Incel Doomer Black Pill? Arthur Schopenhauer's 19th Century Perspective On Women

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All right, welcome back, ladiesand gentlemen. This is David Patrick Carey
with Church of the Eternal Logos,and today we're gonna have quite an interesting
stream. We're gonna be reading anarticle written by often referred to as the
black pilled philosopher or the most pessimisticphilosopher, that would be the German idealist

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Arthan Schopenhauer. And he has anarticle on women, of which I saw
has sort of been spreading around someof the red pill and manosphere, and
even I saw my brother uber Boyoa few months back did a sort of
discussion over this article. And sowe're gonna be reading it today and it's

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gonna have some stuff that maybe weas more traditionally aligned Christians may agree with,
but other things that we're certainly goingto disagree with. And so to
give perspective to our conversation today,Arthan Schopenhauer, want to highlight had a
bit of trouble with women. Sothis is why I titled it in cell
Dumer blackpill question mark, because heis the most sort of depressed pessimistic philosopher

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and he was a sort of catalystfor the work of Nietzsche. Nietsche often
referred to him as his mentor,and Schopenhauer's work The Will as represent the
Will the World and Will and Representationwas one of his leading books. It's
a it's like a four part book. It's ginormous, and so it builds

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on the phenomenology of which Schopenhauer isdeveloping from Kant And I'll explain that all
here in a few but we'll seethat Schopenhauer I titled it in cell because
some of the rhetoric as we movedthrough this article and read it very interesting.
We're gonna see that he valorizes themasculine figure and believes that men are

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the esthetic sex. It says thingsthat maybe we would agree with in regards
to women being less rational, moreemotional, and he's very critical of the
idea of the sort of European movementduring the nineteenth century, the Enlightenment,
sort of elevating women to a sortof pedestalized status, of which this is
what the red pill in the manosphereis criticizing now, is the fact that

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we now live in a time inwhich women are an object that essentially can't
be criticized. And this article isgoing to be quite critical as we read
through it, so it's going tobe a very different flavor. But it's
coming from of a man who's promotingpolygamy. He's very much against monogamy.

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Like I said, he never reallyhad much success with women. In fact,
well, I'll read just a snippetfrom the Wikipedia that highlights from aspects
of his biography that he once wantedto get married and live a life with
a woman and have a family.Of course, then he started to mate
with or have sex with actresses.You know, often during the time they

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were associated with prostitution, women thatalready had children out of wedlock, that
were sort of unmarriageable. And youknow, at one point a woman had
another child out of wedlock, soshe had two. And he said,
well, and Schopenhauer grew up ina very wealthy family, had lots of
money, and he told her,look, leave that kid behind and you
can come with me to this city. I think he was moving to Frankfurt,

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Germany from northern Germany. I thinkhe was in Hamburg. But you
can't bring him with you. Andthen he even left her money in his
will with the explicit description that shecan use that money as long as not
on her second son. So hey, welcome Crucible crew. God bless you
guys, and thanks so much forhopping over here. Really appreciate Andrew,

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and in fact, our conversation todayis in a sense going to continue with
what you guys were talking about overon the Crucible, considering the Whatever podcast
and Andrew and Rachel really giving sortof vocal public critics, says of the
only Fans culture female promiscuity. Youknow, Rachel and Andrew have talked about
the repealing of the nineteenth Amendment inregards to female voting, and these things

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are going to come up in ourdiscussion today, So I want to get
straight into the article. And sohey, thank you so much. Petrogard
throws in ten dollars and says loveyour content, keep up the great work.
Also, Andrew sent me well,Thank you so much, Petriguard,
and thank you Andrew Wilson. Godbless you, brother, and thank you
for all the support. He's reallyhelped me out over the years. And

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I really look forward. I'll begoing up to Michigan actually to be there
for the baptism of both Rachel andAndrew. They're going to being brought into
the Orthodox Church, and they weregracious enough to extend me an invitation to
that very important moment. And soI think in just a week or two,
I'll be heading up to Michigan forthe first time and staying at their

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house, and glory to God,they'll be entering the Orthodox Church. So
that's going to be a lot offun. I've met both of them in
person multiple times, and we alwayshave a good time, that's for sure.
So I look forward to that.But I don't want to do too
much of a monologue. I wantto get straight into the article today and
start reading it for everybody. Andso who is Arthur Schopenhauer who aren't familiar,

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Like I said, he's sort ofthe continuation of contranscendental idealism. So
when we think about Enlightenment philosophy,we have to realize emmanual content is very
important because his criticism of the noability of the exterior world, he claimed
that basically we have these a priorcategories. He had twelve, Aristotle had
ten. He sort of added twomore, and therefore he called into question

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the no ability of the external world, which then called into question two philosophical
movements that sort of defined philosophy inEurope. That was Cartesian rationalism, the
idea that you can sort of sithere with your eyes closed and come to
rational conclusions about the world. Andthen Roger Bacon and Baconian empiricism, the
idea that you can just use thescientific method to come to knowable conclusions.

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So the exter exterior world is totallyunknowable for Schopenhauer, and therefore he's focused
on phenomenology, a sort of observationof one's interior experience or consciousness. Schopenhauer
was one of the first men tosort of was perceived as a sort of
synthesis between Eastern mysticism, Hinduism,Buddhism. He was very much in favor

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of the Vedas, a very muchhated Christianity and Judaism, and he sort
of brought Western philosophy and Eastern mysticalthought together. He's one of the first
people to do that. That's acharacteristic of his. He believed that the
core of man is will, andthat's what's going to lead into Frederic Nietzsche's
work much of years after him,and like I said, Frederick Nietzsche considered

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Schopenhower to be his mentor. ButNietzsche, despite what people think, is
much more optimistic about the will thanSchopenhauer is. Chopin Howard believes that the
will is uncon unconscious, it's restless, and it's a sort of striving towards
survival, nourishment and reproduction, andthat it is a malevolent force. He

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believed the will was a malevolent force, and really that's all there is.
There's just representation and then there's will. And this is why that leads into
his famous book The World as Willand Representation. And so he believed that
all the higher faculties that distinguish manfrom animals are actually illusionary, and that

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they all are due to the willstriving again for survival, nourishment and reproduction.
And so he thought that the willwas illogical, it's directionless, it's
ceaseless striving, and it leads toman's suffering. This is essential to Schopenhauer's
philosophy, and human life is insome sense of mistake for Chopenhauer, and

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Will see that he's not very muchin favor of this reproduction right, so
he's very pessimistic about sex and man. He sees us falling into fantasy with
women. So when you see awoman that's well en dowed, big breast
wide hips, you know, signifyingsexual cues, that man reverts back to

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his sort of mental fantasies and he'smanipulated by these and this is a problem,
and this is due to again theproblems of the will. And so
he was very much an advocate forasceticism. Interestingly enough, and this is
whereas we as orthodox Christians could actuallyagree with Schopenhauer there. And he saw
asceticism as using the will, thepersonal will to go and battle against the

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other sort of the will for happiness, pleasure, these types of security.
And so he thought that asceticism wasgoing to solve a lot of those problems.
And so he's famously said, don'tseek happiness or pleasure, but just
to avoid pain. Strive to avoidpain. And in the article we're gonna

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read today, he's gonna be talkingabout how men are the aesthetic sects.
He's gonna talk about how monogamy isbad, polygamy is good. Polygamy is
good for women because it allows themto have more sexual freedom. Men fantasize
about women, and that is oneof their defining problems. Mormonism was right
because they condone polygamy and that womenlose all their beauty after children. And

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this is sort of the hideous jokenature has played on women, is that
nature gives them the sort of beautifulyou know, feminized figures when they're young
to draw the ire and again thefantasies of men, only to then be
married in a monogamous situation, whichhe blamed the Christian Christian Church for.

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And therefore they then have a childor two, and they become overweight,
they lose their beauty, and ina sense, they become useless for the
man who married them. So thisis what we're going to see when we
read his article, and so Iwanted to connect that, you know,
keep in mind some of the conversationswithin the red Pill, the manosphere,
or even the migtaw because it's notgoing to map on one to one.

