October 19, 2025 • 50 mins
Many deliverance ministers teach that “soul ties” create demonic bonds between people that must be broken — but is that really in the Bible? In this video, we show how this false doctrine twists Scripture and distracts from the true freedom believers have in Christ. Join us as we debunk soul ties with Scripture, discernment, and a little humor along the way.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Long for Truth podcast. I'm Robin Long.
Join my husband Dan and I as we explore the
roots of the early Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, and we
shine a light on false doctrines and false teachers in
the modern church. Let's get started.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I break that trauma off of you.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I speak to every trauma bond and I neagatize it.
I decree you're divorced from it. You are severed from it.
You are separated from it. And I command the trauma
that you're carrying in common with another person to come
out of your cells, out of the.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Cellular memory, out of your mind, out of your.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Will, out of your emotions, out of every part of you.
In the name of Jesus, I release the Holy Spirit
to heal you of that trauma and to dissolve that
trauma bond. It will not bond itself anymore to your mind,
to your body, to any part of your being.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
In the name of gen Jesus.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Now now, now, in Jesus' name, now Father, thank you Lord.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
See the devil is not just after you, know, hijacking
your spiritual life.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
If he can, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Get you even your soul to tear your soul apart
into pieces, break your soul apart. And for those of
you who are like, oh, well, this is just one verse.
But Psal twenty three, Verse three. God says that he
restores our soul. Why does he restore our soul? Because
the devil comes in to ruin our soul, to break
our soul into pieces. And sometimes we have parts of
our soul left and with different people, with our exes
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and with different relationships, and then we wonder why I
cannot move forward. Some people actually get demons through those
soul ties, and until those soul ties are broken, they
cannot experience freedom. And so I think that this teaching,
though it's not highlighted in the church, and some people
see it as more of like, oh, you guys are
just repeating what the new ages are saying, this is
very important. Almost every person that does deliverance that I
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know who actually does deliverance deals with the issue of
soul ties.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Hello, every one, welcome along for truth. My name is
Daniel Long, and sitting next to me as my lovely
wife Robin.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Everyone, So today we're going to be discussing soul ties
and we're going to be answering the questions. First of all,
what is a soul tie? And second of all, are
soul ties biblical and spoiler alert, No they're not.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
No, they're not. And if you were thinking a soul
tie was anything like what we put on the thumbnail,
that is not the kind of soul ties we are
talking about. Although Danny and I may go into a
sultie business.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Oh my goodness, sulti shop. Yeah, so we put a
picture on the screen there we have Marvin Gay, Aretha Franklin,
and Stevie Wonder as our favorite soul ties. Who are
your favorite sultaies?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Let us know who you want to see on a sultai.
So moving forward with actually the deliverance ministry version of
soul ties, why don't we go ahead and listen to
Vlad Savchuk give us a definie of sulties.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
A soultai is a strong spiritual and emotional connection you
have with someone after being intimate with them, especially in
engaging in sexual intercourse. Bible talks about saulties. We see,
for example, Jacob's life was tied to Benjamin Genesis forty four,
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verses thirty through thirty. First, we see David's soul was
knit to the soul of Jonathan. For Samuel eighteen, verse one.
The tribe of Judah was knit to their king second
Samuel twenty, verse two. And in First Chronicles, chapter twelve,
verse seventeen, we see that shechem his soul was strongly
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attached to the daughter of Jacob Genesis thirty four, verse three,
and we see that also husband and wife will become
one in Genesis two, verse twenty four. Something happens when
you have a physical relationship with is you develop soulties.
But you don't have to have a physical relationship to
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develop soulties. There could be this strong attachment that holds
a person back from moving forward in their life. Now,
overall attachments and soulties are good, for example, between husband
and wife, between sometimes parents and their children. We have
a sense of community. Even as believers, we are attached
to other believers. We're members of one another. What we're
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talking about is demonic sulties. What we're talking about is
soulties that are holding you back from what God wants
to do in your life.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
I think that your take on that clip is the
same as mine. He was mentioning how he was mentioning
a sultie being tied to sexual immorality. But then he
goes right.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Into what he goes right into a list of men
and friends and fathers and sons. But I do notice,
and as we go further, you'll notice this that they
tend to focus on the physical intimacy soul ties. I
think because it's going to get more views. It's more
exciting to talk about that than all of the other
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soul ties that they talk about, which can be good
or bad.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Yeah, he was, and they all do this. They'll talk
about the good soul ties and how you know you
can have godly soul ties, and of course we are
united to Christ. They would consider that a soul tie, right.
But then the main thing that they like to focus on,
like you said, is the the physical intimacy on it.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, yes, much more eyebrow raising. So going back, where
did this whole soul tie thing start? Now, the person
who made the idea of soulties most popular would have
been Frank Hammond. And you may know his name because
he and his wife wrote the.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Book Pigs and the Pigs in the.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Parlor exactly Pigs in the Parlor, huge deliverance book. Like
if you're in deliverance at all. You're going to have
that book on your bookshelf. That's a big eie. So
he wrote a book called I think it's just called
soul Ties, and in it he claims that someone else
came up with the term soul ties, but he doesn't
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tell us who, and so we couldn't find that. If
you know who said it prior to or during that
time with Frank Hammond, let us know in the comments
if you know anything about that. But he took a
much healthier view of soul ties and said, primarily a
soul tie is a good relationship, like Danny had mentioned,
between you and God, you and brothers and sisters in Christ,
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you and your spouse, a parent and a child. He said,
it can go wrong, and let's just read what he says.
He says, when relationships within any given area disregard the
boundaries that God has established, the relationships become perverse and
demon center. In other words, fleshley soul ties become de sultise.
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Through soulties, a spiritual channel is formed. For example, in
a godly marriage, the Holy Spirit flows between husband and
wife so that revelations and workings of the Holy Spirit
are held in common between a man and his wife,
the two become one through the influence of the Holy
Spirit on their lives. The same principle operates in demonic
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sulties when there is a sinful joining of two individuals.
Demons spirits in one person, open up the other person
for similar spirits, and the two become one.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Robin, let's some let's break that comment down, because he
says a lot of stuff in there that is just
absolutely unbiblical. First of all, first sentence, when relationships with
any given area disregard the boundaries that God has established,
the relationships become perverse and demons enter. So everything seems
to be about a demon. And so now you take
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this idea of demons coming into a relationship when the
boundaries are disregarded, God's boundaries are disregarded. So now this
becomes like some kind of channel or portal to demons
entering into the relationship.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's like I was saying, it's like a super highway.
You've either got the Holy Spirit super highway between two
Christians when there's a good relationship, or it becomes the
demon super highway if it's a bad relationship. And I
think we were talking just chapter in verse, please, Like
this seems to be some kind of missing link like
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in evolution, like where all of a sudden do we
go from having a bad relationship to bad relationships cause
demons to move back and forth between the two of us.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Well, the thing is is that this is a deliverance teaching,
and these demons are important in the deliverance ministry, and
so you have to revert back to demonology with this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You're right, you have to bring demons into the conversation
in order for you to be a validate deliverance minister exactly.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
And then in the next sense, and then in the
next sentence. In other words, fleshly soul tizes become demonic
soul ties. So every time somebody is in an ungodly relationship,
that has something to do with the demonic What about
just the fact that we are just sinners, evil, you know,
we're just we are We have evil hearts, and we do,
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unfortunately what we want to do when they some you know,
when the temptation is put in front of us, if
we are not obeying scripture, if we're not filled with
the spirit, you know, it's just it's just.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You're right, it's as easy as we're sinners.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
And then there's one more. I don't want to go
through the whole quote here, but here in the bottom
or the last part of the quote, I should say
it says the same principle operates in demonic soul ties
when there is a h let me, when there is
a sinful joining of two individuals, demon spirits in one
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person opens up the other person for similar spirits, and
the two become one. Nothing like this is taught in scripture.
You don't have to be afraid, and this kind of
stuff makes people afraid.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, I think the closest we could come is like
bad company corrupts good morals. Right, So you know, if
you're hanging out with a bunch of troublemakers I always
think of in high school, hanging out with the wrong
crew is probably going to turn you into one of
the wrong crews. So so you don't do that. So
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I suppose if you are hanging out with a bunch
of demon lovers, you're going to become a demon lover,
not even joking like, but just by thinking out but
with a person that you it's a bad thing. It's
not going to increase your demon activity level, folks.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Nothing, This doctrine is not taught in scripture. While there
are teachings about emotional bonds, and there are teachings about
you know, how relationships and how we should be as
Christians and the relationships we should have as Christians, this
doctrine isn't taught in scripture. Now they can say it is,
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but it just isn't. They have verses they try to use.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It would be very helpful if they had like a
deliverance blood work that you could go get done and say, Okay,
your demonic activity seems to be up, like your demonic
highway is open there, so you need to do something
to close.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
But the doctrine's not taught in scripture.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
No, it's not, Danny, and we just wanted to touch
on a few of the verses. I know Vlad mentioned
a few in his video. Just go through a couple
of the verses they used to validate their teachings. Of course,
I think they mentioned, or I don't know, Genesis forty
fourth thirty. Now, therefore, as soon as I come to
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your servant, my father, and the boy is not with us,
then as his life is bound up in the boy's.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Life, okay, yeah, I mean, and they use that phrase
his life is bound up in the boy's life to
talk about the soul's an unhealthy soul tide because it
doesn't have to be about sex, like he says. It
could be just you know, unhealthy relationships or an unhealthy
connection or healthy well yeah, or healthy. But in this
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case of Jacob, in this case of Jacob's life being
tied to Benjamin, where his he'll die if Benjamin, if
something happens to Benjamin, this is what they would say
is an unhealthy soul tie. This is the This is
where Judah is speaking to Joseph's and Joseph says, go
back and get your brother Benjamin and bring him here
or whatever. And Judah's like, no, please, you know my father,
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you know, prove to me that you are. You know
who you say are. You need to bring Benjamin here.
