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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Long for Truth podcast. I'm Robin Long.
Join my husband Dan and I as we explore the
roots of the early Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, and we
shine a light on false doctrines and false teachers in
the modern church. Let's get started.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Larry Sparks here, welcome, Destiny, Image, Prophetic.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And the Joy.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
How we all watching.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I want a treat to have these different prophets and
prophetic voices. Any of you just having words of knowledge,
deise anything that the Lord is saying to you.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Guys, there's someone and someone and you're burning right here
in your chest and God is healing you of whatever
has been going.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
On in your lungs. You are going to start bathing
solutely freely.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Pastor Joe, just pray, pray as you're led and directed
right now, come on, those who are watching.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
Thank you Lord Jesus. I see someone with the damage
in your tailbone.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Your tailbone is being completely restored.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We're just going with the flow. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
There's somebody and you have tangling.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Tangling, We say, Holy Spirit, would you move in a
mighty way. We ask for the spirit of prophecy to fall.
God cannot American.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
As your voice.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
But I thank you that each of these vessels is
stewarding a word. May it be released.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
I hear the Spirit saying, ha, paw paw.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And Father, may blueprints be released to the body of
Christ to build in the days ahead.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
You sure you are here?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You are here?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
You sure?
Speaker 7 (01:58):
I feel so of your speech.
Speaker 8 (02:01):
The Lord says, you think you're ready, But the Lord
says you haven't seen anything yet. You think you're ready,
but I'm gonna blow your mind.
Speaker 9 (02:12):
Would you stand, please, and let's pray tonight, Lord, at
the word of the Holy Spirit. We convene the King's Ecclesia,
Holy Spirit leading guide every thought word. Indeed, tie our lips,
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our tongue to your heart. We want to hear from you.
Our King said that we were to hear what you
were saying to the church. We are listening tonight. We
asked that the heavens would be opened, and you, as
Lord Sabbi Oath, would release the angel armies to patrol
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on their assignments. On this night, Angel armies be loosed
in Jesus' name to protect the words and also to
carry them forth into the world. We bind any effort
of Hell that wants to with stand anything. You are nothing.
We have superior authority, and in Jesus' name we declare,
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you don't have a weapon that's going to prosper here
heavens be opened, no obstacles. In Jesus' name we declare,
Kingdom Come.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
We have God.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Hello, everyone, welcome along for truth. My name is Daniel Long,
and sitting next to me is my lovely wife Robin.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hi. Everyone, we have.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
A prophetic mess for you today. We have been diving
in the prophetic this week. We have been slashing around
in the.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Pool of prophecy, swallowing in muck. And you are going
to do it too, whether you want it or not.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
With us, we have been examining, watching, crying over, weeping
over to two videos. Two videos. Right, yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
In February, in the beginning of February, there was a
prophetic summit at Oasis Church, which is tim Sheets Church,
who you just saw with the opening prayer. As you know,
he is the angel Whisper written four books about angels,
says God has just spent years revealing things about angels
to him that he feels the need to share with us.
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The second event was a prophetic Counsel. That happened a
couple of weeks after that, and that was hosted by
Larry Sparks of Destiny Image.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Yeah. So in the summit we had Tim Sheets, Dutch Sheets.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We had no Dutch at the Prophetic at the Prophetic.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
The Prophetic Summit, we had Dutch Tim, we Hadkooneman, we
had the two Hammonds, yep, the Hammonds. So that was
a big deal. And that was hosted Tim Sheets Church.
And then the who do we have on the council.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
The council we had Larry, Tim was there again, Troy Brewers,
Glen Dideo, Joseph Z. Yeah. It was quite a yeah, quite.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
A group, quite a group of prophets.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm gonna be sharing a lot of prophetic information with
you today.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Yes, and we have done, by the way, lots of
videos on the prophets, and the probably the one that's
that that explains what the prophets believe the most would
be our our nar video series where we uh the
profits of the false prophets, the false prophets of the
n R. Yeah, so we'll put a link to these
videos in the YouTube description. But these prophets, folks, they
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believe that they have God's message for the church today.
They not the Bible. Okay, the Bible doesn't have the
message for the church. Not No, No, it's the modern
day prophets that have a the the message God is
speaking to the church today.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Right. And as we watch these clips, you'll notice that
they refer to the Bible frequently, but I very rarely
see the Bible as foundational to their beliefs. Their beliefs are, Oh,
I I heard thunder in my dreams, and I found
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a song that says the voice of the God of
God thunder. So they use it as kind of evidence.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh, this backs up when I'm saying I heard from
God yesterday.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
So before we dive in, there is a passage of
scripture that I think is so applicable to these modern
day false prophets.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Jeremiah twenty three, twenty one, and twenty two. I did
not send the prophets, yet they ran. I did not
speak to them, yet they prophesied. But if they had
stood in my council, then they would have proclaimed my
words to me my people, and they would have turned
them from their evil way and from the evil of
their deeds.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Now, yeah, that is that is an applicable verse today,
because folks, these men and women are not genuine prophets.
We have covered these people almost. I think there might
be one or two. Two's a couple that I haven't
seen before, but most of them we have covered in
other videos.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Right, So we're going to go through a bunch of
clips and tell you a little bit about what the
profets are claiming or doing, or what a modern prophet
is supposed to be doing. The first thing is they
say God doesn't do anything without telling his prophets. Now,
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Bill Hammond, if you're familiar with him, he is the
grand pooh Bab prophets hearing. He wrote a book, Prophets
and Personal Prophecy, God's Prophetic Voice Today, and they use
that almost as a foundational document for how, how, and
what they're supposed to be doing. In that book, he
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says nothing will take the church by surprise as long
as God's profits are alive and active in the church.
