Drama Alert: Whatever Appearance, Trump Israel, MAGA Split, Ortho Mel Gibson?

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hell. All right, Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is
David Patrick Carey with Church of the Eternal Logos, and
today we have a bit of a relaxed stream. We're
gonna be going over my experience on the Whatever podcast.

(00:30):
For those of you who didn't know, last week, we
flew my wife and I to Santa Barbara, California to
do a debate with a determinist and then I did
a nine hour dating panel. So we're gonna discuss a
little bit about my experience. I'm curious for anybody who
saw those two episodes what your guys' thoughts were. I

(00:53):
think overall went pretty well, but we'll discuss that. And
then I got some just generic new stuff. I wanted
to dive into kind of this continuing feud between Elon
and Donald Trump. That's one of the things that I
got lined up, multiple things from X and things online
to maybe bring up and discuss regarding that stuff. Mel

(01:16):
Gibson is on Mount Athos, So for those of you
who don't know, Mel Gibson the director of the Passion
of the Christ. He is a traditional Catholic. Last I
heard and his appearance on Joe Rogan sounds like he's
more of a set of a contest somebody who doesn't
believe that the current papacy is legitimate. And he's not

(01:39):
that far away removed from Orthodoxy. And so the rumor is,
and I do have an article, we're not going to
read it. We'll just look at it kind of talk
about it. But rumor is that Mel Gibson, in pursuit
of the Resurrection, the sequel to Passion of the Christ,
has found some religious inspiration on his experience on my Athos.

(02:00):
So very interesting development there, and we'll be talking about
the latest MAGA split. So you know, when I was
actually live during my debate, the US went ahead and
bombed Iran. So I figured something that we need to
discuss and catch up a little bit on is the
US Israeli war on Iran. For those of you who

(02:24):
want to say that the US isn't at war, we
certainly are, despite Trump talking about a twelve day war
and the US being victorious and our bunker Boss bunker
busters from B two bombers. So we'll discuss a little
bit about that, and you know, just some some cultural
things that are occurring. So how many of you guys

(02:47):
end up checking out the whatever podcast. I got the
the one of the dating panels, the video pulled up here.
Let me pull up all my stuff real quick, I
having even done that yet. So here's the dating panel
I was on, and we'll talk a little bit about that,

(03:07):
and we could cover the debate if you guys won
at least a little bit. I it was kind of
frustrating and irritating, and I hopped on at the end Jimbob,
so major, major shout out to Jim Bob and meg Bob, actually,
so the whole Jimbob crew over there, and shout out
to James. You know, I haven't hopped on here actually

(03:29):
since I got back. And when I got back from
Santa Barbara, I just felt so exhausted. For those of
you that have been following the channel, you guys know
that through January, February, March, I was really really working
hard to try to finish my dissertation before April first,
and then prepared for my defense the beginning of May,

(03:51):
and then went out to Santa Barbara and June. It
just felt like it was one thing after another, one
thing after another, and I just came home and crash.
So I planned on coming home and doing one of
these update streams and talking about my experience and kind
of getting your guys' feedback. But I was just when
I got home from California, I was just burnt out.

(04:12):
I was just ready to not do anything. I really
didn't do much of anything basically the following days. Oh,
Chase Haggard. Shout out to Chase, mister Haggard. By the way,
So for those of you who don't know, I was
actually able to attend Chase's beautiful Orthodox wedding in Milwaukee
with his beautiful bride, and so I was able to

(04:34):
be there actually with the Wilsons, Andrew and Rachel, and
also the Jim Bobs, Jim and Meg and so we
had a great time. We had so much fun hanging
out with Chase and the crew over there in Milwaukee.
It was you know. I talked with Jimbob afterwards privately,
and he actually mentioned it a little bit in the

(04:55):
review of the debate because I Jimbob again. Shout out
to Jimbob. He actually streamed my debates and my dating
appearance while at the Whatever podcast. Major appreciation to him.
We're gonna put a little little care package together for
the Jim Bob family in appreciation for they're great people

(05:15):
and they're great friends, and yeah, I really appreciate him. Anyways,
he took over the channel for a couple of nights,
and at the end of the debate he was still live,
so I was in the live chat, and by the
time I got back to the hotel, Jimbobb was still live,
so I hopped on and reviewed a bit of it
with him. But Chase, we had such a good time, man,

(05:36):
God bless you and your wife, and really excited for
all the memories and the next get together. We have
always a fun time. But Chase said that the debate
wasn't obliteration. Your opponent was incoherent and couldn't follow it all.
And that's how I felt like the debate. And let
me pull it up. We're looking at the dating panel,
and I'll discuss my experience with the dating panel. So

(06:01):
here's the debate. You see, it only has ninety five
thousand views. I again, out of all times while I'm
live doing my debate, the US bombs ran. Hardly anybody
was watching the debate anymore, and everybody for the next
few days was all talking about Israel Iran war. Us

(06:21):
involvement all that different stuff. So the exposure kind of
got nuked on my debate. But to Chase's point, when
I was going through, so we did opening statements. We
get there, so I get to the studio in Santa Barbara,
we're waiting outside to be let into the studio. We

(06:42):
get let in eventually, and everything's you know, going good.
We're getting prepped or kind of giving us the overview
of what to expect during the whole thing. And he said,
do you guys want to do opening statements or not?
And I said, yeah, I planned on doing an opening
statement because I actually had like a logical argument for

(07:03):
free will here. And obviously I knew appealing to scripture
was not gonna be the best game plan, So pulling
out a bunch of Bible quotes or making the foundation
of my argument theological in nature wasn't really gonna go
anywhere with she Again, if you saw some of her TikTok,
she claimed like she's an atheist determinists hard determinist but

(07:25):
then in the debate she claims that she's agnostic. She's
not an atheist, and that was kind of the trend, right.
She never wanted to fully adopt a position, I think
because she knew I knew the positions, and then I
could like pin her down on something. But I wanted
an opening debate because I actually laid out In fact,

(07:46):
I had my notes here, you guys can see. I
laid out seven arguments. These are just bullet points. It's
a point and a subpoint. That's kind of how I
always do my notes. The main point and then you know, one, two,
maybe three sub points on free will and if the
world was determinist or deterministic or determined predetermined, how there's

(08:08):
all these logical problems. And so my seven points were
the moral responsibility argument. Obviously, if everything is determined, then
nobody can be held responsible or morally responsible for anything
they do, which is ironic because Ginny helped me out
with some of the research. My wife and so she
went on Zena's TikTok and went through all of her

(08:29):
her stuff and was able to tell me like, hey, hey,
this is some of the topics. So then I went
through the ones that she highlighted and watched it and
she's like pro reparations, you know, anti white pro blm.
You know, white people are guilty for patriarchy. She was
critical of black girl beauty industry because it's too eurocentric

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and anyways, you get it. The whole rigama role that
you know, essentially, essentially does you know, is built upon
this premise of guilt or justice or some type of responsibility,
I mean, obviously reparations is so my thought the first,
first kill shot is that she can't even have a

(09:11):
worldview that allows for moral responsibility. And so that was
my first one. If determinism is true, no one can
be held morally responsible, pretty you know, clear cut. Second
one was the argument from rationality. So if the world
is determined, it also calls into question the know ability
of the world and the utilism instrumental utilization of reason,

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because if determinism is true, then all knowledge are beliefs,
and determinism therefore is not based on a rational assessment
of the facts. But the person spouting determinism is already
predetermined to do so, and therefore is built on itself
a personal assumption and belief. And she even agreed that

(09:54):
it was like she was her whole worldview was an
assumption based on her experience, okay, and then she didn't
even know what a universal truth claim was I mean
the I mean, obviously, when I went on there, I
know that whatever podcast is not you guys and my audience,
and my audience it would already be familiar with my
arguments and the things that I'd be talking about, and

(10:16):
I didn't want to speak over the whatever podcast audience
or at least the general people, because you know, my
approach to a debate is more about the arguments. I mean,
I can get into the blood sports stuff and the
name calling and you know, a little bit more aggressive,
but I think it's at least a little bit more
useful when people can make coherent arguments and go back

(10:37):
and forth with the arguments. And I already assumed that
she'd be pretty sassy based on her tiktoks, and she
certainly was. But yeah, the she really wouldn't engage with
any of my arguments, and I wanted to dumb it down.
I mean, before the thing even began, he was Brian

(10:58):
was talking about Brian was a nice guy. He was
talking about things that were not allowed to talk about.
And so he said, you know, if any minor attractive
person came up to use PDF file and I said, okay,
and I said, what about pedirass, and he got he
turned to goes, I don't know what that is. I
go A pederass I mean essentially means the same thing
as a pedo, and he goes, wow, okay, well I

(11:20):
don't know. I would just use pdf file because I
don't think most people know what that word means. I
was like, okay, so the goal to like dumb down
everything and try to keep it two to three syllables long,
so people, you know, that's just not how I speak.
And so even during the dating panel, then we can
talk about that. Uh. I was actually very surprised how

(11:45):
receptive those women were regarding talking about talking about theology
and all those different things. I mean I was talking.
I was, you know, being very straightforward on what they
were doing and why it was wrong, talking about out
they're sexual proclivities, being porn stars and no f girls sin,

(12:07):
how they're killing themselves, how degrading and demoralizing it is
for society. And after I mean I felt like after
like two hours into it, and I pushed back on
most what they're saying. I mean, they pretty much agreed.
They just said, yeah, that we're just making our own choices.
But they were I mean, very receptive for the things
I had to say. I was surprised. Gorilla Biscuits throws

(12:29):
in five dollars, Thank you so much, brother for the support.
Just throws an Orthodox cross. God bless you, Guerrilla Biscuits
and beyond. Saraphim throws in twenty bucks. Thank you so much, brother,
he says, great work on whatever. Glad you were there
to represent Orthodox. He glory to God. Yeah, and I
Brian asked me to come back in the future, so
I'm sure there will be another appearance in the future

(12:51):
and looking forward to the opportunity. It's certainly a different forum,
different context than what I usually do, but I think
you was ultimately pretty successful. Let me see if anybody
and guys, if you'd like to support my work, would
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(13:13):
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greatly appreciate that, and I know the community loves it
and helps everyone out. So running through my arguments here,

(13:34):
So the First two, I undercut her ability to have
any sort of moral responsibility or justice. Second one, any
sort of know ability of the world. And then the
phenomenological argument is basically just saying that determinists don't act
like determinists because they operate and work in societies that
presume the existence of free will. And I highlighted activities

(13:55):
that presume the existence of free will voting, which she
didn't really really answer, voting, debating promises, regret, deliberation, guilt.
These are things that I thought of that even people
who claim to be determinists still engage in. And so
one of the contradictory arguments is the phenomenological argument that
phenomenologically determinists don't even act or act in the world

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based on the premises that they espouse. And then number
four is the argument from the counterfactual possibility all decisions
presuppose modal freedom. When evaluating alternative possibilities, determinists rely on
what could have been, such as in legal and ethical situations.
So you know, could why would a determinists ever sue
anybody or use the legal system, because obviously that would

(14:43):
presuppose modal freedom that somebody could have made a decision
a different way and there would have been a different outcome.
It violates the very premises of determinism. And then neuroscience
misinterpretation argument. I knew she was going to go there again.
I looked at up all that research because I figured
I figured it was going to be more heavy. Her

(15:03):
argument was going to be more heavy on the neuroscience.
And it really wasn't it felt. I mean, her argument
was essentially that I'm Christian. God knows what decisions I'm
going to make in the future. Therefore I believe in determinism.
That was essentially her argument because she wouldn't deal with
any of mine. And that's where I was gonna say.

(15:24):
Where she lost the argument is the first one she
said that logic isn't isn't evidence? Yeah, yeah, it is.
Do you know what the premise of a debate is? Absolutely,
it's evidence. That's how you demonstrate whether an argument is

(15:45):
fallacious or not. And what was the other thing? She
didn't want to get into morality at all? And there
was something else I was going to say where she
lost the argument. Oh, she didn't even know what a
universal truth was. She asked me. I love this tactic, though,

(16:06):
I mean, it was clever on her to ask me
questions that actually she didn't have the answers to, so
I would answer it for her but present it as
if I'm the dumb one. So I talked about a
universal truth. Her face kind of was stunned. I could
tell she didn't know exactly what I was talking about.
She goes, universal truth, you mean an absolute truth? And
I go, yeah, it's the same thing. You don't even

(16:27):
know the difference between an absolute truth and an ultimate truth.
They're the same thing. What are you talking about? And
it's like she didn't know that they're the same thing,
and so she put it on me like I'm the
dumb one. It's a good rhetorical tactic. But once she
again she didn't even she didn't even know what some
of the words I was using meant. That's kind of
the level. And she is a USC senior in college

(16:52):
who's basically a sophist. She believes in determinism, has all
these really strong opinions about reparations and all this different
stuff cultural issues, eurocentrism in the makeup industry. But you
know her ability to actually argue, I mean, she went

(17:12):
she told me that she wanted to be a lawyer,
which makes sense, right, So she's there just to argue,
just to talk, and and she is articulate, and she
talks really fast. I mean, she'll give Ben Shapiro a
run for his money. And so I think the better tactic.
I mean, anybody who is able to follow the debate
knows that I wanted the debate in the opening statements
because her argu I mean, she had nowhere to go.

(17:34):
And then obviously within the first half of the debate
was already over. But I think one of the better
tactics was just probing and asking her questions and getting
her to answer things, which I did of the second
half of the debate and essentially get her to violate
her own her own reason. And so one of them
was I knew that she would I well, I was
hoping that she anthropologically would define humans as mechanisms, and

(17:59):
so so during the second point, I asked her in
a sort of leading question, as if I'm trying to
steal man her position, I would say, you know, it's
based on everything that I'm hearing. I mean, it sounds
like and I'm curious if you would use this rhetoric
that essentially through the input output mechanism, humans are essentially
a mechanism themselves. And then she responded It was probably

(18:22):
like three to five minutes, and essentially she agrees, Yeah,
humans are mechanisms, And I go, great, can you rape
a typewriter because that is a mechanism that's purely based
on input and output? And obviously the answer is no,
because you can't violate the consensual will of the typewriter.
And in that sense, it totally defeats any argument she

(18:44):
would make against the patriarchy, against you know, saying sexual harassment,
this type of stuff. So I think that was probably
one of the better routes rhetorically is that was basically
the second half of the debate. So I thought she
was going to do more neuroscience, So I like looked
up all the neuroscience. I looked up some of the

(19:05):
latest research. I think it helped me because some of
the people that probably aren't as philosophically sophisticated felt that
I knew the neuroscience more than she did, at least
from some of the comments I was looking at. So
I think it's beneficial to dive into that. But I
thought she was going to make more of a neuroscientific argument,
because that's kind of where they put most of their eggs,

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is in the neural scientific basket, arguing that all these
things are epiphenomenal activities of you know, brain activity, neurons, molecules,
this type of thing. But she really wasn't that sophisticated.
It seemed like I would say an argument, a logical argument,
she would say, no, no, you're wrong, and then basically

(19:48):
just reassert determinism. That was basically the argument. So I
don't know where exactly how do you engage with someone
that will not actually engage with any thing you say,
but so be it. And so then the last two
arguments were a creativity and novelty argument. If the world
is determined, obviously we can't have genuine acts of creativity.

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And then the last one was the problem of infinite regress.
And it's not the least important of the logical problems,
but it is a problem of infinite regress that Aristotle's
unmoved mover already solved. And so us being made in
the image of God, having the ability to choose and
have free will in the world makes me in a

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smaller sense an unmoved mover, that I can be the
first cause of something. Right, my free will can be
the first cause of something, in the same way that God,
the unmoved mover is the first cause of all things.
Again she heard it, wouldn't engage with it, and then
I thought it had been useful I found. I came

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up with six areas of academia why determinism is no
longer even important. First one being quantum physics. The Heisenberg
uncertainty principle highlights that we live in an uncertained, not
a determined universe. Same thing's true with chaos theory, mathematics,
so physics, mathematics, these are two fields that have already

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sort of done away with the idea that we live
in a deterministic universe. I mean, this is determinism is
really like an eighteenth nineteenth century thing. And so people
like Sam Harris that are still hard determinists, you know,
and Zena like citing Sam Harris as some high credible
philosophical academic source. It's like, guys, you know, come on,

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at least catch up with the end of the twentieth century,
you know, because what's happening now in science is that
it's really validating more and more of a theistic world
that the openness and this is and this was kind
of my point. Never it was never brought up, but
quantum mechanics and chaos theory, for example, Kirk Girdle's incompleteness theorem.

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That was my third one, which is essentially mathematic logic,
so physics, mathematics, mathematical logic, all stating that we live
in some type of open system, that it's not a
complete deterministic loop. We haven't found that to be the case.
And if it's not the case, well then the idea
of miracles can occur. That's not crazy, right in a

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quantum mechanical universe and a universe in which chaos theory
mathematics demonstrates that there's all these unpredictabilities even in the
attempt to create deterministic systems, highlights that nothing can be
totally determined, and therefore God's agency totally accords with you know,
the novel causeuistry in Creation the Cognitive Revolution, linguistics Norm Chomsky.

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I'm not a huge Nom Chomsky guy, but his contribution
to linguistics and how children actually acquire and utilize language
was a part of the cognitive turn that demonstrated that
you are not some top lorasa that is just input
output mechanisms, that actually you have sort of innate characteristics
and free will and the ability to choose and articulate

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yourself is actually essential to language acquisition. And then philosophy
of mind emergentism. So even in the philosophy of mind,
the majority opinion these are atheistic, secular scholars, Even within
the philosophy of mind, the majority opinion is emergentism, and
that the mind is probably dependent upon the substrates of

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brain activity, but it's not identical to it. It's not
they're not identity theorists, right, there's functionalism, identity theories, there's
different theories of mind, but emergentism is kind of the
dominant strand right now. And so there is, you know,

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the emergent property of consciousness is kind of the general
ethos of the field. So again against determinism. And and
then the last one was the self referential collapse is
that one cannot rationally affirm. So this is just basic logic.
This is just kind of why people like, okay, we
need to move on from determinism. One cannot rationally affirm determinism.

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Since belief in determinism is due to prior states, then
it too is a non rational belief in and of itself.
So that was kind of my approach to the debate.
Areas where determinism has already been refuted in academia, and
then seven logical reasons why it can't be true. I
don't think she engaged with any of them. She was

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all hung up that somehow, because God's knowledge of the
future exists, that he then causes me to do something,
and she was trying to catch me on this weird
I don't know what she thought. It was some type
of hypothetical trap. She was arguing that if you have
if you were going to wear, if you wore a

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blue shirt today, that did God know you're going to
wear a blue shirt? And my point was, well, yeah,
because God is outside space and time, okay, so stop
using temporal references. He has already seen the completion of
all actions. Yeah, so he knows. He knew that I
was going to make that decision. And then then she

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she's like, ah, well then you couldn't have chose a
red shirt. Therefore you don't have free will. And it's
like no, I could have chosen a red shirt, and
then he would have known that I chose a red shirt. Well, well,
well that you can't do that. It's like what no,
God's and it's and that's why I kept trying to
tell her that's a non sequitur, and it's a category era.