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But it's very interesting because we're readinga piece here from the early nineteenth century,
the early eighteen hundreds, and thisis coming from a man who's very
pessimistic in a way, very progressivein his age. He even was an
advocate for pederasty, although he consideredit a vice. He thought, well,
it was good because it didn't leadto more reproduction, and so you

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know, not so masculine there forsure, which again noticed the sort of
feminized behavior of men in a way, even homosexual men in regards to pederasty,
the valorization of the male figure,the demonization of women, the sort
of animosity towards reproduction. You know, a lot of things there to keep

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in mind. So I want toget straight into the article today. Thank
you so much. Retro clips throwsin five dollars. It says, it's
really it's really is just cooming allthe way down from these degenerate philosophers,
isn't it. Well, certainly someof them. And so again these relationships
that Schopenhauer was sought after, orwas seeking rather during the early years of

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his life, they all failed.And in fact, one young woman,
I think she was twenty two yearshis junior, she was interested in Chopenhauer,
but he basically said, we canget married, but you have to
agree to a polyamorous relationship so Ican sleep with other women, of which
she declined, And so that didn'twork out. But certainly we're seeing a

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we're seeing a pattern, for sure, that's no doubt, so I want
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this topic with Arthur Schopenhauer. Herewe go. I believe this is it
right here. I want to justhighlight again so we have a little perspective
on where his ideas are coming from. We have the whole article right here,

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which we're going to read all ofit and go through together. But
as I said, during his Berlinyears, Schopenhower occasionally mentioned his design to
marry and have a family. Fora while, he was unsuccessfully courting a
seventeen year old Flora Weis, whowas twenty two years younger than himself.
His unpublished writings from that time showthat he was already very critical of monogamy,

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but not advocating polygamy, instead musingabout polyamorous relationships that he called tetragamy.
He had an on and off relationshipwith a young dancer, Caroline Richter.
She also used the surname Medonn afterone of her ex lovers. They
met when he was thirty three andshe was nineteen, working at the Berlin

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Opera. She had already had numerouslovers and a son out of wedlock,
and later gave birth to another son, this time to an unnamed foreign diplomat.
As Schopenhauer was preparing to escape fromBerlin in eighteen thirty one due to
a cholera epidemic, he offered totake her with him on the condition that
she left her young son behind.She refused, and he and alone.

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In his will, he left hera significant of sum of money, but
insisted that it should be not spentin any way on her second son.
Aha. And so again, justlooking at his ideas, we're not going
to cover everything, but he hasinteresting comments on Pederasti again in the world
as will and representation his famous work, Schopenhauer ad an appendix in his chapter

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Metaphysics of Sexual Love. He wrotethat Pederasti has the benefit of preventing ill
begotten children. Certainly he didn't getover his dancer fleeing in Berlin. Concerning
this, he stated that the vicewas considering appears to work directly against the
aims and ends of nature. Andin that manner it is all important for

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the great concern to her, itmust in fact serve these very aims,
although only directly as a means ofpreventing greater evils. And so he considered
pederasty as a vice. And hereis another section here that kind of talks
Hero out his views on homosexuality andpederasty, of which he wasn't He considered
a device, but he wasn't exactlyagainst it. So this is who we

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are reading today, just for everybody'sinsight. So without further ado, let's
get into Schopenhauer's article on women.Okay, on women. So here we
go these few words, and it'sgonna it's kind of slow right through here,
but it's certainly going to pick upas we get further down. In
these few words of joy French French, French French more exactly expressed, in

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my opinion, the true praise ofwoman. That Schiller's poem German verd deer
Fraun, which is the fruit ofmuch careful thought and impressive because of his
antithesis and use of contrast. Thesame thing is more the very first of
human life must spring from one woman'sbreast. You first small words are taught

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you from her lips, your firsttears quenched by her, and your last
size too often breathed out in awoman's hearing when men have shrunk from the
ignoble care of watching the last hourof him who led him. And then
he says. Both passages show theright point of view for the appreciation of

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women. Only one need only lookat a woman's shape to discover that she
is not intended for either too muchmental or too much physical work. She
pays the debt of life not bywhat she does, but by what she
suffers. The pains of child bearing. Let me get this a little closer,

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the pains of child bearing, carefor the child, and the subjection
to men to whom she should bea patient and cheerful companion. The greatest
sorrows of joy or great exhibition orof strength not a sign to her.
Her life should flow more quietly,more gently, and less obtrusively than without

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her being essentially happier or unhappier.Okay, So, like I said,
these are kind of slow until weget to this larger section down here,
women are directly adapted to act asthe nurses and educators of our early childhood
for the simple reason that they themselvesare childish, foolish, and shortsighted,
and a word, are big childrenall their lives, something intermediate between the

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child and the man, who isa man in the strict sense of the
word. Consider how a young girlwill toy day after day with a child,
dance with it, and sing withit. And then consider what a
man with the very best intention inthe world could do in her place.
So in regards to that, certainlywe can agree that women are better with

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children. Women are certainly the nurturers. And you know, this is something
I've even talked with my fiance becauseshe agrees that women are a bit more
childish in the way. And it'skind of a soft heart to joke between
us, but in a way shesort of agreed with that. So moving
forward here with girls, nature hashad in view what is called, in

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a dramatic sense, a striking effect, for she endows them with a few
years of richness and beauty and afullness of charm at the expense of the
rest of their lives, so thatthey may during these years ensnare the fantasy
of a man to such a degreeas to make him rush into taking the

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honorable care of them in some kindof form for a lifetime, a step
which would not seem sufficiently justified ifhe only considered the matter. Again,
Schopenhauer's not in favor of monogamy andcertainly the sort of Christian basis for marriage
within European culture, and this isgoing to become much more explicit as we

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move further through here. Accordingly,nature has furnished woman, as she has
the rest of her creatures, withthe weapons and implements necessary for the protection
of her existence, and for justthe length of time that they will be
of service to her, so thatNature has proceeded here with her usual economy.

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And so for Schopenheer, nature islike a sort of a female beastly
witch that is wanting to consume andeat and ensnare life itself. This is
partly why he wasn't a big promoterof reproduction generally speaking, and will this

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again will become more present later,and why he had at the time,
you know, during the Enlightenment areain the early nineteen hundreds and or the
yeah the nineteenth century, the eighteenhundreds in Germany soft opinions on homosexuality and
pederasty. Okay, moving forward,Just as the female aunt after I believe

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it's supposed to be coitus, losesher wings, which then become superfluss nay
dangerous for breeding purpose, so forthe most part does a woman lose her
beauty after giving birth to one ortwo children, and probably for the same
reasons. Then again we find thatyoung girls in their hearts regard their domestic

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and other affairs as secondary things.It is not a mere jest, love
conquest, and all that these include, such as dressing, dancing, and
so on, they give their seriousattention. The nobler and more perfect thing
is the latter and slower in reachingmaturity. Man reaches the maturity of his
reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before hewas eight and twenty women when she is

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eighteen. But hers is reason ofvery narrow limitations. This is why women
remain children all their lives, forthey always see only what is near at
hand, cling to the present,take the appearance of a thing for reality,
and prefer trifling matters to the mostimportant. So again, his understanding

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is that the exterior world is purerepresentation, and we can never know the
thing and of itself. And sohe's highlighting that women take for granted things
that they see and hear, andtherefore senate manipulated by the representations of the
world, and therefore creatures that shouldnot be as will become clear later elevated
or venerated or celebrated in any way. This is why women remain children all

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their lives, where they always seeonly what is near at hand. Cling
to Okay, I read that oneit is by virtue of man's reasoning powers
that he does not live in thepresent only like the brute, but observes
and ponders over the past and future. And from the this spring direction care

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and that anxiety which so frequently noticein people. The advantages as well as
the disadvantages that this entails, makewomen, in consequence of her weaker reasoning
powers, less of our partaker inthem. Moreover, she is intellectually shortsighted,
for although her intuitive understanding quickly perceiveswhat is near to her, and

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on the other hand, her circleof vision is limited and does not embrace
anything that is remote. Hence,everything that is absent or past or in
the future affects women in a lessdegree than men. This is why they
have greater inclination for extravagance, whichsometimes borders on madness. Women in their

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hearts think that men are intended toearn money so that they may spend it
if possible, during their husband's lifetime, but at any rate after his death,
and so certainly not true for all. But maybe we can agree with
a little bit here in regards tothe impulsiveness the emotionalism of women. And

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certainly, you know I haven't metObviously there's many female historians, but as
he is highlighted, they tend tonot be as concerned with history, with
the world of ideas, with philosophy, with higher pursuits of reasoning. And
I think this is this is adifference. This is a difference between the