For surely the Lord God will do nothing. But he
revealeth his secret onto his servants. The prophets a miss
three seven.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
And folks, that is just a passage of scripture that's
always taken out of context. That does not refer to
the modern day prophets. It refers to the prophets of
Israel number one. And I love the way that these
prophets will go to old Testament passages and refer to
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old pet Testament passages all the time to back up
their claims. But when it comes to the warning passages
about false prophets and Deuteronomy chapters thirteen and eighteen, yeah,
they're just like, yeah, that doesn't apply to us.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Today, not that one, not that one, No, that one.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So apart from these two, this summit in the Council
that we watched, Chuck Pearce just put up a video
and let's see what he has to say about the prophetic.
Speaker 10 (09:12):
And when I got up this morning and the Lord
awakened me, there are moments in our life which I've
been teaching on, where all of a sudden he aligns
and speaks into the earth realm. To those who will listen,
Psalm's nineteen talks about his voices going out morning after
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morning and evening after evening on lines around the earth.
And see when you're in that moment place and time,
all of a sudden his word finds you. And I
know he communicates with each one of us differently, and
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he communicates different desires of his heart to each one
of us differently. But when he speaks, faith comes. And
Linda Heidler spoke on that last Sunday, so you can
watch that. It's amazing and faith cometh. And when that
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word connects with you, all of a sudden, your spirit
comes alive. And he's doing that to either have you decree,
because but he doesn't do anything without first selling the prophets.
So some prophet has to speak out into the earth
realm in agreement with that word, and he does it
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also to call us into a place of intercession based
upon what he's trying to accomplish. Now, intercession, I want
to remind you what it really is. It's where to
see that word is like a strike, a lightning strike
a god that she's teaches on it. But that word
then causes you to be able to stand between God
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and man, and stand between God man and the enemy,
the devil. And so when you're standing in that place,
you have great authority once you hear the word.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
And what word is he talking about there? And not
the word of God, not the Bible, the word of
the prophets.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
The word right. Yeah, interesting that he said some prophet
has to speak in alignment, in agreement, so that that
word comes to fruition.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Very interesting. And it's not when he said faith cometh
he's referring to the passage in Romans. I believe it's
in chapter ten that says faith comes by hearing and
hearing by the Word of Christ. But what that passage
is talking about is not the word of the prophets,
but the word of the Gospel. And that is that is,
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that is what is void in all of these prophetic
counsels and summits and all that. It's the Gospel is
absolutely null and void.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Nothing gets done without the prophets. That's what the prophets
will teach you. That's what Bill Hammond teach you. Chuck
Pierce basically just said it. For anything that God wants
to get done actually to happen, the prophets need to
press the start button, press the go button. So one
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of the things the prophets do frequently is they tell
us what God is saying. So let's listen to Joseph z.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
And so I believe the spear lords saying this to
all of us, especially those of you who are online.
I believe the Lord's saying, what do you want to do?
What do you want to do? As he is, so
are we in this world. We're with him, we're one
in spirit with him what we want to do. And
I think a lot of people just think, well, God's
just going to do what God's going to do. Well,
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that's not the truth. God's saying, I'm working in cooperation
with you, and if the church decides, Lord, let's go
win them. Let's get together and let's see. I'm sure
this thing. And I think the spirit of the Lord
will say, now you're speaking my language.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
You think that's what the spirit of the Lord will say,
Now you're speaking my language. Well, first of all, that's
what the Church has been called to do. We don't
need the prophets to tell us that we have the
great commission that tells us we're supposed to be out
winning the lost. But one of the things that you'll
hear throughout this which is extremely frightening, is how if
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you watch these both of these videos, is how often
they say, thus say it the Lord. But what's really
interesting about that is that they are big on Wayne
Grudam's book on prophecy, and Wayne Grudam is the one
that really kind of open the floodgates, open Pandora's box,
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so to speak, on all of the prophetic here, because
he's the one that tries to convince us in his books.
He's written two of them, actually and some papers. By
the way, he's written two books, and in those books
he's trying to conclude that false prophets can get it wrong.
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But what's interesting about this is what he says in
the introduction of his book. If you'll listen to what he.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Says, he states, I'm asking that charismatics go on using
the gift of prophecy, but that they stop calling it
a quote word from the Lord, simply because that label
makes it sound exactly like the Bible in authority and
leads too much misunderstanding.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
So he in that book, which was written in nineteen
eighty seven I believe eighty seven or eighty eight, he says,
I would love charismatics to stop saying, you know, this
is a word from the Lord, or thus saith the Lord,
and charismatics love Wayne Grudom. And as a matter of fact,
Larry Sparks has had Wayne Grudam on his show to
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talk about.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
His bringing on my special guest, doctor Wayne Grudam. So,
Doctor Grudham, thank you so much for joining me today.
