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Speaker 1 (00:06):
The hell.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
All right, Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is David
Patrick Carey with Church of the Eternal Logos and I
am joined today by Conrad, as you guys know from
World War Now and my brother friend and colleague the
Escaton Vigil. How you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Doing great?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So I'm excited for today's conversation Conrad, you and Dmitri.
Unfortunately Dmitri had a schedule conflict he couldn't join us today,
but you guys just did a stream it was like
two days ago, two or three days ago, kind of
covering the latest happenings in the Middle East, and that's
what we're going to be talking about today. You guys
know that the Escaton Vigil has been translating works and
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we've been talking about World War three, some of these
Orthodox prophecies and really Conrad world, we're now the Escaton
visual These are kind of the guys that are talking
about these things and are familiar. So that's what our
conversation is today. So without further ado, either one of
you guys, where do you guys want to start today's
conversation in regards to the conflict between Israel Iran? Obviously
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this has been talked about by some of the elders
regarding Israel attacking the Iranian nuclear facilities, which that has occurred.
Any one of you guys feel free to take it away.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, I mean I've done the stream that we did.
I did it because normally on Friday evenings Dmitri, my
co host, who couldn't make it, that's when we record
our weekly show where we analyze what we consider the
ongoing Third World War. And we realized if we record
this right now when post it, when we normally do
Sunday afternoon, everything we say will just be completely irrelevant.
So we just did a live stream and it went well.
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But now here we are thankfully live as well, because
I think right now we're sort of all on the
edge of our seats for the next escalation, which is
the US going to get directly involved in some kind
of capacity or not, which again the fact that we
already have passed the deadline, the prophesied reality of the
strike on there's really nuclear programs. I've seen evidence, you know,
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not just you know. I was skeptical when I heard
about it because the original quote from Elder Theodore Aguiofarranghidi's
that I heard is about a missile penetrating and hitting
Iran's nuclear capabilities, you know when you're drinking your coffee
in the morning. And I saw another version of it
recently that said it would happen on a Friday morning,
all these things, which as far as I could tell,
that's legit, that wasn't just made up after the fact,
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that happened on Friday the thirteenth. Yeah, a very very
fateful day. Indeed, and right now so many things are
happening that again to speculate too much and report on
the on I mean, right now we're about to see
what the ninth missile barrage from Iran. I think is
what my phone is telling me in this exact moment
four eight pm Central time here. But I think we
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are waiting on if Trump, if sentcom, if the US
security apparatus is going to actually get us as I mean,
we're already involved. We're shooting that Rani and missiles, we're
protecting Israel, We're enabling them to do all of this stuff.
The question is how far are we going to take this?
And right now it seems that i'd say the majority
of people behind the scenes in power in our country
want us to go to war, and Trump is kind
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of drawing the line in the sand that we're only
going to do it if our bases are attacked, which
as of right now is very much on the table
for the Iranians. So I think the most important aspect
of the fulfilled prophecy for us at this point is
the fact that once that occurred, we heard that the
events would so precipitously escalate that we wouldn't really be
able to keep up with them. So I'm not trying
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to stoke fear a panic. I think in many ways
we should be confident as Christians that these things are
happening that were told to us, that if we for
those with ears to hear, we're given an opportunity to
understand what was about to occur. So I don't think
there's any reason to despair at all. I understand some
people sort of listen to this stuff and have that perspective,
but I think right now we are right on the
cusp of that precipitation, And is that going to be
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us involvement? Is that going to be something in Turkey
with the fall of Airdwan, Is it going to be
something in Ukraine? Could it be all three of those
things at once. I'm not sure, but I think now
it's it's just a matter of you know, I think
the summer, as I said, I said weeks ago that
the summer was going to tell the tale on these strikes.
It seems now that the summer is going to tell
the tale on the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Perhaps, right, Yeah, there's you mentioned stoking fear, and earlier today,
I believe it was released Nahu released a video that mentioned, well,
if today's Tel Aviv, but tomorrow's New York City, right,
And that's well, yeah, that's that's a pretty pretty big comment.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And that's not in the prophecies, by the way.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And I saw when you looked at the Samson option
and the list of cities, New York City, Los Angeles,
and I think Chicago were the ones that are on
the Israeli.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
List see think as well.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, as you mentioned Conrad regarding US involvement,
I mean that I was really really disappointed with with
Donald Trump and like his statements the day after essentially
insinuating that we knew we helped, we're not directly or
again he tried, you know, we're not directly at war
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with Iran or participating, but they're using our intelligence, We're
working with Masad, we're working with Israel. And of course
the carrier ship is now headed to the Middle East.
That was today. So and when you look at the
just the mass propaganda I posted on X a few
days ago, and I'm sure Conrad you saw it, and
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the ESCAM vigil saw it regarding all the US politicians
essentially putting out the same exact message about how we
have to pray for Israel and support Israel, and there's
just and then you look at the actual MAGA supporters
and it seems like the majority of people are kind
of on the other side. And so for the domestic population,
it seems like they're kind of losing the propaganda war.
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But to see what the US government is on both
sides of the Aisle, you know, I don't have a
lot of optimism that we're not going to be drawn
into this. And I suspect when Trump says that the
only way we get involved is our military base we're attacked,
doesn't seem unprobabilistic that a false flag occurs that makes
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that something that all of a sudden we're gung ho
into this war, and whether Iran does it or maybe
another small Middle Eastern nation does, that's just I just
feel like, and I saw today Tucker Carlson was on
with Steve Bannon, and I have a similar sentiment to
him that I just have no optimism that we're not
going to be involved. It just feels like it's just
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a matter of time at this point.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well, and look at Trump. I think the statement that really,
regardless if this had happened now or happened a few days,
weeks and months from now, the statement that I think
sealed the was when Trump said he comes out strongly,
I will not let Net and Yahoo drag us into
a war. And you're like, yo, that might be one
of the most base things Trump's ever overtly said, only
to then follow it up with if things happen a
certain way, I'll take us there myself. Just hold on.
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You don't actually care about war, the actual issue, or
like what's actually happening here with our country being directed
towards war with Iran, specifically for the Greater Israel project.
You just care about being perceived as in control of
the situation.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Or not exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You're not. You're pretty much admitting that you're not with
that statement, but if you can convince people to think
that you are, then you'll do whatever and that. And
if you if you realize that war is inevitable, well
you're going to lean into it because the perception would
be that you're weak and getting dragged into it. And
that's what Trump cares about. It's branding, it's legacy, it's
those sorts of things. I think maybe, if you pressed him,
he's ideologically anti war, but at this point, I think
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he thought maybe that giving the West Bank and Syria
to the Israelis was going to be enough, But no,
they're going to take the whole kit and kaboodle. They're
going for Iran. They're going for the full Greater Israel project. Politically,
because the Laikudniks know that their time is very limited
as far as their the strengthening power of their political opposition,
as well as just their growing global unpopularity in the
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midst of the Gaza jest side, but they realize and
then on top of all of that, these things were prophesied,
These things are happening because in many ways, the entire
world has failed to repent. So I think at this
point regardless of what Trump wants, the Israelis want it.
They're the ones that are in power. And if that's
what's going to happen, Trump is going to direct it
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to where. I mean, look at some of these people,
like General Flynn. People thought he was some sort of
secret pat His.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Most recent yeah, discussions on this conflict have really opened
my eyes to see again how deeply entrenched dyingism is
an American politics.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I mean, I mean, if you're paying attention during Stop
the Steel in twenty twenty, he was with a bunch
of boomers blowing the show far talking about qanons.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So I didn't I wasn't aware of that. I didn't
catch that.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, he was big, and Stop the Steel was That
was when, like even myself was getting caught up in
some of the more conspiratorial Trump messianic fervor. And in
the midst of that, that's when I started realizing that
Trump is likely more of a type of the Antichrist,
or a false sort of prophetic figure as it were,
that's gonna kind of Piede piper Us into a war
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for Israel. Well, I was still a big Trump fan,
you know, I voted for him in both of these elections,
but well before any of these other people. Now, a
lot of people Nick Fuentes, Candas Owens, these other people
are sort of getting aware of the Trump siop that
it was time to hop off the train. I was
aware of that because a good friend of mine was
live streaming all of the Stop the Steel protests and
all of it was this crazy Zionist, evangelical QAnon eschatological
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and unsense about Trump and an Israel and secret military
tribunals and all this kind of stuff. And I'm like,
even if any of that was, even if any of
the schizo stuff there was half true, it sounds like
they'd be imprisoning people from what we're seeing now with
all this Palantiner stuff being anti Semitic and basically getting
a Zionist you know, thought crime panopticon set up, which
if we do get involved in a war against Iron
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for Israel, that's going to rapidly accelerate exactly because they're
going to realize how many people are going to get
radicalized towards the type of things that we're talking about
on here, right.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
And I think it becomes more and more obvious that
there will be some form of you know, false flag attack, whatever,
because they need the support, and they're all about the optics.
The only reason why TikTok one of them. You know
that we're trying to push that and shut that down
because of the anti sympotism supposedly and whatever else. So
as soon as they need that support, they'll do whatever
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it takes to make sure the support exists.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And I was wanting to talk a little bit about
again how as Orthodox Christians we can kind of begin
to view this. I know, we got a lot to
dive into in today's stream, and the Eschaton Visuals put
together an itinerary in regards to some of the events
that are saying, and elders have talked about things that
have transpired, things that are yet to transpire. But what
are your guys' thoughts, again, just viewing this from the
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wisdom of the elders. And I know Conrad you've met
metropolitan neo photosa morphu. Can you guys just kind of
describe what you guys are seeing regarding the unfolding of
these events.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I mean, I think that I truly think that what
has been said in motion at this point pretty much
can't be undone and that's not to say that that's
something one hundred percent saying that we all know this
is about repentance. This isn't about predicting the future like
Nostra damis. This is about trying to in my opinion,
thinking about these things, if you think about them regularly
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at all, it's about trying to mold your entire life
into the Orthodox way and understanding that, you know, sort
of having an inculturated Velton shown that doesn't just include
a historical perspective that we have with the saints and
with our ancestors and with you know, our parish, but
also the future and what's going to happen, you know,
much like you know, the Israelites and the Old Testament
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are those that followed Christ had many had faith in
all sorts of the second coming. We all still have
that common faith with you know, very early, you know,
disciples of the Apostles and those things who weren't the
first generation of people that didn't you know, meet Jesus
in his incarnate form. And I think that when we
see these things happening now, when we see how like
we just talked about earlier, all these political realities that
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many people in the past weeks and months have come
to the same conclusions of us that have been talking
about these things for years now, just because of their
real politique, real geopolitical analysis. And that's exactly what it
said Mitropolitan Theopito sant Pezos, they said, the prophecies will
become headlines. That's one of the things that they regularly
talk about. And we know that, I mean Metropolitan Jofutos
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regularly talks about Eldris Galactia for example, who I'm sure
you both are very familiar with. And she talked about
the things that are leading to this, and it's satanism,
a cult worship at the highest levels of government. It's
sexual perversion both in public and in private, even in
the bedrooms of married couples, and these kinds of things
finally got to the point, I mean this as well
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as a humanism and other things. And these things have
gotten to a point now where God has deduced that
the only way to get us to shape up is
to slap us around a little bit, or else things
are going to get too far gone where many of
us would fall for you know, the impending Antichrist or
even proto little a antichrists that are going to inevitably,
inevitably be emerging as all of this goes on. So
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Metropolitan Yovito's, for example, I had planned to write a
whole article about some things that happened to me and
the people I was with in Cyprus that very much
have to do with him and Metropolitan Tichicos's persecution in
Cyprus by the Ecumenical Patriarchate and their huppets in the
Archbishopric of Cyprus of Nicotia.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
For those who don't know, because I mentioned this in
a stream and then I saw people message me, they're
not familiar with what's going on in Cyprus. Can you
give them a little bit of an overview?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Sure? Sure, So. In Cyprus they're very much split down
the middle on the issue of mainly the U Ukrainian
Orthodox Church schism in Ukraine, with the archbishop and then
a small majority of the bishops of the Autocephalist Church
of Cyprus they support the schismatics, the OCU, the people
that have no business anywhere near that.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Unfortunately, Patriarch Bartholomew has recognized.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
And Archbishop Georgios basically had the patriot the archbishop election
stolen for him after the previous archbishop fell out. It
was very much supposed to be Metropolitan Athanasios of Lamassol.
There was some trickery and political intrigue involved that resulted
in Archbishop Georgios, formerly Metropolitan of Paphos, becoming the head
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of the Church of Cyprus to this day Metropolitan the Ofitos.
For example, our hero here on this stream, I'm sure
most people are familiar with them. He has yet to
con celebrate with Archbishop Georgios, because Archbishop Georgios con celebrates
with the Ukrainian Schismatics. After Archbishop Georgios became head of
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the Church of Cyprus, an ar command rate named Tichicos
then became Metropolitan tichi KOs of Paphos. Archbishop Georgios was
this guy's spiritual father, but immediately upon becoming metropolitan he
basically reveals his power level and refuses to con celebrate
with Archbishop Georgios like Metropolitan the Olfitos, and basically goes
like full hardcore traditional Orthodox bishop, all this kind of stuff.
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I was able to meet him as well and stay
with him in Paphos when I was there in August
of twenty twenty four and a few weeks ago he
was dethroned by the Church of Cypress from his metropolia.
He is still a bishop. He wasn't you know, lay
asize or anything like that. He was just no longer
the bishop metropolitan of Paphos. And this was done not canonically.
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There was not enough votes to depose him. He's already
appealed to the Ecumenical Patriarchate, which is good because it
gives him like six months of still being the metropolitan
regardless of how it goes. However, it's not going to
go anywhere because that Ecumenical patriarch's the one that sent
the letter wanting to dethrone him to begin with. Right,
and the unfortunate news is now that they successfully got
rid of Tichkos, they're now turning their eye or towards
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Metropolitan Theofitos, which I'm not convinced they have the political
power to do mech Poltanjovtos is the most senior member
of the Synod. He's been a bishop since nineteen ninety eight,
so I don't really know if they and they barely
They had to change the rules on the amounts of
votes to get rid of Tichkos, so I don't think
they have the political capabilities of doing what they could,
the beloved metropolitan, the Oofitos. But in trying to talk
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about some of the stuff and publish what happened to
me Mechropoltanjokutos reached out and he was like, nah, I
don't think you should do this. I don't want to stoke,
you know, controversy in the news, because I think he's
he seems convinced that there's no need really to fight
a lot of this stuff, because it seems that the
prophecies are going to be unfolding in a way that
will lead to a lot of these things being worked out,
whether it's a tenth new Ecumenical Council or just some
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of these things just getting worked out because of the
chaos of a massive Third World war. So, you know,
in a certain level, that affected me personally because I
did want to tell the stories. It was very interesting
and I think it would shed some light on what's
really going on in Cyprus, the level of corruption that
we're dealing with here, especially as it relates to the
geopolitical situation at Russia, Ukraine and now with this other
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stuff involving US and EU involvement. But you know, he
didn't want to stoke any more flames. He's just trusting
God on this one, and I guess that is I
think that's what everyone should be doing obviously. So yeah,
that's I think the fact that we're seeing that persecution
of the sort of the main messenger of the events
that we're seeing unfolded today is no coincidence.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Not just not just there, but also the Sphegmeneum Ministry,
the monastery, they're all the issues that they were having
where they were being targeted. They were the only monastery
that didn't take money from the EU. I believe I
think some effect of that and that led them to
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be uh you.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Targeted as vigil What are your thoughts regarding the again,
the events that we've seen between Israel and Iran in
regards to all the prophecies and all the work that
you've done regarding translations. How are you kind of putting
this stuff together and put connecting the dots.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, I look at it like, and you know, we
kind of we live in eschatological faith. We we you know,
are the four bearers. You know, all all the profits
of the Old Testament were given signs to say, hey,
look for this for the first coming, right, and now
we have profits for our generation to look for. Look
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at these signs for this, you know, for all of
this to take place. And it's pretty obvious that all
of this line is up very well. It would be
different if there were you know, if it was kind
of like some type of nostronomous nonsense. But this is specific,
it is relevant. It is and sometimes it doesn't even
make sense at the time when it's said, and it
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could be fifty plus years, but regardless, these people are
viewed with the Holy Spirit, and they are capable of
seeing things and we can't. They've been given knowledge that
we don't have. And just as we look at them
for the knowledge of our own salvation, we look at
these elders for their advice on all these other different topics.
Why would we weave out the prophecies that they gave
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us to say, hey, just so you know things are
going to get hairy. You know, there's there's a time
when you know, you same cosmos. Some of his are
are some of the best ones because the language is
a little bit different because it's archaic, but it goes
to show, you know, it's so relevant because of all
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of the pieces. Okay, well, there's taxes that will be coming.
Those will be you know, put on people there there
keep a rightful give one away, like all these different
things that kind of archaic language but still very relevant
to everything that is going on now. So putting all
those together, you you, I kind of look at it
like in concordance. So if there's one state that says
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one specific thing that's interesting, if there are three, then
you've got a bunch of kind of you know, you've
got different colors on the palette. So eventually you have
a full painting. And that's kind of what I what
I've tried to assemble in some of that and the
document that I send, there's there's a lot of a
lot of notes that can kind of tie all of
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this together.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, we're gonna go over the document and just just
use it as a conversation piece. And if you guys
want access to the document, go sign up at the Escaton, Vigil,
escanonvigil dot com and dot org I'm sorry, and get
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e documents if you guys want and make sure go
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check out their substack and and support support our brothers
in regards to all this work. But Conrad, you made
a good point because I always tell people when we
when we do these streams on eschatology is we're not
believe you know, we're not Protestants, and we don't put
on timelines or hard dates regarding anything. And the way
we believe that these events unfold has to do with
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the repentant heart of people the planet, everybody that's involved
in these issues, and so it is tied with the
debauchery and the level of sinfulness that has become normalized.
And in turn, like Israel attacking Iran, I mean, this
was a world war crime, like they violated international law.
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And it's really just you know, Western Europe and the
US that is just turning a blind eye to every
all these global packs and agreements about how we engage
with war and how countries go about you know, potentially
turning to violent resolutions. But it's all, in my estimation,
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part of this larger spirit of Antichrist, and it's it's
this hypocrisy. It's the propaganda, you know, like all the
politicians saying that Israel has to defend it defend itself,
defend itself. It was the aggressor and the gas lighting
of people. And this is to me a mark of
the evil one, because he's the lie, he's the father
of lives, he's the deceiver. And we're seeing the power
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players in our own country just constantly gaslight and lie
to our face. And that's where you know, undergirding all
this stuff is absolutely a spiritual reality and it's not
something to cause anxiety. As Conrad said, this is something
that we as Orthodox Christians, in a way should be
relieved that our saints, our elders have eyes to see
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and we need ears to hear in regards to what
they've seen. And as long as we repent, as long
as we're doing the best we can, there's really nothing
to worry about. Just as he said with Metropolitan neophotos,
it's like we got to let God handle this stuff.
But the fact that the nuclear facilities were struck and
we've been talking, I mean for the last at least
on this channel. I know, Conrad, you've been doing it
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longer than I've been discussing it, but at least for
the last year and a half two years I've been
doing content on Orthodox eschatology, and we said, this is
going to be the first domino. And there's been multiple
instances where it's like that was a headline in the
news and then it didn't happen, and then it happened.
And I messaged the Escaton vigil like five minutes after
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the strikes in Iran, and he turned on a YouTube
stream and I kid you not, the way that the
rhetoric that was being put at saying that this was
going to last for days literally mimicked the prophecies that
our elders had. I mean, I was stunned because I
turned it on after he said and it was almost
word for word. It's not that the news analyst. This
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was some random guy on YouTube and he was just
reading news reports coming out of Israel and statements coming
from Netan Yahoo and his his cabinet, and it's like, wow,
this stuff is unfolding. And you know, one of the
things that we've talked about is then Aerogon and how
exactly he steps down or maybe he gets ill or
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something happens. But I know that Conrad, you were sharing
on x and I pulled up the same thing. Actually
have an article is that he's already he said he's
not seeking reelection in twenty twenty eight, So we don't
know the timeline of these events or how exactly it's
going to unfold. But that's another domino, another sign we
have to keep our eyes open.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Towards, especially with Erdwin. I mean, he's not a young man,
he's not a very well man, so for him, again
it's that's a day to day sort of thing that
could really when it happens. Again, I am based on
how things have happened so far and again at this point,
I know that with Israel and Iran, and for those
who are really paying attention to Metropolitan, you know, if
we tol Us in the prophecies October seventh, maybe some
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people started talking about this stuff. People started looking into
Orthodox stuff when the sat Portfudio's Orthodox Church was struck,
for example in St. Paiicios, you know, for example, he
said that the Dead Sea would be their graves in
Gaza would be flattened like a I mean, the translation
is like stadium, but it basically means like flattened like
a like a field, like a flat playing field, And
that of course has already happened. But even before that,
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when Dimitri and I, my co host, started our show.
The event that precipitated me realizing because I've been thinking
about it for a long time. I used to run
a newsletter called The American Byzantine, where I knew I
even back in eighteen twenty nineteen, I was referencing the
prophecies of Sant Paisios and these sorts of things, writing
about the Donbas War well before the Special military Operation,
which again for people that don't realize, how back then
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the only people paying attention were the orthodox religious people
that really cared. So I mean, going to the early
history of the Ukraine War, you're learning about Strelkov and
the things that he was doing with his troops and
what was actually going on on the ground there. It's
very much an Orthodox civilizational conflict that has since expanded
out arguably to Syria to these other places. That is,
it's very much been a precipitating factor. And the event
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that finally made me realize I need to start a
show talking about what I've got considered to be the
Third World War that is going on right now was
when the America blew up the nord Stream pipelines a
few months after the beginning of the special military operation.
And when you read the prophecies of Saint Lawrence of Chernigov's,
Elder Jonah of Odessa, Elder Zosima of don Bas, these
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incredible more modern day saints and prophets, and realize how
they line up with the timeline for what's going on
in the Middle East and what's going to go on
in Greece and Turkey, you realize what people will obviously
accuse people of, especially when we start getting into the
prophecies about Saint John Vittatsas is, this is just Greek
f no nationalist LARPing. This is just a bunch of
Greek people that picked their favorite historical figure and really
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think it would be cool if he came back. And look,
I you know, I get it right. I'm not saying
that the things I say aren't crazy. I've long gotten
past being offended at people thinking I'm stupid. But I
think when you realize that there were Russian saints and
Serbian saints, and Arab saints and Georgian saints and saints
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that lived in the West that say these same things,
especially especially the Greeks. You know, the Greek's very proud
people if they were just making this stuff up, they
would be the prophecies would say that they would retake
Constantinople themselves, right, And that's not what it says. They
say that the Russians have to do it for them.
And then you look at the prophecies of someone like
Eldris Don Yushka of Siberia who says that there will
come a prince from the lands that gave us our
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faith is Antium. The Greeks, so they will again, I
think against because the people that are very religious in
these countries Russia and Greece are also very nationalistic, and
I don't think either one of them and their interpretation
of a lot of their holy people want to admit
that there's going to have to maybe be some synthesis,
so there's going to have to be some cooperation, and
that you know, the Greeks who don't want to give up,
you know, Constantinople for the third Rome title of the Russians,
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and the Russians who don't want to you know, admit
that they have to get help from anybody. I think
some of these prides are going to get resolved because
the geopolitics, I mean specifically say Paiicios. He talks about
how there's no way that you know, the Russians are
going to take Constantinople for like, you know, really based
Orthodox reasons. He says, you know, geopolitics will basically precipitate it. However,
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Eldress Galaktiya says that they actually will do it for
brotherly Orthodox reasons. So people will say, oh, well, they contradict. Well,
I think it's more so there's a good option and
then there's maybe a less good option that's still going
to happen regardless of how the Russians shape up and
become Orthodox. But I think, just like Metropolitaniofitto says, many
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of these things, much like the prophecy and the Old
Testament of the destruction of Nineveh, if the desired outcome
of the prophecies being given, which is repentance, occurs, then
maybe they don't happen at all, or maybe they happen
in a very mediated, moderated way. And some of the
prophecies are even given explicitly in this regard about if
something happens starting in the south, which is something happens
starting in the north, and Metropoltaniofto's told me himself that
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if things start in the North with Russia and NATO
bombing and Scandinavia's that's like a worst case scenario. If
that starts happening, then we really need to start praying.
So and again, we know that these events are going
to start precipitating rather quick. So that sounds crazy that
something like that would happen. But people didn't think the
SMO was going to happen. People didn't think Israel was
going to strike around its nuclear capabilities. People didn't think
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Israel was going to stand down on October seven. Then
let all of that happen exactly, And that's been the
like you said earlier, Patrick, that's been the sort of
precipitating factor that the Israelis have used. Again. They just
they they're still using October seventh to justify just completely
first striking Iran, which I don't know the connection there.
Thamas are like sunny well hobbies where Iranians are you know,
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Shia revolutionaries, but they're they're still using that currency. And
then the whole I was going to bring this up earlier,
the whole prisoner rhetoric about all for our prisoners, for
our prisoner is you know, how many Palestinian prisoners the
Israelis have. It's like ends of thousands they have, or
like thirteen and they haven't seen and they're going to
get out, be in their thirties, haven't seen the light
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of day. And we know what they do to them
those prisons, They exactly sodomize people. So the fact that
they they know this is the currency that they run on.