And so that's all. I almost kept all of them
from going to Egypt. Yeah, that's why that was about. Okay,
Second Samuel twenty verse two, and we're reading this from
the KJV because that's the version they use. So every
man of Israel went up from after David and followed Sheba,
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the son of vickery. But the men of Judah clave
unto their king from Jordan even to Jerusalem, so they
use that word clave there. You know, this is a
good soul tie to them. By the way, this is
when the men all joined David when he's hiding in
the cave, and they call this a good soulti. The
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me their soul's clave to David. They became united. But
I love what the ESV says, ESV. Rather than use clave,
the ESV uses the word steadfastly. So they became you know,
they followed David steadfastly. They were just they were on
his side. This has nothing to do with a healthy
soul tie connection. It just means that they were united
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with David. They were united with him with his cause,
and they loved him, and that is what That's just
what it is. It's just anyway you're getting ready to
say something.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
A lot of times when they use the term soultigh,
you could take it out and place in emotional tie, relationship,
a bond, a strong bond. It's natural for us to
bond with certain people, so if you use that instead.
But they use soultie so that they can bring in
that demon that goes through it.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I guess, gotta do it. Yeah, gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So they use other verses like Genesis thirty four to
three in the King James and his soul claved unto Dinah,
the daughter of Jacob, and he loved the damsel and
spake kindly unto the damsel. I think Lad mentioned that
one for Samuel eighteen to one. As soon as he
had finished speaking to Saul, the soul of Jonathan was
knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him
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as his own soul.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
And then God, well, no, no, I was going to say,
And that's supposed to be the good soul tie. You know,
Jonathan and David's tie, that's a good soul tie. But
this whole idea, just all this means is that they
loved one another as godly men and as friends. They
were united together. They loved one another. It doesn't mean
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that their souls were somehow mystically tied together. If you
want to use like we were talking about earlier, if
you want to use emotion, they had a you know,
some kind of I don't even want to say emotional
connection here, but if it's an emotional thing, you want
to use that for soul ties. Fine, but this is
all this is talking about, is that the deep love
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and friendship that they actually love.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yes, And a New Testament verse they use one Corinthians
six fifteen through twenty. Do you not know that your
bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the
members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never?
Or do you not know that he who is joined
to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For as
it is written, the two will become one flesh. But
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he who is joining to the Lord becomes one spirit
with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a
person commits is outside the body, But the sexually immoral
person sins against his own body. Or do you not
know that your body is a temple of the Holy
Spirit within you, whom you have from God. You are
not your own, for you were bought with the price,
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So glorify God in your body.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Okay, So they like to use the verse that says,
or do you not know that he who is joined
to a prostitute becomes one body with her? And they
use that as the big verse there that just you
know that verse is used almost every time I watched
the video on soul dide because of the unhealthy union
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between the prostitute and you know, the unhealthy unionween the two.
Ok So they always use that because that's that's how
demons enter that that opens up an avenue or like
you were talking about a highway to demons. But did
you notice as we Robin was reading that passage, how
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many times Paul said body, this had nothing to do
with it. No, nothing, mentioning nothing, mentioning a soul here?
Every how many I mean there were Do you not
know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I
take the members talking about the members of your body
and unite them to a prostitute and he just keeps
going on. Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.
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So no, this is not talking about a soul tie.
This is talking about an ungodly situation between a person
and a prostitute.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Right, So we have another clip about opening the door
to demons. Dannie, who is this?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
So these are some new people we are introducing on
our podcast. You may have heard of them, you may
not have, but it is Ken and Tabitha claytor Ken
and Tabitha are pastors of a live church and maybe
that's somebody we could cover sometime. But these guys are
doing their podcast and they're talking about how soul ties
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can be an open door to demons.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Wise, so when it comes to like soul ties, sometimes
we can be in sexual relationships with people who are
involved in witchcraft, or maybe they weren't involved in witchcraft,
but their grandmother was with this spirit is with them,
and now you've got involved with them, and now there's
something that's following you around. Or they could have been
involved in addictive spirits, you know, like whatever it is,
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whatever their generational thing that they've been dealing with. And
now you're like, but why would that happen to me?
I've never done this?
Speaker 9 (18:39):
Well, you didn't.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
You opened the door when you let that person in
and became soul tied with them, and now that demonic
spirit has a right to you because you've given them access.
Speaker 9 (18:50):
You've opened the door.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Well, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're dumb, stupid, evil
or intentionally doing things, but the devil doesn't play fair.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
If you open the door, he will come in just.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
A quick video to show you that this is what
it's all about. Demons, you know, and again they will say,
not every sole tie is unhealthy, not every soltie is bad,
but it always goes back to the demonic.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
It does remind me of a couple of videos that
we did. We did one on Jenny Weaver and she
was going around her house sprinkling holy water on everything,
praying over everything so that demons couldn't enter. So this
reminds me of that on a personal like, really, any
relationship you have, does anything, you better watch who you're
talking to or what you're doing, because it's just going
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to open up another demon portal and you're going to
be in trouble.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I don't know if this is this is just something
that I was just thinking about as you were talking
and we were talking about how or I had mentioned
earlier that how this really makes people afraid. You know,
it brings fear to people who are trapped in these
kinds of movements and ministries, and that seems to be
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a way that these guys keep people in, you know,
they're you keep them in because.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I need to key to this out.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Yeah, the key to getting free is deliverance, and so
you need us, you need us so absolutely, you know,
and so that's what that just so bothersome.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It's so it is, and we'll talk a little bit
more about that moving forward. Right now, I think we
have Mike Signorelli talking about his uh.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
A vision that he had, his bold Hie vision.
Speaker 10 (20:30):
I want to tell a quick story that's very dramatic
because I know that there's people watching that are still like,
I don't know our soul ties real?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Is there a biblical basis for this?
Speaker 10 (20:39):
You know, you had mentioned how everyone that we know
who does deliverance actually severs soul ties. And recently I
was doing a mass deliverance in southern Indiana on the
Kentucky border, and I was kind of working throughout the
entire crowd. Hundreds of people received deliverance.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It was amazing.
Speaker 10 (20:55):
But I got to this one particular woman, and up
to this point nothing had happened. I had observed no
visible manifestation. But in the spirit I saw this vision
of like two dozen umbilical cords connected to her back
and it was a very weird, but very like I
don't often get visuals that clear, but it was like, Wow,
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the Lord was showing me something. And immediately I was like,
it's soul ties. I need to sever soul ties. And
so all of a sudden, I walk up to her
and I begin to do that which we're gonna do
at the end of this broadcast, and I'm telling you,
she just started to get free.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I just posted the video today on my channel. But
here's the thing.
Speaker 10 (21:36):
The very next day, I was doing a pastor's training
and all these pastors came out. Her pastor came to
me and said, Mike, what you didn't know is that
for years and years and years she was a sex worker.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Wow, and she had never.
Speaker 10 (21:49):
Been able to receive freedom. She there had never even
been so much as a manifestation. But when you severed
all of those ungodly soul ties, immediately deliverance occurred. And
what I believe I was seeing spiritually was all of
the soul ties that resulted from sex with you know,
in the context of being a sex worker. So when
you see those types of things, it just makes this undeniable.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Okay, So do you see what we're talking about? Folks?
It seems to seems to always go back to the
topic of unhealthy sex.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Absolutely, It's well, it's a much more interesting topic than
talking about a healthy soul tie between mother and child
or us and a brother and sister in Christ, and
if they really believed in sul ties, Danny, wouldn't they
spend time like how to strengthen your healthy soul ties
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biblically rather than just always focusing on the negative.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Seems that way.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
One thing I wanted to mention was whenever they talk
about soul ties, and especially when he brought up that
umbilical cord thing. I do think of the Verse and
Ecclesiastes with the the silver cord that that is snapped,
you know, yeah, and things like that, that there's some
weird mystical like you said, tie yeah, between us and others.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
And that's the thing. It's this whole teaching, at least
in the unhealthy soul ties seem to be very mystical.
And a lot of people say, well, you know this,
this comes from the New Age. And yes, new Agers
do talk about soul ties. I've watched some stuff this
week from New Agers and soul ties. But one thing
I will tell you, there's a big difference between what
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these guys discuss I'm telling charismatic Christians when they discuss
soul ties versus what the psychics and the new Agers
discuss when they talk about solties, they talk about karma,
they talk about you know, they use tarot cards, you know,
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So there's a huge difference. I know, people say that
it does come from and stems from New Age, and
maybe the terminology does, but the teaching is like totally
different at least from what I've seen, you know. And
I'm no expert, believe me, I'm not an expert at
all on this, but it does seem to be way
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different when it comes to the terminology again the same
and getting rid of soul ties. There's some similarities there,
but at least when it comes to the teaching, there's
a big difference.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Big difference. So there are different types, according to our
deliverance ministers, different types of negative sul ties. It's not
just the physical intimacy. Katie Susa and Joan Hunter join
us to talk about trauma bonding.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So there's a lot of trauma in these sul ties.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
In fact, I had to break off sul ties with
what I call my piece that I ran with on
the street because all the piece that I ran with
we went through so much trauma together that we bonded
in this very un bonded souls. I right, trauma bonding.