(25:39):
God's fore knowledge does not entail causality. Those are two
different categories. But she would again, I think, I think,
I think we're just over ahead. She wasn't ready to
engage in a lot of that stuff. So, but I'm
curious how you guys felt the debate went. Let me
catch up on some of these. Justin Hinley says, yes,
they were very tentive, but they all heard was biceps

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and blue eyes. Thanks Justin. Appreciate that. Jack the Guitar
God throws in five no comment, Thank you very much. Jack.
Really appreciate that. Dave throws in a Codal Crew membership.
Really appreciate you, Dave, God bless and Jay Homsa throws
in a generous ten Codal Crew memberships. Thank you so much. Jay,
really appreciate that. My man, Let's see who who got

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some of those Dustin brock sow'er cookie Isaiah, Bill Hicks,
Banana Chan, Tim Carrott, Lauren b. Summer, Kats, Trey, Billingsley Sower,
Cookie and Haley in the chat all received a Codal
crew membership. Thank you so much, Jay Homs, I really

(26:47):
appreciate that. And Mester, who cares fifty one throws in
five says just supporting you love your content. Well, thank you, brother.
I appreciate that you care even though you don't care. Thanks,
thank you for the support, my man. So, yeah, that
was kind of the approach to the debate. I mean,
how did you guys? Did anybody those who saw the debate,

(27:08):
how did you think it went? Yeah? Determined to believe
in determinism. Well, I called her right at the end
when I asked her something about choosing to come here,
and then she used free will terminology that yes, she
did choose. Screwed up, Nevsky said, haven't heard the name

(27:29):
Noam Chomsky in a while? Yeah, probably rightfully. So, yeah,
don't get why she was wearing a cross. I don't
know why she was wearing a cross either, because it
was quite clear once the debate started that she had
immense animosity towards Christians and Christianity so I'm not sure
exactly she says it looks cool, but all right, makes

(27:57):
you question how many people wearing crosses do it to
identified themselves as Christians, and how many do it just
because it seems like a fashion statement because celebrities do it.
So her cookie said she doesn't even know what God's
knowledge of the future means. They think it's like Marvel multiverse,
and they do, Yeah, they do it. And the fact
that they never even thought to like hear how historically

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these problems have been dealt with, like for her to
think that Sam Harris and her reading, you know, whatever
books she read or what she has read, because it
turned out she wasn't very well read at all. It
seemed like she tried to memorize the clip notes of
people and just regurgitate it. And I found a TikTok

(28:40):
actually that she said just this. Somebody asked her after
because she appeared on Jubilee with Jordan Peterson. This is
how she got the debate invite, And in one of
her tiktoks, somebody was asking her, based on her appearance
on Jubilee, how did you be comes so smart? And

(29:01):
again she's like a senior at USC and she said, well,
actually you would think that I read all these books,
but I really didn't. I'm not a huge reader. And
then she basically makes a defense for just knowing enough
to sound like you know what you're talking about and
just to state it as assertively as possible and most

(29:23):
people won't even question you on it. That was literally
that was a TikTok video she had when somebody asked
how she got so smart. So that was basically our
debate as well. That was essentially her approach. Can't review
any Jubilee stream they get pulled asap Okay, I won't.

(29:48):
If this is how she works, I wonder how she
reads history. Well, again, based on that TikTok, I don't
think she reads very much, to be honest. She can't
wrap her head around the time out side of a
human perspective. Yeah, and that's a again, that's why it's
a category ear. That's like the atheist argument, can God
create a rock so big he can't lift? It's a

(30:10):
category ear because you're you're asking within the question a
limitation that that defies the category of God. God is omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent.
And then you're and then you're labeling a question that
reduces his potency to creating something that limits it it.

(30:32):
You know, it's just a dumb question. It doesn't disprove
the existence of God. And in fact, you know, the
one that I retort, I like to use and that
when I've heard an atheist bring that up, is yeah,
but our God Christ, through kenosis, self limiting himself as man,
actually was able to experience rocks he created that he

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could not lift through pure human agency. So that'd be
the only religion that you could make that argument on that.
So I think that'd be an apologetic technique from a
Christian perspective that essentially no other religion could make in
response to that argument. But it is still a dumb argument.
It's still a dumb argument. She was out of her league. Yeah, Michael,

(31:16):
often fist of the papacy. I won the debate. You
sure did, Michael, you sure didn't. And you you are
winning in the kitchen as well, my man. Nobody's stopping you.
Paul Neville. It's not that you couldn't choose a different shirt,
it's that you didn't choose one exactly exactly. And because

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God's knowledge is eternal, it's not dependent upon space and time.
My free will and my causal agency made in the
image is dependent on space and time. And again this
is the whole premise of why the demons are so
angry at us and want us to end in the
same position that they're going to. So it's not really

(32:00):
that hard to even comprehend and grock and and if
you were a determinist, that's not your strongest argument. I
think your strongest argument is just to heavily rely upon neuroscience,
because there are factions within neuroscience. And I highlighted him
John Dylan Haynes. I think he's out of Australia. He's
kind of the leading leading guy that's tried to do neuroscience,

(32:21):
arguing that based on Benjamin LaVette his work were the
resting potential or this sort of neuronal activity that happens
right before you make a decision. They argue it's a
sort of cascade and that once that begins, you can't
you actually can't make a different decision. But that's been

(32:42):
disproven by recent neuroscience that these cascades can begin, but
somebody can voluntarily shut it off before the motor action
the behavior actually occurs, so that would already insinuate the
existence of free will, that we can inhibit the action.
And that's where I would have went if she went
with the neuroscience arguments, is that I can appeal to
them like many more articles that are saying that we

(33:05):
can actually inhibit these cascade effects demonstrating free will. But
she didn't even go there. Yeah, thanks Emmy, he says,
dph and a landslide. You were determined to Thanks man,
Jesse says, you nailed. I appreciate it, boring opponent, it was.

(33:29):
I would have enjoyed somebody that was a little bit
more sophisticated and didn't have to get into like the sassiness,
and we just actually like focused on the arguments because
you know, I don't think you can actually make a
winning argument from determinism, but they somebody could have definitely
done a stronger job doing it than she did. Yeah,

(33:51):
believing determinism literally makes debating pointless because debating insinuates that.
And I brought this up towards the end of the
debate because debating is an activity again getting back to
the phenomenological argument where they they are determinists actually contradict
themselves in the ways that they live their lives, like voting,
like debating, and she just said, well, I believe it's

(34:14):
all just rhetoric, and that if I say the right
words based on somebody's you know, operant conditioning and the
the software that they're running on, that my input can
change their output. That's what she argues. So really we're
just in a we're in a mimetic battle of inputs
into people's brains. And so I made the point because

(34:36):
she lives she lives in a delusional college life in California,
and she said she was like from Pennsylvania or something.
But I brought up that the support for the LGBTQ
movement is waning, and she was just like totally shocked
that I said this. And I'm like, lady, are you
not like in touch with like where culture is right now?

(34:57):
Like absolutely, not that it's gone away. No, there's not
pride parades all across the country. You know that we
just got out of the demon month of June. Pride.
Of course all that stuff still exists, but are you
not aware that the cultural sentiments and support for it
are absolutely diminishing? She had no idea but my point

(35:17):
to her was it is diminishing. Trump is president again,
he's a much threatening figure to her. Then, you know,
I wish he was. But my point is like, you're
losing the culture war, and if that's the case, don't
you just have to concede that you're losing. And eventually
at the end of the day eight, she's like, yeah,

(35:39):
that's it, and that's all I can hope is that
I can like mimetically put in an input that deterministically
allows for an output that she prefers. It's like, okay, okay,
what a what a weird worldview? Calamarack says, debate went, well,

(36:00):
it's amazing how everyone that believes in determinism removes themselves
from the consequences. They absolutely do. I didn't watch, but
I already know you dominated fair enough, fair enough. Uh
do appreciate it? Yeah? It shows she's not a reader. Yeah,

(36:20):
so Dph, will you return to whatever podcast? Yeah? I'm
going to do it again in the future. My goals
right now is I'm getting ready to pump out a
ton of content. So I got I already haven't written down,
I got I got five sponsored streams. I'm getting ready

(36:41):
to dive into, and four other streams related to it.
So my my goal for the next week to two
weeks is pumping out tons of content. Uh so probably
about four streams a week. And then I want to
take my dissertation and repackage that, get that self published.

(37:02):
Take about three essays that I wrote during my PhD program.
One is on the importance of Kant in regards to
the turn in metaphysics, and so it gets into from
Kant how we get to German idealism in nineteenth century
British empiricism. Probably boring for most people, Uh, fair enough,
But I was gonna put that and a book on

(37:25):
or an essay on like the history of drugs and
religion and the Soma mystery and all that different stuff.
And then I have another article and put those together
and have a collection of essay books. So I'd have
three three essays. Essentially, my goal is to get those
two things published. And I've been building a new school
community school dot com, so I actually, you guys know,

(37:48):
I have my membership program through my website, but I'm
kind of limited. I'm hamstrung through the plugin system of
what things like school dot com offer, and so I
have moved moved like fifty to seventy hours of content
over to school dot com, and I'm going to be
relaunching a totally new members program where we do weekly

(38:12):
Q and as I still do my two month member streams,
which is kind of free flowing and discussing anything that's
happening in the world, culture, religion, theology, eschatology, no matter
what it be. It will also include the first Monday
of every month, the fitness program, and then all this
exclusive content which I got so much more that I'm

(38:34):
excited to make once we get through these next two weeks.
So for me, I feel like my plate is pretty
much full for the next three months, and I want
to get my website redone, reget my business going, take
down all the content on my other YouTube channel, David
Patrick Carey, Doctor David Patrick Carey, take all of that down,
which is my old psychedelic YouTube channel. Actually, I got

(38:56):
like over one hundred subscribers from whatever because they put
in my name and that channel pops up, so that
that channel, I've been posting all this orthodox stuff. So
all these streams on trips of internal logos go over there,
and I've been doing that consciously because most of those
people are new age and psychedelic and mostly a lot
of progressives, and so I know that they hate when

(39:17):
I talk about orthodoxy and all this stuff. So I
due stream over that channel so that people will unsubscribe,
you know, knowingly that they will in the effort to
acquire an audience that actually enjoys that type of content.
So my goal, probably again after this next two weeks,
is to take down all that content and create new
content explicitly and only exclusively for that other YouTube channel.

(39:42):
And it's going to be in a different format. It's
kind of going to be pre recorded, edited videos, and
so I want to launch all that stuff and get
that going. So the next time I go on whatever,
because I was going to have, I actually had another
debate lined up with Fara. You guys may have seen
her before. She's done debates with Andrew. She's like a

(40:03):
Middle Eastern chick. I'm not sure where she's from, Lebanese Syrian.
Reminds me of somebody from Lebanon. Looks looks Lebanese. I'm
not sure where she's from. But she wears glasses without
lenses and like the only topic that she debates is feminism. Well,
she saw my stuff and told Brian, oh, he's one
of those orthodox guys. I'll debate him on morality in God,

(40:26):
to which I said, okay, yeah, I'd be happy debate
can morality objectively exist without God? Okay, to which about
three or four days later, Brian texted me and said
that she dropped out, said she won't do a theological
debate although a debate on morality doesn't have to be
about theology. I'm not comparing theological systems, and that she

(40:47):
needs a month to prepare if she's going to do
a debate on that topic with me. So I think
maybe she watched a clip or something from my channel
and thought, Okay, he's going to be a little bit
more philosophical than she would be wanting. I don't know,
but anyways, she dropped out and wants to reschedule a
debate on morality sometime later this year. So well, we'll

(41:09):
see about that. Far equals Timu Mia Khalifa Xavier says
she always pulls out of debates last minute. So yeah,
I'm not sure. I'm not sure she was the one

(41:30):
that even came up with the topic. And then if
she was like trying to shame me for wanting to
do a theology debate. It's like I didn't come up
with it. You did. Oh. Shout out to Wicked Wally.
God bless you brother, man. I'm wicked. Wally's a great dude.
Love you brother. I hope you're doing well. He says,
we'll get to the bait room. Wally and his dad jokes,

(41:54):
gotta love it. Hey. Red Fox throws in a generous
one hundred dollars. Thank you so much, Red Fox got
bless you, brother, he says, Dph, great job you won
on the opener. Did you research some nuanced determinism arguments
like Holmstrom quote, Yes, we are products of forces we
didn't choose. But to the extent that we can recognize

(42:15):
these forces, regain authorship p S. I believe in free
will obviously, Yeah, I did look in And that's a
and that's essentially the school of compatibilism, and that is
the Daniel Dinnett school. Holmestrom is similar. Essentially, that they
argue is there are determined, predetermined forces in the world.

(42:38):
They determine the conditions we exist in. However, we can
have we can choose between limited and conditioned circumstances. So
Dinnett's whole position is that you you have like a
faux free will and that you can sort of choose

(43:01):
between the limited options you have, but you really don't
have full agency of yourself. And that's kind of what
you're getting at with. Yes, we are products of forces
that we didn't choose. In a sense, we're a determined
organism based on those processes, and we can recognize these
forces and then regain authorship, meaning we can then choose,

(43:22):
We can understand the determined the context that we live in,
and then we can like make limited choices between things.
And for Dinnant, he thinks that we're essentially socially conditioned.
Now you may think, okay, well this is kind of
this sounds like a compelling argument for free will. Well,
it still doesn't allow you to have a justification for knowledge,

(43:47):
and it doesn't allow you to have a true justification
for justice or moral responsibility. Because even if that's true,
and we can choose between determined facts or determined conditions, well,
how do we know what the correct behavior and action
should be? What is the ought? So even though they're
giving a sort of semantic presentation for the possibility of

(44:11):
free will. It doesn't really answer the ultimate questions, the
legs that the debate, like, I'm trying to cut the
legs off the chair they sit on to begin with, Right,
so I'm going to cut the leg off that says
they can have objective morality, and cut the leg off
that says they can have objective knowledge, and even the
compatibilist argument it doesn't actually answer those things. What it

(44:33):
does is just try to give a little bit of
some wiggle room to say, yeah, things are determined and
you can kind of choose between limited options, but your
conditioned to do so. But you can sort of exercise
some unique characteristic based on your personality. But then Dennett's
believes that it's on like your personal virtue is expressed

(44:53):
by the choices you make, these limited choices. But again,
on what standard is it virtuous? On what standard to
something good for something bad? That people are choosing, They
have no basis for it. So so yeah, I was
I was prepared for her because that would have been
a much more difficult back and forth. I think for

(45:14):
the audience to follow is if she actually said that
she was a compatibilist, because it would have sound like.
She kept saying that she does have free words, she
can make choices, but it's still in this limited context.
But she didn't even go there. She appealed to compatibilism.
And I don't know if anybody else saw this is
I was asking her at the beginning, like to really
define her position, and she appeals to compatibilism at one point,

(45:42):
but then towards the end of it says, oh, I'm
not a compatiblist at all, I'm a determinist. She's like,
the depaid premise is determinism, not compatib Well, obviously compatilism
is a sub branch of determinism. You more on, like,
that's why determinism could include you having a compatiblist position.
That's why I had to learn, you know. But no,
she actually then said that she's not a compatiblist at well,

(46:04):
she probably couldn't define what it was. Yeah, her opening
statement lasted forty five seconds. She wasn't ready. But anyways,
Red Fox, thank you so much, brother for the support.
And David James, Flood member for five months, says absolute
truth is logically impossible in a determinous universe. Exactly. I

(46:25):
made that point to her and then she goes no,
nuh uh no, you're wrong, and then then reasserts her position.
Jay Hamza, thank you so much, brother for the support,
he says, It's been a long road. Thanks for your
contribution to my change from Islam to Protestant, back to

(46:46):
Islam and now Orthodoxy. Well, glory to God, brother. Will
stay on the Orthodox train. I promise you it's worth it.
It may be struggle, spiritual warfare is real, but I
promise you, brother, don don't give that up. Stay on
that train. I promise you would be worth it. So
if I've helped in any way, I'm humbled and glory

(47:08):
to God, brother, because that's the Holy Spirit working, not
me an. He gifted another five total crew memberships. Thank
you so much, brother for that support. Truly truly appreciate it.
God bless you. So. Anyways, that was kind of the
debate the dating panel. Boy, the dating panel, I knew

(47:31):
what I was getting into, but we had this chick
who is totally fake. She I'm thing, I'm eighteen, No,
I'm nineteen. The whole thing was so fake. The way

(47:52):
she sat like she sat in a way because when
you're there. You there's actually a big like flat screen
at the end of the table that is shownelling you
what the audience is looking at, so you can see
when the camera angle moves when something is brought up.
Then Brian shows a video and all she did the
whole time, although I was more focused on people talking,

(48:13):
is she would sit with her butt out because when
it went to a certain camera angle and she was
just constantly like messing with her breast trying to like
bring more attention. Yeah, I saw Jimbob made it sound
like he was making a joke that she sounded like
a dolphin. Jimbob was hilarious. Shout out to jim Bob again,

(48:35):
God bless him and Megan really good people. Jimbob was
hilarious though regarding all that ye had Jimbob with the dolphins,
she kept looking at herself the entire time. I mean,
she was just an incredibly fake, fake person. And then
we had the big girl that was next to her,

(48:55):
And honestly, I got to say the big girl was
actually I probably talked to her off Campra more than anybody.
She was very nice. Now, she was bisexual, you know,
basically was a liberal, progressive girl, but somewhat down to earth,
very self aware of how she looked and how big

(49:15):
she was, but very conversational. So she was she was
fairly nice. I didn't really talk to anybody else. And
then she's next to a porn star who I went
back and forth with quite a bit, eventually concede on
most arguments. And then the next chick was like Canadian
or something. Then the other chick, she's a porn star.

(49:36):
She talked about getting in like watching pornography at eight
years old, claiming that it scarred her and set the
foundation for her sex addiction. I and even before she
was so nervous. The girl in the all white dress
to the far left of what you're seeing, she was

(49:57):
so nervous before the show started. This isn't me spilling
anyt or anything like that. She was telling the whole
table because her parents she comes from a conservative Catholic
It sounded like a conservative Catholic family in Texas, and
they do not support her lifestyle as a professional porn star.

(50:18):
And she has gone ahead and just chosen this lifestyle anyways.
But you can tell deep down she feels morally convicted
by it. But she's just like decided that she's going
to go with it, and she makes, according to her
and the other girl, six figures, so they make good money.
But she claimed that she saw she was exposed to
pornography at eight years old, set the foundation for her

(50:41):
sex addiction, lost to virginity at twelve to a seventeen
year old, and then slept with over one hundred and
fifty boys by the time she graduated high school at eighteen,
and then I believe she was twenty seven here. I
believe that was her age. I don't know, you can
fact check me. I didn't really pay that close attention,
but I believe she was twenty seven and she was

(51:02):
over five hundred men that she had slept with, and
she was very proud of, like a two hundred or
two hundred and fifty professional scenes or something, And you think,
oh my gosh, uh just I was expecting it to
be degenerate. I was expecting it to be debauchrous. I

(51:25):
was surprised at the beginning when she started talking about
her experience. Yeah, proud equals coping. Well, and that's where
you could see and that's where I started going into
how they're destroying themselves in their soul and the two
porn stars, ironically enough, did not push back at all.
The only pushback is that they were like, well, then

(51:46):
men need to stop consuming it, because if men didn't
consume it, then we wouldn't make so much money. And
it's like okay, And then she was upset of us,
like attacking the porn stars when we should attack the
porn industry. And it's like, but that's like being upset
with the pedophile, or you're not allowed to criticize the pedophile,
only only the sex child sex trafficking system organized crime.