People are familiar with obviously systematic theology. I actually, doctor Grudham,
got a copy of this book. Interestingly enough, at an
International House of Prayer one thing conference Mike Bikel was
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putting on. Oh yes, and I know they are extremely
celebratory of you. I got a copy of this book
and I have been indulging it ever since.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
They say how much they love the book, but yet
they're not doing what Wayne Grudam has suggested that they
do in the book.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
But Wayne Grudham does believe that the Lord is speaking
to them right.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
He believes. His whole idea is that prophecy is for
everyone in the New Testament Church, so not just the
prophets here, but prophecies for everyone, and that New Testament
prophecy is something that the Lord is bringing to mind,
and so it's mixed with human and Holy Spirit. So
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in other words, it's mixed with human error. So it's
got some of God in it and some of the
Holy Spirit, and so we're supposed to test and try
to sift through this. So we kind of have it
like a sifter. We're trying to sift the prophecy through
a sifter to see what comes from God and what doesn't.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So that would be more in line with the people
that say a sense that you should maybe do this,
or yeah, yeah, that's kind of a little bit of God,
but I'm not positive.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Yeah, but these prophets will refer to that book when
they have a false prophecy, or they'll refer to the
fact that, well, New Testament prophecy isn't the same as
Old Testament prophecy, which is what grudom Art tries to
argue in his books.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
So Danny Joseph Z says that God is saying, what
do you want to do? Well, I guess what you do?
You you let me know, and I'm on board basically,
And that's not really the idea we get from scripture.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Isn't oh no, and God isn't waiting on the Church
to release him into the earth or the prophets to
release his word into the earth.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
We just did a quick quick Google search on God's
sovereignty in the Proverbs because I happen to be listening
to Proverbs the other day and just all these verses
popped out to me, and in two seconds got these verses.
Proverbs sixteen thirty three. The lot is cast into the lap,
but it's every decision is from the Lord. Proverbs twenty
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one to one. The King's heart is a stream of
water in the hand of the Lord. He turns it
wherever he will Proverbs sixteen four. The Lord has made
everything for its purpose, even the wicked, for the day
of trouble Proverbs nineteen twenty one. Many are the plan
in the mind of a man, but it is the
purpose of the Lord that will stand Proverbs twenty twenty four.
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A man's steps are from the Lord. How can how
then can man understand his way? So back to telling
us what God is saying. We have tim sheets, and
Holy Spirit says.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
Holy Spirit says to the Ecclesia of Christ the King,
you will now advance into the most supernatural movement I
have ever led. I am anointing, fresh, blending and synergizing
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the purposes, plans and ministries of all previous movements to
intersect with Godhead plans now to activate in the earth
realm in a great reformation. That's how he set it
to me. Our reformation Reformation. They will merge and function
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with the New Purpos's plans and ministries for our supernatural
Kingdom era Heavenly Realm. Atmospheric spirit rivers have been rising
as rains of Heaven has swelled them for torrential flows
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throughout the Earth realm. It is an era when the
River of God begins its floodstage flows through the ecclasy
of hubs. Rushing, resourcing, refreshing, and replenishing. Waters to swim
in are flowing from Kingdom reservoirs fed by godhead Aquifers
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that will not run dry prepare to ride spirit rivers.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Wow Metaformnia. My head is swimming in that.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
I and see when I first was listened to that,
you know what picture went? And this is going to
tell you how old I am. But all I saw
as he's saying that is that is the cartoon Marine Boy.
Do you remember the cartoon from years ago? I think
it was like in the eighties, Marine Boy, and you
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got this little you know, he's a he's some kind
of like little superhero little boy. It's it's it's it's
just one of those things. But I just kept hearing
the song. Uh here it's it's marine boy in my
head is he's as he's talking about all of these
crazy aquab holy spirit rivers and what he's Wow, Yeah,
that was Chuck Pierce level stuff, buddy.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I'm gonna tell you that crazy ville. One of the
things I noticed, though, is their their use of these
particular catchphrases or words that they use over and over again.
And he had a bunch of them in here, advancing, blending, synergizing, intersecting.
You hear aligning a lot, activating, and of course the
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reformation or the Reformation. And then when he literally said,
listen to this heavenly realm, atmospheric spirit rivers, rising rains
of heaven, flood stage flows, rushing, refreshing, resourcing and replenishing
makes perfect since to me.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
Just swim in are flowing from Kingdom reservoirs fed by
godhead aquifers.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So anyway, we have one more to show you what
God is saying, and that is Joseph.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Z and the leaders who have thought they got away
with things because the ecclasia stood up. I hear the
spirits say saying, ha ha ha, you are being found out,
You're being confronted, and I am replacing you in Jesus's name, hallelujah.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah, ha ha. I'm sure that's what the Lord was saying.
I'm guessing that him and Kenneth Copeland got together and
both of them heard the Lord say that.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
One of the other things that the prophets are doing
is they are preparing us for Christ's return. You'll see
this a lot in Bill Hammond's book. You'll see it, Danny,
even when you talked about the Reformation. Their job is
to move us along to be prepared, the prepared bride
of Christ, so that Christ can return. Why don't we
look at something Bill Hammond says in his book, But
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now Christ is activating his prophets in the nineteen eighties
and his apostles in the nineteen nineties. Jesus is thrilled
at the thought that his prophets will soon be fully
recognized and accepted by his church. When this happens, it
will escalate the approach of the consummation of the ages.
