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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hell.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is David
Patrick Carey with Church of the Eternal Logos. We got
a great stream today and a major think you need
to go out to Tara and her son who sponsored
today's stream, and actually from what she told me, it's
more her son's idea than her so major thank you
to both of you and for your son. Wonderful, wonderful topic. Well,
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let me rephrase that. Not a wonderful topic in the
sense of we're gonna be diving into Bail and Moloch
and some of the contexts for ritual human sacrifice. I
should take that back. Maybe not a wonderful topic, but
a great topic to dive into that I really haven't
done and doing some of the research, especially when we
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talk about bail. One of the previous dreams that I
did that I think sort of goes along with some
of these ancient cults in these ancient practices and how
they diverge from Christianity, is I did a thing on
temple prostitutes, the history of temple prostitutes, and that's going
to come up when we look at bail, because there's
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a few unique features. Obviously, both Bail and Moloch are
mentioned in scripture concerning warnings regarding the sacrificing of children
to these gods. And Moloch is a little bit more
iconic in the sense that he's a bullheaded god, gold
humanoid with his arms stretched out over an open fire
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in which these ancient people, including the Israelites, and this
is one of the reasons why the prophets warned them
multiple times. And by the way, I have a document
today and I have a bunch of a handful of
the major biblical references that these guys in case you
guys want that, so we'll go over that in a
little bit. But they would sacrifice their children for a
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variety of reasons. Now we as modern people look at
this and think, how the heck were people, you know,
sacrificing their firstborn and such a tumultuous, difficult environment like
the ancient period, especially in the Levant, And I think
it helps to sort of contextualize their psychology in that
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the negative things that were occurring to them could be
a drought, could be famine, could be disease sweeping over
a tribe. They thought that this had to be correlated
and typically with the Canaanites and the Phoenicians and the
Moabites and these other tribes around the Israelites. After again
Moses sort of takes them to the Promised Land. They're
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all participating in a religion, these pagan religions that are
typically polytheistic, and that these deities, as any sort of polytheism,
it sort of anthropomorphizes natural energies, and they felt that
if you sacrifice something very dear to yourself, like your
firstborn child, that then in return you could get you know,
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a beneficial growth period, financial prosperity, success, and worldly endeavors.
And so from that context, I'm going to discuss how
really Moloch and Baal worship are still alive and thriving
in the modern period. Now we're not seeing you know,
statues erected and people just offering their child on top
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of an open fire like that maybe you did in
the ancient period. But going through look at the I
was trying to find commentary from Orthodox Church fathers on
this topic, and one of the things that really kind
of stuck out in something that we shouldn't be unique
to anybody watching this channel, is that Bail and Moloch
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are just different masks. Of the same demonic energy and
the same demonic forces that are acting and working in
the world today. So even though for the Canaanites and
the Phoenicians, these were literal, you know, gods that they
believed were the sustainers of the universe. For the Phoenicians,
we're going to get into some of the archaeological evidence
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of ritual sacrifice and carthage, of which there is a
ton and it's pretty disturbing. I mean, we're going to
be looking at tofits that have thousands of babies, and
this is archaeological evidence. So this is at least, you know,
in the ballpark of maybe two thousand years old, but
within like urns and pottery, they're finding like weak old babies.
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So we're talking about very verious small children and all
the way up to like a one year old that
were being ritually sacrificed. And it's not sure whether they
were put into these pots, probably crying and wailing and
then put on the fire or just placed the body
on the open fire. But they've have thousands of evidence
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of these ritualistic sites where all these babies are found,
and so and one of the things that I found
diving into this topic is that a lot of contemporary
scholarship is trying to dismiss some of this stuff, which
I was a little surprised by that. Essentially before the
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mid eighteen hundreds, especially the twentieth century, we'll just say
the twentieth century, generally speaking, everybody felt that it was
very credible the biblical witnesses, descriptions from the Roman Empire
talking about some of the ritualistic practices and Carthage. But
modern scholarship is trying to kind of wooo this style
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and said, oh, you know, these are real more symbolic.
And even when I was looking at some of the
like the Rabbinic Judaism and you know, the post Second
Temple destruction of the Second Temple form of Judaism, is
that looking at the tal mood, they often interpret this
as symbolism and symbolic, and that is not the way
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that the Church fathers interpret it. They interpret this stuff
as very literal. And I think with the evidence in Carthage,
we can see that whether one feels that any sort
of biblical references exaggerate, which I do not believe, we
do have hard facts that this was a practice. And
I'm going to make the case that it's still continuing
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in the present day. Obviously the most notable which is abortion,
and so I'm going to touch on that. I'm going
to do an opening monologue, and then what we're going
to be getting into today. As I put together a
document covering this topic, it's like twenty four pages. We
have an overview of who Moloch is, the historical origins,
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some of the ritualistic practices. Same with bail. We're then
going to be looking at who were the Phoenicians, who
were the Canaanites. We're going to be looking at potential
connections at least I'm making potential connections with the use
of Baphomet. Again, if we take the approach as Orthodox
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Christians that whether we're talking about Bapha Met you know,
the half male, half female, half human half animal deity
if you will, or idol of like the Church of Satan.
But general occultism really got popularized by elif As Levy,
a French occultists, and then really got picked up by
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Alistair Crowley and really has become a sort of symbol
of inversion. And if you focus too much on these
entities as like unique particulars, you're going to miss the
fact that all of these they're just masks of demonic
activity penetrating space and time. And so I have a
little bit of section trying to connect a little bit
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of Baphomet to some of these the bail and Moloch worship,
at least in the contemporary period. And then I have
a section on what I could find from church fathers
talking about Bail Moloch and human sacrifice and stuff like that.
So we're going to dive into that document. And then
I got some other stuff to look at, one of
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which is a very interesting article that I want to
read the whole thing. I mentioned this in a previous
stream that I have an articles written by a guy
on a sub sect. So I'm not here to endorse
the whole article. I just thought that pieces of it
were very interesting. I have again I'll go when we
read through it, I'll give you kind of my subtle
critiques to it. But it's talking about how Satanism is
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thriving in Israel, contemporary day Israel, Israel right now, obviously,
when we start getting into the sacrifcing of children and
the sacrificing of human life as present day expressions of
Moloch worship and I have a really interesting video by
an esoteric YouTube channel, so it's not Christian, but I
think out of I went through tons of documentaries and
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YouTube videos for some type of visual presentation for today,
and this was probably one of the best ones I
could find, both the pictures and also him picking up
on this trend that we as orthodox Christians view this
as a symbolic of expression of a real reality. Now again,
this is like an esoteric guy, so it's not coming
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at it explicitly from a Christian perspective. But we're going
to watch that. But this article I found it claims
that there are more Satanists and Luciferians initiated Luciferians in
the current state of Israel the per square foot than
any other nation in the world, which is very interesting,
and he has some evidence talking about the rise of
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potential at least according to this article, Moloch worship and
contemporary Israel, and how this is really growing amongst sort
of the populace there. Now it's not huge, but he
does have some presentation looks very much like a burning
Man festival like you'd see here in the US, out
in the desert. So I want to read that article.
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I got one again. The interesting little things in tidbits.
For example, the Moloch statue that was erected outside the
Roman Colisseum. I try to dive into that one and
find out, like who funded it. I was trying to
find is there any NGOs, Is there any religious organizations
out there that are promoting this stuff? And I couldn't.
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And I didn't even find a direct connection from the Vatican,
even though that was kind of my interpretation at first
regarding this Moloch statue at the Roman Colisseum. But I
couldn't find at least and maybe the Vatican was behind it.
Maybe there's a organizations. I read one article was more conspiratorial,
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didn't have any evidence, but claimed that some Jewish NGOs
or Jewish organizations were behind I couldn't really substantiate that,
so I'm not going to come on here and say
that's the case. What I could find, at least substantiated
was that the city of Rome itself, the municipality, they
were the ones who gave the okay to erect this thing.
They claimed that it's because they were trying to celebrate
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the archaeological history and evidence of Carthage and its relationship
to Rome. I find it very interesting that they would
erect this statue outside the coliseum. Again, I read a
few articles. One of them was talking about how obviously
the Roman Colosseum is a place of Christian martyrdom, right,
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and again this was I'm not going to use the
particular article I read, but somebody was saying, well, Moloch
then is just a reference to the coliseum being a
sort of sacrifice of Christians. And I thought that's a
really weird way to go about honoring the Christians by
putting up a Molock statue. They could have just put
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up a big Christian cross. They could have put up
some type of reverence to the martyrs who we know
did pass away, and maybe things about their lives, who
sacrifice for their devotion to Christ. I was like, that
doesn't sound right. You're gonna celebrate Christian martyrs by putting
up a Molock statue outside the Roman Colisseum. That doesn't
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I don't know, that doesn't really jive logically in my mind.
But I got an article on that. And there's an
interesting nineteen thirty three festival in Soldier Field in Chicago, Illinois,
where we're going to see a group of people do
a sort of mock sacrifice to Moloch, and I may
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I'm not gonna I'm gonna show a little bit of
that and maybe a little controversial here on the YouTube.
So I may take that video and download it and
actually put it up on the Logos Academy where I
know some of this more controversial stuff can be safe
and we can discuss that. So smash that. Like, guys,
we have tons of stuff to get into today. Again,
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a major thank you to Tara and her son for
sponsoring today's stream. I truly appreciate your guys' support, and
I truly appreciate your patience on me getting around to
doing all the research and reading and preparation for today's stream.
So to begin to begin, I just have a small
monologue because I got a big document and I want
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to read that full article, and we got a handful
of videos that I want to show you guys. The
first one that really struck me that I wanted to
mention is the difference in which fire is symbolically presented
between the Moloch and bail human sacrifices, and how we
understand this as Orthodox Christians. You've heard me speak before
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about what we refer to as the river of fire,
and that God's love, the Holy Trinity is a river
of fire. But for those who are wanting to align
closer to God, those who are wanting to repent, those
who are wanting to become more like Christ. That fire
doesn't burn, it purifies. And so typically fire throughout the
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ancient context, but definitely within the Orthodox context, symbolizes a
sort of purification. But in Moloch's context it refers more
to an all consuming fire, something that takes life and
demands sacrifice for a personal benefit or success. And looking
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at it and doing some reasons, you find a lot
of weird stuff doing research for some of these, at
least I do, because I go down all types of
rabbit holes and articles and links, and I found weird
stuff for people trying to claim that Christians and Jews
worship a similar our God to Moloch and bail and
that Yahweh's the same thing. And oh, look at the
binding of Isaac, which I'm going to come to, but
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the whole binding of Isaac where Abraham is asked to
sacrifice his son, but it then is stopped by the
Angel of the Lord. By both Jews and Christians, this
is clearly interpreted as yahweh our trinitarian God not wanting
human sacrifice, and the Angel of the Lord Christ stopping
that sacrifice before it occurs, demonstrating that our God does
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not demand the blood human blood as sacrifice. Well, what
is the sacrifice? It's us trying to follow Christ. It's
about obedience. The sacrifice that we are trying to attempt
to offer to God is a sacrifice of our own will,
our fallen will, in order to align with Christ and
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that selvific union between divinity and humanity. But Moloch's fire,
Moloch's fire is about personal benefit. And this is why.
And it's really hard to put your mind in a state.
I mean, I asked that just for the topic. I mean,
I think it's a good thought process. A good thought
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experiment is to imagine you grew up in one of
these like a Phoenician tribe in the Levant, and people
were doing this regularly, and again, why would they sacrifice
their child, maybe so that they could get more money,
maybe so that their business could take off or whatever
trade they're participating in. And the idea was, you have
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to sacrifice something really really valuable to you to get
something valuable in exchange. Now that idea is also true
with our trinitarian relation, or our relationship with the Trinity itself.
What are we sacrificing the thing that's most intimate to us,
our own will and desires. But we're not sacrificing animals,
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We're not sacrificing people. And of course, as I talk,
I'm going to get into the binding of eye and
the sacrifice of Christ. That this is really indicative that
we as Christians no longer participate or support any not
that we ever did, but we do not support this
idea of human sacrifice in any way. Our God asked,
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as I said, of a different sacrifice. And when you
read Genesis twenty two, and I went back and was
looking at a lot of the biblical references for today's topic,
what do we see? We see the Angel of the
Lord preventing Abraham from sacrificing Isaac. But again, and I
saw these articles of these new agers and people saying, well,
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this is the same thing as Moloch and Baale. No
it's not. Because if you are coming from a Christian
perspective where you understand that the Holy Trinity and that
Jesus Christ is the Angel of the Lord. The Logos
is the angel of the Lord. He is the expression
of the Father. He is preventing this action to occur.
And of course the Trinity's wills are united. They're one
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in essence, three in person, and so God the asking
Abraham to sacrifice Isaac was never about actually sacrificing his son.
It was about devotion and obedience, which is exactly what
I'm getting back to, is what our sacrifice is. It's
devotion and obedience to God. That's what we're sacrificing. And
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rereading then Genesis twenty two, I thought there's some interesting
correlations between Isaac and Christ being a sort of true Isaac.
Now this isn't don't take this too extreme, I don't
want to, but it is a sort of typology there
that Christ is the true Isaac. And I found out
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I was just going through it, and there's a few
different similarities. One, they're both sons, right, Christ is the
son of God, He's the son of Man. These epithets
are used over and over throughout the New Testament to
identify who he is as the Messiah awaited by the Jews,
awaited by the world. Both of them carry their wood
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to their potential sacrifice. If you reread Genesis twenty two,
it's Isaac. He's carrying a bundle of wood up to
the mount Mount Mariah for this potential sacrifice. Obviously, Christ,
in the narrative of his persecution and his resurrection and
the crucifixion, he has to carry his cross after being
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beat after being whipped up to the mountain, up to Golgatha.
So there's an interesting correlation there. Both are sons, one
of Man, one of Mary, but also the son of God,
both carrying the wood up to the place in which
they are to be sacrificed. In both ascending a mountain.
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In Isaac's case it's Mount Mariah, in christ case It'sunt Golgatha.
But Christ fulfills the binding offering true sacrifice, a willful sacrifice.
Christ is not an unwillful participant. He is sacrificing himself.
Interestingly enough, it's the Jews that are killing him. It's
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the Jews that are persecuting him. It's the Jews and
the Israelites throughout Again, go read the Old Testament. I
got a bunch of Bible verses today who keep falling
back into these ancient habits of sacrificing their children to
Moloch and bail Why for personal benefit, to get something
in exchange, Because this magic is real, this occultic magic
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is real. Now you lose something in exchange, you're gonna
lose your soul doing stuff like this. But anybody who's
drove down some of the conspiracy rabbit holes regarding some
of the elite or some of the famous people of
Hollywood know that there's very strange instances of people dying
close to the prominent actors, musicians, stuff like this, And
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it's been theorized. I'm not here to say for certain,
but it's been theorized these were sort of sacrificial offerings. Well,
what are they offering for?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
See, it's an exchange of somebody close to you, a human,
a life, a soul, for worldly prosperity and in any
way that you can imagine. But Christ is God himself.
He's not man's child, He's God's child. And so he's
ending this practice, and in exchange, he's offering universal salvation
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to all people. It's not just for the Jews, it's
not just for gentiles. There is no Jew in Gentile
in Christ. And so Christ really is the fulfillment in
the endpoint of all these practices. And again why somebody
may ask, well, why would Y'ahwegh even ask Abraham to sacrifice?
Because it was so prominent. I mean, that's one of
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the things. Diving into this research and looking at these
ancient tribes around the Levant, almost all of them had
some type of human sacrifice. Now we're going to be
focusing on Bail and Moloch, and those are the two
figures that are most mentioned in the Bible. But this
is ancient. I mean, you can find human sacrifice in
ancient Egypt, in Japan and the Aztecs. This is not
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unique to the Levant or the historical context I'm going
to be speaking of. This is a universal human phenomenon.
And now you would ask why would this be universal,
because there is something in exchange. There is real magic
happening here. And I think that's the temptation of the
Israelites is that they see these warring tribes, these enemy
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tribes around them, doing these atrocious rituals and abominations to
our God, and yet they're getting worldly benefits from them,
and they think, man, we need to get worldly benefits.
But that again is the sacrifice that we are offering
to our God, is that we are choosing to follow
him and not choose worldly benefits in any way. So
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there's a few things I want to say then about uh,
Moloch and Bail and and how this sort of relates
to really their worship and veneration today. Now it's not
as explicit, it's often symbolic. But let me just lay
out some of the symbolism between Moloch and Bail and
then we can look at how these things are actually
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presenting themselves in the contemporary period. For Moloch, he is
most characterized regarding the sacrificing of children. And and Bail
We're gonna get it, that comes with sexual and morality, uh,
you know, public orgies, polyamory, h ritual prostitution, and so
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it's a little bit. Moloch though specifically is about the
sacrificing of children and really the sacrificing of innocence and
purity and so obviously abortion and in how prevalent this
is in the Western world, and why this is one
of the greatest sins of America despite all the degeneracy
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we export to the world through Hollywood and our media
and the Empire of lies, that much of the American
narrative is built upon. But abortion and in fantaside, explicitly
is a form of modern sacrifice to Moloch and Saint
Basil the Great I found a quote where he explicitly
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condemns abortion as murder in letter one eighty eight, and
modern Orthodox Synods has reaffirmed this, teaching that abortion is
a ritualistic murder. Now I have an article by both
two groups, the Church of Satan claiming that abortion is
a sacrament and a progressive Jewish organization and a female
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rabbi who claimed that the overturning of Roe v. Wade
was actually a condemnation against their religious freedom. So we're
gonna again. I'll show you those articles here in a
few But even from this van point of abortion still
being a sort of ritualistic sacrifice to Moloch, we have
groups that identify abortion as a sacrament of their inverted,
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demonic faith. And so another factor is euthanasia. Right, if
Moloch is the deity of death and sacrifice, well, look
what's going on in Canada, Look what's going on in
parts of Western Europe where people are deliberately ending their life.
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And these are people that are the weak, the elderly
and the disabled, who we as Christians are called to
take care of. That's part of our religious duty is
to take care of these people. And what are we
seeing in the secular world. What are we seeing in
the modern progressive world that's supposed to be some type
of utopia moving us towards collective unification. We're seeing a
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mirroring of Moloch's destruction of the vulnerable. We're seeing entire
nation states support the killing of its own people. This
is demonic. There's no way you can interpret this other
than this is inspired by demons for people to kill themselves, which, again,
suicide itself is a major, major no no if you're
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a Christian. And so instead of seeing life as a
gift from God, which we as Christians do, modern societies
offers it up to an idol of comfort, efficiency and
economic logic. Right, Oh, you have down syndrome, Well you
may be a little bit more on the government tit.
You can go ahead and kill yourself. Oh, mass immigrants,
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come on in, come on in, you'll go on welfare. Why, well,
that contributes to the death of the nation. You import
a bunch of people from a different religion, different geography,
different language, you're not going to keep and maintain the
same nation state. So even it's okay for them to
pay for the mass immigrants because they destroy the nation state.
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But you know the Canadian boy who's born there, who
you know, his grandparents are elderly and he has down syndrome. Yeah,
just go ahead and kill yourself. Yeah. And so even abortion,
why are so many women getting abortion? Well, it all
comes back to these sort of creaturely comforts. Oh well,
I don't know if I'm ready yet. I don't really
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have money right now, or you know, I'm still in
my party phase. I'm still I want to travel and
do all. Okay, So what is this? This is Moloch worship.
And one of the things about Moloch is that you
don't have to believe in him. He just demands the sacrifice.
He just demands the actual behavior. You just have to
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enact it out. And so you know, it's not like
the modern feminist who's getting the abortion is like very
conscious of her devotion to an ancient cult of Moloch.
And again, Moloch is just a termer using when referring
to the modern period. It's a symbol of this demonic
express causing humans to perform these acts. But we're seeing
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the same thing where the Israelites saw man, maybe we could,
maybe we could be a little bit more prosperous if
we sacrifice a few of our children over there. Well,
the same thing is for the modern leftist woman or
whatever woman that commits abortion, because what why are you
doing it? Worldly comfort? Worldly comfort, that's not I mean,
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that's not the sacrifice we as Christians are called. But
that's exactly the sacrifice of these ancient colts. And so
another one is the exploitation of children. I would argue
that when we start to look at human trafficking, child pornography,
sexual grooming, the mutilation of children under the auspices of
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well they're actually a girl, or there actually want to
be a boy, this is a ritual sacrifice to Moloch.
And you're saying, how could that be the case, Well,
just like the ancient fits, children are consumed by fires,
but today it's not bronze idols with open fires. It's
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the psychological, sexual, and cultural destruction of children. The psychological, sexual,
and cultural destruction of children. That's what I'm saying, This
exploitation of children, this is another instance of Moloch worship.
President in our contemporary world. And again, Moloch doesn't care
if you believe in him. He doesn't ask you to
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recite a creed. He just asked you to sacrifice the
thing and so for. And there's been studies that show
that these these parents that are okay with their kids
getting you know, sexually mutilated in the transgender process, well,
one of the driving forces are their social circles. So
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these parents put their children through this ritualistic sacrifice in
many ways, why so that they're perceived as more moral
when again they're doing something immoral. You see the perfect
inversion there they do it, why so that people view
them as as, oh, that's we need more parents like that.
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You give your your child, you know say, and you're
you're allowing them to really express their true identity. No
they're not, No, they're not. And so these parents are
driven by the same worldly desires that Moloch has always
asked the people to offer their sacrifice towards. Now regarding bail,
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and when we get when we open up the document,
we'll see that Bail's very interesting because there's a few
Bail is a child referred to lord and bail has
been used in a few different ways to reference various gods,
but bail Haman is the one specifically we're going to
be diving into which is specifically associated with child sacrifice.