It's this victim currency. And that's why regardless of what
Trump says, regardless of Trump talking about deals, regardless of
even the Iranians, who I've criticized in the past for,
you know, everyone knows the meme like, oh, they're gonna
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which flag are they're going to raise this time, you know,
like the joke about the impotent Iranian response, which I've
criticized them for on a political level in the past.
But at this point, we're going to see hundreds of
Israelis dead if these strikes do end up dying down
sometime in the next few weeks. That's that's all they need.
That is all they need. Look that they needed they
needed about nine hundred dead to do a full genocide
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of two million people in Gaza. A few hundred dead
that's more than enough to drag the United States into
a full on war with Iran.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So I think that I've been listening to Scott Ritter
and Colonel Douglas McGregor last couple days regarding this, and
they both are of the opinion that Israel is in
a terrible position. One they don't have enough missiles in
their you know, in their stockpiling to continue out this
war compared to Iran, and we just i mean, just
look at the last few days. The Iron Dome has
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not been that successful clearly, and from my understanding, Iran's
been using some of their weaker missiles to shoot and
get the Iron Dome to actually attack those, so then
it opens up for for you know, the good stuff
to actually reach their targets. And you know, like you said,
once mass casualties start occurring in Israel, we're gonna hear
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the APAC lobby, all the American politicians, you know, come
to their defense, and it doesn't matter what the will
of the American people is. I mean, that's where Donald Trump,
being this anti war president, he's going to end the
Ukraine Russia war. Well he began, you know, I was
really hopeful when he was talking about Zelensky being a dictator.
He's unelected, and then he doesn't about faced and one
(31:54):
week like one week after, Zelenski goes to the Oval
Office and they have that big blow up, and he
kicks him out to the White House and he says
all this stuff on truth Social and it's like, wow, okay,
maybe Trump gets it. And then he doesn't about face
and starts talking about Putin and it's like, what, dude,
what are you talking about? Like he he doesn't understand
the context. I do believe like other people criticizing him,
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it's like he just his opinion is whoever's the last
person to talk to him? And so apparently Tulci Gabber
is like the first person who is supposed to brief him.
But you know, we haven't seen Tulsi Gabbert in two weeks.
And last thing she said was that according to the
American intelligence, Iran is not building a nuclear weapon. Now
we haven't heard from her for two weeks, and and
you know, you think this is probably deliberate based on
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the Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, there's the line. Now, it's that the Iranians are
trying to assassinate Trump. Assassin we killed the guy that
were going to assassinate him. Go ahead, I do. Wasn't
want to interrupt you.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Oh you're fine, Like you're saying, there's a completing total
back and forth about who's trying to assassinate who. First
it was a rant on Trump, and now now it was, oh, well,
actually Israel is trying to kill off the Komanian and
they're you know, well Trump said not to do that,
and there's it's so much back and forth. You have,
you know, we have no idea which one and you
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know what's truth and where where that fits. And plus
you have you know, Israel has limitations on what they
what they can store, just by by scale. China has
been shipping and Russia has been backing all of what's
going on with Iran as well, just like Iran is
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backing them and Ukraine with all the drones. You know,
they have a huge military compact. There's there's a ton
of munitions and things coming from all three countries into
each other's war zones. And now we're we're watching what
that looks like. You know, yesterday I think you know
probably saw there's a a all the tankers, all the
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Strata fortress or whatever type of tankers that we sent
over to the Europe. Well, yes, there is a train
thing going on, but it's pretty convenient to have them
there already.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Right, No, And I think you're completely right. And the
sorry if you want to say something, Patrick, I mean
to interrupt, but the uh, the situation with assassinating the Ayatola,
obviously they say that's on the table, and if that
happens again, at a certain level, we have to wonder
is the are the Iranians is there? Is the regen
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actually going to collapse just because they killed the Israeli's
killed too many people? And then the question becomes what
are the Russians and the Chinese gonna do to help
support them? And a lot of the prophecies and I'm
not trying to get to ahead of the outline that
feel free put together, but we know that a lot
of the prophecies, and even we recently is the fact
this was fascinating to me a few days ago there
was that Russian leak that shows it behind the scenes,
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the Russians do not trust the Chinese. They basically treat
them like an enemy. As far as you know, the
Siberia and the borders that they share all the way
out there. And we know there are so many prophecies
about the Chinese turning on the Russians, or maybe they
turn on the Ma they don't, depending on the sort
of thing. And I have been saying this for a
long time on the show, and I've been well, but
if anyone in the Russian Foreign Ministry listens to my show,
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I'm begging you, don't betray the Iranians, because, first, for
so many reasons, because if you do, you're just allowing
your southern flank that you think you're if you're if
you're if. I've always said they're going to trade reproachment
with the West in Ukraine for you know, gaining land,
gaining these things in Ukraine, to betray Iran or China
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or one or the other or both. The problem is
that's again that's based on the faulty thinking that got
us the Minsk one and two agreements. That these are
reasonable people that are looking for anything short of the
complete dismantlement of Russia because they know that it will
act as a cataconic force against the coming Antichrist.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
And if the.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Russians betray Iran and allow Iran to become a monarchy,
a vassal monarchy of the West, and you know, be
just like another just like a bigger Azerbaijan basically Israel.
Then that's another massive southern base for the future Turkish
belt that will confront the Russians on the side, I
believe likely of the Zionists and of the West that
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will force Russia to come down into Syria through Georgia
and where they will be stopped at Mount Tabor. And
you know, if the Russians betray the Iranians and they
do all of this and then China takes Siberia, you know,
we're looking at a very small piece of Russia that's
going to be able to be preserved, as is prophesied
during the reign of the Antichrist. So again, the prophecies
do say that once the nuclear facilities are striked and
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Metropolitan Ivictos talks about this, that Russia and China will
be forced to respond. I think that's going to be
besides the US involvement. I think that's the other big
kind of domino and chain we're going to look at.
Here is what is that exactly going to look like?
And sure, I think there's a way where the Russians
can not overtly support them with too much military equipment,
but still not betray them diplomatically. But unfortunately we know
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that behind the scenes, the Russians have given the Israelis
basic guarantee is that they pretty much won't allow Iran
to you know, destroy Israel as it were. So how
that's going to work out regarding you know, the future
of the rest of World War three, I think that's
what we're gonna That's one of the things we're going
to learn, I think, in the next few months.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And that was what I was going to mention was
when I was following it right after the Israel attacks,
it sounded like Russia was kind of hands off and
wasn't going to get involved. And then after a couple
of days, from what I've heard, is that Russia is
now assisting Iran, using its intelligence agencies and essentially giving
intelligence to Iran on And as to your point, I
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mean Iran is the soft underbelly of Russia. I mean
it's a strategic ally based on the threats that Russia
is facing. And so one of the things that you're mentioning,
and I want to get the Escaton vigil to to
talk about is like the large grand picture regarding Orthodox
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eschatology in some of these events. Again, we're not making
definitive dates or anything, but the general outline freebody who's
watching who may not be familiar with some of the
details we've talked about. And Conrad has already mentioned about
the alliance between Russia, Iran China that you know most
of these military excursions are going to happen in the
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Levant and around Anatolia. Could you just provide a little
of a snapshot overview for everybody who's watching who just
wants to kind of see what it is that we
believe based on the prophecies and the long term spectrum here,
and of course this includes a golden age that America
is going to have some major catastrophes. And one of
the things that I was showing Jonathan before we came
(38:38):
on is, according to Elder from and some of the
things he said regarding water potentially rising all the way
up to Saint Anthony's monastery, we don't really know what
that means. I had Father Peter Heares on to talk
about some of that. He said, again, it's kind of esoteric.
We don't know exactly what that means, but they've talked
about major geological events catastrophes that America is. We're not
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going to have boots on the ground regarding Russian and
Chinese soldiers fighting Americans, but we're going to have massive
civil unrest. We're looking at the LA protests, We're seeing
how the country is divided on the status of legals
entering the country and what they can get from the government.
And I just saw what I was going to mention
regarding geological events, and we don't know what this means,
(39:24):
but it was on the cry on a CNN today
is that there's a mile wide volcano off the coast
of Oregon that they're expecting to blow any time now.
And they asked kan Vigil said he read an article
that maybe this isn't going to be as significant as
maybe some of the news is portraying it. But I
pulled up an article from three days ago and they
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claim that it's going to cause a thousand earthquakes in
a single day. And maybe it is serious, maybe it's not.
But we've speculated could it be the volcano and Yellowstone?
But according to some of the saints, America is going
to face a geological ev that's going to be disastrous,
and then internal strife and civil war. So the askaton
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vigil can you just kind of give a snapshot based
on everything you read in Conrad If you want to
add anything, feel free in regards to the larger perspective
here concerning a Great World War, a golden age for Orthodoxy,
and then the coming of the Antichrist. This is a
much larger timeline than people think. It's just boom boom boom,
and all of a sudden the Antichrist is going to
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reign in the world. Could you could you give people
who aren't aware a little bit perspective, of.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Course, and this is this is something that's very foreign
to the American mind, that things are not basically hovering
over us, or that we're not involved in all these
different steps and pieces, and you know, the American exceptionalism.
However exceptional a lot of this focuses on, you know,
(40:53):
the areas of historical Christianity, right, so some of the
first things, you know, any of the saints we're putting
out these prophecies that are kind of like guideposts and
kind of gets you into the timeline going as far
back as Saint John Chrysostom, who you know mentioned you know,
different things that would take place, and you know, well,
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when when shame disappears for women, when that, you know,
these are things that take place or that from this
archaic language that then we can look at today and
it's like, oh, okay, well these are these are more
of those guide posts. And you know, only fans is
a perfect example of that, completely disappearing from from from women.
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We have kind of this stage of preparatory signs and
then right now what we're seeing is just a regional conflict.
Right We're not really involved, it's not quite global. In fact,
we have two regional conflicts that are kind of right
next to each other. And then what what leads into
this next step, this escalation of real war kind of drumming,
(42:04):
is the involvement of NATO. You know, eventually NATO will
be dragged into something. Now, how America is involved in
that is kind of fascinating because we don't know exactly obviously,
but we do know that it is not popular in America.
We know that Trump has made you a bunch of
efforts to avoid any type of NATO either expansion or
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involving it, or even withdrawing funds and support for it.
But there's also within the prophecies, there's the idea that
perhaps America is not capable of participating in some way
because of these natural disasters or other disasters that take place,
whatever whatever they are, whether they begin as the civil
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strife that we've kind of had for the last four
or five years, or if it's it's some type of
massive disaster. I believe. You know, there are quotes saying no,
there won't be nuclear weapons used, but there will be
geologic effects that could affect a nuclear facility or something
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like that, so that you know, who knows what that
looks like, but we do know that America won't have
the capability of participating in this next phase whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Well, I mean, we just saw the military parade. I
mean that was a disaster, at least from my perspective.
I just caught a little bit of it. And the
soldiers they can't march in order. It just seemed like, really,
it's just it was so weird, like the lack of music,
the way that was presented, like tanks rolling across the
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screen and silence. The whole thing just felt very awkward.
It was very awkward.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
I only caught clips of it, and I have former
military and so I saw several military accounts posting videos,
several different groups attempting to march. It was. It was
pretty rough looking. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know
if that was just clipped, it was a second, you know,
a couple couple seconds of it, or if the entire
parade was like that then the day.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Once you reach like a certain threshold of women in
the military, like it just you can't take the whole
thing seriously, Like you see it's like a third of
the people or women. You're like, what are we even
doing here? Like what's it like? Like it's just all
any any illusion of grandeur that it once had sort
of sort of goes away. And you know, maybe you
have one little you know, like the Chinese of the
North Koreans, they get the one little female unit and
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they all look very nice and pretty in their uniforms
and they do like the really unified kicking and walking
and everything. And then we go back to the massive
missiles and you know, the people that if they step
one inch out of line, you beat them with a stick.
I mean, that's the kind of seriousness you want in
a military parade, but that's not what we get here
in America. But like you said, escton Vigilib, it's more
likely that the military is going to be either deployed
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to deal with natural disaster relief in the United States
or before in some kind of low grade domestic conflict
against who knows who. Right, Like I've always been, I've
always been skeptical on the desire of the American people
to actually rise up in a civil war. I think
people are too kind of dumb and apathetic for that.
But that doesn't mean that there won't be regional conflicts
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among different disparate factions.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Well, and that's the basis of the movie Civil War, right,
that was the base of the movie that came out
what was that two thousand and twenty twenty nineteen or
something like.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Twenty twenty two, I think, okay, which was then Obama's movie.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah, the Obama movie, which the whole premise was, you know,
the president at the time was like a Trump figure,
and that America was caught into a civil war, like
the National Guard of California, Texas and I forget another
state was at war with like the federal US military
and like you said, Conrad, the whole premise of the
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movie is that it's not like everybody is at war.
Like I think there's a scene where a girl is
in like South Carolina and she's like at the coffee shop,
you know, and she's working.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Everyone's basically acting like it doesn't exist. But then there's
snipers on the roof, so like it's real, like it's
affecting people, but it's like whatever. Yeah, that movie was
it was pretty effective propaganda, and that it did a
good job of not seeming super political. You think about
everything in it, and it is very political obviously, but
it tried to be. I think it was an attempt
at sort of manifesting wish casting these sorts of things,
(46:25):
because it wasn't just some obvious you know, most of
the stuff these days is just like anti white slop,
and it had those elements to it. Yeah, but that
wasn't like the main purpose. I think it was actually
trying to have some sort of political impact or some
sort of political predictive power, even if in a symbolic way.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Right, And in that movie, it was the it was
always white Christian men that were like the racists and
that were trying to defend the president, and they had
like their private militias, and there's a scene where they
have a like a stockpile of dead bodies that they're
getting ready to burn. So it wasn't the main focus
of the movie, but certainly it had the elements of
all the property.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Spoiler alert, it's a black woman that like brains the
president at the end. For everybody that wanted to see
the movie, but it's not that good, so sorry.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
But the Yeah, there there is some kind of you know,
I like that term wish casting for this balkanization or
you know whatever, creating all of the chaos and then
using that chaos to manipulate and create overarching you know,
structures of control, whether that's digital or whether that's you know,
how all that fits together. There there is some some
(47:34):
form of of that being you know, created and established
or you know the whole thing. Oh, they got to
tell us before they do it, all right?
Speaker 4 (47:44):
Yeah, so yeah, continuing on on the you know, we're
we're not we're not capable of us, you know, going
along this entirety of the of the Orthodox kind of and.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
What I want to and we can maybe do it
while we go through the itinerary is explain to people
who again wouldn't be aware of, like the geopolitical breakdown.
I mean Conrad already kind of mentioned what we believe
to be an alliance between China, Iran, and Russia essentially
against NATO or Western Europe, the US and Israel. I mean,
that's kind of how it how it divides. Could you
(48:18):
could you again just give the snapshot, like why is
this battle going to be around Anatolio? How does Israel
fit into this larger eschological picture and and even the
greater Israel project? And how does how is Russia involved
in this? And as Conrad was mentioning earlier about it
being given Constantinople being given back to the Greeks, could
(48:41):
you just aerial shot like what what is the framework
of our eschatology that's been handed down to us by
some of the contemporary modern day saints.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
So there's there's the the continuation of the third realm
being being Russia, Moscow bringing and this Gog Magog. All
of this kind of pieces together and builds basically a
NATO versus Russia at all, and that eventually this battle,
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this massive war battle takes place in Constantinople, and they're
the war itself several saints, and you mentioned that the
lasts several years, two years to be exact, but the
battles may be in sets of two or three days,
and maybe two times two or three days, and that
(49:37):
you know, Russia is going to sweep all of Turkey,
destroy everything, go all the way to Israel, and then
at that point the official bringing in of NATO or
however it intervenes, that is the official World War three. So,
like you know, like I was mentioning, we're talking about
(49:58):
regional conflicts at the moment, right and when Russia finally
responds to this, that is that's kind of the focus
where World War three begins. And then eventually they go
head back toward Russia outside of the you know, the
lands that they end up in in the Middle East,
and then that builds upon itself with China, you know,
(50:22):
backstabbing them from the from the back, taking lands there,
the Chinese army crossing the Euphrates, all of these things
kind of taken from a the Apocalypse of Saint John,
but applied with a geopolitical view of what's actually going on,
where the battle lines could actually be and then after
(50:43):
after that period, after that war, there's there's a time
of peace and and then then comes the more of
the endgame. But but what we're looking at directly right
now with without any doubt in my mind, is the
you know, the drum roll of War three. It is
everyone is setting up everything that they can to position
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themselves for this to take place. And then within that
you have all of AI and the digital construct that's
coming through, and and those things are only slightly you
know explained. I know several of the European countries are
now requiring this digital I D. These these things are
(51:26):
being rolled out.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Greece being the one in particular. As talking with Charles
Anas just the last members meeting we had, and he
was talking about how it's getting serious and that they
expect these things to be in place.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, and I think I read today something about the
UK and REQUIR requiring some new type of ID for
social medium and and that that will be rolled out.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
And you got to get a new license even here
in America, you got to get a real ID if
you're going to use your license to fly on a plane.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Now. Yeah, and so.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
When you're talking about AI and everything, you know, Palenteer.
UH the CEO, Alex Karp has been very celebratory about
Palentteer's involvement with Israel and what and how Palenteer has
a I guess, been, according to him in an interview
that I watched, been selecting and aiding in the targeting
of hamas So Gaza, the West Bank. And you know
(52:23):
that they're involved with the Iran strike, which means that
again the US and our intelligence agencies are intimately involved
in all this conflict.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
And they're heavily involved in Ukraine, heavily involved not only
the hardware, physical technologies that are being used, but also
the software they intellige in the.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Latest drone attack a week and a half ago Ukraine
had on Russia. I mean, like, how can this is
just shows the feebleness and the weakness of whether it
be Trump or just the way that our government is
operating right now. He acts like he didn't know, he
didn't know that Ukraine was, you know, going to have
this attack on Russia, And according to Zelenski and his regime,
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it was in the works for over a year. How
did the US not know about it?
Speaker 3 (53:08):
And then they're compare that Operation Spiders had in Ukraine
to the recent operation in Iran. It was pretty much the.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Same thing exactly, go ahead, yeah, and they exact.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
And when you realize that, you know, I've talked about
the whole new Heavenly Jerusalem thing on my show in
the past, with you know, the creation of a new Israel,
little Israel in the south of Ukraine and as a
backup plan for if it fails in the Levant and
all of these sorts of ideas. But as far as
like a Skaton Vigil said, the Third World War at
a certain level, if you listened to Metropolitan the Ofitos,
it was around a little after the beginning of the
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situation in Russia and Ukraine. He said, we're already in
the second year of the Third World War, right, which again,
and when you tie in some ideas, I mean someone
like Marshall McLuhan who said, you know, the Third World
War is a guerrilla information war with that no delineation
between civilian and military participation. Well that's been going on
for me forever at this for decades at this point.
But you tie that in with then when you take Syria, Ukraine,
(54:04):
all these things into consideration, then yes, it is also
a World War, because then, I mean, there's also all
sorts of really low grade conflicts around the world that
fundamentally all involve the US NATO system versus someone in
more of the Russia China sphere, whether it's what's going
on in the Balkans with Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia, all these places,
or what's going on in Taiwan obviously in the South Pacific,
(54:24):
even the war between the Popuins and the Indonesians Venezuela,
all these places, these things, it all comes.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Into Pakistan and India, right. So I saw today that
Pakistan warned Israel if they use nuclear weapons, that they
are going to use their nuclear weapons against Israel.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
In Pakistan, you know, they've been you know, the fact
that they have nuclear weapons is an interesting fact at all.
But India has They were allowed to get them because
the US understood that they'd pretty much be locked and
they had to equalize. The India Pakistan conflict in India
is one of the I mean, it's at least according
to their sold the Indian soldiers online, they're like the
only country that's like really to go to war for Israel.
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Every Muslim country obviously isn't down with Israel. At this point,
the majority of people in the West, you know, white
people have pretty much either are anti Israel or at
least disillusioned enough to not be interested in fighting a
war for them. It's just these Indians that still are
you know, it's these Hindus that hate Muslims, I guess
that are still super interested in, you know, seeing Pakistan
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and these other blazes destroyed. But I think ultimately I
would not be surprised if when the Russians are ultimately
forced to descend down into Syria to confront the Turks,
which again I'll be very surprised if Aredwan is near
is in power, or when any of that goes down.
Obviously I think he's going to I mean, I think
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best case scenario for a not peaceful situation for a
longer term, you know, time to prepare. If he actually
does make it all the way to twenty twenty eight
and then this goes down, that would probably be better.
But you know, I think, like the prophecies say, these
things are going to precipitate much more rapidly than we
can anticipate. And if that occurs eventually, the Russians, it
says that when they take Constantinople, there's going to be
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like a nine month period where then they're forced to
give it back to the Greeks. So this is going
to be if you've heard about these ideas that the
world is going to get formed in the eighteen countries,
all these sorts of things. And I think a question
that a lot of people have, and I'm sure you
guys have been asked about this as well, especially when
we get into the Saint John Vatats's prophecies as well,
is are we accidentally confusing things that will actually be
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the Antichrist, for you know, prophetic realities or these sorts
of things. And I think when we understand that, yes,
there maybe there will be a centralization of power that
will result in the spreading of the Gospel all around
the world and then in some capacity that could get
perverted at the time of the Antichrist. But Saint John
Maximovitch himself said that not until the Gospel is preached
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in an orthodox manner across the entire world will you
know the end times actually take place. So I think people,
as much as this stuff does have to do with
being a predecessor to the actual end times in the Antichrist.
They are very much two separate conversations as far as
you know World War three and this and then you
know the actual end of everything. I think that's the
biggest problem. You can have an entire conversation about World
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War three, the prophecies, even to the end of the
war without even talking about the Antichrist in theory.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
And that's the difference between the orthodox perspective on these
events and like Protestants I've seen I've seen some of
the more right wing Protestant people on X you know,
and they're putting together they don't have saints and you know,
the elders like we do, but they're kind of reinterpreting
all this stuff. And those who aren't Zionists, Christian Zionists,
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they are tying all this stuff up like the Antichrist
is going to emerge any minute. And that's and you
made an important point that I wanted to highlight, is
we we view that this great war and correct me
if you guys see it differently. It's the destruction of
the status quo that exists right now. You could call
it the post World War two consensus or whatnot. And
then after this is annihilated, in the hedgemony of the
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United States. It's they're going to be a total reordering
of global power. That's when we have a golden age
of orthodox and we don't know, you know, again we
don't have specific dates, but this is then as as
the system is re configuring itself, it is going to
become more centralized. And so what emerges after this and
there's going to be a golden period is essentially the
building of this centralized Antichrist Tower of Babbel structure. And
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so it's it comes much later in the timeline. This
is just the beginning and unfolding of events.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
And and after that that you know, period of war,
which is you know, unbelievable with you know, even even
what we saw with all of the wars combined that
have been fought in the past. This is something that
that is unfathomable. The the future has a you know,
ecumenical council to solve this faith portion and and that
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allows for this continuation, this blossoming. I mean, right now
we're participating in this, this flourishing of Orthodoxy. Just all
three of us converts, all three of us you know,
involved in this, talking about it, reading it, and and
from the Western mind looking okay, well, I'm you know,
trying to understand all of this, which is very new.
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It has a very different perspective. It's we're not looking
at you know, how much the US is participating in this.
We're looking at, well, look at all of the all
of the destruction and sin and things that have been
caused by the United States, which only really in the
last decade has been even looked at and addressed. And
through the propagation of conspiracy theories throughout the Internet and
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everything that took place after COVID gave people enough. You know,
everyone is seeking this truth and it's so difficult to discern.
And then you you through this, you're looking for this
framework of truth, even if you're not someone who is
you know, originally someone who is Christian or or you know,
spiritual but not religious, or however, you end up finding
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this this framework of truth. You see it and then
finally eventually experience it, and you know, then you realize
what that is, and you know how lost you were
without it. And then you can look to the saints.
You can see all of these guideposts that they know
established and then you think, oh my goodness, this is
this is unbelievable, but it is believable because this is
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this is how it works, right.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I want us to kind of walk through, and I
want to get your guys's opinions on the itinerary of
the faith. This is something that the Escaton Vigils put together.
And if you guys want your own copy of this
or be able to read it yourself, go to the
escatonvigil dot org become a member. All of this stuff
is available, and so this is talking about some of
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the events, and so stage zero, you want to you
want to kind of give an overviewton vigil as we
go through. I can read it if you guys want to,
but feel free if you just want to paraphrase or
kind of discuss the topics on each page.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Sure. So sometimes after after kind of compiling all all
these prophecies and continuing to compile, I started looking at
trying to figure out a timeline, not in some type
of you know, predicting the future or whatever nonsense, but
to look at it as a way to have relevance
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to what's going on in the news. To look at
it as a way of of understanding, you know, even
though we you know, as Orthodox, you have kind of
one foot in heaven one one foot in the world.
You know, you're you're living this this dichotomy of going
to church, participating in heaven on earth, and then going
back out into the world and hopefully bringing some of
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that with you. But also you you have to see
what's going on and to be able to look at
it from an orthodox fronma to understand the events that
are taking place. And and sometimes things are very specific
from the saints, just like when they're talking about your
own salvation and how you you know, even how you
should pray. Some are very specific, others are kind of
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more vague, and you know, some might say, oh, well,
use whatever prayer rule you'll actually pray. You know, some
might say, use this prayer. And that's kind of how
some of the prophecies fit together. And so you have
some saints who might say some more specifics and some
who might be more vague. And that's kind of the
win question. Everyone looks forward to the win question. Okay, well,
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when's is going to happen? Well that we don't know
that specifically, but we can tell you when when a
general idea and these specifically talk about the shame disappearing
from women, and then in nineteen forty the Elder the
Saint that reposted in nineteen forty six mentioned They'll come
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a time when men will become women and women will
become men. And at no point in history has that
ever happened. I mean, that is a thing that we have,
you know, that's just the last decade, really something that
will be looked at. And then you know, they go
on to mention other things like the warness and bull
and or Constantinople.
Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Right, and the Russians will win. It will go all
the way to the Euphrates river Agia, Sofia will open
and operate. And he was saying, wake up Russia and
draw your weapons.
Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Right. And and there's something else that's not understood from
the Western mind, especially for a lot of people who
are converts coming into this, to understand that the continuity
of the faith of Orthodoxy, of true Christianity, this was
continued through through Russia. And that's that is not something
that comes natural for an American to understand, because our
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entire lives have been told, you know, communism is bad.
Russia's communists, well, not not quite. They were for for
a small period and it's very interesting who who did that?
Who created that situation and and and destroyed the monarchies
all throughout Europe? And that's that's kind of what what where?
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This itinerary kind of begins it you know, starts in
the wind stage. It moves into things that the saints
and elders have have told us would take place, that
have already taken place. And these aren't things like leading
toward any type of schological end or in times, but
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just things that are coming you know, the pace you said,
the Turkyo blocklow of Euphraates, Well, they did that. They've
they've done that, in fact, several times at this point.
And that's one of those you know these notes uh
the road, Yeah, that's the next page. Yeah, yeah, as
as you're you know, going through there, and a lot
of this you've already talked about this. These are pieces
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from a you know, a document that is continually I'm
continually editing it and kind of adding pieces. But but
that the sixty five, which is what they're talking about
in that in that quote, was completed last year.
Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I want I want to.
Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Read these and feel free to comment, but just so
people who maybe can't see the screen, are just listening
to the podcast version in the future. Number one, these
are signs that our saints and elders have said to
keep our eyes out for, and we're just saying things
that they've prophesied that have already occurred. And this is
coming from sant Payisios. Is that Turkey will block the
flow of the euphrates. This happened in twenty eighteen, already occurred.
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UK will withdraw from the EU. This happened in February
first of twenty twenty. And then you talked about the
road to La Mia, the road connecting to Moco to
Lemea in the new E sixty five. This section is
now complete. It is a thirty nine minute drive. As
of April twenty twenty four, there's only the remaining forty
six kilometers section from Columbaca to the Ignatia Odos mot Motorway.
Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Yeah. So, and this is one of those things where
you'll have one saying or one elder mentioned something, and
then you'll have another one mentioned something totally completely different
but about the same area, and then you realize, oh, well,
this is how these are tied together. The reason why
this is so important is because this highway will be
where the not only the the Russian troops but also
the NATO troops will will use and then the NATO
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troops will destroy potentially to prevent Russians from from moving
on it. And that's you know, all of these full
signs and steps, they all kind of coincide, you know,
whereas you may have one talking here, I think this
was Father Paniotes and another was Elder Joseph talked about
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it the Via Nazia or however that all of that
kind of ties together based on you know, it's kind
of I look at it like you know, I have
I have one picture from one perspective, and now looking
at it through you know, various saints, you can have
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a much fuller, pick a bigger piece of how this
will look in the future.
Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Conrad, what are your thoughts on some of these?
Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Yeah, I've got a lot of thoughts, and I wanna
this ties perfectly in with some of the next specific
things that I think we're gonna have to look out
for regarding things that are gonna happen in Cyprus and
Greece and elsewhere. But with hopefully not trying to get
too broad here, but some of the things that escon
Vigil was touching on, I think are one of the
most important parts of why these could be important. And again,
if this thing isn't for you, I think I've always
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told people of this stresses people. If you struggle with
orthodox one oh one, just stick to Orthodoxy one o one.
You know what I'm saying. No one's gonna push this
in your face. However, ironically, I think the fact that
we even have to say that is a very American
Western phenomenon. And hear what I'm saying here is that
I gave a recent talk at a parish in Michigan,
Saint John cras Awsome Russian Orthodox Church. Shout out to
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Father James and the and the gang. They're great, great,
great fans Real World War, now patriots. They have a
big icon of Saint John vatat's their parish. It's wonderful stuff.
But they I gave my talk there and the theme
that I guess the takeaway word everyone was saying afterwards
with orthomaxing. But the title of the talk was becoming
a citizen of the Kingdom of God, and we mentioned
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this earlier a bit, but becoming Orthodox obviously it's an
entire worldview and entire veltin Shawn. But more than just
becoming an Orthodox convert in the West. This has to
do with East versus West, and you know, thick versus
thin cultures. But even thinking about sort of I think
of it even in the context of the Roman Empire,
which even at times when the Roman Empire was Christianized,
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to those people outside of the empire that were Christian,
you know, the empire felt a responsibility for them as well,
and so there was this sort of understanding that Christian
culture was to a certain extent, Roman culture. Rather the
Roman culture became completely Christian culture, and it was a
thick culture. And the culture as we see today, like
Greek culture, Russian culture, even in the West, Italian culture,
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more Mediterranean cultures, but even in certain capacities, certain aspects
of German culture and French culture, these are you know,
thicker culture, which basically means they have everything about them
is very all encompassing. They've got eschatologies, esthetics, all these
sorts of things. And I've talked about how you know,
back in the day you read, you know, legends and
myths and things, and there's always these wizard characters and
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these wizard elders that people seek wisdom from and prophecies.
And I've always said that, you know, not trying to
make it sound ridiculous, but what we're doing here is
sort of a return of the old world. I've always
said that, you know, what happened in nineteen eighteen with
the murder and martyrdom of Zar Nicholas and his family,
that was the final victory of you know them boys
and the Zionist entity and the people behind them over
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the Ashen regime, which was in whatever form it was,
in the legacy of the Constantinian Roman Empire, which reigned
not just from three point thirty until fourteen fifty three,
but in reality from three point thirty to nineteen seventeen
nineteen eighteen. And when you understand that, you understand that, sure,
even if at one point it might be dominated by
Russia or Greek culture, or you know, maybe at one
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time you could argue Serbian could or if you depending
on how you interpret you know, Roman Byzantine history, it
wasn't actually just oh this was Serbian national, this was
this There was a Christian culture that did transcend language,
even if it did look very similar at the times
where it was manifested and part of these prophecies, I
think for Americans, if you're truly trying to actually again
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not to say that you have to abandon your American identity,
but embrace your Christian identity and become, for lack of
a better word, a thickly and culturated person into the
culture of Christ and the Church, obviously you're going to
develop a fairly complex eschatology. The reason Americans are so
averse to these sorts of things is because our identity
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is sort of lack of identity at a certain level.
Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Like yeah, if.
Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Your identity is freedom, liberty, the fact that you know,
Americans are very transient. The average American moves like ten
times in their life. You know, this idea that when
religious freedom is the basis as opposed to the religion itself, one,
I would argue that's an idol, but two, it just
becomes the idea of freedom is going to very quickly
supersede any of the religious values themselves. And I think
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a big part of even what these prophecies themselves talk about,
ironically enough, not just believing in them will enculturate you
into this thicker, more real world that I think people
that reguarded in the Onshen regime, even in the West,
were more inculturated into the prophecies themselves about the return
of an emperor, the return of these kings. Even when
it comes to countries like Georgia and these smaller places,
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they will have their own kings in generals and leaders
underneath this ostensibly broader, more supernatural Orthodox emperor that in
and of itself is the return of this on Schen regime,
the return of thick culture, the return of what I
think people fear is the monopoly on violence and truth
sort of become the same again, like the idea that
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if you were willing to if the state is still
willing to take violence and even take somebody's life for
certain reasons, then one should connect that to the protection
and proliferation of the truth in all aspects of life,
which I think a lot of people that really bask
in cosmopolitanism and have really whether they've enriched themselves or
indulged their own sins because of how the world is
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set up that really terrifies them. And that's why we've
said before this ultimately does have to do with God
punishing the world for un lack of repentance from sin.
But I think as we discuss these things and people
challenge us, obviously, and people are going to say when
everything happens, there's going to be people saying, this didn't happen,
this didn't happen, this didn't happen. It's sort of again,
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people are besides the fact that we've discussed, they're missing the point.
We need to realize that this is just something that
if people weren't so deracinated and had such a lack
of just anything behind their identity, everybody would have sort
of opinions like this, like this is just very much
people brought into this new world idea that they can't
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any whiff of the old world. It's just it completely
is I don't even know, they just can't understand it.
Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Wellhy exactly the point that you're making. I've been using
the framework of Christos Giannios, the Greek philosopher, and he
refers to Orthodoxy as a pre modern worldview, and so
all these things that you're talking about, like the deracination
and the lack of identity, this is really what I
would argue as modernity. And that was Janiros's argument, is
that modernity and the Enlightenment project which America is founded upon,
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ultimately is going to fail, and that this is why
the postmodern left has arisen. Of course they're totally relativists,
but they recognize that the promise of modernity, which is secularism, science, rationalism,
and then democracy all leading towards utopia. These are the
five pillars of modernity that this is failing. It's clearly
the generation after generation the world's not getting better. And
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so when you mentioned like a return back to an
emperor in regards to some of these prophecies, this is
really a returned back to a pre modern worldview. And
a pre modern worldview is not limited by rationalism, and
so prophecies and wisdom and you know, miracles, mysticism, these
things are not part of modernity in the in the
modern mind. And most Americans are operating as total modernists,
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and they don't realize how limiting that is in regard
to their paradigm and their worldview. And so even somebody
that I brought this up, like Curtis Jarvin talking about
monarchy and now he's making the argument totally based on
the efficiency of corporations like Apple and Google. But the
idea that even somebody within the tech world is advocating
that really, if we want to have like a true
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functional government, we have to return to something more like
a monarchy. This is a realization that these democratic structures
that have emerged in modernity that you know, you have
no real agency, you know, And people want to say, well,
I'd rather be in a democracy because I can vote out,
you know, the corrupt powers that be, And it's like, really,
because I just looked at your ex and you just
talk about the deep state, so are you going to
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vote them out? And at least if you have a monarchy,
you know where the power is, you know where to
and people have overthrown their emperors multiple times in history.
So I think that's a terrible argument, the idea that
you're not going to be a free citizen unless you
live in a democratic structure or a democratic republic. Like
everybody wants to talk about how we're a republic not
a democracy, but the same point stands well. I feel
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like what's happening is a return back to a pre
modern worldview, and that's really the depth and the meaning
and the ability to participant Payton something that is beyond
the confines of rationality itself.
Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Well, and I completely agree, and furthermore, not to get
too schizophrenic off the rails here, but I have I
want to read from this unreleased text something from Elder
Agathangolos that I think is really relevant to this. That
has to do with something chro Pulton Neofitos told me
as well. And if you pay attention to sort of
identitarian discourse in America, which ironically enough, I think is
very relevant to this because it has to do with
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the growth of the It taps into all these phenomenon,
the growth of the Orthodox Church, the sort of different
European identities and how they rose and how they infected
all these sorts of things. And obviously you talk about modernity,
the rise of modernity coincided with the rise of you know,
Anglo supremacy as well, and the Anglo the British Empire
was sort of the vehicle of modernity. I've talked a
lot of about on my show that the Anglo Empire
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faced off against the as a thallisocracy faced off against
the land based you know, teleurocracies of Germany, Austria, Hungary, Russia.
And when you think about this philosophically. When I mentioned
those thin cultures, the thinnest cultures we have are these
Anglo countries, the UK itself, America, Canada, Australia, the New Zealand.
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Despite the fact that these countries are ascended literally the
most powerful, greatest countries in the world, when it comes
to culture, they're very thin. They have people are having
identity crises. That's why we're seeing, ironically, the growth of
Orthodoxy Islam in these places. And I think when you
look at, for example, I myself, despite being ethnically Anglo,
my name is Conrad Franz, that's my actual name. I'm
a German. You know. My ancestors on my dad's side
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he was adopted, are full on German immigrants to the
Republic of Texas. You know. Very so I'm kind of
copic both worlds here. But I think the Germans are
much more I mean, that's why the things that happened
in the twentieth century happened the way they did, because
the Germans are much more romantic. They have a much thicker, identitarian,
serious culture than perhaps the Anglos did after their because
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they got much more far afield, I think with their
religious developments and whatnot, especially with their colonization of the
new World. And you mentioned modernity and postmodernity, and again postmodernity. Obviously,
the people that were empowered in postmodernity were of a
certain tribe and brought it a very specific direction. But
postmodernity itself is obviously extremely necessary for us to get backnity.
Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
And that's why that's what if you read he has
a book called postmodern Metaphysics. The whole point is he's
articulating the problems with like the modernity, the problems with
Western philosophical thought. But his argument is that postmodernism should
actually be welcomed by orthodox because even though we totally
disregard their prescriptions, the description of the failure of modernity
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is the same for both of us. And he argues
that because Orthodoxy has the traditional metaphysics that undergird the
history of Christian civilization and has the valuing of mysticism
and subjective experience in relation to God, it's going to
be a superior option to postmodernism, and that we need
to really see postmodernism as the beginning point of the
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failure the turning of modernity, which we should then welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
And where did the best minds that really in the West,
especially that began. It's great that you mentioned this Greek
because I think Greeks and Germans share a lot in common.
If you read, you know, from Greek nationalists, the things
going on during the Greek occupation. You know, the Greeks
are actually very good to mount At. The Germans are
actually very good to Mount Athos. You know. I could
the whole tangent about that, I could go on elsewhere.
But the Germans, they they've started postmodernity in a lot
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of ways. I mean with Hegel and with you know,
a lot of these thinkers. There are many critiques you'd
have of these people, but Metch Baltovicto's himself, a lot
of these people have said that because these minds and
these thoughts were coming out of Germany, that Germany will
be one of the first Western countries to fully embrace Orthodoxy.
Metch Baltinoftils told me that himself, and I know where
he's getting it from is from this prophecy which has
very recently only been translated into English from elder A
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Iraneos Agathangelos, where he says, here, Germany, Germany, why are
you so proud? You will be divided into two. Obviously,
with that, we know that happened because this guy lived
in you know, twelve seventy nine, he says, and speaking
of Germany's last days, great is the corpse o God.
But wonder, oh son of Man, because truth and the
voracious worship of the Orthodox Faith shall rise even from
this heretical Germany, and through her, she, meaning Germany, shall
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most firmly and more than any other nation, vindicate the
apostolic truth, the Eastern Orthodox dogma shall again shine in her.
So I think everything that we're talking about here, you
could in many ways come to these conclusions from a
philosophical perspective, just the history of philosophy, the truths and
how they relate with religion and religious history. But we
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also have a monk from twelve seventy nine who basically
came to the same conclusions. And then we have, you know,
someone like Elder's Galactia, an old nun from Creed who
never went past secondary school saying these same sorts of things.
And then it's translated to me, a German American, through
someone like Metropolitan the Optos, who, if he hadn't decided
to make a YouTube channel while at one point during
the COVID lockdowns, I decided to look something up about Orthodoxy.
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We wouldn't be having this conversation, so I think to
deny that the Holy Spirit is clearly at work here,
I think is I think we're far, far, far past that.
Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Yeah, I totally agree. That's connot visually anything you want
to add to that before going to the next page.
Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
No, but I did send you a little link and
you have access to it Patrick through euro Okay, through
that think but that there there's so much in that,
the prophecies and blessed angelos, and there's a lot more
discussion about you know this, you know this, the schism
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on the end of the papacy, the destructure of Rome
and w War three. There's you know, there's in again
like like you mentioned, this is from the twelve hundreds,
just like in the I put it in a little
chat right here on this.
Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, I see, Sorry, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
If you wanted to share what he was he was showing,
I think he's talking about maybe like chapter seven or ten,
let's see Poland and and some of this.
Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
I just requested access.
Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Oh weird, you should have access to it, all right,
oh that's yeah, you should be good, okay, But that
to put that in perspective, this is a copy that
of this that I hope to make public soon. It's
it's only sixty two pages, but it's the complete total
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translation of it.
Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Then yeah, let me over to it real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
But just you know, while he's talking about that, if
I know, the book he's using has just portions of it,
and this is only a yeah, not not out there yet,
but I'm hoping to have it out soon. So there's
a there's a pretty large disclaimer on it because there
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are a lot of people who discussed the text and say,
well that may or may not be this, or may
or may not be this, but there there's a lot there,
and I believe what he's pulling from is is maybe
in chapter nine or ten, just if you want to
go in further deeper into that topic and subject, there's
(01:22:35):
a uh, you know, chapter chapter is where we get
into that the Catholic Church and the last Roman Emperor
and that kind of deal. And I think or was it,
uh you know, you were mentioned Russia and what happens
in World War three? I think is chapter eight of that.
(01:22:57):
But just just as a note just if you wanted
to dive a little deeper into any of this, if
Conrad wanted to see some of these pieces.
Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Absolutely, yeah, I requested access to the document, and yeah,
there's just so much. You know, I just have got
you know, Mitropolitan, if just told me I need to
learn Greek, and I, despite my the fact that I'm
really really not good at learning foreign languages, I'm going
to probably just have to knuckle down and just do it,
because look, at this point, I'm probably not going to
be able to read all the stuff in English about
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Orthodoxy and stuff I want to. But you know, I
would be doing myself a disservice to not be able
to have access to so much of this stuff, because
I mean, like Askston Vigil said, this is the first
time this is available in English. There's so much stuff
out there. Again, for us that talk to the people
that are sending us these documents stuff, there's just so much,
just an endless you know. Talking to Gregory here is
that's why we got him on to talk about the
Saint John Batatsas, the history and the prophecies, because he's
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reading so much stuff as someone who's been to my
ath those thirty plus times. He's got access to these
Athonite libraries, and it's just reading crazy old documents about
Saint John Batatsas and as someone who doesn't speak Greek,
inaccessible to me. So I'm gonna have to we have
to fix that.
Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Yeah, here's the quote you're reading.
Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Yeah, yeah, there's there's something fascinating about this, you know,
just a bit about the text it. You know, there
are two texts right now that I have that I
want to put out, and one this one is sixty
two pages. It's really not much. It would almost be
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better just to release it, you know, for free, because
the production costs is going to be, you know, however much,
and so people be paying for too much for this
tiny little book basically a pamphlet of sorts. So that
may be something that we we do here soon. But
it was heavily criticized. This text has been so heavily
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criticized from the Orthodox, but also you know, proposed by
the Orthodox. So it's interesting to see how how you
can kind of fit in these two places. And then
the other one is the the posthumous Revelations of Saint
hil Us. On that yeah, and and so you know
that text is over a thousand pages. And that's another
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one where it's like, well, this is a huge book,
so shot, you know, split some of these things and
make it available. How shout I make that available? You know,
obviously I'll make everything available on the website. But still
there's there's pieces to this, so if if you want
to go into more depth on on what what he
was mentioning or talking about, you can you can read
some of it there. And and kind of the.
Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Tomb of the tomb of saint of Saint Nilis I went,
I was able to go there of man Athos, it
was that was one of the highlights. It's I mean
it's the it's like the farthest end of man Athos
that you can physically get to. That's where the the
tomb is.
Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
And that's forgotten for you know, however many centuries. I
think it was for a century and a half it
was completely forgotten. And then you have this monk who
uh was a Theophanes was the monk who had a
vision of Saint Nils or Neilis and ended up going
finding it and you know, turning back into basically a
small chapel. And I think the stories in that kind
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of Arena. Of course, that text is heavily criticized from
the Athnitic community because it describes punishment being laid on
Mount Athos, and it describes, you know, some of the
things that are you know, were or are future taking place,
and I think it was in eighteen hundreds and they
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were being criticized for it, and so the ethnic community
didn't want that being released. Eventually a copy got to
the Russians and they eventually did you know, have a
copy of that floating out there. But that's one of
those other texts. It's it's amazing, it's a ton of resources.
It's got so much valuable insight. But there's there may
be some some you know, you have to put some
of this stuff out with a disclaimer. A great point.
Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
In regards to stage two of the escalation you have
here by Elder Theodoro's my children, you will drink your
coffee and hear that the Jews have struck the nuclear
program of Persia. Then the great events will begin and
at that same time or shortly before, Aragon will fall.
And so what are your guys' thoughts about Turkey and
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Erdogan next? Because Conrad, you mentioned people have already messaged
you and said, oh, you're you're full of bs because
Erragon is still in power.
Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
Yeah, And I addressed this right when I saw this
because obviously, I mean even was in May twenty seconds
specifically when it was announced that Erdwan, you know, definitively
was not seeking another was not gonna be running for reelection,
and somewhere whatever capacity, wouldn't be president anymore. I posted that.
I was like, all right, this is something. So again,
depending on how you interpret it, you could look at that.
But at the same time, I think some of the
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things that we're going to be seeing in theory rather
shortly if things go a certain way, is the Turks
are going to because again what happened in Syria with
the Turks was very sudden. So the Turks, they to
this day, they're very capable of these more sudden actions.
They're going to briefly move on Cyprus, They're going to
move on Crete, going to move on roads, some of
these islands that are closer to Turkey and what's going on.
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But then that will briefly they'll then have to be
forced out of those places. So even the Turks and
the troops in northern Cypress will be forced to retreat
because the Russians will come in at that point. And
I think the fact that Aerodowan, I mean again, look
Airdowan and Turkey, they've been desperately trying to get other
countries to recognize the Turkish Republic of Northern Cypress. The
fact that never occurred, even Azerbaijan, who said they were
going to do it, haven't officially done it. So I
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think it's clear that the TRNC is not going to
be a long lived institution, which I think that gives
credence to the fact that the Turks are going to
be pulling out at some point. And I wouldn't be
surprised if that pull out or something like that could
even be what precipitates air Doowan's fall, which could imagine
a nationalist revolt against Aerdowan from a more secular perspective
where people are angry and how he's been handling this
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throw again from a nationalist's perspective, that's how you get
a secular Camalist war against the Orthodox.
Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Well, explain why that's important, because we haven't even said
about how other elders and saints have mentioned about that
being the rise and Jonathan and I've talked privately about
you know, we were reading some of this stuff a
couple of years ago, and it seemed like Turkey had
a really friendly relationship with Russia. But as you browing
it out the events in Syria, as we saw that
they basically stabbed the Russians in the back and negotiated
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with Israel to go ahead and take parts of Syria.
Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
And even more so than that, what precipitated part of
a precipitate of the SMO is starting in you know,
twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, the Turks shifted the
balance of power and drone warfare in Ukraine. They were
supplying the Ukrainians with their Biractar drones that ultimately, until
the Russians got a consistent supply of Shahed loitering munitions
from Iran, they hadn't even they weren't even equal playing
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field with the Ukrainians for drones at the beginning of
the conflict. So the Turks again, the Russians pretend to
be friends with the Chinese. We discussed earlier, that's a
bit of a front. They seem to want to pretend
to be friends. I think there's certain I think a
certain fifth column within Russia is interested in being friends
with the Turks. But I think outside of that, real
Orthodox Christians in Russia understand that they're no ally. Especially
(01:30:01):
look Igor Strelkov igor Ghirkin, who unfortunately is in prison
in Russia for being too based. He has been criticizing
the Turks from the perspective of the prophecies, from the
perspective of Russia's weakening position in Syria since twenty fourteen,
and the fact that the Russians aren't listening to voices
like him, and are still listening to people like Lavrov
and people that are insisting that, you know, the Alzerbaijanis
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are their best friends despite being you know, little Turkey.
That's a big problem. But like you said, just to
make I realize, you know, I talk about this so
often I forget what I have and haven't said all
the time. Is the prophecies say that aer Dowan will
fall and he will be replaced by kmal Lists, which
are the secular Turkish nationalists once represented by Ada Turk,
you know, the people that actually perpetrated the Armenian and
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Greek genocides, right and when they return they will be
the ones that ultimately, I mean that makes the most
basic geopolitical sense as to how the Strait should be closed,
and the turch S would really turn on Russia because
even though air Dowan and the Turks I know friends
to Russia, air Dowan is a smart politician and knows
the importance of playing Russia against NATO and the West,
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but fundamentally they are in NATO country, so people need
to always remember that. But once Airwan goes, that game
is going to go away, and the Kamalists will fully
want to side with the West. And I think the
question is is will NATO either become effectively you know,
will its rules become effectively in unenforceable, or will NATO
collapse in and of itself, Because there's no like if
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Turkey is at war with Greece and Russia is at
war with Turkey and these things are happening, with maybe
the only exception being that Greece just stays completely neutral
and then NATO stays together. Otherwise, if that doesn't happen,
NATO is going to have to either reform or stop
existing in some capacity as well. So the air Dowan
escalation and the fall of Airdwan and the political transition
of Turkey. I think that's going to be what really
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is the beginning of what will actually be the political
and kind of the redrawing of the map. Even because
the other prophecies talk about how there will be a
Koordish state, there will began ex banded Armenian state, And
I think once Airdwan is out of power holding together
the Turkish state as it is right now with all
of their proxies in the region in that Turkish belt,
once that starts to get disrupted, we're going to finally
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see you know, post World War one, World War II
level of like map redrawing here, which at that point
you can't deny that it's a world war when that
starts going on.
Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
There's also, you know, something that's kind of maybe not
in everyone's mind or maybe not everyone who's into military
history can can tie these pieces together. But we deployed
nuclear weapons back in the nineteen fifties and then again
in like the nineteen seventies and all of this to
some of these areas, and that includes like you know,
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we we maintain you know, nuclear gravity bombs there there.