It will accelerate the making ready of people for the
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Lord so that he can return. It is the prophesying
of the prophets that brings the church from a disorganized
valley of dry bones to a unified coming together with
growth and maturity until the Church arises as an exceeding,
great and mighty army of the Lord.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Okay, so yeah, this is all all of this is
new Apostolic Reformation teaching. So every single bit of this
and you and so when they talk about reformation, this
is what they're talking about. That's that's that's the area there,
all of this uh talk of bringing Christ back, and
you're gonna hear if you watch the Prophetic Summit and
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even in the Council there was talk about this, but
more so in the Prophetic Summit that there's going to
be this war and they have this warfare mentality because
they teach dominionism, which is what you know, the Southern
Mountain Mandates is about. Mandate is about which they talk
about in these both of these videos. So they're talking
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about war. They've got this just this warfare mentality. It's
and that's something that Jake Elliot and I talked about
when we did our video together.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So which is why they need the Angel armies. Yeah,
and the Angel man Tim Sheets talks about this as well.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
Also on the other hand, the Holy Spirit is rising
now he's been brooding over a move that's decades long,
and now he has taken hundreds, probably thousands of prophetic
words from the last maybe ten years profits of decree,
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and we've also moved into decrease. Fifteen to twenty years ago,
we didn't talk about decrease, but we've made millions of them.
And what's happening now, Holy Spirit is out of this
dark time. He is causing these prophetic words to intersect
their moment and it's all happening at once. He's synergizing
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the other moves together with it, so that this is
a supernatural era in which Holy Spirit then can take
his ecclesia that he's been preparing New Testament hubs and
through them pour out his spirit upon him in such
a way that we have a Kingdom revival, not a
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local church revival. In the past, we've enjoyed the revivals
for vantro of Brownsville. But this time you're not going
to have to drive a thousand miles to get in revival.
The ecclasy of hubs that he's been preparing, they're going
to flow in the dimensions of the Holy Spirit like
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we've not seen before. And so that's what I'm I'm
seeing and I believe that the greatest days in Church
history are not in our past, They're in our presence,
and they're in our future.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Millions of decrees. Now, I want you to think about something.
God's Word very strongly condemns the false prophets, and if
you read through Jeremiah, he has some very harsh words
to say against them. These people have done far more
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damage to the Church with their false prophecies and their
false teaching than the Old Testament or even some of
the or even some of the New Testament false prophets.
Because of the reach that these people have, they are
going all over the world. I mean literally, their reach
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is all over the world, and so they are going
to be held in so much They're just going to
be held in a much higher accountability on the day
of judgment than any Old Testament or New Testament falls
profit because of the reach that these men and women have,
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and that is a very frightening thing.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
It is so our brooding Holy Spirit is taking hundreds
or thousands of prophetic words, and I think this is
how they cover their base with prophetic words that may
not have come to fruition. Yet the Holy Spirit is
still brooding over them, working them in in the future,
so that all of those prophecies eventually will be fulfilled.
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You know, Bill Hammond says, Jesus is rejoicing with great
joy over the part the prophets are playing in preparing
his bride. When the prophets have finished their minute, he
will be released to descend from heaven with a shout
and be fully and eternally united with his bride. Twentieth
century Church prophets are very precious to Christ, for they
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are perfecting the bride he died to purchase the Church.
Christ says, woe to those who hinder his true prophets
from fulfilling their part in preparing his bride for presentation
to him in perfect purity and maturity. The Church bride
of Christ cannot be fully perfected without the full restoration
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of the ministry of the apostles and prophets.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
And they are referring to the Ephesians four eleven through
twelve passage which will read in a moment. But the Church,
as a matter of fact, why don't we just read
it now and then will comment on Sure, how about.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
That Ephesians four eleven and twelve, and he gave the apostles,
the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers to equip
the saints for the work of the ministry, for bill
up the body of Christ.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
So that's what he's talking about. He's talking about if
we hinder the prophets or you know, or the apostles
that you know, it's gonna we're going to be held
in judgment. But the truth is is that we don't
do that because the apostles that is being spoken of,
there is the New Testament apostles, the prophets that being spoken.
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They are the New Testament prophets that it's built on
the foundation. And by the way, the apostles are still
speaking the day we keep we say that, you know,
all the time. But where are they speaking is a question?
And what apostles are we talking about. We're talking about
the apostles of Scripture. The apostles are still speaking today,
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still proclaiming Christ. When we open up the Word and
we read it or it's preached. We do believe in
the apostles and prophets and that they are speaking, but
it is the scriptures that we are referring to when
we say that, you.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Know, Danny prophets also tell us. So we know that
prophets tell us what God is saying, but they also
tell us what God is doing. And here Jane Hammond
is going to share with us.
Speaker 8 (30:21):
For I brought you into a critical season in the earth.
It is a time of renaissance. Wow, a renaissance of righteousness.
It is a time of revolution, and is the time
of the reformers.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Where are my reformers? Oh?
Speaker 8 (30:46):
For the Lord says, in the old Renaissance period, they
cast off corrupt government, they put aside dead religion, and
they began to pave a new pathway into the future.
And the Lord says, in the old Renaissance they called
it enlightenment, and this renaissance they're gonna call it the awakening.
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For the Lord says that I'm releasing a renaissance.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Among my people.