It's trauma bonding. Okay, So talk about that and then
let's break off that trauma by.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The power of the Holy Spirit that came through that bonding.
Speaker 11 (25:13):
Well, a lot of times you find somebody that has
gone through something similar to you, and so you kind
of bond with that person so much so that you
take on their trauma and you've got your trauma, which
is really not good because it's like double trauma.
Speaker 12 (25:28):
And actually it's more.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
Than double, it's like multiply trauma. And that's really important
that we not do that. This is something in praying
for the sick that some people go, oh, you know,
I pray for somebody that pain in their shoulder, and
now I've got pain in my shoulder. That's it's a
form of trauma bonding. Or oh man, your heart was
hurting so bad, Now my heart hurts, okay, and you
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can't allow that to happen, okay. And so it's like,
you know, sometimes people need to pray before they pray
for other people. I've seasoned enough, I don't need to
do that. But like I've put my hand on somebody's
like you know, under their throat area, heart general heart area,
and I can feel a lot of times the trauma.
Speaker 12 (26:12):
That they went through in my hand, and I can
sometimes since it.
Speaker 11 (26:16):
Sometimes I can actually see what actually happened to them.
I can even pray in a stronger way, and then
I can feel it literally like a.
Speaker 12 (26:26):
Holy Goes vacuum coming out.
Speaker 11 (26:29):
Now I have a choice of allowing it to go
here or I have it go like foo and off,
and so it's like a vacuum and it exits and
exits right here.
Speaker 12 (26:41):
It doesn't come into my heart.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Well, I'm I'm sorry, thank you. Well, these ladies are
absolutely just bananas. They are wackos.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Are you telling me you don't believe in the Holy
Goes Vacuum, Dan.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Holy Goes Vacuum or putting? Okay, So so I guess
before you pray for some buddy, you need to pray
for yourself so that you don't get the same trauma
bond you know, or that you don't get the same
trauma they have, and then create a trauma bond.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
All you have to do is go like this and.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
And yeah, okay, so that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's enough and John right, yeah, and then we have
the three amigos again talking about bonding with them.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Yeah, so there, So I gotta just I gotta just
have you do me a favor. As you watch this clip,
you gotta watch Vlad's expression because Isaiah says something here
that is so cringe that even Vlad does a face palm.
I don't think Isaiah saw him on the camera because
he just kept waxing on. But Vlad does a face
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palm right there, and he kind of just laughs a
little bit. But yeah, you'll see.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Watch listen.
Speaker 13 (27:58):
I'm gonna go even say and taking a step further,
even some of you have ungodly connections with us, with
us right here, us four US, three guys on the screen,
I totally get it. You watch our stuff, you feel connected.
But if you I gotta be careful. I'm treading lightly here,
as you guys can tell. If you find yourself obsessing
over us, obsessing over our context, thinking about us at night,
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thinking about us, if you're thinking about us more than
your own husband or the own person you're with, there
could be some ungodly soul tie there, even with us.
Maybe we of course we've never met many of you,
but even just through the internet, there's a type of
soul tie. So we don't want that. We don't want
you obsessing over us. We don't want you idolizing us.
We don't want you creating unhealthy soul ties with our
ministries and with us. And so all these things are
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stuff that are not talked about often.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Okay, So something very very serious here, folks. Do not
do not obsess over Vlad, Mike and Isaiah at night,
because Carrian, that's an unhealthy soul tie.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Speaking of which, if it is a Sunday afternoon and
you're obsessing over Danny and Robin Long and where their
video is, you're saying, I need that Long for truth
the video to come out. You may have I'm on healthy,
Come on, you may have an unhealthy soul tie. You
need to back up, maybe do a little bit of this.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Oh my goodness, did you did so?
Speaker 12 (29:26):
So?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
You if you didn't catch Vlad's face palm there when
Isaiah said, you know, we don't want you thinking about
us at night, go back and watch it. It's worth
a watch.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
He couldn't even look in the camera after that. So
enough about all these soul ties. How are we going
to get rid of them? That is the question. How
do you take care of demonic sul ties. Now, if
you read Frank Hammond's book or you watch the videos
a lot, they have a step by step process of
forgiving the other, forgiving yourself, asking God for forgiveness, setting
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up a decree and declaring yourself separated. This kind of thing.
But let's look at this clip about doing a clean sweep.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
Yeah, so we go back to Ken and Tabitha Claytor.
Speaker 14 (30:12):
Here, So you got to do a clean sweet Yeah,
maybe talk about the demonic a little bit, because there
are certain things that we have in our homes that
represent all kinds of ungodliness. For me, this is a
thing when it comes to even you say that you're
just checking on them, but you're really stalking their social media.
Sometimes you have to disconnect yourself, like, let them live
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their life.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
That's done.
Speaker 14 (30:36):
It was ungodly, it was wrong, y'all not together. God
wants to move you on. Just go ahead, and it's
okay to move on.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
Absolutely all of those things.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
Old jewelry, if someone gave you a ring, you need
to get rid of that ring, the necklace, the earrings,
the dress, the shoes some of us have, you know,
maybe we've been divorced now and we're having a hard
time getting over that divorce, but you still have the
wedding dress that you're holding on to.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
You might want to let that go.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
I'm not saying that that's God for you, but examine
these situations.
Speaker 9 (31:08):
If you cannot get over it, break off. I don't play.
I have thrown away things.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
That have been valued to valuable to me just because
I just don't want ties to it, vowels that I've made,
not this isn't sexual, but vowels that I made to
sororities like Okay, no, I break that because that's ungodly,
that doesn't have anything to do with God. And I
don't know if it's for me or for you know,
if it's just for me, But I break that tie
in the name of Jesus. I'm thrown away this jewelry.
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I'm thrown away these momentos. I don't want ungodly influence
in my life appreciation. So open the door for Jesus
to come in and show you. It might be a
picture that you need to throw away. It could be
godly things like a picture of Jesus. It could be
a picture, you know, praying hand, something that's tying you
to a certain person let it go.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Interesting, So if you have a picture of Jesus hands
or a picture of Jesus that has tied you to
an unhealthy relationship, you got to let go of it.
And so I guess they're talking about doing a clean
sweep here, going across you'r a whole. I don't know
if all of your belongings and tossing them, getting rid
of them.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
And I think a lot of that is just common sense.
If you have old relationships or tithes that you want
to remove things that bring up any kind of memory
of that that that is not godly, you would.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Just do that.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I don't see how that has anything to do with
breaking a soul tie.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Perhaps well, some of them will teach that if there
could be a demonic presence connected to or attached to
this item, yep, that means so you need to get
rid of that, you need to burn that, or whatever
you need to do. And I think they would they
would go to the story and acts where the people
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came and they burned all of their their you know, paraphernalia,
they're uh in the fire and and I can't remember
the exact the exact place, and acts, but where they came,
and they threw all of their magic arts and books
and things like that into the fire when they became,
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when they were converted to Christ, you know. But breaking
the Sultan again, it's all about, you know, it's all
about some something that you have to do ritualistically so
that you can detach yourself from that person or thing
or the demonic.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Right, Katie and Joan are going to walk us through
some of our declarations to renounce the sul ties.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Okay, so let's just do that together. Just say Lord,
and right now, right now, send back.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I send back the pieces of that person's.
Speaker 12 (33:52):
Soul, pieces of that person's soul.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
That still are intertwined in my heart, still intertwined in
my heart. I send them back to them, Send it
back to them, and I command, I command every piece,
every piece of my broken heart, my broken heart, to
come back to me, to come back to me.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So my heart can be whole and healthy.
Speaker 12 (34:16):
So my heart could be whole and healthy.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Say I decree it now in Jesus name.
Speaker 12 (34:21):
I decreate now in Jesus's name, Hellelujah.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Okay, and you can even do that prayer again, guys,
and say, each person by name, because it's true they're
holding on.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
You heard the stories that Joan talked about.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Even that woman with her husband was in the grave
and the pieces of her heart are with him in
the grave.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
She couldn't even say his name.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
She finally was able to bring it back, to call
her pieces of her heart back to herself. And when
she walked to her house and her husband opens the door,
he sees her.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
He knows something's happening. He said, what happened? You look
totally different, And now her heart was whold and she
could totally give it to her covenant husband at that time.
So this is very important.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
In fact, let's just say it again, just say I
send the pieces of their.
Speaker 12 (35:08):
Soul, send the pieces of my soul.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
The pieces of their soul back to them, back to them,
and I call the pieces of my heart back to me.
Speaker 12 (35:20):
I call the pieces of my heart back to me.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
OK.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
That is soul ties two point oher off the charts.