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sexes and how God made us.Obviously, from a Christian perspective, we're
not going to condemn women to thesame degree that this article does later on,
because both are made in the imageof God, and so we can
agree. And certainly from a biblicalperspective, anybody who's read scripture sees that
God created men and women with differentfaculties and different abilities to nurture, or

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to protect, or to provide,or to be more creative, if you
will so so far, I thinka little bit here we can probably agree
with. As soon as he hasgiven them his earnings on which to keep
house, they are strengthened in thisbelief. Although all this entails many disadvantages,

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yet it has this advantage that awoman lives more in the present than
a man, and that she enjoysit more keenly if it is at all
bearable. This is the origin ofthat cheerfulness which is peculiar to women,
and make her fit to divert manand in case of need to console him

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when he is weighed down by cares. To consult women in matters of difficulty,
as the Germans used to do inold times, is by no means
a matter to be overlooked. Fortheir way of grasping a thing is quite
different from ours, chiefly because theylike the shortest way to the point,
and usually keep their tension fixed uponwhat lies nearest, while we, as

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a rule see beyond it for thesimple reason that it lies under our nose.
It then becomes necessary for us tobe brought back to the thing in
order to obtain a near and simpleview. This is why women are more
sober in their judgment than we men, and why they see nothing in things

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than is really there, while we, if our passions are roused, slightly
exaggerate, or add to our imagination. Okay, and moving on here.
It is because women's reasoning powers areweaker that they show more sympathy for the
unfortunate than men, and consequently takea kindler interest in them. On the

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other hand, women are inferior tomen in matters of justice, honesty,
conscientiousness, again because of their reasoningfaculty is weak. Things clearly visible and
real and belonging to the present exercisea power over them which is rarely counteracted
by abstract thoughts, fixed maxims,or firm resolutions. In general, by

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regard for the past and future,or by consideration for what is absent and
remote. Accordingly, they have thefirst and principal qualities of virtue, but
they lack the secondary qualities which areoften necessary instrument in developing it. Women
may be compared in this respect toan organism that has a liver but no

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gallbladder, so that it will befound that the fundamental fault in the character
of women is that they have nosense of justice. This arises from their
deficiency and the power of reasoning alreadyreferred to and reflection, but is also
partly due to the fact that naturehas not destined them, as the weaker
sex, to be dependent on strengthbut on cunning. This is why they

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are instinctively crafty and have an ineradicabletendency to lie. For as lions are
furnished with claws and teeth, elephantswith tusk, bores with fangs, bowls
with horns, and cuttlefish with itsdark, inky fluid, so nature has
provided women for her protection and defensewith the faculty of dissimulation. And all

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the power which nature has given toman in the form of bodily strength and
reason has been conferred on women inthis form. Hence, dissimulation is innate
in women, and almost attacked okaysorry, almost as characteristic of their very

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stupid as of the clever. Accordingly, it is as natural for women to
dissemble at every opportunity as it isfor those animals to turn their weapons when
they are attacked, and they feelin doing so that in a certain measure,
they are only making use of theirrights Therefore, a woman who is

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perfectly truthful and does not dissemble isperhaps an impossibility. So instead of women
are deceitful in their nature. Veryinteresting. Take there. Okay, and
guys, if you have any commentsor anything, feel free to send in
super chats as we go through here, and I'll bring those up and we'll

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discuss as we move through this article. Okay, where were we Okay,
according hints? Okay, here wego. Accordingly, it is natural for
women to dissemble at every opportunity yep, as those of the animals. Therefore,

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a woman who is perfectly truthful anddoes not dissembols perhaps impossibility. This
is why they see through dissimulation andothers so easily. So women apparently are
able to see through lies more easily. Therefore, it is not advisable to
attempt it with them from the fundamentaldefect that has been stated at a fundamental

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defect and all that involves spring falseness, faithlessness, treachery, ungratefulness, and
so on. In a court ofjustice, women are more often found of
perjury than men. It is indeedto be generally questioned whether they should be
allowed to take an oath at all. From time to time. They are

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repeated cases everywhere of ladies who wantfor nothing, secretly pocketing and taking away
things from shop counters. Okay,Nature has made it the calling of the
young, the strong, and handsomemen to look after the propagation of the

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human race so that the species maynot degenerate. This is the firm will
of nature, and it finds itsexpression and the passions of women. This
law surpasses all others in both ageand power. Woe to the man who
sets up rights and interest in sucha way as to make them stand in

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that way of it, for whateverhe may do or say, they will
at the first significant onset be unmercifullyannihilated. And so that is an interesting
thing when we look at the feministmovement and certainly the contours of that movement
and how it relates to the animositybetween the sexes right now, which is

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really given spring to what Andrew wastalking about in his Twitter space today,
going on the whatever podcasts engaging withmany of these OnlyFans girls that in a
way, by making some of theirbehavior pattern and opinions as equal in validity

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as those who criticize them, wenow live in a culture that sort of
celebrates promiscuity. We look at oursystem with the divorce courts and see how
men are totally held in a positionwhere they have no rights. They give
obviously alimony, they're losing their money, they're losing custody of their children,

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they're losing the lives that they built. And as has highlighted by the manosphere
multiple times, women are the leadingthey file for divorce, depending on which
demographic, but seventy to eighty percentof the time. So in a way,
certainly this could be used by theMigtau or certainly people of that bent

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talking about, well, look what'shappened. We have annihilated men due to
the elevation of the rights and interestof women. At the same time,
certainly women have valid points. Andfrom a Christian perspective, that was one
of the criticisms of Nietzsche and Schopenhauertowards Christianity is because as he's highlighting the
fallaciousness of women, it's the womenwho see the tomb empty to Christ.

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Where Christianity in a way is notelevating women, but they are highlighting that.
You know, it's the women whogave the claim that Christ had risen
from the dead that brought Peter andJohn back to search the tomb. Right,
But again the idea that you wouldn'thave, you know, multiple women

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to give claims about things. Thisis still true in Islam, where the
testimony of women you need like fourwomen for one testimony. But anyways,
we can see Christianity to some degreewas inn opposition to that. Anyways,
moving on here for the secret,unformulated, nay, unconscious, but innate

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morale of women is we are justifiedin deceiving those who because because they care
a little for us, that isto say, for the individual. Imagine,
they have obtained rights over the species, the constitution, and consequently the
welfare of the species have been putinto our hands and entrusted to our care

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through the medium of the next generationwhich proceeds from us. Let us fulfill
our duties conscientiously. But women areby no means conscious of this leading principle
in abstracto. They are only consciousof it in concreto, and have no
other way of expressing it than inthe manner in which they act when the

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opportunity arrives, so that their consciencedoes not trouble them so much as we
imagine, for in the darkest depthsof their hearts, they are conscious that
in violating their duty towards the individual, they have all the better fulfilled it
towards the species, whose claim uponthem is infinitely greater. Because women,

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in truth exists entirely for the propagationof the race, and their destiny ends
here. They live more for thespecies than for the individual, and in
their hearts take the affairs of thespecies more seriously than those of the individual.
This gives to their whole being thecharacter a certain frivolousness, and altogether

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a certain tendency which is fundamentally differentfrom that of man. And this is
and this is it is which developsthat discord in married life, which is
so prevalent and almost the normal state. Now, I would agree that women
tend to be in favor of moreof the collective, and we can see
this in American politics right when youbreak down voting demographics based on gender,

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it's quite evident that the majority ofwomen vote on a leftist side because they
tend to think in more collective termsand more emotional response. And in regards
to like personal liberty, now they'lluse OnlyFans and sort of sexual promiscuity to
talk about individual liberty, but atthe same time, you know, when

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it comes to other forms of personalproperty liberty regarding gun control and stuff like
that, they always vote in regardsto whatever the state narrative is. It
seems to be. And I thinkRachel she wanted to speak on this,
and Rachel, feel free if youwant to hop on here as we move
through it, I can send youa link. I see Rachel's there says

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wow, I have actually heard womensay this wild. It's not a new
problem. It is. It absolutelyis. And Rachel, if you want
to hop on in comment as wego through this article, feel free.
I know you're probably busy, butlet me know and I'll shoot you a
link. So, okay, movingon here, and let me make this
a little bit bigger so it's easyfor you guys to follow as we go
through here. It's kind of smallprint, so it may be still hard