You know, throughout Europe, we we maintain all of these bombers.
You know that that was the whole purpose of getting
Turkey into NATO, is that we would have more of
a reach into you know, Russia and kind of a
base going up or base going down. And then then
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that kind of put us into a position where we are,
you know, there's a certain level of protection, so we are, okay,
well we're gonna put them into NATO. But now you know,
everyone's got a certain attitude towards that and and has
you know, kind of focusing on his own little empire.
But the Russians still look at that like, well, they're
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they're nuclear weapons there and they could be launched at anytime.
So if if that is this massive base, plus we
have the massive NATO base in in Bulgaria, and and
all of these pieces are right next to each other,
you know, from the to tie this together from a
Western mind, from an American mind, this would basically be
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like you know, Michigan and and you know the the
Lake and you know, say that's like the Black Sea
and basically all around the you know, Michigan or any
of the lakes, take your pick, there are you know,
strategic military beachheads at every point and Russia on one
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side saying, man, that's really too close, guys. And then
also the Americans saying, okay, well, how much can we
push this a little bit further? How many weapons can
we bring into the zone, how many pieces can go here?
And of course, you know, Turkey was always accepting of this.
They're like, oh, yes, and send us more. I think
they they but they're playing the both sides of the
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field by you know, I think they rejected the Patriot
missile systems and bought the Russian S four hundreds, but
they're not compatible with NATO's you know, air defense system.
And then also that's when the US was like, oh well,
why don't you have F thirty five's and F thirty
five program extended into into Turkey. And so there are
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all these little pieces that add up to a geopolitical military,
political and also you know, there's tons of money being
exchanged to do this. There's you know, all of the
money that they're having to spend basically on loan to
to support all of these munitions, all these types of
military hardware, and that that's an easy way to escalate,
(01:35:16):
you know, when I'm when I'm looking at it, Okay,
so say Turkey does have you know, it's dealing with Cyprus. Okay,
maybe it maybe it deals with with Greece. But the
reality is it's a massive threat and a massive kind
of playground for NATO and the United States against Russia.
So it does make plenty of sense for Russia to say, look,
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you can't, you're way too close with this stuff. And
and then so as the prophecy say that Turkey will
be completely decimated, well that makes perfect sense because you don't.
You're going to have to go through that quickly to
be able to get rid of all of the ordinance
and things that have built up over the last you
know whatever it is, uh, you know, thirty years.
Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Right in the f thirty fives, that's what Israel is
using right now in regard to their attacks on Iran.
And that's what's on the carrier ships of the US.
So we can already see again the military equipment that
Turkey and Israel in the US are going to be
using is all the same, tying again then deeper deeper
in regards to this larger conflict.
Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
So there's there's also you know, something to be said
about military hardware. I'm I am not an expert in
the aircraft side, but it's my understanding the F thirty
fives aren't capable of you know, certain types of ordinates
like nuclear and whatever else, but the F sixteens are,
and I believe recently Finland acquired F sixteens and so
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there's you know, there's a prophecy that says, well, they'll
be you know, newt and that's a perfect example of
wine because there are nuclear capable aircraft munitions, and if
we have F sixteens in the region, it only you know,
makes sense that we would also have whatever mass org
that's that we could use with those you know, weapons
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systems and the same I know, we have F sixteens
in Italy. I think at some point we had planned
on putting F sixteens in Turkey, but there was again,
you know, this this riff with Russia. Oh well, hey
you can, you can come as far, but you do
that thirty five as well. Don't bring something that's nuclear capable.
And this is where we get into this whole idea
of nuclear war, nuclear holocaust, nuclear, you know, whatever term
(01:37:25):
you want to use. It's it's a very you know,
we're getting to something that's incredibly dangerous and should be
you know, never even considered. But of course, you know,
Pakistan and India are fighting and they're threatening, and then
you have Israel threatening and of course they're bombing nuclear facilities.
So there is this this next step of warfare includes
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you know, NBC nuclear biological chemical and it's going to
involve something that we haven't had in our yet in
this kind of scale.
Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
Right and Professor John Meerscheimer I was watching an interview
of him recently after the attack Israel an Iran, and
he made a point that he thinks that Putin may
use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, and he doesn't think that
the US could stop it or would respond with nuclear
weapons themselves, but this might be the beginning of actually
the use of nuclear weapons due to Ukraine's insistence of
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not stopping this battle again the drone attacks a week
and a half ago. So like you're saying with the
F sixteens, I mean, all of it is, we're right
on the precipice of all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
No, and I think the when it comes to the
biological other warfare aspects of it. Metropolitan yoviytos himself on
his timeline when he discusses this, he seems to start
the World War three thing at COVID like he actually
seems to yes start that as the actual beginning of it.
And for those that don't know, he said the week
before any the week when the only people that he
were even remotely taking this seriously were right wingers who
(01:38:56):
are like using it as sort of a sort of
a xenophobic joke against Asian people, which you know, no
judgment here, it's whatever, those are the only people talking about.
Metropolitan Jofkos was like, this is going to be the
last normal week of the world, and you're going to
see and then what happened next week? Global lockdowns at all.
No one was laughing at that point. No one thought
this was going to be just another you know, news
cycle joke that we have. But you mentioned the nuclear situation.
(01:39:19):
I of course have my opinions on the whole nuclear situation,
mutually assured destruction, the science behind all of it. But
we have prophecies that talk about how there will miraculously
be like no fallout damage in a lot of these areas.
We have prophecies about how if you just do the
Sign of the Cross over your food, things will be Okay,
so I think again, even within these prophecies, the idea
that the idea of nuclear winter and nuclear holocaust is
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sort of exaggerated for geopolitical effect, because think about it
right now, put aside all the philosophy and prophecy, you
think about the purely geopolitically. The reason that the Iranians
are being given the quote unquote Libya treatment is because
if they achieved, if they even remain as a quote
unquote nuclear capable threshold state, then they are the regime,
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which is an anti Israeli Islamic revolutionary regime, is protected
from most forms of regime change in large scale invasion
and revolution. And when you understand that Israel is the
one that's enforcing this perspective worldwide. In America, realized that
the mutually assued destruction nuclear structure doctrine is entirely just
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about maintaining the post war consensus.
Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
And that's that's what John Mehersheimer's argument was. Yeah, is
that he was saying that he doesn't think it's impossible
that Russia would use nukes, and he's saying no, because
that was I think it was on Pierce Morgan. Actually
it was the Pierce Morgan interview like a couple of
days ago, and Pierce Morgan saying, oh my gosh, if
they use nukes, then you know, us, the UK, and America,
we're going to use them on Russia. And He's like, no, no,
(01:40:50):
that's not how it's going to happen. And he was
arguing that everybody that he talks to that's knowledgeable of
the situation believes the same thing he does, and does
not believe that the US is going to use nuclear
weapons if if Russia happened to use some in Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
Well, think about this from the perspective of somebody who's
a bit skeptical of the you know, the narrative you
believe after you watch a movie like Oppenheimer. Let's say
that nukes are something that you could actually use in
a more mainstream capacity without quote unquote, you know, literally
exalting the entire Earth. Perhaps opens the idea that, oh,
they're even more effective capabilities for non nuclear, massive mega
tonnage bombs. Well, then the mutually assured destruction narrative that's
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upheld the new World order that's been so beneficial to
the United States and Israel is completely non existent anymore,
Like it's it just goes away if the sort of
kind of fear narrative that's been built up is shattered.
I actually think that what we're seeing that's going to
happen in Constantinople in these prophecies, I think is very
much evidence of that.
Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
You know, that's interesting because I saw a meme recently
that showed like Nagasaki Hiroshima, and it showed you know, Nagasaki,
you know, being bombed and then it you know, fifty
years later or what it looks like iving city, Yeah exactly,
and you have people living there and there's this you
know idea, and then you look at some places in
America even that that look like complete devastations taking place.
(01:42:08):
You know, that's economic and very different. But it is
you know, that goes to what you were saying, perhaps
the narrative around what happens or or you know, is
there a way to do that without the level of
fallout and things that you might see and like obviously
like Chernobyl and you know these other places that are
no go zones.
Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
So next page it talks about again the naval blockade
regarding the Turkish navy blocking prevents Greece from moving towards Cyprus,
prevent the union of the ee A of Greece and Cyprus,
create fear and cause Greek residents to flee to the mainland,
and to hurt the main tourism and economic artery. This
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attack will last three days. So that was the kind
of the last little section there on page two regarding
and what we're doing guys, that we're just showing you
signs to keep your eyes open towards these things. Now
they have not occurred, but as we move through here,
like stage three, NATO and Russian involvement, these are things that,
as Conrad was saying, we're not no stradamis here. The
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saints and the elders have given us signs and we
just are watching and anticipating and just looking to see
how these things unfold. So Stage three here NATO and
Russian involvement. American France will assist Greece with an aircraft
carrier and fighter squadrons. Russia will also respond without declaring
more Greek and French submarines will sink Turkish ships. This
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will lead to an upheaval in Turkey. This failure will
be considered the sole responsibility of Aragon. Aragon will be
overthrown within hours by the Kimmels, who will take over
the government. They will begin conscription, declare war and invade
the two Greek islands. Cyprus will be liberated without war.
And then the quote is Metropolitan Neofidos of Morfu, and
it reads, nothing serious will happen as long as this
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Arogon lives. Know this, serious things will have happened when
Arragon falls. This is what the modern saints we see
tell us. Because the poor man will fall, he will
be humiliated when he falls. Take this as a sign,
and a great blessing will come. And Hatsflorenzos Conrad, you
(01:44:17):
were Escaton vigill have to read that and prophesized. Before
nineteen sixty seven, all of Cyprus will be freed. We
may have some events during the three days, but it
will not be a war like nineteen seventy four. The
other great good will be which will definitively solve the
problem of Cyprus is that many Turks will be baptized,
both in Turkey and in Cyprus. And of course we
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believe that only a third of the Turks. They will flee,
a third will convert, and a third will die. In
this war.
Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
So yeah, I mean that ties in with the again
getting to the Saint John Vatatsa's prophecies. You know, there
are many, according to tradition, you know, crypto Turkish Christians.
That's a large amount. I think that third of the
population that will become Orthodox. You hear, you know, you
get into debates and conversations about Turkish ethnography and you know,
people doing DNA tests and that. You know, many Greeks
(01:45:12):
who have been reading these prophecies for years, they have
developed a sort of quasi pro a very weird love
hate relationship with Erdowan because they're like, oh, he's actually
an ethnic Greek and he knows that, and that's why
he's acting as this I mean, reading these prophecies that
nothing bad is gonna happen till Erdwon dies. He's acting
as this sort of pseudo cataconic figure, as it were,
because he's kind of you know, when he goes, that's
(01:45:33):
when the floodgates are kind of going to get opened up.
And you know, we hear the stories you know from
the bishop that ordained Elder Afrem, for example, that knew
Saint Joseph hes A cast about who himself claims you
have seen the Marble Emperor with his own eyes, Greek generals,
Greek journalists, people that have been taken by these Turkish
crypto Christians into these this unsecret underground that seems to
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also be sort of mystically protected area that where you
see this you know, holy Emperor that if you look
behind the escaton vigil's head, you see an icon of
him right up there. And the fact that you know
this goes back to the conversation I had earlier about
like thick cultures and orthomaxing. I made the point it
was my sort of my definant one of my you know,
(01:46:18):
rehearsed you know, big moments in the talk that I
gave where it's like, look, if you believe that Jesus,
like if you believe Jesus Christ rose from you know,
if you believe a emperor is underneath the city of
Constantinople ready to come back, then you can maybe take
your prayer rule to take these other things very seriously.
And then when you think about that principle, well, if
you believe that Jesus Christ rose from the dead, then
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this needs to be the most important thing. This needs
to be everything. And I think that is the most
important thing, and that's you know, I know people that
have researched these things as well, and I think that's
the most positive thing that can come from, you know,
those that are able to handle these things getting interested
in them, because I think God wouldn't have allowed so
many saints to be in unison about these things if
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it wasn't for you know, for the salvation of people's
souls and the evantagel and the you know, the spreading
of the Gospel to be preached to all four corners
of the earth, which we know is going to need
to happen before the Second Coming itself.
Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
So you know, we live in that postmodern uh section
that you're talking about earlier, and that's where these people
are have been convinced that everything is understood with logic
and understood with with this mindset of science and things,
and and perhaps in its own way that when some
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of these people they are able to see these science
they see it happen, and then it happens that gives
them a perspective or it may you know, if that's
a way of you know, proselytizing, you know, something that
doesn't really exist in this this Eastern view, but something
that is known in the Western view that gives that
gives them the amount of reasoning, or maybe it challenges
(01:47:56):
that original belief that well, maybe not everything is explained
by the science, and maybe maybe there are these things
that you know, they may at one time called metaphysics,
and eventually, you know, come into an understanding of you know,
how this is tied into the faith. You know, it's
like it takes this this step in your mind because
it is a massive jump for.
Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
When it gets to the it gets to the most
fundamental disputes I think among people and truth and philosophy
and everything even beyond postmodernity and modernity in these things.
I mean, it gets to like one in the many.
I mean, people can't accept that something this particular about
some of these prophesied things and even some of the
teachings of Orthodoxy. They can't accept that something that to
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them seems so inculturated and thick and you know, localized
to maybe a certain part of the world right now,
could actually be universal, could actually be applicable to everybody,
that the one and the many are completely you know,
reconcilable with one another, that the created and the uncreated
the visible and the invisible. That's what Jesus Christ, you know,
for example, manifest and the idea, for example, that something
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could actually come back as you know, a literal you know,
something like the sleeper Saints of ephesis or a king
could literally come and rule like these aren't just because
again it's not scientifically true, it's unlikely, it's not logical. Eventually,
if we believe in the resurrection, like you said, the
thickness of the culture, the thickness of the truth of
Christianity is going to come back into the fold. You know.
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Even from a political perspective, people are saying, you know,
the end of history is you know over as it were,
History is back. You know, these sorts of things are happening.
And if that was the first time that it ever
truly ended, then it's no wonder that people are considering
sort of it as a prefigurement to sort of the
end of days as it were, which again I'm not
saying that that is immediately around the corner, but clearly
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these prophesied things are are what is happening. And the
fact that so many of these of these issues that
touch on philosophy, religion, I think even science, like we
said earlier, some of the nuclear stuff being involved in
the deception. Metropolitano Pfhto talks about this in his book,
the recently published book if We're not well, if we're
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not crucified, we will not be resurrected, we will not
be glorified. He doesn't get very specific, but he talks
about us certain advances, even in cosmology and physics and
quantum will come to vindicate the truths of creation in
the Orthodox Faith. And as someone who you know, I've
talked to monastics people, you know there is a you know,
many of these people are very skeptical, if you know,
the mainstream cosmological model and these sorts of things. And
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I'm not going to go off on a whole tangent
on that, but I mean, look at Elon Musk just today,
he's posting a picture of his rocket catch, which I'm
not even sure if is real, and it's you know,
no kings, no God. You know, it's a fallout, not
a fallout, a BioShock infinite quote, but it's you know,
no kings, no gods, just man or whatever it is, like,
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only man, and you know he's shooting a penis shaped
rocket up at the firmament, you know, saying these sorts
of things, and I think when we come to the
conclusion people are talking about, you follow someone like Ashton
Forbes on XP people are talking about the zero point
energy ether theories, you know, the proliferation of light through
something like a luminiferous ether. This has almost been completely
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proven to exist at this point, and it's just the
mainstream is regretting it. And I think when some of
these things that we're talking about geopolitically and prophetically occur,
if the wars occur, we're going to see some new weapon,
we might actually see some of this hidden technology, which
could then challenge some of the presuppositions we have about
gravity science space which I've always positive, the cosmology, the
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gravitational model, which ties very much into the nuclear physics.
And the question is one of the foundational undergirdings of
our modern secular society that allows people to fall back
on atheism and agnosticism because well, maybe you make a
good argument about the reality of truth and morals when
you're arguing with an atheist, But at the end of
the day, I know space is infinite, and I have
a good argument for how it came out of nothing.
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So I don't really have to believe what you say.
That's just your moral argument. Well, I think that's stupid,
but millions and millions of people believe that because it's
basically what you're taught in school, right, So I think
even from that perspective, even and I'm not going to
go off most people in the chat, you know, you
you randomly bring up these things, and people like what,
you're a blank earther or whatever it is. You know,
don't don't label me bro. I'm just skeptical of the
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mainstream cosmology. And I think even at this point, with
the reckoning that we're about to experience, the epistemological overturn
that the world is about to experience, why wouldn't it
include a reshuffle on our cosmological understanding?
Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
Yeah, you mentioned you mentioned, you know that that reshoveling,
but you mentioned the Akathists or you mentioned the Seven
Holy use of emphasis, and you know, I'm a member
of both of y'all's different groups, and so I have
these you know, separate, uh, but linked discussions. And in
the discord on the War Now discord a while back,
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someone mentioned, hey, is there a can anyone find the
Agathist to the seven Holy Youse? Because Lesson Pelagia mentioned
that that should be prayed during these terrible times, and
so immediately, you know, went on the hunt and found
it and did a complete translation of it, and it
is available on our website. There's a there's a link down,
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you know, after the publications where you can put in
your email and download that that Actus and I sent that,
I think into the discord. I don't know. This is
several months ago at this point, but that was something
that you know, as we're talking about a lot of this,
there's a lot of there's some big humps, big big
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gaps in theology and big jumps that people are making
as converts, and this is one of those where it's like,
how does any of this make sense? This doesn't make
any physical sense? How can I reason with it? Well,
you can't use reason. So that's one of the things.
And if someone's interested in that, it's available there as well.
Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Yeah, and the link to the Askatan vigil is in
the video description along with the link to the War
Now Guys YouTube channel. So if you guys do go
support our brothers, go sign up with the Eskaton vigil.
Make sure you subscribe to worldward Now YouTube channel and
their substack. I don't have the substack link, but I'll
try to go on the hunt here in just a
second and put that in the video description here.
Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
I can drop it in the private chat here for you.
Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Okay, yeah, I do that, and then I'll add it
in the video description.
Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
Yeah, that's our our home base the substack.
Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
So regarding the NATO and Russian involvement, the next section
is the Russian response and it says regime change in
Turkey such as the Kamalists is pro NATO and pro
American and therefore anti Russian. After declaring war with Greece,
the new proto or pro American Turkey will close the
boss for a straight to all Russian ships. NATO will
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deploy armed forces in the Black Sea. This will anger Russia.
Russia will invade Turkey on two fronts from the Black
Sea and the land through Georgia. Turkey will be completely decimated.
In addition to NATO closing the bosp for A Straits
in the Turkish invasion of the Aegean Islands, which would
mean a complete naval blockade of Russia. Another reason for
Russia's involvement is the possible assassination of the ecumenical patriarch Bartholomew.
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Greece will declare war against Turkey for the direct invasion
of the two Greek islands by the Kamalists. This will
become a justification for claiming Constantinople and the Boss for
a straight post war. The Russians will declare protection of
the Christian populations and the Finar and the Russian army
will march toward Constantinople and catch up with the Greek army,
which will be preparing to cross the Evros to advance
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towards Hagia, Sofia. Russia will take Constantinople.
Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
Yeah, that's that's a huge like you know, as we're
talking about these little guide posts in the terms of
this longer timeline, that's a huge one. That's that's like
the big, the big, the big element in a lot
of the prophecies, especially you know St. Piicios had a
lot of discussion about.
Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
This and sat Gabriel the fool for Christ of Georgia,
who I actually did in a stream covered his life.
He says, ah, Georgia, my country, You will melt like
a torch from the Russians, but then you'll be glorified
after the ruins they will cause. When ask why Georgia
will melt like a candle, here replied, this is where
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the Russian troops for Turkey will pass, which again connects
back with the page one and regarding the E sixty
five Highway.
Speaker 3 (01:56:21):
Which, ironically enough, these Elder Gabriel ones are some of
the ones that you need the most context to interpret properly,
because he also talks about Georgia not being destroyed in
the midst of all of this. So I've always interpreted
this prophecy specifically, is there's a good chance that the
War of two thousand and eight and the other things
that Georgia experienced from Russia, that part has actually already occurred.
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And because especially now that Georgia has politically shifted back
into the Russian sphere of influence, largely the fact that
they would be able to the fact that he then
mentions the Turkish thing could mean that Russia's already secured
Georgia as a place of safe passage to then reach
Turkey in Syria, which that's a I think that's a
little bit of a white pill, because we don't want
Orthodox countries destroying other Orthodox countries. And I've always, I've always,
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and I would love to hear your thoughts on this
Escaton vigil. We know that Saint Gabriel says that about Georgia,
we know many Greek saints say that about certain parts
of Greece, and we very much know that Saint Seraphim
of serav talks about Russia the land past the Divievo Trench,
you know, being protected during the times of Antichrist. I've
always said that, you know, this is one of those
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things where you know, flowery language was like, this will
be the only place that's safe. That's you know. I
think that's the people there locally trying to make sure
that their local people know where to be. But I'd
love to hear your thoughts on which of you know,
how these things kind of coincide, and how they could
all kind of simultaneously.
Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
Be true, you know, And this is where you get
into what what does repentance do for a nation? What
what does repentance do for a country, an area, you know,
a place the people themselves do? Can it can it
be both ways? Can Can there be a possibility that
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something's gonna happen. Of course, we have no idea how
this is going to take place. We also don't know
necessarily how the the Saints looked at these things, because
a lot of the times they don't give good context.
A lot of times they'll, you know, either have these
visions and they'll kind of mention this. One of the
best ones is about is it Elder Ephraim who set
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up there'll be water here? Yeah, no context, and so
like what hold hold on, wait, what there's gonna be
water right here? Okay, you know, and and that's where
you where you get into. Okay, did they see what
is a possibility? Absolutely? Did they see exactly what's going
to happen? Maybe? You know? And and so there is context.
I know. I do have quite a bit from Saint
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Gabriel in terms of other quotes and things like that.
I have another several several things that that may be
of interest, one of them being the battle of the
Holy Prophets Enoch and Elijah with the Antichrist. When we've
broadcast on television and due to sins there will be earthquakes.
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First Russian tanks will enter Georgia to awaken people for
the loss of Georgian territory. Everyone will be punished, including Russia.
In the end over to Bilisi, two gray birds will circle.
Do not go to rust of Belly Avenue. It will
happen there so and and they also mentioned several times
I've got maybe four different saints who mentioned that Antichrist
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has already been born, and and and even one saint
who said exactly where he was born in in the
territory of Russia, which in uh Novegron. You know, so
there are there's kind of this weird space of what
do we what do we understand, what do we put
into context? And and then you know, there's these things
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have discernment that we can't really fathom, and and so
they they may have a completely differ friend understanding. He
also said that uh Kutaisi will will suffer less than Tblisi.
Don't worry, God's everywhere. Cleanse your heart and pray the
Savior will protect you. He mentions, you know several other
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you know, crises and things around the Antichrist. But he
also mentioned which I think is interesting, and this goes
back to even the Pushumist revelations of Saint Nilas discussing
about the Ivory and icon and and when the Ivory
and Icon leaves Mount Athos. Uh, the Saint Gabriel mentioned,
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when the icon of the Ivory Mother Will of God
leaves Mount Athos, the bells will ring and the domes
of the Church of will bow to the Queen of
Heaven and Earth, and all will appear on television. This
will be God's mercy for the world to see.
Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
And interesting Saint Gabriel talked about that because the Ivorn
Monastery used to be Georgian before it was taken over
by the Greeks.
Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
Right and and there, and there are several others that
we you know, talked about who have also mentioned, you know,
when when the icon leaves. And I think maybe that
which is when the icon leaves. There's just that that
is a one of those little guideposts that says what
may take place.
Speaker 3 (02:01:15):
I don't want to interrupt anybody for any breaking news updates,
but this is pretty relevant stuff. Trump people said this
was a few minutes ago, and I didn't say it,
but Trump said Iran should have signed the deal. I
told them to sign. What a shame and waste of
human life. Iran simply stated Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
I said it over and over again. Everyone should immediately
evacuate Tehran. And now dozens of US warplanes around the
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way to the Middle East, and Trump is refusing to
sign a G seven statement calling for calm between right,
and he was the only one.
Speaker 2 (02:01:43):
He was the only one at the G seven I
saw that earlier today. The other six parties wanted to
de escalate the Israel Iran situation and Trump refused, which
again just highlights everything we said at the beginning of
the stream and regarding just a total failure of leadership.
It and it's it's I mean, what he's doing is
really just a pr stunt and has nothing to do
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with him actually having control over this situation.
Speaker 3 (02:02:07):
Yeah, and everything that I'm seeing right now indicates that
within the next hour, a few minutes, we could be
seeing US air strikes on Tehran. So you may have
heard it here first, folks.
Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
Wow, Stage four the global catastrophes in US downfall.
Speaker 3 (02:02:23):
M hm, this is on a stream talking about this
is all this is happening. I feel this is very.
Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
The revolution is being televised or you know, uh this
uh yeah, Stage four, this is this is now again
this is a part of a timeline that I created
last year and have compiled that and later in this
document you'll you can you can see where all of
this ties in pretty strongly with with prophecies specifically from
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Elder Joseph and oft Opendi and uh Saint Epanasius or so.
But but this is this is going along what I've
been able to as symbol and kind of characterize as
nothing short of of unbelievable, especially for those of us
who live here. And there are there are ties not
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not just biblical, but but also prophetical that mentioned you know,
go to the monasteries, flee to the mountains, you know,
be to then be in the monasteries in the mountains
be and and so you know, I have one of
the members of our Escaton Vitel group, he's in California,
actually him as priest and and some other people, and
they have plans basically at a certain elevation, whatever the
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elevation is as the monastery of Saint Anthony's, to to
be able to get to that location and have resources
and things like that should should such a thing take place.