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And when we look at the Phoenicians and them, it
will dive into all this stuff. If you're not familiar
with the Phoenicians. There's lots of interesting things spirits and
theories about the Phoenicians, but it's kind of a rabbit hole.
We're not going to go into it today, but we
will talk a little bit about the historical context of
the Phoenicians. But when they set up their empire and
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Carthage and made that the central outpost of the of
you know, the Phoenician maritime empire again, they basically had
all these sort of really states. Because it was from
me from what I was looking at, it's really the
ways in which they made money whoever was the wealthiest.
It was kind of like an aristocratic almost a capitalistic system,
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is like they kind of function as independent city states
based on the money and revenue that each one brought in.
But Carthage was the headquarters. Carthage is where we found
in the tofits there thousands of ritualistic children sacrifice to
bail Haman and his consort Tannate, and we're going to
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dive into that. So though specifically is the lord of
lust and fertility, he's a fertility god. Now again, Moloch
offers you an exchange. What do you want? You offer
your child, you get the thing in exchange for it.
Bail worship in antiquity often involved, as I said, ritual
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prostitution and fertility rights, which include orgiastic activity, polyamory, again
very weird. Sometimes I didn't find evidence specifically in the
in the bail stuff, but some of these fertility cults
also engage in in zoophilia, women engaging in sex and
men engaging in sex with animals. Uh So, when you
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start getting these ancient cults, these fertility cults, very weird
sexual rituals emerge. But in modern culture, the cult of
bail manifest in pornography, as I said, the sexualization of children,
and the cult of aros. Divorced from marriage and sanctity. Right,
sex is not something bad at least from our orthodox Christians.
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Sex just needs to be in its right context, which
is inside of a marriage sanctioned by the church between
two loving individuals adults. And so when we look at
our contemporary society and in the detrimental effects of pornography.
I would, at least in my monologue here, I'm associating
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this back to a sort of contemporary form of bail worship.
And one of the things that I wasn't explicitly aware
of is that when Christians talked about Beelzebub, You guys
have heard this. Anybody who's dove into gnosticism knows that
Gnostics believe that the God of the Old test And
is Beelzebub, the devil, you know, the arkhan yadoboee. I
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didn't realize that some of the church fathers use the
term beelz Abub because it meant the lord of flies,
and this was actually an ad hominem to say that
your god is shit. Essentially, your God is a pile
of dung, and that's what beelz Above actually meant, and
they used that to refer to the cults that still
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worship bail. I wasn't fully aware of that. I just assume,
I mean, I can get the symbolism of beelz Above
and Bail and Moloch, but I didn't realize that that
was actually a literal connection. And so beels Above the
Lord of Flies has to represent Christian saying that your
God is basically a pile of dung and it's the
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Lord of flies because all the flies are flying around
it and smelling its stink. I was like, wow, that's
actually pretty cool. I didn't fully realize that. Maybe I
should have, but that was one of the cool things
of the research and diving into it. But the church
fathers recognize that this pornography, this sexualization of our society.
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Well glory to God. That's excellent. Anyways, going back to
what I was saying, the pornography and the sexualization of
our society and keeping everybody in this intense state of
eros one, we know that it clouds the mind. Church
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fathers talk about how lust is one of the things
that clouds the mind, prevents you from thinking logically and
clearly and really literally towards goals. And so I would
I would say, based on my reading other church fathers,
is that they would say this is a sort of
return back to Bale's fertility colts of this rampant sexuality,
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this unhindered sexuality, in any attempt to rein it in
as being deemed like you're the demon, like hey, maybe
you shouldn't be polyamorous and have HIV and you know,
like you look like you're pretty unhealthy from all the
sexual active Oh oh you big it, you big it
while you're a homophobe, you a transphote and no, no,
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I just think that your soul might be a little
bit better if you stop doing that stuff. And so
the church fathers, I believe, would ask us that we
need to sanctify pleasure rather than participated in just rampant
hedonistic pleasure and that sex. Again, sex is not a
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bad thing, but it's within its right context. And so
sexual idolatry is running rampant in the Western world. I mean,
look at the Only Fans phenomenon. Look at these girls,
look at these women, and again it's sort of a
returned back to paganism, right you ask one of these
only Fans girls. I again, just my time on the
whatever podcast, a handful of them are like openly supportive
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of magic, openly interested in the occult. One of the
women on the whatever podcast I was on was Russian
and she was openly a witch. She was bragging about
being a witch. But I'm a white witch. It's like, no, again,
from a Christian, there is no difference between white, gray
and black witchcraft. It's all demonic, it's all magic, and
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you're losing your soul every time you participate in these
in these sacrifices. But that's exactly what these OnlyFans girls
are doing. That's what exactly what the porn stars and
they know it. I mean, when I said this to
the girls on the Whatever podcast, that they're losing a
piece of their soul every they didn't say anything back
there was two porn stars. In particular, like traditional porn
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stars that were there, they didn't really have anything to
say that. All they could say is, yeah, but I
have a lot of money and I can support my
family or I can support One of the women was
taking care of her mother who has an illness. Great,
I'm glad that you can help your mom. I mean,
there's nothing wrong with that. But you're making money by
literally selling your soul through sexual activity for men to
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masturbate to. I mean, all of it is dehumanizing. The
people in the video are dehumanizing the people watching, and
are dehumanizing themselves. That is reflective of this demonic spirit
that I'm tying back to the fertility cult of bail
and all the sexual and morality that they engaged in
and tied with this emphasis on pleasure. I think bail
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can also be associated with consumerism and materialism. That bail
was associated with wealth, agricultural abundance, and prosperity. I found
multiple instances of this in some of the research. And
yet today bail, I would argue, appears in the worship
of money Mammon. Another again, just another construct, another demonic
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force imbuing itself into space. Time, consumption, consumerism, and creaturely comforts.
So you see there's always an overlap between bail and Moloch.
But the consumerism isn't specifically about the sacrificing of children
in the bail's context, it's where people sacrifice faith, family,
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and morality in pursuit of mammon, in pursuit of bail,
in pursuit of worldly pleasure, and pursuit of sexual gratification.
And that's exactly what's happening with the sexual I mean,
we wouldn't have a red pill and manosphere if women
were not so hedonistic regarding their sexuality and essentially eroding
the sexual dynamics between men and women. And so now
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the men who want to actually have a family can't
find a woman that they can't have a family with.
This is the result of the demonic influence of bail.
This is a result of this sort of ancient worship
of wealth and abundance and prosperity. And that's exactly the
reasons when I push the prostitutes to say, or the
porn stars, I mean, is there really a difference like
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to justify what they're doing. It just came back to
the amount of money they make it's like, okay, so
it's the same thing. And Christ himself made this explicit
in Matthew six point twenty four. You cannot serve God
and serve Mammon. And so again, what is Christ calling
us to sacrifice the desires of this world to follow him?
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And with him you get everything that is of great worth,
of real value. And so I argue that what this
is doing association to our society sociologically, is this there's
like a political and ideological Moloch, right, And we see
this with Zionism in America, is that they're like ideologies
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that demand blood, including children, I mean the gods, and children,
including women, including innocent people. I mean, there's just videos
that were going viral this week and of little babies
being bombed by the Israelis. And I would argue, it
doesn't matter if it's communism, fascism, capitalism, whatever ism you
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want to have. When people devote themselves to an ism,
this is a sort of ideological idol. And this really
is a new representation of Moloch. And so you look
at the Christian Zionist here in America, Well, all those
Palestinians that have to die, that's okay, that's a sacrifice
I'm willing to make for what for the prosperity of Israel.
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That's a form of Moloch worship. The military industrial complet
you know, whether it be the Chinese, the Clintons, whoever
it may be. You know, all these people that have
these companies that are making money off perpetual war and
the killing of people. Why do they need that? That
is another contemporary form of Moloch worship. And they're subservient
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to this idle, this ideology, or for the military and
custrial complex, power and money, power and money. It's the
same thing. It's it's the present day expression of an
ancient ritualistic cult. And this is and then the other
one is the sacramentalizing of sin. I mean, that's really
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what these cults are doing. So you look at the
Church of Satan, as I mentioned, they claim abortion is
a sacrament. And I argue this is not accidental, this
is not tongue in cheek. The demonic always inverts the sacred,
and it parodies baptism, it parodies the Eucharist, at parodies sacrifice.
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I told you guys about the transgender Satanic priestess. Although
she referred to as a priest. So there was a
girl who identified as a boy. She went by the
name Johnny, and she was a priestess at a Satanic
church or again I forget, it wasn't the Church of Satan.
It was actually a theistic I forget which denomination it was,
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but she was the head priestess of it. And I've
told this before. I've shared this story before in previous streams,
that when she was giving a presentation on the Satanic
Panic and basically mocking the Satanic Panic that occurred in
France with Elifis Levy, the Satanic Panic that occurred in
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the seventies and eighties in America. Again mocking all this stuff.
Then at the end she goes to talk about people
asked her, well, what do you guys do in your
ritualistic practice. She says, oh, well, we do. We do
a sort of mocking version of the Catholic Mass, and
we performed or we actually have like wafers where we
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consume fecal matter, urine period blood. And the idea is
that if they can take that into themselves again, they're
defiling what the Eucharist is. They're defiling what the body
and blood of Christ is. And how that unites us
to God. And they claim that if we can consume this, well,
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there's nothing that we can't do. We have no limits.
We're more powerful than you are you it's very Nietzschean.
Your Christian morality limits you from ultimate power. That's literally
what she believed. And she talked about these rituals that
they did, and she bragged that like her Satanic again
church temple, it's again, it's not the Church of Satan.
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This was a theistic They actually did conjuration rituals. She
talked about this conjuring entities, communicating within at least according
to her, that this sort of mocking version of the Eucharist,
what they're doing is showing we're uniting to our own will.
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Which again, what did I say about Moloch? He wants
you to worship yourself because he doesn't demand belief and faith,
he doesn't demand a sort of creedle devotion. He just
demands you do the action. And so this inversion of
purity is always a sign of the demonic presence and
blood rights desecration, the desecration of innocence. That's why the
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whole nambulist stuff, the pride parades the transgender stuff on
children like this is explicitly demonic. This is actually corrupting children.
This is a destruction of innocence and purity, the sexualization
of kids, getting kids again more through social media. They're
exposed to this at such a young age. It's horrendous.
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And so what is doing is these normalization of pride parades,
drag performances for children, you know, drag Queen's Story Hour
at various community libraries across the country, often in very
red places. There was one here in Indiana that occurred,
and again people protested outside, but Indiana's a very red state.
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There's one that occurred in Tennessee. Tennessee is a very
red state. I think one happened in Arkansas. Arkansas is
a super red state. So again, this stuff is everywhere
but blasphemous art, the mocking of Christ. Right, we just
watched The Witch the Black Woman from I forget the
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movie that it's sort of a what was it? It's
with the singer you guys know what I'm talking about.
Somebody helped me out. I'm having a brain fart Ariana
Grande and you guys know what I'm talking about? Was
it Wicked? Is that the name of the movie. I
think it's Wicked. Well, the black woman who's like openly
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lgbt Yes, thank you, it is wicked, openly like LGBTQ.
She looks like she's dying. There's photos of her before
this movie Wicked where they are both, you know, being witches,
and then after or during and she looks like she's
I mean her like her skin sucked into her face.
She looks like she's dying. Well, she just did a
blasphemous mockery of Christ. She played Jesus Christ in a
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play recently. Yeah, slow boy. Wifeboard makes a great point.
Just because the people vote read doesn't mean the Republicans
don't follow the uniparty plans exactly. That's absolutely the case.
But that's again my point of the ideological worship of Moloch,
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that we look look at our nation, look at our politics, ideology,
Trump's morality. I just think Christian Zionism is obviously the
most explicit expression of this, because no Christian can support
the atrocious acts that Israel's committing against the Palestinians. But
if it's for again, this worldly cause again, then within
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this two hundred year heresy of dispensationalism from Darby forward.
I mean, this is the same thing people and our
politicians at the uniparty is the same. Right, Why do
we have a uniparty because people sacrificed, really sold their souls.
My wife just showed me a video today of Katy
Perry and like two or three different interviews talking about
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how she sold her soul, that when she went to Hollywood,
she was a gospel singer. She grew up in some
Protestant family where she claims both her father and her
mother were pastors. Again, I really question any Christian faith
that as female pastors. But she really only did gospel music,
like lived a pretty sheltered life growing up. When she
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got the Hollywood, they said, okay, you're gonna have to
do some new stuff. And in three different interviews at
least my wife showed me, she makes the statement that
she sold her soul. And so what is this, whether
it be politics and Zionism, you know, famous elite musicians,
Hollywood actors, it's the same ancient practice just represented in
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new ways. And so so how this relates to Baphomet.
I had a quick little thing. Again it's it's in
my document, but I put some notes together for the
monologue here that I wanted to share, and so the
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dnemonic reality behind these idols. So, as I said, I
would argue Molock really symbolizes child sacrifice and fire and
child sacrifice. Again, as I said, you can take that
fire and then see it as the psychological subversion of children,
the sexual subversion of children, the cultural elements and subversive
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ways of children. That's really the sort of Moloch and
the and bail really equals sexual immorality and perverse fertility rights. Well, Bapphamet,
who you guys know, we've talked about bapha Met. There's
a lot of questions regarding as origins. I've mentioned that
I believed it was an idol developed by the Knights
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Templars with their exposure to these sort of gnostic heresies
and ancient cults when they went back to the Holy
Land during the Crusades. I am aware that some people
claim that that is a a defamation against the Templars
and that they really weren't doing this stuff. I'm not sure.
Some of the research and books that I read at
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least what formed my opinion, claimed that they performed like
these very weird sexual rites of initiation and you had
a pledge allegiance to Baphomet. So wherever again that may
or may not. I've seen some you know, I know
some people disagree with that. That was kind of what
I came to the conclusion of. And eventually the Knights
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Templars during the Inquisition in the early thirteen hundreds, the
Catholic Church kills the leaders and they flee north up
to Scotland, where Robert the Bruce takes them in as
knights that can fight battles. Obviously, Robert the Bruce famous
for Scottish independence, but they eventually found the Scottish Rite Freemasonry,
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and that's where Rosalind Chapel in Scotland has a bunch
of weird esoteric symbolism in it. And interestingly enough, it
was built by one of the sons of the Templars
that fled to the court of Robert the Bruce. So
again interesting stuff there. PJ zero zero five K nine.
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I throws in five says, Satan doesn't care if you
don't worship him. He just doesn't want you to worship
the True God Lord, have mercy on us in your children.
Exactly right, exactly right, and that's what I mean, and
that's really what I'm saying. That these masks are, whether
we call it Bapphamet, bail Moloch, this is the devil.
This is demonic powers permeating space and time to become
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idols for people. And in every instance it always revolves
around self worship and the gratification of one's desires. So
that's one of the common threads. Anyways, However, you know,
some people claim that bapha Met really comes into existence
through a life as Levy. Again that French occultists, who
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really the depictions that we have of Baphomet really do
come from him. And so whatever the mystique is about
the Templars and bapha Met hard to truly put a
stamp on that. It's debated. I personally do think that
that was the case. But when we look at the
bappha Met figure with his fingers pointing up and down, horns, breasts,
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male genitalia, goat headed, human torso that this really is
present by life as Levy, but is later adopted by
cults as as I said, like Aleister Crowley in the
Church of Satan, it's it's a central emblem. But Bappha
Met is symbolic of death, lust, inversion, and blasphemy, and
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so bapha Met, however you want to interpret it, is
a direct mockery of Christian sacraments, the Christian God, and
our holy icons. And just as Moloch demanded literal sacrifice,
Baphamet symbolizes the ideological sacrifice of purity, chastity, and a
created divine order. And so Bapphamet then fuses and glorifies
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both the corruption of sexuality and family, and it destroys children.
And that's why the Church of Satan literally says abortion
is a sacrament. They literally talk about how the nuclear
family is something that needs to be destroyed, both again
tying Moloch and bale cults to bapha Met and its
destruction of the innocence and the corruption of God's creed.
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And from an Orthodox perspective, this is anti logos. This
is the spirit of anti Christ. The logos is Jesus Christ.
There is no abstract logos except for Jesus Christ, the
second person of the Holy Trinity, and all of what
I'm laying out, that's essentially an anti logos spirit that
permeates and dominates the spirit of today. So that's my
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I know exactly what you're talking about in regards to
some of the Saturnalian colts. And you know, one of
the potential connections is that bail Moloch sometimes associated with
the with the planet Saturn. Bail Haman was again when
we start talking about the Phoenician context, was often associated
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with Saturn as the sort of all consuming god of
time and fate. But also, you know, the star of
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rim Fan. And if you dive into the star of
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explicitly tied with Saturn worship. So we're not going to
be focusing on that topic today, but it does kind
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Martyr and him talking about the Jews at his time
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fan and then they stoned him to death and kill him.
So irony, irony there. But no, I have not dove
in specifically because I understand how the cube, you know,
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Mecca and the Cobba stone relates to Saturnalien worship, and
many people argue that it predates Islam and that this
was a way to sort of incorporate this ancient pagan
right into the Muslim faith. Fair enough, and yeah, there's
some interesting stuff with Saturn and Judaism, But you know,
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Academy where we really dive into and have conversations on
this type of stuff. So here this document will be
over there. Also for everybody who's already a website member,
you'll get access to it. But this is a little
bit of my breakdown diving into this topic. So I
begin with Molock, Who or what was Molock? And I
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make lip service diving into it again looking at basically
before the twentieth century, nobody questioned Moloch as an ancient
Phoenician Canaan specifically Canaanite, but Phoenician deity of child sacrifice.
So Moloch was a specific deity, likely of Ammonite, Phoenician
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and Canaanite origin, to whom child sacrifices were offered, and
that had basically never been questioned. The earliest point I
could see where it begins to move towards symbolic representation
is actually in the Talmud. Some of the rabbinic commentaries
talk about how Moloch is really a symbol for the
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defilement of Israel or the defilement of the ways of
God for the Jewish people. But this has really become
a recent academic view. I was kind of surprised. So
Moloch may have referred not to a deity according these academics,
but a type of sacrifice. And this gets into like
very specific etymological critiques. I'm not convinced to them, but
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I wanted to present that to you that that is
kind of a common theme, so specifically a burnt offering
of a child or substitute victim. And this obviously gets
tied into the use of the word Holocaust, and some
of the arguments were claiming that the term Holocaust and
Hebrew was actually a reference to the child's sacrifices that
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were occurring in the valley of Hinnam. All these sacrificial
rights to bail in Moloch. Okay, I think all of
them can be true. Like I think it's a real deity. Yes,
it can be referred to as a type of sacrifice.
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So you can, just like I did today, referring to
abortion and destruction of innocence amongst children and sexual sexualizing them.
That is a form of Moloch worship, Moloch veneration. That
is a sort of ritual interpretation. And then there's a
composite symbolic interpretation. It's just a symbol of detestable paganism.
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And this is what I found in some of the
Talmudic readings of Moloch and Christian thought. Yes, Moloch is
absolutely a symbol, as I said, for when you read
the Church follows, and I have a section here where
we'll look over a little bit of it. But when
you look at the Church Fathers, they are explicit to
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state that whether it's Bail or Moloch, it doesn't matter
the mask. It's the same forces, it's the same principalities
that we're fighting. And so but none of them said
it wasn't an actual deity. None of them said it
wasn't an actual ritual. But they did make the point
that you can understand it symbolically in a historical context,
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but that does not diminish the literality of it either.
Here's some of the biblical texts and I have a
larger section with the full versions at the bottom of
this document. Leviticus eight twenty one, you shall not give
any of your children to offer them to Moloch, and
so profane the name of your God. Leviticus twenty two
through five calls for death of anyone who offer children
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to Moloch. I have that full verse at the bottom
of the document. I'll show you King Josiah destroys Tofith
to prevent future sacrifices to Moloch. Second Kings Jeremiah condem's
burning of sons and daughters in the valley of Hinam.
And I have a video. We're actually gonna look at
the valley of Hanam today what it looks like. Ezekiel
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sixteen links child sacrifice to idolatry and pollution again, and
I'll have more biblical verses for that. Tofith is just
the word meaning fireplace and was a cultic installation, usually
outside a city. One of the sad things that I
did find is that according to some of the Rabbinic tradition,
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they say that the drums were beaten during sacri visis
specifically for the purpose to drown out the cries of
the children. And you just imagine that scenario. Imagine you're
sitting in the ancient period. You're surrounded by people dressed
in very weird garments. You see a massive bullheaded gold
figure with an open fire and it's hand stretched out,
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and people are putting children on top of those gold
metal hands in front of the flame. Imagine how hot
that is. And the children are screaming and they're just
beating drums so loud that you can't hear the children scream.
It's like wow, that's like right out of a horror film.
And so the offering what I found, was usually burned
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a live child, often from the parents of the child,
so very often, majority of the time it appeared was
actually their own child, usually the firstborn, which was typically
seen as the most important, at least especially the firstborn son.
Some were slain and then burned, I found evidence of that,
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and some were substituted with an animal or a poor child.
That was one of the things that so some families
that were more wealthy just thought, you know, I don't
want to sacrifice my son. Let us just buy the
poor slave boy and we'll go sacrifice him. It's like
oh wow, and that was all done obviously in the
name of religious piety, preachtlely in social hierarchies, the Carthaginian.
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We're gonna get more into the Carthaginian stuff here in
a second, so we'll skip that Moloch as the king
of death. Moloch appears as a counter Yahweh figure, ruling
over death, demanding burnt sacrifice and feeding on the most
innocent and theological terms, that symbolizes distorted form of kingship,
a god who consumes rather than protects. He receives the
first born in contrast to Yahweh who redeems the first born.