Different kind of soul ties that you have to go
to your deceased loved one's grave to pick up pieces
of your heart.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
It's it's really it's it's really disgusting, and it sounds
like incantations to me like these these declarations are nothing
more to me than than ipantations.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
And I have been humming Tony Braxton's Unbreak My Heart
since I watched that clip, so like all week long,
it's been Unbreak my Heart. So Frank Hammond also has
a free for you to read in case you are
suffering from soul ties. He states, we should say, I
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your name, command the thief, the liar, the murderer to
flee before the presence of the Lord and before Heaven's
army supporting me. Right now, I ask you Lord to
flood this room with the sweet aroma of Jesus through
the Holy Spirit, and I serve notice that no other
spirit is allowed to dwell in the presence of the
most high enemy. I drive you relentlessly away from my soul,
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and the army of Heaven now pursues you to your destruction.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Okay, so there's your incantation for you if you want
to be free from soul ties, well, at least that's
one incantation, or you could use the Katie Susa incantation.
It's up to you. But incantations to deliver yourself from
these harmful soul ties.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Your daily decrees. Yeah, Frank Hammond, So let's talk about
our souls, Danny. I know you found a really good definition.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Yeah. So Logos Bible Software has this search engine and
really it's got a One of the engines is smart Search,
and so I just went on smart Search and you
just typed in a basic question what is a soul?
And it pulls from all of your books that you
have in Logos and gives you a really good explanation.
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And I thought this was very well, a really good explanation.
So we'll read that.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Okay, So what is a soul? Humans are composed of
body and soul, as illustrated by the biblical account of
God forming man from dust and breathing life into him.
The soul serves multiple critical functions. It gives life to
the body, is immortal, provides rational ability, enables emotional experience,
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shapes personality, and allows spiritual communion with God. While some
have attempted to distinguish between soul and spirit, these terms
are generally used interchangeably to ref to the same entity. Importantly,
the soul is immortal and continues to exist after the
body dies, with death being defined as the moment when
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the soul separates from the body after death, the soul
survives independently, retaining intellectual and volitional capabilities, and awaits the
eventual resurrection and divine judgment.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
So I think that was a that's a really good
definition of the soul. And one of the things that
was mentioned in that definition was that soul and spirit
are used interchangeably, and that is how the Scripture uses
spirit and soul. That is the dichotomist view, a dichotomy.
A dichotomist view would be that we are we have
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a body and a soul, okay, And when the Bible
uses the word spirit and soul, it uses them interchangeably.
But the soul and the body are so connected that
that is why death is so unnatural, because it is
literally the ripping away, the ripping apart the soul from
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the body. And as the soul is going to be
living forever, eventually God is going to Christ is going
to come and create the new heavens and the new Earth.
We're going to get resurrected bodies and we will be
united with our new bodies forever. That is how important
the body is and the soul together. And so the
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trichotomist view, which it would be. What most of these
guys that believe in soul ties are is the teaching
that we have a body, a soul, and a spirit,
and that's important to them. Now, while not everybody who
holds to the trichotomy view would hold to the teaching
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that these guys do on soul ties, it is it
is really important because in their view, Christ comes when
you're a Christian and he comes to live in the spirit,
in your spirit, but your soul can have demons. Your
body and your soul can have demons. So that's why
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it's so important to them, because they would say, well,
the demons can't come and live in your spirit, they
can come and live in your soul.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
And that's why Christians can be possessed.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Yes, and so anyway, and they wouldn't need They would say, well,
we don't use possession. We don't believe that Christian can
be possessed. We just believe that they Christians can have demons.
They don't like to use that. It's it's a semantics issue.
It is what it is. But that's why to them,
the whole trichotomous view is so important because through using
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that view, they can say that Christians can have a demon.
Speaker 14 (40:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You have another good quote in here, Danny from Stephen
Mueller from the book called To Believe, Teach and Confess,
an introduction to doctrinal theology, and it states, also retained
according to scripture, is our personal existence as a unity
of body and soul together as a brief working definition,
then we may describe a human being as an intelligent
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and moral being consisting of a body and soul which
are united in one complete person. And I think that
goes right along with what you have just already talked about,
right yep.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
And then we have Wayne Grudem who is a charismatic himself,
and yet he doesn't hold to the trichotomist view. He
seems to be a dichotomis. This comes from his systematic theology.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
He states, what person knows a man's thoughts except the
spirit of the man, which is in him on Corinthians
two eleven. The point of these verses is not to
say that it is the spirit rather than the soul
that feels and thinks things, but rather that soul in
spirit are both terms used of the immaterial side of
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people generally, and it is difficult to see any real
distinction between the use of the terms. In fact, we
should not slip into the mistake of thinking that certain
activities such as thinking, feeling, or deciding things are done
by only one part of us. Rather, these activities are
done by the whole person.
Speaker 6 (42:23):
So that would debunk the idea that a demon can
come and live in your soul rather than your spirit.
How they would say, Christ lives in the spirit, so
there can't come in, but the demon can come into
the body and live, you know, and you know, affect
all kinds of your soul in all kinds of bad ways.
So Grudham himself, who is a charismatic, would disagree at
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least in that according to that statement, with what these
guys teach about soul ties.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Right, so, now you know, and we know, the Bible
never mentions or teaches a doctrine of soul ties and
the deliverance. Guys will say, yes, the Bible never mentioned
soultis and it never mentions trinity and things like that,
But they use their verses that we've already spoken about.
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The problem with soultiz is it really does not.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
There's no teaching about it in scripture at all. There
is teaching about the trinity. You can you can go
through scripture and you can see that the trinity is
taught in the scripture, the incarnation of Christ is taught.
There are things words that aren't mentioned, like trinity, incarnation,
but the doctrine is taught. The doctrine of soul ties
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is not taught in scripture. It's not a doctrine taught.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
In script And you can glue together twenty or thirty
verses that talk about an emotional bond between people and
it does not create the doctrine of soul ties.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
We are not to go beyond what the scripture says.
We are not to go beyond what is written.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
No, First Corinthians four six says, I've applied all these
things to myself for your benefit, brothers, that you may
learn by us not to go beyond what is written,
that none of you may be puffed up in favor
of one against another.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
So that's very clear. We are not to create our
own doctrine just because we feel not to go beyond
what the scripture says. We are to exactly not to
go beyond what is written.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, we see that a lot. So briefly we have
mentioned a couple of the dangers of this teaching, and
let's just look at those again. The first one would
be blame shifting.
Speaker 12 (44:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
One danger is that it can externalize blame. I don't
need to exercise self discipline. I need to get rid
of those demons. Yes, I do need to forgive, I
need to do this and that. But it's honestly, it's
all these demons working in me and around me that
keep making me sin.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
Yeah. Yeah. The responsibility, you know, and I've I've watched
enough of the videos from you know, deliverance, deliverance ministers
and others. They would they would say, you do need
to take responsibility. But then on the other side of
their mouth they would say that you know that you
need to get deliverance all you know, if just you know,
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the demons can come back, and so you need to
be really careful. And so they give you all these
methods and how to keep demons from coming back. So
it's they kind of talk out of both sides of
their mouths.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
It's actually more work, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
It really is work, then absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah. Another danger is this whole ritualistic mentality, like you mentioned, Danny,
they have to continually go to deliverance sessions, don't they.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
I just feel like that is there. That's how they
keep people in their movement, keep people trapped, is by
teaching that you have to constantly be delivered. And when
they teach things like demons coming back, what does that do?
That just makes the person say, Okay, I got to
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get delivered again, or I let my guard down and
I did something I shouldn't have done, and now I've
opened a door to a demon. Now I've got to
go back and get deliverance.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Again, removing the power of the gospel and placing it
in the power of this deliverance minister.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
Yeah, right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
And also, like you mentioned earlier, Danny, there's the fear
elements that's a problem these people. I would go around
constantly afraid that there were demons everywhere, and I was
on the attack.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Yeah, yep, and that these are the dangerous folks. And
the scripture makes it clear there is the the what
are we to do? How are we to live? Is
there some kind of a mystical kind of incantation that
we have to do or something we have to you know,
renounce or or whatever to break these demonic soul ties?
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But I don't think that's the case. I believe Scripture
just gives us such a clear way of living a
godly and holy life. It doesn't give you some kind
of mystical formula so that you can You know that
you have to do to break a soul tie.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, Ephesians four twenty two through thirty two. To put
off your old self, which belongs to your former manner
of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to
be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to
put on the new self, created after the likeness of God,
in true righteousness and holiness. Therefore, having put away falsehood,
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let each of you speak the truth with his neighbor,
for we are members one of another. Be angry and
do not sin. Do not let the sun go down
on your anger, and give no opportunity to the devil.
Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him
labor doing honest work with his own hands, so that
he may have something to share with anyone in need.
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Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but
only such as a good for building up as fits
the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear,
and do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God by
whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let
all bitterness and wrath, and anger, and clamor and slander
be put away from you, along with all malice. Be
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kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God
in Christ forgave you.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
When you go through the epistles, especially the Epistles of
Paul and he gives instruction on how to live the
Christian life. He just tells you what you need to do.
There's nothing mystical. He just says you are a new
creation in Christ. Now this is how you're to live.
Do this, do this, do this, put off this, put
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off that. There's no formula, mystical formula to or incantation
that you have to or declaration that you have to
do in order to be free from a soul tire
or live a godly life. It is just look, you
have the Holy Spirit. He is in dwelling within you.
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He gives you the power to live that godly life.
Now this is what you need to do. Do it.
Nothing magical, nothing mystical. Folks, soul tithes are unbiblical. The
doctrine of soul ties not taught in scripture. The Bible
itself gives us instructions on how to live a godly
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and holy life. Folks, I hope this video was helpful
to you. If it was, and you think it'll be
helpful to others, please pass it along, and Lord Willing,
we'll see you next week.