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to see. Okay. It isnatural for a feeling of mere indifference to
exist between men, but between womenit is actually enimity. This is due
perhaps to the fact that odium figluineum, in the case of men, is

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limited to their everyday affairs, butwith women embraces the whole sex, since
they have only one kind of business. Even when they meet in the street,
they look at each other like guelfsand get libyans. I don't even

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know what that means, and isquite evident when two women first make each
other's acquaintance, that they exhibit moreconstraint and dissimulation than two men placed in
similar circumstances. This is why anexchange of compliments between two women is much
more ridiculous than between two men.Now, this, obviously we can agree

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with here, and this is afact right that women always compliment each other,
where men we chastise, criticize,make jokes on these others behalf.
And this is how we sort ofbuild camaraderie, where women will just lie
to each other's face they wear somethingthat is totally ugly and so oh,
I love your dress. In theirhead they're thinking, oh my god,

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thank god, I'm not wearing that. Further, while a man will as
a rule, address others, eventhose inferior to himself, with a certain
feeling of consideration and humanity, itis unbearable to see how proudly and disdainfully
a lady of rank will, forthe most part, behave towards one who
is in a lower rank, notemployed in her service, when she speaks

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to her. This may be becausedifferences of rank are much more precarious with
women than with us, and consequentlymore quickly change their line of conduct to
elevate them, or because us.While a hundred things must be weighed in
our case, there is only oneto be weighed in theirs, namely with

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which man have they found favor?And again, because of the one sided
nature of their vocation, they standin closer relationship to each other than men
do, and so it is theytry to render prominent the differences of rank.
Did Rachel respond, No, Ididn't. If Rachel responds and says

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for me to give her a link, guys, grab my attention so I
can do that. It is onlythe man whose intellect is clouded by his
sexual instinct that could be that givethe stunted, narrow shoulder, broad hipped
in short legged race. The nameof the fairer sex, for the entire

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beauty of the sex is based onthis instinct, One would be more justified
in calling them the unesthetic sex,then the beautiful. Neither for music nor
for poetry nor for fine art.Have they any real or true sense of
susceptibility? And it is mere mockeryon their part and their desire to please

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if they affect any such thing.Oh shout out to k Dot. He
throws in a five dollars super chatand said this could be in cel thinking.
But besides the obvious gray parts andretarded polyamory part, this sounds like
eighty percent accurate, especially the rankthing. Yeah, that's what I was

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saying. We could. There's alot here that we would probably agree with,
and I think most of us probablydo agree with some of it.
Once we get down here, he'sgoing to start advocating for polyamory and sort
of how it offers more sexual freedomfor women and that also men, and
that a man should be able tohave multiple wives and particularly of different ages,

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so that he can partake in hisfantasies that he desires. But anybody
who is along, you know,as a long term relationship with a woman,
knows that we think differently, wereasoned differently, we come to conclusions
very differently than women. So atthe same time, I do I,
as a Christian, do not believethem to be inferior, which this article

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argues. But we are different,and our society, based on egalitarianism of
Rachel has been incredible at criticizing,does not recognize these differences. And that's
why females can or women can nowhave testicular cancer and men can get pregnant.

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So we live in a totally invertedworld at this point. Let me
check make sure nobody send anything overon the Dono chats. Oh, we
did, and Arthur Schopenhower actually sendsme twenty dollars and says, if you
don't smash that like button, youmight wake up with my hair. For
those of you who don't know thereference, this is Arthur Schopenhauer's hairline.

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So a little bit of male patternbaldness. But thank you so much,
Arthur Schopenhauer back from the dead witha twenty dollars super chat. Really appreciate
you, brother, Thank you foreversent that in God bless and Blue Skittle
throws in five dollars no comment.Thank you so much, Blue Skittle for
all your support. Really appreciate you, brother, And make make sure nothing

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is over on the stream labs.Note we're good. Okay, let's continue
on here. This makes them incapableof taking a purely objective interest in anything,
and the reason for it is Ifancy as follows, a man strives
to get direct mastery over things,either by understanding them or by compulsion.

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True, I mean most men aretrying to master some type of skill set,
because that's how we are benefit tosociety, and we have to go
out and get it, if youwill. We have to make ourselves.
As many people have highlighted, we'rewomen because of the innate beauty. As
Arthur Schopenhauer is highlighted, they aresort of born with a value that men

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have to earn. But a womanis always, in everywhere driven to indirect
mastery, namely through a man,all her direct mastery being limited to him
alone. Therefore, it lies inwomen's nature to look upon everything only as
a means for winning a man,and her interest in anything else is always

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stimulate, a simulated one, amere roundabout way to gain her ends,
consisting in cockertry and pretense. HenceRosue Rousseau said it's in French. I'm
not sure everyone who can see througha sham must have found this to be

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the case. One need only watchthe way they behave at a concert,
the opera or the play, thechildish simplicity, for instance, with which
they keep on chattering during the finestpassages in the greatest masterpieces. It is
true that the Greeks forbade women togo to the play. They acted in

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a right way, for they wouldat any rate be able to hear something.
In our day it would be moreappropriate to substitute. Again, we
have French here, not sure whatit's saying, and this might perhaps be
put up in big letters on thecurtain. Nothing different can be expected of

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women if it is born in mindthat the most imminent of the whole sex
have never accomplished anything in the finearts that is really great, genuine and
original, or given to the worldany kind of work or permanent value.
This is most striking in regard topainting, the technique of which is a

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much within their reach as within ours. This is why they pursue it so
industriously. Now there's a caveat here, because when Arthur Schopenhauer was very old,
a young woman came to paint hisportrait, and he was enamored by
how intelligent and how artistic she was. And he had made a famous quote

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on we have not heard or ArthurSchopenhower's last words on women, because this
woman apparently challenged some of the stereotypeshe believed in, but to some degree.
To some degree, I think wecan agree that men have been more
spectacular at the highest level of artisticcreativity and engineering. It doesn't mean all

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women can't do it, but certainlythere is something there generally speaking, and
in regard to this point that wejust read before about how their whole interest
is about trying to find a man. This is part of the whole OnlyFans
phenomenon, because the reason why thesewomen are selling themselves online is because of

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the attention they desire from men.Now, it's totally in a sort of
inverted way in which they never reallyget the thing that they're after. And
we've seen many of these girls nowlament how they can't get a husband or
they can't be taken seriously, Butwhat was the impetus to sell your body
online in the first place, otherthan to garner more and more male attention

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through their sexual capital, which theyhave to offer. So again, I
think Schopenhauer makes an interesting point here. Still, they have not a single
great painting to show for the simplereason that they lack that objectivity of mind,
which is precisely what is so directlynecessary in painting. They always stick

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to what is subjective. For thisreason, ordinary women have no susceptibility for
painting at all. For Natua nonfacetsouth toum and Haarte, in his book
which has been famous for three hundredyears, contends that women do not possess
the higher capacities. Individual impartial exceptionsdo not alter the matter. Women are

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and remain I'm sorry, women arein remain taken altogether and most thorough and
incurable philistines. And because of theextremely absurd arrangement which allows them to share
the position and title of their husbands, they are a constant stimulus to his

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ignoble ambitions. And further, itis because they are Philistines that modern society
to which they give the tone,give the tone, and where they have
swemt have become corrupted. As regardstheir position, one should be guided by

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Napoleon's maxim Again it's in French,not sure exactly what it's saying. And
regarding them in other things, Chamfortsays very clearly again another thing in French
not sure what it's saying. Theyare the sexist. Sequare the second sex
in every respect. Therefore their weaknessesshould be spared. But to treat women

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with extreme reverence is ridiculous and lowersus in their own eyes. When Nature
divided the human race into two parts, she did not cut it exactly through
the middle exclamation mark. The differencebetween the positive and negative polls, according
to polarity, is not merely qualitative, but also quantitative. And it is

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in this light that the ancients andpeople of the East regarded women. They
recognize their true position better than we. With our old French ideas of gallantry
and absurd veneration to the highest productof Christian to Teutonic stupidity, these ideas
have only served to make them arrogantand imperious, to such an extent as

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to remind one at times of theholy apes in veneris, who, in
the consciousness of their holiness and inviability, think they can do anything and everything
they please. In the West,the woman, that is to say,
the lady, finds herself in afalse position. For women rightly named by