Speaker 8 (31:12):
New creativity, new innovation, new technology, new out of the box,
thinking new things that you've not even imagined, that shaped
the course of nations. The Lord says, you think you're ready,
But the Lord says, you haven't seen anything yet. You
think you're ready, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Blow your mind. Oh.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
It is just so, it's amazing, crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
It just strikes you though, doesn't it. They don't talk
about the gospel at all.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
No, what is that's what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Right, it's all creativity and innovation for what purpose? To
what avail exactly? Not to share the gospel because they
don't do it. No, Like in these two I'm sorry,
in these two videos watched, they mentioned Jesus a few
times and one of them and I don't know if
this is correct or not. Rick Renner is in the council.
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He may have mentioned the gospel. He did mention how
much we need to elevate the word. But honestly, they
have some You're like, you see all these opportunities, it's like,
share the gospel there and they don't.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Yeah, and that is it is extremely amazing to me
that the scriptures are about Christ's that that is the
reason why we have the scriptures, from Genesis to Revelation,
they are about Christ. Christ even said that as he's
walking with the disciples on the road to Emmaeus, he said,
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it says that he explained to them from Moses all
the way to the through the prophets, that the scriptures
were about him. And you don't hear Christ being proclaimed.
It's all self elevation, it's all what God wants to
do for you and through you. It's miraculous signs and wonders.
That's what we're going to see, and that's what we
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need to see. But it's not about Christ and Him crucified.
You know what the theme of I'm you know, the
Book of eirstht Corinthians. I've been studying that recently and
the Book of First Corinthians. The theme of that book
is Christ in Him crucified. That's what Paul preached. That's
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what his whole message was, Christ in Him crucified. And
we don't hear about Christ hardly at all. You're right, Robin,
it's very Christ depleted.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
You know.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
It's it's just Jesus' name is mentioned though, right.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
It is mentioned. We do know that this is the
season of the R words. Anything that starts with an R.
Throw it in your message. Jane did it, and who
else did it earlier? Tim Sheets did it and really
our word heavy.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Yeah, we don't have I didn't put the clip in
the mix. I may drop it in. But one of
the things that you mentioned about Rick Reyner is it Renner,
Rick Renner, Rick Renner, is that he actually talks about
there needs to be a revival of the story.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
You know, I was just thinking about you because one
of the things that we've been talking about is a
word and spirit revival, that great word from Smith Wigglesworth.
And I'm just thinking right now you're putting together the
riv the Renner interpreted version of the Bible. I feel like,
what's going to happen? This is a word a vision
that the Lord gave me. We're stepping into a day
where pastors and preachers and teachers will simply be teaching
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the Word of God. And in the middle of that
atmosphere where there is expectation as they are teaching the word,
people will interrupt the service and say I just got
healed because the Word was confirmed with signs following. I
believe we are stepping into a Bible revival. There's going
to be a lancewall now called it the Feast of
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the Open Book.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
They don't they don't hold the Bible in high regard.
They don't believe that scripture is sufficient, and.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
They actually do say like there should be no prophecy
apart from the Word that isn't in keeping with the
Word of God.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
They do, but even so, even if like one of
the things I was when I was looking at Judish
this week. In his book, Judash talks about the fact
that even if a prophecy doesn't go against the word
of God, it still doesn't make it a true prophecy.
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And even if it's a prophecy claims some great thing
about Christ or says something wonderful about Christ, that doesn't
mean that it's a genuine prophecy or that God is
speaking King the prophet.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
That God's mouth, right, Yeah, So it's just yeah, boy,
so what else is God doing? Well? Tim Sheets and
our new favorite country song. I'm literally I want you
to write in your comments some lyrics to this song.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
The title of it is oil Rigs and Angels Watch.
Speaker 9 (36:13):
Four or five years ago, I had a very unique experiences,
as others are sharing. But I was driving through a
countryside and you know the a lot of times you'll
see an oil rig, you know, the boom goes down,
and there was a lot of them, and it morphed
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into something supernatural, a vision, and I was caught up.
I was driving along. It wasn't it was not an
oil rig that was going down and up. It was
an angel, and they were doing this, and I would
come to another one and it was like turned into
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an angel, and they were doing this. And I said,
Holy Spirit, what what is this? And I knew it
was him. The presence of the Lord and glory was
all over me. But it didn't make sense. And he said,
the angels are pumping the old healing wells, and they
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will be pumping new ones, and the voice of healing
will have well will rise again. Which is so I mean,
it's my heritage. My dad was a part of the
voice of healing, and soo those wells are right now
being pumped. It's why me and my brother and three
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others are are now doing healing summits.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
All right, whil rigs and angels, send us your lyrics.
Bill Hammond in his book says the prophets are especially
anointed to perceive what is next on God's agenda for restoration.
Then they lift their voices like trumpets to alert, enlighten,
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and charge the church to conquer that part of the
truth to be restored. At that time. The prophets are
the eyes of the body of Christ, the trumpeters in
the army of the Lord, to give a clear sound
revealing the desires of the commander in chief. So we
don't need the Bible, Danny.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
No, we don't need scripture, we need the prophets, according
to these guys. But yet again they will claim, like
Rick Renner, did, we need a revival of the Bible,
And we just you know, we just look at this,
Robin and I and I'm sure all of you as well,
look at this and are asking yourselves, well, if these
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guys are speaking for the Lord, then shouldn't what they
say be obey'd perfectly, just like you would obey the scriptures.
They are saying, Thus, as the Lord, they are saying,
the Holy Spirit says, Now, if God is speaking, and
if the you know, the Holy Spirit is is giving
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him their words, we have to obey. And it is
on par with scripture. As a matter of fact, when
you look at the prophetic summit, what do you see them?
