived. I'm telling you likeI'm telling you this because this is
the conversation I had with myself yesterday. You know what I'm saying. The
information I'm giving you today is theinformation I would have gave given myself yesterday.
So it's like, you have tohave this awareness, you have to
have knowing and understanding that it's usuallyus getting in our way. And if
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you think you're going to take thisjourney by yourself and get to where you
need to go, like no,because you have these moments where yeah,
you're on top of the mount butthink think about this. You love the
mountains. You kind of gotta goup to get to the summit. You
kind of gotta go back down.Right, there's peaks and valleys. So
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my personal opinion, you can agreeto disagree but you're not always going to
be on the summit. My personalphilosophy is you experienced the summit to know
and understand what the view is likewhen you're down in the valley. M
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that what you just said, itfeels like it ties in to what I've
been experiencing, because I have beenexperiencing this from a whole different perspective from
the past. Is in the valley. In the past, I would have
the valley means something about me,about me, my identity. I would
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feel embarrassed, what's wrong with me? Why do? I would look for
something to fix it? And it'sfrom that energy that I would have signed
up for someone's free class or reallylooked for somebody to like show me the
way, or looking to fix thefeelings that I had and what especially with
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like everything, This has come upin readings, This has come up in
seven weeks of magic group program,private stuff. This has come up across
the board where it's this process of, like you said, from the valley,
because you were at the peak andbecause you're willing to observe and come
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into a place of aware of thesefeelings of this valley, It's almost like
you are absorbing it from the peak, and you're holding space without having any
of those things mean anything about youand your identity. It's like you're holding
space for those feelings. And Ifeel like you're holding space for those feelings
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and allowing them to release or alkomizingthem or transmuting them or whatever it is
that was meant to be instead offorcing the feelings to be something else.
Because I feel like that keeps basedon my experience, that keeps me in
the valley longer than just recognizing like, huh, this is cute. This
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has been my new thing when I'mexplaining things like this is cute. Wow,
that's cute. I'm in the valley, how cute of me to be
in the valley and notice I thinkit's the first time that I have noticed,
like, holy crap, this ispart of the cycle that I've been
in, and this is where Itypically do ABC X y Z. So
therefore, I'm going to choose tobe very careful and intentional about what decisions
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I'm making from this energy right becauseI feel like it's in that space and
we're talking about entrepreneur like life,but this could be you are, you
know, wanting to go after anew job or you are working your intuition
or whatever it is. Yeah,Like so it's like in these moments,
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you're like aware, like, wow, this is what I typically do in
these moments. So I'm not goingto I'm going to choose not to make
those same actions because I know forme in the past, what would get
anchored in was even more doubt,even more self doubt, lack of confidence,
wondering if I'm good enough, andthen I would have to like coming
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back up to the mountaintop was thatmuch harder and that much more grueling.
When really coming up to the mountaintop, I feel like it's just a perspective,
Right, you still have to climbup the mountain. But what if
the climb up the mountain, Okay, hiking peeps, Like, what if
the climb up the mountain is liketwo miles pretty standard incline? Yeah,
a little hard, a little tough. Maybe there's a couple of boulder climbs
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or something versus like a twelve milegrueler that has a massive amount of incline
in a short period of time.I feel like that's what I've been coming
out of, and to some degree, at some some conscious level, enjoying
it because I'm like, look atme, I did the twelve miler right.
And it's interesting because while we weresitting and talking about this or the
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earlier this week, what dropped inwas this saying or I don't know this
saying this nugget from the universe isit's from the place of doubt. We
seek answers often outside of us.Yeah, I mean everything you totally relate
to that. Everything we have,everything we need, like if you believe
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it or not, like is alreadyin us. You just have to come
into a place of self awareness andthis is this is probably what you've been
working on with your group program,like people leaning into that intuition. Yeah,
because a lot of times, especiallywhen even when something is going wrong,
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right, most people were like,oh tell me what to do.
Why Because you're looking for a validationfor feeling you already feel, or you're
looking to confirm something you already feel, and you just want someone to be
like, Okay, you're right.But like if you really sit and ask
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yourself, you know what I'm saying, It's like, Yo, this I
probably shouldn't do this, Jenny,should I do this? No, you
probably shouldn't do this, Okay,cool, Right, I shouldn't do Right,
Instead of being like I got thisfeeling that I shouldn't do it,
I'm running with that. Yeah.You know, it's an interesting because I
feel like, yeah, yes,yes, Because in Akashic record readings,
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this happens all the time. Peopleask a question, the record keepers share
whatever answer, and then people go, yeah, that's what I thought,
because it's really confirming something they alreadyknew but hadn't come into that full awareness
like you're saying, I wouldn't evencall a full awareness because they are aware
full acceptance. There you go.I like that better, full acceptance.