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the ancients is by no means againstsexists. Sequier the second sex is by
no means fit to be the objectof our honor and veneration, or to
hold her head higher than men andto have the same rights as he.
And this is interesting as again Iwish Rachel was here because it gets into

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the criticisms of female voting and wherethe Western countries have gone due to allowing
more emotional emotional approaches to sort ofrationalistic needed problems. But again, I'll
let you guys decide, and feelfree to send in your comments and opinions
on everything that's being said here.The consequences of the false position are sufficiently

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clear. Accordingly, it would bea very desirable thing if this number two
of the human race in Europe wereassigned her natural position and the lady grievance
got rid of, which is notonly ridiculed by the whole of Asia,
but would have been equally ridiculed byGreece and Rome. The result of this

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would be that the condition of oursocial, civil, and political affairs would
be incalculably improved. I think hemight make a point there. The Sallik
law would be unnecessary. It wouldbe a suplicicous truism. The European lady,
strictly speaking, as a creature whoshould not exist at all, whoa

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strong language there. But there oughtto be housekeepers and young girls who hope
to become such, and they shouldbe brought up not to be arrogant,
but to be domesticated and submissive.Exactly because there are ladies in Europe that
women of a lower standing, thatis to say, the greater majority of

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the sex, are much more unhappythan they are in the East. Even
Lloyd Byron says, according to ThomasMoore, thought of the state of women
under the ancient Greeks convenient enough presentpresent state a remnant of the barbarism of
the chivalric and feudal ages, andartificial and unnatural. They ought to mind

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home and be well fed and clothed, but not mixed in society. Well
educated too in religion, but toread neither poetry nor politics, nothing but
books of piety and cookery, music, drawing, dancing, also a little
gardening and plowing. Now and thenI have seen them mending the roads in

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ePRESS with good success. Why notas well as haymaking and milking. Now
I feel very fortunate that my fiancedoes have the desire to be a home
maker. She wants to be astay at home wife, she wants to
be with the children. And sothese types of questions don't really emerge in
our relationship. Now let me letme replace my zen little stimulus here.

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So let me throw this bad boyin real quick and we will continue on
guys, smash that like for everybodywho's here. Again, we're reading nineteenth
century work by Arthur Schopenhauer on womenin our part of the world, where
monogamy is in force. To marrymeans to have one's rights and double one's

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duties. Now, this section hereis where as a Christian we're going to
diverge, because marriage is a sacrament. Marriage is something in which we devote
ourselves to another person in the effortto martyr and become one closer to Christ.
And so you can either martyr yourselfby marrying Christ and becoming a monastic,

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which is a life of celibacy,or you can become a householder,
a married man and have children,and this is something to be celebrated.
And monogamy is the way in whichChrist said that marriage should work. So
the way that we understand marriage isa sacramental vocation between two people, where

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he views it as obviously a lesseningof men's wealth, his rights, and
doubling his responsibilities and duties, ofwhich I think from a Christian perspective,
we would celebrate that growth and responsibility, that growth and maturation, and that
creating of a family. When thelaws granted women the same rights as man,

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they should also have given her amasculine power of reason. On the
contrary, though, just as theprivileges and honors which the laws decree to
women surpass that what nature has metedout to them, so is there a
proportional decrease and the number of womenwho really share these privileges. Therefore the

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remainder are deprived of their natural rights, and so far as the others have
been given more than nature accords them. For the unnatural position of privilege which
the institution of monogamy and the lawsof marriage which accompany it, assigned to
the woman, whereby she is regardedthroughout as a full equivalent of the man,

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which she is not by any means. Because intelligent and prudent men to
reflect a great deal before they makesuch a great sacrifice and consent to such
an unfair and arrangement. Therefore,and this is again you can clearly see
that the moral worth of a womanversus man, for Schopenhauer is not Christian.

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So from our perspective, women aremade in the image of God,
and they have just as much worthas a man does. But agreeing with
him in regards to the faculties,and maybe the predispositions of men and women
are certainly different. And that's whereour culture today. And maybe as he
was seeing the beginning of the Enlightenment, he was kind of pushing against this.

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Now at the same time he wassort of a progressive that was okay
with pederaste and homosexuality. And obviouslythis particular paragraph right here he's gonna make
an argument for polygamy. But anyways, I digress. Let's move on.
Therefore, while amongst polygamous nations everywoman finds maintenance, where monogamy exists,

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the number of married women is limited, and a countless number of women who
are without support remain. Over Thosein the upper classes vegetate as useless old
maids. Those in the lower arereduced to very hard work of a distasteful
nature, or become prostitutes and leada life which is as joyous as it

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is void of honor. But undersuch circumstances they become a necessity to the
masculine sex, so that their positionis openly recognized as a special means for
protecting from seduction those other women favoredby fate either to have found husbands or

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hope to find them. And Londonalone there are over eighty thousand prostitutes.
Then what are these women who havecome too quickly to this most terrible end?
Must human sacrifices, but okay,most terrible inn but human sacrifices on
the altar of monogamy. So monogamyis responsible for prostitution. The women here

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referred to, and who are placedin this wretched position, are the inevitable
counterbalance to the European lady with herpretensions and arrogance. Hence, polygamy is
a real benefit to the female sex, to and taking it as a whole.
And on the other hand, thereis no reason why a man whose

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wife suffers from chronic illness, orremains barren, or has gradually become too
old for him should not take asecond wife. Many people become converts to
Mormonism for the precise reasons that theycondemn the unnatural institution of monogamy. Now,
obviously you can find natural instances,particularly in birds and a few other

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species, in which monogamy is thecase. But he's trying to make a
naturalistic claim for polygamy. The conferringof unnatural rights upon women has imposed unnatural
duties upon them, the violation ofwhich, however, makes them unhappy.
For example, many a man thinksmarriage unadvisable as far as his social standing

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and monetary position are concerned, unlesshe contracts a brilliant match. He will
then wish to win a woman ofhis own choice under different conditions, namely
under those which will render safe herfuture and that of her children. Be
the conditions, ever so, justreasonable and adequate consents by giving up those

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undue privileges which marriage, as thebasis of a civil society alone can proportion
to its value. While if thewoman does not consent, she runs the
risk of being compelled to marry aman she dislikes, or of shriveling up
into an old maid, for thetime allotted to her to find a home

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is very short. In view ofthis side of the institution of monogamy.
Thomasius profoundly learned treatises day. Essentially, the concubine is well worth reading,
for it shows that among all nationsand in all ages, down to the
Lutheran Reformation, concubinage was allowed,nay that it was an institution in a

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certain measure, even recognized by law, and associated with no dishonor. And
it held this position until the LutheranReformation, when it was recognized as another
means for justifying the marriage of theclergy, whereupon the Catholic party did not
dare remain behind handed in the matter. It is useless to argue about polygamy,

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and must be taken as a factexisting everywhere in the mere regulation of
which is the problem to be solved. Where are there than any real monogamoust
we all live at any rate fora time, and the majority of us
always in polygamy. Consequently, aseach man needs many women, nothing is

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more than just to let him,nay, make it incumbent upon him to
provide for many women. By thismeans, woman will be brought back to
her proper and natural place as asubordinate being, and the lady. The
monster of European civilization and Christian teutonicstupidity with her ridiculous claim to respect and

(01:03:07):
veneration will no longer exist. Therewill still be women, but no unhappy
women of whom Europe is at presentfull. The Mormon standpoint is right.
Willie Jenkins shout out to you,brother, throws in ten dollars and he
says, eat, pray, love. Yeah, exactly, appreciate you,

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brother, Thanks so much for thesupport. So okay, moving on here,
he's making his claim for we're aboutthe end of the article here,
so again, if you guys haveany comments, feel free to send those
in. I'd be open to here. In fact, we can open up
the panel. If you guys wantto jump on, feel free. I'll
open it up. I'll post thelink here in the live chat and if

(01:03:53):
you guys have any opinion, youcould, feel free and we can kind
of reflect over this article. Solet me go ahead and put that in.
I'll grab the link, invite copy. If you want to join the
stream, use this link and thenwe'll open it up and we'll have a

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little bit of a conversation about thearticle. Here in India, no woman
is ever independent, but each onestands under the control of her father.
Or her husband or brother or son, in accordance with the law of Manu.
It is certainly a revolting idea thatwidows should sacrifice themselves on their husband's