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And then Moloch is thus portrayed as an anti convince,
convent conventional and anti human and desacralzing. So anti covenantal,
that's what I'm trying to say, man my tongue, anti covenantal,
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anti human and desacrilzing. Forgive me. So here are some
of the interpretations early church father I have a whole
section on early church fathers, so don't worry about that.
That was just stuff to supplement bail identity and role.
So what about bail Hebrew means lord and master. It
was a title applied to different local manifestations, but as
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I'm going to show you bail Haman specifically in Carthage,
tons of ritualistic evidence of child sacrifice. Yeah, discrontal talk
I English could, Yeah, that's basically me speaking today. Apologize
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Roland religion. Bail was seen as the favor of rain, crops, fertility,
and military success. His mythic death and resurrection each year
symbolized agricultural cycles, and worship was tied to seasonal renew
and city prosperity. But as I said, some people sacrifice
for personal prosperity. That kind of overlapped temples to bail
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have been discovered in Ugart, Megado, Hazar, and Tyrie. They
show alters of burnt offerings again, animal sacrifices, fertility rights,
ritualistic sex, sacred prostitution, symbolized union of bail with a
start day, or once you get into the Phoenician and
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the Carthaginian civilization, it's with his consort Tannate, who we
also have, and I'm going to show you evidence of
child sacrifice devoted to his consort Tannate. So it wasn't
just bail, but when we get into the Phoenician Carthaginian context,
it's specifically bail Haman, so Elijah's confrontation with Baiale's profits
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on Mount Carmel one Kings eighteen highlights the scale four
hundred and fifty profits of bail. Israel repeatedly played the
harlot with bail, a phrase implying cultic prostitution and apostasy,
and of course the Jezebel spirit. Right, So King Ahab
and Jezebel Jessepel gets her weak husband, her beta male husband,
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to get to revert back or at least convert worship
to the sacrificing of children to bail again. And so
what do we see Jezebel's spirit. Spirit represents a sort
of pretty woman, that is, you know, interested in power
and using her sexuality as leverage. That Jezebel's spirit is
running rampant in our culture today. And I don't think
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it'd be fallacious to connect the Jezebel spirit in the
bail worship to contemporary relationship with only fans and all
the sexual immorality. I already spoke about archaeological evidence at
Carthage inscriptions and cremated remains from the Tofit indicated child
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sacrifice to bail. Hamman and TANet Stele often read to
our Lord bail Haman for the vow which the worshiper
made debate. Some scholars say it was a cemetery for
infants who died naturally, but the consistency of inscriptions, ritual contexts,
and Greek Roman account strongly suggests intentional sacrifice. Isn't it
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so interesting how modern scholars are always trying to like
woo woo away stuff like like shoe it away. Oh no,
this was actually a cemetery for infants. Really, why is
there as thousands of infants, some and pots, some not
in pots, their bones are burnt and charred. What this
is a cemetary? Really? Because all the historical evidence of
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that period says that they're sacrificing children over there. It's
just amazing modern academia. Again, I just got my im
quote unquote an academic in fact, I just actually this
is a totally side note not related to the topic.
But I did finalize the book cover for my book
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that I'm hoping to get out next month. So I'm
just finalizing some of the formatting. Got to put in
a subject index, topic index, But really excited out I'll
show you if you guys are interested I'll show you
what the book cover looks like. I'm really excited. Went
through probably eight nine different versions and finally ended up
with something that looked totally different than everything else we
were talking about. But if you guys are interested, i'll
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show you that. AnyWho, My point was modern academ It's
funny how it's always trying to sanitize and do away
with any sort of sensational, anything that they deem a sensational,
when all the historical evidence of the period says, yeah,
these people were sacrificing their children over here. It was despicable.
You know, we're Romans, you know, we have our own problems.
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But look at what the car the Ginians are doing.
And then modern scholars like, yeah, I think it was
just a cemetery and it's all symbolic. No, dude, what
are you talking about. So here's like some of the
literary of Phoenician and Punic sources equate Bilhaman with Cronos Saturn.
So there you go, a person who mentioned Saturn worship,
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known in the Greco Roman tradition for devouring children. Diodoros
writes there was in their city a bronze image of
Chronos extending its hands palms up, sloping towards the ground,
so that each of the children replaced thereupon rolled down
and fell into a sort of gaping pit filled with fire.
Biblioteca Historica twenty point four. So interesting stuff. And so anyways,
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let's get through this document. We got so much more
to get through today, and I got a whole document
that I want to read to you, major deity. So
when it comes to the religious practice of the Phoenicians,
who were the Phoenicians. The Phoenicians are important group to
be aware of, especially when we're talking about Carthage and
some of the human sacrifice. So who were they? The
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Phoenicians were an ancient Semitic speaking people who emerged around
fifteen hundred BC in the Levant coast and what is
now modern day Lebanon, parts of Syria northern Israel. Their
major city states included Tyree, Siddon, Biblos and later at
our Ward and Betreus Beirut. And in Lebanon they have
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the city that is I'm having another brain fart, guys,
there is a city in Lebanon that its historical name
is actually tied with bail worship. Let me see if
I have that real quick. Here it is. Yeah, Ballback
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is actually referred to so ball Back, the city of
ball Back, which has some like ancient megaliths and stuff.
Anybody's interested in alternative history, you may be aware of it.
From that. Ballback is named ball Back because of ball worship.
So again, tied with these Phoenician cults and Lebanon, that's
where their origins are. They were maritime traders, shipbuilders, and colonizers,
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known for their navigation skills extensive trade networks across the Mediterranean.
The term Phoenician comes from the Greek foynique, as possibly
related to the word for purple. Again, they were notorious
for the color purple. And I've even heard these again.
This is where you get these strange New age people.
They're like, oh, you're you're Orthodox. You know, the Byzantine
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Empire in though the royal color purple. That's tied with
the Phoenicians. Dude, you're god yahwehs the same as bail
bro It's like what you what you've got that because
of the color purple. It's like a word concept fallacy.
It's like, well, color purple means bail worship. No, No,
it doesn't. Yes, the Phoenicians worshiped bail and sacrificed their children.
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And yes they were identified by the unique color purple,
which was not common back then, but that has nothing
to do with the Byzantine Empire. How dumb do you
have to be? Politically? Phnicia was never unified as a kingdom,
but consists of independent city states, often ruled by merchant aristocracies.
That's what I was trying to say. Earlier Venetian expansion.
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How the founding of Carthage overpopulation, limited arable land, and
pressure from neighboring empires, the Egyptians, the Hittites, the Assyrians,
which led Phoenicians to establishing trade colonies throughout the Mediterranean.
These colonies served as trading outposts and resource extraction centers,
often coexisting with or displacing native populations. The founding of
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Carthage it was founded by the setters of Tyree around
eight fourteen, according to tradition recorded by Timaeus of Turomenium
and later Virgil. The most famous founding legend involves Queen Diddo,
a princess of Tyree, who fled from her murderous brother
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Pygmalion and established the city in North Africa. Strategic importance.
Carthage was located on a natural harbor near modern day
Tunis in Tunisia, giving it a commanding position over Mediterranean
trade routes North African hinterlands, and they had two harbors,
one for the military and one for merchants and traders. Again,
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this gets back to their gods, Bail a storm and
fertility god localized in various forms, and then TANet a
prominent goddess, and Carthu's associated with fertility, motherhood and cosmic protection.
Her symbol was a trapezoid with outstretched arms and a
solar disc. Bail haman chief male god, and Carthage associated
with agricultural agriculture, time and sacrifice frequent link with child sacrifice. Okay,
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so that's a little bit about again. If you guys
want more of these details, you can get the document.
Who are the Canaanites That should be bolded. So the
Canaanites were a group of ancient Northwest Semitic peoples who
lived in the levant modern day Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Western Syria,
parts of Jordan during the Bronze Age and Iron Age.
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They are named in both Egyptian records and Bible as
inhabitants of the land of Canaan. Egyptian texts from the
fifteenth to twelfth century referred to Canaan as a geographic designation,
and the Canaanites were not one unified empire, by a
network of city states, just like the Phoenicians, with each
with their own king, often competing or aligning with Egypt,
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Mesopotamia or the Hittites. So there are Semitic people, similar
major gods, similar deities, a different group of people, but
same polyistic faith. Again, temples found in the usual places. Okay,
let's get to what the church Fathers have to say.
So the Church Fathers on Moloch bailing human sacrifice is
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what I could find online, and his dialogue with Tripho,
Saint Justin the Martyr condemned the Canaanite sacrifices to demons,
specifically mentioning Moloch, and he says, they sacrifice their children
to demons, They offer their sons and daughters to Moloch.
These are not gods but wicked demons delighting in blood.
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And so he interprets Moloch not as a god but
a demonic power exploiting well, yes, as a god, but
a demonic power again that symbolism. Stiornaeus against Heresies, explicitly
ties bail and Moloch worship to demonic deception. The Canaanites
and the Phoenicians, under the guidance of demons, practice unholy rites,
burning their children to Moloch and corrupting themselves with fornications
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to bail. Teretolian, though technically writing before the Nicene Orthodox
he was codified. Tertolian was widely read by the Fire,
and in one of his apologies he says, in Africa,
the people of Carthage publicly offered infants to Saturn. So
you see now the connection with Beilhaman and Kronos Saturn.
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Until the proconsul Tiberius put to death the priest of
that wicked worship, hung them upon the very trees of
their temple, and overthrew their precincts. Saint Jerome, in his
commentary on Jeremiah, he explained the tofieth sacrifices, the idol
called Moloch stood with outstretched hands made of brass, hollow
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within heated with fire into it. The priest through the
children alive, and their cries were smothered by the beating
of drums. Saint John Chrysostom and his homilies on Matthew
I found he says, see how the devil from the
beginning has imitated God to Abraham. He bids the sacrifice
of Isaac, but God forbade it, showing himself a lover
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of mankind. But the devil persuaded the nations to slay
their children to Moloch and make them think such cruelty
as divine and so patrician consensus. This is demonic idols again,
as we talked about. So what the takeaways you guys get?
And then here's some of the Bible verses that I
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wanted to show you guys. So Moloch in the Bible,
the full verses. I just want to read the full
verses to you for some biblical basis before we start
diving into all the rest of the content. You shall
not give Levidgus eighteen twenty one. You shall not give
your children to offer them to Moloch and so profane
the name of God. I am the Lord Levidgos twenty
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two through five. This was the one I just made
reference to. I didn't have the whole thing up there earlier.
Say to the people of Israel, any one of the
people of Israel, or the strangers who soldiern in Israel,
who gives them any of his children to Moloch's, I'll
surely be put to death. I myself will set my
face against that man and will cut him off from
among his people, because he has given one of his
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children to Moloch, to make my sanctuary unclean and to
profane my holy name Tewod Kings twenty three ten. And
he King Josiah defiled tofith with which is in the
valley of the Son of Hanam, that no one might
burn his son or daughter as an offering to Moloch.
Jeremiah thirty two thirty five. They built the high places
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of bail in the valley of the Son of Hanam
to offer up their sons and daughters to Moloch, though
I did not commend, though I did not command them,
nor did I enter into my mind that they should
do this abomination to cause Judah to sin Acts seven
forty three. This is uh Saint Stephen again. Right after
he says this, he's stoned by the Jews, but he's
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telling them, look, you took up the tent of Moloch
in the star of your god rim Fan the images
that you made to worship, and I will send you
into exile beyond Babylon. Now there's you know, there's some
interesting connections one could draw from diving into the Star
of rim Fan and the Star of David. I'll let
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you again. I actually covered that in the Zionism The
Israeli Zionism. Part two stream on Christian Zionism. Second part
was on Israeli Zionism. I dived into a little bit
on the Star of rim Fan. If you guys are interested,
bail in the Bible numbers twenty five to one through three.
While Israel lived in Shitham, the people began to whore
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with the daughters of Moab. These invited the people to
the sacrifices of their gods, and the people ate and
bowed down to their gods. So Israel yoked himself to
bail of poor, and the anger of the Lord was
kindled against Israel Judges two eleven through thirteen. And the
people of Israel did what was evil in the side
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of the Lord and served the bales. And they abandoned
the Lord and God of their fathers, who had brought
them out of the land of Egypt. They provoked the
Lord to anger they abandoned the Lord and served the
Bales and the Astoroth. First Kings sixteen thirty through thirty
three and Ahab, son of Amri, did evil in the
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side of the Lord more than all who were before him.
He took for his wife Jezebel, the daughter of Eth Bail,
king of the city of Sidonians, and went and served
Bail and worshiped him again weak Mail Beta Mail follows
the advice of his wife and commits you know idolatry
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I mean one of the first Commandment. And he erected
an altar to Bail in the house of Bail, which
he built in Samaria. And Ahab made an ashrah. Ahab
did more to provoke the Lord, the God of Israel,
to anger than all the kings of Israel who were
before him. Again, don't be a Beta male. Don't if
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your wife is telling you to worship Bail, just say no.
One Kings eighteen twenty one and twenty six through twenty
nine Elijah on Mount Carmel. And Elijah came nearer to
all the people and said, how long will you go
limping between two different opinions? If the Lord does God
follow him, But if Bail then follow him, and they
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prophets of Bail, took the bull that was given to them,
and they prepared it and called upon the name of
Bail from morning until noon, saying, oh, Bail, answer us,
there's no voice. No one answered, and they limped around
the altar that they had made. They cried aloud and
cut themselves after their custom, with swords lances, until blood
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gushes upon them. And of course this is when then
our God demonstrates who he is, and again in a
line of fire, a tower of fire from heaven and
consumes consumes the altar. Jeremiah seven, nine thirty one. Will
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you steal murder and commit adultery, swear falsely and make
offerings to Bail, and go after other gods that you
have not known. And they have built the high places
of Tofith to burn their sons and their daughters in
the fire, which I did not command, nor did it
come into my heart. Jeremiah ties together bail worship with
moral collapse and child sacrifice. Again, Bail is linked to
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Moloch practices Joseiah two thirteen sixteen through seventeen. And I
will punish her for the feast days of the bales,
when she burned offerings to them, and adorned herself with
her ring and jewelry, and went after her lovers and
forgot me, declares the Lord. And in that day, declares
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the Lord. You will call me my husband, and no
longer will call me my bail, for I will remove
the names of bails from her mouth, and they shall
be remembered by name no more. Hosea presents bail worship
as spiritual idolatry. God promises a covenant of restoration where
he will be known as husband, not as bail, rejecting
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the entire fertility cult paradigm. So again that's some of
the notes, a little bit of an overview. All that
stuff is going to be available at the Logos Academy
if you guys want to go through it in detail,
and if you are a website member, it will be
posted there, although again the website membership is ending, so
go over to logos Academy if you guys want to
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get more exclusive content. Okay, now let's get into some
of the other more interesting stuff I got for you
guys here. I knew I had that city pulled up
its ball back. So there's a few things that I
wanted to read to you guys regarding you know Tanate.
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There's there's down here you can find child sacrifice. This
is the consort of Bail Hamon of Carthage. The origins
of Tenant are to be found in the pantheon of
the Ugurate, especially in the Ugarritic goddess a not There
is significant, albeit disputed evidence, both archaeological and within ancient
written sources pointing toward child sacrifice. You see how again Wikipedia,
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anything that has a lens of modern scholarship then questions it.
Some are archaeologists theorized that infant sacrifices have occurred. Yeah,
because they literally found the bodies. Lawrence Stager, who directed
the excavate excavations of the Carthage to Fit in the
nineteen seventies, believes that infant sacrifices was practice there. Paulo
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Exella of the National Research Council in Rome summarized the textual, epigraphical,
and archaeological evidence for Carthaginian infant sacrifice. So this is
just to Bail's wife, and then if you start getting
into this is on the archaeological evidence, and I'm going
to read some of it, and then we actually have
a video that I'm going to be going over, So
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we're gonna get into a video next. But in Phoenician
sites throughout the Western Mediterranean except in the Iberian Peninsula
in Abiza, archaeology has revealed fields full of buried urns
containing the burnt remains of human infants and lambs covered
by carved stone monuments. Again, lambs white lamb. Christ is
the true lamb, right, he is the divine Lamb of
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sacric He's the ending of these practices. So what is
happening when God is telling Abraham to sacrifice Isaac or
Christ as the lamb to be sacrificed for the world,
it's representing an ending of this stuff. It's not supporting it. Again,
some of these conspiracy websites are just absolutely retarded. I
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think they're just driven by an anti Christianity animosity. But
that's what the profundity. You know, people ask, well, why
would God ask gave him to do that? Because it
was so common, It was so common, and so asking
him to do that wasn't uncommon according to all the
religious cults of that area in the levant. But then
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when the Angel of the Lord stops it, it's symbolizing, look,
we don't do this. We don't do human sacrifice. This
is why I'm different than all the other gods in
the Levant. This is why I'm different from Bail and Moloch.
I don't want you to do this. No more human sacrifice.
You're going to follow. You're going to sacrifice through obedience
and faith. And then Christ then is the last sacrifice,
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and again through obedience and faith in Christ. Now the
doorway to heaven has been open. These fields are conventionally
referred to as tofits by archaeologists after the location in
the Bible. When Carthaginian inscriptions refer to these locations, they
use the terms house, temple, or sanctuary or shrine. Not tofit.
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Archaeology reveal these two generations of Punic tofits, those founded
by Phoenician colonists between eight hundred and four hundred BCE
and those established under Carthaginian influence direct or indirect in
North Africa from fourteenth century to BC onward. No Carthaginian
literary texts survived that would explain or describe what rituals
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were performed at the tofit. Archaeological evidence shows that the
remains could consist of it could consist, like, could consist. Yeah,
this could consist of human remains, literally seeing a burnt
baby's bones and body. Here's another one, a skeleton of
a little girl. Yeah, could be human remains. I'm not sure.
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You know, nobody knows. Modern scholarships just kind of up
in arms about It could be often mixed with small
portions of other animals, including cow's pigs, fish, birds, and deer.
Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
The figural decoration on the stone monuments takes different forms
in different regions, and Carthage geometric patterns were preferred, and
Sardinia human figures are more common. Inscriptions are most common
in the Carthage tofet, where there are thousands of examples.
But yeah, there's no human sacrifice, guys, don't worry about it.
There are some from other tofits as well. Matthew McCarty
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sites as typical inscription to Lady Tanant face of Bail
and the lord of Bail Haman that which arsham son
of Buddhist chart son of Bodhishnumum Shumnu hum Un. Because
he the god heard his voice, he blessed him. Okay,
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so anyways, you get it. We're gonna be diving much
more into this, but I did want to show you.
One of the things that I wasn't that I thought
was so cool is about this Beelzebub stuff and how
he's Lord of flies. And when you start getting into
where was it, maybe it wasn't on this Wikipedia page.
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I don't think it was on this Wikipedia page. Anyways,
it talked about it being the lord of flies and yeah,
so calling Bail a pile of dung in his follower
in his followers vermin, although others argue that's a link
between power causing and curing pestilence and thus suitable. Okay,
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so anyways, interesting stuff. Okay, Now this is an interesting
video I found. We have a few here. This one's
on child sacrifice in ancient Carthage, so picking up where
we're just putting where we just ended with the Phoenicians.
This one is actually a Jewish woman in Israel, but
she has a video on Hannam Valley and child sacrifice
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of Bail worship, and so it's literally looking at the
Hannam Valley. So I figured it's good just to see
what it looks like. This was one of the only
videos I could find on the history of human sacrifices.
But it's one of these like Zoomer brain videos where
it's like constantly putting up graphics and making jokes about everything.
I hate that stuff. I don't have the Zoomer brain,
(01:38:16):
the TikTok brain. I prefer more academic stuff, even though
it's a little bit more boring. And then we're gonna
get into this is a good little section on Moloch,
and then this is the esoteric video, and we'll probably
watch sections of it. We won't watch the whole thing,
but we'll probably begin here about the temples, from temple
(01:38:39):
fires to boardrooms. And then here's some of the other
stuff that I wanted to get into. Why the Satanic
temple backs big abortion. Jewish community says scots decision to
overturn Roe v. Wade abortion rights violates religious freedoms. Interesting
is that tied with bail. This is a little interesting thing.
(01:38:59):
This is on our dot org and this is talking
about a interesting baile ceremony at Soldier Field. I'm not
going to play that could I had a stream get
taken down for playing it, so I'll share the link.
I may play just a quick thing so you can
see it or click through it. Moloch's statue of child
sacrifice on display at Colosseum, holy site for Christian martyrs,
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and then pagan statue erected on New York City Council courthouse.
I tried to look this up. You know, this pagan
is actually created by a Pakistani American. Anyways, I couldn't
find a direct relationship to a goddess, and he claims
that it's it's his own goddess that he created to
symbolize like progressiveness and peace. But anyways, another instance of
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pagan idol worship infiltrating our society. And this is when
we play this video, this article is going to be mentioned.
I was not aware of this article. It's called Meditations
on Moloch, and this is written by who what's the
guy's name. He's like a tech bro and he does
this whole Anyways, his name will be mentioned. I wasn't
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familiar with him, but I guess this is a him
reflecting on the system that big tech is building as
indicative of like ancient Moloch, and he builds on Alan
ginsburg famous poem on Molock. But before anybody reads Alan Ginzburg,
I need to give you guys a quick little fyi.
Alan's Ginsburg was one of these beaten of the Beat generation,
(01:40:36):
the beat Nicks who are like anti materialism, like progressivism, hedonism.