But without going into detail, and some of this, I
think you've probably discussed on on other podcasts as well. Basically,
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America goes through some enormous level of disaster, including the
civil strife, earthquakes or or or destruction in every form
and fashion, and and and and if you look at
this from the Eastern perspective, from the perspective of the church,
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this is due to the sins and and we have
you know, Sodom on one side and Gomora on the other,
and of our nation and and those two are now
going to face this this level of.
Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
Do yeah, I want to read just a little bit
of this document here, at least at least this section,
and if there's something more or Eskaton vigil, I can,
I can, I can read that, but uh, it kind
of highlights everything that we are already and talking about.
And so it says around four hundred miles east of
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the San Andreas faulton California stands the famous Monastery of
Saint Anthony in Arizona. It was built as a bastion
of Orthodoxy and protection of the pious in America, the
sanctified Elder from himself. Thanks to his monastery in the
Tomb of the Elder, this disaster will not be allowed
to go any further at this point. It will not
be a simple seismic disaster, but there is a concern
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that whole cities will sink into the Pacific and the
Gulf of California. This will be a huge biblical disaster
that will stop the power of the USA. That was
again referring back to any potential calamity, geological calamity, and
I said again, whether this volcano that CNN and some
of these news you guys can put up, just put
in mile wide volcano Pacific coast and you'll see articles
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pop up over the last month about it, you.
Speaker 1 (02:05:52):
Know, something to point out you in gathering some of
this information, I try to read as much of of
contacts and read as much as I can and listen
to even you know, as much video footage for people
discussing this. Elder Ephraim was heavily criticized for going to America,
heavily criticized and and basically said, look, these are the
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people under under the thumb of of of them boys,
and they, uh, you know, they're going to get what's
coming to them. And you know that we've we've caused
all the strike, all this destruction, and that is you know,
part of you know, our lack of repentance that this
will happen. And of course the elder saw things very differently,
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and and he he had a you know, a you know,
the Holy Spirit gave gave him this understanding of well,
perhaps you know, there there will always be people who
need to be saved. And and you know, took that
that idea, of course, established don't believe, nineteen monasteries in
America and created these these places that America posts this destruction.
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Will we'll be able to have you know, this resurgence
of Orthodoxy or new surgeons of Orthodoxy as it is
here in America. Uh that that's something that shouldn't be
understated because a lot of these elders came under massive
criticism for saying these things. And you know, all of
them basically have come under some type of criticism from
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their contemporaries when they would when they would say this,
and a lot of this gets published posthumously because of that.
You know, even even Metropolitan Theophanus mentioned basically he wasn't
supposed to talk about this until he was you know,
a certain age, and that you know, people just can't
understand they're gonna they're thinking about this in their own terms.
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Everyone doesn't have the full breadth of you know, conviction,
because they can't see it, like they can't possibly fathom
what what this would look like. And obviously from he
knew that something had to take place, so he came
in and provided us with tons of information about it.
Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
And just like the fall of the Western Roman Empire,
it was monasteries that preserve civilization, you know, manuscripts, reading, education,
And that's exactly what Elder from why he built his
monasteries and what he expects to occur after again some
of these major calamities. I want to read Metropolitan neophotosis
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of Morphus quote again regarding the American situation. They told
me that two months ago I was working with someone
who prophesied now I don't want to say his name,
and he said the following America will become a mara
part and it's beginning will start within twenty twenty four
with a civil war. That's what he said. The civil
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war will begin and will end with a great earthquake.
This is not an earthquake. This is a biblical revelation
that will happen in the San Andreas Fault in California.
I won't describe it. It's terrifying, and that America is
the people. God preserve us. But don't forget what reve says.
Revelation is not mere words. Revelation is of the Holy Spirit,
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to the evangelist of Love, to Saint John, the Theologian,
the Disciple of Christ, the beloved Disciple, the familiar, the evangelist.
And Revelation clearly says that at a time will come
when the great Babylon will fall of the nations. It
says that it is poisoned the souls of men. All
interpreters say that the great Babylon is America. Never in
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the history of nations of empires have we had such
a poison to all people due to technology. We didn't
have it, not because of the Roman Empire was better,
not the Chinese more ancient, or the Egyptian, the Greek.
When the Greeks were an empire. All had their own
passion and malice. And then the one I wanted to
finish on with Saint Aristocles of Moscow. America will feed
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the whole world, but in the end it will collapse,
and the heart of North America a giant volcano explodes
and causes a terrible state of emergency. The explosion will
cause a very strong earthquake, the water, the air of
the earth will be poisoned. Either the beast nor the
bird nor the man can live longer, and the contaminated
earth for a long time.
Speaker 1 (02:10:09):
And and those just to point out, the first one
was said in twenty twenty four. The sating wristically was
that was said one hundred years prior. Yeah, now we're
talking about in going even further to the to the
twelve hundreds with bussed Agathungelos, and you know, you're talking
about a millennium of texts of revelation from the Holy Spirit,
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of understanding of something that we we lose when we
go into this post modernity. We lost this concept of
being able to have something that ties us, you know,
to something greater. And even that as as that's only
happened in the last you know, three hundred years, right.
Speaker 3 (02:10:54):
Especially if people understand that older Agathangolos, I mean he
existed a rite at the same time around when Saint
John Matatsis was living as well. So we have a
very continuous you know, I don't know if there's a
century where you don't have saints talking about this and
this stuff throughout the Orthodox Church, so you can't say that, oh,
this is a product of Greek revolutionary thought, or oh
this is a product of you know, because everyone always like,
(02:11:17):
you know, we've all heard the apologetic from Catholics Orthodoxy.
He was actually invented at the Paris School in nineteen
twenty or two. You know, you hear this kind of stuff.
People try to do the same thing for all of this,
try to find the you know, because you know, there
are all sorts of eschatologies that are psyops. I mean,
the entire evangelical Christian eschatology is an intelligence operation effectively,
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so I understand being careful and wary, but this is
why the consensus patrum is our epistemology. It can't be
usurped by some intelligence agency that is able to work
to is also capable of operating over hundreds of years
in theory, right, I.
Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
Mean, you can you can take this, you know, all
the way all the way back to you know, the second,
first and second centries, I mean, all the way to
Saint Uranais. You know, all all of these uh st
hippologis uh Saint Methodius even the prophecies from Saint Constantine's
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too in three thirty seven. You know, all of these things.
Every century has its revelation, every you know, ever since
you know, well of course you have you know Saint John,
that that begins this process of the guide posts for
the future post Christ's resurrection. You know, everything sets up
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this standard, just like we had the major and minor
profits prior to his coming, right.
Speaker 3 (02:12:45):
I mean, and just like thinking about the timing on
this stuff. I know we're not about dates and exact things,
but thinking about the schism in Ukraine and thinking about
COVID and talking about how Muchropoulitan Yoffil is what he
said this started. This is pretty much exactly one hundred
years after the martyrdom of this in his family. And
we're talking about thick and thin culture's modernity, post modernity, epistemology,
objective truth. We experienced one hundred years of complete unmooring.
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There was no kata Khon, there was no authority on earth,
you know, Catholic, you know, we had the pope, which
is we all know that's not what we're talking about here.
There was no resistor, there was no and of course
it's no wonder that thirty years after the death of
the Katacon, the Jewish state came into existence and is
able to recall of this havoc on the post World
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War two world. And now that's been one hundred years
of this sort of epistemological, cultural, identitarian swamped black hole.
We're finally returning. And this is you know, God, let
us have our own way for one hundred years, as
it were, and now we're coming. It's coming back with
a vengeance.
Speaker 1 (02:13:45):
And and look what we did. We destroyed monarchies, which
for those who have read the Russian for the Second Coming,
that explains the and and of course all biblical texts
explain now the kings are the anointed ones and that
you get the leader you deserve, and sense God puts
this on us, and then you know, we lose that,
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and and look what we do. We start destroying these things,
and you know, obviously we have a certain perspective of
who is behind that, and and you know how that precipitated.
And then of course you go what takes place with
the ethno state.
Speaker 3 (02:14:23):
People are going to be asking people are asking questions
about czars and stuff. Dimitri and I do have plans
in the future to analyze all of the you know,
claimants to the throne. But I mean, right now, US
jets are off the ground in the Middle East. Israel
Channel fourteen says we're approaching the Great War, already displaying
US attacks are on their channel. So I mean this
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might be happening live on the air.
Speaker 1 (02:14:46):
You've heard it here first purpose.
Speaker 3 (02:14:49):
World World War. Now you know the I wore the sweater.
Speaker 2 (02:14:53):
But it's providence.
Speaker 1 (02:14:55):
And I.
Speaker 2 (02:14:57):
Hold off because people are asking me to do a
stream about all this stuff, like the day had happened,
and I wanted to wait throughout the weekend to see
what emerge, what transpired, because I knew the situation may change,
and so what are the chances We're here Monday, four
days later and America has already fully involved, and Israel's
calling it the Great World War, the Great War. I mean,
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it's already fitting the contours of everything that the saints
have said and what we're discussing today, everything that we've
talked about.
Speaker 3 (02:15:25):
And when you understand these people, these you know, these Israelis,
I guess as they want to be called. They they
are terrified of this eighty year curse, this eighty year
state curse, which of course Sane Paisios also prophesied. He
said that basically said, the eighty year curse is real,
and it's gonna get It's gonna happen. But the fact
that all of this is occurring as its as this
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quickly after, I mean again, the fact that the US
is escalating just a few days after the initial Israeli strikes.
The Israelis knew that once it was pushed to the
edge here that there was almost no way that the
US they did the strikes this time because they knew
there was almost no way the US could get out
of it. But this is exactly what we were talking about,
that was prophesied that the precipitation of the events is
going to start rapidly accelerating from here on out. And
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some of those precipitous events for a few weeks maybe
on things that we had no idea was even coming.
Speaker 1 (02:16:14):
And just like we had we had we've stationed bombers
several months ago down in the Indian Ocean, you know,
and we're we were looking at at all of this
from an idea of what we see right now and
not what has been laid out for months and years
in the effect, you know, like like the the Spider
Web and the other operations. These these aren't we see
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them as happening now, but they've taken place over years
or several months. There's a lot more to these operations,
and we're just now being able to visualize this and
you know, all the things coming through, and we don't
have the same perspective of you know, this is your reality,
not the full scope, right.
Speaker 2 (02:16:59):
I want to read these two quotes, the first one
by Saint Porphyrios. I've read this in a stream before,
but you know it's worthy rehashing here. When a black
president takes over the governance of the United States of America,
then their destruction will approach. And then Saint Piecio's that
was in nineteen ninety one. This is Saint Piecios in
nineteen ninety four. We don't expect anything good from the west.
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The sun continues for so many years to go to
the west, and still it has not brightened, but it
is getting darker. Everything is ruled by God's word, not
by the Americans or the Jews. They prevailed once because
God allows it to just discipline his people. The bread
of the eec is few. The English and the Americans
are a people who work together. He tells you what
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is going on here? Does Hitler raise his head again,
and they will dissolve it. The meanings of all these
are captured by international Zionism in an international stock market
called America. America doesn't exist. Zionists are America. So after
they receive the Satanic messages, they promote them to the Vatican.
This turns them into plans and then invites Islam to
implement them. This is the way Satanic schemes work today.
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They succeed and captured our leaders. People from different places
went to America. Each one carried his rag, and so
there was a rag. America is like a loom which
assimilates all the rags, while the eec they are conflicting
and intertwined interests. The time will come when the slave
will become master, and the master will become the slave.
America is like a fox and walks with all four legs.
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But the day will come when all four legs will
be trapped in the traps that she set for others.
America will be frightened by the power of Russia, and
we'll fear it.
Speaker 3 (02:18:41):
Sat Porfudios is amazing, and I saw escon Vigil hold
up one of those books. So these quotes are from
another part. One is Saint Porfurdio's the prophet, and I
stayed with the Athonite among a hermit on Mount Athos.
He's actually American, but he speaks Greek. Of course, he's
actually making a new translation of those books because he
thinks they could be done a lot better. So hopefully
you can get even more clarity on some of these.
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But in those same books as well, we talked about
cosmology earlier. Sant Perfidios also says that the universe is
not infinite and very much has an end. So science
tards absolutely and pissing their pants. But I think the
same Porfitios, He's had so many wonderful things to say
about this, and again you still to this day have
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people saying, well, actually, don't you remember when St. Porfitios
wrote that letter to Saint Paiicios to stop talking about
the prophecies. Well, that's been long deboomed because the source
on that was Metropolitan the Ofithos, who years later came
out and said, my source on that is unreliable and
I can no longer trust the person that told me that,
so completely disregard that. So the normal one has desperately
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try to bring that one up despite the fact that
it is.
Speaker 1 (02:19:46):
Something true, something interesting. I remember when you originally did
the podcast with father Peter Hears and he was like,
there's no way that says that, and then you know
the book and he has the book, ok, and he said,
I went went to the book, It's like, sure enough,
that was there. And you know, as someone who's putting
all this stuff together, it's kind of like a little
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bit nerve wracking when you have the clergy looking at
all of this. So yeah, I always try to make
sure that everything is translated to the absolute best and
you know, you know, valuing this as well as making
sure native speakers can look at it and say, okay,
this is accurate, and then also making sure it's well cited,
because there's a lot of stuff on the internet, and
you know, putting all of those things together, you know
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this this there. I've left out a lot of the
citations in this document, which I hope to add here soon.
But it's one of those pieces where you're like, the
just just like that, you know, you can't validate these sources,
especially some that that you know may not be reliable.
And that's where you know, disclaimers come in and you
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use your best discretion and you know, you you pray
that all of this is accurate to its best. I know,
you know I've mentioned to you, Conrad. You know, the
first edition of Chological Visions was an amateur work in
every form in fashion, but it was kind of this
thing that I just felt like, I've got to get
this out. I've got to share this because I just
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you know, I've spent all this time trying to find
it myself. Someone's got to want to read this. Someone
has to want to know this in the Western world,
because I do. And you know it may not be
for everyone, but I see it as this, you know,
this this thing that kind of got, you know, piled
in my lap and was like, hey, go ahead and
do this.
Speaker 3 (02:21:29):
And I feel the exact same way about my show.
I mean when I said, if you go back and
listen to our earlier episodes, I'm not going to say
I'm not proud of them, but compared to the quality
that we do now, it's much lower. It's you know,
two guys much crummier mics. You know, we didn't have
as much time. We were doing barely one show a week,
but no one else was talking about geopolitics on a
regular basis through this perspective. So I was like, if
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no one's going to do it, I just have to.
And I'm not saying that God is rewarding me or
anything like that, but just because I did it and
stuck to it, so many amazing opportunities open themselves up
to me. I was able to go to Russia. I
was able to go to Cyprus and meet Metropolitan and
the Olfitos. I'm able to be on the stream right
now with you guys talking about this as we are
about to speak as it's all out of Israel. So again,
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I'm not saying that I'm somehow ordained by God to
be doing these things, but the Internet is being used,
like Metropolitan THEFITO said, despite all the things it's done
to sound the alarm to whether that is about this
stuff or about the truth of Orthodoxy.
Speaker 1 (02:22:29):
You know, I'll go ahead and mention you know there,
I had so much great feedback, and you know, I've
had some really great people reach out, and I have
a feedback link at a mom my website and I
get all those emails, and so I had a whole
bunch of people send me feedback on the book, Like,
you know, I put the wrong icon in the you know,
like there are so many things that were just these
little mistakes. But as you're doing this and of course
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me learning first first one and then going through all
the rest of the text, and then it starts to
really tie in and then of course, you know, trying
to put this into an academ mike scholarly, you know,
step and make sure everything's cited.
Speaker 2 (02:23:04):
That's what I love about the works you put together,
is you cite where you get everything.
Speaker 1 (02:23:09):
That That is my goal, that is what I want
to do. I think that's you know, the best approach.
And then if you you know, you may be you
know better at at some of these things that I am.
You can go and look at the original source and
decide for yourself. Does this have context, just like we
were talking about saying Gabriel, Yeah, there's definitely some context
to be looked at for some of this, and you know,
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we're all looking through it, you know, with our lens,
and we pray that we have some bit of guidance
and direction, and we pray that we have U discernment
and we pray that we have a way to put
this together for people. But of course you never want
to put out anything that's you know, incorrect, and just
because we're humans, it's going to happen. So you know,
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I was thinking about that as as some of those
pieces were going on. So hopefully you know that's an
understood thing.
Speaker 2 (02:23:59):
Yeah, I'm putting your substack in World War Now, right,
and so guys, you can now go subscribe to the
War War Now substack. That's in the video description along
with the YouTube channel. Want to move to stage five,
which is World War three. It says God will stop
the Russians at Mount Tabor, and it's coming from a
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nineteen seventy nine prophecy from Saint Philomena. My children, I
will tell you something that you will live, but I
will not live to see until here in the plane
of Tabor, the Russian army will come. He will come
down from the Caucus Georgia again connecting with things that
we've already discussed, and will do a lot of destruction.
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His goal will be to reach Jerusalem, but he will
stop here. God will not allow it to go further,
and then, for context, World War three will begin. The
Catholic Pope and Israel will make an international appeal to
NATO to intervene against Russia. Many countries will attack Russia
at the same time. Even Japan attacks Russia from the east.
Russia will not be able to fight on so many
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fronts and will begin to retreat. Nuclear weapons will destroy
the big cities of Russia's enemies. Russia will keep the
Islamis as an ally, while it will claim to the
Turks that it entered to overthrow the atheist Kimalists, and
will once again give the government of Turkey to Aragon's Islamis,
making them loyal allies who will fight with it, who
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will fight with it against NATO in the US. Constantinople
then will be mercifully hit by the Westerners, with the
result that not even a Turk will remain there, and
this will last two years. And then, of course we
have further quotes from Saint Paisios, Saint Cosmas and others.
Speaker 3 (02:25:43):
Well, Saint Philomenos is honestly, I may he may just
be my favorite saint. If I could even say that,
you know, presumptuously but he is one of the most
amazing saints of the twentieth century. I was able to
buy this icon of him in Cyprus, where he was from,
not far from where he was born, and his stories
just amazing. I mean, for those that don't know, he
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was martyred by Zionists at his monastery at Jacob's Well
where Christ spoke with the Samaritan woman, and you know,
the story should be the story. We have an amazing
massive article about it on World War Now on our substack,
so if you search Saint Philamentos World War Now, it
should come up. But I think his prophecy specifically about
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Russia and Tabor is probably the clearest prophecy about this
that I think is like, if I were to bet
on one thing happening almost exactly how it was, that
would be one of them. That's maybe what people might
call out there, but very it just shows you how
this soft spoken man whose destiny was to be martyred,
who he entered monasticism with his brother at age twelve,
This was not a international studies scholar. This was someone
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laboring in the West Bank, and he had this was
revealed to him right before his death, and it was
clearly God told him he needed to tell people about it,
and now we have Metropolitan Neolvitos who was able to
spread the word. And I think this is something that again,
when the Russians start moving south, it's going to be
it's going to be in this fog of things that
you know, who knows if we'll even be aware when
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it starts, because things are going to start precipitating so quickly.
We've got to you know, it's people are gonna have
to get on you know, not unorthodox, but you know,
different channels because the information spread, I think is going
to rapidly get get disrupted as this thing escalates.
Speaker 1 (02:27:20):
Here you know something else that we could probably tie
into this, and it just makes me think of the
you know, the anonymous prophecy of ten fifty three that
where I believe it's twenty four little snippets, and in
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that there's discussion kind of you know, it goes through
the number nine is a new European war, which would
have would have been more or two. You know. Then
ten was the union of Orthodox populations in Germany, defeat
of the French by the Germans, and it skips on
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and right now we're in this weird spot of well,
one of the prophecies was England to the Saxons only, right,
So that's England getting rid of the EU, and then
the victory of Orthodox peoples and general slaughter of the
Sons of Agar by the Orthodox, which is Turkey in Russia, right,
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Sons of Hagar being the Muslims, and the victory of
Orthodox people, and then a anxiety in the world, general despair,
and then the Battle of Seven Nations in Constantinople, slaughter
for three days and three nights, and victory of the
greatest nation over the six nations, which is talked about Russia,
and then that kind of you know, so you have
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this prophecy from ten fifty three that was anonymous and
kept in this monastery, but it ties in exactly with
you know, thirty other saints saying the exact same thing
on a very similar timeline. You know, we're still on
this this timeline, this space and I had built you know,
(02:29:12):
a year ago. But there's you know after that that
ties in exactly what Elder Joseph said verbati and you
can discuss that. I guess, yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (02:29:26):
I was gonna people in Chat have brought up sat
Kostmas of Ittolia as well. And I'm seeing here I
don't know how recent this is. This seems to be
posted today. There's new developments regarding Turkey and Greece's easy
and their Blue Homeland plan that if maybe, I mean
this seems like a good transition in escaton visual feel
some of those about the the nautical mile barrier and
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whatnot between Turkey and Greece, that if they're actually moving
on some of this stuff and addressing this at the
time at all, this is happening. I mean, this is
confluence that even I wouldn't have necessarily told people was
going to have.
Speaker 1 (02:30:03):
Right let me, let me try to find an image
real quick that I've got, and it's basically an image
of the Turkish you know, heads of state discussing how
they're going to take some of these islands, and it
shows them like on a screen. I'm sure you'll have
seen it well.
Speaker 3 (02:30:19):
And one of those is the screenshot I've been using
for years, is of you know, because before we had
Ekrom Momoglue, who's clearly the most likely came out as
successor to Airedwan right now, you had, of course, keilitch
Deoglu who ran for the presidency in the recent election
and spooked Airedwan, who, despite being a somewhat incompetent opposition,
he actually almost did overthrow Airdwan in the previous election.
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And he has all sorts of videos saying, you know,
the Greech left no idea, We're going to come in
the night, We're going to move on them, and we're
going to take their stuff. All just the same bellicose
Turkish anti Greek rhetoric as you would hear from the neotomists.
And and I'm great friends with David Earhon other people
that are Turkish Orthodox Christians in this part of the world.
And ironically enough, despite being Isist, the Islamists in Turkey
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are much nicer to the Orthodox than the secular Kamalists
because the Islamists they'll be like, okay, you know, because
from fredifor is Islam it's very a humanist religion, you know,
the very they love acumenism with their fellow people of
the book and they and they're like, oh, you guys,
you're Orthodox, you're traditional like us. You know, we believe
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in you know, higher power, and we believe in you know,
the conservative these sorts of things than the came lists
are like, Wow, not only are you a stupid, superstitious
non secular person, but the religion you believe isn't even
like the one that our people did, so honestly like
double screw you. Like that's perspective of these secularists. So
it would make sense that even though people might think, oh,
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but Erdwan's turning things into a mosque and he's a
neootomist and he's invading Turkey. Yeah, his geopolitical decisions have
negative consequences for Christians outside of Turkey, and he's not
expanding Orthodoxy within Turkey. But unfortunately he is not far
from the worst that could be for Christianity in that
part of the world, at least definitely in the short term.
Speaker 2 (02:32:06):
As Tom vigil, did you find what you're looking for?
Speaker 1 (02:32:09):
Kind of you can if you've got to grab that
link out of the private chat. There's there's a discussion
about that. And then if you go down about halfway
three quarters down, about halfway down the page, there's a
map there that's yellow and blue. You see that, yes, yeah, okay,
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click on the map. And so global security is one
of these big thing things. Did that the map work
come up a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (02:32:38):
Looks like it to try and there you go.
Speaker 1 (02:32:41):
So that's that's one of these these discussions. This is
where a lot of that is is coming from about
the Turkish invasion of certain islands, the usurpation of Greek
islands currently, but how they plan to to to expand
and gee that hammered hammered with the ads there there
(02:33:03):
we go. But but that's that's one of those things.
And I have a what I'm looking for is basically
a screencap from a video that someone took of Russian
I mean Turkish authorities either some heads of state, uh,
and one of them is wearing military uniform and he's
basically pointing at this on an easel and showcasing like, okay, well,
(02:33:28):
these are the methods by which we're going to expand
some of this and this you know, this is where
we get into timelines and things. This could be, however,
many years from now, but it still has been in
the works for several years. This isn't a new thing.
This is something they've planned on changing the European Economic
Zone and of course you know they're in NATO, but
they're also have these ease and easy regarding which islands
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are which and how all this works about mining and
mineral rights and so they're seeking you additional area for
the use uh you know, mineral rights basically and you
know in a in a very but it's also geo
and geostrategic, and it also has a big political element.
This could be years from now, but it's one of
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those elements that it could also be in in the
next week. It could be happening right now as we
as we're talking like like some of the other stuff is.
But that that's what's been in the works. And and
you can also see you know Cyprus.
Speaker 2 (02:34:29):
And yes, Cyprus right here those who those of you
don't know your geography. Here is Cyprus.
Speaker 3 (02:34:35):
Yeah, no, Cyprus is you know, I've always I could
live in Cyprus. I've said this before. But the uh,
this map, I'm looking at this and I'm going to
read what I just learned about the ez situation. This
is very recent. It's like Turkey has officially submitted its
maritime Spatial Plan to UNESCO's IOC, presenting a map that
effectively divides the Aegean. This submission, published on the Global
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MSPG Global platform, comes amid escalating tensions in the least
drawn concerns of its implications for Greek interest. The Turkish
map applies a mean line approach between Turkey and Greece's
continental coasts, disregarding Greek islands entitlement to an exclusive economic
zone and continental shelf. Islands such as chios Crete and
Castelarizo are categorized as neutral anomalies without sovereign rights. The
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document aligns with Turkey's long standing Blue Homeland doctrine, reinforcing
its claims to energy research areas and military zones, while
denying Greece's maritime rights beyond six nautical miles, which this
specific number has been referenced multiple times by multiple saints.
