My NEW BOOK is LIVE! Return to Babylon: From Adam and Antichrist!

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
The hell. All right, Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This
is doctor David Patrick Carey with Church of the Eternal Logos.
And today today is a special stream. Today is one

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that I will always remember. And you say, Patrick, why
is today such a special day? Well, if you guys
looked at the thumbnail, you'll know that today is the
launch of my new book, Returned to Babylon from Adam
to Antichrist, born out of my doctoral dissertation, took years
to put together, through all the research, the writing, the editing,

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and then of course going through the academy and doing
all that stuff, and just so happened that the day
correlates with my thirty sixth birthday. Now, not much is
two inches sing about a thirty sixth birthday, But shout
out to everybody who's had their thirty sixth birthday. I
know somebody in the chat said they just had had theirs.

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Let me see if I can find their name. Who
was that? Anyways, it's not showing up, but God bless
you brother, whoever it was. You just had your thirty sixth.
But today is the culmination of years and years of
work for me. This is gonna be very memorable for me,
and so today we're just gonna hang out, and I

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was gonna guy and show you guys kind of the
inside contents, the scoop, the the back backstage insights in
regards to the bookmaking process and me getting this published
and just kind of hang out with you guys for
a couple hours. It's not too scripted today. We don't
have a thesis, we're not going to be deep diving
into any particular topic. I really just wanted to come

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on here and just kind of reflect with you guys,
because for me, at least, this is a big milestone
or what I envision is my career, my life, the
things that I've been trying to build. And as you
guys know, I decided not to pursue the traditional university
route that people go through when they try to get

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their PhD, which is becoming more and more common actually
that people are trying to figure out a way in
which to monetize off some type of academic skill set
outside of the university because the universities are so corrupted.
And so I remember very vividly living in California and
deciding I was going to create a YouTube channel called

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Church of the Eternal Logos, and I was going to
try to build a platform that had zero subscribers so
that when I finished my PhD, I could have my
own digital platform and classroom and I wouldn't be behold
into any university. And so basically that's what I've been
doing ever since. So during my coursework, during the last

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semester of my coursework is really when I put this
YouTube channel together, and it was when I began visiting
Orthodox churches, and you guys know the story. Basically did
a course on Eastern Orthodox philosophy, theology, history, and from
there became essentially convinced that Orthodoxy was the case. And

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that worked on me slowly and months go by, and
eventually moved from like a Protestant Christianity that thinks Orthodox
theology is really cool, to yeah, I need to join
the Orthodox Church. And then that eventually started when I
took my life savings at the time and moved out
of Berkeley and moved back to Indiana and began doing

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this YouTube channel that took basically nine months to make
any money from because the first videos I was making
would maybe get forty views, seventy views. Of course, I
had another YouTube channel promoting psychedelics at the time, but
this was one for me trying to explain why I'm
Orthodox and why I have the worldview I have. So

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for me, at least regarding this journey. Church of the
Eternal Logos is the platform. This year, from being thirty
five to thirty six, I've gotten married. My wife just
received her green card. This was actually September eleventh, so
good things can happen on nine to eleven, nine to eleven,

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twenty twenty five, just a couple of weeks ago. We
had to do an interview with immigration and we passed,
and so she now has her green card. She's a
permanent resident in the US. We've applied for housing. We're
still trying to hear back how you know, you guys
know what the market's like. So trying to start my

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life with my family. I finished my PhD this year.
I defended that in May of twenty twenty five, and
so this year, this last year, I think was a
huge year, and it's sort of a transitional year for me,
moving into a new stage of my life. And part
of that was wanting to publish something. So I do
have some things published. Sadly, sadly, one work that I've

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deleted so it's no longer exists, but somebody has cited
it on academia dot edu and stuff was a master's
paper I wrote talking about shamanistic archetypes, gnosticism, and Jesus
during my master's degree. This is before I was orthodox.
I cringe it even thinking about it, but I was

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basically the only thing that I've ever like truly published,
and instead of going to the conferences, I was asked
to submit papers to various conferences. During There's a couple
of papers I wrote that professors recommended that I go
to a conference. But at that point I basically decided
I'm not going to do the traditional university route. I
want to be my own man. I want to be

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an academic and an intellectual that basically just builds his
own thing and isn't dependent upon anybody or anyone. Obviously,
I'm depending upon the social media platforms. Wouldn't be able
to do what I'm doing without those. But outside of that,
and cos being my boss fairly free it. And so
I was just reflecting yesterday today being my birthday, how

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fortunate I am, how grateful I am to God for
my journey. My God, you can look up videos from
like four years ago where I'm complaining about trying to
find a wife. Now I have my wife, Now we're married,
Now we're starting our life. And I just finished the PhD.
And I just began to publish my first book. So
I'm so freaking excited to have this thing live and

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available for you guys. You've heard me be talking about
it for what the last four months, and so ah
shout out to Patristic Faith. Hey, I caught some of
your interview earlier. Brother. That was great. That was fantastic, man,
Thank you very much for the birthday wish. God bless you. Brother.
Really appreciate you. Friendship, you know, father Deacon doctor father

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Deacon doctor Annonaias you know, we've been friends at least
online for a while, I think basically the first year.
I really once I began live streaming on YouTube, Uh,
we became friends. And then I've been fortunate enough to
spend time with him and his wife in Montana in California.

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We had a great time in California. And so appreciate you, brother.
And uh, this one of the things that I found
myself doing more this year for my birthday is telling
people how much I appreciate them. Like today, I have
two old friends that live about an hour away from me,
and them and their wives are gonna drive down and

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we're gonna go get pizza and beer tonight. So that's
how we're gonna celebrate. They're wanted to go to a restaurant,
you know, do we want to do Italian or a
nice restaurant, And I was like, let's just go and
eat some good pizza and drink beer. That's what sounds
good to me. So oh yeah, And I'll see you
in Florida as well. Man, I'm excited for the Athens
and Jerusalem conference. If you guys haven't got tickets or

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seen the new trailer that Dyer just put out, it's
a fantastic trailer and it goes over this sort of
philosophical conference that we're going to be doing with Metropolitan
Jonah Jay Dyer, FDA, Father Vladimir, and myself and so FDA.

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I need to call you, actually, I got to see
what it is that you're going to be speaking about,
so we don't talk about the same thing, so I
can begin to craft my speech for the conference. So anyways,
I also just want to thank everybody for the birthday wishes.
Thank you guys so much and your generosity. Aaron Sapita
throws in five, Thank you so much, Aaron. God bless

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you brother, and he says, Christ did our mits truly
is in our midst truly, So thank you so much,
Aaron for the support. God bless you. Victor throws in
two bocks, has just placed my order DPH also Father
Moses soon. Yeah, I can reach out to Father Moses.
I'd love to chat with him. I know he's been

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super busy. Him and Father Turbo are so freaking busy
that it's you know, it's kind of hard to It's
like getting Jonathan Patio on your stream. They're just their
schedules are so busy, especially with Father Turbo and Father
Moses running a parish and all. So one thing that
I got to do is first show you guys that

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the book is live, that you can now get your
copy of Return to Babylon from Adam to Antichrist. Let
me pull this up for you guys. So if you
would like to support, if you would like to support

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my work or celebrate my birthday today, I asked that
you go purchase my book Amazon KDP takes forever to
freaking update, so like my author profile is still like
I emailed them today. It takes like forty eight hours
for things to update. But the book is now available.

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It's available in kindle ebook, it's available on paperback, it's
available on hardback. I want to show you, guys a
little bit of it. I've showed you before, but now
that it's finalized, I was just going to pull up
the pd PDF version of the book that's formatted here,
the six by nine. It's four hundred and twenty eight pages,

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so it's a bit it's a bit of a thick boy,
it is for the reader. That's it's you know, there's
no pictures in here. It's not a picture book, but uh,
you know it's taken me. Let's see I so my
PhD program. Somebody asked how long did it take? Well,
depends on where you begin the start marker. Let me

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share this link with everybody in the chat first, So
here's the link, guys. Also, if you want signed copies,
so anybody who wants signed copies of the book, you
can do so through this link right here over at
my website. So these are a little bit more expensive.
They're only hardbacks, so if you get a signed copy,
I made it so basically I've only stocked up on

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hardbacks and they're going to be here this weekend. So
I got thirty five copies coming from Amazon and if
you want to sign copy, and the heartbacks are actually
very quality. So I made sure to make it a
bit of a because it's self published, I don't want
it to look like a self published book, so I

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spent so much time on the formatting. I kept academic
citations to Arabian citations, which you would use in the
humanities or at least religious studies. What you use. I
put together a something that is incredibly important to me
that so many self published books don't do is a
topic index. Right, anybody who does research knows how important

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a topic index is because when you're doing research, say
say you have a research project and you're at a university,
the way you start the project is by gathering the literature.
And so one of the things you do is you
find books related to your topic. And then for me,
first thing I do is I open it. I go
to the table of contents, and then I flip directly

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to the index and I start doing word searches for
words associated with the thing that I'm researching. Then I
mark those pages. If it's a quality book that has
multiple pages marked, okay, we're checking that book out, or
we're buying that book, or we're keeping that book. That's
going to be a great resource. So for me as
an academic, you cannot have a book without a table index,
subject index, table index, topic index. And so I got

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one that's got I forget how many, it's like over
two hundred, almost three hundred inputs or something like that.
And then I got all my citations and stuff in
the back of the book from the various sources that
I use. So I only have proof copies and my
personal possession right now. So I've purchased, like I said,
thirty five copies of my hardback. Paperback looks good too,

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So there's nothing wrong with the paperback. The paperback. The
idea of the paperback is to save money, right, So
the paperback is a cheaper book, but the hardback is
the quality. If it's something you want to keep, which
I hope most people do, this is the hardback. And
so you can go to my website with this link.
As I just mentioned purchase a book, it's a flat fee.