They're they're reading these they've written down or they've typed
them up or whatever, these prophecies, and it's just, uh, yeah,
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it's just it's an elevation. They elevate themselves above scripture
that is idolatry to the highest degree.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
They tell us what God is saying, and they tell
us what God is doing. And if you've noticed, they
decree a lot. And here's tim sheets decreeing.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
Lord would decree. Yeah, the Lord, this will go to
the other level. You went about doing good and healing
all that were sick of the devil, that all were oppressed.
You took stripes on your back for our healing, and
you said, the same works that that you see me do,
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you can do also.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Lord.
Speaker 9 (40:19):
We just declare that that is also a part of
the synergizing of the movements. Yes, that healing wealth will
open in all fifty states in the nations of the world. Yes, Lord,
And that great healing power will come where incurable diseases
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are healed. Yes, we would even dare ask for creative
miracles God, or we want to see blind eyes open.
But we would dare ask that we would see some
eyeballs made. Yes, we would dare ask that in front
of this world you would show your power. You did
it before, Lord, you can do it again. And we
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believe we're in that supernatural era where you want to
show the world how much you care for them, how
much you love them, how much you want to heal him.
We pray to night. Lord, healing will go out right
now all over wherever they're watching. That healing power flow
to that one that feels hopeless tonight.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yes, Lord, show.
Speaker 9 (41:25):
Your power to heal. Lord, those that have got bad
news from the doctor, hear the good news of the
Lord Jesus Christ. Tonight. We believe in miracles. We believe
God wants you well. And so I agree with Larry
and and the others. Here, healing wells open, Yes, Jesus
go to a different level and new wells be opened. Yes, Lord,
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pray Lord that the voice of healing movement would rise
in a greater way than we saw in the forties
and the fifties. Yes, Lord, Lord, greater.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
So out of all the clips we've showed you and
we've looked at and the whole thing, I think this
one to me was the worst. It was horrible. The
good news the gospel to them is healing. It is
not the gospel of Jesus Christ. He actually what was
the one thing he said, Danny that I cringe every
time I hear it.
Speaker 6 (42:23):
We just know, Lord, you want to show the world
how much you love them, You want to heal them.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
That God has not already shown his love.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
By sending his only begotten son into the world to
live a perfect life in our place, and then to
go to the cross and then to bleed and die
and pay the penalty for our sins. The news that
everyone should hear, and even Christians need to continually hear
because we struggle with sin. And these guys are thinking
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that it's all about miraculous signs and wonders and healing,
and that's how Jesus wants to show is love. And
so yeah, this is this is a horrible, horrible, uh
clip and was just egregious.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
What good is a healed body if we have a
broken exactly?
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Bear it and we're going to hell exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Okay. So profits also, as you notice, spends some time instructing,
guiding the church, preparing the church. Bill Hammond says, the
prophet in fact has administrative authority. Church profits function in
all the ministries of the Old Testament prophecies as well
as the New Testament gift of the prophet, standing in
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the role of Christ the prophet, thus their prophecies flow
in the areas of guidance, instruction, rebuke, judgment, and revelation.
Whatever Christ chooses to speak for the purifying and perfecting
of his church. Troy Brewer talks about wandering star.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
There is a new move of God that has already
taken place that says is you have to reconcentrate. You
have to be reconcentrated to the Lord. And I think
one of the one of the ways Rick and I
were talking about spinning off in the Book of Jude
where it talks about, you know, wandering stars and how
that they spin off, and what happens is as their
annoying increases, that as their as their skill set increases,
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they do not reconcentrate, and they do not reorbit, and
then they spin off into the blackness of darkness forever
right on. And we've and we've all recognized that, and
we've seen that this is the day to day that
God says, I will bless your concentration. I will show up.
So I had this crazy thing. I know that everybody
here has got crazy things, but I had something to
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happen this year that was a little bit ridiculous. And
I know that Alan and Joseph know about it. But
we fast the first ten days of the year, and
I was, I have I have property, and I've got
to creek bed, and I've got a ranch, and I
was down there in the ranch at the back, and
I was seeking the Lord. It was a the fifth day. Okay,
this is the year of the five, right, it's the
twenty five, it's the year. It's where the decade of
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the pay. We're in the time of the hay and
we understand that speech. I'm sitting back there, minding my
own business, not really having the most awesome seek the
Lord time of my life. I was really just kind
of just being quiet because I was exhausted and I
was starving. And then boom, I heard this noise and
I thought, and it was a natural sound, and it
was this rock split. There was a giant rock. I've
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got all these boulders on my property and this rock
just split and it just split right down the middle.
And I thought, well, that's weird. Some kind of atmospheric
condition caused that to happen. Yes, Lord, please show up,
you know, yes, Lord, yes, Lord, And I still feel
the Holy Ghost from the moment of my heart and
I all of a sudden, rocks begin to split around me.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
And I busted out my phone and I started filming it.
And this rock split happened. It started up the creek
bed and it went cack, it a cack, and it
went past me, and the rock directly next to me,
which is bigger than this table, its split right down
the middle. And in that I heard the cadence, and
then I recognized there was a voice in it, and
it said, it said, triumph in the zeal of the Lord,
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in the cadence of the rocks splitting, triumph in the
zeal of the Lord. Our passion for Jesus right now
needs to be so high. We need to be so
triumphant in our zeal for the Lord right now. And
how we consecrate to him and say we're not afraid
to get holy, We're not afraid to get ridiculous, because
the spirit of the Lord is literally breaking the rocks.