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dead body, but is also revoltingthat the money which the husband has earned
by working diligently all his life,and the hope that he was working for
his children, should be wasted onher paramours. The first love of a
mother, as that of animals andmen, is purely instinctive, consequently ceases

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when the child is no longer physicallyhelpless. After that, the first love
should be reinstated by a love basedon habit and reason, but this is
often does not appear, especially wherethe mother has not loved the father.
The love of the father for hischildren is of a different nature and more
sincere. It is founded on arecognition of his own inner self in the

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child, and is therefore metaphysical inits origin. Okay, this is the
last paragraph here, and almost everynation, both of the New and old
world, and even among the hottentots, don't even know who they are.
Property is inherited by the male descendantsalone. It is only in Europe that

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one has departed from this that theproperty which men have with difficulty acquired by
long, continued struggling and hard work, should afterwards come in the hands of
women, who, in their wantof reason, either slander it within a
short time or otherwise wasted. Isan injustice as great as it is common,

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and it should be prevented by limitingthe right of women to inherit.
It seems to me that it wouldbe better arrangement if women, by their
widows or daughters, only inherited themoney for life secured by mortgage, but
not property itself or the capital,unless they're lacked male descendants. It is

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men who make the money, notwomen. Therefore, women are neither justified
in having unconditional possession of it,nor capable of administrating it. Women should
never have the free disposition of wealthstrictly so called which they may inherent,
such as capital, houses, andestates. They need a guardian always.

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Therefore, they should have the guardianshipof their children under any circumstances. Whatever.
The vanity of women, even ifit should not be greater than that
of men, has this evil init that it is directed on material things,
that is to say, on theirpersonal beauty, and then on tensil

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pomp and show this is why theyare in their right element in society,
that it is which makes them inclinedto be extravagant, especially since they possess
little reasoning power. Accordingly, anancient writer says, men's vanity, on
the other hand, is often directedon non material advantages, such as intellect,

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learning, courage, and the like. Risotto explains in the Politics the
great disadvantages which the Spartans brought uponthemselves by granting too much to their women,
by allowing them the right of inheritanceand dowry in a great amount of
freedom, and how this contributed greatlyto the fall of Sparta. May it

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not be the influence of women inFrance, which have been increasing since Louis
the eighth is Time or Louis thethirteenth is Time, was to blame for
that gradual corruption of the court andgovernment which led to the First Revolution,
of which all subsequent disturbances have beenthe result. In any case, the

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false position of the female sex,so conspicuously exposed by the existence of the
lady, is a fundamental defect inour social condition, and this defect,
proceeding from the very heart of it, must extend its harmful influence in every
direction. That women is by natureintended to obey is shown by the fact

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that every woman who is placed inthe unnatural position of absolute independence at once
attaches herself to some kind of manby whom she is controlled and governed.
This is because she requires a master. If she is young, the man
is a lover. If she isold, a priest. And this concludes

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Schopenhauer's article on women. So youcan say some of the things we certainly
might agree with here, I openit up. If you guys are interested
in joining the stream. Anybody hassome opinions they would like to discuss,
join the stream here. If not, I have a series of Bible versus

(01:09:34):
on women, because obviously some ofthe things he's talking about we could probably
appreciate from a Biblical perspective, inthat women, for example, are not
to be led over men, particularlyin regard to the church. And that's
why again Orthodoxy and the papacy itlooks like they're moving towards allowing female deaconesses,

(01:09:58):
which of course we see the Fortemitesand Orthodoxy beginning to promote the blessing
of same sex marriage. But asPaul says, women are not supposed to
lead the congregation, but we lookat our society in a sense, it's
a totally feminized Western world. Andmaybe Schopenhauer was right here. Now again,

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he was also in favor of pederastiand homosexuality, so certainly wasn't coming
from a Christian perspective. He hatedChristianity and Judaism and was very much in
favor of the Vedas. He wasvery much in favor of many Buddhist teachings.
But yeah, it's interesting. Nonetheless, Donald Bestermann says, epic insight

(01:10:45):
achieved. Well, thank you somuch, Donald, Glad you enjoyed the
article. Again, this is somethingthat I saw being passed around in the
manosphere and some of the red Pilldiscussions, and none of them actually read
the full article. Many of themwere conversations about the article, giving their
own sort of take on it.But I thought it would be better to

(01:11:05):
read the entire article to you guys, and that's exactly what we did here.
So I hope you guys enjoyed it. Uh, Kyrie says, or
Kirie says, I have bad internet, or I would Anela the Chanter says,
children are treated like trash. Okay, So anyways, Heidi says,

(01:11:32):
the children, the children are childrenof children that were ponds, the multi
generational Now, yeah, you know, and that's where some of these OnlyFans
girls like the one that Andrew wastalking to, where her dad supported her
of account, and where she's doing, you know, incredibly degenerate stuff and

(01:11:55):
she sent him money, sent himmoney. Uh, that is wild beyond
belief. That we live in asociety and where these girls they have no
real direction. And so Schopenhauer talkingabout how women need to be under the
guide of their husband or their fatheror their brothers. I certainly think they

(01:12:15):
would make better dating decisions if theydid that. I think men are better
at judging other men than women.But the fact that we live in a
society now where these girls are makingall this money on OnlyFans, which is
due to an effeminization of men.And this is where we could agree again
with Arthur Schopenhauer, that men getcaught in these sort of sexual fantasies of

(01:12:38):
lust and that is a weakness,that is absolutely a weakness which we see
in our society, and that simpculture is what's elevating the female degeneracy and
promiscuity in our culture. It's hardlitree and I don't think we can turn
away. And this is where mydisagreement would be with the red Pill.
I don't think you can correct thatby just talking about it. The only

(01:13:00):
thing you can correct is by menbecoming faithful to God and living more pious,
righteous lives and forcing women that ifthey want those type of men,
then they have to fall into thosebehavior patterns and those traditions. I don't
think that. This where I agreewith Andrew. You know, you've got
to go on to these places andpotentially talk to and promote our ideas,

(01:13:25):
But I don't see how without areligious foundation one is going to be successful
in curing the modern ales of sexualrelationships, male female relationships, all this
type of stuff. I think it'skind of doomed if we're just going to
prescribe remedies from a sort of secularmaterialistic perspective, because that's kind of what

(01:13:45):
led to it. Yeah, exactly, I totally agree with this. It
says the red Pill is secular materialismin disguise, and that's why it's ultimately
a dead end in regards to theprescription in the curing of the ailments which
they speak about. And this iswhy you know, at least Rollo is
honest where he says he doesn't giveprescriptions. He just is a descriptor,

(01:14:08):
now, whether you believe that ornot. And I hope to have Rollo
in an open panel one day totalk about various topics. But I would
say, that's fine, leave theprescriptions to us. Orthodox Christians will give
the prescriptions. You don't want togive prescriptions because he doesn't want to get
into religion and philosophy and this typeof stuff, well that's fine, we
will do that. We will givethe prescriptions because coming at this topic or

(01:14:32):
these problems that modern men phase froma secular materialist perspective is only going to
lead back to many of the thingsthat Schopenhauer supported. So he he was
in favor of sort of eugenics.He believed that again, he was okay
with pederasity and homosexuality, even thoughhe considered it an advice. It was

(01:14:54):
okay because it didn't lead to moremore societal evils regarding the propagation more people.
So it's interesting that Schopenhauer is kindof the first doom or Blackpill Migtwel
before that entire movement happened. Sothat's why I thought this was an interesting
article to read. Ones He says, it's because of the simp of suburb

(01:15:18):
feels like they are connecting to thewoman. He is providing for someone and
gets to komb for it. No, you're You're exactly right that these guys
that send in all these money tothese women, this is an inverted form
of a provider masculine behavior. Thatthey are total coomers. They can't control

(01:15:38):
from cooming, they can't control themselves, they can't control their mental fantasies,
which they are all tied to sex, and so they send in money to
these harlots thinking that they're connecting withthem and they're providing for them. And
it's like, no, dude,you're not providing for anybody. You're totally
inverting the sexual dynamic in which thatand agreeing to some degree with Schopenhauer is

(01:16:00):
natural. It's natural for a manto be a leader. It's natural for
a woman to be at home withthe children and a housemaker. It's natural
for her to be a nurturer.It's natural for the man to go out
and be concerned with money and societyand rational endeavors. That's natural. But
these guys, they don't do anythingin society. They somehow they have money.