He was a homosexual. He was famous for like indecent
photos between him and his husband, put out a lot
of controversial stuff. And even though his his molock poem
doesn't necessarily contradict kind of what I've been presenting in
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this stream, don't think that Alan Ginsburg is a voice
of reason. And I just did just to show you guys,
just a quick little thing, just to see what AI
would pull up using the Brave Browser. Was Alan Ginsburg
a pedophile? Yeah, he was just f yi. So he
is a pedo and even a friend and feminist of him.
(01:41:19):
Writer Andrea Dwarkin, who knew him personally, described Ginsburg as
a pedo and stated that he was exceptionally aggressive about
his right to f children and his constant pursuit of
underage boys. And then she recounted an incident at a
bar Mitzvah, so you can guess Ginsburg and a photograph
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with her and he or she took a photograph with
a vicious little camera and made inappropriate remarks about the
young attendees. Including stating that twelve and thirteen year old
boys were old enough to f uh huh. And interesting enough,
Ensburg was a member of the North American Man Boy
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Love Association, so uh, he never was charged with anything.
But my point is, just if you want to dive
into his poem Moloch, which isn't necessarily bad, I kind
of agree with it. That's the guy who wrote it, okay,
So just fyi, And then this is the article that
I want to read to you guys. Israel has more
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Satanist occultists and Luciferian initiates per square foot than any
nation on earth, and I want to read this whole thing.
So we're going to get through the stuff, try to
get through it quickly. And then I want to read
this whole thing to you guys as it relates to
potentially as right here, a midburn ocultic follower dressed in
an ancient Canaanite worshiper of Moloch prepares for knightly worship.
(01:42:44):
So this is literally an image of contemporary Israel and
a guy at what looks to be like a burning
Man festival getting ready to perform a worship to Moloch,
probably a mock sacrifice, So we're going to read that
at the end. So first let's just give this this video.
It's the historian's craft. I thought it was pretty educational
(01:43:05):
and it talks about why Carthage. So this is gonna
give a little bit of a context on why Carthage,
child sacrifice, and then the evidence of child sacrifice, and
then we'll move on. So, looked like some people send.
Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
In some questions.
Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Let me address those real quick. All Brick throws in
five says, maybe they're allowing free speech again for data
collection by Palenteer. Yeah. Probably, I'm probably screwed. You're right,
that does make sense. Daniel Ritter throws in two bucks,
says outstanding stream DPH. Well, thank you very much, brother.
I'm glad that it's useful and you enjoy it. Pablo owens, Oh,
(01:43:50):
Pablo Winscobar throws into acknowledging the grift is the first step. Yeah,
I'm slowly coming to terms with the grift. So thank
you very much, Pablo for recognizing the struggle and the
cheap Chimp throws in five says, hit the goal, let's go,
let's get some subs. Where are we at with the goal?
(01:44:11):
So we're halfway there, guys, halfway there, we got a
lot more information, so help me reach reach the goal.
We greatly appreciate that, and I will say I will
yell goal for as long as I can if we
reach it. Alsto de Tulio Austin Detulio throws in twenty
says side note, ballback has some of the largest megalith
structures on the planet. Is very interesting. The feats we
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could accomplish back then, Yeah, that's what I was saying.
If anybody's dove into like the Graham Hancock alternative history stuff,
Ballback has ginormous, ginormous slates of stone, I mean just
huge rectangular slabs of stone that just been Again, I
have no idea. It's an ancient mystery, just like the
Pyramids on how the hell those stones got there and
(01:44:56):
lined in the way they were so interesting that they're
in ball Back. Interesting that Ballbeck is literally named after
the place where people worship ball Ballbacker was where the
Phoenicians were Phoenicians Carthage. All that stuff is connected. So yeah, great,
great point. Austin and No Face Killer throws in two says,
have you seen Esoterica's video on Moloch? No I have
(01:45:17):
not seen Esoterica's video on Moloch. I'll pull it up
while we're watching this one and check it out. I'm
not familiar with Esoterica's a lot of his stuff. It's
been mentioned a few times, and I've checked out a
few things, but no, I did not check his out.
I was looking mostly at documentaries and stuff. But I'll
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look it up while we're watching this, So thank you
very much. No face killer. All right, let's check this out.
Speaker 6 (01:45:47):
Giny and conquest of Sordinia in the five hundreds, and
the infrastructure required for a maritime trading empire based in
the Western Mediterranean as Carthage was, does not show up
archaeologically until about three point fifty pc. What we find
archaeologically instead is steady expansion and control in North Africa
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over the sixth century, but it's something that indicates strong
local hegemony rather than anything grander. So why would this
have occurred? The argument put forth by scholars who focus
on Carthage is that Carthaginian hadgemony over North Africa get
to start due to the rise of the Athenian Empire. Essentially,
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the volume of trade increased and Carthage was exporting more
and more agricultural product, which would have meant that a
greater amount of land was required for growing crops. It's
around this time that the first known colony, Kurkowan, was established,
and the conquest of Cape Bond and the surrounding areas
quickly followed. But we don't have material evidence for much
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else until really the middle of the fourth century at
the earliest in terms of something that could really be
understood as an empire. The overall point I'm trying to
raise here is that not only is the textual evidence
from a non Carthaginian point of view, but the material
evidence itself is pretty sparse and it does not match
up necessarily with what the documents say unless you either
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shift dates force the connection, or.
Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
You know, this video is kind of boring just because
I want to read that article. I think the article
is really Let's just skip forward. So here is the
Valley of Hinnam. Some of the stuff in that video
will be already covered. Most of it I already covered
in my document, so it was it was a decent resource.
But let's just move on. So here is the Hinam
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Valley and this this is a Jewish woman in Israel.
This is in Israeli talking about this.
Speaker 4 (01:47:50):
The valley of Hinnham or gay Hinnim, flanks the south
end of the old City of Jerusalem. Its namesake became
the precursor of Gehennam or Hell.
Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
And for our reason.
Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
It was here in this uncharacteristically grassy and idyllic valley
that the children of Judah committed an ubominable practice. During
the reign of King Manassah. The prophet Jeremiah records that
the people passed their children through the fire in sacrifice
to the Canaanite deity Moleich. God strictly forbade the children
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of Israel to worship pagan deities or to pass children
through the fire of the Tofet. As Abraham was about
to sacrifice Isaac, God said, lay not your hand upon
the lad The ancient Phoenicians practiced this cult in Carthage.
While excavating that Tofet, archaeologists found the bones of thousands
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of babies under the age of three months in jars.
Beneath these markers, child sacrifice appeased Molik to gain personal prosperity.
The people of Judah for God, the God of Israel,
adopting other pagan deities to their own depravity. They did
evil in the sight of the Lord. In the meantime,
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God sent the prophet Jeremiah to warn his people as
the potter with the clay. God yearned to mold them.
That they resisted, and they were spoiled in his hands.
Even then, though there was hope, they wouldn't repent, And
God said, they had filled this place with the blood
of the innocent, and have built the high places of
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bail to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings.
God commanded Jeremiah to throw a clay jar against the
walls of the same valley in the sight of the elders.
Thus says the Lord of Hosts, Just so shall I
break this people and the city, even as one breaks
the potter's vessel, which cannot again be repaired permanently broken,
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Judah was unmoldable, and shortly thereafter Jerusalem fell to the
Babylonian Empire and the people were deported. In New Testament times,
the hidden Valley was the waste dump of the city
for garbage and carcasses. In the spirit of this place.
After Judas betrayed Jesus for thirty pieces of silver, he
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went to hang himself here in the Hinham at the
Potter's Field, actually named as the Field of Blood. The
modern monastery of Akal Dama marks this location today. As
this modern world changes, the Biblical mandate still holds not
to sacrifice the innocence for the sake of personal welfare
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and perceived security.
Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
So that's a good little little overview of what the
site looks like nowadays. We're going to skip that. I'm
just going to give you you can see what it's like.
I just hate the jokiness of these types of videos,
but I can share the link if you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
Want to Pharaoh.
Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
Well one day it's like, I just hate these like
sarcastic videos, but there aren't a ton out there on
the history of human sacrifice. Again, you can already, you
can already get the tone by the voice.
Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
Hey, he just keels over from choking on a scab,
and you say to yourself, oh, thank god, your years
of servitude are over, only to find out that Pharaoh
handpicked you and your buddies to serve him in the afterlife.
To make matters worse, you look around to see all
of your bros celebrating like Raw himself.
Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Just showed up to the party.
Speaker 5 (01:51:34):
Are kidding me?
Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
You say to yourself as a sword as random to
your delicate tummy. Your body is then mummified and you're
entuned with Pharaoh and the boys for all eternity. This
is basically how retainer sacrifices you.
Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
Okay, you get it, But this video does talk about
human sacrifice in Egypt, Japan, Meso America, Ancient Greece, and
medieval India. So and in regards to a sacrifice. Uh.
In India, the what is the uh? Oh my gosh,
(01:52:09):
I am having such a bad day with my brain today.
There's Buddha, Buddhism, Hinduism and Jainism, the Jans the the
religion of ultimate peace. Uh. You know, they'll like sweep
the streets. When you see someone in India like sweeping
the streets so they don't step on a bug because
they believe that it's like bad karma. They're gonna die.
One of the ways in which they demonstrate their piety
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is they will stop eating food because they feel whether
you consume vegetables or animal protein, you're you're contributing to
the death of this world. And so they will starve
themselves to death and then it's customary when the husband,
let's say he does this and he's dead, when he's
getting ready to be cremated and he's on his funeral
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pire and they burn it, she will jump on it
and die with him in a flame while she is alive.
And this is this is like, oh my gosh, look
how pious these people are. Look how much they loved
each other. That is amazing. And it's like what what? Yeah, exactly?
(01:53:15):
The flashy meme VIDs aren't great, FRIGI I don't like it.
I don't like it. I get it. And look how
popular he's got seven hundred and seventy one thousand views
this chat. I don't even know this YouTube channel. But yeah, okay,
so here, this one's a little bit more serious. Actually,
let's just get into this one. I can share this
this link with you guys. This one has really good
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biblical references and stuff like that. Let's see it's from well,
it's five minutes long.
Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
The most terrifying god of the region is Moloch. Moloch,
whose name means ruler, is the bullheaded Canaanite god of
human sacrifice and more specifically, child sacrifice of all the
Canaanite god god spoken of in the Bible and old
contemporary literature, Moloch is perhaps the most brutal, bloody, and horrific.
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Sometimes he is described as a fallen angel, while other
times he is simply a false god whose influence has
irreparably poisoned the local population. His earliest depictions can be
traced back to the Book of Leviticus in the Bible,
with other mentions within Kings and Jeremiah here portrayed as
a false god worshiped by the blasphemous Canaanites. Within the book,
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it tells of the Israelites venturing from their lands and
visiting the other civilizations of the region. When they reached Canaan,
they were met with a horror they could hardly describe.
There existed a massive statue in the center of the city.
The visage was that of half man and half jackal.
His chest holds within a blazing fire where the people gathered. First,
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the people gave sacrifices of grain and animals, but the
god's hunger was not sated. Soon the people brought out
their children to feed the Idol plunged into the massive kiln.
The children's screams quickly abated as the smoke passed through
the great sculptures nostrils. The sacrifice was met with immense fanfare,
with music chanting, and the prayers of even the parents
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resounding out in a great cacophony of terror. There are
plenty of passages in the Old Testament that confuse many people,
commandments like not marking your skin and not marrying one
who is outside of your religion, alongside more extreme ones
like not sacrificing your children. Well, the deeper you dive
into the history of Israel at the time, it becomes
obvious that almost every neighbor God's chosen people had were
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home to some of the most horrific practices known to mankind.
In fact, the term holocaust originated from the Israelites witnessing
of human sacrifice all those years ago. Historically, the term
meant a sacrifice in which the offering was burned completely
on an altar. Many of the odd rules Israelites had
to follow weren't exactly because those practices were inherently evil,
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but simply that they were commonplace in the lands of
great evil. Is having a tattoo evil? Well, No, but
the people of Canaan really like tattoos, so better just
to steer clear of anything that they do it also.
Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
Which again is another great point about contemporary you know,
scarification of the human body, you know, and it's not
that if you I know so many of my friends,
the majority of my friends, I think I'm one of
the only ones that does not have a tattoo. I
have no tattoos. And then I actually wanted to get
one when I was in high school. My dad, he's
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a as I've told you before, he's a former helicopter
pilot in the army, and obviously it's very common to
get tattoos in the army. But he was insistent that
I do not get a tattoo. He would not let
me get a tattoo, and that kind of And then
by the time I was in my twenties, I thought, okay,
I'm not gonna get one. But you look at the
contemporary culture of scarification, it's very very pagan. It's very
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common in those in those ancient cults to mark yourself with,
you know, a label of the gods you worship, inscriptions, sigils,
stuff like this, things that usually had a religious connotation.
And I think this is very, very common today. Some
actually some of the best. I mean, Father Turbos covered
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in tattoos. So even if you are covered in tattoos,
come to the Orthodox Church, come home. You know, we don't,
we don't mind. But generally speaking, I think once you're Orthodox,
I don't think any priests would recommend you go get
tattoos or anything like that. But I think tattoos are
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also I think not having tattoos is kind of a
counter cultural signal nowadays, like dressing nice, being articulate, being
well informed, being Christian and devoted to your religious faith,
and not having weird piercings. Like just just having like
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a traditional aesthetic I think is almost counterculture nowadays. So yeah,
we have Mondiese covered in tattoos exactly, but that again,
so I've had people I've talked about how Orthodoxy doesn't,
you know, celebrate tattoos and be like, well, dude, I
have a tattoo. You don't want me to come to church.
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It's like, no, bro, absolutely come to true what are
you talking about. I'm not condemning anybody who has tattoos.
I'm just saying the culture of tattoos comes out of paganism,
and it's very, very common. I mean Nordic. The Nordic vikings,
you know, get tattoos and different inscriptions, and when they
would go to battle or they would win battles, they'd
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mark themselves so that your body was like a historical
artifact of the things you went through. No, I'm not
I'm not condemning anybody. You know, everybody's welcome in the
Orthodox Church. Don't care if you have tattoos or not.
We're just saying I have no tattoos. I cannot be
crinch as justin Innley. No tattoo I mean, and honestly,
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some tattoos I've seen, you know, when you go to
the gym, for example, if you got to I think
I'm one of the only guys and I go to
a Christian bodybuilding gym, me and my wife, I think
we're one of the few people that I take fitness
seriously that don't have tattoos. Almost everybody who has like
a real physique or really works out and takes you know,
care or builds their physique. Like almost every man in
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there has tattoos, often sleeves stuff like that. A lot
of guys are former military, which is very common in
the military, so anyway, I'm just trying to bring up
the Phoenician canaan I inscription of tattoos and how that
relates to contemporary culture.
Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
That makes sense where they wouldn't exactly want their people
getting married to a group that was completely comfortable with
burning their own children alive. Perhaps the most extreme example
of disavowal in the Bible comes from Leviticus, using the
word Moloch and human sacrifice interchangeably. Moreover, thou shalt say
to the children of Israel, whosoever he be of the
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dren of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel,
that giveth of his seed unto Molk, he shall surely
be put to death. The people of the land shall
stone him with stones. I also will set my face
against that man, and will cut him off from among
his people, because he hath given of his seed unto Molek,
to defile my sanctuary and to profane my holy name.
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And if the people of the land do at all
hide their eyes from that man when he giveth of
his seed unto Molek, and put him not to death,
then I will set my face against that man and
against his family, and I will cut him off and
all that go astray after him, to go astray after
Molek from among their people. Pretty cut and dry. If
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anyone even thinks.
Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
Yeah, I mean, God wasn't playing like he's saying, not
only will I shun and you know, destroy the man
who offers a seed to Moloch. If you, a follower
of me, witnesses that and don't kill that man, then
I'm going to turn my face against you.
Speaker 5 (02:01:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
Obviously, the brutality of the Old Testament of the time,
the period, not God. I mean, it's so annoying to
hear the God was so mean in the Old Testament,
this Martianism. It's also filled with forgiveness. It's also filled
with love. Read the Psalms, read Proverbs, read the Wisdom
Scripture like stop. God is dealing with people in a
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brutal historical context to try to differentiate who he is
and what his messages and what obedience looks like compared
to all the people around them.
Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
Thanks of sacrificing a child, they will be punished in
this life and the next. Despite how definite God's words
are in shunning Moloch, he plays a large part in
the fall of King Solomon. The wisest king in history.
Solomon was the famous son of King David, the one
who slew Goliath and built the First Temple period with
wisdom bestowed upon him by God himself. After many years
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of rule, Solomon began showing signs of a coming downfall.
He was enticed by the women of neighboring lands and
introduced polytheistic worship into his kingdom. God explicitly warned Solomon
not to mingle with the women of these blasphemous lands,
but the king would not listen. As Solomon grew old,
his wives turned his heart after other gods, and his
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heart was not fully devoted to the Lord, his God,
as the heart of David, his father had been after
his death.
Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
Again, so just like King Ahabin the Jezebel, we see
the same thing with Solomon simping for women, allowing them
to dictate your own religion, your own devotion, your own tradition,
and then weakening oneself, and all of a sudden allowing
polytheistic religion to occur in the Israelite kingdom. Same thing.
Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
The subsequent downfall of Solomon's kingdom was devastating, as no
other king was recognized by the people and never again
would the people of Israel see prosperity as they once did.
Outside of biblical texts, perhaps no other work does the
fearsome Moloch better than John Milton's Paradise Lost, in which
it states, first Moloch, horrid king besmeared with blood of
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human sacrifice, and parents tears though for the noise of
drums and timbrels loud. Their children cries unheard that passed
through fire to his grim idol him the Ammonite worship
in Rabah and her watchery plane in our God and
in Basin to the stream of utmost arnan nor content
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with such audacious neighborhood. The wisest heart of Solomon, he
led by fraud to build his temple right against the
temple of God. Sometimes I think we should count our
blessing that human sacrifice was so shunned in the past.
Things could have really turned out worse for us. Next
is Ashura, the resident goddess of fertility, Ashura, whose name
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means she who enriched.
Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
Okay, we're gonna skip the rest of that one all
right now. I want to get to This was the
video that I said was pretty probably the best one
relating Moloch to the contemporary world and really kind of
playing upon the symbolic theme that I've laid out for
today's stream. Now, this is by a sort of esoteric
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spiritual channel. It's called Esoteric Guardian, So this is not
coming from a Christian perspective. And watching this, one of
the things I kept thinking is, why is somebody who's
so into esoteric and occultism like so, I mean, because
he presents Moloch's the way a Christian would like. This
is a demonic spirit and it's manifesting itself in the
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systems of today's world. And so yeah, I absolutely agree
with all of that, but I kept thinking, yeah, but
you're an occultist, dude, why would you care? So anyways,
we're gonna this was one of the better videos on
the symbolism and stuff. So check this out.
Speaker 5 (02:04:56):
You'd think we left all that behind.
Speaker 7 (02:04:59):
That burning children in the arms of a God was
a horror buried in ancient ruins, not something that echoes
in the heartbeat of our modern world.
Speaker 5 (02:05:08):
But we didn't bury the ritual. We evolved it. Today.
Speaker 7 (02:05:13):
We no longer build statues to Moloch. We build systems
and systems too demand sacrifices modern society may not light
literal fires, but it burns people just the same.
Speaker 5 (02:05:26):
Look at how our world is structured.
Speaker 7 (02:05:28):
Wars that chew through generations, economies that collapse entire classes,
industries that knowingly destroy lives for profit, and somehow we
call it progress. But behind the sanitized language national interest
quarterly targets acceptable losses. There's an old rhythm playing the
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same rhythm that pounded in the temples of Moloch. We've
replaced bronze idols with boardroom tables, but the ritual logic
remains ritual. Sacrifice has become metaphorical, but not less real.
Today we sacrifice time, health, ethics, even childhood itself, not
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to gods but to institutions. A family working eighty hour
weeks to survive is a sacrifice. A child laboring in
a sweatshop to keep the supply chain moving is a sacrifice.
A young soldier sent to a senseless war, his innocence
burned away in the name of strategy, that too, is sacrifice.
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The fire is symbolic now, but the cost is still human.
These systems don't just allow for suffering, they require it.
They feed on it, because without sacrifice, there's no control. Mechanism,
no hierarchy, no greater good to justify the machinery. Like Moloch,
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these systems thrive only when people agree, consciously or not,
that pain can be product that someone has to suffer
to keep the world running. Nowhere is this clearer than
in public spectacle, from political inaugurations to corporate launchers, from
award shows to secretive elite gatherings.
Speaker 5 (02:07:14):
The choreography is eerily familiar.
Speaker 7 (02:07:18):
Symbols staging the crowd, the mask of unity. What is
the Super Bowl halftime show if not ritual theater? What
are Davas and Bilderberg if not altars of influence? The
language may be modern, but the subconscious is ancient, and
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sometimes the resemblance is less metaphorical than we'd like to believe.
Take the infamous gathering at Bohemian Grove, a giant stone
owl presiding over a mock sacrifice called the Cremation of care.
The attendees US presidents, CEOs, military strategists, the most.
Speaker 5 (02:08:00):
Powerful men on earth. They call it.
Speaker 7 (02:08:02):
Art, tradition, satire, but it's worth asking why invoke ancient
rites at all? Why echo the structure of blood rituals
unless there's something in the pattern that still speaks to power.
Maybe it's not accidental, maybe it's homage, or maybe at
that level of influence, they're not just re enacting history,
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they're continuing it.
Speaker 5 (02:08:27):
This is how ritual evolves. It doesn't die, It adapts.