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And that's you know, Psalms twenty nine, that's all these things.
You know that the voice of the Lord breaks the rocks.
Speaker 11 (46:39):
Right.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
So, Robin, when something incredible happens, what do people usually do?
They usually post it on social media?
Speaker 5 (46:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Where's the video, Troy?
Speaker 6 (46:48):
Yeah, I mean he's up there saying, you know, I'm
watching these rocks just split right in front of me.
You would think if that really happened, that he'd be like,
I told you this name. Look, yeah, I've filmed it
with my phone, but you know, I got of keeping
it to myself.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
But a good example of taking a passage about the
voice of the Lord making the rock split and creating
an event that proves that little passage.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
M hmm.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Yeah, you know, he mentioned Jude and it's so ironic,
it's just ironic. And he mentioned the wandering stars, and
Troy is a wandering star. He is the wandering star,
one of the wandering stars. All these guys are in this.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Passage Jude eleven through thirteen. Woe to them, for they
walked in the way of Cain and abandoned themselves for
the sake of the game to Balem's error, and perished.
In chorus the Rebellion, these are hidden reefs at your
love feasts, as they feast with you without fear. Shepherds
feeding themselves, waterless clouds, swept along by winds, fruitless trees.
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In late autumn, twice dead uprooted wild waves of the sea,
casting up the foam of their own shame. Wandering stars,
for whom the gloom of utter darkness has been reserved forever.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
The entire letter Epistle of Jude is written to combat
false teaching, to talk about false teachers, and to warn
against false teachers and false teaching. And so this verse
is another or this passage is another passage that fits
them to a tee.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Oh my, So we have Isaac Petrie and we're still
talking about how they prepare and instruct and guide the church.
Isaac Peatrie is going to talk about being in the heavenlies.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
We will see nations shaken come on, and it can
happen if we come together in the heavenly places. Therefore,
that's where decrees happen. They happen in the heavenly places
where we as the spiritual, recreated, newborn creatures of the
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Most High God. Jesus says, I now have all authority
in the heavens over principalities and powers. And I took
all that authority and handed it to us. So now
when we speak in the heavens, it will be on
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earth as it is in heaven. And I just decree
an awakening for those of you that have been timid,
because you've looked at yourself and said, I am not sufficient.
I don't know enough, nobody knows who I am, trusts
me in the realm of the spirit. You are known
because you are seated with Him in heavenly places. And
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no longer look at your natural identity and what you
have and who you know. You have now been made
an air of God. Open up your mouth in boldness
and watch the wills of angelic hosts start churning in
the heavens to move things in the earth realm. This
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is our time, this is our age, and we're going
to steward it for the glory of God.
Speaker 6 (50:13):
Come on, how is this not like the lie of
the garden? You will be like God. You It's even
it even goes beyond that. Because they are saying that
Christ gave all authority to us. Did it says all authority?
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Jesus told his disciples all authority and heaven and earth
has been given to me, not to you and I.
Because we are His body. We definitely are the body
of Christ. And yes, in God's eyes we are already
there in his mind. We are seated in the heavenlyes.
That does not mean that we have creative power or
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that we can be like God and speak things into existence.
This is a lie straight out of the pit of hell.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
It's terrible. In addition, when he's trying to encourage those
of us who are timid to be bold and speak,
we're not speaking the gospel. We're speaking to watch the
heavenly hosts churning in heaven because this is our time
and our place.
Speaker 6 (51:26):
It is U it is just this is and this
is folks, we told you you were going to wallow
in this with us.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
I hope you're suffering as much as we are, because
we are suffer Okay, right, So if you hadn't noticed already,
we're just going to bring this point home one more time.
And that is how much they take scriptures out of context,
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way too often. We have Alan DiDio.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
Because what we're seeing right now is the fulfillment of prophecy.
This cannot be overstated. When we look at Ezekiel thirty seven,
we're all familiar with the prophecy of the dry bones.
But after that prophecy, there's the prophecy of the two sticks,
where God tells the prophet take these two sticks representative
of two tribes, and I want you to bring these
two staves together. Yeah, that's powerful, and I believe what
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we're seeing right now with Noramedia. We're here gathered underneath
that umbrella where two sticks have come together. You've got
Harrison House and you have Destiny Image. You have the
prophetic community and the Word of Faith community that have
historically been separate, even mocked and criticized one another, and
now all of a sudden, they've all come together under
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the same house, speaking the same thing together. So I
think that the prophetic move that we're in, and I
think we've been here at NRB listening to all these
great men and women of God declare what they say
God is speaking. I keep hearing the same thing over
and over again. Reformation, reformation that America has seen revivals,
it's seen awakenings, but this is its first reformation.
Speaker 7 (53:04):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (53:04):
And I think it's directly correlated to the unity that's
taking place. We're in a Psalm one hundred and thirty
three moment, and it's not just those of us who
are the figureheads. It's everybody watching online.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (53:17):
They're sending us now that social media has democratized the
annoying in a sense where now the body can find
a voice they believe in all over the world, and
get behind it and they can send it as we're
watching online and it creases this kind of apostolic trail
blazing anointing that we're now seeing. And it's really not us,
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it's the voices that are behind us who hit share,
who hit like, by the way, if you haven't shared already, what's.
Speaker 5 (53:42):
The matter with you?