(52:09):
It's like, no, you can do both. We can criticize
the porn industry and saying that people who contribute and
work in that industry are still morally culpable for the
decisions they make. Right. It was a cope. It it
was like an outset and then and then it came
down to ultimately, when I pushed them, she's like, well,

(52:29):
I wouldn't be able to make as much money as
I make. Now It's like, well, that's that's the thing.
Then you're doing it because of maam it. You're doing
it because you can make so much money. So don't
give me the moralism that you know you're helping your
mom because at towards the end of the stream, the
third chair there, apparently she was a manager at Amazon

(52:50):
or something and was making I don't know, I forget
what the comment was, like eighty ninety thousand dollars and
she was set to make over one hundred thousand in
whatever position was. Somebody who worked with her super chatted
while I was in during the whatever podcast and said, oh,
I thought you'd still be in management, but now she
makes six figures, you know, doing being a signed professional

(53:13):
porn star. And it's like, well, there you go, Like
that was a perfect instance if you just actually did
a normal nine to five, you were agreed, like you
already admitted, and somebody else is then validated in the
stream like you were already set to make six figures
if that's the big major importance, so you can help
your mom who's disabled, and rightfully so that's great. But
then to then say well I do porn because I

(53:36):
can make more money, it's like, well, then that's why
you're doing it. Don't tell me you're doing it just
for your mom, because there's other ways you can make
money to support your mom, all right, Yeah, And Acxio
says Brian shouldn't have shifted the combo away from Christianey morally.

(53:56):
He did that a few times, and I think maybe
he just thinks that that's not what his audience wants
to hear, because there was multiple comments under this podcast
where people actually said like that was the most receptive
I've ever seen a group of women on this show
hear about God and theology and it. You know, they

(54:21):
had pushed back at first, and then they started asking
me questions, like literally asking me theological questions. The OnlyFans girl,
the Big Girl chaired two, the two porn stars, and so, yeah,
I thought we were having a good convo. And I
remember at one time it's like we were talking about
something serious and I was getting ready to say something.

(54:41):
Then Brian's like, body count, how many have you been with?
And hey, it's his show. It's his show, So I'm
there as a guest. I'm thankful to even be on
the show. So you know, so, you know, so he
does this every time God comes out. Uh, thank thank you, Dagan.

(55:09):
I really appreciate that. Yeah, I didn't know he does
it every time, but it makes sense. But I mean
priaor Master de Railer. I guess that's be it better
than being a Masturbai. Thank thank you, Karen Uh. Dave

(55:31):
Uh says, what do you think the chances of Brian
coming to Orthodoxy in the future. I don't know. He
didn't he didn't ask me or or present to me
uh any essential interest in it. Maybe he is, uh,
maybe he's talked with Andrew about it. I know him.

(55:53):
And Andrew probably talked more than I did UH with him.
He was very appreciative. He knew that we were orthodox
kind of the circle, the online circle we're all kind
of a part of. But he never asked me anything
about Christianity. He never asked anything about Orthodoxy. I don't

(56:14):
know if that's something that he's quite interested in. So
I'm not sure. Shout out to the Baron if you
guys didn't know, I was on Baron Strawberry's channel today.
He's made his epic come back to streaming today and
so I was fortunate enough to join him. And so

(56:35):
make sure you go over to Baron Strawberry's YouTube channel
and go subscribe, and you can check out the latest
combo I just had with him this morning. Actually it
was actually six hours ago. To be exact, So Rigovic says,
I watched it. Yeah, I saw Rigovic in the chat
and I saw Mojo. I think ri i p was
in the chat too. No, no, doctor Chrispy. This morning,

(56:57):
I'm literally chatting with a fellow irishman and Christy nowhere
to be found in the chat. I mean, I don't know,
I don't know. Were you walking the dog, Crispy? Where
were you? Yeah, lazy Rigovic was there? Where were you, Krispy?
I'm just teasing, brother. We love doctor Krispy Rothchild, God

(57:18):
bless him. FDA had me. Crispy is a wanted man.
He's being pulled from all directions. You know. He can
only he only There's only so much man and so
much time to go around. Uh So, shout out to Crispy,
always holding it down in the chats. Keenan Sa has

(57:42):
never been in a stream without Crispy. Shout out to
Keenan beats too. Man, I watched one of your recent instagrams. Man,
keep putting out the music, love it, love it. Hope
you're doing well brother. So anyways, I think that you
know what is there. There's not much else to say

(58:04):
about the dating panel. John cal throws in twenty says,
good job, DPH did see the debate that was quote,
Christians and Muslims worship the same God debate. Yeah, that's
actually going to bring that up today in regards to
some of the drama stuff. You see, I got so
many tabs pulled up, so I didn't We're not going

(58:24):
to be playing any of this, but one of them
is exactly that. So that was another thing that's unfolded
since the last time I was live. Is those of
you may have saw. I think it was the day
before my debate. Actually, Jay was on Tim Cast or
maybe maybe been the Culture I don't know, Tim Poole

(58:47):
one Tim one of Tim Poole's channels. Maybe it's Culture
Wars or sometime I forget, but anyways, he debated Tim
Gordon and then some Protestant guy who I mean, he
didn't know what he was doing. He was trying to
appeal to some minority sect in the Anglican Church and

(59:07):
claim that they are Apostolic. Anyways, within the debate, it
came up on Timcast or Timpool's show that talking about
Vatican two in the way in which they understand the
referrent the reference how the term God, all worship and religion. Essentially,
this is the Catholic position to steal man it. All

(59:30):
religion is oriented towards worshiping the One True God, which
they claim is our Trinity. However, based on limited knowledge
and cultural influences and factors and the lack of full revelation,
the Hindus and the Muslims are worshiping our God, but

(59:50):
it's just not fully known in that they are using
a different sort of semiotic so they have a different
a body of understanding, but they're referring to the same thing.
That's the same referrent. It's a semantic argument essentially. And
then this turned into Dire doing a debate with FDA

(01:00:15):
that I caught a little bit of. I mean, once
I got the argument, I was kind of done with it.
Let me see if I can find die. Oh, here
it is. And that FDA was there to make the
argument that you know you can have that it doesn't
necessarily necessitate the same referrent. He was making the semantic

(01:00:35):
argument and Jay was making the dogmatic papal argument of
Vatican two. But essentially we are watching in real time Catholics,
Catholic apologists, people like sam Shamun began to articulate that
Muslims worship the same God that we do, when literally

(01:00:55):
people like sam Shimun has been speaking for years talking
about how Muslims worship Satan, that they worship a different entity.
And this has been pretty eye opening to watch because

(01:01:15):
I get what the RC theopologists are trying to do
with Vatican two. I even understand what they're trying to
make regarding the semantic argument of a different body of
semiotic references but ultimately referring to the same referrent, which
is the Trinity, which they have a limited understanding of.

(01:01:37):
I get the argument. But if you are to accept
that that is the case, and that everybody who's doing
any sort of worship is ultimately worshiping the Holy Trinity
in some bastardized limited context, how do you explain Muslims
or a Satanist who deliberately says the opposite about God

(01:01:58):
and claims the God that they worship and then say
that they're worshiping the same God as we do. No,
absolutely not. How can the Catholics, I mean, this was
the hottest thing for the last month, is Mormonism? Right?
How do these Catholics that are claiming that Mormons don't
worship the same God as them are then defending Islam

(01:02:21):
is worshiping the same God that they worship and the
name of Abrahamic religion. It's really astounding. It's really astounding.
And I you know what's happening with orthodox I mean,
we are entering the mainstream right now. And I gotta
say the Catholics. I mean, obviously I'm Orthodox, obviously I'm biased,

(01:02:45):
but I don't feel like the Catholics are doing a
super strong job right now. I don't know, it seems
like they're kind of losing their cultural Their cultural force
right now is well. But yeah, it's a wild thing
to see. Essentially, they are all going I mean fighting

(01:03:07):
to the teeth on X. I mean they hate they
hate the Ortho bros. Right now. The Catholics hate the
Ortho Bros. Right now because we are claiming that we
don't worship the same God as Islam. What the heck?
I thought everybody assumed that. I thought every Christian believed

(01:03:30):
that we worship a different God than Muslims. What. So
here's Jay posted this, and I don't have all the
I got a bunch of other stuff that we'll look into.
So I don't have all the latest stuff that Jay's posted,
but I did, I did catch I mean, how pathetic.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Capturing Christianity? I forget, I don't know it is the
guy named Cameron or something. I saw the point of
the debate where Jay had messed literally told I believe
it's Cameron. What it is that he wanted to debate
what his arguments were going to be, and if the
other guy I believe he has a PhD, was willing

(01:04:13):
to debate that, and he gave him a green light.
Whether he confirmed it or not, but whether there's misunderstanding, okay,
but he did give Jay the green light and affirmed
a Jay that everything was good. But then they did it.
They did. He did a video last night that I
just tuned into for about twenty minutes and it was
Shamoon and three other people, the Cameron dude I believe

(01:04:36):
from capturing Kistry literally that the stream was titled exposing
Jay Dyer at Jay Dyer's at handle for YouTube, and
I was just listening to it and it was so dumb.
It was so dumb. And again, if you have to

(01:04:57):
do a stream with three guys talking about how bad
Jay Dyer is talking about this referent argument concerning Vatican
two and whether we worship the same God, like you
need to check yourself. Like they were just so bloviating
and kissing ask to each other about about this whole fiasco.

(01:05:18):
It was like, what is going on? I did not
realize that they were so but hurt about the fallout
of this, and I saw I think it was Luigi
who did a great job on Elijah Shaeffer. I think
it was him that shared a snapshot of some of

(01:05:42):
the comments from the debate and how many people that
were even Roman Catholic were really turned off by Was
it Trent or I forget the Catholic do I don't
follow the Catholics at all. I really did not capturing Islam, Yeah,

(01:06:06):
Keenan says, I can't even look at sam without being
grossed out anymore. I was, I'll tell you what, I
you know, I thought Shamun had these great viral clips
regarding Islam and like doing Christian apologetics to it. And
I reached out to Dier Let's see, this had been

(01:06:28):
over two years ago, maybe it was three years ago,
and asked him if he had a contact for Sam
Schamun that I'd love to ask him to come on
my channel and talk about apologetics regarding Islam. And I
had saw something and I thought he was Orthodox because
he said something, he was doing something in defense of Orthodoxy.

(01:06:49):
It was a clip that I saw, and I and
somebody said that he was like bouncing around between Orthodoxy
and Catholicism. Well, eventually he chose Catholicism. Well, I reached
out to him on skypepparently that's the way you reach
out to him, and I think he thought I was
wanting to debate him. I told him I was Orthodox,
that I enjoyed his work, asked him if he would
like to discuss Islam on my channel, and he responded

(01:07:13):
by giving me a link to his live stream, and
then I asked him again, yeah, I appreciate your work,
Just curious if you'd like to set up a time
to do his stream together. And then told me that
again a second time, that he was live to join
his stream. And I don't know if he kept thinking
that I wanted to debate him or something. So nothing

(01:07:34):
went there with that. But when I saw how he
prais and stuff, and again the sort of piety signaling
that just rubs me the wrong way, just rubs me
the wrong way. I've known a lot of people that
are very very pious, and just the way they present themselves,
the way he kind of prays and demonstrates his piety,

(01:07:55):
it always made me feel like it was very Protestant.
You know. It's like a u as the reincarnation of
Bruce Ley. Not quite uh, not quite, but the way
he like presented himself and praised about himself and then

(01:08:16):
and then like will call people mother of a whore
and all this stuff, like I don't know, like then
to call people demon possessed, and like, you know, I
get it with some of the apologetic stuff that he
did that on Muslims. I found it very humorous, you know.
I laughed, thought it was funny. But I remember when
him and Jay went back and forth and he was
talking about how Jay's possessed by the devil or a demon,

(01:08:37):
and I think he made a reference to like Jamie
and I've spent I've spent quality time with Jay and
Jamie before, I like multiple multiple days in Florida, multiple
days in Nashville. I've spent a lot of time with
Andrew and Rachel. I've been able to spend one weekend
with Jim Bob and meg Bob, and so I'm big
on like actual personal relationships with people and hanging out

(01:09:00):
with him. And I can say, uh, Jay and Jamie
are good people. And Jay's a really good friend. He's
a good guy. So no matter what he does online controversy,
he's in. I'm a man and I'm friends with him
as a man, and I will have his back. Jay's
a good friend of mine. Andrew Rachel the exact same.

(01:09:22):
You know, Andrew does some ship that maybe I wouldn't
do or say things I wouldn't say, but I know Andrew,
I know Rachel. Those are really good people and I
have their back, and same things with Jim Bob and
meg Bob. So that's just how I am in my relationships.
So you know, I don't get I don't do a
lot of the controversy stuff. I know it's ironic. This

(01:09:43):
this stream is actually titled drama Alert. That's just so
people will click because I tend to not do it first.
But f d A, I know f d A, I
know FDA's wife. Those are good people. So for me
and like my orthodox circle and and a lot of
them are people you guys know that are content creators,

(01:10:03):
Like I know him personally as people, and those are
my friends. And no matter what people say, like during
the dating panel on whatever, one of the fat chick
was hoping that Andrew was there so she could wreck
him or something. And she didn't even know what his
argument was. She didn't even know what he said. She
watched him left this liberal progressive clip clickbait of him.

(01:10:27):
So you know, you're just not going to be able
to get me to condemn my friends because I know
those people personally. Bla. I've never met Bla in person,
but Bla is a good dude. I got Bla's back. So,
like I said, the people that I'm friends with, I'm

(01:10:48):
big on like personal bonds, And you know, you're not
going to get me to condemn any of these people
based on whatever happens online base lit Analyzer. For those
who don't know who Bla is, I've done I've done
movie reviews. He's actually an English teacher, so you know, anyways,
all those regulars, those are actual friends of mine. Uh

(01:11:11):
and yeah we're all Orthodox. But so anyways, when Shamun
was talking about like Jabian, demonically possessed or I feel
like somebody referenced something about Jamie. I was like, dude,
these people are way off. There's something. There's something wrong
with these people. Because even if I was in a
beef with Sam Shamun, I believe he's divorced. But even

(01:11:32):
if he was married, like what's his wife have to
do with any of that? There's there's something. There's something
really off there. I'm not sure what it is. I
would for Bla. Bla is a good dude, I love Bla.

(01:11:53):
Oh he yeah, that's what it is. He said Jay
and Jamie would get divorced, like like what kind of
Christian like wishes that on somebody? Like that's not Come on, dude,
there's something off there. Bro, there's something off and Jay
and Jamie are good people. They're good people, so you know,
I just that once people say stuff like that with

(01:12:14):
people that I know, it'd be one thing if he
was criticizing his argument. Okay, they don't agree, make another
logical argument again. Once you start talking talking about his
wife and kind of wishing that she's going to divorce him, Like, dude,
there's something off there, Like you're a grown man, dude,
like you're you're talking about theology, you're doing apologetics, You're
upset about apologetics, like what? So anyways, I I'm gonna

(01:12:40):
show you this clip real quick. This is uh. Jay
posted this earlier, maybe a couple hours ago, and again
I haven't seen everything he's posted. I have not been
following everything today. But I thought this was really really
good because this whole referent argument that the Catholics are
making regarding Vatican Two, and that even though Muslims have

(01:13:00):
a totally different conception of God are anti trinitarian, explicitly
anti trinitarian, somehow they worship the same God we do, Krislam.
And obviously just because they are oriented towards ultimate meaning,
the source of creation we can call it God, doesn't
mean that the God they worship is the same God

(01:13:20):
as ours. This is biblical. This is all through the
Old Testament. I mean, when the Israelites were sacrificing their
babies to bail, was it really just the wrong reference?
And really what they're doing is they were offering them
to the Yahweh and the Holy Trinity. No, No, like
there's actual different entities and the God that Islam worships

(01:13:41):
is not the God that we worship, and we only
worship the one True God who became man. So here
is a clip of Shammoun actually totally contradicting his now
current position and talking about how just because you have
the same word for something does not mean the thing
that it's reverred to. It's the same thing, which is
the orthodox argument. That is the entirety of our orthodox argument.

(01:14:05):
So check it out. If you have a problem with
the term allah, let me connect my speaker.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
If you have a problem with the term allah, then
you're gonna have a problem with the Old Testament, because
the Old Testament's not written in English, it's written in Hebrew.
Are you aware that one of the names of God
in Hebrew e L was used by the Canaanites for
their high God at the time of Moses. The Canaanites
worshiped a high God whom they called L. And yet

(01:14:43):
the Israelites still called their God L. They didn't reason, all, well,
because they call him L, we won't call our god L.
One of the names of God in the Hebrew Bible,
he's called a bail. I'll give it to you Isaiah
fifty four, verse five. The word bail and Hebrew can
mean master, husband, or lord. So the prophets had no

(01:15:06):
problem using terms for God that Pagans use for their
false God. So why would I have a problem using
the term Allah for the God of the Bible.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Oh wait, wait wait wait wait wait, whoa whoa Sam.
So you're saying that Pagans used the same semiotic to
refer to something that was totally different. Man, that sounds
exactly like the Orthodox position on Islam.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
I explained to the Muslim, though I use a law, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Not the same allaw.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
My allaw is not your allaw.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
If you have a exactly, my God is not the
God of Islam. That's exactly. That's literally, verbatim, the Orthodox
argument that these people are set about. It's unreal. I mean,
this is I get it. I get that Jay is
a controversial figure. I know he's polarizing. I know he

(01:16:02):
gets people's panties in a bunch and he eggs it on.
He's a troll, he's a comedian. But the general the
amount of Catholic quote unquote apologists I see coming to
the defense of this argument is astounding. I don't think
it's gonna have a big appeal when Islam is taking

(01:16:23):
over the West right now that Catholic apologists, mainstream Catholic
apologists are saying, oh, oh, well, it's a different it's
a different understanding, but it's the same God you worship. Really,
because Mohammad just raped my sister in Mannheim and his
cousin just beheaded a child in London, it feels like

(01:16:44):
it's something different God. So anyways, let's get into some
of the news. I'll tell you that the most interesting
thing that I've been following I was trying to think,
you know, this is a drama. Alert, I'm alert, what's
the drama that's going on? I would say one of

(01:17:06):
the more interesting things that's going Oh, we got a
couple let me let me catch up on these super
chats before we dive into a new topic. Jack that
the guitar god throws intent says I said this on
jimbob stream. Also, you have to jump through some serious
mental hoops to take the affirmative on the claim of
us all worshiping the same god. Insane. Yeah, it's a

(01:17:26):
I mean, they can't argue against krislm. I mean literally,
just two years ago they were trying to say you know,
they were trying to do apologetics against the idea that
Pope Francis is creating, you know, an acumenist one world
religion with Islam and Judaism. Now they're actually affirming a

(01:17:47):
theological basis for it. Yeah, the mental gymnastics is astounding.
It is astounding. So anyways, Jack, thank you so much
brother for the support. Really appreciate it. And rig throws
in two says they can't admit they chose the wrong
team equals Pride. It's true, it's true. I mean, you know,

(01:18:07):
and I get I do have I have a softer
spot for Catholics who have an ancestral lineage as Catholic
then I do Protestants Protestantism. I mean, you know, you
can give up your Protestant identity. Come on, it's not
that rooted into like the fabric of who you and
your family are to the same degree that Catholicism is.