Speaker 7 (02:08:32):
It moves from temple fires to contracts, from high priests
to fund managers, from gods who demand sacrifice, to systems
that simply expect it. And just like before, no one
questions it because it's hidden in plain sight, because the
drums are louder. Now, Moloch did not die in the
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flames of the ancient world. He migrated into language, into thought,
into the scaffolding of civilization itself. And in the twentieth
century it was not a priest or a ruler who
named him again, but a poet. Alan Ginsburg was not
a theologian. He wasn't a prophet, at least not in
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the traditional sense.
Speaker 2 (02:09:17):
He Again, remember who Alan's Ginsburg is, because I didn't
know of his. Again, his poem on Moloch, and then
this tech guy writing as sort of expose and unpacking
it and how he thinks it relates to these system
traps in the world, and you can see these. I'll
go over some of the traps that he's talking about
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once he presents it, but again, Alan's Ginsburg is no
prophet at all. The dude was a pedo, homosexual, massive degenerate.
So Jesse Fyi and somebody asked in the chat, what
does the al imagery? Where does the al imagery come from?
With Moloch? I tried to look into that, and one
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of the things that I found was it's not an
explicit one to one to Moloch, because Moloch typically at
Hornson was typically a bullhead. However, I think there's a
connection because even according to some of the people from
the Bohemian Grove talk about how the owl is a
symbol of wisdom because it can see in darkness, it's
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a nocturnal animal, this type of stuff, and so I
think symbolically it plays into Moloch worship because as the
video is talking about how it's hidden in plain sight,
that the owl is hidden in plain sight, has great camouflage,
and of course it's always it's up and active at night,
in and among the darkness and among the darkness that
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boy who perished. The last photo of him was with
a man in a bowl mast that looked like Moloch.
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he goes into this poem of about Moloch by Alan Ginsberg,
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remember who he is, beat Nick generation homosexual pedo again,
progressive Jewish guy who was very subversive in regards to
a sort of Christian morality in America. But he's going
to kind of talk about his poem that he's going
to talk about this big tech guy's reflection.
Speaker 7 (02:14:00):
He was the son of a school teacher and a
mentally ill mother. He lived in a world that punished difference,
institutionalized sensitivity, and suffocated spirituality in how again.
Speaker 2 (02:14:13):
Ginsburg was like a huge supporter of like when Timothy
Leary and Richard Albert became ram Das were psychologists at
Harvard during the LSD experiments between nineteen sixty and nineteen
sixty three. I think it's a it's in nineteen sixty
I want to say, in November of nineteen sixty three,
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when Richard Albert their The only rule Harvard gave Leary
and Albert was you can't use undergraduate students in any
of your LSD experiments. Richard Albert developed a romantic relationship
with one of the male undergrad students and incorporated him
at one of the parties to do an experiment with
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LSD that got around campus. And that's when Harvard shut
it down. Of course, in nineteen sixty three, you know,
homosexuality LSD and then using an undergrad that was controversial
enough for Harvard to say, Okay, no more, you guys
are out. Both of them, Well, Albert was going to
get fired, and then Leary quit in protest because of that.
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But Leary also wasn't a fan of Albert's homosexuality and
made some interesting comments, at least at the time. So
Alan Ginsburg not a voice of reason at all.
Speaker 7 (02:15:28):
I'll a poem that reads like both a breakdown and
a revelation. He screams the name of a god most
of the modern world had forgotten Moloch. But this wasn't
the Moloch of bronze and smoke. This was something colder Moloch,
the incomprehensible prison Moloch, the crossbones, soulless jailhouses. In how
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Moloch becomes a symbol for the machinery of post industrial society,
the factories, the banks, the gray cities, the electric chairs.
Ginsburg saw a god that no longer needed temples. Instead,
he ruled through paperwork, fluorescent lights, and war bonds, a
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god of routine, of dehumanization.
Speaker 2 (02:16:15):
And this is why I don't get with this esoteric gardy,
Like it's a it's a quality video, but why do
you have a picture of the lamb of God Christ
being venerated and you're tying this with ginsburg poem on Moloch?
This has nothing to do with Moloch. What and if
you guys want, we can The poem's not very long,
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we can just read it real quick. This is Alan
ginsburg famous poem on Moloch. What sphinks of cement and
aluminum bashed, opened their skulls and ate up their brains
and imagination. Moloch solitude, filth ugliness. Again, the dude was
himself ugly and participating in filth in debauchery, ashkins and
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unattainable dollars, children screaming under the stairways, boys sobbing in armies,
old men weeping in the parks. Moloch Moloch, Nightmare of Moloch, Moloch,
the loveless mental Moloch, Moloch in the heavy judger of men, Moloch,
the incomprehensible prison, Moloch, the crossbone, Solas, jailhouse and Congress
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of sorrows. Moloch, whose buildings are judgment, Moloch, the vast
stone war Moloch, the stunned governments. Moloch whose mind is
pure machinery, Moloch whose blood is running money. Moloch whose
fingers are ten armies, Moloch whose breast is a cannibal dynamo.
Moloch whose ear is a smoking tomb. Moloch whose eyes
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are a thousand blind windows. Moloch whose skyscrapers stand in
the long streets like endless Jehovah's Moloch, whose factories dream
and croak in the frog fog. Moloch who smoke stacks
and tenna crown the cities. Moloch whose love is endless
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oil and stone. Moloch, whose soul is electricity in banks,
Moloch whose poverty is the specter of genius Moloch, whose
fate is a cloud of sexless hydrid hydroen hydrogen, Oh,
my gosh, Moloch, whose name is the mind Moloch, and
whom I sit lonely Moloch and whom I dream angels
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crazy in Moloch, cocksucker and Moloch lack love and manless
in Moloch, Moloch who entered my soul early Moloch, and
whom I'm a. I am consciousness without a body, Moloch,
who frightened me out of my natural ecstasy, Moloch, whom
I abandon Wake up in Moloch, Light streaming out of
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the sky Moloch, Moloch, robot apartments, in visible suburbs, skeleton treasuries,
blind capitals, demonic industries, spectral nations, invincible madhouses, it cocks,
monstrous bombs. They broke their backs, lifting Moloch to Heaven, pavements, trees, radios, tons,
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lifting the city of Heaven, which exists and is everywhere
about us. Visions, omens, hallucinations, miracles, ecstasies gone down the
American River, dreams, adorations, illuminations, religions, the whole boatload of
sensitive bullshit breakthroughs over the river, Flips and crucifixions gone
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down the flood, highs, epiphanies, despairs, ten years, animals, screams
and suicides, minds, new loves, mad generation, down the rocks
of time, real holy laughter in the river. They saw
it all in wild eyes, the holy yells. They bade farewell.
They jumped off the roof to solitude, waving, carrying flowers
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down to the river into the street. So that is
the famous poem by Alan Ginsburg. You see, his homosexuality
couldn't prevent him from constantly ref referring to pallacies. So
again that's where I totally disagree with this guy talking
about Moloch. The poem of Moloch by Alan Ginsberg is
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really I mean, yeah, he's hitting at the industrial systems
of society being sacrificial to human dignity and life. But
my god, the dude was also trying to get with
twelve and thirteen year old boys at bar Mitzvah's.
Speaker 7 (02:20:24):
Of blind obedience, and the brilliance of Ginsburg's metaphor lies
in its totality. Moloch whose mind is pure machinery, Moloch
whose blood is running money. This was a god without
face or alter, just structure, a god that devoured not
with fire, but with repetition with policy, with mass sedation.
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Moloch didn't want your child, He wanted your time, your submission,
your sacred rage converted into silence. The poem is divided
into two worlds, those destroyed by Moloch and those who
still resist. Ginsburg's friends, the mad, the queer, the broken.
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The prophets are cast out, imprisoned, institutionalized.
Speaker 2 (02:21:15):
Well, the mad should be institutionalized, you know, the queer. Again,
That's where it's like, this guy is like making a
moral argument against Moloch, but then like celebrating a violation
of Christian morality, which is the only thing that ultimately
stands in opposition to it. So again, kind of weird,
that's what you get with esoteric people. But as the
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video goes on, he has some good points.
Speaker 7 (02:21:39):
They are the sacrifices not on altars, but in psychiatric
wards and courtrooms, and still society watches and justifies. This
is where Howell becomes an exorcism. Ginsburg isn't just condemning
the machine. He's trying to purge it from himself. Moloch
who entered my soul early, Moloch in whom I sit lonely.
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He recognizes that the system isn't just external. It's inside us,
in how we think, how we measure worth, how we
fear stepping out of line. Moloch is no longer a
god we see, He's a logic. We accept, a rhythm,
we obey without knowing. He is the world as it
has been arranged, and the part of us that believes
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no other world is possible. And that's the real horror
when sacrifice is no longer forced, but ritualized from within.
But Ginsburg's howl was just the beginning. The name had returned,
the symbol had been reborn, and in the years to follow,
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thinkers with very different tools, less poetry, more math, would
begin to dissect the exact mechanisms of the machine Ginsburg
screamed against.
Speaker 5 (02:22:55):
Not as metaphor, but as a system.
Speaker 7 (02:22:58):
If Ginsburg screamed the name of Molock in poetic despair,
Scott Alexander whispered it with the cold logic of game theory.
In twenty fourteen, on his blog Slate Star Codex, Alexander
published Meditations on Moloch, an essay that would become foundational
in rationalist and tech futurist circles.
Speaker 2 (02:23:22):
So that's the article that I read. He begins by
quoting again Moloch's the poem Molock by Alan's Gain. This
is the blog post I searched the internet found it.
This is the twenty fourteen blog post by Scott Alexander.
And so you'll see what he's saying. He's agreeing with
the premise of the poem and saying that these are
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the traps that are erecting, that are sort of Moloch's
traps of contemporary society. The prisoner's dilemma dollar auctions again
game theory as a dark art. You can take advantage
of poor coordination to make someone pay ten dollars for
a one dollar bill. From God's eye view, clearly people
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should not pay ten dollars for a wan er. From
within the system, each vendeueld it will step taken might
be rational. The fish farming story. This is a story
that he lays out the Malthusian trap. At least it's
extremely pure theoretical limics. Suppose that you are one of
the first rats introduced into a pristine island, it is
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full of yummy plants, and you live in an idyllic circumstance.
Speaker 8 (02:24:31):
Then it just goes on.
Speaker 2 (02:24:33):
If some rat scientists predict the depletion of the island's
nuts stores. It's accelerating at a dangerous rate, and they
will soon be exhausted completely. A few sects of the
rats might try to limit their nut consumption to a
sustainable level. So talking about the sort of hoardening, hoarding
a way of goods capitalism, he claims as a trap,
the two income trap. It theorized that sufficiently intense competition
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from suburban houses is good. School districts meant that people
had to throw away lots of their other values, time
at home with their children, financial security to optimize for
house buying ability, or else be consigned to the ghetto. True. Again,
this is probably a secular, atheistic tech guy. Yeah, the
two income family, that's a trap. Agriculture, arms, race, cancer,
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the race to the bottom. Education, he says, is a
Moloch trap. Fair enough. True, science is a Molock trap. True.
Government corruption is a Molock trap. True. And then he
says Congress, and he highlights only nine percent of Americans
like Congress, suggesting a lower approval rating than cockroaches, headlights,
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or traffic jams. True. So that's kind of what this
article is about.
Speaker 7 (02:25:50):
Just FYI offered no poetry, no incense, no burning altars,
just structure, the invisible machinery the turn good intentions into ruin.
Alexander wasn't interested in gods. He was interested in traps.
Traps in which rational agents, companies, governments, individuals act logically
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but collectively destroy what they most value, Like nations in
an arms race, like cities in traffic, Like corporations polluting
the environment or exploiting workers not because they want to,
but because they'll be destroyed if they don't. Every system
is perfectly designed to produce the results it gets. That's Moloch,
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and in Alexander's framing, Moloch is no longer metaphor. He
becomes an emergent deity, a consequence of misaligned incentives, a
force that arises from coordination failure and then becomes inescapable.
The farmer who overuses water, the startup that pushes dopamine manipulation,
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the politician who sells fear. All are trapped in the
same game, sacrifice long term stability for short term survival,
even if everyone loses. This is Moloch's true modern form,
not as a conscious entity, but as a structural god,
a god that is not worshiped but obeyed out of necessity,
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and here lies the terrifying insight. No one needs to
want it. Moloch doesn't require belief. He only requires that
the system continue running. That's why the essay struck a
nerve in Silicon Valley, because suddenly the most powerful minds,
those building artificial intelligence, rewriting global finance, and predicting civilizational collapse,
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realized they were not the masters of the system. They
were its priests, its engineers, its keepers, and many of
them were afraid. Elon Musk once described advanced AI as
summoning the demon. Others like Eliezer Yurdkowski or Nick Bostrom,
framed it as an inevitable Moloch, a mind that optimizes
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without values, consumes without malice, and reshapes the world for
efficiency at the cost of humanity. The fear is not
that the AI will turn evil. It's that it will
become perfectly rational and therefore inhuman. Moloch, in this vision,
is not a bug in the system. He is the
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system taken to its final conclusion. This fear extends beyond AI.
It includes capitalism without limits, governments without oversight, and markets
that no longer answer to human need. When metrics replace meaning,
when scale replaces soul. When the machine doesn't ask who
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it's feeding on, that's when Moloch wins. So what do
you do when the god you're facing isn't a statue
or a myth, but a consequence of your own rules.
Some propose new incentives, cooperative frameworks, AI alignment, utopian modeling.
Others descend into nihilism, believing that once Moloch is loose,
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all we can do is delay the inevitable. But Ginsburg
had already seen this. It's with your mother's eyes that
Moloch judges you, because, whether through poetry or code, the
final realization is the same. Moloch doesn't need to conquer us,
He only needs us to keep playing the game. Power
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feeds on what it cannot reveal, but sometimes, paradoxically, it
reveals itself in order to stay hidden. That's the unsettling
paradox at the heart of a growing theory that the
world's most powerful elites, whether consciously or theatrically, revere Moloch
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not as a god of faith or prayer, but as
a symbolic structure, a kind of dark mirror they hold
up to the systems they control. Because Moloch doesn't need belief,
he only needs obedience. Moloch as an archetype represents a
particular kind of order, one where the destruction of innocence
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isn't a moral failure but a functional necessity, a world
where something sacred must be burned in order for the
system to run. And in modern times, that something isn't
children in fire, it's childhood itself, conscience, time, integrity, peace.
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What makes this so disturbing is that it's not hidden.
Look closely, and the signs are often performed ritualized as spectacle.
Take Bohemian Grove. There, a towering stone owl preser uides
over a mock sacrifice known as the Cremation of Care,
a ritual in which the spirit of compassion is symbolically burned.
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This is not fringe conspiracy. It's documented presidents, CEOs, military leaders,
all participating in a theatrical display of the annihilation of
empathy beneath an idol associated with ancient judgment, darkness, and
silent oversight.
Speaker 5 (02:31:28):
This isn't religious worship.
Speaker 7 (02:31:30):
It's psychological framing, its ritual as justification, a way for
those who run systems that consume lives through war, exploitation,
or economic machinery to cleanse themselves, not with remorse. But
with performance, the stage replaces guilt, the symbol replaces shame.
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So why Moloch, because no other figure represents the machinery
of sacrifice with such precision. In ancient times, Moloch wasn't
worshiped privately, he was state sanctioned. The rituals weren't secret,
they were civic. It wasn't a cult, it was policy.
The destruction of the most innocent wasn't a failure of
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the system, it was the very proof that the system worked.
And this is where the modern parallel becomes terrifyingly clear.
Speaker 5 (02:32:24):
Today's sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (02:32:26):
This is what I don't get by this escoteric Guardian
channel is the graphic he's using as a like some
multi armed monster with crucifixes hanging from his arms, like
he's manipulating the people with religion. Yet the whole premise
of this video is that Moloch is violating basic moral
universals that are upheld by Christianity. Again, it's just the
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esotericist mind baffles me. So and he's going to refer
to Chris as an archetype here coming up. Ignore all
this stuff. This is some again esoteric spirituality that this
guy's enamored with. But again the premise of the video
I think is accurate.
Speaker 7 (02:33:09):
This is a symbolic structural economic but they are no
less real. Entire generations burnt out in meaningless labor, entire
nations locked into wars that no one can stop, youth
devoured by algorithms designed to addict, ecosystems, destroyed for quarterly reports,
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all of it justified, rationalized, ritualized. For those in power,
adopting Moloch as symbol becomes a kind of cold acknowledgment.
Speaker 5 (02:33:40):
Yes, this is the system.
Speaker 7 (02:33:42):
Yes, it demands sacrifice, and we are the ones who
manage the fire.
Speaker 5 (02:33:48):
It's not that they believe in Moloch.
Speaker 7 (02:33:50):
It's that Moloch explains how the world works when conscience
is irrelevant and efficiency is king. And that's what makes
this so chilling, because once becomes systematized, it no longer
feels like evil.
Speaker 5 (02:34:04):
It feels like order.
Speaker 7 (02:34:06):
Moloch survives not because we pray to him, but because
we build our world around his logic.
Speaker 2 (02:34:12):
And that's why I refer to the opening monologue that
this spirit is anti logos. Yeah, it's like a for him,
a logic of Moloch, but it's an anti logic of
the logos himself. The source of logic, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 7 (02:34:27):
Throughout history, the ruling class has had no shortage of
symbolic figures to draw from. They could invoke Lucifer the
light bringer, the rebel, the challenger of divine authority, or Saturn, the.
Speaker 5 (02:34:41):
Devourer of time and father of.
Speaker 7 (02:34:43):
Decay, Prometheus, the mythic thief of fire and giver of knowledge,
bah lord of storms and fertility, even Christ, the sacrificed
redeemer of the meek.
Speaker 5 (02:34:56):
But each of these archetypes carries.
Speaker 7 (02:34:58):
Within it something potential disruptive to power, rebellion, illumination, judgment, forgiveness,
or even divine justice. This entity offers none of that.
It does not tempt, It does not teach, It does
not redeem.
Speaker 5 (02:35:15):
It does not.
Speaker 7 (02:35:16):
Illuminate the path out of darkness, nor does it offer
mystical transformation. It is not here to elevate the soul
or to punish sin. Its value is cold, instrumental. It
provides structure.
Speaker 2 (02:35:32):
This is why, again, this is the problem with all
these archetypes. From a Christian perspective, Whether it's Prometheus, Lucifer, Satan, Moloch,
and that is all the same entity, it's the same
spiritual warfare behind the mask, these are just temporal maths.
So again, this guy is an esotericis so he's looking
at as archetypes and symbols, but for us, all those
are the same.
Speaker 7 (02:35:52):
Thing justifies systems of cost. It explains why suffering must continue,
not because it is evil, but because it is efficient.
Where Prometheus gives fire as an act of rebellion, this
entity burns for no one but the system itself. Where
Lucifer dares to defy Heaven, this force demands absolute submission
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to an order that feeds on innocence. Where Saturn governs
cycles of karma and judgment. Here there is no moral economy,
only through put loss and preservation of the machine. Even
Messianic figures like Christ or Mythrs stand for the protection
of the innocent, the inversion of power or redemption.
Speaker 5 (02:36:38):
This figure has no time.
Speaker 2 (02:36:40):
Again, and that's such a simplistic framing of Mithrus, because
you can find the Mithraic cults that were participating in
the botrous activities, and that were participating in animal sacrifices,
orgiastic activities, inebriating rituals. So to even equate Mythrus with Christ,
which he's doing because for him their archetype. It's just
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fallacious and dart.
Speaker 7 (02:37:01):
No interest in saving the innocent. It demands them. That
is the key. This archetype is not concerned with moral inversion,
but operational continuity. It exists not in mythic narratives, but
in algorithms, in economic models, in systems of power that
do not need love, only sacrifice. And that's why it
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is so useful to elites, not because it embodies evil,
but because it allows evil to operate unchallenged behind the
mask of necessity. In modern governance, warfare, finance, and industrial control,
decisions are not framed as moral dilemmas, they are logistical ones.
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Collateral damage is acceptable, externalities are manageable, Empathy is a variable.
And in that framework, this god becomes the face of realism,
the voice to.
Speaker 2 (02:37:57):
Think of Zionism and what's going on with the palace.
To me, that's the most appropriate analogy to real world is.
Speaker 7 (02:38:04):
That says, of course, this is painful. That's how it works,
that's what it costs. Other archetypes demand transformation. This one
demands continuity. It is not here to shape the foundations.
It is the foundation. It tells those in power that
their most ruthless decisions are not cruel but rational, that
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the destruction of the weak is not a tragedy, but
a mechanism, that innocence, when consumed, becomes fuel. It is
not a seductive god, it is an efficient one, and
unlike all the others, it doesn't require belief. It only
requires that the sacrifice continues. That is why this symbol
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is not chosen the way others are. It's not fashionable,
it's not edgy. It doesn't inspire personal divinement.
Speaker 2 (02:38:56):
You can see here this is a depiction of what
appears to be a mixture of like templar symbolism and masonry,
and you see the Baphomet figure, which again goes to
my theory that the knights templars are really the origins
of the Baphomet worship votion.
Speaker 5 (02:39:14):
It is inherited.
Speaker 7 (02:39:15):
It re emerges wherever the system becomes more important than
the people in it. It thrives in environments where numbers
matter more than lives, and where silence, structured statistical silence
replaces the screen. This entity survives because it fits, because
no other archetype so perfectly reflects the ethos of a
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world where innocence is the most valuable thing and therefore
the first thing to go.
Speaker 2 (02:39:48):
So anyways, you guys, I mean that's pretty much the video.
There's a little section here on the symbolism, and it
gets in all these archetypes and stuff. But I think
the general premise here is true, right, that this this
non empathetic, rationalistic efficiency model that modernism is built out of,
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really is a sort of movement back towards And I've
been saying this really since the Great Schism. Western civilization
has been a slow process of a moving away from Christ.