I like that better. Asn't saythe other part of this this saying here
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right, it's from the place ofdoubt we seek answers off and outside of
us. The other thing I feelwhen I put this in the group in
a post was I think it's okayif we seek guidance outside of us,
But it's more about the energy andintention behind it, because if it's coming
from a place of curiosity and playfulness, right, there's yes, the answers
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are all inside of us, andat the same time, if we are
seeking answers outside of us, comingfrom a place of curiosity and playfulness instead
of like, oh my god,what's wrong with me? I need to
fix this to a whole different energy. I definitely, I totally agree,
because yes, everything we have isin us, but there's going to be
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points in time where you're going toneed that guidance. Right. But even
with that, a guide, rightguide is going to guide you. They're
not necessarily going to say like Yo, this is the right or wrong or
right path. They're just there toguide. There's to facilitate the journey.
At the end of the day,you still get to choose, but not
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but yes, And it's kind ofwhat you said, like what is the
intention of the god? Are youlooking for the guide to give you the
answers that you're looking for? Areyou looking to are you looking to the
guide for like you said, Hey, I'm curious, I'm I'm being playful,
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like I'm not looking for this tobe the end all be all,
Like one of that one of thethings when people ask me questions, it's
like, hey, answer a questionright, And I give them an answer
and they're like, Yo, youdidn't answer my question. It's like,
no, I did answer your question. I didn't give you the answer you
wanted to your question. Yeah.Yeah, I think that is fairly common
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in acoustic record readings too. Inthe moment, that's sometimes what people are
feeling with whatever answer is coming through. It's not until they sat with it
or listen back to it they're like, oh, okay, I see,
I see how that was. Okay, you know. And I think that
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in a conversation with you where someone'sasking a question, it's not like every
single conversation you're having is being recordedfor them too, then, right,
Like a lot of times it's fleeting. We just want like quick answers.
Now, is there anything else youwant to say on this part of our
conversation because I'm feeling guided to showa message that came through. Hey you're
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driving, okay, Well, Ijust want to make sure I want to
give you space if there's anything elseyou wanted to add. So I was
asking the record keepers really about thistopic in many many ways, and one
of the messages that came through I'mabout to share it's called relaxing into trust.
Relaxing into trust and deepening your levelof trust goes far beyond the thinking,
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believing, and seeing strategy that manyuse and also get stuck in and
around you. See, you willthink, parentheses, receive, believe,
and see absolutely and what we aresaying and inviting you to consider that this
process isn't about the strategy for howyou will arrive there. Yes, part
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of your process may include a strategythat allows your mind to get out of
the way so that you can beginand continue to listen to the sound of
your soul. Expanding, deepening,relaxing into trust are all cute words and
all things that you are already doingand not giving yourself enough credit for.
At times, there is still adesire for outer confirmation that you are receiving
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from your soul, higher self,Guide's Spirit, God, Universe is in
fact, quote true and quote theright message. Part of deepening your trust
is continuing to release control of themind desiring a certain outcome and to continue
to or begin to bet on yourselfby going all in and believing what you
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receive as guidance from your intuition.What if you were to align to the
possibility that the steps and inspiration andguidance that came in from your intuition,
higher self, Guide's soul, Godand the steps or actions you are taking
as a result is in alignment withyour highest path. See holding onto the
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fear of losing or not achieving acertain outcome can keep you closed off from
all the possibilities that are present toyou in any given moment. Deepening the
connection with yourself and trusting your intuitiveguidance is rooted in the embodiment of the
truth or your soul. Continue topractice and chip away at believing and trusting
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more and more with each and everyday that passes this message. For me,
me receiving this message and that's thefirst time I've read it since it
came through, is me receiving thismessage, I feel a place of calmness,
Like I feel calm hearing that,and in a way, that is
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the confirmation that I'm quote on theright path just hearing that message. And
so it's interesting because this is justnow like a little mini realization that I'm
saying out loud. Is I feellike a lot of what the record keeper
share, not just in readings,like in these messages that I share,
whether it be here on the podcastor my YouTube channel or in my programs,
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a lot of them helped to giveus confirmation or the clarity of the
reflection back like, huh, okay, it really is that simple? Really
is that simple? A lot oftimes we as people over complicate a lot
of things. Yeah, over complicateworking, over complicates, over complicates starting
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a business, overcomplicate relationships. Yes, yes, it's truly that simple,
or it can be that simple.But we go into overthinking because once again,
be conditions we've placed on these certainoutcomes. I'm not successful unless it
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looks a certain way. Yep,you know what I'm saying. I won't
be happy the relationship until it looksa certain way, right. And it's
like and then we go out tofind these coaches, we buy these strategies,
these blueprints because these blueprints marketing geniuseswill tell you you do my program
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and it will look a certain way, and you're like, yo, that's
what I'm looking for, yeah,instead of just applying like what you've already
learned and practicing that. Right.One of the shorts I've I did was
talking about the great swordsman, Likeyou could give a great swordsman a dull
(27:41):
sword and they'll still be able tocut something with the dull sword because they
know it's not the tool that they'reusing, but the technique they've mastered.