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So I was trying to fix figure out how you
like get shipping handled through like like WU commerce and
stuff through WordPress plugins, and it was just a kind
of a mess. So I've just made it a flat
feet and then I will take care of all the shipping.
Unless it's international and it's really high, then I'll have
to reach out to you and maybe we'll have to

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make some type of compromise, but I look basically all
domestic shipping I'll be able to cover. So so this
is if you'd like a hardback version signed, and there's
a comment section that you can leave at the end
once you purchase. Let me know if there's a particular
note or a particular message you would like me to
write in the book for you. I'd be happy to

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do that. So anyways, yeah, that is that is the
option through my website, and we've already had I've been
again just stunned. One of the things that I've been
so appreciative of, it's just people. For my birthday this year,
I was just appreciative of my friends, my wife, and
I've only posted on Instagram and x and to see

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how many people have already purchased signed copies through my website.
Just really really warms my heart, just makes me just
so appreciative of you guys, Like just appreciative of people,
appreciative of the work to all the streams, making content
to try to basically earn your guys's trust, right, That's
what I've tried to do. I've said that before in
previous streams. That for me, the whole point of what

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I'm trying to do. You know, people said, dude, you
put out way too much information for free, and yeah,
that was probably true. It probably wasn't the wisest business decision.
But but I've been making these live streams for five years,
and my argument is that if you enjoy this content,

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I hope what you've seen is that I put a
lot of work into trying to do research and do
deep dives in a wide variety of topics from an
orthodox perspective, and from there I hope to build like
some type of personal trust. Maybe we've never met each other,
we don't know each other personally, but if you trust
that I've put due diligence into put out quality products,
whether it be the Logos Academy, whether it be my

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live streams, or whether it be this book that I
hope that if you get it you'll like it. What
is the book about? Well, let's get into that. Let's
gets a great question examined truth. Sorry, I'm I'm rambling
about all types of different stuff here. Well, I'll just
read to you, guys, this is the this is what
I have on the back of the book. Here, I'll

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read it to you, and then I'm gonna I was
gonna pull up the PDF. We can actually go through
it and chit chat about it. Mud throws in a
generous twenty bucks. Thank you so much money, says I'm
never going to read your dumb book. It's probably ugly,
but here's some money because you're so old in decrepit
for the retirement home. Okay, I feel better now that
I've verbally denegrated it. Thank you, Mud. So I appreciate

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the support, brother, and I appreciate the humor. Of course,
you can always do old man jokes. I mean, I'm
kind of at that age now, I'm getting thirty six married,
thirty six year old man. I guess I'm I am
on the on the chopping block for old man jokes.
I suppose so thank you Mud for that. Really appreciate

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your support. Brother, And stephan throws in fifteen over on
Dono Chat. Thank you so much, Stephanie says, happy birthday
and congrats on the book release. Doctor dph thank you
so much when you think we'll be able to download
your books directly to our brain just kidding, enjoy brother. Well,

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if neuralink has its way, probably within the next year
or two. So thank you Stephan so much brother for that.
Really appreciate the support. Let me tell you, guys what
the book's about. I've talked about in previous streams, but
I haven't really I've done kind of a piss poor
job of just doing a stream going over the book,
and I really wanted to wait until it was available.

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So what is the book about. Well, here's my little
salesy abstract that I put on the back of it.
So it reads in an era defined by technological ambition
and spiritual questioning. Return to Babylon from Adam to Antichrist
presents a rigorous study at the intersection of intellectual history
and religious studies. David Patrick Carey, PhD offers a critical

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examination of modern transhumanism through the lens of Eastern Orthodox theology,
revealing how attempts at technological self deification draw upon deep
historical and metaphysical currents within Christian thought. The book contrasts
these developments with a pre modern Christian vision of theosis,
a transformative participation in divine life through union with the

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logos Jesus Christ. Western civilization now faces two competing post
secular narratives, the rationalist technological ambitions of transhumanism and the
mystical grace centered theology of Orthodox Christianity. Harry traces these
pass through their philosophical, theological, and historical foundations. He analyzes
transhumanism's functionalist anthropology, materialists epistemology, and postdenderous ethics alongside the

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Orthodox understanding of embodied human divinis, aation. Orthodox thought perceives
transhumanism not only as a modern tower of babble, but
also as a potential stage set for Antichrist, attempting to
supplant divine grace with technological apotheosis. This book examines the
eschological imagination of transhumanist thought, from the pursuit of the

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singularity to the conception of an ai God. These ambitions
are framed as a profound challenge to spiritual and moral order.
By juxtaposing this vision with Orthodox theosis, Return to Babylon
demonstrates how Christian anthropology offers a counter narrative that safeguard's personhood,
free will, and communion with the divine. This work advances
contemporary debates in theology, philosophy, and intellectual history, and illuminates

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the tension between human ingenuity and spiritual transcendence and shows
how transhumanist presuppositions are rooted in centuries of Christian thought. Scholars, theologians,
and reflective readers are challenged to confront a pressing question.
Can humanity achieve true deification through technology or is divine
grace the only path to allo authentic transformation? So that

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is what the book is about. That's my little salesy pitch.
Now I'll tell you guys more directly kind of what's
in store if you're to get it. So let me
just pull up my pdf. Actually, let's just go through
the PDF and I'll show you guys. Let me pull
one up. So, oh, thank you very much, Thank you

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again to everybody wishing me happy birthday. Thank you guys
very very much. I do actually examined truth theosis over
neuralink that that is a central premise. And so the
book what it's doing is taking transhumanism and steel maning it.
So I spent I spent months and months basically reading
all the transhumanist literature by the people who support it,

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right and trying to be basically steel Man Steelman their
argument and present transhumanism as a modern form of religion.
And transhumanism doesn't typically fit that category, right, So transhumanism
doesn't fit if you're looking at like Ninian Smart seven
dimensions of religion, Yeah, it doesn't really fit these sort

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of traditional religious studies frameworks for defining what religion is.
And therefore I use a theory called the post secular moment,
and this is tied with Jurgen Habermass and Charles Taylor,
where they argue essentially that we are in a post
secular moment that really within the twenty first century, secular

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ideologies can now function as religions because one of these
breakdowns is, as we've talked about before, postmodernism. The turn.
The postmodern turn in the nineteen fifties had to do
with looking at worldviews and how we can substantiate our
beliefs and since postmodernism says there is no more metaphysics,
there is no ultimate forms of knowledge, there are no

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universal narratives or truth. It's just a subjective, existential pursuit
towards you know, meaning that you create. This is why
you can, you know, I can chop my Weiener off
and claim I'm a woman. And that's really part of
Judith Butler's sort of post genderesst critique to human embodiment. Anyways,

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within this post secular moment, communism, democracy, how much do
we hear about democracy being here in America? That is
a form of a post secular religious narrative. And so
because of this breakdown, the post secular moment argues that look,
maybe people identify as an atheist or a furry or
a transhumanist, and then if we ask them, are you religious,

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they'd say no, of course I'm not religious. But if
we look at their worldview and we look at how
they live, they have a totalizing meaning making often a
mythological framework about history themselves in the world, and ultimate
the ultimate pursuit of history and meaning personal meaning. And
so from a post secularist perspective, I really don't have

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to do this this hard work as a religious study
scholar to define transhumanism as a religion based on all
these you know, more traditional definitions like sacred text and
ritual and and you know, communal experience, all these different
things culture. Some of these obviously fit with transhumanism. But
in the post secular moment, all I have to do

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is demonstrate how this is its own mythology, how this
is the totalizing framework for the for their epistemology, their metaphysics,
their ethics, and how this is the narrative that fulfills
this meaning making process. And therefore, from that perspective, I
can say transhumanism as a secular technological ideology is actually

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on the same level as Eastern Orthodox Christianity, because those
who abide by this, whether they're Mormon or Christian or
Buddhist or whatever, they're allowing the paradigm in the worldview
of transhumanism to subsume whatever it is and reconstruct it
within the presuppositions of its worldview, and therefore it is
a totalizing religious narrative, whether it's explicitly religious or not. Now,

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in the work I do a great I go through
a great depth to demonstrate people who actually believe that
it is religious right. So this is the PDF of
the hardback version. You can see there with my ISBN
number and my own my own publisher, Logos Academic Press.

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I created that in conjunction with the Logos Academy, which
are which is our digital educational academy for philosophy, theology, masculinity,
so men's only academy essentially, and so I dedicate it
to the earnest seekers of truth. May this work illuminate
your path in honor the grace that guides it. Because

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for me, this book is you know, it's not a
popular reader per se. It's not something that I think
is going to go viral. It's not something that's some
sixteen year old unless they're very intelligent, will be able
to read. It is an academic work, but there's no
other work like this. There's no other work. There are articles,

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because I cite them. Even Father Peter here Is actually
wrote an article on an orthodox critique of transhumanism. I
cite this in my paper, but there had been no
in depth I'm talking. I mean the methodology I'm using
here is intellectual history, So intellectual history arguing that there
are foundational concepts that you can track through history itself

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and see how they evolve and work into different historical
contexts and cultures. And so what I do, and I'll
move down here to the table of contents. What I
do is Chapter one is essentially me grabbing this idea
that technology was going to be tied with the direction

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of a millinery in utopia, right, so transhumantive. If you
have you ever learned about the singularity or dove into
the Singularity, you'll know that they believe, they believe that
they're going to enter in this sort of utopian state
of existence made made possible by technological advance. Well, that

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concept is actually old and even to my surprise when
I began the project, it's actually a Christian idea. And
so what I do in chapter one here is I
let me see if I can make this bigger for
you guys Caesar to read. Here we go, uh maybe
right there? So this technomillinarianism, the return to Eden. What

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I did was track down these ideas and find that
John Skotosi Regina, who actually did a sponsored stream on
his divisions on nature, he has a he has a
very it's called a pair of paraphysion. It's one of
his most important books. He's an Irish neil Latonist that
becomes the court philosopher of the Carolingian Empire. So we're
talking mid eight hundreds here, okay. And he was one

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of the only people at that time in the Carolingian
Empire that could that could translate into Greek that read
Saint Maximus the Confessor was aware of all these different things,
and so he basically adopted aspects of Theosis, aspects of

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the Eastern mystical theology, incorporated this into a sort of
bastardized Neopolatonic Latin worldview. However, what he did, which is
so monumental, and I highlight here regarding medieval well the
mechanical Imago day, is that he is the first person
I could find in history to associate technological human ingenuity

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with a return back to the Garden of Eden, essentially
the construction of the New Jerusalem. Now why is that important?
Because that idea that technology is a grace filled gift
from God. He believed redeemed all the attributes that Adam
lost after the fall. This is why I titled the
book Returned to Babylon from Adam to Antichrist, because what

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I found, and this is all chapter one here. Basically,
what I found is that this transhumanism emerges from this
Christian essentially a heretical concept that technology would lead to
a millenarian utopian kingdom, and that kingdom would restore like
perfect knowledge, immortal existence, these things that they believed Adam

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had before the fall. So they believed everything and I
used this phrase over everything that was lost during the
fall would be redeemed through technology. This was this founding presupposition.
And so John Skotosi Regina puts this forth and this
influences people like you of Saint Victor and Roger Bacon. Now,
once we get into the eleven hundreds, and I've mentioned

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this man before, there's Yakama Fiore. This this monk who
believes that on the day of Pentecost that the Holy
Spirit and dwelled him with wisdom. Of this dispensationless three ages.
There's the Age of the Father, which is basically from
it's basically from Adam to Christ. Then you have the

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Age of the Son, which is Christ up to of
course the time that he lived, he believed it was
like the twelve hundreds, so like the thirteenth century was
moving into what he called the New Age. For him,
it was the age of the Holy Spirit. And so
the Age of the Spirit was an age that for
Yakima Fiore, who again he consulted popes at this time,

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this wasn't like a nobody, this was a somebody. Now.
He was obviously condemned also for his belief, but he
believed that this third Age of the Holy Spirit was
the age of spiritual men, and that in the age
of spiritual men, the sacraments, the authority of the Church,
these things didn't matter anymore. Essentially, the spirit and dwelled