Speaker 12 (50:03):
Patting the dam
Welcome to the Long for Truth podcast. I'm Robin Long.
Join my husband Dan and I as we explore the
roots of the early Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, and we
shine a light on false doctrines and false teachers in
the modern church. Let's get started.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I break that trauma off of you.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I speak to every trauma bond and I neagatize it.
I decree you're divorced from it. You are severed from it.
You are separated from it. And I command the trauma
that you're carrying in common with another person to come
out of your cells, out of the.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Cellular memory, out of your mind, out of your.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Will, out of your emotions, out of every part of you.
In the name of Jesus, I release the Holy Spirit
to heal you of that trauma and to dissolve that
trauma bond. It will not bond itself anymore to your mind,
to your body, to any part of your being.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
In the name of gen Jesus.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Now now, now, in Jesus' name, now Father, thank you Lord.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
See the devil is not just after you, know, hijacking
your spiritual life.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
If he can, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Get you even your soul to tear your soul apart
into pieces, break your soul apart. And for those of
you who are like, oh, well, this is just one verse.
But Psal twenty three, Verse three. God says that he
restores our soul. Why does he restore our soul? Because
the devil comes in to ruin our soul, to break
our soul into pieces. And sometimes we have parts of
our soul left and with different people, with our exes
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and with different relationships, and then we wonder why I
cannot move forward. Some people actually get demons through those
soul ties, and until those soul ties are broken, they
cannot experience freedom. And so I think that this teaching,
though it's not highlighted in the church, and some people
see it as more of like, oh, you guys are
just repeating what the new ages are saying, this is
very important. Almost every person that does deliverance that I
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know who actually does deliverance deals with the issue of
soul ties.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Hello, every one, welcome along for truth. My name is
Daniel Long, and sitting next to me as my lovely
wife Robin.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Everyone, So today we're going to be discussing soul ties
and we're going to be answering the questions. First of all,
what is a soul tie? And second of all, are
soul ties biblical and spoiler alert, No they're not.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
No, they're not. And if you were thinking a soul
tie was anything like what we put on the thumbnail,
that is not the kind of soul ties we are
talking about. Although Danny and I may go into a
sultie business.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Oh my goodness, sulti shop. Yeah, so we put a
picture on the screen there we have Marvin Gay, Aretha Franklin,
and Stevie Wonder as our favorite soul ties. Who are
your favorite sultaies?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Let us know who you want to see on a sultai.
So moving forward with actually the deliverance ministry version of
soul ties, why don't we go ahead and listen to
Vlad Savchuk give us a definie of sulties.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
A soultai is a strong spiritual and emotional connection you
have with someone after being intimate with them, especially in
engaging in sexual intercourse. Bible talks about saulties. We see,
for example, Jacob's life was tied to Benjamin Genesis forty four,
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verses thirty through thirty. First, we see David's soul was
knit to the soul of Jonathan. For Samuel eighteen, verse one.
The tribe of Judah was knit to their king second
Samuel twenty, verse two. And in First Chronicles, chapter twelve,
verse seventeen, we see that shechem his soul was strongly
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attached to the daughter of Jacob Genesis thirty four, verse three,
and we see that also husband and wife will become
one in Genesis two, verse twenty four. Something happens when
you have a physical relationship with is you develop soulties.
But you don't have to have a physical relationship to
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develop soulties. There could be this strong attachment that holds
a person back from moving forward in their life. Now,
overall attachments and soulties are good, for example, between husband
and wife, between sometimes parents and their children. We have
a sense of community. Even as believers, we are attached
to other believers. We're members of one another. What we're
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talking about is demonic sulties. What we're talking about is
soulties that are holding you back from what God wants
to do in your life.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
I think that your take on that clip is the
same as mine. He was mentioning how he was mentioning
a sultie being tied to sexual immorality. But then he
goes right.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Into what he goes right into a list of men
and friends and fathers and sons. But I do notice,
and as we go further, you'll notice this that they
tend to focus on the physical intimacy soul ties. I
think because it's going to get more views. It's more
exciting to talk about that than all of the other
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soul ties that they talk about, which can be good
or bad.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Yeah, he was, and they all do this. They'll talk
about the good soul ties and how you know you
can have godly soul ties, and of course we are
united to Christ. They would consider that a soul tie, right.
But then the main thing that they like to focus on,
like you said, is the the physical intimacy on it.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, yes, much more eyebrow raising. So going back, where
did this whole soul tie thing start? Now, the person
who made the idea of soulties most popular would have
been Frank Hammond. And you may know his name because
he and his wife wrote the.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Book Pigs and the Pigs in the.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Parlor exactly Pigs in the Parlor, huge deliverance book. Like
if you're in deliverance at all. You're going to have
that book on your bookshelf. That's a big eie. So
he wrote a book called I think it's just called
soul Ties, and in it he claims that someone else
came up with the term soul ties, but he doesn't
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tell us who, and so we couldn't find that. If
you know who said it prior to or during that
time with Frank Hammond, let us know in the comments
if you know anything about that. But he took a
much healthier view of soul ties and said, primarily a
soul tie is a good relationship, like Danny had mentioned,
between you and God, you and brothers and sisters in Christ,
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you and your spouse, a parent and a child. He said,
it can go wrong, and let's just read what he says.
He says, when relationships within any given area disregard the
boundaries that God has established, the relationships become perverse and
demon center. In other words, fleshley soul ties become de sultise.
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Through soulties, a spiritual channel is formed. For example, in
a godly marriage, the Holy Spirit flows between husband and
wife so that revelations and workings of the Holy Spirit
are held in common between a man and his wife,
the two become one through the influence of the Holy
Spirit on their lives. The same principle operates in demonic
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sulties when there is a sinful joining of two individuals.
Demons spirits in one person, open up the other person
for similar spirits, and the two become one.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Robin, let's some let's break that comment down, because he
says a lot of stuff in there that is just
absolutely unbiblical. First of all, first sentence, when relationships with
any given area disregard the boundaries that God has established,
the relationships become perverse and demons enter. So everything seems
to be about a demon. And so now you take
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this idea of demons coming into a relationship when the
boundaries are disregarded, God's boundaries are disregarded. So now this
becomes like some kind of channel or portal to demons
entering into the relationship.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's like I was saying, it's like a super highway.
You've either got the Holy Spirit super highway between two
Christians when there's a good relationship, or it becomes the
demon super highway if it's a bad relationship. And I
think we were talking just chapter in verse, please, Like
this seems to be some kind of missing link like
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in evolution, like where all of a sudden do we
go from having a bad relationship to bad relationships cause
demons to move back and forth between the two of us.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Well, the thing is is that this is a deliverance teaching,
and these demons are important in the deliverance ministry, and
so you have to revert back to demonology with this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You're right, you have to bring demons into the conversation
in order for you to be a validate deliverance minister exactly.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
And then in the next sense, and then in the
next sentence. In other words, fleshly soul tizes become demonic
soul ties. So every time somebody is in an ungodly relationship,
that has something to do with the demonic What about
just the fact that we are just sinners, evil, you know,
we're just we are We have evil hearts, and we do,
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unfortunately what we want to do when they some you know,
when the temptation is put in front of us, if
we are not obeying scripture, if we're not filled with
the spirit, you know, it's just it's just.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You're right, it's as easy as we're sinners.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
And then there's one more. I don't want to go
through the whole quote here, but here in the bottom
or the last part of the quote, I should say
it says the same principle operates in demonic soul ties
when there is a h let me, when there is
a sinful joining of two individuals, demon spirits in one
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person opens up the other person for similar spirits, and
the two become one. Nothing like this is taught in scripture.
You don't have to be afraid, and this kind of
stuff makes people afraid.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, I think the closest we could come is like
bad company corrupts good morals. Right, So you know, if
you're hanging out with a bunch of troublemakers I always
think of in high school, hanging out with the wrong
crew is probably going to turn you into one of
the wrong crews. So so you don't do that. So
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I suppose if you are hanging out with a bunch
of demon lovers, you're going to become a demon lover,
not even joking like, but just by thinking out but
with a person that you it's a bad thing. It's
not going to increase your demon activity level, folks.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Nothing, This doctrine is not taught in scripture. While there
are teachings about emotional bonds, and there are teachings about
you know, how relationships and how we should be as
Christians and the relationships we should have as Christians, this
doctrine isn't taught in scripture. Now they can say it is,
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but it just isn't. They have verses they try to use.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It would be very helpful if they had like a
deliverance blood work that you could go get done and say, Okay,
your demonic activity seems to be up, like your demonic
highway is open there, so you need to do something
to close.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
But the doctrine's not taught in scripture.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
No, it's not, Danny, and we just wanted to touch
on a few of the verses. I know Vlad mentioned
a few in his video. Just go through a couple
of the verses they used to validate their teachings. Of course,
I think they mentioned, or I don't know, Genesis forty
fourth thirty. Now, therefore, as soon as I come to
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your servant, my father, and the boy is not with us,
then as his life is bound up in the boy's.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Life, okay, yeah, I mean, and they use that phrase
his life is bound up in the boy's life to
talk about the soul's an unhealthy soul tide because it
doesn't have to be about sex, like he says. It
could be just you know, unhealthy relationships or an unhealthy
connection or healthy well yeah, or healthy. But in this
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case of Jacob, in this case of Jacob's life being
tied to Benjamin, where his he'll die if Benjamin, if
something happens to Benjamin, this is what they would say
is an unhealthy soul tie. This is the This is
where Judah is speaking to Joseph's and Joseph says, go
back and get your brother Benjamin and bring him here
or whatever. And Judah's like, no, please, you know my father,
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you know, prove to me that you are. You know
who you say are. You need to bring Benjamin here.