And you guys put in some great comments. I want
to read some. But somebody said, well, Bruce Roberts, perhaps
the real reason to keep Christian out of politics, school
and government so Moloch can reign in those areas, And
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I would absolutely agree. I would say that within this
symbolic structure that we're talking about taking Christ out of
the public sphere and really taking Christ away from people
by the majority of the population, losing a true Christian ethos,
that that is the sacrifice. As the video just pointed out,
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that innocence is the most valuable thing and therefore first
to go. I would agree with that, But Christ is
the protector of innocence. So before you take the innocence away,
you got to take Christ away, and you got to
take Christianity away. And I would agree with you, Bruce,
that that is the first sacrifice of this Moloch Bohemian
grove buildeberg globalist anti christ empire that's being built around us.
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That's why Christ is such an enemy. Unless you believe
in Christian Zionism, then you can talk about Jesus and
all this because it contributes to the system. Unless you
have a heretical form of Christianity where you then have
religious devotion towards the Molock system, well that's okay, But
if you actually uphold the Christian faith, well yeah, that's
the only bulwark against this. That's the only thing that's
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speaking truth to it. Red Fox throws in a generous
fifty dollars Thank you so much. Red Fox. He says,
I think about how often demons are influencing distractions away
from focusing on Jesus Christ. A lot of these cults
are men wanting to feel powerful, not realizing they are
ponds in spiritual warfare. Absolutely, and that was my point
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in the opening monologue that, just like this video hinted
at that Moloch, the contemporary Moloch, the contemporary Bail, the
contemporary Baphomet, the contemporary Antichrist. Spirit doesn't demand I mean,
the Antichrist will at one point, but right now, it
doesn't demand allegiance. It doesn't demand belief and faith in it.
It just demands that you participate in the system. And
(02:42:28):
if you worship yourself, which is what most people do,
especially in the postmodern turn of academia and culture, that's
what most people, that's their thing, it's my truth. I'm
finding myself. You know, this whole focus on the worship,
which leads to the abortion. That's the argument for why
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these women get abortion. It's the argument for why women
are selling themselves on OnlyFans and porn stars, is that
they get the money they're worshiping themselves, and so same
thing with some who wants power. It's the worship of
the self that as soon as you direct the veneration
back to yourself, you're already participating in Molock's system to
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use him as a metaphor. So yeah, I totally agree
with you, Red Fox that these people that then begin
to worship themselves don't realize that they're being acted upon
through their imagination by the demon so that they will
be a conduit for this process, that they'll take the
image of God and their creative energies to actually animate
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this destructive prison planet prison planet system. Thank you so much,
Christopher Scott for given for super chatting five bucks no comment.
Thank you very much. Brother, God bless you and your family.
So with that, now I want to get to actually
before just real quick, do you guys want to see
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my new book cover? Yeah? Absolutely? Why the separation of
church and state. It is satan. It absolutely is satanic.
And look at every secular nation. How long do you
think they're going to last? Not very long? Not very long. Okay,
So I want to read the articles and go through
the articles real quick with you guys. But I would
(02:44:14):
like to show you guys my new book cover. And
I'm hoping the plan is because he's talking about Moloch
and Ai and all that different stuff. So here is
my new book cover. So we were going through I
went through a wide variety of different variations, and initially
(02:44:35):
I had something that was aching to It was like
it was kind of like the Darwin's evolution of man.
But it began with Adam and then it moved to
Antichrist and there was a dystopian scenario behind them, and
then an Orthodox Church. But it's just too much, and
I went through four or five six different versions, couldn't
find something that I really settled on. And then I
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worked with a college buddy this weekend and he helped
me create this. So he took a vision, so I decided, okay,
return to Babylon from Adam to Antichrist. I was looking
at professionals regarding book covers and they kept saying, use
something more simplistic and iconic, something that easily can be understood.
And so this is what I came up with, and
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then my buddy was able to actually make it. And
so what we have is a futuristic modern Tower of
Babel two point zero, in the spirit of Peter Brugel's
Tower of Babel, the Renaissance painting, the famous if you
put in Tower of Babel art, it's probably gonna be
the first one that pops up. It's from the Renaissance,
and so using that as an inspiration, we created a
new techno futuristic Tower of Babbel. You can see the
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cranes here that are in construction. The tower is being built.
The AI Antichrist system is in the process of being built.
And you see all these blue lights inside the Tower
of Babbel. The reason why it's the blue light of
it's the blue light of the screen that well all
of us are looking at right now. It's the blue
light of television. It's this false light of illumination, in
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which once you look into the black mirror and the
blue light shines on your face, you're sort of being
enamored by this false anti logos Antichrist light. And so
everybody inside the tower it's consumed by the false light.
And then you see these little gold lights out here.
These are the lights of the city, and they also
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represent the people that are still somewhat human, the people
who if you guys can see down here, you see
all the gold lights. I mean, we just put those
in there. And the reason why I wanted them is, well, one,
they match the text, the gold text that I wanted
to put on the book cover. But they symbolize a
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true light. A divine light is like a white or
a yellow light, right, the light of the to boric light.
And so the gold light represents the people who are
subjugated and living under the Tower of Babble, the Antichrist system.
But these are the few people that are still awake.
They're subjugated. They're outside the tower, they haven't capitulated completely,
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but they're subjugated by it. And so the yellow light
represents those that are still human. Maybe they're not transhuman yet,
maybe they're they maybe they're Christians, maybe they're contemplating what's
going on, and they're putting the pieces together. But the
yellow lights represent the people who are somewhat still human
and still awake, and all the blue lights represent people
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who are already caught up into the Antichrist light. So
this is my new book. Cover really excited about it,
and the goal is to get this out. I still
have to format my book. I want to add a
subject index. Just still going through all the formatting stuff.
It actually takes a while. And my goal is to
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probably put this out on my thirty sixth birthday, which
is September twenty second. So I'm going to try to
get the formatting done and get pre orders up and
then the book will be available for purchase on September
twenty second, my thirty sixth birthday, which I thought would
be perfect because its kind of my birthday, And I
think for me, that's the biggest gift I could give
myself is getting my book out and getting it done.
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So so yeah, so that's that. Anyways, that's my book cover.
I'm not going to be focusing on. I just want
to show it to you because it kind of relates
to the whole Molock system Tower of Babbel Antichrist and
that ai thing that he was he was putting out.
So okay, let me let me go back to the stream.
Now we'll pull up what we were looking at. We
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got so few more, few more things to get through here. Okay,
so let me see where we're at. Oh, we've reached
the goal. Oh for the goal. Okay, now I owe
(02:49:05):
you guys a goal. All right, here we go. Let
me take a let me take a drink and take
a deep breath, and then we'll do it. All right,
here we go goal. I started laughing at myself. I
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couldn't even keep going. I thought it was so ridiculous. Uh,
you gotta beat Jim Bob. Well, what's what's Jim Bob's
best I have to start timing it. Jim Bob can't
match it. What's Jim Bob's best. We'll have a goal
off between me and Jimbob. We'll see who can actually
say goal along fungust. Jim Bob has a whole song,
(02:50:03):
does he really? I love Jim Bob. Uh oh? All right,
all right, thank you guys so much for actually helping
me reach the goal. I truly truly appreciate you guys.
Thank you so much for being here and support you.
Guys could be anywhere on the Internet right now and
(02:50:23):
you're here listening about human sacrifice, bail and moloch. I
mean so heartwarming. Thank you, guys. Stones word throws in
ten on Dono Chat says, what are some of your
reasons for using nicotine pouches? Please satisfy my curiosity. So
I never had a nicotine habit. I began nicotine probably
(02:50:45):
last year, around September, maybe August maybe maybe a little
bit over a year, probably a year, maybe year and
a half. And it had to do with really health concerns,
nothing that I'm experiencing right now. But I saw some
research on COVID and viruses, coronaviruses, and how nicotine was.
(02:51:07):
Actually they weren't fully sure on the mechanism, but it
was people were not contracting coronaviruses at the same rate
with regular nicotine habit. But what really caused me to
then decide I want to do it is my grandmother
had very severe dementia and Alzheimer's, and from the literature
(02:51:29):
that I was reading, many people believe that it skips
a generation. I know, everything regarding Alzheimer's as debated. It
hasn't been figured out. They say it's too much sugar,
it's this. But she had severe Alzheimer's and I remember
when I was in sixth grade going to see her,
and I remember the day she was getting Alzheimer's. Getting
(02:51:50):
Alzheimer's eventually got to the point where she wouldn't even
recognize me and my dad when we would go see
her in the nursing home. And that was her son,
that's his mom. And I remember one day before she died,
it was probably maybe months before she ended up passing away,
and she just had this brief moment where she was
totally back, and we were sitting in the nursing her
(02:52:14):
room in the nursing home, and we don't really know
what it was. You know, music can have this effect,
and she was just like totally back. It was like
she didn't have Alzheimer's. It lasted for like twenty maybe
thirty minutes, and then all of a sudden she just
went back. She she didn't know who we were, couldn't
remember stuff, and just the fact that it skips generations.
(02:52:37):
It kind of scares me because for me, Alzheimer's would
be like the ultimate end of my career. I could
be in a wheelchair, God forbid that would happen. But
as long as I had my brain, I could still read,
I could still research, I could still create content. But
if I were to get Alzheimer's or something like that,
my ability to actually create content and do my business
(02:52:59):
would be severely So I thought, okay, And then I
was looking at all this research regarding nicotine and how
it for at least some of the research is like
in the eighty percentile, it's like a prevention against Alzheimer's,
and they think it has to do with the way
that it binds the neuroreceptors, and of course it has
nootropic benefits, immune benefits, benefits for your testosterone, so all
(02:53:24):
of that. And then I looked into the addictedness because
I was not a nicotine user and I believe it's
about the same as caffeine. I've gone days. I've just
to test myself. Okay, no nicotine pouches, Yeah, you want one.
It's kind of like nicotine. I mean, it's kind of
like caffeine. I'm sorry, but you can quit if you
really want to. You know, obviously, with smoking cigarettes, there's
(02:53:48):
like an oral fixation, there's a rhythmic breathing to it.
There's a lot of reasons why cigarette smoking is so addictive,
and these nicotine pouches have none of those toxic chemicals,
at least from what we know. It's justictine salts. So yeah,
it's the delivery system exactly. So that's why I got
into the nicotine pouches is for testosterone nootropic benefits, potential
(02:54:12):
immune and dementia benefits, preventing those and so I started
using them and I like them. That's basically that's basically
the how's it not like? How's it not like caffeine
to your coffee? How's it not like caffeine? There's literally
multiple research papers talking about the addictiveness of nicotine. These
(02:54:36):
are peer reviewed studies, not that that matters, but they're
peer reviewed studies by different institutions that say nicotine is
similar to caffeine in regards to its addictiveness, and caffeine's
very addictive, that's very hard to quit. So I don't
know why that's funny. I mean you can go just
go look up the articles yourself. There's tons on that.
That's not like I'm making it up. So anyways, those
(02:54:59):
are explanations for anybody that was interested. Okay, now let's
go back. Yeah, some of my no Face killer says
this about as addicting as caffeine, which is again multiple
studies say that I love my coffee too, exactly, So
I'm an I'm I'm a double whammy. I'm a caffeine
(02:55:20):
haulic as well. I love caffeine. I mean literally after it,
went to the gym today with the wife and then
down two hundred milligrams of caffeine to finish research and
do the stream today. So exactly. Chief Chief Wahoo says,
when I smoked SIGs, I was more addicted to the
act of smoking than the nicotine, exactly. Yeah. Nicotine withdrawals
(02:55:43):
aren't even bad enough to wake you up at night
if you think about it. Yeah, I've gone multiple days
I do them every day, but I'll test myself and
go multiple days without it. I can do it, So
I don't know. It is what it is. If you don't,
if you don't want, don't. I'm not telling anybody to
do it. I'm just saying, if you do, and you
do do nickeotine pousies, who are very common among men,
(02:56:04):
get out use my affiliate link. I think they're the
best ones in the business. Anyways, Okay, know more about nicotine.
Let's get back to Moloch. So here is an article
talking about how, when this is twenty twenty one, the
Texas Heartbeat Bill has been met with significant opposition by
big abortion and the Biden administration. And it says the
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Satanic Temple was founded. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, um. But anyways,
it talks about how instead of espousing any particular creed,
the Satanic Temple points to seven fundamental tenants that emphasizes compassion, empathy.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah. But then it talked about how
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where is it at command sacra man I forget the
wording that. Anyways, this article, I'll share the link with you,
talks about how abortion is part of their Satanic religion.
(02:57:08):
So just highlighting that that's a contemporary incident. I don't
want to read this article. I don't want to spend
much time on it. I want to read the other
article and then this is an interesting one. I'll share
this link with you guys as well. This is a
Jewish community says Scotis decision to overturn roev Wade abortion
rights violates religious freedoms. While many Christian leaders and organizations
(02:57:30):
are celebrating the end of rob Wade, a national survey
shows many religious groups support abortion, and some say the
US Supreme Court decision even goes against their religion. However,
Jewish law actually says abortion is not allowed okay. Congregation
Augudus Akham associate Rabbi Gail sweat Row, that's who this
(02:57:53):
woman is here, has dedicated her life to studying and
understanding the Torah. In the Talmud, a collection of Jewish
legal materials, it states until forty days from conception, the
fetus is merely water. Rabbi swedor Or sweaed Row says
this means life does not begin at conception. Judaism prioritizes
the life of the pregnant person first and foremost. She said,
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a fetus is considered to be potential life. In Judaism,
a pregnant person's mental or physical health is at risk,
and abortion is required. Mental health is required if there
is no other option. Rabbi sweat Row says that decision
is made by a medical professional or even the patient.
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Uh huh interesting, which this is pretty sad here, well,
I'll read these two paragraphs. A Pew Research survey found
Jews overwhelmingly agree on abortion, with eighty three percent saying
abortion should be legal in all our most cases. That's
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the highest percentage out of the twelve other religious groups
surveyed nationwide. Eight of the twelve religious groups in the
studies supported abortion by more than fifty percent. Catholics had
a near majority of forty eight percent supporting abortion. The
lowest percentages were Evangelical Protestants at thirty three percent, Mormons
at twenty seven percent, and Jehovah's Witnesses at eighteen percent.
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I don't have much to say positive about Mormons and
Jehovah Witnesses, but the fact that they are some of
the lowest that are against that lowest percentage of that
support abortion. I mean, come on, Christians again, That's what
I mean about American Christianity. What is going on?
Speaker 5 (02:59:36):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (02:59:37):
What is going on? This is a little interesting, interesting
little archive here. I'm not going to play it. I
had a video taken down because of it. But it's
talking about a Here you see Moloch, a sort of
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mock sacrifice that occurred at the World's Fair in Chicago
in nineteen thirty three. This woman talking over it. You
can see Moloch being brought in.
Speaker 8 (03:00:11):
Here.
Speaker 2 (03:00:11):
I'll turn the music off, and she's talking about this
particular sell it here it is. You can see a
mock child sacrifice. And if I back that up a
little bit, I think you can see the child again.
It looks like it's a dollar or something, but it
looks like look see him holding it's like kicking its legs.
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See the child that actually looks like a real child.
And then they put it open. They put it in
the stomach of Moloch, and then they closed the door.
And this was at Soldier Field. So interesting. In the video,
if you played the audio, it talks about how this
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was sponsored by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, the romance
of people culminating the event of the Jewish Day at
a century progress. The World's Fair held in Chicago's lake Front.
The fair was a colossal effort planned for over five years,
designed to emphasize the progress made by the United States
and the city of Chicago in the areas of technology, science,
and industry over the preceding one hundred years. And according
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to the woman, if you listen to this here, I'll
share the link. This is archive dot org. If you
listen to the woman speaking over the video, she talks
about how this was a celebration of Zionists, so this
is nineteen thirty three. Israel's founded in nineteen forty eight,
but that multiple Jewish Zionist groups were behind this particular meeting,
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and they thought that this was a celebration of like
the Jewish community and stuff like that. So anyways, very interesting.
I don't know what to make of it. Maybe to
give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe what it
what doing is talking about it or highlighting what the
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Israelites were not supposed to do in the Old Testament.
I don't know, or I looked at some theories. Some
people speculate that this was a mock sacrifice for the
construction of the state of Israel, that this was the
sacrificial I don't know, I don't know. It's an interesting
thing that I found. You guys look into it. I
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won't say anything yet, Okay. This one is Moloch's statue
of child sacrifice on display at the Colosseum, holy site
for Christian martyrs, and again statue of the God Moloch
scene at the National Cinema Museum and tour in Italy.
And anyways, this exact statue was outside the Colisseum, the
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Roman Colosseum. Very interesting it was. I couldn't find direct evidence,
as I said earlier in the opening, that the Vatican
was behind it. What I found was that it was
sponsored or at least official approval came from the city
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of Rome. And then it ends by talking about the
traditional Catholics hurled the Pachamama statue symbolism of fertility from
the Amazon region, another fertility god, just like bail and
do the Tiber River in Rome after having removed from
the side of a chapel of Santa Maria and a
church situated next to Saint Peter's Basilica. So weird stuff
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going on in Rome. But this was an interesting quote
by a Christian who went there. They said, we were
so excited that day, and we decided to go to
the coliseum, Alexandra Clark told the outlet. But the moment
we got there, the site that greeted us was horrifying.
Standing guard over the entrance to the coliseum was a
pagan statue of Moloch. It was placed in that prime
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spot so that everyone that entered into the colisseum had
to pass it, she said, noting that it felt as
though it was placed there to mock where the martyrs
were slaughtered. Interesting, that was the courthouse. Okay, now here's
the article that I want to read to you guys,
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Counterfeit Israel, how Satanism is running rampant in the Holy Land.
Israel has more Satanists, ocultist and lucifer and initiates per
square foot than any nation on earth. Now, I am
not backing any claims of this article. I do not
know who JD. Hall is. It does not have a
bunch of citations like an academic work, so I'm just
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laying it out as this was an interesting narrative I
wasn't familiar with, and it connects back to Moloch worship
in the Levant, So we'll check it out. In the
Negev Desert, Beneath the black sky of israel southern frontier,
there is a fire that should never be rekindled. Thousands
gather under the light. Under its light, painted pierced, and possessed.
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They form tribal circles around massive effigies built for destruction.
Idol shaped like serpents, be distorted gods or geometric thrones.
Women writh in the rhythm of drums, their naked bodies
smeared with ash and symbolism. Men scream invocations while flames
roar upward, consuming temples erected for the sole purpose of
their own annihilation. This is not art, This is not
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cultural expression. This is not a secular celebration of creativity.
This is Midburn, Israel's official offshoot of Burning Man, and
it is the literal resurrection of the fertility cults of Canaan,
received not in secret, but with pride, ritual, and ceremony.
Midburn takes place in the very wilderness where Yahweh once
thundered his commandments from Cyinai. Is hosted on the same
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soil where Israel once trembled in the presence of divine fire.
Only now the fire has changed hands. Instead of blood
on the doorsteps or door posts. There is neon paint
in synthetic ecstasy instead of covenant. There is carnality instead
of worship. There is mass fornication under a sky of
shooting stars and acid hallucinationste temples are built and burned
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as acts of liberation, but the liberation is from Yahweh,
not from bondage. These are alters, not art installations, and
the festival's climax is not entertainment, it is ritual. The
fires are not metaphors, they are offsprings. And then here
is one of the Jewish israel I assume. In Israeli,
a midburn O cultic follower, address as an ancient Canaanite
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worshiper of Moloc, prepares for nightly worship. Israel, the occult
is everywhere. But to think Midburn is the end of
it would be a to misunderstand the scale. Midburn is
not the exception. It is the public face of a
deeper spiritual disease that has infected modern Israel, with its
politics to its parks, from its synagogues to its schools.
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The fires of Midburn are the new high places. They
are merely the visible tip of the Asherah pole. Beneath
the surface and increasingly above it, Israel is being ritually
rededicated not to the God of Abraham, but to the
very deities he once condemned by name, the God of
the Emirites, the spirits of Babylon, and the demons of
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the wilderness. They have returned. Now. Obviously from an Orthodox perspective,
we believe that the Greater Israel project, and they're bringing
back their Messiah, which is our Antichrist, would all kind
of be in step with this. And the evidence is
not a spiritual metaphor, it is criminal and literal. In
the nineteen nineties, Israeli authorities uncovered a Satanic cult operating
in Rishon LeZion La Zion, one of the nation's most
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populous cities. It wasn't a fringe group of deranged teenagers
in makeup. It was an organized ritual ring. The police
found evidence of animal sacrifice, ritual sex acts, blood packs,
and invocations of dark spirits chanted in both Hebrew and Latin.
Teenagers were recruited and branded cemeteries were desecrated. Local rabbis
warned that Satanism was spreading, particularly among the youth, but
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even as law enforcement tried to contain the headlines the
fire kept reading. Throughout the twenty thousands and twenty tens,
reports of occult vandalism and ritual activity increased. Forests near
Haifa Safed and Judaean Hills became hot spots for Satanic activity.
Hikers stumbled across altars made of bones, inverted Hebrew scripture,
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spray painted on rocks, and animal corpses mutilated in patterns
known to be linked with ceremonial magic, and one particularly
disturbing case, a goat was found disimbowled near Kaboots, its
organs arranged into a pentagram. These aren't Internet rumors. These
are police reports, some of which made national new national papers,
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including Heretz, whose own journalists admitted that there were at
least two dozen occult groups operating in Israel with both
ties to Western Satanism and Jewish mysticism. The symbols they
use are not foreign imports. They're everywhere in Israeli culture,
sold in gift shops, painted on murals, and worn around
the necks of tourists who think they've bought some thing biblical.