(01:16:21):
I'm not sure where exactly they Simpingain't easy, as Ac says,
it ain't. I'm not sure wherethey get all their money, but the
fact that they just again, whetherthey're in a basement, you know,
the stereotype is they're in the basementof their mom's house. Whatever they do,
clearly they're making money. Maybe they'recoders or they work for tech company.
I don't know. But it's atotally inverted form of masculinity. Tristan

(01:16:45):
says, who's Arthur Schopenhower? Doeshe have an of link? He probably
would if of existed, because again, as we looked at some of the
women which he wanted to be polyamorouswith. I mean, Arthur Schopenhower in
a way was a coomer. Imean he gave arguments for polyamory and sexual

(01:17:06):
promiscuity due to it being natural.It's being natural, and that pederastan homosexual
was against nature. But in away it was okay because nature is a
sort of beastial, monstrous female figurethat's trying to consume all that's living,
especially the man. The man mustnot conform to nature, he must resist

(01:17:28):
it. And that is interesting becausehe makes it. Well, we're not
going to get into all the racialstuff we talked about, because that definitely
get the stream taken off. Butthat's why I titled it Inceell because he
was an in cell. Later inhis life, now he probably paid prostitutes
and stuff like that. But hewas certainly sort of a coomer because his

(01:17:50):
whole thing about having these girlfriends andpromoting polyamory was so that he could have
more sexual options. You kind ofallah Andrew Tait, and of course Chaupinha
came from a very wealthy family wherehe had plenty of resources to pay for
all these women. So no doubtSchopenhauer was a sort of coomer for sure.

(01:18:11):
Yeah, Tristan says, it's natural, every pervert new Age Collier.
It's true. It's true. Andthis is why his he was against monogamy,
because monogamy is not natural. Polyamory'snatural. Look at the animals,
and so we need to have multiplewives, you know, and as he
kind of highlighted at different ages,so you maybe you have your old maid

(01:18:32):
wife that you had some children with, then you have a younger wife,
and then maybe you have your nineteenyear old wife as he had. His
girlfriend was nineteen, she was adancer who already had children out of wedlock,
and then he wanted to take herwith him to Berlin. I mean
so, even though he had manythings that we might agree from a biblical

(01:18:54):
perspective in regards to the relationship orattributes between men and women, he is
a sort of blackpilled coumer that Ithink is like the Migtaw movement before the
Migtow rock retro. Callipse throws infive dollars and says, it's a mistake
to think, OHF supporters are allbasement dwellers. True, plenty of successful

(01:19:17):
men out there raised on Disney andporn with no direction. It's true.
It's absolutely true. I've actually talkedwith people and I was blown away that
they actually had an of account andthey subscribed to some of these girls.
And these were guys that you wouldthink were halfway decent looking, they had

(01:19:38):
decent jobs, and yet again theycan't control themselves. They can't control their
sexual appetite, they can't control theirsexual fantasies and it leads into more degeneracy.
And then and then it's interesting theywant to talk about, uh,
you know, finding a wife oror can't can't get a good girlfriend,
and it's like, dude, youjerk off the OnlyFans girls? What are

(01:19:59):
you talking about? Like you're contributingto the thing that you say that you're
you're frustrated with. What are youdoing? What are you doing? It
doesn't make any sense. But yeah, I agree with the point you're making
that not all O f supported.It's sort of a stereotype, right,
But I've never met an incredibly traditionallymasculine man that falls victim to this stuff
because I think that if you're reallytrying to pursue, especially a sort of

(01:20:23):
biblical form of masculinity, you're notgoing to fall victim to this stuff because
it's degenerated, it's sinful, Itdegrades your soul. You lose the energies
of God by participating in it.So no doubt about that. Thank you
very much for that comment. Andslow Boy Whiteboard says, I want to

(01:20:44):
know his ideas on the other races. We need paywall content. Well,
I could do that behind the paywallon the website. But let's just say
one of the things. So hewas very much in favor of Northern European
culture as pinnacle of creation. Andhe saw it as natural for people with

(01:21:06):
let's say European phenotypes to pursue thoseof more African stereo phenotypes. And so
he thought, again this is heargued, we have to fight nature and
to preserve Again he was he wasactually a promoter of eugenics before it was

(01:21:28):
fully informed. So yeah, andNietzsche was his progenitor. Schopenhauer was his
mentor. And of course we knowNietzsche he was into gay prostitutes and heterosexual
prostitutes, and he participated in anorgy with one of his best friends,
of which he then later proposed tothe girl. They had a I think
it was a threesome with and shedeclined Nietzsche and ran away with the other

(01:21:54):
guy. So Nietzsche is just likeSchopenhauer is another sexually frustrated philosoph for German
philosopher. So yeah, interesting tonote there for sure. Jase Owen says
the black male will be primarily usedagainst those who have the balls to stand
up against them. They will evenmake things up if they have to in

(01:22:15):
order to convince the normies we areall dangerous. Yeah, well that's already
an effect for sure, Kiri says. If I was rich, i'd tried
to make enough money not to work, I wouldn't give it to a ran
through holes. Yeah, I thinkmost of us should for as well.
Yeah, Nietscha got destinied. That'sprobably true. That's probably true. Nietscha

(01:22:46):
thought friendship with women is impossible,that women are like cows at best.
Well, I'm certainly not in favor. If you're a man in like a
marriage, I don't think you needto be having a bunch of female friends.
I've mentioned this before. I don'tknow exactly what female friends off for
a man on purpose, especially atraditional man. Not that I'm not friends

(01:23:09):
with the wives of my friends,So I think you can have a friendly
relationship with a woman. All thosethat I'm friendly with are all married to
basically my friends, and I thinkthat's much more natural than I see these
guys and girls like, oh,yeah, my best friend is a guy,
or yeah, I have a reallyclose girlfriend, she's one of my

(01:23:30):
best friends. It's like, whatdo you guys talk about? How exactly
is one of your best friends awoman? But yeah, interesting stuff.
Let me check the Dono chat tosee if anybody send anything in nothing on
the Dono chat. We do havea super chat that came in over on
the stream labs. Let me pullthat one up and Matt Vee throws in

(01:23:56):
five dollars and says, I've alwaysviewed the Black Pill and dating as realism,
but it's also a satanic perversion.They idolize dark triad traits and serial
killers. It's almost like a darkmysticism. Though the bluepill idea of soulmates
doesn't exist in orthodoxy. No,we don't know the idea of a soulmate
in its like general sense, likethere's one person on the planet for you,

(01:24:19):
makes no sense just logistically because iftwo people got with somebody who wasn't
their soulmate, it's like a dominoeffect where now so many people may not
be able to find their one soulmate. But I do think obviously certain people
match much better than other people.And having tradition, having religion, having

(01:24:40):
explicit morals and values, these arewhat men have to stand up for if
they're going to actually find a conducivewife. So I don't know. Anyways,
guys, it doesn't look like anybodywants to hop on, and it
looks like all the super chats havebeen sent in. If you guys have
any questions, feel free to sendanything in right now. If not,
I'm gonna hop off. Matt Vsays, Yeah, it's almost like a

(01:25:05):
Hindu Lutheran predestined idea. It is, and it's not orthodox. It's not
orthodox. But at the same time, certainly certain individuals are more in lined
with your values and a successful marriagethan others. But okay, maybe I

(01:25:25):
missed that one. Kiri says,I would hate being friends with girls that
aren't my family. Yeah, Idon't get the point generally speaking, Like,
Okay, I'm friends with Rachel Wilson, that's the wife of my friend
Andrew Wilson. But we don't sitand have a bunch of private text conversations
and I'm telling her about all theintricacies of my personal life. I don't

(01:25:45):
get that. I don't get menthat do that, he said. Martin
Luther Schopenhauer, that's hilarious. Okay, told you so, says, it's
not that you if you are Catholicor goo I'm not sure what that means.

(01:26:06):
Maybe they meant to put EO dangerousor life is doom. Only it's
that you are silly and an actof why we can't get anything simple right
on purpose. Well, your commentmade very little sense and I have no

(01:26:26):
idea what you're trying to say,but I do appreciate you being here.
God bless you told you so Jesuswas arrested in a public park at four
am with a naked boy. Nologos, is Heraclitis, etc. What
a dumb comment. So clearly youhave maybe double digit IQ. Yeah.