Speaker 4 (53:43):
And subscribe and subscribe and hit it comes up button.
So seriously, it's a core I think what we're witnessing
for the first time in a long time, because twenty
years ago tried getting these voices together in the spirit, word,
word and spirit coming together. And truly we're in a
we're in a Psalm one hundred thirty three moment where
God is commanding his blessing on this unity.
Speaker 6 (54:04):
Okay, so correct me if I'm wrong, Robin. But is
he saying what I think he's saying that Ezekiel thirty seven,
that that that the two sticks, Harrison House and Destiny
image is the fulfillment of Ezekiel thirty seven, That.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
The coming together of the Prophetic movement and the Word
of Faith movement is fulfilling the prophecy of Ezekiel thirty seven.
Speaker 6 (54:32):
Both are heretical so we know that's not the case.
But this what that's just that's mind boggling. It just
is it's like, wow, talk about blasphemy. I mean absolute
blasphemy Ezekiel thirty seven. You know that that's not that
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is not what that is referring to. It's not referring
And I understand that they would say, well, you know,
there's there's the the immediate prophecy, and then there's the
future prophecy that needs to be fulfilled, and that's I
guess that's what they would say. Theirs is exactly. So
it's just, yeah, it's absolute blasphemy. Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Put it in a pretty bad capitaly Okay, speaking of
pretty bad, let's go on and hear Tom Hammond takes
some scriptures out of context.
Speaker 11 (55:22):
Can you feel the anointing already? Can you feel the
God is gracing us with his presence. Let's just come
in agreement with that release of His Holy Spirit in
his presence. You know, I believe that we are living
in appointed times. It says Jesus did not come into
the earth until it was the right time, and I
believe we are living in some seasons of divine fulfillment.
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If we do the hard work of divine alignment, God's
gonna bring divine fulfillment in this season in the earth.
And so I want you to just lift up your
hearts toward Heaven. I love In Genesis twenty eight, it's
a picture of Jacob. And then God says, I love
Jacob because Jacob what I loved. He loved the prophetic promise,
the generational release, the land, the things that were the inheritance.
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And so God said, I love you, son. And the
Lord says, this season, even as I opened up the
heavens and a dream to Jacob, and I begin to say,
as I'm opening up this place, I want you to
look to see as the angels of God are going
to ascend and descend and begin to release even the
blessings that I want to bring. And even as you
made that decree that you said, oh God, you are
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awesome in this place, that you made even a release
of a decree to say this is Bethel, this is
the house of God, but this also is the gate
of Heaven. I hear the Lord's saying, sons and daughters
church of mine, understand, I'm beginning to align my people
to understand. Yes, we know how to be Bethel, the
House of God. But now there's a move of an
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awakening in the midst of the earth where I'm going
to cause many to understand my hand and understand that
I am causing churches and portals and places to be
the release of the Gate of Heaven. If that's her heart,
lift up your hands, Father, we decree that we're gonna
be gatekeepers. We're gonna be watchmen on the walls. We're
gonna know how to operate at the gate to bring
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the Kingdom into the earth, into the cities and the
nations that you have decreed must receive. Even in this hour,
I hear the Lord's saying, as it was in the
days of the early Church, that I am bringing the
beautiful gate anointing, the right time gate anointing.
Speaker 6 (57:32):
All right, So he said a bunch of nothing there,
except that he talked about Jacob and how much God
loved Jacob, and the reason why God loved Jacob. Why
do you say God loved Jacob.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
I love him because he loved what I love.
Speaker 6 (57:46):
Yeah, Well, the Bible says something different about why God
loved Jacob. Let's see what it says.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
Remens nine six through thirteen. But it is not as
though the word of God has failed. For not all
who are just sended from Israel belonged to Israel, and
not all our children of Abraham because they are his offspring.
But through Isaac shall your offspring be named. This means
that it is not the children of the flesh who
are the children of God, but the children of the
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promise are counted as offspring. For this is what the
Promise said about this time next year, I will return
and Sarah shall have a son. And not only so,
but also when Rebecca had conceived children by one man,
our forefather, Isaac, though they were not yet born and
had done nothing either good or bad, in order that
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God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works,
but because of him who calls. She was told the
older will serve the younger. As it is written, Jacob
I loved, but Esau I hated.
Speaker 6 (58:49):
So nothing in that passage about Jacob's works. There God
loved Jacob because he chose to love him. Jacob was
still in the room. Before the twins Jacob or Esau
had done anything good or bad. God had already chosen
and loved Jacob It had nothing to do with Jacob's
works or because he was so good or anything like that.
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It was all because God desired and decided to love Jacob.
So we're sorry we had well, actually we're not sorry
we had to put you through.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
We're sorry we had to go through it.
Speaker 6 (59:25):
But if you've watched to the end, yeah, you were
brave enough to do that, or we appreciate that. One
of the reasons we wanted to do this video is
just once again to just keep sounding the alarm, keep
warning that these people who claim to be prophets are
not prophets, and you should not be afraid of them.
They are teaching heretical doctrine. Their prophecies have been false.
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They speak words, empty words, and it's just they The
words don't even make any sense. It's just a bunch
of words salads. So you don't have to be afraid
of these people. They're not profit. If this video has
been helpful to you, we would greatly appreciate you passing
it along, giving it to somebody who might need it.
So Lord Willing, we'll see you next week. Thanks for watching.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Bye,