(01:18:31):
Like if you're Italian or maybe you're you're Spanish in
your generation, your family can trace their Catholic allegiance to
Rome through generation after generation. I can get the appeal
from that perspective in that making a jump, but obviously
you should still become Orthodox. That is not a sufficient

(01:18:53):
reason to tell God why. Yeah, I learned all the
theology and realized the papacy wasn't historic, but my ancestors
were Catholic and it was just too much for me
to give up. Okay, I can get that appeal, still
a terrible ultimate argument, but all these people that have
converted to Catholicism, and then, I mean, what a terrible

(01:19:13):
position to be in to constantly be on your heels
trying to defend the papacy and everything that's coming out
the Catholic Church. I mean, good luck, good luck I
you know, I God bless him. I know I wouldn't
want to do it. It's not for me. Let me
see if anybody send anything in over on the Dono Chat.

(01:19:36):
Oh yeah, Justin Hinley throws in five on the Dono Chat,
says on a serious note, she also learned Hart on
cause and effect as constantly occurring. Every effect action is
just a reaction to something else, including art, love, selection, etc. Yeah. Absolutely,
And that was my point because she was super anti Trump.

(01:19:56):
She was like the you know, Trump is Hitler type.
And I asked her do you have free will when
you vote? Like? Do are you pro democracy, and she wouldn't.
She wouldn't criticize democracy even though she she is a Marxist,
So she was trying to shy away from that title
because of what it entails. But that's why she's a

(01:20:19):
nineteenth century determinist. I mean, she's essentially a Marxist. I mean,
this is like your average college girl, right. Maybe she
took some she took some intro to philosophy courses. She's
got a leftist Marxist professor. Maybe they formed a relationship
friendship and could been another woman, and she's like, you know,

(01:20:42):
they've talked about Marxism and all this stuff, and now
she thinks that she's super articulate and well informed. But
everything she did entailed that she had some choice in
the matter. And she again when I brought up the
art and novelty, she had no response. She had. All
she did was say no, no, you're wrong and then

(01:21:05):
reassert herself. So she had no retort against it. And
you're exactly right, justin Jay Hamsa throws in twenty six,
thank you so much, Jay says you helped in more
ways than you know. I can't explain what's been happening,
but God has really been chatting with me for a
while now. Someday I hope to meet you, but regardless,
you have my support always. Well, thank you so much
Jay for your support. Brother Jay Homsi, God bless you. Brother.

(01:21:28):
Stay on the path, continue to go to your orthodox parish,
Continue on the journey. Man. We're so glad to hear it,
and thank you for the support. Luchador one seven sixty
four says Andrew got to step his gym game up
if he wants the whatever host to respect him and
ask him theological questions. Prime Andrew would look like jakeen

(01:21:51):
Hagar from Game of Thrones. I don't know who that is,
but we're gonna find out here. So Lucidor seventeen sixty
four is saying that Andrew in his prime looks like
this guy from the Game of Thrones. Let's see here,

(01:22:23):
uh all right, all right, I can can you? Can
you guys? You guys need a meme this into existence.
Can you put Andrew's face on this guy? Like right here?
This is great. This is not what I had in mind,

(01:22:45):
but I will accept Andrew's the man of a thousand faces.
All right, all right, all right, okay, oh you guys
are hilarious. So thank you for that, Lucra Door seventeen

(01:23:08):
sixty four. Really appreciate it. And Justin Hinley throws in
another five dollars. Thank you so much. Justin. He says,
Sam specifically said, I know Jay is a narcissist because
I am one two and that will cause Jamie to
leave him because that's what my ex wife did. God

(01:23:33):
oh man. So okay. So Sam's argument is because they're
both narcissists, Jay's gonna have the same outcome that Sam had. Well,
you know, I believe narcissists can't have empathy. And again

(01:23:54):
I'm friends with Jay. Jay's like a much quieter, very reasonable,
and I'm pretty sure he can experience empathy every time
I've hung out with him. So do I think Jay's
a narcissist? No, I do not think Jay is a narcissist.
I think Jay is always ready to battle, and that's
why he's always so aggressive. That's just him, that's just

(01:24:16):
his personality type. But he's not a narcissist. Again, I
know Jay personally. He's a good dude. Jamie's a really
really good woman. Jay is empathetic. Like, Jay's not a narcissist.
What but sorry to hear how that turned out for you, Sam,
I hopefully things are continue on the up and up.

(01:24:38):
Over on stream Labs, Victor Z throws in ten dollars.
He says, hey, man, can you briefly explain logos logi
distinction and how it relates to the energy essence distinction.
Can't fully wrap my head around it. Things. Yeah, if
you want a further articulation, Victor Z, I have a
whole stream on like an introduction to logos theology. I'd

(01:25:00):
highly recommend going to that because I lay out how
all these things interconnect. But energy essence distinction, essence of
God verse, how we engage in God, the actions of God,
the ways we know God. Those are the energies, right,
So I'm sure you already know the energy. I don't
need to go through all of what they are. We

(01:25:22):
are able to embody those energies, and that's how we
come to have a personal relationship with three persons of
God is through the energies. The logos is the second person.
The Logos is Jesus Christ. The logi are the archetypes
or the divine patterns behind creation itself. So you could

(01:25:43):
think of the logi as the archetypes or essences of
created things. Right, God's essence is uncreated. That is not
an archetype. God's essence is uncreated. God's energies are uncreated.
Through those energies, God and the Logos spoke the world
into existence, Creation made again with those same uncreated energies.

(01:26:06):
The logi are the divine archetypes, principles, patterns behind creation.
I highly recommend if you want if you want to
hear articulation, this is this is the book the book
to get if you want to hear logos, logi, delineation
and distinction. It's called The on the Cosic Mystery of
Jesus Christ by Saint Maximus the Confessor. This book was monumental,

(01:26:31):
is the first Orthodox book I bought as a non
Orthodox that absolutely was a catalyst that led to my conversion.
So in it, Saint Maximus goes into immense detail. There's
multiple ambiguous that it's quoting from, highlighting how Christ incarnating

(01:26:51):
is a theanthropic cosmic revelation because of his connection to
the archetypes of creation being rooted in the logos. And
that's why we say logos theology logos. Metaphysics is that
it's the logos, it's Jesus Christ that all these transcendental
philosophical categories, you know, the ten categories of metaphysics for Aristotle,

(01:27:12):
the twelve transcendentals for Kant. These are all rooted in
the logos. And then the essence of a dog or
dogness is a low gee, a pattern in creation. And
then we have multiple dogs, right, we have individual particular dogs.
So the low gi again, it's like the one in

(01:27:33):
the mini right, So the low gi is the divine
pattern for the many types of dogs. But there's one
dog essence. That dog essence is created, but rooted back
in the logos. The logos is uncreated, and his energies
are uncreated, and his essence is one with God. Does
that make sense? Does that kind of bring it together

(01:27:53):
a little bit? Again, there's a fuller articulation about all
this stuff, but as a superchatle just trying to wrap
it up, screwed up Newsky says, I think my brain
damage is too high for that book. Right now, everyone
in codel and Jim Bob is invited to the wedding

(01:28:15):
Hell Wiki. The Wedding Hell Wiki. Crispy Are you getting married?

Speaker 5 (01:28:19):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Is Krispy getting married? Is what's going on here? Somebody
inform me what is hell? Wiki? Is Crispy getting married?
Is that what we're all finding out right now? I
don't know anyways, Victor Z threw in another one and said,
Sam Harris aka Samuel Catching. Are you familiar with Kevin

(01:28:44):
McDonald's trilogy on the JQ? Finished it today and I
have to say, what a seminal work gives such a
clear evolutionary perspective on the j Gentile conflict. No, I
have not watched or read I'm sorry, Kevin McDonald's trilogy. Yeah,
I'll have to check that out. I am not familiar

(01:29:06):
with that work, Victor Z. But thank you so much
for the support. And over on Dono Chat, Justin Hinley
threw in another five and said, if in trying to
worship the One True God, I believe deleting Christians will
please him? Am I worshiping the God of Christianity by
deleting Christians? According to Vatican? Who you are, Justin? It's

(01:29:32):
just a different referrent. Yeah, So thank you Justin for
the support. Goam Golam throws inten says props to my
in doctor Michael Christian. He has a podcast called Orthodox Health.
Please check it out on Spotify. Well, thank you very much,

(01:29:54):
Golam for that. I will check out doctor Michael Christian.
I'm not familiar with who that is, so thank you
for that. And it looked like we got some a
few more over here on YouTube, Dave Throes and five
says Roman Catholicism is the largest denomination of Islam. Sure
looks that way. It's beginning to look that way for sure.

(01:30:16):
And abject fool throws in a generous one hundred dollars.
Thank you so much, abject fool. God bless you, bro
thank you for that. No comment. And the Baron Strawberry,
who again I was with earlier today. Go check out
his YouTube channel and give him a subscription. And like
the stream we just had earlier today, he says, in Ireland,
Catholicism was basically treated as an ethnicity when I was

(01:30:37):
growing up, hard to leave behind as a nationalist. Good night, brother. Well,
thank you so much, Baron, God bless you. And that's
my point. I mean, if you're an Irish Catholic, like
there is a lot of history in the identity of
being Irish Catholic, you have the wars of again the
Protestant North. You have the entire ancestral identity of being Irish.

(01:31:00):
I can get why that would be hard. But when
the Church then is telling you, as an irishman, that
the people from the Congo who are arriving on your
little islander are getting free healthcare, free education, and free housing,
that they are equally as Irish as you are, you know,
I think you're going to have to give up your
ancestral identity for something that's actually worth fighting for and defending.

(01:31:23):
So really great to hear about Baron and his family.
God bless them, Baron Strawberry, God bless you, brother. Red
Fox throws in another generous fifty bucks. Thank you so much,
Red Fox. He says, could you offer a philosophical argument
that supports the truth claims of Christianity the identity of
Jesus Christ as the Son of God, Christ is king.

(01:31:46):
Can I offer a philosophical argument that supports the truth
claims of Christianity? I don't know how you would make
it philosophic. I mean you can like theological arguments, you can,
you know, obviously, the theophanies of the Old Testament, the
prophecies of the Old Testament regarding the Messiah, a philosophical jeez,

(01:32:19):
if you only could appeal to secular terms, how would
you argue for the validity of christ identity. I don't know.
I would guess the first one that immediately comes to
my mind is the argument from martyrdom. So the fact
that all twelve apostles died of martyrdom, besides John St. John,

(01:32:42):
the theologian John and patmos Sony and even him he
was persecuted. Right, So if you're just going to make
a total philosophical argument, I guess you could appeal to

(01:33:02):
the fact that there's you know, there's not many instances
in history that people willingly died for something they believed,
knowingly believed was a lie. So I guess you could
begin there. In regards to a philosophical argument for the
Son of God being able to become man, that it

(01:33:26):
would get into like Byzantine theology, right, So once you
start getting into the incarnation, it's certainly using Greek philosophical
categories like homo, ussius, pro sopone, personhood and these things,
and then working out you know, gnomic will rejection of

(01:33:47):
these types of things like a deliberative, deliberating will that
Christ had. Christ did not question things he knew in
its entirety because of his full divinity. These things become
kind of philosophical issues regarding Christology. But obviously Christology is
still theological, so I don't know if he's in the chat.

(01:34:10):
I have the super chats pulled up, so I don't
know how you would make If anybody else have ideas
on that, I'd certainly be open. I'm not sure how
you'd make a secular philosophical argument that supports the truth
claims of Christianity, because the identity of Jesus Christ is
the Son of God's going to be rooted, ultimately rooted

(01:34:31):
in hermeneutical and exegetical arguments of the Old Testament, ultimately speaking.
So anyways, Red Fox, thank you so much for the support, brother,
I really appreciate it. Sorry, I don't have a better
response for you regarding that specific question. Jack throws in

(01:34:52):
ten says the whatever girls were recepted because DPH is
based yoked Orthochad. He will be safe demos in no time. Really,
it is Christ doing the saving. But you get what
I'm saying. Absolutely, I don't know if it was because
of the way I looked. I don't know. I've saw
that a few people have said that that maybe it

(01:35:13):
was my physical appearance why they were more receptive. I
thought they would have. I thought when I brought up
the fact that my wife is twelve years younger than me,
that one of those girls would have had to take
an umbrage with that. But nobody on the panel even
brought it up. Again. I was really surprised because I

(01:35:34):
suspected that was going to be a point of contention
that some woman. And again, you have no idea who's
going to be on the panel until you show up
for the show. In fact, Brian doesn't even know because
so many girls flake. They have to ask like fifteen
to twenty girls, hoping that nine to twelve will show up.

(01:35:57):
But I don't know. Was it the way that I love? Potentially,
I'm not sure, but I thought they would have certainly
criticized me being a thirty five and having a twenty
three year old wife, but they never brought it up.
I don't know. Does that have anything to do with
the way I looked. I'm not sure. I'd be curious

(01:36:18):
what you guys think Jay Hamsa throws intent says, I'm
not trying to boast, but I didn't realize God had
a hand on my marriage. My first name starts with JA,
my wife's c. Put together, you get JC Glory to God. Well,
glory to God.

Speaker 6 (01:36:32):
Jay.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
That's that's excellent news. And screwed up Nevsky throws in five,
says God bless you, doctor Dph and Ginny much love. Well,
thank you very much. Screwed up Nevsky really appreciate you, man.
So all right, let's get back to some of Justin
Hinley just threw in five. He says they didn't have
an aid gap problem because it's not the numerical difference.

(01:36:54):
Their imagination is a creepy, gray haired dude with some
young woman. Yeah, that's true. That's probably true. That's a
good point. So maybe it did have to do with
then my appearance regarding them not taking any taking any
umbrage with the fact that my wife was twelve years younger.

(01:37:15):
I thought for sure they would have brought that up
at some point. But yeah, maybe it's because I'm not
the old, gray haired man that has a pop belly
and who's overweight and just is able to get a
young girl through money. Maybe that's what they think. So
maybe hopefully I made him think, Wow, there's actually like

(01:37:35):
put together men that are finding pure, pious women that
are young and they're getting married. Maybe that's a good thing.
Hopefully they think, wow, that's actually a possibility. I didn't
know people were actually doing that. It's like, yeah, that's
exactly what me and my wife are doing. Okay, Red
Fox throws in another fifty. Thank you so much, Red Fox.

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He says, I started with tag and then historic evidence
for Jesus Christ. Recently, in class they asked to differentiate
Judaism versus Christianity. I reference the Messiah prophecy standard. It's
a class full of secularists. Also, I'm unsure of how so,
I'm unsure of how convincing it was for them. I

(01:38:16):
started with tag and then historical argument for Jesus Christ.
Recently in a class they asked to differentiate Judaism from Christianity. Well,
you can differentiate Judaism from Christianity in a lot of
different ways. The one that I even brought up today
with Baron Strawberry is the fact of how they understand sin.

(01:38:38):
That for even Jews today we're talking about Rabbinic Jews,
Talmudic Jews. They believe, as Dennis Prager argued against the
Catholic that pornography is totally fine because you're only guilty
of you commit adultery, like the actual act of intercourse
with another person while you're married. But you lusting after
another woman, you masturbating toography, that's not a sin. That

(01:39:01):
was his whole argument. And for Christianity, we say no
sin begins in the heart based on the teachings of Christ.
The Messiah has come, the Second Covenant is in place,
and the law has been fulfilled, and now it's the
spiritual law that we then abide by. So then you
have all these different regulations. This is why Rabbinic Judaism
has all these like little loopholes how they can get

(01:39:22):
around God. So like on Shabbat or on I'm blinking
on the term the Sabbath. There it is on the Sabbath,
they're not allowed to turn lights on and off, right,
so they just have covers. They turn all the lights
on and then they have covers to cover the light.

(01:39:44):
In New York, you know the famous string around the block.
So they're not allowed to go outside or do certain things.
But if you're within this area, then you can do it.
This is rooted within their theology of how sin is
only a transgression of a law, has nothing to do
with personal intention or the purity of one's heart. And
then obviously then you can start getting into more. If

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you're running philosophical then I mean, I would argue Judaism
at a paradigmatic level is very achin to Islam. It's
a sort of God. It's a monistic, monotheistic God, although
they're waiting for the Messiah. Now you can get into obviously,
you can start getting into the second powers in heaven,

(01:40:29):
third power in heaven, multiple powers in heaven theory. Jay
talks about this all the time. Boyarn has the book
on Borderlines talking about the second Power in Heaven. Theology
of Judaism before Christianity, so they already had I mean,
you can look at Bible of Alexandria. He was a
mental Platonist lived during the time of Christ. Was already

(01:40:51):
arguing that the logos of Greek philosophy is the second
power in heaven. So we can already begin to see
a sort of trinitarian But obviously they're explicit rejection of
Jesus Christ as the Messiah, their understanding of salvation. Right,
So Jews are chosen. They're chosen, And depending on the

(01:41:13):
rabbi you talk to and you ask them about judgment,
it's very different. Some of them don't even like to
go into the existence of an afterlife. I recently watched
a video of a Jew, a Jewish rabbi speaking about that.
So at a paradomatic level, they're very different. And then
if you're using TAG, I think you know TAG. The

(01:41:34):
transcendal argument for God is really about just arguing that
these transcendental categories can't exist, these non physical transcendental categories
what we would call the uncreated energies of God, what
calls trans transcendental categories, what Aristotle calls metaphysics, that these
have to be rooted within a divine, a transcendent creator. Right,

(01:41:57):
the TAG argument is just arguing that is not cannot
exist without there being a God, Epistemic justification and epistemic
no ability cannot exist without a creator God that allows
these static transcendentals to be unchanging. Then it gets deeper
into paradigmatic differences because if you were to use the

(01:42:20):
TAG argument against the Muslim. Both of you are appealing
to God, allowing to be the basis for these transcendental categories.
Then you would get into critiques about the deity. How
Allah is constantly creating? Can he can he like not
create the next moment. No, he cannot. He's bound by

(01:42:42):
sort of absolute laws that dictate who he is within Islam,
our God, the Trinity is superior because there's nothing. It's
a both and as you always hear an orthodoxy, it's
a both a theology. It's not one or the other.
So if you're going to use tag against a Muslim,
then once I mean, because both of you are appealing
to the transcendental categories, being grounded in the existence of God.