(01:26:50):
The logos is a concept developed byHeraclitis, later developed by Plato, Aristotle,
Stoicism neo Platonism had different conceptions oflogos to the Christian Church that was
forming and regarding to the incarnation ofthe logos. And you are a degenerate
to assume that God incarnate was apediast. So I assume that you probably

(01:27:13):
have a of account and you aresubscribed to many of these promiscuous women based
on what you just said. SoI appreciate you. God bless you.
I hope you find God exactly profilepig checks out, it does it does
this person's only advancing the stereotypes.So yeah, probably a pagan pedo.

(01:27:43):
As for joining the Orthodox Church,is it okay if I could only attend
once a month, Well, goto an Orthodox church and then talk to
the priest about that. That's notfor me to decide. Given your context,
on your situation, how close orfar away you are from a parish.
That's totally dependent on the situation andrelationship you're gonna have with your priest,

(01:28:05):
and he'll have be better to adviseagain, what would be good for
your soul? I yes, Irecommend attending as much as you can.
I pretty much go every single Sunday, even when I'm out of town.
I try to go to an Orthodoxchurch somewhere. But Mud renews his membership

(01:28:26):
for nine months. Thank you somuch, Mud, He says, I'm
thirty three and never had a girlfriend. I've been pursued by plenty. I
just prefer solitude. Now that Iwant kids, all I see is degeneracy.
Where do I begin, Well,that's a tough one. Would I
would recommend, Oh, thank youMud for gifting a membership. God bless

(01:28:48):
you brother. I would recommend thechurch. I'd recommend traditional women, but
a traditional woman who's actually gonna havethe values we would hope as men.
They're only going to follow you ifyou're also a traditional man. So that's
where I think the red pill comesto a dead end because it doesn't promote

(01:29:09):
anything transcendent for the man to follow, and therefore he himself is going to
succumb to his own materialistic, sortof secular vices in different ways. So
God bless you, Mud, Iwould advise if you're looking for a woman
that build a family with, tofind a woman that's in the church,

(01:29:29):
one that believes in Christ, onethat has the values that you're looking for,
but that involve also, again Idon't know your spiritual situation, Mud,
if you're in the church already ornot, you may be, I
would recommend starting there, and frommy experience and many of the men that
I've talked to, especially with anOrthodoxy, because obviously most of us are
looking for women to get married to, it sort of comes once you're ready

(01:29:54):
for that situation, and you knowGod will provide you with the right woman,
the right bride when you are theright man for that situation. So
there's no single answer to it.What's the point of marriage if it's devolved

(01:30:14):
in heaven. Well it's not.It's a sacrament of the Church. So
you have an Orthodox icon. Butthe comment you're making doesn't make any sense.
You either you either martyr yourself tothe person you marry, or you
martyr yourself to Christ and become amonastic. So I'm not sure why you
have an Orthodox icon and then arequestioning the point of marriage because the Church

(01:30:35):
is pretty explicit on that, andso is Christ. So I would say
take it up with Christ in thechurch, Okay, Michael says, I
think that Schopenhauer's pointing to problems comingout of the Enlightenment are correct agreed in
regards to women. However, hissolutions are not correct, but because it
does not come from Christ, Itotally agree with you, Michael. That's

(01:30:57):
exactly my point as well. Ithink that article there's much that we might
agree with in regards to the differencesin the differences between men and women,
but moving towards polygamy being okay,with prostitution being okay, with pederasty and
homosexuality, I don't think if hesaw the society the Western world in twenty

(01:31:20):
twenty three, I think maybe he'dwant to correct some of this stuff.
But again, he was a devoutatheist, hated Christianity, hated Judaism,
and therefore was against everything that itpromoted. So I agree with you,
brother, I totally agree with you. Ac threw in a super chat and

(01:31:40):
said married female friends can be madeto bring beer. Yeah, exactly.
I don't have female friends except forthe wives of my friends, and that
works out just fine. I'm notsure what exactly I would have in common
or to talk about, or whatthe utility would be to have a bunch

(01:32:00):
of female friends. So totally agreewith that, brother. So anyways,
guys, I think that's going todo the stream. We're going to get
out of here before the two hourmark. I want to thank all you
guys for being here smashed that likeI hope you found this stream interesting.
And I want to give a specialthanks to all the super chatters. Thank

(01:32:21):
you Blue Skittle, Thank you ArthurSchopenhauer from coming from the grave and sending
a twenty dollars super chat. Reallyappreciate that. Thank you k Dot for
becoming a new member. Thank youthe new Cooler, Will Smith, thank
you petra Grade, Thank you retrocupltI can never get it out. Retro

(01:32:43):
callipse. There we go for thesuperchats. Thank you Ama Tam, thank
you k Dot, thank you WillieJenkins, thank you Mud and thank you
for gifting and membership. Brother.Really appreciate you. Thank you ac Over
on stream Labs. Thank you MattVey. Thank you. There's another one

(01:33:03):
I believe, wasn't there. Yeah, and thank you not doctor vagisil for
you guys to support. Really appreciatethat again, smash that like, I
wish you all nothing but the best, and I wish you guys if you're
looking for a wife and you're lookingfor a woman to spend your life with,
you know, it's it's a journeyand there's no real solution. You

(01:33:25):
know, going to bars and clubsisn't going to find the woman you're looking
for. I think the church isthe only answer. And I think your
prayer life, your relationship to Godand becoming the best man that you can
be is going to eventually, throughprovidence, bring you the woman that you
really want. Another super chat camein from Matt Vey. Let me bring
that up real quick. He throwsin another five dollars and he says blackpill

(01:33:46):
seems to be the Nietzsche of ourmodern day nihilistic deconstructionism, with not much
to give for deeper transcendental meaning.Yeah, well, and it's true.
And that's where against so many ofthese guys end up where their race is
really the only thing that they arein support of because of their materialistic presuppositions.

(01:34:10):
And it is a black bill.And I'm certainly not against you being
proud wherever you're from and whoever youare of your heritage. I think that
should be glorified. Obviously European ancestrydoesn't seem to be given that privilege,
but it is totally totally nihilistic.And these guys then become incredibly antagonistic to

(01:34:33):
all women. They become antagonistic tothe concept of marriage. It doesn't make
a whole lot of sense. TomBomba Dell says, don't just wait for
a woman, lay the groundwork,better yourself, and pay attention to the
girls, their actions, their demeanor, and their utterances. This guy's will

(01:34:56):
have you gray and dry before youfind one. Okay, I don't think
men get dry. But the pointis, if you really want a beautiful
marriage, I think only God cangive you that spouse, and that that
is something that you have to becomethe best man. You need to make

(01:35:17):
money, you need to find yourcareer, you need to have a purpose
so that then the woman can actuallyfollow you. And that's been my experience.
In many of the Orthodox men I'vetalked to you, that's been their
experience as well. So and Rebeccasays, as a woman may not be
as far on their Christian journey asa man seeking a wife, I think
to a certain extent, it's moreimportant to locke or to look I'm sorry

(01:35:40):
for a solid foundation and their potentialto grow in the faith. Yeah.
I don't think a woman and canfully follow a man unless she also follows
God, because what exactly is thepurpose is just going to be material.
It's going to be your wealth,it's going to be your status, and
if those things change, well,then the woman's loyalty and loyalty to you
is certainly going to change. Ithink what you need is a woman who

(01:36:01):
believes in God, and you needto become that God fearing man that can
provide, protect and lead. Andyou know, I know of many successful
marriages where the Orthodox man they foundCatholic girls or good Protestant pious girls,
and they've been able to bring theminto the church and lead them into the
correct direction. So yeah, Ithink I think that you know, we

(01:36:26):
have to be certainly God fearing tomake the correct decision in regards to a
mate. So I'll leave it atthat. Thank you very much Rebecca for
your comment. Smash that light,guys, and I will be back potentially
tomorrow or Sunday. I got extremeon remote viewing and secret CIA operations,
the history of Baphomet and Freemasonry andrevolutionary movements. So these are three streams

(01:36:50):
I got coming, So keep thatlocked and make sure if you're a website
member go check out the new contentover on the website. We got many
new videos and I will catch youall then as always, until next time, God bless

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