And the fact that again, the fact that this was
just submitted and announced as the United States seems about
to bomb Iran and Israel has just bombed Iran's nuclear
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capabilities is spooking even me out the guy with the
freaking prophecy show.
Speaker 1 (02:35:47):
Yeah, I mean, it all ties back to what these
saints have said, Kios, That's where Saint Mark's is, and
that's where Elder Gabriel is the abbot. And later in
this document he talks about his his discussion with uh
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Older Athanasius and describes, you know, what what these things
will look like. And this is coming from a Russian text,
but those visions the Elder Athanasius had basically explains everything
about all of these wars because of the Seven Wars,
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and describe some verbatim of what has taken place all
the way, you know, up till now and then of
course very soon.
Speaker 2 (02:36:44):
And it's just unreal all this stuff is happening.
Speaker 3 (02:36:46):
Like as we speak, I'm like literally just watching telegram,
just like refreshing, just like waiting for waiting to see
what I think I'm gonna probably see here in the
next hour.
Speaker 2 (02:36:57):
Well, let's kind of continuing you forward with our document here.
We kind of already hit on stage five and then
stage six Hellenic Constantinople and then the Antichrist Constantinople will
be given to Greece. We've said this multiple times. Emperor
Saint John, Duke of Atatsis will arise to rule by
the order of the Holy Elders. Greece will be kept
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out of World War III, which will neutralize the great
powers in Islam. Humanity will despair once again, highlighting the
peaceful Orthodox Greece as a new global power of creation
and humanity. Our authentic Orthodoxy will then spread everywhere, even
India and China, with people longing for its peace and love,
its brotherhood, and its divine assurance it provides. The Greek
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language will again become sought after as the only one
that can express with the greatest possible perfection the divine
meanings of the Gospel.
Speaker 3 (02:37:50):
So I've heard that about because you know, there's controversy
because Elderfrem's monasteries are all in ancient Greek. And I
had a pretty long conversation with Metropolitan Theofitos about this,
who himself is in favor of, you know, the vernacular
language for Orthodoxy, but at these monasteries the ancient Greek
being used. Remember, it's not really ethnophilitism, especially considering most
Greek people can't even understand it. So it's not really
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like this is just for Greeks. It's about there needs
to be some places preserving the theological exactitude of the
language that the Gospel was originally preached in. And that
doesn't mean that for my monasteries or this. People are
advocating that every bishop and every church and every parish
should be doing this but you know, Aldo Frem set
up seventeen eighteen nineteen. Depending on how you count the
monasteries in America, and maybe some of them turn to English,
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but I know a few of them will, at least
in the liturgy, are going to remain committed to the
ancient Greek. And I don't think people who I think
I'm on this. I agree we need to have English
language liturgies at all the parishes, but this is something,
you know, a little bit different. And I think the
fact that you know, Constantinople, Cyprus, all these places are
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going to this is all about, like I think, I
don't know if we've mentioned this before, but clearly we're
witnessing at least prophesied is out of all of this,
a sort of neo you know, a sort of e
merging of the Second and Third Rome will kind of occur, right,
And I think politically the question is is we know
that the Russians will give Constantinople to Greece. The question
is sort of what will Greek Russian and then even
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Georgian and Serbian, what will Pan Orthodox relations look like
in the midst of that, and how will it coincide
with you know, the the I think. I mean, if
it's an ecumenical council, it would be the tenth ecumenical council,
because we know the Photean and Palomite Councils are the
eighth and ninth right councils, respectively, So I think it would.
That's also I think a bit fitting if this is
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going to be sort of a council to end all councils.
The ten is quite a good round number there.
Speaker 2 (02:39:42):
Yeah, complete number in regards to the Greek language, you know,
the stownt vigil. And I have a friend named Charlesannas
and shout out to Charlesanna if he's watching this, Love you, brother,
God bless you. But one of the things that he's
lamented in our private conversations is that within the younger
generationtions the Millennials and the gen Zers in Greece, is
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that they're losing contact with their ancient heritage and so
they're not interested in the church, they're not interested in tradition, prophecies,
what the elders have said. And even for him, he
thinks they're losing their linguistic abilities to even engage with
their history and culture. And so that's you know, that's
a real problem. And when I was in Greece, i
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went to That's La Nikki with my wife. I noticed
that when you look at the gen z Ors, the millennials,
like they all look like Westerners, like the way they dress,
the way they they they're engaging. And so this this
monolithic secular culture that America has given risen to through
Hollywood and it's been you know, all of its pop culture,
is that it's saturated different places, and Greece is affected
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by this, and I think that's maybe these again, the
the invasion by Turkey or the realization that all this
stuff isn't just like you said, ethnophilic, you know, hogwash mythology,
cultural narratives, but this stuff is real, hopefully spark a
revival within Greece amongst the younger generations actually preserve the
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thing that they have because I think in Conrad you
can probably feel the same way. Like when I went
to Greece as an Orthodox convert, like I loved how
Orthodoxy was saturated into the culture like it was. It
was amazing. There was an amazing experience that you walk
around and that's Ala Nikki. On a random street corner,
there's a chapel, there's you know, a series of icons,
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a place to prey, and the candles are lit. Somebody's
going by and keeping the candles lit. And yet and
then to see the young people like not engage and
not really care about the thing that they have, while
us Westerners who have the thing that they think they
want and we're trying to get rid of it, and
we're trying to get like move back to what you
call a thick culture, but I call a pre modern worldview.
It's just kind of sad, and so hopefully these things
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can spark a sort of cultural and religious revival in
Greece so that they can cherish and protect the thing
that they have.
Speaker 3 (02:42:01):
No and it's you know, going to Cyprus, you walk around,
i mean their president for like fifteen years was also
just the archbishops, so it's just a totally different and
there's statues of him everywhere, and with all of the
stuff about you know, Saint John Vatatsas, I mean there
are I'm sure as kind of vigil also has heard about.
All these are stories of him appearing to people and
telling them how they're going to play specific roles in
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you know his you know empire as it were, and
even in some of the specific prophecies talk about how
you know, because there's prophecies of a czar, there's Saint
John Patatsa's, there's other saints that are going to Saint
Sarah I'm of sarav is apparently going to come back.
So these people are all going to have different roles.
They may not even be identified as who they were
perhaps in their initial lives. Like it reminds me of,
for example, Saint Theodor Kuzmich, who was Tsar Alexander the
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first of the second I'm forgetting who you know, fled
and faked his own death and lived as Astaritz in
the far East of Russia and as a canonized saint.
So even though he's not canonized as a czar, we
actually have multiple of the last six Zars of Russia
canonized saints besides just Sar Nicholas the Second. And I
want to encourage everybody who wants to learn more about
because you know, we're almost three hours in at this point.
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You want to hear more details about Saint John Viatatsas,
please check out part one and part two that we
did on our ether hour show, which is our Paywall
show over on the sub Stack that Dimitri and my
co host did with Gregory Here's father, Peter Herees' son
we did who As far as I'm aware, it's the
most extensive English language piece of content about Saint John
Batatsas that's really out there, besides, of course, just translations
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of things that were written in Greek. So it's part
one is all about his life and who he was
and why it matters and what happened, and then part
two is all about the prophecies and what is to come.
And you know, I think he's somebody that everyone's you know,
he's somebody who's intercessions everybody should be seeking at this
point because you know, especially you know, he was able
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to resist them boys, the Zionists of his time as
well as the Muslims. He was able to resist the
temptation of engaging in usury and empire. He even you know,
stated the plows whole life. So as we're witnessing people
like Donald Trump and others do what they're doing, we
can ask for the intercessions of someone that we know
was a truly holy regular and Zar Nicholas the second,
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you know, thinking about all these people you've got, you know,
Constantine s Zar Nicholas, the second Saint John Batatsas is
very much kind of a central middle figure in time,
so representing that central era where you know it was
the Byzantine interregnum. He himself did not rule o our Constantinople.
But this is a symbolism that I've thought through myself.
Much like he set the groundwork for restoring, you know,
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the Byzantine Empire and retaking Constantinople for another two hundred
years before its final fall, what he will be doing
by facilitating this brief successful period with the resurgence of
Orthodoxy as will it'll be sort of a shortened version
of those two hundred years, maybe instead of two hundred,
it'll be you know, fifty or one hundred or something
of these years where the Gospel will be spread and
then the Antichrist will come, much like the Church finally
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took Constantinople in fourteen fifty three. So these things they
sort of work in cycles, and the times themselves are
you know, nothing new is under the sun, so we
are sort of experience, much like we experienced the types
of Antichrist that increase in their anti christness until the
final proto type of merges. We experienced that same I
think in how we as the church militant engage with
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these processes and cycles within civilization as well.
Speaker 2 (02:45:20):
Yeah, great point.
Speaker 1 (02:45:21):
You know, there's as I was mentioning before we moved
from that, before we actually got live, I'm commissioning a
new icon tradition to be hopefully blessed. I've got, you know,
some discussions with Janis Sarsakis, who Charsanis was so gracious
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to translate for us while we were discussing all of this.
He's one of the foremost authorities on Saint John, and
he and I had had a fantastic uh uh you
know chat about all of this and and some of
my efforts to bring this about. Hopefully the year we'll
have some form of the Tatsia, which is a celebration
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of the area that's done every year there in DiDia Moteco,
where where you know Sosarkis lives and and he's written
several books on several saints from that area, including too
on Saint John. And hopefully by the end of this year,
I should have at this point I've translated everything that
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he's put out. But we we discussed you know, I
have permission to to use some some excerpts and things
from his books to include to have this, you know,
kind of a full text in English about this and
releasing this uh new icon you know once, once it's produced,
will have a digital version and and you know, hopefully
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have some more things around that he's my name saying.
So this is something that I'm you know, really heavily
focused on, uh you know, promoting right.
Speaker 2 (02:46:54):
And you know, a major shout out to you, Conrad
and Dimitri because I remember when Ascatan Vid watched your
your show on John Vitatsis, uh, because then he we
we talked regularly and then he was telling me about
them what what and so we had to check it
out and so great, great stuff, brother, and keep doing
what you're doing. And again I shared your substack link,
(02:47:15):
so guys, go subscribe to the World War Now substack,
Go subscribe to their YouTube channel, go to the Escatonvigil
dot org and support our translation efforts and getting all
this stuff into English.
Speaker 3 (02:47:26):
Thank you, brother, greatly appreciate it. And I've I've said
the story million times to the World War Now audience,
but just some people are aware, like much like Jonathan
This is very near and dear to my heart because
when I became Orthodox, when I was brought into the church,
I was I went to like three or four liturgies
before everything went locked down and we had COVID for
that entire time, and I was, you know, I was,
you know, again, I didn't lose faith, but I was like,
(02:47:47):
is this this all it takes for the church that
I just you know, converted to because it's the one
through true Church of Christ, to you know, just shut
down because the world says so because of this fake nonsense.
And who thankfully I was, you know, watching liturgy online
and thankfully I found metropolit and the Opitos and his
live stream liturgy and seeing him get arrested and resist
the authorities in twenty twenty, like that, that gave me
the strength to deal with the nonsense I was dealing
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with here in Austin, Texas and even up in Idaho
at the time when I was trying to go to
church and all of this, and people are calling the
bishops on the priest and the police, and it was
just a horrible, horrible time for somebody who was just trying,
who had thought he had left the confusing nonsense of
Protestantism jording into Orthodoxy, but so metropolitan the Olpitos like
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is a hero and I'm not. And I get very
defensive when people say all these terrible things about him,
because he had a dramatic influence in my life. And
I wouldn't go so far as to say that maybe
without him I wouldn't be Orthodox, but I would have
had a much harder time in that time of my
life if it wasn't, because if I hadn't found his
teaching and his wisdom, and that was well. But like
I was watching his stuff well before the prophecies came
(02:48:52):
into it. That came later, because I just I wanted
to watch everything he said. So you know, people know.
Speaker 2 (02:48:58):
And they don't know. Way I did a whole stream
covering some of his videos that Conrad's talking about, I mean,
New World Order, Zionism, Kazars, Ukraine, Russia, prophecies, eschatology, Globohomo.
Like he hits on everything that.
Speaker 3 (02:49:16):
I mean, even so many of his talks are just
like he gets into the meat of you know Greek,
you know Neopatristics and the Cappadocian fathers, and you know
how the Theotokos works in the world. You know, my
probably my favorite talk about his then I first saw
early was you know, the demon why the demons hate
the Theotokos. He talks about that, and that's just one
of the one of the greatest videos online you can
(02:49:38):
send to people who it really helps even Protestants understand
the importance of why we venerate the Mother of God
because she is the one that gave Christ her body,
which is, you know, she allowed Christ to do the
thing that the demons know will will kill them and
it will be their downfall. So she's such a critical
instrument in the salviafic work of Christ that her name
is just awful towards the demons.
Speaker 1 (02:49:59):
There's there's one of the books of his Folders, the
Veneration of the icon of the Mother of God, that
describes throughout history. I think the chapters are based on
the efforts to destroy the Theotokos, and and it's like,
you know, first there's this, then there's you know, the
(02:50:20):
iconic clasts, and and then you know, all of these
things were very specific efforts devoted, you know about a
certain group of people to destroy you know, the Theotokos
and It's so fascinating because as a convert, this is
something that didn't exist in my framework. And and then
you suddenly have this reverence for, you know, something you
(02:50:44):
didn't even know existed really and it becomes, you know,
something that's so unbelievable, you know, but amazing and you know, glorified. Amen.
Speaker 2 (02:50:54):
I want to read this last section here regarding stage
seven and the anti Christ and and and then we
there's prophecies that the Eskaton Vigils added to this document
throughout the back. If there's something after I read it,
uh Eskanton Vigil that you want to reference or highlight,
but we have a handful of super chats and pretty
good questions and we're already at three hours. So I
(02:51:17):
want to read this last section in regards to all
the seven stages that you laid out, and then if
you have anything that you want a reference, and again,
if anybody wants to be able to get access to
this document, make sure you go over to the escanton
Vigil dot org. So I'm going to read this and
then if you have anything you want to say regarding
the rest of the document, and then we have some
specific questions people have for you guys that that we
(02:51:40):
can address real quick, because I don't want to keep
you guys too long. But you know, this is a
great topic.
Speaker 1 (02:51:46):
This is like our topic. So we can talk about
this for like six hours, run out of material, plus
the news may just give us more material.
Speaker 2 (02:51:54):
We're discussing right, so stage seven here, there will be peace, prosperity,
and joy for several years throughout the earth until the
Antichrist comes to once again spoil the godly happiness of
people and deceive the world. He will say that he
is Christ and make false miracles, whiles deformed and terrible
demons will be presented by him as quote aliens who
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allegedly came to him to Earth with him to Earth first.
But at the last moment of the swearing Inn will
be captured by our patriarch in Jerusalem, and immediately after
by the Jews themselves, whom he will have to exterminate
immediately so that they do not reveal that he is
not the Messiah but the Antichrist devil. Then the universe,
the creation of the true Christ, will rebel against the
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lie and the liar. The sun will be darkened, the
sea will be polluted, and everything will abhor his Antichrist's kingdom,
the earth will refuse to bear fruit in a great
famine will fall in the world, which the Antichrist will
take advantage of to seal people with the Seal of
Loss six sixty six, so that he can take with
them to Hell out of the hatred for the creations
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of the Triune God and the end, however, the real
Christ will intervene in his second coming will take place
at midday, the resurrection of all humans from Adam and
the judgment. Blessed are the believers of Christ and the
Virgin Mary and the saints, but also the righteous and
virtuous before Christ, like our ancestors, who will inherit the
Kingdom of Heaven, the incomparable paradise, the eternal sweet of
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sweet life that will never end, living in eternal youth
and joy.
Speaker 1 (02:53:26):
Yep, that's I don't know. This is where you where
we make this huge separation in mental frameworks from the
John Darby Schofield dispensationalism that everyone who's a convert came
from in at least in America, and then into what
this looks like now. Saints and several of the other
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saints discussed the Antichrist. I mean even as far back
as you know, the three hundreds, it was very well
well discussed. There is this timing something you know, obviously
we don't know this timing specifically, but we do know
from you know that there's a three and a half
year period, right, there's a you know, several several of
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these kind of things that are are outlined more explicitly.
There are biblical uh you know, text will reference and
then also from from the saints themselves, and that kind
of ties together what this looks like. So it it
kind of for me, it illustrates there's this regional war,
now there's a global war coming very soon. But after
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that there's peace, and then you have the separation of Okay, well.
Speaker 5 (02:54:37):
That that isn't end time in the future, which you know,
we may or may not have any inkling of how
that ties in or or is connected or maybe you know, however.
Speaker 1 (02:54:47):
Many years or or maybe few you know, that's not
something that we can know.
Speaker 2 (02:54:53):
And that great the great era of peace and the
spread of Orthodoxy. I remember reading one saint from one
of the books that you translated, was that this is
the last and great mercy of God to allow Orthodoxy
to spread and allow a golden age, allow knowledge and
the pursuit for something pious, righteous and spiritual that people can,
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you know, make the right decision at this point in
the timeline and offer repentance and get in line with Christ.
And so this is again, even though we're talking about
this great war like it's in my perspective like I'm optimistic,
I'm actually hopeful. I'm excited for the proliferation of Orthodoxy,
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and this is this is a grace by God, a mercy,
a compassion for us, so that the whole world has
the opportunity to repent as we move closer towards this thing,
and then those who do repent, you're gonna have eyes
to see. So when these things begin to unfold, you're
gonna be able to see it more and more clearly
than somebody who's deceived by the liar. And they're gonna
be submitting to earthly power while we submit to transcendent
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triune power.
Speaker 1 (02:56:00):
And and you know, the the aliens thing. There are
several things that talk about this, but even even Father
Spirited Aileen, I know you've discussed podcasts on this. That's
this is where it's kind of come into mainstream because
of Tucker Carlson, the aliens or demons that that's well
known within the church. There's there's not a you know,
(02:56:21):
that's kind of this weird space right now that was
brought in because of podcasts and you know, its own popularity.
But but that is the belief of the church absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:56:31):
Well. How many people came into the church because of
Father saraphrom Rose. He's who got me into the church.
You know, may have you know, revitalized me after I
brought in, but it was Father seraph from Rose who
got me into the door for oion person was responsible.
And you know, he talks about so much more. I mean,
he talks about all so many of the things we're
talking about. He talks about how they I mean Father
Seraphim if you read his life, how part of how
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we bonded with Father Hermann was they both believed in
the prophecies of the news are and when when they
The fact that two guys in the fifties and sixties
and in California would come to the same conclusion as well,
and now who we are talking about them on this
stream again is just so incredible to me. But I
think when we understand that You're right. I'm very much
(02:57:15):
an eschatological optimist.
Speaker 2 (02:57:17):
Yeah, and that's where I'm glad that you again you
reinforce that because I've even seen people in the chat
in our conversation today acting fearful or this is giving
them anxiety. And it's like, at least for us three,
who've probably read more about this stuff than anybody in
the live chat, like I'm actually really optimistic, Like I'm
excited for Orthodoxy to spread, and like our spiritual life,
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suffering is the way that we get closer to God.
And this is going to be a form of global
suffering to call people to repentance.
Speaker 3 (02:57:47):
And to sort of address not necessarily an elephant in
the room. But when people say, like people I say, oh,
nothing ever happens, nothing ever happens, nothing ever happens. Well
that's bad, okay. The fact that nothing happens means that
the regime that Zi, that the devil that the powers
that be, the powers and principalities in the air and
the high places, are carrying on business as usual. We
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need something to, as we said earlier, that will even
just in a political sense, disrupt the system, disrupt the
panopticon that is developing around us that will result in
a world that is very, very difficult for people to
achieve salvation. You know, God is mercifully hopefully and what
we seem to be happening, you know, giving us a
(02:58:28):
very brief period of struggle and hardship to prevent us
from that which you can just see typified in what
happened in Russia versus what happened in the West. Yes,
Russia had a harder go of it in the twentieth century,
but look, in the long term, the Russians will emerge
as an Orthodox power once again. The West, the rot
that had occurred over that longer period of time of
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decadence hallowed it out from the inside in a much
more spiritually damaging way than the blunt force of the
communist yoke did to the East.
Speaker 2 (02:58:57):
Right, ask Don Vigils, is there anything you want to say? Again,
you guys can get the rest of this. This is
Elder the prophecies of Elder Athanasius of Eva the whole
section here.
Speaker 1 (02:59:10):
So you know, I'm I'm you know, available, but I again,
the more interesting things. Actually, you've discussed all of the
stuff previously. Some of this the prophecies of Elder Athanasius.
I believe this is the first time this has ever
been in English. So this that might even be more
interesting to some of the people if you want to
read through some of that after you know about the
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Seven Wars, or I'm happy to if you, if you
skip forward just a little bit, and this is I
kept the formatting. I'm kind of a stickler about formatting.
It looks kind of odd, but this is exact same
formatting as in the book in Russian, as well as
the the highlighted or or or bolded text. I always
format things exactly how I find them. There may have
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been some reason why the author did that, so I
kept it how it was. But one of the this text,
which is a recent fine, just in the last month
or so, so a year plus after I had completed
that timeline, this talks about all of that in depth.
It says the first of the warst was the one
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that took place in Georgia. Greece will offer its army
to the authority of the coming Chosen King. Russia will
endure one more provocation and attack from Georgia, and this
one we can will completely destroy Georgia. The Russia. While
the Russians are over Georgia, the Ukrainians and cited by
the Americans, will also begin harshly provoke Russia. Turkey will
allow American ships and aircraft to enter the Straits and
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airspace to strike Russia. You know, talking about the previous
war in Georgia, right how you mentioned there's some context
and now talking about Ukraine. And of course this was
written I think maybe two thousand and eight ish or before,
maybe it was two thousand and seven actually the at
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the same time. Then next year or the latest October,
American and Israel will attack a Rain. The war will
begin from below because of the blessing that protects Greece,
but the war will be close to US, Albania, Croatia, Bosnia, America,
NATO against Serbia and Russia. In Greece, within a few weeks,
the government will fail and we'll go to elections and
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that's when the junta ruling Turkey will attack us. So
you know, that's something I don't know when the next
Turkish elections are or the next Greek elections are.
Speaker 3 (03:01:35):
Well, we talked about earlier how if Erdwan is blamed
for some sort of failure from a nationalistic, secular perspective
then yeah, like I said, it said a junta, then
a secular military dictatorship could easily take power.
Speaker 1 (03:01:46):
The Black Sea will become a Russian lake after Turkey's conquered.
Turkey will be the first country to experience Russian super
secret super weapon. That's you know, that's a fascinating element.
I don't think of seen.
Speaker 3 (03:02:01):
And some of these some dues, some directed energy.
Speaker 1 (03:02:05):
Yeah, some form of that. The Russians, meeting resistance from
the Turks and hurrying to defeat them before NATO can
assist Turkey, will destroy the country entirely, and even earlier.
Russians will enter Georgia, Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan, pushing the American
forces in the north. And in the north, the Russians
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will invade Scandinavian countries Finland, Sweden, Norway and conquer them.
This will happen because although these countries will formally maintain neutrality,
it is from their territory that the first serious strike
on Russia will be launched, targeting civilians, and that goes
back to the nuclear weapons and F sixteen's being in Finland.
Russians will enter Poland, Czech republics of Lakiao, Romanian, Moldova.
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The populations of the Orthodox Baltican countries will rise up
and overthrow their correct rulers. And then the Russians will
head south to help their allies, the Arabs and especially
the Iranians in the war against the Americans. So that's
a fascinating piece to all of this that ties it
almost directly back. The Russians will pass through all of
Persia and crush American NATO forces though invader rapt Siria, Jordan,
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leban and Kuwait and finally, finally Israel. And at this
time the USA and Israel make the first attempt to
use nuclear weapons, but Russians will neutralize them. This will
cause disruptions and energy and communications across the whole world.
The Russians will enter Egypt and seize the Suez Canal.
During their Middle Eastern offensive, Russians forces will pass through Greece,
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but not cause Greeks the slightest harm. Moreover, moreover, they
will move through Greece quickly, skioping forward. Just a I
am on page nineteen. Sorry, I'll lose you there. I
was kind of bouncing on some of this stuff, but
it's It's really fascinating absolutely to read, because you know
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this was written a decade prior or two decades prior
to us, you know, talking now almost and it you know,
relatively new to finding in some of this text and
then translating it and then finding out it's almost exactly
probatum to what we will already produced. So one thing
that will break the Russians and force them to divide
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their forces. Betrayal by the Chinese. Although China will initially
be on Russia's side, after some time, rued by the
greatest bribe in history, control over all of Siberia, the
Chinese will pull back their troops and even where allow
allied forces to strike Russians from behind, which I think
they say that Japan will strike Russia. And then there
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that's when those wretches who do not send their troops
to aid Russia will now send them against the heroic
Greek army, under which, under the leadership of God given
King John, will take part in the Battle of Armageddon.
But here they will face total defeat. It's ranny. King John,
having ascended the throne, will continue to wage war, and
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this time against the Chinese. The Greek army together with
a few allies among the Orthodox nations. That is one
hundred and to one hundred and fifty thousand men against
an army of two hundred million. The fire that will
come down from heaven and will melt the Chinese, as
the elder described it to me, you will be bought.