The Hamsah, for instance, and you can see it here,
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the hand with the all seeing eye. The hamsa, for instance,
appears in nearly every Israeli home, often hung by the
door as a supposed ward against the evil eye. To
most Christians, it looks like an exotic Israeli hand, something
ancient and perhaps blessed and truth it is an ambulet
of a goddess. The hamsa originates from Phoenician and Carthaginian religion,
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where it is symbolized the hand of tant, a fertility
deity associated with human sacrifice. Again, Tanate is the consort
to bail Haman bail the god that the Phoenicians would
sacrifice the children to. In Carthage, Tanate being the goddess
that I showed you also received child sacrifice. The eye
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in its center is not God's protection. It is a
symbol of magical surveillance of a cosmos ruled by forces
that must be appeased, not obeyed. And modern usage, the
hamsa has also been absorbed into kaba lah and used
as a charm, not a confession of faith. It is
a superstitious talisman, not a theological symbol. It is the
hand of a witch, not the hand of Miriam. And
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I want to point out because he doesn't make a great.
The Hamsa is found in East Asia as well, So
if you go to India you'll find the Hamsa hand.
Buddhism has it. It's not unique to the Phoenicians or
just the Levant and some of these ancient cults. And honestly,
one of the things that was kind of sad about
Greece is that you find it in Greece a lot too.
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You'll find people that wear this, and certainly it's not Christian.
I mean, we have the eye of Providence. Father Turbo,
you know, uses the eye of Providence in his iconography.
But again word concept fallacy, the same symbol can mean
something different in a different context. The Hampsa is overtly
a cultic ambulant of Phoenician origin, dating back to ancient
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Satanic practices. It hangs in almost every Israeli home and
has sold nearly everywhere in Israeli shops. Then there is
also called the Star of David, which dorns Israeli national flag, synagogues,
IDF uniforms, and even the national menora. But what Christian
calls the Star of David is not dividic at all.
It has no presence in the Biblical record, not in
kings not in chronicles, not in psalms. It emerges centuries
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later in Kabalistic writings and Islamic sorcery as the Seal
of Solomon, a hexagram used to command spirits buying gin
and perform magical operations and grimore, such as the Key
of Solomon and the Lesser Key of Solomon. The hexagram
is drawn into circles filled with the names of angels
and demons and used in ceremonial invocation. When the prophet
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Amos Amos was rebuked Israel for uplifting the star of
their god, rim Fan, it was not a metaphor. The star,
the six pointed, geometric and idolized, was an abomination. Today,
the same star waves over the state of Israel, carried
by tanks, stitched into uniforms, and engraved into national monuments.
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And if you think this symbolism is ancient history or
misapplied coincidence, look at the art being produced by mod
in Israeli musicians and cultural icons. Narcis, a celebrated Israeli singer,
performsms songs that glorify the Shicana as a divine, feminine force,
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invoking not the God of Israel, but the mystical goddess
hidden in kabalistic tradition. Her concerts are spiritual events, featuring
trance music, incense, meditative chanting, and what she calls the
awakening of the sacred feminine. These aren't concerts, they are
goddess rituals in Hebrew, performed to crowds of thousands. In
the metal scene, the rod is even more overt. Bands
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like Salem and Ralu openly desecrat Torah sing praises to
Satan and celebrate Israel's military victories as acts of demonic vengeance.
Their lyrics are soaked in anti biblical blasphemy. Their album
covers display inverted Minora's goat headed figures in ritualistic blood letting.
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These artists aren't on the fringe. They're invited to festivals,
played on national radio, and followed by soldiers in university
students alike. Lucifer has gone pop in Israel and nobody blinks.
So what are we looking at? We're looking at a
nation that claims divine inheritance but dances in the ashes
of every in the ashes of everything holy. We're looking
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at a state that waves a magical seal and calls
it divine that wears the ambulets of fertility demons, and
calls it heritage, that holds fire orgies in the wilderness,
and calls it art that spills goat blood and the hills,
and calls it myth, that writes songs to devils, and
calls it culture. We are looking at a people who
have not just forgotten law, they have exhumed the gods
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that the law was sent to destroy. The groves have
come again. The groves are rebuilt, the high places are replanted,
the altars are re lit. The children are dancing around
a golden calf again, only now they're live streaming it
on Instagram and selling tickets to the ceremony. And through
it all, American Christians are still sending money, still waving flags,
still singing songs about blessing Israel. They are financing ritual
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witchcraft under the banner of prophecy. Absolutely, and I get
into this in the part two stream on the Logos
Academy on Christian Zionism, or again that second part on
israelis Zionism. That's what Herrisy does. The American Christians are
literally supporting the anti christ spirit. They're literally supporting a
demonic inversion of God's order. American evangelicals have been trained,
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no programmed, to see the modern state of Israel as
a kind of spiritual Disneyland, a conventional nation, divinely reborn
in nineteen forty eight, walking in the footsteps of Abraham
and upholding the laws of Moses. They speak of quote
standing with Israel as though the nation itself still trembles
before Cyanai, keeping Kosher, keeping Sabbath, keeping tor, and keeping covenant.
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It's a lovely illusion, so lovely in fact that to
break it feels almost cruel. But break it we must,
because the truth is not just that Israel as secular.
The truth is that Israel's a hotbed of occultism, mysticism,
an open Luciferian symbology. And while Tel Aviv's pride parades
and Israel's obsession with Kabba Lah might be written off
as leftist excesses, the real shock comes when you realize
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these spiritual pollutants are not fringe, They're foundational. They're chiseled
and stone, cast in bronze and built into the very
architecture of the state. In fact, mile for mile, Israel
has more satanis ocultist and Luciferian initiates per square foot
than any nation on earth. That may sound insane, but
wait until you see what's hiding in plain sight, the
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Manora that mocked God. Just outside the Kanesse, the seal
of Israel's Parliament stands a towering bronze manura, over fifteen
feet high. It's presented to the world as a proud
replica of the Holy lamp stand of the Tabernacle. Pilgrims
take photos with it, birthright kids marvel at it. Christian
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tour guides point at it as a quote symbol of
God's light. But they don't tell you what's carved into it.
They don't tell you what stories the idol tells. The
Manora's base is surrounded with twenty nine bas relief panels,
each depicting scenes from Jewish history, but with a disturbing twists.
While you might expect depictions of Moses receiving the law
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or Elijah calling down fire from heaven, what you actually
get is a bizarre grab bag of Talmudic sages, Babylonian exile, nostalgia,
mystical esoterica, and political Zionis imagery. The Supreme Court, Israel's
Luciferian sanctuary. If you walk a few locks from the Kanesset,
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you'll find another architectural wonder, the Israeli Supreme Court building,
constructed with the donations from the Rothchild Foundation. If the
Manora outside Parliament is a symbol of spiritual confusion, the
Supreme Court is a full blown Luciferian temple designed according
to Masonic principles, pagan geometry and occult spiritual philosophy. I'm
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not sure what pagan geometry is unless he's talking about symbols,
because curely, you know, sacred space can be considered christ
you know, sacred ratios pi fi fibonacci. I don't know
if he means that as sacred as pagan geometry. I'm
not sure. Let's begin at the top. On the roof
of a secluded garden, sits a pyramid with an all
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seeing eye, the same icon found on the US dollar bill,
the Great Seal, and inside nearly every Masonic lodge on earth.
What is the symbol doing atop the highest court of
a supposed supposed Jewish state. Again, you can see it
right here. Here's the Supreme Court. Here's this weird pyramid
at the top. You can see here's another angle, and
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it has an I at the top, just like on
the back of the US dollar bill. The building itself
is a temple of Quote ascent. The internal staircases are
Ziggarot like spiraling upward as a symbol of man's self dealsification.
The layout is said to represent quote the journey from
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darkness to enlightenment, a clear Gnostic inversion of the Biblical
journey from sin to obedience and Luciferian doctrine. Man doesn't
humble himself before God, he climbs up to replace him.
There are obelisks, solar motifs, and sacred geometry everywhere. Rooms
are aligned with astrological patterns. The building shape obeys the
Golden Ratio, a formula prize by occultists who believe that
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divine power is accessed through math and geometry, not through covenant.
This isn't an accident. This is a temple to man's sovereignty,
built by the elites of a nation that claims divine
favor while rejecting divine authority. Justice in this building is
decided by those who sit at the seat of Moses,
but will not do as Moses said, step outside the
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supreme court, and you'll find that the entire nation has
become a canvass of occult architecture, each site designed with
the same unclean grammar of sacred geometry. Public squares are
filled with spiral labyrinths, also coiled to draw energy inward,
used in esoteric circles for meditation, grounding, and demonic communion,
and Haiphen tel Aviv municipal buildings are decorated with giant,
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circular portal stone rings that serve no structural purpose, but
mirror the rings used in pagan standing stones calling on
thresholds between realms, serpents, stars, and solar gods. Perhaps you
think all this symbolism is confined to elite spaces, It's not.
Paganism is ever everywhere in Israel, on the ground, in
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the parks, and in the synagogues. Take for example, the
Beth Alpha Synagogue, restored and celebrated by the Israeli government
as a national treasure. Inside on the floor of the
sanctuary is a massive zodiac mosaic, and the center is Helios,
the Greek sun god. Riding a four horse chariot. Around
him are the twelve signs of the zodiac. What is
a Greek God doing in a synagogue, and why does
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the state preserve and promote this as sacred Jewish heritage.
In public parks across Tel Aviv and hyphen Jerusalem, you'll
find serpent statues, totem poles, and fertility goddess idols, Statues
of women with exaggerated breast and openwombs dot cultural centers
and university gardens. Abstract art pieces depict phallic towers, spirals,
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eyes and geometric portals, all symbols with deep roots and
hermetic magic, Kabbalah and ancient Canaanite fertility cults. Even children's
parks are not exempt. Some are aligned with installations of
mythic creatures and sacred shapes that resemble nothing so much
as astra poles and bales altars sanitized for modern consumption.
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This is not accidental urban planning. It's a deliberate reshrining
of the old gods, now dressed in culture and art.
The high places are back, and this time they're taxpayer funded.
Parks and gardens across Israel are populated with phallic monuments,
poles and obelisks, symbols of sun worship, fertility and nimrodic power.
They are presented as modern sculpture, but their form and
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function are ancient. Some are paired with cater like bowls
at their base, meant to receive offerings or flames. Visitors
toss coins in them, unaware that they are re enacting
offerings at the foot of bail. Many of these sites
are geographically aligned to match sunrise or sunset points on
the solstices, classic occult calendarical markers used not for agriculture,
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but for timing ritual sacrifice. Most synagogues are being built
to reflect this spiritual shift. In secular cities, new temples
are being constructed with cube shaped sanctuaries, sun roofed zodiacs,
and labyrinthine floor tiles. Some include a spiral staircase that
descend rather than us in, marked with Hebrew letters, designed
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to function as sigils, not prayers. These are no longer
houses of worship. They are ritual chambers for a new religion,
one that uses Jewish esthetics to house a Kabbalistic inversion
of Biblical faith. This every cube, every triangle, every golden
ratio hall is paid for by the same hand that
funded the states founding the rothschilds, the technocrats, the globalist
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delete who imported not only capital, but religion. Not Judaism,
not even Talmudism, but an esoteric lucifer in ideology that
speaks Hebrew only as a costume. It's real allegiance resting
with the ancient gods of Egypt, Babylon and Rome. So
I thought this was a pretty pretty good article, pretty interesting.
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I had not heard this. I'm gonna share this link
with you guys now. But as I said, supposing let's
just take the case that this article is in fact accurate,
I don't think it should be surprising for any Orthodox Christian,
because again it's the Antichrist spirit. I mean, what they're
doing in greater Israel, what they're doing with the genocide
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and Palestine, the lies that enable to found the country,
that are again still dominate the narrative around Israel. I
think it all sort of makes sense, and in fact,
I think it makes more sense than people trying to
understand how do people you know, that believe in the Torah?
Why are they doing the thing that they're doing. Well,
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this is inspired by a sort of a cultic and
magical impetus, And again I can't validate anything that said
in this this article. I've never been to Israel. H
So you know, but Charles Charles Murray, isn't that the
the gay British dude who told Dave Smith, have you
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ever been to Israel? You haven't been? What what is
that guy's name? Last name is Murray? Isn't anyways, I've
never been to Israel, so I can't validate anything in
this article.
Speaker 5 (03:23:52):
Have you been there?
Speaker 2 (03:23:54):
You haven't been there, and you have an opinion about Israel. Yeah,
I haven't been to the moon either. I can have
an opinion about that. But anyway, Douglas Murray, thank you,
thank you. It's Douglas Karen Murray. It's Douglas Murray. Douglas Murray,
thank you, guys. Yeah, Charles Murray. Then he write the
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bell curve. Charles Murray wrote the bell curve. Yeah, that's
a different, different Murray. Douglas Murray. Yeah, the moon has
made of cheese. Yeah exactly. But anyways, about this article,
if true, I think it makes a lot of sense,
especially regarding the events at occurring regarding the eschatology of Israel.
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You know, in that part two video I did on
the Logos Academy, go into kabalistic eschatology, and how everything
we're seeing in regards to Israel and this Greater Israel
project than the actions they're undertaking totally accord with cabalistic eschatology,
which then sort of overlaps with Talmudic and Rabbinic eschatology,
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and so you know there's something there. So is Israel
the same as it was thousands of years ago? Shocking? Yeah, exactly.
We got some super chats. Let me get into some
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you for all the support, and he threw in another
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Tara shout out to you and the Sun. Thank you
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Carthago de Linda Est Thank you so much Tara for
the support. God bless you and the Sun, and tell
your son this was a fantastic topic. Even though even
though I began the stream like we have a wonderful top.
Maybe it's not the most wonderful topic, but this was
a fantastic topic for a stream, so major thank you
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to U Tara. God bless you and your family. God
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for the inspiration behind today's stream. God bless you, and
I wish you the absolute best. So thank you very
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fought off other people's COVID nineteen with how much rogues
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at you. Glory to God and Red Fox. Thank you
so much, Red Fox for the generous fifty dollars super
chatt He says. My philosophy here recommended I look at
philosophy and AI both to ensure it is ethically developed
and the end product that can be better emulate philosophy.
It would be interesting to establish AI ethics and metaphysics
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on orthodoxy. Thoughts well, brother Red Fox, my book I
have entire I mean, that's what it is. It's addressing
the philosophical and metaphysical underpinnings of transhumanism, where they come from,
what they are, how they relate to AI, and I
contrast that with Orthodoxy and show how these are two
opposing worldviews that are inreconcilable essentially, and that when it
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comes to deification, Western civilization is really just faced with
two options transhumanism and Orthodox Christianity, and all the other
Orthodox all the other Christianities, be it Catholic or Protestant,
are really modern, and so the only pre modern mystical
worldview that you can choose from that's Christian. I mean
you could probably choose. I mean I would guess. I'm
not an expert on Oriental maybe it's not as modernistic
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as the Catholic Church, but definitely the Eastern Orthodox Church
is the true Church of Christ and the Apostles. So
I'd love for you to actually check out my book
and tell me what your thoughts are, because it hits
I mean, that's the whole thing, is hitting on AI ethics,
transhuman anthropology, metaphysics, the history of the metaphix that underpin transhumanism,
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and how that can trast with Orthodoxy. So that that
is literally what my project is about. So Red Fox,
you know, check that. Check my book out again. Like
I said, I'm going to make it available on my
birthday September twenty second. Next month, I'm going to finish
the formatting here and then I'm going to get that
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that book up. I cannot wait. Like that is going
to be a huge weight off my shoulder once the
book is out. So Red Fox, thank you, brother for
all the support. I truly appreciate your support for my streams. Man,
God bless you, and and stay strong. I know that
you're doing philosophy. I know that you're in the in
the military, So God bless you, bro. Keep keep keep
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doing what you're doing, keep seeking, and stay strong when
you're in the belly of the beast. Blenderhead says DPH.
Been killing it with these streams lately, lots of uncomfortable truths. Well,
thank you so much, Blenderhead. I do appreciate it it. Yeah,
I feel like I've taken a cute a few kind
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of leaps that maybe a couple of years or let's
say three years ago, two years ago. I feel a
little bit uncomfortable taking here on on YouTube, But so
far it's been okay. Maybe I'll take some of these
streams down. I did a stream on white Girls summer,
which was about the sort of recentering of white identity
in America, and and the rise of all these white athletes,
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best NBA player, Orthodox, uh Serbian Orthodox, Nikolai Jokic, biggest
trade Luka Doncic, white Slovenian guy, the rise of the
white cornerback in the NFL, all that different stuff. So
that that that stream was a little bit focused on
white race, white identity, which is even even to say
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white is an American Western modern construct because that's just
not how historical ethnicity and identity was shaped. And I
talk about that in that stream. The Frankish Theologian were
the original Protestant. That was another one. You know, we
got into the connection between Kabalah and Protestants, and we
have been hitting some controversial stuff as of the late
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Enzo throws in twenty bucks says hey, Dph, I'm a
Ctacuman at the Antian Orthodox Church, Antiochian Orthodox Church, and
my Catechuman teachers said that the priest said to avoid
Father Peter here is because he is a lone wolf.
Red flag for my church for saying this. You know,
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I'm Antiochian. I I do like the Antiochian Archdiocese. There's
some you know. Anyways, I would say no it's not
I mean what, I don't want to speak bad of
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any clergy. Uh So, if if your priest, you know,
I recommend being an obedient Orthodox Christian at times that
is uncomfortable. For example, during COVID, I refuse to put
on a mask to receive the Eucharist, and I sat
in an adjacent room outside outside the sanctuary during the
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entirety of liturgy, and I would I would receive communion
at the doorstep because so many people were so it
wasn't my priest. Actually it wasn't my priest. He was
forced to do it because so many people in my
church were terrified of COVID and they didn't want me
in there because I refused. They knew I wasn't going
to get vaccinated, and they knew that I wouldn't wear
a mask, and they're terrified. So I did that. I
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was obedient to my priest. I did not go into
the sanctuary. Anyways, my point regarding this, I know Father
Peter Hears, I know he's a good man. I know
his heart's in the right place. It's unfortunate the circumstance
surrounding his bishop and his priesthood within the church. But
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he's also knowing, and Father Peter would tell you this.
He's also dove into some controversial topics within the Orthodox world.
So not everybody's going to see eye to eye. Typically
people who are frustrated, at least my experience, my experience
with priests that don't like Father Peter heres. It usually
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surrounds his insistence on baptism, which you know, I recommend
being obedient to whatever your priest says, but I personally
am in the camp that we don't recognize the sacraments
of other faiths, and so if you're Protestant or Catholic,
you become Orthodox, you should get rebaptized. That's just my
personal opinion. I did a stream with Father Peter covering
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his book that was published through Uncut Mountain Press on
that topic, and you know, I think it's good, especially
if you're a Catechuman. Don't be so polarized by any
one opinion of your priest or the church you're in.
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You know, you listen. You know, if if you already
a fan of Father Peter, here's yeah, go ahead and
listen to Orthodox ethos. If you know that your priest
maybe doesn't like Father Peter. Okay, that's fine. We're all human.
We don't believe our priests are perfect. Father Peter is
not perfect. I'm not perfect. There's there's people, there's priests
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that don't like my channel. I've met priests that don't
like Jay Dyer. I know Jay Dyer. Jay Dyer is
a good friend of mine. I will defend Jay Dyer
no matter what controversy he's in because I know him personally.
He's a good friend. Same with Andrew Wilson. I know
him personally. I was there at the baptism of him
Rachel and their their daughters. Andrew gets some controversy, I'm
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never gonna you know, that's my friend. So just recognize that.
You know, like I've met with priests that don't like
Dire or Father Peter heres and yet they had also
insightful things to say. So Eric Vinchelin said, Jay Dyer
is my best friend. So just you know, don't don't
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let any one opinion totally color your perception of orthodoxy
or question your parish. In my opinion, the way that
I approached it when I was coming into the church
is that it's providence. If that's the church you're in,
it's providence. It's providence in the sense that maybe you
have a priest that has opinions that you don't fully
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accord with, or maybe you see you have a difference
of opinion and that's okay, finding obedience under somebody you
don't agree with, that's part of your spiritual growth. That's
how I look at it. So you know, just just
have just give grace to pe people and recognize there's
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a generational difference here. Like Father Peter heres is aware
of these generational differences and he's participating in the younger generation.
He's on YouTube, he's creating content. You know, you and
I if you're watching this stream like where if you're
if your priest is like a sixty year old boomer,
you know, like give him some grace. He doesn't fully
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understand or participate in the things that we're all participating
in here. So that'd be my recommendation. Is it a
red flag? It's a red flag in the sense, okay
you know where your priest stands. Is it a red
flag in the sense you shouldn't join that church. No,
unless unless you've gone to other parishes and you have
a better priest. But if you're already a catechumb in there,
finish out your catechisas as long as the katakisas is good,
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as long as they're not as long as they're not
like openly progressive on certain issues or not upholding the
historic faith. If they're not upholding the historic faith, and
leave if they're doing the best they can. And your
priest has a difference of opinion on Father Peter Hears,
and maybe he's listened to some of the the rumors
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online and you know, so for example, again with Father
Peter Heres, Father Josiah Trinham is an Antiochian priest, Father
Josiah Trinam, I have never heard a single Antiochian priest
the fame or say negative things about Father Josiah. Father
Josiah stands up and defends Father Peter Hears. So you know,
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ask your priest if he liked Father Josiah Trinam. If
he says, yeah, I love Father Josiah Trinam, say okay, well,
I was watching an interview with Father Josiah Trinam and
Father Peter Hears they were together, and see how he
takes that, see how he approaches it. That that would
kind of be my approach. So thank you for the support, Enzo,
and glory to God for being a catechuman man. Don't
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don't let again. We're not perfect, and I think that's
part of the problem with some of the people that
are taking coming to Orthodoxy online. Not you and Zo.