(01:43:05):
The next step is then to show how our conception
of God is so much superre and you can use
philosophical categories you could use. You know, I always like
to appeal that can your God be one and many?
The one in the many? Because if you are Jew
or a Muslim, your God can't be one and many.
Your God is only one where ours is one in

(01:43:26):
three persons and three the first number of multiplicity, so
ours is one and many. Ours is both uncreated and
took on created human form. Ours is both the source
of life and his humanity died on the cross, and
see we collapse all these dialectics. And so I would
if if you were going to do apologetics, then against

(01:43:47):
a Muslim can highlight how their conception of God is
inadequate to maintain the transcendental or the metaphysical worldview compared
to Christianity. And so you can use the whole logo
theology and you're only talking about the second person and
it's not revealing the essence of God or making cataphatic,

(01:44:08):
absolute positive claims about the essence of God. So from
there you can then justify why Christianity is a superior
paradigm and why our conception of God is superior. So
that's again that it gets tricky. And if you're in
a class, I don't recommend, depending on how how well
situated they are, you know, but I think I think

(01:44:30):
if you're in a class full of secularists, the greatest
appeal is just to make it an emphatic appeal of
how the Trinity is a unique conception of God within history,
the incarnation is a unique conception of God in history,
and those combined differentiate Christianity from every other religion that's
ever existed period, and just from the Trinity and the incarnation.

(01:44:56):
We can already divide all spiritual world views, ologies and
religions from Christianity because we're the only ones that are
saying God is three persons with one essence, and God
became man and entered historic time, and God then can
be directly engaged through his uncreated energies because Christ has
unified the bridge the chasm between created humanity and uncreated divinity.

(01:45:20):
So that might be the way to go is just
to just to appeal to the uniqueness of Christianity regarding
world religions. Jay gifts another five total crew memberships. Thank
you so much, Jay, really appreciate you. Brother. God bless you.
And Orthodox Boomer Grandma shout out to Alexandria, go get
your icons from Union of All Icons. Alexandria, a guy

(01:45:42):
from my parish actually just bought a Theotokos icon and
the Saint Patrick of Ireland icon that you sent me
from Union of All Icons, and he just had him
blessed this past Sunday at our parish and he mentioned
that he heard of Unianola icons on the stream and
then look them up and bottom and loved the quality.

(01:46:03):
And we were talking about your your icons how even
though they're printed, it has a texture to them, which
I love because we were talking about you know, all
these are uncut Mountain press, but and they're printed, but
they're totally flat. Alexandria's icons the Union of All Icons,
And this is I am not being paid to promote this,
even though she gifted me twenty dollars, so I guess

(01:46:26):
in a way, but she didn't get this to me
to sell her icons. But I will say one of
the things about her icons that I love is that
they actually have a texture to them. There's like a
gloss over them. But you can run your finger in
the ridges of Saint Patrick's cloak and his staff has
a texture to it. Love the icons from Union of

(01:46:48):
All Icons. Highly recommend anybody out there who's looking to
get an icon, please support Union of All Icons and
our Orthodox Boom or Grandma Alexandria. She says, God bless you,
miss Harry. Thank you so much, missus Harry. Hope you're
well rested post dissertation. DPH. Yeah, I needed, Like I said,

(01:47:08):
when I got back from California, I was just kind
of burnt out on traveling, on content creation, on the
stress of trying to create my school community. I mean,
the week leading up before I traveled was every day
me trying to get content put over on school dot com,
trying to get all this stuff I wanted to get.
I wanted my dissertation published, my website, read on in

(01:47:29):
my school dot com membership community launched, before I went
to whatever podcasts. And it stressed me out so much
because I was working NonStop every day trying to get
that done. And so I needed a just a break.
And so now I'm back. So I took my It
was like a four or five day break hiatus. So
now we're back. But thank you so much. Orthodox boomer Grandma,

(01:47:49):
I really appreciate you, Alexander. God bless you in the family.
And Justin Henley says, last one, show a Muslim a
picture of Christ on the cross and ask them is
this your God? Different answers from Islam and Christian Yeah,
exactly is this year God? Did your God? Did your
God die on a cross? Did your God resurrect? Of
course not. They are antithetical to Christianity. So you know,

(01:48:13):
in a way we just have to thank the Catholics
because they're just going to bring more people over to
our side, and so be it. You know, Pope Francis
was a great Orthodox apologist and now the Catholic of
now Sam Shamun's becoming a great Orthodox apologist. So the ironies. Anyways,
one of the things I wanted to talk to you

(01:48:33):
guys about that I want you guys to keep your
eye on. Okay, so this is we're talking about, you know,
drama alert today and now we're going to get into
just like news cycle stuff. One of the things that
I think is really interesting because you know, what do
you what do you get into? What is the biggest
news event right now? Obviously it's probably how Israel controls
the United States, and we'll discuss that a little bit.

(01:48:57):
But one of the things that I think is most
interesting is this continuing feud between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Now,
you guys know, I am no fan of Elon Musk.
In fact, I have a whole stream it's like now
from three or four years ago called Elon Musk is
not your Friend. If you go watch that stream, I
promise you I described everything that Elon Musk has essentially

(01:49:20):
done since then. So I was warning everybody that Elon
Musk is not your friend. This was right before he
purchased X or Twitter then, and that he has his
own ulterior motives. You know, even his backstory, there's a
lot of question marks in regards to his family's wealth,

(01:49:40):
him being a self made man, how exactly some of
this stuff unfolded, and I highlighted that in that stream.
But this recent falling out between Elon Musk and Donald Trump,
these are, you know, essentially the wealthiest man in the world,
depending on which day it is or who's calculating, and

(01:50:00):
then they claim the most powerful man in the world,
although certainly we've seen with the bombing of Iran, Trump
doesn't have as much power as he thinks he does
or most people, let's say most people think the US
president does. But what's happening is very interesting Trump, and
I'm going to play it for you. Trump has recently

(01:50:22):
mentioned he is upset with Musk and even mentioned that
he may think about deporting him, that he's going to
sick doge on Elon Musk, and Elon Musk his companies
really are built on subsidies that he gets from the
US government, and so without his contracts, SpaceX doesn't exist.
Without his contracts, aspects of Tesla and some of his

(01:50:44):
other businesses do not exist. And so there is a
fundamental irony because Elon Musk is saying things that I like.
For example, he's he has got under Trump's skin because
Trump is, for whatever reason, vowing to un see Thomas
Massey in Kentucky as a congressman. I don't think he's
going to be successful. APAK has been trying to get

(01:51:06):
him unseated for at least the last three elections and
have been unsuccessful. Thomas Massey, though, has some opinions and
beliefs that I think are kind of milk toast and
maybe aren't aren't my cup of tea. Generally speaking, seems
to be a very principled man and takes zero money
from APAC. Along with Marjorie Taylor Green, I'll tell you

(01:51:28):
she has been surprising me as of late. Never been
a huge MTG fan. I know that she spoke like
America first with fwintestas thing years ago, but with this
MAGA split with Iran, I don't know if you saw
MTG talking about the influence that Israel has in Congress

(01:51:48):
talking about this was on Tucker Carlson talking about some
of the private conversations she's heard from other Republican congressmen. Okay,
got my ears perked up. She has been calling out
Apak and the Israeli lobby and the military industrial complex,
and she voted no on the Big Beautiful Bill, which
has a measure in which for ten years, the US

(01:52:12):
federal government is essentially going to violate states rights that
no state can make their own laws concerning AI, which again,
as I've already talked about, now Musk he's in favor
of the AI, he's in favor of the technocracy. All
his companies are moving in that direction. That's his goal.

(01:52:33):
But if we don't have any state limits on AI,
so Oklahoma, Indiana, like we can't have any say on
how AI works within our states. In ten years, they're
already going to accomplish the project that they want. We've
already talked about Palanteer. In fact, that's going to be
the next stream that I'm doing. Is a recent conversation
that Peter Teel had and getting into the Antichrist saying

(01:52:56):
things that yeah, I would generally agree with, but then
like acting as if he has no influence that the
technologies and Palanteer and the AI and all the companies
that Teel invest and that has nothing to do with
the Antichrist. It's like, dude, what are you talking about.
That'll be the next stream. We're gonna go over that
whole combo. But Musk is in favor of all these

(01:53:18):
different things, right and in ten years, based on their
own prost their own pronosticating, they believe that they'll have
the AI where they want. The race to AI will
be over in ten years. And that's essentially what Trump is.
It seems like he is, as I said, made his
bed with the Silicon Valley oligarchs and he's going to

(01:53:40):
allow them to essentially run rough shot over States and
Americans until we can quote unquote win the arms race
with the AI. But Trump is saying that he's gonna
deport Elon, He's saying he's gonna sick doge on Elon's subsidies.
Elon has told Trump go ahead and cut all of them.

(01:54:01):
This was like today, This was like three or four
hours before I went live. And so we're just gonna
cover a little bit of this stuff. And so this
was this came out yesterday June thirtieth, that he's been humiliated.
Talking about an ex friend of Elon Musk says that
Elon Musk feels like he has been humiliated now. When

(01:54:22):
all this broke, Elon claimed that Trump was on the
big one that really ended the friendship was when Elon
claimed Trump was on the Epstein list, and I thought, no,
if he was on the Epstein list, we would already
know about that. Of course, he's on the flight log.
We know about whether like the six or seven eight
times he was on the plane. But Trump was with
his wife, Avonka was there. I think Donald Trump Junior

(01:54:45):
was there in some of them. So there was no
indication that Trump was on Pedo Island, right, little Saint
James Island. But the more that was going on with
Israel and Iran, and then and then the things that
Trump has said regarding like totally doing an about face

(01:55:07):
on getting involved in Middle Eastern conflicts, even him trying
to now defend Net Yahu, the rumor was that Trump
actually has a personal animosity with net Yahoo. And what
happens as soon as the Twelve Day War is over, well,
well Net Yahoo is up for serious corruption violations, and
Trump's trying to downplay it, saying that it had to

(01:55:29):
do with like a bugs bunny doll and you know,
like little items he was sent. But no, it's about
him using his influence in the Israeli government to give
benefits to people that give him money. Or one of
them was a guy owned a media center, and so
he was able to facilitate a deal with this guy

(01:55:49):
as long as they wrote positive reviews and news about
net Yahoo and so it's real corruption. Irony is is
that in Israel you can kill Palestinian children, but as
soon as you steal from other Israeli Jews, all of
a sudden, that's a major violation. There is some irony
in that, nonetheless, But I've been getting you know, is

(01:56:12):
Trump on the Epstein stuff? I mean, we were not
getting it. It seems like every time Bongino cash Butteller
or Pam Bondi opened their mouth, you think, Wow, these
people are lying. What is really going on? You almost
think maybe there's an absolute order that this stuff's not
coming out because maybe Trump is involved in some way.

(01:56:36):
Now I hope not. He doesn't seem to be that
kind of guy, But I don't know. I don't know.
It's very strange. Anyways, this claims that Trump or Musk
is absolutely humiliated based on what Trump has has said
and done since this fallout, and that he is going
to do, claiming that Musk will do anything he can
to sabotage Trump. And so this is very interesting because

(01:57:01):
just today, let's see what was the one here it
is and this was this was strange too. Anyways, Trump

(01:57:22):
is vowing to support a candidate to overthrow Thomas Massey
in Kentucky. Elon Musk has vowed to support him, so
the chances of him being ousted at a Kentucky very
very very unlikely. And Musk has been claiming about starting
a new party, which is very interesting. So this as uh.

(01:57:44):
Trump basically called Elon Musk a welfare hoe. This was today,
by the way, who can go back to Africa if
he doesn't want to get his ass audited. So this
is what Donald Trump posted today on true Social Elon
Musk knew long before he so strongly endorsed me for president,
that I was strongly against the ev mandate. Now again,

(01:58:05):
I don't understand why Trump keeps going with this narrative
that Elon's just upset about the ev mandate. He's not.
He said it multiple times on campaign. Trump would say it,
and then Musk would literally come on in the next
like right the next sentence, and then he would speak
to the audience. This is not about an ev mandate.
Apparently there is a physical altercation between Trump and another

(01:58:27):
guy in the Trump administration, and this was the beginning
of the fallout. Trump says, it is ridiculous and was
always a major part of my campaign. Electric cars are fine,
but not everybody should be forced to own one. Okay, Yeah,
it's not about that. Elon may get more subsidy than
any other human being in history by far, and without subsidies,
Elon would probably have to close up shop and head

(01:58:49):
back home to South Africa. Now that is probably true.
That is probably true. So here you have Trump saying
something that's you know, clearly not the case. It's just rhetoric,
and then potentially trying to leverage his actual power against Musk,
who is dependent upon the federal government. That's just a fact.

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No more rocket launches, satellites or electric car production, and
our country would save a fortune. Perhaps we should have
dogs take a good hard look at this big money
to be saved. And so these things are again kind
of heating up. Here's Elon Musk feed and he's been
talking about a new political party, and so he's been

(01:59:34):
very critical of the Big Beautiful Bill because it is
a ginormous spending bill. Right now, the argument is that
Trump he's taking over the Biden disaster and he needs
all this money and all this pork to get through
what he wants to do in the long term. But
I mean our debt. I mean that's why I'm not

(01:59:57):
optimistic about the American Empire. I mean, it's pretty much
it's wrapped into the cloth, like we can't pay back
our debt. And so he's got he posted like Rand
Paul and stuff talking about it. But there was some
some things that I saw about him talking about a
new American Party, and I could absolutely see Elon Musk

(02:00:20):
doing this using his money. He again getting close to Trump,
going to the rallies, seeing him get elected. I could
easily see Elon Musk be like, Wow, I need to
create a third party and probably get grassroots support, probably
people like you and me again using our talking points again,
what is my thing? Elon Musk is a shape shifter.

(02:00:42):
He will use anything that is culturally relevant and popular,
just like Islam in Europe that came out of randomly.
He started posting about you know, the gang the gang
raping groups and Pakistani gang rapes in the UK. This
was years after it happened. It wasn't relevant to the
new cycle. And then he started putting all this stuff
out on x and then the conversation started sparking up.

(02:01:05):
He says things that we absolutely agree with. He is
a transhumanist, he is a technocrat. He is somebody who's
ultimately not in line with the endpoint vision of me
as an Orthodox Christian. He's more in line with the
Antichrist empire. However, in regards to contemporary politics, he says
a lot of things that we'd probably agree with. And

(02:01:29):
I could easily see him creating a third political party
in America with all his money and finding a candidate
that's tied to him at the hip, and essentially acquiring
not only the financial power he has, but wielding real
political power after he saw what Donald Trump happened, So
I could potentially see that being the case. But anyways,

(02:01:55):
he does have some posts here as of today. I
mean he posts all the time today and yesterday talking
about creating the American Party or something like that, an
alternative political party to Republicans and Democrats. So anyways, this
goes on, here's Trump, uh talking about it, and of
course Trump, you know, again with all the faults that

(02:02:17):
Trump has, he is a funny guy.

Speaker 6 (02:02:22):
That he's losing his ev mandate and except yea, he's
very upset about things.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
But you know, he could lose a lot more than that.

Speaker 5 (02:02:30):
I could tell you right now.

Speaker 1 (02:02:33):
Elon can lose a lot more than that. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:02:39):
If watch look, we might have to put doge you know,
you know, dose is dose is the monster.

Speaker 7 (02:02:47):
That have that might have to go back and eat Elon.

Speaker 1 (02:02:50):
The I mean it's funny, come on, come on, I
mean it is funny, like it's petty. Yeah, but that's funny.
I mean he has a personal animosity with Elon Musk,
the wealthiest man in the world, and he's threatening to

(02:03:13):
shut down all his subsidies and then to port him
back to South Africa. That is hilarious. And even imagine
a world in which that actually happened. That Donald Trump
deports the wealthiest man in the world from the United States.
That is hilarious. Now is he gonna happen? Absolutely not,
absolutely not, but that would be hilarious, That would be amazing.

(02:03:38):
That would be massive, massive news. So this is kind
of going back and forth. And then what I saw
this right before I came on and had to grab it. Elon,
So after the message I just read you that he's
gonna take away his subsidies, Elon says, I'm literally saying
cut it all now. And so I don't know, if

(02:04:00):
you know, again being libertarian, these the libertarian accounts, they're
like so based on certain things and they're such weak
progressive on others. So I am not endorsing this X
channel or X account, but he is, in a sense
trying to call his bluff. Like will Donald Trump actually
pull all the subsidies? I doubt it. I highly doubt it,

(02:04:21):
but again it would be funny. And then oh, here
it is. If this insane spending bill passes, the America
Party will be formed the next day. So the bill passed,
I believe today. The bill did pass. I believe today.
Now is he going to announce a new political party?
I don't know. Our country needs an alternative to the

(02:04:42):
Democratic Republican uniparty so that people actually have a voice. Again,
true Republican Democrats are the same thing. The false dialectic
and American politics has been in place for a very
long time, you could essentially say since since the Civil War.
So totally agree with that we need one. Do I
want Elon Musk to be the sole funder and progenitor

(02:05:04):
of it? Probably not? And then this today, this kind
of threw me for a loop. Now, I've I've never
been the biggest Steve Bannon fan, but especially since this
Iran stuff broke out, and he's been great on transhumanism stuff.
You know, Joe Allen, his book Dark Aon I did

(02:05:25):
a stream on it, and hopefully one day I can
have Joe Allen on the stream to talk about transhumanism
and stuff like that. But he is the sort of
tech correspondent for the War Room and has done great
stuff regarding you know, everything that I essentially talk about,
and Bannon's been a big supporter of all that. Well,

(02:05:46):
Bannon and Tucker and Canas Owens and essentially this MAGA
split right has identified that there is a serious split
in the MAGA base. What was astonishing to me, It's
not astonishing but it was it was almost more sad
than astonishing. Really astonishing is the wrong word. It was depressing.
It was sad is to see how so many people

(02:06:09):
who were pro Trump, pro Magat, pro non interventionists flipped
as soon as we dropped the bombs, like they bought
the top gun memes and all of a sudden they're like,
bunker busters are great. You know, look what Trump did
save America. They can't have nuclear weapons. And literally some
of these accounts two weeks ago were saying, you know,

(02:06:31):
we don't need to get involved. Let Israel handle it.
And that was what was sad and disappointing to see
how some people really do have a religious devotion to
Trump and will support anything he does. I'm not talking
about the lower Lumers in the Mark Levins of the world,
like these people are creeps legitimately, like I am not

(02:06:53):
not a fan of Laura Lumer or Mark Levin in
any way. And it was already high lighted who's bought
by Apak. So what has happened is we now can
see everybody who's bought by APAK or is a Zionist,
whether religious, philosophical, political, or just paid off to be
and then we have the actual MAGA base and Steve

(02:07:14):
Bannon was great. Now again, maybe he has flaws things
you don't like, that's fine, but he is really good
on that topic here Elon Musk. So Bannon has been
a huge critic of Elon Musk, and again rightfully, he
basically says the same things I say, is that he
is not a long term ally of the American people,

(02:07:36):
that he is a technocrat, and he is a transhumanist,
and he is those things. And then he mentioned Steve
Bannon when when the fallout happened with Elon Musk, he
told Trump like, just just take SpaceX and nationalize it.
Just take it away from him, which again I think
that's a bit problematic. You just take it away from him.
But Musk claims that Bannon is going back to prison,

(02:07:57):
this time for a long time. Now what So again
you see that, so Elon has animosity towards Steve Bannon,
which is kind of the more the true American populous, right,
and he hates Donald Trump, who is certainly has both
feed in the the Zionist lobby and Mariam maidleson all

(02:08:18):
that different stuff. Everybody knows the rigmore. I don't need
to go over it, but very strange comments. Bannon is
going back to prison. What would Steve Bannon go back
to prison for? And it just seems like it's just
a personality conflict like Elon Musk, Donald Trump. These are
big personalities, you could say, Steve Bannon and this is

(02:08:39):
like just a big personality conflict. But anyways, I am
glad that he's supporting Thomas Massey as I hope that
he is. He is continues his fight in Congress. Now,
this was interesting. This was a conversation today on the
war Room with Steve Bannon and Marjorie Taylor Green and

(02:09:00):
talking about why she couldn't support the big beautiful Bill. Now,
as I said, I've never been a huge MTG fan,
but some of the stuff she said recently, I'm I'm
she's kind of, you know, been quite endearing to my
heart as of late, my conspiratorial heart. Austin Detulio throws
In twenty says, I'm just tuning in. Hope you're doing well, brother, Well,

(02:09:20):
thank you so much, Austin. God bless you, brother. Thanks
for thanks for joining us live and thank you for
the support. Call of Mark throws In five says, something
we need to remember is that there are still enough
neo cons to hold up Trump's agenda. We have to
make some concessions and irons. One well, I will discuss
that because I'll tell you my take on why he
capitulated with the whole thing in just a second. So

(02:09:45):
let's check out. This was from today, and this was
her talking a little bit about what's going on in
the big beautiful bill. See.