And so that's all. I almost kept all of them
from going to Egypt. Yeah, that's why that was about. Okay,
Second Samuel twenty verse two, and we're reading this from
the KJV because that's the version they use. So every
man of Israel went up from after David and followed Sheba,
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the son of vickery. But the men of Judah clave
unto their king from Jordan even to Jerusalem, so they
use that word clave there. You know, this is a
good soul tie to them. By the way, this is
when the men all joined David when he's hiding in
the cave, and they call this a good soulti. The
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me their soul's clave to David. They became united. But
I love what the ESV says, ESV. Rather than use clave,
the ESV uses the word steadfastly. So they became you know,
they followed David steadfastly. They were just they were on
his side. This has nothing to do with a healthy
soul tie connection. It just means that they were united
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with David. They were united with him with his cause,
and they loved him, and that is what That's just
what it is. It's just anyway you're getting ready to
say something.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
A lot of times when they use the term soultigh,
you could take it out and place in emotional tie, relationship,
a bond, a strong bond. It's natural for us to
bond with certain people, so if you use that instead.
But they use soultie so that they can bring in
that demon that goes through it.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I guess, gotta do it. Yeah, gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So they use other verses like Genesis thirty four to
three in the King James and his soul claved unto Dinah,
the daughter of Jacob, and he loved the damsel and
spake kindly unto the damsel. I think Lad mentioned that
one for Samuel eighteen to one. As soon as he
had finished speaking to Saul, the soul of Jonathan was
knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him
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as his own soul.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
And then God, well, no, no, I was going to say,
And that's supposed to be the good soul tie. You know,
Jonathan and David's tie, that's a good soul tie. But
this whole idea, just all this means is that they
loved one another as godly men and as friends. They
were united together. They loved one another. It doesn't mean
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that their souls were somehow mystically tied together. If you
want to use like we were talking about earlier, if
you want to use emotion, they had a you know,
some kind of I don't even want to say emotional
connection here, but if it's an emotional thing, you want
to use that for soul ties. Fine, but this is
all this is talking about, is that the deep love
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and friendship that they actually love.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yes, And a New Testament verse they use one Corinthians
six fifteen through twenty. Do you not know that your
bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the
members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never?
Or do you not know that he who is joined
to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For as
it is written, the two will become one flesh. But
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he who is joining to the Lord becomes one spirit
with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a
person commits is outside the body, But the sexually immoral
person sins against his own body. Or do you not
know that your body is a temple of the Holy
Spirit within you, whom you have from God. You are
not your own, for you were bought with the price,
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So glorify God in your body.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Okay, So they like to use the verse that says,
or do you not know that he who is joined
to a prostitute becomes one body with her? And they
use that as the big verse there that just you
know that verse is used almost every time I watched
the video on soul dide because of the unhealthy union
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between the prostitute and you know, the unhealthy unionween the two.
Ok So they always use that because that's that's how
demons enter that that opens up an avenue or like
you were talking about a highway to demons. But did
you notice as we Robin was reading that passage, how
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many times Paul said body, this had nothing to do
with it. No, nothing, mentioning nothing, mentioning a soul here?
Every how many I mean there were Do you not
know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I
take the members talking about the members of your body
and unite them to a prostitute and he just keeps
going on. Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.
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So no, this is not talking about a soul tie.
This is talking about an ungodly situation between a person
and a prostitute.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Right, So we have another clip about opening the door
to demons. Dannie, who is this?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
So these are some new people we are introducing on
our podcast. You may have heard of them, you may
not have, but it is Ken and Tabitha claytor Ken
and Tabitha are pastors of a live church and maybe
that's somebody we could cover sometime. But these guys are
doing their podcast and they're talking about how soul ties
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can be an open door to demons.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Wise, so when it comes to like soul ties, sometimes
we can be in sexual relationships with people who are
involved in witchcraft, or maybe they weren't involved in witchcraft,
but their grandmother was with this spirit is with them,
and now you've got involved with them, and now there's
something that's following you around. Or they could have been
involved in addictive spirits, you know, like whatever it is,
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whatever their generational thing that they've been dealing with. And
now you're like, but why would that happen to me?
I've never done this?
Speaker 9 (18:39):
Well, you didn't.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
You opened the door when you let that person in
and became soul tied with them, and now that demonic
spirit has a right to you because you've given them access.
Speaker 9 (18:50):
You've opened the door.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Well, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're dumb, stupid, evil
or intentionally doing things, but the devil doesn't play fair.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
If you open the door, he will come in just.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
A quick video to show you that this is what
it's all about. Demons, you know, and again they will say,
not every sole tie is unhealthy, not every soltie is bad,
but it always goes back to the demonic.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
It does remind me of a couple of videos that
we did. We did one on Jenny Weaver and she
was going around her house sprinkling holy water on everything,
praying over everything so that demons couldn't enter. So this
reminds me of that on a personal like, really, any
relationship you have, does anything, you better watch who you're
talking to or what you're doing, because it's just going
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to open up another demon portal and you're going to
be in trouble.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I don't know if this is this is just something
that I was just thinking about as you were talking
and we were talking about how or I had mentioned
earlier that how this really makes people afraid. You know,
it brings fear to people who are trapped in these
kinds of movements and ministries, and that seems to be
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a way that these guys keep people in, you know,
they're you keep them in because.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I need to key to this out.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Yeah, the key to getting free is deliverance, and so
you need us, you need us so absolutely, you know,
and so that's what that just so bothersome.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It's so it is, and we'll talk a little bit
more about that moving forward. Right now, I think we
have Mike Signorelli talking about his uh.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
A vision that he had, his bold Hie vision.
Speaker 10 (20:30):
I want to tell a quick story that's very dramatic
because I know that there's people watching that are still like,
I don't know our soul ties real?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Is there a biblical basis for this?
Speaker 10 (20:39):
You know, you had mentioned how everyone that we know
who does deliverance actually severs soul ties. And recently I
was doing a mass deliverance in southern Indiana on the
Kentucky border, and I was kind of working throughout the
entire crowd. Hundreds of people received deliverance.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It was amazing.
Speaker 10 (20:55):
But I got to this one particular woman, and up
to this point nothing had happened. I had observed no
visible manifestation. But in the spirit I saw this vision
of like two dozen umbilical cords connected to her back
and it was a very weird, but very like I
don't often get visuals that clear, but it was like, Wow,
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the Lord was showing me something. And immediately I was like,
it's soul ties. I need to sever soul ties. And
so all of a sudden, I walk up to her
and I begin to do that which we're gonna do
at the end of this broadcast, and I'm telling you,
she just started to get free.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I just posted the video today on my channel. But
here's the thing.
Speaker 10 (21:36):
The very next day, I was doing a pastor's training
and all these pastors came out. Her pastor came to
me and said, Mike, what you didn't know is that
for years and years and years she was a sex worker.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Wow, and she had never.
Speaker 10 (21:49):
Been able to receive freedom. She there had never even
been so much as a manifestation. But when you severed
all of those ungodly soul ties, immediately deliverance occurred. And
what I believe I was seeing spiritually was all of
the soul ties that resulted from sex with you know,
in the context of being a sex worker. So when
you see those types of things, it just makes this undeniable.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Okay, So do you see what we're talking about? Folks?
It seems to seems to always go back to the
topic of unhealthy sex.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Absolutely, It's well, it's a much more interesting topic than
talking about a healthy soul tie between mother and child
or us and a brother and sister in Christ, and
if they really believed in sul ties, Danny, wouldn't they
spend time like how to strengthen your healthy soul ties
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biblically rather than just always focusing on the negative.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Seems that way.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
One thing I wanted to mention was whenever they talk
about soul ties, and especially when he brought up that
umbilical cord thing. I do think of the Verse and
Ecclesiastes with the the silver cord that that is snapped,
you know, yeah, and things like that, that there's some
weird mystical like you said, tie yeah, between us and others.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
And that's the thing. It's this whole teaching, at least
in the unhealthy soul ties seem to be very mystical.
And a lot of people say, well, you know this,
this comes from the New Age. And yes, new Agers
do talk about soul ties. I've watched some stuff this
week from New Agers and soul ties. But one thing
I will tell you, there's a big difference between what
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these guys discuss I'm telling charismatic Christians when they discuss
soul ties versus what the psychics and the new Agers
discuss when they talk about solties, they talk about karma,
they talk about you know, they use tarot cards, you know,
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So there's a huge difference. I know, people say that
it does come from and stems from New Age, and
maybe the terminology does, but the teaching is like totally
different at least from what I've seen, you know. And
I'm no expert, believe me, I'm not an expert at
all on this, but it does seem to be way
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different when it comes to the terminology again the same
and getting rid of soul ties. There's some similarities there,
but at least when it comes to the teaching, there's
a big difference.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Big difference. So there are different types, according to our
deliverance ministers, different types of negative sul ties. It's not
just the physical intimacy. Katie Susa and Joan Hunter join
us to talk about trauma bonding.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So there's a lot of trauma in these sul ties.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
In fact, I had to break off sul ties with
what I call my piece that I ran with on
the street because all the piece that I ran with
we went through so much trauma together that we bonded
in this very un bonded souls. I right, trauma bonding.