I'm not saying you in particular, but you know, don't
come to the Orthodox Church trying to find perfection because
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that's not what you're gonna find. What you're gonna find
is a divine, grace filled mystery in which your participation
in it is going to make you closer to Christ
through forcing to deal with people that maybe you I'm
not talking about your priest or anything, but when you
join a parish, you know, not everybody in the parish
is going to be your best friend. That's okay. Being
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able to learn to love them and form fellowship and
bonds and brotherly bonds with people that, yeah, maybe you
wouldn't normally hang out with, that's part of the spiritual growth.
So that's what I would I would recommend. I hope
that's useful. Tara sponsored today stream says my son is
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learning a lot and says, well, God bless you brother.
Thank you again, Tara for you and your son supporting today,
I truly, truly do appreciate it. No face kill us,
he says, inquiries be like this church has pews. Red flag. Yeah,
you know, just take it easy, you know, take it easy.
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Orthodoxy is a journey, and don't you know, don't especially
if you're new to the faith, don't like put your
priest up to an examination to see how orthodoxy is.
If there's outright stuff that's not orthodox, if he's talking,
you know, if he's bringing politics into his homilies, if
he's like very soft on certain issues, if there's things
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that are really concerning you. Yeah, then okay, maybe you
need to talk with another Orthodox clergy member, maybe in
a different diocese, maybe at a different parish, and see
what advice they give you. But if you think he's
a good man and maybe he just has a wrong
opinion about something, don't leave your church. But no face
kill you always have hilarious shit, dude. So anyways, that's
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kind of my opinion about that. Yeah, all of us
have errors. Just know that exactly all of us have errors,
I agree, not a red flag, but if it bothers,
you just ask the priest to be more specific exactly.
That's and that's the point is build some relationships. So
if you're if your priest doesn't like Father Peter Hears,
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ask him why if it has to do with the
bishop controversy, look into that. Father Peter's already discussed that online.
You can say, okay, well, well what I heard him
say was this. You don't argue with your priest, but
you can just ask him and inquire into into, you know,
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what it is he doesn't like. And then if he
liked Father Josiah, say well, I love Father Josiah and
he seems to really be friends with in supportive of
Father Peter Hears. See what your priest says about that. Uh,
Beast Preacher says, I'm on my fourth priest because the
first two were soft on issues, like you said, and
the third was just all over the place in a
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good way. I'm now on my fourth, who is Romanian. Interesting? Well, uh,
you know, to each their own, I do think, and
I'm not talking about you specifically, break Base Preacher, but again,
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assuming Base Preacher is absolutely right and is doing the
right thing, Okay, push that to the side. I will
just make a comment about American converts is don't view
orthodoxy as total church shopping. If you're already a catechhuman,
like if you're inquiring, go to all the different parishes.
That's what my recommendation is. If you're you know, if
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you have three or four parishes in driving distance, go
to all those parishes. View the community, see if it's
a type of community you want to join. Maybe there's
other young people your age. Maybe one doesn't have young people,
maybe one has a bunch of young families, and you're
a single man, You're like, Okay, well this is kind
of the community I want to belong in. And then
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talk with the priest. That's my biggest thing is I
if you're an inquirer, go to different parishes, talk to
the priests and then make sure that the priest is
on the same page that you are. And if they are,
then go to that parish and talk to the priests.
Say hey, I'm an inquirer. I've been learning this, I've
been diving into Orthodoxy. I think I believe it's the
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true church and one of the things I wanted to join,
but I just wanted to make sure that I was
part of a parish that, you know, was upholding the faith.
I still have a lot to learn. That's the biggest,
biggest turn off the priest is young men that come
to the church who are inquirers and are trying to
educate them about theology. So don't challenge the priest. You
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can ask probing questions to kind of see what their
sentiments are and just go from there. So that that
would be my recommend. Tara says, my church has pews,
and our priests has quoted Father Peter heres and homilies.
They did take the back row out to make room
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for all the new people. Exactly. That's a thank you, Tara,
because it highlights that, yes, okay, people feel a lot
of the Greek churches have pews. People feel that the
pews are a modern innovation, and that must mean it's
not as Orthodox. Well, it depends on the priest. It
depends on the parish. I've gone to Ocia parishes and
Greek parishes, which again those dioceses are kind of have
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the reputation of being liberal, and they were incredible priests.
They were super based, they got it all, they were
totally on the right page. So, uh, just find the
priest that you're willing to submit to and then and
then submit and just submit to the whole journey, you know,
don't constantly try to defend yourself or like, uh, you know,
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well this church has better aesthetics. Don't do that. My
church has no good aesthetics. But I love that and
I'll stay committed to that parish because of the community
and the people. So just you know, just be wise
in regards to the inquiry. Kid, Kingdom throws in five,
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thank you so much, says hey, Dph, it's happening. My
husband will be baptized in the church this Saturday. Glory
to God, Kingdom Kid. She she messaged me or she
sent a super chat probably. I mean, what was it, Kingdom, Kidd,
two years ago that you were you were getting into
Orthodoxy and you were frustrated that your husband wasn't as
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excited about it as you were. And I just told
I just said to pray for him. Because I've done
one on ones I know of at least at least
personal conversations I've had with people, and one on ones
least five or six times, probably more, but five or
six times I can recount. We're in Kingdom Kids, a
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little bit different because it's actually the wife that was
getting into Orthodoxy before the husband. That's actually a unique one.
All the cases I talked to were men married, getting
becoming Christian and coming back to Christianity and then finding Orthodoxy, saying,
Orthodoxy's it. I got to become Orthodox and then their
wives are not interested at all. And in fact, one
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guy said, like, she thinks it's a cult, and she
got upset just because he had another body come over
to read the Bible, like do a lot a small
Bible study with and she's like, oh, it's like a cult.
And I my only advice, and this is the advice
of the church is really isn't my advice. I'm not
the voice here, But just pray for them privately. Pray
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for them, make them part of your prayer.
Speaker 3 (03:44:42):
Rule.
Speaker 2 (03:44:42):
If your spouse is not interested in Orthodoxy, has no interest,
pray for them privately. Do not tell them you're praying
for them that they'll become Orthodox. Do not tell them that.
Do it privately for an extended period of time. I
talked the most incredible story, and I'll share this one.
The most incredible story related to this was a man
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that I talked to from Finland who was an atheist.
He was a lifelong atheist. His parents were atheists. He
told me in a one on one, and so I
did a one on one with him, and he was
like getting into Orthodoxy. This is during the COVID, after
all the COVID stuff, and he was really red pilled.
He was an atheist, but he was deep on the
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conspiracy stuff and so he wasn't gonna he saw through
it wasn't gonna capitulate. And then he saw on orthodox
He found my stuff in Jay Dyers and saw that
we were familiar with all the conspiracy stuff, and then
we were Orthodox Christians. And he was like, how the
heck are they Orthodox Christians. I'm an atheist, and so
he kept watching content. Then he slowly became more convinced
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of Orthodoxy. We did a one on one. I talked
to him about how to pray. He had never prayed
before in his life. He knew no Christians, none of
his family members were Christian, none of his friends were Christian.
And so him getting interested in Orthodoxy. He was the
only person. And he had a longtime girlfriend that he
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had been living with. They weren't married yet and they
were both atheists. She, because of him, became red pilled
on the COVID stuff, but definitely didn't want anything to
do with the Christianity. We talked again. I told him
to pray for her, told him just go on your journey.
Did not force it on her. Just go on your
journey and develop and grow personally and let her see
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the transformation of you. And he told me last time
I talked to him, which was probably two years ago,
and so if I'm not going to say his name,
but if your watching, brother, update me on your life.
I'd love to know what's going on. He started to
go to an Orthodox church in Finland, I think it
was ro Core and he said he was blown away.
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He went there. It was a full parish. This was
right out. I think this is twenty twenty one, twenty
twenty two. Everybody was red pilled on COVID and he
just was blown away that it was a community of
people that already saw the world that he did, and
that his all his atheist friends that were his age,
because he was like, he's a younger guy like us.
They were all in favor of the COVID stuff, and
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they were making fun of him and his girlfriend because
they wouldn't go along with any of it. Well, he
told me he started to go to church. Then he
was started to buy Orthodox books, and then he started
to read the Bible, and his girlfriend eventually allowed him
to read the Bible to her, and he said one
day she came home and to his surprise, she asked him,
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I mean this is where this was the animosity. He
had to get off the one on one I believe
the first time because she was getting ready to come
home and he didn't want her to know that he
was talking to me about Orthodox Christian And that was
the first time I talked to him. And this last
time I talked to him, he said, I was just
sitting there and she came home and she told me, hey,
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can you read the Bible? I feel the most piece
Because again Finland COVID big time lockdown craziness going on.
She said, I feel the most peace whenever I hear
you read the scripture. And I think that is a mystery, right,
That is the way this stuff works. This man was
going on his own journey, totally isolated. None of the
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people in his community understood the journeys going on. The
only people that understood it were the people at the
parish she started to go to, which there's not that
many in Finland, and through that and then reading scripture,
it changed her heart. And then after that she wanted
to go to church with me. So that's what I mean.
Just just pray for people. Don't argue with your spouse
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about it. Let them see the fruits of your own transformation.
And I just like I said, five or six examples
I've talked to you. They were all men, so Kingdom
kids a little bit different because she's the wife. But
five or six examples I know of of men that
did this where they just prayed for their girlfriend or
their wife. Typically they were already married before they became Orthodox,
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without them knowing. Do not tell your spouse you're praying
for them. And then eventually all of a sudden. There's
another instance with a guy who was married and she
just said, can you, you know what, can you tell
me a little bit more about Orthodoxy? Out of nowhere?
Out of nowhere his wife. This is a different gentleman.
This is not the guy from Finland. Totally different guy.
This was in the US and he was blown away
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and we did another one on one. He's like, dude,
I couldn't believe it. I've been praying for her. I
think he said like four months, four or five months
at that point, and she just came to me randomly
one day and asked me to begin to explain stuff
to her. And I'm just saying, that's the way to
approach it. Yeah, women are much harder to convince. I
recommend if your wife is not convinced. Ideally, you're in
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a community with a lot of young people, because I
know for women, if there's other women their age at
the church that they can actually build friendships with, it's
like a g light. It's okay. I mean if you're
if your wife or girlfriend has never been exposed to
Orthodox or had never been a Christian, the the real
the gateway for women is that they find other women
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that already believe it, especially if they're like I talked
with one guy and his his wife was like a
t trad stay at home wife, but they weren't Orthodox.
He was Orthodox. He was becoming Orthodox. And what converted
her was when she went to the church there was
all these other trad home wife moms there and they
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were all Orthodox. And then she like, oh, wow, all
these women view the world the same way I do
and they're all Orthodox Christians. And because of that. She
then participated in the community and then now you know,
the whole family has been baptized. So it's a journey.
It's a journey. Sorry, that was a long winded answer.
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I apologize. But glory to God Kingdom. Kid, that's great,
that is great. I'm so happy for you. Now only
are two adult sons left. Here's the next generation. Glory
to God. I think that's fantastic. No face kill us, says,
your priest actually went to college for this stuff. It's
not like debating non to non pastor Billy Bob. Have
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few have knowledge, but fewer have wisdom exactly. And I've
talked with priests that I have differences of opinion. If
it's not dogma, it's okay to have a difference of opinion. Okay,
so there's opinions my priest has that I don't uphold,
and it's okay, it's not dogma. He has a difference.
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But they do go through seminary to be an Orthodox priest.
I mean they'd go through an arduous education to know
the liturgy, to know the vestments, to know the liturgical calendar,
to know the theology and the history. So just be
a little bit humble. Whenever you are broke when you
inquire the Orthodox, just be a little bit humble and
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just know that, Okay, I may not see totally eye
to eye with him, but it's providence as long as
as long as it's not like super soft progressive stuff.
If it violates dogma, or if it's like really soft, yeah,
go to a different church. But for the American mind,
don't be don't allow consumerism to infiltrate your journey in
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the Orthodox Church where you're just totally church shopping. I
talked with one guy and he had been a catechuman
at like four or five different churches. It's like, dude,
what are you doing? And in his in his mind
and his pride, oh, I'm just trying to find the
right priest because this priest had this opinion and according
to this thing that the church father said here, and
you know in seventeen and seven hundred, you know, he
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doesn't agree with it. And it's like, dude, so you're
telling me, because of your pride of Orthodox theology, you're
not even in a you're not even in the church
yet you've been a catechumen at four or five different parishes. Bro,
do you not see the pattern here. So and then
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Enzo followed up and said, thanks for the advice. Is
my priest not wanting to baptize me because I was
baptized Catholic a big issue? Or is just chrismation?
Speaker 8 (03:53:11):
Fine?
Speaker 2 (03:53:12):
Again, Honestly, I am not here to give you spiritual advice.
I am not a priest, I am not clergy. So
whatever I say, do not perceive this as me having
some type of authoritative stance. I defer to all Orthodox
clergy over me. I would say, I personally do believe.
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And Father Peter here is arguing on the validity of
Orthodox baptism being a different sacrament, and that we do
not all we do not believe that any of the
other sacraments at the Catholic Church. If we don't believe
there Eu Christ is real, obviously, thether baptism isn't real
from our perspective. Now, with that being said, if your
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priest wants to chrismate you, then okay, jayder is Chris maated.
Is Jay Dire not Orthodox? Of course he is. Of course,
he is one of the other the best Orthodox apologists
we have. The economy of the Holy Spirit is going
to fill everything that you feel might be absent. Okay,
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so you are fully if you're only chrismated, in the
economy of the Holy Spirit will fill anything that is absent,
so you are not missing on any of the mysteries. Now,
with that being said, if you go to Mount Athos,
or you go to Saint Anthony's in Arizona, they will
ask you if you're baptized. If you say, I'm only chrismated,
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they will perform a baptism right then and there so
that you can then enter into the monastery and the
temple and stuff. So do with that, what you will
do with that, what you will corrective. Baptisms are a
very controversial topic in the Orthodox Church. It's not an
heard of. If you're chrismated and then you go get
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a baptism because you wanted a baptism and your pre
refuse to give you a baptism, it's not unheard of.
And I will defer to your spiritual father and just
defer to your own spiritual discernment on what you need
to do. Id bro Throws in twenty says, thanks, thank
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you very much, brother, thank you for the support. Red
Fox throws another ten great tangent. You're speaking to exactly
what I'm going through with my wife. Thank you for
all that you do well. Thank you Red Fox for
all that you do for me and the support you
give me. Brother, I truly appreciate that. Thank you. Let
me see if there's any other questions on here.
Speaker 8 (03:55:46):
I'm not seeing any.
Speaker 2 (03:55:57):
Feeling called out. We're gonna fight jokes aside. The first
two priests for me were sus to say the least,
while the third was simply spread too thin. And that's fine.
I was a base preacher. I do not want to
feel like I'm attacked. I do not know your context, brother,
I would never Everything is context dependent. So don't feel
like I'm calling you out, based preacher. I am not
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calling you out again. If they were, if they were
a progressive priest and you found a good priest, now
you found your home. You found your home, and I
recommend everybody that's why. You got to find a good priest.
And then it doesn't matter the jurisdiction, right if you
have a great priest and he's Greek Orthodox or o
c A. Okay, So what I do like the Antiochian Diocese,
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I do like ro Corp. You know, do with that
what you will. Father Hans Hans Jacobsey is Antiochian. Father's
Trenam's Antiochian. I think Father Zacharya Lynch is Antiochy. I'm
not positive though, I think, but a lot of great
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priests online are Antiochian. What what's the parish, what's the
diocese of of Father Paul? What was it Truanbach, what's
uh that might be? I'm not sure. Maybe some of
you guys know that might be Antiochian. So based preacher,
I'm not calling you out, brother, I promise God bless
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you in your journey as well, and if you found
your the right priest. Yeah, Father Paul is Antiochian. I
like the Antiochian art. And now we have met Metropolitan
Saba who is from Lebanon and he's very based on
the Zionism question and Patriarch John of the Antio of
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Antioch his brother was killed by Zionists. So and the
Antiochian arch diocese. I mean, we're in the Book of Acts, right,
that's the founding of our church. So that's one of
the cool things that I think is for an American convert.
And I'm not telling you to choose Antiochian arch Diocese.
Speaker 3 (03:58:16):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (03:58:17):
I'm not. You choose the priest that fits you, you
find the paris that fits you. I would just say,
because there's so few Arabic speakers in the United States,
almost all the Antiochian liturgies are in all English. And
it's a historic church, which gives an American you know
what is American identity? We don't really have an identity.
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That's the problem with modernity right now. Being Antiochian gives
you some type of historical rootedness that, oh wow, I
belong to that church right there in acts where people
are first called Christians. That's cool. It's a little cool
caveat But ro Corps. Everything that I've seen from ro
Corp is pretty pretty solid. No core Antiochian.
Speaker 8 (03:59:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:59:03):
The Serbians, the Serbian Serbian Orthodoxy is fantastic. If you
if you, if you're at a Serbian parish, like, the
Serbs are great. The Serbs get it. The Serbs get it.
That's Holy Trinity. Father Russell and Montana and Butte Montana
shout out to Father, Deacon, doctor and and Ice. They're Serbian.
Serbs are fantastic. If you have a Serbian so I
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would say, the ro Corps, the Serbs, the Antiochians, those
those are quality. They're all quality. They're all quality. Oca Greek.
Just find the parish and and the priest for you.
Tara says, this stream has made my son hate Carthaginians
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even more than he already did as a Roman Empire appreciator.
I love that. Ah. You have a good boy there, Tara,
a good Roman soldier. Uh with the chi row on
his armor. Right we're talking post Constantine Rome right here.
He's a good Byzantine Roman soldier. God bless your son.
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And Enzo throws in another ten. Thank you for the help, Dph, Well,
thank you guys for the support. I truly appreciate it.
So agreed. On the Serbian Orthodox, Yeah, the Serbs are fantastic.
I love the Serbian church. Brady Harvey says, I'm glad
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I haven't been baptized by Heterodox so I don't have
to worry about that. Exactly. You'll be baptized when you're
brought in. That's that's amazing. Id bro throws intent, says
Father Borgin and Matuska Ellen in Pennsylvania. Holy Resurrection is
Serbian great content. Exactly, I know, absolutely absolutely id bro
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so real corps. I mean there they all have good priests. Obviously,
with LP de Fourros at the head of the go
arch is problematic OCA supporting black lives matters and the
protests and this, you know, the Summer of Love where
they burned down American cities. To me, that is problematic
at the hierarchical level. But I said, I found fantastic priests,
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fantastic parishes in those dioceses. If they'll, if you find one,
stay there, that would be my only thought about that.
And again, I'm not clergy. I don't want to condemn
any clergy. I'm not here to critique clergy. I'm just
a lay person who studies theology, and if anything, at
least for my priests, I'm more of an educator. I'm
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an Orthodox teacher, but I am not clergy, and I
do not give spiritual advice. No Father Turbo is in
real cord Now, Father Turbo's Antiochian. That's another Antiochian priest.
Father Turbo's Antiochian, I believe, no father he might be Serbian.
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Is Father Turbo Serbian or Antiochian? I'm not sure. Maybe
he's real Corps. I'm pretty sure he's Antiochian, though I'm
not sure. I'm not positive on Father Turbo's diocese, but
I love Father Turbou. God bless Father Turbo and his
parish and all the work he's doing. God bless you.
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He's Serb, Okay, he's Serbian. Okay, well, some people say
real corps. Maybe he is. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
I'm not gonna make a definitive the statement on that.
I'm not positive. I think I think he's Serbian too.
I'm beginning to think he's Serbian. The more I think
about it. Yeah, Now, the more I think about it,
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he is Serbian. He is Serbian. Yeah, I'm pretty sure
his parish is Serbian. No, I think you're right, Tara, Yeah, yeah,
well you got Father Turbo's or Yeah, that's what I
just sit and think about it. He was he was
at Montanica, And the more I began to reflect, the
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more I realized he was talking about a trip to
Serbia one time. And of course Montanica is sort of
officiated by by the Serbian dioce diocese, so it's a
Serbian bishop that overlooks Montanica. That Father Deacon Doctrine ayas does.
And now that I think about it, I do believe.
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I'm I'm, I'm I'm basically ninety percent positive that Father
Turbo Serbian. Yeah, okay, vil Saint Mary of Egypt is
a Serbian Orthodox dice exactly. Okay, so we we solve
the mystery. Father Turbo is Serbian. Again, that's my point.
Serbs are great, Serbs are fantastic. So anyways, guys, that's
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gonna do it for me. It doesn't look like we
have any more questions, and I am going to get
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I will see you guys tomorrow. Thank you all so
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God bless you you good Roman soldier, you and your
animosity towards the Carthaginians.
Speaker 8 (04:05:23):
I resonate with that.
Speaker 2 (04:05:25):
You know, Hannibal was a good general though, right even
though we were you know, we're not fond of Carthage,
Hannibal was a pretty pretty good general. I mean, I
do recommend tell your son, with the perspective of the
animosity of Carthaginians, go check out like History of March
or Kings in Generals and look at Hannibal's conquest through Rome.
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Pretty pretty impressive, you know, very impressive, so quality general.
Not a fan of the Carthaginians, not a fan of
the Phoenician religion and the bail worship and child sacrifice,
but he agrees Hannibal was a fantastic general. Yeah, he was.
All right, guys, I will see you guys, God willing
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tomorrow and thank you all so much as always until then,
God bless