Speaker 2 (03:05:15):
Sounds like Byzantine fire.
Speaker 1 (03:05:17):
Is so fascinating, you know, because this is so accurate
to what we've looked at. After defeats, the sovereign will
fight against all Muslims, first in Asia and then in
North Africa. And then it mentions the West will send
the majority of its forces along the Nation Road through
our land, Greece. This will happen first because Greece will
be neutral and an informal ally of Russia. As we
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skip forward a little bit, it talks about the atrocities
of the Crusades will repeat by the Western soldiers. And
then in the days the follow a worldwide economic crisis
will begin, the result of which the credit system will collapse.
And then, you know, these are really highly detailed discussions
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of you know, because of traffic jams on the Nation Road.
The elder told me that the troops will number about
three million. NATO will send part of their forces through.
That's and I believe another Saint Mencha's that as well.
Speaker 3 (03:06:15):
Yeah, one of the one of the saints that specifically
talked about the China stuff, of course, is Saint Sarah Fimaveritza,
who said all of this even after a lot of
the World War one and two events, and he prophesied
the Chinese betraying the Russians taking Siberia, and there are
other prophecies. It's interesting when it talks about Saint John
leading the Greeks against the Chinese as well, because one
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of the prophecies that this was told to me again
by spiritual child of Elder Afrem themselves, like that Saint
John when he emerges that their Russian fleet will be
surrounding Constantinople and he'll actually just move his hand and
sweep the all the boats over with a with a
huge wave and just wipe them all out. So I
think one of the most contingent factors on some level
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of national repentance on either side, I think in these
prophecies is how close or friendly the Greeks and the
Russians and the Orthodox will be around this time. So
that's that's one of the things that I'm the most
interested in. How God is kind of you know, sorted
all out right.
Speaker 1 (03:07:12):
And here we get into unfortunately complete destruction awakes America.
Of the three hundred million population currently there, ninety percent
will perish for various war related reasons. And as we
as we go on, they mentioned a few things about
the tax and chickens, dogs and cats, which is a
reference to Saint Cosmos. And I think let's just go
(03:07:37):
ahead and we can skip forward a little more to
the next set prophecies of Elder Joseph Levadapadi, which were
relayed by Elder Gabriel, who's the abbot of the monastery
of Saint markan Kios. Like I mentioned, that's an image
of him there on the right. He discusses this and says,
(03:08:02):
almost verbatim, very different but similarly, that their World War
will occur in seven successive phases or conflicts that will
gradually escalate, and the first is between Russian and Georgia.
And I mean, this is so incredibly similar. One is
in a Russian book from twenty twenty, but was written
(03:08:24):
in two thousand and eight. The republished was in twenty twenty.
And then of course this is from around a similar time,
sometime before two thousand and nine. But as it goes on,
this validates and records the exact same deal. While the
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Russians are fighting, the Ukrainians will be start up by
the Americans. Turkey will allow them to pass through the Dardanelles.
And then you skip to phase two of that. If
you go down to the next page twenty seven. On
phase two, it says an attack by America and Israel
against Iran is imminent. The war, by God's grace for
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Greece will start from below. And then there's the quote
from Saint Cosmos.
Speaker 3 (03:09:13):
And that's what I said, I think it's better that
this started in Gaza, as opposed to escalating in the
Baltics or Scandinavia or somewhere else. I think, you know,
perhaps we could take some comfort.
Speaker 1 (03:09:24):
In that, right. This mentions that the destruction that the
Scandinavians will suffer will shock humanity. I think that's that's
likely a reference to some form of nuclear or massive weapon.
And then it also mentions that serves in Romanians of
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the orthodox Balkan states, but not the Bulgarians will rise up.
And if you're familiar from the geopolitical element. Bulgaria has
the largest NATO base right there on the Black Seat.
It's the largest base, if I'm not mistaken. It's the
largest military base of any of the NATO forces. It's massive,
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and apparently we're going to you know, build that up.
It makes UH. Phase three, the Russians move south. Phase four,
the Russians will will have the betrayal of the Chinese.
Phase five, the Russians will retreat and the Westerns will
land in Albania with three million troops moving through the
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via nation the national Road, and several references to Saint Clostmas,
including that part will be channeled through Thessaly and mentioning
again UH Phase six with with the destruction. And then
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and then there's in this one there's a mention of
Saint Carl Lambos who prophesied that Russia will become a
great global superpower for five and a half months, but
in the end would be defeated by the Americans, though
there'd be no hands left to applaud. Essentially, there'd be
no victor because of the earth would become one vast cemetery,
which we have several quotes about. And then and then
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going into the Turkey's attack. They discuss the Turks of
planning to see several large Greek islands, possibly to exchange
them for Eastern Thrace. And this is interesting because of
what we just experienced. Caches with thousands of weapons have
already been found, and we know from some who provocatively
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stay in five star hotels that we will experience violent disruption,
overthrow the legal order. I mean, just the idea of
having hidden caches. That's that's exactly the play that we've
just witnessed twice in the last month. Right, they talk
about Cavala to Athens and a diversion, but they'll also
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take attack Cyprus. And then it mentions the six Oncle
Miles originally prophesied. But anyways, I find those to be
the most interesting because all of this is within the
last you know, two decades, and it's very similar, if
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not almost exact, to what we ended up putting together
over the course of a year of all the prophecies
and assembling them and seeing this this global concordancy. You know,
every every one of these prophecies ties into the next,
or or may iterate different elements that aren't a part
of one, that are a part of another, and they're
from every different Orthodox mation. This isn't just the Greek element,
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this is not just the Russian element. These are all
throughout all the Orthodox lands. So I just want to
go through that.
Speaker 2 (03:12:52):
No, that was great, And they're so specific. I mean
that's what that kind of struck me going through them
is how more detailed and specific the elders are talking
about how these events are going to unfold, and who's
going to be doing what and on what side each
nation or group of people are going to be on.
Speaker 1 (03:13:11):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's one of these elements where you
have people who have grown up in the Western world
who are are so focused on reason and trying to
trying to understand their world. Through that lens, we'll see
something that will How how could this happen? How can
this be prophesied? I mean I was one of those people.
I was looking at this like, well, how how can
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I be watching this take place? And I have people
who have told me the same thing for over a
thousand years repeatedly. That comes into this. Yeah, everyone coming
from from from the Western mind into this Eastern Orthodox
pronoma gets to they it's participatory because it's relevatory and
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participatory faith isn't like what we were told it was.
It is very you know, it's very different. And of
course you have to be humbled to be able to
look at this and say, man, I had this all wrong.
I thought all of this stuff about Russia and being
someone who is a you know, a proud American who
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was in the military and very passionate about all of this.
Looking at it now and thinking, oh, well, I have
a completely different mindset than I had just you know whatever,
six years ago, seven years.
Speaker 2 (03:14:32):
Ago, right, that's why Well, the escam Visil and I
were talking probably we said that this prophecy stuff is
like the rabbit hole of all rabbit holes. Like it,
you have to be you have to go through so
many layers to get here to where again you believe it,
it makes sense, you can connect the dots, you know,
we talked about rabbit holes. You know, people think learning
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about Jekyl Island and the Federal Reserve is a big deal.
It's like, dude, that's like, that's just a stepping stone,
that's a pebble to getting to like theology.
Speaker 3 (03:15:04):
I was talking to. I was hanging out with Charles Carroll,
a few weeks ago of a million dollar extreme fame.
If you guys are Sam Hyde fans, he's the other
He's the short guy and all the original Mde sketches.
We were hanging out and we were talking and he's
interested in Orthodoxy and he's read you know, Elder Thaddeus
and Saint Porphyrios and these things, and he has the
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show The Palace, and he's really into this esoteric, really
schizo stuff. You know, we're talking about gang Stocking, We're
talking about you know, ritual abuse, all this sorts of stuff.
And then I'm just like, yeah, man, and next thing,
you know, I'm gonna have to tap you in about
you know, the Marble Emperor. And he's like, whoa, I
don't even know. Like that was like he wasn't even
ready to go there. So I'm like, yeah, this is
this is like at a certain level, I almost had
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to you know, I almost had to become you know,
an alternative cosmologist, you know, geocentrist, moon landing denial before
I could even begin to entertain some of this stuff.
Because you're entering into a whole new world. And that's
what I was talking about earlier. You want to become.
If ever, if everything is about Christ, why wouldn't you
want to enter into the most Christian world that the
most Christian worldview? And I mean, I want to believe
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that the world, like my perspective of the world is
it's what the Bible says, you know. My perspective of
what's gonna happen in the future is it's what the
Saints say, you know, like this is this is what
we believe, full stop. That's it. Because if you believe
that Jesus Christ rose from the dead and set up
a church and set up an infallible tradition, then why
would you believe anything else?
Speaker 2 (03:16:27):
Right? Right, Amen, let's get through some of these questions
that we got for the panel here over on stream Labs.
Z throws in five bucks. Thank you very much, Victor Z.
He says, Conrad Franz sounds like a name too good
to be true.
Speaker 3 (03:16:48):
It's my legal name. I'm not going to pull out
my driver's license for you, but I could.
Speaker 2 (03:16:53):
I get your real ID out so we can verify it.
And then Victor Z throws in ten more dollars and says,
this whole situation truly has made me lose the last
sliver of hope in the political system. You either get
the demonic atheist Jay's or you get wicked Israel Jays
total sham. Focusing on local politics and our personal life
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seems to be the only feasible thing left. Fair enough, well,
that thing as well.
Speaker 3 (03:17:20):
I mean that's a you know, if you are somebody
that's interested in those sorts of things, and you are
you're a high IQ person and you're of the in America,
you're of the American you know, ethnic persuasion, then you
should be doing everything. I mean, look, let's put this.
You know, the new emperor is gonna need an aristocracy, right,
so I'm not I'm not, you know, I mean that's
not saying that anyone will be anything. I mean, just
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you should be. You should try to be the best
version of yourself for your own sake and for your
own salvation. But if there's one thing that you know
you can do is just becoming a competent person, somebody
that in your community is respected and has resources, and
you aren't, you know, frank, like you're not poor, Like
you actually are able to give to the poor. You know,
Like that's not to say that we just disdain for
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the poor. But you shouldn't be aspirationally impoverished. And this
includes again if you have an aptitude for it, perhaps
even attending a university, if you are capable of resisting
you know, the degeneracy and so that and acquire real
for the eight communities where people don't have to do
those same sorts of things. I think a big connection
of this and the main people you'll meet that talk
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about these things are people that are connected to Elder
Friend's monasteries, people that are seeking intentional Christian community, and
intentional Christian community can only work with high human capital.
Speaker 2 (03:18:35):
Absolutely Disgrenald Dox throws in five, thank you so much, brother.
He says, fear can also come from not being spiritually
and physically prepared. That's true. So if you are feeling anxiety, again,
everybody's on their own journey, you know, be obedient to
your spiritual father. But you know, as Conrad said, I
think you know, once you're kind of in the groove
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of the orthodox life and being an Orthodox Christian, and
you know, then you can kind of dive into some
of these deeper waters without it shaking your faith. I mean,
I don't think anybody here who dives into this stuff.
This stuff shakes our faith in anything, it actually strengthens it.
But if you're new, you know, just hold off, just
try to be a good Orthodox Christian. And then over
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on Dono chat we had a couple super chaps. Rigovic
throws in four and they say, any prophecies regarding celestial
catastrophes love from the UK. I'm not aware of any
Eskaton vigil. Conrad, you guys are aware of any prophecies
regarding asteroids or celestial events?
Speaker 3 (03:19:39):
Well, obviously saying Gabriel of Georgia, he has the whole
don't look up at the sky quote that I think
everyone's probably familiar with, you know, at the end times,
best not to look at the stars because it'll be deceptive.
I also think I remember, and it may even have
been in the first draft of the Eschatological Visions of
the Blessed. Don't quote me on that at all, that
some prophecy included the Medior ver Kellyabinsk and Russia at
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one point, which I remember as a kid, I was,
you know, fifteen at the time, I thought it was
like the coolest thing ever or whatever it was, and
so I have a vivid memory of that, and there
was some other bluebeam obviously related, you know, alien prophecies.
I almost feel like I'm missing, you know, Saint Gabriel
definitely talks about things in the air and these sorts
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of things. And I think I'm forgetting one thing, but
I'm sure at some point i'll remember it.
Speaker 1 (03:20:26):
I think something's mentioned in Elders on the End Times.
Maybe I don't know. Let me let me do a
quick search. I think someone said that God would destroy
satellites with a meteor shower at some point. That's one
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random thing that I just thought of. I don't remember
that exactly. I know it's somewhere maybe in the vision
of Elder Anthony. Maybe that was maybe somewhere somewhere in
there if I remember. There's also, let's see, I do
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have there are some people who have written about the
media shower of eighteen thirty three and how that that
became a certain phenomena. And then there's one other, one
other one I was thinking of, but I don't believe.
I believe it was from a lady, and I don't
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think she was a nine. I'll have to look that up.
But you know, obviously there are lots of references biblical
and extra biblical. That reference you know, signs in the
skies and you know that's that's a common one, just
like you know, the earthquakes and the signs of the
earth and the heavens give us a relevance, I guess
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of of you know how small we are and how
great God is.
Speaker 3 (03:21:57):
I mean that's a New Testament as well. It says
that things will be happening in this.
Speaker 2 (03:22:01):
You know, you'll know in the air, yeah, I mean
that's where the demons reside.
Speaker 3 (03:22:06):
And even so Paul even says, you know you will
know because things will be happening in that regard like
literally about the end. So everyone says, everyone always quotes
Christ saying you will know. No one will know the
day or the hour, but that doesn't mean that they won't.
You won't be able to discern your kind of your
place in your time. I think that's something which you
can't necessarily be like, this is the end Times, I know,
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but as a Christian you'll be able to sort of
discern that. Because again, for a Christian, whether it's the
end times or a certain type of the end times
doesn't matter, because your time's coming. You're gonna die or
you're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (03:22:37):
One of the last everybody everybody has those are.
Speaker 3 (03:22:40):
The only options. So whether you die because Jesus comes
back and your soul and body sort of stay acted
as opposed to everybody else, same results, you know what
I mean, it's the same.
Speaker 1 (03:22:53):
There's a there's an article, and I'm actually including these
in the second edition of Escot Logical Visions, which is
now over six hundred pages, and I've got to find
a cut off or else I'll just keep adding things.
Speaker 2 (03:23:05):
But I remember talking to you those two hundred it's
now yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23:11):
But there's a father Maximus Bovaris from Greece who wrote
a series of articles in twenty eleven that was one
was the response to those who claim that no one,
not even Christ as a man, knows when the Second
Coming will take place. And he does a really good
like exegesis about you know, the Holy Trinity is consubstantially inseparable,
(03:23:35):
and like does the sun not know? And kind of
like how this discussion was put forward, say, like you
know in Matthew twenty four and Luke twenty one, what
exactly does that mean? How would he not know when
these exactly when these events would take place, and and
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then you know, a certain amount of that is warning
us also to to look and be aware of the science.
He also wrote an article that an answer to those
that claim that the Lord comes as a thief in
the night, and and both of those kind of focus
on they're not in English yet. I mean they are
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in English, I have them in in our second edition.
But but basically that that this is in the same
way that the people listen to the prophets, like Daniel,
we should be listening to the profits of our time.
We should be out of you know, sheer respect of Christ,
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out of out of our own, you know, path to salvation.
We should we should be considering what what the saints
say about our salvation, but as well about about how
these things will come and take place, because we should
be paying attention to the geopolitics of the world. We
should be can considering the religious and spiritual implications of
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everything that takes place. Just like you know, when we
talk about it's easy to to say things that are
black and white, like you know, abortion or some of
these other positions that that the evil you know group
has as a focus and you know that they want
to put forward. But there are also a lot of
things that we see is perhaps irrelevant, like what's going
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on in Georgia. Well for them, you know, the modern
American most of them think you would be talking about
one of our states. And that's that's one of these
things that once you've become Orthodox, immediately worldview expands up ended,
your your you know, you you see the world in
a totally different lens. You start seeing the evils of
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the world as they are instead of just this hidden
agenda and all these things. It's like, no, no, it's
not hidden. It's it's very open. And they tell you
exactly what they want you to believe or think, and
and how how evil and demonic all of these all
of these things are. And then your own your own
path to this and then eventually with the help of
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your own spiritual father as you as you're in the church,
and and and you know, that's a that's another piece
where you you have to have discernment because there's a
lot of discussions like this that you probably can't have
at your parish. You know, they're just people aren't minded
to focus on this, and a lot of people, both
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clergy and otherwise, say, don't talk about it, and and
that's a part of this. You know, everyone's at a
different place in their journey and and everyone comes into
the church with a different attitude and with a different understanding. Again,
like we said a million times, this isn't for everyone,
but there is a certain point of view that if
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we're listening, if we're reading the lives of the saints,
we need to be aware of what they're saying about
our life. Right.
Speaker 2 (03:26:55):
Niktarios throws in five dollars, says, how do we prepare
ourselves and our loved ones for World War three in America?
I understand spiritual prep, but I mean surviving.
Speaker 1 (03:27:06):
You know, Patrick, we've talked about this and maybe this
will be something that that can come into fruition that
people are interested. My my background lends to a very
specific type of training for you know, physical preparedness and
preparing yourself in every possible way, not quite you know,
(03:27:26):
the cliche of being a prepper, but learning all the
techic not just like the tactical skills that you'll need,
but but like I mean like technically as in as
in being prepared for your family in case your your
your waters turned off, or you know, simple things like that,
and how you can deal with that. We've talked about
having a I've been calling it the trifecta, but having
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a course that talks about the theology, the eschatological theology
of the Orthodox Church, having a second course, which is
the spiritual preparation, and that being provided by a priest,
someone who's clergy. I've discussed this with my priest, and
perhaps it'll be something that he might provide, or we
may have multiple priests, or however we find, you know,
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people who are interested in providing that kind of education.
So you know, Patrick would handle theology, we'd have clergy
handle spiritual elements, and then I would be happy to
go through all of the physical preparedness. I've created a
framework for this which I've put into the vigil and
it's just a matter of timing and interest. If people
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are interested in this kind of thing, that we can
provide everything from you know, how to have secure communications
during some type of event where you can't have that,
to being able to provide purified or safe water for
your family and food things. So anyways, that is something
that we've discussed doing and hopefully that will come to fruition.
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Whatever your response to.
Speaker 2 (03:28:56):
That was, I mean it's essentially everything you're saying. The
goal is to become anti fragile, right, so look at
analyze your life, analyze your lifestyle, analyze the things that
you and your family are dependent upon, and then try
to make your existence as anti fragile as possible. Then
that's about the best you can do. But again, according
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to the saints, you know, the spiritual preparedness is really
the most important because God can have mercy on us
and can spare us. And just as Conrad talked about
with crossing yourself and praying over your food, like we're
pre model like this is a mystical reality. So don't
undersell the spiritual preparedness. And then in regards to the
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actual physical things and for your family it you know,
just look at all the prepper stuff, just analyze things online,
under you know, invest in you know, tactical capabilities, and
just try to make your life as anti fragile as possible.
And then you're going to be, you know, at least
two three steps ahead the average person.
Speaker 3 (03:30:01):
Well, I think merging, I would agree with everything, and
I'm no expert, you know, I think I'm pretty prepared.
I'll keep that to myself. But merging those two worlds,
you know, the spiritual and the physical preparedness. I think
people need to and I have no one to give
spiritual advice, So don't upend your life because of something
this idiot said. But you need to be I think
in a situation where I think you will have access
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to the sacraments stood your community, still need to take
certain actions. Meaning I think the obvious example should be
some you should probably be get in touch with people
that were doing the right thing during COVID. You know
that's a I think it's a coolagteristic because if things
are getting get worse and harder than that, you want
someone that's not going to be afraid to do the
liturgy if there's guns firing and any sort of thing
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going on. So whatever that means for you in your situation,
or you can do the easiest and some people may
have to be I mean, look, the prophecies talk about
some people are going to travel a very long time
to find a priest these sorts of things, right, But
if you can find a monastery or a parish, or
a priest or a hired priest or anybody who you
know will be able to serve you your family, your community
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in these times and will kind of stick with it
and pretty much understands the things we're talking about here.
I think that would go a long way. And I
know not a lot of people have that luxury. That's
less common than people might think.
Speaker 2 (03:31:16):
But but to your point, if people are like in
a position where they're able to move or like kind
of reground their life, any intentional Orthodox community, I mean
from the clergy that I've talked to, even private conversations,
they say like, if this stuff is beginning to take place,
be in a driveable distance from a monastery, and then
make sure you're in a good local parish. And that's
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like that movie.
Speaker 1 (03:31:40):
You could even go as simple as you know, say
say we have a run on supplies. Again, we all
know about the the toilet paper. You know, perhaps it
would be beneficial to stock up on olive oil and
non GMO flower or you know whatever other kinds of
things for your local pairs so that you have the
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resources to continue having the eucharism. You know, that's that's
something simple, But a lot of parishes are not considering that.
You know, maybe maybe like hey, I'm gonna go bob
a fifty pound bag of flour at Costco and we'll
you know, take that out, put in mile our bags,
put in a desk, in a large descant pack, and
it's basically good for you know, a long time. Or
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if you're even better, if you have a mill, you
can grind your own the actual flower kernels will last
much much longer than the already milled flower. So if
you have the ability to do those kinds of things,
and you know, or the person who's providing you know,
that service uh to to to make you know, pres
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war or some some other type of thing, I think
that that is probably beneficial, right.
Speaker 2 (03:32:55):
Or effing Epic throws in ten and says thanks for
your research and spreading the good word. Well, thank you
very much, effing Epic for the support. And Cody throws
in three dollars and ninety nine cent says, sounds like
the Cascadia subduction zone. I heard about that years before
I heard of orthodoxy in my early truth seeking days.
When I heard about the disaster and the prophecies, it
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immediately reminded me of it. I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (03:33:20):
Yeah, that's what that's what you were pointing out that.
Speaker 2 (03:33:22):
Right, Yeah, And Leo throws in four and says, how
can we as Americans have hope for the future if
ninety percent of us will perish? Well, you're all going
to perish at some point, and so be spirit if
you're in a good spiritual spot. What's the difference between
now and in the future and then.
Speaker 3 (03:33:42):
Of America's orthodox right, so spreading the word.
Speaker 2 (03:33:46):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:33:48):
There's also you know, I talked to a friend recently
and we're kind of discussing some of this about, you know,
the chaos in America and what may be coming, and
and it was kind of this, you know, a very
like I don't know the best way to call it,
but I would like lazy attitude towards oh, well, you know,
if this happens whatever, I'm you know, I don't even
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want to live through that or whatever. And I'm thinking,
but but you may have the opportunity to help someone
exactly you you who knows what that looks like. You
have You may have the resources right now to be
able to to help other people regardless of what happens
to you or us. It doesn't you know, in reality,
hopefully we have you know, recently confessed and and we're
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we we feel uh God's mercy, but it's also you
have a I feel like you have an obligation to
to to help, and whether that's people in your parish
or or however. And you know there's no reason to
be despondent, you know, have despair because that's that is
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the work of the of the evil One.
Speaker 2 (03:34:58):
Right, we got we got multiple questions now flowing in,
So let's hit him as directly as we can. Rohan says,
is there any rough timeframe for which the new Empire
will last before the rise of the Antichrist? And is
it a good idea to train small unit infantry tactics
in case the war or severe civil unrest comes close
(03:35:20):
That That is an escaton visual question.
Speaker 1 (03:35:23):
I think it's always good to train, regardless of what
your training consists of. I have a group of guys
we train. Actually, one of the ares, one of our chanters,
was here helping take care of some things in my house,
and he has a group that he trains with. We're
all kind of hoping to merge these kinds of groups
(03:35:45):
so that we can do our own training together. Yes,
I think I think there should be Orthodox guys who
are doing this. I think there's there's a couple out
there right now that are are kind of promoting it.
And and as people become Orthodox, I've seen a lot
of people in the I don't even know what you
call it, the two A community or whatever, start to
(03:36:06):
start to organize that. So absolutely I think all of
that should be organized. You know, I'm blessed to have
a priest who is ex military, so you know, he's
very open to that kind of thing. We have a
group of guys who maybe will have an Orthodox shooting
team here soon to go to some of these competitions.
That would be something that I would love to assemble
(03:36:27):
and put together. We have, you know obviously the Eskaton
Vigils of Faba one c. Three, So perhaps we could
reach out to some different brands and they could donate
some things to make that happen. So if anybody has
any leads on anything like that or is interested, and
please feel free to reach out.
Speaker 2 (03:36:45):
A non throws a generous forty dollars, thank you very much.
Whoever the anonymous donator is no question or comment. And
then here on YouTube we got multiple questions. I know
some of them are directly for Conrad in the Estan
vigil thank you very much Day for becoming a Codal
crew member. God bless you, and he throws in five dollars,
says can't catch this one live, but keep up the
(03:37:06):
great work, brother. Thank you very much. Dave really appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (03:37:08):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (03:37:10):
Jay Bennett became a new CODAL crew member. You're a
Knicks fan. I do hold that against you, but thank
you so much for becoming a Coldal crew member. Jay Bennett.