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into righteous men in their heart. It's very Protestant. So
you can see, you can already see proto Protestantism here.
In fact, as I highlight in the book, many of
the reformers drew inspiration from Yakima Fiore a claiming that
they themselves were the men of the Third Age, and
that they themselves were going to build the new Jerusalem.
And so, as I highlight in this chapter one, I

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move basically from the from antiquity, differentiating the epistemological frameworks
between like mechanical arts and philosophical arts, and how philosophy
was abstract philosophy was universal. So for Aristotle and Plato philosophy,
that type of knowledge is up here, but technical mechanical

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knowledge was down here, because essentially a slave could know
how to do that. A slave could be a blacksmith,
a slave could know how to create great swords or
something like that. They didn't have to know the philosophy
of what a sword represented, they didn't have to understand
the depth of virtue for Aristotle or something. They could
just do these mechanical or these manual labors and create

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mechanical products. And it isn't with until we see this
movement into the ninth century. Again, people believe because the
Carolingian Renaissance had their own era where the mills and
plows and stuff were innovated in the nine hundreds or
the ninth century the eight hundreds, that they had their
own sort of renaissance. And so I demonstrate that there's

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a salter during this period. It's the first salter, the
first so it's depicting psalms. It's a visual depiction, and
and it highlights that the Christians were using a method
for fashioning swords that was a it was a step
beyond the historical methods, and it showed that the enemies

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of God were still using these antiquated methods, where the
Christians were using these new novel methods that made better swords.
And it depicted God with a compass and square. So
from here I'm tracing this idea and tying so after
Yakima Fiore, this idea that technology restored us back to prelapsarian,

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pre Edenic fallen atom gets influenced by this millinery and
Yakima Fiore spirit. And so then you have somebody like
Francis Bacon, or the Rosicrucians or John d All, these
people adopting different pieces of this and going about it
in different ways. And so Francis Bacon, the father of
modern science, he was utilitarian. This is what we call
Baconian reforms and science. It's a utilitarians the understanding that

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our epistemology is moving from a scholastic perspective into the
Baconian perspective that knowledge is about its utility, it's not
about its virtue, and that it's actually virtuous to have
knowledge that actually does things in the world. This is
what Francis Bacon put forth. And so he wrote a
novel called the new Atlantis, which is all about the

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sort of Christian brotherhood where there's no race and class,
and and everybody performed some type of technological art and
they're able to do all these different things. So this
idea becomes the foundation for what modern science, the Royal Society,
and the craft of the Engineer was all about. Is
that they believe that they were going to construct utopia.

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So once you get past the Enlightenment, once you get
into the scientific Revolution, into the Enlightenment, now this idea
takes on secular overtones, but still technology taking us to
a sort of perfected state, a state in which we're immortal,
a state in which we don't experience death the consequences
of the fall, and a state in which there's a
global utopia persisted, And I document how that idea really

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was entrenched and many of the people that came to America,
many of the engineers, and so America being the city
on the hill. We've done streams on Puritanism and all
this different stuff looking at how they viewed America. Well,
that idea of America being the endpoint of history gets
connected with this idea that technology and progress is going
to move us towards utopia, and I argue that essentially,

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once we ran out of land, meaning the actual continental
United States, and by the mid twentieth century, now the
frontier is technology, and Silicon Valley then has been leading
this endeavor. And of course look at their rhetoric. It's
about creating utopia, it's about perfecting man, it's about eliminating suffering.
And so it's interesting to find that the sentiments of

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modern transhumanism and the sentiments of most people in Silicon
Valley are reminiscent of a sort of heretical strand that
divinizes technological advance within Christianity all the way from the
medieval period into the present age. And so when you
find groups like the Christian Transhumanist Association in Nashville, Tennessee,

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led by Micah Reading, you'll find that, oh wow, go
read their blogs. They are actually identifying as part of
this tradition and saying, look how Christian we are. John
Scott's I Regina for is Bacon believe that we're gonna
use science and technology to save ourselves, essentially, and so
that is what I lay out in chapter one. Chapter

(35:10):
two gets into transhumit. But anyways, I'll see if anybody
has any questions about chapter one. There. That was a lot.
That was a lot to put on you guys. Max
throws into two bucks says, when we hang out again,
I'm gonna call you unk. Thanks. Max, appreciate that, brother,
fair enough that, but you have to call Andrew grandpa

(35:32):
if you do that, So Max, you can call me unk,
but Andrew Wilson has to refer to as grandpa kid.
Glitchy Rhythm throws in five says, Happy Birthday. May your
beard grow ever longer? Well, thank you, brother. I do
trim it regularly, so I don't know how much longer
it's gonna get than this. This is what the wife likes.

(35:53):
If I was clergy, maybe it'd be a little bit different.
But I'm lady, so I don't. I don't need to
have the homeless beard look or the you know, the
athonite monastic esthetic. But thank you so much, Glitchi Rhythm
for the support, brother. I really appreciate that. Riddy and
Edwards throws intense says, Hey, dph, you're gonna pick up
your book when I've gotten through the rest of my

(36:14):
reading list, PS look forward to the next. Think Tank
was a bit tired for the last one. Also, happy birthday. Well,
thank you brother, I hope you enjoyed it. We had
a great conversation. Ridian is one of our brothers in
the Logos Academy. We just had a private conversation. We
actually read Arthur Schopenhauer's controversial work work on women. Of course,

(36:34):
he was non Christian, but he was a German idealist,
and so we read that, and then we read stuff
by Saint John Crossostom and we basically had a three
hour men's only conversation on anything and everything you could
talk about regarding women. So riddy and it was a
great time. I understand he's on the other side of
the Atlantic, so it was pretty late for him. But
God bless you, brother, really appreciate the support. Mister sand

(36:57):
throws intent says, Happy birthday, Patrick. I just bought your
book in Bla's book Ruins. That's another shout out to Bla. Guys,
did you know Bla's book Runs, which is a book
of poetry. It's number one in its category. Guys, go
support our brother Bla. It's number one in its category.
So shout out to Blas. That's awesome and one of

(37:20):
the things that I ask you guys, and I should
have said this earlier, but I'm just going to be
emphatic about it right now, is could you guys please
please leave a five star positive review on my book?
So I was looking online to try to figure out
how Amazon ranks books, and it's kind of like YouTube.
It's all about engagement, and so leaving five stars and

(37:43):
comments is the best way to get your book to
be recommended by Amazon when people are reading similar topic things.
So my book, I believe, is the ultimate ultimate conversation
between Orthodox Christianity and transhumanism. Essentially you utilizing Eastern Orthodoxy
as a critique to transhumanism concerning concepts of deification, and

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how in our post secular moment that these are now
in direct competition to each other. Because although they're similar
in a pursuit for deification and even similar in the
archetypes transhumanism steals from Christianity, they're actually in versions of
each other. And that's why from the Orthodox perspective, transhumanism
is a return to Babylon and how this idea goes

(38:28):
from atom to antichrist right the atom that John Schotzy,
Regina and Francis Bacon and all these people wanted to
emulate and return to through technology. This from an Orthodox perspective,
is all leading towards a linear historical trajectory towards Antichrist.
And so it demonstrates how even though people and you'd
be surprised how many scholars and I'm talking you know,

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these are academics that doesn't have a dog in the fight.
They're not, you know, anti orthodox or anti transhuman but
they try to equate orthodox theosis with transhumanism and say
basically it's the same thing, totally nullifying the absolute differences
between the paradigms. I mean, the energy essence distinction, eschatology, theology, anthropology, metaphysics,

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all these different things, and they say, yeah, it's basically
the same thing. Transhumanism is basically a modern form of theosis. Well,
yeah it is, but they're inversions. They're not the same thing.
It's a similar goal, opposite methodologies. Anyways, Sorry, sorry, mister Sand,
he said, I'm really excited to read them. Congratulations, I'll
spread the good news about the book being released. Thank

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you so much, mister Sand. Really appreciate that. Brother, thank
you for the support. And again, guys, if you could
please please leave a comment and a review of the book.
I promise you it's it's very in depth like I
spent I mean basically it from the moment I knew
that this was going to be my dissertation. It basically

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took me two years because I had to read everything.
Because when somebody asked earlier, how long did this take?
And I said, well, from what point are you beginning
to count? Are you counting like when I started the
PhD program, Because for me, I had a totally different
dissertation project. I was going to do one on psychedelics

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as a new religious movement and trace psychedelic spirituality to
find it as a paradigm and then trace it from
the ancient period into the twenty first century. But my committee,
upon reading this paper that I put together, really liked
what I had to say about transhumanism and thought that
it'd be more culturally relevant, more kind of cutting edge,

(40:41):
and so they asked me to put something together or
there so obviously naturally compare it as a form of
deification with theosis, and demonstrate that the pre modern paradigm
of Orthodoxy is actually in direct contrast with the modern
paradigm of transhumanism. So I had to change my entire
disortation project after doing probably a year worth a prep

(41:05):
for it, thinking that that was what it was going
to be. And so I had to basically restart a
whole new reading list, and so that took me probably
two years, like the first book I bought on transhumanism
to dive into this. So it's like a two year process.
And I was really happy with the defense because my
committee actually said no corrections. I got a full pass.

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So typically when you go defend your PhD, normally there's
some type of correction. They think maybe you mischaracterized something
or did something wrong, or or there's a section that's
a little bit off, or they want you to do
XYZ And I got a full pass, so I was
super ecstatic about that. But yeah, that's that's moose of

(41:50):
the process. We can get more into. If you guys
have questions, send them in. Ask me, like, what was
it like to what's the process to publish, what's the
process to do research? Anything you guys want to know,
ask me questions. That's what today's stream is for basically
just a Q and A H. Brossey been a Coldal
crew member for two months, says my order of the
book hard copy will be in on Wednesday or Thursday.

(42:11):
Also add back on Exeter brother, same name. Oh great,
h Brossey. Thank you so much brother for the support
and purchasing the book. I can't tell you, guys how
meaningful it is for like for you guys to buy
my book because it took so much effort. You'll see
you'll see when you read it. Like the depth of

(42:32):
the footnotes. I think I don't know how many footnotes
I have. We can count them real quick. Just scroll
to the back of the page andcy but I really
did my due diligence and you'll see that in regards
to the amount of reading and in depth research I did.
Cherry Berry just became a coldal crew member. Thank you
so much, Sherry Berry. God bless you. Jason Henley throws

(42:55):
in two box says you had me at Baconian or
bacon Indian. Hey, I love my Bacon as well. Thank
you so much. Justin God bless you brother. Uh doctor
or doctor David James Flood throws in five says Happy birthday, DPH,
and congrats on the book release. Will order if you
make it available as a hard copy as I like

(43:17):
it is a hard copy, brother. Yeah, So you can
get hard paper or ebook through Amazon, and if you
want signed copies, you can go through my website and
those are only so if you get a signed copy,
those are only hardbacks because I just think the quality
is so much nicer and I like hardbacks. So all

(43:38):
the website copies if you go through my website and
I'll share that link with you guys. Again, if you
go to my website and purchase, like I said, I
bought thirty five of them and they don't come in
until this weekend. So this weekend I'll sign all the
books and hopefully I'll get those shipped out the beginning
of next week. But if you want a hardback, sign

(43:59):
you can go through my website. If not, if you
just want a hardback and you'll get it quicker just
through Amazon, you can do so with this link right here,
and so that that will offer you hardback paperback, like
I said, kendall ebook. So thank you, David James Flood
God bless you brother. Truly appreciate the support. Austin Detulio
throws in twenty thank you very much, brother, he says,

(44:19):
Happy birthday, dph. Congratulations on your book. God bless you
and the family. Well, thank you very much, Austin. God
bless you as well. Truly appreciate all the support. Let
me see over on Dono Chat. Okay, so I just
had a little bit of a trailer cut as well
for this. I got to use the restroom real quick.