A lot of us want the tools. We want the shiny tools. Oh
give me, give me the theblack and decker drill, because you know
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the black and decker drill has fivespeeds, right, instead of mastering the
technique needed to master the drill,because if you master technique, it doesn't
matter what tool you put in yourhand, because you have the technique.
And a lot of the techniques isworking on listening to your intuition, working
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on putting one foot in front ofthe other, working on when you're triggered,
not saying you made me mad orI'm sad or why do I feel
triggered? Why is this emotion?And I'm not just talking about the lower
frequency emotions sadness, anger, youknowed out all that stuff, the higher
ones too, Why am I feelingso happy? Because that gives you a
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deeper awareness of the saying, Okay, I realize and understand when this happens,
the result is usually this. Soif I know that this is going
to happen, I can be proactiveinstead of reactive and so life business whatever.
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You know what I'm saying, Whenthose things happen it's not like,
oh my god, it's like,Okay, I see you, and you
would just and I feel a strongpart of that too, is being around
a supportive group of people that willkeep that at the front of your mind,
right because if you're trying to runa business by yourself and doubt creeps
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in, as doubt usually does,like everything that we're telling you, everything
that Jenny tells you, If youfollow my stuff, everything that I tell
you, it's not like, yes, I've mastered that. No, Doubt's
gonna come at you a different way. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna show
up differently and like a strong thing. It's like, especially in your industry,
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having a supportive group of people whoare gonna tell you like, yo,
you got this, or you knowwhat I'm saying, I've been there,
this is what I did, notsaying you have to do it my
way. But look at it fromthis angle, because when we're in it,
we we we're usually we have blinderson, so we can only see
the thing that's in front of us. But having that group of people,
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it could be a coach, itcould be a mentor, it could be
a good friend. Now, ifit is a good friend, please understand
because if like you were in thatperson or at the same space, that
might not be you know, theperson you need in your corner, you
know what I'm saying. But whenyou take the blinders off, opens up
a whole new world. Yeah,I love I love that you brought up
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to you know, having a communityor a coach or a mentor guide when
like you need help believing in yourself. You need that anchor some it's a
community or resource whatever to really helpyou anchor that in Because I just heard
this on a podcast yesterday, andI love the way it is presented,
especially when it comes to like thespiritual work and is sometimes you have to
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or you're gonna choose to Let's putit that way. You're gonna choose to
bet on yourself and lean into acoach, a guide, a mentor and
enroll in a program that scares theshit out of you and at the same
time may not make logical sense butfeels like the right move because that program,
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that space, that container, thatwhatever it is, with that coach,
whether it be group or private,right, they're going to help reflect
back to you how fucking awesome andamazing you are and the ways to navigate
that, and it's almost like itacts as a bridge to help you really
come to the other side of this, where then you can more easily do
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these things on your own, meaninghaving the awareness and just noticing, like,
you know what, I'm in avalley right now, you know,
like cool, And I feel likewhen we are detached from the meaning that
we usually make of these emotions orthese things that are passing through us,
the more detached we are from makinga story out of that, the quicker
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they moved through, And something justpopped up for me about the value.
Usually it's cooler in the valley.You know, we're like, oh shit,
I'm at this low point in mylife. Maybe it's just a point
for you to chill for a hotsecond, yeah, before you take on
the next mountain. Yeah, beforeyou take on the next Yeah. Because
if you're climbing and climbing and climbingand climbing, you might get burnt out.
(32:44):
So maybe, like like you said, like how do you choose to
perceive that valley? It could justbe like, okay, yo, I've
been doing a lot. I hitthe summit. Oooh that was great.