Speaker 4 (02:09:51):
Yeah, evidently I could give that same speech this morning.

Speaker 8 (02:09:55):
It's out.

Speaker 4 (02:09:56):
It's outrageous that that that's the case, and you would
have that we would have totally turned a corner from
that horrific moment in time, and you served four months
in prison after that. That was the day that we
all surrounded you, prayed for you, and sent you off
sadly to prison. You were a political prisoner, and God

(02:10:20):
bless you, Steve. We're so glad that you were freed,
and God bless everyone listening to this. That we won
the election so that we could defeat the war, the
real war that is still being waged. But we won
a big victory in November, but the war's not over.
I just want to thank Marsha Blackburn. Senator Marsha Blackburn.

(02:10:40):
She did an incredible job. She has not had any
sleep yet.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
She stayed up all.

Speaker 4 (02:10:45):
Night long fighting to get the AI moratorium out, and
I'm really grateful for her fight. I was engaged with
her on the phone all day yesterday and the early
morning hours of today on this issue. I had told
the White House I couldn't vote for it. I couldn't
vote for it. There's no way because we get a

(02:11:06):
vote again. Everybody needs to understand that it comes back
to the House and we get to vote again. There's
no way I can destroy state rights and there's no
way I can let AI have free reign and the
potential destruction that it could have for ten years without
states being able to protect themselves and the people that
live there and their jobs and their children. And it
was it was too big of an issue to to

(02:11:29):
over to get me to a yes on and I
was I'm just I'm just thrilled in ninety nine to one.
That does show you that that there's some voices in
the President's ear that are not telling him the truth.
And you know what they're you know who they're serving.
They're serving these donors, these big rich donors that have

(02:11:49):
their very special interests in mind that came around during
this last election cycle, Steve, because they knew was going
to win. Trump won with the people. He didn't need
these dops.

Speaker 1 (02:12:04):
So who she referring to to the donors, Well, if
you watched her recent interview with Tucker Carlson, it's quite
clear as who's referring to. She's referring to the Jewish
lobby and how much influence they have on Congress, her
her fellow congressman, and of course the White House. And
she was very outspoken because Mark Levin, like absolutely like

(02:12:27):
was trashing MTG Marjorie Taylor Green, just calling her like
ridiculous names. But again, mark Vin, Mark Levin is a
rabbit dog, right, I mean, he is a He is
a Zionist shill through and through. You cannot you cannot
believe anything that man says. And so you know the

(02:12:49):
fact that she's been so outspoken and was on Tucker
Carlson talking about the Zionist lobby, talking about Jews, talking
about Jewish money, talking about Christian Zionism, which she said
she is not a Christian Zionist and that she is
a Christian cannot support what Israel's doing. The Palestinians, and
it's like, okay, well, maybe there's multiple things we disagree
with her on, but at least she is she's saying

(02:13:13):
the thing that like the forbidden thing in Washington, DC,
and Steve Bannon was saying the same thing. So my
point of bringing this up is just to highlight how again,
this kind is becoming more normalized in the Maga world.
I mean, that was the big thing that we talked about,
that the Trump administration is an alliance between the Maga populism,

(02:13:33):
the Zionist lobby, and the Silicon Valley lobby, and that
those are the three powers that are essentially ruining us
right now. But the Maga populace, the center pillar of
this movement, has split, and half of it has become
very very critical of a large faction of this administration,
which is the Zionist leg of it. And I'm telling

(02:13:54):
you guys, be on the lookout for these speech laws.
You know. Like, for sample, this guy right here, I
am no fan. I don't even know who this guy is,
Bob Vilin. He's some musician. It sounded like crap British music.
I you know, I don't listen to much British hip
hop or whatnot, but he he did. I saw a

(02:14:17):
clip from a recent concert he had in the US.
He was like, def to the IDF, deaf, def to
the id F. His in his gay British accent, and look,
I'm no fan of the IDF, of course, and he is.
Visa has just been revoked by the State Department, and
so he he is on his way out of the

(02:14:38):
country right now. And I'm not against getting people out
of the country, especially if they're foreigners. I'm all in
favor of it. But I'm telling you, guys, I've been
saying this since the beginning of the Trump administration, the
second administration is watch how the language of fighting anti
Semitism is going to come back and attack anybody who's
critical of Israel. Trump is going to allow this to happen.

(02:15:02):
Do you know. I've talked with some people, typically boomers
or naive millennials that are are Trump supporters, like, no, Trump,
Trump's free speech man, he wouldn't let that happen. Dude.
Have you seen this stuff that they're talking about regarding
combating anti Semitism? I mean, I saw a new post
out from the like a government official page was talking

(02:15:23):
about how they're going to ramp up deportations, and one
of the reasons for it was to stop anti Semitism.
Whoa why are we Why are we deporting people for
anti Semitism? Right, I mean and that, and then it
goes to show like all these maga people that are
applauding this guy being kicked out because they're Zionists. It's

(02:15:45):
like whoa, whoa, whoa. All these people have been talking
about white people and Christianity and mocking us continuously. Nobody
bats an eye, but this guy says death to the
IDF and action is immediately huh hmmm. And so this

(02:16:06):
is very very concerning to me as an American because
I do think Palenteer again, just look into Palenteer. Look
who runs Palenteer. Look who Palentteer's biggest contract with Israel.
I mean, they're literally choosing their targets for them. This
is all going to come back on the people. It's

(02:16:27):
definitely coming. So just keep your eyes out regarding this.
That's why one of the reasons why I thought it
was worth worthwhile in bringing up and then this was interesting.
So MTG then talks about how there was nine basically
ten billion dollars in this big, beautiful bill for moon

(02:16:49):
and moon to Mars missions. Now again, I'm skeptical of
modern cosmology. I don't believe that Mars mission is possible.
I even skeptical on the moon landing. But look at
the state of United States infrastructure. Anybody who lives in America,
anybody of you guys who lives in America, I guarantee

(02:17:13):
in your at hometown, where you live or wherever you live,
the roads are filled with potholes, unless it's like a
main thorough array or you're on the interstate. I mean,
at least I can speak here in Indiana and my
trip all the way up to Milwaukee for chase parts
of California, although Santa Barbara's actually generally a pretty nice area.

(02:17:33):
It's like, we need bridges, we need roads paved, we
need basic, basic infrastructure, and we're going to spend ten
billion dollars for a mission to Mars. I thought Elon
Musk had all this stuff figured out in the private sector,
you know. So anyways, this is her talking a little
bit about this nine billion dollars for a moon landing

(02:17:57):
mission to Mars.

Speaker 7 (02:17:59):
Longer we're gonna put it up on the screen. But
where do people go to get you? On Twitter?

Speaker 4 (02:18:04):
Rep MTG. That's where you can follow the thread and
I'll keep adding to it. But Steve, I've exposed this
is something that hasn't even been talked about that I
know of. Is nine point nine nine five billion for
mood for going to the Moon and Moon to Mars missions.
And you know what I think Americans are saying. They

(02:18:24):
walk out in their cities and their towns and they
look at their checking account balances, and they look at
the cost of groceries, and they look at the cost
of health insurance, and they look at the cost of
life in America, especially these twenty year olds, twenty and
thirty year olds are seeing no hope in their future.
And everyone's asking themselves, we can't. We haven't fixed America yet,
but we're But taxpayers are supposed to fund nine point

(02:18:47):
nine nine five billion dollars for the Moon and Mars,
and then we have this Elon Musk President Trump feud
turning into a war between each other, and talks of
a third party being created. I'm sorry, this doesn't fly
with me. MAGA is the new party, and MAGA is

(02:19:08):
defeating the old establishment and the Republican Party, and I
think that's incredibly important. And this is I don't know, Steve,
if any of you know.

Speaker 1 (02:19:18):
I get her sentiment that MAGA, like MAGA, populism is
the party of the people in opposition to the establishment,
and I'll even concede that that's generally true. But also,
just like her interview at Tucker Carlson, MAGA is funded
by the same corporate interest and the same lobbyist that

(02:19:39):
she is critical that she, as a congress woman, cannot
vote against certain things because they will never ever get
through based on the money class and the donor class. Well,
you know, Marjorie, are we in a bit of a quagmire?
I mean, I'm with her that a third party would

(02:19:59):
be absolute detrimental to the right wing because what Elon
Musk would do if if he created the America Party,
as he said he did, imagine that he does. Who's
going to flee from what parties? The progressive leftists that
believe in trans ideology, they're not going anywhere. And the

(02:20:21):
people who hate Elon Musk aren't going to go to
the America Party. And the people who hate Trump and
Republicans aren't going to go to the Republican Party. What's
going to happen? Is this going to consolidate more power
for the Democrats. Really, so I get her sentiment there,
But at the same time, we do have a false dialectic.
We have a uniparty, and let's be honest. Mtg AMaGA

(02:20:43):
has not done very good getting out the corporate interest
or the entrenched establishment of the quote unquote deep state
at all at all. And when we look at the
people surrounding Trump, I mean really really like, it seems
to be business as usual with a few extra domestic

(02:21:05):
like nationalist policies, but it's business as usual. And especially geopolitically,
it feels like anything that Israel once they get and
that's not going to change even if there's a third party.
I mean, I'm very skeptical of Elon Musk's sentiments, and
I would imagine that combating anti Semitism is on the

(02:21:26):
top of his agenda as well, you know, based on
things that he's had to do regarding the whaling Wall
and Auschwitz and all that different stuff. So I totally
get that Trump is he's up against a power establishment
that he can't change. And from what I was listening to,
regarding former people in intelligence. These were just accumulation of

(02:21:49):
interviews that I've listened to. I can't say one in
particular pinpoint of me, but one of the things that
I've come to as a conclusion is they talk about
the entrinched establishment and the Pentagon and it, let's just
be frank. These people were being very frank. They're mostly Jews,
and they then dictate the military industrial complex of the
United States and that is what they view us as.

(02:22:12):
Israel views America and Americans as a military industrial engine
that they can utilize and direct towards anything that they want.
I mean, it is the central core of our economy.
And it's not that we have a great industrial base
that if we were actually in a war we could
defend them ourselves. We don't. But the contracts and the

(02:22:33):
way the ecosystem of Washington, DC and our politics work,
it's about funding war. That's the fundamental premise. And that's
why I believe we as a shell company in LLC
of Israel, we are really just viewed as the military
engine for anything that they want to do. And I

(02:22:54):
think a third party isn't going to change that. A
third party is going to actually be damaging to domestic politics.
Do we need a third party? Absolutely? In fact, you know,
I think the best way to do it is, why
don't we create five parties? Why don't we break up
the Democrat Party as well? Maybe then we would have
something to actually be hopeful for. But three parties, If

(02:23:16):
we just do three parties, the Left's gonna win easy.
Five parties you break up, you split up the Democrat
Party between you know, I don't know, classical liberals and progressives. Okay,
maybe there's something that could potentially be worked with, but
still it's a far cry from orthodox monarchy, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:23:37):
Other member of the House or any senator talked about this.
Over nine billion dollars almost ten billion dollars going to
the Moon and Mars, But I think I'm the first
one that talked about it. But I'll keep adding to
the thread that everybody can follow. So so you know,
I'm doing my best to get the information out. But

(02:23:58):
I think this is where we need to start really
having real conversations and not and again not funding what
these special interest donors that were new new to President
Trump that all came around towards the end of the
election cycle when they knew Joe Biden was done, and
they knew Kamala Harris couldn't win this. This is what

(02:24:20):
we're up against down and it's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (02:24:26):
Yeah. So AnyWho, that's a little bit about what's going
on there. Now I got something fun for you, okay.
So we can't talk about a moon bill without talking
about the most condescending man in the world. And so
without further ado, here this was a video that absolutely

(02:24:46):
made me laugh online, and so I had to save
it for today.

Speaker 2 (02:25:00):
He corrected a child for calling the moon shiny. He
once stopped a wedding to explain that wedding rings are
just emotionally symbolic carbon loops. He believes laughter is just
involuntary diaphragmatic spasms. He wished someone happy birthday, then clarified
it was technically just the Earth returning to its original position.

(02:25:22):
He doesn't say I love you, He says my hypothalamus
is firing oxytocin at above average levels. He doesn't believe
in miracles, unless you count people still inviting him to parties.
He's been blocked by Santa Claus. He once explained gravity
to a falling child. He once told his date that

(02:25:43):
love is a brief neurochemical delusion. He once ruined New
Year's Eve by explaining it was arbitrarily assigned by ancient bureaucrats.
He signs birthday cards with statistical anomaly survival achieved another year.
He doesn't RSVP. He calculates gravitational time dilation before committing.

(02:26:07):
He calls children undeveloped carbon based thought engines. He thinks
international borders are imaginary, but still gets mad when someone
sits in his airplane seat. He has no baby photos,
only time stamps of developmental milestones. He corrects people's dreams.
He is the most condescending man in the world.

Speaker 9 (02:26:28):
I don't always drink, but when I do, I prefer
to remind everyone that Cheers is just a sonic placebo.
Stay curious within peer reviewed limits.

Speaker 1 (02:26:37):
My friends go, wat's that again? We have to watch
that again? I found another one of these. I love
the DOSEKI themed commercials, so I've seen people been making
these through AI. Yeah, sometimes AI is great, right, sometimes
AI is great? And I found one today on Canadians

(02:26:58):
like the average Canadian man. I'll see if I can.
But this made me laugh out loud so hard. The
first time I saw it. I'm gonna play for you
guys one more time.

Speaker 2 (02:27:10):
He once corrected a child for calling the moon shiny.
He once stopped a wedding to explain that wedding rings
are just emotionally symbolic carbon loops. He believes laughter is
just involuntary diaphragmatic spasms. He wished someone happy birthday, then
clarified it was technically just the Earth returning to its

(02:27:31):
original position. He doesn't say I love you. He says
my hypothalamus is firing oxytocin at above average levels. He
doesn't believe in miracles, unless you count people still inviting
him to bodies. He's been blocked by Santa Claus. He
once explained gravity to a falling child. He once told

(02:27:53):
his date that love is a brief neurochemical delusion. He
once ruined New Year's Eve by explaining it was arbitrarily
assigned by ancient bureaucrats. He signs birthday cards with statistical
anomaly survival achieved another year. He doesn't RSVP. He calculates

(02:28:14):
gravitational time dilation before committing. He calls children undeveloped carbon
based thought engines. He thinks international borders are imaginary, but
still gets mad when someone sits in his airplane seat.
He has no baby photos, only timestamps of developmental milestones.
He corrects people's dreams. He is the most condescending man

(02:28:38):
in the world.

Speaker 9 (02:28:39):
I don't always drink, but when I do, I prefer
to remind everyone that cheers is just a sonic pla siebom.

Speaker 1 (02:28:46):
Stay curious within peer reviewed limits, my friends within beer
reviewed limits. Oh that's hilarious. And here I've found the
one with the Canadian You guys are gonna love this.
This is on your average liberal Canadian, so apologies any
of our Canadian friends out there. Apologies, no shots fired

(02:29:07):
at you in particular. In fact, if you're watching this
stream and you're in Canada, you probably agree with this video.
But this was hilarious. Another abandoned films.

Speaker 2 (02:29:17):
He's sorry for being sorry. He applauds government overreach, thinking
it's still not enough. He's never raised his voice unless
it's about hockey or milk and bags. He has strong
opinions on ketchup chips, and no one's ever dared disagree.
He gave his kid maple syrup instead of cough medicine
and it worked. He's been taxed for breathing, fine for

(02:29:40):
shoveling his own sidewalk, and told the carbon in his
timbit is a national threat. But as long as he's
got a Molson in hand and the Stanley Cup playoffs
on TV, he just nods politely and says beauty A.
He brags a boot how good the Canadian healthcare system is,
but has to wait three years to see a specialist.

(02:30:00):
He apologized during sex twice for the same thrust. He
still believes Justin Trudeau's father was Pierre Trudeau. He puts
himself into custody for having impolite thoughts. He winces when
people pronounce the second tea in Toronto. If he gets
mistaken for an American, he corrects them while also apologizing.

(02:30:23):
He once got his bank account frozen for donating to
a protest and says beauty A. He goes to live
in Arizona every March and tells the locals, your country
is messed up A. He is the most Canadian man
in the world.

Speaker 10 (02:30:39):
I don't always drink, but when I do, it's Tim
Horton's surrounded by pejitz stake.

Speaker 1 (02:30:45):
It's that Tim Morton surrounded by Pajet's Oh gosh, I
hope you guys enjoyed that one. I found those absolutely hilarious,
and keep your eye out for him if you see
some of these floating. I've seen a few that weren't
as funny, but some of these are hilarious, like the
Neil Degrass Tyson one so far is my favorite. But

(02:31:09):
I love the dose Eki commercials back in the day
the most Interesting man of the world doseekis needs to
bring that stuff back. Those were some of the best commercials.
Let me just check check in with some of the
super chats and catch up here. M Effer throws in
four and says, if your wife were Asian, they consider
you a creepy white boy. Maybe my wife is German

(02:31:35):
and Russian, so I don't know. I don't know what
their retort would be to that one. And then over
on stream Labs, Oh my gosh, Chase the Chase Haggard.
The Chase Haggard has thrown in five dollars and it
sounds like he has a very personal question. He says,
is drama Alert a title pronounced drama Alert with a

(02:32:00):
lisp and a limp. Risk just trying to understand and
I would, I would, you know, I would ask Chase
in this particular circumstance, try to have a strong lower
jaw and try to actually just pronounce it like a man.
I know how easy it is to fall into your
old habits. Don't have a limp rist and try to

(02:32:22):
refrain from any lisping. You are a married man now,
and this is just really really important that you don't
confuse some of the pedestrians and civilians that you're going
to be encountering in your day to day that you
are a major homo. So try to not say drama alert.
You can just say drama alert, or pretend just pretend

(02:32:44):
that your dad is looking down disappointed on you and
just saying drama alert. That could work as well. Anyways,
Love you, Chase, God bless you brother. Thanks for the support.
I really appreciate it. Death Culture throws in five and
says a good topic to stream is humor from an

(02:33:05):
orthodox standpoint, like boundaries are so and so forth. Is
laughing at this sort of thing wrong, David. It's not porn,
just some spicy memes on x YouTube. Safe link. Well,
you're on. I can't get a hyperlink because it's a
stream labs chat. But let's see if I can find

(02:33:33):
what is you're looking for.