(44:41):
I'm about to explode. But I want to play you
guys the new trailer for the book and get your
guys' thoughts on it. I'll probably post it on YouTube tomorrow.
But I just had my thumbnail. Guy, I shout out
to iPAQ arts. He just put this together, so I
was gonna play it for you guys. I got to

(45:01):
use the restroom real quick. I'm freaking dying, And so
you guys can check out the new trailer for the book.
Tell me if you think I is it engaging enough.
You know, my problem is I get in too much
detail when I when I do think so that wasn't

(45:23):
the most useful. Uh So he cut some stuff from
the actual trailer. But here's this, so I'm gonna play
it for you guys, and you guys can let me
know what you think this is. I'm gonna post this
on YouTube and probably all the socials tomorrow. Isaiah V
throws in five says happy birthday. Brother just bought the
signed copy. Thank you so much, Isaiah, God bless you man.

(45:45):
And So I don't know how many people have purchased
the signed copies yet, but if it's more than thirty
five guys, I'm gonna have to order more. So it
may be another week or two before I'm able to
get them to you, just because of the logistics. So
if you want them signed this weekend, like I said,
I basically have thirty five. That's what I got right now.

(46:06):
But I'll get more. I will get more. So anyways,
check out this trailer real quick and I'll be right back.
What if the future of humanity isn't found in a
merger with machines, but in a synergy with divine grace,
Western civilization faces a profound choice. Will the future of
our species and our concepts of divinity be redefined by
the transhumanist pursuit for technological deification, or will people be

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informed by the ancient, mystical, and time tested path of
Orthodox Christianity.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
My name is David Patrick Carey. I'm a PhD in
Religious studies, and this.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Is my new book returned to Babylon from Adam to Antichrist.
While modern transhumanism today tells us and promises us of
a future utopian existence post singularity, for you and I
will transcend our biological limitations, being able to live forever
in cyboard form or upl our consciousness through AI and

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brain computer interfaces, the pre modern Orthodox doctrine of theosis
offers a radically different vision. Human transformation can never be
done through just technological means, but rather true transformation and
true transfiguration, and to a follower of Christ means a
personal and wilful embodiment of God's uncreated energies. These two

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visions are not just different, they're actually in versions of
each other.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Whereas Christians understand God.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
The Word became flesh to redeem all humanity and unite
and binding nature with human nature, transhumanism attempts to revert
the flesh back into data, back into digital code. Whereas
Christians aim to become fully human and the eternal salvation
of Jesus Christ by following him and emulating him, Transhumanism,

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through rational and technological means, pursues a post human immortality
It is for these reasons and many many more that
you can why I delineate between the Orthodox Christian path
of god manhood to the transhumanist path of man godhood.
This is a pre modern critique, and what I argue

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is that when you look at transhumanism's ai God, the Singularity,
or their poshuman immortality from an Orthodox Christian perspective, we
can see the warning of a return back to Babylon,
human ingenuity taking over submission to divine order, and how
all of this is not only a recapitulation of humanity's fall,

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but it's moving us closer and closer to the kingdom
of Antichrist. This work illuminates the questions and the choice
our civilization must now face. Do we follow human ingenuity
sever from grace or is human flourishing fulfilled in divine participation.
I argue that in the post secular context, where secular

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ideologies now function as.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Religions with their own myths, their own totalizing worldview.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Ascatology, and meaning making processes, there is a competition. There
is a battle for the hearts and minds of those
in the West about what does the.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Future of divinity and the future of the human species
look like.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
This book is unique because no other work goes into
the intellectual depth to place the pre modern worldview of
orthodox Christian unity and a doctrine of theosis, and the
conversation with modern transhumanism concerning concepts of deification. That's why
this work is perfect for scholars, theologians, Christian seekers, or
anybody interested in the future of humanity, technology, and faith.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Get your copies today.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
You can get paperback, hardback or kindle ebook versions on Amazon,
or you can get authors signed copies limited editions do
my website David Patrickcarey dot com.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
This is more than just a book.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
It's a journey through history, theology, and philosophy. So I
invite you to explore it and hold this question in
your mind. Will humanity see deification through machines or through
a mystical participation with divine grace? Return to Babylon from
Adam to Antichrist is your guide to that answer.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
M M.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
So shout out to ipack Arts who put that together
for me. I thought he did a fantastic job. What
did you guys think of that little trailer for the book?
Looks like we got fire emojis? Dph is that Guy W. Taylor,
Thank you, Banana Banana. Brett Heidi likes it. Austin Detulio

(50:41):
likes it. David James Flute said this, this book looks Ethica. Well,
thank you man. I I promise you anybody who's ahead,
anybody who likes history, anybody who likes ideas, philosophy, theology,
anybody who's orthodox Christian, I think will appreciate that. Now,
it does put a lot of responsibility on the owner

(51:03):
or the owner the reader, because I don't just explain
everything from the beginning. I mean, I I assume somebody
already has basically a graduate level information. But I promise
you if anybody who gets it and reads it will
see the amount of work and due diligence in the research.
You know. One of the things I was really proud

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about is one of the professors that was on my
committee actually right now. It was actually doctor Jerry Brown,
who wrote the Psychedelic Gospels, and I gotta I gotta
give him things. One he was on my committee, and
one obviously, the first dissertation was gonna be on psychedelics,
so he was a natural person to ask. But after

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changing it to transhumanism, and he had taught some classes
on technology and concepts of transhumanism during when he was
a professor. But I had my advisor, who is a
new religious movement Western esoteric scholar. And then I had
a philosopher. She was an Aristotilian. She's a Dominican Catholic.
She worked well, she works at the Dominican School. She's

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a Catholic, but she's Aristotilian philosopher, and she does all
her researches into like personhood, neuroscience, brain, concept of person,
that type of stuff, so basically philosophy of mind type work.
And so I had her, and then I had doctor Brown,
and doctor Brown, who's not Orthodox, read it and thought

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it was an incredible nuanced approach to a very large
and encompassing topic. And so that was one of the
one of the big compliments I got, because obviously, if
you're Orthodox, you're gonna like the book because I'm taking
orthodoxy and basically deconstructing transhumanism. But if you're not Orthodox,

(52:52):
I didn't know how somebody would read it who's not Orthodox,
because that's where I'm coming from. And for somebody who
certainly is not diving, you know, they're not in the orthosphere.
They're not watching the Jay Dier debates and stuff like
that for them to read it and be like, wow,
that is a very interesting, nuanced approach to that conversation.
I thought, you know, very support So thank you doctor Brown,

(53:14):
thank you doctor Vega, and thank you doctor Lawrence for
your guys to support and getting all this stuff done.
Really appreciate them being there with me through the process.
So anyways, with all that said, is your guys is
is the uh? Is your guys' chat working? The live chat?

(53:35):
I can see it on stream yard, but it says
something went wrong on YouTube on my live stream on YouTube, Okay,
I see some some comments coming in, so it's working
for you guys, right. I have to buy it from
Amazon since I need it shipped to Canada and then
brought to Europe, missing out on a signed copy. But

(53:55):
I really need to read the book. Yeah, that and
that's why I did it through Amazon intentionally. Obviously we
know the problems with Bezos and Amazon as a corporation,
but the reason why I went through Amazon was for
the distribution. I want people that can read English all
over the world that are interested in this topic to

(54:15):
get access to it, and unfortunately the way that I
went about it. So publishing it myself through Logos Academic Press,
Amazon is just superior. I could go through Lulu, I
could go through these other ones, but the distribution, even
though maybe they even make better self published copies, the
distribution isn't the same. And so I don't want to

(54:36):
be in a position where people in Germany or Sweden
or Australia can't get the book because it's just really
hard to ship it there And the only way to
get around that was basically just been the knee to
Amazon KDP and do it all through Amazon. So that's
what I ended up doing. Christopher scot throws in five

(55:01):
no come and thank you so much Christopher, God bless
you brother. Somebody said, am I gonna host an open pan?
I mean, if somebody wants to come on, I guess
they could. Okay, Chat's working for you guys. That's weird.
It's not working for me on on my YouTube, hull okay,
So I cannot see anything on YouTube. I can just

(55:22):
see that I'm live on YouTube, So everything is going
to be through stream yard. But anyways, to get back
to what we were talking about with the book, I'll
continue continue forward if you guys like again, please anybody
who gets it, especially through Amazon, please go leave a
positive Amazon review. That would that would help the distribution

(55:43):
of this book more than anything. If if you guys
can just leave some positive reviews on Amazon. I was
looking online, as I said, I was reading articles and stuff,
and they said that is the best way to get
your book, to get Amazon to recommend your book to
other people, is just to at positive reviews. So right
now there's no no reviews, no stars. I'll refresh. But

(56:09):
and if you're waiting to get the book, you want
to give a legitimate review. Okay, fair enough. I stand
behind my work and I think that it's going to
be it's gonna be worth it. If anybody's interested in
joining our men's only academy, please, we'd love to have
you over at the Logos Academy. I know that's where
I shared everything. Everybody at the Logos Academy gets first

(56:30):
DIBs on everything, so I already shared everything with them
and been chatting with them. They actually gave me feedback
on the cover as well, and I can explain a
little bit of the cover. If you guys want, feel
free to ask me questions Austin Detulio throws in another
five no comment. Thank you so much, Austin, God bless
you brother. All right, so getting back to the document, Well,

(56:57):
just say, if anybody wants signed copies again, you can
get them through my website with this link right here.
I'll just share that one again. And these links are
in the video description for everybody watching this in the future,
or you guys are wondering right now, maybe you're you're busy,
you're not in the chat. All these links that I'm sharing,
they're in the they're in the video description. So whether
you just want to get a paperback through Amazon or
you want to get a signed copy through the website,

(57:18):
those links are available. So just know that. All right,
let's get back to the document. The cover reminds me
of the Dark Tower series. Oh interesting, Well, let me
pull up the cover real quick. I got I can
explain why I did what I did if you guys

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are interested. So I talked a little bit about it
at a previous stream. I don't I don't even remember
what stream it was, but I had a buddy from
college actually, who does like graphic design stuff come up
with it. So my idea was I needed something simplistic.
I was looking look up like, what how do you
create the most ideal how do you create the most

(58:05):
ideal book cover? Right? And so it needed to be
something iconic and simple. That was what I the early
the early drafts that I had were way too busy,
way too busy for a book. So I sat down
and thought about it, and I thought, well, why don't
we just do or me, why don't I just do
the Tower of Babel but a futuristic two point zero,

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which is what I mentioned in the book, And so
that's what this represents. You'll see the blue lights inside
the tower, and you can see that the tower has cranes.
The tower is being built as we speak, right the
idea that transhumanism, the technocracy, whether it be Elon Musk,
Peter teele Pallanteered, Neuralink, Microsoft, it doesn't matter. They're all

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working in the same direction. And so they are building
and constructing this Tower of Babel two point zero right
now because they believe they're going to reach eternity or
reach the mastery over creation. The blue lights inside the
Tower of Babel represent everybody who's attached to the blue
light of the screen. Right, So your phone, your TV,

(59:10):
your computer screen all has blue light, right, and so
the blue light inside the tower represents the people who've
essentially spiritually already submitted to the Antichrist spirit and are
living in or condoning or supportive of the Tower of
Babel being erected. The yellow lights that are outside the

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Tower of Babel, that are the same color as the text,
are symbolically what it was supposed to represent. Were the
people that were still awake. Maybe they're subjugated, maybe they
are the remnant of the faithful at the end times,
but they're subjugated by the tower. They're subjugated by the
Antichrist in his kingdom. However, they have not spiritually extinguished themselves.