It's trauma bonding. Okay, So talk about that and then
let's break off that trauma by.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The power of the Holy Spirit that came through that bonding.
Speaker 11 (25:13):
Well, a lot of times you find somebody that has
gone through something similar to you, and so you kind
of bond with that person so much so that you
take on their trauma and you've got your trauma, which
is really not good because it's like double trauma.
Speaker 12 (25:28):
And actually it's more.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
Than double, it's like multiply trauma. And that's really important
that we not do that. This is something in praying
for the sick that some people go, oh, you know,
I pray for somebody that pain in their shoulder, and
now I've got pain in my shoulder. That's it's a
form of trauma bonding. Or oh man, your heart was
hurting so bad, Now my heart hurts, okay, and you
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can't allow that to happen, okay. And so it's like,
you know, sometimes people need to pray before they pray
for other people. I've seasoned enough, I don't need to
do that. But like I've put my hand on somebody's
like you know, under their throat area, heart general heart area,
and I can feel a lot of times the trauma.
Speaker 12 (26:12):
That they went through in my hand, and I can
sometimes since it.
Speaker 11 (26:16):
Sometimes I can actually see what actually happened to them.
I can even pray in a stronger way, and then
I can feel it literally like a.
Speaker 12 (26:26):
Holy Goes vacuum coming out.
Speaker 11 (26:29):
Now I have a choice of allowing it to go
here or I have it go like foo and off,
and so it's like a vacuum and it exits and
exits right here.
Speaker 12 (26:41):
It doesn't come into my heart.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Well, I'm I'm sorry, thank you. Well, these ladies are
absolutely just bananas. They are wackos.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Are you telling me you don't believe in the Holy
Goes Vacuum, Dan.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Holy Goes Vacuum or putting? Okay, So so I guess
before you pray for some buddy, you need to pray
for yourself so that you don't get the same trauma
bond you know, or that you don't get the same
trauma they have, and then create a trauma bond.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
All you have to do is go like this and.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
And yeah, okay, so that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's enough and John right, yeah, and then we have
the three amigos again talking about bonding with them.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Yeah, so there, So I gotta just I gotta just
have you do me a favor. As you watch this clip,
you gotta watch Vlad's expression because Isaiah says something here
that is so cringe that even Vlad does a face palm.
I don't think Isaiah saw him on the camera because
he just kept waxing on. But Vlad does a face
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palm right there, and he kind of just laughs a
little bit. But yeah, you'll see.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Watch listen.
Speaker 13 (27:58):
I'm gonna go even say and taking a step further,
even some of you have ungodly connections with us, with
us right here, us four US, three guys on the screen,
I totally get it. You watch our stuff, you feel connected.
But if you I gotta be careful. I'm treading lightly here,
as you guys can tell. If you find yourself obsessing
over us, obsessing over our context, thinking about us at night,
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thinking about us, if you're thinking about us more than
your own husband or the own person you're with, there
could be some ungodly soul tie there, even with us.
Maybe we of course we've never met many of you,
but even just through the internet, there's a type of
soul tie. So we don't want that. We don't want
you obsessing over us. We don't want you idolizing us.
We don't want you creating unhealthy soul ties with our
ministries and with us. And so all these things are
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stuff that are not talked about often.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Okay, So something very very serious here, folks. Do not
do not obsess over Vlad, Mike and Isaiah at night,
because Carrian, that's an unhealthy soul tie.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Speaking of which, if it is a Sunday afternoon and
you're obsessing over Danny and Robin Long and where their
video is, you're saying, I need that Long for truth
the video to come out. You may have I'm on healthy,
Come on, you may have an unhealthy soul tie. You
need to back up, maybe do a little bit of this.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Oh my goodness, did you did so?
Speaker 12 (29:26):
So?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
You if you didn't catch Vlad's face palm there when
Isaiah said, you know, we don't want you thinking about
us at night, go back and watch it. It's worth
a watch.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
He couldn't even look in the camera after that. So
enough about all these soul ties. How are we going
to get rid of them? That is the question. How
do you take care of demonic sul ties. Now, if
you read Frank Hammond's book or you watch the videos
a lot, they have a step by step process of
forgiving the other, forgiving yourself, asking God for forgiveness, setting
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up a decree and declaring yourself separated. This kind of thing.
But let's look at this clip about doing a clean sweep.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
Yeah, so we go back to Ken and Tabitha Claytor.
Speaker 14 (30:12):
Here, So you got to do a clean sweet Yeah,
maybe talk about the demonic a little bit, because there
are certain things that we have in our homes that
represent all kinds of ungodliness. For me, this is a
thing when it comes to even you say that you're
just checking on them, but you're really stalking their social media.
Sometimes you have to disconnect yourself, like, let them live
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their life.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
That's done.
Speaker 14 (30:36):
It was ungodly, it was wrong, y'all not together. God
wants to move you on. Just go ahead, and it's
okay to move on.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
Absolutely all of those things.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
Old jewelry, if someone gave you a ring, you need
to get rid of that ring, the necklace, the earrings,
the dress, the shoes some of us have, you know,
maybe we've been divorced now and we're having a hard
time getting over that divorce, but you still have the
wedding dress that you're holding on to.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
You might want to let that go.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
I'm not saying that that's God for you, but examine
these situations.
Speaker 9 (31:08):
If you cannot get over it, break off. I don't play.
I have thrown away things.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
That have been valued to valuable to me just because
I just don't want ties to it, vowels that I've made,
not this isn't sexual, but vowels that I made to
sororities like Okay, no, I break that because that's ungodly,
that doesn't have anything to do with God. And I
don't know if it's for me or for you know,
if it's just for me, But I break that tie
in the name of Jesus. I'm thrown away this jewelry.
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I'm thrown away these momentos. I don't want ungodly influence
in my life appreciation. So open the door for Jesus
to come in and show you. It might be a
picture that you need to throw away. It could be
godly things like a picture of Jesus. It could be
a picture, you know, praying hand, something that's tying you
to a certain person let it go.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Interesting, So if you have a picture of Jesus hands
or a picture of Jesus that has tied you to
an unhealthy relationship, you got to let go of it.
And so I guess they're talking about doing a clean
sweep here, going across you'r a whole. I don't know
if all of your belongings and tossing them, getting rid
of them.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
And I think a lot of that is just common sense.
If you have old relationships or tithes that you want
to remove things that bring up any kind of memory
of that that that is not godly, you would.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Just do that.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I don't see how that has anything to do with
breaking a soul tie.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Perhaps well, some of them will teach that if there
could be a demonic presence connected to or attached to
this item, yep, that means so you need to get
rid of that, you need to burn that, or whatever
you need to do. And I think they would they
would go to the story and acts where the people
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came and they burned all of their their you know, paraphernalia,
they're uh in the fire and and I can't remember
the exact the exact place, and acts, but where they came,
and they threw all of their magic arts and books
and things like that into the fire when they became,
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when they were converted to Christ, you know. But breaking
the Sultan again, it's all about, you know, it's all
about some something that you have to do ritualistically so
that you can detach yourself from that person or thing
or the demonic.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Right, Katie and Joan are going to walk us through
some of our declarations to renounce the sul ties.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Okay, so let's just do that together. Just say Lord,
and right now, right now, send back.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I send back the pieces of that person's.
Speaker 12 (33:52):
Soul, pieces of that person's soul.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
That still are intertwined in my heart, still intertwined in
my heart. I send them back to them, Send it
back to them, and I command, I command every piece,
every piece of my broken heart, my broken heart, to
come back to me, to come back to me.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So my heart can be whole and healthy.
Speaker 12 (34:16):
So my heart could be whole and healthy.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Say I decree it now in Jesus name.
Speaker 12 (34:21):
I decreate now in Jesus's name, Hellelujah.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Okay, and you can even do that prayer again, guys,
and say, each person by name, because it's true they're
holding on.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
You heard the stories that Joan talked about.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Even that woman with her husband was in the grave
and the pieces of her heart are with him in
the grave.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
She couldn't even say his name.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
She finally was able to bring it back, to call
her pieces of her heart back to herself. And when
she walked to her house and her husband opens the door,
he sees her.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
He knows something's happening. He said, what happened? You look
totally different, And now her heart was whold and she
could totally give it to her covenant husband at that time.
So this is very important.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
In fact, let's just say it again, just say I
send the pieces of their.
Speaker 12 (35:08):
Soul, send the pieces of my soul.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
The pieces of their soul back to them, back to them,
and I call the pieces of my heart back to me.
Speaker 12 (35:20):
I call the pieces of my heart back to me.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
OK.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
That is soul ties two point oher off the charts.
Different kind of soul ties that you have to go
to your deceased loved one's grave to pick up pieces
of your heart.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
It's it's really it's it's really disgusting, and it sounds
like incantations to me like these these declarations are nothing
more to me than than ipantations.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
And I have been humming Tony Braxton's Unbreak My Heart
since I watched that clip, so like all week long,
it's been Unbreak my Heart. So Frank Hammond also has
a free for you to read in case you are
suffering from soul ties. He states, we should say, I
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your name, command the thief, the liar, the murderer to
flee before the presence of the Lord and before Heaven's
army supporting me. Right now, I ask you Lord to
flood this room with the sweet aroma of Jesus through
the Holy Spirit, and I serve notice that no other
spirit is allowed to dwell in the presence of the
most high enemy. I drive you relentlessly away from my soul,
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and the army of Heaven now pursues you to your destruction.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Okay, so there's your incantation for you if you want
to be free from soul ties, well, at least that's
one incantation, or you could use the Katie Susa incantation.