Speaker 2 (02:33:37):
I'm out here in the designating.

Speaker 1 (02:33:39):
Oh no, no, no, no, that's not not appropriate for
for my YouTube channel. At least. I'm not trying to
jeopardize anything that we got going on over here for
a spicy meme. But I do appreciate it. Death Culture
for the support. God bless you. Okay, let's get back

(02:34:01):
over here. Death Culture throws in two. Infrastructure needed our
trains and rails. Oh for sure, we definitely, I mean,
we absolutely need that. And then Calamark throws in five
and says Zionism is on its final leg. When the
boomers are gone, it will be as well. The majority

(02:34:23):
of younger generations have an unfavorable view of Israel. Now
that is the truth. But that's why if you listen
to the rhetoric coming out of the Trump administration, this
is why they are so keen on combating anti Semitism.
I saw, right before the Twelve Day War broke out,
Israel was already at like the lowest recorded level. This

(02:34:46):
was the general American population, so this was boomers included,
but as a collective, it was like at its lowest
favorability since I think they started tracking in like the
early eighties or the late seventies, so that was already worrisome.
Then with the split in the magabase, then with it
being normalized with Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, MTG, Matt Gates, dude,

(02:35:10):
Matt Gates has come out super clutch. He's been super
duper critical of the Zionist lobby and APAC and all
this different stuff, and us get involved with Iran. I
think he's on One America News something like that. O An.
I think that's a network he's on. Anyway, he's a
former congressman. Also took no money from APACK and and

(02:35:33):
then the Democrats tried to claim that he was a
homosexual because he adopted some Cuban kid or something, and
from my understanding, he's not. He was actually trying to
do something fairly nice for somebody, but you know how
politics are, so he didn't get the ag position, which
would have been nice. I mean, imagine we actually had
Matt Gates and instead we have Pam Bondi, who has

(02:35:56):
done absolutely nothing besides actually prosecut people for anti Semitism
and hate speech. So I'm with you, Colin mark that
regards to generational support, like the support for Israel and
Zionism is on such a drastic decline, and then once
you just demarket it by generation, the drop off between

(02:36:18):
gen X and millennials is dramatic, dramatic. So if you
then group millennials and gen Z together, I would I
would venture to say support for Israel at most is
thirty percent. I would guess it's in the twenty percent
support for Israel if you just do millennials and gen Z.

(02:36:40):
That's totally a guess on my part. I have no
data on that, but I mean, if they're progressive left
or they're like actually traditional right, they don't support the Zionism.
It's only the people that are like milk toast centrists
that you know, claim that they're a classical liberal and

(02:37:00):
think that somehow that's sophisticated. In twenty twenty five, those
are the people that are still in support of our
greatest ally, I think most people have totally given up
on it, So I'm with you. I think long term,
I don't know how they're going to correct what's happening.
And then you if you and a factor in Europe,
like Europe is way more based on the JQ thing

(02:37:23):
than Americans generally are, especially support for Zionism now, even
though it's mandated in places like Germany. Right, So it's
hate speech. If you say certain things, you go to jail.
Like there is no collect two hundred dollars at go,
it's straight to jail. And so I remember my wife
was startled just because I jokingly said certain things or

(02:37:46):
gave certain salutes that were indicative of Rome that she
was like, oh my gosh, people go to jail in
Germany when they do that. If you do that in public,
I'm like, yeah, well you're in America, so at least
for now you can. But that's why I think that
this dynamic of the lack of support for Israel amongst

(02:38:06):
the younger generation, and then the immense Zionism and financial
support of Zionism and the tentacles of Zionism and the
Trump administration, I think, in the name of fighting the
white supremacist and the progressive left, they are going to
target us as anti Semites. The power structure is going

(02:38:27):
to do that. So that's why I'm saying watch out
for that, because I think that's a real possibility. But
I'm with you. The younger people just we do not
support Israel. We you know, Israel can if they can
exist independently, then they can exist. But they don't need
to be a parasite to other nations so that they

(02:38:48):
can't exist. So when the boomers are gone, yeah, I think,
I think Protestantism, I think Christian Zionism is going to
be gone with the boomers. I really do. I think
young people who would be a Christian Zionist in let's
say thirty forty years from now will be so heavily
mocked because everybody's going to know about the Schofield Bible.

(02:39:10):
All this conversation is coming out in the public more
and more that I mean, it's just an indefensible position.
And so people like Charlie Kirk that appeal to their
dispensationalism to talk about Israel, I mean, good luck. I mean,
I'm glad he's getting young people in TPS TPUSA, and
but those young people, I mean, it's just like a

(02:39:31):
feeder system. It's like Jordan Peterson an Orthodoxy. Jordan Peterson
was a huge bridge for a lot of people, me included.
But Jordan Peterson hasn't even crossed the bridge that he
helped construct. Like the beginning part, the end of it
is into Orthodoxy, it's into trad Christianity, it's into a
pre modern worldview. He himself has not crossed that bridge

(02:39:52):
in a similar way I see Charlie Kirk is. Yeah,
he's creating the opportunity for it to be you know,
deducive for young people to become conservative in college. But
they're not stopping at you know, Edmund Burkian conservatism, like,
it's going to keep going. And that's when we as

(02:40:13):
the Orthodox Christians, we just welcome all these people with
open arms. They can do all the leg work and
get them, you know, in their twenties. We will welcome
them once they've have a little bit life experience and
are asking deeper questions and wanting answers to spiritual problems.
That's when we as the Orthodox Church have our arms
reached out because we have the answers. So I think
it's ultimately optimistic, but I'm with you Israel and Israeli

(02:40:38):
support Zionism. It's over the only way that That's why
I think the government crackdown is going to actually happen,
because they are losing a monopoly. They have lost the narrative. Well,
if you imagine if you are these if you are
let's whatever in conspiracy theory you have, and there is

(02:40:59):
a powerful of people that are very much Zionists, and
you're witnessing what's happening in America, which is essential for
the military industrial complex support of your nation. Europe not
so much. You know what's happening in Israel, I mean
in Ireland and generally speaking in Europe, and the animosity
they have towards Israel. Okay, if you're Israel, you can

(02:41:21):
probably live with that, but in America, we're all of
our tax buyers. We've given them over three hundred billion dollars.
That's a little bit more problematic. What would you do
if you were then you're gonna use every lever and
every power that you have to try to claw back
whatever cultural high place that you had. And so I

(02:41:46):
think that's what's going to happen. John Castle throws in
two dollars no comment. Thank you very much, John, really
appreciate that. All right, moving forward here with some of
the other stuff to show you. I'm sure you guys
checked out the Tucker car Carlson Ted Cruz debate conversation.
I wouldn't even call it a debate. I would say

(02:42:06):
it was actually an eye opening phenomenon. Again, this is
what I was talking about regarding the MAGA split, the
MAGA base split is is this channel considered anti Semitism? No, brother,
absolutely not welcome. You are in a loving, accepting corner

(02:42:27):
of the Internet, and Jesus loves you dead in so anyways,
this interview I think is incredibly powerful and important, not
because Ted Cruz or Tucker Carlson individually, but it demonstrated

(02:42:48):
how some of these people, like a senator, views their
number one priority is supporting the nation state of Israel,
having a theology dispensational the I don't even think he
believes it. I don't even think he knows what the
Bible says, which is is true. With another clip, I'm
not going to play the clip that was that everybody saw.
But he doesn't know anything about Iran. He doesn't know

(02:43:13):
the demographic population, doesn't you know? But why is he
so set on destroying Iran in their nuclear program? Well,
it's because Israel wanes do And this is very eye opening.
This is just a two minute clip from their combo.

Speaker 5 (02:43:26):
Packs Goals shaped by the goals of the Israeli government
to any extent. Okay, that's lobbying on behalf of says
simple question that is ape Are APEX goals shaped by
the goals of the Israeli government? And I'm just going
to ask you a question straightforwardly, and if you say no,
I think we both know that's not true. Hey, are
they shaped by is that it is? Are they coordinating

(02:43:46):
with the Israeli government? Are they directing that? What are
you want to talk about?

Speaker 4 (02:43:52):
Farah?

Speaker 5 (02:43:52):
The law on lobbying on behalf of someone it is
I hire you, and you lobby on behalf of me.
I direct you? Does Israel direct ape No, they're not
lobbying on behalf of them. Do they care about them?

Speaker 1 (02:44:04):
Yes? But do you.

Speaker 5 (02:44:05):
Think that it's just interesting because what you're now describing
in a very defensive way, I will say, is foreign
influence over our politics? Now and you began and it's
so transparently obvious to everybody. I don't know why you
would be embarrassed of it. You've said that you were
sincerely for Israel. I believe you. I don't think you
have some weird agenda. You seem to by the way, Tucker,
It's a very weird thing, the obsession with Israel. We're

(02:44:31):
talking about foreign country. You're not talking about Chinese.

Speaker 1 (02:44:35):
So again, this is their move, right. So this interview
came out the day I left for the Whatever podcast,
and I remember watching it on the way to the airport,
right when the plane was pulling out of the terminal.
I finished it. And so Cruz basically says the reason
that he got into politics and his biggest his biggest
reason for becoming a center was to defend Israel because

(02:44:58):
this is what he believes as a Bill Christian. He
gets confronted on Iran, doesn't know anything about Iran, ready
to go to war with him, then claims the US
is involved, then takes a step back because Tucker confronts him, said,
oh really, the White House just put out a statement
last night saying that we're not. Then he said, oh, well,
well the Israels are doing it. We're just helping them
and giving them ammunition. Okay, But what happens is he's

(02:45:22):
concerned because rightfully, so right, this has nothing to do
with jew obsession or anti Semitism, right, Tucker is just
asking you just said your biggest reason for becoming a
senator is for the welfare of a foreign nation, and
he agrees. Imagine any other senator said that about any

(02:45:44):
other country. The point is why is it acceptable for Israel?
But if he said that for Cuba, if he said
that for Russia, if he said that for China, obviously
everybody would freak out, And somehow that would be rightfully,
so right, that would be okay if you freaked out
because the senator said that his biggest interest is the
welfare of a foreign nation. But somehow, if you're an

(02:46:05):
American and your senator says that about Israel and you say, hey,
nor your sole focus should be on America and whatever
happens to Israel really has no bearing on what the
US should do, you are called an anti semi And
he does this right here with Tucker Carlson. Watch, you're

(02:46:26):
not talking about Japanese.

Speaker 7 (02:46:27):
I'm talking about the Brits.

Speaker 1 (02:46:28):
You're not talking about the French. The question what about
the Jews? What about the Jews? I'm anti semi now, Senator,
you're just in the UISU t me.

Speaker 5 (02:46:35):
You're asking why are the Jews controlling.

Speaker 1 (02:46:38):
Our Oh so you can't ask the question right? Asking
the question equates to you being an anti semi. Very
interesting foreign politics.

Speaker 5 (02:46:47):
You just asked hardly saying that, and I have that's
exactly what you just said. Well, actually, I can speak
for myself and tell you what I am saying. Good
on behalf, not simply of myself, but on my many
Jewish friends who would have the same questions, which is
to what extent? And it's interesting you're trying to derail
my questions but following me an anti semi, which you are.

Speaker 1 (02:47:04):
I did not, of course you are.

Speaker 5 (02:47:05):
And and rather than be honorable enough to say it
right to my face, our city seezy feeline way implying
it or just asking questions about the Jews, I'm asking
questions about the g I have.

Speaker 7 (02:47:17):
There's nothing to.

Speaker 5 (02:47:17):
Do with Jews or Gudius when it has to foreign government.

Speaker 1 (02:47:20):
He is an Israel controlling our foreign policy. That's not
about the you said. I'm asked. By the way, you're
the one that just called me I think a sleezy
feline who you are, bro? And that's exactly what he
was doing. You were insinuating that Tucker is an anti
semi because he's asking about why is your sole interest
the welfare of a foreign nation. Oh my god, you
can't ask that question. You can you can only ask

(02:47:42):
it about the Japanese and in India and the Russians
and the Chinese, but you you can't ask that about
Israel or how come you're an anti semi. It's like, okay,
so this is the the gig is up. The gig
is up. Like this is exactly klin Mark's last comment
about how the generational difference, the gig is up. We

(02:48:02):
see what's going on, and this interview just absolutely submitted
it in the minds of Americans like he. And then
what was hilarious if you guys didn't follow, was the
day after Ted Cruz was sharing clips of this interview
thinking that it made him look good and that it
made Tucker look bad. Now again, whatever you think about

(02:48:25):
Tucker and his family connections to the CIA, Okay, rightfully so,
and he's addressed some of that stuff. But whatever it
may be, the fact the way that he got under
Ted Cruz's skin was phenomenal, like just by asking probing
questions like the point where he already knew the Bible

(02:48:46):
verse regarding like the nation of Israel and Genesis and
Ted Cruz saying this is the foundation of his support
for Israel, and then saying, oh, what Bible verse is
that I don't know what is and then him knowing
it was just it was such a well prepared interview
that he had. He had it already knowing that he

(02:49:08):
was not going to know the answer, and then to
have the retort and the rebut was perfect. But you know,
this just opened the eyes of more people, even boomers.
I saw this, even open the eyes of some boomers.

Speaker 5 (02:49:22):
It's easy to imply that I'm an anti Semite, which.

Speaker 1 (02:49:26):
You just did.

Speaker 5 (02:49:26):
No, I just you're asking give me another reason if
you're not an anti Semi, give me another.

Speaker 1 (02:49:32):
Reason I want.

Speaker 7 (02:49:33):
The obsession is Israel.

Speaker 1 (02:49:37):
So yeah, interesting stuff happening. This was then the the
day after this interview came out. I don't know if
you guys saw this. Cruz was then booed off the stage,
but I believe they're Hispanics. They must be in Texas somewhere.
I'm not sure exactly where this is. Maybe somebody in
the chat's more familiar, but he was in front of

(02:50:00):
these I believe they are Hispanic Christians, so probably Catholics
and Protestants, and he started talking about his support for
Israel and and he says, if you don't stand with Israel,
I will not stand with you. And then a US
senator tells, I believe his constituents that if you don't
support Israel, he will not support you.

Speaker 11 (02:50:22):
Watch this.

Speaker 7 (02:50:33):
I will say this.

Speaker 1 (02:50:36):
To say that some here, not everyone. That's some here.

Speaker 12 (02:50:41):
Are so consumed with Hem, you know, and I will
understand with you.

Speaker 6 (02:50:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:51:05):
So maybe it wasn't his Spanish. I'm not sure what
does this say. Let's see if we play it a
little bit further. Maybe gallas Okay, So maybe it's not constituents,
it's a gala. Maybe I thought that because the guy
in the back sounded like he had a Hispanic or
Indian accent. I couldn't tell. So anyways, again, big things

(02:51:33):
are happening. I mean, you look in there. There's a
lot of boomers in there. There are older people in there.
That's not just millennials and gen z. And then on
a much more optimistic note, had the pretty all my
Orthodox brothers and sisters out there, did you guys see
that Mel Gibson has been on Mount Athos. So he
went and visited Hillandar Holy monastery, and I believe he

(02:51:56):
just left. He was there for I think three to
four days. And there's a quote, I have never felt
such a strong connection with God anywhere as here said
the Hollywood actor. And so there was a bunch of
videos coming out. This was him getting holy water from
a monk and he was telling him to drink it,
splash it on your face. And then this was him

(02:52:52):
at the monastery. This was one of the photos, so
you can see it is. It's funny he's in all
white and tan, and then all the monks are in
all black, you know, typical Orthnox monastic and uh there's
a little bit of a closer image, so it looks
like he is on the resor there's the resurrection icon.

(02:53:18):
And then what was going around This was another photo
with him in one of them, maybeen the abbot, I'm
not sure. And people are noticing a little bit of
something in his breast pocket there. What is that? Uh,
he's got some zens now he needs to get rid
of the zen's for the Alps. Alps are a far, far,
far superior nicotine pouch and if you need a nicotine pouch,

(02:53:40):
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were talking about, oh, Mel's got a little bit of
a nicotine kick, huh. And so this was another one
in him in the monastery. So let's pray for the
soul mel Gibson again. This has recently visited the Serbian

(02:54:25):
monastery of Hillendar and posted in front of a fresco
depicting a Serbian medieval hero Milos Oblik, who killed the
Ottoman Sultan Marad. So powerful stuff here. Hopefully mel Gibson's
on his way to the Orthodox faith. Glory to God.
This is another photo of him at the monastery. Another

(02:54:46):
one here, so pretty cool stuff. And this was an
article again mel Gibson never felt such a strong connection
to God at Mount Athos monastery retreat. This is the
Jerusalem Post again mel Gibson sixty nine, So pretty cool
stuff there. This was a brief history of Israel Iran.

(02:55:09):
I'm not going to play the whole thing I was
going to, but where are we at now? We're at
three hour marks, so I'll share that link. If you
guys want to check that out, you can check out
that link right there. And then we got alligator Alcatraz.
Love it. So this is a little inside view of

(02:55:30):
the new facility for illegal immigrants that they have erected
a detaining center to detain and withhold some of these
illegals on an island that is surrounded by the Everglades
that is jammed packed with alligators. And I gotta say,

(02:55:50):
I kind of dig it. Will it be used against
American anti semites in the future. Could be, but we
need to get the illegals out. And so this was
the reaction by I'm sure your guys is favorite. Oh
Laura Lumer. Can't stand Laura Lumer, but I literally cannot
stand Lord Lumin Like it literally makes my stomach churn.

(02:56:13):
There's something about her that is just so nefarious and deceptive.
I don't know, She's done some work that I appreciate,
but oh, anyways, check this out. This is joy Reid's
response to Alligator alcatraz or what they're calling Auschwitz. It's
like the Holocaust but for brown people.

Speaker 8 (02:56:36):
About him, But Rod DeSantis is still governor of Florida.
He took the Comfy Couch hosts on a tour of
the concentration camp that he's building in Florida in order
to round up people brown people and throw them in
a camp because he doesn't want them in Florida. Surprise, surprise.
The economy of Florida is going to be severely harmed

(02:56:58):
by rounding up brown people, who, by the way, all
over this country, Latinos are afraid to go to work.
Anybody who is perceived or looks Latino is afraid to
go to work. I know people who to forget about them.
But Ron DeSantis is still good.

Speaker 1 (02:57:11):
Good good. If you are afraid of ice, good, get
out of the country. Good. You are not gonna get
any sympathy with people that voted for Trump because immigrants,
oh my gosh, they're not gonna be able to pick
your corn and and and the farms and in the

(02:57:32):
in the hotel and we don't care. And in fact,
once those industries recover, they're gonna pay more for Americans.

Speaker 5 (02:57:40):
To do the jobs.