It's cheerful a little bit m orstep I can reevaluate my next step because
I don't know the terms the mountainI just summited. That might have been
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a eight hundred foot mountain, right, and that took a lot out of
me. And this next mountain islike thirty two hundred feet. So what
happens when you try when you tryto climb it next mountain? You're not
prepared. So these moments where stuffisn't moving as quickly as we want them
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to, like step back and justlook like, Okay, what is the
next thing? What's the next mountain? Looking? Like? Am I even
prepared for that? And maybe thisis a time for me to like make
sure my my my base camp isin order and I have all the tools
and stuff that I need because Idon't want to be climbing mount what's that
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big one that everybody everest and nothave enough oxygen. Yeah, it's interesting
because some of the potentially challenging questionsthat come up as you're prepping, evaluating,
let me get moved through, especiallyif you're like, why is it
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not happening? I've done so manythings. I've tried so many things.
I've hired this, this and that, I've done this, this, and
that. Like you've done all thethings, maybe a different question will present
itself if you give it space too, of what am I avoiding? And
or what am I not letting goof? Right? And the answers behind
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those questions, if you will allowyourself to sit in them, maybe the
exact thing that helps unwind everything whichcomes into this whole process of noticing detaching
from these things meaning something for youridentity and allowing them just to be like,
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hey, cool, I do that. That's cute, right, Like
I don't need to figure out whyI'm doing it, as to like where
did this come from? And whatfamily trait was passed down? And what's
wrong with me? And how likefor me not saying this is for everybody,
but for me. I have foundthat what I'm being taught even more
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and even more is feeling the energyaround these thoughts in these processes. That's
what this awareness things taught me iswhen I'm trying to figure something out,
I'm noticing how much effort and energyis around that that then drains me quite
a bit. Or even when Iam I was just telling something the other
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day like I'd rather be fucking jumpingfrom cloud to cloud and Unicorn to Unicorn.
From a perspective standpoint, I mean, like we life is so great.
I'm hiring the angels. Look atall these beautiful things happening, Like
I'd rather be in that playful,joyful energy then spending my time and a
stressful trying to figure it out what'swrong with me. And it's interesting because
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you're like, we're not meant tobe on the mountaintops all the time.
And I felt like a little bitlike ooh to calling me out for like
having that feeling of wanting to flyfrom unicorn to unicorn. I think the
thing is is I am more thanever choosing not to bypass my emotions that
come so that I can be onthe unicorn. For me, it feels
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more as a perspective shift in theway that I'm interacting with these things so
quick, quick perspective. Even withthat, like there's nothing wrong for jumping
or writing Unicorn to unicorn, rightbut knowing Unicorne's gonna get tired, it's
gonna need you know what I'm saying. So so yes, it's cool to
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be like, oh, Unical,you're burning your unicorns out, Like damn,
can we break this. Oh,you're so right, but I don't
like it. No, you knowwhat I think, I think, I
think for me, just I guessthis is just like a little perspective.
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I get what you're saying, becausethere is a there is a toxic side
to writing the unicorn all the time. And at the same time, what
my like, what I feel likeI was speaking into maybe if not come
into a place where I can fullyarticulate. It is just really recognizing the
energies around things and how much somethingtrains me where previously I was unaware to
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that impact or that effect that spendingtime stressing about something, worrying about something,
trying to fix something. It's alittle flatting, like I'm tired,
break stop stop putting a needle inmy you know what? You know what
else I realized and what we'll wrapit up after this is like I realized
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a couple of things. One ofthe beliefs that I've held subconsciously that I
feel like unwinding is that as Iwatch so many different influencers, coaches,
teachers, whatever, people who admire, people who I follow or whatever,
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and then I also witness some ofthe attacks that come in the comments and
the cancel culture and all of that. And you guys have probably heard me
say things like this throughout the podcast, where it's like, Okay, I'm
talking about this, I can't possiblytalk about all the directions and all the
nuances and all the things, rightbecause I think that I've had this underlying
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belief or expectation for myself that Iwould be able to hold space for all,
I would be able to talk aboutall, I would not overlook any
thing. I would be able tohave the depth, and I should have
the depth as a leader, aninfluencer, whatever. And honestly, like
I'm even unraveling that to where rightnow my role, my purpose is to
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be a guide and to share andguides don't need to have it all like
look like a total side note abouthow about a guide that I ran into
on the top of a mountain literallyand these guides that I talked to,
I knew more about the area andI was visiting the area than the guides
knew about the area. They travelall over the world, they get a
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little booklet to give them the insand outs of kind of like what they
need to know. Yes, theyknow how to lead people up the mountain
and give them a great ex vacation. These guides who didn't know shit relatively
speaking. Obviously, they knew enoughto be a guide. I knew more
than them, and they were guidingbecause it's not about that. So anyways,
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I got sidetracked. I just wentto that mountain in my head.