It's up to you. But incantations to deliver yourself from
these harmful soul ties.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Your daily decrees. Yeah, Frank Hammond, So let's talk about
our souls, Danny. I know you found a really good definition.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Yeah. So Logos Bible Software has this search engine and
really it's got a One of the engines is smart Search,
and so I just went on smart Search and you
just typed in a basic question what is a soul?
And it pulls from all of your books that you
have in Logos and gives you a really good explanation.
(37:23):
And I thought this was very well, a really good explanation.
So we'll read that.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Okay, So what is a soul? Humans are composed of
body and soul, as illustrated by the biblical account of
God forming man from dust and breathing life into him.
The soul serves multiple critical functions. It gives life to
the body, is immortal, provides rational ability, enables emotional experience,
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shapes personality, and allows spiritual communion with God. While some
have attempted to distinguish between soul and spirit, these terms
are generally used interchangeably to ref to the same entity. Importantly,
the soul is immortal and continues to exist after the
body dies, with death being defined as the moment when
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the soul separates from the body after death, the soul
survives independently, retaining intellectual and volitional capabilities, and awaits the
eventual resurrection and divine judgment.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
So I think that was a that's a really good
definition of the soul. And one of the things that
was mentioned in that definition was that soul and spirit
are used interchangeably, and that is how the Scripture uses
spirit and soul. That is the dichotomist view, a dichotomy.
A dichotomist view would be that we are we have
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a body and a soul, okay, And when the Bible
uses the word spirit and soul, it uses them interchangeably.
But the soul and the body are so connected that
that is why death is so unnatural, because it is
literally the ripping away, the ripping apart the soul from
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the body. And as the soul is going to be
living forever, eventually God is going to Christ is going
to come and create the new heavens and the new Earth.
We're going to get resurrected bodies and we will be
united with our new bodies forever. That is how important
the body is and the soul together. And so the
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trichotomist view, which it would be. What most of these
guys that believe in soul ties are is the teaching
that we have a body, a soul, and a spirit,
and that's important to them. Now, while not everybody who
holds to the trichotomy view would hold to the teaching
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that these guys do on soul ties, it is it
is really important because in their view, Christ comes when
you're a Christian and he comes to live in the spirit,
in your spirit, but your soul can have demons. Your
body and your soul can have demons. So that's why
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it's so important to them, because they would say, well,
the demons can't come and live in your spirit, they
can come and live in your soul.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
And that's why Christians can be possessed.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Yes, and so anyway, and they wouldn't need They would say, well,
we don't use possession. We don't believe that Christian can
be possessed. We just believe that they Christians can have demons.
They don't like to use that. It's it's a semantics issue.
It is what it is. But that's why to them,
the whole trichotomous view is so important because through using
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that view, they can say that Christians can have a demon.
Speaker 14 (40:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You have another good quote in here, Danny from Stephen
Mueller from the book called To Believe, Teach and Confess,
an introduction to doctrinal theology, and it states, also retained
according to scripture, is our personal existence as a unity
of body and soul together as a brief working definition,
then we may describe a human being as an intelligent
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and moral being consisting of a body and soul which
are united in one complete person. And I think that
goes right along with what you have just already talked about,
right yep.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
And then we have Wayne Grudem who is a charismatic himself,
and yet he doesn't hold to the trichotomist view. He
seems to be a dichotomis. This comes from his systematic theology.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
He states, what person knows a man's thoughts except the
spirit of the man, which is in him on Corinthians
two eleven. The point of these verses is not to
say that it is the spirit rather than the soul
that feels and thinks things, but rather that soul in
spirit are both terms used of the immaterial side of
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people generally, and it is difficult to see any real
distinction between the use of the terms. In fact, we
should not slip into the mistake of thinking that certain
activities such as thinking, feeling, or deciding things are done
by only one part of us. Rather, these activities are
done by the whole person.
Speaker 6 (42:23):
So that would debunk the idea that a demon can
come and live in your soul rather than your spirit.
How they would say, Christ lives in the spirit, so
there can't come in, but the demon can come into
the body and live, you know, and you know, affect
all kinds of your soul in all kinds of bad ways.
So Grudham himself, who is a charismatic, would disagree at
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least in that according to that statement, with what these
guys teach about soul ties.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Right, so, now you know, and we know, the Bible
never mentions or teaches a doctrine of soul ties and
the deliverance. Guys will say, yes, the Bible never mentioned
soultis and it never mentions trinity and things like that,
But they use their verses that we've already spoken about.
(43:13):
The problem with soultiz is it really does not.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
There's no teaching about it in scripture at all. There
is teaching about the trinity. You can you can go
through scripture and you can see that the trinity is
taught in the scripture, the incarnation of Christ is taught.
There are things words that aren't mentioned, like trinity, incarnation,
but the doctrine is taught. The doctrine of soul ties
(43:37):
is not taught in scripture. It's not a doctrine taught.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
In script And you can glue together twenty or thirty
verses that talk about an emotional bond between people and
it does not create the doctrine of soul ties.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
We are not to go beyond what the scripture says.
We are not to go beyond what is written.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
No, First Corinthians four six says, I've applied all these
things to myself for your benefit, brothers, that you may
learn by us not to go beyond what is written,
that none of you may be puffed up in favor
of one against another.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
So that's very clear. We are not to create our
own doctrine just because we feel not to go beyond
what the scripture says. We are to exactly not to
go beyond what is written.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, we see that a lot. So briefly we have
mentioned a couple of the dangers of this teaching, and
let's just look at those again. The first one would
be blame shifting.
Speaker 12 (44:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
One danger is that it can externalize blame. I don't
need to exercise self discipline. I need to get rid
of those demons. Yes, I do need to forgive, I
need to do this and that. But it's honestly, it's
all these demons working in me and around me that
keep making me sin.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
Yeah. Yeah. The responsibility, you know, and I've I've watched
enough of the videos from you know, deliverance, deliverance ministers
and others. They would they would say, you do need
to take responsibility. But then on the other side of
their mouth they would say that you know that you
need to get deliverance all you know, if just you know,
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the demons can come back, and so you need to
be really careful. And so they give you all these
methods and how to keep demons from coming back. So
it's they kind of talk out of both sides of
their mouths.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
It's actually more work, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
It really is work, then absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah. Another danger is this whole ritualistic mentality, like you mentioned, Danny,
they have to continually go to deliverance sessions, don't they.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
I just feel like that is there. That's how they
keep people in their movement, keep people trapped, is by
teaching that you have to constantly be delivered. And when
they teach things like demons coming back, what does that do?
That just makes the person say, Okay, I got to
(46:06):
get delivered again, or I let my guard down and
I did something I shouldn't have done, and now I've
opened a door to a demon. Now I've got to
go back and get deliverance.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Again, removing the power of the gospel and placing it
in the power of this deliverance minister.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
Yeah, right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
And also, like you mentioned earlier, Danny, there's the fear
elements that's a problem these people. I would go around
constantly afraid that there were demons everywhere, and I was
on the attack.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Yeah, yep, and that these are the dangerous folks. And
the scripture makes it clear there is the the what
are we to do? How are we to live? Is
there some kind of a mystical kind of incantation that
we have to do or something we have to you know,
renounce or or whatever to break these demonic soul ties?
(47:02):
But I don't think that's the case. I believe Scripture
just gives us such a clear way of living a
godly and holy life. It doesn't give you some kind
of mystical formula so that you can You know that
you have to do to break a soul tie.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, Ephesians four twenty two through thirty two. To put
off your old self, which belongs to your former manner
of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to
be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to
put on the new self, created after the likeness of God,
in true righteousness and holiness. Therefore, having put away falsehood,
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let each of you speak the truth with his neighbor,
for we are members one of another. Be angry and
do not sin. Do not let the sun go down
on your anger, and give no opportunity to the devil.
Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him
labor doing honest work with his own hands, so that
he may have something to share with anyone in need.
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Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but
only such as a good for building up as fits
the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear,
and do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God by
whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let
all bitterness and wrath, and anger, and clamor and slander
be put away from you, along with all malice. Be
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kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God
in Christ forgave you.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
When you go through the epistles, especially the Epistles of
Paul and he gives instruction on how to live the
Christian life. He just tells you what you need to do.
There's nothing mystical. He just says you are a new
creation in Christ. Now this is how you're to live.
Do this, do this, do this, put off this, put
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off that. There's no formula, mystical formula to or incantation
that you have to or declaration that you have to
do in order to be free from a soul tire
or live a godly life. It is just look, you
have the Holy Spirit. He is in dwelling within you.
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He gives you the power to live that godly life.
Now this is what you need to do. Do it.
Nothing magical, nothing mystical. Folks, soul tithes are unbiblical. The
doctrine of soul ties not taught in scripture. The Bible
itself gives us instructions on how to live a godly
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and holy life. Folks, I hope this video was helpful
to you. If it was, and you think it'll be
helpful to others, please pass it along, and Lord Willing,
we'll see you next week.
Speaker 12 (50:03):
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