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They have not extinguished the Amago day, the image of
God within them. They have not capitulated to the full
transhumanist that and so their light still shines. That was
the idea, and that it being a yellow light versus
the false light of the Antichrist, which is the blue light.
Not that there's anything wrong with blue. Blue is my
favorite color, but you get the idea. It has a

(01:00:14):
false and verted light. It's a mesmerizing light. So you
stare into the black mirror where God's light, transcendent light,
the taboric light is white and yellow, and that it
has to do with the creation that God made. And
so those yellow, those little yellow dots around here, these
are the people that are still awake. Those are the

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people that are still alive. And so that was my
thought process, and my buddy helped me put it together.
So so shout out, shout out to Steve Chase, if
he's watching this. My buddy Steve, a friend from college,
went to actually spent two trips to China with him.

(01:00:55):
He's the one that helped me put this together. So
shout out shout out to Steve and working on that
one night and trying to put all that together. And
so yeah, then the colors. The idea for the colors
is I wanted the book to be black, so you
see that the book is black. I wanted an image
that that sort of bled into the black text so

(01:01:16):
it looked like it all goes together. And so I
wanted the whole book to be black and the same
gold Byzantine gold font uh to be And it may
be it may be a theme for all my books,
because I want to write a book on the history
of logos. I want to write a book on the
history of metaphysics. I want to write a book on
masculinity in the twenty first century, and so it may

(01:01:38):
be a theme. The font in the in the color
of the text, I'm not sure yet, still early, but
that was the The whole thing was inspired by the
Logos Academy, because our logo is the nick across. It's
the you know, Jesus Christ Greek Greek Greek initials and
then N I K A with a just basically a

(01:02:00):
square cross. That's and I used a dark blue and
a goal to represent the sort of Byzantine theme, and
so I use that same color scheme. So you'll see
the first printing, this is a proof it was a
little dark. So for the copies, which I don't even
have my own author copy yet, guys, it's still in
the mail, this cover should be a bit brighter. It

(01:02:22):
should look more like the image you're seeing here as
opposed to this, just because once it got printed, I
could see, okay, it looks good, but it's it's a
little dark. So that's that it was the that was
the point behind the book cover. Mud says, fine, I'll

(01:02:43):
buy your morbidly obese, overbloated, shingles covered book. There had
better be in a depth, colorful pictures. I guess I
wasn't talking ish. Yeah, unfortunately, mud, there are no pictures
in this one. So you know, we'll move back over
to the actual PDF. And oh crap, if you hit

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the table of contents, he'll take you directly to whatever
you click on. So anyways, what are your guys' comments?
What are your thoughts? Oh, Chase Haggard A shout out
to my buddy, Chase. God bless you brother, he says,
Happy birthday, brother, can't wait to buy and read your book. Well,
thank you so much, Chase, God bless you, bro. Hope

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you and the wife are doing well. Actually, I was
thinking about you the other day and hoping you're doing well. Man.
Hopefully you've recovered from the basement flood. Sorry to hear
about that, but always have you in my thoughts and prayers. Man,
God bless you and the wife. PhD and published author. Yeah,

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so you know, and I did publish it myself, so
if somebody you know, Obviously, when you write an act
academic texts, most people would try to go through a
university press However, because of my business model, because I'm
not trying to be part of the university, I'm trying
to be a bridge from essentially academia to the public.

(01:04:16):
I you know, instead of having a classroom of thirty kids,
I want a classroom online of as many adults as possible. So,
because of my business model, my thought process was, if
I wanted to maximize control over my work, the best
thing to do is just to self publish, and if

(01:04:38):
it's successful and if people like it, if there is,
you know, an orthodox publisher that wants to reprint a
new edition and an edition tied with their press, I'd
absolutely be open to that. If even a university press
reached out in the future, I'd be open to that.
But I instead of giving away the ability to make reprints.

(01:04:59):
So the nice thing about Amazon is one I'm in
total control of the document. I own it, it's my copyright.
Nobody can take it from me, and nobody can tell
me that they're not reprinting my book because I only
got so many ex sales in a certain amount of time.
Amazon prints on demand, so they can print it for me.
So I'm open to eventually doing a more professional press

(01:05:26):
for this. I basically created my own press, the Logos
Academic Press, you know, in conjunction with Logos Academy, and
that being the platform in which I want to basically
publish my other books. They'll be through Logos Academic Press.
That's the idea. So anyways, Heidi throws in twenty dollars

(01:05:54):
over on Dono Chat and says for pizza and beer
many years. Well, thank you so much, Heidi, God bless
you reallyppreciate that support. Let's okay, let's see what do
you guys. What are your guys thought logos Academic Press. Nice,
I'll send my manuscript. Yeah, uh, I'm open to publishing

(01:06:17):
other people's stuff in the future. I mean essentially, it's
going to be like an orthodox academic press. That's the idea.
Cole says, I burned my thirty Amazon Prime trial to
order my copy. It says. The book will arrive on Saturday.
Can't wait to read. Well, thank you so much, Cole,
God bless you. Bro. And oh and Chase has got

(01:06:37):
a new song dropping, new song dropping tomorrow, Chrispy awesome, Chase,
keep keep doing what you're doing. Brother Bat says, yeah,
you don't need kids with pajama pants, slides and socks
and headphones on as your students. Well, you know, there
is something there is something cool about having people in

(01:07:00):
like an actual classroom that you can interact with each other.
There is something to be said for that, the energy,
the conversation, the amount of learning that can actually happen
face to face. But with the way that the academy
is and the way that universities are, unless you're at
a really good private Christian school like FDA's at a

(01:07:23):
really good Carol College shout out to Carol College and Helena, Montana.
You know, he's at an institution in which other people
have his back. That I think is really cool and
that would be one of my dreams in the future,
would actually for there to be an Orthodox university or
maybe just an Orthodox college. Colleges have undergraduate degrees, universities

(01:07:45):
have graduate degrees. So if you didn't know, but if
there is an Orthodox college like whereas explicitly Orthodox, I
would love to have you know, students face to face.
But just given where we're at and give and where
academia and higher education is at, it's all moving towards online.
I mean, this is what the Peterson Academy is about.

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That's why I created the Logos Academy. Is I feel
like for the next you know, if it ever gets
corrected in the academy, which is probably unlikely at least
for the near future, I think most people are going
to build their sort of intellectual formation online and I
could always create courses on like Western the history of

(01:08:28):
Western esotericism, or the history of Western magic, or the
history of Orthodox theology, and I can get accredited through
the accreditation system, pay for it, and then I can
offer those courses through my website, so that a universe,
a student from the University of Texas, the University of Hawaii,
or University of Indiana University that they could actually sign

(01:08:50):
up for my class as an elective that transfers to
all major universities, and they could then I could offer
courses to teach that no universities offer that they're just
totally unique. And then people that are going to college
who are aware of my stuff or interested in those topics,
they can actually take my classes as an elective for
their university credits and earning their degrees. So I've talked

(01:09:14):
with FDA about this, and I think this is this
is kind of where I think that a lot of
the educations, fear is going to be moving towards what
happened to Saint Catharines in San Diego. I'm not sure.
I'm not sure about that. Sat Athanasius Academy offers orthodox

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in undergrad offers. It is online cool, so I know
there's some out there. It's it's been growing, there's some
in texts. I talked with my priest about it, and
he knows a lot of the priests that are involved
in some of these things. So I may teach an
online course through them in the future. But right now,
I got so many ideas on books, I got so

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many streams that I want to do. I got so
many classes and logos Academy that I want to build
out that I feel like I got so much work
to focus on with just my business for the next
two to three years that it almost feels like getting
situated into any sort of institutional setting is going to
have to be in a few years, just because I'm

(01:10:21):
so excited for the future. I'm so excited to just
build out my own stuff online. Where can I read
your book Amazon? So you can put my name on
Amazon or return to Babylon, from Adam to Antichrist. That's
the name of the book, and the book will pop up.
You can even just Google search it or just search

(01:10:43):
online that Amazon link should pop up. Or if you
want a signed copy, you can go to my website
and purchase a sign copy. So here's the link for
a signed copy. Here is the link for Amazon, and
so it comes in heart back, paperback and kindle ebook
on Amazon. But all signed copies are hardback because to me,

(01:11:06):
it's just the superior version of it. So if that's
something you're like, please sign up. I'm anxious to see
because Amazon KDP takes like twenty four to forty eight
hours to update, so I have no idea who or
how many people have actually purchased my book today, and
I won't be able to I won't be able to
tell probably for about a day or two. I have

(01:11:28):
seen people have already purchased through my website, which I'm
so grateful for, so anybody perching through the website again.
I'm getting my thirty five copies this weekend, and everybody
who purchases this week, I'm going to try to sign
all those and get those out in the mail. Next week.
If you happen to purchase after those thirty five, it's
probably going to take me another week to get an

(01:11:49):
order shipped, and then that following week I'll get them
all sent out. So just FYI for anybody who is purchasing,
AJ says, happy birthday past today is also my son's birthday. Well,
happy birthday to him. Once I get paid, i'll get
a signed copy. Super excited. Well, thank you so much.
AJ really appreciate that. God bless So anyways, what I

(01:12:12):
was saying, what I was saying about this book, so
I kind of outlined what happens in chapter one right.
Chapter two is a hundred page, one hundred and three
page in depth overview steel maning what transhumanism is and

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demonstrating that it's a religion without revelation. And I'm drawing
the phrase religion without revelation from a nineteen twenty seven
work by Julian Huxley and which he talks about the
religion of the Future is a religion without revelations. It's
going to be a scientifically based faith. It's going to
you know, he was a big eugenesis so he believed

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in like genetic manipulation and perfecting the human race from
the earthly twentieth centuries. I mean, one of the one
of the taints that transhumanists try to disassociate themselves with
is the fact that they are tied with the history
of eugenics. Because many transhumanists who are actually foundational in
building the transhumanist movement are some way tied, at least

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in the early days, with eugenics. And Julian Huxley is
no different, you know, brother, younger brother of Oldus Huxley.
So I take his phrase religion without revelation, and I
connect that with the book that he wrote in the
nineteen fifties called New Wine or New Skins for New Wine.