Speaker 1 (02:57:42):
And even there this myth that Americans won't do these jobs. Well,
if you didn't pay a household of Mexican men that
live in a house together and there's eight of them,
they go to the home depot so that they can
be a day worker and get picked up in the
back of a pickup truck by a construction crew that
then pays them, you know, five dollars in Yeah, it's
pretty difficult for you're American to get that job because

(02:58:04):
they're making so much more. But if they weren't here
and that wasn't available, yeah, that construction crew and the
contractor is probably not gonna make as much money. But
it's gonna feed more American babies and more American mouths.
So yeah, I'm all for it. I don't know why
they think the sympathy card is going to work with
people that voted for Trump. This was kind of cool again. Jk.

(02:58:30):
Rowling is like a feminist, so I'm not a huge
fan of like her personal opinions, but she is an
arch enemy of the LGBTQ community because she's one of
these turfs. So she's against the trans community because of
her feminism, and so JK Rolling gloats at pdf file

(02:58:52):
who slated her for her trans views as he has
jailed for graping a little boy surprise and then amazing
how that happened so often. I'm sure that shocks nobody,
but I thought it was kind of funny. This was
a clip from Steve Bannon today that we're gonna skip.

(02:59:15):
But anyways, he's talking a little bit about the Twelve
Day War, and I was gonna say what my opinion
was on all that, And what I was gonna say
is I do think Trump didn't want to go to war.
I'm confused about him sort of undermining Toulci Gabbert and
saying that he didn't care that the D and I
said that according to US intelligence, Iran is months, if

(02:59:39):
not years, away from an actual nuclear weapon that could
be actually detonated and used in battle. So he apparently
was listening to the Masad, which I found very concerning.
It made me speculate total speculation that if he does
have a personal animasity with net and Yahoo, which may

(03:00:00):
may not be true, that's at least that was the
rumor leading into the election or his inauguration and he
doesn't want to go to war, but yet somehow capitulates
to everything that Israel wanted. Seemed like maybe they do
have something on him. Of course he does the bunker busters,

(03:00:22):
B two bombers, does you know a lot. This is
where I think it's a little bit symbolic, And this
is where I think maybe Trump was trying to do
something that Israel wanted them to do so that he
could get an out and no longer. We'll see. We'll
see if this is the case, but then he can
no longer be involved with it. We will see. But

(03:00:44):
the argument was the nuclear facilities that they bombed. Apparently
none of the uranium, none of that stuff was there,
and apparently, according to the US, no casualties occurred, so
nobody was even there. According to Iran, Is and Israel,
they already attempted to bomb those exact sites, the three
sites at the US bomb Okay, So either Trump is

(03:01:07):
an idiot and bombed something that had no military like
strategic advantage to those particular sites, or destroying those sites,
or maybe, if we're gonna be optimistic, it was a
symbolic demonstration of power. And we're not even sure if
those if those nuclear facilities that were under ground are

(03:01:30):
totally annihilated or not. We're told they're obliterated. We don't.
We actually nobody actually knows that for sure. Yet we're
told they are. And then he allows Iran to respond
the next day by firing missiles at the US base
and the Katar But again Iran gives US multiple hours warning,
so that there was no US casualties. They caused damage,

(03:01:53):
but I don't believe they totally destroyed the US base,
and that almost seemed symbolic. And so it made me
that potentially, if I'm going to take an optimistic perspective,
that maybe there was a back deal. We're told that
the Whitcoff deal with Iran and the Trump administration was
actually a facade and that they were luing Iran into
the Israeli attack so that they blindsided them. That may

(03:02:17):
be true, may be true. I've also heard again, I
don't know anything. This is me keeping my ear to
you know, the town square, if you will X. Another
theory is that they were actually close to making a
deal with Iran. Israel knew that they were close to
making a deal, so they went ahead and attack to
get this thing going of course, then Trump's trying to

(03:02:40):
deal with everything, and that they came to some sort
of agreement to allow some type of symbolic response by
both parties so that the US could wash their hands
of the involvement with Israel and Iran. Maybe now, I'm
still skeptical. I think that if Iran responds, or if
it Israel bombs Iran and Iran responds, because I do

(03:03:02):
believe that Iran caused way more damage to Tel Aviv
than Israel was allowing the public to know. I think
that's one of the big things. The takeaways is that
Israel absolutely underappreciated what Iran was capable of, and they
prevented media actually sharing how much damage actually took place.

(03:03:24):
So that's why they were then begging for the US
to get involved, and maybe that's why Trump felt obligated.
I don't know, but I imagine if something were to pop
off again, the US is going to side with Israel,
like I just don't see even in my optimistic scenario
where Trump made an agreement with Iran. Still, even if

(03:03:46):
that's the case, Zionism dominates our political establishment and the
Trump White House. That's just not going to change. That's
just not going to change, but I do think it
could have been more symbolic than an actual military achievement
that we dropped what was it, eight or twelve bunker

(03:04:07):
busters on empty nuclear facilities. I don't know. God, guns
and glory, says yep, doctor Dph. The deal was done,
a man's handshake deal and is real facted tried to
paint America responsible. Yeah, I don't. Again, maybe you guys disagree.
I think both those are potentialities, but it's definitely not over.

(03:04:30):
This idea that this twelve day war is over. This
is a rhetorical device for Trump to claim again. This
is the rhetorical strategy I would believe by Trump is
that he gets to claim victory, he gets to exercise
military force, and then he gets to be credited with
solving this tension and this ceasefire right now, So he

(03:04:53):
gets three things. He gets to be a war hero,
he gets to be diplomatic, and he gets to be
a peacemaker. And so but if things pop off, I
absolutely believe that we're gonna be on the side of
Israel again, and that's what's scary. So anyways, this was

(03:05:19):
a video that I believe it was absolutely right by
Steve Bannon. He's talking about how the day after this
twelve day war ended, right when when Trump drops the
F bomb, and one of the interviews talking about how
Israel and Iran don't know what the f they're doing, essentially,
and in Israel went behind his back right and then

(03:05:39):
bombed Iran again. So Trump establishes the deal with Iran,
Iran agrees, and then then Israel takes a whole payload
that they had left and then drops it all on
Iran again, essentially starting things to pop off again. And
that's what caused Trump to apparently be pissed. But what's
strange is that now he's batting for Net and Yahoo,

(03:06:00):
unless Net and Yahoo and Massad have something on him.
But this was a point that Bannon made about all
of a sudden, the rhetoric shifted the day after it
shifted to Pakistan has to be dealt with.

Speaker 7 (03:06:13):
Even as we were speaking and I'm saying, hey, it's over,
President Trump. It's total obliteration done. He's even going to
let the Mulis get some cash. He's moving on. He's
sending out true socialist form even as it just comes
across breaking news. US intelligence believes Pakistan is developing a

(03:06:35):
nuclear armed ICBM capable of reaching the United States. This
is Pakistan. The President Trump just had this chief of
Staff of the Army and nominated President Trump for the
Nobel Prize. Right, officially nominated for the Nobel Prize. Here's
my point. Pakistan has had I don't know, one hundred
and eighty one nuclear weapons. He had doctor Khan who

(03:06:58):
actually spread it, I think, to North Korea, and these
guys and people said, this is how people in the
Middle East have gotten nuclear weapons, et cetera. That's not
the point of this. The point of this. This is
another mcguffin. And I'm not saying they can't develop ICBMs.
Why does it come Why is.

Speaker 13 (03:07:16):
It released on the very day Trump said, Hey, the
war is over and we're not going to fight a
war in Iran.

Speaker 7 (03:07:26):
We're done, We're done. This is the deep state, this
is the arms manufacturer. This is the madness that drives
this town. And if we don't break it, and we
don't break it now, we don't break it now, it's
never going to stop. And it shouldn't be lost to you.
Netnyahu has always said, and we'll pull up the clips.
This afternoon after Iran. You know, Pakistan is going to

(03:07:49):
be a problem. Pakistan is going to be a problem.

Speaker 1 (03:07:55):
People are noticing. The noticing is up. People are certainly
noticing something. Guys, we got eight more super chats till
I meet my goal. Please, if you guys can't help
me complete the goal I had of thirty, we just
need eight more, guys, Please eight more, then we'll reach
our goal. I'd be greatly appreciated if anybody who can

(03:08:18):
help me reach this. I see all my friends reaching
their goals regularly. Helped me. He was just eight away.
Help me reach my goal. Next one is h This
was a huge bombshell. I don't know if you guys
saw the RFK Junior. Now again, I've been I've had
my own criticisms or RFK Junior as of late, but

(03:08:41):
this was a huge bombshell. And regarding autism, I don't
know if you guys caught this clip from the interview,
but I'll share it with you here. Essentially, I'll just
read this. He tells Tucker that the CDC buried its
own internal study showing that one thousand and thirty five
increase in allis risk from hepatitis B vaccination, which all

(03:09:04):
children are required to have. The researchers were shocked, so
they covered it up. How they got rid of the
older children essentially and just had younger children who are
too young to be diagnosed with autism. And so here's
him telling Tucker, this.

Speaker 10 (03:09:17):
What you would do if you wanted to find the answer,
which is to compare outcomes in a fully vaccinated group
to health outcomes in an unvaccinated group. And CDC did
that study in nineteen ninety nine. They brought in a
team of scientists under a Belgian researcher named Thomas vers Rat,

(03:09:43):
and they looked at the data. They looked at children
who had received the appetitis vaccine within the first thirty
days life and compare those children and children who had
received the vaccine later were not at all, and they
found an eleven one hundred and thirty five elevated risk

(03:10:04):
of artism among the vaccinated children, and it shocked them.
They kept the study secret, and they manipulated it through
five different iterations to try to bury the link. And
you know, we know how they did it. They got
rid of all the older children essentially and just any
younger children who were too young to be diagnosed, and

(03:10:26):
they stratified, the stratified the data, and they did a
lot of other tricks, and all of those sudies were
the subject of those kind of that kind of trickery.

Speaker 1 (03:10:38):
Imagine that the conspiracy theorists were right again, the vaccines
were tied with the dramatic increase in autism. And now
we have official proof. And apparently later this fall, the
CDC under RFK Junior is going to be releasing in
official thoroughly studied our thorough study on the reasons for

(03:11:04):
the contributions to the dramatic increase in autism, and of
course is going to be tied with these jabs that
the big pharma has been kickbacks, Our federal government has
been involved, and they have been poisoning us for decades,
decades and decades, and so hopefully this will burst a damn.
But I'll tell you what, RFK Junior was pretty outspoken

(03:11:28):
about the koof and yet that those jabs are not
taking off the market yet, So what are they doing.
They came out and said that they talked about they
made an official announcement about the ties between mRNA and
mile carditis. But last time I checked, they're still on
the market. Why are they still on the market, RFK Junior.

(03:11:49):
If you know that they're doing this, why are they
still on the market. Take it off the market. It's
one of the things I just don't get. Let's see,
next thing I have is, yeah, this is funny. White
supremacists posts at Purdue. This is in Indiana, by the way,
at Purdue University. What does it say, we have a

(03:12:11):
right to exist. This is in Indiana at Purdue University.
So a poster that just says we have a right
to exist is now equated with white supremacy. White supremacy. Wow,
but if you say death to the IDF, you will
be deported immediately, immediately. This was again one of the

(03:12:36):
kind of strange things I was talking about with Donald
Trump net Yahoo. Again, he's a criminal, not only a
war criminal, which he absolutely is. He deserves to be
in prison. He's killed thousands of innocent people. He is
a religious fanatic in regards to the Greater Israel project
and really his Antichrist spirit that he's a part of.

(03:13:00):
And he is facing corruption charges in Israel. And so
Trump then posts this, who apparently we thought he had
an animosity with says breaking news. I was shocked to
hear that the state of Israel, which was just had
one of its greatest moments in history. No, it did not,
and is strongly led by bib Netnaho. No it is

(03:13:22):
not is continuing its ridiculous witch hunt against the great
wartime prime Minister. No he is not. He's a warmonger.
Bib and I just went through hell together. He probably
forced you to trump. He probably has blackmail on you.
That's why you did it. Bib and I just went
through hell together fighting a very tough and brilliant longtime

(03:13:44):
enemy of Israel. Aaran and Bibi could not have been better,
sharper and stronger, and his love for the incredible Holy Land.
Anybody else would have suffered losses, embarrassment and chaos. Bb
Netnaho is a warrior like perhaps no other warrior in
the history of Israel. Oh my gosh, I mean just
pathetic stuff, right, pathetic stuff. Anybody else would have suffered losses,

(03:14:12):
embarrassment and as the result was something that nobody thought
was possible, complete a complete elimination of potentially one of
the biggest and most powerful nuclear weapons anywhere in the world,
and it was going to happen soon. We are fighting
literally for this to happen soon, or we were fighting

(03:14:33):
literally for the survival of Israel. And there's nobody in
Israel's history that fought harder and more competently than bb
net and Yahoo. Despite all of this, I just learned
that Bibi has been summoned to court on Monday for
the continuation of his long running and he has been
through this horror show since May of twenty twenty, unheard of.
This is the first time the sitting Israeli Prime Minister

(03:14:54):
has ever been on trial politically motivated case quote concerning cigars,
a bugs, bunny dog, and numerous other unfair charges unquote,
in order to get do him great harm. Such a
witch hunt for a man who has given so much
is unthinkable to me. He deserves much better than this,
and so does the State of Israel. Bb net Yahu's

(03:15:14):
trial should be canceled immediately and a pardon given to
a great hero who has done so much for the state.
Perhaps there's no one that I know who could have
worked in better harmony with the President of the United
States me than bb net Yahu. It was the United
States of America that saved Israel, and now is going
to be the United States of America that saves bb

(03:15:36):
net Yahoo. This travesy of justice cannot be allowed. What
the dude needs to go to jail. The dude is
a prison war criminal. The guy is absolutely corrupt. And
it's not about a cigar in bugs, bunny dolls. It's
about him literally getting money so that his influence in

(03:15:56):
the Israeli government could benefit people their careers. UH financial interest,
financial investments, UH, media reports, all this type of stuff. No,
the dude is absolutely corrupt. I hope he goes to prison.
And it just reminds you of this meme. Can we
get the Epstein list? The best I can do is

(03:16:18):
support you if you criticize Israel. That's a that that
is essentially the Trump administration right now. And so this
was a video of Trump talking about net Yahoo and Gaza.
I'll play this real quick. Where were you gonna be

(03:16:39):
with nen Yah who without ending He's asking how firm
were you going to be with net Yahoo about ending
the war? If he didn't want to him, but he
wants it to. I will tell he's coming here next week.
He wants to end it to.

Speaker 6 (03:16:53):
We had a tremendous success with Duran.

Speaker 5 (03:16:56):
They won't have me.

Speaker 6 (03:16:57):
Somebody said, what are you going to sign? He said, sign.
They are so bummed out. Did you see the report
issued this morning? The place was decimated. It will be
years before anybody even gets down there.

Speaker 1 (03:17:09):
Uh so that's not a priority.

Speaker 6 (03:17:12):
But we'll have a report, and we'll have a whatever
we want.

Speaker 1 (03:17:14):
We'll get for whatever we want from a rent.

Speaker 6 (03:17:17):
And I think, and I hope, they want to have
a good country. You know, they have massive sanctions right now,
biting sanctions.

Speaker 1 (03:17:23):
It's gonna be very hard for them. So that this
is again my point that whatever is reel wants, whatever,
not Netna, who wants, they're gonna get. And this was
a clip of Trump mocking Jerome pal the fair or
the FED chair Reserve or the Fed Reserve chair. Gosh,
I can't speak right now and rightfully. So, I mean,

(03:17:44):
we all we all know what's going on with the
Federal Reserve, right we know it's a private bank, we
know that it's not a federal institution. We know things
that have been going on and then their manipulation of
the country for a while, so we get it. I'm
glad that he's criticizing the FED, but it's not like
he's going to be able to do anything about it.

(03:18:05):
So that kind of again concludes a lot of the
news stories and the drama alerts that I wanted to
kind of cover for today. Austin Detulio throws in ten dollars.
Thank you so much, Austin for your support today, brother,
really appreciate you. God bless brother. And he just sent
in a generous fifty dollars. My gosh, Austin, thank you
so much, brother for your support today. Thank you very

(03:18:28):
very much, man, very generous, and I really appreciate that.
Josiah Eleron throws in twenty says, God bless you, brother.
Thank you so much, Isaiah, and God bless you. God,
Guns and Glory throws in ten says, let's do eighty
eight super chats like the Doc Brown and McFly. We
don't need Rhoades where we are going. I get where

(03:18:51):
you're going there, God, Guns and Glory, God bless you, brother.
Thank you so much for the support man, and shout
out to Alexandria again. Orthodox Boomer. Grandma also gifted us
a member of super chat earlier, so thank you so much,
he says, pray for Alias, please dph. He's been ill
in the er yesterday. Oh God, I didn't know that.
Lord have mercy. He's better now. Pray we can take

(03:19:14):
our one week off soon and go to the hot
springs in the high desert. Oh that sounds like fun.
I absolutely will keep Elias in my prayers tonight, Alexandria.
I'm really sorry to hear about any of the health problems,
and I'm sure you know he'll be continue to get
better and sooner than later you will be galvanizing in

(03:19:35):
your hot springs in the high desert. So thank you
so much, Alexandria. Really appreciate the support. God bless you,
and I will absolutely say a prayer for Alia tonight. Elias,
So thank you, and let me just double check. I
think that does it mostly for me. So I think

(03:19:56):
that's everything. John Castle says, imagine creating a religion six
hundred years after Christ and saying Christ was part of
that religion. I hope you're reading this, Sigma Christian. It
looks like we got a combo that's happening down here
in the chat. Alexander said he turned seventy nine last Sunday,
many years Wow. Well, many years to Alias. That's great,

(03:20:20):
fantastic telling him my set. Happy belated birthday. I know
it's a week late, but over a week now a
week and two days, but happy belated to you, Elias.
Many years to you, good health, prosperity and time for repentance.
So thank you guys all so much for the support today.

(03:20:40):
I really really appreciate all you guys supporting me and
being able to talk a little bit about my experience
over on the Whatever podcast and you guys supporting me.
And again a major appreciation to Jim Bob. Jimbob was
he was incredible in regards to be able to stream
on my chainane and kind of take care of things

(03:21:02):
for me and help me, you know, utilize and maximize
my appearance over and Whatever. So jim Bob did that
out of the kindness of his heart. And so thank
you to Meg Bob, Jim Bob and James their son
He's Acutie. So and thank you all for support me today.
Major thank you to Austin Detulio Red Fox for the

(03:21:26):
generous support. Thank you guys very very much, an abject
fool through in a very generous super chat. Really really
appreciate you guys, Thank you very much, and I will
be back Thursday, July third, and I will be diving
into Peter Teel's latest interview. The last twenty twenty five
minutes is very very interesting because Peter Teel is kind

(03:21:48):
of talking about Antichrist, one world, a, one world government
and all these things, and yet somehow is totally blind
to the idea that Palanteer and the things that he's
building is contributing to it. So it's gonna be a
really fun little analysis on Thursday. We'll be going over that,
and then I hope to get back into the swing
of things and I got all these sponsored streams and

(03:22:10):
other streams that I'm really excited to dive into. So
tons and tons of content these next two weeks, guys,
and thank you all so much for being here, thank
you for your support, and I will see you all
Thursday as always. Until then, God bless

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