So let me come back and seewhat I was. What I was bringing
this all to. Oh, theawareness of trying to be able to be
the one that explains all the perspectives, because when I listen to other teachers
who talk about the nuances or talkabout the depth of things and be like,
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one thing I don't like about,you know, the spiritual coaching world
is that it's blah blah blah blahblah. This way. It's it's about
writing unicorns and going from thing tothing. You know, there's there's this
aspect to it, right. Theyshare that kind of a thing, and
I agree with what they share.I'm like, yeah, you know,
there is more depth there. WhatI realized recently is that there are some
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people who were meant to be theunicorn writers and help people learn how to
ride their unicorns and to be bubblyand to be up. Doesn't mean,
they don't have depth in them,but that is their role because there are
people who need that as part oftheir process to need Like I'm just thinking,
Amanda Merit, she rides unicorns allday long. Not to say that
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in her in her programs and inher one on ones and in her other
things. She doesn't go into thedepths of things where she hasn't experienced,
because I'm sure she has, butlike that's not part of her like space
to hold her space to hold isto help you dream bigger, think bigger,
trust yourself, believe yourself. Ridethem fucking unicorns. Girl, We're
having a bad bitch, hot girlsummer. Like that is what and the
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people who need that at that pointin their journey, right, that's what's
going to help them. At anotherpoint they they may work with a Violetta
Plushakova who's been here on the podcast, who's going to help bring more depth
than nuance into things to help youreally expand you know, your role as
a starfire priestess or whatever whatever itis that you're going into. That that's
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a huge thing. Jay I haven'tsaid that out loud to you yet.
That's a big deal that I justhad that awareness because I feel like it
allows me to just be who Iam without trying to hold all perspectives at
all times. That's a lot somethingI've told you as well. But you
know, like, be you becauseyou're It's no fucking way you can please
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everybody. There's no way you canhold space for everybody. And there's all
different kind of people in the world, you know what I'm saying. We
could all say the same thing butsay it differently, and it's gonna resonate
with different people. So be whoyou are. And if you're bubbly and
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you want to ride unicorns, whichJenny does perfectly fine, like own that
ship, yeah, own that shit, And there's gonna be people like me
like I don't want to ride aunicorn, right, you know what I'm
saying. But it's like, cool, I'm not knocking you because you do,
and I think I think that's that'swhere it is for me. Right,
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Like I said early, just becausemy path is different doesn't mean your
path is wrong. You know,like, hey, she rides unicorns.
Cool, I don't want to rideunicorns, but I'm gonna let her do
her. You know, I'm notgoing to bash you for that, because
that's your thing. Yeah, AndI think that's the thing too in these
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these these realms, these lane justlike Yo, my lane is de lane.
If you're not my lane, you'rewrong. But if I'm in your
lane and everybody else's your lane,EU lane is overpopulated. It's overcrowded,
and I'm not gonna be able tomove. So I'm just gonna stay in
my lane and I'm gonna respect yourlane. I don't have to agree with
your lane, but your lane ain'tmy lane. Yeah, Jay, thank
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you for spending time with me,with us on this episode and adding more
depth and nuances conversation. I'm excitedto listen back. I think this will
be a really good one. AndI'm excited too because I really am continuing
to deepen my belief that everything happensfor a reason. It happens in new
timing because I know that when Ilisten to this message, I feel like,
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in that moment, it's gonna bethe perfect moment because either I'm going
to have another little doubt thing orI'm going to hear it from like that
new version of me and I'm gonnabe like, Wow, that's so cool.
That is so cool, Like,I know that there's going to be
that moment listening, and I knowfor you listening, you've had some level
of shifts, some level of awarenessto this because you were brought to this
(44:30):
podcast for a reason. You werebrought to this episode for a reason,
if this is your first time listeningto potentially help you feel not alone in
this process, in this process ofnavigating self doubt and trusting who you are
and trusting your intuition, like youfucking got this. Thank you for joining
(44:52):
Jay, and we will see youall on another episode in the future.
Bye, Hey, don't go yet. If you're looking to continue the conversation
and to hang out with me outsideof the podcast, and you want to
connect on social or you want toreceive free weekly channeled messages from the Akashic
(45:14):
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