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And in that book, in chapter one, it's the first
time anybody uses the phrase transhumanism in regards to what
transhumanism today represents. Like there's people have used variations of
the concept, but they're usually in some spiritual term. It
was never about you know, technological transformation, you know, merging
with machine stuff. But Julian Huxley is the first person

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who actually outlines and explicitly states or utilizes the phrase transhumanism.
So I give him credit. And that's what the origins
of transhumanism section is about that section A of chapter two.
And then Extropianism in Praise of the Devil, that is
me then laying out what modern transhumanist philosophy. So arguably

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the two you know, I would say probably the two
biggest names or most popular names regarding the academic side
of transhumanism is probably Nick Bolstrom and Max Moore. And
so Max More you could arguably say was more foundational
in giving transhumanism a sort of academic footing. You could
probably say Nick Bolstrom is a little bit more important

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now because he But anyways, both of them very important.
Both of them are still alive. That Max Moore developed
this philosophy called extropianism, and so entropy is like the diminishment, right,
So extropy is fighting against it, and that's what tran
It's extropian. It's a metaphor about a wilful existential resistance

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to entropy by means of human rationality and technological ingenuity.
So I lay out, and he has this article titled
in Praise of the Devil where he talks about how
Lucifer Satan and the Devil is like the ideal archetype
for transhuman rebellion against the confines of these antiquated Christian

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world views and this idea of submitting to God and
all this stuff. So he claims he doesn't believe in
the devil at an ontological level, but he thinks it's
a useful metaphor that transhumanist should adopt. And so then
I lay out the epistemology, the metaphysics, and the ethics
of transhumanism, and then I demonstrate that in our post
secular moment, it does in fact function as religion, and

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therefore I can then compare transhumanism to Orthodoxy as its
own religiousness narrative, and so then I get into if
it is a religion, what does the religion say, And
so then I get into visions of a post human future?
What does transhumanism view the future of humanity looking like?
And then the next section is transhumanism of religion. Then

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I demonstrate all these groups that are explicitly religious, like
Martin Rothblatt, who the founder of Exim Radio, who's a
transgender woman it's actually a man who's transitioned to a woman.
She has like the terrorism community, where they all are
like religiously oriented transhumanist and I even highlight that there

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was an article I think it was from Rolling Stones
where they went to their headquarters and they had like
pictures of Ray Kurzwell and Hans Moravik and these people
that are sort of important to transhumanism. Is like they're
sort of saints of this faith. If not so, I
demonstrate that not only can trans humanism be viewed as religion,

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these are the groups that are explicitly religious as transhumanists.
And then I get into their belief in the emergence
of an ai god, the immaculate conception what is referred
to as post genderism. And so this post modern post
genderist worldview is about doing it basically the LGBTQ stuff.

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It's the trans community that wants to redefine man and woman.
They want to do away with biological birth. They want
to make sex purely about pleasure, and that actual conception
is done in a laboratory so that it can be controlled,
and that the genes can be selected, so that we
essentially again a lah eugenics. Right, so the ugly head

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of eugenics begins to rise itself again, even amongst the
modern transhumanists who are totally trying to dissociate themselves with
that history. But in the post work that I read,
they explicitly talk about basically physical biological sex will be

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purely for pleasure, and then actual instances of copulation that leads,
you know, that have fecundity to them, that actually create children.
Those will be done in a laboratory by basically taking
a woman's eggs and taking a man's sperm, and they're
just gonna, you know, fertilize the egg right there in
the lab so we don't even need you guys to
do sex, and they're explicit about that. So that's where

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I talk about the immaculate conception, nanotechnology and being born
from technology again a sort of play on the immaculate
conception there, and then natural natural magic and gnostic illumination.
I demonstrate the historical spiritual connections of this transhuman religion
to natural magic and gnosticism. And then I talk about

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the techno apocalypse and the existential risk that even transhumanists
talk about regarding their own eschatology and the singularity or
the awakening of the ai, becoming fully conscious and all
this different stuff. Bonus word for kundity. So so anyways,

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that's what chapter two is about essentially laying out the
transhumanist worldview and what it is. And then chapter three
is called Theosis the Latter of Divine Ascent and here
and this is kind of difficult. It was difficult for
me because how do you how do you introduce Orthodoxy

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in its paradigm to non orthodox people because there's so
much jargon we use, you know, when we're talking about
uncreated energies and a mystical theology. Uh, typically, if you're Orthodox,
you already know what that means. It's easier to unpack
those concepts. But assuming you're writing to someone secular, how
do you demonstrate the actual importance of a Christian worldview?

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And so this chapter begins with an introduction where I
basically delineate what Orthodox theology is and why it's not
Catholic or Protestant. And basically the introduction is me laying
out what the chapter is about and then demonstrating how
it's not the same thing as Catholicism. Our presuppositions are paradigm.

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Though there's similarities, it's not the same thing that Orthodoxy,
and it's in its disposition towards deification as a central
note in its theological framework that it maintains the energy. Yes,
it's distinction in this doctrine of theosis. That yes, Catholicism
or Methodist Christianity, Methodist Protestantism, we talked about sanctification, but

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it's a different paradigm in the process of that taking
place doesn't actually fit within their worldview the same extent
that it does for us orthodox So I kind of
lay out this briefly that look, this is what we're
talking about. We're talking about Eastern Orthodoxy. We're talking about
a pre modern Christianity that was not influenced by the Renaissance.
Because if you understand our historical timeline, by fourteen fifty three,

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the sacking of Constantinople by the Ottoman Turks, that is
right in the heart of the Florentine Renaissance. Right, That's
how we get the Hermetic Corpus, That's how we get
Plato into Latin. It's because these manuscripts are flowing out
of Constantinople into Western Europe in the preservation of those documents,
because the Turks are going to destroy them. And so

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this is where we get the Council of Florence, the
false Council that got rejected by Orthodox laity, shout out
to Saint Mark. And then this is where we see
a new understanding. Essentially Renaissance humanism begins to emerge during
this period. Now, because Orthodox Constantinople was sacked, many Orthodox

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were under automant oppression after that point forward, or they
were in their own his historical difficulties. Say in Serbia Romania.
I mean we've talked about different saints. We talked about
Saint Stephen of Moldovia, we talked about Count Dracula, you know,
vlad Dracula of Romania, or then you know Wallachia. Anyways,

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my point, my point or Russia at that point, is
that they were isolated from Western Europe. And so the
intellectual developments of Orthodoxy compared to Catholicism, any form of
Catholicism in compared to Protestantism, were not influenced by the Renaissance.
Certainly not the Scientific certainly not then the Protestant Reformation,

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then the Scientific Revolution, then the Enlightenment to the same
degree that Western Christianity was. Therefore, Orthodoxy is the perfect
critique to transhumanism because one it is focused on deification,
and two it's the only form. Maybe you could say oriental,
but you could. And even even I had a professor

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agree that Orthodoxy is more pre modern than Catholicisman, though
maybe you can find aspects of pre modernity and Catholicism
due to Vatican One, Vatican two, all this different stuff
they've been they are now in a novel situation where
they've been progressing and developing doctrines. So even the Catholic
recognize that, yeah, Orthodoxy is more pre modern. So only

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Orthodoxy is explicitly Christian and focused on deification, is pre
modern and was not tainted by Western presuppositions that transhumanism
emerges from. And therefore transhumanism, which emerges from Western Christian
thought that I outlined in chapter one, it then needs
the necessary critique of Orthodoxy because it's the only thing

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that can give it a counterbalance due to the historical
trajectory of ideas and influences. And so I lay that
out of the introduction, and then we get into what
is the energy essence distinction. I talk about personhood and
participation and why this is different and why it's novel,
and Orthodoxy why it's different than Western Christianity. Then I

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get into logos theology, the logi. The logives me all
these different things I lay out and section B, and
then I am explicit about the epistemology, the metaphysics, and
the ethics. And so our epistemology is revelatory, right, so
we've had knowledge been revealed, and then because of our

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relationship to the Creator, we do have true knowledge of
the exterior world. Right, so therefore we don't nullify you know,
science or engineering or anything like that. Our metaphysics is
traditionally Christian, or it's really what I've laid out in
the energyes and distinction and logos, the I laid out
what our metaphysics is. It's this logos orient in metaphysics.
And then I highlight how we have a therapeutic ethic.

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So our ethics are all about of a healing of
the soul through the sacraments of the Church itself. And
that's what it means to be ethical, And what it
means to be ethical and virtuous is actually a therapeutic
process of transformation of the person. There is no concept
of a virtuous person who is just always at the

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same virtue or just always always virtuous despite some type
of process or transformation, because we believe if you're enacting
and embodying these uncreated energies, you're literally transforming oneself. And
so that's what chapter three is about. And then chapter
four is transfiguration God manhood versus man godhood. And what

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I'm doing is transfiguration is about what it was about
Christ revealing his divinity on Mount Tabor, and so our
deification model of transfiguration is about man becoming like God
man and so that means it's us following the God Man.
It's not our existential definition or creation of what divinity is.