God bless you, brother and your family. David James Flood,
this is one that I knew that you guys were
going to want to address, says opinion on the al
Axa Mosque and the Third Temple. So I know we've talked,
(03:37:33):
or at least I've done streams talking about the red
heifers that they got from Texas last year. And I
believe the Eston Vigil and I were talking and there
was at least for the Jewish perspective, they have a
prophecy that the sacrifice of those have to occur under
a blood moon during sure, yeah, and that's going to
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occur for the next three years, so it could be
at least from their perspective, that's why they wanted to
get these red he half from Texas, is that they
anticipate they're going to be sacrificed in the next three years.
Speaker 1 (03:38:06):
Now. There's a lot of people who are following that,
and you can find some guys on YouTube who are
there in Shiloh who have gone and visited and seen
the red efforts. But I personally think that there'll be
a false flag to destroy it and they'll blame someone
Iran or otherwise. And if you're not familiar with the
Temple Institute and what they've done and how they've basically
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they have all these warehouses with all the materials ready
to go that they've continually updated, all the gold cladding,
all of these things, and basically they have all the drawings.
As soon as they have the permits, they're going to
put that thing up. I mean it yea.
Speaker 3 (03:38:42):
And groups affiliated with the Temple Institute, if you even
been involved in deceptive practices taking land, buying land from
Orthodox people, Armenian people in the Old City of Jerusalem,
I mean, I don't know if it was the Temple
Institute directly, but it was a group that had very
similar goals. I think I'm sure patriarch Iernaos denies involvement,
but that was why patriarch you're in NAO's form of
Patriarch of Jerusalem was deposed was because he was selling
(03:39:04):
land to them boys. And now you got spook father
John Claypool online talking about all that. That's all different story.
Speaker 1 (03:39:15):
But the.
Speaker 3 (03:39:17):
Yeah, this has always been a big, a big problem.
And the red heifer situation. Yeah, I mean you'll hear
average kind of Christian, non Christian Muslims talking about this.
It was a big deal when the heifers were sent
over there. I remember when that happened. I remember Cassie
Dylan now known as Cassie Akiva, you know for Bailey Wire.
She was like taking pictures with the red heifers. I'm like,
these people have lost the plot, man. Yeah, I don't
(03:39:39):
like the people don't realize that, you know, the the
whole you know, the Holocaust racket has kind of expired
at this point and you're on You're you're cashing in
that worthless currency on this kind of stuff. People are
just looking at you, like why are you taking pictures
with these cows? But the as far as when it happens,
I agree with Eschaton Vigil that the Israelis could blow
(03:39:59):
it up. To and say it was an Iranian strike,
you know, I mean there's very much it's not complicated
to see how that could go.
Speaker 2 (03:40:05):
Yep, absolutely, I think yeah, it could be any any
day and that'd be another sign that we didn't even
mention today. But and that's a whole side of this
Orthodox eschatology. Again we didn't really dive into. Is the
Jewish prophetic expectation of their eschatology regarding the coming of
their Messiah, and again how all of their plans relate
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in opposition to everything that really we discussed today, and
the Greater Israel project is a huge part of that well.
Speaker 3 (03:40:33):
And how the character that we're talking about us John
Vatatsas or potential future Russians are that is very clearly
the figure of our milis in the Jewish eschatology, who
is sort of like their Antichrist, basically like their anti
Antichrist is a Christian emperor that you know, slacks them
around and kicks the hat.
Speaker 2 (03:40:53):
H Payatio so thre than two dollars, says need to
have Conrad in Dmitri on Mora. Absolutely, I think you
guys do great work. I love to have you guys
on more.
Speaker 3 (03:41:01):
Thanks brother he's a real fan. That guy's a real hero.
Speaker 2 (03:41:05):
Okay, Well, shout out to you by UCOS. God bless
you and your family. Brother, thanks for the two bucks.
And Christopher Scott throws in five, no comment, Thank you
very much. Christopher Dernhan throws in five. I think that
whatever deal Trump's struck to get into office and not
get shot has to do with raising up a military
(03:41:26):
to support israel aspirations.
Speaker 3 (03:41:29):
Well, I mean Trump got two hundred and fifty million
dollars from Miriam Adel singing. You know what her price was.
It was West Bank Israel, And that is happening as
we speak. Twenty two new Jewish settlements approved just last week.
Speaker 2 (03:41:42):
Yeah. Frankie D throws in ten. Thank you very much, Frankie.
He says, what is World War Now's opinion about the
massive success of the Ukraine military as of recent I
wouldn't say it's a there are military is a massive success,
but in claims of Putin being a puppy of the
same masters who dictate Trump's moves.
Speaker 3 (03:42:03):
I don't know about massive military successes. Maybe some of
their operations have gone well with the drones and the missiles,
but on the front line they've been they've maybe get
for a year plus at this point, so I can't
tell you the last time they gained more than a
few thousand square feet in any recent massive way on
the front line. So I don't know about that. As
far as the Putin thing, Look, I've said for a
(03:42:24):
long time that when it comes down to it, the
Russians are gonna do what they're gonna do, not because
they're like super based and do the right thing. They're
going to be forced into kind of doing this. And
that's not to say that Russia isn't re emerging as
an orthodox civilization. I think that it is, and there's
many amazing things happening in Russia. I I've been there
very recently. I hope to go again very soon actually.
But I think Putin is I think a transitional figure.
(03:42:47):
I think if he you know, it's been almost a
decade since he was put on the bishop's throne, you know,
on Mount Athos, I think if he was going to
pick up that crown as where he probably would have
already started that. So I think the next figure we're
going to start to see discussions on, much like with Erdwan,
because Airedwan's comments about being the president and these things.
People think that he's going to establish, ironically re establish
(03:43:07):
a caliphate, a sultanate, that he might have a new
president come in and then declare himself this sort of
like supra democratic figure that will just be like a
ceremony like a head of state in a monarchists and
it kind of way. And you know, maybe that will
then lead to Russia doing the same kind of thing,
and how will this go? But I think in many ways,
(03:43:28):
the current I mean, even looking at the current succession
situation with the monarchists movement on Russia, the fact that
Putin hasn't taken an active interest in the monarchist movement
in Russia. Frankly, even in his own succession, Like, I
think he's at this point starting to make a mistake,
not publicly sort of having it known who is going
to be the next person to take power in Russia.
He's unfortunately creating the atmosphere for a dangerous power vacuum
(03:43:50):
and maybe that will be what needs to happen for
a monarchical figure to rise up or behind the scenes,
Putin is thinking about this more deeply than we would imagine.
But when it comes to Putin, relations, specifically with Muslims
and Jews. I'm very critical. I mean, look, when Putin
is very similar to Trump, I would say Putin is
pretty much Trump in a more right wing Orthodox country.
So the baseline is a bit better, but it's pretty
(03:44:13):
much the same game. He's got Beryl Lazar, he's got
his own rabbi, he's literally called I mean, he's Iran
is probably their second or probably their third closest out
military ally after Belarus and North Korea, and they're actively
working with Israel to make sure Israel doesn't get destroyed
in the face of the Iranian aggression. So there's a
(03:44:33):
lot of work I think that needs to be done
on the Russian perspective to get fully like on side.
But as this, when I say civilization, part of what
I say by that is that they are they are
sort of destined to They have a destiny that will
be fulfilled, and it's even someone like Putin is pretty
much incapable of stopping.
Speaker 2 (03:44:50):
It right and kind of what you're hinting at again,
and I'm not as well versed in Russian politics as
you were, Dimitri, but this whole thing about Putin being
like this radical, uh, you know, almost tyrannical czar. He
is a moderate from what I can tell when I
look at the people in Russian politics and kind of
(03:45:11):
the general ethos and and tone and temper of some
of the other politicians is like he's actually holding back
much more right wing views and perspectives. And so to
your point, I've been thinking diving into this that it's
not it's not Putin who's going to be, you know,
the Russian leader. It's going to be somebody. It's gonna
be the next person. I assume they're going to be
(03:45:31):
much more right wing than he currently is.
Speaker 3 (03:45:35):
So that people talk about these different successors, you know books,
I've read a lot of people because you know, Constantine
Malafeyev a friend of mine. Actually he his guy of
his choice is Grand Duke George, you know Romanov, and
he's sort of a lot of people say is the
main guy. But Dmitri and I are going to do
a bigger exploration of this. Dmitrio say, you know Karl
amik Lin, who's a German Man. He actually has a
(03:45:57):
better claim than than Grand Duke George, and is Karl
amik He was supported by Andre Bukov, who was the
leader of a monarchist party in Russia, but they're a
constitutional monarchist party. So there's disputes between there's people that
want a constitutional monarchy, the's people that are just sticking
to the absolute monarchy that are much more clued in.
But I mean, this Karl Amic character is very interesting.
He was a German prince who in twenty thirteen, this
(03:46:19):
Russian guy approaches him and is like, hey, man, if
you convert to Orthodoxy, you're actually the rightful heir of
the Russian throne. And this guy's like, really, that's awesome.
So he converted Orthodoxy and he actually is you know.
So this guy and then I mean, someone that we've
been wanted to have on the show for the longest
time is Gabriel DeRos, the great great, great, great great
great great grandson of Nicholas, Emperor Nicholas the First, who
(03:46:39):
served on the front line for in Dunbas from twenty
fourteen all the way up until sometime in twenty twenty
four when he finally, you know, retired from his military
service during the SMO, you know, and somebody like that.
I've heard from people in Russia, other people, very well
known monarchist academics, people plugged in. They say that it
will be a sort of unknown military figure actually that
(03:47:01):
will rise up, and they may have some kind of
tangential Romanov connection, but it won't necessarily. People aren't super
autistic about the bloodline thing right now. They think it
might happen in a more organic kind of way. And
you know, someone like Gabriel Derotion, that'd be amazing because
he is completely on side. If you follow him on telegram,
he's extreme. He's literally just our guy. So that would
be great.
Speaker 2 (03:47:23):
Franki d throws in another five, Thank you very much.
Frankie said, DPA, did you make it to Montanica this year?
I did not. My buddy went and said it was great. Well,
I'm sure they had a wonderful time. Looked like I
saw some of the videos and photos. I'm sure they
had a great Montanica this year. So shout out to
Father Deacon and everybody went to Montanica. Twenty twenty five.
Rickovich throws in two says, does the Escaton Vigil need
(03:47:45):
help with translations? I could help.
Speaker 1 (03:47:49):
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Speaker 2 (03:48:00):
Go to the website and find the connect page.
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Yeah, there's there's a feedback link at the bottom of
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I'll be happy to utilize any on anything that anyone's
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Speaker 2 (03:48:17):
Unlikable douchebag throws in five says, not gonna lie. I'm
looking at an icon of Saint John, the Marble King,
and he bears a resemblance to our beloved father. Peter
blackout loud bless interesting. Thanks for the five bucks?
Speaker 3 (03:48:30):
Are you insulting father Saint John's beard? That's the father.
Speaker 2 (03:48:37):
Frankie throws and ten morrises. I saw an orthoprophecy about
the West Coast and East Coast suffering massively during all this.
I know Cali is on the San Andreas fault, Washington
is on the Cascadia fault. Massive tsunami to go inland. Yeah,
we kind of hit on that. You guys have anything,
I mean from my I mean it's elder e from
(03:48:57):
that made the comment that New York in LA. I
think LA with Sodom and New York was Gomora. So yeah,
from what I've heard, and you guys can I if
you guys, correct me if I'm wrong. But it's the
it's the coasts of the United States. They are going
to be affected the most. The heartland of America, where
(03:49:18):
again more conservative traditional people reside, will be spared to
some degree. Everybody's going to be affected. Everybody's going to
be affected.
Speaker 3 (03:49:26):
We'll look at elder friends monasteries. He doesn't have any
on the coasts themselves. He's got Life Giving Spring, which
is in the Sierra Nevada, as they say that will
get completely surrounded by water. You've got the one up
in Goldendale, Saint John the Forerunner, which is in Yakima,
which is in the Cascades in some capacities, so we
could isn't you know, all the way out there. And
then his East Coast monasteries. I think the one that's
(03:49:46):
closest to the ocean would probably be Paneghie of lach
Rend in Florida, which isn't on the coast in Florida,
it's more in central Florida, or Saint Niktarios up in
New York. And none of these are, you know, on
the coast. So if you want to draw a map,
if that's what you're worried, about me. Maybe that can
be your outline.
Speaker 2 (03:50:01):
That's a really good point. Frankie de throws and five
more and says it said that west of the I
five will be devastated by the earthquake. A lot of
goods go through the Port of Tacoma. Stuff like that
can bog down military.
Speaker 1 (03:50:18):
I think if we had any type of major geologic event.
You know, something that we have in Tennessee is the
New Madrid fault near the Mississippi, and that's one of
the mission sets of our team, of which is the
Tennessee version of FEMA, our state level emergency management agency.
(03:50:39):
That's one of their mission sets is I think their
third mission set is disruptions or otherwise if anything happened
to the New Madrid fault, and we don't really have
a reference point for what that would look like. We've
had several earthquakes there. But if you could imagine if
all the bridges or a number of bridges were taken out,
(03:51:01):
basically all of all of the transport for any type
of goods would be prevented from going, you know, from
from the east to the west. And you know that's
a massive issue. And of course we have lots of
flooding and other things that that would would affect all
of that area pretty it would be a pretty substantial issue.
(03:51:22):
And that's just here locally, you know, in a place
that didn't have earthquake, is not earthquake prone. You know,
there are earthquakes every day and on the East and
West coast in different places, and so you know, that
would absolutely destroy any type of goods and services. And
so then again we get back to what should you
keep on hand, and you know, obviously toilet paper, uh,
(03:51:44):
and then you know, maybe enough to to to provide
for the eucharis.
Speaker 2 (03:51:50):
Yeah, Rebel Umbrion throws intent says, I like to think
Elder e Fhraim's statement about the sea reaching Saint Anthony's
means that many people will be becoming to Orthodoxy, since
the sea is sometimes used to represent humanity, God willing.
Speaker 3 (03:52:07):
Well, well, there's some truth to that in the sense
that So there's Saint Anthony's monastery in Arizona. There's also Sat.
Paisius monasteriumed after Sant Paisi's Villashkovski, which is a few
hours southeast of Saint Anthony's. It's under ro Corps, but
it's still one of elder friends, you know, so spiritual lineage.
They're also very much connected to Saint Anthony's. It's very
much like the Women's Monastery to St. Anthony's Men's Monastery
(03:52:29):
in a lot of ways. But they're very big, Like
they built some very big accommodations and big churches and
things there, and it was because Elderfrem told them that
build big because people are going to be coming here
and you're gonna need all the space you can because
there's going to be a monastic revival. So I think
in the sense that there will be waters surrounding you know,
California and the coast, that'll be true within it's Saint
Anthony's itself, I think. I mean, it's already experiencing a surge.
(03:52:50):
It's the biggest Orthodox monastery in America.
Speaker 2 (03:52:52):
Right, Jonathan Kelly throws in twenty says, missing out on
this epic crossover episode because I'm still working, shaking my head.
God bless all, well, God bless you, Jonathan. Thank you
for the generous twenty dollars super chat.
Speaker 3 (03:53:06):
Jonathan's a real world war now patriot, one of our biggest,
one of our biggest fans, So.
Speaker 2 (03:53:11):
Thanks John shout out to you. Jonathan Inky throws in
five says the work you guys put into research for
this as immaculate God grant you all many years. Thank
you very much, Inky. Bill Hicks throws in five from
down under. Very interesting discussion. Let us always put God
first and never fall into spare God, Bless God, Bless you,
(03:53:32):
Bill Hicks. And Bitter Clinger throws in two says for
the cause, Thank you very much, Bitter Clinger. And then
Solomon for five says what's the correct view on the draft?
My gut has always been to not participate and be
used like a pond? Am I wrong? No? I don't
think you're wrong. I mean, would you want to die
(03:53:53):
for the military industrial complex? I'm not too interested myself. So,
but are they gonna use the draft?
Speaker 1 (03:54:01):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (03:54:03):
Not sure? What are your guys' thoughts on the draft?
Speaker 1 (03:54:06):
You think that there is something to be You know,
there is a spiritual relevance to being somewhat nationalist and
in the sense of fighting for your country and in
your in your homeland, and you know that is there
is some relevance there. But also when you become aware
of certain things, there's a balance because now you know
(03:54:26):
what what the supports and where that's grounded versus you know,
is this grounded in something for my nation or is
this grounded in some other ulterior motive from you know,
a very specific group. You kind of have to make
those make those decisions. And but your you know, salvation
is not at stake because you had to serve in
(03:54:48):
one place or another or anything like that. That that's
exclusively you know, yours and with or without participation in
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (03:54:58):
Yeah, somebody asked us this on our recent Q and
A episode that you can watch on our substack, and
I answer basically, I mean, look what's going on in Ukraine? Like,
obviously I think Ukraine at this point is are there
the bad guys? As Orthodox people, we kind of have
to definitively say that. Does that mean every Ukrainian soldier
is a bad guy? Obviously not. And look at the
draft situation there. If you can, should you avoid fighting?
(03:55:19):
You should just do that for your own safety, like
put even aside, you know, if hurting other people, the
morality of it, you should just not go there for
your own self interest. And then look, let's say you
get forcibly mobilized like some clergy have you are going
to be presented with opportunities for heroism and selflessness and
the ability to lay down your life for your fellow man,
(03:55:41):
even if at a certain level maybe you're tangentially helping
a cause that is bad. They literally forced you out there,
So whether that's on the table, whether you're pressured, you know,
maybe you go because you know you're gonna get forcibly
conscripted anyway. Yeah, Like as Katan Vigil said, your salvation
is not at risk. However, I think the more aware
you are of these things, I think the higher your
responsibility is to try to not get yourself in that situation. Right.
Speaker 2 (03:56:03):
Austin Detulio shout out to you, brother, thanks for all
the support. Throws In twenty bucks says, smash the goal,
Thank you so much. Austin Fernando throws In twenty says
I was just received Holy Saturday, Glory to God. Brother,
welcome home. This is very worrying as I'm in South
Cali and there's so many Orthodox here. I'm hopeful we
(03:56:23):
may be spared, but I will attend the monasteries here
and that God may grant me repentance. Yeah, well, don't
have fear, but yeah, just do your best. Like we said,
you're clearly newly received, so you know, don't focus on
this stuff so much per se. If it kind of
gives you anxiety or it makes you worry in any way,
(03:56:46):
just have faith in God and do the best you can.
Speaker 3 (03:56:49):
Praying for us and everybody. Because you're newly received, your
prayers are true right now, so focus on that.
Speaker 1 (03:56:56):
I'll give it a shout out to Father Elijah of
the All Saints Orthodox Mission and Lodi, So if you're
in Soko, reach out to him. They are fully aware
of all of this.
Speaker 2 (03:57:12):
There you go, say that one more time, just in
case they just missed it.
Speaker 1 (03:57:16):
Yeah, that's All Saints Orthodox Mission in Lodi.
Speaker 2 (03:57:20):
Father Elijah Patios throws in ten says, I'm not scared.
I'm grateful that God has given us the opportunities to
become saints. May Christ have mercy on this. The prophecies
being fulfilled can only bring about good things. That's true.
That's another great way to look at it is this
is a course correction by God and this should be
something to be warmly embraced. A prodigal throws in five, says,
(03:57:46):
will the future defeat of Russia be the completion of
the third Roman history, just like fourteen fifty three was
the completion of the second.
Speaker 3 (03:57:56):
I think the very idea of whether it will be
we will be a defeat or not is even still
up for. That's still sort of up to that's that's
sort of in the realm of repentance and how well
we do on that question. So I think that's one
of those things we're definitely going to have to wait
and see.
Speaker 2 (03:58:11):
Bitter Clinger throws in five, says Dph. Do you Eskaton
vigil or Conrad attach any significance to the earthquake that
damaged the monasteries on Mount Athos recently?
Speaker 3 (03:58:23):
Well, I know that I was at Sarah Potamu Monastery
when one of the big ones hit semi recently, and
it scared the poop out of me. I was laying
in bed and the whole frickin building started shaking. So
the next day at the service, we did a we
had a whole prayer setting, a whole fifteen minute prayer
for against earthquakes while we were at the service. And
(03:58:43):
I know a lot of the prophecies talked about earthquakes
are going to increase. I mean, like Eskaton Vigil mentioned earlier.
Athos is technically supposed to sink into the ocean at
some point, So we're going to see how that goes,
depending on certain contingent factors, probably, But there's I mean,
there's even prophecies of dragon find little dragons, flying lizards
emerging from the forest, all sorts of amazing things. But
(03:59:06):
if you visit metropolitan the Oofitos and every Chew, which
is the where the metropolis of Morfu is sort of
in exile because Morphu is on the Turkish side of
the Cypress Northern Cypress divide. He has all these stickers
on all the load bearing walls, and it's it's based
like Christ is with us stand or like Christ stands
with Us basically translated in Greece. And he has these
(03:59:28):
stickers up apparently it's from John Chrisostom and he puts
these all over his wall. So if you're worried about
earthquakes or any of these sorts of things, like the
question or earlier in southern California, that's something to worry about.
You know, maybe print some things out and put that,
put that on your wall.
Speaker 2 (03:59:42):
That's a great point. Chris throws in five, she says,
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The information is very much appreciated. God bless each of you. Yeah, major, again,
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very much, Kyle, and again thank you, Chris and Sentient
Sandwich throws in five says just a news update Fox
News claiming satellite imagery just picked up previously unknown Iranian
(04:00:26):
nuclear facility. I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3 (04:00:30):
Yeah, Fox News would report on anything that would you'll
just move the to a certain direction exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:00:37):
They're they're, oh my gosh, the coverage has been just atrocious.
And then that looks like the last one is anonymous,
Uh says is there anything said about what will happen
to England at all? I fear for my family and
friends here. I think England's apocalypse has already happened.
Speaker 1 (04:00:55):
There is you know, like I mentioned earlier, the anonymous
prophecy to fifty three mentions England will be for the
Saxons only you know what God willing. Yeah, what exactly means?
You know, we kind of look at it and say,
maybe that's them leaving me to you. But that's the
only thing I can think of off the top of
my head.
Speaker 3 (04:01:16):
Well, and there's prophecies at least in France about the
ethnic situation getting so bad to where you know, the
counter reaction by the Europeans, by the Ethno nationalists is
so brutal against the immigrants. You know, maybe that's maybe
something like that occurs in England as well. And then
there's also the prophecies about how England will be on
the path of destruction, but they'll be saved due to
certain enthroned women, which I know Escaton Vigil probably has
(04:01:38):
the the actual citation on that, and Dimitri and I
have interpreted that a few different ways. We thought that
that could even mean the romanov of royal martyrs, the
Grand duchesses and Saint Anastasia and Saint Olga and Saint
you know, Czarena Alexandra, because they have many connections to
the British and the royals there that perhaps them in
heaven praying for you know, the Anglo Saxons, that might
(04:01:58):
be what saves them from you know, final perdition prodigals.
Speaker 2 (04:02:02):
Talking about that, says King Edward. The Confessor's prophecy about
the tree being set back on the stump aka returning
to Orthodoxy could be I know, and at least an
optimistic note is I've got some friends in Ireland and
according to them, their recent converts, it was a husband
and wife. They were saying that Orthodoxy is the fastest
(04:02:24):
grow I mean outside the immigrants, but the fastest growing
religion in Ireland, that so many Roman Catholics are converting
to Orthodoxy, and that their perishes are filled.
Speaker 3 (04:02:32):
So well in I don't even know if in whose defense,
but you know, we have our own immigrant population. A
lot of Romanians move to these places, so we have
that going for us as well, which is also something
that's prophesied, these Romanians being dispersed and then Romania being
occupied by Hungary and Serbia and these other places. So
it's all it all comes back to all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:02:54):
Right, and then the last one, Uriel throws in five
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that everyone has has poured out regarding the books. And
if there's anything in particular that people are looking for,
please reach out using that feedback form and and you know,
(04:05:20):
let me know what that is. Hopefully we'll have some
more things available. I plan on releasing several things for free,
just like you know, the Saint Cosmos prophecies as well
as I think we'll probably release the Blessed. I can
found Gelo's prophecies. It's a little too small to make
it into a book, you know, but it makes for
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a nice chapter and something larger than we might put
together later. So and we have a members group where
we meet once a month and potentially more if people
are interested, and you can sign up there. It's available
on the website and you can have access to all
the prophecies everything. Patrick's done a video showing them back
end of everything, and I try to try to keep
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that up to date. There are some things that I
always need to add more and I'll try to provide
as much as as available, And if anybody's interested in
having the book shipped overseas right now, you can only
buy and ship in the US. If you're interested in overseas,
reach out. I believe I've shipped most of the requests.
(04:06:22):
I've got a few more left, but I do have
a new shipper so that it's much more affordable. If
if you're interested, please reach out again with that feedback
form and and I'll see what we can do.
Speaker 2 (04:06:34):
All right, Well, thank you guys again for joining today
and giving your incredible insight regarding Orthodox prophecies and in
the events that, as Conrad highlighted earlier, literally unfolding as
we speak. And I'm sure more news will come out
tonight regarding the US involvement in this the escalation of
the Israel Iron conflict. So thank you guys. Smash that like,
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and I will actually I won't be back. I'm heading
to the Whatever podcast this week, so I will be
doing a debate Saturday on with a girl that believes
in determinism, so I'll be debating in favor of free will,
and then I'll do the dating panel on Sunday so
you guys will see me there, but I won't be
able to do any more streams until sometime next week,
(04:07:15):
so I'll see you guys then. Thank you all for
the support. God bless you guys, and as always, until
next time, God bless Thanks Patrick, Thanks