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It's Jesus Christ as a state of divinity, and then
we are following him, participating in that deific process known
as theosis. And whereas transhumanism is a man godhood, it's
about man attaining a status of God without God being present.
God does not exist in their paradigm. God will exist
through through the technology, through the AI and then they

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will become God because they'll be fused with it, and
there will be very little ontological distinction between the AI
God and who these people think they're going to be
in the future, because essentially it's it's just a continuation
of the same process. So I lay out and define
these two terms god manhood versus man godhood, and those

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are not created by me. Actually, Brandon Gallaher, who he
might be an Orthodox priest. Somebody in the Chat said,
he's an Orthodox priest, but he's got a he's got
a philosophical article on transhumanism in one of the books
that was actually edited by Ted Peters, who was an
instructor at the university that I just got my doctoral
degree from. Anyways, Brendan Gallaher maybe a priest. Somebody said

(01:27:07):
he's a priest. I'm not sure, but he is a
PhD in philosophy, and so he utilizes Sergei Bokakov's distinction
between God manhood and man godhood. Now, Bokakov has some
heretical like he believed in, like sociology and stuff, so
you know, he's not often a person a theologian that

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a lot of Orthodox clergy appealed to because he had
some he had some heretical beliefs. But to give him,
to give him credit, he was very good in regards
to what he defined as God manhood, Orthodox theosis, and
man godhood, any sort of existential pursuit towards divinity, especially
coming out of a secular worldview, and so he had

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a lot of critiques of Nietzsche and you know, different
different Western thinkers. Bokakov is mid twentieth century. He's actually
an Orthodox Christian from Russia that ends up fleeing to Harris,
which a lot of people did at the time. So Bokakov,
I use his distinction there between God manhood and man godhood,
and then I lay out path through divinity. What again

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man godhood versus God or God manhood versus man godhood,
then immortal existence, and I did, and I define and
demonstrate how the existence, the center of one's personal autonomy
and personhood from the transhumanist perspective is their mind. Now,
they don't actually even believe in mind. They believe that

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it's an epiphenomenal process of brain connection, that that circuitry
and a you know, an electronic digital device will have
the same epiphenomenal happenings where a sort of mind, a
sentient mind will emerge. This is the theory that they
have based on their philosophy of mind. And so they
believe that the that through the interconnection creating digital interconnections

(01:28:54):
like the way a brain works, will then produce the
epiphenomenal result of a mind, which which then once the
AI gets that the ideas, it will be self conscious
and aware like we are. Obviously, that's a faulty definition,
and so I lay out one how that definition doesn't
even work within the philosophy of mind and is still
a minority opinion. But I also then highlight how Orthodoxy

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centers it around the soul, and I talk about the news,
and I talk about the noetic realities, and I distinguish
between a worldview that venerates mind versus a worldview that
venerates the soul, because our veneration of the soul includes
then a veneration of the body, where the transhumanist, by
definition of trying to escape the biological limitations of humanity,

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they are trying to leave the body behind. And in
that sense it's very gnostic, and in that sense it's
very satanic and demonic, because this is why we don't
cremate ourselves, as were Orthodox Christian. Your body is divine,
your body is special, and it's going to be restored
to you in a perfect state and the resurrection. So
that's why you don't you bury things of treasure. You

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burn trash. You know, you look at East Asian. Yeah,
they had a lot of people. So it makes sense
maybe why cremation became a modern, you know, a popular
process to dispose of dead bodies. But we Christians believe
that the body is special, and so you bury treasure,
and our body is a treasure. That's why we bury ourselves.

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And so the the chapter or subsection B in chapter
four then lays out this delineation between a veneration of
mind and a veneration of soul. And then it gets
into metaphysics and demonstrates the difference between henosis and theosis.
And this gets into hanos. Oh shout out to Jay Dyer.

(01:30:46):
God bless you, brother, he said, sounds like a great text.
Thank you so much, brother. Appreciate you stopping in and
saying that. God bless you. Bro. Hope you hope you
and Jamie are doing well. Looking forward to Florida. Bro.
In fact, I was gonna reach out to you like
this week to see what you were going to be
speaking about at the conference, so I can come up
with a topic. But maybe I'll do something from the book,

(01:31:09):
since I was gonna bring some copies with me in
case people. Oh thank you man, Thank you, he said.
He shared it on thank you Brother. I really appreciate that, man,
Jay's been so good to me. God bless you, Jay.
I really appreciate your friendship. Man. I've said that before,
but legit, Bro, I appreciate you. I appreciate you Jay,
God bless you and your wife. Man. So finishing up here.

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So the metaphysics, then, I demonstrate henosis is the neoplatonic
concept where everything becomes united to the one, and that
this is sort of the final endpoint, and that their
worldview is all about a refocusing. Obviously, neoplatonism is monistic
in its presupposition, so I highlight that transhumanism is a
sort of material henosis because everything's going to be materially

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connected back to the AI in one way or another.
So I highlight that their metaphysics are very different. Transhumanist
metaphysics privileges unity over multiplicity, and in fact, even in
the multiple people that may be hooked up with the machine,
they're in a way becoming the same person. Whereas theosis
is that both a theology as we've always talked about.

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And then the post secular moment, and I get into
then the why these two worldviews are in competition. Right now,
Why is orthodox theosis and competition with transhumanists And maybe
it sounds counterintuitive to people. Well, the reason is is
because of the what's referred to as the meaning crisis.
Right You've heard, you know, Peterson, Paggio, Verveaki, You've heard

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these guys talk about the meaning crisis over and over
and over and over again. Right. Well, it's a real thing,
and it's tied with this post secular, postmodern turn in
academia in the world where people are basically subjective and
units that are creating their own meaning. And so because
of that, I highlight that in our particular moment right now,

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the pre modern worldview of orthodoxy is one it is
appealing to young men, is appealing to a return to
something that is continuous and has a foundation to it.
And then transhumanism is appealing due to the mythology and
the cultural influence through Hollywood, comic books, you know, science fiction,
all that different stuff, and that in the search for meaning,

(01:33:28):
people have going to choose, you know, do I choose
the fulfillment of modernity, which is transhumanism, or do I
choose to opt out of the modernist project, which is
what Orthodoxy is. Because Orthodoxy is pre modern and that's
why I highlight it's not the same thing as Catholicism
or Protestantism, which are already influence of Renaissance and all
the modernists thinking from that point forward. So the only,

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so the really the only options to escape modernity in
the Western world is either you just choose to fulfill
it into post humanity through trans humanism, or you got
to opt out into a pre modern worldview. And so
I highlight that during the Meaning crisis, that's what's happening here.
And so as this war is going on or this

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this sort of memetic battle between what is most appealing
to people's mind, transhumanism or traditional understanding of Christian deification,
we are experiencing a return to Babylon from Adam to
Antichrist from the Orthodox perspective. Because I highlight what I
just demonstrate in chapter one, all these major figures, John Scotosi,
Regina Hugh of Saint Victor, Roger Bacon, Francis Bacon, the

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Roe Secrutions, all the major esoteric thinkers believed that we
were technology was going to restore us back to ademic perfection.
Adam before the Fall. Now we as Orthodox are going
to Christ, and we believe that Christ is the second atom.
So in Orthodoxy, there is no place in it in
which we are venerating Adam as the teleological endpoint of us.

(01:35:01):
That's not present. What we believe is that Christ is
the theological endpoint of everybody who follows him. That's who
we're trying to become like, that's who we're trying to
unite with. And so this battle from Adam to Antichrist,
what I demonstrate in this last section section E in
chapter four is that from the Orthodox paradigm, and so
I pull from all these clergy, I pull from metropolitans.

(01:35:24):
I have a quote from Patriarch Krill in Russia. I
pull from all these different Orthodox thinkers and saints talking
about how the utilization of technology for deification or these
totalizing narratives that they put forth is a modern Tower
of Babel two point zero return to Babylon, and it's
setting the stage for Antichrist. And so I end by

(01:35:47):
demonstrating that these two things that I've meticulously laid out,
orthodoxy and transhumanism are actually diametrical inversions of each other.
And while transhumanism pursuing its own goals and acting as if, yeah,
Orthodox theosis is the same thing that we're doing. From
an Orthodox perspective, this is actually contributing to the ending

(01:36:09):
of the world. From our eschological perspective, it's contributing to control,
it's contributing to the loss of submission to God, it's
contributing to, you know, the big Brother technocracy in which
everybody is going to be linked up and connected and manipulated.
And so then that is that is the last point.
And so the conclusion is the battle ensues which way

(01:36:31):
will Western civilization choose? Will Western civilization see a return
to Orthodoxy? As I highlight in the very introduction of
the entire book, that we're already seeing that Orthodoxy is
one of the fastest growing Again I hate using this, but
denominations of Christianity. I don't think we're a denomination, but
you get my point trying to articulate it. And so

(01:36:51):
we're one of the fastest growing in the Western world.
We're seeing unprecedented growth in Germany, in England and Ireland.
I don't know about France, but definitely America. And I'm
hearing good things in Canada. I really don't know how
big the numbers are in Canada, but I can say
for a fact Germany is definitely experiencing an Orthodox revival.
Many people are converting to Orthodoxy. America definitely is. I

(01:37:13):
know Ireland is. I've talked with people who are Orthodox
in Ireland saying that their churches are packed with Roman
Catholics converting, and I've heard that in England many Anglicans
are converting to Orthodoxy. So using that as a standard,
we can see that people, whether conscious or not, are
responding to the meaning crisis in the post secular, postmodern

(01:37:35):
point of our culture or late modernity, however you want
to describe it, by either opting into something pre modern
like Orthodoxy, which again they're doing at a subconscious level,
and not like people are choosing I need a pre
modern worldview. But that's what it's appealing about. It. It's
a return back to monarchy. It's a return back to tradition.
It's a return back to patriarchy. It's a return back

(01:37:56):
to specific roles for people right modernity. It's a return
back to mysticism. It's a turn back to God. Essentially
before the Enlightenment, rationalism has essentially undermined the roots of
Western civilization. And so that is happening. And at the
same time we see Trump signing project Stargate with with

(01:38:18):
Larry Ellison, we see in in sam Altman of open Ai,
we see Elon Musk Neuralink, we see Peter Tielen Pallantire,
we see on all these people are tied with the
Trump administration. So the whole point here is this is
a real, an essential memetic battle between the hearts and

(01:38:41):
minds of Western civilization. And these are the defining arguments
between deft deification, right, it's it's transhumanist deification, or it's
a return to orthodoxy, And and that's the whole point
of the book then, and highlighting that transhumanism is the trajectory.
Trans Humanism is the plan for the institutions, and transhumanism

(01:39:04):
from an orthodox perspective is a return to Babylon. And
its narrative is built in a from Adam to Antichrist,
you see, based on the premise of the book, So
that that is the idea of the book, and it
goes into uh, very much detail concerning all that stuff.
And you know now that I you know in the
Pallanteer stuff of Peter Tiel. Maybe I need to add

(01:39:27):
something like that into the introduction because by the time
I wrote the dissertation, this was in April, even though
we knew about Pallenteer and Peter Tiel, it just wasn't
as a a popular uh, it wasn't as popular to
talk about it as is right now in America. So
I make mention of Pallanteer and Peter Tiel in the book,
but I maybe should do add a little something to

(01:39:50):
be more explicit about that. Uh Oh. Bla throws in
five shout out to guys, go get runs. As I
said out, give a congratulations to Bla. Guys. His book
of poetry is number one in his category, number one
in his category. Give Bla some love, guys. That is incredible,

(01:40:14):
he says. Congratulations, Doctor Dph. I'm sending you a signed
author copy of my book. Recommend everyone get a copy
of your book right now. Love you a migo. I
love you, Bla, and I'm going to do the same thing.
I will set aside one of my copies and I'm
going to sign it and send it to you as well. Brother,
So don't buy one. I'm going to send you one bla.

(01:40:34):
So God bless you. Bro, really really appreciate your friendship
as well. Man, God bless you. Thank you for the support.
Elite Beaver throws in five says transhumanism is so cowardly,
theosis is hard work and the truth. Congrats on the book. Well,
thank you very much, Elite Beaver. I second that notion
as well. I think that is also true. Jacob in four.

(01:41:01):
Oh my gosh, yes, let me. I got another thing
to show you guys too before we hop off here.
Did you guys know I got a new official clips channel. Yes.
So people have been asking me forever, dude, you need
to create a clips channel. You need to create just
a dedicated clips channel, and so I am working with

(01:41:22):
actually a buddy from the Logos Academy and we just
created one. So if you go over to YouTube, put
in doctor dph Clips. Doctor dph Clips is the name
of the YouTube channel. You'll see. This is the first

(01:41:43):
video that was just posted. We got fifty seven views.
Go give it a subscribe, smash the like. We're gonna
get tons and tons of content right here. So we're
gonna try to post like at least two to three
clips of my streams, or at least the most interesting
points on here. So if you want, you know the tie,
you know, bite sized stuff, because my streams are long.

(01:42:06):
I mean today's stream is going to be one of
my shorter streams. It's still two hours. It's a problem
I have. I need to go to therapy. I just
keep going. It's like they're like three and four hours long.
It's too much. And I know that, and I know
for you got hardcore people out there like you enjoy
the long form, you enjoy the in depth. But I've

(01:42:27):
had so many people like bro, I got children, I
got a job. You need to create a clips channel.
So we do have the official clips channel of Doctor
David Patrick Carey of Church of the Eternal Logos, of
the Logos Academy. We're so members only content or even
maybe private Q and as. The clips from that stuff
will all be posted over here on this new channel.

(01:42:48):
So we got eighteen subscribers. So if you guys can't
go over to doctor DPH Clips, I'm going to share
that link with you guys right here. Go over to
doctor dph Clips and give us a subscribe. I'd be
very very appreciative. This is as I said, our new
official clips channel, So we got eighteen let's see if

(01:43:10):
anybody just went and subscribe, we got twenty six awesome,
So if you guys, you're going to see a lot
more content coming out of there. And right now, my
life is super crazy and we're trying to get my
wife and I are trying to get approved on a house.
We don't know if that's going to get through or not.
God willing it does. So once I get to my

(01:43:35):
new place, which could be as early as next week
or maybe in months, we have no idea it's but
if we do get it approved in the near future,
I'm going to put off putting out content on my
old YouTube channel. I'm going to take down all the
content on that old YouTube channel, Doctor David Patrick Carey.
It's got like seventy four thousand subs, and I'm going

(01:43:58):
to start putting out new types of content that you're
not going to see on church e turnal logos basically
kind of like what the Daily Wire does, where I
play videos of the latest things happening in culture and
giving some commentary on it. So they're gonna be like
ten to twenty no more than thirty minute long videos.
The goal is to keep them short and bite sized
and not to be clips, be their own single uploaded video.

(01:44:21):
So anyway, so that's the idea there. In Okay, Jay's
gonna be live after me, so I'm gonna, oh nice,
and he's going to be talking about on ISIS and
you know, the bad guys of the Middle East, little

(01:44:44):
al Qaeda and stuff like that. So I will raid you, Jay,
because I got to hop off here soon. In fact,
I ca need to hop off here right now because
my friends we're getting ready to go have beer and pizza.
So I'm pretty stoked about that. But Jacob, my friend
who's helping me with the clips channel, he said, go
check out doctor dph Clips. Happy birthday Dph many years. Well,

(01:45:06):
thank you so much, brother. Again, go support our new
clips channel, Doctor dph Clips. This is the official clips
channel for all my work and I'm really excited to
see where this goes. In the next six months. We're
gonna be putting out tons and tons of videos, so
it should be a lot of good stuff over there.

(01:45:28):
And again, don't forget if you guys want to support
my work and join our Logos Academy, our men's only
community where again we just did a thing diving into
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So we were doing deep dives on anything and everything.

(01:45:49):
In fact, one person wants to we're talking to a
shout out to Jonathan Nubye. We're talking about maybe next
time reading and Praise at the Devil, which is a
academic two page article that Max Moore, the transhumous philosopher,
wrote for an atheistic journal. But that's kind of what
we do is we get little bite sized readings, articles,
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(01:46:10):
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(01:46:33):
And if you want to get paperback, hardback or kindle ebook,
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I just got a new peptide affiliate sponsor. I'm going
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(01:47:42):
He says, Oh no, here, I am to argue shout
out to FDA. We talked about the purity spiraling I
get whenever I bring up nicotine pouches, and we'll see
how people purity spiral when I bring up peptides to
help you recover and build more muscle. Yeah, it's an

(01:48:05):
inside joke. It's an inside joke. Did I miss the
opportunity to join for twenty five dollars a month. Yeah, brother,
that was the first week the Logos Academy was open.
I may do a special in the future, but right
now it's thirty five and once I get more of
my courses up there, it's kind of go up in
price again. So unfortunately, banana bread, that's the price right now.

(01:48:30):
I may do a special in the future, but it's
just ten dollars more. It's thirty five dollars a month.
But we do tons of stuff in there, very active community.
So if that's something you'd like to be a part
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(01:48:50):
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then if you guys want to sponsor a stream, we
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(01:49:10):
going to get done here soon. But I got a
handful of topics I also personally want to do, so
I'll be doing those as well. But you can sponsor
a stream with that link right there. Let me see
if let me see if anybody said anything in I
didn't cover elite. Beaver throws another two bucks, says streams

(01:49:34):
too short, longer please. Normally people say the opposite, They
say I stream too long. I need to be more concise.
I feel like I'm pretty concise and stay on point
most of the time. People still wish that I would
make shorter streams. I'm sorry, guys, I'm a little bit verbose,
too loquacious. Pierre throws in five, so's kong raptal ratulations

(01:50:03):
and oh, congratulations on your book. I see, congratulations on
your book, Dave. Well, thank you very much. Pierre. I'm
currently communing communing at a Baptist church, but plan to
transition to Orthodoxy and join the Logos Academy. Well, Pierre,
we'd love to have you, brother. You know, Logos Academy
is a great place for a bunch of Orthodox men

(01:50:25):
from you know, all different walks of life. So we
would love to have you and and we can help
you and walk you through the process. You know, Orthodoxy
is a journey, and you know converting is going to
take over a year through the Catechism. But what we
do in some of the content we make will certainly
help reinforce your Catechism and your understanding of everything. So yeah,

(01:50:49):
so please check out check out the Orthodox Church closest
to you, man, join the Logos Academy, and if you're
interested in some good reading, do check out the book.
I would appreciate that. So let me just double check.
I don't want to miss anybody today. Then I'll get

(01:51:09):
you guys over to dire Loquacious is such a good word,
but it sounds like it's describing sounds like it is
describing a sassy black woman. That's funny. It didn't. That
wasn't in my head. But now that you say that,

(01:51:29):
I can certainly I can certainly make it a mental picture.
Thank you very much. Rationally or Irritable says proud of
your work. Bro, Thank you very much. Man. I hope
that it's I hope that it's useful for people, and
I hope that people get something good out of it.
Dell says, I'll purchase it soon, brother, Well, thank you
very much. Man. Oh Shepherd's sign copy order. I can't

(01:51:52):
wait to see how many people sign purchase and signed copies.
So anyways, guys, that looks like, yeah, let me just
double check make sure I didn't miss anyone, Okay. D
Bailey throws in five. D Bailey twenty four throws in five.
On stream lab it says happy birthday in many years Patrick, Well,
thank you so much, de Bailey. Can you comment a

(01:52:15):
bit on the Orthodox view of natural theology. I think
it is mostly rejected, but wondering how it fits within
our worldview? Cheers. Well, if you're looking for an academic
work on that, I would absolutely recommend this one right here.
It's called Natural Theology in the Eastern Orthodox Tradition by

(01:52:35):
doctor David Bradshaw. So, David Bradshaw is I actually quote
this book in my book, and so we don't reject
natural theology. The problem is the beginning with natural theology
from a sort of apologetic and theological system, so we

(01:52:56):
believe we we begin with revelation, we begin with a
nix experience, a mysticism. That doesn't mean that we can't
have natural knowledge of the external world. We would say, yeah,
of course you can. We would say the problem with scholasticism,
which then becomes philosophy, and then you know, higher education,
the university system is that it relies too much on

(01:53:18):
our rational faculties as a way in which we come
to know God. So if we only come to know
God through a rational apprehension of natural processes that we
can observe, that does not include space for the mystical
encounter which we believe you can gain knowledge from. You
can commune with God, you unite with Him in a
spiritual mystery. So natural theology, you know, we have a

(01:53:43):
place for natural theology, but it's shrouded in all of
these presuppositions. First and foremost, we would argue that Scholasticism,
in its historical trajectory, basically set the foundations because of
its Aristotilian prepositions. It sets the foundation for a sort
of over reliance on logic and rational argumentation and logical

(01:54:08):
and rational apprehension of the world as the basis as
a defense and articulation of faith. So we would we
would say, there's something useful there, but that is not
the central thrust on how we then go about defining
and articulating our theological worldview. So this book he gives credence.

(01:54:31):
He demonstrates how we would understand natural theology from an
Orthodox perspective, which is going to be different from a
sort of Western especially a scholastic approach to the topic.
So that's that would be the book that I would
recommend if if that is a topic you want to
dive deeper into. So yeah, Big beautiful Bill Hicks throws

(01:54:55):
in five. Thank you so much, Big Beautiful Bill Hicks ays,
Happy birthday, David Patrick, carry many well. Thank you so much, man,
God bless you and the family. Really appreciate the birthday
wish from everybody everybody in the chat. Thank you all
so much for the birthday wishes and being here, and
especially anybody who purchased the book. I'm so excited about it.

(01:55:16):
I am excited for people to read it only as
of right now, so anybody who's bought it only let's
see the three people on my dissertation committee, myself, b
L A and the Escaton Vigil and Jose, you know
Jose from the open panels, Jose, those are the only
so seven people have actually read this work. Those are

(01:55:37):
the only seven people. So when you guys read it,
you know, I do not know how most people will
will take it or how people will approach the text.
But I'm excited to get feedback from everybody and see
what you guys think. So all right, guys, well let

(01:55:57):
me let me see if I can get you guys
to go raid dire again smash that like. Thank you
all so much for the birthday wishes and being here today. Redirect.
Let's go, Jay Dyer. All right, Okay, guys, God bless
you all. Please go get Return to Babylon from Adam

(01:56:18):
to Antichrist on Amazon or through my website, and guys,
please if I could just request, please, please, please please
go give a review and leave a comment on Amazon
so that the book will get pushed to the top
of its categories and I can get exposure to people
that don't follow this YouTube channel, but other people can
get access. So please, guys, if you purchase from Amazon,

(01:56:41):
you have an Amazon account, please give me a positive review.
It would be so beneficial to the exposure of the
book and getting into the Amazon algorithm. So anyways, with that, guys,
I don't have much left. God bless you all. Thank
you all so much for the support, and I will
see you guys later this week as always, until next time,

(01:57:03):
God bless

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